Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #209: Dissolve The Government With Adam Kokesh

Episode Date: July 9, 2019

Thank you for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome Libertarian Presidential Candidate Adam Kokesh to discuss his run to the White House and his plan ...to dissolve the Federal Government. Thank you for your support/ Check out Adam's website http://thefreedomline.com/ Thank you to our sponsors: Blue Chew; Right now, we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code HAT -- Just pay $5 shipping. Again, that’s B - L - U - E - CHEW dot com, promo code HAT to try it FREE. AbsoluteXracts: Check out our sponsors at ABX.org! They are the Nike of weed and have everything you might need to get lit as f@ck! BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. We have big shows coming please check them dates out: July 20th: The DNA Room in Santa Cruz Aug 2nd: Harlow's in Sacramento CA! Sept 13th: Cobbs in San Fran

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Are you ready to get your mind down? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the revolution will be podcasted. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:05:30 You know what I'm saying? I say, burn the whole fucking thing down. And he is here, he's basically running on that. He is running for the libertarian nomination. He is a, man, this guy is a war here, real. He fucking brings books to Baltimore, dog. I mean, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, the, the, th, I, I, I, I'm like, I'm the the, the, I'm th, I'm th, I'm their, I'm their, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, this guy is a war hero. He fucking brings books to Baltimore, dog. I mean like you're bringing books to the wire. You know you ain't fucking around.
Starting point is 00:05:53 He's on radio, author. You name it. This guy is going to be the future. Please welcome the future president of the United States. Adam Kokesh everybody. How are you, bud? I was saying, Sam, thank you so much for that intro. And I love talking to comedians.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Because like, the only reason I got into politics in the first place was that I'm not funny enough to do stand-up. I really love, I actually have a Sam Tripoli station on my Pandora. Man! I found you through, threw Ari-Shafier you came up up up up up up up up up, you through, through Ari Shafir, you came up on. You have my vote. You have my vote. You got it.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Done. You don't have to campaign anymore. You got my vote. It's done here. I love that you're doing this. When did you decide to run for president? You know, it's funny before I answer that I have to introduce myself even as a presidential candidate, I throw open my mouth a little bit, because you really have to be some kind of psychopath to want to be president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And I really have to make this absolutely clear from the get-go that Adam Kokes being president is not an option. It's true that I'm technically running for president, but it's much more accurate to say that I'm running to turn the federal election into a referendum on whether or not the federal government should be allowed to exist at all. And if I'm the president-elect, it's not that I'm going to become president. We're going to go in and sign one executive order that lays out the process of a orderly bankruptcy process for the federal government. And this came
Starting point is 00:07:31 about to answer your question. In 2012, I know you know Bilderberg and you're familiar with Oh yeah. Yeah. You're familiar with Alex Jones work there. In 2012, I went to go to cover it for Adam versus the man. And I met Jason Burmess, the original Info Warrior, and we were debating freedom versus statism, and it's ongoing, he goes, oh yeah, well, what would you do if you were president? And I, hmm, what would I do if I were president? You know, I got over that moment pretty quickly and said, okay, well, if I'm seriously defending this worldview, you know, what would I do? You know, I quit, go home and get a real job. If I had the authority, if I was entrusted with this false authority, this power that
Starting point is 00:08:18 shouldn't exist that one human being has over others, I've seen Lord of the Rings. You don't put the ring the the the the tho tho thoe th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thii. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thoes. I'm thoes. I'm thoes. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I'm, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm togea. I'm togea. I'm toge. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th others. I've seen Lord of the Rings. You don't put the ring on, you throw it directly in the fire, and that's the basic concept of the campaign. And since 2012, people have been asking me serious questions about this one after another, and it never really, you know, formed as a serious idea until years later that this was possible. And I mean, I'm only doing this because nobody else is doing it. If this is an idea whose time has come, it's time we find out. We don't need to be united under a government to be united in American values. It's kind of ridiculous in 2020 that we're not all thinking outside the box and capable of saying, you know what, maybe
Starting point is 00:09:05 we'd be better off without this institution. Maybe we can redraw all these lines on the map to better suit our needs and not be bound by history. Well, you know, man, I think it's a very good idea. I say I'm all for anarchy. I'm all for burning everything down. We have a broken system in Washington. You know, it's like every election I really learn to appreciate women more because elections are basically what guys do are the equivalent of what men do to get laid.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Okay? Like, we say whatever we have to say to get laid. Whatever we think she wants a hair to give us some love, we'll say it. I mean, we will sell them the stars and the moon if they'll let them, let us give us give them, them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their we'll their we'll their work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their a hair to give us some love, we'll say it. I mean, we will sell them the stars and the moon if they'll let us give them a dick down, right? So this is the same thing that, and then we wonder why women go crazy and they just get so angry with us because we are, because we're savages, right? It's the same thing with elections. So you have these elections, these guys literally tell us what we want to hear and as soon as they get
Starting point is 00:10:09 elected, they have no plans of doing any of it. And it's gone too far. And what's really bad is that when I say politicians are liars. There is a group of people who know politicians are liars and they still get angry because you're calling their side a liar. These are people they've never met before. These are people they don't know anything really about other than what they've been sold, okay? Yet they get so angry. Like my mother and my brother are mad at me because I flipped off George Bush's statue
Starting point is 00:10:52 at the Houston thing. This man has been involved in three of the worst things to ever happen in American history, which is... Did you get mad at them for not doing it? What's that? You should have got mad at them for not doing it? What's that? You should have got mad at them for not doing it. Yeah, oh I did. That's one time. I'm like, I mean, I do research, dude.
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Starting point is 00:11:41 All my fucking hobbies are felonies. Why are you bringing the Popo to my show? It doesn't make any sense. But you know, they get mad at me and they don't realize that that guy was part of the JFK assassination. That guy was fucking part of the assassination attempt on, um, on, on uh, right, Reagan. And he was flooding the market, flooding the ghettos would crack. Supposedly the Bilderberg group was having a meeting in New York on September 10th,
Starting point is 00:12:12 the day before September 11th. So stop with that revisionist history. It's not just him, it's his whole family. The whole family. The daughters are hot, they got big tits and their little cross-eye. But the rest of them are just garbage people, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. G people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people. th people. th people. th. th. their. their. thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their. their. theits and their little cross-eye. But the rest of them are just garbage people, okay? Garbage people. So the snow, you know, and I know. In the cross-eyed part that keeps me away.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I don't know, dude, I, that gets my dick hard dog. I don't know why I just like cross-eyed. Cross-eyed and big teetheth, I, I, I, I, I, I, teeth, I, I, teeth, I, I, teeth, I, I, I, teeth, I, I, teeth, I, I, I, I, teeth, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, th. their, -eyed and big teeth, I'm excited. I don't know what it is. I saw that one time in Canada and I got so excited. I'm like, oh my god, it's the unicorn and she just ran off. And I'm just like, somewhere out there is my cross-eyed, big-titt, big-teeth, big-teeth, lady out there. I can't believe I'm. So the thing I like about you... Sam, can I go back to something since you... Dude, whatever you want to talk?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Before I go, Paul, I think it's just a good background point to cover here. Because you mentioned anarchy a couple times. And there are a lot of people who sort of, if you take a broader view of anarchy simply by the definition of a world with no rulers, that's not a world of chaos, that's a world of peace and harmony. And if you want to lump me in with that, it's certainly fair. Some people would describe me as an anarcho-capitalist, but I think what's more important as what describes my philosophical and ethical grounding is voluntarism. That's basically ethics, the ideal
Starting point is 00:13:45 that human relationships should be voluntary, free of force, fraud, and coercion. And then you understand when you look at government, what is it? It's something that fundamentally violates individual rights. Your right to self-ownership, that claims some ability to steal from you, to tax you, to claim some ownership, to take your freedom way. By, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, they, they, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and soo, and, and, and, and some, and some, and some, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and some, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the the the the the the the the the the they.......... the the the the the the the the the the the the they... the the the the the the the the the the the the the to tax you to claim some ownership to take your freedom way. By the way, if you were living in LA, a few less of your hobbies might be felonies,
Starting point is 00:14:08 just saying. But if you, probably, if you take that philosophical grounding, you stop, and this is an important shift that I'm proposing for the Libertarian Party, for the Libertarian movement, is to stop focusing on aesthetics and start really getting to stop focusing on aesthetics and start really getting down a principle focusing on ethics. And I'll just use one quick example of this. A lot of people think of libertarianism as pro-gun. And I feel like I'm pretty comfortable saying this because I went to jail for four months on civil disobedience for gun rights. So the libertarian physician is much more pro-private property than it is pro-gun. You should have the right to-for-for-for-for-for-for-for-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-ca-ca-ci to to to to to to to to to the right to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, their thi, thi. thi. thi. their-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o. And, th. And, thi. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-n, thi. thi-n. thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, the-s. theee. the-s. the-Ii. the. thi. the-I's-Ii. thi. thi-e. thi-e. th pro-private property than it is pro-gun. You should have the right to defend yourself however you want on your property, absolutely no questions asked.
Starting point is 00:14:53 But if I want to stay on my property, no guns allowed and you bring a gun on my property, then you're violating my rights. I think that's acceptable. Right, so to apply this now to the extreme in the political, or I should say to apply this ethical concept a little more consistently in the political context, we go with localization. How do we take governments apart from the top down to get it to that local level, where it's really more reflective of a community's needs and it's voluntary in the sense that anybody can opt out, you can start your own community. So again, I go to the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the extremes the e the e the e e e e e e e e e e e e e ea thiii thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thioli. thicicicicicicicial c. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. thic. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee the the the the an ethical the an ethical thee an ethical concept the the the an ethical concept the the the the the th anybody can opt out, you can start your own community. So I go to the extremes and the examples and say, you know, even though I'm somewhat Jewish
Starting point is 00:15:32 and the rise of, you know, fringe white nationalism in the United States today is somewhat viscerally disturbing. I can still say, if you and a bunch of people of the same race, you want to go have your ethno state over there and you do it on private property and you're not holding anybody hostage and you're not forcing on anybody else, I want you to have that right. And if you're a gun grabbing socialist and you get a bunch of people together and you want to live in a commune and do whatever crazy stuff you want to do there, same thing applies. If you're doing it, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're doing it, you're th you're doing it, you're bringing it, you're bringing it, you're bringing it, you're bringing it, you're bringing it, you're bringing it, you're th you're th you're th you're thi, you're to to to to to to to to thi, you're thi to to do it, you're to do it, you're to do it, you're to do it, to do it, to do it, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. the, the in a commune and do whatever crazy stuff you want to do there. Same thing applies. If you're doing it, you're bringing it together ethically. I want you to have that right.
Starting point is 00:16:11 How do we get to that? Localization, cure for polarization, because when you force everybody into one big system. Now if I meet you as a fellow American and you disagree with me on something, I have to see you as an enemy. But you might violate my freedom because we have a different aesthetic concept of what we want our communities to look like. So like you a liberal meets a conservative on the street, you have to say, oh well I hope you don't get as many votes for your side as we get from my side. And it's this, like you said, this bullshit fighting, you put all DC out of work let's do it it is it is it's crazy I want to get into a little bit of liberalism I I I are libertarianism you know there's things that I'm
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Starting point is 00:17:27 And once you get past that bullshit, it's like it's all gibberish. Because I'm completely down with me, I have the right to my land, my property, and I'm allowed to run that the way I want to. My problem is, it's like, when we start getting into deregulation and like, and I really really want to have to have to have to to to to to th you to to the the th you to the to that I to that I to that I want to that I want to to that I want to that I want to to to that I want you to to that, I that, I that, I that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their want to. My problem is, it's like when we start getting into deregulation and like, and I really want to have a, I want you to clarify this for me because I think I might have it wrong. You know, deregulations of a lot of stuff, I think there's common sense deregulations out there, like when you want to build a deck on your patio, right? You shouldn't have to get 90 permits to do that. That is all bullshit. That is called a fee of entry. I think we could all agree that there should be some sort of elimination of fee fee of entry, which is something we've
Starting point is 00:18:17 seen the medical community where doctors try to become doc, they go through, they go through schooling and they're so in debt. They have to play ball with big pharmaceuticals who put them in these positions and they can't really do anything other than become drug dealers and you know, so I'm completely against that. I do wonder it's like where, where do we get when the, how do we counter giant business? Like that's a big problem right now. When you look at, when you talk socialism and libertarianism, you're talking like one-payer health care. That seems to be the big thing. And the problem right now with the American health care system is it is a profit
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Starting point is 00:19:40 does not counter big pharmaceuticals. We cannot argue, you can, you know, everybody wants to get excited about gay black guy Booker running, huh? You know, he voted against Americans being able to go to Canada to get cheaper drugs. You know, I mean, like, how do we counter that? That's, that's obvious bullshit that to be, uh, to be nice about it, I guess. Yeah, so you backed a lot in that, and I definitely really powerfully agree with the problems
Starting point is 00:20:13 that you're observing here. And one is the perversion of the medical industry, and one is corporatism and the rise and concentrated wealth and power that exists under the modern banking and corporate system in the United States. And so in libertarian, just ethical philosophy, if something is stolen, it should be returned. The victim should be made whole. And I think it's really important to identify that there is theft involved here, that it's not just the taxation that is theft, but when you use corporate policies to eliminate competition to create the barriers to entry that th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, the tha, tha, the the tha, the the tha, tha, tha, the tha, you, you, you, you tha, tha, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, their, their, their, their, theyyyba, theymea, you know, you're, you know, theybuuiuia, theybuia, theybuii, they, they, that is that, but when you use corporate policies to eliminate competition, to create
Starting point is 00:20:45 the barriers to entry that favor existing large corporations, you can hire the compliance teams of lawyers and accountants, and this is why the big corporations love regulation. And what they're doing is they're stealing freedom, they're stealing opportunity, they're stealing your right as a consumer, or even to have the range of choices that the market would support without that government interference that creates these monopolies and oligopolis and the industry that's really destructive. And so part of the challenge here is we say, well, all of this property has been stolen, how do we return it to its rightful owner?
Starting point is 00:21:20 And it's almost impossible. And so in a sense, I want to say my priority is stop the stealing, stop the theft, stop the corportism, the violent advantage that governments give to certain companies that are able to buy their favor. It's a kleptocracy, face up to that, own that. And then when it comes to returning what's been stolen, I think there are two really important things and one of them is cryptocurrency. And it's kind of like fight club where you know, we're going to erase the debt record. And it's not quite that dramatic and you don't have to fight somebody fortunately for this to work. You just start having to use crypto currencies, Bitcoin, Dash, smart cash. There's so many others out there. Whatever fits your needs,
Starting point is 00:22:09 whatever is appropriate, if you just want to get started, get into Bitcoin. And it's a way to take the power away from the existing monetary system from the current banks. And that's huge. You do that. And that, you know, this is where like Facebook come in and with Libra is such a threat right now and you go, holy crap. Oh, it's garbage, dude. I just don't think people are going to buy because the people into digital currency realize what that represents. Yeah, but the people who aren't into digital currency are the ones that we have to worry about.
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Starting point is 00:23:27 You know, I don't look at it as like, oh my god, this is the end of the world. You know, going from the Federal Reserve-based system, the Bitcoin, well, maybe we gotta have an intermediary time of Libra before we really get free market money that takes away that unjust power. But, you know, like I said, I'm an optimist. I see the progress here. So anyway, the second thing is, you want to respond to that? I mean, I know that there's going to be people who are on the sidelines that are into digital currency
Starting point is 00:23:59 and they see something, maybe Facebook's going to offer the, oh because it's a good investment, but I mean like we see people, we see them putting out technology stuff all the time and there's a rejection to it. You know, I mean like there's people with Apple watches but not nearly to the number that they thought it would be. I mean people like, why do I need Apple watch when I got this? It's not, it's not. It's not. I just think that Facebook is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. We. We. their. We. We. We'. We' their. We' their. We' their. We' their. We's. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. We. the. the. We. We. the. We. the. We. the. We. the. People. People. People. People. People. People. I. People. I. I. I. I. I. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. the not, it's not, I just think that Facebook is so entrenched. That's why it's still around. I don't think people trust Facebook anymore. I don't think people want anything to do anything, and then maybe I'm wrong. But then how do we counter that as a libertarian? How do you counter the power that is Facebook? as a libertarian. How do you counter the power that is Facebook? Yeah, I tried to get off Facebook myself.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I was successfully disengaged from Facebook for about a year. And I got sucked back in. And I'd like to think I've got a pretty woke group of friends. I'd like to think that my audience is, you know, pretty well paying attention. And there are, and as, and there are. As a, as, as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, and as, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I as, I, I, I, th, th, th, th. as, th. thi thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to think that my audience is, you know, pretty well paying attention and there are alternatives out there, but it just, it's, I wanna say it's a first to market advantage, but it's not because it was second after my space, of course, and there are a lot of interesting theories around that that maybe there was someone else behind what was going on with Zuckerberg and Facebook
Starting point is 00:25:31 becoming the dominant social media network. I bet you've gotten all into that. But the other big thing that I think my campaign uniquely offers is that taking the federal government through a bankruptcy process means that we get to liquidate the assets of the federal government and return them to the american people through social security as a as a as a spun off public trust they would simply exist to disperse those funds and on until they're paid out the debt that would be the debt that the federal government has on paper is not a legitimate debt. So we would be disowning that and writing that off in the bankruptcy process.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. I want to get into your service you served in the military, and I really do respect that. I, um, I'm very, I have this weird thing because I really respect military and people who serve, but I feel that we are using and abusing our servicemen and women. We're turning them into stormtroopers for bankers. If someone can tell me why we're in Afghanistan outside of putting military people
Starting point is 00:26:40 there to guard the fucking poppy fields. Give me a reason. Yeah. It's all money in power. It's all bullshit. Right. Right. Right. I. I. I. I, right. I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that I that, I that, I that, I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that I thi to guard the fucking poppy fields. Give me a reason. Give me a reason. Yeah. It's all money and power. It's all bullshit. I'm a big fan of Smedley Butler and it's funny. Smetley Butler is one of the most decorated Marines in military history, two medals, the Bonner, multiple, you know, silver stars, Navy crosses, uh, Bronze stars, was in the World War,, a bunch of banana wars, and they teach you about that in boot camp and the Marines. They still teach you about the legendary Smedley Butler, but they don't tell you that when he
Starting point is 00:27:15 got out of the Marine Corps, he wrote a book called War I Racket, and he described himself in it as a high-class muscle man for big business. And what I think the evolution that I've gone through now is understanding what the founders advocated for when they said that they were against a standing army entirely. And this is a bit of a mind fuck for most people to really go, wow, hold on a second, let me think this through. Yeah, having a military makes you less safe. The founders were right.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And when I say that having a military makes you less safe, I don't just mean in the sense of blowback. You know, like when I was in Iraq, we made enemies faster than we could kill them. And it didn't take long to realize that the conflict was really designed that way, not to be one, of course, but to be perpetuated for the profiteers. And I'm glad there, Sam, that you didn't thank me for my service. If you know better than that, because I would say what, serving bankers and politicians and more profiteers. That's what I try to say to people, whenever I get that opportunity
Starting point is 00:28:25 to wake them up just a little bit. But the big lie that's behind militarism in the United States is something that we don't even question because it's really ingrained from elementary school even when we're taught what war is. And we're told that wars are fought between countries, as if it's America versus Japan versus Germany versus China versus right. And it's bullshit. It's absolutely nonsense when you understand what government is as a violent racket, you go, wow. Because you have to separate this.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And most Americans really have been fooled into conflating the concepts of country and government. We think of the government as a country and it's even in the mainstream media all the time. They say, America did that. And it's like, no, that wasn't America, that was the leech on our ass known as the United States Federal Government. Could agree more, could. Could not agree more. Could not agree more, man.
Starting point is 00:29:30 The big lie that is at the heart of militarism is that wars are fought between countries when the truth is that wars are governments using violence to expand their protection racket and serve their sponsors one way or another. And there's no way around it. It has always been the case, foreman dying to line Richmond's pocket. And when you realize that, you know, Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires. Why? The proof is like right here in modern history, right in front of us. How did we win the revolutionary war? Now again, this is the nationalism. Even, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:11 successful. I think it's Doug Stanhope, you know, nationalism, making you take pride and shit you never did and hate people who you've never met. It's like, even I want to say we, who won the revolutionary war, because I like the nationalism, but only the good stuff that agrees with me. And, you know, gives me a pat on the head and makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, makes me feel good about being American. But there is something to be said for the wisdom of the founders on this point of not having standing armies. That the free market, the free society, the founders on this point of not having standing armies. That the free market, the free society, the legitimate efficient defense,
Starting point is 00:30:50 and the only one for free people is a militia-based defense. Because when you tell your government, yes, we don't mind if you rule us, sure, go ahead, tax us. Bend us over as often as you feel like it will be a good little subject. That's the only reason another government wants to take you over is so that they would govern you like you're being governed now and in the United States everybody's afraid of China taking over when you present this and it's like, wait, you mean, if China got rid of our government and have to start from scratch, I think we would be thanking them. So the truth is that. I completely completely completely completely completely completely the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the-I the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I their their. I their. their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. to. to. to. to. to. to. te. to. to. t. t start from scratch I think we would be thanking them. So the truth is that I completely agree with you I completely agree with you man there is this this fucking conflating of that you know what the US
Starting point is 00:31:34 government does we have to co-sign on and that's total complete bullshit man it's my argument for Israel it's like people want to go crazy on Israel I know a lot of Israelis they ain't doing any they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to get get get get get get get get to get get to get to get get to get get to get to get th the they they they they they they they they they they they they's like, people want to go crazy on Israel. I know a lot of Israelis, dude. They ain't doing any, they, they get propaganda, fucking shoved down their throats that gets them to convince everybody around them fucking hates them. And now there is some fucking geopolitical shit going on, but they are the fucking victims of fucking propaganda that gets them to fucking have identity politics with these fucking lizards way up top man who are making the real deal like I did not fucking illegally go into Iraq okay I did not when I say that Israel was one of the
Starting point is 00:32:17 the the people that were part of 9-11 I'm not saying Israelis were I'm saying these dark arts fucking Massoud Fucking lizard people. It's the same thing. It's the same thing is here man. We're conflating People are people. Okay, and they just want to laugh and drink and get their dick wet and Fuck in it and feed their family. That's what they fucking want, man. This conflating that, you know, either with us or against us, bullshit that we do with this, dude, dude, we are in all these countries for no other reason than to steal their natural resources.
Starting point is 00:32:58 If you are trying to convince me, this is about freedom and safety. You're lying. You're lying and you had your head up your ass for fucking two decades. I love that message in your stand-up and how that's that really permeates in your understanding. I got to ask you a question. Are you a fan of the Bullworth theory? What's the Bullworth theory? What's the Bullworth theory? I don't know if it's actually called that or if I just that up up up up up up that that that that you that you you you you you you you you you you you theory? What's the Bullworth theory? I don't know if it's actually called that or if I just made that up. But you know the movie Bullworth?
Starting point is 00:33:31 I do know the movie Bullworth. What's the theory? We just all got to keep fucking each other till we're all the same color. Boom. Dude, we all need to fuck until we all look Filipino. That's my opinion. We're all going to eventually look Filipino, knock the bottom out. He's halfway there, dude. This guy looks like he loves to sing karaoke songs and bands on naval bases. That's how I know he's Philippine. I've never been called Filipino. You are.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Trust me, you're Filipino. For this take of this war thing going on. What we've had since, and this is questionable, whether George Bush Jr. was even in the military, nobody saw him there. You add Obama, no military service, and now we have Trump, no military service. Is it better to have a military person in there? Or is there some brainwashing going on that they think might is right? What's your opinion on that? Yeah, it depends. And there are a lot of different conflating factors.
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Starting point is 00:35:34 from Afghanistan, and there were two National Guard commanders who got up and spoke against it. These are Republicans speaking out against policy proposed by the president to keep troops in Afghanistan longer. And I was shocked. It was kind of a reality check for me because I think a lot of people who have been in combat are propelled towards libertarianism, because they go, where was the ethics lacking in this? And they seek that ethical message. So, not necessarily. I mean, I think it's, it's, it's it's it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. the. the. true. true. true. true. true. true. the the the the the the the the they. the the the the was the ethics lacking in this? And they seek that ethical message.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So not necessarily. I mean, I think it's, I don't think I offer, you know, anything more truth because I saw the horrors of war up close and that motivated me a certain way and propelled me to find out certain truths for myself. I think what I offer as a candidate is someone, you know, should I be the Libertarian Party nominee who can appeal to the people who would say, well, you're un-American or you never saw shit or, you know, no, sorry, I was in pollution in 2004.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I saw Marines die. I saw Iraqis die. It was bullshit. And it took me a while to figure that out. But I figured it out. And the soon the rest of the world figures it out, the better off we'll be. Yeah, I can't agree more. And the biggest thing that people need to our sons and our daughters who are on the front line.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Those go to, those go to fucking military contracts, dude. And they are just reaping fucking cash. And I don't know how they could spend all this fucking money, man. It's so much. They never spend it a million lifetimes. And they just keep, because they're psychopaths, man. It's so much they never spent it a million lifetimes and they just keep to because they're psychopaths man. They're psychopaths and it's like it's really sad that those two guys stood up because you could actually go dude we have seen that dark forces are behind this global terrorism okay that you know over and over we find that the CIA funds. A lot of these people we're fighting. Donald Trump selling those arms to Saudi, guess where those arms are going?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Two places, to fucking slaughter Yemen and continue to genocide. And the second one is, to ISIS, who will be fighting our sons and daughters? Yeah. I mean, this is disgusting. It's a loss. I mean, well, Sam, there's one idea. And, you know, Xavier, if you've never heard of this, this is so important and this is really critical to my worldview and to how I have come to understand political progress in the sense to words, the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thean the the thean, thean, thin and thin, thin, thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, the the the the thi, the the the and the and the and the and thin, thin, thin, the thin, thin, the thin, the to thin, the thin, thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, and this is really critical to my worldview and to how I have come to understand political progress in the sense towards more freedom and less war, more harming, more cooperation, globally.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Professor Stephen Pinker from Harvard did a great head talk on this based on his book, The Better Angels of Our Nature called the Surprising Decline in Violence. And what he has proven, academically, irrefutably, and there are different theories about this, but what he has proven that really is irrefutable is that, at least in the categories that he's examining of human violence and conflict, violence is on the decline and follows a kind of radioactive decay curve throughout human history. We are living the most peaceful times ever. You are less on the decline and follows a kind of radioactive decay curve throughout human history. We are living the most peaceful times ever.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You are less likely today than ever before to experience violence with hands of another human being. And there are those who would dismiss this and say, well, look at how big government is, look at how much it controls our lives. Well, a lot of libertarians and conservatives, at least have this one thing genuinely in common, is that we make the mistake of assuming that big government is always worse than small government.
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Starting point is 00:40:14 1% of the population, but it murders every first-born child, and you go, oh yeah, no shit. And it's that the evil of government is not measured by its size, but rather how much it violently takes us off our natural, the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business to the business to to to the business to have the business to have the business to have the business to have the business the business to have to have the business to have the business to have to have to have to have to have the business to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the business the it's that the evil of government is not measured by its size, but rather how much it violently takes us off our natural state of harmony. And in that sense, humanity is progressing. And I think it gets better every day. I agree with that. I'm also going to say some that government is not a thing.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It is a, it is a paradigm, meaning there's no government. Like if a government's in the building, right, the White House, you know, if the government, you burn down the White House, there's still government. It's a paradigm, dude. And we talk about government, like it's a thing. What it is is we have corrupt individuals who are manipulating the paradigm. And they've created a system that has caused us to be fucking paying attention to shit over here, and now what's going on over here. And it's gotten so well done so well.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But the problem is it's starting to fail. Because they're not smart people. They're very dumb. Psychopast can't create. They're not creators, okay? Analytical people. They can create like software, but they can't create like fucking ideas. Do you understand what I'm saying? That sounded really dumb right there, but like these psychopaths, they can't create stuff that will get a new way of lying to us. So they keep running the same thing because they're not smart to mix it up. They're not smart. Yeah, they're a psychopath. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 This is why technology is such an important concept in this is that the way and I don't know that I don't know if I go so far as to say that the psychopaths can't create or be creative but or even that the I mean there are genius psychopath that in a very competitive industry of political power who get up there who are capable of great evil and even great organizational accomplishments like we see today. And I would not underestimate them in that sense, but here's what's shifting, and it's the awareness of the internet. I mean, it's podcasts like this. It's the conversation that is made possible on the internet. And the fact that their kids, you think about the super class as a whole, like the Rockefellers, the warbugs, you know, the, the several, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the fact that their kids, you think about the superclass as a whole, like the Rockefellers, the warbugs, you know, the several thousand, you know, most powerful families in the world, their kids are growing up with the same internet that we are. And the things that drive them to that evil, the ability of their parents to pass on that psychopathy, because even psychopathy is in a sense, something that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can them to that evil, the ability of their parents to pass on that psychopathy. Because even psychopathy is in a sense something that could be passed on behaviorally.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And that effect is going away. The motivation for control and power and dominance, even that is going away, is just as humanity gets wealthier. And so that's, that gives me a lot of hope. I think it's not that that they're failing because they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not creating their their that that gives me a lot of hope. I think it's not that that they're failing because they're not creating. It's just that people are waking up faster than they can keep us to sleep. Yeah, I mean like if you look at Bill Gates, he's been accused of stealing his operating system. Steve Jobs accuses
Starting point is 00:43:40 stealing a bunch of ideas. Mark what Mark Zuckerberg accused is stealing his idea. I mean, we've seen at the highest levels at these people, that I just don't think they're creative. And that, they're good enough to see a good idea and they're good enough to fucking see it through. That's my opinion. I want to talk about. I don't mean to dismiss that.
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Starting point is 00:44:31 They're stuck in their old way. And they're thinking, you know, the whole reason Hillary Clinton's emails got out is because she's an old bitch. And she doesn't know how to use the internet. And she sent out, like, dude, rule number one of the internet, don't fucking email about crime. You know, it's like dumb fucks who like take pictures of themselves with all the money they robbed from a bank and put it on Facebook. It's like, you're dumb, dude. And like, she's just old.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So they like emailed all this crime. And it's, it's catching up because they're not smart. They can't, like, dude, they pulled this shit on us to get us in Iraq, and now they think they could pull it again to get it into fucking Iran, and it's not going to happen. Who knows it's going to happen? I think we have taxed. Well, no, it's what they can get away with gets smaller over time. We're going to lie him into World War I and World War II. And I honestly think. I'm that's that's that's that's they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're going they're going they're going they're going that. to they're going to to that. that. to to to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. that. that. that. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. to happen. I'm to to to to th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's not. that's not that's not that's not to to that's not. I mean you go back and read that history. If you think that those wars
Starting point is 00:45:25 were just and legitimate on the other side, I honestly think most wars are false flagged. That most people don't want to fight and it's just like these rich fucking assholes want to take all the money. So Vietnam, scaled down, Gulf Force scaled down, global war on terror, scale down. And it's harder to lie to us and get away with it and what they can get away with is only on a much smaller scale. They can still have Donald Trump sending, you know, scud missiles or whatever they are all over the place that costs, you know, tens of millions of dollars each, whatever it is, it's just insane. But the idea of a force on force war or a bunch of people line up in the middle of the
Starting point is 00:46:11 field where none of them lived to kill each other, because they're wearing different colors, sorry, not in the age of the internet. It used to be conquering. You used to conquer a whole fucking place and that was yours.. their. to, to, their, to, their, their, th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I's, th. thus, their, their their their, their, their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, a their, a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, th. We's, th. We's, thus, thus, thus, tho.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, the the the the the the th place and that was yours. Now we just fight over and over. No, wait, because these people, because our government is hijacked by people don't want an end. They want continuously buying their products. Well, when I thought we went to Iraq, I literally thought, okay,
Starting point is 00:46:35 we're gonna get a new state out there. When I was a kid, that'sto conquer this place. Used to conquer this. This is not a house. We're going to open some whore houses, place to do drugs. I literally thought this was going to happen. When I was a kid I was like, oh we're going to war with Iraq. I was like what? And like, fucking nine or eight? I was like, holy shit, we worked in the shadow government of our government to create this military industry product, they're doing it all now with China.
Starting point is 00:47:09 You know, Israel, which is just the only reason, Israel, it's not about religion, they tell you it's about so you fight over it, but it's about a land bridge. That allows the easiest way to get goods from Asia and Africa to Europe. And they're just locking it down. And that's, if it was about religion, why would they give China a giant port there? Because it's about business, dude. It's about business and these lizard motherfuckers run the shit. But I want to get down to, um, I want to talk about crime, the other industrial complex that's destroying this country, which is like privatized prisons, ridiculous laws
Starting point is 00:47:47 that are ran by rich people. Like dude, I'm sorry, drugs, prostitution should be legal. And I know some people have weird reactions to that, but it's like, dude, you should not be going to jail for doing drugs, okay? If you steal to get drugs, that's a crime. That's called theft. If you do drugs yourself, that's to yourself, okay? There's no law against destroying your life, all right? Because I would be a fucking three-time felon. All right? There's no laws against that,
Starting point is 00:48:20 all right? But let me tell you something, if you arrest me and you throw me in jail and you . and you hit thrown thrown thrown the the and you're the and you're the the in jail and you're, th.. the the the the the the the the throwne throwne throwne throwne throwne throwne, throwne, throes, throes, okay, okay, throes, throes, throes, throes, throes, throes, throes, throes, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thr-a.a. Ife, throwne, thr-a. If you something if you arrest me and you throw me in jail and you hit me with a felony I can stop doing drugs I can't stop being a felon and that fucking makes my life and ten times worse easily easily easily can't get a job it's so hard it's like dude I get I get drugs man we don't want to legalize heroin we don't want to legalize heroin. We don't want to legalize meth. But guess what, man? We could figure out a way to decriminalize it so that people get hooked on it. Don't end up paying a price longer even if they get sober. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Your thoughts? Well, yeah, this is what you said, we don I want people to do them. I'm not pro-drug or anti-drug. I'm pro-healthy, conscientious, enjoyable drug use for whatever does it for you. And if there's no victim, there's no crime. And it's the same thing with sex. You know, I'm pretty vanilla as far as things go, but I don't want any rules on you in your bedroom or who you're allowed to make loves to or anything like that. And while it's sort of like, again,
Starting point is 00:49:28 the aesthetics versus the ethics, like, I don't want meth to be legal, but I don't want to use violence of the state against someone for using meth, that's insane. And I think just getting to that core ethical concept makes it a little easier to understand and to separate to separate to separate the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the getting to that core ethical concept makes it makes it a little easier to understand and to separate ourselves from the racket of government as a whole. Okay, outside of murder, outside of theft, okay, outside of violence, okay? A lot of things should be legal and I know it sounds crazy, but it's like, dude, someone doing drugs,
Starting point is 00:50:05 as much as you don't like that, it's not causing you any problems. Prostitution is a poor people crime, because in LA we see all these billboards for sugar dating. That is what rich girls do. Rich girls become sugar daters. Poor girls become streetwalkers. It's just a fact. Hey, listen, oh well, Mary mentioned me that then, fine, and I know you're not going to
Starting point is 00:50:31 agree with this, but make it a rule that married guys can't get hookers. Fine, whatever it is, but you know, having a fairer, you know, they're a contract. You want to get a marriage in government. No one's going to get married these hookers hookhookhookhookhookhookhookhookhookhookhaw hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook hook. I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I that. I that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. th a marriage in government. No one's going to get married if these hookers. I think that is a big fear that everything will become a transaction. But my point is that even if you don't like something, it doesn't mean it should be illegal. And the thought about paying for sex, it's like some guy who's older got cash in her pocket, this chick needs to pay rent, let's just, or this guy, or th, or th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, thi, tho, that's, that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, that's that's thi, that's that's that's that's tho-a, that's tho-a, tho-a'' is thooan, thooo-a' is that, thi, her pocket, this chick needs to pay rent, let's just, or this guy needs to pay rent. Work it out, man, it's capitalism. You say that shit, you say, what is it?
Starting point is 00:51:12 You don't like abortions? Don't fucking to abortion. Yeah, that's my opinion, because it's not going away. And all you're doing these people into dark alleys where it gets really un-fucking safe. So what would you do with that? What would you do with all those crimes? Well, Sam, this is where I've got to be humble and say, you know, I'm not a central planner. I'm not going to answer all these questions and solve all of everybody's problems.
Starting point is 00:51:39 What I'm pushing is the first step in localization. And dissolving the federal government sounds like a big deal. We're talking only about 3 million people out of 22 million who work for government at the state and local and federal level together. And a lot of those 3 million jobs that we're going to eliminate are going to be recreated at the state government at least temporarily. I mean, we might be talking about getting rid of as few as one in ten government jobs. It's not that much, but what it allows for in getting government down
Starting point is 00:52:10 to the state level is a customization of your government experience. I mean, the ultimate goal is to get it down to the point where every individual on your private property, you have the right to opt out entirely. But like say you really don't like drugs and you find a bunch of other people who don't like drugs and you want to have a community where drugs aren't allowed and you all voluntarily agree as each other's neighbors. There's dry counties. We're going to sign a contract. It's going to be a private agreement between us as neighbors and we're going to call this a drug-free neighborhood and and if you violate thrown the neighborhood. That's fine. I'm th. We th. We th. We th. We th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we to th, we're to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. to the th. th. the th. th. th. the the the the th. th. the th. the th. the the thr. thr. thr. thrug. toe. toe. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to know, you get kicked out of the neighborhood or you pay a fine to the eighth away or something like that. I'm totally fine with that.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'm totally fine with that. I mean, there's dry counties where you can't drink alcohol. Alcohol is legal in this country. Yeah, don't like it. I mean, it doesn't go away. What if we outlawed once that went away? Nothing. But we got to stop violence and theft, okay? Those are the things we got to stop because those hurt other people. So this is again, libertarianism really explains what you're talking about so well very precisely
Starting point is 00:53:24 with this idea of self-ownership as the foundation of ethics and others is sometimes described as natural law, right? So you own yourself as an independent consciousness in your own body. That's an observation of reality. That's not just a construct. If ownership is that absolute inherent control, there's nothing that you own more than yourself. And this is why it's wrong to violate someone else's self-ownership. So it's wrong to interfere with you exercising your rights, your freedoms. It's wrong to hit you.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Because you own your body, you also own the product of your labor. And this gets to the blocking concept of property rights. If you mix your labor with natural resources, your labor is in it....... to, to, to, to violate, to, to violate, to, the the to violate, and the to violate is, and the the to violate is the their, to violate, to violate, their to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, the their to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate to violate, violate to violate, violate, violate, violate, violate to violate, violate, violate, violate, violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, to violate, the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their the product of your labor. And this gets to the blocking concept of property rights. If you mix your labor with natural resources, your labor is in it. And this is, there's some subjectivity here, right? Like I can put up a fence around here in Arizona and say, this is my homestead. I own this, I own this, I'm working this. But I couldn't put up a fence around a million acres like a lot of corporations do in different program samples and say, well I own all this because I put up a fence around it.
Starting point is 00:54:27 But if you have property that you've acquired legitimately through developing actual resources on your own or through trade you sold your labor or you bought something or bartered for something, then you own that as much as an extension of yourself as anything and so it's just as wrong to violate that. And this is where you go, well, hey, if there's not a victim, there's no crime. If I don't hurt anybody, if I'm using my own property in a way, then no one else is affected. And you come and interfere with that,
Starting point is 00:54:56 then you're the criminal. We live under a criminal government government. Dude, I agree with it, man. I totally 100% agree with it. Now, I've seen you've been arrested a couple times for weed, for social disobedience. Dancing. Dancing. How did you get arrested for dancing? Oh, man. In, how far back does this go?
Starting point is 00:55:22 So this was 2011 when this happened with me, a long time ago before that, there was a flash mob. And by the way, I think it's deliciously ironic that flashmobs were a relatively fleeting social phenomena. But there was a flash mob proposed by a group of libertarians to celebrate Thomas Jefferson's birthday where they went out at midnight. Headphones in, we're going to dance, we're going to do a little thing. They're happy birthday, Thomas Jefferson, and then we're going to leave. And as they were doing this, one of the United States Park police came up to them and said, you guys have to leave, you're not allowed to do this year without a permit.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And they started walking out. And the last girl in line in this group, she's like dancing as she's walking out of there, you know. And the guy grabs her and goes, no, you're under arrest. What a piece of shit. Yeah, yeah, your tax dollars are work America. Would you get rid of, um, uh, the gun, sorry. Yeah, no, freedom of expression, and, and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:56:35 the Jefferson Monument of all places, that great champion of free speech. And so this went actually to appeal, and it was, uh, I think it was a district court judge upheld the original decision charging her with a federal violation, and it wasn't even a misdemeanor. It was like a code violation, for dancing a restricted area, because it was not appropriately reverent enough. As in, you must bow down at the gods of government, even though it's Thomas Jefferson, the one who said,
Starting point is 00:57:10 bow down to nobody. And so a couple friends of mine, Eddie Frey and Jared Denman put together the dance party at TJ's protest. We went back and we danced. And this was the video that went super viral in 2011 of me getting choked, slammed by a cop. I was picked up from behind and a bear hug and then like thrown kind of over his hip. And as I was in midair, he grabbed me by the neck and slammed me on this marble floor.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And if I hadn't been a Marine Corps rugby player, like me, I'm gonna tuck the chin and slap the ground floor and if I hadn't been a Marine Corps rugby player I knew to tuck the chin and slap the ground and how to take a fall like that you know I would have whipped my head back and and cracked it open on the marble there and he put his knee in my ribs and you can see in the video like his knee goes I mean you go holy crap I had even I was like I didn't realize that was happening I didn't know ribs were that flexible because it looks like his knee goes all you know all the way to my spine. It's it's pretty intense. Unbelievable. But I was I was just I was just bruised up. It wasn't bad you know nothing worse than a rugby game for sure. You know my grandfather was a cop. My cousin's a cop, I have a, I'm very, I have a soft spot
Starting point is 00:58:28 for cops. But I do know that when they come to crack down on disobedience, it's the cops that they send. And these cops crack skulls for a paycheck. They hit their brothers, their sisters, their fucking countrymen, crack their fucking skulls. You gotta stop flipping off people now since you can't be dancing. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Guys dancing, she's dancing? I mean, get a fucking life. Get a life! I was afraid for saying they were going to say your wife was a cop, too. No, dude, no, I couldn't do that. I'm too much of a fucking crazy person. But, but uh, but, but, but, but, but, but, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that would be, uh, no, no, I couldn't do that. I'm too much of a fucking crazy person. But, uh, yeah, it's just disgusting. Would you get rid of, uh,
Starting point is 00:59:12 the rule that you can't fire a federal employee? Oh, well, I wouldn't have to get rid of the rule because I'm going to fire all of the federal employees. Boom, as soon as I said, oh, oh, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's that's that's th. th. that's threat. that's thi. thi. thi. thi, as soon as I said, I know, oh, that's stupid. Well, one of the mechanisms of this that I think is really cool is that on day one, we declare that the federal government is of no authority, that it is in bankruptcy now. It is a custodial institution. I resign from the presidency to become custodian of the federal government with the fiduciary responsibilities of a bankruptcy agent but from day one federal laws are unenforced, unenforceable. And by the way the thing about the Jefferson Dance Party, I've done a lot of civil
Starting point is 00:59:59 disobedience but this was really the most successful in terms of changing policy and and I didn't know until after this was really the most successful in terms of changing policy. And I didn't know until after this happened, but Thomas Jefferson was actually known as the dancing president. Like he would bust out his fiddle at the White House and has all these great quotes about how good dancing is for young people, just to lay on the irony. But we actually beat the charges in court just by standing up and being a pain in the but for half a day.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And we got the policy change. You can now go back and it's totally symbolic. I don't care. I'm involved in, and I actually have some pending legal cases that I can't comment on right now where I'm working on stuff that's of actual legal precedent significant. But there was a certain beauty in the simple elegance of this that we won. And if you go back to the Jefferson Monument today, you will not be arrested for dancing.
Starting point is 01:00:50 They know better now. You've had a successful radio show, you are RT America. What's your thoughts on RT? I think it's the Russian government poking the American government in the eye, and I was grateful to be a part of that finger for a short period of time. But you are becoming a finger of the Russian government when you work for our tee, and that's probably why I only lasted four months there. I had a deal with them where I had absolute editorial control over my show, and they genuinely respected that.
Starting point is 01:01:27 There's only one caveat, that they have the chirons, the titling on the bottom of the screen, and when I interviewed Ron Paul, I wanted it to say, future president of the United States of America. And they said, no, you can't do that, you can only do serious titles on the titles because it's credibility of the network.
Starting point is 01:01:47 But I was critical of Putin in a deliberate way to be sort of balanced. And I think it was more that at some point, they realized, wait a second, this guy is not just against the American government. He's against the concept of government. Because, as we know it, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's a it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a the, it's a, it's a, it's a, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their, a their their their, a their, a their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their the against the American government. He's against the concept of government because as we know it's a government is an institution of violent control. There's no way around that.
Starting point is 01:02:13 It's all about control. Tell us about your book freedom. Well, since I now don't have to do the shameless plug at the end, I appreciate that. I started writing this book when I was in jail after the shotgun incident in 2013. What happened with the shotgun incident? I recorded a video of myself loading a shotgun in the ironically named Freedom Plaza, two clocks away from the White House. And it was 20 seconds of glory and it was enough
Starting point is 01:02:48 to get my home raided. My door beat down a flashbang grenade thrown at my dog. And two helicopters over my house. What? Ultimately, they sent more men after me than they sent after bin Laden. Yeah. They were of a much more caliber in a number of ways, and they were more interested probably in justifying their budget than anything.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And I do find it particularly embarrassing that of all the federal agencies for me to be in kind of a spat with or to have a rivalry with. I get the United States Park Police. The Drake, the federal law enforcement barrel, the FBI Academy dropouts, and I wonder if they're going to hear this. But I don't particularly care. There are plenty of good people who work in the Park Police, but there are a lot of bad ones who do, you know, crowd control and protester control and stuff like that around the Capitol. So, I was in jail for four months and people send me all these great books about libertarianism
Starting point is 01:03:57 and ethics and philosophy and economics, and I realized that there had been a transformation that I went through. I was the libertarian when I enlisted in the Marine Corps, but I didn't know what it meant. I was a libertarian by default. Like, I'm not going to be a Republican or Democrat. That's totally fucking lame. What are my options teacher? You know, and it was like, oh, you can be a libertarian. They like, you know, punk kid, tine, that's tine, tine, tine, tine, tine, tine, tine, thi, tine, thi, ti, ti, ti, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. I thi, thi, th. I th. I th. I th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I th. And, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I was, and I'm, and I'm thi, and I'm thi. And, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, togeeean, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, and, and it was like, oh, you can be a libertarian. They like, they like, you left alone. I was like, yeah, you know, punk kid timing up for that. And it wasn't until even, you know, I got back from Iraq and some years had passed that I was really fully propelled by that experience to get to the bottom of the rabbit hole on this understanding of freedom as an ethical principle, rather than a political aesthetic or even a political message. So what I saw was that all these books
Starting point is 01:04:50 that people had sent me, I read a lot of them already and so I was giving them out the other inmate, which was a lot of fun. But what I realized was that there was an opportunity to be the very best rip-off artist in the freedom movement and take all of the best ideas out of these books and all of the best features and qualities of these books, all of their strengths, none of their weaknesses, and combine them into one ultimate book that would be short and easy to understand and the quickest way to convert people to this worldview. And if I may just say one thing about that, you know, there, well, I used to use this flat
Starting point is 01:05:34 earth analogy before flat earthers became a thing again and they kind of ruined it for me, but basically people used to think the earth was flat in the center of the universe and then someone came along and said no maybe it's round and it's not the center of the universe and they had done all of this complicated math and made all of these equations to justify the crazy observed orbits of planetary bodies in the flat earth model and then someone said no look it's it's it's round it's not the center of the universe and look all of all of the th. th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, maybe, th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, th, th, th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, model. And then someone said, no, look, it's round. It's not the center of the universe. And look, all of the math gets so much simpler.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Everything makes sense. It's really easy now. And still people had to go over the equation again and again and go, well, yeah, in order to displace this way more complex model that they had put all this thought into and justification into. And that's really where we are with statism and government today, and that, you know, especially even someone like you, you got a lot of family members who were cops. You know, you'd probably have a whole other set of thoughts and feelings around these issues.
Starting point is 01:06:45 If say you had a family member who was killed as a cop by, you know, who was doing the right thing as a cop. Because, you know, it does happen. And similarly, all of us, uh, who haven't at least achieved this level of awareness. And I was really bad, you know, Uramarink or I put my life on the line to the system. It better be fucking right this. And it took me 10 years to displace that model. And so I wrote the book freedom to be the most sufficient way for people to go,
Starting point is 01:07:24 okay, yeah, we don't have to keep making excuses for government. It really is fundamentally unethical from the ground up. Well man, this has been a wonderful episode. I do love cops. I do find it hilarious though that these people on the left want to take away guns and give them to cops. When two years ago they were crying about cops shooting everybody. And it, and it, and it, and it, it, the, the, the the the they, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's thi, it's like, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thito cops when two years ago they were crying about cops shooting
Starting point is 01:07:46 everybody and it's like oh well you you want to give them the guns you were just telling me how dangerous cops are now you're telling me they are the only ones who should have guns it's a crazy crazy thing it's a crazy thing and I love what you do man you. You got my vote, dude. I wasn't even going to vote, but now I'm going to vote. And you got my vote, dude. I'm going to come vote. Well, thank you, brother. Who's the vice president pick going to be, dude?
Starting point is 01:08:11 Who are you going to go with, man? Well, there are a few that have in serious running right now but there are a lot of great options for people to be the last that you'll never need. Kanye West dude you want to win Kanye West you Kanye 20 say call it burn everything down. Platform I'd be I'd be I'd he's in the running for sure. But I just want to say that the Libertarian primary is not determined by any government-held elections or votes. It's all determined by people who show up to the national convention as delegate.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And it's embarrassingly easy to be a delegate to the libertarian national convention. And so if you want to be a part of this, please sign up. It takes a little bit more than just saying, hey, we'll vote in the general if you get the nomination. We really do need to make sure that this is the future for the Libertarian movement in the party and that Americans have a real choice besides, you know, asshole A, assuble A, thi, or a, or a, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, the, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, the...... the. the me say, man, I'm just, I'm grateful for this, this opportunity. Every time you talk, I'm like, I know that voice, I know that voice. I hear that voice while I'm driving in it.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I love it. So, if people can remember how to spell my funny last name. It's put in the freedom line.com, KOKESH, but it's easier to find me through my main website, the freedom line.com. My book is free in every digital format possible there, including audio book. Oh, thank you. You can get it also on Amazon. We made it about as cheap as possible there. And I really appreciate everybody who's always supported my activism and made it possible for me to do this. I'm doing Adam versus the man now putting out videos five days a week and then getting back into the swing of things with that. It's just, it's been, for me now, let's see, it was November 30,
Starting point is 01:10:18 2006, I got out of the Marine Corps, March 19, 2007 was my start with Iraq Veterans Against the War. It's been a little over 12 years now of full-time activism. And I've put everything I can in this. I've been arrested more times than I can count. I've got greyhound buses way more times than I want to count getting from place to place, but it's all been worth it to make it happen to be a part of this. And I've spent a lot of time in my activism as an independent journalist. And if there's anybody who's still listening to my voice all the way into this podcast,
Starting point is 01:10:57 share this show, support independent media, support this podcast, support the people who are that you believe in, because their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the message out that you believe in, put your money where your ears are, at least, because we don't qualify for government's approved corporate sponsorship. We put it milder. Thanks to your friend. Thank you so much. Again, dude. You came, you saw you kicked a whole lot of ass.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Adam Kokesh, you're G. I appreciate you coming on. Go to his website Adam Kokesh, was it Kokesh for president dot com? No, the Freedom Line dot com. No, this is Khrush. The freedom line. Okay, the. These freedom line. the freedom line.
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