Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #230: 9/11 Truth with Richard Gage

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

Thank you so much for tuning in for our 3rd annual 9/11 episode on Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Richard Gage! Mr. Gage scientifically and calmly presents several pieces of evidence that suggest that the official story is pure BS and that we need a new proper legit investigation into who was responsible for carrying out one of the worst acts ever on American soil. Please check Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth website for their special presentation with NYFD chiefs on 9/11 to demanding a new investigation. https://www.ae911truth.org Happy 9/11 and thank you so much for your support. Ben's youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/benswann Please check out.... My album is available for sale on iTunes. So go buy Sam Tripoli Live At the Viper Room. Watch my two specials for free at Samtripoli.com Watch my appearance on the CW's "Mysteries Decoded" with Jennifer Marshall. Jenn and I investigate the murky world of the Montauk Project. www.cwseed.com/shows/mysteries-d…9660-efca3aa0cdf6 Please check out.... My youtube.com Youtube.com/SamTripoli Patreon: Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Tshirts: TinFoilHattshirts.com Cameo.com www.cameo.com/samtripoli Thank you to our sponsors: Absolute Xtracts: Please go to ABX.org and use the promo code "Chaos" for 20% off of all you CBD, Flower and Vap purchases! Blue Chew; Right now, we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code HAT -- Just pay $5 shipping. Again, that’s B - L - U - E - CHEW dot com, promo code HAT to try it FREE. Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code TINFOILHAT at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code TINFOILHAT AbsoluteXracts: Check out our sponsors at ABX.org! They are the Nike of weed and have everything you might need to get lit as f@ck! BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. We have big shows coming please check them dates out: Sept 13th- San Fran Cobbs Comedy Sept 20th- Austin Texas Stateside at the Paramount Oct 4th- NYC the Gramercy Oct 19th- Salt Lake City Wise Guys Nov 15th- Vegas Backstage Bar and Billiards Nov 22nd-25th- La Jolla Comedy Store Dec 20th- Portland The Mississippi

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It is our third annual episode. It is our 9-11. Let's get to the Truth episode. As always, we do this every year on 9-11. We drop them truth bombs to let you know that one of the greatest attacks on American soil still has not been prosecuted. Nobody has been prosecuted about the 9-11 attack. So that's today's episode before we get into it guys. Guess what? This Friday night, we are live at COVs. Holla-Holla-Dollah-Dollahs.

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All the usual suspects will be there. This time, Riebker will be joining us as always. And you never know who might pop in. Who might be out there. You never know. You never know. I'm supposed to go on Info Wars when we're out there. Yeah, that shit sounds crazy. Yeah, I'm gonna go on it and then just talk about, you know, Jared Kushner's a piece of shit. That's really what I'm gonna talk about the whole time. So go grab those tickets. We are at the state side at the Paramount Theater, man. Come out and rock. Come and hang out with us. You ever want me, hot chicks who do Jiu Jitsu? Yeah, stunters.

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Coast the Mesa? Yeah, co-teachers were just like, the TV on the kids didn't care it was just like free for all That's sucks. Teachers were just like it's don't worry about it. I got home my mom was still like like Mexican she was like some shit went down I don't know Mexicans wasn't really didn't really affect them carous one's like I'm glad no I love it happened no I remember where I was I was working at the standard hotel I walked up and the head of the valets because I was a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t up and the head of the valets, because I was a valet at the time. Yes, I worked at the Standard Hotel. God, I just realized that. That's gonna go, dude, he worked at the Standard. What more do you need to know that he's controlled opposition?

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Okay? Yeah, I worked there, dude. I worked there. It's very funny because I used to work at, I used to, I picked up as a regular to comedy store and then I would have to go and, uh, yeah, hit him up, hit up our guest stuff. Yeah, hit him up. Hit up, hit up our guests now. Good. So you, so you found out it was, the towers went down instantly. Did you know, it was a conspiracy instantly, were you like, what the fuck's going on? I mean, yeah, I mean, like, I've always been suspicious of everything, dude, and he just didn't make sense. I mean, for me, it's like, we're the, how much money do we spend on our military? And these cats, hey, we can hear, can you, we got,

can we turn that? Thank you. Let's see if he answers, because he, he had to do some stuff, so hopefully he will answer. And if not, this song will haunt your fucking nightmare. Haunts my nightmares. Do, doo-doo. We are calling, Richard. See there?

Nope. We are calling you now. Okay. Uh, I knew it was. And you know what? I had to work that day. I worked the whole day and I was so upset because I'm like, why am I here right now? It's just like our Pearl Harbor and I'm stuck parking people's cars.

And it's just like sucked. And like, the world changed that day. It changed that day forever. And like, it was just like innocence died that day. I remember it, dude. It was just like, there's day. I remember it, dude. It was just like there's so many things that used to fly that just died that day. And it was definitely the movement to, I mean, we'd already had basically George Bush hijack the election in 2000. I mean, like, this is a setup to this we they know it's happening

Him he had to win the election El Gore Here we go here we go joining us there. He is joining us via the power sky. they're doing Sam pretty good. Can we get you on video? We don't get you on video? There are oh look at that live from somewhere very interesting looking at that's that's a wonderful place where are you right now without? Without giving? the? the? the the the the the to? to to? the to to to the to to the the the to to to to the to the to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win to win the election. the election. the election. the election. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the the the. the the. the the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to the. Live from somewhere very interesting looking at. That's a wonderful place. Where are you right now without giving us the exact location? Washington, D.C. It's a friend of mine, his house.

Well, you look great. Joining us, it is an honor to have him on the show. Sometimes we get people on the show, and I'm like, I can't believe these people join us on the show. Sometimes we get people on the show and I'm like, I can't believe these people join us on the show and they do and this guy is doing some amazing work right now. It's like a true, I mean Annie's throwing on his Jackie, he's going, he's going to Mr. Rogers on us. He's gonna throw a throw a, he's gonna throw on some slippers and just tell us to love each other. We're very very very very very very very very very to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. to th. to th. to to the to to to to to to to to to the throw throw to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their the that. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. toean. toean. toean. thean. thean. And thean. And, the an throw on some slippers and just tell us to love each other. We're very excited to have him on. He's from Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. Please welcome Richard Gage everybody.

How are you, Richard? How are you? Doing great, guys. Thanks so much for having me on. 11 is so important to the world, particularly right now when the American public is, is, you know, been called conspiracy theorists, all of them, right? They've been Epsteined. Yes, yes, yes, for a brief 18 hours, we got everybody was a conspiracy theorist, and then we've seen the moving back to you're just crazy people who own a thousand cats and have a tin file hat on your head. I just want to

give you being where you are we're going to get into what your organization's doing where your case is how this is affecting other cases but do you still get blown away that there are people who believe the official narrative? Well, what blows me away is they won't, most of them, are not open to looking at alternatives to the official narrative. And so, you know, we have 3,000 architects and engineers now, signed on to our petition demanding a new investigation into the destruction of all three of these World Trade Center skyscrapers.

And that should be enough to incite people to look at what they might be talking about, right? But many people won't. And I'm talking also, architect and engineers, even with the backing of that many incredible, incredible people. It's, it's, um, it's, um, it's, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, it's, the, it's, the, the, the, it's, the, it's, the, it's, the, the, it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world's, their, the backing of that many incredible, I mean, credible people, it's sometimes not enough. It's often not enough. So I have to get people into a presentation like I did, you know, in 2006, when I brought my whole firm in.

They thought I was nuts at first, after I had become aware of this information, and created a PowerPoint from Stephen Jones, me and they thought I was nuts at first after I had become aware of this information and created a PowerPoint from Stephen Jones, nuclear physicist formerly from Brigham Young University and brought them in, made them look at this stuff and they go, oh my God, you're right after 45 minutes, right? These are controlled demolitions. So that's what happens again and again again all around the world, you know, 600 presentations, 24 kinds of times, 24 kind times, twenty-up, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, uh, th, th, th, th, their, uh, their, uh, their, uh, their, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, their, nuclear, their, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, nuclear, their, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, nuclear, their again and again and again. All around the world, you know, 600 presentations, 24 countries and 100 American cities, groups of up to 4,000. If they come and see the presentation,

they raise their hand and they go, oh shoot, now I gotta deal with this. Yep, it's unbelievable. Why? We're going to, I just got to ask one more question, then we'll get into where you were and all that stuff and how this affects you, but what is the biggest pushback you get from critics of what you're trying to do. Why don't they want to believe it?

What is about this information you have that scares them so much? It is scary and a lot of times that fear is visible and seen and felt by us who are talking about this. A lot of times it is not. A lot of times it is masked by anger. How could you possibly believe and disrespect the families of the 9-11 victims and believe that our government could have had something to do with this? It's absolutely incredulous. This is like turning, and by the way, we don't cast blame on our government at all right

we're just talking about the scientific forensic evidence available from the records from the US Geological Survey from the the testimony of the fire first responders the videos etc. How could how could you how could you even think to to cast blame other than on these Muslims who did this to us? So it's almost like turning their world view upside down, which is what happened to me, Sam. I'm talking 12 years ago. I didn't have a clue. No one told me anything about any possible theory. And here I am driving my car down the road and home from a construction observation meeting in a Bay Area.

And I'm here in David Ray Griffin, being interviewed by Bonnie Faulkner on KPFA's guns and butter. This is March, I think it was, in 2006. And I'm just shocked to hear any alternative theory, right? Here's a, you're telling me a third building went down that day, a skyscraper........., a their, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thomom, from from from thom, from from from from from from from from a home, from from from from from from from a home, from from from from a home, from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from from a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction. A sky, a sc-a, a scs. A sky, a scs. A sky sky sky sky sky sky sky sky sky-a, a sky-a, a sky-a, a skyscripa, a skyscripa, a skyscripa, a skyscripa, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a construction, a thi. thi. thi. thi. hear any alternative theory. You're telling me a third building went down that day, a skyscraper, and I'm going, what? What are you talking about?

There were only two planes. And this is, I'm just in shock. So I had to go find out if this was true. And by God, my research was revealing things I didn't want to know because I was a flag-waving Republican. Reagan-Republican, right? I was watching Colin Powell's who was making his case, his indisputable case, over weapons of mass destruction.

And Saddam Hussein ties to him too, right? With Osama Bin Laden. I'm going, yeah, let's go get those bastards who did this to us. But this woke me up. It turned me around, it turned me upside down. I was fighting it. I wasn't sleeping at night. It was very hard. I mean, this is a wake up called deep in the visceral area. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, th, that, that, that, th, that, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, th, th, th, th, th, tha, that, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to to to to to to to that, that, that, thus, that, tho, tha, I mean, this is a wake up called deep in the visceral area.

Yeah, I hear that argument a lot too, like when I discuss, obviously I'm on a show Tim Foll hat, we're spiritual skeptics of the official narrative. We ask the questions and the big pushback we get is, why are you disrespecting the families of the victims? And I go, how is this disrespectful? We have a whole cottage industry of murder television. And most of this murder television deals with wrongly accused of murder. And nobody ever tells those shows how dare you disrespect those victims by trying to find out who really did it? I pray to God that my family or none of my family are ever involved in a catastrophe like this. But I know if they are, I know I want to know who did it.

I know I want to know who did it. I don't want just somebody convicted so we can all move on with our lives. I want to know who did it right. And if there's somebody in jail or there's somebody being accused of it and it's false accusations, I want to know that. So that person doesn't bear the blunt and the burden and the karma of an action that they didn't take. The notion that it's disrespectful to the family of victims to actually try to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their.a.a.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.c.s.c.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. I. I's. So. So. So, their. So, their disrespectful to the family of victims to actually try to find out really happens is the most sheep of sheep mentalities. It is not to be crude sir but it's is your head can't get farther up your ass. Then sit there and say and I'm sorry that's my style not yours. I want to know where you were when 9-11 happened.

I was in my apartment with my wife at the time. We were getting ready for work, and we turned on the TV to check out the news and oh, my God, look what was unfolding. The towers had been hit by planes, but they hadn't fallen yet. So here we're watching them fall on TV, and I'm just in shock, like everybody else, right? I'm, I'd never seen anything like this. I mean, here is a, what we're told is a gravitational collapse later, but during the day, we initially, we just didn't have the means of processing this. This, actually the towers, the twin towers

don't look like a typical classic implosion, like building seven, if you want to show that collapse. It comes down uniformly symmetrically into its own footprint, just like the old hotels in Las Vegas. At a rate of gravity as well. At the rate of gravity. Oh yeah, free fall acceleration. It's amazing. And the towers, on the other hand, we're very explosive after the first four seconds. So with the towers, the official story tells us that the planes had weakened the steel, and

that caused the upper part of this building to drop and then pushed the rest of the building down to the ground, and then pushed the rest of the building down to the ground and then it destroyed itself. It's called the Crushdown Crush Up Theory. And this is something that was put forth two days after 9-11. And within within two days, this Chicago Northwestern University professor, Sedenik Besant had submitted this detailed scientific paper.

Everybody else is in shock, right? I don't know what's going on. And here, this remains the theoretical basis for NIST's theory, which is the column failure theory, pushing the top down, crushing it from the top down. And so this is completely rigged, this structural, the structural interest, the structural, the top down, crushing it from the top down. And so this is completely rigged, this structural engineering paper in favor of a collapse, 12 to 1. It's been decoded by engineers now. It's completely false, just like the NIST report that came out in 2004,

from beginning to end riddled with false assumptions and input errors that we know about and there's some that we don't know about because they won't even release their report to the engineers and architects who are tasked with ensuring the public safety. But they say it might jeopardize public safety if we were to release this information. That was regarding building seven. Yeah, we find that that, you know, this is the big push-out we talked about in our last episode, this classifying of documents because they don't want us to know truth. It's more about covering asses. Okay? What was the first moment that you realized when you did some research that oh this isn't the

real story, this is the real story. What we're being told isn't right. Was there a piece of evidence that you were like, oh my God, there's something else going on here? It was a series of cascading failures in my brain upon hearing this scientific evidence from this elderly gentleman, David Ray Griffin, who had written by now 10 books on this subject. And he was telling me that a third skyscraper went down, and I'm just going, what? This turns out to be the smoking gun for me. The fact that I'm a member of the American Institute of Architects, and we have 80,000 architects, and not one of us got one email, I mean, or one bulletin from this premier association

of architects about the third worst structural failure in modern history. It was like it just got swept under the rug. I mean, here's a 47-story skyscraper in the middle of the World Trade Center, well on the edge of the World Trade Center, the middle of Manhattan, lower Manhattan. And in the afternoon of 9.11 at 5.20 p.m. This building drops like a rock, as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky, straight

down uniformly into its own footprint in under seven seconds. This looks exactly like the old hotels in Las Vegas. So you would think that the investigation by NIST, which took seven years, would have hypothesized at least one of their hypotheses would be controlled demolition or explosions, right? Because no skyscraper has ever fallen due to fire before 9-11. So here's like the first one, you know, it wasn't hit by an airplane, right? Only two airplanes. And we have three skyscrapers go down. So here's this third skyscraper, and they come out with their final report in March of 2008 or August, and they say it came down by normal office fires. Wait a minute. How did that happen? This is completely unprecedented. It should

be the most studied failure in all of our structural failures in architecture and engineering, and yet we find as we go to conferences around the country that no, well, very few of the architects and engineers are even aware of building seven's collapse. This is an incredible, extraordinary omission. And so it's been our job to wake up architects and engineers to the fact that it came down, show that it to them, and they immediately say, gosh, that's a controlled demolition, right? Anybody watch that happen? 9-11. So let me ask you something. So I don't, I've never researched into who, who actually

built Building 7. I don't know if he's still live, or he has some kind of, you know, company, or estate that's in charge of whatever he did. Has anyone ever talked to the actual people that built the building and goes, does this make any sense to what you build? Because, you know, there are things in there called pillars. You know this. Most people, apparently don't. Their whole job is to make sure that

the ceiling does not fall to the floor and crush everybody in between. Yet, we have these fires, and obviously these pillars must have been made of paper mache, origami, something like that, these mystical fires that we've never seen before, maybe by Zeus, we don't know, cause this thing to collapse. Has anyone ever heard from the actual architects who designed the building? Yeah, they all support the official story. Leslie Roberts in particular, he's the structural engineer of the Twin Towers. Structural engineer of the World Trade Center 7 was Irwin Cantor, and I have not written him.

So I would like, I don't know if he's still alive, these buildings were built in 1986, the World Trade Center 7, I mean. And Larry Silversstein, who built it, and then later acquired the Twin Towers and the rest of the World Trade Center in a very interesting and suspicious deal, which he was not the lower bidder on, but he only put forth $125 million of his own money in a $3.2 billion deal, highly leveraged. So put massive Paris insurance on it.

And when it went down, he ended up the sole owner of the insurance payout and the land. So this is an amazing deal for him, and he didn't have to, of course, abate the asbestos, which the city of New York was requiring the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, course abate the asbestos which the city of New York was requiring the the the the Port Authority who who developed this this World Trade Center piece yeah and so he he ended up with all of this money I this and It's absolutely incredible. I don't think I answered your question. No, no, no, it's fine. You did. Working my way there.

No, no, no, it's fine. Okay, keep going. So you just blew my mind. I didn't know he paid that little for that, that, all that property, and that he basically put up, like what, not even a 10 10 10 10 10 10 take to purchase the value of it and then to throw some insurance on it and then be the only day he never showed up to work is like so suspicious to me. But finish your thoughts. Sorry about that. The guy who actually built the building seven. Yeah and on top of this in a year later he's on PBS television being interviewed about building seven. Yeah, and on top of this, in a year later, he's on PBS television being interviewed about

building seven, and he says this, I was, there's been such terrible loss of life. I was talking to the fire commander and maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And so they gave the order to pull and we watched the building come down. He said that. I've seen that video but it's like yeah well so so then everything else is moot at this point everything else is a lie if the guy who owns it said he pulled it that's controlled demolition at that point. What does he mean pull it? Blow on it? Like what does that mean? Like what? Yeah, there's a term in a controlled demolition industry, pull it. And that's, uh, that's what, the only thing he could be referred to. What he said back later, you know, after getting lots and lots of phone calls about this? He says, no, I meant pull the firemen out of the building.

Well there were no firemen fighting fires in the building. They were told not to fight the fires. They were told it had structural damage by an anonymous engineer, which they won't release the name of. That said it had structural damage and they asked him, well, how long do you think this building will last? And he said five hours, guess what? Five hours later, this building experienced an unprecedented collapse. They said he was pretty much right on the money. Wow. No skyscrapers ever come down in the fire. Ever. Ever. And then we have on top of that, we see the video with the, I think the BBC report. Have you seen that? Where she announces that Tower 7, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th of that we see the video with the I think the BBC report have you seen that where she announces that tower seven has gone down and it's sitting right behind her? Yep right over her shoulder and they even give the reason for

this tower is 20 minutes early by the way before it comes down they say due to structural weakening when the towers went down. Well, wait a minute. The building is still standing, Jane. They apologize for this grievous error, citing the confusing events of the day. Does that make them psychic? See, that's the whole thing with conspiracy theorists. And you're, you're, you're an engineer, you're an architect, you are not a conspiracy the the theirs. I am. But what we see is the the building the building the building the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building is the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, the building, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're an architect, you are not a conspiracy theorist, I am. But what we see is these group, all these coincidences have to happen. All at the same time, remarkably, for these things to go down.

I don't even know why we're debating after he says, pull it. We have the man who owned the place saying, he basically said, knock it down. I don't even know why we're debating after he says pull it. We have the man who owned the place saying he basically said, knock it down. But here we are, here you are, having to push your case through court to sell the story to the masses and that all you're saying is we should, you're not even saying convict them. You're just, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're just saying we need to reopen the investigation. That's exactly right. And the lawyers committee for 9-11 inquiry

has submitted a petition to the US attorney, the US attorney in Manhattan demanding a new investigation. And he wrote back. And as he has to, by law, you're the to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're that, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're that, you're that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that, that the,. attorney, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan demanding a new investigation, and he wrote back, and as he has to, by law, and say, I will comply with the law requiring me to impanel a special grand jury. So we've been waiting now since November for signs that a grand jury has been impaneled. We expect to be called as expert witnesses. And as a result of the lack of visible action on their part, our attorneys have submitted now a mandamus action, which will force them by law, by the court, to act with greater speed

and give evidence that such a grand jury is underway. So yeah, that's one legal, on the legal front, we've got that and we're suing the FBI as well. Because the FBI withheld evidence from Congress after the 9-11 commission report was due to be submitted, excuse me, was published, the FBI was required by the 2015 9-11 Review Commission to submit evidence that they had and assess it to Congress.

Well, they had our DVD, 9-11 Blueprint for Truth, and they even wrote back to us saying, this appears to be backed by thorough research and analysis. And they didn't submit that to, so they're on the hook saying this appears to be backed by thorough research and analysis. And they didn't submit that to, so they're on the hook for that and the nanothermite paper, which is a small team of scientists led by Neil's Herret and Copenhagen, they found chips, red-gray chips of nanothermite, which is an extraordinary material. They look like paint chips. They're real small. There's up to 10 tons of this material and all the dust by extrapolation. But they they

analyze seven of these and this is pure reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. And when these these are chips of thermite at the nano scale. What is thermite? Can you explain to our listeners? I know what thermite is. He probably doesn't. I know. I know exactly. What is thermite? It's an incendiary used by the military to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. So here's this material which has been engineered to become more explosive at the nanoscale, a very sophisticated process, made only in the most advanced defense contracting laboratories. So it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, uh, uh, uh, it's, uh, it's, what, uh, it's, it's, uh, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, the, what, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is, the th. is, th nanoscale, a very sophisticated process made only in the most advanced defense contracting laboratories. So it's, it's, when you, when you, when you ignite it in the lab, it produces molten iron

microspheres. Now guess what? Those molten iron microspheres are, they're real tiny, right? But these are the same molten iron microspheres are real tiny, right? But these are the same molten iron microspheres found by the U.S. geological survey in all of their toxilogical studies of the World Trade Center dust. Oh, my God. The EPA says it's not even world trade center dust if it doesn't have these molten iron microspheres, which we don't even know where they came from, but they're everywhere throughout all the dust. It's a signature component.

So with the same chemical signature of the molten iron microspheres that they get when these chips, red gray chips are ignited. So we know where those molten iron microspheres came from. This is the evidence of ignited thermite, and nanothermite particularly. And we've got the nanothermite unignited in these red-gray chips. This is damning evidence with internally consistent self-corroborating, repeatable experimental data that can be used in a court of law. And it's just like so we have the owner of the of the the the property who

bought the property for ridiculously cheap saying he said pull it for no reason there should be no reason to pull it which is a term for demolition now we have this thermite showing up, which cuts through steel, like hot butter, a knife through butter, and if the dust doesn't have thermite in it, it's not considered world of trade center dust. What are we doing here? At what point do we demand action when people that we put in control of protecting us won't do action?

I don't understand why. It's just unbelievable to me that people out there would still believe that this is the official narrative. So we take a look at the towers. Now the towers themselves, outside of what the architect is saying now after the event, if you take a look at the actual towers, what kind of building are they? Before the the planes at the building, what kind, are these like normal towers? Are these normal skyscrapers? Is there anything special about them that might allow them to be able to take a hit from a plane if they had to?

Well, according to Leslie Robertson, actually his boss, John Skilling, the towers were designed to take a hit from two of the biggest airliners they had, which were 707s, fully loaded with jet fuel, and they said that the biggest, he said the biggest problem would be, the tower would be fine after the hit and the fuel would dump into the building but the building would still be there. That's a quote from the structural engineer. Leslie Robertson subsequently took over structural engineering firm, that one and he's one of the witnesses of molten iron in and I'm talking now pools of molten iron. He said flowing

like a river. So this is among the extraordinary evidence of extreme heat which can't be explained by the official story because jet fuel fires. I'll come back to your structural question in a minute. I got I got on to the structural engineer because this quote is absolutely essential. It's it's the documentation. It's it's the documentation through to the structural engineer, because this quote is absolutely essential. It's the documentation throughout the World Trade Center aftermath of extreme temperatures exceeding 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit, which jet fuel only burns according to its manufacture, 600 degrees in open air. The hottest office fires are maybe 1,200 degrees.

We're talking 2,800 degrees, documented by numerous people. We have photographs in our DVD called 9-11 explosive evidence. Experts speak out. This documents the crab claw excavators picking up material with molten iron pouring out of it. We have molten iron pouring out of the South Tower minutes prior to its collapse. NIST says this is aluminum from the airplane. Well, no, aluminum doesn't glow bright yellow in daylight conditions whatsoever. This is molten iron, and it's not molten steel either, by the way, where it's elemental iron. Well, what did we find from the, from thermite studies?

It's, a thermite is made of molt, excuse me, of iron, of iron, powder and aluminum powder. And when you ignite that, it creates 4,000 degree molten iron. It's the only thing that can explain the presence of elemental iron. The extreme temperatures that are documented, exceeding 2,800 degrees, including molten concrete. In building six, the concrete is molten and wrapping itself around guns and so forth that are now in the police museum in Manhattan. I didn't even know concrete could melt.

So we have all of this extreme example of temperatures completely unaccountable by NIST. So it's not in the report that none of the nanothermite is in the final report by NIST. None of the molten iron microspheres are in the report by NIST, although the US Geological Survey and R.J. Lee, an environmental consulting firm who says these are formed during the event. And none of this, the molten iron meteorites, they call them, They're pulling them up by tons and tons of these fused molten iron and concrete meteorites are pulled up. And they're discussed by the forensic, I mean, the curator architect Bart Vorsanger.

This evidence is all over the place. And yet it's completely omitted by NIST as is the evidence of 156 first responders who are talking about explosions and I'm talking like being hearing explosions seeing explosions being in Explosion blown around in the building seeing flashes of light. This is all documented in their oral histories because they were recorded in October to preserve the record before it became shaped by a collective memory.

Thank God Thomas Forsanger did this, but we didn't know about it till August of 2005, when the New York Court state of appeals forced the city to reveal this information and New York Times actually published it. We find that 156 of these first responders talking about explosions, when most of them document very carefully before the towers collapsed. A train running under my feet, and then the towers collapsed. A train running under my feet, and then the towers are collapsing.

All these explosions, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then I see the tower collapsing. It's very clear in order what's going on with these 156 first responders. It is, and to answer your question, the towers had 47 massive core columns inside around the elevator shafts, which by the way, Ace Elevator had a contract to modernize all the elevators. Nine months prior to 9-11. The largest elevator modernization in history, 85 employees from Aisan elevator today.

This is documented in Elevator World today, and Elevator World and also USA Today. Is that a magazine, Elevator World? Yeah, yeah, and it's a magazine that Ace Elevator themselves, this particular article, what? There's a world, there's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, that's a magazine that is a world of elevators this particular article what there's a world There's a world. There's someone whose life it is is Elevators and there's enough of them that there's a magazine that's dedicated to elevators And there's a billion dollar industry don't knock it. Hey, I'm trying to rock it. I'm gonna get in on it. Um, so okay, so this is some stuff. I've seen. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is this is th. this is this is this is this is a this is a th. this is a billion. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the billion. the the the the the the the the world. the the world. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. knocking it. I'm trying to rock it. I want to get in on it. So, okay, so this is some stuff, I've seen, you know, docks on 9-11. So you bring up this thing.

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Almost. 47 on the inside. All specifically there to want to make sure it, because columns are there to make sure it doesn't flatten on south. And it is ready, it is built to take the impact of two planes, not one plane into each, but two planes into each of the planes, into the east of the towers. Now to weaken these, these columns would take explosives, right? Well didn't they do that before 9-11? Didn't they try to take the World Trade Center down? Well, that was earlier when they tried to, in 9, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in the, the, the, the, to they didn't try to take the World Trade Center well that was earlier yeah it was earlier when they tried to in 93 I think yeah they sent the truck and even that isn't enough to do what this what this building

these two buildings were built to do which was to withstand these attacks so we have these columns we have these columns, we have these outside columns, we got these inside columns, and the biggest way to get it is through explosives. You bring up the wonderful point that our good friends at elevator today, okay, put out an article saying that they'd been done the, they did the biggest renovation of elevators in the history of elevators, okay? And now we hear this story of, and I'm not going to get into too much political stuff that maybe you don't want to talk about, but the whole thing about Israeli art students

and how certain companies were in charge of security, crawl industries, stuff like that. Any thoughts on any of that, sir? Well that's research that has been done. It's valid research. And I encourage people to look at a book called Solving 9-11. Excellent book by Christopher Bolin. There's also a great book by Kevin Ryan called Another 19 Suspects. So he names him.

Oh my God, I looked at up. So, there's a famous picture. There's a certain area of the building that explodes. They say this is where a plane hits it. That's also amazingly the exact same area in which this smiley face was put on the side of the towers. It's a very famous picture of a smiley face. It would take explosives being brought inside to do something like this through your research. Would you say that? Oh sure, yeah. Because you have 90,000 tons of structural steel in each of these towers,

which is three to five times stronger than it needed to be to hold up this building for its life. And yet, from stillness, all of a sudden, there's continuous, smooth, accelerating downward motion without any hesitation, which we'd expect if it were impacting the cold hard steel below. But no, it accelerates straight down through the path of greatest resistance, the thousands of tons of cold hard intact steel. So what, in this case, Building 7 that I'm sitting on the street. But he's talking about the actual towers.

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which leaves that, the residue that we've seen, the molten iron, microsphere is pouring molten iron, but also the unignited residue and the red gray chips. We also have evidence of explosives, though, because what happens here after the first four seconds, we have laterally, freely flying structural steel sections weighing four to eight tons, which are ejected at 80 miles an hour, caught by physicists laterally, and then gravity begins to take over. Look at that. And that's what we're seeing here. These are, who's that? That was Giuliani. We can talk about him later. Yeah, we will. We will. Yeah, because look at these, these are freely flying structural steel sections. It's not a banana peeling, as we're told by some of the people trying to explain the official story.

These are trailed by thick white smoke clouds. Now, why is steel on fire? Steel is not flammable in office fires. So something else must have happened to the ends of these beams, which is described, interestingly enough, by FEMA in their appendix C of their 2002 report, where they say, the ends of the steel beams

are partly evaporated, a quote from the author of this report. There's a hot sulfur corrosion attack on the steel, with silver dollar sized holes in it. How does that happen to the steel, and this is official sources? I mean, this is the FEMA report, where does the sulfur come from? Well, they have no idea. They don't even speculate. But guess what? Sulfur is added to thermite to become thermate, much more effective at cutting through steel. So this is the evidence that has attracted 3,000 architects and engineers to demand a new investigation and has attracted the attention of the evidence that has attracted 3,000 architects and engineers to demand a new investigation

and has attracted the attention of the fire commissioners in the Franklin Square City, which is a town right near New York. I want to get into that. I want to get into that towards the end of this, but I want to get into this, what you're saying here is like, this does of this, but I want to get into this, what you're saying here, is like, this does not happen naturally anywhere in history. So when you see the guy who goes, you know, there's a famous thing with this welder who like was like, it's real simple and he took this steel beam and he made it hot and he showed

that it just bent over, but it's like like that's a thin steel beam. We're talking about the biggest, I mean like 90 tons, 90,000 tons of steel that is meant. There's not enough jet fuel to hit the top and make the bottom collapse. It's just not enough, man. And it's just like, you're yelling something, you're saying stuff to me that I'm like, and why is this still? Yeah. Why are we still talking about this?

Why are we still talking about it? I guess. NIST, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, who Congress tasked with explaining this, these collapses collapses collapses collapses collapses they say, well, even they say, the jet fuel, 90% of it burned up outside the building. The rest of it was gone in just 10 minutes. Jet fuel is just kerosene. They actually recognized this, and they said, these are normal office fires, you know, after 10 minutes.

So normal office fires, bringing down. After 10 minutes, it's regular, it's just a regular fire. Yeah, it's a regular fire after that. And a few broken columns by the airplanes. And how much fuel. And yet they have a symmetrical collapse from all the way down, from the point of jet plane impacts, all the way down. This collapse is fairly symmetrical down the face of the building, the tops of the building's tilt, particularly in the case of the South Tower, but all the way down the building, it's a symmetrical ring seen by in the videos of explosions, we show in detail in our in our DVD.

That makes no sense given the asymmetry of what's going on up above. Let's say we're in bazaarro dimension, sir. We're in a bazaarro dimension and kerosene was able to work. What size plane would have, carrying, what amount of kerosene would have to hit this thing to make what they say happen, happen? There's no way it's just a plane. It would have to be a jumbo, a plane we'd never see too big to even fly? Would you say that? I mean, how much kerosene would have to be thrown at this building for it to do what they say happened? I'd be speculating, but I think you could dump a million gallons of carcin' into this building,

set it on fire and it still wouldn't burn. The building is fireproofed. It's designed to have two and three hour fire protection, the columns and beams in the building. And that's a lot more than the 20 minutes or so of fire that can exist in an office building. You know, that's all the desks and chairs there are, kerosene aside, these, because that was gone, right? So why speculate about that after 10 minutes, it's gone?

We, you only have enough fuel in an office building to burn 20 or 30 minutes, according to NIST even. And yet, they say these fires were burning for hours and hours, right? And, but the, the videos show that they were virtually out at the time of the collapse. With these thick, thick, thick, thick, black black black black black black black, thick, thick, thick, thick, thick, thick, thick, thi thixxxxx, thiks, thiaxxxxxxxxxxxxxauiauiaugnetsetsetsets, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, after after after after after after after after after after after after thiaks, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, toa, toa, toa, toa, thia, toa show that they were virtually out at the time of the collapse, with these thick black smoke indicating oxygen starved fires. In the case of building seven, that fire was, the fires were few, small and scattered, and the videos proved that that fire was out on the floor

where NIST claimed there was an initiation of collapse. That fire was out an hour before the collapse of the building, so it couldn't have been responsible for the thermal expansion, which NIST says is the new phenomena that caused this building to collapse. Well, it couldn't have been thermally expanding if the fires were out over an hour before. So that's just the beginning of the problems for NIST. Last week, we, this week, we released the Alaska study,

which is a four-year $300,000 study by a major university that has spent a lot of time examining the NIST assumptions on the one hand and the reality on the other. They've completely undermined most of NIST's assumptions and basically prove NIST report a fraud because even with those false assumptions, which they're computer modeling, which is open by the way, it's not hidden from us. They don't, they didn't say we can't release our input data because it would jeopardize public safety. No, it's an open architecture. So they actually prove using this zone assumptions that the building never could have come down by fire. Well, they say how do we get this building assumptions that the building never could have come down by fire.

Well, they say, how do we get this building to fail, building seven, and the way it looked in the video? Well, they start taking out more and more columns and it's still not failing. And they take out about eight or nine key columns, where NIST says they were taken out, and the building tips over, well in their computer model. Well, in the video it goes straight down,

uniformly, symmetrically, free fall acceleration. What do we have to do to our model to get that to happen? They had to to take out 650 columns virtually all at once to get this building to fall exactly like it did in the video. Mr. Gage, where is the rubble? Where did the rubble go? We're talking a, the two of the biggest buildings in New York? City? To so big? to so big? to that that that that to happen? That's that that to happen to happen? that that that that to happen that to happen to happen that to to that to happen that to happen to that to happen to happen that to happen that that to happen that that to happen that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to happen to happen to happen to happen that that to that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to happen to to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen to happen? to happen? to happen to happen? to happen to happen? to to happen that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to be that too. that to to to the biggest buildings in New York City to so big that it was part of the skyline when you drew the skyline of New York City. And here it is, we have free flow, we see the dust, we see what you say if it's not, if there's no thermite in the dust, it's not part, where are the columns? Where is the concrete? Where the, there should be blocks of concrete everywhere

and all we see is a couple pictures with some weird kind of like a little bit of gravel. We see this, according to the information you gave me which is I believe 90 not 100% accurate this weird cut in the in in this column oh I like again knife and buttercut but I don't see where the ground where the where the debris is where is the rest of this building after it collapses well let's talk about this This is an absolutely key component, Sam. You've got 100,000 tons of structural steel in each of these buildings. Guess what?

Most all of that, particularly, is delivered, as we saw, we talked about, delivered outside the footprint of the building up to 600 feet away, destroying the winter gardens in a 1,400 foot diameter around each of these towers. There's only a two-story pile of core columns and twisted metal at the base of these towards. In a gravitational collapse, we would expect the steel. We'll get to the concrete in a second. To be piled up, manged, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, the steel, we'll get to the concrete in a second, to be piled up, mangled certainly, but no, it's individually severed, one beam from another column, all severed and sent in every direction, broken up ready for loading and shipment, just like they

do in controlled demolitions. So, by the way, if 100,000 tons of steel is delivered outside the footprint, way outside the way, if a hundred thousand tons of steel is delivered outside the footprint, way outside the footprint, what's crushing the building? Well that's a third of the weight of the building. It's not the steel. So what about the concrete? You mentioned, this concrete, four and eight-inch-thick slabs. Each of them are an acre in size. 90,000 tons of concrete in each of the footprint?. the footprint?. the footprint?.. We the footprint?. We the footprint. We the footprint? We the footprint. We the footprint. We the footprint? We the footprint. We the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the, the, the, the, the, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the footprint, the eight inch thick slabs, each of them are an acre in size.

90,000 tons of concrete in each of these buildings. Oh my God. We'd expect to see 110 stacked up, broken up at the bottom. Like you said, where is it? Well, you look at the, we don't see 50, we don't see 10, we don't see one floor. We don't see one floor. up at the bottom. They are pulverized in mid-air to a fine powder, 100 microns average in size, and drifting from river to river across lower Manhattan and a blanket three inches thick. That's where the concrete is. So if the concrete is

outside the footprint of the building all across lower Manhattan, what crushed the building? Not the steel, not the concrete. That's most of the weight of this building, by the way. So there's nothing left to crush the building at all. I, Gary, yeah. So it's not going down, it's going out. And then it's evaporating. Or the word you use better, uh, pulverizing.

It's out. Where, what, pulverize this? See, I'm not going to go too deep into that. Like, we've talked about the JFK assassination. This is a different conspiracy, but we had a gentleman on talking about it and how this date, this one day, this one event is so big that it couldn't, it had to be pulled off. There could be no mistakes. So it wasn't just one event that went down in terms of making that thing happen. It was multiple scenarios, multiple people, positioned in right places.

So, can we look at these buildings and go, okay, you need explosives, you need a plane, you need, and maybe something else. That causes this Concrete and steel to pulverize The on top of it not just one thing not just two things but maybe three four things that went on it one time Yeah, I think there is a whole bunch of things one of the things we're aware of is at the point of jet plane impacts in the towers, we have a fireproofing retrofit going on in each of the towers, five floors below and five floors above the point of jet plane impacts. Very interesting timing the year before 9-11.

And this is documented by Kevin Ryan on his blog, Dig Within, and it's fascinating. And could they have been applying this nanothermite to the bottom of these concrete slabs? Is that engineered explosively enough to pulverize that concrete and everything below those concrete slabs as well. Perhaps, you know, we don't have the level of research available on this material yet to make that determination. But something pulverized, in fact vaporized 1,100 people whom we have no trace of, not one. I mean, we only have 300 whole bodies.

6,000 bodies were, 6,000 people, there's, excuse me, there's 6,000 body parts small enough to fit into test tubes. And one person was blown into 200 pieces themselves. And still, 1,100 people were vaporized. Now how does that happen in a gravitational collapse? I mean like I I mean you're talking to a show which I and you know that believes in direct energy weapons and I don't know if that's something that falls under your expertise.

But again, going into what I'm talking about, like, this is one shot and they gotta hit it. And you know, we've talked about stuff like in these California fires, how metal, which burns at 1,500 degrees, I mean, fire, forest fires that burn at 1,500 degrees. We're melting metal that burns at 2,500 degrees. And we're talking old school metal, like built back in the day, not millennium metal, which gets its feelings hurts and just withers, you know. We're talking like, old man metal, you know.

I don't want to put words in your mouth or say something you want to. Is that at all a possibility, Mr. Gage? Oh, sure. I think there are plenty of forms of directed energy weapons that occur out there. I don't see evidence for their use in the Twin Towers. So, uh, that's fine. That's fine. I'm, I mean, I'll just tell you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tell you. tell you. to tell you. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. thoooooooooooooooo. th. th. that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, I'll just tell you, we have a four-page FAQ on this subject on our website, AE 911 Truth.org, dealing with the claims of Judy Wood, for instance, who claims that the steel was dustified. Well, A, if the steel was dustified. Well, A, if the steel were dustified,

you'd see steel dust in the dust, which was very well examined by the US geological survey. They don't find steel dust in the dust. They find previously molten iron microspheres, which is the evidence of thermite. So that's very clear. Judy what in her book, by the way denies that this was an explosive that that that that thuuuuu, th th th th th th th thus thus th, for th, for thus thus thus thus thus thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus, for thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus, for thus, for th, for th, for th, for th, for thus, for th, for thus for thus for thus for thus for thus for thus for thus for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for instance, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, fore, for the, for the, for the, for ththe evidence of thermite. So that's very clear. Judy Wood in her book, by the way, denies that this was an explosive event. Look around page 126. She denies that this was nanothermite, which we have forensic evidence very clearly for

indisputable forensic evidence. And she denies that this was a hot event. As you say, temperatures capable of melting steel at 2,800 degrees. She says this is a cold event. So when, you know, somebody comes along and makes, denies the most fundamental scientific forensic evidence that we have, and on top of that, makes a claim for which she really provides no evidence whatsoever just some strange phenomena which I tend to agree with there are some strange phenomena so I'm not saying energy weapons didn't exist it's just that the strange

phenomena is not evidence of the energy weapons that she's claiming I have reasons to be suspect is all I'm saying. Respect to that and honestly that I'm totally okay with that. So, hey, Aaron, do we have to go right now or can I just ask one more? What? We're good. Okay, so you brought up Rudy Giuliani earlier. I know you have to get to a meeting very soon.

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I'll leave it to them to explain how that happened. But he was aware of the collapse of the building before it happened. He was told the building was going to collapse. He moved his whole operation away from the towers or near the towers to a further point away because of that knowledge which he never conveyed to the firefighters. So that's what I'll say about Rudy Giuliani. So let's get into this final f f f f f f f f f f f f. the the the fire. the fire. the fire. the fire. the fire. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to th. to th. th. thi. He. He's th. to th. th. th. th. th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He he th, he th, he th, he th, he he th, he he he he he he he he he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. to. th. th. th. th. He's th. He's Giuliani. So let's get into this final part. We now have these firefighters, you were bringing up earlier, I just wanted to, you know, finish off with that. You brought up earlier, we have this fire department, universally, unanimously, I had a stroke halfway through that, deciding to open the investigation. Q, tell us a little bit about that, deciding to open the investigation. Q, tell us a little bit about that and how it helps you and what you're trying to do.

Yes, the Hulsey study, which we talked about is one component. And here's a major university, completely pulling the rug out from under Nist as we talked about. That's a huge cannonball now for us in the 9-11 Truth Movement to fire against the wool of denial out there. As we talked about, it's substantial still 18 years after 9-11. We also have five fire commissioners who have voted unanimously to demand a new investigation based on the evidence that we've been talking about today. We've been working with them.

We're bringing them down to Washington, D.C. here, where I am now, on September 11th, in a major press conference at the National Press Club at 10 o'clock eastern time. That will be live streamed on our website at AE 9-11 Truth.org. And this firefighter, these firefighters and commissioners are all about waking up the entire state of New York. They're going to bring me to speak to the National Association of Fire, firefighters or fire districts. Association of Fire Fighters or Fire Districts. And that's going to be one heck of an opportunity

for us in the 9-11 truthmum to address them all at once. The president is in favor of such an address. This is an extraordinary opportunity. So, stand by and... Does it upset you, sir? So stand by and... Does it upset you sir so stand by and does it upset you when you see that our president who is so vocal on 9-11 continue to sell arms to Saudi Arabia does that make you a little nervous yeah I'm not sure well why president

true to some of the things he does and some of the things he does. And some of the things I like, some of the things I don't like. At 8 9-11 Truth, we're waiting for him to talk about what he talked about on 9-11, which was that there were explosions in those buildings. And he backed off from that, and we've got to get him to open up a real investigation. How do we do that? I don't know. He's got all kinds of pressures from all kinds of people. And so I'm just crossing my fingers with regard to the president.

So my final question is, it's a statement with a question. I'm going to answer the ask question, then finish with a statement. Do you get any pushback of the threatening kind? I haven't yet. Nobody's called me, threatened me, I haven't gotten any shots. Nobody's called me and offered me money either. I think I'm kind of disappointed. I mean, it's like, aren't we, you know, enough of a thorn in your side to provoke some kind of harassment or intimidation? Straight cast, I'm, it's okay, I don't need it, but it's disappointing. I respect that. I think what you're doing is incredibly

important. I think what you're doing is incredibly important. I think what you're doing is incredibly brave. And I wish there were more patriots. Because all we ever say is question everything. It doesn't hurt. It's free. Now I know you and what you've done, Mr. Gage, obviously, it costs time and time costs money and flying around and putting together these packages, creating this amazing website. It's free. Now, I know you and what you can make donations. It's money. You. th. this. th. th. th. th. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, I th, I th, I'm th, I th, I th, I th, I th. th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi you cost time and time costs money and flying around and putting together these packages creating this amazing website all costs money you can make donations on your website which is again a an e 911 truth.org okay yeah it's a a E 911 truth.org I can't thank you enough for not only doing what you're doing, but reaching out to come on our little podcast and spending time with us. And I don't know if you ever make it out to Los Angeles or do any events here. I would love to either have you in studio, have a conversation or at least be able to go to your event and meet you and thank you for what you're doing because to me, this is with Pearl Harbor. It's probably the darkest day in this country's history, depending on who you are. I'm sure the Native Americans would have a little disagreement.

But there are, this is one of the darkest and I believe at the highest levels, this is Sam talking, not Mr. Gage talking, that the highest levels of our government, both on federal and state New York, knew something were going on. This is my statement, and they allowed to proceed if they did know, not only did they know, but they probably participated in it. And I think Americans need to wake up and questioning authority is not a bad thing. You're not disrespecting people when you ask for the truth. And if they've done nothing wrong, they shouldn't be afraid of the truth. And you, my friend, I completely agree. Are a wonderful person, and I appreciate you hearing my crew jokes and me screaming at you while you sit quietly in a room that looks like it's used for

some kind of like murder mystery dinner party. And you're a wonderful person and again if you're in Los Angeles please come by and we'll do it again. And if there's ever any new break in the case that you'd like to get people, you have an open door to come on and let people know. Oh, you bet. And by the way, Sam, your listeners might want to see a two-hour presentation to two million people on September 11th with the George Noray show, Coast to Coast AM Radio, 10 PM Pacific Time on September 11th with the George Norrie show, Coast to Coast AM Radio,

10 p.m. Pacific time on September 11th. So we'll be on. So folks may want to join there too. I would like for you, Richard, to send me an email with all the information, both when you and the firefighters are presenting, or if this is the different event you brought up, that information as well and we will tweet it and put it on our Instagram so all of our friends will know. So one more time before we say goodbye, please tell them the firefighting event and the event you just told,

unless those are two different things. I mean, let's say the same thing. Please explain what you'd like them to check out? Yes, well first of all our website has all the details it's AE 911 truth.org and you can see the schedule there you can tune into the live stream of our National Press Club conference here in Washington Eastie the morning of September 11th at 10 a. that will be live streamed on our website so be sure to join us there and check out all the morning of September 11th at 10 a.m. That will be live streamed on our website. So be sure to join us there and check out all the details of all these events who are doing in Washington, D.C. too.

You're a gentleman, you're a G amongst G's. I appreciate what you're doing. Just know everybody listening to shows is appreciative of the hard work and dedication you have to be, you know, to your country. And this is patriotic. This is a patriotic as it gets. To question authority in our democracy, which we are fighting to hold on to right now, this is one of the greatest acts of patriotism you can, to question the highest authorities regardless of the consequence. So thank you, sir, for what you're doing. Please be safe in Washington, D.C.

We will be checking out everything you're doing on September 11th. I will be watching your website over watching anything on Fox, MSNBC or CNN. I need the truth. I need the good truth, the clean truth, and I will go to you guys. Thank you again, sir. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks, Sam, so much, and we'll see you again in Los Angeles. Can't wait, can't wait, guys are great. Check it out.

Go check out their website. See you guys in San Francisco. See you guys in New York. See you guys in Austin. See you in the truth. Happy 9-11 everybody. Today's the day, you know, hopefully we popped a couple minds like champagne bottles. Aaron, hold on. It's been a while. It's been a while. I think it's time. One more time. One more time. One more time. Yeah, it's been a couple apples, those crazy ones without his opinion. It's been way too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the today's. tooe. to to to to to. to. to, hold on. Yeah, what- It's been a couple of apples, those crazy ones without his opinion.

It's been way too long, way too, oh come on man, look how messy my fucking- God, where's it? Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. Wake up, Aaron, you gotta be death, mute or retarded! Hey, Aaron, Aaron? Aaron, thouts. Retarded! Hey, A, A, Ron! Aaron! Aaron! Thoughts? Uh, wow, I mean, that was very interesting, and I'm always on the side of science. Um, vaccines work.

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