Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #212: The Creepy Line With Matt Taylor

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

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Starting point is 00:05:11 just had Trump have a big, you know, press conference talking about social media and tech companies. He invited all the quote-unquote, right to attend, okay? So, this is a very important discussion. Our next guest, he's helped make movies like Clinton Cash, which sounds really good right now. I'm sure a couple years ago when he did it, he got beat up by the press, but now, look who's looking good. This guy, right here, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:39 And he's got a movie out called The Creepy Line. Okay, please welcome filmmaker Matt Taylor how are you Matt hey how you doing great to be here today super excited thank you for coming on thank you all for everything you do man I I appreciate it uh what was the first movie ever made oh geez I went to art school I used to make a bunch of short films. So I made all sorts of weird stuff and, you know, strapping cameras to my hands and jumping off things and taking that footage and turning it into weird music videos.
Starting point is 00:06:16 That's kind of where it all began and you kind of see it through the films I make now. Everything's very kind of kind of, you know, pulls from those ideas. So that's kind of the long, I guess some television work, you know, I've done short form, long form, but I think it kind of has culminated in this creepy line documentary since it's the topic of the day. It is the topic of the day, my friend, this, that couldn't be couldn't that couldn't that couldn't that couldn't be couldn't be that couldn't be that couldn't be that couldn't be, that couldn't be, the that couldn't be, the topic of the day. It is the topic of the day my friend. This the couldn't be better
Starting point is 00:06:46 Time for this episode because I think people are really starting to get real tired of everything going out of Google I mean to be honest to you. I'm hardly on Facebook anymore. You on Facebook? No, there's no point. Aaron do you do Facebook? Yes, of course Aaron? Of course, yeah, of course, yeah, I got off that long. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the th. the th. to. to to be to be to be to be to be the the the to be to be to be today. to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. th. th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. ti. toda. today. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today. today. today. I got off that long time ago. I mean, I post my shows and all that stuff, but what we're seeing are, basically, I want to get into a creepy line in two seconds. I want to talk about Clinton Cash real quick. You know, I live in Los Angeles for the last three years I've been telling everybody that the Clintons are just pure evil fox. Everybody thought I was nuts. I get labeled a Trump supporter and you may be a Trump supporter. I have no problems with that. I just I don't support anybody. I I think we should hold all of our presidents
Starting point is 00:07:33 accountable. Our politician should be all held accountable. We shouldn't have some identity politics with them. When it comes to them, we should question everything they do. But I was getting called out as being like an idiot. You know, people didn't want to talk to me. I was at the comedy store, people put hands on me. What made you make this movie? Clinton Cash, we'll get into obviously.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Hold on. Go on, sorry. When you're running the president, you know, you should be fully vetted. And not just whether it's the other side, you should be better by your own side as well. You know, and so I think that what that film does essentially is show that she has compromised the principles of her own party. You know, it's not a, it's not a right wing film. It's not a film about conservative values. It's a film about democratic values and how she kind of threw them all away or sold them all off. So that was really for the Bernie Sanders supporters.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It was really for her own people to sit there and say, hey, look, is this the person we want? I couldn't agree. Well, ultimately, it came out when essentially Sanders was probably being jipped out of being the nominee. And so, and you say, well, how did it happen? Well, here's a film that tells you how it happened. One hundred percent, you know, the whole thing was like, you know, if we know anything about history, we know that we thought the Bushes and the, and the, the Clintons were like like enemies. But they were all working together, you know, they hauled in all the cocaine through Arkansas because it's ranked 50th and everything, so nobody
Starting point is 00:09:12 was paying attention. So that's where the, and that's kind of where the relationship started. They knew he was corrupt and would play ball. Her family's supposedly involved in organized crime from way back in the day, you know, I'm not, who am I to judge, but you know, the the the the they's, the the the they..... It's they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they's they's they's they's just, they's just, they's just, they's they. they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're they. they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're the back in the day, you know, I'm not, who am I to judge, but you know, it's just like she's always been shady and there was that whole feeling that, you know, the Koch brothers basically brought the Clintons in to bring the party to the center and to the right. Now, you know, when you talk to people out here they can't come the grips with when you're talking about about the the the the cl cl cl cl cl. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, th. th. thi. th. thi. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, to the toe toe th th the th the thi. It's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's th th to people out here they can't come to grips with. When you're talking about the Clintons, you're not talking about liberals, you're not talking about the
Starting point is 00:09:47 DNC. I'm actually I want to say I think the DNC and the liberals are two different things. Now my liberals are the old-fashioned liberals, you know the ones who want civil rights and all that make, you know, eight-year-olds drag queens and all that bullshit, you know, none of that, but, you know, I'm a liberal at heart. But I saw this hijacking and you really take a look at like what the Clintons and what the Bushes did to this country. I mean, like, Bush was involved basically, and this is thetwo presidential assassinations, both JFK and his family at dinner with the family of the guy who shot Reagan. They ate dinner with him the night before.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I mean, the Hinkley's were old friends of Bush's way back in the day. So, I mean, they ushered in a very dark, dark time that we're dealing with as we speak. And the Clint's were no different than that. I the clans thensensensens were actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually the ones the ones the ones the ones the ones the ones the ones the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. I was, th. I was, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It, th. th. It, th. It, th. It's, th. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's the the. I mean like the clins were they actually the ones who passed a law which banned marriage, the defense of, excuse me, banned gay gay marriage act which made gay marriage illegal. I mean the things they did were not quote-unquote liberal values man. They were fucking fucking but now she goes back on it oh no no no she lies yeah just lies everything so now now would Jeffrey Epstein this is going to be the second time he's convicted and this will be
Starting point is 00:11:16 the third basically third party that she is the clean global initiative has been involved with that has been arrested, tried, and convicted of sex trafficking, child sex trafficking. At some point you have to be, she'd have to be the most unlucky human being on the planet to be surrounded by so many pettos and not know it. Do you know I'm saying? It's like, it's, what we are seeing is the, just the destruction of a dynasty that I just find it's just, it's amazing to watch. But let's get into your new movie, the creepy line. I'm sorry about that long rant. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:58 I gotta end this and let this guy talking about, my apologies, my apologies. I just hate the Clinton so much. No problem. Creepy line, let's talk about, basically the premise of the movie is the kind of power and how it is being abused that tech companies have, and specifically Facebook and Google. Yes, that is it. The creepy line, the title, comes from an interview with Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, where he said the Google policies to get right up to the creepy line, but not cross it. And we found that to be a really bizarre choice of words, because as Jordan Peterson says in the film, the normal average person doesn't want to get near anything creepy. There's no good version of creepy.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Creepy is bad in every way. And if the CEO of the largest search company, information company, intelligence company, surveillance company in the world is saying their policy is about being creepy, that's a real problem. And that's 2010. That's nearly a decade ago, he said that line. Yeah, it is unbelievable at the highest levels. These people are, they're psychopaths.
Starting point is 00:13:14 They have no allegiance to anybody. And we'll get into, you know, some of the stuff you've discovered, you know, who they're working with. Did you look into any of the, uh, where basically these companies come from? because they both they they they they they th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that is is. Yeah. that is is. that is. Yeah. that is is is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that's is. that's is. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that is that is that is that is that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is. that is of the where basically these companies come from because they both have very interesting beginnings? Absolutely. I mean look I think that there is, it's, it's the more this generation of entrepreneurs has been shown in these Congressional and Senate hearings as guys in a garage building computers. In fact that's not really where they came from they the highest academic institutions in the garage building computers. In fact, that's not really where they came from. They came from the highest academic institutions
Starting point is 00:13:48 in the country, Sergei Brady-Barrell-Barreg, on the east coast, Mark Zuckerberg, on the east coast at Harvard. These guys were fiddling with technologies. They had government-bathing because these are institutions that are funded by the government. The internet was originally funded by the government. And early on you had entities like the Central Intelligence Agency that was obviously interested in a way to map the internet and find people and search for things. And so they've always had this kind of connection to entities in the intelligence community,
Starting point is 00:14:23 in the law enforcement community. And they've always had kind of a government hand on the things they do. They are very much in cahoots with governments, whether it's policy, whether it's pushing things on the hill, they're the large slobiists in Washington, D.C. And so for a lot of these things, they all stem from this kind of liberal arts, academic idea of changing the world.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Now, their actual motivations are different in the way that Google is more a utopian society builder and Facebook is more, you're classic, let's make a lot of money and collect, you know, collect all of the power. So, and that is where they kind of diverge. And in a way, the Google mentality of utopianism, in my opinion, is more terrifying than more of your classic greedy corporation. And so that is, that is where they started from, and they have largely achieved most of their goals, which is kind of what's brought us to the point of why we made this film. Basically in February 4th, 2004, the Pentagon stopped a program that they called LifeLog, which was the government
Starting point is 00:15:41 wanted to collect all your data for your whole life. And on that day, Facebook was basically founded. was the government wanted to collect all your data for your whole life. And on that day, Facebook was basically founded. It's such a quenky, didn't come. You know, who is Mark Zuckerberg? Who is Mark Zuckerberg? Who is his family? I've heard everywhere from, you know, he's a, not a Rothschild.
Starting point is 00:16:02 One of the other big, big money powers families that run everything, who his dad is, basically a power structure. We know that there was a good chance he stole this idea from those two twins. There's a movie about it. Yeah. So it's like, the Winkle Boss twins, yeah. These guys were basically, I mean, that might even be a story that's a made-up story. Just to sell this story, because those guys made a billion dollars off of Bitcoin, right?
Starting point is 00:16:32 You just never know. I mean, like, everything is theater, dude. They could have been like, you guys are going to say they stole from this. B. they guys are going to say thi. gonna be big, blah blah, blah, you're gonna push it, you're gonna make a billion dollars off this. Okay, where do I sign up? Bam, XG, fucking stole my idea for a t-shirt, boom, I just get paid. It's like, it's all theater, dude. It's all theater. So they both have very deep, deep, deep, deep ties to the CIA and the CIA, the CIA, uh, the CIA, and they, to the to they, to they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, the, the, the, t, tie, tie, t-I, X, X, X, X, X, X, fucking, t, t, X, t, t, t, t, t, t-f, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F.... X, F, F, F, F, F, F, F.. X, F, F, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. X, F. G, F. G, F. G., F. G., F. G., F. G., F. G., F. G., F. G., X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, F. G. G. G on before. It's like, nothing gets big in this country unless the CIA has a hand in it, you know? Like, they have their finger on all the big pop culture stuff at the highest levels. The fucking Area 51, you don't think they're in it on it? Oh, I don't think if they wanted to stop it, oh, here, stop it. Oh, you mean all those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho thi their their their their their they're their they're their their they're they're their their their their their their they're they're they're they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they have they have they have they have they have. A million people. Like, I, like you're running to the one place as a technology to just snap a finger and you're all gone. Raid the Vatican, let's do that. There we go. Let's, I want to see what's in that library man. Yeah. So, uh, I'm with you on that one. Yeah, raid the Vatican. the Vatican. the Vatican. the Vatican. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to the one. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. th. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. the one. dick doodles on these churches. I mean, I'm sorry, and if you're religious, I'm not, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. It's just like, you have a kid fucking problem, and I feel that, you know, at least a dick doodle is the least you could do.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Um, you know, I learned some very interesting stuff by watching your movie. I always knew they collected my data, but I never knew how extensive it was. How extensive is there, is their data collection and how far would they go to keep that going? The extent of how Google can collect your, and by extension Facebook as well, but I'll focus on Google for now. To take, to putting in context, everyone's afraid of the MSA, right? I don't think the MSA has the kind of reach and the kind of precision that Google does, by any stretch of the means. Mostly because anything you touch that is made by Google is a surveillance platform.
Starting point is 00:18:49 They make no product, and I mean no products, that are not designed to surveil and collect and organize. That means if you have an Android phone, if you use Google Maps, if you use Google Maps, if you use the Google Home, if you use Google Maps, if you use Google Home, if you search on the internet, just search it. If you go to a web page that you didn't even touch with Google, but they use Google Analytics. So every single point of contact that they have built is collecting something.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Google Wares, collecting your biometrics. They buy companies you've never even heard of. Then there's the issue of things that sit on Google servers. So for example, you say, well, I'm going to jump to another platform. I'm going to jump over to Apple, where Apple mail sits on Google servers. So they read your Apple mail, because why would Apple maintain giant servers when Google has already built them? You have things like parts of the Pentagon that have sat on Google servers. You have the New York Times that sits on Google servers.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You have pretty much the entire press. And all of the media is being funneled through these servers, and it is all being read, catalog, collected. You could say probably 40 million points of data are collected on each of us. They know what you want. They can predict what you do. It is so insidious and so totalitarian. The scope of it is so massive that we, for everything we do, is essentially collected. You jump over to Yahoo, you say, I'm going to use Yahoo. Well, guess what? When you search with Yahoo, it checks Google's quarantine list. And the quarantine list is the websites
Starting point is 00:20:30 they don't want you to visit. So even when you jump to Bing or these other pumpings, it just doesn't matter. Oh, well, Duck, Duck Do go is more of an aggregator. But here's thing. You can't. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. that. the the that. that. th. th. th. the qua. the qua. the qua. the qua. the qua. the qua. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the quarantine. the qu. the qu. the qu. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. that. that. that. that. tas. tas. task. task. task. task. task. task. task. task. taxe. task. task.ug Go, but those websites that come back use Google Analytics. So they got you. And here's the thing, in the fine print, anything you do on a Google product, they own. That is the deal that we have made when we use these products.
Starting point is 00:20:58 People think they got a free email. It is one of the largest surveillance platforms ever. You cannot turn the listening off. You cannot stop them from coming in your house. You cannot stop them from telling your kids or manipulating your children. You just cannot stop them. No government can stop them. Nobody can stop them.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Because no one understands what they're looking at. They don't even know what's happening. Why? Because it's free. We've been conditioned over their years to accept free internet services and we think it's great and wonderful, but they are collecting all the information. They're building AI, they're doing all these weird projects that no one knows about and they're boiling it, we're not doing it, we have your best interest in mind and don't look behind the curtain. Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's crazy. And it. And it's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thathe thatheatheatheatheat, and we're that, and we're th. And we're th. And we're th. And we're th. And we're thatheatheat th. And we're th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we th. And we thi, thi. And we're thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. theeeat, thi. And theat, theat, thi. And theat, thi. thi. And theat, thi. And we're the curtain. Yeah, it's unbelievable. And it's crazy because in Big Brother, they brought in the cameras. We brought them into our own house. Which is crazy. They fucked with us even harder. You used to think, oh they're never going to put a camera in my
Starting point is 00:21:58 house. No, you're you're gonna bring it into your own house. Oh dude, I have an Apple TV, I mean, a Amazon TV sitting, waiting to get installed. It's been there four months. I've been, I'm just too lazy, you know? I know it's recording everything I'm doing. Everything I'm doing. Totally. It's recording. Totally. In fact, we even say in the film, we go as far to say that what Google has achieved is what every dictator
Starting point is 00:22:25 of the 28th century wanted to achieve. Total control. Stalin and all these guys, that's what they wanted, right? But Google did not have to send in troops. They didn't have to do any of this stuff. We did it to ourselves. It's opt in slavery. That's what we are, this is the agreement. Unbelievable. And the question now is to to thi thi the thi thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, you thi. thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you to to to to to to to thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho tho their their tho their tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. to to to to to to to to to to to toee. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to the the the. the. the. this is the agreement. Unbelievable. And the question now is, what do you do? So, you brought up a really good point about how Google and Facebook sell nothing. They sell nothing. They sell nothing. They're multi-billion dollar companies and they sell nothing. And they sell nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And they make money. and basically what they sell is your info is that it or your eyeballs I mean what what where do they may I know that Google you are the product that that is that is look here's a thing right this is a lot of people say oh Silicon Valley they're bad but we got to really do have to parse it out, because Apple and Microsoft, you know, are one of Microsoft products right now. Apple and Microsoft make things, right? You make the iPhone or Microsoft Windows or whatever. And you say, oh, I don't like the phone, so I'm not going to buy the phone. So Apple has to guess what? They gotta make a better phone. With Google and Facebook, because you're not really paying for the product, the payment
Starting point is 00:23:49 is your interaction. That's what your payment is. So that interaction and that data that they collect on you, well, they gotta do something with it, and they're modeling it, and they're selling it, and they'll say, oh, they're not doing these things, but this is how it's working. We are the product. We're essentially cattle. That's what we are. You know, and the thing about cattle is cattle gets slaughtered, right?
Starting point is 00:24:11 It doesn't, that's what we end up as hamburgers. We're sold up, and it's not just advertising the companies. There's been advertising for centuries, really. Israeli advertising is not a new thing. The difficulty comes when you talk about the intelligence community, the law enforcement and all these other types of insidious groups, or how about groups that, you know, when they're working with China right now on things like AI. You know, that has a whole other, whole other world. They work with all these other bad actors. And look, they're not particularly always careful with our data. You know, it would be like, if you, I said, hey, I want you to give me the keys to your
Starting point is 00:24:49 house, I'm gonna give them to this other guy. Don't worry about it, no big deal. I'm gonna pass them around to all these people. You're never gonna know who they are,the deal we've made. It's insidious. Oh my God, dude. It's so deep. Now, do you think that Trump has shed light on like how ridiculous everything is in terms of, you know, the mainstream media, tech companies, how they're so biased and stuff like that? Like, do you think he's, he's like blown that wide open? Are we at this point right now? that? thi th-up. th th th now? tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's that's thi. thi. that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, how they're they're so biased and stuff like that. Like do you think he's like blown that wide open? Are we at this point right now because of Trump or where we're going to get here anyways? I think that we are probably closer to the point because of the president, but the problem is is that nobody knows exactly what to do. Right? We have issues because, again, Google is very much intertwined with our But the problem is that nobody knows exactly what to do.
Starting point is 00:25:45 We have issues because, again, Google is very much intertwined with our government. And when you have services sitting on servers and you have so much interaction, the problem is, look, whenever you hear, who are the first people to call for regulation on these companies? It's these companies, right? You ever think about it. It's always Google and Facebook, who Facebook comes out after Cambridge Analytica goes, oh, we can't govern ourselves.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So we can't wait to get in their rights and laws, right? They cannot wait to get in and write some laws. And the laws that they write or even participate in even a touch end up actually pushing their agenda further. Because when you see these guys go in front of Congress or Senate, clearly nobody knows what they're talking about and there's no way to verify anything they're saying. I'll get back to you. I'll have my office send you an email. This is Sundar Petrarch's mantra every time he goes up in front of any kind of legislative body.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And so the thing is, is that while we've drawn attention to it, because let's be honest, we all know that there's something creepy going on, we've always known, right? No one's ever given you anything for free that you haven't been, even in inkling suspicious, even in the back your head. So everyone knows, right? And even when they watch the movie th. th. th. th. th. the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the movie the the the thi thi inkling suspicious, even in the back your head. So everyone knows, right? And even when they watch the movie, they know. But they go, well, you know, like, what am I supposed to do? Take my business off on Google search. If I take my restaurant off, Google search, my business will die, right? And so everyone's also with the mercy of these companies. And so while the attention has been brought, what we are seeing now is an inability to
Starting point is 00:27:27 actually deal with these companies. And of course, there's a number of topics, and the President has dealt primarily with censorship, right? That's his thing. He's all about censorship. And privacy is important as well. But there's a whole myriad of issues, for example, the undermining of democracy, the ability for them to shift votes.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So let's just say that your congressman X, and if you know that Google can sit there and move 5,000 votes from your column to your opponent, what are you going to do? Are you going to befriend this company? This is the interaction we're getting into. And so even if you go after them, what are you going to do? How much are you going to find them? They find Facebook $5 billion. Who cares? It's not enough money. The damage has been done.
Starting point is 00:28:16 It's kind of like if you were in a car accident and your wife was killed and they gave you some money and said, oh, here's the settlement. It doesn't change the fact that she's that she's tha been done. The damage has been done to the users of these platforms. The damage has been done to the country. The damage has been done to the world. They say that Google could potentially be determining up to 25% of elections in the world right now. So the damage is already been done, the data is already collected, the modeling has already been done,
Starting point is 00:28:49 and what are we gonna do? Slap fines on them? So it requires a completely different way of thinking, where you have to basically kill the business model. You can't go after Google and Facebook, because all they're gonna do is rapidly reorganize. Remember, they have all the authority of a government, but the, the, the, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the, the modeling, their, their their their their their, their, their their modeling, their, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, their modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, the modeling, their, their, their, they're going to do is rapidly reorganize. Remember, they have all the authority of a government, but none of the accountability of a government, right?
Starting point is 00:29:11 They're efficient, they're fast, our government is slow, it's not knowledgeable. These are the smartest people in the world. Our government is not the smartest people. So you have this, you have this brain drain deficient body trying to grapple with something that it's th, but government... th that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thi. that is that is that is that is that is so that is so that is so thi.. So you have this brain-drain deficient body trying to grapple with something that is, it's nothing, Google and Facebook don't even see, but they don't respect laws, they don't respect countries,
Starting point is 00:29:37 they don't respect sovereignty, they don't respect privacy. So the thing is that, you know, they're going to collect your data. Remember, they're always caught doing tha tha thi tha tha tha tha thiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi the the the the the thing is that, you know, they're going to collect your data. Remember, they're always caught. They always get caught doing things. They never come out and say, hey, you know what, we screwed up. This was a glitch over here. We're going to fix it for you. It's always like they're caught dead to rights. They're caught, you know, messing with, people's data. They're caught, you know, manipulating children. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their ca, tape, to, too, their tooo, their tooo, their their their their their and see what they do with negative news stories, they're caught because they're bad. And the shameful part of it is that the technology itself is fundamentally brilliant.
Starting point is 00:30:16 These are brilliant things. They bring information to people. I don't hate any of the functionality of these things. And I don't think that the vision to build them is the bad part. The problem is, if I said, you are God, would you do bad things? And that's the question. And here's the thing. They are. They're doing them. We know they're caught. There's leaks. We know they want to change the structure in the world order and they have the power to do it. So the president, I think, has made, you know, he's brought these things to light.
Starting point is 00:30:51 But again, you know, one presidency against what is a, essentially the new USSR, it's very, it's a very difficult issue with so many living parts and so many people in Washington are rowing in their direction, not in our direction. Yeah that seems to be what Washington does. Washington is like guys trying to get late. They say whatever they got to say to get down those pants and once they get elected they just completely walk back and they like they never even said it. That's why they hate us, like we hate them. No, they, yeah, they hate us, they despise us.
Starting point is 00:31:31 But, um, so what do you say to the people are like, well, Trump got elected, they didn't want Trump to get elected, how does Trump get elected if they can manipulate everything. Well, you know, and this is always the fun question to answer. Here's the deal. When 2016 election was happening, Dr. Robert Epsign, you know, just for the listeners who have not seen the film, we worked with a professor, Dr. Robert Epstein, who tracked the 2016 election for five or six months without Google knowing. And, you know, he is not a, he's not a Republican, he doesn't like Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He's a, he's a, you know, more of it on the Hillary side Democrat guy. And he found institutional bias and searches that were like 90% in the count. I mean, it's something. Oh, yeah. So blatant,% in the count and her count. I mean it's up so yeah so blame but here's the deal if you are a company like Google or hey look let's be honest if you're anybody in 2016 and someone comes up to you is that this guy is going to be the president you know are you like oh yeah they did not think she was going to lose oh yeah yeah. So they could have shifted, he says, potentially up to 3 million votes at 10% capacity. All right? So they
Starting point is 00:32:54 were probably running on, you know, it's like it's running in neutral but not going anywhere and they could do that kind of damage, right? They have stated, as we've seen recently in the project of Veritas videos and a number of documents that have come out and videos that have leaked about after election day, that they will never let that happen again, right? They will never operate as if it's in the bag. And to me, that is, that's devastating. And here's the thing, right? The big problem that is clouding this whole issue is because it was the 2016 election. It's because everyone is, you know, obviously, you know, pissed that Donald Trump's the president or any of these kinds of things. But the fact of the matter is, what I tell people is there's a democratic primary happening right now. And they will use that that that that that that that that the that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theck theck theck theck theck. theck. theckoomeckoomeckoomecki. thecki. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. ththere's a Democratic primary happening right now and they will
Starting point is 00:33:46 use that technology to get what they want. So if you're an Elizabeth Warren fan, Google will use their cheating capability to work against her. If they don't like you and you're running as a Democratic candidate, I'd say for everybody out there, you know, you have one of these 10,000 guys running, you know, if Google doesn't like your guy, your guy's not going to get a fair shake. And so that is, they don't use the power, you know, just for the left, just the power for themselves.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And if you are not on their side, and it doesn't matter how you register to vote. You are an enemy of the state to them. You will be censored. Your data will be collected. Your guys will not win. And that's just a fact. Yeah, you know, and the selling of data is why Facebook. to be profitable, right? They didn't tell anybody they were doing it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And they, you know, people started going I bought all this Facebook stock nothing's going on so to save the company he started or this what we're told he started selling data and and that's basically how he saved Facebook right and then like when all this quote-unquote Russian collusion was going on and these ridiculous flyers that were putting out like these weird Photoshop pictures they were they came out after the election in areas where Trump was going to win anyways and they said it was you know Russian collusion that's why Trump won it's ridiculous and on top of that doesn't Russia own like part of Facebook?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Do you know anything about that? I don't know about that, but I can say this, right? The thing is, is Russia ran some ads. And we address this, we address the idea of running ads and what does it mean to run ads? You know, when you see an ad, you have the choice to either believe it or do not believe. We call it confirmation bias, right? So if you like Hillary Clinton, you see an ad that she's the devil, you're going to be like, yes, it will reinforce what you already believe. So ads don't really do very much. All the stuff that Russia ran, you know, it doesn't really do much. And what we're really getting to, fundamentally, is what the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,that Russia ran, you know, it doesn't really do much. But what we're really getting to, fundamentally, is what Facebook and largely Google does is completely
Starting point is 00:36:13 invisible, right? And here's thing, it's not even just invisible. It's nearly impossible, it's nearly impossible to prove. This is like the most complicated part, right? Because I was on typing into the Google search and those little suggestions are tumbling down, that's shifting my opinion. But that's a femur, right? You can't save those. You can't go back to see what they suggested. It happens on the fly.
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Starting point is 00:37:14 and nobody cares because they just like their fancy phone. And the worst thing is someone's like, I have nothing to hide. One. to hide? Who doesn't have anything to hide? One, I mean like you've lived no life if you haven't done some shady shit and two, that's not the point. The point isn't that you're doing something. The thing is people don't look at their computers as like their house, right? And which is really weird because you probably have more important things on your computer than you do in the rest of your house. On your phone you have bank accounts, you have everything. Right? So if the cops came to your house and just start going through all your shit, people would
Starting point is 00:37:53 flip out. But because it's like what you said, invisible and nobody sees it, they just don't care. They don't care that they're collecting your data and the government's collecting it too. Not just selling it, the government's collecting it as well. I mean, we know that the CIA made through their companies that they do to put up to, no, alphabet. I think it was Google, then it became alphabet. But basically they, uh, go on, sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:22 They made, uh,. They made Google Maps and then sold it's Google. Imagine that, right? The most useful math application in the world by the intelligence community. Hey, look, I'm not saying these products don't work. They work so well. They're great. They're wonderful, right? They're magic.
Starting point is 00:38:44 It's like magic. I want to go get some shoes. Google comes in and it's like, hey, here's exactly the shoe you want. Well, how do they know to do that? How do they know where I am? How do they know any milk right now? Right? I mean, look at how they're tuning that. The Android operating system, right? That's running around these folks, it's everywhere. It's on things you're not even aware of. And as we move towards, say, 5G and the Internet of Things, right? And what is the Internet of Things? That's your refrigerators on running Android.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Your refrigerators connected to the internet. Everything will be connected. All of these things in your life. So right now we're talking about a computer and we're talking about a phone, but eventually it'll be your refrigerator, it will be your lights, it will be, I mean, it's already the television, it's gonna be such, it will be a garage door opener.
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Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. What are those cases where like Alexis on and someone murders someone or some shit like that? Yeah, it's, it's, oh, it's amazing. What are those cases where like, um, Alexis on and someone murders someone or some shit like that? Well, I mean, yeah, because, yeah, pretty much, like, what are you supposed to say, hey, no, you can't use that? Then they're like, the cops want to get that recording. Or let's not do something as bad as a murder, because murders are awful, right? But how about when Alexa sends another family the recording of Alexa just recording it?
Starting point is 00:40:29 I mean, that's happened. Oh yeah, and they're listening. They're listening. I mean, look, it, it, it, it, the employees of these companies, they're not being held accountable, right? There's no accountability. You know, again, is everybody used to be afraid of the government, right? To me, the government, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the thi, thi, the recording, thi, th. Alexa, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, the recording, th, th, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, the the the the the they, the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the the they, the the the th.a, the recording, the recording, the recording, the know, again, everybody used to be afraid of the government, right? To me, the government is just, it's like ineffective, it's inefficient, and frankly, it's inefficient by design, right? The founding fathers designed the legislative process to be slow and laborious so you couldn't do crazy stuff. These companies have none of those restrictions. Right, by the time they even get a hearing up, Google has changed the algorithms and shifted everything around, right? It'd be like the slowest drum bust in history, you know,
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Starting point is 00:41:59 can't share memes because somebody owns, it's all about IP, right? Or free speech, their IP. But, but what they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're there, right? Or free speech, their IP, but what they're doing is the complete opposite, and Google will just pull out and rearrange things. You won't be able to have YouTube over there because everything on YouTube is basically has been acquired somewhere else. So we're going to see these two models play out and we're going to kind of to get an idea of like which one works better. I I I I I I I I thiiiiii, I I thi th, I th, I thi th thi th th th th th th thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they're thi they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they see these two models play out, and we're going to kind of get an idea of like which one works better.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I don't think either of them will work, and I actually think in some instances the EU model is so extreme. I'm actually more on Google's side when it comes to some of the things they're doing. But either way, until we completely rethink, you know, stop applying 20th century legislation to 21st century companies, they're going to get away with this stuff forever. Yeah, and just nobody seems to care. I mean, like, it's, it's, I like, dude, when Twitter's talking about getting rid of the president's Twitter account, it's like, what are you talking about, man?
Starting point is 00:43:02 What are you talking? And like, you know, let me ask some, how is what Google do, how is what Google is doing any different than what mainstream media has been doing forever, whether it's MSNBC, Fox News, CNN, you know, I mean, Fox News looks somewhat better now because they've, they've been on the side of like, you know, uh, you know you know there's Clintons are no good and stuff but if you look at like during 9-11 Fox News was like pushing that like a jihadist bullshit and nobody's ever gone to jail for that horrible crime so how is it any different than what the mainstream media has been doing? Here's the difference right as long as I can see it I can the it I can thi thi. I th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thin thin thin the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. But I th. But I th. But I th. But I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin. I the the the the they they they can't they can't they can't they can they can they can they can they can't they can't the the the the they the the the the the the the the the the mainstream media's been doing. Here's the difference, right? As long as I can see it, I can make the choice, right?
Starting point is 00:43:51 That's the difference. The difference comes down, remember, Facebook and Google are fundamentally different like this. Facebook has to, they don't have to use Facebook, so they have to battle for your attention. Google, on the other hand, they have to, you don't have to use Facebook, so they have to battle for your attention. Google on the other hand, they have no, there's no competitor, so you use Google, they don't say a word, they don't say a peep,
Starting point is 00:44:12 but they rather you just don't even know they're there, right? They don't want you to think you're having a good time in your phone. The difference is, is I never got the choice to be manipulated because that is how it's designed. If I watch Fox or I watch MSNBC or I read Time Magazine or I read New York Times, again, I get the choice to say, I like this or I don't. It's slanted or it's not, right? And look, you may tie it and believe Fox, or you may believe MSNBC, but you got the choice. At least you got that. With this, you don't get the choice.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Nobody gets the choice. You don't even know what's happening. In fact, Dr. Robert Eckstein, who's the foremost expert on this manipulation. He discovered a lot of the stuff. He says that even he sometimes doesn't see the bias when he knows what to look for. So that is how good they are. You don't get the choice.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You'll never, it's like this, you'll never know what they did and show you. You just never know. You'll never get the choice. And at the end of the day, these companies are about taking away your free will. Your choice, you don't get it, it's gone, you get what we give you, you think this is the entire, this is the parameters the world we built. That's what it is, you'll never know. You'll just never know. It's kind of like when you hear people, oh, they got poisoned, and they never even knew it. That's a tragic. T. T. It's a. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. It's a their. their. their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. It's a their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, you're their, you're their, you're their, you're, you're, you. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. their, thi. thi. teeeateateatea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. today. tea. their their their their their got poisoned and they died. And they never even knew it. That's, it's a tragic story.
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's so sad. No, I mean like, it's not what you even have a chance, you know? Yeah, I mean like, dude, Spotify nails me on my new song. So they're like, hey, you might like this song. You might like this song. I'm like, damn you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. It's, th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It. It. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not. It's not like, like, like, like, like, was with AI being like fake bots, and they basically go in the comment section, and they try to start problems or they start comment wars or they try to manipulate that too. We've seen that with AI, where like fake accounts are being made to act like, you know what it is man. It's like, you know what you're talking about to is astroturfing. They're doing a lot of astroturfing, which is basically it's meant to seem
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Starting point is 00:47:31 to these smaller apps that we aren't paying attention to, like Spotify. Right? What's the most intrusive apps you can have on your phone right now? Guess what? The weather apps? Why? You check the weather all the time. When you check the weather, tel people where you are, tel people what's going up. Those, this business model has trickled down into a bunch of other smaller app makers that are not being, that we don't even know. Almost every app in your phone is going to be mimicking the Google model, but with none of the scrutiny that Google's getting dragged through the mud the mud the mud the mud the mud the mud the mud with none of the scrutiny that Google's getting. Google's getting dragged through the mud right now, so guess what?
Starting point is 00:48:08 They may, and I'm not gonna say they will, but they may self-correct, or they may pull back, which is what's good, but these other companies, there's no reason, because no one's paying attention, and nobody knows. And this is, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, and and nobody knows. And this is, that's why I keep going back to it. The only way to crack this problem is to break that business model. The business model of taking your information and selling you off like products.
Starting point is 00:48:37 If you do that, then we take back control of what we see and don't see our choice that. Are you saying break up Google? Hmm? Should we break up Google? Like they did with, uh, what was the AT&T or something back in the day? Where it got so big they, it's a monopoly, right? So, I mean, should we, should we break up Google? You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not one of the guys who wants to break up Google, right? I think that Google has intertwined itself so deeply into all of the things throughout society that breaking them up would actually cost massive, massive damage to things like telecommunications, education, the energy grid. I mean, I think that, you know, sure you could probably break YouTube off, but again, it's one of those things where, you know, they are prepared for these things.
Starting point is 00:49:32 And again, I think that, you know, you have parts of the government sitting on Google servers and you have, I mean, here's the thing, the most powerful weapon of mass destruction they have is in fact Google search. And I mean, you can take all the other platforms and you can say, oh, Android, know this, and all that, but the fundamental tool that is the most powerful in the arsenal is search and search cannot be broken up. So even if you break off all the other things, right, you have to use search. You don't have to use search. You don't have to use maps. You don't have to use Android.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You don't have to use Google Docs. You don't have to use those things. But you have to use search and you have to be searchable. And that's it. So if you were to break all the little tributaries off, as long as they have search, that is all this data. Hey look, one day they may give the data back, right? You say, oh, well, they've never made anything ever. But once they're done modeling all of our data, that is something they will have made and they may just give it all back because they don't need it anymore.
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Starting point is 00:51:16 If there's gonna be a war, I mean, it's looking more and more like that's, I mean, it just seems like we're just both trying to be to be to be both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both to be both both both to be both to be both both we're just both trying to be the dominant world power and China seems to be like gaining on us if they if not they've already passed us no um Google working with I mean like that's directly working with the enemy right I mean according to them they went over there because they were just gonna read what is it they were gonna find a way to make a Google anyway. So instead of not giving them not making no money, that's why they went over there, right,
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Starting point is 00:53:16 that activity knowing full well because they have stated that they, that's why they left in the pro-fledu. Full well that they will be doing this. And I want everyone to to to to that that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thiiauiting that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that isthe pro-fluid, full well, that they will be doing this. And I want everyone to think about that. That is, that is beyond what these companies are, that is something we've called sacred in this country of, you know, the government works for the people. You're not supposed to facilitate the government to hurt people and kill people and round them up. And here we have a company that is like, you know what? Let's do it. Let's get in there.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Let's help the government. It's, it's terrifying. It's disgusting. Wasn't there going to be a revolt at Google, to go? You know, wasn't there going to be a revolt over Google, working with our military on with some kind of drones? Yes, and so Google of course is, oh, we don't want to facilitate the Pentagon and the kinds of horrible things they do, you know, and hey, so let's go to China. And look, you can say whatever you want to say about the U.S. government, but like when you stack them next to each other, you know, it doesn't even come close to kind of human rights violations
Starting point is 00:54:25 that come out of China. And so again, Google is making decisions. They're making choices, because hey, we don't get a choice, but they are making choices, that I think are probably, I mean, again, these are the borderline war crimes if they are going to participate in collecting people and these kinds of things and giving this information to a government that intends to harm its own citizens. Yeah I mean but we've seen these corporate people do this before I mean how many banks worked with Hitler way back in
Starting point is 00:54:57 the day it's kind of sick they're all psychopaths man and it's just like they have so much money and they'll never be able to spend it or wield all the, I mean it's like what are you doing dude? What do you do man? I mean at what point you go, hey man, are we part of the problem? Are we causing chaos in the world? Where does Pornhub fit in all this? Well, I'm sure they, you know, look, everybody's collecting data. Again, look, this is the business model, right? So you visit a website, you know, there's different utilities that will tell you who's watching you, I think ghost or eaves more, and there's a couple others. So if you ever like get one of these little utilities and throw it up in your browser and it tells you all the ad trackers and everybody tracking you you'll be terrified it will be a list that it takes you a minute or two to scroll through at high speed right so
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Starting point is 00:56:17 in between the public Wi-Fi routers in your device, and it will just basically suck up all your action. Because here's the thing, right? What happens? Oh my God, really? Really? You pull out your cell phone, and what do you do? You start searching the internet. You're like, hey, I'm going to read this article. I'm going to say, hey, I want to learn more about their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. ads on the sides of those pages. You know what they're doing? They're paying off towers and they're collecting data and they're doing all the stuff and you don't even know.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You don't know who's around, you don't know who's watching, you know, and so whether it's pornhub or whether it's Star Wars Theory.com, you know, because look, and it's how these websites. That's how they make money. That is the business business they're they're they're they're they're they're the business. the business they're the business. the business the business. the business they're the business. the business. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. the. the. thea. tha. tea. tea. tea. tea.oea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. how these websites, that's how they make money. That is the business. You know, they are selling ads. But again, when I look at the ad, I see it. I know it's there. What Google's doing, I don't know. There's no choice. I mean, look, that's all nasty before. Give me the choice to say yes or no. But don't not give me the choice. You know, don't make it so that I never had the choice in the first place. I can't believe nobody's made something to block that. I can't believe it. There are tools.
Starting point is 00:57:38 There are some tools that will block things. Look, you can turn the location services off on your iPhone, but then the iPhone is just the brick, right? If it doesn't, if it can't use the navigation, if it can't track where you are, all of those whiz-bang products and apps don't work. Uber doesn't work, you know, I don't know, Matt Mike, Matt, my, what was it, run, doesn't work. If you turn off all the, all of the services, the services, the services, the services, the services, the services, the services, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. Right, that, the, the, the, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, isn't, is. And, isn't, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, if it's, if, if, isn't, if you turn, you can, look, if you want to make your phone totally secure, you can turn off all the, all of the services. You can make your smartphone dumb?
Starting point is 00:58:09 Why did you pay a grand for a phone, you know? Right, right, right. Man. So, you can, look, you can't turn off all the stuff, but it's just, then, then, it's, then, then, then, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, then, it's, it's, then, it's, it's, then, then, then, it's, then, it's, then, then, then, then, then, then, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, who have written articles about trying to get away from the tech companies. And look, I mean, you can't even communicate with people. Eventually we'll be all IP telephones and things like that all be digital. You can't find your mom. You don't know what's going on. You know, if something happens, how are you going to know?
Starting point is 00:58:39 You know, we had a big blackout here in New York City that they actually didn't even know I'm downtown, right? And then the phone says, hey, like, there's a big blackout, you know, if you don't have location services, if you're not pulling push email, you just, you just don't know. And here's the crazy thing, you might turn all that stuff off, and you're still collecting your data. So now you're not even getting any benefit out of it. So, so, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you thi. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, you're thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that, that, the the they. the they. the there, there, that, the they, there's that, the th it. So people look at me to go, what are we going to do? You know? God dang, dude. God dang, man. Like, what do you do, man? There's no solution. It's a sad episode. So what do we do? Yeah, I mean, look, it's, what do we do? I mean, people have to take control of their own destiny in this scenario, right? Right? And, and, the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, to that, that, to to to to to to to to their their their that's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their that's the. toda. today. today. today. today, today, today, today, today, today, to be today, that we do? I mean, people have to take control of their own destiny in this scenario, right? And look, I can't tell someone to not use Google, right? But you can reduce in your contact with these companies as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:59:40 There are some alternative platforms for things like email, like proton mail. You can use Signal, which is a, you know, like WhatsApp guys, all the WhatsApp people, like they're totally screwed, right? That's owned by Facebook. You know, I look, I love Instagram. Owned by Facebook. And they're going to merge all these apps together and they're going to put ads in the other, they're going to collect all your data their data thata tha thatatatat all that all that all that all that all that all that all that all that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that. that. that. that, that, their that, their their that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. their their that. their their that's that, that, that, th're going to collect all your data, you know. But there are alternatives. There's other browsers, like I think Brave and some others, that will let you reduce the contact. I do think Apple is better than anything Android. Don't use any Android phone. Apple does take a decidedly different position on privacy. And so their operating system is more secure.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But hey, even Microsoft is starting to move into surveillance models with some of their operating system tools. And so it's a matter of time. Look, eventually everybody's going to own an iPhone, right? They're all going to own them. In the beginning, they were too expensive and they're the 1% are phones and eventually, you know, they've come down and price everyone going to on one. And so these companies are going to have to find something else to sell, right? Are they giving the government our info? Do you believe that the government is getting our info as well? I think that there's a good chance that certain parts of the government are.
Starting point is 01:01:07 But I also think there's a good chance that, again, the inefficiencies of the government, you know, make it so that what they're getting is probably minute part, because here's the other thing, right? The government hasn't stuck anything in here. So they're going to have to piggyback off these companies to get that information. And honestly, that information is so valuable. You know, the company might say, hey, look, we know where this terrorist guy is. But that's not my concern. My concern is like, hey, we know where your kids are and we're going to make you the tearist this right. We know what the terrorist, the terrorist, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thi, thi, their, their, their, their is, their is, their, thi, their is, their is, their is, their is, thi, their is, their is, their is, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their is, their, their, their, honestly, their, honestly, their, honestly, their, their, honestly, their, honestly, their, their, honestly, thi. And, honestly, thi. And, honestly, th to make the kids think this way. This is right. It's Captain Crunch. We've collected his data and we know he likes sugar cereal.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah. Exactly. And think about it. That's more insidious. Because like, you know, it's like, hey, we think the world should be this way. And that's really the fundamental problem, I think, with Google and being utopian. At least, it, it, it, the the th, the th, th, thi thi thi th, thi thi. thiase, th, thiase, he thiase, he th, he's, he's, he's, he's, we's, we've, we've, we're, we've, we've, we've, he's, we's, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've tha, we've thatea, we've that. Wea, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've thi. Wea. Wea, we thi. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. We have. We have, we th. We have, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we th. the fundamental problem, I think, with Google and being utopian. You know, at least of Zuckerberg, you know, he's a, wants to build a giant surveillance machine and he wants to make a ton of money. I get that. With Google, it actually does break down into right, wrong, good and bad.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Because to make a utopian society, you have to eliminate bad things. And they are the ones who will determine what is bad. And thia, thia, thia, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he, he, he, thi, he, he, he, he, thi, thi, thi, thi. He, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, thi. And, things. And they are the ones who will determine what is bad. And if you are on the side of bad, well, you're eliminated. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, that's, look, Apple doesn't, I always say it's like this. How many Democrats work at Honda? Who cares? It doesn't matter, the sell you a car. It doesn't matter of 100% of Apple, it's Democrats. They'll still sell a Republican, an iPhone. Right? They'll still do that.
Starting point is 01:02:51 They sell phones. It's what they do. But when you're talking about selling information and steering people's opinions, you know, and in order to achieve Utopia, you know, if you fall on the wrong side. And here's a thing, I'm very particular, this is not a part a part a part a part a part thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their, thi. thi. their. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. their, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. to. to. to. to. to. te. te. te the wrong side. And here's the thing, I'm very particular, this is not a partisan issue. This affects everybody. It doesn't matter how you vote. It doesn't matter how you register. It doesn't matter where you came from. If you are not on their side of whatever their motivations are.
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Starting point is 01:04:41 Right? Every time you put a podcast out, you put an image up, right? We don't have, we don't have control of that infrastructure. You know, I'm actually surprised he got away with it for so long, to be honest with you. That's what's actually surprising to me, because they can't shut you down. You know, and sometimes, like, you take someone like Jordan Peterson who's in our film. You know, here's a crazy thing. If they shut down one account, like right, let's say that they shut down your YouTube, it takes out your whole Google account. That's your email, your calendars, everything goes dark because it's all unified under one
Starting point is 01:05:16 log in. So they kill one thing, you're done, you're gone, you vanish. And whereas Jordan Peterson can call someone up or Julian Assange can get the New York Times to show up. What about the rest of us? We don't have that kind of authority to get our lives turned back on. What have you run a business? We're going to rest around your calendars in there and they shut you down for whatever
Starting point is 01:05:38 reason, it could be any reason whatsoever. You're dead. We are our digital selves now. You live beyond your physical body on Facebook, which is super freaky. You know, and so the thing is, is that's what people know. That's why it was curating their life, you know, and faking, going to Coachella and things like that, you know, because that's what matters now. We don't matter, you know, what matters is that like like like, like, like, like, like, like, look like, look like, look like, look, look like, look like, look like, look like, look like, look, look, look like, look that like, look that like, look that like, look that like, look that like, look that like, look that like, look that, look that, look that, look that, look that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you know, I'm a fat guy doesn't matter. You know, what matters is that like, look at me at burning men, you know, that's what matters. So, so,
Starting point is 01:06:11 so I think though. I can't, I'm actually surprised Julius Sange, when as far as he did, to be honest with you. Yeah, me too. I think the, I think the ultimate power lies with people, the masses. And that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that the ultimate power lies with people, the masses. And that's why we have to have false flags to get us in the war. They can't do anything without our approval. And I think people really need to start understanding that we don't have to take this bullshit. If we just all stop going on Facebook or we all stop using Google, their power's gone and they're gonna have to play ball. They're gonna have to. But us fighting with each other all the time, that's never gonna happen man. I think we have to stop with the bickering and we have to focus on what is going on. That is that we
Starting point is 01:07:00 got some psychopaths who are in charge and they don't have our best interests and we have to stop fighting over over the the the their their their the most their have their have the most to have to have to have the most to to the most to to to to the most to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to play to play to have to play to play to play to play to have to have to have to have to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play to play the the the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most thiciaughec.a.a.a. ifc. ifc. thiaugh. thia. thia.a. thiaugh. toea. toea. toeaq. toeck. are in charge, and they don't have our best interests. And we have to stop fighting over little things and just have the most ridiculous shit set us off on whether a Disney character is white or black or or Nike's going to put out a shoe. Who gives a shit, man? That's just saya bullshit, man to get you all the fight. And you just, you find out who the dumb people are by the ones who are reacting that shit Matt Taylor you are a gee dude I appreciate you coming on. Oh, thank you anytime my pleasure all the time. It's always a bummer everyone at the end is like, what are we going to do now? No, no, no, no, no dude. I mean, you just you just crystallized what I think a lot of people knew what was going on.. And th. And the th. And the the the th. And the the th. the th. the the th. the th. the th. th. th. the the th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. th. the ones. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the one. the one. the one. the that's my job though. I mean, you just, you just crystallize what I think a lot of people knew was going to,
Starting point is 01:07:46 what was going on. And I think we really need to start, you know, taking the power back, man. And I think we got to get rid of all these corrupt fucks who are career, career politicians in Washington that are so obviously selling us out on both sides of the aisle. I'm not getting in this one side's worse than the other because they're both dog shit. And we have to start taking our power back and not just thinking we've got to just keep taking in the ass like we have for the last 50 years man. Fifty years this has been a war on us, our rights and everything
Starting point is 01:08:25 like that by some very powerful lizards. Matt real quick can you tell them while where they can find all your stuff? Absolutely you can go to Amazon if you have Amazon Prime you can do go watch the movie and everyone says oh my god Amazon that's a different movie for a different time yeah I mean what you gonna do you see the film there I can go to the tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho the tho tho tho the the the tho tho the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho the tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I mean, what are you going to do, dude? What are you going to do? You can go to W.W.W.Creepieline.com. We update things. We put things up there. If you go to on YouTube, ironically,
Starting point is 01:08:55 you'll find an additional 30 or 40 minutes of other content that's not included in the movie that talks more about how your children are being manipulated, how the, you know, how the FCC was shut down by the Obama administration in 2012 and a whole bunch of other information. That's pretty interesting. You can share it, you can watch it. More strikeser, more of everybody is there. Well, you're a G, I appreciate if you ever in LA, we'd love to. I hope to.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I'd to have Ian's studio and we could do it again. I hope we didn't scare you. I love to. You are the man. Go check out its movie. I watched as much as I could. I was running crazy, but man, I'm going to finish it off tonight. It's a wonderful movie. It's very well produced.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And it just really bangs it out. look at what what's really going on. Fuck Google. I appreciate you. Matt, we'll do it again soon. And guys, hope to see you in Santa Rosa. We'll talk to you guys soon. Take care of everybody. Thank you. Santa Cruz. Thank you so much, guys.

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