Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #229 Truth, 9/11 and Epstein with Ben Swann

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome the Truth In Media Podcast's Ben Swann to discuss the latest in the world of investigative reporting, 9/11 and Jeffery Epstein's case! Please check out Ben Swann website: https://truthinmedia.com Ben's youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/benswann Please check out.... My album is available for sale on iTunes. So go buy Sam Tripoli Live At the Viper Room. Watch my two specials for free at Samtripoli.com Watch my appearance on the CW's "Mysteries Decoded" with Jennifer Marshall. Jenn and I investigate the murky world of the Montauk Project. www.cwseed.com/shows/mysteries-d…9660-efca3aa0cdf6 Please check out.... My youtube.com Youtube.com/SamTripoli Patreon: Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Tshirts: TinFoilHattshirts.com Cameo.com www.cameo.com/samtripoli Thank you to our sponsors: Absolute Xtracts: Please go to ABX.org and use the promo code "Chaos" for 20% off of all you CBD, Flower and Vap purchases! Blue Chew; Right now, we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code HAT -- Just pay $5 shipping. Again, that’s B - L - U - E - CHEW dot com, promo code HAT to try it FREE. Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code TINFOILHAT at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code TINFOILHAT AbsoluteXracts: Check out our sponsors at ABX.org! They are the Nike of weed and have everything you might need to get lit as f@ck! BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. We have big shows coming please check them dates out: Sept 13th- San Fran Cobbs Comedy Sept 20th- Austin Texas Stateside at the Paramount Oct 4th- NYC the Gramercy Oct 19th- Salt Lake City Wise Guys Nov 15th- Vegas Backstage Bar and Billiards Nov 22nd-25th- La Jolla Comedy Store Dec 20th- Portland The Mississippi

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There's an old saying in podcast saying if you want to make God laugh tell tell everybody your scheduled guest and they will all cancel on you. But all but one. But luckily when I got cancellation I knew I had a really really great chance to get I think one of the best investigators in the business one of the best reporters in the business what this guy is doing he doesn't have to he could easily be in one of those really shitty cable news shows selling you junk but he decided nope I'm gonna be a brave man I'm gonna go on my own and do it on his

own okay he's got brand new podcast coming out truth of media and we're very excited to talk to him I'm proud to say I'm not afraid to say Tim Fall Hat regular okay my good friend yours okay one of the hardest hitting reporters in the game and he's so good looking he makes us all a little gay. Please welcome my good friend Ben Swan everybody. How are you Ben? Thanks for having me on. What an intro man? What an intro? Well you're the best dude I'm so thankful that you are you came in we had a great guest and I feel like we got a even

better guest so I'm super excited for you Ben before we get into everything that we want to talk about tell us about your new. the the new. the new. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to be. to be. to be. to be. too. too. too. to be. to be. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. t. t. th. th. to be. th. B. B. th. toe. toe. t t toe. t t t t t t t t t te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te want to talk about, tell us about your new podcast, man. Yeah, so we just launched it a week ago and we've got this thing up and running now. It's essentially, I mean, it's a very different format than what a lot of people do with podcast. It's much more into taking one big news story that's going on and really try to break down, you know some of the issues around it, facts, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, the issues, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thr-a. throoooan, thri. thri. throan, thri. throan, throan, thr-a. thr-a. thi. th issues around it, facts that surround it. There's a lot of speculation out there. And so what we really want to do is be focused on being very fact-oriented, truth-oriented, just like you guys are, truth-oriented. Thank you. And cover stories that other people aren't covering from a different kind of an angle.

So that's what we've been working on. We have great guests who are a part of it. And again, we're hitting subject matter that I think a lot of folks are just unwilling to touch. That's kind of the idea behind it. It's available everywhere. It's iTunes, Stitchers, all the amazing places. You got it. Absolutely. You can get it all those places. Of course, we're up on social media, all the social engineering sites. That's what we should be calling to their social engineering sites. where they create fake ground roots movements. So Ben, I want to talk to you about some before we get into everything is a lot of people you keep hearing journalism's dead and I say no, not true at all. Journalism has gone peer to peer.

The real investigating is being done on YouTube, on Steam it, on Tumblr, on the podcast. You have people who are just not really consumed with the Almighty Dollar, but really consumed with the truth, like he's and yourself. Where do you think journalism is right now? Is it dead or is it just evolving? Oh I think you're absolutely right. It's not that it's dead, but it has completely taken on a new form. And actually, it's not really a new form, or for being honest, it's an old form. I mean, this is what journalism used to be. And I'm talking not talking about back in the 50s.

I'm talking about a hundred years ago. Two hundred years ago. This is what journalism was, it. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is would be some, you know, local person who could create a newspaper or somebody who's writing a pamphlet and they're sharing information. We are in a much more technological age where information can be shared in a way that it never has in human history. But you're absolutely right. Journalism is not dead. What is dead is the idea that there is an almighty on high force or voice that is going to dictate. there is an almighty on high force or voice that is going to dictate to you what is true and what is not.

That is what is dead. And thank God that is dead. I'm so glad that that form of media is going away because it is proven to be unhealthy, it's proven to be a sham, it's proven to be detrimental and even deadly to millions of people around the world. It has proven to be a deadly recipe to allow to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the. the. the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theateateateateate, theateateateate. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean around the world, it has proven to be a deadly recipe to allow one or two people to assume the position of anchor or journalist. And I will tell you what is true and I will tell you what is not true, and then you must fall in line with that in your belief system.

And so I think we should all be glad that ding dong that which is dead. that's that's over over over over over over that's over over over over over over over over. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toeee. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. And now we're moving into a new phase of journalism where there's a lot more freedom. The problem is, is those social media sites like Facebook and YouTube and Steeman, those sites, the places where people can go to share information, there is a battle right now for control of those sites and they're a battle for the control of how information is shared. That is what so many people in the federal, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, is the federal, the federal, is the federal, is the federal, is the the the the the th, is the th, is th, is tho, is tho, is tho, is tho, is the the the tho, is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is the, is the, is that, that, that, that, that, is, is, is, is, is, is that, is, is that, is that, is a that, is what so many people, like the Atlantic Council, so many people in, you know, the federal government, the CIA, they are working to control those avenues because if you can control that, you can ultimately control what the people believe. And so that's where the next battle is. I couldn't agree more. It's dangerous what they're doing. and they just keep repeating it as we

it's so interesting someone put on a Michael Moore clip on which he's interviewing the this group of people these delegates these voters from West Virginia and they were talking about how Hillary basically jacked all the delegates from West Virginia while winning none of them. And it was so real today that I thought it was a brand new movie Michael Moore was putting out. Like he's trying to make amends to us for trying to lie to us about all the Russian Gate stuff. And my friends like, no, that's from his movie that went out a couple years ago. But what we're seeing is over and over again again, the same tricks being played.

Just right now, Ben, we just saw how crazy is it that these Taliban who wanted us out of Afghanistan just decided, you know what? Yeah, we want to go, but we're gonna fucking shoot you guys and blow up bombs and maybe kill you guys even though we want you to leave, even though that makes no logical sense that they would do that when they're in negotiations to let's go. But what does Pompeo go? You know what? We're breaking off these talks because these Taliban won't play nice even though

we want to leave? it's like no You don't want to leave and we know you don't and it's ridiculous But that happens that litural scenario that you just described Happens every time the US says we're going to leave someplace. It happens every time this that the exact same thing happened when we were going to leave Syria a couple of years ago remember this and then all of a sudden Assad decided oh you're????????? to? to? to? the to? to? the to? the to? to? the to? I? the to? the to? the the they. to go? they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. thi. they. they. the the the the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the th. th. the the th. the the the the th. th. I. I. I. I. I. the the. th. the the. the the. the the. the the. th. th. thi. the the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeea. theea. thea. thea. thea. thiiiiia. thi. thi. thi. ago. Remember this? And then all of a sudden Assad decided, oh, you're leaving next week? Well, before you go, I'm going to gas some children. Let me just use some chemical weapons and kill a bunch of kids because you're leaving anyway, so it doesn't matter anymore. I can do whatever I want. And the problem is, is that you have this idiotic media in this country that is part of that system, right, that plays thiiiiiiiiiiiii, th.. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to th. to to to to th. to to th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to th. th. to to the. toe. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. with it, that reports it with a straight face as if it's true, as if this is really what is taking place. There's no critical thinking, there's no questioning, there's not a single voice on any mainstream network

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never really happened. And we don't know if someone died. But God forbid, man, that these people let this happen and somebody lost their son or lost their daughter so that we could stay in Afghanistan. Like we found out while, the, while, with the Iran and shooting down one of our drones, that just happened to be by a jet or a fighter plane with U.S. personnel on it. Like, do you guys, does anyone realize what that represents? That represents a sacrifice.

They were going to sacrifice those people on that plane to ignite a war? Whose kids are those? Are they any bushes? Are they any trumps? Are they any Pompeos? Are they any Bolton's? Are they anybody of any consulton's? Are they any bushes? Are they any Cheney's? Are they any Trumps? Are they any Pompeyos? Are they any Bolton's? Are they anybody of any consequences? No. They're sacrificing your kids. They're sacrificing our kids for banker wars so we could start a fight with that? Why doesn't anyone ever see this? Ever? What's it going to take, Ben, to get people to stop co-signing on the bullshit? That's a question.

Welcome to this interview where I just yell at you for an hour. If we're going to get people to stop believing this stuff, and as I said, I think people are believing it less and less, but we have to be able to get... Okay, so let me back up a little bit. So I think people were already breaking free of a lot of this. If you go back into 2014, 2015, 2016, there was a lot more going on in that social space where people were having a lot of these conversations. I mean, I truly believe we did not go to war with Syria because of social media. the the the thia. thia. thia. thia thia thia thia thia thia thi media. thi media. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to me to me the. the. these conversations. I mean, I truly believe we did not go to war with Syria because of social media. It actually prevented a US-Syrian war.

It really did. Because if you look at all the buildup to the war, everything that we did in Libya, everything we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, we were doing it all again. It was the exact same playbook. The only difference was if you were on social social the time, you saw this incredible surge of people talking about it in a very critical way. And what I think was happening was that there was this kind of mass group of people who were challenging these ideas because it's not going to be challenged on CNN or Fox News

or MSNBC. It's not going to be challenged there. But it was being challenged in these other places. And what I think happened was tha tha tha tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi. theean, was thi. thean, was thean, was thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And, was thi, was thi. And what I think happened was that people who were involved in like the Atlantic Council and people in the CIA and these higher-ups of the Pentagon, they were looking at this and what they realized was that the public had gained a way to be able to challenge these ideas and to build mass support that was, you know, against some of these ideas. Right. And so what's happened since 2016 to 2019, we're going these these ideas. Right. And so what's happened since 2016, from 2016 to 2019, we're going through a crazy period of time

in which there are thousands of people and pages and, you know, entities and individuals being banned from these social sites. The influential ones are being banned. Conservatives think, oh, it's because they are on the right. It has nothing to do with right or left. It has to do with to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 to 16 16 16 to 16 to 16 to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to bea. to bea. 2016 toxxxxxxxxin, toxin, toe. toxxin-16 toxin-16 toxin-s toxin-s toxin-s influential ones are being banned. Conservatives think, oh, it's because they are on the right. It has nothing to do with right or left. It has to do with anyone who is an anti-establishment figure who challenges that authority, who challenges that narrative, is being removed.

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They're engineering. They're about focusing you and controlling you and making you believe something that's absolutely not true. And I didn't want to indicate that I thought that it was a fake attack in Afghanistan. If it came off that way, I actually said that. I said that. I said that also. And I agree with you. You're killing sons and daughters, husbands and wives, mothers and fathers. You are putting our people in harm's way to continue a war that never should have been started

in the first place. Well, for sure, Ben, for the record, I'm the one who said that, brought up the, and I'll take full credit for it, and you shouldn't get any flack on that, because I question it all. We don't know what really happened. You know, the first Gulf War, they were like, where are the tracks? Where are the troops? Where of all this stuff that they said, we don't know. Dude, it said, about psychopaths and dollar bills. I asked you, Ben, do you thiii. that the internet got away from the elites. As we know, the internet was either developed from CERN or some military thing, a great way to control the information or get more information to them.

We got the blue check marks that I don't trust anybody with a blue check mark. If you have one, Ben, you'll be the first one I trust. But the rest of them, I don't trust any of them, okay? Even personal friends I know are scumbags. I don't trust any of them, okay? But everyone thinks that the internet is so controlled and I think it might have gotten away with them from them because the information that's out is not information they want out. Okay? Rapid pedophilia. Zionism, the influence of Zionism. You know, these foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign foreign these foreign foreign the foreign. These the influence of Zionism, you know, these foreign actors, the lying that went on, the FISAGATE scandal that I'm still waiting for it to hit.

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that it gets away with them? Or we be manipulated and we don't even know it from the internet with all this information coming out? Your thoughts? So I think you're right. I think that it did, I think it got away from them for that period that I was kind of talking about. I think for really if you, 2007, 2008, until about 2016, I think it did get away. I don't think that the elites thought that they were going to have, there was going to be. Theat the elite. to be, I to be, I to be, I to be, I, I, I the elite, I, I, I th. th. th. th. th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was going, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I th. thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thin, I thin, I th. I th. I th. I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th. th. th. thin. th. th. th. thin, Ithey thought there was going to be. I think what they really thought it was going to be was a great way to control information and pass information. But you have to remember that nobody can predict something

they've never really seen before, right? And so what I mean by that is if you were an elite in the 1970s, after the 60s, after you saw these protest movements were getting away, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thrown, thrown, thrown, thi, and thrown, thrown, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be to be to be to be to to to thi, but, but, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi. this, after you saw these protest movements were getting away from you and these anti-war protesters are getting away. There was a lot that got away from the elites in the 60s and then you get into the 70s and 80s and the control was, well, you know, how do we control a lot of this? And a lot of that came through traditional And I think what the elites always underestimate because they live in bubbles, right? Media lives in bubbles, politicians live in bubbles, and they are surrounded by people, it's all group-think, who think the way they think, who act the way they hack, who believe what they believe. And so when you're in this bubble, it's very difficult to understand that other people are thinking in different ways, indifferently than you do. And I think what happened was in that time frame when social media came along, because

the internet, I mean, you had some bloggers and some blogging prior to that that was influential, but social media, which was supposed to be, I think, a real way of really controlling and monitoring people, really got away in a way that I think elites did not expect it. And what happened was there was a lot thi thi thi thi thi their their their thi thi their their thi thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I was a thi. thi. thi. thi, I thi, I thi, I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the. the. the. theeeoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. And, the. a way that I think elites did not expect it. And what happened was there was a lot of understanding and depth that like-minded people could find through the internet. And it was a much faster form of communication with each other and sharing, peer-to-peer sharing. And that's why I'm saying I think the push in the last three years has been to say, we have to fix that. I mean, if you look at what Google has done since 2016, Google has already been problematic long before 2016.

But since 2016, this ML fairness campaign they have, machine learning fairness, which essentially is an algorithm that decides what you see when you type in a Google searchbar. And the whistleblower, who came out to the guys over at James O'Keefe in the Project Veritas, gave really interesting information. If your viewers have not watched it, I would encourage them to go and watch what this guy has to say, because it answers a lot of your questions about when you type something into the Google search bar and you get these ridiculous results. And what he provided were documents showing the method behind this madness.

And the method is very simple. We want to decide what people see in order to create a fairer, more equitable society. The problem is it's what they have decided is fair and equitable. Yep. Yep. And it's who decides what's hate speech and who's what is hate speech? What's not hate speech? You know, it's like Antonio Brown. You know, if somebody calls a black athlete the M word, which is wrong, okay, they get suspended.

If a black athlete calls the GM a cracker, nothing happens. Now, Cracker makes us laugh, that's why they get so angry at it. It's just a ridiculous term because we've taken the word back. That's truly what it is. I mean, we haven't impossible. Don't even get me started on that. I think the N-word is a giant siop that people call themselves the fucking slave owners words for that. It's just ridiculous. But back to what we're talking about. I want to get into one more thing. And this isn't some we talked about earlier, but this, this, we're kind of talking about how it got away from them. Hillary Clinton, she's ancient person. I think she's in her 70s now, right? Emails got hacked. I don't think they got hacked. I think they were downloaded by Seth.

the narrative being put out by the view and Pamela Anderson just going, Bruce Lee, four on one, destroying everybody with their propaganda, those silly little mockingbirds that are sitting there trying to regurgitate stuff. We all know that's not true. And then we find out that this, you know, Hillary's email guy who got busted, uh, trying to b-uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th-try, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, they, the, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they. th. th know that's not true and then we find out that this you know Hillary's email guy who got busted trying to bleach your emails he's also set up this email that was directly sent to a Chinese shipping company now we know China's communists and what does that mean that the government owns everything including a shipping company and these emails were sent in real time this is not a scandal including a shipping company, and these emails were sent

in real time. This is not a scandal. Nobody's talking about this. Do you have any thoughts on that, Ben? Yeah, well, look, I think that what we see over and over, right, happening with Hillary Clinton and her emails and this entire situation is that the U.S. government right now is on a what I would call a quiet, almost silent campaign. Silent because it's just not getting covered at all.

We're covering it actually. We're doing a new episode on this for our podcast coming up in just two weeks from now. But there is an incredible almost silent campaign taking place right now to purge the world of WikiLeaks and to purge the world of everyone associated with it. Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange, this Jeremy Hammond, who was the anonymous guy, who hacked into Stratford, there has been this incredible effort being made that right now continues to punish each one of these individuals, keeping them in prison when they're not even supposed to be in prison. I mean, what's being done to them goes beyond anything that we've seen in the past.

And so what I think is this, when we talk about what happened with Hillary, what happened with Joe Biden's son and his connections to Ukraine, is that we have this incredibly perverse system of elites in Washington who have controlled so much of what goes on around the world. And at the same time, anyone who sheds light on it has now been shifted into becoming public enemy number one. And the U.S. governments tried to do that for some time. It didn't work for a while.

For a while, there was like this, you know, real support for WikiLeaks and Assange, and that's gone away. And now we're seeing this incredible that anyone who was associated with leaking or giving out this information is getting this smear of being an enemy of the state. And it's really incredible that I think the public has kind of either bought into it too much or doesn't even care. I think there are too many people in our society right now who just don't care that Julian Assange is literally dying in a jail cell right now.

And it doesn't matter to them. That Chelsea Manning, who was already had her sentence commuted, is not supposed to be in jail, and it's going to sit in jail for another year because she won't testify in front of the secret grand jury, and is going to owe $441,000 in fines when she gets out. And then you have Jeremy Hammond, who was supposed to be released this December, after serving almost 10 years in prison for hacking in Stratford's email system and then sharing it with WikiLeaks who is now looking at an extension of his prison sentence by two years over the same grand jury. So there is an absolute miscarriage of justice. It's not justice at all. It's completely unjust what's taking place and yet simultaneously too many people as I said in

the public just they either don't care or they're completely uninformed about it. And just look at the what was being said on that view with Pamela Anderson. I don't know if you saw it Ben but you know God bless Pamela Anderson I mean like she's been hot for like three decades and now she's like the hero hero we want she's a hero we need she goes into this lions den and just lights everybody up. And like, why are we listening to McCain? I don't know why anybody takes her voice on anything other than being winning the fucking sperm lottery and being born to a war criminal, okay?

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That's what these rules of war are about. If you capture a soldier, you show them human decency. What we found out that these soldiers in there, it's almost like when you see people work at slaughterhouses, how they treat these animals. And you're like, yes, these animals are about to be slaughtered. But there should be a moment of respect for the sacrifice they're about to make, and I know they're animals, man. But you see the way those guys treat those animals, that's a, that's a, they. th. And thakhea, thathea, thathea, th. And th. And that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, they. they. the way, their, their, their, their, their, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, their, their, their, their, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. th. th. th. th. they. they. they. they. th. person. What we saw them doing to these people that later on we found out these Taliban had nothing to do with it and they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and got scooped up and thrown into Guantanamo and like been treated like less than human beings. You don't want your sons and daughters to be treated like that. That's why you have to expose that. Because war is ugly, but fucking when you disrespect human life, that's even worse.

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they don't want you to see it. They act as of something being classified. It makes it by some kind of king's right that no one is allowed to see it. that's the thear. that's essentially what it is, right? It's a king's right. It's the right of the U.S. government to say, the thrownkno thing. But the question becomes why? In our democratic republic, we are supposed to be as individuals the authority in the country. We're the ones who

decide when we go to war. The reason that the public's supposed to decide that is because we have congressional representatives who are supposed to represent our point of view. And they're supposed to go in and say if we go to war, we decide not a king, not an emperor. And the the the the the the the the we go to war, we decide, not a king, not an emperor, not a president. But we don't have that system. And so, you know, when Assange publishes what he published, you know, the stuff that at the time Bradley Manning gave to him, you have guys on these helicopters shooting people, shooting the guests and then afterwards they say, oh those people were bad people, that's why we went there and shot everyone. That's the kind of stuff that he has revealed.

So to pretend that he's an information terrorist, the other thing that Mega McCain said, that it's so ridiculous, she kept talking about how, you know, in this situation with Assange, that he's put men and women from our military in harm's way. That is such a load of crap. And it's always said, it's always said that you're endangering people by telling the truth. You don't endanger people by revealing horrible things they've done. You're, you're endangering them by doing the horrible thing. And you don't want them to be useless wars. Do the horrible. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. the the the thi. the the the the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. you don't want them into useless wars. Do the horrible thing. Yes, dude. It's just like, what is up is really down. And you, you're, oh, we had spies places. We had this, this, and that.

No, what he fucking put out was that they were committing war crimes against human beings. Okay, right. That's what they put, they, their the reason for that secrecy.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the their th. th. their their their their their their their, if they, there's no reason for that secrecy, man. Dude, they worked for us. They worked for us. And what we've seen is this movement in the last 20 years, or actually since JFK's been assassinated, this deep state movement to basically hijack our government for bankers, and that's not code for Jews that's code for bankers, okay, Swiss, Germans, okay, black nobility, all right? That's what this is about. And they have turned our army, our soldiers, our sons, our daughters into stormtroopers for their interest. Why don't they want us to leave Afghanistan? Because that's where the poppy fields are. Why don't that they want us to leave Afghanistan? Because that's where the minerals that they found that they need to

fucking run these phones are. We are there for banking reasons. Right. But the reality too is that if people have to, you know, think back to 9-11, the anniversary is this week, right, think back to 9-11 and and the bottom line is there was no one from Afghanistan on the planes that were hijacked, they were all Saudis. What's happened with that? 18 years later, we still don't ever hold Saudi Arabia responsible for the fact that Saudi nationals boarded planes and flew them into buildings in the United States. Oh, we have been no repercussion for that. It's even worse than that. We sell them more arms.

We sell them more arms to commit this genocide that's going on. A humongous genocide in Yemen. And not only that, where do you think ISIS gets their weapons from? Where do you think they get them from? They don't get from Russia, they don't get from China, they get it from Saudi Arabia. We are selling arms, our arms, to a country that gives it to people who fight our sons and daughters. Well, and what's, I'll give you one more than that, they also get it directly from us. Because what the US did in both Syria and Iraq is we go in their their their their their their, and their, and one more than that they also get it directly from us because what the u.s. did in both syria and iraq is we go in there and we armed these freedom fighter groups so if you take syria as as just an example we went in there we took this group called the fs a which uh... john mcain you know

never never met a war he doesn't love went over there and fought for these guys that we that we the f FSA, the Free Syrian Army. They were a bunch of Al-Qaeda guys. We gave them the Al-Nusra. We gave them weapons. We trained them how to use them. And then they turned around, I kid you not. And this is all documented, even in mainstream media and government documents, excuse me, and ISIS. And they gave their weapons away. And so all the money that US taxpayers are spending on these weapons that we're sitting over there to help free the Syrian people are going to the very people

that we're fighting. And if you look at what the US, again, this is the US military, is not even hiding it. Iraq, what's happened in Syria, what happened in Libya, we arm these same actors who ultimately become al-Qaeda and fight us or become ISIS and fight us. And we do it all the time. It constantly happens. It happens in basically every country that we're actively involved in.

So let's get into this 9-11. It is the, it is the anniversary approaching. As you know, we always do, you might not have spent, but the listeners, thir, th and we, their, their, might not spend but the listeners know that we do our annual This will be our third annual 9-11 episode and we're gonna break it down, but I feel like I mean there are still people who believe the official narrative And it blows my mind because it's literally impossible. Every moment of that thing is literally impossible. Now let's take into mind that we have even on, even in 2001, we spent more money on our defense than any other place.

Now, a whole argument is, and then we'll get into this University of Alaska study, that Norad couldn't stop this because Norad is about protecting the United States from outside threats. Not in the, like, planes can't fly into our country and stop something. Like, oh, dude, it got past Long Beach, there's nothing we could do. Good luck on that. Get a couple kites up there and see what you could do. Every moment of this thing makes absolutely no sense. So Ben, there's this whole thing coming out, a new case, and a new investigation from the University of Alaska, what is that about? Yeah, so this is what we've covered in our podcast for this week, and we're going into a lot of details. So there's a lot of detail to it, but about four years ago, the group Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth commissioned a study being done by the University of Alaska and a guy by

the name of Dr. Leroy Hulsey. Hulsey is one of the best in the world of what he does in terms of structural buildings, of structural, of structural, the structural, in structural, in structural, in structural, in structural, in structural, in the structural, in the structural, in the structure, in thural, in the structure, in thrub, in their, in thrural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, thi, and structural, and structural, and structural, and structural, and thi, and structural, and structural, and thi, and structural, and structural, and structural, and thi, and structural, and, and structural, and, and, and, and thi, and structural, and, and, and sti, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, their, and, their, their, their, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, sori, sori, sori, sori, sori, sori, sori, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and, and looking at like how they are built, how they collapse, he's just an expert in this field, PhD multiple times over. And so this guy basically spent four years and over $300,000 studying just one building. So remember on 9-11 you had three buildings in New York that came down. You had the North Tower and the South Tower, which were the World Trade Center is known as the Twin Towers, and then you had a third building, which was World Trade Center, Building 7, that also came down. The two came down in the morning, the North Tower and the South Tower, that third tower didn't come down until about 5.26 p.m. an been covering it for about six years, and it's called the Rethink 9-11 campaign. Did you know a third building fell on 9-11? Because most Americans actually don't know there was a third building in New York that came

down. What's important about this is that NIST, the National Institute of Standards and technology in 2008 put out an explanation for how this all happened, right? Because a government organization is going to tell you what happened. And the problem is they are wrong in almost every conclusion that they have come up with how this happened. And what they say is that it was office fires, it was furniture that fell out of the North Tower when it came down, that crashed into this building, it burned for so long that it actually created a progressive collapse and the building came down. You gotta go watch the video of the actual building coming down for anyone who has not seen it or does not remember it. The thing falls straight down into its own footprint. It does not wobble. It comes straight down. It looks like somebody sat in a chair made of

pancakes. And what else other people don't know is like after you look at building seven everybody and you know this if you listen this podcast Go check out building six go look at building six. How is it possible that fire Rips every thing but the walls? I mean go look at building six. I mean go look at building six. I mean go look at building six. It will blow your mind blowing what's going on there. Go look at what was in building six. Go look at the offices there in Building 7. Go look at what part of the Pentagon gets hit. You'll find out that most of its accounting offices. Why?

Why? Oh, yeah, the day before, Donald Rumsfeld and the lizard that he is, was talking about how the Pentagon's lost, what it thirty there six trillion or thirteen trillion dollars the day before and the words that come out of his mouth are literally you're probably wondering why I want to attack you probably think why do I want to attack the Pentagon those words come out of his mouth verbatim and then the next day Pentagon get attacked, here's a problem building 7, Ben. There's something in there called pillars. I don't

know if anyone's ever heard of this architectural thing. You got to be, have a black belt an architect to know about these things. They're called pillars. Now, pillars have one job. That is to keep the roof up and the roof from collapsing onto the floor, because people are in these roofs, in these floors. So they don't naturally fall like that. It is almost impossible for it to happen like that. What are the explanations? Is it simply that fires melted these, what, the toilet paper pillars?

Just fires. No, it's actually a little more specific than that. What they say is that it is a new kind of fire. Now, notice that language, a new kind of fire as a fire is evolving. That's so great. Fire 3.0. Fire 3. the collapse because it burned for so long and so hot.

It created expansion of one beam. And there was one column that a girdered that column that shifted off of its girder and when it fell then it caused the rest of voting to come falling down. One column. You know, here's the thing what's fascinating about this. Obviously that's nonsense in and of itself but even taking that one of the things that Dr. Holsey did is that his team looked at it and what they found out was that N th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes. thoes. thoes. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the is the is the. I the. I was is the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was was the the the. I is the. I is the. I is the. I is the. I is the. I is the. I is the. I is the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. the. the. the. the. that his team looked at it and what they found out was that NIST, so the column, imagine it being just like a long rectangle and a perfect square. And what they, that was how NIST came up with this conclusion that it was able to slide and fall off. The problem was

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That is meant to withstand hits. Now, Ben have you done any investigation into the actual planes themselves and whether they were commercial airlines like everyone says or did we just have a repeat of Operation Northwood? So I have not I have not investigated that part of it at all. What I have really focused on is looking at two, essentially two things. One is, for building seven. One is the actual report that this guy did. And I want to say one more thing about the report.

And I want to say one more thing about the report. The doctor, Dr. Holsey, didn't just tell us would have come down, the only way it could have come down. And that would have been for every single column inside the building, and there was something like 40 or 50 of these columns on the interior of the building to all have been blown, the thelums on the building, to create that free fall the way that it was created. There's one other thing that's important here. This year, just about a month ago, a group of firefighters in New York who are part of the New York board of fire commissioners for the Franklin Square Munson Fire District actually voted unanimously to request a new investigation into 9-11 based upon oral accounts and oral histories from firefighters who were

on the scene on 9-11 who have reported that they heard explosions going to. that they heard bombs going o'clock, who have reported their own. They heard bombs going off. There's also a father of a son named Bobby McElvane. Robert McElvane is his name, who says that his son, when they ultimately did the autopsy, said that he was hit by a force and impacted by a force. Well, he's again, not in one of these towers

where the plane hit. He's in this other building. So there's a lot of this that's going that's going that's going thatms of that building seven and not only the way it came down, but again, this is the first time in the 18 years since 9-11 that an actual elected board has requested a new investigation into the way those buildings came down, and they requested it for all three buildings, the North Tower, the South Tower and Building 7 because they say firefighters in all three buildings heard explosions in the basement area before those buildings came down. Couldn't agree more.

And listen, dude, it's people. It's the people that are going to demand that change. You know, it's like what we're sitting here and basically saying is that there's some dark arts behind us. I'm saying it's not Ben. I'm saying Saudi Arabia, Massad and the U.S. government work together to get this going, which is a false flag, okay? And why do we have a false flag? And it's some I want to ask you about, Ben. Ben, do you think these false flags let people know where the power really lays? That they need the people to co-sign their bullshit for them to move forward? And when they don't, because we saw it with Iran and the botching of the Japanese tanker

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to tell enough. We can't I literally I'm being truthful. I can't talk about enough people want to hear about that That warms my soul up because it means that people know something's going on Something's going on, but we have this Epstein situation happen Everybody you know, there's a blackout and everybody laughs. They're probably trying to kill Epstein turns out they did and then botched. And then a week later, it happens. And, but when that happens and they release all these documents, boom, two false flag, two two mass shootings happen.

One El Paso, one in Ohio. Both kids, parents have connections to intelligence services, a deep state shit, whether it's, uh, DARPA in terms of the Ohio shooter or the CIA in terms of the El Paso shooter, there's always a connection to shift our focus from what's really going on, but we're still called conspiracy theorists. What's the latest in Epstein? Have you learned anything new? So the latest that I have seen on it, first of all, is the very sad reality that the story

is drifting away. It's disappearing exactly as they've wanted it to. And so, you know, if you go down the list and there are about seven or eight things that took place just if we're talking about the so-called suicide that wasn't a suicide, right? Do you think he's still alive that I did? Do you think he's still alive? So, you know, I keep hearing from people who think that he is and they're making some pretty good points about it. You know, I don't personally I don't yet, but listen, I believe in not believing anything until you see it for yourself and so, you know, I keep hearing for people who th... their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. I's, their, their, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I their, I their, I did, I their, I their, I's, I's, I's, I's is, I's is, I's, I's is.... I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I's, you know, I keep hearing for people who say,

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I mean, if you were in power and you don't want this guy talking about you and he's a Massad intelligence asset, why not just kill him? And then don't vary the body, because you create a lot of noise that surrounds this thing saying, well, where is he really dead? Is he on an the he he on them alive? Why even bother keeping them alive? But you're keeping the story going in a lot of different directions. There have been, you know, credible, multiple reports over the years about CIA tactics where they actually release different stories into the media intentionally in order to create so much confusion that no one knows what's happening. And I think that's, this is one of those stories. So many things wrong with it that you don't even hide the fact that you suicided the guy.

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Why? Why is it like Jeffrey Epstein and Notorious B.G. are cleaning up this guy's pool? Why does it look like that? What do? Why are you doing lawn maintenance? Why are you keeping up the island? If nobody's going to be there any time soon? No one should want to buy that. You can't sell that. Some dude, yeah, you can sell it to a scumbag elitist. Go on, Ben, sorry. Oh, no, why not sell it to someone who's not a scumbag who could then actually access the island of what was actually there? What's actually on that island and his weird satanic temple and all the, you know, the stuff that's going on there. to you know, if you look at how this whole thing has played out,

there wasn't even an effort made to hide the fact that we're not really trying to get Jeffrey Epstein. They didn't try to get him in 2008. They didn't try to get him for the dozen years that went by in between his slap on the wrist and, you know, he being arrested arrested, the the the they..... you know, he being arrested again the second time, that nothing was done, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, we need to paint this picture into something else. So Jeffrey Epstein is the bad guy, make him the ghoul, make him as bad as we possibly can,

let's kill him and then it's over with, and then we can move on because the new cycle needs to move on. And it's even, you know, I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin' thin, thin' thin' thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin, thin thin, thin' thin' thin' thin' thi, thin' thin' thin' thin' thin, thin, than, than, than, than, than, than, than, thee thin, the the the the the the the the the an thin, th kind of thing where even though the public as a whole knows it's all bold, they know that they've been lied to, they know what's going on here, what can you do about it? Right? That's where we find ourselves back to. And this whole story of elites who are pedophiles, it's so interesting to me that even to this day, most mainstream sources refuse to call Jeffrey Epstein a pedophile. Or they just, that's not a term they want to use when they describe him.

And so they're very, very careful because they're so afraid they're going to lean into these other very high-profile cases where of accusations made of accusations made, which have been made, with a lot of proof. Well, I mean, let's get into the fact that they refuse they they they they they they they they they th they th th th the the, the, the, the, thi thi thi thi thi those accusations have been made with a lot of proof. Well, I mean, let's get into the fact that they refuse to say child sex trafficking and they only say sex trafficking. Over and over and over again, let's just take a look at the Clinton Global Initiative. Within the year 2019, there have been four cases in which the Clinton Global Initiative, a global initiative that Jeffrey Epstein said he helped create.

He did it, there is documentation of him sending out documents saying I was a co-founder of the Clinton Global Initiative. So we have Nexium. We have Epstein, we have El Chappo, El Chappo was brought up on child sex trafficking charges and John of God, both of them part of the Clinton, all for them, the Clinton Global Initiative. At what point does it no longer just become bad luck or coincidence and we start seeing a pattern?

At what point do we really say we don't like pedophilia? Because it just seems like Penn State lost a, did lose a second of football time? Michigan State did lose one scholarship when they were discovered rapid penophilia. What are we doing here? I mean it's just unbelievably what does this chick need to do? Now it's coming out that she's thinking and we're gonna get in the Tulsi Gabra getting screwed. I mean like we have we have Hillary Clinton talking to Elizabeth Warren about the 2020 election. How is this woman allowed to even tweet? What does it take if Duncan Donuts got busted with pedophilia? I mean look at subway they're they're fucking

they're spokesman pedophilia didn I mean look at Subway. They're they're fucking, they're spokesman, pedophilia. Didn't lose one sandwich. Nobody stopped eating any. Nobody said fuck it. I'm going to Quizno's. Nope, no one cares. Sandwiches are five bucks. I don't know man. I don't know and now you got this new election coming. We see them screwing Tulsa Gabar. I know people say she's CFR, she's Sheldon Anderson's puppet, possibly, you know, but we're seeing the people not getting what they're doing. We're seeing the DNC committing the same. I mean the DNC is doing so well. They now have to go get political money from Mexico because nobody's throwing them any money. What's your thoughts on Tulsa, Tulsa Gabbard? Yeah, you know, the thing with Tulsa is, look, as a candidate, I don't really care one way

or the other, where candidates stand, but as a journalist, I look at the game that's being played with Tulsi right now to remove her from that debate state. So she's not going to be allowed to debate in this upcoming debate. She's gotten completely screwed by the DNC because they did not like, I think it's because they did not like what she did to Kamala Harris in the last debate, where she eviscerated her and basically laid out, here is her record as a prosecutor and the fact that she had people on death row and suppressed him for evidence that could

have gotten people off of death row. And did what a moderator by the way. What Tulsa Gabor did to Camala Harris is what a moderator is supposed to do in these debates. Moderators don't do that. You know Chuck Todd in the first debate actually talked more than the candidates did. And it wasn't about, it wasn't him asking questions. It's him just pontificating about BS. And so what I think what we need to see is is a stronger opportunity, first of all, for those candidates to be able to be in these debates. But the other thing thing is, between what what's happening with Tulsi, the D. tol and tol and tol and tolso, the D. the D. tolso, the d. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, thi. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, thi. It, thi. It's is, they. It's is, they. It's is, they. It's is, they. It's is, they. It's they. It's toda. It's toda. It's toda. It's today. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's toda. It's happening with Tulsa, obviously we know that the DNC and Bernie what they did to him last time. With Tulsa, they're doing the same thing again.

They have this super delegate thing, which was actually created, by the way, after Jimmy Carter became president, because the DNC didn't like the way, whether you like Jimmy Carter or not, was the last president we had that did not start a war anywhere. The last president that we had in this country who was not a war president, and then the DNC said, we're not going to have this guy anymore, so they created super delegates so that they could override the will of their voters, ultimately when they are selecting their candidate. But what's really interesting about that whole scenario is that if you look at what's happening right now with the DNC and what's happening with Tulsa

and what's happening really across the board is that what we need to recognize in this country is that these organizations, the Republican Party, which by the way now says it's not going to have caucuses and primaries, even though there are a couple candidates who want to run against Trump, or we're not going to have those, we're not going to bother having those. They say that they are private clubs. Therefore, no election rules apply to them. They can do whatever they want.

They can do whatever they want. They can do whatever they want, because they're private clubs. And yet, American taxpayers are subsidizing the Republican and Democratic parties at $300 million a year. Why are we giving them $300 million a year as taxpayers to private clubs that say, we'll make up rules and prevent candidates for being able to run? So that's my biggest issue with it. If the Republicans and Democrats want to be private clubs, they need to be private clubs. But they should not be allowed to use taxpayer-funded entities. Voting should not take place in schools and firehouses. You need to pay for all of it yourselves, or it needs to be completely open so that anybody

can vote, and you don't get to run people out of debates because you make up some crazy arbitrary rule for polling that doesn't seem to make any sense to anybody. The facade of democracy is dying. And that is why I believe the Second Amendment is the most important issue of our time. And I believe once those go, bad shit follows. And history has shown that. You know, if you're Jewish, if you're Russian, if you're Armenian, if you're Chinese, and you're on Twitter talking about taking away guns, you don't know your own history.

When the confiscation of guns come, genocide always follows. Now there's this whole thing that this truth movement is just being allowed to happen, so they know who's shit-talking, so when the time comes, they come for us. And I say, bring it, dude, because I'd rather die free than this bitch-ass-shit you guys are trying to get us to do. This woke shit. Oh, good, you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th you th you that th you that that th th you that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't thus thus thus thoes thoes thoes thoes to do. This woke shit, oh good, you got a black boyfriend and a gay friend.

That doesn't mean you're a liberal, man. Liberal is open-minded to all things, including things you don't like, meaning you'll hear their point of view. And anything other than that is not liberalism, and that is manufactured PSOP shit, progressivism, social justice warrior bullshit. Leftism is not liberalism.

The DNC is not liberalism. Liberalism is we are all equal. We should all get treated like that. So I see, we're talking earlier about how this gentleman, and we'll wrap it up after this, Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute, just got banned on Twitter for a week for using the word retarded. Guess what, Ben? I was banned for one week from Twitter for explaining what the word retard meant.

That it didn't mean mentally challenged and meant dumb asshole. My girlfriend hates me right now, and I flunked first grade. Guess what that makes me, a dumb asshole, okay? So I'm retarded. You can't take my word for me, all right? This is what we're seeing, do these weird rules that they use to ban the dissension, the ban, I hate the word alternative. But who are these people to decide what

is what is offensive and not offensive especially we got somebody like Google who just thought it was okay to sell the data of children without their parents permission to fucking people what are your whole thoughts on that yeah well that's a that's a great point I mean I can't make a better point than that when when Google and they get this slap on the wrist, $170 million fine, oh, don't do that anymore, why are people going to jail for that? You took data of people's children and sold it. And at the same time, yeah, you're absolutely right.

We have this insane, and that's why I used the term in the beginning, so we kind of come full circle circle here, thu cir thuil, I know Daniel, he's a guy from the Rompel Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Basically, he's an anti-war guy and that's what he talks mostly about. Is any, and he calls out, he calls out bullshit. Whether it's, whether it's Venezuela and what the US is trying to do down there, or what they informed guy. And so he referred to Sean Hannity as retarded and not even in his actual tweet. He put out this tweet and then someone responded to him and then in the response he said, it's retarded and what he was saying was this, Sean Hannity spent an entire 30 minutes of his show talking about the deep state. And now he wanted to, you know, the deep state is destroying America. And he says, and while he's sitting there, he's wearing a pin that's a CIA pin on his lapel. And so what he wrote was that Sean Hannity is retarded if he's, you know, angry at the deep state,

but he's okay with the CIA, because that is the very definition of the deep state. That was his point. And so Twitter banned, has to be reinstated and they said no you've been permanently banned. Permanently banned? Meanwhile, Chrissy Teagan goes on Twitter and uses a whole list of expletives talking about President Trump. Is she banned from Twitter? Yeah. What she said is actually, you know, actually obscene as opposed to what he said, which

you might consider just to be, you know, not very tasteful. But it's not even like hate speech, whatever that is, it's not even hate speech. So the fact that this is happening, I think, just goes back to what we were talking about before, that you have these social engineering companies that are trying to control who has a voice, who's allowed to speak, because if they can funnel, they think, if they can funnel, everyone into the same mindset, they can make their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thin, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is is is just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin.... So. Soh. thin. thin. thin. thin. throoooooooooooooooooooooooooi.a. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thing. And that's where they're wrong. What Google is going to find out, what Twitter and Facebook are going to find out is they think they're going to be able to dominate the masses by controlling their point of view. And instead what they're going to do is squeeze too hard. And you over squeeze and everything's going to kind of come out in just other forms, competition, other platforms that will be the their their th this. And I think that's what has to happen.

It's something that we're building, there's something called ICE media. We're working on a platform right now in order to be able to give everyone, everyone, a platform when they have free speech. Because we believe so strongly in free speech. I don't have to agree with your not listen to you if I don't agree with you or don't like you. But this idea of purging people, I think it's an overstep and in a few years we'll be talking about hey remember when Twitter and Facebook and Google made the mistake of overstepping and overreaching. I couldn't agree with you more. I was watching an old clip of John Stewart and I forgot how much of a master John Stewart was

and how he was talking about how crazy the Republican Party is. And now five years later we're talking about how crazy the DNC is. I think people need to remember, stop getting into R's and D's because they work for, they're two heads of the same, I don't even want to say snake because I'm Team Serpent. They're two heads of the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same, I don't even want to say snake because I'm team serpent, they're two heads of the same monster, okay? And they used to say, a Republican, well, dude, I don't know if you remember it's been, only a couple years ago they were saying, we don't see a Republican president ever winning the presidency again. And now they're saying, will the DNC ever survive? These are the tactics they play. They go back and forth and the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I their th. I'm their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I I I I I I I is is is is their. I is their. I is is their. I is their. I is their. I is their. I's is th. I's is ta. I's is ta. I's is ta. I'm ta. I'm ta. I'm ta. ta. ta. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their tactics they play. They go back and forth. Good coat, bad cop. Don't forget about who pushed on you.

Weapons of Mass Destruction. Who pushed on you? George Bush won Florida. It was Fox News with co-signing from CNN. Okay. And now it's MSNBC with Hillary got hacked and Russia gate. They are working for the same people. And we're gonna know this.

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