Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #143: The Tin Foil Ripple Farm Report Swapcast With James Corbett

Episode Date: November 23, 2018

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of the Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli podcast. This episode I was pleased to be apart of an amazing swap cast with James Corbett, Pat Miletech, Jeffery Wilson and Ricky Varandas! This episode was amazing and informative. Huge thank you to Ricky Varandas for putting this whole thing together. Happy Thanksgiving and thank you for all of your support!

I believe in the ripple fence What's up? Another episode of Real Perfect podcast. I'm your host, Ricardo Verandis, also known as Ricky Verandes. We have an amazing, amazing show. As I always try to do is bring some really interesting guests and some really interesting ideas and topics. And recently I've been trying to do more of you know probably within the last year or two to try to do more of bringing not just one or two interesting guests but maybe do a roundtable discussion and today we

had amazing show with people from three of my favorite podcast Sam Tripoli from Tinfoil Hat Podcasts James Corbett from the Corbett report, and Pat Militich and Jeffrey Wilson from the conspiracy farm. And all these guys have been on the podcast before. Sam has been on before once. Jeff and Pat have been on before once, and James have been on a whole bunch of times. And was actually, I don't know, probably five years ago, one of the first real big, well-known guests that I had on the shows. And since then we've always stayed in contact and had tons of amazing shows talking about everything from his new documentaries that have come out throughout the years and many other things that are happening in the world. So definitely go in the archives, check that stuff out. I won't take up too much

of your time because this was such amazing conversation. I want to let you guys just jump right into it and enjoy it. But remember to support our guests' work. I think most of everybody, including myself, have a Patreon page, support people. It makes it a little easier to help keep us going and to help finance what in many cases, at least personally in my case, has become an awful investment because it consumes more money than it makes. And I've never really been in the positive. But that's not the point. I mean, in my work, James's work, and I'm sure Jeff and Pat and Sam, we're all about spreading this information. That's why my work is open source. James' work is open source. So please, tweet this stuff, share it on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, whatever social media you use, please share these podcasts,

share these conversations. I think it's super important and you never know who's listening, who's going to run into our shows, this discussion, and maybe maybe change the way they look at things and maybe hopefully help them get down a rabbit hole of discovering a different way of looking at things and some historical facts and information they might not be aware of and go down that rabbit hole like we all have at one time. So thanks again guys, support the show, share it like I mentioned and I'll see you guys on the next one let's get right at it. Yeah, well that's yeah, I don't know why.

Yeah, well, that's yeah, I don't know why I've never done more than than four guys I have to be honest. So this is what she said. Yeah, well, that's yeah, I don't know why. I've never done more than four guys, I have to be honest. So this is what she said. Oh, we're starting off right off the bat, Jeff. Yeah, I knew it was just a matter of time before a couple of dick jokes or something. So this might go off the rails quickly. Deak jokes have my friend butter.

Well, well anyways, while I'm trying to figure out how to throw myself on the screen, I want to thank you guys for being on, I really, really appreciate it. As you guys know, I'm a huge fan of all your work because that's why you guys have been on show in the past and I don't have anybody on who I'm not a fan of. And we're all trying to do the we think there's not enough attention on and no better way than getting all of us together to help do that but also I think one thing that's I think we'll make for a very interesting conversation is the fact that we all have so much in common when it comes down to our curiosity and our interests but yeah we come from very different background so I think you talking about topics that we're all into and intrigued with, it'd be awesome to just

see what everybody's perspective is based on this. Pat's never not working. He's a... Well, he's a... He's a scape selfie. I've never seen that before. But, you know, posted out there. Well, unfortunately, I think today it's, uh, it But, you know, posted out there. Well, unfortunately, I think today it's, you know, quantity over quality.

I think people who are super active, even if it's not quality work, those are people who get attention. But hopefully we can, we can spark a really good conversation. One thing that I, we briefly talked about James's great work and I mentioned it on one of our previous emails. I think World War I is definitely one of those topics people don't know enough about and I love the fact that you spend some time to do a documentary on it because I mean I've, I've done a lot of World War I research and there's so much stuff that I had no idea about in your, well up to part two which came out previously. And you know I've watched you know Promises and Betrails, blood and oil, or I think that's

what it's called. There's a couple really good documentaries and not even those scratch the surface compared to what your work has done. And you know, and that's kind of what we've come to know from James Corbett and the Corby report is that you really do thorough research and we can always count on this amazing work when it does come out. And so thanks again, James for doing that for everybody.

If you haven't checked it out, please check it out. It's on his website.that's the other thing too, is that a lot of people, you know, James was just a teacher at one point and then decided to do this alternative media. And now, you know, he's been lucky enough to do this for a living. And it's because of the support. And he puts all of stuff out there for free. So I know it's, and we live in a world where it's really really, to consume free content because there's so much of it and not support. But if we love the work that they're putting out there, we have to remember that the way we continue getting that work is supporting them. So that's super important too. I think James has a brand of excellence that within the community is the gold standard. I think everybody kind of looks to his work and realize. And and an and an and an and an and an the the their their their their their their their to to to their to to to their to to their to to to to to to to to to to support to support to support to within the community is the gold standard. I think everybody kind of looks to his work and realizes that this is probably the mostly

shit you're ever going to get and there's a lot of respect in that. I, you know, I learned a lot about Hitler from James's videos, you know, for me it's like was wide open and, you know, and for me in my podcast, I don't, I'm not even going to pretend that I'm in like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th like, like, like, like, like, like, like, know, for me it's like it was wide open and you know and for me in my podcast I don't I'm not even going to pretend that I'm in like a realm with what James is doing because I'm kind of trying to get people to be like the training wheels or kind of the like you know conspiracy for dummies and that you know give it a little bit of information and hopefully they'll go out there and and I you know I tell them them them go go go go go the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.. th. th.. th. th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the to. to. to. to. to. to to to me me to to the the the the toe. the the the the the the the the the the the. they'll go out there. And I tell them to go listen to like people like conspiracy farms, the higher side chats, the Cobair report, you know. I think that he's, I think what James does and what we all do is very, very important and

that we're fighting against billions of dollars that are spent to basically brainwash these people. And, you know, I live in LA, which is the heart of a lot of this stuff, the brainwashing and all that. And with these fires that we've seen, like, these are some dark arts fires. I don't care what anybody says. And you look at like the burn patterns and it just doesn't make any sense. And here we go again. The conspiracists are being demonized, just like the the shootings and the 9-11 and then Vegas and all that stuff.

And you know, it's people like James. And you know, it's conspiracy farms get something really amazing, I guess on. And it's just, I just, you know, I just really thankful to be on this call. And I'm really enjoying what everybody's doing who are involved in this podcast right now. I'd love for James and I know he's going to, you know, the third war one stuff has always fascinated me and I'd love for, you know, obviously, can't go over everything here, but you know, for the for the dummies, the bullet points, you know, and because this stuff is, stuff is so important for people to learn history, you know, about about those wars, how

they were how they were started, fomented. It's super super important. It's incredibly important and I'm glad to see that a lot of people have resonated with this. I truly wasn't expecting people to be interested in this at all. I'll let you guys in on a little secret just between us for and anyone who happens to be listening in. This is part of a larger documentary project that I'm working on. The World War I conspiracy is only the first part of it. So I was expecting until this whole project is finished.

I wouldn't think people would even kind of get what's going on. But I'm glad a lot of people have resonated with it, and I'm glad to hear that this has provided a lot of information for people that they haven't heard of, but for me, from my perspective, my nightmare is trying to compile thousands of pages of research down into, here's a half hour on this other five years. It's horrible, it's nightmarish for me, because I'm just just a th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to th, th, to to to to to to to to tho, and I tho, and I tho, and I tho, and I is thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and I'm tho, and I'm thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaa..auuuiiiiiii.eou-aui. toooooooooo, and I's a half hour on this other five years. It's horrible, it's nightmarit for me because I'm just sitting here, how do I do this? So I'm glad to hear that, but if people are interested in this, they really should start delving into the

sources where there are literally hundreds and hundreds of pages of documentation on just that first part, that first half hour of the documentary, you can find in books like hidden history by Dock-in....that has so much more detail to it. But the long story short, I guess, is coming from sources like this, the Anglo-American establishment by Carol Quigley, where he talked about the formation of a secret society in the late 1890s. It started to come together in the 1880s, but really formalized in some form in the 1890s. And it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiol-s. But, the long th. But, but tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' th. But th. But th. But th. But the long the long the long the long the long the long the long the long the long th. But th. But th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. to' to' to' to' to' to' to' to to' to' to' to' to' to' to' to' to' to' to' t It started to come together in the 1880s, but really formalized in some form in the 1890s. And it's a secret society, but we know about it. It's not a conspiracy theory. We know that this is true because one of the inside people in that conspiracy blew the whistle essentially. William T. Stead, he was this journalist who was quite influential at the time. And after Cecil B. Rhodes's death. the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th. It th. It th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It, th. It, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the. And, the. And, the. And, the.e.e.e.e. And, the.e.e.e. And, the.e. And, they. And, the the. influential at the time. And after Cecil B. Rhodes' death in 1902, he blew the whistle essentially, he published

the last will and testament, which everyone thinks, oh, you know, Cecil Rhodes' last will in testament was establishing the Rhodes' scholarship. Yeah, that was his seventh will. The first six were all about this secret society that he wanted to found to spread the British Empire around the world and, you know, unite the world under the English race, basically. And so he published all of this. As I point out in the documentary, it was even published in New York Times and everything. Here was Cecil Rhodes's secret society that he founded.

And Cecil Rhodes's this is going to be a secret society organized like the Jesuits. This kind of illuminati-ish thing with this inner circle, the secret society of the elect, and then there was going to be an outer circle that didn't even know of the inner circle's existence and all of this. And he wanted all of these different titles and everything. But the people he brought in to that conspiracy, like Alfred Milner, who the hell was Alfred Milner. You never get taught him in the history books these days, but he was extremely influential. And he was the one who basically started to organize this into something practical.

It's like, oh yeah, all that hoodoo, you know, focus, pocus nonsense about secret societies. Let's make this something real. And he started really forming what was called Milner's kindergarten in South Africa of this group of young men that went on to hold all sorts of important posts in government and outside of government in private industry as well that basically formed this clique that could be drawn on to essentially operate what was the longer term game plan, which in that first decade of the 20th century became, let's go to war with Germany. And that's what it all became about and they used every single lever of power that they had in government and outside of government to make that happen. Speak to that James, why was Germany such a

threat? I mean I realized once they became independent 1871 that was just that went straight against what those guys Milner and those guys were trying to do why why was Germany such a threat? Well it's analogous and this is actually what got me starting along these lines and why I started thinking about World War I was because it is analogous to our situation today which is we have the World Empire which in this case is the US and we have the rising empire threat which is China and the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. I thi. I thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I th. I I th. th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the th. I'm the the the. I'm the. the. I'm the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the. the. th which in this case is the US, and we have the rising empire threat, which is China. And we see a lot of parallels going on. At that time in early 20th century, it was the world empire was Britain and the rising Upstart was Germany and they had to be defeated. They had to be put down and that was I mean, that wasn't anything new to that era of history. their entire strategy had thrown to th th th th th th th th th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea thea thea thea thea the thea thea thea thea thea thea thea the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea thea thea thea thea thea thea. thea. thea toea toea. toea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea, Britain had always done that throughout history. Their entire strategy had always been to support the second strongest European continental power against the strongest, so that there would never be one that would rise up and would

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But that's really happening. But if you don't see the 3D picture of it, you don't really understand it. So in this case, in the China-US case, the point that I always make is that China didn't just become this big emerging power, they were fostered into this power by the very same people who are also puppeteering the US government and steering its foreign policies. How does this happen? Well, it's because it's part of a larger plan, ultimately to get the world under a collectivist system, globalism, essentially. Which is just so frustrating because nobody, nobody gets that, you. I mean, obviously, it's a chess not checkers. You know, this, this, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their. their. their. their. the. the, the, the, the. the. the, the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. You're I mean obviously conspiracy theor is obviously this is chest not checkers you know this this you know people who talk against. People exactly people who talk against

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pagans. There's you know I did a whole episode with this guy who's like really you know an expert in the Bible and he broke down that there's a lot of like old scripture where it's like the lost tribes which is Britain and the United States with Israel versus the pagans which is going to be led by Germany. Is that have anything to play in or is that just, you know, smoke screen stuff? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

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Yeah, I don't, that's a bit out of my area of expertise, but what I can talk about is the Zionist movement, forming in the late 19 the Rothschild family, which of course was in a position of prominence in the early 20th century in Britain financially, and was trying to convert that into geopolitical power, and did so through, as we know, the Balfour declaration came out in 1917. That was a letter from Arthur Belfour to Lord Rothschild saying, hey, you know, when this is all over, we're going to give you Palestine essentially as part of your Zionist dream of creating the homeland for the Jews.

And that was, I mean, pretty interesting because, well, Britain didn't control Palestine at that point. What's going on, Pat? Do you also have the mute button on? Pat, you have the mute button on? Pat, you have the mute button. We can't hear you. Here we go. Can you hear me?

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from Arthur Belfour to Lord Rothschild. It actually started as notes that Rochilde, the the note, over to Belfor and Milner and they took those notes and worked with them and made a letter to present back to Lord Rothchild. So that's, I mean, that's the interesting part of it and shows who was really in control of that relationship. And while we're picking, while we're picking your brain, James, I'd like to ask you what your thoughts are on the supposed Albert Pike 1871 letter to Mazzini. I mean, I've thi th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu thu thu thu thu thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, thi, thi, thee thee thee thee thee, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thrown thrown that that that that that that that that thrown that that that that that that, that, that, I've known about that letter for quite a number of years. Whether it's factual, whether it was written by Albert Pike or not, I don't really care at this point because, well, I mean, it's at least prophetic in what's happening now. And the letter I know was appeared many, many years ago, but whether it was written by Albert Pike, no. Have you ever seen it? I certainly the the, I thi. th. th. th. th. thi? thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the thi, the the the the th, thi, thi, thi, their it's, their it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's thi. Whether it's thi. Whether it's thi. Whether it's thi. Whether it's, thi. Whether it's, the letter I know was appeared many, many years ago, but whether it was written

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certainly as it said, a cataclysmic event, right? Absolutely, yes. James, in your research, does Black Nobility come in at all? I've started to do some research on them in their roles, you know, as Jeffrey said before to me, that, you, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tham, tham, tham, thi, thi, to to to to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to say, to say, to say, to say, to, and as Jeffrey said before to me, that, you know, they make the Rothschilds look like accountants or secretaries. I feel like nobody really knows about Black nobility in almost this point where I sometimes begin to think that the Rothschilds are almost used as like a boogieman type group, you know, like Russia kicks out the

Rothschild, but they're still part of the Bank of International Settlements, which is that runs all the centralized banks. So like what is, is there a power structure that goes beyond the Rothschilds and that, whether it's Black Nobility, the Black Pope, the Royal Family of England, it goes even deeper than that? A couple of things to say. First of all, I don't believe in the monolithic conspiracy that there is one one group or one family or one name or whatever that controls everything. I think that's a little too simplistic. Secondly, yeah, for people who are really in positions of real power and influence, if we know their name, they're probably not at the top of that ladder. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, for people, th th th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. tho, tho, their their their name, they're probably not at the top of that ladder. So, you know, you know, you know, their name. Exactly, and it becomes that thing where, well, of course, we, there's no way we can really ascend to the top of that unless, you know, some

whistleblower comes out, but I think that distracts, my point is it always comes back to that distracts us from the real point of this, which is that, yes, power is wielded by people with money and influence and control in ways that we probably can't even fathom, and you can research your entire life and probably never get to the bottom of that. But then you've spent your entire life just trying to research what they're doing. The point is what we can do with our own power, because we do have power and influence in our own lives. And yes, we can't control everything that happens in the world, and we can't control what the big powers are going to do in warfare and what have you, but we get to choose what we invest our time and energy doing with our lives.

And that's the ultimate point of this for me, is that, yeah, you can spend your whole life trying to chop off the heads of the beast. I tend to think, even if you did find the head of that beast and chop it off, there'd be another one growing in days. I mean, the power vacuum would just be too much and the more people would be the awareness. The their beast is the more people. I think it of the beast. We are the willing participants in this system. Every time you buy one of their projects, every time you invest your time and energy in this, you are helping the beast. Silence, silence is acquiescence. Exactly. If you take yourself out of that pyramid structure, it collapses. It needs us. That's the real point of this.

The morphiest picture in the matrix of him holding up the battery saying that's basically what we are, is just energy feeding it and that's and take yourself out of that and then the machine doesn't cooperate. We have to understand it's our responsibility to do that and that's more important to me than trying to spend our entire lives finding out who's the head. So now that you framed it that that that that that that that that that that that's that's their their their their their to their to to their to to their to their to to their their to to to be their to be. their their to their their their to be. their their their to be. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. te. te. tea. tea. te. te. te. try. te. today. te. te., not spending our time going after them, but using our time constructively on what we can do to prepare, to mitigate whatever we can, the damage that's done to us personally, to our families, whatever, things like that. I say we started PayPal to purchase a missile silo in Kansas and turn it into a condo. Have you seen those? Those are so dope.

Have you guys seen those before? Well, no. Oh, no, they're straight up missile silos. They're like 15 levels and they're straight, just a triple A dude. It's like you're walking into like a Mandalay Bay Hotel. I'm series. I think we can pull it off I think we can I think we are planned damn it I think what James was saying is so important because James and I have had this conversation and similar

conversations many of times on under ripple effect podcast and you know we often emphasize the idea of trying to spark just thought and and looking at things from a different perspective and how important that is. And to quote Sam, one of my favorite quotes is, the Revolution will be podcasted. And it's a great quote because that's exactly what we're trying to do. The most dangerous people aren't people who are trying to change things with violence,

but it's people who are changing minds and and opening minds and changing perspectives because that does cause a ripple effect. And a lot of times you get people, you know, asking you, well, you know, how are you going to do to change the world? You know, well, how are you going to change things? You know, almost acting like the simple things, you know, the simple things, th....... thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's thi, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tho, thus, thi, that's thi, that's thi, that that thi, that thi, that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, that's thi, that's thi. thi. that's that's thi. that's thi. that's that's thi. thi. that's thi. think that's almost one of the most important things you could do and probably can have the biggest impact, you know, it's you can who knows how many people are going to listen to this podcast and and even if that number is small, we're going to change their minds and maybe change the way they look at things and they're going to have conversations with other people and they're going to have conversations with other people and they're going to have and it

does start this ripple effect. And you know when I started this show it was because I truly believed in this idea that we can all make a difference and I mean you look at most of us we you know besides Pat who is a legendary Hall of faamer but most of us come from pretty you know. you to to to to the their.. th. th. th. th. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. th. You. th. You. You. You. You. th. You. You. You. You know, you. You know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you know, you, we didn't, you know, we can't, we come from, you know, we weren't, you know, we weren't well known for, oh, I, you know, James and I, and, you know, at least I know our backgrounds pretty well, you know, we're basic, normal dudes who just kind of believed in, and trying to do something more, trying to do something, trying to do something, trying to do something something something something something something something something to do something more something more something more something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something more, to do something, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to do something something something something, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to do something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something, to do something, to do something, to do something, to do something, to do something, to, to, to, to, to, to, you..a, to, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to we can spread something. And so I think you know conversations like this are so important like James said we could focus so much on dissecting who's you know who's involved and connecting all the dots and all that

stuff is so important because there are stories out there that do help you put the puzzle pieces together because I do think that you know this whole life is a giant you know thought a million, a million, a million, th, th, th, has th, has th, has th, has th, has th, has th, has th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the their their their their their their their thi, their their their, you their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you their, you their their, you, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I they. I'm their their, their, their, their, the puzzle pieces together because I do think that you know this whole you know life is a giant You know thought a million Has a million puzzle pieces and we're all together trying to gather puzzle pieces And if we all help each other out we can gather enough puzzle where at the end of the road? Maybe we don't know what that image is, but we have a clear idea we have a better idea of what it might be. Or we pull a matrix and have a moment, like, there is no puzzle. Just like in the matrix, I was wondering how to bend the spoon, there is no spoon. And I agree with what you're saying, and even I'll echo the sentiments of James as well, I mean, trying

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this was prophesied. We knew that this was coming, or people well before us knew that this was coming. And, you know, so I think it's important for us to be able to at least break through on that level so that when a guy dies in Libya who was creating the gold coin to trade his oil in, when Saddam Hussein dies because Europe is going to buy his oil without the US dollar, all this sort of stuff. And so that people realize that no, we're not the fucking crazy ones here. We're not the fucking crazy ones here. We're not the we're not the lunatic. So James, if you, I'd like James to at least go through some of the points that cause World War I and stuff that people are not taught in the history books.

Well, there's a couple points I want people to take away from this documentary, one of which relates to our earlier discussion there, just the amount of propaganda that was aimed at the public to get them into hating Germans in England and in America, was phenomenal. And when you really drill down into it, that's where so much of our modern day propaganda templates come from was that First World War, where they literally created the Bureau of Propaganda and all of that. Baby's on bayonets. Exactly. Yeah, there was the the the their their their their their their their their was their their was their was such their their was such their their their their their their their their is such their is such their is so much their is so much their their the amount so much their their their their their their their their their their their propaganda. their propaganda. their propaganda. their propaganda. their propaganda. their propaganda. their. their. their. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. their their their their their their their th. their amount.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. their their their their their their the Bureau of Propaganda and all of that and the baby's on Bay and Esther been. Exactly, yeah, there was such a concerted effort and they brought so much effort to bear on convincing the public and one thing that speaks to is the fact that the public's opinion matters. They wouldn't be

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You couldn't do that in World War I. And that's obviously, there's the technological changes that made that happen, the machine gun and the flame thrower, and the airplane plane thrower and the air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air air.... the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. the air. thea. the air. theat. the air. thrown. theat-a, theatator. theatator, theat. theat. theat. the spectator. the spectator. the spectator. the spectator. the spectator........ the specta........ Ita. Ita..... Ita. Ita. Ita.. It's, thea. It's, thea. It's, thea. thea. thea. thea. theat. thea. tea. thea. thea. thea. toda. toda. toda. tha. the the the the the thea. the theathe tanks and all of the other technological gadgets. But beyond that and beyond the million casualty battles and things that were just utterly unimaginable before World War I, it was the intervention of the government in every aspect of society that would have been, if not unthinkable, at least, would not have been very popular before that World War I crisis set in. And this was not only known about and acknowledged, but openly lusted after by a lot of people in the time. And this is actually what I'm going to get into in part three, which is yet to be released

as we're recording this conversation, but I'm going to be talking about the John Doeys and the Richard T. Elies and other people like that th, th, th, th, th, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thu, th, th, th, th, th, thu. th, thu. thu. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi,wey's and the Richard T. Ely's and other people like that who were openly talking about, you know, the world will be great to foster a new sense of national, national service in society and to get people on board and to shape public perception and opinion. This is what people were lusting after for a long time and in the American context specifically you have the income tax coming in with the Federal Reserve in 1913. And that was... Under Wilson, who was brought in by Morgan, bank rolled into office by Morgan, essentially. And that was the basis through which America was able to wage and finance the First World War, finance by, you know, starting the the incredible debt

that we know where it's ended up today, but also just the idea of income tax and the government being in charge of the economy or managing the economy. A central bank, which we had been against us all. A central bank for the first time in 80 years or whatever had been at that point. So yes, it was an extremely important period for that transition into what we now expect. And it was really the precursor for the New Deal and all of that came from that world war one mentality where the government was going to take care of everything. And if we don't understand that aspect of it, then we don't really have a proper sense of history. And the fact that we that we that fact that we are living in the crater of

that explosion as I say in the opening of the World War I documentary if we don't understand that the way the world is now is not the way it has to be this isn't this isn't just you know some inevitable progress to this point this is something that happened because people I mean to echo Pat's frustration to echo Pat's frustration I mean to echo Pat's, Pat's, to echo Pat's frustration, I mean, this is World War I. I mean, fast forward, almost 100 years, the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter talking about incubators getting knocked over. You know, all of these, I mean,

it's nothing has changed. They're literally playing from the same playbook. And again, we are so willing participants of it because we're just not aware how sophisticated the propaganda is and the behind the scenes, you know, people just want that shortcut to thinking, that fast food news, like what's going on? Oh, they're bad guys okay, as opposed to like, wow, this is a chess game and you are like several steps behind. And it's just so frustrating, bro because at the end of your movie or just the thiiiii. th get in the war you saw those scenes of just guys dancing with girls in the streets just getting piled on buses and ships and they just went and died by the millions for for for bullshit Banker crazy. It's crazy and this is where this is where the you know

G. Edward Griffin's book the creature from Jekyll Island is so important for every high school student in America to read man Man I've read that thing like four times. There it is man. Ha ha ha! James! Nice. Books ever written and that's the thing is fast forward to Donald Trump whether you like it. Hold on guys, hold on let's not, let's I mean, we know what that is. Let somebody, you know, somebody fill that and what what happened to the Jekil the J J J J J Jek. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. the. the. I the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. th. th. th. t, you know, somebody filled in and what is, what happened to the Jekyll Island? That was a big deal. That's when all the bankers got together and basically wrote the Federal Reserve Act and and dupe some politicians into passing it. Wilson, Wilson won the election because they talked Roosevelt into running for a third term if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, against Tafton Wilson and he took, he, he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, uh, uh, and, uh, and, and, and, and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, he, uh, he, he, he, he, he, he, and, and, and, and, he, and, and, he, and, and, and, and, and, and, he, and, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thii. thiiiiii. thii. thii. thi Roosevelt into running for a third term if I'm not if I'm not mistaken against Taft and Wilson and he took he and that was a bankers that was a bankers to get to get Roosevelt to run again and here's the thing

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Wilson was the one that pushed for this thing, got the Federal Reserve Act passed. Well, it snuck it in in a holiday or something over Christmas. Yes, yes, over Christmas, most everybody was home. And the thing is that's about this is, you know, it gives obviously the privateers control of everything, you know, who many of whom are not even Americans control of our monetary system, which should piss every American off. But, and the reason I'm fast-forwarding right now is to make the connection for people that might not know about it, is that Trump, whether you like him or not,

on the campaign trail, spoke about getting rid of the Federal Reserve briefly. He made a couple tiny little blip mentions of it. And then he's mentioned it again, a couple of weeks ago, he talked about the Federal Reserve and I think if he's reelected which I think he will be I think in his second term he'll kill the Federal Reserve. That's that I don't know thank you. I'll be I'll bet you on that one. Let's have a little wager on that one. I'm just wanted to say something real quick I think I think he wants to be remembered for something I I think maybe he got in dude and then they're like yeah hey we'll wipe your whole family out and like he's changed a little but I

just want to say something about what James said that this isn't how it has to be when Jeffrey's like that's a hundred years ago in human time that's a like time but in like history that's just a drop in the bucket man and we are in a place where we can turn this. We, you know, I try to echo what James says. I say it poorly compared to how he says it, but we really are a very unique country, the United States. The global economy is completely built on us. And we, if we come together, we're a very powerful force. But this propaganda bill that Obama passed, which allows the government to use propaganda against us, is get us to not like each

other, to get us. Which was going on anyway, they just legalized it. Right, but this legalized it. But you know everybody wants to make chocolate Jesus as wonderful, dude. He's like he's just parted for the course man. But this isn't how it has to be. We are the more powerful to them. I mean, I mean, like, dude, we don't have to sit here and take it, but everybody thinks we have to go between these two parties. It's like running between Dahmer and O.J. Simpson. You're like, they're both gonna murder. What are we doing here? The masses just don't know. I had a conversation with Canadian journalist, Eva Bartlett, about, you know, the occupation of ISIS in Syria. It's a horror movie. People do not get waking

up to that every day having your daughter kidnapped, possibly raped, organs taken. I mean, it's, we just don't get over here how dark it is. We're in fantasy football mode and the Rams are 7-1 or whatever it is. I'm not knocking, you can do it if you want to, but to, but to, but to, but to, but to, but to, but to, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, and, and, and, and, I, I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, and, and, I, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. And, I'm, th. And, I'm, I'm, th. And, I'm, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, the, the, the whatever it is. I'm not knocking, you can do it if you want to, but please balance it out with some level of information on the world because silence is acquiescence. That's why all this stuff is so allowed to go down because we're so blissfully ignorant. We are. But Sam sounds hopeful that we can actually make a difference, that we're going to somehow bring Americans together to be able to stop this train wreck and it don't even have to be Americans that's almost part of the

problem that's why we're we're so cool with half million plus Iraqis by the way well I mean it's the human being thing man not not to go all kumbaya but that's why you know so many millions are allowed to die in Syria or be displaced or in Iraq through through sanctions that killed women, men, women and children. We always filter it through this, us versus them. We're human beings before any of that shit. That's where I want to know. Nationalism can be a little dangerous. I think it can be a little dangerous because I, it's similar the tribal conservative first liberal. It's disliking somebody, demonizing

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Boy bragado, boy bigado. But but but then framing that then framing those thoughts of of a globalist Kumbaya we know their end goals with globalism and we also know how important the United States Constitution is and how important it is to be protected against the aims of globalism and, you know, the clowered pivoting to collapsing a system financially and making us all, you know, slaves of complete socialism. And so that, so for me, Constantine wire at our southern border and stopping those people from pouring over, I think is the just and right thing to do. This is a nation of laws and it has to be.

And I'm a guy that's married to a woman who came from another country on a student visa. She did not speak English when she got here. She became a doctor studying in a language that she didn't even know. She added to the benefit andthat. She added to the benefit and the upside of this country. And she did everything legally. And I gotta tell you, you know, the Kumbayya stuff, I don't agree with it all. I agree, don't blow the shit out of every other nation,

but you're not coming here and pouring over and overloading the system because with five billion or more people below the poverty line of Mexico and other nations, we can't possibly help the world by allowing a million of them in at a time, we're not going to do it. We're going to do everything opposite of that. We're going to destroy our own nation. And then there's no hope for the world at all, because we have to the shining beacon that that actually is a model of the rest of the world. I mean, I definitely think we need to protect our borders and have like your wife, you know, come through legally.

But this whole conversation the last 40 minutes has been, I appreciate the constitutional conversation, but they began, they've been wiping their ass with it for a long time, but they certainly began in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act and the creating of the income tax, or the federal income tax, which was found in the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional, direct tax on wages, was found unconstitutional numerous times. So I mean, I get that constitutional argument, but I mean, and I'm not saying let's go beyond that, the thi..... And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or their, or the federal, or their, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, or the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, I'm the federal. And, I's their. And, I's their. And, I's their. And, I's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. world. But at the end of the day, man, I mean, tomorrow's the 55th anniversary when they, a coup d'etat took place and blew our head at president's head off in broad daylight. No accountability.

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who was quote unquote an independent contractor, own their own business, people who had to file 1099s, people who had to pay quarterly taxes, you know, the people who really truly pay the taxes. If everyone who did that in the nation, or half of us filed an extension and then another extension and then another extension attached to demands and said this is what we want, this is what we want, would they listen or would they arrest or kill all of us? I think that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th th, th, th, th th, th, th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, that that, that, that, their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their, their, their their their, their, their their their their their the. the. theat, teat, thauu. tr-a. tr-a. tr-a. tr-a. tr-a. tr-a. tr-a, the. we want. Would they listen or would they arrest or kill all of us? I think that's one way to remove the participation. I think there are so many different facets like James was saying, I mean, we've been kind of agreed on, we're all willing participants of this. So we have to kind of remove ourselves, whether it's taxes,

whether it's financial issues, I mean, however you want to do it. But you know, we've talked about on the show how they make, you know, correcting rain illegal. They frown on self-sufficiency. They want you on their doles. You have to be. Just the sheer mention of how I talk about tax revolts and possibly a map for how to get it done in modern times. Welcome to the audit next year, Mr. Milit. Yeah, they use it as a tool as a weapon for sure, for sure. James, I wanted to ask you about China real quick and the role of international bankers

in the growth of that because I feel like when it came to the United States that they could blend in very easily with Americans, right? I mean, we see politicians who have dual citizenship and you, I mean, two years ago, I would never have even known that was possible, wasn't through, you know, joining this kind of truth community. I learned this. Is that the same thing is going to happen in China because they can't really blend in? And I feel like China, if you kind of sell up there, there's a, there's death at the end the today, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. I, thr-a, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. was, th. was, th. was, th. was, th. was, th. was, th. was, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I wasn't, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. thin, th. thin, th end of that move. You know, we're here. It's like, we see like the Clinton's fighting tooth and now. We have this email problem where it's like, there's a good chance she sold secrets to China and that's what people are trying to hide. And I mean, will there ever be any kind

of, you know, punishment for that? And what's your thoughts in with China and the international bankers? Well. And what th the podcast that did a few years ago called China and the New World Order, where I laid out at least some of those connections and the financial framework that was laid to allow China to rise to the point where it's at now and some of the technical, industrial, and military transfers, legal and otherwise that have occurred since then. And I think the way to understand China is that it is the thi thi the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new I think the way to understand China is that it is the template for the idea for total control, total governmental control that they want to roll out everywhere in the world. It's starting in China at this point. And David Rockefeller famously said in his obituary to Mao in New York Times, he said, you know,

it was a grand, successful experiment that Mao waged, killing tens of millions of his own citizens along the way, but you know, you break a few eggs to make an omelette, right? And we see that playing out most obviously now with the rollout of the technological overlay on that control grid, with the social credit scores and the CCTV and the facial-and th... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, thi, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th grid with the social credit scores and the CCTV and the facial recognition and all of this is coming together now. And we can see what it's looking like in China. You saw that video go viral on Twitter a few weeks ago about the guy with on the high-speed train,

and it's got that announcement. Anything you do on this train will be recorded on your social credit score. This is coming and we know it's coming. Minority report, dude. I think this is why, one of the reasons, they're using China as kind of that laboratory, they're also using it as the foil, exactly as Russia, the Soviet Union was the foil in the Cold War, which was supported by technological and other types of support from American industry and financiers that propped up the Soviet boogieman for as long as they needed that boogie man to be propped up.

We've seen the ICIASIS, Alciaida boogieman in the last couple of decades, but China is going to be the boogieman for the 21st century. That's the way they're angling it. And there's the same the same linkages and the same financial infrastructure which undergirds all of that. It's incredibly important to understand that so that we don't get fooled again. So that we don't let them pull another cold war or God forbid World War III, which is another possible. They're growing right under our nose, man, from the expansion of the military bases in the South China Sea you have what I think it's called the String of Pearls you have the one belt one road which is just I mean you had a Sri Lanka just recently just gave up a port in Sri Lanka to the Chinese for some financial stuff but I mean

not only they do these trade routes but they're also putting military bases on some of these islands in that string of pearls and even what is it called, ASEAN, the Association of Southeast As in Nations. I've been kind of talking about this for a while. I mean, that's these trade deals that are just locking down this area. And it's just growing and growing and growing. I mean, it's all, I'm going to say it's a problem, but they're already there. But they're already there. They're taking nation shipping ports. I mean, they're already there, but before we know, I mean, let's face it, they're just taking over the old World Bank IMF game. I mean, they've been doing this for decades and decades and decades, but now China's getting

in on it. Well, and also the production of their Petro Chuan, like, they've moved away from the Petro dollar as well with their introduction of the Petrochuan. U.S. intelligence, I'm obviously working on a way to get, and India and China have had skirmishes in that region up there, I'm doing everything I can to if there's going to be, if China's going to become that much of a threat, which we know it is, I'm trying to figure out how to get India and China to go to global nuclear war against each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. the that's exactly. to get. to get. to the old. the old. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the thi, I'm thi. I thin, I'm the the the thin, I'm the the the the the the the thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm try th. I'm doing thin. I'm doing th. I'm doing th. I'm doing th. I'm doing thin. I'm th. I'm th, you want the second strongest power to challenge the strongest power. And it's interesting in that context, it was Tillerson last year, just to drop the Indo-Pacific region nomenclature.

Now they're not calling it the Asia-Pacific. Now it's the Indo-Pacific. And they are definitely trying to build up India as that sort of bulwark against China but I think all sides of this are you know when you go far and up up up the ladder they're all in on it in a sense well that's I told him had a while ago look out for false flags in like northern northern India because that that cashmere region because the one about one road goes through that area and yeah and so in western China their India and there's theirthey're actually in this Shanghai cooperation organization together. They're all full-fledged members of that now.

So they have military, joint military exercises and things like that. But they're also, as you say, last year, we're at the brink of actual military confrontation in some dirt path, overpass in some mountain somewhere. Like, what on earth does this matter? But it's clearly,this is Western Western China. The Uyghurs, the Islamic U.S. in Western China, those I think are being touched by some of our CIA to radicalize that region to to necessitate, oh the US has to be here now because and this goes straight through one about one road straight to Europe I believe.

So I mean the chess game man like the big new Brazinski said not a fan but it's the grand chessboard for real James do you see Europe becoming any kind of military power I know that they're they're trying to build up their military now and I think some people in the United States are getting a little nervous about that and what that what the implications are for our role in the world, you know, policing and stuff, but do you see them as starting to either come together and be in their own kind of military force? Yeah, well, this is the problem because the EU is kind of collapsing in front of our eyes, but the problem is they might fail forward and actually try to consolidate even harder.

So, okay, oh, you know, Britain might try to remove itself and maybe they will, maybe they won't. But anyway, we'll just come together even more firmly and we saw that last year with some forwarding of ideas about formalizing and hardening the European, shared European borders and bloating up their European, I forget what is called Frontex or whatever, their joint military guard around the borders as a way of saying to the rising populist public, hey, don't worry guys, we're all European, we're all in this together, we're all a big collective and we're going to take care of you. And one aspect of that is the super army that they want to create, they've talked about it for years now, and they're at least, at at at at at at at at at least, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.e.ea.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. thea.a. thea. thea. thi. thi, thi, ththere's at least taking the rhetorical steps forward on that. Well then, I guess the only, we can hope that they collapse before they're able to really organize like that, but I don't know. Yeah

Macron, Macron comes out with the idiotic statement saying that they want European, European nations need to build their own army to protect themselves from the United States, which is obviously his his lashing out at Trump for the way that he's talked about Europe not holding up its end of the deal and paying its part in NATO and UN and everything else. But I mean, when I look at Macron, Macron's got, what is his approval rating? What, 20%? And I mean, I'm surprised they haven't revolted more than just over the gas prices and hung that guy. I just don't know why people don't go after these politicians. Why I think that's one thing about the United States why they keep building us up is because there is stability here.

You know it's like there's no wild like left this guerrilla army coming and overthrowing Washington DC that always business as usual which is great as a civilian, you know, you're not going to worry about, you know, all of a sudden there's a coup going on here and there, but sometimes I think it's just like we don't, we let these guys get away because they know there's never going to be any kind. But these guys are the shadows on the wall. I mean, you can punch the wall and try get at those shadows, but you're just going to fracture your own hand. And if people go after the politicians, let's string them all up. That is the exact excuse that the people in control of the real powers want to...

Okay, now we get to crack down on them and we have the rest. Nothing, nothing screams stability like Nancy Pelosi. What is your take on that, James? Uh, as being on the outside, the whole liberal versus conservative here and you know, how it's just like, they're at each other's necks right now. It's like, I just had a guy on my podcast who's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the............. the, the.. the, the, the the, the, the the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, the, the, the, the's just like, they're at each other's necks right now. It's like, I just had a guy on my podcast who's like very liberal and like the feedback has been insanely negative and it makes me upset because I'd like my show to be both sides. They hear both sides the argument because there is too much one side echo chamber shit. But what's your take on like liberal? I hear that liberalism leads to Nazism, but then I look at like a lot of stuff's going on right now with capitalism and

how much damage we're doing to the rest of the world and how there's parts of this United States that are straight up third world, man. Stray up third world. Like what's your whole thoughts on that? Well, look, okay, this is the Canadian and Japan's perspective on this, so, you know, I'm not jelling anyone how to run their own country, but what I'm saying is that there are historical parallels to this. This is not some new thing that's just happening for the first time. I mean, there are different elements to this, like the works, but we've seen this before, and it's the rise of the polar extremes. It's the rise of the communists, give rise to the fascists. They feed off each other, and there comes a point when you've got to choose a side, because

it just keeps getting more and more divided, and that's where we're heading. And we know where that heads. And it heads in the favor of the ultimate controllers, who wanted the. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, and, the, the, and, the, the, the, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, the, the, the, is, they.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. And, f. And, the, the favor of the ultimate controllers who wanted things like World War II to happen in the first place because, again, all the million reasons, but profit always being one of the reasons, they get to profit from us basically tearing each other apart. And it's hard, it's perhaps impossible to step in once that polarization starts. I mean, how do you stop that process from working? If I had the golden bullet to that, I would have been firing it, a silver bullet, I would have been firing it a long time ago, right? So I don't know what the answers to that is, but clearly this is not a healthy direction for society, but people might argue, hey,

maybe it's just part of the pendulum swing. It's got to go this way once in a while, to clear things out and get people back on board because politics is essentially the warfare by other means and if we're not, if we're not agreeing politically, then it's time for warfare and then we go back to agreeing politically again. And is there a way to avoid that cycle is the real question? If you look at the documentary Dunn told history of United States by Oliver Stone and his book and if you look at some of the film, some of the old debates like in black and white with Nixon and Kennedy and you know some even older politicians and you look at these debates there it's literally the same

shit that they're saying today like literally it's like they're saying that it's if you put it in color and you replace them with modern day politicians they're feeding you the same bullshit. And I always say how like, you know, politicians and those in power, they capitalize on our awful long-term, long-term memory. Like, we've, you know, Vietnam happens, and then Iraq happens, then we're, you know, we're almost letting Syria happen, you know, and it's like we keep making the same mistake over and over again, and we just keep pretending like,, oh, this time's going to be different. And we keep falling for the same trick over.

You know, is it going, tying this back to World War I. I read this on my video the other last week from Lord Milner's Second War, talking about this Alfred Milner, who was one of the men happened, he said, my interests do not run on the lines of party. And if I can help in however small a way to carry out the objects I have at heart, I do not care two straws how the politicians are labeled who execute them. And that was exactly what they ended up doing. They rode the conservative government when they were in power.

150 years ago, 100 fucking 50 years ago. Exactly. Didn't matter who the public voted for or what they voted for. In 1906, the British public explicitly elected Henry Campbell Bannerman on this platform of peace. We have to be the leaders of the world in peace because we're clearly heading towards war. We don't want to go there. People elect him. Immediately Milner and his gang get their guys in the positions of power in that government and they just continue making the preparations for war. Same thing that Carol Quigley was writing about decades later when he said that the whole point is to get them to get the two parties so that there's really no difference so that you can vote the rascals out every four years and it makes no difference to

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and obviously we all know the history of Edward Bernays and understanding that, you know you can manipulate our desires and the way we think and we all don't know who Edward Bernays is let's stop assuming everybody knows who that Edward Bernays seriously go check out a documentary called the fuck what was it called well century of the self century of self yes it's like 11 hours but it is the biggest I hate to use this euphemism now because someone told me it's a but the red pill it's an ultimate red pill to show how just just just like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. the they. the they. the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I I. the. I. the. I. to use this euphemism now because someone told me it's a bad but the red pill it's an ultimate red pill to show how just just like judge Mr. Corbett's video on World War I how Sophisticated these works are this this work to start World War one lasted a decade plus and it was like four or five guys who started it. Well, I mean Adam Curtis Century of a very important documentary check that out. I mean even known Chomsky and manufacturing consent to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their theirc. theirc. I theirc. I their c. I theirc. I'm just. I'm just just. I'm just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their their their their their their their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I their c. I'm just just just just just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just very important documentary, checked that out. I mean, even Nome Chomsky and Manufacturing Consent talked about it.

You know, another good documentary by Richard Grove, state of mind, the psychology of control. They talk about it. I mean, there's tons of great work out there to talk about it. I mean, he's a nephew of Sigmund Freud, you know, wrote propaganda, the book. And really really really those those those those those those those those those those those those th th th th th th th th th thoe thease thease theatue thease thease the, the, the, the, thoom, thozymea, the, the, the, th propaganda, the book. And really those techniques were used and everything from corporations were using it to governments to everything. So it's really important. I mean, I know people who... Yes, go on, Pat? No, I was going to say, you know, when we go back through history and see how these wars were put together, you know, very, very complex and sophisticated ways of doing things, putting those chess pieces in place. Little acts, does it give anyone here on this panel any kind of hope when we knew that the

United States certainly assisted big time in army and ISIS to take out Assad. Does it give anybody hope? And I've got legitimate intelligence from a guy very high up in the intelligence community. And he, if I, I can sit here and tell you and go back through what I've talked about on my podcast about who this guy is, but I don't want to give away who he is because he wants to remain anonymous. You know I asked him right away did did Trump you know pull the plug on the ISIS funding and he said absolutely 100% day got in. But didn't he bring him back? Yeah but what's that? I thought he brought it back as well. Only the white the white helmets have gotten some money but nothing

nothing on the level of what we've done, you know, in the past under the Clinton and Clinton State Department and from this gentleman, you know, his assessment, which is legit, trust me, when you know who he is. Maybe over beers, you guys can get to meet him someday. I'm sure that possibly we will, but let you guys meet him. But it at least gave me a glimmer of hope that Trump is somewhat trying or was trying

before they got their hooks into him to stop this ball from growing and rolling downhill. Well, this is my problem with all this Trump conversation, is that, you know, just like with James, I mean, I've had, I'm like these guys. I've had Roger Stone on my show. I've had, you know, I've had people from counterpunch on my show. I've had, you know, Lee Camp who's progressive on my show.

I've had so many, you know, so many, so many different, so I'm open,to all perspectives. I never tend to believe that I know the truth or the capital T or that I have it all figured out. I'm constantly readjusting and recalibrating and and but the thing about this Trump thing is that, you know, once we start looking for and nip and looking at like okay he did this positive thing or he did that don't we aren't we almost subconsciously falling into that tribal thinking that we think is so dangerous so you're so and and and I understand the the mindset that we all should have and that we should always be skeptical yeah but but but at the same time while remaining skeptical because the more time goes by the longer the longer it takes for the thor th th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi ta ta ta ta ta tha the ta ta tha tha tha tha the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta the same time while remaining skeptical because the more time goes by, the longer it takes for any indictments to be levied

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So I think that's why I kind of reserved my judgment. I mean, one thing I love about James is that he came out of one documentary about Obama's legacy, legacy of ashes soon after he came left office. And then soon after, I don't know if it was a couple weeks or a couple months later, he had a short documentary called Trump Filling the Swamp. Like he, I think that's really important. I think it's very easy to fall in love and want to believe that this person is the, the, sure. And I don't know. I mean, I mean, it's, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, it's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I don't, it, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't th, I don't th, I don't th- I don't know, don't th-I don't know, I don't th-I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't thi, love and want to believe that this person is the the sure

sure sure and and I don't know I mean it's it's almost like you know you you briefly brought up the border conversation you know the Mexicans coming in here and stuff like that and protecting our borders I think that's really we can easily get caught up in that too and be like well well who's gonna protect us, now we need more government, right? Because we have this boogie man Mexicans that we don't want coming into our country and ruling our liberty, you know, and it's, and so it's like, you know, it almost works in their favor, instead of doing what we should be doing, and that's probably getting, instead of spending all this money overseas, you know, blowing shit up, if we help Mexico, their, their feet. Believe me, I know people from Guatemala, I know people from Mexico, they haven't seen their families and years. They don't want to be here unless they, you know,

they literally needed to be because they had no other chance of survival. Let me ask James. I'm going to ask James a specific question because this has been crossing my mind for the past week. We see the eroding support of Saudi Arabia in this country, at least by the media the media politicians. And what I see happening, at least in the bigger scr- you know, the border, Syria is destroyed literally. I mean, it's falling apart. Russia has helped hold it back together by a shoestring. So Syria is almost done. The last Middle Eastern nation on that list to be destroyed was Iran. And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, what a perfect play.

If America were to make it almost obvious or lure Iran into thinking that America will not defend Saudi Arabia any more, almost giving Iran the green light to attack Saudi Arabia so that ultimately we can destroy it. And I think that, you know, that's not a far odd in my mind. James, what do you think? That's the kind of calculus that goes on all the time. So I think it's not wildly implausible. The only thing is I don't think Iran has any intention of attacking Saudi Arabia, and I don't think they're going to be goaded into it by such a ploy, but I think it is extremely important to get to the bottom of why, exactly why at this time the plug seems to be being pulled on Saudi Arabia.

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or whatever it is we want to do, and also because he's against the American dollar, what a great way to suck Iran into that, because we know that a lot of Iranian forces have gotten involved in that. And so I think that they're pulling at the legs of the dog, which is Iran from a couple different angles in my mind. There's going to be something that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi it is thi it is thi it is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. It is it is thi. It is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.'re pulling at the at the legs of the dog which is Iran from a couple different angles in my mind try and trying to be something of that going on because clearly the main cross there could it be that Iran that Saudi Arabia maybe sees a writing on the wall and is wants to get off the petro dollar and wants to stop participating in that and a long this or a lot of the deal we made with Kissinger back in the day will refine your oil as long as you make the United States dollar your petrol dollar.

And we no longer need them for oil because we have oil everybody, you know, in our country. The Saudis have been the backbone of the U.S. dollar system for a few decades now in that kind of quid pro quo. But now the question is whether they're going to to to and whether we want them there and all of that, those kinds of decisions are being made right now. And part of that calculus is the growing relations between Saudi Arabia and China and China. I was just gonna say China, it's it.

their China's it. Yeah, and Saudi, yeah, the US is now an net oil if you can believe that. So clearly Saudi Arabia sees China as the big growing market for their oil that they have to they know which side their bread's buttered on in the future if they cozy up more with China and get into the Petro Yuan system then obviously the US wouldn't want that. So that's the kind of long-term strategy. Sam always says it man such an interesting time to be alive and it really is we are seeing in a game of risk or checkers, we are seeing some big moves made. And of course they take kind of decades to do, but if you're paying tension to, you know,

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Iraqi kids, women under our sanctions or what's going on in Syria. I mean, it's insane. Yemen. And it's all, it's generally almost all horseshit and having to go back to these financial bankers. But we see these people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people these people these people these people these people the people the people the people their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm, the the the the the the th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the the the the the to go back to these financial bankers. But we see these people still lined up ready to go to war, glass parking lot, the whole fucking place, blah, blah, it's like. But if it means France having $7 a gallon or liter gas and us having $2 a gallon gas, do you support it?

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and we're here where we're going to enjoy, we're going to require our enslavement. And that's what essentially, you know, all these little things are that just, I know, I know, I can just thrown convenience and I can keep up with the Kardashian so much better with my phone. There's a there's a great video on YouTube called Free is a Lie and I forget I forget who the guy is who did the video it's a short video and he talks about how yeah you get this Google phone and you get all this all these free services but he goes into it like but what they're they're the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. I's. their. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. I. I. the. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tttttttttttttttttttoge. ttttoge. the. the. the. the the their. the their. what they're really doing is there, you know, all this mega data, they're paying attention to where you are, who you're with, and they're selling

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you, uh, video games are going to do this or TV's going to ruin society and culture. And, you know, my dad suddenly doesn't seem so crazy anymore. Yeah. This generation, honestly, like you just said, man, we're at a very crucial time because we remember cassette tape and CDs and we remember, you know, rotary phones. I mean, there's going to come a time. And you see videos online now. I don't know how real they are, but they're like, what is their kids? You know, older cats throw down a rotary phone to their kid. They're like what's this?

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I maybe, maybe I'm just hopeful. I do think the internet is the great equalizer. I do think there is a push to regulate it so they can keep it SAS quo, but I think it's all blood in the water. They can knock Alex Jones off of YouTube. I see his videos everywhere. You know, if they're knocking off, that was not knocking on games, but I think gives out real information to me. Let me bring the downer to the conversation then, because you know the first place that they're really going to make the organized, conservative effort to push AI technology

is going to be online through social media to the point where you don't know who you're interacting with as a person, or if it's part of this botnet that they're going to create and personalities generated that you can't tell from the real thing. Things, things are about to get crazy. I've already had some very, James, I've already had some very heated debates with bots, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm actually happy I'm old, that I, you know, that I'm almost aging out of this time where you got to concern yourself with all that stuff. You know, it's like, oh, no. Hints, it's actually, it's actually the name's the name's the name's the name's the name's the name's the name's the name, it's the name, it's the name, it's the name, it's the name, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, things, things, th. It's a, things, things, things, things, things, things, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, James, I's, James, I's a, I's a, I's a, I's a, I's a. I's a. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. things, it's a things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, things, it's like, oh, no, it's the name of St. M. Tripoli's most recently dropped stand-up comedy, no fucks. Yeah. You can pick up on Vimeo, ladies, gentlemen. So I'm actually kind of, only if you, if you ever get messages, whether at Facebook, Twitter, or, you know, people trying to argue with you, debate with you, I've gone back, and I'm, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if you, if you, if you, if you, if, if you, if you, if, the the, the, the, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the, the the the the, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, the, they, the, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, trying to argue with you, debate with you.

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And now you see kind of conspiracy side coming up with the stuff that will fight the establishment and now you see kind of conspiracy side coming up with it because when there's an idea when you believe in an ideology that's just like it causes you to be blind and it makes you not be able to be more creative in my opinion that's why like like Bruce Lee said man they try to solidify that which was once fluid these conversations like we're having we're not necessarily as dogmatic about our philosophies. We are we are flexible, we are malleable, you know what I mean? So flexible that I can point out to Sam that his headphones are made of

petroleum. Probably I probably probably read video back at this moment. Because I just want to say some because I got a jam. I just wanted to say some real quick that being on the show with you guys, when I started my show like two years ago, like I would never have ever believe that be on with all you guys. You know, I've been, Jeffrey, I talked to a lot, but everybody else here, I'm fans of your work, you know, I'm not being following Pat forever, but to be on with you guys has been a real honor and you like, I really love what you guys are doing. You guys are very important to everything that, that you know, you're important to humanity in my opinion.

We're on the same team, man, we're gonna stay on the same team. And then the inserts, the inserts that are happening, you know, those plants that are happening from the from the elitists that are that are putting people in place that seem like they're part of our community and then they go off on some fucking skewed tangent on holograms hitting the the twin towers and stuff like that. You know, that's the thing is where we need to stick together together and filter all that bullshit out and get rid of those people quickly and not pay attention to them and keep doing what we're doing and stay on the path. I think that's so important because we've seen it in the alternative media a lot the last couple years just people turning on each

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Yeah. Medley Butler for my part three of this World War I conspiracy where he said he was trying to educate the soldiers out of the sucker class and that's a good way of putting it. So I'd like to think I'd like to think that's part of what I'm doing but it's really nothing so grandiose it's just that I am interested in history I'm interested in how the world really works I have got this platform where there are people who are supporting me to do this work, so I'm going to do it. This is amazing. This is wonderful. Hey, we're on the ripple effect, man. We're doing, we are the butterfly flapping its wings in Tampa, Florida, creating a monster

in China, ladies gentlemen, I never know. But at the end of the day, if nothing else, I think my experience just shows what is possible, I'm, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this podcaster and I'm doing this from my living room in Japan. Like what on earth is this even? I don't know but I'm just going to continue doing it while people say. I've been watching you for years sir. I've been watching you for years. What a wonderful time to be alive. Yeah.

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different backgrounds and hopefully, you know, everything from James' fans to Pat and Jeff, Sam's, my fans, everybody can come together, realize that even though we're all slightly different, we're all here for the same goal. And that's much more important than falling into, because like we talk about the beginning of the show, exactly what they want us to do is not focus on our similarities, but take those little differences and just fight till the end of time about those things. Let's just fight. You know, and then those in power who really don't give a shit about IDI, you know, it's like that movie network, you know, there is, you know, there's only, there's only, you know, these corporations, those are the people who are pulling the strings and and those are ones that we should be we should be putting our attention on the and I'll ask this one

last thing do you voice your opinion on this your vote do you think in our lifetime we'll ever see a Rothschild hanging from a tree wow yes or no One can only wonder. I think it's very possible. I mean, I would like to see something happening. Yeah, I think it's possible. I don't think it would change the thing about the way the world works. Yeah, I don't think, see, this is where I think what, like Sam told him again,

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we've got to raise cattle and chickens in our back fucking yards. We've got to dig our own power. So that's what you're saying we have to do instead of hang all the motherfuckers. Well, yeah, hang them and then who takes the place of all of those positions? It'll be the same. Yeah, you can't legislate. You can't legislate evil, dude. Or even worse could happen, and probably would, because they've got that back up. I know there weren't people jumping up and down to replace Quizzling. Well when when they kill Gaddafi, when they kill Saddam, when they kill, you know, they're sold the same idea like this evil person, if we take him down, things will be better and then it's just another corrupt person in place, never gets better. Never gets better. And never about an individual, it's always an ideology. Absolutely, absolutely. So I won't hold you guys up. I know it's a day before

Thanksgiving, so hopefully you guys have a wonderful holiday with your friends and family. Have a drink. Happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy guys. I can't thank you guys enough for being on. Hopefully we can do it again. Of course the guy who writes all the emails and put this together isn't even seen on camera, which sucks, but it is what it is. We appreciate him, appreciate your brother. We got the best- Dude, you did great job putting this together. Thank you so much.

Yeah, thank you gentlemen. Thanks. And hopefully, I know James is a very busy guy. uh... you know to jeff you guys all have other shows another uh... work but if we can do this you know even if it's twice a year if it's you know a couple times here whatever we can do let's come together let's quarterly yeah quarterly yeah quarterly if if possible let's let's let's do it let's I mean we had a great conversation and let's let's let's keep the name of this episode, dude. I think it is. I think it is. I spend like a whole month coming up with names and Jeff in like two seconds just throw

them all away. He's like, just, that was awesome. So yeah, maybe, maybe that's what we'll call it. I'll put this out as possible if you guys don't mind. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but you can send us this I'd love to put us out because it was an excellent conversation. Yeah, thank you guys. Awesome. Absolutely. Thanks guys. I'll thank you. I'll good to see all of you. Love you guys. Thank you everybody. Take care.