Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #204: Iran with Robbie Martin

Episode Date: June 25, 2019

Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome Media Roots Radio's Robbie Martin to discuss the Deep States desperate attempt to drag the United ...States into with Iran. Thank you to our sponsors: Blue Chew; Right now, we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code HAT -- Just pay $5 shipping. Again, that’s B - L - U - E - CHEW dot com, promo code HAT to try it FREE. AbsoluteXracts: Check out our sponsors at ABX.org! They are the Nike of weed and have everything you might need to get lit as f@ck! BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. We have big shows coming please check them dates out: June 25th: AbsoluteXtracts present the Comedy Chaos July 6th: The Rec Room in Huntington Beach

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:31 That's some interdimensional mindex. Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? You know what? Yeah, I am. You know what I'm here to do.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah, I appreciate you guys. Obviously, you see there's no XG here. We were having some studio problems. So we just flew in from Skankfest and I just told XG to go home because he's tripping on acid. So I'm like, stay home. Stay home. We don't need a Mexican on acid in the room, tripping in bilingual languages, okay? So I said stay home and we had a great time. To everybody who came to Skank Fest, you are wonderful people. It is a wonderful festival. If I had to live in a world of Skankfest, I would be there. It is hard to tell people that you were just at a festival called Skankfest, but if they
Starting point is 00:01:39 were there, they would love it. A lot of controversy with Louis CK going on. Me personally, man, I think thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, I thi, I thi thi thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi, it is thi, it is thi, thi, thi, it is thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi thi, thi thi thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they would love it. A lot of controversy with Louis CK going on. Me personally, man, I think people deserve second chances. I know I've been given second, third, third, and fourth chances in my life. As far as I know, he didn't physically sexually assault anybody. He didn't murder anybody, he didn't molest any children. He didn't, you know, physically abused anybody. So in my, everyone deserves a second chance. He lost pretty much everything and the fact that people are flipping out and putting this guy in Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein's thing is just ridiculous to me.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Those are my statements, not that of my guest today, so I just want to get that clear. The next big show will be, we have Tuesday night, tomorrow night is comedy chaos live at the comedy store 1030 show only $20 we got both the fighter and the kid Doug Benson Jessam A Paluso Eddie Bravo flat earth Bravo will be there. And, uh, Jackie Fabulous. It's only 20 bucks, man. It is a two hours of power, come down and rock. Okay, it's gonna be a good time. $20 tickets, come get them now.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 It's all because you guys and I'm very thankful to everybody, both the guys and all the smoke shows that watch the show. You are all gorgeous. I'm always shocked when I see how attractive you are and you listen to the show. So a lot of great things are going on. I want to thank Lauren Petrie and my good friend Reed Becker for doing SkankFest with us.
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Starting point is 00:05:07 And that is the business at hand. Today we didn't know it was going to happen again because we're having a problem with the headphones, but the podcast God's made it happen, and I'm very blessed. We are welcoming, the show. One of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter. Him and his sister are truly the the force of good. They're doing the Lord's work, they're telling the truth even when it's not popular. He is the host of Media Roots Radio. My good friend and yours. Robbie Martin. How are you, Robbie?
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm doing great, Sam. Thanks for having me on again. No problem, man. No problem. I love it. I'm like, we're like a kind of a weird like comedy, like a comic, like a cop duo. Like, you play by the book and I can't read. And together, we fight crime in San Francisco. By the way, we're gonna be in Sam Fran, September 13th at Cobbs.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I would love for you to come out as our guest. Brad, oh, I would love to, man. That'd be awesome. So real quick, tell them where they can find your podcast real quick. Robbie. Best place to find it, just on all the major podcast platforms, iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher, whatever the hell else is out there right now. But iTunes is probably the best way.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I hate promoting Apple, but you know, it's the best way to get it. You can subscribe to it, you can rate it there. So, yeah. What is your take on all the censorship. I know that there maybe you know necessarily agree with philosophically. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the censorship? I know that there's some people out there that maybe you know necessarily agree with philosophically, but what is your take on the whole de-platforming, all that stuff? Oh, I mean, I have a, I have a lot to say about it, but I'll try to encapsulate my opinion to something brief. I mean, I live in Silicon Valley.
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Starting point is 00:07:50 threat on platforms like YouTube. So my whole take on it is this goes, this goes much broader than just the idea of conservative thought being marginalized or censored online. I think that it is actually coming for us all. You know, anyone who's involved in independent media who does stuff that big corporations in the state doesn't like. So I guess that's my kind of... I would say that your sister and her, the website news that got wiped off the internet
Starting point is 00:08:19 for a while, was, isn't conservative at all. If not, she's like super progressive left and they wiped her off and they painted as conservatism but what really it is is truth to power. And they pick these little things to make you hate certain people and they could do with anybody. I mean, they could pick any group of people and try to demonize you by twisting kind of reality to make everybody push you off.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So these people kind of demand that you do lose your YouTube channel when based off of phony information and stuff like that. And it is all truth to power. We see with Julian Assange getting arrested and thrown into jail and, you know, people in the community like myself just like wanting to believe that there's some thrown into jail and people in the community like myself. Just like wanting to believe that there's something out there that's really going on. I hold out hope not because I want my credibility to be saved, but because I really just hope that Julie the Sange will be okay. And when I had Alex Jones in my studio and he was constantly quoting Wikileaks and
Starting point is 00:09:26 everybody who follows him and they're not an uproar and there is a lot of people going crazy who are considered from the right about Julius Hock but there isn't a giant uproar from both sides when we get mad at Acosta being kicked out of or a, is that his name Ac Casa or Casa whatever kicked out of the White House Press briefings and everyone's like the press and then when this guy gets thrown in jail and it's just unbelievable to me it's so obvious that it's truth to power especially when we all are meant to believe that WikiLeaks is a reason why Trump got elected. Yeah I mean I mean just on the Alex Jones issue for a second, the idea that he was censored or that he was banned because of quote-unquote hate speech from his side, I mean, that argument
Starting point is 00:10:17 doesn't hold water when you look at the fact that Fox News is, you know, no one's talking about censoring them. It's not like, you know, his opinions in terms of like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the talking about censoring them. It's not like you know his opinions in terms of like right-wing ideas that he spreads are any more extreme than the stuff that comes out on Fox News. So there's clearly something else going on here and I think underlying all this it really is the people and power are so desperate to cling on to their power that they're losing that they're essentially willing to do a scorched scortscscscscscscscscscscched scscched scscched scsced. the the the to their power that they're losing, that they're essentially willing to do a scorched earth strategy and ruin the idea of free speech and free and open exchange on the internet for everybody,
Starting point is 00:10:53 to cling to their power. That's how desperate they are to hold on to it. So I think that that's where we're heading towards. And I mean, it started with the idea of fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake a problem, now it's, you know, hate speech being a problem. I mean, all these things, they're all working towards the same goal. And you know, I'm a guy very much on the left. I believe the concept of hate speech is real,
Starting point is 00:11:17 but I'm not one of those people who wants it banned from the internet at all. I mean I think that you know the First Amendment in this country is still very important. So it's yeah it's a really big problem and it's going to affect everybody from the left and the right. So I think that's the way we need to be looking at it. I also think that there's a lot of people that are disguising themselves as liberals when really they are rich kids sitting there in positions of entertainment entertainment the thame the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their rich kids sitting there in positions of entertainment power like when we consider the Hollywood elites you know disguised as artists but really just the children of the elites who parents made money and the things that these videos are railing against and how they push this like we got to get rid of
Starting point is 00:12:05 hate hate is bad hate is this but what they don't realize that there was a time when the people that they so protect which women gays ethnics minorities who I love and support where those groups were the were the targets of the mainstream censorship meaning it was right to left I say it all the time. the times the time. the th th th th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they don't they they don't they they their their their their their their their their their their their their they don't they don't they don't they don't they they they they the were the targets of the mainstream censorship, meaning it was right to left. I say it all the time, the book burning. You know, it's like if you read this book, it was against God and they would burn those books if you were gay or you want to get married, that was the sin. Interracial dating, something that we see all the time in commercials that corporate America uses to sell their products. At one time that was seen as taboo and they were like white women who would be dating black men who
Starting point is 00:12:54 were just like completely ostracized from their community because they just fell in love with somebody that was they weren't as supposed to be with because that was unnatural and unholy. And I tell people, it's like, regardless of what you think of guns or not, I'm very much pro-gun only because I read history and I see like the countries that take away guns, what happens after that. And in particular, I would ask everybody to look at like China, Russia, both had population had guns, take it away, mass slaughter after, and this is my opinion, this isn't Robbie, so if you don't
Starting point is 00:13:29 like it, come at me, is that mass slaughter and then look how they treat women, see how they treat gays, see how they treat ethnic minorities. It's not pretty at all. Am I saying it's directly related guns? No, but that is a factor because the population can't push back. Because one side has the guns, one side doesn't. That's all I'm saying. I don't want guns for violence. I just, I want guns because I'm watching all this stuff with the yellow vest right now in France and I'm seeing one side as guns, one side doesn't.
Starting point is 00:14:03 When I look at North Dakota in the pipeline, one side has guns, one side doesn't. And that's all I'm saying. I don't like gun violence. One gun violence. One gun violent, death is one too many. But there is a reason that we had that. And that's my opinion. That is not Robbie. I would never put words into his mouth. Those are mine. Timfoylipol th. th. th. th. th. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thine. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thi. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I. Ia. I's. I'm. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. gotten a black eye, Robbie? I can't remember the last time I have Sam. I mean yeah but I definitely have probably not since high school. It's very weird when you're a grown man people want to know why you got a black eye and then when you tell them the real reason that these are the two reactions. Oh my god are you okay. second up you need you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to the to to the to the to to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to th. the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. te. te. te. tell. tell. try. te. tell. toda. try. I. I te. I te. Oh my god, are you okay? Second up, you need a better story.
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Starting point is 00:15:57 Today we are talk and the false flags that they are trying to do to get us into yet another war. Rob, what is your first take on this whole thing? Did we see this coming? Is it, I mean are we surprised by this? I mean I'm not surprised by it at all just based on what I've been kind of looking at since Trump got in office but I think the one thing that's interesting about this that I have even experienced on like a visceral level is just almost this fatigue of constantly feeling like we've been to thi. the teards some kind of war with Iran since 9-11. Like it just seems like that was the so-called the prize of the neocons at the end of all this.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And it's been almost 20 years, and it's only been very recently that this is sort of escalated to a whole new level where it actually seems like we're very, very close to a war in a way that we haven't been, maybe, I don't even know if it's been since 9-11. I can't remember another time since 9-11 where we were this close to a confrontation with Iran. So my take on it is, this has been a long time coming. We should have expected that this would happen eventually, and that the neocons and the military industrial complex would sort of figure out a way or try to create a pathway to get us into war. The part that immediately sort of was strange to me though is that the
Starting point is 00:17:40 pathway they've created seemed really sloppy and not very convincing and effective to get the people and the public to go along with it. So that part was kind of threw me up. I'm thinking well they're being really aggressive and belligerent on one hand and then the other hand they're not really doing the best job to try to sell this to people. So I you know and I I don't know if that's just indicative of the, of how Trump runs his administration, if he's just not very competent to deliver these effective narratives or if it means something else. I really, I couldn't tell you, but, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. to do with Robbie, kind of about what we were just talking about, to open the show about how they're not, I.... And, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is is th, th is th is just, th is just, thi, thi, this, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is just just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi, thi, show about how they're not really going after
Starting point is 00:18:26 the conservatives are going after truth of power and that there is now so much evidence proven over time that with straight up facts evidence emails photos whatever history that you know this is a playbook that's done and we are we're in eight was it 2001 it's 2009 18 years of perpetual war and this is a playbook that they constantly use over and over and over again absolutely I mean it's and and it's to me it's just kind of bizarre that this time it was also another you know ship that was supposedly attacked but it wasn't a US ship so it was like they were trying to get us outraged you know in the past
Starting point is 00:19:20 what you're mentioning in the past is they would try to get us outraged over attacks on U.S. personnel or attacks, domestic attacks inside the United States. But this was an attack that was on two different foreign oil tankers, and they expected us to, I guess, get outraged over that. So, I don't know, just kind of seems like they're not really trying very hard. And even the idea that people are going to get so upset over shooting the drone down, which is the most recent thing that happened, just doesn't seem to hold water either. Like, I mean, you have to, you've got to try a little harder guys to get people into this. So, I think it's a combination of what you're talking you're you're you're you're you're thia thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. thi. throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thi. th of what you're talking about. People are so aware of how many false flag attacks have been done to try to get us into war.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And simultaneously, this attempt to actually get us into war is not a very good attempt. So those two things are happening at once. I agree with that. Basically, a false flag, if you go to Wikipedia page, is a covert operation designed to deceive. The deception creates an appearance of a particular party group or nation being responsible for activities disguises and actual, disguising the actual source of the responsibility. The term false flag originated and referred to pirate ships that flew the flags of countries as a disguise to prevent the victims from fleeing or preparing for battle. Sometimes a flag will remain and the blame for the attack would be badly laid incorrectly or on another country.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So that's based on what we're seeing. What countries, countries either perpetrate the attack or through their media tells the population that they were attacked by the quote unquote bad guys, which is a very classic thing from 1984. They talk about that in 1984. And if you go out there and you Google proven false flags, you'll get something from global research which says 53 proven, proven cases of false flags and they will break down so many times false flags were used it, Japanese used it all the time, Nazis again, Soviets used it, the Russians used it,
Starting point is 00:21:44 the Russians used it, the British used it, Israel's used it, the time. Ah, Nazis again, Soviets used it, the Russians used it, the British used it, Israel's used it, the CIA's used it, the Turkish people. I mean, like, we're looking at people who were just straight up empires, using it over and over and over again. And it's just, it's kind of sad, man, because it makes me wonder if, like, if any war is started because two groups really get into it. Or is it that the power elites want to make money or want more land, more power, so they have to fake this fight to get the population behind it? It makes me kind of sad, because I don't't I don't think human beings really want war.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I think human beings just really want to live, love, you know, laugh at a fart joke, get laid once and a while, have a beer and just enjoy their family. And we have, we kind of get our emotions abuse through this patriotic stuff being told that we got tied the the hate our freedoms man the hate our freedoms I'm like I remember when he said I go if they hate freedom so much why aren't they bombing the fuck out of Amsterdam you should you could get a hooker and heroin in a meal deal out there why are they going after up it's like kind of crazy right there. Why are they going after all? It's like kind of crazy, right? Well, I mean, it's obvious bullshit.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I mean, the whole thing you're talking about is people inherently don't want war. I mean, who wants war unless you have some kind of direct personal reason, like someone, you know, bombed your home and you want to fight back against those people. There's very few people and situations where you actually want war. So I mean, the idea of a false flag attack in a lot of these scenarios, it was, if you look at it, zoom out from it. In most of these scenarios, like look at the Gulf of Tonkin example, it was the spark that basically, you know, created the escal or created the escalation for it to explode into a bigger war. So what would have happened in these historical incidents had those false flag attacks not
Starting point is 00:23:53 been used to try to create that spark, you know, maybe there would have been some diplomacy to sort of ease the tensions, you know, and I think in a lot of the times the people who want to do these so-so-so-so-so-f false-f false-f false-f false-f false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false false the their their their their the tensions, you know, and I think a lot of the times the people who want to do these so-called false flag attacks, their goal is to essentially accelerate things and make it impossible for diplomacy at that point. Because before, before these sparks happen, you know, there's a potential there for maybe there can be a de-escalation of this, but what this these false flags attack often do is they make that completely impossible because we've moved you know sort of beyond a tipping point. Once everybody's outrage that the Vietnamese you know from a little boat shot us, shot a torpedo at us apparently, that's all we needed to believe that there was no reason to try to negotiate or deescalate these things and it was our right to essentially decimate their population. So and with Vietnam brought up the Gulf of Tonkin I mean the lie that was perpetrated to us was we had to stop the domino effect of
Starting point is 00:24:54 communism. Well what people didn't realize is that I correct me if I'm wrong but Vietnam is communism right now but communists now, but Vietnam and China hated each other. They were never going to work together. They've always had that, they did not have a good relationship. So the effect of China being able to basically bring them into their group was never real thing. And then we've had gas come on in the past and they told us that. Vietnam really was about Vietnam's Golden Triangle,
Starting point is 00:25:28 which is their heroin poppy fields. And where we heard that again, that come up again, in Afghanistan, where we were sold on that the Taliban were these, they funded 9-11 and all this stuff. And, you know, but what they didn't tell us is that the Taliban had basically banned opium and they destroyed the poppy fields and you know big pharmaceuticals didn't like that so what a great reason to go in to Afghanistan and now you know I I say it's on stage and you know I get some weird reaction to but it's true but when I hear people say I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to help drug addicts. Guess. th. th. their their their th. their their th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi. thi. thi. And thi. And they's thi. And thi thi thi. And thi. And thi thi. And thi. And thi. And thi thi thi. And thi thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi's thi's thi's thin. And thin. And thin. And thi's thi's thi's they. And they's thi's they've thi. hear people say, I don't want my taxpayer dollars going
Starting point is 00:26:05 to help drug addicts, guess what? Your taxpayer dollars are already doing that because your taxpayer dollars pay for the troops that guard the poppy fields in Afghanistan because the Taliban hate opium and they want to burn those fields down. And I'm not saying the Taliban are good people. We know how they treat women and that's disgust or that's how we're told they treat women. And that's disgusting. But make no doubts about it. We are guarding poppy fields. And it's the same thing with Vietnam. Have you ever heard of Operation Northwood? Robbie? Absolutely. That's the classic, man. That's um yeah I have heard of Operation Northwoods. I mean it was it was proposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Starting point is 00:26:52 under John F. Kennedy. There's a record of it being rejected by Robert McNamara who was I believe acting as his Defense secretary at the time. And in this document, it was essentially proposing many different false flag style scenarios in order to validate or justify some kind of attack on Cuba directly. And probably the most infamous one was the idea of filling a plane full of people, presenting them as some kind of sports team or soccer team, something like that. They were supposed to go to some art festival or something like that. Yeah, I don't know the details of who they were going to fill the plane with,
Starting point is 00:27:40 but they were going to fill it with real people, give them all fake personas and names I guess. That's not really explicitly written out in there, but they do talk about how they're going to fly this plane in the air, passenger plane, replace it in mid-air with a drone and shoot down the drone with a plane with a plane that had Cuban markings on it, essentially creating a false flag attack making it look like Cuba, Cuban jet shot down this plane. And in the document, one of the most amusing parts about it is they say that the fake deaths of all these passengers could help create a quote, helpful wave of righteous indignation to get us into war with Cuba.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So they, I mean, they completely understand, you know, this is back in the, this is I think 1964, this happened maybe, or maybe later. They completely understand that, you know, how effective killing a whole plane full of civilians to be making it, like Cuba did it. And probably one of the most troubling parts of the document, this is something that conspiracy debunkers have tip tip tip tip tip tip to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, thi, th. th. this is, this is, this is, this is, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiii. thiiii. thiii. this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a the document, this is something that conspiracy debunkers have ignored. A lot of sort of like conspiracy debunker types, like I think even Michael Schermer had a
Starting point is 00:28:51 look over on this document and said, you know, it's not really saying they're going to do anything actually violent. They're just going to create these hoaxes. But no, that's actually not true. In the document, they talked about attacking Guantanamo Bay with people who are working for America, dressed as Cuban soldiers, mortaring, shooting, basically the perimeter of Guantanamo Bay, putting the lives of American soldiers at risk, potentially killing some. And then probably the craziest part of the whole document is it goes into a vaguer section that's not really explicit on exactly what they're going to do, but they do suggest terrorist, domestic terrorist campaigns in Miami, in major downtown parts of Miami, that included bombings,
Starting point is 00:29:41 to make it look like pro-Castro Cubans did it. And so these were all real things proposed, they're on paper, you could look up the document. It's actually one of the only things on paper that we have to show and to prove that people in the government are like proposing these types of false flag scenarios. We can imagine that it's probably been, you know, being done constantly behind the scenes, but this is one of the only actual pieces of hard evidence that we have that this happens. I'm going to say something I've said before, again my words not Robbies, I think when you talk about a big production, hey we're going Cuba, you know, put something in the air. I was told either they were going to land it and then send another play out, but maybe
Starting point is 00:30:28 they switched in the air. Another plane goes, big scene, and everybody's like, oh my God, they're attacking us. I mean, there's a lot of similarities to 9-11. It really is. We were told these planes we're going to take off. We were told that, and they're making calls from a plane when that technology is not even possible. There's been research that some of those calls were pinged from the ground. We're told these were planes they were supposed to take off. That's what we're told.
Starting point is 00:31:04 You know, remarkably, you have a couple celebrities who were they're supposed their their their their their their their their to take off. That's what we're told. You know, remarkably, you have a couple celebrities who are supposed to be on the plane, who didn't go on the plane and have remarkably gone on to amazing careers, multiple different mediums of success, television movies, singing damn whatever, across the board. You know, that's what we're told, and they're flown into this building and you know there's people who say that didn't have any commercial painting on it or anything like that I mean it sounds like so much of I might talk in 9-11 I talk in Operation Northwood and it's just like this is a continuation of what we've seen.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You know, we talk about it on here. It's like lizard people. I'm not saying they're lizard people. And I don't want Robbie be like, what? Show am I on right now? But it's like the cycle pass that don't have any creativity. You know, they're just not creative. So they just keep using this game plan over and over and over until it doesn't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And you know, so now we got this thing, boom, we go into 9-11. The country's gone crazy. The world is behind us. They love us. And when you just think about it, man, if that was a false flag and that was an inside job, which I will say with a hundred percent, I, Sam Tripoli, believe this, that they knew that they were the they were they were the they were they were the the they were the the the the the the they were the the the the the the the the their their their their their their the the, thi were were were thi, thi, I will say with 100 percent, I, Sam Tripoli, believe this, that they knew that there were people in that building, some of the smartest financial minds of our life, and they just, and there were certain people that weren't there that day, just like in Oklahoma City bombing, and they weren't there, and the rest them were allowed to go there, and we lost some pretty brilliant amazing people to sacrifice for what was now looking at like billions and trillions.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And let's not forget also the day before Donald Rumsfeld has a giant conference in which the government can't like account for what was it? Either six or 13 trillion dollars. And the exact words he says, and we've covered it before, is, I know what you guys are thinking, why would I want to attack the Pentagon? And the next day they attacked the Pentagon. It's very easy and then we see what happens after 9-11. Do you remember where you were Robbie when 9-11 happened? Yeah, I was in bed.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I'm on Pacific time, so by the time it happened, I think, I mean, I think when the first plane hit, might have been 9 o'clock, my time. I can't remember exactly. But yeah, it was messed up, man. I mean, and I, and you know, this this this is this is th th this is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, do th. Do you you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were you were, do where where where where where you were, do you were, do th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You know, do th. You know, do th. You th. You you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. Do can't remember exactly. But yeah, it was it was messed up man. I mean and I and you know this is something that I always hear like conspiracy debunkers say is that oh you know that the conspiracy theories and the conspiracy theorists are the ones who invented the sort of whole controlled demolition theory but I will never be able to escape my initial gut reaction to the towers falling.
Starting point is 00:34:06 When my roommate and I watched those towers falling on TV, we both looked at each other and were just like, how in the hell did that happen? Like, why did that look like the die-hard movie cover? Like, what is going on? We were, we just didn't, weren't able to wrap our heads around how both of those buildings collapsed so quickly in the manner that they did th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. And, th. th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th....... th, th, th. th. th. th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, theeea, thea. And, tha. And, thea. And, thoooooooo. And, the. And, tha, wrap our heads around how both of those buildings collapsed so quickly in the manner that they did on the day of 9-11. And it wasn't until maybe a couple years later that I started finding other people who were, who had the same reaction as I did and were actually trying to study it. So, I mean, there's really, and this is actually an interesting interchange between Joe Rogan and a debunker that I remembered from a couple years back. The debunker guy was like mad at Joe Rogan for talking about Building 7 so much on his show and then Joe actually responded with one of his best retorts ever.
Starting point is 00:34:54 He was like, can you actually tell me with a straight face that you don't think Building 7 looks exactly like controlled demolition? And the guy had to admit that it did, even though this guy was a freaking professional debunker. So the fact that it looks exactly like one, you know, that's an important thing. And I don't, you know, I don't care that it's become a meme or a joke, like I'll always believe that for as long as I live. Like I can never escape, not just the initial gut reaction I had but just watching video clips of building seven falling Something fucking strange happened there absolutely I know we've talked about it on this podcast. I don't know if you've ever looked at have you ever heard about building six
Starting point is 00:35:36 I've heard a little bit about it and I try to avoid it because it beers into the Judy Wood some of the space beam stuff so I've not I'm not gone there myself. The biggest thing is that you don't even have to get into exactly shoots but if you actually look at it you can Google building six you'll see that the entire wall all the walls of the building is there and only the center is hollowed out and it's very interesting that that the building is there and only the center is hollowed out. And it's very interesting that that happened even though it wasn't anything near. And the fact that that isn't even talked about is really interesting to me. And when we, you know, we talk about how, you know, Donald Rumsfield has this big press conference about all this money being gone,
Starting point is 00:36:26 and then you think of the five buildings that were hit and how three of them were accounting. You know, the Pentagon, the part of the Pentagon was accounting, Building 7 was accounting for several different departments. And then if, when you get a moment later on, look into it, Building 6, the the Eldorado Task Force which was a task force of 55 government agencies pooling together resources to investigate money laundering and it's just like wow all those get hit it's kind of weird after the big the big meeting so we have and then you have some testimony about what's going on. I can't find it right now but there's oh here it is. Transportation Secretary Norm M-I-N-E-T-A it's 9-11 testimony and what he talks about here is how he was on the plane with Dick Cheney and
Starting point is 00:37:25 They're flying and I'll send you this link Rob you can look at they was in the oval office with Janie. Yeah, I know it was in the oval office. Okay, he's in the oval office and the fighter pilots are like 30 minutes out 20 minutes out 10 minutes. Yeah, should we should we engage? Should we stop it? And then basically, I'm paraphrasing here, Dick Chene's like, did I tell you to stop it? Did I tell you the plan had changed? To me, that's very telling. Have you seen this video?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh yeah, that's a classic, that's been in the sort of the 9-11 Truth Movement for a few years. The only problem with that video now is that part of Norman Manetta's testimony has been proven wrong by photographs that have come out since. But only, the only part that was proven wrong is where he was located at the times that he said. So it doesn't mean that his exchange with Cheney is not accurate. I'm sure that happened, but there's been some sort of confusion with the actual timeline that he laid out of that. So he was like, I'm in the kitchen with a candlestick, and they're like, no, you're in the bedroom
Starting point is 00:38:33 with a shoehorn. Yeah, I mean, it's basically like that. So it's not that he presented, and that timeline has specifically has fallen apart. But his actual words and sort of the shoot-down order thing is still very interesting to me. And yeah, I mean, I think Cheney definitely has blood on his hands in some capacity with 9-11, and I don't think it's just with the shoot-down order. I mean, I'm sure he was running Norway. He had involvement in. So after 9-11, obviously weapons of mass destruction comes, and, you know, to me this is a moment where like, I think an innocence of America starts to fade.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And I know that we had JFK and all that stuff, but you know now we're seeing the emergence, let's say, of the internet more and more, and now contrary thoughts and facts can be presented where we're not just getting it from mainstream corporate media, and now we see these weapons of mass destruction. We see that, you know, I, I knew that our media was not telling us about all these huge protests around the world about the US illegally invading Iraq. They wouldn't let us know anything about that because the world was just so angry that what we were doing and we saw
Starting point is 00:40:06 Cole Powell, we saw like Condoleezza Rice and we see all these people just marching and lying about this intel and everybody says they think they got faulty intel and we know over and over again that they just sent back any intel that didn't have that, that, you know, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. And we have this story about, what with your thoughts on the whole weapons of mass destruction stuff? Well, I mean, I have, I feel like you have to tie it back to 9-11 in certain specific ways, because obviously, on some level, we wouldn't have been able to sort of get the public support for the Iraq war had there not been 9-11.
Starting point is 00:40:51 But there were sort of other steps that happened from there to the Iraq war that are very interesting to sort of pick a part. So like one of them, like in the first five to six hours of the 9-11 attacks, the Mainstream media wasn't even really talking about bin Laden yet. The perpetrator that was being labeled was some kind of Palestinian terrorist group. They even played footage on television of Palestinians allegedly celebrating the 9-11 attacks, like at 12 noon, East Coast time. So it seemed like, the reason why 9-11 is such an interesting to look at it as to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, the 9-11 attacks, like at 12 noon, East Coast time. So it seemed like, the reason why 9-11 is such an interesting to look at it as sort of
Starting point is 00:41:30 a false flag is because most of these supposed false flags, the perpetrator has already decided before the attack or the operation is conducted. In this case, it didn't seem like the power factions who were sort of in power at the time of 9-11 could decide immediately who was to blame. And someone was trying to blame Palestinians. And that didn't, wasn't effective enough to stick. And then they tried to blame Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. And that was sort of a general, vague blame that they put on him. But then, I mean, the way, the way, the way, the way, that that that that way, that that way, that that that way, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way that we got from 9-11 to Iraq was they tried to blame 9-11 on Saddam Hussein also at first, saying that he was meeting or his own people were meeting with some of the 9-11 hijackers in Europe, that Saddam Hussein created a safe haven for Bin Laden, and that apparently they were starting to say, you know, that that thuui, thui, and thui, and thui, and thuil, and thui, and thuil, and thuil, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, th, th, thi, th, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the is the is theiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, was they was thi, thi, they were starting to say you know that there's
Starting point is 00:42:25 some evidence that al-Qaeda had gotten bio weapons from Saddam Hussein's bio-weapons program so that was even floating around out there and then of course we get an attack right after 9-11 which by any conceivable definition is a blatant false flag attack which was the 2001 anthrax attacks that happened started on October 5th. Yep, there we go. False flags again. And if you think about it, I mean, all this other stuff, the Bush administration was
Starting point is 00:42:54 trying to throw at us, nuclear, the nuclear program, the aluminum tubes, the Sarin gas. That stuff I don't think was ultimately very effective because even what was the whole, I forgot his name, but the guy who was married to Valerie Plame, you know he destroyed the uranium and Niger claim like immediately and that had to do with the nuclear program. So that wasn't really something that stuck, neither was the seren gas thing either. What stuck was the idea that Saddam had stockpiles of anthrax and had mobile biological weapons labs like on train tracks making anthrax and that somehow that was a threat to us that he was possibly going to give this anthrax a terrorist and lo and behold an actual
Starting point is 00:43:37 anthrax attack happens in the United States sort of right on top of all this propaganda. But it took us about a year after that to actually get to Iraq, but I mean, to me that, it's like we were basically hit with two, you know, potential false flags in a row, but the anthrax attacks, they inevitably blamed on a super patriot. And we, you know, everybody can go back and watch the episode that you and I and Abby are. Yes, it was awesome. That, you know, breaking down that whole thing is fascinating and I don't think most people realize how crucial that particular attack was to basically, basically not just getting
Starting point is 00:44:15 us into Iraq, but creating the impression among the American public that terrorism was a way of life now in the United States and that we were going to be under sort of this threat of constant terrorist attacks from here on out. And I think that without the second one after 9-11, I don't think they would have been able to create that perception that, you know, 9-11 might have just been a one-off, but the anthrax attacks really created that idea they're going to keep coming. So we better watch out for the next one and the next one. And the next one. And then the DC sniper thing, you know, happened only a year later. And that's a really weird incident in and of itself. I mean, it's a whole rabbit hole in of itself.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It is. Well, the media makes you think you leave think to think to thing. And you know, this orchestrated 9-11, and like the push for weapons of mass destruction, and then, you know, how it was basically proven phony intel based on a guy that was completely corrupt, hate it, no, paid to lie, which is eerily similar to this Russian gate stuff that was completely corrupt, hate it, no, paid to lie, which is eerily similar to this Russian gate stuff that we just debunked, you know, and it's just like paid to lie, pushed by the media to profit, to push war. And then when I see all these people still working, man. It drives me nuts, dude. If I see Condoleezza
Starting point is 00:45:48 Rice comment one more time on anything about the NCAA basketball you know operations or anything I'm like this woman was part of a lie she lied us in knowing what she was doing and it's like there are war criminals who are able to see old age. It drives me crazy, dude. It's just like there's no ramifications for this. And we all know that they lied. And yet, I see in the conspiracy community, I'm calling out my own people, this push to make it seem
Starting point is 00:46:25 like Russia Gate is the worst thing that ever happened in US history, you know, and that these Democrats, Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, are the worst thing ever happened when they don't even remember 15 years ago, you know, or 20 years ago that it was the neocons, the Zionists that were pulling this thing. To me, it is bad what they did with the FISA report and the spying on an elected president. I think that's even worse in Watergate, but I still don't put that even close to the realm of 9-11 and weapons of mass destruction. It's just unbelievable to the realm of 9-11 and weapons of masses destruction. It's just unbelievable to me. Thoughts?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, I mean, people have, you know, it's the, what do people say, the United States of amnesia? I mean, even the conspiracy crowd forgets stuff that happened eight years ago. It's like, it really does take a long view of history to really understand that this is not a partisan thing. The deep state is not partisan. I mean, the notion of that is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, it is true that probably a lot of Democrats and people who are Democrat voters didn't want Trump in office.
Starting point is 00:47:40 But I mean, Jim Comey was a lifelong Republican. And now all these people are trying to paint the entire Russia gate, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiii. the thi. thi. the thi, thi, lifelong Republican, you know, and now all these people are trying to paint the entire Russia Gate, you know, witch hunt team or whatever as these partisan Democrats. I mean, the Jim Comi thing is interesting to me because he actually was trying, he was kind of playing both sides. Like he released that letter saying that the Clinton investigation had been reopened right before the election. He, he wanted that letter that to to it to some Republican staffers knowing that they were going to leak it. For sure. And then later, you know, he comes out acting like he's this anti-Trump hero.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I don't buy it. I mean, the whole thing is odd. I would argue that Russia gate was a bipartisan effort. It was actually originally incepted by the same neococococococococococococococococococococococococococococococon, the the same nec- th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that's that, thi, that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th, th, thi, thi, thi thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th by the same neocons, you're talking about, Sam, the same neocons from the Bush era, who were clever enough to figure out a way to get people in the Obama administration to go along with this. Yeah, and you know, and then we get into Wesley Clark's famous hammer nail seven nation speech, which is basically, you know, where he's like, I went to the Pentagon, I went downstairs, just say hello, to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same the same, the same, the same, the same the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same the same the same thoan, the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same, the same, the basically, you know, where he's like, I went to the Pentagon, I went downstairs just say hello to some people. This is, I'm reading from the transcript. People on the joint staff who used to work for me and one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you got to come in, I got to talk to me for a second. Talk to war with Iraq. And this was on, this was on the 20th of September.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I said, we're going to war with Iraq. Why? He said, I don't know. I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda? He's like, no, no, no. There's nothing new. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. I guess it's like when you don't know what to do about terrorism,
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Starting point is 00:50:29 Definitely not in the short of a timeline as he suggested, but yeah, I mean, and the idea of Iran being last or being sort of the prize, it makes sense because out of all those countries in the region who aren't under our sphere of influence in the Middle East, they're the most powerful and most likely to cause issues when we try to invade them. I mean they're they are a power, they have a powerful military, they have a very technologically advanced society compared to other Middle Eastern countries. So I think that, you know, like I was saying in the beginning, this, Wesley Clark told us this, the Bush administration already told us they wanted to invade Iran in different ways they told
Starting point is 00:51:17 us this. So we should have assumed that eventually we were going to be faced with this again. And I think a lot of this has to do with not just the geostrategic interests in the region, but it also has to do with this sort of never forgive, never forget mentality. I mean, imagine the embarrassment that these hard-line hawk, you know, psychopath, U.S. government people felt after the Iranian revolution happened, they took over our embassy, and they basically got the Shah to flee the country. So they basically, through their own revolution, toppled a puppet government that we had
Starting point is 00:51:58 installed there after we took down Moseadek. So that's got to be deep-seated resentment that people in the U.S. government have against Iran. Yeah, for sure. Have you heard that, you know, George Bush and who has like had CIA ties, he's had the CIA, and Reagan negotiated with the hostage taker to basically hold onto the hostages until after the war? I mean, after the election?
Starting point is 00:52:26 That is, that was, I think that's where the term October surprise actually comes from. There's an amazing book by Robert Perry, journalist who passed away a couple years ago, sadly, but he wrote a whole book about the October surprise, broke it down better than anyone else. And yeah, that's absolutely, it's been proven. There was actually a commission done after Reagan became president to investigate that. I'm not sure what the commission included, but that's all totally accurate, that they essentially held the hostages longer to make Jimmy Carter look bad and make it appear that Reagan was the one who sort of heroically, you know, save them or brought them back.... So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they, their, the, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the commission, that Reagan was the one who sort of heroically, you know, save them or brought them back. So yeah for sure. One
Starting point is 00:53:10 thing I just want to say real quick is that so Wesley Clark lists those those those countries that we want to go in. Now we're getting a conspiracy world here. So if you Google 2000 in the year 2000 what eight countries didn't have for lack of better turn Rothchild. I just think that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the internet the internet that's the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet that's the internet the internet the internet their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to them their them to to to to to their their their their their their their their their. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I the. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the. the. I. to. the. the. th. Yeah. I. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. I. Yeah, the. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I'm. 2000, in the year 2000, what eight countries didn't have, for lack of a better turn, Rothschild? I just think that's IMF, W, World Bank terms owned or controlled centralized banks. And these are the ones that come up. Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Syria. So how many of those are on Wesley Clark's list? A
Starting point is 00:53:47 lot of them. And now you go to how many now don't have, how many don't have all centralized banks and right now the list is Cuba, North Korea, Iran and Syria? I mean, I I know it's a coincidence but it's kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting that, you know, money is power. If I control everybody's money, I don't care who's fighting. Is that the, a paraphrase of the famous quote by Rothschild? I mean, it's so interesting. And then we get into, you know, it went from Al-Qaeda to ISIS, right? And how ISIS was the boogie man. And then over time, we start, start, you know, people start stupid around, they start
Starting point is 00:54:39 seeing that there's kind of a pattern going on with ISIS. And that, does ISIS, the bad guy or they controlled opposition are we funding ISIS and then the answer is yes they are they're on the they're on the payroll I believe and because if you look at who ISIS is attacking they're none of our allies we've actually seen ISIS complain about accidentally attacking Israel these are real things. You can look them up. And then we find out that a PR company came out in Britain and said that they were paid half a billion dollars to produce ISIS beheading videos. You know, we create the boogie man. And if that is true, that means that people in our military are sending our sons and
Starting point is 00:55:26 daughters to fight people with, that we fund, with our arms, with our weapons. And that to me, is disgusting and sad. Have you heard anything about this, Robbie? Yeah, I mean, my view on it, it's a little different. I mean, I think there is definitely a confluence of forces in the region. Israel, even Turkey, other European countries and the United States all have a strategic interest in creating, or at least letting survive a contingent of ISIS fighters in these regions. And there's been some specific examples of, like during the end of the Obama administration, we were actually providing, unofficially, you know, we didn't say it out loud, but we were providing air cover essentially for ISIS.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We were creating pathways for them to fight. And this is all documented. And yeah, I mean, you know, just to tell your listeners, I made a fake beheading video myself in 2004. Right after the Nick Berg beheading video came out, we did it as a joke, we did it in our garage, took us like maybe an hour or two to make. I put it on a joke. We did it in our garage. Took us like maybe an hour or two to make. I put it on a file sharing network and within two months
Starting point is 00:56:50 actual major media outlets picked up the video as a real beheading video that an American soldier may beheaded in Iraq. It wasn't until maybe 24 hours after that that they realized it was fake. But it But it was too late at that point. You know, over 100 media outlets, no exaggeration, reported it as a actual real beheading video. Because by the time it went in, you know, the newspapers had printed it, the retraction came too late. So, you know, I have a lot of opinions on the idea of using snuff videos or these beheading videos to rile people up to the point of wanting to go, you know, use military strikes. I mean, I just find it interesting that that's still sort of a trope that's
Starting point is 00:57:33 being used that, you know, look how barbaric or how animalistic or, you know, whatever people say about, you know, the idea of ISIS making beheading videos i mean to me it's just sort of like well if you don't have very much of a budget and you wanna anger american like colonizers the most and make their blood boil the most behead of westerner on video and show it to him and talk about death to america i mean to me that's like kind of strategically smart effective way to scare the shit out of people and it's kind of and it works for the US government's benefit too because then it's like the neocons really
Starting point is 00:58:08 don't even have to do any work they're just like oh look at this video instead of you know writing dozens of essays and going on the media every day to tell us how scary al-Q love that and then it was also found out Because I used to say man if I could hire any social media person I'd love to hire ISIS social media person because they crush it on the internet. I'm like they get do they get a million tweets A million views whoever that guy is and whatever weird hut in the middle of nowhere on some fucking funky Wi-Fi, he is crushing it. And then it later comes on when they've kind of traced back one of ISIS's Twitter accounts,
Starting point is 00:58:56 they finally went back to an office in Parliament in England. And it was like, oh man, we create the boogie man so we have to fight the boogie man. And it's kind of super sad that that does, that, that they have to manipulate us into a war like that. And it's just like it's all mental warfare, man. It's all mental warfare. So I have to do this real quick. I forgot to do an advertisement early before we get into Iran. I want to tell you about Bluetooth. This is so appropriate. Do you guys, you love boners? You like sex? Ah, guys, let's talk about sex. Good sex. Remember, the days when you are always ready to go. Now let's increase your performance and get the extra confidence in bed. Listen up, Blutu.com. That's right. Blue to brings the first you the first you the first you the first you the first you the first the first the first the first the chew. B the chew. B the chew. B the chew. B. B. B. B. B. B, the first. B, the first. B, the first. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. thu. B. B. B. B. B. B. B. th. B. th. th. th. This is th. This is th. This. B. th. This. th. This. th. This. th. This. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. B. th. B. B. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. up, blue chew.com. That's right, blue, like the color, okay?
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Starting point is 01:00:46 love you and I know that was a weird moment for that but listen did if you're going to talk about fucking somebody let's talk about Blu-chew so let's get into Iran here it starts here we go the drums of war we got Iran why do you think they want Iran so much? Well, I mean, I think that it's an inevitability. I mean, it's, it's, they claim, you know, if you, if you go based on what they say, it's because they cannot allow, they say, Iran to have a nuclear weapon. But we know that's obvious BS and that the nuclear deal that Trump's administration
Starting point is 01:01:30 tore up would have actually prevented that from happening. I mean, all indications point to that deal was actually relatively solid as far as a way to keep a check on that. I'm actually of the mind that I think Iran has the right to have nukes. If Israel has nukes, a secret nuke program, a Pakistan has them, if India has them, I don't see why Iran should not be allowed to have them. There's this idea that our government has tried to portray that they are radical religious fanatics who will blow up the world because they believe in martering themselves
Starting point is 01:02:08 and getting virgins in heaven or whatever. I mean, you know, why, how is Israel not fanatical? You know, I mean, like, so, How are we not the radical? Exactly. I mean, Bush said that God told them to launch the Iraq war. So, it's, it doesn't add up. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, to to to to to, to, too, too, too, too, to, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.a, the.a, the. the. the. the. too, too, too, the. the. the. the. the. told them to launch the Iraq war. So it's it doesn't add up. It's another way of just otherizing the Iranian people. I mean in a lot of ways their society is very different than us. They have very harsh laws, but it's you know even that
Starting point is 01:02:34 angle that they try to talk about why we need to save the Iranian people, why we need to rip hijabs off of women and let them run through the streets. It's phony. It's completely disingenuous. It is sort of the liberal in, the quasi-liberal humanitarian inn for neocon propaganda. That's the same thing. to do the same thing in Afghanistan. You know, they tried to convince liberals that the Afghanistan war was valid because look how terrible the Taliban treat women and their own citizenry. But that's not of an actual concern to the people in power.
Starting point is 01:03:09 They just know that that is an effective talking point, you know, to convince liberals and conservatives. But yeah, man, it's really heating up here and it's really, really dangerous. And I think that what people need to realize is just because Trump may have temporarily pulled back on a military strike after this drone was allegedly shot down. Or I mean, it was actually shot down. In Iran territory, and then on top of that world is coming out, that they flew it next to a passenger airline
Starting point is 01:03:46 in case, so in case he did shoot, there's a chance that could take out that. So they could say, and then where it is, the Iran pulled back. And what's very interested about this whole thing is, Max Walter, Zetter's name, whatever that crazy lady is from LA that's you know basically wanted people to ride against Trump supporters and then later fucking went in hiding because she was trying to say a riot but you know she was like you know we can't shoot you know we don't have the right to be in their airspace and then what's her name Laura what's her face from Fox News Laura Ingram Ingram was like oh listen, listen to her,
Starting point is 01:04:27 go against her own military in support of a country that is the number one funder of terrorism. I'm like, ah, she's talking about Iran. She didn't mention Saudi Arabia or the United States. Like, now Fox News is like, well, man, we tried to be calm for a little while while Trump's him, but we gotta start saying some bat shit crazy stuff too. And that's it. I mean, like, dude, you're telling me that Iran is a threat to the world. We have like 50 bases around him.
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Starting point is 01:05:30 And if you don't like how Iranians treat women, well maybe we shouldn't have fucking taken out the moderate that was in there. I'm just yelling at this point. Yeah, man. It's super disingenuous. I mean, anybody who's saying that this is saying at this point. Yeah, man, it's super disingenuous. I mean, anybody who's saying that this is anything, you know, validating an actual attack on their country, it's just completely ludicrous. The problem is a lot of those people who are saying right now, including Trump, to his credit, I don't know how genuine he's being, but
Starting point is 01:06:05 if we take what he's saying in face value, he's actually said that he doesn't believe killing 150 Iranians in a counter-attack would have been proportionate to downing an unmanned drone. Unfortunately, though, you and I both know what will happen if the Iranians kill one American soldier? Just one, or not even soldier, just like a contract or something. That's all it will take for the full force of the American military to come down on them. And they're smart enough to know that. They were playing a risky game, you know, trying to sort of fight back and show the Trump administration that they're not total cowards. They have admitted to shooting down the drone, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the drone, th, the th, th, th, th, th, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, back and show the Trump administration that they're not total cowards.
Starting point is 01:06:45 They have admitted to shooting down the drone, even though it was in their own airspace, which they have the right to do. But yeah, I mean, I think that this is going to heat up again. And if the people in power, you know, who are under Trump or the military industrial complex factions of this, they can figure out a way to get one American killed or to make it look like an American was killed or captured, it's on. And unfortunately, I don't think anything could really be done to stop it. I don't think any protest is going to stop it.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I don't think even the amount of the lack of appetite people have for war are going to stop it because that's all it's going to take. I mean, we haven't had an American killed, you know, like that in a long time and I think, I mean, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic. I mean, what do you think? Well, I mean, like, I think we're at a place where we have a taxat no representation and by our own government. And there is unilaterally, like except for blue check talking head dipshits on Twitter, unilaterally nobody wants war with Iran.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Because we know what this is. This is not about defending ourselves. This is about us and, know and Israel and Saudi Arabia just trying to rewrite the map of the Middle East and you know I have a lot of Jewish friends and I love Jews and I you know I think Israel's like the United States there's a just mass propaganda just fucking militarizing those people and I'm not saying that they aren't doing atrocities against Palestinians because we all know that they are. But I mean when I hear my friends say Israel has the right to defend itself, that says to me Israel's gonna get
Starting point is 01:08:35 American soldiers killed to help their cause and that's what happens all the time. Israel has the right to defend self. Go defend yourself. I just don't think it needs, we need to be pulled into it. If Israel wants to have a problem with that, then they should go defend it. But what it means is we have to come in and lives will be lost and we'll be there for a decade or so. And we got these Zionists, neocons, neolibraals, fuck Sharia law, all this bullshit idealism that is fucking forcing your beliefs on other people that your way of thinking is superior, you can go fuck yourself, okay?
Starting point is 01:09:16 Live and let live. That's what I say. I don't care if you're Jew, a Muslim, straight, gay, white, black, man, woman. Just live your life. Don't hurt children, don't hurt fucking other people. Live your life, but when you have a dogma that is like your way's right way, I have a real problem with that and I don't like when I hear people say Israel is the right to defend itself. You do. I don't think American lives have to die for it and that's my opinion, okay and then we got these fucking these the thukuk these these the thuke the the thuke thuke the their th. T th. T th. T. thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus, thus, thus, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too. I. I. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus. thus. toooooo. too. too. toe. toe. American lives have to die for it. And that's my opinion, okay? And then we got these fucking, these cucks, like John Bolton and Mike Pompey, is that how you pronounce it? Pompeo? Who are like, who have lied a thousand times? I mean, Pompeo said I was had the CIA. We got trained to lie, lie, lie lie lie and that he's like yeah these guys Iran's just they're just a threat to
Starting point is 01:10:08 everybody and it's like why don't you guys go fight John Bolton here's a spork from KFC we'll throw in Iraq and Iran and let you go fucking fight the war you really want and it makes me super sad and them getting all of us to fight with each other is a way that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the that the I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their their their their their their thus. the the that that that to to to thou to te ty to thou the the the the they're they're just just just they're they're they're they're them getting all of us to fight with each other is a way that we don't pay attention to this. And it makes me really sad because the same neocons are constantly getting us to fucking into these wars for, you know, this deep state, whoever you want to call it, for banker wars, in my opinion, you know? It's like it's really about some strategic land areas, whether it's a pipeline from Qatar going through Syria, or Israel being a land bridge for Asia and Africa to have goods to go through to Europe.
Starting point is 01:11:01 That's what's all about. It's geopolitics. You know, and we're the aggressors and we're, our, our army is a stormtroopers for these international bankers. And that's why it's a lot different than everywhere else. And I think it's super sad and I think people are starting to wake up to it. And I really do believe that this push for this false flag stuff is, isn't working. And it's really sad sad that when tha thui sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa- and it's sad. And it's sad. And it's sad. And it's sad. And it's sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad. And it's sad. And it's sad sad sad sad sad. And it's sad. And it's sad. And it's sad. And I that it's sad. And I that that that that that that th. And I that th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. And I th. th. th. th. th. flag stuff is it isn't working. And it's really sad when and your thoughts on this, did Tucker Carlson talk Donald Trump out of doing this and leading us into World War III, do you think? Well, before I comment on that directly, um, no, I mean, the idea of what you're saying, no, it definitely holds up. But I think that, you know, the scary thing here, Sam, is that if another 9-11-style attack
Starting point is 01:11:54 happens here, I think then all bets are off. We will unlearn, or the smarter sectors of society that have learned to be resistant to the propaganda and have learned to identify a lot of these things could possibly unlearn all that overnight if they feel that their lives are threatened by some kind of foreign country that has attacked us here or done some kind of terrorist attack here. That's my, that's what I fear the most. I hope that doesn't happen. But it's been almost 20 years since 9 11. I feel like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. tho. tho. tho. the thi. thi. the thi. the their th. their th. their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their th. I. I. I'm t. I'm toda. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. th. today. the the th. happen. But it's been almost 20 years since 9-11. I feel like we're kind of due, you know, like, I don't know, you know, I don't know if 20 years before 9-11 what the last major event was, but, you know, maybe arguably Pearl
Starting point is 01:12:34 Harbor before that, but it seems like they're getting so desperate to cling to power here that I fear that that is in the cards, some point in the near future. But going back to what you asked about, did Tucker Carlson talk Trump out of war? I don't think so, but there is something very interesting happening here where Trump is smart enough to basically be playing both sides of this. He's enticed to a great deal, a lot of these Iran warhawks. He's gotten them on his side for the last year. He's really sort of kind of fluffed them up, if you will. And on the other side of it, he's a lot of his base also as proud of the fact
Starting point is 01:13:21 they say that Trump hasn't started any new wars. I agree with that. Which is not technically true, 100% true. He has started a new front of the war on terror in Africa. And if you really want to look at the numbers, he has escalated bombing campaigns to a higher degree drone attracts in Obama. He hasn't started a new, completely new front in terms of like let's say the Libya attack was. So technically speaking, he hasn't done something like that. But we're still not that far into his presidency.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I still think he's going to win in 2020. I don't think he's going to lose. Regardless of what people on the left think of how good Bernie is. Bernie's going to get absolutely trounced by Trump. and I just think we all need to face thoughts on tons who grab ours but I do think that Trump is smart enough to know that it's kind of rope-a-dope he's he knows that you know he wants people to believe that there are these hawks surrounding him as administration who are trying to pressure him into war but that he's smart enough not to let them get their way and I find I don't know if I
Starting point is 01:14:28 believe that narrative but that is definitely what he wants people to believe are happening but then you have to ask why did he hire John Bolton why did he hire these people why do he sell arms to Saudi Arabia when he's he's from New York he knows he did 9 11 he said it like what they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th he th is the th is th is th is th is their their their their their their their he their he their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's their he's th he's th he's th he's th I I I I I he's th is is is is is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is to to th is th is to to the to the the to the the to the the the the the the the the th you doing? And you know where those, you know where those arms are going. They're going to ISIS. You are literally selling arms to the people who are going to be fighting our sons and daughters. That, well, that was a whole other interesting thing he did. I mean, he was basically almost trying to normalize this military industrial complex kind of relationship like he sat down in front of the press with MBS from Saudi
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Starting point is 01:15:48 that style too. It's very in some ways transparent. I want to fight that guy boxing match charity event all charity goes to I'll give the money to the Rothschilds. They could have it I want to fight him in the boxing ring anywhere. One man, two men to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their. their one their one their. their is. I their is. I'll their is. I'm the oil. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the oil. I's the oil. I's the oil. I the oil. I the oil. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I is is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I the is. I the is. I'm the. I'm the theole. I'm tiny. I'm tiny. I'm tole. I'll. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll is. I'll is. I'll They could have it. I want to fight them. In the boxing ring, anywhere, one man, two men enter one man leave. I just, he's such a disgusting human being. And they, you know, they live in this world where it's just like, there's no repercussions for lying and a cheating and, you know, causing math death of not just, you know, Middle Eastern but Americans. And it makes me sad because I think on the most primal, basic levels, Jews, Muslims, Christians, whatever you are. We all just, we're all just want to just get along and have love
Starting point is 01:16:41 and raise our families and do all this stuff. And they get us all the fight with each other. And it's like people get mad me because I say, you know, oh, Jews run the banks, Jews don't, there's levels so much higher that, that and they get us all like, oh these people are fucking you and those people are fucking you and they get in this identity politics shit so we think the Iran's Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran the Iran the Iran the Iran the Iran the Iran the Iran the Iran their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their Jews, their, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th is is th is th is thi's is thi's thi's, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's, thi's, thi's, thi's, their Jews, their Jews, their Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Iran's are bad, you know, the you know, the South, you know, it's just like dude There's a small group of people. They're probably all related when you find out Queen Elizabeth is related to Mohammed You're like wow, how's that possible? Obama's related to Cheney and it's like it's this power-leek group and they do everything and they're of they're not? Jews. They're not Muslims. They're just some dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark dark. the dark. the dark. the dark. their? their? their? their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're of they're not Jews they're not Muslims they're not Christians they're just some dark arts mother fucking psychopath who just use and abuse us to fucking make money and and they get us to fight with each other and when they don't realize if we just all came together their
Starting point is 01:17:36 whole thing would crumble they can't fight us all there's few of them and many of us and we just have to push back and maybe you're right maybe it's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th. th th th th th. th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi they's they's thi they's thi thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's to to to they're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi of them and many of us. And we just have to push back and maybe you're right, maybe it's too late. I don't know, but it just, it makes me so sad, dude. It just makes me super sad. What do you think of it? What do you think to end it here, what do you think really happens? What do you think is going to happen? Robbie? Well, I think a flip side, I'll take the opposite point of view just theoretically here on the Tucker Carlson thing, because let's play out the thought experiment, that that's actually true, that he did talk Trump out of war and Trump was almost about to launch a military airstrike in Iran.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Think of how fucked up that is if a television host was the deciding factor between no war with Iran and like basically World War III. I mean, because let's face it, if we attack Iran, it's not going to be anywhere near the level, or I should say the containment level of Iraq, if you can even call it that, it's going to lead to a World War III like scenario. And I think that just really reflects, if that's the the the the the the thuuuuuui thui thui thui thui thui thui thu. thui thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thui. thui. thui. thui. to thi. thi. to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to be to be to be to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. to toe. toea. toea. toeananea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. going to lead to a World War III like scenario. And I think that just really reflects, if that's true, there's any truth to that, how tenuous and how dangerous a position we're in right now. This rodeo is not over yet.
Starting point is 01:18:55 This is the prize. This is what the neocons and the military industrial complex has wanted for a very long time and we need to be very careful right now and not I don't think it's time to breathe a sigh of relief and be like okay trump stopped this he's he knows this is good I think we're we're gonna be in for several more provocations and gestures either by the media or whatever you know even even potential false flag attacks moving forward. So we're going to need to ride it out and really be cautious. And I think that's the best we can do right now is just don't let our guards down that this is all over yet.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Because this is something they deeply, deeply care about. And, you know, the military industrial complex is in some ways, it is a moving, unstoppable train, and, you know, I don't know. I don't know how you stop it once it starts. So all we can do right now is just act outrage, you know, express outrage, get in the streets, confront people, do whatever, because this hasn't started yet. But I fear that once it starts, they won't really need to sell the public on it because that machinery is just going to click on and just go full speed.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I couldn't agree. I want to take an even more optimistic look. I'm saying if Tucker Carlson can talk to this president and convince him even for a short time to hold off on this attack. What could this, if we all came together and just said, no, dude, we don't want it anymore? I think if a large group of us pushed back, You know, when he made it okay to hunt and endangered animals and there was just push back, I remember he, okay, it's not happening. We're done, we're not, that's not going to happen. I think he is affected by that.
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Starting point is 01:21:36 and get back to where it was 2000, you know, September 10, 2001, when it's just like, we were loved by the world and I know the country wasn't perfect and when there was race relation problems and gender problems but it's like there was a there was kind of an optimism and there was kind of a love of us and I think that's all gone and I think we can get back to that if we just all push back. Robbie I love you to death I love every time you're on your show I know I'm a little crazy sometimes sometimes. to that to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And the the the the th. And the th. I'm the the the thi. I'm the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their. I's their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ti. I'm ti. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the te. the the the te. to death. I love every time you're on your show. I know I'm a little crazy sometimes and that you don't always subscribe to my thoughts but you are an example of people I like to have on the show because I am not
Starting point is 01:22:17 interested in just talking to people that agree with me or I agree with. I want to hear from both sides so I can have super conservative people on and then I can have people like yourself who you are immediate truth that might lean to the left a little more. I love that. I want to hear from everybody. And I'm so thankful you come on because I do say crazy shit that maybe you're not into, but I appreciate that you laugh and you have a good time and you and your sister are fucking gold and I appreciate you guys coming on, man. Can you tell them about your podcast real quick? Again, thanks for all the kind of words, man. That's really nice to you.
Starting point is 01:22:58 The podcast is Media Roots Radio. We try to do it every week. When I say we, I mean, me and my and my my my my my my my my my my my my sister, then my my sister, the my sister, then my then my the, the, the, thi, thi and my thi and my thi and week when I say we, I mean me and my sister Abby Martin. And I also do live streams occasionally on my own YouTube channel, a very heavy agenda where you can also watch my documentary series about the neocons. So yeah, that's mostly where you can check my stuff out. We'll do a little episode on that. I just want to say to your parents, they should write a book about how to raise children, because they did a wonderful job. We need more parents like that to raise fucking great people like you.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I love you buddy. I hope I can see you in San Francisco when I come to the show and I will do it again soon. I love everybody again. Thanks to come to Skang Fest. Hope to see a date coming near you. We got Washington. We got Chicago. We got all these dates coming out. I love you all. Thank you Aaron so much for letting us go a little over. I appreciate you guys and we'll see you next time.

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