Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #128: Dark Winter with Abby and Robbie Martin

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

Welcome to another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. First off, Sam introduces everyone to Tin Foil Hat's new tech guy to the show who runs the board and helps with the visuals, Xajavier G! Then he welcomes from the Empire Files, Abby Martin and her brother from Very Heavy Agenda, Robbie Martin for their first podcast together. On this episode we discuss the 2001 Anthrax scare and the Dark Winter simulation drill. This episode is insane! Thank you so much for all of your support.

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tocom. And then the Patreon is rocking. You guys support the show. It's a great way to support the show we're doing great joining me again or for the first time here he is joining me Xavier G everybody bam I'm here to find out the truth the truth that's right look at we're getting ethnic on the show huh an Armenian and a Mexican just out there hunt for the truth and that is the business real quick I am super excited to have the brother and sister on of the the tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr the tr. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm tr. I'm the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. th. I is th. th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I is th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the is the is the uth and that is the business real quick. I am super excited to have the brother and sister on of truth. I'm so excited have you two on. Joining me from the podcast media roots radio, the one and only Robbie Martin and Abby Martin.

How are you guys? Fucking great man. We got such great shit going on. Robbie, you have a very heavy agenda. Can you tell us a little bit about that? tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr truth truth truth truth truth truth truth truth truth truth truth. th. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. I truth. I truth. I'm th. I'm the th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr. tr. tr. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. the. true. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. thanks for having us on. You got such great shit going on, Robbie, you have a very heavy agenda. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Oh, thanks for having us on, Sam. Yeah, it's a documentary film series about, essentially about the neo-conservatives who took us to war during the Bush administration and how they have the same neo-conservatives back then are the same people

responsible for bringing us into this new Cold War 2.0 scenario that we're in today. It is nuts and of course everybody knows our returning champion. Abby Marne, she did the show before and we loved it and the people loved it so we had to have her back. How are you? I'm great. Thanks so much for having me by The places you've gone and the people you see, you were always in it, mucking it up. Just trying to get that truth out there. Trying to get the truth, man. So you have a lot of stuff going on. What's going on with Empire Filesia. have ramped up the hostilities, the aggression on that country. Of course, Nikki Haley wants to be out there in the protests with the Venezuelan opposition

saying that they respect country's sovereignty, yet they are literally destroying and debilitating the economy there, making it harder for poor people to get food medicine, normal sanctions, the effects of sanctions on these countries. Actually, the worst sanctions on any country in that region since Nicaragua in the 1980s when we were waging a full-blown bloody war against the Sananistas there. So that's what's happening. A happy happenstance of the sanctions has been a constriction on Telasur's ability to fund independent contractors and journalists who are doing productions for them. So I was one of the unfortunate casualties of the sanctions as well as Tariq Ali.

So we had to sever ties with Tel Assor and we had to go independent. And it just is really a sad state of affairs that in this country we have to just fund the journalists that we want to see because we're living in a corporate tyranny. For sure. You know, it's all interesting is when, you know are the leaders of our government. They put their sites on a country, and they don't play games, whether they're communists or socialists, and you could have your opinions of these. We always hear about how these business models always fail.

They're not all, they're failing. But what they don't realize is that the entire global economy is built on whether the United States buys all anything from that. So when they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they their whether the United States buys anything from that. So when they cut that off, of course it's going to fail. It's purposely done. It's not allowed to function in its natural state. It is being suffocated and choked out by not allowing US acts, our population access to their goods. So now it's crashing and burden. So I saw you put out that tweet about how during these hearings, you know, Trump just tr-up... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, of thi, of thi, of thi, of thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the global, thi, their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, thi. their, their, their goods. So now it's crashing and burden. So I saw you put out that tweet about how during these hearings, you know, Trump just gave like

this giant tax break of the billions of the course someone asked a tweet, well what are you talking about? You're supported by this guy starving his own his own population. And it's such a ridiculous statement being said because it's being done on purpose. They are not playing ball with the international bankers. They're not just giving over their oil, their resources. And so what's going on is they're cutting them off. And that's why the system, in my opinion, isn't working. No, thank you for saying that because a lot of people will say, oh, it's an obvious

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empire, Sam. Yeah, they can to this that are not socialist or even into socialism and some things I'm libertarian on and some things I'm socialist on but you can't tell me a system doesn't work when it's fucking they're making it fail it's not happening its natural thing and that's it's an amazing how all these dark dark forces at work and this is this topic we want to talk about you know Robbie you know Robbie you'd hit the the the th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm tho. I'm thin. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. I'm tho. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's the. It's just just just just just just just just just theeeeeeeeeeeeeeea. It's just just just just just just just the. It'stopic we want to talk about, you know, Robbie, you'd hit me up before and I was like, oh man, I'd love to get you on and we were kind like, hey, what do you want to talk about? And you brought up basically the anthrax scare of 2001. And I was like, okay, if the Martin kids want to talk about, I'll talk about it. You know, like anything they're into they're into they're into they're into they're into they're into. they're into. they're into. they're into. they're into. they're into. they're into. their. they're into. they're into. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their. their. their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I. I today. I th. I researching this and it just blew my mind how important this story is because it's so relevant to what's going on right now. And in particular

as we go through this, I want you to know how similar not only the game plan is, but almost the players are to Russian Gate right now. It is so similar. It is mind-blowing to me and you know when I tell people I'm like hey take a look at Bill Clinton's Kansas, his administration and Trump's administration. I go look how similar they are and they're like and then you start realizing they just keep running the same playbook and because we're goldfish the most people are goldfish and the only thing that really matters is what is in front you at th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the th the th the th th the th the th. the th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the the the the thi. the the thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. te. te. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. ty. t most people are goldfish and the only thing that really matters is what is in front of you at this moment is the only truth that's important. And it's like, you don't remember what's behind you.

And this is a great example. It's the same game plan. How did you get into this, Robbie? How did you really start studying all the stuff? You put out like a kind of like a 35 minute movie on it, right? A little doc on it. Yeah. What was the name of that doc again? It's called American Anthrax.

Yeah, okay, that's, I should have known that. It's America and it's Anthrax. I should have gotten that. Uh, what made you decide to do that? Um, if I remember back correctly, I think it was when I first read Glenn Greenwald's series in Salon. Before Glenn Greenwald got involved in the Snowden documents and his beat became NSA surveillance and the way before the intercept, Greenwald wrote a series for Salon, I think it was around 2008 that basically went back into the anthrax attacks and

really jogged my own memory of those events. I, you know, I sort of vaguely remembered them happening, but I didn't know how the investigation resolved. I didn't really know much about it. But in Greenwald's series, he made a really strong case for essentially that the Bush administration used the anthrax attacks as one of their primary planks for pushing the American public into the Iraq war and his argument was that things like aluminum tubes, you know the idea that Iraq had sarin gas, those were just things that the Bush administration merely tacked on to that narrative post-911 to sort of spike the idea, you know, to really

entice the public into wanting to go to war with Iraq. But what it really was, was the core of the propaganda model was a real attack that was happening in the United States one month after 9-11 that involved weaponized anthrax being sent through the US mail system. And in his series, he traced back, you know, mainstream media reports like from ABC News as Brian Ross, who put out disinformation saying that the anthrax found in these letters that were being sent around had fingerprints that came from Saddam Hussein. And there were other insinuations made by George W. Bush himself about, you know, that this

was a second wave of terror, insinuating that this was essentially the second stage of the 9-11 attacks. They didn't directly say that it was an attack by Al-Qaeda, but they alluded to it multiple times. But it was left to mainly the mainstream media in D.C. to sort of fill in the holes and to, you know, put out the allegations that maybe Saddam Hussein or Al-Qaeda are behind this attack. And, you know, also what the articles serve to do, this series that Greenwall wrote is

sort of jog my memory of how hysterical the anthrax attacks made the American public. Because if you think about it, 9-11 was kind of an isolated event, you know, as horrific as it was, it took place over the course of one day, it involved, you know, Pennsylvania, Virginia, where the Pentagon is, and Manhattan. But what the anthrax attacks did is they made the American public feel as if terrorism would be an ongoing, continuous thing, and that 9-11 was not an isolated incident, because multiple letters actually got sent out through the mail and five people, five Americans ended up dying from weaponized anthrax infection.

So I mean that article series really got me started, you know, going down my own rabbit hole and doing my own research and I think it just kind of eventually, you know, influence me to make a documentary on it. And that documentary that I made is sort of kind of eventually, you know, influence me to make a documentary on it. And that documentary that I made is sort of primarily based off of Greenwall's original series. How great is Greenwall? I mean like, and it's some weird thing where he still gets on mainstream media to be able to tell his point, which is amazing, but he really is the voice of reason a lot of time with what's going on out there. When I watch these videos that, you know, about this subject,

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And then you go back and you look at the blatant lie. And even this push that right now kind of by people like, man, he wasn't smart enough to know what's going on. Man, he was, you know, it was Dick Cheney. And I even started to fall for that for little bit. And then you watch these speeches. And you know, he's just straight up in it as well. Just the manipulation that is going, like with the manipulation going on with the left right now with Russiagate. And how they're just sore losers.

And but that like the manipulation of like we got attacked. And like how they just make make the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their the manipulation. the manipulation. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It is just just just just just just, th. th. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I's, thi. thi. thi. thi. I's, thi. thi. I's, thi. I's just just, thi. I's just, thi's just, thi's just just, thi's just, thi's just just just just, thi's just just just just just how they just use that to just make not only make money just take away rights and freedoms of like privacy and how this was like a doubling down where like if we didn't get you in Oklahoma City boom we got you with this and even if there's a couple of you left bam here's a another one on top of that well 9-11 just I feel like the reason that we we have Trump today is because 9-11 broke everyone's brains. It's like people deeply think that something was wrong about what we've been told.

I mean, over 50% of Americans think that we were lied to, right? New Yorkers tried to reinitiate an investigation. It was thwarted by Giuliani and then Bloomberg. So here we are with this really theeeeakeakeaked thiiiiiii, thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, with thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that day, we watched 3,000 people perish in front of our eyes over and over and over again. I mean what kind of psychological torture is that? 24-7, it was the first time that we saw a 24-hour news cycle. Yeah. The next time we saw that was with Anna Nicole Smith's death, oddly enough. So that just kind of shows you the spectrum here. But right after that, as we're watching 3,000 people either, you know, pulverize into powder or jump to their deaths,

then the anthrax letters come out. And it was almost like a parody of a terrorist. Death to Israel, Allah is great. Very strange, right? And it wasn't until a year later that actually a perpetrator was even floated around. And like Robbie was saying, the press was selected for this. They were the instruments to put out this propaganda in a very selective way from these anonymous government officials, right?

That's what you see with all this shit. Russia gate, the Iraq war, chemical weapons propaganda. It's always anonymous government officials pushing this narrative out to these willing and acquiescent beltway reporters that set the tone for the Washington consensus and and with this attack it was no different. They were saying there was bentonite in the anthrax tying it to Saddam's weapon facilities. Bush never said that the reporters said that that. And then it was floated around thatthen it was Stephen Hatfield, this guy, just this guy who worked within Fort Dietrich. So all of a sudden it comes out that, oh, wait a minute, this wasn't an actual al-Qaeda

terrorist, this was someone from the inside, right, a year after. And that, now, that story falls, now the Iraq falls flat after a year? Is that how it goes? So you said that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the attack that that the attack that the attack that that's that's that's the attack, that's that how it goes so so you said that the attacks happened Robbie you say it happened after a month later But wasn't it eight days later? I thought it was September 18th The or seven days later that that this is the the ant the first anthrax scare actually happened is that is that correct or was it a month with the? Well the September 8 no you got the date right but the date is when the letters were actually postmark and sent to the mail the mail the mail the mail the mail the mail oh the mail oh the mail oh the mail oh the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta tea ta tea te t letters were actually postmark and sent to the mail. Oh, okay. And just to clarify, this is one of the things that I found in my research, is that the anthrax letters themselves, a lot of, you know, for example, taking the five victims

who died from the anthrax, we don't know actually how most of those victims died from anthrax. So the first anthrax victim victim victim victim thaxaxax victim victim victim victim victim thax victim thax victim victim victim thax victim thax victim th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, thrax, thrax, thrax, we don't know actually how most of those victims died from anthrax. So the first anthrax victim, Robert Stevens, a photojournalist for the son, no letter was ever found. No letter was ever found for the 94-year-old lady in Connecticut who died. So this anthrax, yeah, the FBI now says that the anthrax attack started on the 18th because that's when the letters were sent out. But what they omit from that is they don't know for sure how some of these people actually died from anthrax. Their sort of narrative is that they must have all died from these letters. But that is something that we simply actually don't know for sure.

And that's a very interesting statement because you see this, you know, and this is a conspiracy show and I speak for myself here, but when you, let's go into the Vegas shooting, right? The narrative is set by the people you think might be actually behind some stuff. Now, I don't know I get into the, I think there was Dark Hearts within the Vegas shooting, but we are, we work off the people who we believe are behind it, set the stage through the media. They tell us this isn't happening and it takes truth people like ourselves to have to work off that.

And we are literally working off the people who might have caused it, setting the stage for it. So what we're working on is here, these nine people died. Do we even know they died from that? Five people, yeah. But five people? Right? Do we even know that they die from that?

That's just the narrative that's putictions in their own narrative, but I think that it is confirmed that those five people did die from weaponized anthrax, which is so perplexing because a lot of them, well, two of them, namely, weren't near any sort of male facility. It really is not traced back. Especially this older woman in Connecticut. I mean, she was just a, you know, 90-year-old-old lady who just lived in the suburb. I'm, th. I, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th-n-n-n-o, thr-o, thr-a, thrash, thrace. thrace. Well, thrace, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, thrace, thrac. Well, th. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. th. th contract anthrax? It's insane. Is there any theories? Like, well, I mean only the FBI has again, you know, their catch-all theory for all of the deaths is essentially, oh, male sorters in these different postal facilities around the country tested positive for anthrax, therefore this is how these people must have gotten it, but that's the best theory they've come up with. But it didn't have to be letters because there were 17 non-fatal injuries. So I'm guessing there wasn't what would it be 22 letters sent out? Yeah, that's a great point. It must have been 22 letters because 22 people got hurt in general. Yeah, it got sick from it.

That's interesting. So, so the big ones are obviously the politicians and what later we find out is that these are the guys who rightfully had a problem with the Patriot Act. Yeah. And they were basically, go on Robbie, sorry. Yeah, let's talk about. No, I was gonna say, Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy is who you're referring to. They were, they wouldn't, you wouldn't even consider them civil libertarians.

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and came about two weeks later. Poor you PS they can't even get that right. How bizarre is it that it was unfurled, the Patriot Act was just unfurled so quickly too. It is so weird, like this just happened, by the way, this giant bill's ready to go. We wrote this in like, we wrote this a billion-page bill in a couple hours, it just happens to be ready after this giant fucking event. Right. And nobody questions that.

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Clinton that they attacked this building and there's interesting stuff about that. In particular, like, who was security of the OKC building happened just also be security of the World Trade Center? They were both in this one company just happened to be ran by George Bush's cousin I believe, which is Michael Bush or his brother, Michael Bush was the one company just happened to be ran by George Bush's cousin I believe which is Michael Bush or his brother Michael Bush was the security company in charge of both of those buildings and so that was the beginning of the erosion of the the civil rights and then what they couldn't get with that supposedly the next they got with with 9-11 which was you know the NSA and all that stuff and that that was a big thing there and then what they couldn't couldn't couldn't they couldn't they could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could could they could they could they could they could the they could they could the they could the the the they could the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they th. thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th all that stuff, and that was a big thing there. And then what they couldn't get with that, I feel like, you know, anthrax was, okay, it's still coming.

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later died remembers seeing someone open up a letter with powder in it in the post office and then the manager comes over and takes it away and the letter's never seen again. So it's quite sad and disturbing that two postal workers ended up dying. These are federal employees who were never given any such warning. And they died somewhere around two months after the Bush administration was allegedly already taking Cipro. What's even more disturbing is that during the speech that Bush gives when he signs the

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Pearl was the guy who said that, that the next attack might be chemical or biological. And, you know, I mean, if I were to speculate, I would say yes, he is, but, you know, he's such a bizarre, evil character for so many other reasons that I could go, I could go for hours just about him. But yeah, I mean, I think, I think that that, I think, yeah, a simple short answer, yes. And like, do these people, like, we'll get into some of the reporters that were involved in this. Do you think, as a reporter yourself yourself Is there a moment where you remember where you realized?

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You know, it's like, I'm, this may this may this may this may this may this may like, this may not happen in my time, but we're going to march forward to we get to this certain kind of new world order or whatever you want to call it, you know? But my question is like, like these, these, these report, oh what's his name? The reporter basically pushed the whole thing. Oh, right, yeah. What's his name? Who was it, Robby? Yeah. Now, is is is th, is th, is, is, is, is, th, th, is, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thi. It's, to. It's, to. It's, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. this knowing he's lying or is he in this position they're like, oh,

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I don't self-censor, and he actually doesn't. And it's like what Chomsky talks about, I mean, these people are in the end of the day. It really, really is about access. Do you think Rachel Maddole really believes in Russian collusion? I think that she's convinced herself of it and that she's bankrolled her entire career at this point on it. And so you have to convince yourself that it's true at that point, and they really, really do believe in American exceptionalism. They really do believe that America is morally superior and that justifies our atrocities around the world. It's really sad, but it's true. And as someone who lived in D.C., I can testify to that firsthand. And speaking of these criminals who have been just skating through administrations,

these deep state insiders, Robbie, let's talk about Giuliani who's Trump's personal lawyer he was the 9-11 criminal and he had ties to the anthrax attacks too I mean this people don't realize that Robbie talk about Giuliani I mean like everybody's acting like this dude is some white night man right like oh man he's gonna go after these these like these these deep state people you like man he he oh yeah where was he a 9-11 I mean it's crazy oh sure so so Giuliani I mean Julianne's connection to just the deep-state apparatus as we classically know it goes back to the 1980s he worked in the Reagan administration and was involved in helping defend people

who are involved in the BCCI bank, which is largely known now as sort of a conduit for funding like CIA black ops operations. He also, his law firm also represented Manuel Noriega when he was a CIA asset in the late 80s. Oh my God. Giuliani then went into the anthrax cleanup business after the anthrax attacks and actually was in charge of a project in 2004 to clean up the site of the first anthrax death.

Robert Stevens. Now it's strange about that, and I was just actually talking to Abby about this. It's just a strange coincidence perhaps. But Rudy Giuliani and Trump have been very good friends, you know, ever since before 9-11, you know, all throughout the 90s. American Media Inc., the building where Robert Stevens worked, is actually owned by Robert Fisk, who's a good friend of Trump's as well. And it is just a strange coincidence that Rudy Giuliani goes and cleans up this building in 2004 that apparently has in it a safe that Robert Fisk, Trump's friend, put in it, holding securely documents that are apparently incriminating to Trump that the National Inquirer bought

and hid in a safe that only Robert Fisk had the combination to. That's just a strange, you know, I don't hope you didn't do that. Is this recent? No, I mean, this is not recent. This has been known about Robert Fisk on Trump for a long time, is that the National Inquirer was, had a very close relationship with Trump, going back to the 80s. But Giuliani, I mean, Giuliani is involvementiiiiiiiiii is involvementi is involvementi is involvementi is involvementi is in in in in in in in in in in in in in in the involvementi is in the 80s, but Julianne is involvement with just bioterrorism and And hyping up anthrax fears is

I don't know if there's any single character in this whole story who has as many bizarre connections to Anthrax as Julianne does and additionally his colleague that he hired while working as mayor for New York City for the New York City Emergency Office of Emergency Management Jerome Howard is someone who is also bizarrely linked to not just the anthrax attacks but also 9-11 itself. So here you have two men, you know Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Howard who have, who are loaded up with strange connections through both attacks, 9-11 and anthrax.

And it's something that I think, you know, a lot of sort of truthers have looked into Julianne and Howard's roles, potential roles in 9-11, but not very many people have looked into their roles in anthrax and sort of, you know, combine them together and try to make a case about their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tha, thal, thal, thu. And, tha, tha, thag. And, thagu. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th... And, th.. And, th.. And, th.... And, th.. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, thin. And, thin. And, te, toe, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, know, combine them together and try to make a case about that. But I think it's worth, you know, looking into because it's very, very strange. And Giuliani was doing these walking press tours the morning of 9-11 instead of actually trying to help the firefighters. And somehow he knew that the buildings would collapse before anyone else did, and he didn't warn them and he also didn't supply them the emergency management systems to try to talk to each other on the radios. I mean he is a criminal and it's disgusting that he's like Trump's personal lawyer and he's just all over TV. These people just don't go away. They're always there. It's so deep man. The corruption is so deep at every level. I mean like we've talked about us before on the show. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. It's, to. I, to. to. to. to. to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. I, to. It, to. It, to. It, to. It, to. It, to. It, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. It we've talked about us before on the show just this Awan brother scandal that went on and how like it involved Wasserman

Schultz and who was like funding these Awan brothers and they were just giving data away to all these quote-unquote enemy states and then the prosecutor of the case is Debbie Wasserman Schultz brother. Brother and they never every article that comes out never once told you who the case is Debbie Wasserman Schult's brother. Brother! And they never, every article that comes out never once told you who the prosecutor was. It's just like Betsy DeVos's brother is Eric Prince and Blackwater. You're like, how come no one talks about the fact that your brother is leading a mercenary cult? That's unbelievable. It's at every level. It is at every level. I want like a big cloud chart of all the people like the, you know, the actual one, not the actual Putin thing that people make fun of always sunny, but an actual one of these deep

state people. Because it would be very interesting to see who they're all tied to. So, so this, the Bush administration starts pushing it towards al-Qaeda, pushing it towards Saddam Hussein, which is hilarious because they were both on the US payroll at some point. Way back in the day, there's very famous pictures of George Bush Sr. shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. Obviously, Hillary Clinton even says that we basically funded and created al-Qaeda, then to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, basically to bring them in to the to try to weaken the US US the US US the US US US US the USal their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to toQaeda then to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, basically to bring them in to try to weaken their empire. And now obviously ISIS and we've heard all that with Benghazi.

With like Benghazis, is it really about emails? It is, but it's really more about how much did they know about that attack and did they let that attack happen Because that guy knew a lot more stuff than anybody really wanted to know and that is a big part of the Benghazi They're very good at how they frames Events and cases they frame it so you're like oh, this is what we're really upset about even if you look at this Kevin all a thing? Kavanaugh, Kavanaugh is a piece shit, okay, he's a piece shit, but what they don't tell you is that, oh yeah we're mad at this sexual assault thing, which is bad, okay, but they also don't tell you that he's very

much into the military police state. Yep, pro torture. Doesn't think the president has to answer to anybody can do whatever the fuck he wants. It is for wiretapping everybody. But they'll never tell you that because the people interviewing him about whether he should be a judge or not are cool with that shit too. Right, exactly. That's not an issue. He was a Bush administration official. It's for the same reason the media doesn't, you know, ever go after Trump for trying to start a war with Iran.

I mean, those are the things that the media essentially wants and will help. If Trump does that, they'll be there behind him, egging him on. I mean, that's how fucked up this is. One more quick thing about Juliannejjjjjj – – M.E.K. the Mujahedin al-Kalk is like a cult that Fomen's regime change. They've assassinated nuclear scientists in Iran. They work with the Masad. They work with the CIA. And they really are very small, but they have enormous funding.

They also fund politicians and sponsor them. this big Iran uprising conference in New York and Giuliani spoke at it because he's just a fucking shill for this cult. And on the day of this terrorist attack in Iran, the media shamed Iran. They're like how humiliating that you guys got shot up in a military parade and kids were killed you fucking pathetic losers for letting yourself get attacked by terrorism. So Giuliani on the day that this happens, he's like, he's speaking at this M.E.K.K.K.K.K.K. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. A......................................................................................................................... happens, he's like, he's speaking at this M.E.K. thing, and he's like, we will overthrow Iran. He's like, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. He's like, but it will happen.

It's like, I mean, the arrogance can we fight at one fucking time man? Yeah and Iran and unlike Iraq it will be a very tough battle like it's not going to go down without a fight because they've learned since you know the overthrow of Mozadique and so that's that's what they've been preparing for. And it's just like and it's very much a lot of Israel policies, you know, a lot of Saudi Arabian policies, you know, Shiites versus Sunnis, you know, and it's just all goes back to just how they interpret, you know, Islam and just this fight. They're all, they're all Islamic, but they just see it a little different, so now

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So, there are already selling land rights, mineral rights, oil rights in Syria to this group of like the most evil of evil. Like there's so many levels of evil, like this black belt level of evil, like, like the Rothschild who's basically the guy from fucking The Simpsons, right? Like they literally drew that guy to look like what's his, what? Yeah, Mr. Burns, it looked like the one Rothschild guy. That dude, Dick Chaney. Somehow the governor of New Mexico gets into th. this, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. the the the the the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. thea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the one Rothschild guy. That dude, Dick Cheney. Somehow the governor of New Mexico gets into this fucking group, right? Everyone's welcome. Well, we have to have an ad hoc thing on our group.

We can't be all white evil people. So they're already selling, you know, land rights in Syria. And like people, what do you, I don't see why people don't get this. And what, and what, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, Mr. to, Mr. to, Mr. to, Mr. to, to. to, Mr. to. to, Mr. to. to, the. th. th. th. th. th. th. don't get this. And what makes me even sad, more sad, is how Hollywood is just not saying anything and just it's just a propaganda arm of this. And I, you know, I know art has always been kind of used by, you know, the powerful to get a message across, but it's never been more worse than this. There is no resistance to any, any fucking like, hey dude, we're bombing everybody.

I think, should we stop? Where's the anti-war movie? Where's them making a movie about that? Like the actual reality of the war on terror? I guess they won't get the tanks they need from the Pentagon if they don't approve the script. Oh yeah, then like every movies, like a military movie, every TV, like there's literally shows on TV called The FBI, the CIA. And you're like, oh man, let's see this incredibly hot chick, fight terrorism, and you're like, hey, I'd like to be in the FBI and the CIA.

And then you find this, this chick, Dr. Ford, her connection to the CIA CIA and it's like her father's very high up in black ops she did worked in some stuff in uh I think I'm scaring you guys at this point but some stuff she worked in like the Stanford recruitment it's like crazy and it's all interconnected it's all theater it's all theater let's talk really quickly about the the perps who were allegedly behind the anthrax attacks because it gets so tragic when you see who this guy was for what seven years Robbie Stephen Hatfield was accused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go quick. Who is the guy? This is where I go. It's the same game plan. Who is the guy doing the investigation? Our good friend Bob, right? Good old Bob! Kick him some go fund me money.

He's being unfairly persecuted. But is the go fund me the new bride? Apparently, did you see Kavanaugh's family is getting like 500K? Why? He's a fucking money so getting money. Like, what is going on? We don't have the bribe you we'll just do crowds and Democrats unwitting morons just fund your go fund me like how is this happening? It's so weird. Yeah Robbie talk about Mueller's role and this. Good old Bob. Good old Bob is running this investigation again. He's the hero he's the resistance hero though. So I mean yeah it's it's a weird it's a weird it's a weird thing that it's kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to to th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. he's the resistance hero though. So I mean, yeah, it's a weird, it's a weird thing that it's kind of like Mueller pitted

against Giuliani because both men have, you know, involvement, I believe in the, in the anthrax attacks themselves, or at least in the cover-up. I mean, Robert Mueller, while he was head of the FBI, this is a guy who was hired, I think it was around two weeks before 9-11 to be director of the FBI. So he was very new to the job. And apparently, they made a decision at some point to try and pin the attacks on this Fort Dietrich, Maryland bio-weapons scientists now retired named Stephen Hatfield. And they did just so many

things to him to essentially just try to break him as a human being and one of the things that Robert Mueller ordered was what people describe as bumper lock surveillance, which is the kind of surveillance that federal law enforcement does when they want to intimidate someone and to just psychologically just sort of get in their head and fuck with them. And one of the things they did was they called the local news, like TV stations in the area, to come and film Hatfield's house while they searched it. And they would apparently just stand outside of his house with like sunglasses on and flip

him off when he walked out of his front door? I mean, these are things that Stephen Hadfield's lawyer actually testified to in court. So what happened was Stephen Hatfield actually later said that he was so upset and depressed by being dragged through the dirt by the Bush administration for this that he contemplated suicide. But he ended up being strong enough to actually, sort ofthis, that he contemplated suicide. But he ended up being strong enough to actually sort of withstand all this pressure from the FBI. He didn't back down, he didn't admit to anything.

He had a very good lawyer representing him, and he actually filed a six million dollar, against the U.S. government. Actually, I believe it was something, originally he sued them for like hundreds of millions of dollars in the original lawsuit, but they ended up settling with him for $6 million. Because of essentially what the accusation was that John Ashcroft and other people from the Attorney General's office were basically libeling him. John Ashcroft would go out on TV and say, Stephen Hatfield, he would say his name is a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the original the their the original lawsuit the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, but their their their their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their the Attorney General's office were basically libeling him. John Ashcroft would go out on TV and say,

Stephen Hatfield, he would say his name is a person of interest. So this is a decision- The accused of being an anthrax terrorist. It's unbelievable, but keep going, Robbie. Yeah, no, and so John Ashcroft, in this lawsuit, actually, there's a videotape of John Ashcroft answering to Stephen Hadfield's lawyer and he's like, do you think it was appropriate to say Stephen Hadfield as a person of interest? And John Ashcroft just says, I don't know, and the lawyer proceeds to ask him about a hundred more questions and in the deposition,

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charge of. But how did they get pick him? Now I watched a couple videos on this and I forget the name. The guy who actually created the weaponized anthrax. I forgot what his name is, but there was rumors that, according to this video I watched, that this guy that they went after was actually his co-worker and actually helped develop this, and not that he was, it was meant to be used as a weapon the way it was, but he would have knowledge of how it was made and maybe who was actually behind it. So what a great way to actually nip that the bud, then to say he was the guy that did it. Did you hear anything about that?

Oh yeah, no, they totally, I mean, that was definitely one aspect of it because what the FBI did is in secret. While the Bush administration and Colin Powell were trying to to use the thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuux thux thux to thux thux thux thux thux thux thuat, thuate thuate the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoe who thoe who tho tho tho tho tho tho thi wo thi wo thu thu thu thu thu thu thu the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be toe toe toe toe that the the that was the the the the the the Bush administration and Colin Powell were trying to use anthrax to get us into Iraq, the FBI secretly had a profile that they were spreading around that said that they believe it was a white, lonely, depressed scientist who had expertise in making weaponized anthrax. That's it, man. Now, that profile included basically not that many people around the country fit that profile. So Stephen Hatfield was originally one of them in that profile. So was Bruce Ivans, who oddly the FBI was consulting with on the case up until around

2006. Now, but Stephen Hatfield, um, one of the main things the media tried to do to make it seem like he was the killer, was they're like, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th the main things the media tried to do to make it seem like he was the killer was they're like, well, this guy released a science fiction book sort of in the style of the Hot Zone about an imaginary bio-terror attack using anthrax. Now that's what they tried to use to be like, this is the guy. Sounds like a gay bathouse. The FBI was the, the FBI was in search of evidence that they drained a pond. Really? That one acre pond? Wow. Right? I didn't know that. They drained a pond? Yeah, the FBI. That was actually when Bruce Ivins was still consulting for them. They drained a pond in Maryland, and I believe it was trying to find some evidence

to pin Stephen Hatfield to the attacks. And then it was at a cost of something like a million dollar. I mean like it cost a lot of money to drain that pond. It was a really big pond. How about a giant pond. So I need to look into it. That's fucking amazing. We got about 50 minutes. I just want to get in some so Colin Powell

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They found evidence of rushing hacking right next to the weapons of mass destruction. And guess who was running the whole thing, killer that O.J. Simpson still looking for. Right? Right? And it's just like you're falling for it again. You're falling for again. And you know this Brian Ross guy like I mean like the story was they got these dogs named Tinkerbell Lucy and Knight like.

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Is that, nope, nobody thinks it's weird? It is, it is, it is, it is strange. It is strange. Oh, by the way, Colin Powell, very vocal kind of anti-imperialist warning us about the dangers of U.S. Agemony, when I interviewed him a couple years ago, I asked him, you know, do you have any comment on the fact that the anthrax actually came from inside the house? And he was like, what are you talking about? I was like, you don't even know that the anthrax was an inside, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thu.. thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, thrax, to, thrax, to to to thrax, to too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, thu.. thrace. thrace. When, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a.a. too. too, too, too, too, thr-a, too,tying Saddam to this. And I think that that just goes along with how much of a black hole in our memory bank,

it really is, like so much so that even these people, like, it just was a blip on the radar for them because so much other shit is going on, but really how much of an impact did the anthrax attacks really have. And this poor guy Bruce Ivans, who they ultimately pinned it on, , like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and the, and th, and th, and Ivans who they ultimately pinned it on, like Robbie was saying, he helped out with the investigation for years as someone else was unjustly accused. And then he ends up committing suicide and their whole reason for him being the perpetrator is that he was a depressed alcoholic. And so therefore there's your circumstantial evidence of how he did it.

And they're so cold blood. So they're working with this guy. So they go after Iraq, that doesn't, Al Qaeda, that doesn't work. They go after this second scientist, they get sued, that doesn't work. And this guy's working with them probably try to find out where the shit's coming from and they're just waiting to pound. They're like, who else? You fit the profile. Like, right? It's like that weird. They're like, no, no, not me, not me, right? It was the time charts. Yeah. Because during those months, he was like a lot at the, oh, right, right.

Yeah, so they were able to just be like, you were here really working hard, trying to find the perpetrator, but they went after their kids offering like millions of dollars. On their hospital bed, showing them photos of anthrax victims. I mean you can look at pictures of their houses, just ransacked. It's really hard to imagine what these people went through, especially being told to the entire world that you are a terrorist, and that you sent out anthrax to people and killed five people. And then they don't do any DNA tests on the actual envelopes, right? They don't do tests like who licks the envelope.

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He says, now it seems that the people in power have determined that I must suffer and die in order to appease the Bush Cheney power have determined that I must suffer and die in order to appease the Bush-Cheney Rumsfeld types. So this is actually something the guy who the FBI pinned the attacks on Rodin and email two months before he died, he committed suicide. So it's very disturbing. He knew, you know, he seemed to be very aware of the fact that the FBI because he was again part of their investigation had run out of options and had become desperate to try to pin it on someone. And you brought up that how he died maybe didn't even make any

sex sense for how what kind of he was an expert doctor and that he would take all this aspirin and it would be like a painful a painful Tylenol or what's it aspir painful slow Tylenol or yeah aspirin Tylenol and Cody. Does it even make sense right? Does it even make sense that he would do that? I mean these suicides are all weird these recent suicides of like people with scarfs and they're all sitting in their chairs it's just like really bizarre bizarre shit. Now the thing that we later on find out that the facility that he worked at did not actually even make make the to make to make the to make the to make the the to make the to make the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this this th. this this this th. this th. this this this th. this th. this th. th. this this th. this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th thing that we later on find out, that the facility that he worked at did not actually even make powderized anthrax, right?

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to heart who I interviewed in jail who says that he was sent documents from a rogue FBI agent who believed that the CIA was actually behind the attacks, the anthrax attacks. And in these documents, this FBI whistleblower alleges that Batel was the actual possible source for that, for the anthrax. Now that's the interesting thing about the NAS, when they came out and said the DNA didn't match, you know, we can't prove this came from Ivins. They also were essentially saying that we can't prove the DNA didn't match, you know, we can't prove this came from Ivan's, they also were essentially saying that we can't prove where this came from at all. So that's another interesting thing.

So anyone who's out there saying that the DNA proves exactly which batch this came from and where would be lying because, you know, essentially, the way the NAS describes it is, it was by design, hard to trace, which kind of of of of of of of the to to to the to to to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the they, thi, they, thi, thr, thi, thr, their, thr-a, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and, and, their, they, they, they, they, they, thr, thr, throwne, throooooooooooooooooooooooean, thean, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, the NAS describes it is it was by design hard to trace, which kind of also has some similarities to this cyber hacking attribution. You know, like it's really impossible to attribute something like that, but yet it's all blamed on Russia. And again, like Russia, this thing is, they put out information and then they use that information saying they got the information as a reason for action, right? So we're finding with the Russian collusion and the coal and the Russian dossier, or I always say it wrong,

but you know, that thing that they actually were putting that information out and then giving it to somebody, the media would mention it and then they would use that as a reason to move forward. So they put up, yeah, just like the think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think the think think the think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think thank thin, thi, thin thin thin thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thithen they would use that as a reason to move forward. So they put up. Yeah, just like the think tank stacked with CIA contractors and Iraq war architects that are now saying here's the bots and then they use the bots as a justification to say we're meddling in this election and this election. It's just a self-fulfilling prophecy engineered by the exact same people that we're talking about and Stephen, I mean poor Bruce Ivans, you look at his case study and it really does not make sense why this guy would have wanted to first of all frame Muslims right after 9-11 to pretend that he was an anthrax Muslim terrorist right and secondly why would they target the people who were opposing the Patriot

Act? So those are two lingering questions that really have never been answered. And also even if someone was to make the argument that oh he, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th. th. th, th. th. th, th. th. th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, two lingering questions that really have never been answered. And also even if someone was to make the argument that oh he was a, you know the FBI has tried to say that Ivans was a super patriot and was actually like really on Bush's side and wanted them to do more things and apparently you know one of the motives might have been that he didn't like that Dashel and Leahy were impeding the Patriot Act. But that doesn't hold up to scrutiny because no one knew that. No one outside of that inside baseball scenario knew anything about that until years later. So it's not a, it doesn't make sense as a motive for someone on the outside. However, it does make sense for someone as a motive who had inside knowledge about

those debates between Dashel and Leahy and the White House. It's like almost like a neocon sex fantasy that there's some guy going out there going, God damn these guys are holding back you. Patriot act man. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I love America. I'm gonna send anthrax. Oh, clean up bio five, you know, so we get to, so real one thing well you know it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a thi. It's a thi. It's a the their. It's a their. It's like, the the same. I. I. I. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, like, like, I'll, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thanks.eo thanananne. the the the the, um, so real one thing, well, you know, it's, it's very interesting because, uh, when you find out that there's something like, like, like, what, Russia gate, like, they found out that, you know, Hillary's biggest, witness, weakness was, uranium one, and working with the Russian. So what a great way to kind of, you know, I kind of deflect that from you and onto your opponents. Say he's, he's doing all this fucking shit and he's doing all this. So what a great way is like deflect it from that you actually did this and put it on to Bruce Irving's like that because you knew that it was going to eventually come out that the truth.

I don't even know if I made sense right there. No, it makes sense. Yeah, that's exactly what it happened. I had this and I go, where are you going with this point in my head? I want to go into a dark winter because you sent me that like a day or you sent me this and i couldn't read the whole thing i go what should i focus on and you go these pages in dark winter and uh... for people listen's podcast when you hear about dark winter it will all really make sense to you can tell us robie a little bit about dark winter

yes so dark winter so dark winter so dark winter was a bio terror attack simulation drill that took place just a few months before 9-11 from I believe it was June 22nd to the 23rd of 2001. And in this drill were actually four U.S. journalists participated in it. One of them was Judith Miller, who later became infamous for being a big conduit for the Bush administration's Iraq war propaganda.

And two other participants from the U.S. government were also in it. James Woolsey, former CIA director and Jerome Hower, managing a director at Kroll Inc., was the company in charge of World Trade Center security around the time of 9-11. This drill is very bizarre in many ways because it eerily seems to predict the anthrax attacks that would happen just a few months later in October 2001. And we hear this term fake news all the time now and the term crisis actors, you know, and it sort of has lost its meaning somewhat, but Operation Dark Winter is essentially has simulated news broadcasts with actors playing reporters.

You can actually go watch them on YouTube right now if you type in Operation Dark Winter, describing this simulated event. And what it was, was in this script for this drill, the U.S. government was trying to deal with a bioterror smallpox attack on Oklahoma City. You know, that links back again to the Oklahoma City bombings, but what's interesting about the script that they wrote as each consecutive day of the drill, the time is compressed in the drill itself. It only took place over two days, but the the the the the the actual the actual the actual the actual the actual the actual the actual the actual the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes, the the the theaui, thoes, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the... the the the theuu.. theu. the theu. theu.s. theu.s. theu.s.s.s.s.s.s. the the theu.su.su.s.s. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that they wrote as each consecutive day of the drill, the time is compressed in the drill itself. It only took place over two days, but the actual events in the scenario last about two weeks.

So the time gets compressed, and over each consecutive day in this simulation, the disease spreads further out of Oklahoma City to the point where millions of people in the US are infected from smallpox that was delivered by terrorists. And the very last news broadcast that you can go watch on YouTube again says that the U.S. government now believes that whoever delivered this smallpox was dealing with state actors in Iraq and they delivered it through like proxies from Afghanistan, working with Bin Laden's al-Qaeda group. So this is a very odd that a drill took place you know only

three months before the anthra, actual anthrax attacks that had so many similarities to the attacks themselves. And you know in the drill I think it was something like at the end of it it's basically a full-on societal collapse in the drill, I think it was something like at the end of it, it's basically a full-on societal collapse in the United States. The stock market has been closed. Hospitals are completely full. People are being rounded into camps by the CDC in the U.S. Army. There's martial law.

So again, in this drill, they also sort of go into the, you know, the stuff we usually only used to hear about on the Alex Jones show, you know, in terms of like rounding people up and setting into camps, this is actually something that happens in this drill because so many people aren't able to get treatment for smallpox. And in the drill, they also say that terrorists have now sent a threatening letter into a reporter saying that they have anthrax next and that that's going to be the next attack after smallpox and in reality outside of this drill three months later anthrax killed five Americans. It is unbelievable if you follow the show you realize simulation drills

happen so much within these high impact events. Almost every one of them you can find out that they were running a drill at some point. There's actually audio of a drill being ran during 9-11 why it was going and the fighter pilot going is this live? Is this real or is this still a drill? And I mean like I know you guys deal more into geopolitics of it, but within this show we could break down all these different high impact events and there's, you know, I mean, the Parkland shooting, there's kids going, well they were running a drill and then we didn't know it was real and then it's just like, oh, it's like over and over again, we see these things happen and that is actually a calling card of these

things where we go, okay, there's some dark elements to go. And do you believe that if you sit there and go that that the anthrax is a inside job, does that have some correlation to 9-11 in your eyes, Rob, is that too much of a leap? No, I think, I mean, it's absolutely, absolutely what I would say. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they, they, th, they, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th in your eyes, Rob, has that too much of a leap? No, I think, I mean, it's absolutely, absolutely what I would say. And I mean, even the FBI's official conclusion is that it was an inside job. I mean, they say it was a loan. They just say it's a lone nut, you know, who worked for the government who went crazy. But I would, but I would argue that it's definitely a conspiracy. to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe. toe. toe. toe. to that it's it's definitely a conspiracy. It wasn't one it couldn't have been done by one person. It would have been impossible. Coordinated effort. And it had to have been a coordinated effort that I believe possibly even involved some of the same neo-conservatives who you know

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You know, and I don't know how you handle this, but you know, for me it's just like, I can only control myself. Yes, and like I have to control my and how I interact with people. Right. You know, treat people who have it heart and like not stop thinking they're there by bad decisions they made but sometimes light dealt them some bad hands and maybe right out of the womb they got bad hands and maybe show a little empathy, you know. Empathy is key. You know, not and I mean I'm watching this video

That you put out Robbie and I'm seeing fucking John McCain Lie through his fucking teeth and I'm like, you know Then they're like what a war hero he was he like cared so much about America and you're like I go I can't in this moment where he's about the past and we are setting the record on his legacy. I can't let people quietly or just just eat it all up. I'm gonna fucking shit in your birthday cake and I'm gonna let you know that guy's a fucking war criminal and he fucking profited off the deaths of brown people and your sons and daughters. Yes negative dissonance is insane dude. We can't tie the migrant crisis and the immigration crisis to our policies?

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