Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #167: The Tin Foil Ripple Farm Report Swapcast Chapter 2

Episode Date: February 19, 2019

Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This week I did another installment of the Tin Foil Ripple Farm Report swap cast with James Corbett, Ricky Varandas and eventually Pat Miletech. It's always a pleasure to talk to these guys about what is really going on in the world. Thank you for your support.

I believe in the ripple effect. What's up in another episode of Ripple Effect podcast? I'm your host Ricardo Verandis, also known as Ricky Brandis. We have another swap cast, the Tinfoil Ripple Farm report, representing the Corby report, James Corbett, representing the Tinfoil Hat Podcast, Sam Trippley, and representing the Conspiracy Farm Podcast today is UFC Legend, Pat Milititch. This is the second time we've done one of these, the first time we did it, Jeffrey Wilson, from the Conspiracy Farm Podcast, the other host of the show. Join us, hopefully in future shows, he'll also be joining us. So check that out all these guests have been on a bunch a a a the the back in the archives, check out past appearances. We've had tons of great conversations and really looking forward

to doing more of these tinfoil ripa farm report shows. It's fun to get this many people together that are willing to talk about things they agree on, but also talk about things they disagree on showing that you can have civil discussions and debate and you're not stuck to your ideas and you're willing to have your ideas challenge and cheer your ideas. It's really interesting. Plus anytime you can kind of just bounce perspectives and stuff off people you respect, I think it's really beneficial. I always learn so much from these discussions. Hopefully you guys do too.

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You know, my old one was kind of having some issues, so I had to upgrade that. You know, all the stuff is, you know, like I said, it costs money. But if you can't support financially, share the show that goes a long way. Also, I'm always telling you guys you never know who's listening, who's clicking on that article or documentary or podcast that that you like, that you might have found interesting. You never know who clicked on it and also finds it interesting and you might slowly be changing their perspectives or maybe getting them to go down a rabbit hole that they weren't aware of. So that's super important and thr-a'c-tha. that's thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thir, thir, thir, thir, thir, thir, thi. thi. thi, that that that thi, thi, that that you're that you're that you're that you that you like that you like that you like that you like that you like, that you like, that you like, that you like, that you like, that you like, that you like, that you that you that you that you that you that that that that that thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's thateeananan, thatean, thateateeat, thr-s, thateeat, thr-s, that, thateeat, thateeeeeeat, that, that, that, that, th. So that's super important. And these type of podcasts I think are super

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And I'll see you guys on the next one. Peace. Look at this. The band is back together. I hear you guys loud and clear. How do I sound? Everybody sound good? Yep. Yeah, everybody sounds good. Are we missing Pat? Yeah, I use his number. I don't know what his number is. So, hold on. Let me see if you can join us. Yeah. Yeah, I talk to Jeff early. to their number. I know his number. I don't know what his number is. So let me see if you can join us. Yeah, I talked to Jeff earlier and he he's like, yeah, because he mentioned that he might not be able to make it, but he's like, yeah, Pat's definitely in. And so I just wrote him a email to Jeff, just let him that we're ready. And if Pat's joins in, just let me know on Skype and I can throw them into the call.

Perfect, dude. It's good to see you on camera, buddy, this time. You graduate the face time. That's great to see. Yes, yes. But yeah, well, the nice thing is, I'm, I think Skype you can have up to, you know, like 20 people on a conference call. So I don't I don't know why we had that issue last time and honestly the conversation started and I didn't want to like stop the conversation and be like hey let me try this let me try that and I'm

like you know what forget about it. You know most people listen to podcast anyways they don't watch them but you know we're a good group good good looking group so. They the this is the the good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th tho the the tho the tho tho tho tho the the tho to to the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the think exactly when I see this group. This is the panty dropper podcast right here. New name. But yeah, we might as well start. I mean, we'll wait till we hear from Pat. If I end up getting a call or something from him, I will, you know, I'll end up putting them in the call.

But thanks guys, thanks for being with me. I really really really really really really really really really really really tha. I thate. thiiia. thia. thia, thanks for being with me. I really appreciate. The last podcast went really well. It's amazing, I don't know if you guys are getting a lot of this on your show, but I'm getting a lot of people tell me thank you that I'm doing a show and then I think you guys are probably getting the same type of responses because you guys are doing a very similar type of show for being open-minded and not joining. Because right now it seems like now more than ever, and maybe it was always like this, but

it just seems more obvious now or more people are contacting me in regards of it, it's like people are even in the alternative media people are being tribal, where it's like you're either everything Trump does is good or everything he does is bad or even the Venezuela thing which is huge in the news recently, it's like you're like you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th...................... th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the news recently it's like you're getting this rhetoric of communism and socialism to justify intervention again and people are like falling for this trick over and over again and I'm just like dude look at the mess that we left in Libya you know with open you know trades out and human slave trades I mean look at what's going on all over the world, and people still fall for this nonsense, you know? And are you guys getting a lot of that type of response?

Like people just thinking, because both of you are very similar to myself, and I think that's why we all get along and why we do these podcasts? Is that you just look at the evidence, you just, you, you, it's all theater it's just puppets and people fall for this political nonsense it's almost like people like I almost feel like it's it's almost like no fence women who I'm gonna offend them like women gossip about you know what's going on in people's lives like I feel like people like the gossip of politics like oh you know he's a scumbag he the they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. th. th the the the th th th th their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the p. the p. the p. the the p. the p. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. bill is because of that and it's like you just like the drama of it but they don't realize it's all theater and it's all bullshit oh let's tell James's

fans immediately that there is going to be swearing in this podcast I do get comments on that every time I'm on here someone complaining that oh there's too too thinn't th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin' the thin' thin' the thin' thin' thin' thin' the their thin' the the-soa' the-I the-I the-I the-I their their their the-I th-I the-I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thii to to to theateateateateateateateate-I's toeat-I'm th-I'm th-I'm thr-I'm tho-I'm thi swears in this, or is someone thanking me for not swearing? So. Yeah. I am going to do my best to not swear. I'm going to that. Well, I think it's refreshing.

On that note, though, yeah, there are people who do, occasionally do you get thanks for that kind of what you're the other people who call me a shill for not playing along with the game. But I mean, they're the oldest tricks in the book, these same old manipulations. We constantly bash our heads against the wall. How can people be falling for this time after time after time after time? But they're the oldest tricks in the book because they work. They work a lot of the time. And they don't they don't the people the people. And they don't their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. tie. tea. tea. tea. tea. triooooa. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. the a constant thauoea. the keep the system floating along, right? For me, it's just, we call them goldfish on my show. They just only remember what's in front of them and nothing behind them or what happened in the past. I always say, conspiracy theorists are more historians than anything,

where scorekeepers, we keep the score, we don't remember it. I'm, what I'm seeing a lot right now in in this in the world of truth is a lot of parody a lot of just regurgitation of phrases, words and thoughts said to them by people on on on the on just in the news or whether it's Twitter or anything like that and just that you know still holding like it's it's hilarious to me as like Russian collusion just dies and NBC news puts out that there's nothing there and then MSNBC Doubles down that there is something there and people will cling to that MSNBC thing and it's not even that They they think it's right just they don't want to be wrong and they're doubling down on not their????????? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. their th. th. thi thi thi thi their their their their thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their their their their their thi. thi. It's thi. It's their thi. It's their thi. It's their their thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the it's right, just they don't want to be wrong and they're doubling down on not being wrong.

It's almost like they'd rather be right than do right. And that's kind of what we're up against. Again, I'm on no sides, you know, it's like within my show, we call it Ronin, we have no masters, we just, we just, you know, like you, like you, James, I get the, I, I, I, I, like, I, like, I, like, I, like, like, and, and, and, and, and, like, and, and, and, and, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, th. and, I, th. And, I, like, th. And, I, like, th. And, like, I, like, like, like, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, James, I get called everything from gay, shill, Jew, alt-right, because only people hear when I make fun of their side. They never hear when I make him put on the other side, because to that makes sense it doesn't register. Only when I call out their side doesn't matter, so I become this other, this monster when they don't realize I kind of call out hypocrisy and tyranny on both sides.

Yeah, and yeah, can go, James? Well, I was just going to bring up, I was reading an article the other day on the American Conservative.com by Robert Mary. I don't know, it's not a great article overall, but he makes an excellent point about the narrative that controls people's reaction to the exact same set of facts. And he's saying, he's talking in the context of this new revelation about the 25th Amendment and the deep state coup against Trump kind of thing, but he's saying those exact same facts mean exactly opposite things to people who believe narrative A, that, you know, whatever Trump is Hitler and

blah blah blah blah, blah, or narrative B, the people Trump is the savior, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they can take the exact same facts and take them in exact opposite directions. This is a great thing, this is a wonderful thing, this is the civil servants doing their job and upholding the Constitution, or this is the undermini. the same same same same same same the the same same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same same the con, th, th, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, they., thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi., thean, thin, the, the, the, the, this is the end of America, from the exact same set of effects. And that's the point, really. We are controlled by narrative, not facts. And which narrative do you believe determines which way the exact same set of data can be interpreted? A great point about that is the steel dossier, dozer, whatever it is. I still don't know what to call it, but how, like, people will go, oh, nothing's been disproven in that.... that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. the their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the their their, their't know what to call, but how people will go, oh, nothing's been disproven in that. Well, nothing's been proven in it either.

So it's like, both sides are kind of right. So it's like, depending on what you're looking for, yes, you can't disprove something that's never been proven. And you can't prove something that's never been disproven. So it's like, get whatever you want and that's almost this kind of game that they have going on. Yeah you see people do it all the time you have a conversation with somebody and they just justify everything's they'll just somebody they like they'll just justify all their actions. They, it's like, oh, he's corrupt, it's a, you know, this, and I'm like, do you not see what you're doing, you're

contradicting yourself? And it just, it's so amazing how people can't see through that, even if they're very logical people in regards to everything else. But it does seem like, you know, Trump is one of those presidents that people absolutely love. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr-I. thi. thi. thi. thrown, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. to, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thi. It's with a passion. There's like no in between. So you have you've created two extreme sides. There's no moderate. There's no, you know, which is funny because when he first ran, you know, the Republicans didn't really like them. The Democrats really like them. And he actually said some things that made sense. The problem is he didn't do any of those things. And you know he talked about the TPPP P. He the. He the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the thi. thi. the their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. their th. their th. their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their is. their. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. the. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. they. the. the TPP, you know, how that was bad. He called out all the politicians about they took how they took money from, you know, from lobbyists and all this stuff and from himself too, how he took money from Trump, and kind of like, look like he was kind of pulling the curtain back, but I think that's why a lot of people, they kind of looked at it like, okay, yeah, maybe there's a chance but the thing is you see it and and James I mean he he executed it perfectly in his his uh... filled a trump or it's filling the swamp a video that at the end of the day it's like the cabinet advisors the people around them are always the same people and when you

look where the you know who the mercers and all these people who the people who gave them money and help like there's I mean it's just a lot of influence from the outside that people don't realize and and Sam's talked about it you know numerous of times like the people who are really pulling the strings people who have serious influence you don't know their names you know it's not the typical like just the Koch brothers or the you know the common you know the sorrows you know people you know people like they'n like theyme the the the the the their their their their their their their their their so so so so so so. their their their their their. their. their. their. their. Sore's like. their. their like. their like. their th th their like. th like. th like th like like like like like their like like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. their like. th. th. their th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their th. th. and intricate. A lot of times people say, you know, they poo poo a conspiracy because they're like, oh, they like people believe in conspiracies because it's just, it's easier than believing the truth. And it's like, no, a lot of times it's much more complex. If you look at the conspiracy, it's much more complex. Yeah. But that actually feeds into what you were saying before about the drama. And I I I I I. thape. thia. thia. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're, they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's like, they's like, they's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, they's they's they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're they're like, they're like, they're they're going on here. I mean, this is infotainment to a large extent,

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And honestly, it's much more interesting about real-world events to have that kind of drama, and infotainment than about some, you know, their show because it was always on at the same time and you know broadcast to everyone at the same moment but now we don't have that cultural thing bringing us together so now politics is the infotainment of the 21st century and unfortunately yeah it means we don't talk about anything of substance we're talking about what's dangled in front of us and of course all of the things that we're being fed right now are th......... the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the the the the th. the the the th. th. the th. th th. th th th th thr. thrown. thrown. to to to to toe toe toe toe toe throoooooooooooe. the. the. the. the. th're being fed right now are things that are dangled in front of us Because it doesn't fundamentally affect the system I couldn't agree more man. I could not agree more. I actually believe that this kind of You know here in the states. I'm watching the you know network television whether it's news or entertainment, and what they're doing doesn't make any sense to me. So it almost is like the ratings they know what the ratings?????????? the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the ratings. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. their thu. their their their their thu. their their their thu. thu. tho. thu. th. th. doing doesn't make any sense to me. So it almost is like the ratings, they know what the ratings are so bad that they're just doing stuff to kind of get us all the fight with each other. So we stop watching this, they actually kill off this old medium to move us to this new medium of internet where there are no rules.

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And that to me is all done on purpose so that we don't come together. I mean for me, dude, this movement with misinformation has really stemmed for the fact that I mean if you look back at Vietnam that was a weird moment for this country where like the powers of be realized we got so smart that we all came together and said no more war and you see all those videos and a white man a black man a a Mexican woman straight gay everybody marched together to end these wars and I feel like that scared them and so now like since this 19 year war we've been in all we're seeing is like misinformation fighting fighting fighting fighting, fighting,

this guy lying about getting lynching and everybody's fighting over it. And it wasn't true and this stuff is like, I think there's just a lot of agents of chaos and agents of provocators that are just out there to keep us from folks on the fact that we are storm troopers right now and we're kicking in brown people and poor people countries doors and stealing their resources and we don't know what's going on there we're sending our sons and daughters to die in banker wars and they don't want us to focus on that so we fight with each other. Yeah, no, no.

Nothing new under the sun. Yeah, this whole, I mean, we could get into the meta-conspiracy then because the 60s counterculture was itself partially engineered. And we know all of, I mean, the CIA distributing the LSD and all of that, but even beyond that, you had back in the 40s, starting, I think 45-ish, they started with the cybernetics conferences where they brought together all of these people who were basically going to be the leading scientists in MK Ultra and other related fields, who were talking about the best way to engineer society as a whole, mass psychology. And how do we do this? Well, basically, you know, reduce mind to brain. It's just a physical, biological machine. So all we have to do is figure out what inputs to put in to brain, it's just, you know, it's just a physical biological machine. So all we have to do is figure out what inputs to put in to get the expected output.

It's all just one big algorithm and how do we do this? And they knew. Well, in order to basically get all of those perturbations out of the system, the things that we don't like, creativity and things like that, ooh, you know, humans acting on their own and doing things we can't calculate, well, we have to have change agents in there to direct them in this direction or that direction so that they can't get too far outside of the system. This has been talked about and researched for at least 70 years by this point. And a lot of that history, of course, who knows about that history, but it's there and it's documentable. And people like Tree Stream Media did a four-hour documentary on the minds of men, talking,

laying this out how all these crazy, you know, M.K. Ultra type experiments were part of a much broader system of control that is now so far refined. I mean, that was 70 years ago. What are the, what are the secret conferences that are going on today that we might find out about 70 years from now if there's anyone with a thinking brain left to find out about them at that point? Couldn't agree more ma'am. I mean like just look at this thing with the Kong Kaepernick. I don't know if you guys have seen this where they settled out of court. They'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their. T they'll their. T their. T. The. The. The. The. The. The. They'll their. The. They'll their. They'll their. They'll they'll their. They're their. They're th. They're th. They're the. They're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thee. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the. the.the documents out, the minimum I think is 50 mil, and it was all done on purpose. Like these billionaires who own these NFL teams, they make the, like, the the NFL team is their side project. Like it's like when a guy's a basketball player and he's a

rapper, it's like that's a side project. That's what these teams are. So these guys all make their money in real, like oil, stock markets, all the stuff where the real money is, right? So they use this kind of this side thing. It's a huge thing in America, but it's their side thing. So they have no problem with kind of messing with it a little bit. So you create this chaos about, you know, black men kneeling and how disrespectful that is to the military. So now once again we have black versus white and chaos breaks out. And then they just decide to end it. They throw this guy 50, 60 mil and then we move on. Without any real understanding what was going on and what was said in those emails.

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you know, police brutality. That was then spun into disrespecting the military and then all chaos broke loose and you couldn't stop talking about it and everybody was fighting all over it. And at the end of the day, but there was all these emails and documents about what that was really going on that will never be released. They all signed gag orders that they'll never discuss the actual guts of the case and we'll never know, but everybody involved made a lot of money off it. Really, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that part of it.

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who had the joke like oh the reason why I don't go live in another country is I don't want to be a victim to America's foreign policy. So even though I complain about it, you know, I live here because I don't want to be a victim to their, it is the safest place to be, you know. But it is, it's one of those tricks where it's like no I love this country but the most patriotic thing you can do is speak out against the bad shit because you know and the government's only it doesn't it's not just the government that represents the you know the country the people represent the country the the culture the music the friends you have the family that was raised in that country like unfortunately, unfortunately, you know, and you talked about Vietnam,

Vietnam's a perfect example. There's a lot of people who lived in this country who were anti that war. So what the government was doing wasn't representative of what the people wanted. They were just kind of doing their own shit anyways, you know, and then it's just probably should have had a question at the end of that long time. Well, look, I mean we're broadly on the same page with regards to these problems. The real question is what's the solutions and I think there's three kind of meta ways that we can handle and approach this.

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didn't make sense and I think that the same way I think it's ridiculous if you're in Germany you can't talk about the the the the the how how how how how how how how how I think people should have the freedom to talk about anything they want, no matter how crazy it sounds or how ridiculous. I mean, because you look at history, I mean, if we're talking about the earth being round when everybody thought the earth was flat, that sounded crazy until eventually people realized, and now I guess we're going backwards again, but I think that's it's the the the their th. th. thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really the the the earth the earth their their their their to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. the the. the. the the thee. theeeeeeea. theeea. theeateatea. toe the earth was round. But I think it's really important to look at all conversations. You talked about James reading an article on a conservative website. I think that's another thing that's a huge issue is the fact that people will just live in an echo chamber of just reading things,

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facts and same thing on the other side of you know so I think you see a lot of that too where just people will ignore any information from a a person just you know if it's Abby Martins it's like oh well she's a socialist you know so screw you know screw her work or or if it's a you know somebody on the right you know like screw that per you know it's like you don't have to believe everything somebody says but if you find good information on on somebody's website or they write a good article look at it you, and then, you know, you filter out the bullshit.

But, you know, you doesn't mean somebody can't make a good point just because you don't agree with them. Yeah. It's funny that you bring that up, actually, because last weekend in my subscriber newsletter, I linked to an article by basically saying, you'll never know. You can't know. You'll never see into the minds of other people. You don't know what their secret intention is.

Maybe they're secretly acting a certain way so they can get you on board so that they can sell you, blah, blah, blah. The whole point of the article is, that's valuable, that information you can use, then great, bring that on board and use that. And don't look to them as some kind of all-encompassing savior that you have to agree 100% or 0% percent. You know, you can use information whenever you find it. And it's funny, because some of the comments on my own site from some, the people, the people, the people, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, th. And, the, th. And, the, the, th. And, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, funny because some of the comments on my own site from some of the people in the comment section are basically saying, you know, well, yeah, but Catella Johnstone is controlled opposition, she's a chill, and completely missing the actual point of that article. The point,

which even, you know, it's same, basically, even if I am some controlled opposition, whatever, you can agree with this, you can use this piece of information and detach it from the source that it's coming from, which is something that I've attempted to articulate many times over the years. It's an uphill battle because you're exactly right. The first thing that people will do when they encounter information they don't want to hear is attack the source. Attack the source. Yeah.

I mean, because everyone knows that's the way to to to to to to to to to to to that you don't want to hear is there's got to be a problem with the source done and what's the perfect example of that you dare to question the 97% consensus of climate scientists you're funded by big oil yeah no matter if there's any shred of a proof of evidence of that of of course because I dare to question the 97% consensus that has been pointed at me kind of humorously there's a site the site the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to say. to say. to say. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the the the the the the the ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttte. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to dare to question the 97% consensus, that has been pointed at me, kind of humorously, there's a site, the Desmog blog that basically does this. Every time anyone questions anything, oh, they're funded by Big Oil. And I had a sort of sister website years ago called Climategate.

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Let's just call them funded by Big Oil or whoever. And you know, problem solved. We don't have to think about them ever again. Couldn't agree more. You see this a lot where if it's not one, it's not one the three-letter networks, websites, they don't agree with it. bankers.com like I'm supposed to believe that one but I mean like the history like the demonization of YouTube videos is got to be systematic it's got to be done by people and here I am calling people shills but you know it's like it's

got to be done because the history of mainstream media has been filled with so many lies over the years for people to defend that versus a guy making a YouTube video like the best video like the best video the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thean the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the lies over the years for people to defend that versus a guy making a YouTube video. Like the best video, what will it get like a 500,000 views, a million views, whatever that is? But you have these networks now that are only getting like a million views, but the amount of like propaganda they put out, why would you ever believe people who collect checks from like Rachel Meadows could never get a job that pays her what she gets paid right now

doing her show? Unless she became a power forward in the NBA and came out the bench, she's never going to get $8 million to do anything ever again. So why would you believe anything she has to say? When it's been proven over and over, this whole group are the same people sold us on weapons of mass destruction. We know that was a lie, okay? So why are we sitting there agreeing to us with whatever else they're saying to us, whether it's Russia Gay, or whatever's going on in Venezuela? There are people who show you, show you the patterns of thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the patterns thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thin.eeeate thiiiii. thi. thi thi, th's Russian gay or whatever's going on in Venezuela. There are people who show you, show you the patterns of these guys and you can watch it happen in real time.

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It's only killing the old mechanism and medium that we all know was completely corrupted by first Reagan, or probably Nixon, Reagan, then Clinton. They ruined it, and like I don't know why you still want to believe it when they've been caught lying over and over again. Well I think the YouTube thing is interesting because how many times have you found a good researcher on YouTube who made a really good video making a really good point and then you'll send it to somebody but like oh he's a YouTube and they just kind of you know it's like why why is this researcher on YouTube why can't his journalism be equal? Just look at the evidence, look at the information. And I mean, I know James has done a video on

on Nome Chomsky in the past about his, how he seems to ignore 9-11 quite a bit, and which is hilarious, because it's like he believes all this other thing, manufacturing consent, and he knows about Edward Bernays, and how the people are trying to influence the population and social control. But yet, you know, and he knows all the other war crimes that the U.S. has done, but 9-11 seems completely unbelievable. But the thing is...

And again, what do we do with that? Do you then throw away all of the valuable work that Noam Chomsky has done on issues that he is right about because he's wrong. So very, very wrong about a certain subject. Does that mean that we then throw out all of the actual information that he's given out over the years? Of course not. It means you use the information that's valuable and you discard what's not and you don't worship people. You look at information. And that's, again, maybe that's human nature. We want people. We want some savior. We want some person who is 100% right about everything that we can just listen to. Because that's the easiest way. Just listen to this person.

They're right about everything. You know, I live in Hollywood. And you know, the Me Too movement has basically been fostered here and I've been to shove down our throats out of here. You know, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've been that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's th. th. that's that's th. th. that's thee thean thean thean thean thean that's that's thean that's that's that's that's that's sigh op and there's my friends on the other side that have been the ones who have been very much into it. You know, for me I tell them it's like, dude we agree on 99% of stuff. We don't need to flame throw a friendship because we don't agree on one subject. And I say that to a lot of the liberal friends of mine, like you and I probably agree on most stuff except for like guns and Hillary Clinton. That doesn't mean our friendship of 15 years

needs to go out the door because we don't agree on one thing. I do not want to live in a world where I only am friends with people that agree with me. I would love all the information. And, to recovery, you know, I'm in recovery. And like, I've learned to like, there's, if you're wrong, you just, hey, man, I was wrong about that, dude, I admit it. Let's, you know, I'm gonna be out here, I'm gonna tell you, I was wrong about that.

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we disagree on. It's just a tiny little detail in this bigger thing that we all agree on. Yeah, 9-11 is a touchy topic because it showed how everybody fighting for the same thing can turn on each other. And it's amazing how 9-11, how that worked out. You saw people that would fight and argue over these details and it's like, does it really matter? Aren't we all fighting for the fact that there was a crime that happened, th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi thi. It thi. It's a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy, thi. It's a conspiracy, thi. thi. thi. thi. It's a the thi. thi. It's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. tou. togu. tou. togu. togu. togu. togu. tou. thea, togu. thea, thea, tou. the same thing, exposing the fact that there was a crime that happened, there was a conspiracy that happened, nobody went to prison, people died, and and there was a giant cover-up. And it's like, no, well, that's not important. Let's argue about did a plane hit the Pentagon or did a plane not hit the Pentagon. And it's like, and again, and again, we end up eating ourselves and just, it's... Do you think the JFK conspirators didn't learn anything from the reaction to JFK cover up?

Of course they did. And what's one of the main lessons is the intense territorialization of that field of study? So that now, I mean, every time I've ever had anyone on to talk about JFK, it's like stepping in a landmine field because someone will say something that someone else, some other researcher, oh no but that was debunked 37 years ago in this book by this person and so this person's a shill and they're probably working for the CIA, I'm gonna come on your program to refute what that guy said and it's just a big landmine and 9 11 11 it's to, 9 11. that's Jeff Morley, James Eugenio, and Russ Baker. And it's funny because I knew that there was going to be a lot of stuff they disagreed on, right? And if they weren't together talking and somebody couldn't say, hey, you know what, this is my perspective. It's amazing, because even there's things that, because Jeff Morley, like everybody kind of, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is.................. the, like, is.......... the, is.. the, is. the, the, is. the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. to 9-11. People, like I've had Lamar Waldron on

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You've kind of skewed it a little bit. But I think those type of discussions are really important. It's important to get people together who don't agree. I've had Ryan Dawson on my show. I disagree with him on some stuff too. And honestly, we talked about loose change and he's very opinionated about how he thinks it's like complete bullshit. And I'm like, wait, wait, and this is just my personal opinion, but I think even if some of the stuff in the film, you don't the film, thii. And th. But th. But th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to, to, to, to, to, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I I I I, to, to. And, to. And, they. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. And, toe. And, the. And, the. Like, and this is just my personal opinion, like I said, I've had Jason Bermas on, he was one of my first guests on the show. That film was so important because it planted the seed of doubt. And it, and it put, and it started the road down a rabbit hole where maybe you found James's work, maybe you found Ryan Dawson's work, maybe you find other people's work. And so I think it's not as important it's to say, hey, to say, and, to say, to say, the, and, the, the, the, that's not, th. And, th. And, thi, the thi, thi, thin, the thin, and, the thin, and, the they, thin, they, thi, they, they, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi thin, thi thi thin, the thi thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi's not as important to say, hey, you know, that was complete crap or that was complete crap and, and, you know, and kind of talk shit about it.

But I think it's much more important to say, hey, like, hey, if somebody puts out work, like we're all going to be wrong sometimes. I mean, we've done a lot of episodes, we're going to be wrong. you're gonna, if I went back and I had the tolerance, if I had the tolerance, if I had the tolerance, and I had the tolerance, and I had the tolerance, and I had to to, and I had to, and I had to, and I had to, and I had the tolerance, and I had the tolerance, and I had the tolerance, and I had to, and I had the tolerance, and I had the tolerance, and I had to, and I had to, and I had to, and I had, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, the tolerance, I had the tolerance, I had the tolerance, I had the tolerance, I had the tolerance, I had the tolerance, I had to to to to to told, I had to, told, to, to, I had, to told, and, I had to, and, and, I had did in the beginning of this podcast. I'm sure I would find a lot of my opinions that have transitioned in time and changed. Yeah, you're allowed to. Ryan Dawson's a very opinion-aid man. I'm sorry brood I'm he's not here to say that he's a very and he's done a lot of research but the end of the day you meet him. We all agree that it didn't go down the way it is so I mean I would never want he want to think that you know that we don't agree on this stuff he's passionate about that you know I'm passionate about that Michael Jordan's a better basketball player than Lebron James and I get super passionate and I get why he can get super passionate about that but the end of the day thi tho th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi the thi thi the the thi thi the thi thi the the thi thi thi the thi thi. thi. I the. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi. I thi thi thi thi. I thi thi. I thi thi. I thi thin the. the. the. to to to the. to the. to theee. thee. thee. theee. the. the. the. the. the.. But at the end of the day, we all have the same mission. I don't know if the mission is to expose the truth,

but just for me, it's more about, I like to, I think we're not conspiracy theorists, in my opinion, we're historians. And I think we talk about the unreported news from a historical standpoint. And we've kind of been labeled this conspiracy, this conspiracy, give people who don't want to hear what happened and out because things are going too good in their lives man. I like being in Hollywood I know a lot of these people who like are very venomably anti quote-unquote conspiracy and I think because deep downside you go well I believe this but they won't ever go on the record which is fine because things are going too good for them them them them the the the the the the the the to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to be to to to be to be. to be to be. to be to be to be. to be to be the the the to be. to be in. to be in a the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. to. the. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. to. the. the. the. I the. the go, well I believe this but they won't ever go on the record which is fine because things are going too good for them and if you sit there

and go some's going not means you're either participating in it or you got to stop what you're doing and start going, hey what's going on here or they have kids and they don't want to believe that they're bringing these kids into this awful world that's going on. And for me, I don't think it's an awful world. I think we have a small group of people who are the same people who have terrorized humanity over the millenniums. And I don't know if we'll ever stop them. I don't know if it's possible. You know, you said last time, James, that it doesn't have to be this like that. can all come together. I still have hope about that. But for us, us the conspiracy people, we're just historians. We're no different than someone who's an expert in Roman times, or, you know, in the medieval times,

it can tell you all the queens and all the kings. I don't think we're any different to that. We've just been labeled crazy people because we take truth to power and that scares some people or that's at least what they want us to think. That's my... Honestly, that, yeah, you bring up something that annoys me more than anything else. I get a lot of people, you know, in their day-to-day life, they may secretly have their specifisions or doubts, but they don't want to go out of the limb and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and out, blah, and out, and out, and out, and out, and out, and out, and I's, and I's, and I'm th and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I I I's, and I I I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I and I, and I and I and I, and I and I, and I, and I, and I and I, and I, and I, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm a, and I'm a, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin, th th th th th th thin, th th thin, and it and out on the limb and blah blah blah. Okay, I get it, but I've heard from people in journalism, journalists whose name people would know who come and say, you know, I appreciate what you're doing, thank you for doing it, but no, no, I'm not going to come on your show.

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And at the end of the day, I'm not saying I walk on water or anything, but I try to be true to people around me and I have a lot empathy for for people. I think we're missing a lot empathy and I think that's another thing about conspiracy theorists is like we're historians but we also see that there's people getting hurt and like if we we just can't sit around and co-sign on it man like I live in LA I look out my window right now I see palm trees and green trees and I go, what a wonderful time to be alive. And I know there's people in Yemen that were like, why was I born into this world?

And how my country that I pay taxes to, that I have to pay tax to or else I'll go to jail and they'll make an example of me, that if I don't pay taxes taxes ta, which is straight up thievery, you know, that they, an outside entities make me pay taxes to them, that I'm not even part of my government, so they can fund a war machine so they can have stormtroopers that are terrorizing people around the world. And that's hard to me. So the only thing I can do because people always go, what are you going to do about? I do the only thing I can do, which is shed light on to let people see what's really going on and hopefully something grabs root and sprouts and you can see it

happen in real time and that's to me the amazing thing about we do is when we see it happen in real time. You're like, oh I wasn't wrong. You know this whole thing about the FISA report and Russia Gate. We were all saying this before. Nothing's there, and not that Trump's a good guy at all. We don't think he's a good guy. But at this thing, on this issue, it's not real. It's a made-up thing. And because they can't go after him for what they really should be signed the checks make money off a war so they can't call them out on that and it makes me sad. Yeah I think empathy's a

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but I'm saying there's a lot, I mean like it's crazy like a horror movie it's some some theme you'd see in a horror movie but the stuff really happens like you know Seville which you did a great documentary or a short podcast documentary type thing on on on the Seville guy that the UK English guy who's friends with the royal family and only after he passed away did everybody speak up and say things and even the Penn State stuff I mean look at the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the Penn State stuff, I mean, look at the cover up there. You know, there's a, I believe a district attorney that went like missing and and all this stuff and he was a.

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you see those videos where nobody helps somebody on the ground, but the second that then gets picked up by other people? I mean, that's what it is and that's how it starts and yeah, ripple effect is a great name for it because that is exactly how it happens and that's what I talked about in that TSA video. That's also something that's really hitting home because of some of the research I'm doing right now on some of these roundtable groups and things from a century ago. And the point that keeps coming home is that these, you know, planners of the world, these conspirators to control everything, no, they really don't. What they do is seed ideas into the political discourse or into the popular discourse that they hope will flower and other people will start to pick them up and they can change the direction of society because of ideas. It is ideas that

guide history, not people, it's not people controlling every single thing that happens, it's controlling your mind and that's why ultimately I do think this is a positive and hopeful message. It's the solution that no one ever thinks of as a solution to no one that wants to hear. But the reason there is this concerted effort to propagandize every single person on the planet and they're putting all their money and effort and energy into feeding you false ideas is because it does matter. Ideas really do matter and if you see, if you break out of that narrative construct they've got you in, if you really can break out of that into something else, that is the real way of escaping the system.

And you, when you model that for other people, other people will start to pick up on that and model it too. We can change history. We can do this. This is something that can be done. It's a lot harder to do when we don't have the Bagellions of dollars and control over media and all of this sort of stuff But it can be done and especially in this little window of time where we still Average guys sitting in their living room still can reach millions of people how long will that last? I don't know, But at any rate it is here right now. This is an incredibly important time. I honestly believe if they weren't afraid of it, they wouldn't be trying to snuff it out.

All this alternative stuff on YouTube or all these other websites that are popping up. If knowledge was in power, they would let us do whatever they want. And the fact that I feel like more and more, like, especially with these false flags, if it's, if they, if they, if they, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, if their, if their, if they're, if they're, if they're, if they're, if their, if their their their thi, if they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their, if, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, if their, I their their their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, their, their, their, tha, tha, tha, thauaua, I tha, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm their, I'm their, their, in power, they would let us do whatever they want. And the fact that I feel like more and more, like, especially with these false flags that you've seen happen, whether you want to believe them or not, or what they really represent, I feel like they did a couple and they got no traction on it like they used to back in the day because there was a giant movement that explained why this isn't what you see it is and I think that was an interesting movement that actually this pushback is real and it scares them and when they're saying they're not going to do 9-11 videos or they're not going to do false remedy stuff and I know why they're not going to do false remedies stuff and I know why they won't do false remedies because they're

owned by big pharmaceuticals and they're only calling it false remedy because it's not one of their things makes me wonder what the other videos and why they're so angry about them. Regardless of what you believe in or not, you know there's a reason why they pick those select videos as this is what we're going to deal with. So we do have knowledge we do have power and we do have power, and like the more, I have, you know, me doing your guys' podcast is like such a blessing, you know, this whole show I'm just like, please don't let my vocabulary discuss James the whole time. I'm like, work at the

highest level I can't, so he doesn't, so he still wants to do shows with me, but you know when I bring in all these other guys from like I got the the block is hot and it's these two guys from Fulton, two black guys from Fulton's, Pamela Titch is coming in right now everybody. Pat Militag is about to join the end of the podcast. All right, goodbye everyone. We're about to wrap it up. the point is like I'm bringing all these other people on to the show and you know they have a different perspective but you know what you find more and more is that we all see basically the same thing and these people are going to go to their communities and their listeners and they're going to say hey these guys see like we do it. Now tribes are coming together and I'm like like like like like like like like like the the tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tries. tribe. tribe. tribe. tri. tri. tri. the th. the the tri. tri. th. th. th. thi. thi. I thi. thi. I thi. thi. I thi. th. I th. th. th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. the. the. to. the. the. the. thi. thi. th. thribes are coming together and I like when I do a show in LA I'm a look out it's predominantly Mexican Mexican and Mexican Americans and I'm

like wow because when you think a conspiracy theorist you think like look at the look who's on the screen right now white guys who you know right? Right and it's just like wow these are packed with Latino guys who believe it all and then when I do these other shows, that there's a lot black people at the show, and it's like, that lets me know that there's a big, big audience out there and that we're all starting to bring them together. And this scares people in my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, well, to throw Pat in here. We were talking about how people will disagree on one specific issue

and then complete disregard all their good research. The last time we did the swap cast, I would get people who are like, oh Pat seems like he defends Trump a little too much, this and that, you know, and I'm just like, what about all the other great work they do on the conspiracy farm? And I think that's another... I'm telling me to be quiet. Hard to do a pocket. I'm sorry. Hold on. Hashtag Daddy Life. Yeah, hashtag Daddy Life.

I love this. Yeah, it's a, well this is the, well this is one of the things where, you know, I try to censor my swearing once a while, but people know that these. I apologize. Like I said, I've got a sick five-year-old, so I apologize. My oldest daughter's taking care of her now. But yeah, what you were alluding to, people disagreeing on one point, we should all be able to disagree and move on and not see things a hundred percent, because, you know, you've got people that believe in Q, people that don't believe in Q, you've got people that back Trump, people their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, my th, my thi thi, my thi, my thiolest thi, my thi, my oldest thiolest, my thi, my thi, my thi, my my thi, my thi, my their their their their, my my my their, my their, my their, my their, my their, my the oldest, my the oldest, my the oldest the oldest the oldest tho, my thi, my thi, my thi, my thi, my oldest thi, my oldest thi, my oldest thi, thi, thiolest thiolou, thiolou, thiolou-a thiolou-a thiolou-a thiolou-a thiolou-augh, my oldest thiolou, my oldest thiol you've got people that believe in Q people that don't believe in Q you've got people that back Trump people that don't back Trump but everybody has a common threat of well we're getting a little weird on the globalist side of things to get a little obvious on the on some of the stuff they're pulling you.

Actually didn't Jason Burmiss he actually interviewed the people who started the whole Q thing. Would anybody follow up on that? Anybody see that video? Well, I've just known that like every two weeks another person comes out and says they started Q and it goes kind of back to what James is talking about that article he puts out. You can say whatever you want about Q and I'm fine if you say it's not real or it's real. But all I know is I got I got information from there that I didn't get from the mainstream media Which was North Korea Facebook the Pfizer report and a lot of stuff So whatever that represented I don't know I can't you know I don't believe they're gonna allow something like that to roam freely without taking it like slicing and dicing it and impersonating it. I don't think that whatever it was or whatever it is, I got information that I never got

from the mainstream media about like a bunch of stuff that was going on. So again, it goes back to what James was saying. It's like, yeah, you may not like all of it, but within this, you know, a broken clock's right twice a day. So, you know, we could sit there and there and there and there and there and there and we can there and there and we can th and th and we could th and th and we could thi and thi, thi, we could thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. than, than, thin, thin, th th th th th th th th th th th to th to to th to th to th to to thi. th thi. thi. th thi. there and go I got a little information from this that wasn't good from everybody else. Again you got to take what information you can verify and then the other information that you can't verify there is always going to be that and what do you do with it and that's going to be your personal determination you know

to what extent you trust this but always we should try to demarcate what we can actually verify versus what we cannot verify and keep those things in our minds because you might have to revise those things that you can't verify for yourself. And I'm fine with that. I mean, I never plant my flag in anything. I think you're if you play flag in something, you something you're just gonna spin off in control It's like here's what here's why things going on. Let's see how it plays out and but nothing is 100% And it's just like you know for me you just showed more more ethics and more honesty than all of mainstream media combined on the Jesse Smollett attack, dude. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

They want that so bad to be real. Everybody pushed back and now you see all these guys on Twitter going, we knew it wasn't real. I'm like, well, then why do you say anything? Why did you let this thing fester and become a race war between militant blacks and militant whites who want to start fights with each other. Why the middle is just like, dude, this is disgusting either way. Even if it happened or this guy's lying.

It's a disgusting about though. I don't think that's what it was about. Sure, there's the automatic division that's going to happen if they never proved that it wasn't true, thank God for the Chicago police professionalism and unwinding this whole thing. But what it was about was Mrs. Harris and Mr. Booker passing a law, an anti-linching law against the LGBT community, because it was just to drum up votes and support. That's all it was. That the whole thing was was orchestrated in my mind exactly

the way it went down and they had a bill ready to go. They already passed it. Yeah it's gross man and again we with these false flag stuff and we just allow people to I want to know how come we have Congress in the Senate that has a lifetime appointment if they can just keep getting reelected, yet we have mayors that can only do eight years and state senators who only do eight years, but yet at this highest level,

they can go on until they die. And we just, and we, which we we don't like when Diana Feinstein or Barbara Boxer or any of these people get reelected after scandal where it's where I've been questioned whether elections are at all real. So think about this Sam think about this so they tried to get me to run for US Senate. That's one step below the president for God's sake. I was a professional fighter. But the state of a lot of people, a lot of pretty big name, GOP people, were starting to jump on board and I saw kind of the process that I didn't really like, you know, the people

that were going to be paying the bills. But if I ran for Congress or U.S. Senate, you know how how I would win 100 percent? How? That I that I that I that I thi that I th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. thi thi thi th. thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the th. I the. I the. I the. the. the. the. theate. the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to? How? That I would promise to kick the shit out of everyone when I arrived. Who filled me in 100%. Ha ha ha. I would like to watch that dude. You versus Lindsay Graham would be a- I think the jail time would be worth it. Yeah, sure. You know, we need a hero, Pat. You're our hero, dude. You're a hero. In fact, you come in at the end of a podcast, like a champion. Like, you're gonna break me out of prison after I do it? For sure, dude. You're just winning the end of the rounds at the last 10 seconds by throwing a bunch of punches. I respect that. I've wound up. I've been wound up off the night on a lot of stuff. So, yeah. Sorry to come in so late though, I apologize.

It's fine. It's fine, dude. We're happy you even made it, dude. Better late than ever. What's your opinion on the Venezuela thing, Pat? You, you think it's are you, it's a combination of, I think it's a combination of, you know, when Chavez was in power, strong armament, and taking over the oil industry and doing that sort of stuff that you know, you know, wants government to take over private industry. Nobody loves, nobody loves big oil either. But, you know, you know, I never, never informed big government getting bigger like that and taking over industries and everything else. But But obviously the people in Venezuela were also eating their family pets because we had some pretty harsh, some pretty harsh blockades on them, you know, so we're just we're definitely, we're definitely very responsible for a large amount of the suffering and it's, it's, you know, my buddies that are all former military guys every one of them that I've talked to you know they were saying this easily a year ago saying don't go into Venezuela don't go into

Venezuela you know damn good and well we've already got radio stations set up the CIA's already got radio stations set up on the border of Columbia. And they're they're transmitting a message into Venezuela to all the people. They're doing all kinds of stuff. So I love your haunted door you have in the background, James. That was fun to listen to the spirits. Well for me dude, it's like the eating of the pets is a direct reaction, direct reaction from us and these in trade embargoes, these sanctions, and you know, it's like, I get that people don't like socialism, and I'm fine with that. But we already have socialism, and it's rich people's socialism.

It is the bailing out of the banks, it's the military, it's the police, it's thing. It's like, like health like health like health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health health, it's their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the military, it's the police, it's thing, it's like health care for all these politicians for life. So this notion that we hate socialism is just disgust me and I understand what Pat's saying about big government, but you know what, I'd rather the people of the country get part of their oil and their resources that are under their land than these war pigs who are constantly stealing everybody's milkshakes, man. And it's just like, I don't know how this Venezuela government having their oil is worse than these guys who've committed atrocities, atrocities that have been blanketed and gift wrapped as humanitarian efforts of the slaughter of

like, Millie, I mean, like, dude, we, I mean, like, can anyone tell me, are we not the new Nazis? Are we not the new Nazis? How they mean? What do you mean new? Or like, we're just a branch of it, right? we're a continuation, man? Or whatever it is, like, we're just, we're just a new phase of it. It's just, I. the, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I mean, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, we. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, we, we, we, we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, like, like, we're just a new phase of it where and it's just like it just I mean like listen man pushing our ideology on other people and it's it's no and we're invading everybody and we did it all over the world it's amazing how how people will like we talked about in the beginning of the podcast about communism you know we did it all over Central America in South America we did all over the world like using that as a justification to get to get to get to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be. to be. to be. the the to be. the th. the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. did it all over the world, like using that as a justification to get involved. And if a country wants to be run, using a different ideology, if a country decides, I mean, there's tons of socialist countries, you know, we're not invading all of them, you know,

it's like we're picking and choosing. You know, Venezuela just happens to have the biggest oil reserve and and I believe like the Koch brothers are owed a bunch of money too and all this other stuff. So it is, you know, it is one of those things where I think that's going to show up. You might as well tell us Sam because I think that that's going to show up on the video. It just said I got to leave in a few. But yeah, but it's all right. So I think I I I I I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I think I think I think, I think, I that is, I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. It is, you th. It is, you is, you is, you is, you is, you is, you is, you is, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It is, I th. th. th. It is, I th. It is, I th. It's, I th. It's, I th. It's, I th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, that. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th i think i think you know using these i mean every country the people should should have the right to run their country any way they want uh... it's no outside influence should decide or dictate that no you know it's it's no different than a socialist country if it had a huge military decide that hey this country is capitalist then we don't like

the way that you know we don't like capitalism because we think it's evil let's invade them so you know I do think that's the way I and here's the way I see that is the people never get a chance to decide luckily we have a constitution that's been it's been you know people been wiping their asses with it for many years but if if we if we held our leaders to you know the same the same level of constitutionalism that th people people people people people people th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th the th th th the th the the th the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their the way the way the way their their their their their their their their their the way the way the way their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they their the way their the way the way the, the same level of constitutionalism that people many, many, many years ago did, there'd be a lot of dead politicians. But isn't the constitutional? You know, so for me, for me, it's, it comes down to, it comes down to, democracy scares the shit out of me, because when you got 51% who tell you that you have to do something, like vaccinate your kids, you know, like, you've, like, you've, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, their, their their their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.eeee thi.e thi. thi. thee, thi. thee, thi, thi, thi, their, th because when you got 51% who tell you that you have to do something like vaccinate your kids you know like you've got pay into this you've got to pay into that Obamacare alone look I get it there's a lot of sick people that don't have medical care I get it but you know what I'm

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they're robbing from one and giving to the other, right? And we see that happening more and more and more and it creates this, this, it does, it creates some some animosity between citizens of, hey man, I'm barely getting by, I got taxes coming up, I'm scrambling to pay my taxes. And you guys are, you guys are robbing me at every turn, but yet there's people out there that, you know, my first example of this is I was struggling, I had a rusty truck sitting out the parking lot.

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I don't know if you've guys seen this new thing that's going on in the United States, but if you get a wheat card you cannot carry a gun. In a lot of states, that's the truth, yeah. What do you guys take on that? It's fucking stupid. How is that legal? I can go buy as much whiskey as I want and carry a gun. It's so... I know a kid I just went to school with

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then creating these, what we're basically creating these robots who go to a factory and do the same thing every day and don't have I tell you. Yeah. I don't. I see how I see how this is viewed from, you have to think like an evil elitist when you when you envision how how they would engineer society with with AI running everything, there's no need for us anymore, right? There's no need for us anymore. So that just remove as many human beings from the face of the earth as you can and the elitists just hang out and do their thing wherever they want, right? And excuse me, and that's not even remotely a stretch. Look, I mean, if I could have 5,000 acres to myself in Montana right now, if I had the money to do it, I'd do it. And I particularly care to, you know, unless I really want to, see any human beings.

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And there no reason to farm us anymore, dear. Yeah, I think it's an interesting topic. Well, maybe we'll save it for the next one, because I think, you know, UFC is on ESPN and we have some sports fans on this pocket. I know I want to see the, that fight and I know the all-star games going on now. I was actually, I don't even the all the all the all the all the all the all the all the all th- I have th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm th- I'm thirty- I'm thirty- I'm thirty- I'm thirty- I'm going-I-I-I-I-I-I-up-upe-upe-upe-upy-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ooooo-s. ta-s. I'm ta-s. ta-s. t-s. I'm-s. I'm t- don't even watch MMA unless I'm calling advice, man. Really? Hey, I can't have that. I love it. It's a great time to be alive, man. It's a great time to be alive. But I think that's a interesting conversation because I think we all might have different opinions on the whole,

how do you, you know, because we know that without a doubt that's the road we're going down. Machines in time are going to end up taking jobs. How do you create a world that exists when this capitalistic machine only works if you have people working to make money to buy shit and this just in this vicious cycle, you know. So it is interesting. I mean because I'm not sure there is a answer but I think sharing ideas and discussing it would be interesting because, you know, I think I'm far from from knowing where I stand on it. Well, I think it's gonna be interesting. All I know in the Terminator movies, there were no Rothschilds. Right? The Terminators didn't, we're cool with lizard people. So whatever it is, they better wake up because if it comes for us, it will come for them too. So, I mean, that's just the truth. I, who knows, man, but I look forward to that conversation.

I love having these conversations. Everybody on this conversation, I have nothing but the utmost respect to you. the upmost respect tho, the up. the up. the up. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the upmost. I will. I will. I will. I'll, the up most most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up most, the up. I'll, the up. I'll, the up. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I, the up most most. I. I, the up most most most most most. I. I. I. I will. I will. I'm, the up most, the up most most most, the upmost. the upmost. tops. tops. tops. today. today. today. today. today, today, the upmost. the upmost. the upmost. I will. the fact that you allow me to do this with you guys means the world to me. I respect all your projects and all the past you put out and how hard you get work at just putting all this out and man it's it's just always a pleasure to do this and we should always keep doing it as long as everybody's available and our fans all love it. Yeah, I think it's a good example of practicing what we preach. We talked about how it's important to share ideas and have your ideas challenged and talk to people you don't always agree with and we do it. We do it in a civil manner. We all, you know, we don't always agree, but we're willing to share our ideas and have our ideas challenged. And I think that's

how we grow. I mean, I'm sure we're all podcasters. We've all grown from our podcast conversations and many of our conversations we've had throughout our lives. And I think it's important to do this. Not just talk to people you agree with, but definitely talk to people you don't agree with. Because sometimes they shine light on a perspective, you know, you've never even entertained and it really changes the way you look at things. So I think we're all, you know, having these type of conversation and showing that they can happen and and happen in a civil manner is super important to people because I think a lot of times every conversation just turns into argument and nobody ends up agreeing with anybody and it's just, you know, it's just basically defending your team. So I think there's hope when you see that these type of conversations can't happen. You know why I should come to Japan and we can have this conversation in real life sometime. I can't wait. I'm there. I'm booking a ticket right now.

Yeah, plus we'll stick out. They'll know that we're Americans or at least not from Japan. So, you know, they'll get us some extra female attention I hear. It doesn't hurt. But thanks guys, I really, really appreciate it. You know, like Sam said, let's keep doing these things. Hopefully Pat will have, hopefully your daughter's all right, because I know how tough household is when one of the kids get sick. It goes around the whole house and then it's with them and then the other child and the parents and it kind of, you know. Well, I'm trying to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay to stay the healthy the healthy the healthy the healthy the healthy thiii. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. the. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. the. th. thi. th. th and then the other child and the parents and it kind of yeah well I'm trying to stay healthy let's put it that way so but yeah thanks again

for let me jump in here guys late and all yeah you're the best Pat you really brought it home money you're not a dessert you're the dessert games everybody everybody thank you guys guide guys guys take care take care tba bye guys. Take care. Take care. Take care. Bye. Take care. Bye.