Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #140: An Open Secret With Matt Valentinas

Episode Date: November 12, 2018

Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome from the mind-blowing documentary "An Open Secret," Matt Valentinas, to discuss his movie and Hollywood's dark dark secret! Total Disclosure: I butchered Matt's las name. Thank you so much for all of your support. Please check out our sponsor Ridgewallet.com and receive 10% off any purchase of one of their RFID blocking wallets by using the promo code "TFH10!"

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topics that this show needs to discuss because it's such an ugly thing and like there's always people telling you oh there's no proof of this no proof of this there's so much proof of this and this next gentleman help produce a a documentary which basically broke down one one giant instance of this which ran rapid everywhere. Please welcome from the doc, the open secret. He's an entertainment lawyer out of Boston. Let's not hold it against him, okay?

Just because his Red Sox ran a train on my Dodgers. Okay, this guy's doing good work out there. Please welcome. Matthew, what's your last name? Valentinus. Valentinus, I didn't want to butcher it. Please welcome Matthew Valentinus, everybody. Thank you buddy for coming on the show. I appreciate it, man.

How are you? I'm great, man. And thank you having me. And I just want to say, it's comedians really who are bringing light to a lot of the big issues right now, shows like yours. So it's really great to be here and I think you guys are the front line of free speech right now. It's definitely not journalists, it's definitely not the media.

It's really just down to comedians. It's not even rock and roll anymore. It's you guys are the rock and roll of this era when it comes to speaking the truth. So, thank you. Well, thank you very much. You know, I definitely do battle on the front line, Matthew of political correctness, freedom of speech. I do believe they go after comics because comedy is something that you don't need

financial backing to do. Most of your art, you need to to to to to to to to to to to to make, make, make, make, make, make, make, make to make, make to make to make, make, make to make to make to make to make, make to make, make to make to make to make, make to make to make to make, make, make, make it, make, make it's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. theatsya. theatsu. theatsu. theatsu. theatsu. thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, need financial backing to do. Most of your art you need huge financial backings to make, whether it's put on a play, make a movie, make a TV show, all that stuff. Stand-up comedy, podcasting, you just need a microphone and it scares people. The notion that someone can go see a comedy show and then go on a crime spree is just ridiculous. Yet we see in dramas and movies where violence happens in the movies and then it we see it happen in real life. I mean a lot of these school shootings all all look a lot like these video games out

there but nobody says anything. But comedy like the slippery slope that everybody tries to make it and there's so, there's so many rules of political correctness. And one thing that's upsets me about Hollywood, Matthew, is how pedophilia has become a partisan issue and people use it to only get mad when it's the other side committing it. And when their side's committing it, then it's not an issue and it's all conspiracy theories and you're Alex Jones. And we've seen from the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. th. th. thoes thoes thoes thoes tho. rules tho. rules tho. rules thoes thoes. rules thoes th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. rules th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho thooooo the the the the the the the the the the the the the thooooooooooooooooooooooo tho tho tho tho And when their side's committing it, then it's not an issue and it's all conspiracy theories and you're Alex Jones. And we've seen from your movie, The Open Secret, which is available all over the place, whether it's YouTube, Bin Mo, right? It's everywhere. You can watch it. It is a powerful, powerful doc. Your thoughts on just the politicizing

of pedophilia and how it's become partisan, where one side argues it when the other side is doing it, but then doesn't seem to care when their side gets busted. Thoughts on that? It's been a weird ride. I mean, we started this in 2011. My partner and I, Gabe Hoffman, he's really the financial backer of this. So we're about, he's about two million

into this already, you know, not including hundreds, thousands of man hours that we put into this project. But what we've seen on Twitter, Twitter as it's evolved over the years is different people, like you said, using it for their own reasons, we try and be agnostic. Will, if Alex Jones has us on the show, we'll go. If somebody on the left wants to have us on the show, we'll go. We really don't care. We just want to get it out there. What we have seen is that the left is more concerned about right-wing people

bringing up this issue than they are actually about talking about it. For instance, I had BuzzFeed call me up and try and do, like, I would call it almost a hit piece, just because they didn't like some of the people that we were retweeting who were supporting our show, but they could care less about pedophilia. So that's the type of stuff that we've been battling. And it's weird, because we really don't take a position. I would say on our political leanings personally, I'm right down the middle.

Gabe's probably more right wing, but he's sick to the facts. So we go wherever anyone reports on this. And we brought this to all sorts of media outlets, left and right, and the right has been more receptive. The left is more afraid of it. And I think a big part of that is, is because the left is controlled by a lot of people who don't want this information to come out. And I'm not saying that as a conspiracy theory. We didn't make this documentary to attack the left or to attack Hollywood. to to to to the to to the to the the to the to the the to the to the the the to the the to attack the the the the to attack the the to attack the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the thofea thilea the their their their their left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left left the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the to attack to attack to attack to attack to to to to thoooooo.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea.lea. Left. not saying that as a conspiracy theory. We didn't make this documentary to attack the left or to attack Hollywood. I'm an entertainment reporter. I lived in LA for years. I love Hollywood. I love movies. We made the focus on Hollywood because pedophilia is everywhere. And we figured it's hard to teach people about pedophilia. And Hollywood would be a good way to teach them about it that didn't really have the the the the the to attack to attack the to attack to attack to attack to attack the to attack to attack the to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack the to attack the to attack to attack to attack the to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack the left to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack to attack the left the left the left the the left the the the the the left the left the the the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left the left. to attack. to to attack. to to to to teach people about pedophilia and Hollywood would be a good way to teach them about it that didn't really have a side.

Because if you look at the Catholic Church, Catholics are going to be offended. I'm a lapsed Catholic. My own church where I was baptized that has been sold to pay off for pedophile victims. If you look at schools like Penn State, alumni will defend their school because they feel like they're being attacked. So that was the main reason why we chose Hollywood because we felt it had international breadth. People would be interested. There would be some big names involved. We could shoot it locally.

We knew there was an abundance of material. And then we thought it would get interest. There's plenty of documentaries about child abuse, but they get lost because there's no one really interesting to it. So we didn't want it to be tabloid, but let's be honest in today's market, you need to have a draw to get people to see things, and that's why we chose Hollywood. And the third part is, we really thought once we got this information out there, Hollywood would jump on it and support us like the

Me Too movement. But in fact, they did the opposite and it was astounding. And then we saw what happened with the Me Too movement and how that was bastardized and taken over by hypocrites and it was just about women and it was mostly about female actresses. It wasn't even about the average person and they never once mentioned children. But even then. No I'm with you on that. You know the I feel like right now that there's a big movement from the right on this because you know the Clintons are very much in the crossfires they are the I mean if you really break this down there are a big face the th th th th th th th th th of th th of th th th th th th th th th th th th of th th thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. taons are very much in the crossfires. They are the... I mean, if you really break this down, they're a big face of this movement. And, you know, you brought up, because, you know, I've had people...

This show is kind of like what you're talking about. Very much down the middle. I don't believe in black and white. I think the world is gray. During this past voting, I voted for, I wouldn't vote for D's or R. The only people I voted for is the people who said none, no party. And then I voted on all the different kind of bills that they wanted the past, which for some reason, LA voted for no rent control, which lets me know nobody voted except for landlords. You're gonna go fuck. I mean it just makes no fucking sense but the point is I don't play on either side. I get I get a lot of pushback from the right when I say both sides are in this pedophilia right now.

When we look at the Clintons and we look at Hollywood it comes off as a very left thing but when you like you brought it up you look at the, the Catholic church like the priest in the the the the the the the C, the the C, the C, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, it just thinks, it just thi thi thi, it just thi, it just thu-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-n-in-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n, th fu, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-ffff, th-in, th-in, thin, thin, thin, th-s, th-I th-I-I th-I-I-I-I-I-I's-I's-I's-I's-I's-I's-I's-I's-I's thoooo'-s, tho'-s, th, but when you, like you brought it up, you look at the uh, uh, the Catholic Church, like the, the priest of the Catholic Church, where do you think they vote? They vote right. They're very rarely are they voting left. Uh, and then you look at the Franklin scandal, which nobody wants to talk about. Uh, you know, I mean, that was pedophilia in the White House. the White House, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the priest, the priest, the priest, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the priest. the, the, the, the, the, that was pedophilia in the White House. They were busted with underage boyhookers, okay? I mean, I mean, the Boys Town, you ever hear, you know what they call Hollywood? West Hollywood, Boys Town. Well, that's based on a, basically a Catholic foster care, like camp that basically this stuff went rampant.

So that's what it used to be? No, but that's where the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the name the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys their boys their boys their boys their boys their boys their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta.a. ta. ta. toya. toys. toya. toya. toya. toya. toya. the the the the the the the the stuff went rampant. So that's what it used to be? No, but that's where the name comes from, Boys Town? And now they call West Hollywood Boys Town. I mean, it's just, it's very, it's on both sides of the spectrum. And just these R's and D's are just used to get us to fight with each other. And the fact that, you know, we had Hollywood, you mentioned it where it was all about female actresses and it was all like, believe all victims, and then I go until you talk about pedophilia, and then everybody will run around and call you Alex Jones. And I don't understand, because apparently believe all victims who are female over 18 years old.

And then we found with the Kavanaugh stuff, it wasn't true. And you know, these people came forward and lie because we all saw it was a political thing, not that I'm saying. Cavanaul isn't like a scumbag. I don't know if he was like aggressive women or not. He probably was. And you know, they basically took that trial and they framed it as a, his sexual past. They didn't talk about the fact that he basically wrote the Patriot Act, believes in militarizing the police, doesn't believe in search warrants when they search your house.

I mean, it's just like, those are real issues we should talk about. Nobody talked about it, because they wanted to talk about his sexual past and this woman coming forward saying that he witnessed her, like trains ran on her multiple times, which you go- Either you join or you fucking say something well yeah well you should I mean like dude first of all why are you going to a place where the running trains on you all the time like how many times you got to go there before you're like okay maybe I don't need to go to the house of trains okay I should stay home and it's just a truth so they politicized that you had all these women all these actors the actors the actors the actors the actors the the the the the the their their their their their to to their to their to their their to their their to to their their to to to to their to to to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tre. true. I I I true. I true. I'm. I'm. true. true. true. true. tr go and believe all victims because they personalized it to their own thing.

You have these very powerful women in Hollywood trying to relate to the everyday woman. It's kind of like what I think about LeBron James, right? Lebron James has been rich and famous since he's 14 years old. The only time he's seen real racism, let's say, is when they kicked him out of his senior year of his basketball tournament and they kicked him out because he's driving a Hummer, okay, as a senior in high school. So he's been a billionaire since day one, like a millionaire to a billionaire since day one. So he has to have these moments where he's like, I'm the victim of racism so he can relate to the kids in schools that he wants, he wants, he wants, he wants, he wants, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he...a, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, thi.l-a.I's thi.l-a.l-a.I's a. thi. thi. thi. thin, he's thi. thr. th th th th th th th th th relate to the kids in the schools that he wants them to buy all of his products, Sprite, his sneakers and all that stuff. So you see that with these very powerful women in Hollywood where they're trying to act

like, you know, the everyday they just got to beat Dix off just to be able to go do their fucking job because they had a bad day in an open mic. That's what you do. So it's like this weird kind of politicizing of sexual assault, which makes a lot of the real victims, they don't get heard because they're lost in all these people virtue signaling to their Twitter followers and all that stuff. And it's kind of gotten ugly. What made you get into doing this project? Because it's very ballsy, man. We've had a couple people come on and they've done similar projects and they talk about how hard it is to get any kind of backing you alluded to that earlier. What made you decide that this was a project you wanted to do?

Well, Gabe and I, we had went to NYU together and actually he wanted to do like a boxing documentary, but he's been very successful as a hedge fund manager and then he decided, hey, I want to do something to give back and especially victims of sexual abuse, women and children. So it took about six months to a year to sort of finalize on this topic. I mean I had lived out there, I lived in West Hollywood. So I'd heard a lot of the rumors that we discussed in our film. And we really thought, who would defend pedophiles? Who would not be astounded by this? What is an issue that you can pick that 99% of the people will be on your side?

So we thought, hey, let's get people pedophiles and everyone will be on our side. Right. And what we discovered in Hollywood, this went, we knew it went deep, but it went so deep that it was even beyond what we thought. We were pretty sophisticated and we, you know, we hired investigators and we did six months of research before even committing to doing the documentary. So really the reason was, we wanted to end to end to end to, we wanted to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the their their their their their their to be, and to be, and their their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their Hollywood, their Hollywood, their, their Hollywood, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their one one one one one one one., and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, tieieuiiiioleckli., tho.shihihihiiioliolioliolioliolioliolioli. And, their even committing to doing the documentary. So really the reason was we wanted to end or at least raise awareness for pedophilia because we think it's one of the biggest problems in the country above opiates. It happens everywhere. You know, it's probably happening right now within three miles of your studio.

And it affects so many people and most families know somebody that had happened to. And it really needs to be a national issue. So that, that's kind of why we chose it. And we thought Hollywood would be, would be more helpful in getting the word out. And we thought we would be lauded and people would be, oh my God, this is happening in Hollywood. We can make an example and change it. We can all wear, you pens pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins pins the pins the pins th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. And thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. And thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And th, we can make an example and change it. We can all wear, you know, pins to award shows talking about how awful it is. And instead they try to cover it up and sue us and bury the film. What do you think that stems from?

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losing his royalty checks, he was working at a trader Joe's. So he didn't even think about that. I didn't even think about that. I think William Morris lost millions and thions thions thions thions that thions that that that that that that that that thions that that that thions thi thous thous thous thous thous thous thi thi thi thi thi thi thoes thoes thea thi thi theases theases theases that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thoes theases theases theases theases theases theases theases the the the the the the the the the the the the the thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus to to toe to toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe that that that the the the the think about that's why I did it. I didn't even think about that. I think William Morris lost millions and millions of dollars when that show was taken off the air. Okay, so now imagine if Nickelodeon has to take off five of their biggest franchises. Yeah, man. Right. That's the level that we're at on this. We're talking about billions of dollars. What if Disney has that has to suddenly has to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to suddenly to level that we're at on this. We're talking about billions of dollars. What if Disney has to suddenly give up

some of their main franchise? All of us, it's money. They want this to go away. I don't think that they're supporting it. I do think they're enabling it, but I think they're out, it'll affect them, the franchise's bottom line, that's it. And it's so, it was, it's, it's in so many projects and so many films and there's so many loose affiliations to pedophiles on everything that if they try to clean it up all at once the

industry would be torn down. I think it's a bigger scandal than the church scandal and that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi that's that's thi thi thi thi that's thi that's thi that's thi. That's the church scandal, and that's pretty out of control as it is. Well, I will tell you that I believe the church scandal is brought out by the people in Hollywood when stuff starts getting too hot on them. I think the Catholic Church is whipping boys, and they know nothing's going to happen to the Catholic Church. We know, yeah, your church was sold because they got covered debts, but does anyone go to jail? I don't know. Does anyone ever go to jail? Does anybody other than dirt poor pedophiles go to jail?

I think it's only the poor. I mean, and you know, you've done more research to me, but in this time of me covering this with this show, I have found that the use of pedophilia is a little bit more diabolical than some people want to know that there's actually, it's actually used in, specifically in politics, I don't know to the extent in Hollywood, but definitely in politics where it's used as a form of blackmail to get people to play ball. When you're talking billions and billions of dollars, the people at the top do not want to risk any chance that the coin flip won't go their way. So it's very, so they love to put these people in power.

And it's, you know, it's really sad. But when I look at people who make it really, really, really big in Hollywood, I think. th th, it th, th, th. th. tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thate, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho-a, tho----a, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, a thi, thi, thi. thi. thin. tho, thoomomomoomoomoomorrow, to to to to to to to to to to to to toomoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, big in Hollywood, I think a couple of things have gone on. Either they've sold their soul, like literally and figuratively, or they've engaged in some pretty weird sex shit that they, in order to show that they're down with the cause and willing to play ball, and that includes pedophilia. Well that, I consider it organized crime. Oh, for sure. I think it's like organized crime. They're they're a Jewish cartel. Yeah.

For sure. And when you say stuff like that, people get weirded out. When you say, like, you can pound on the Catholic church and everyone's like Catholics. But when you go, Hollywood is the Jewish version of the Catholic Church, people start to get really uncomfortable. But it's true, it's just 100% true. And it's nothing to do with Judaism. And the average Judaism person who practices Judaism, we're talking about specific people who happen to have a religion that I don't even believe they actually follow.

I think they use it as just a mask so they can walk amongst us. And you find that across boards of all religions, very powerful people at the very highest, all engage in this stuff. It is almost the currency of playing ball, you know? And that's kind of... When it comes... Here's the thing, we definitely agree with you, it's organized crime. And that's what we've discovered. There's an organized crime ring here. There's different levels. And really pedophilia is used as a power control. It's even more powerful

than money. Okay. It's even more powerful than drugs. But drugs and money are used with that. Now when you get into the Jewish cartel stuff, I have to say, you know, my partner to do this, he's Jewish. Amy Ferg, who into the Jewish cartel stuff, I have to say, you know, my partner is this, he's Jewish, Amy Berg, who directed this, he's Jewish. Nobody's, again, we're not condemning the Jews. That's also saying not all Catholics toucest children. I mean, when you say, when you say the Catholic church, we're not talking about everybody, we're not talking about everybody, and and I specifically said, it's not a condemning of the entire religion. We're talking about a condensed group of people. And if you can sit

there and pound on the Catholic Church and say Catholics, these Catholics are pedophiles, you have to look what's going on in Hollywood and maybe it's not 99% or 90% or 80% but it is a majority of certain people and again I don't believe they're actually practicing it I think it's just a mask to walk around and it's just it is what it is and I understand you my girlfriend's Jewish, her family is Jewish they go to Israel every year I have nothing but love for all them. They do not do engage in this. They don't. But these people we see are at the highest level. Here's what we do know. It's a group of very powerful men, older men in Hollywood, who are at the tippy top of this. Who

are so powerful, we can't even mention their names right now. But let me give you an example of the type of power they have. So Bohemian Rhapsody is a big hit right now. It just came out a week or two of the go. We all know how Brian Singer was kicked off that. We all know how these allegations about him were very public before you even started shooting that movie. And I believe it was Stacey Snyder, president of Fox. You saw that article in the Hollywood reporter by Kim Masters last week. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the president of Fox, you saw that article in the Hollywood reporter by Kim Masters last week. I mean, she said,

you know, to paraphrase, behave yourself, don't break any rules, right? But why would they even take the risk of having Brian do that movie? Well, it made money, first of all. But second of all, maybe there's somebody above Stacey Snyder that said, you know what,???. th, no, no, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, and, and, and, and th.... And, and th. And, and thi, and I, and I, and thi, thi, and I's, thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee. thi. thee. thee. thi. thi, the thi, there's somebody above Stacy Snyder that said, you know what, Brian has to do it. Brian's gonna do it and that's that. Yeah. And that's what's going on in Hollywood right now. The top level people, there's only, I'd say there's less than a hundred to 200 people that really have

any say in anything in Hollywood. And then then there's probably a group under 50 that are the most powerful, and then there's probably a group under 20 that really say anything. They can have and kill anything they want. With our film, I can't prove it, but our thing was originally supposed to be on Showtime. You know, the president of Showtime loved it, David Nevins, who's now been bumped up to the president of CBS. And what we got was a request from Les Moonvex to personally screen the film. Usually a guy as big as Les was at the time, probably one of the most powerful men in television, for sure.

Doesn't really need to see a small documentary that, you know, will get picked up for a million dollars and shown on Showtime to a couple hundred thousand people, right? But he did. And then we had to send it over to him. We had to have a messenger sit there and wait for him to watch it and then take it back because we didn't want it to get out. And then a week later showtime didn't want to do the deal. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the they, they's they's they's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, having a good relationship with our director, they did her other films, they even went on and showed her other films after our film. So we think less killed the movie. Oh, we think there's a good chance less did. And stuff like that is weird. And when we find out later, all the stuff that's going out with Les Moonvez, he's been kicked

out. And that's scared a bunch of very powerful people because he represents a very powerful click of people. And the fact that he's been removed scares people because they've always been able to control it. And it's gotten very big right now, you know, and it's the internet. And do you look at Dan Schneider? If you look at that whole Viacom, CBS, what was going on, deal structure, if you look behind the scenes and that, I think they were cleaning house on a lot of things and that's why it was an internal battle. And if you look at Dan Schneider, we've always suspected that there's issues with Dan Schneider. Okay. He was actually our first target. The fact that the th. th. th. th. th. th. the thget. The fact that this guy is still working, did they just let him go?

They just let him go. If you don't know who Dan Snyder is, he's, I mean like I'm gonna be very kind. He's an overweight guy who was on a show called I believe head of the class, right that the name of it and um he since went on to produce several Nickelodeon shows I Carly Drake and Josh Sam and Cat victorious can you look up the Nickelodeon logo is the Nickelodeon logo a foot is it a foot foot yeah well word is that Dan has a foot fetish. Um, we go back to, uh, uh, yeah, look at Nickelodeons. Look at Nicolodeans. One of them is one of them. Not all of them, but one of them is a foot, a foot.

A foot. And what we also have to look at is you would think, okay, once they got rid of Dan Schneider, they would put in somebody who would protect the company and clean house if any of the allegations against Dan were true. But the guy they put in to run the company is a guy named Brian Robbins, and I believe it's Robbins. And he's one of Dan's best friends. They were on head of the class together. Oh my God.

The whole bunch of kills at Nickelodeon for years. So they fired Dan Schneider, but it's best friends now running the company. It's why, why is what you have to ask yourself. And if information comes out about Dan Schneider, I think it, and evidence comes out showing that there are some issues, that could affect the entire network. And now we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars. And if the average American finds out that a lot of their, what their children are watching on a daily basis is produced by pedophiles, they might get upset about it.

They might wake up. Well, that's the whole thing right now that's going on. Now, you know. Dude, they control the internet. Right now I tap in a, down Snyder and then the letter P. All the way to pedophile, doesn't show up. Yeah. It's like it know who Jamie Spears is? That's Britney Spears sister, who mysteriously just quit Hollywood? Yeah, she was doing that one show.

Yeah, yeah, they said she was pregnant. Yeah, well there's a rumor about who the dad might be. But, oh, yeah, right? And it is crazy. What I've learned is that people hate pedophilia when it's in their neighborhood. But when it's not in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theirophilia when it's in their neighborhood. But when it's not in their neighborhood, it's not the biggest deal. How many games did Penn State lose from this scandal? Did they, not, I mean, like, not in terms of forfeiting record. I'm talking actually not playing. None. SMU, their football program got the death penalty because two players took cash.

They got the death penalty. They didn't get to play football for like two years because they took cash. Penn State did not lose one game. Not one. It's just, it's unbelievable to me. And it goes back to what I wanted to say, which... Michigan State too, with Dr. Larry Nassar. I don't know if they've had to suffer after what that guy did.

Not one, man. Teenage girls, you know, not one, no. Not one, and now we take a look at what's going on with the Clint's right. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. thi. toe. toe. toe. toean. toean. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. you can have your opinions on Trump. I hope Trump succeeds just the way I hope Obama succeeded. The reason I like Trump more, and I'll be honest with you, is because the media seems to be doing reporting on a bunch of stuff, telling us what's going on, even if some of it is an over-exaggeration. You know, it's like what's the difference between Obama and Trump is like, it's like your significant others cheating on you, do

you want to know about it or don't you want to know about it? If you do want to know about it, that's Obama, okay? But they seem to be doing it, but this new attorney general they got seems to be wanting to go after the Clintons and it's probably a bit. Here's a connection between Clinton and Trump when it comes to pedophilia. I know you're talking about. I think he's I think he's the number three guy in the Department of Justice right now. If you read the the book called Filthy Rich by James Patterson was also co-written by John Connolly who's in our documentary it talks about the deal

that Jeffrey Epstein got. He's a famous Hollywood Wall Street type of guy who knows everybody and I think he only did like six months or pedophiliate and he's friends with Clinton. He was friends with Trump for a while. I'll give tru credit. He kicked him out of Marilago. And people don't ever talk about that. He did kick him out, and I'm not saying it's perfect, but he did kick him out of the hotel when he realized some shit was dumb. That's just facts, you know. And but the dude, the prosecutor, who gave Jeffrey Epstein the sweetheart deal in Florida, is now like the number three dude in the Department of Justice. And that case has so many holes in it and there's now more books being written on it and there's

going to be more information coming out on it that it just doesn't reflect well. The dude that made that deal should be ashamed of himself. I know he says he had to make it, but no he didn't. And it's just, if you're rich and powerful, that justice doesn't matter. And we as Americans need to take, if we can't put pedophiles away, we've lost our country. It doesn't matter what side of the. Did Mueller make a deal with him as well? Like a super sweet deal. Like, and everyone's given Molly because supposedly he like flipped on people.

That's a big thing they were saying about Mueller. But going back to the Clintonsonsonsonse this big thing that they're going to get hit on tax evasion instead of all the other dark shit because they think it's too much for people. They won't be able to handle the truth about what's going on in Washington if they really find out what's going on. Now, before I get into your doc, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, th, th and th and th, th, that, that, that, that, th, that, that, th, that, that, th, th, that's, th, that's, that's, th, that's, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the, the, their, their, their, they, they, they, they's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. is thean, thi.ean, thean, thea. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi,'s going on. Now, before I get into your doc, because there's some wonderful information put out in there, have you ever heard of anything about Anthony Wiener's laptop? Yes, yes. You know, we've heard that there might be more on that than we've thought.

We'd love to see what else is on there. You know, there's certainly some connections between him and, and, you know, there are remote connection. I don't like to give hard information, you know, I only like to give hard information, so I don't want to stipulate, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some connections to who he was getting, you know, child porn from, uh, might be connected to some people in Hollywood. But we heard there was some hardcore child porn on there that a lot of it and he pretty much got a light deal also. Dude it says that the FBI failed to review hundreds of thousands of emails on that laptop. Yeah, and then you have the NYPD police chief going, what I saw on this computer

made me cry. Made me cry. And for those people, that's fucking. They've seen everything. They've seen everything. And they go, if they don't show this, if they don't tell everybody what's on this, we're going to, we've already copied and sent it all over the country. We will send it the WikiLeaks if they don't say what's going on. Loretta Lynch comes in, drops hammer on them, that was a Tarmic meeting. This is what I've learned.

I'm saying this. This is not Matthew saying this. This is Sam saying this. This is this thin this this this this this this try. Uh, they meet Clinton's meat end this thing right now or else we're going to blow up this story about I can't breathe, that guy who got choked out, which is super sad. Super sad. But that's what happened. That police chief was forced to resign or he quit and nothing came out. Well, Wikileaks dropped another Volt 7 recently. And in there was two sheets of basically two emails that basically said that Anthony Wiener and I, you go to the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the Tim the the Tim the the that Anthony Weiner and I you go to the

Timfoil hat pod Instagram they're available you can see where it says Anthony Weiner produce child pornography that is an official document from Wikileaks bats a thousand it's never and what's embarrassing about that you have the woman who was very close to being president of the United States and her closest confidants, husband is into child porn. So what does that say about their ability to judge people's character? It's shocking. Well, it's shocking. That is an assumption that she would not want that. Again, it's like I said, the mark, she would have to be the most unlucky human being to be surrounded by such dark. I mean, I want to

get into your thing because there is connections to the Clintons in this, but, I mean, you broke down the history of Brian Singer, which is unbelievable. I mean, since 1994, there have been. Since 1994, there have been problems with Brian Singer and what he's done. And listen, dude, you know, I always say this in comedy because of political correctness. Comedy is how much money can you make off your mental illness, okay? And some of us are sicker than others, all right?

But Singer must be a great director, but he's got serious problems. And he's surrounded by people who are constantly getting him in trouble. Like Kevin Spacey, like they had to halt the usual suspects, which is what they just did with the Queen video because Brian Singer was acting fucking weird and Kevin Spacey was having inappropriate sexual behavior. April 18, 1997. Singer and Appupupil Productions are sued by Xer for allegedly filming their son and other minds naked in the shower. I mean, what are we doing here? Ninety-97 to 2000, singer-introduced Brock Pierce to the founders of Den. Can you, oh, you guys go really hard into Den? Can you, can you explain to our listeners what Den was?

Sure. Den stands for the digital entertainment network. It was sort of the tail end of the internet boom in the late 90s. And it was run by a guy named Mark Collins Rector, who was in his, I think at the time, early 40s, late 30s. And another guy named Chadley, who was Mark his, I think at the time, his early 40s, late 30s, and another guy named Chad Shackley, who was Mark's boyfriend. Now Mark started dating Chad when he was 15 years old, okay? And he even moved out to Michigan to be with Chad, and then he got Chad's parents permission to move Chad out to Hollywood with him.

So Chad was underage when they started dating. And Mark was 20, 25 years old. So that's that's, to that's, to to that's to to to that's to to to that's to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th thi's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, th th th th th th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th, Mark's th, Mark's th, Mark's th, Mark's th, Mark's th, Mark's th, th, th, th, thi's thi's thi's thi thi thi thi thi thii threatee thi threate thi threate thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi' thi thi th to move Chad out to Hollywood with him. So Chad was underage when they started dating. And Mark was 20, 25 years old. So that's just to give you an idea of what this guy is like. And now Mark also brought in a guy named Brock Pierce. Well, this guy's insanity. When you see the video of him in your thing, you see in his eyes, that guy is well, he is wise. I don't know if the words wise, to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the to the the the to to the to the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to in his eyes that guy is well he is why I don't know if the words wise but he is beyond his age. There is a grown-up look in a very young child's eyes. I looked and I go this kid is advanced for his age he's been through some

shit trauma something but that guy's very advanced. 18 when he was actually hired as president of the company. But you know he had been involved in Hollywood many years before that and I think he's most famous for the mighty ducks franchise. He was one of the kids in that. Okay. And then if you look up Brock Pierce, I know John Oliver did a piece on him last year. He's one of the, you know, one of the bigger names in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, which happens to also be a big way that a lot of illicit criminals, organized crime and pedophiliant Dark Web do transactions. You can't track it down. There's no way to track that down. So it's a perfect way. Yep. Right. And he's also probably, we suspect he might still be in touch with Mark Collins Rector okay, so anyways back back to den those three guys sort of started den and they raised

I think around 200 million dollars which was a lot of money back in 2,1999. No, they were 72 million before it even opened up in 99. Yeah, that's some shady shit. Yeah, 72 million. That's a fuckload of money before even opening up. Yeah, that's some shady shit. That's 72 million. That's a fuck load of money before you've been opening up. Yeah, that's a lot of shady dollars. I mean, some of the investors were David Geffen, uh, Ariana Huffington's white, Michael Huffington put in, put in 5 million. Um, I think the guy who runs a Garish agency or one of the Garish family was in there. If you look look, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th, th, thi, thi, th. That, th. That, th. That, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, th Garish agency or one of the Garish family was in there. If you look at the SEC filing from that time, you'll see a lot of big Hollywood names who were invested.

I'm not even sure. I don't know if Steve Bannon invested then or if he invested with Brock Pierce, but Bannon and Brock Pierce have worked together on things. So anyways, what I'm trying to say is there was a lot of highly sophisticated smart people investing in this business, which clearly wasn't making it dying, but was spending money like crazy, and was really more just a way, it was more of like a private club to be around Little Boys. That's really what it was. I mean, it just mostly fueled a lot of crazy purchases.

They made some crazy, stupid videos that were horrible. They couldn't sell. They actually were, Wayne had their time. They had the belief kind of of like a YouTube type thing or, excuse me, Netflix. But the technology wasn't there to do that but I don't think they gave a shit I mean singer do go on sorry about that they knew that so they were it was just an excuse it was a really highly organized front they knew the technology wasn't there to actually deliver

video over the internet yet you know it was very slow justthere, it wasn't going to be there for years. So why would people this smart invest in something that stupid, right? Especially that late in the game in the 90s. I mean, I think pets.com was around, people knew the bubble was about to burst. So it was clearly a cover, and we're talking highly sophisticated, smart businessmen who had made billions and it was really just a way to buy-in of the table to go to this party. And there's not that many women that that invested, okay? It's mostly men and men of a certain predicament, you know, the predilection is what we're trying to say. And they used it to really, there's a guy named Randall Kaiser who directed Greece, right?

And I think he also directed the last Starfight. So he's friends with all these guys. He was there a lot. He directed one of these movies for Dan. I think it was called Chad's World or something else. And it was so bad, it was like, you ever watch bad porn acting? This was shot, bad porn, most of it's pretty fucking bad, first of all. But you ever know it's like they're really trying to be serious but it's really bad.

That's, that's the vibe on all these shoots. Really bad. Really bad. Really, with like 14-year-old kids as a stars. And they they they they they they they they they they they they they they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they actually they they actually they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that that that that. that that. that. that. that that. that. that. a star and they actually shot it at the mansion that they were renting. I mean they didn't even shoot at it like us. You know, I mean sure they went to a studio but they also shot it at their mansion up and up in Encino which was I think Shug Knight's former mansion. So and what what what happened was the kid that started in this movie being directed by Randall Kleiser, a one-time famous, huge, successful director, was being raped the entire time by Mark Collins Rector. Now if you're a professional director, wouldn't you pick up on a 14-year-old kid

who's being traumatized and viciously raped on the set of a movie on a daily basis? Wouldn't you get a hint of that? I just, it makes my blood boil. It makes my blood boil. I mean, how many times has Singer fucked up a movie and still got more? That lets you know there's something dark at work. When you fuck up, usual suspects, Superman, uh, X-Men, I mean, and now this, uh, be, uh, be a, be, uh, be a, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, I, I, I, I, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I, I th, I, I th, I th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I th, it, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, it's, I th, it's, I th, I th, it's, it, X-Men, I mean, and now this Bohemian Rhapsody, and you don't show up four different major movies, he hasn't shown up, he's completely shish-kabopped. Completely.

I mean, think about Superman. I mean, I think the guy that they chose for that, I mean, is his career over? I mean, I think that was Kevin Spacey and Brian Singer. I mean, the background stories of Superman, I mean, that was such a terrible movie. But imagine that just the craziness that went on, on that set. It must be astounding. When you put those two sexual predators together. I mean look at Kevin Space, the guy is off the charts. He's like a vicious shark predator when it's probably one of the worst sexual predators in the history of Hollywood. And you still have, even like two weeks ago, you have Dame Judy Jentsch, who's nominated

for who knows how many, you know, films, saying she would work with Kevin again and he's her friend. And Robin Wright, House of Cards saying he's a good guy and I think it's time for him to come back to Hollywood. I mean, if people are insane. These people are nuts and they're all virtue signaling, letting everybody know they'll still play ball. There's a couple people in the comedy world, I'm not gonna get in their names,

but I'd never work with them. I'm gonna have a talk with them. I'm gonna have a talk with one guy when I see him about how I've heard a bunch of stuff. And if it's true, I'm true, I, I, I, I, I, it's th, I, it's th, I, I, it's th, I, I, it's th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it's th, I, I, I'm, th, th, th, th. It's th. th. th. thi, the the thi, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the coo, the coo, the coo, the coo, the coo, the coo, the coo, the comedy, the comedy, the comedy, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho. tho. tho. thoo. thoooo. tho, their, their, their, their, I'm gonna beat his ass down, I'm gonna let him know that. Because I can't sit around here like this stuff no more. And I just can't- He's very disappointed with Louis CK. It's from my hometown. I was a big fan and just weird about that. You kind of lose respect to the guy.

Yeah, it's a broken heart. I thought he was funny. And he not for permission But but but but but but but I'm not here to fucking defend Lucy I've defended on Twitter. I will not put him in with with Harvey Weinstein when they equate to two, I go nuts on people. Even with Bill Cosby and Harvey, that's, there's a whole different fucking thing between doing what Harvey did and literally drugging someone and they're unconscious. I think that's a big difference.

Hold on. So you're, you think that Harvey Weinstein is a little lower than, than Bill Cosby? Well you don't know everything it came out about Harvey Weinstein. Well what's up? Well he's not in jail. He's been implicated in a well dude that just because you do we just talk about this. Yeah but no one's been in that's nothing I was going to say no one's been in jail for hashtag me too. So even then if it was a hashtag well he's easy he's being held a It's insanity. I mean, if you watch Making of Murder, the corruption is so high up. I mean, these people get put into positions if they,

and it's at every level. I mean, look at Debbie Wasserman Schultz trial. And the Juan brothers, her IT people, the prosecutor in that case is her brother. I mean, it's so, the corruption is so fucking deep, man. This isn't like a 60-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-s-s-s, th-s, th-init-a-init-a-inat-inat-inat-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in'-in. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi-in. thi-in. thi-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in. th-in-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- is-a-a- is- is-a-a- is-a- is-a- is- is- is-a- is- is the corruption is so fucking deep, man. This isn't like a two year game. This is like a 60, 70 year fucking game. I used to work at a retail store.

I couldn't even check out my own family member because they didn't trust me, but yet she has a brother in the, in the, which the fact that anybody let that fly is it let you know how deep it is. These judges are in on it too. So when Harvey Weinstein's getting shit dismissed, I go look at that judge. Who's he's been hanging out with? You know, I mean I want to get this Brock Lesner. I mean this Brock Lezner. Brock Pierce, right? Where is this info right here? I have it. Hold on one second. Ah, Brock Pierce. Here we go. I mean, dude. This guy is such. I mean, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's, this guy is such, I mean like he's part of the Clintons, he came up, he's part of their initiative, and then word got out, he got in trouble, he like escaped somewhere, right? Like they all escape the Europe.

He's going to go right now, is the last we heard, online, I mean, he does not seem, he does not seem there. He seems like he's under the influence of something, you know. It's bizarre. And he's supposed to be one of these leading people in Bitcoin, and it's weird. It's crazy. I don't know how, you know, I'm not a Wall Street guy, my partner is surprised to see if that continues for him. But I will tell you, Brock Pierce is allegedly a millionaire and very successful and rich

and doing really well on this Bitcoin stuff. And it's weird. And just, and just they kicked the can down the line. He became chairman of the board of Bitcoin Foundation, a member of the Clinton Global Initiative. If you actually went through and saw how many people, Laura Sillsby, worked for the Clintons, it is unbelievable. Here's how bad it is. Laura Sillsby got convicted of child sex trafficking. Her lawyer, a representative got convicted of child sex trafficking.

A guy that she worked with who went to jail in Haiti just got convicted again in Florida. I mean, it's so deep and nobody talks about it. Yeah, that Haiti connection is really awful and that's, it's terrible. And I think that's why we have Trump now because Hillary Clinton was never gonna get above 46% even with everyone that loves her voting for her. So, it was a dream making for Trump. I saw Trump

being elected a long time ago. I mean I live up in, I mean I work in Boston but I live in southern Maine, New Hampshire. It was always Trump signs nine to one even in the most democratic places. Because you know people up here are pretty independent and I think they were sick of the Clintons just like you know people were sick of the Bushes. And there's a lot of con-the. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I th.they were sick of the Clintons, just like, you know, people were sick of the bushes. And there's a lot of connections there with the Clintons. If you look at some of the, I mean, Clinton and Harvey Weinstein, I mean, she didn't know what a scumbag predator Harvey Weinstein was and how much money he fed into her coppers. Dude, how many times did she fly out there and take pictures with them. Everybody's doing jokes about it. Seth McFarland, when he hosted shows, would rip him new assholes. Family guy, you name it.

I think South Park did jokes about like Stephen Spielberg. Nobody talks about that guy, you know? I don't need, I mean, like, dude, I can't go see movie. I want to see Ready Player One. I can't go see it. Why not? I haven't seen it. Because it. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't. I have. I have. I the the. I the. I the. I th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I the show. I the show. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the show. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the show. I the show. I the show. I the show. I the show. I the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. th. S. S. S. amazing. I can't go see it. Why not? I haven't seen it. I haven't heard about it. Oh, okay, okay. That whole DreamWorks crew? Who runs Dreamworks? Who runs it?

Like, what's the name of that? That one, Giffin Spielberg and Katzenberg. Katsunberg, and then there's the one, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the famous, who's the, who's, who's the, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's the, who's the, who's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, who's, who's, who's, who's the famous record exact? You talked about him in your movie that gave money to it. That's a famous guy that's brutal, they say. Oh God, yeah. He's, he's, uh, he's put a lot of people away in terms of killing stories. He, he killed one of the stories in our film that basically the den investigation was based on an article that was supposed to come out in details magazine in the year 2000. What's his name again? What's his name? It was called it was written by John Connolly and he would he had written an article about who who is it about what's it? Right? Who? I don't know you

you bust I can't hear you I don't know why. Oh, I said the Digital Entertainment Network. Okay. Did you hear that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go on. Sorry, sorry. That's what the article was about. And it was supposed to come out in details. And then details killed it.

So we use that as a big basis of our documentary. And when details told John why they killed. thied. thied. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. tho. tho. tho. tho. toe. that. that. toe. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. toe. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. told. told. told. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. to. to. toe. to. to. to. to. they said they killed it because if we run this, we'll never get anyone to be on our cover again. So that's why that issue was killed. And then you saw the same thing with Ronan Farrow having trouble getting out to Harvey Weinstein stuff. He was at NBC. He's well known, he's a celebrity. He's on the inside. Everybody loves them and even NBC wouldn't publish that, right? And now what we've been working on and partnering with is an article on Brian Singer that's supposed

to be coming out in Esquire magazine. And if you look at what Brian Singer said on October 15th, he said, I know Esquire's doing an article on me, I know what says bad things about me, it's, you know, it's not true, I will deal with it later. This is how sophisticated they are. Esquire never told us when they were going to publish this article, but now it appeared like he had that article killed because it didn't come out in October. But it was never scheduled to come out in October in the first place. But that's the level of PR sophistication that we're dealing with. Have you heard anything on David Gethen????? then? theeeeeckckckck. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. That's th. that's th. th. the. the. theateateateatease. theateatease. theatea. I thea. I theeeeeeea. I that's a that's that's that's that's that's that we're dealing with. Have you heard anything on David Gethin? Pardon me? David Gethin? I've heard... I think David Giffin is very

close friends with Brian Singer and I think that he looks out for Brian Singer and supports him for sure. I think he's fan playing. Yeah I've heard stories allegedly everything on this podcast is allegedly but I I have my suspicions. I've heard brutal stories about that guy, I've heard stories allegedly, everything on this podcast is allegedly, but I have my suspicions. I've heard brutal stories about that guy, about doing tours through campuses and kids show up, and then they don't, they're never seen again. And then there's a famous story about a bunch of famous politicians and a very, very powerful actor that everybody thinks is the nicest guy in the world on a very famous ship he says going to a very interesting island that he doesn't talk about. Well what I can say about David Geffen is in the Den case three

kids brought a suit against Den that that was one and guys like Mark Collins Rector and Brock Pierce, and Chad Shackley, they ran to Spain where they were eventually arrested, I believe near Marbella, Spain, and there was child form caught in that house. That was in 2002, right? They got extradited, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And, but one of the kids that brought the suit was a kid named Alex Burton. Okay, and Alex Burton played Pyro in the first X-Men movie. And I'm not really a comic book guy, but what everyone tells me is that Pyro really didn't fit into that movie. And he has one very small, 20-second scene where he just sort of opens his hand and fire comes out. And that's really Alex Burton's only credit, right? And then if you look through the Den trial cases, and this is all public record, you can

find it. It says, Alex Burton says to all these guys when they were taking off the Spain, he says, I'm going to David Geffen's house. You can find me there if you need me, right? Basically saying, Mark Collins' record thought David Geffen might try to kill him. And I've heard that. I've heard that. Yeah.

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Let me, let me put that in a small, quick summary for you. So his name was Michael Egan. He was one of the three along with Alex Burton that it originally brought that lawsuit against Den. Now 16 years later, no 14 years later in 2014, this attorney Jeff, I can't believe I forget his name, Jeff something, Herman, was able to refile charges under a statute of limitations rule in Hawaii. And he filed charges against Brian Singer, against Gary Goddard, Garthantseer and a guy named David Newman. Now Garthantseer was a big exact who ran like A.B. like Disney TV and I think David Newman was a big TV exec as well. Gary Goddard did some movies close friend of Brian Singer and is recently fled Hollywood

because he's been accused by so many people, and Brian Singer. Now, so what happened was Ansear and Newman countersued for defamation and Egan, his Herman, basically, it wasn't Egan, it was Herman, his own lawyer that just kind of left them hanging. Right? So Egan had to drop those cases. Egan never apologized. Herman did.

Because it was found that Herman didn't have enough evidence to bring charges against those guys. But here's the funny thing. Gary Goddard and Brian Singer never sued Michael Egan for defamation. And if they didn't molest him, they have the money to clearly bury that kid. And they never did. And now here's what Jeff Herman did get from Michael Egan. Michael Egan was offered $100,000 to settle.

This is all in a New York vulture magazine, you know, New York magazine article also on their vulture online. Michael turned down the $100, $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $, you know, New York magazine article also in their vulture online. Michael turned down the $100,000 because he also knew that Herman had received other settlements we believe totaling up to $20 million for three to four other, we think, alleged victims of Brian Singer. Okay. So we believe that there might be other settlements out there that Brian Singer paid, and he did a deal with Herman's lawyers, did a deal with Singer's lawyers in Malibu at this time. And Michael Legan said, oh, you just used me as like a setup to go fishing to bring in these other victims. Those other victims got bigger deals.

Now you want me to take $100,000 and shut up. And no, I'm in this to bring out the truth. Now, what is true about Michael Egan is, he did get convicted for parod in an unrelated case because, you know, just because you're a victim of sexual abuse, a lot of these kids get screwed up and for sure, dude. For sure. And I used to mock that stuff too. So he's in, I don't know if he's still in jail, but he went to jail for an unrelated

fraud case. Has he been caught lying? Yes, he has. I will say, yeah, he has caught lying. Does that reflect poorly on his character? Of course it does. And I think you, the audience, have to decide for yourself whether you believe him or not.

But I think the fact that he was offered a settlement from Brian Singer, and that he was never sued by Singer or Goddard speaks to exactly the truth of what happened to death. I think it works in his favor. There is a really the hit behind him and he can bring back. He never lost his right to sue. He can still sue Brian Singer. So if these current cases against Brian Singer turn out to be true and Brian Singer has to pay these people and if if there are other settlements out there that become exposed, Michael Egan might have his day in court just yet. It might be a great story for him.

Let me ask you two more questions and then we'll wrap it up here. There was a moment in the movie that I felt was very, very telling about what goes on in Hollywood. And that was when all these stories started coming out. People pushed, well, the LAPD or the West Hollywood Sheriff Department or one of those law enforcement asked if anybody had any more information on victims to come forward, someone brought to the board of SAG, okay? And one of the guys who helped found, I believe, SAG, or the department that deals with

children of SAG said pushback, we should not get involved. Can you talk a little bit about, because, again, it goes to where the corruption, it goes to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, if thi, if thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, if thi, if thi, if anybody, if anybody, if anybody, if anybody, if any, if any, if anybody, thi, if thi, if thi, if thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, thi, thi.a, thi.a, they.a, thi, thi, they, the department that deals with children of SAG said pushback we should not get involved. Can you talk a little bit about them? Because again it goes to where the corruption it's everywhere. You know they got people in places to nip stuff so nothing happens. That guy's name is Michael Harrah who I believe may be related to the Hara Casino family. I'm not sure but I've heard that but don't take my word for it. Anyways, he was one of these first child managers, starting in the 70s in Hollywood. He's managed a lot of really famous kids.

He's best friends with a lot of these convicted pedophiles, a guy named Bob Villard who also managed Leo DiCaprio and Toby McGuire when they were 12, 13, 14. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, so. So, so. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. thi. to. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th when they were 12, 13, 14. Okay. So, this guy, Michael Harrah, started what was called the Young Performers' Child or the Young Actors Child Performers Committee or something like that at SAG, just for young actors. And when this Bob Valard character, who everyone knew Harrow was friends with and was very popular, was convicted of pedophilia and sent to prison in the, I believe, in like the early 2000s.

LAPD came to this meeting and said, hey, tell the parents if this guy is a convicted pedophile and if there's any other stories out there, we want to know. And Michael Harra killed it. He said, no, we're not going to do that. It's only that. It's only th th th that. It's only tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. It's tho. It's tho. I's tho. I's tho. I's tho. I's tho. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm thi. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. to. to. th. to. to. And, to. And, th. And, to. And, to. And, th. And, to. And, th. And, to. And, to. And, the the the the the the the to know. And Michael Harrah killed it. He said, no, we're not going to do that. It's only going to further traumatize people. And SAG doesn't get involved. Now, later, we get, we basically get, if you've seen the film, so you know, we get a confession from Michael Hara on live video, right? We get a confession, basically saying he acted inappropriately with one of his kids. And then we get another astounding interview taken at SAG headquarters over it on Wilshire, where again it comes across that he's clearly most likely a pedophon. And in coping us, and instead of bringing this issue out to the public, SAG's president,

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Have you ever been like physically threatened or anything crazy like that? No, no, I've never been physically threatened. That's not really how these guys work. What's, no, yeah. But they will try, what they will try and do is they'll make claims that you're a homophobe or that you have some other reason to do this. Homophobia is their biggest attack early on. Well, you guys do a great job of addressing that in the movie. You guys talk about how, you know, kind of like how we talked about Jewish and Hollywood aren't the same thing. You guys kind of talked about how gay and pedophilia aren't the same thing. There are plenty gay men who aren't into this thing. It's a particular group and it's not even being gay.

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And it's happened so much. Why would parents put their kids in these positions? What is your opinion on that? Like you hear stories of kids, people sending their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their kids their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thaks, thugs, thugs, thiads, thinks, thiads, thiaqaqaqics, th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thiates, thiates, thiates, thiates, thi. These, thi. These, thics, thics, thics, thics, thics, thics, thaks, their, their, their, their, their, their, in these positions. What is your opinion on that? Like you hear stories of people sending their kids the Hollywood, the deninitigaties. Yeah, I'm an American first. So I mean, I think people can make up their own minds and I hate to tell people what to do,

but my personal opinion is children shouldn't be allowed to act in Hollywood. It's almost like we should have an 18-year-old acting as a six-year-old. You know, something crazy like that. Sort of like how England back in the day didn't allow women so men would act like women. I wish we didn't even have kids in the shows because I don't think we'd need them. I know that sound, but I'm not into censorship, so I personally don't, I choose not to work with children, if I can, I recommend people don't. A lot of families I advise, I tell them not to have their kids go. I had an interesting email exchange with Chris Evans' mother, because he's a, he's a Massachusetts native, and she ran a child's theater here.

And she was saying, you know, she purposely protected Chris when he was the young child and kept him in local theater before he went out to Hollywood. And that's what you hear. And I don't like to put all the blame on the parents. A lot of these parents are just naive, but there are definitely some sick parents out there that use their kids in their their their their their their their their their their their their kids in their kids in their kids in their kids in their kids in the the their kids in the their kids in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And shea. And shea. And shea. And shea. And their. And thiia. And here. And thia. And the. And the. And, th... And, th.. And, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, te. And, te. And, te. And, tea. And, tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. the parents. A lot of these parents are just naive, but there are definitely some sick parents out there that use their kids in the wrong way. But most of them are just very trusting parents. And these guys are really professional at grooming. Their level of grooming is intense. It's like Soviet KGB spy type of grooming. They know how to pull people out. they know who to target, they know how to push the boundary so slowly, they're working multiple kids, tens, scores of kids at once, and they entice

them slowly over time and know how to push boundaries. So it's not like the parents are idiots that we sometimes people would like to make them out to be. This is a really highly sophisticated operation by guys that are just, this is an addictive mental disease. They're akin to serial killers, but a lot smarter. That's what I think. I think serial killers are almost dumb child molesters.

I think child is smart. So why isn't this on YouTube? Well, it's on Vimeo. It's not on YouTube because Gabe is our owner. So Vimeo, we can kind of control it and we have the high quality version. It's free on Vimeo. But if you put it on YouTube, then it just gets copied and lower qualities keep getting out there. So we want people to see it in the higher quality and the correct version. There's a couple different pirated versions out there.

I think Gabe at this point is, you know, he's not looking to make money on this. So we could easily put this on, I've been trying to convince him to put it on an aggregator. So it shows up on Netflix and Hulu and Amazon. But I think he feels like that might make people think we're think think think think we set out to do this, our original goal was any profits were going to go to a foundation anyways. So any profits from this movie 100% go to charity for kids who are victims of sexual abuse. So I'm hoping that the financial plan changes on that soon, but that's really, Gabe's the sole owner, so he makes that decision. But what I I I I I I I I I I I I that that that that that thiiiiii that that that that that thiole that that that thiole. that that decision. But what I can tell people is we have another interview that's coming out soon.

It's almost like an open secret part two, where we shot it last December. We're editing it now, and it's with one of Brian's boyfriends, who sort of was a young, young male living with Brian during all of this. Actually, during the time that our documentary came out. And it's gonna be pretty intense. We're waiting for the Esquire article to release first, because we feel like our information will be taken more seriously if other third party information talks about this, and then we can release further information in support of that. So once the Esquire article comes out, you'll see us come out with this video

that's going to even blow up Brian Singer's world far more than it has been yet. And it really shows the connections of what's going on in all this. Is it like a follow-up to Open Secret or just like a quick little clip? Is it like, yeah, how long is the interview? I mean the interview it was several hours so I mean we'll probably edit it down anywhere from 20 to 35 40 minutes you know and it'll really and if we throw in archival information or if we bring in a production company that wants to add more we can. You know what you're naming it? It's really gonna show it's gonna show the network and it's also to show the network.

It's also going to mention some other really big names. Oh man. I, I, you, whatever you need for me, please, you have, I will do anything to help you guys get anything out, ma'am. I am, I love what you guys do. And I have one last question. Within the world of conspiracies, I often get called a gay Jew shill. I get called that by everybody. Shill, controlled opposition. Do you guys get that at all? Do you guys get told you're part of this, you're part of that, your CIA funded? What do you? I applied as a CIA, but apparently they don't need white guys who only speak one language. I think they got enough of those dudes So I get CIA shill all the time

I it's it's hilarious seeing some of this stuff Gabe engages with it because there's become sort of a whole sub-level of people who profit off this stuff, you know They'll sell t-shirts or you know app donation and they just ramble on about ridiculous shit and they never investigate anything, they never have anything to back it up. Like, we actually hired attorneys and clearance attorneys and follow copyright laws and libel laws and defamation laws, there's a reason why we haven't been sued. And other people can go out and make wild accusations, but they won't be sued because they have no money.

So it is a little scary to me how stupid people are on Twitter and how they make these claims when they don't even know you, but when you know the truth, you know, you just laugh at it and you just ignore them. I welcome anyone who wants to bring truth into this. We've been waiting for help for years and hopefully like this Esquire article will finally be some relief for us because this is not like our full-time jobs and we never thought that this would be such a part of our lives as it had, but we don't quit and we know that this is right and we know it's a good, it's doing some good in the world. So we're just trying to pass the baton to the media.

We want the media to pick up the ball. I just don't know if they ever will, but we're grateful for people like you guys who do, because that's where I think the media is now. It shows exactly like this. And that's where people are getting it, you know. I mean, Brian Williams is not breaking any news on pedophilia in Hollywood. Well, he's a liar anyway, so who gives a fuck about that, dude? My girlfriend can't stop watching him. It drives me nuts. I come, I'm gonna break the television one day. He is Matthew Venetanis. Thank you so much for coming on, dude. Uh, is The Open Secret and we're so thankful that you came on. Everybody go, Vimo, go check, uh, Venmo and go check it out. And thank you, dude. I really appreciate it, man. It was a great interview and I really, you're really laying yourself on the line for people who can't defend defend themselves and the most defenseless of every everybody are the children are the children you know foster kids all these kids you know kids that

just disappear and you know you're doing a great job and I really appreciate the hard work and for a CIA shill man I got to tell you that right now and that's from a gay Jew shill, okay? So I appreciate everything you've done. Matthew, thank you for coming on. And please, when that article comes back, please come on again so we can promote it for you, all right? All right, thanks a lot again, thanks a lot a today, all right? All right, buddy, Urge.

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