Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #250: S3X Cults with Jay Dyer and Hung Yung Terrarist

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

This episode we welcome Occult Author Jay Dyer and Rapper/Comedian and former and possible future cult member Hung Yung Terrarist to discuss the world of Cults. Check out Jay Dyer's website: https://...jaysanalysis.com Check his twitter: twitter.com/Jay_D007 Check out Hung Hung Terrarist's website: https://www.hungyungterrarist.com Her twitter: twitter.com/iamhungyung Please check out.... My youtube.com Youtube.com/SamTripoli Patreon: Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Tshirts: TinFoilHattshirts.com Cameo.com www.cameo.com/samtripoli Thank you to our sponsors: Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code TINFOILHAT at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code TINFOILHAT Blue Chew; Right now, we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Visit BlueChew.com and get your first shipment FREE when use our special promo code HAT -- Just pay $5 shipping. Again, that’s B - L - U - E - CHEW dot com, promo code TinFoil to try it FREE. BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. Blinkist: With Blinkist, you get unlimited access to read or listen to a massive library of condensed non-fiction books -- all the books you want and all for one low price by using the promo code "HAT!" Go to Blinkist.com/Hat Absolute Xtracts: Please go to ABX.org and use the promo code "Chaos" for 20% off of all you CBD, Flower and Vap purchases! We have big shows coming please check them dates out: Nov 15th: Vegas Backstage Bar and Billiards Nov 22nd-25th: La Jolla Comedy Store Dec 20th- Portland The Mississippi

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Starting point is 00:05:35 today's gonna be a great episode. I'm very excited about it. It's something I've been wanting to do. We try to do an episode on cults last time, but we were lucky enough to meet our good friends at cultish who tried to convert us to Christianity. That wasn't quite what we wanted to do, but you know, we had a great talk anyways. Joining us in studio, she's a very funny comic, a good friend of mine. She has a rap, a good friend of mine, she has a rap album, a hip-hop album coming out. If you call a rap, that's a sign you're old, right?
Starting point is 00:06:10 If you go, it's a nice rap out, it's a hip-hop album, right? It's called Hung, Lowe. No? Hung, young, terrace. Please welcome Tokyo Punch everybody. That's great. Thank you so much for having me. You're on fire today.
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Starting point is 00:06:38 He's written many books. He's a crowd favorite. Every time we're going to do some some shows we always get, hey, bring him back, bring back Jay. Well, we're glad to have him back. He's going to tell us a little bit about his new books that are coming out. Please welcome Jay-Dyer, everybody. How are you, but. doing great, man. Thanks for letting me come back. Last time I was with you in studio, we had a lot of fun with, what was her name, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, was their, was their, what, was their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, their, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. toldld, told, to told, to to to to to to to to to name, Allison Weber, I think? We were joking about Hollywood cults back then. Yeah, and it just seems like more and more like your, your proven to be correct. More, it was like, yeah, Epstein, Vatican,
Starting point is 00:07:15 all this stuff, Nexium coming out in the last two years, it's just a total vindication of everything. And, uh, but still, it's like, does anyone care what Disney's doing? I mean, it's like, Disney's like, we're putting out our own Netflix. Everyone's like, yay, they're like, put their, they're like, yeah, whatever. It's, it's, it's Disney plus. It's gonna be fun. I can watch superheroes, right? Right, it's just like, does anybody care that ABC? They killed the story? Right, it, th. It, th, th, th, th, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, th, and it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi's like, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th is, th is, th is, th is, th, th is, th, th, th, th, th is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, th is, th is, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi's like, like, like, thi's like, thi's, thi ABC they killed this story and welcome back. We killed this story. They killed the story and it turns out the guy to kill the story was on Epstein's
Starting point is 00:07:52 plane. Exactly. Nobody cares. Yeah I mean this goes back to the origins of Disney. I mean people don't know that Disney was founded by the CIA. The CIA helped him get that land. Well it's also that like he is he's dark arts. I mean like I'm try. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the story. I'm the the the try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm to. I'm to. I'm the. I'm the to. I'm the. I'm the. I'm try. founded by the CIA. The CIA helped him get that land. Well, it's also that like he is, he's dark arts. I mean like, I'm trying to get, I just sent Johnny a conspiracy's now, we did with a good friend of mine, Kevin Blatt. And we have to edit out this. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:08:19 They rejected the video based on just this little bit of, usually they'll be like, oh copyright, you know you're not in trouble, but where, you know, if you make any money it goes to this part, they didn't even do that. They're like, nope, nope, can't put up this video. And it was about, allegedly, Kevin knows a man who has a tape of Walt Disney allegedly doing shady stuff with children. So it's on video. You know, he has, he said there's a video of JFK and RFK tag teaming Marilyn Monroe, you know, back in the day, good for them, good for them.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And, but supposedly this is out. So the origins of this whole thing is shadyness. Like I've always said that like, you know, I'm going to be honest with, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's on the comedy, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the comedy, it's on, it's on the comedy, it's on the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, it's the comedy, I the comedy of this whole thing is shading. It's like I've always said that like, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you, I got in the comedy, why? Because one, it's the only thing I could do, and two, I got women thanks to comedy. It's like being funny, get you chicks. So it's like, why are you joining,
Starting point is 00:09:18 why are you, excuse me, why are you doing children's entertainment? Like what are you, who's gonna, you know, I'd like to, I'd like to make stuff that, I can understand some people wanna make it money, but I think a lot of it has to do about who you into and like all that stuff, you know? I mean like, I mean, we've seen whether it's adult swim, Disney, all these like pedophiles just littering this this genre of children's entertainment. Yeah, I'm not really asking questions.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I'm just reading together. So Tokyo, tell us a little bit about you. Real quick, guys, where can they find all you real quick? All your your social media. You can find me at I am hung young H-ung-yng-G, Y-U-N-G on Instagram and Twitter. Okay. Or you can hit Hung Young Terrorist. Terrorist is my first real name, T-E-R-R-A, R-I-S-T.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't think ISIS should have a monopoly on terrorism. Okay, all right. And Jay, where can they find you? Yeah, I'm on YouTube. I'm Jay- Dyer, D-Y-E-R, and I'm Jay Dyer on Twitter as well. And Jay's analysis is the website. Do you have any personal appearances coming up anywhere where our fans could come see you? Well, I will be doing a book signing at a coffee shop here in St. Augustine. So that'll be this Saturday November 16th at DOS coffee DOS. Love it, love it. Yeah, look up there. Thank you Johnny. And so
Starting point is 00:10:53 where do you, where's the story begin to Tokyo? Where does it begin? Where do you, what's your earliest memories of being a part of a cult? You were in a cult? Yeah, I was super in a cult? Um, It's a great documentary on it on Netflix called Holy Hell. Did you see that with the Speedo, the guy in Spido? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's a wild, that was, that's a wild scene. What a fucking Hottie, I mean? We were all in love with that boy. He was actually in Rosemary's baby. He's the extra. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. the the the the th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.. Yeah.. Yeah.. Yeah.... Yeah.. Yeah....... Yeah............... Yeah..................................................................................................... He was actually in Rosemary's Baby. He's the extra that you like, the camera lingers on for a moment. Little boy from Venezuela, Hottie, nice package, never saw it in person. But you know, he's always wearing speedos so we could kind of tell. Why didn't you see it in person? Because I wasn't a man and you know, he was like had an asshole just like all those guys, so I don't...
Starting point is 00:11:45 Thank you for your honesty. That was why I was really most upset, was like, why, what was wrong with my asshole? Well, it wasn't connected to balls, that's the problem. But you could believe in yourself. So how did you come to get into this cult? Where does it start? So my older sister, my older half sister, she was 14 years older than me at the time. She was 20 and I was like six years old when she was pulled into the cult, same mom,
Starting point is 00:12:13 different dad, by her best friend Sophia, that gorgeous girl with the black hair in the thing that dances and now she's off in India with a guru. But so she was sort of grooming me for it. I was initiated when I was like told 14 14 14 14 14 14 to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go 14 to go 14 to go to go 14 to go 14 to go 14 to go 14 to go 14 to go 14 14 to go 14 14 14 14 to go 14 to go 14 14 14 to go to go 14 toe.a.a. 14 toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toen toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. 14 toe. 14 to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. 14. 14. toe. toe. toe. their their their their their their 14 years. their their toe. 14 years.14.14. toe.14. toen years. 14 years. it. I was initiated when I was like 14 over the phone. I was like told to go to Paramahonta's Shrine, which is pretty cool. I was meditating to Enya when I was 10. Right around the same time I was taking videos of my sister and zooming in and out on her nipple, which my mom wasn't fond of. She was a stripper. So your mother was a stripper? Oh, my big sister was.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Your big sister, how many sisters do you have? I have two, one older, one younger. And were they both involved in this cult? No, I did not bring my little sister into it. I kind of wanted something for, you know, myself I felt a little bit protective and also we weren't supposed to tell anybody about it so we didn't tell my parents about it and then they started in LA but then you know cult awareness found out and they kind of dispersed and re-coagulated in Austin and then of course after this documentary came out the police were after him and he went he's now he's in Oahu where you know sometimes I think about giving up on life and going back there because you th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th the th th th th to th to th to to to th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. they're thi. thi. the thi. thi. the the the th. the the th. the th. th. th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I think about giving up on life and going back there because you know what being brainwashed is fucking great. Well you don't have to think, you don't have to think.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Exactly. Do you know anything about this cult? Jay have you had heard anything about this particular cult? Yeah, I'm familiar with this documentary and it kind of blew me away. I think that we see right away a lot of the patterns that you'll find in a lot of other cults. And the last couple years, my research into cults has really surprised me about how scientific it is. And a lot of these cults are connected to intelligence agencies. I'm not saying that one necessarily was, but a lot of them are. And we've seen this with the Nexium and this kind of stuff. We've seen it with other cult in the father, if you're familiar with like the father Yode cult, or what came out about
Starting point is 00:14:05 the O-Show, did you watch the O-Show documentary, Wild Wild Country? Oh, yes, yes. So there was intelligence involved with that? Well, there's two people that seemed to have a pretty key node in that control structure that most likely were. I mean, it could have just been black market stuff with people running drugs and weapons. I mean, they were doing that. But you've got these Wall Street lawyers to have these really key positions in the Osho cult,
Starting point is 00:14:31 which I think is suspicious. So I don't have direct proof of that, but I think that there's a lot of suspicious. And then it was the largest surveillance, the largest, you surveillance, you, you, you, you, you, the largest, the largest, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to., to.o, too, too.o.e.e.e.e.e.e. too. too. too. too. the. to. the. the, the, the US, an illegal surveillance, blackmail thing in the US and in US history actually. So a lot of these techniques of the cult are actually borrowed from the techniques of old-time intelligence operations and they'll scientifically with precision do it. There was a whole theory that the Jones cult, Jones Town, down in Latin America, was very very much almost an experiment it done by intelligence agencies and obviously it was done to you know it was in my
Starting point is 00:15:15 opinion was part of that Marilyn Manson cult movement that was used to you know discredit the hippie movement to scare people from hippies. They thought all your kids, your daughter, could in fact join a cult and then they're going to be taken away and you won't be able to talk to them and you know, and then with all the murders and then the mass suicides. And then the killing oven of a US politician down there purposefully, as the CIA agent is in the picture, then, then, then, then, thiiiiiiiii, then, then, thi thi then, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, thi purposefully as the CIA agent is in the picture then slowly walks away and then the gunman come and shoot him down. All of this is done to be propaganda, use as propaganda and to basically scare people. Yeah, I think you nailed it. I mean I've read what you're talking about the Jim Jones cult. I think that it was a CIA at least te, the teasks. Like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they want they want they want they want they they their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. their th. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tell. the. the. mean, I've read what you're talking about the Jim Jones cult.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I think that it was a CIA at least test. Like they wanted to see what would happen when we put people in these confined environments, we don't, we do all these different kinds of deprivation, drugs. So there's a pattern to all these things. I think that with a the finders that just came out. We were talking about the finders for the last three years and a lot of interviews that I did and that comes out, oh, here we go, another sex called trafficking.
Starting point is 00:16:31 All vindicated, all the way down to the ritual abuse. Like that was something that the midst of these declassified documents, oh yeah there are tunnels underneath and oh it just happens to be ritual abuse, all vindicated but the mainstream media played their key role just like in all these other instances like you talking about earlier with killing these stories. Yeah, I mean we're seeing with Epstein right now, ABC destroyed the shot down the video, I mean of the story that basically broke would have broken everything down with connections to Clinton during
Starting point is 00:17:12 the 2016 election and the guy who killed it later on was found to have been on the on many flights going to Epstein Island you know know, we were having a big conversation last night about, you know, Chelsea Handler's been on those flights. We see CH on there. She had dinner with Epstein multiple times after his conviction. You know, 18 months after she's seen in New York having dinner with him multiple times. And, you know, it's just like, and here we are. She's part of this movement to, you know, uh, you, you, you, you, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the th, th. th. th. th. the th. thi, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to-celc. to-s, the the. the the. the the the the, the the, the multiple times. And, you know, it's just like, and here we are. She's part of this movement to, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:50 fan the flames of racism, political correctness, men are the worst, me too. All these siops that are used to get us all to fight with each other. She's hands on it. I mean, dude, she has one of the few shows ever pulled off of Netflix because I feel like they knew a little bit more was going on. And Chelsea, if you have a problem with it, I'm your Huckleberry. Come get me. You know it and I know it. We all know it's true as you sit there and do your virtual signaling. And it's, let me tell you, knives are out, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the is the are the are the are theeeeeeeeeat theeeeeeeeeeeeeat theeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. virtual signaling and it's let me tell you, you know, knives are out, sunshine. Knifes are out. How you treat people. I know Chelsea, what you did on your show with Lonnie Love and the pictures of guerrillas. I know all that stuff, all the pictures of dressing your midget buddy
Starting point is 00:18:40 up as a Nazi, all the crazy stuff you did with having the Asian staff walk around and commodos why the white writers did funny Kung Fu flick Asian things. We all know all that. We all know that. And I got in a discussion with some people about political correctness being a weapon, but it going back to the cult stuff, this is all stuff to get us not to pay attention what's really going on, right? Which is satanic pedophilia at the highest levels. And it's just about power and just abuse. And we'll get into what you went through. I mean, I'm sorry you didn't get to hit it with the cult leader, because I'm sure
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Starting point is 00:20:14 I personally think Bill Clinton is the Andy Dick of the White House, right? He just wants to hit holes and ask questions later. How dare you? How dare you, Sam? Him and Hillary are just basically, you know, what's his face? The fresh prince, Will Smith, and Jada Pickett. They're both gay and they're in a relationship together
Starting point is 00:20:39 so that nobody questions that stuff. And we see it over and over and over again. So your sister joins a cult first. Yes, she kind of got pulled into it because our mom was a lot of people in the cult. They don't have great relationships with their parents. They have sort of abusive relationships so they, so they get, you know, this guy was our sort of father figure. He was like both parents and that's something that you talk about and did he know your parents? No well my mom is a personal injury attorney and so they for sure did not
Starting point is 00:21:11 want my parents to know anything about this thing so I was like I was like I couldn't say anything like I literally I literally went to Texas being from LA and everybody in the focke t the fuck are you going to Texas? Are you in Texas? I don't know where you are. But anyway, Jason, uh, how are you in? I'm in Florida. Oh, okay. You have a, you have a southern accent,
Starting point is 00:21:32 so that's why I, but anyway, yeah, I just, everybody, you know, you can imagine. Dude I got to be like growing up in LA as a child has to be the most insane shit ever. It was fucking crazy. I mean like I grew up in upstate New York we had nothing to do. We drink wine coolers in the forest and hope we didn't get eaten by animals. That's the most excitement we had. like in LA it's like there's a million events going on and on top of that there's some super creepers.. and not. and not. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. that. that. that. the that. the most the most that. the most. the most the most. the most. the most. the most. the the's like there's a million events going on and on top of that there's some super creepers and not that upstate New York doesn't have super creepers because we had our own sex cult but I just feel like this is like a port for like dangerous especially being a young girl
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah, I mean there's homeless people. But it's dangerous you walking down the street I get creeped out I can't imagine being a girl walking down the street to go get chips or something. Well, I was really sheltered. I mean, I grew up in an upper middle class house, so I wasn't really like exposed to all that stuff. But I will say like just the mirage of Los Angeles where like it's you know the epicenter of television and this and that so that was kind of strange, I th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to be, thi. I'm, to be, to, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I'm, I'm, I'm, the the. I'm, the the they. I'm, the the thr. I'm, theea. I'm thr. I thr. I toea. I toea. I toea. I the. I was kind of strange I think but I was really sheltered I mean I feel like I'm just now assimilating back into society so I mean I don't know so where does so you're a teenager out here your sister's stripping right does your mom know your sister stripping
Starting point is 00:22:59 she told her but she she hasn't done that for a very long time. Right, we're not judging. I mean, we've all done shady stuff when we were kids. I mean, who's the judge? Yeah, but yeah, my mom knew about that. Yeah, but my mom didn't really know about the cult. I actually left a year early before it found, before everybody came that you know this was happening I just got bored because I had been in it for like eight years I had been in it college what year did how old are you when you join the
Starting point is 00:23:31 cult I was like 14 when I was initiated and your sisters are already in the cult she's already in the call and she's recruiting you in recruiting me I mean I was dying I was dying to be in the, I was dying to be in it. Why, what, what was about the cult that you were just so dying to be a part of a cult? Okay, so this is how fucking dumb I was. I, you know most kids they believe in Santa Claus up until a certain age. I literally thought I was going to thea. to be a today, I'm, the, the, the, the, th. th. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, th. th. th. the, the, the, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what the, what was, what was, what that, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was about the the the the the th. What was about th. What was about th. What was about, what was about, what was about, what was about, what was about, what their, what th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what was, what the the the thethis reality. I thought if I meditated hard enough, I was going to get that fucking magical Krishna power and straight up. At 14 you thought that? Well I read, you know, I read autobiography of the yogi. Yeah. You know, you know, I mean, there's quite a few stories in there, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, later I did acid and I fucking understood certain things, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, as a child, I really wanted to be in another place. So, you know, I'd meditate and I'd connect to my third eye, and, you know, I'd feel like
Starting point is 00:24:28 what we call Shakti, okay, and it would get, I would get fucking high. I didn't even try weed until I was like 25. Yeah. So, you know, but, I mean, yeah, I just, yeah, I mean, I was really thinking that I could, I gave up everything. I didn't even think anything was necessary. I didn't think a career was necessary. I literally, I studied classical guitar. I mean, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. At 14 though, like who's, I just like, I don't think anyone's thinking about a career. Well, I mean, I look up to these people that don't decide not to college and pursue their career. I feel like, wow, they really know how important it is to be young and go after what,
Starting point is 00:25:05 you know, what you want to do when you figure it out. I thought none of this shit mattered. I was, I was, I was getting straight A's as if shit mattered. You know what I'm saying? But you know, I, thrown, I tel them about their parents. wa was was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. very very close but you know I I didn't tell them about any any of this stuff like my dad even feels guilty to this day about it it's like I didn't tell you this like you know how are you to know there is a there's a story about a
Starting point is 00:25:31 you know about this young girl who's being sex traffic but she would like get picked up by her captors from her house go get turned out then come back and go home, and someone outside would think, like, dude, that's, why wouldn't you say anything? But you couldn't say anything, or you just didn't want to say anything? Or you were afraid to say something? Well, I was afraid because I wanted to do it, and I thought if they knew about it,
Starting point is 00:25:58 then I wouldn't be able to be in the cold. I wanted to be in it. By the end, I was very bored. It was a lot of older women that had not really gotten what they wanted in life. And so that was their sort of plan B. It wasn't like, you know, when I first joined it was like a lot of like young, gorgeous people which was very exciting for me. It was like we were of slow-moving targets to be honest and Austin. How old, how long were you in the cult for? I was in it for eight years. I was out when I was 23 and I had taken a year off of college to work at an ad agency and
Starting point is 00:26:36 decided I fucking hated that. So I was in it for long enough to get bored out of my mind and then a year after I left I left is started talking about okay he's fucking these male disciples like clockwork I mean and later I found out you know during the cleansing where you know you know you know pay 50 dollars to go and talk to the master and you'd close your eyes like that he was like watching VHS porn tapes while you were sitting there like getting your cleansing you know what I mean so thi th-I the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th th th th th th. th. the the- I the that that the- I the the the the the their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th is the I the the the the to to to to to theeeeeeeeeeeeat toeeeeeeeate. they. th. theeeeeeeeate. they hearing like tapes in and out of the VHS and like later, you know, when it came out on the call, I was like, oh, was he fucking watching porn? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oh my god, and back then it was like, it was like this giant encyclopedia size porno and it would be like, thrown. Like dude, there's nothing about porn, the porn, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, like, like, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, th, thin, thin, tha, tha, tha, like, tha, like, like, like, tha, like, like, tha, like, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha had to rewind it. And then it would start, it was like, it was the least, like dude, there's nothing about porn back then that was hidden. Everything you did, it was like meant to be loud so everybody knew. Especially when you went down to like the, we would have like, you know, one of my friends had a VH, he rented movies, but there was a porno section and they had the giant swinging, you know, saloon doors that would swing as loud as you could and then swing back and then you would have to come out with like basically a encyclopedia
Starting point is 00:27:58 Britannica size movie to rent so everybody knew that you were you were getting like black jugs volume two right so Jay when you when you've studied this you've been studying some of them black jugs or studying clubs do you did you find that there's a certain type of person that tends to join a cult was there any research in that like who's vulnerable to this because there is this it's almost like when you go that the the the they. It's it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that tends to join a cult? Was there any research in that? Like, who's vulnerable to this? Because there is a, it's almost like when you go, when you go to Vegas, they have the hypnotist, like not everybody gets hypnotized.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I try so hard, it's like, I, not falling for this bullshit. And then the other person's like, oh my god, I'm a dog, I'm like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. that, that, like, like, thi, like, like, that, like, like, that, like, that, like, that, that, thi, that, thi, th. th'm a dog. And you're like, you just really want to be a part of something. Yeah, I know the, I think she's already kind of tough on a few points that would be standard patterns and people that are susceptible to that and that would be like bad home life, lacking that kind of community. And even if you did have a good home life, you still might be like in a rebellious teenage period, but you don't have anything outside of your family maybe that's giving you a sense of community. So that's one of the, well, that's a two key, you know, human emotional manipulation points that cults prey on. And if you go back to classic examples likethey lacked a father figure so he filled that role and
Starting point is 00:29:27 I think that that's that's definitely one of the key components and then some of the other things that have been mentioned would be the manipulation of other basic human desires like sexuality or food so you want to control people through their base desires and this really this really goes back to ancient societies like Plato figured out that you could control society through th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi tho thi thi thi thi tho thi thi thi thi's tho tho the the the the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi's thi's the's the the the the thea's thea's thea's thea's thea's thea's thea's thea's the that's that's that's that's that's desires. And this really goes back to ancient societies. Like Plato figured out that you could control society through people's diets and through mass media type. I mean, there wasn't mass media yet, but he's basically hinting at that same idea with the allegory of the cave. And so Colts are just basically studying human nature
Starting point is 00:29:56 and human psychology and the weak points. It is very interesting, the desire to be a the desire the desire to be part part part to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be to be the the the the the the desire to be a part of something as well. You know when you walk down, anything, any building that goes for sale on Hollywood Boulevard instantly gets bought by the Scientology. Oh wow. They own more property in LA than I think almost anybody. And in particular, Hollywood Boulevard. And when you walk past, you know, I do a joke about, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:29 the people who join Nexium, because you know, to make it Hollywood, you have to join a group. And it's either gay mafia, right? A.A. is one. People in AA make it all the time. Jewish, all right. And then there's Scientology is another one. And then there's sex cults. And I go if you're in all them, your name is Tom
Starting point is 00:30:52 Cruz, okay? So but people join those in hopes of connecting with some stuff. So but when you walk by people in Scientology, the first thing you'll notice is like there's nothing that stands out about them. Now I'm not trying to be disrespectful, they're not attractive or anything like that, but like they could easily blend into a crowd real quick. Like if you if you were chasing them and a giant crowd, you couldn't find because there's nothing about them that stands out. They're very, I don't want to be like plain, you know, like, like, like, the like, the like, the like, the like, the like, the like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. I. I. th. to, to, to, to, th. to, to, to, to, th. We's, they. th. th. their, th. their,'re very, I don't want to be like playing, you know, and like so there's probably this desire to join something to feel special and you put and you promise these people you promise these people and then you get them emotionally, you know so emotionally hooked and
Starting point is 00:31:41 then you start calling the shots because they don't want to lose that connection. Yeah I mean this guy would not let people fly on planes you know depending on how he was feeling and he would be like oh that you know that's gonna crash or like some girl like didn't end up getting this part in dead poet society but the girl that got it like ended up getting stocked and killed and he was like see I told you you were you were meant to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I'm the the the the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I was. I'm. I'm. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. th. I. I'm. I'm. the girl that got it like ended up getting stocked and killed and he was like, see I told you you were meant to be here with me, otherwise you would have been killed. Really? Remember that hot girl in the sweater with the short blonde hair in Dead Poet Society?
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Starting point is 00:34:08 Like, she recruited you in? Yeah, I mean, I don't remember exactly how it came to be, but I just know I was dying to be a disciple by the time, you know, and then he was telling me to go to Lake Shrine. So I went to Lake Shrine. By the way, some, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Shrine. By the way, some of these ladies at Lake Shrine, oh my god, like you be in there just singing some harmonies and like, excuse me, you're distracting me, it's like, bitch, I'm singing fucking harmony.
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Starting point is 00:37:12 Um, so nothing happened from these. No, they did. have sex, but like the second in command who is somebody that... And you were a kid. I mean, yeah, I was, okay, so look, I was really active as a kid sexually, so like, I was fucking kids across the street and my neighbors when I was like five. Well, dude, I want, you, you lost your virginity at five years old. I mean, I don't consider it losing your virginity and you're that small like okay well I I I was sexually active the two girls down the street Degleason sisters were were sexual predators and I was their victim and nobody ever wants to do a parade for me but the point is this is that like that's not uncommon the point is that
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Starting point is 00:38:50 Okay. Because he's just, he just wasn't, he just, I feel like he manipulated me. He was 43, I was 19. You know what? You know what? You know what I'm saying? That's why we like emotionally, we're saying, hey, you can't have sex with these people at this time. She was 19. What? She was 19. Yeah, but the point is, when you go lower than that, you're really just messing with
Starting point is 00:39:14 clay at that point. They haven't been shaped and molded into who they are. They haven't gone through a million different like relationships where they're like, oh, this is what guys say to me when they're full of shit. And I know this isn't going to happen, you know, I can't do this because it's going to lead to him just hitting it and quitting it. Do you know what I'm saying? It's almost like why Hollywood markets movies to children. Or why religions market their philosophies to children? because they're, you can make, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thioliolioli, thi, thioliolioliolioliolioli, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thiies to children, because you can make an impression on them.
Starting point is 00:39:48 As you get older, you know what your tastes are. So it's like when I see a dog shit movie trailer, I know, oh, I'm not going to drop $20 on that movie because it's going to suck. But a kid doesn't know that yet. So he's going toto see every movie and that's kind of what happens when you're a kid sexually like you don't realize what manipulations going on. Yeah who's putting you who's saying things that you want to hear that later on you realize okay you're saying that I like that but I got to see if you follow up with this this this and this. Yeah I was definitely I was definitely I I I I I I I I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I was definitely I th I was definitely I was definitely I th I was definitely I was I th I was a th I was a th I was a th I was a th I was a to see I was a to see I was a to see I to see I was a th. I got I was to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I to see I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th. I th. I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got to see to see to see to see if I was to see if I was to see if I was to to to to th. th. th. I thi. I the. I got to see if I got I to. Yeah, I was definitely, I think I gave my cousin my first blood job when I was like seven and he was 11.
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Starting point is 00:41:14 It's just a fact. That's why, like, up until a certain age, women can compete against men or girls can compete against boys in sports. And then at some point it just completely turns the other way. So you know the the Gleason sisters aren't bad people. They were just predators at like five or six and you know I'm in our like dude I was I said before I was eating butt in first grade. That's just who I am. Did they tag team you? No well yeah I mean like not the same time obviously but we all just
Starting point is 00:41:48 fool around but they fooled around with everybody but going back to the cults this isn't like Sam's like greatest hits here but um so you were impressionable did your sister know you were impressionable did your sister know that you were sexually like advanced for your age? Not really. I mean, we were both brainwashed. I mean, to this day, I tell her about, you know, giving my cousin a blowjob, and she's like, but you liked him. I'm like, what? So now you look back on that, and obviously it's your relationship with a relative. It's society, we don't deem that to be a relationship that you want to do, but do you look back,
Starting point is 00:42:31 you obviously don't look back at that as a positive thing, right? You're like, oh, I was just getting weird. I shouldn't have done that? I mean, I really wish that I had a fucking normal childhood, whatever the fuck that means. There is no normal childhood. Yeah, I that I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I wish I that I that I wish I that I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I that I that I that I that I that I that I had a fucking normal childhood, whatever the fuck that means. There is no normal childhood. Yeah, I mean, I wish I had assimilated like a, you know, I just wish I had almost sometimes I wish I'd stuck on the straight and narrow, but you know, what's most hurtful is that
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Starting point is 00:43:37 talking about the intelligence stuff that comes to mind here that's a pattern a lot of this stuff is confession right so the Vatican is the world's the world's oldest existing intelligence agency, right? And one of the ways that they were really successful in that was the confession. Like, so if you confess to the priest, you got really rich, powerful, noble elites throughout Europe confessing, oh, now suddenly everybody knows, like the sins of who's sleeping who and who's doing what, right? And then a lot of cults, theirahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. And their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, their, their, they, their, they, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and their, and their, and their, and they were, and they were, and they were, and they were, and they's, and they's, and they, and they, and they's, and they's, and they's, and they's, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, and, their. And, their, their. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, their.s adopted that practice. Sam mentioned Scientology. You have to do that in Scientology to get your thetan whatever cleared out, right? You gotta confess, you can do all this confession stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And so it's a way to get information and blackmail people. I'm just curious, did you have to confess to the master? Was there like secrets of like, oh, we had what were called cleansings. But you know, certain people lasted longer. I think people who knew more, who were more angry at him. But because I knew fucking nothing, mine would take real short, you know, mine would be like five minutes and I would take pride in like being like, you know, somebody that he didn't really have to spend too much time with, you know, I'm easy, you know, I'm in and out and I got this. So, you know, yeah, we would just go back to like my mother and he'd be like, count down the steps, you know, but you would tell him like what you were going
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Starting point is 00:48:28 know and that's his claim to fame yeah you'll see it if you watch holy hell. So interesting. Yeah so interesting. Very sun kiss nice nice body hair nice chest nice nice pecks nice you know nice thighs. She brings up a lot of stuff about like who, like just basically the breakdown of who he is. Jay, did you, who, who tends to be cult leaders? Like, we mentioned that they tend to have like intelligence connections, like, there's a lot of stuff about Charles Manson, we did an episode on Charles Manson recently, where Charles Manson was like in a detox center right before or some kind of holding center right before all the shit went down. You know if we study false flags at all you know I mean the more
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Starting point is 00:51:27 And I was just going to ask you guys, if you've seen two other really good cult documentaries that remind me of what she's talking about and her experience was the source family cult because that guy, father yoode, if you've not seen that documentary it's all the same characteristics, he has all the th.. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, their, thi, thi, their, thi, the, the, thi, the, thi, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, they...... And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they. And, they. And, toge, togu. And, togu. And, the, together, the. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, the, the same characteristics, he has all the weird like black market connections, and then he gets into ritual magic and it suddenly becomes this really dark sex cult, and then Moses Berg and the Children of God cult. Oh yeah. They have these exact same markers. Well, I mean, we've seen that. I mean, just, I mean, the Clintons are associated with so many of these cults now, too. I mean, I mean, the John's John's John's John's John's John's John's the John's the John's. the John is. then, the John, th. th. th. thi. the John, thi. the John, thi. thi. thi. thi. I'. I'. I'm, th. I'. I'. thi. thus. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. too. I mean the John of God cult, which is like super duper dark. And then this Nexium
Starting point is 00:52:06 thing which is crazy, which is like, you know, the best way to describe a cult leader to me is like they have the vibe of a male feminist. Have you ever met a male feminist before? Like, they're never on the up and up, they angling at something, and they just know they can't compete for chicks, straight up with Alpha, so their whole angle is like, I'm going to do this fake ass supportive thing, and then in the hopes of later on, backdoring the back door. Do you know what I'm saying? You see it happened all the time. I mean, when we look at, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.. thi, the, thi, th. the, the, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a, thi.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. th.a. th.a. th. th th th th th th time. I mean, when we look at like what happened with the Me Too movement outside of Weinstein, but a lot of these lower level people got busted.
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Starting point is 00:54:48 here's the also thing, I mean, look at the whole thing with, who's a guy from at midnight, Chris Hardwick? Chris Hardwick. Dude, I've met that guy other show I've ever seen my life. And dude, when he got taken down, not one of those motherfuckers stuck up for him. And dude, there's videos of her, the girlfriend that said all this shit about Chris, that videos of her on YouTube talk about what a great boyfriend he is.
Starting point is 00:55:27 And then it turns out she has a movie coming out and these dumb bitches don't know the difference between fame and infamy. And infamy, you end up doing donkey shows in Tijuana because that's the only place that will hire you after fucking being a scumbag that you are. But going back to the cult thing, like this is what they are. These guys have the backdoor stuff and they manipulate it. It's like I was talking to my friend yesterday. It's like there's a reason ass kissers do really well.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And when everybody else sees it and the person getting their ass kiss doesn't, it's because at their core, just like everybody else, they're insecure. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. So when you get this, I mean, you're a little different because you wanted to join the cult. That's just, uh, yeah, that's a weird Sid Hartha thing where you're just going around try and find alignment and dick down cults. That's a little weird. But, you know, most of these young ladies, theys become the father father.. That's that that thir thir thir that f father father father father father father father father father father father father father father father father father father father that that that that that that that that that that that young ladies, they get manipulated. These guys become the father that they always wanted, who's always telling them what they want to hear that they're beautiful, that they're part of big thing, that they're going to be his girl and all that stuff, and then what do they want to do?
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Starting point is 00:58:05 I don't know what the fuck we were there. You had to take pictures of pictures? Pictures of pictures. We had to like see what the fuck this person had. I don't know why, but I was so down, it was so hot. I just loved breaking the law, in the name of, you know, in the name of the master. We just look for danger in our life. That's what you are. You were looking for danger.
Starting point is 00:58:28 It's like, chasing that high. Yeah, when girls date bad boys, they think it's like, oh, this is dangerous. Yeah. He's gonna get, we're gonna live a dangerous life. Yeah, I mean, like, sometimes what I would, I would not too far, not too long to I would invite guys directly to my place and not knowing like am I gonna live are they gonna kill me are they gonna shoot me same you know say you know that was that's hot to you like I might die yeah like I'm to fuck a guy
Starting point is 00:58:57 without a condom for the first time it's like will I get aides like will I'm gonna they're gonna to ogether? Like it's kind of exciting, you know? Yeah, man, I get that. Might I get AIDS rush? I get that from me. That's good. I could get AIDS. So as we look at cults, Jay, like they tend to be around,
Starting point is 00:59:18 are they, I found that Nexium, maybe I'm wrong. But Nexium was very unusual because it was in Albany. Now I know Albany is the capital of New York State, but it's very far from New York City. A lot of these cults where see them, I think they tend to be in epicenters, right? Like, like, you know, you had a lot of base in LA, you've had, I mean, Utah is an epicenter from Mormonism and then you see these branches off. I mean, Scientology out of Los Angeles, you know, and then these epicenters where people tend to go and get lost and need to be shared. Is there any kind of statistics on like where cults like to begin, what areas they tend to want to start up in?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Oh man, I would say California itself is a giant military industrial complex Navy state that is a giant hotbed, Petri dish for the growing of cults. You can go back a hundred years in a lot of the experimental communities that were set up in LA, or excuse me, in California, generally speaking, the new thought movement, California just became a giant hotbed of experiments. I know, my dad was in the Navy. He was stationed in San Diego. I grew up in San Diego. So I can speak with some experience about this, that, you know, being out in LA many times the last few years researching for my book, I mean there's nothing but cults
Starting point is 01:00:47 on every corner, every street. Even as you drive up Big Sir, you've got Esselin up there, the Big Esselon Institute, which is a mind control MKLTRCult, I mean it's nothing but that, Ienters. And then sometimes if there's legal trouble for the cult, they'll have to flee to somewhere else. Like she was just mentioning with her cult leader having to go to other places. We see that with Oshah, we see that with Father Yode. He ended up in Hawaii, the Heaven's Gate cult,
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Starting point is 01:02:47 No. Hey ma'am. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I really do want to go. I hear the toky punch everybody. I love it. I love it. I love the dancing's off the chain in Mexico cities because all they're just waxi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're they're they're just th. thi. that. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I th. I th. I th. I t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm tod today. I'm today. I'm today. I'm t. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm they're just waiting to fucking dance and then they just get down but yeah I just have a random question for you Sam have you ever done DMT yeah I have oh yeah did you do you do it do you hear like you hear like that the aliens are sort of controlling everything did you get have that? No that when I did DMT I looked up I saw what I I thought was a dome? Interesting you see like these weird like like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. So. So. So. So. So, th. So, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th was a dome. Interesting. You see like these weird like kind of triangles and it's they all fit together. It's kind of weird man. It's kind of weird. Yeah, I did it by accident for three months in a row because I left some in my vaporizer.
Starting point is 01:03:34 You want here something crazy? I know a guy who said that he's someone laced his meth with DMT. Oh shit. So he smoked meth. And no, he actually shot it and it was laced with DMT. And he goes, dude, that was the worst trip I've ever had, man. Wow. But going back to the cults real quick.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Like Los Angeles has a lot of cult, a cult energy here. Like, you know, you have Jack Parsons, you know, and you know that whole group, you know comedy store, super culty. Really? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, watch yourself. You start saying that stuff. We'll never hear the end of it. These people investigate and they just find shit. But you know you have Jack Parsons, you have you know Scientology here. There's a lot of dark arts, a cold black magicons, you have, you know, Scientology here. There's a lot of dark arts, occult, black magic in this area, right? I mean, that could lead to, I mean, and plus on top of that, who moves here?
Starting point is 01:04:34 They're so vulnerable. They're looking to connect with somebody, which leads to like, basically being used and abused and turned out. Would you, I mean, what have you learned about LA and the occult? Jay I mean, I think that a lot of the directors have even been making movies about that I think that David Lynch's movies actually portray that in filming. We know Heis White Shut and Kubrick have talked about that that was that's what eyes white shots about. I think even Shining kind of hints at that because Danny is abused and I did my analysis, I did my TV show with Jay Weiner who does a bunch of Kubrick stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And we kind of disagreed on that because he thought, oh, this is talking about the moon landing and that kind of stuff. But I came to conclusion that it's the elite pedophile networks, not just in eyes white shot, but also in the shining. the th. And th. And th. And thine, thine, th. And thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thi. thi. I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I I. I. I I. I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, I. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm the the the the the thin. And, I'm the the toge. And, th. And, th th th th th toge. And, the the toe. And, abused in that hotel is the site that the elite were doing this abuse. It comes up in the film even, right? And if you saw Dr. Sleep, spoiler alert, that's what it's about. It's very explicit in the movie. I mean, it's like pito, satanic sacrifice, cults. I want to get into that too, John, John, do you to say? I was just about to bring up Dr. Sleep. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's the plot of the film, the entire plot. Well, you know, we also see that, you know, cults are also used as a front for sex trafficking, and in particular child sex trafficking, and what
Starting point is 01:05:57 we see is that they, because what they learn is they, they have vulnerable women. And you know, back when I was young I had a friend of mine named Lauren Jackson. I called her my pussy broker, okay? And basically her job was to walk up to women and basically sign off on me. She's like, you know, she basically give my dick credit report to them, you know, like, oh, this is a good guy, he's does this, this and this,'s good people blah blah blah and it would make it easier for me to get late Well, we see that a lot with these cults now in terms of Giselle Maxwell right? I mean like her and all these like super attractive young ladies at work for Epstein women Women trust other women. I don't know why but they do because we're afraid of them you're afraid of other women? What are you more afraid of? No, I mean. Other women or other men? Women scare me more. It's like what the fuck is going on
Starting point is 01:06:51 behind those smiling eyes sometimes. But, but you know, it's weird because I used to feel like, you know, when I first got out of the cult I was like, oh my god, I was just in this cult and it was like nobody fucking gave a fuck so after a couple years after after a couple years I was like who fucking cares like this everybody's it's not it's not that special every every girls pretty much almost been in a cult it's really not that special I'm guessing like probably 20 30% of all girls have probably been in a cult but it's like now everybody wants to talk about it and it's so weird to me because it's like, oh yeah, I wasn't a cold but it's like, it's really not that special anymore. Women love to say, like the big thing in LA, everyone wants to talk about how they've been kidnapped and really it's just them going on some weird coke run, right?
Starting point is 01:07:34 And they basically, they escape when the coke runs out, they like and then how I escaped. You're like, okay, you didn't get kidnapped. You went on a fucking crazy ass Coke party run. But yeah, we see that like they use, they use women. They manipulate women. You get a couple women's, you know, the Broffmans have been like involved in this stuff. And I think that they were manipulated, you know, I had a friend of mine from high school move out here and she was a slick talker and she would try to, she was explaining to us what we now understand is basically social media,
Starting point is 01:08:12 social promotions over the internet. You know, this is way before YouTube became what YouTube is today. And, you know, she was, she was, but she would talk in a way that you could never really tell what she was saying. And to me, I think that's what these cult leaders do, is they talk in such like, like what sounds like real intelligence, but it's really gibberish, and they tell them about this divine, this divine thing that, and let's face it, man, women are susceptible to spirituality. You, you know, women want to believe in this higher connection. Like, it's like, you want to try this out?
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Starting point is 01:09:34 get the results or you're fucking out. And what we see with political correctness and social justice warriors, this attempt to push society's rules and norms into business. And the businesses that fall for that crash and burn, you know, like Viacom. Right? Viacom did all the social justice warrior bullshit, and now nobody watches anything on Biocom. And now Netflix has Viacom flew. Because everybody from Viacom that ran the Integro, ran over to Netflix. And even though they don't have the same rules, they're doing the same shit over there.
Starting point is 01:10:12 It's like a meme I saw. It's like Bob lives in LA. Bob hates LA. Bob moves to Texas. the same way Bob voted in LA. And now Bob has turned Texas into Los Angeles. It's the same thing. It's like it's called a geographic. It's like vice does the same thing. Bice was super cool and then they started becoming very, very, very lefty and then everyone just dropped them. Well but they got bought out it's the
Starting point is 01:10:34 same thing with the onion and I remember when the onion got bought out people freaked out they like oh no they're like. they the the they're liked. Yeah. the the the the the the the they. Yeah. Yeah. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're liked. they're like. they're like. they're liked they're liked. they're liked. Yeah. they're like, they're like, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they're. they're they're. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th t took took th th th th th thr th thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It because it was right around the election they didn't want the onion to just annihilate Hillary Clinton but we see that a lot we see that like women are susceptible to hope okay and that's totally true I'm sorry go on Jay son go on go on I don't know I don't know what to go on Tokyo I was gonna say yeah hope hope is weird because I do have it no what and I have it even though I've licked the nastiest, hairiest old balls you've ever imagined. Good for you. You know, a lot of smells that I've had to go through. But you know, I spit on it and it's okay.
Starting point is 01:11:17 But I'm just saying, like, honestly, I remember even I went to Thailand and we were in the Pat Ponging district th th and I th, I th, I th, I th, I was, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thee, thee, thee, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the Pat Pong district and I remember there was this chick I was with and I was marvelling at the girls because you know they're dancing there and but they look completely fucking gone. They're empty you know and I said I was like they don't I was so dumb I was like they don't look like they're enjoying them and and here's here's here's the other thing it's like okay being being a hooker you know selling posse it's it's the fucking oldest profession in the book right okay it's capitalism exactly so you know and and part of me you know God forbid my poor parents who are my children at this point you know ever find out about this shit well they do listen to the show I feel like I would have to to be like to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be the the to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ttttttttttttto. ttto. tttto. ttttttttto. the the the the the the the the the they do listen to the show. I feel like I would have to be like,
Starting point is 01:12:05 Dad, I'm sorry, I'm really old-fashioned. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really old-fashioned all the way back. But you know, it's, you know, everybody talks about sex trafficking, you know, and how it's anybody you know I don't just even to be a comedian it's so expensive like half of this my pussy is paying for my you know comedy career right now. Hey Matt well you know what I appreciate your honesty and at the
Starting point is 01:12:32 end of the day I honestly I just think drugs and postitioce throwns that. they use thoes to lock up poor people. Because we do see high end escorting, that is very rich girls doing that. That's like high end women who are just like, they want to make a dollar selling ass to guys. And we lock up street walkers, because those tend to be poor girls.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Drug dealing, dude, is the same thing. We lock up the guys up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up the guys the guys th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho th. T Tog th. T, th. T, th. T, thoom thoom thoom thoom, thi. thi. thi. thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoom. thoom. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea. thea. thea. thi. the the tend to be poor girls. Drug dealing, dude, is the same thing. We lock up the guys that's on the corner selling drugs, why, you know, big pharmaceuticals sells everything and they have their drug house on the corner. It's called CVS and Rite Aid and all that stuff. So those are poor people crimes. You know, I, you know, Jay kind of talked about it a little earlier and I wish I would have, you know, jumped on, but, you know, the demonization of sex. Because I know the stuff you're saying on the show, you're going to hear some comments on it. And I'm going to be like, it's just stupid because you're just being you, okay? And I think that's what you should be. But there's going to be people are going to be people to go to go to go to go to go to go to go the to go to go the to go to go the to go the the to go reason there's this religious thing that has demonited sex over years. And it goes back to what Jay's talking about. It was just simply used to blackmail people.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Like they're saying right now it's harder and harder to blackmail people over gay sex because it's so much more socially acceptable. But that was a big thing. Jay Edgar Hoover like to dress up like a woman and there was this whole thing th thine thine thine thine thine thine thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the theat-a the the thi. theate-a. the the the the the sex. the sex. the sex. the sex. the sex. the sex. the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thea. thea a big thing. Jay Agar Hoover liked to dress up like a woman. And there was this whole thing that he was getting blackmailed. Why he was blackmailing other people. Now that they can't do that, now they go to undrude shit, pedal stuff. Since gay isn't a thing you can bash anybody. Yeah, since gay is in a thing. use pedophilia obviously but it's not used to just being called gay and then you were out of the election yeah yeah I mean like that was the whole thing and
Starting point is 01:14:28 it's kind of it's super duper tragic I mean they you know if you look at these calls you look at nexium I'm sure you could talk about this Jay in your research a nexium about they had to send all these naked pictures of themselves to Keith Renary for what purpose? Well, obviously for him to sexually gratify himself, but also so he could use that to blackmail them if they wanted to leave. What is your whole opinion on that, Jay? Yeah, you made two points I was thinking about back when you were talking about the way that it's marketed a lot to women and the idea of like raising your consciousness. These really vague kind of amorphous terms, we don't really know what we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:15:13 but it sounds and it feels really good. And that's by design too because that's part of the reason why they like the far eastern philosophies. Now I'm not knocking every aspect of Far Eastern philosophy, but a lot of the times the idea of meditating and turning off your reasoning faculties, that's very useful to a cult leader. Obviously, the cult leader doesn't want you using basic logic to point out his stupid contradictions and nonsense claims and fallacies. Yesterday you said one thing, that's a contradiction. Well, you can't recognize that unless you know basic logic. So if you're a cult leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader leader th l l l l- th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, theeeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the, the, the, can't recognize that unless you know basic logic. So if you're a cult leader, it's very useful to turn off the rational faculties and just go with what you feel because it's very easy to be misled by our feelings.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And absolutely. So sex, again, basic human desires, food, sex, wanting to be emotionally desired and loved. That's why they do these manipulative tactics. Like you said, it's the most ancient practice. She said like prostitution is the oldest profession. The second oldest profession is spying. Yeah. So you can see why sex crimes and blackmail go hand in hand is because it's it's gone on since the beginning of human history. I was trying to think about this yesterday like I'm like yeah okay they demonized sex so they can't the the their their their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. they they they they th. they they they th. th. th. they th. th. th. th. they th. they tho. thi. their the. they they they they they they they their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. their. th. they're they're th. they're th. they're th. th. th. th. the. the. the. It's theole. the. theole. It's th. It's most. It's most most th. It's most their their their their their their their the. It was trying to think about this yesterday like, I'm like, yeah, okay, they demonized sex so they could blackmail you. But way back in the day, how did they blackmail you?
Starting point is 01:16:30 Did they just have someone run in with a drawing? That's you. That's the dog. If you don't do it, I say, this is going to be because I think back then, it's almost like you're saying, rumor. It was, if it was just put out that there is a rumor that you were gay, you were done. Well, I mean, there's also a time where it was more acceptable, and then, of course, you know, these religious books are inserted to each of these religions in which they demonized certain things that most likely the guys who are writing it we're doing. Just like kind of like we see right now in American politics where like the most
Starting point is 01:17:08 anti-gay guy loves trucker dick right? I mean like that's just the way it is man. And these cults are no different and then the whole key is like you know for the longest time Jay I don't know if you saw these Alicia or Elisa or whatever these these YouTube videos were on YouTube that were like we talked about earlier But it was like other shows about how they were somewhat like like corporate kitty porn, and It wouldn't be straight up kitty porn, but it would be up to the limit and They weren't taking these videos down ever they weren't taking these videos down ever they were no matter. They they weren't. They they. They weren't they they they they they they they they th. They weren't th. They weren't th. They weren't th th th th th th these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these they they they they they they weren't they weren't they weren't they weren't thi thi thi tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thi tha tha these these these these these these these these these videos down ever they weren't taking the no matter what happened they weren't taking these videos down and then you know I realized it was because they were tracking the commenters who was commenting and they would follow you and they realize you had a propensity for young kids then they
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Starting point is 01:18:27 Don't fool around kids. It's back. Go on, Jay. Have you heard of the doctor daytapes? This is pretty well. No, what is that? So back in the late 60s, there was a Rockefeller medical convention. And this actually pertains to everything toe've been talking about. And what they did was they got together all the top doctors, the elite of the medical profession, and they had this fairly secret conference.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And one of the guys who was there went and kind of leaked some of this stuff to the mainstream media. And it's been out there for many years, but a lot of people were dubious about it, because nobody could thrown...true. But now, about 30, 40, 50 years later, we can confirm it was true because everything that's talked about in the doctor date saves has basically come to fruition. And so what it talks about is pressure from above and pressure from below. So like when you were talking about drugs, being sold to poor people,
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Starting point is 01:20:00 the doctor day tapes they'll blow your mind because it talks about everything that we see today 30, 40 years ago. If you take a look at, if you read Behold the Pale Horse, he talks about how the dark arts, the deep state, whatever you want to refer to the powers that be, the masses of mankind, will push the gay lifestyle. They'll push a gay lifestyle while at the same time, basically putting AIDS out there. So they're pushing everybody into being gay, and then they're just destroying the gay community with AIDS. So they want everybody to be gay, so it lowers the population,
Starting point is 01:20:37 and then they're gonna try to kill them off with HIV. That was a big thing. So it's both sides of it. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, thi, tho, tho, they're they're they're they're they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're they're they're they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, thoooooo, thooooooo, thoooooo, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thing. So it's both sides of it. I mean like the Clintons themselves are just a great example of that. The all the Coke coming through Arkansas, you know, that's where they that's where they got most of your crack cocaine coke. Everybody's looking at Florida, you know, outside of Jay's house right? They think that's where all the Coke is and it's really coming through Arkansas and no one's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi's the they. thi's thi's the c. the c. the the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. the c. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. they. the the the where all the coke is and it's really coming through Arkansas no one's paying attention to it and why and then so we think that George Bush and Bill Clinton are our enemies they're really good friends they get Bill Clinton who passes a crime bill that makes crack
Starting point is 01:21:16 cocaine like almost like a death sentence Bill Clinton so he's shipping the coke they're doing that now with all this trap music it talks about I sell I sell drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the drugs I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the I the th th th th th th th the th tho thus thus the the th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so the the th I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th coke in and he's demonizing the coke. They're doing that now. With all this trap music, it talks about, I sell drugs, I do that, and then the homie gets arrested and they're like, free the homie. You were just telling him to sell drugs. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the same thing. Yeah. And when, let me ask you what state does thi, th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th thu, thu, th thu thu thu that that that that that that that that that that that that thate that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that that that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. tha tha tha that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that. that that, I that, that. from? Well he comes from David Rockefeller State, Arkansas, and I met with Bill and Hillary many years ago and I decided they would make good candidates for the presidency. Yep, they saw, well she was, her father was head of the Chicago mob and then I forget what connection Bill Clinton has. I think he's a Rockefeller or I mean the Bushes are Rothschild.
Starting point is 01:22:04 He was a governor and the, the state of Arkansas, that's where the Rockefellers are headquartered. That's their state. Oh my God. And that's why that's why that's the old mob place. Like if you're part of the Chicago Mafia or any of the mafies, you actually go to Hot Springs Arkansas to go to the bath............. That's. That's. That's. I. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. that's where's where's where's, the the the the th. that's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's where's, the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the state. the the the the. the. the. the. the state. the state. the state. the state. the. the bats. That's where all the mobsters would meet and have their conversations. You know, it's so interesting. So Arkansas is right, what, ranked 50th and everything? Where's the other place that's doing pretty shitty? Alabama. So we do a podcast, we do a live Tim Fall Hat comedy show in Huntsville, Alabama. After we get done, after 70 people came to see us, all right? 70. The worst turnout we've had all time. Sherry. the. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. the to. the to. they. to, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their all right? 70, the worst turnout we've had all time. Sherry Shepard, they couldn't pack enough black people in there.
Starting point is 01:22:48 They were just like crowbarring black people in there. We had nobody into our, no, there were 70, man. We still went out there and rocked like a fucking bunch of rock gods. But it's like nobody's there. The sound guy comes up for he goes dude they set you up for failure bro you got set up for failure because this is the home of the new world order this is where the real NASA shit goes down everyone thinks it's Houston oh yeah it's really Huntsville Alabama that's where Vaughan went when he first came to the United he was there and there was this running thing in Huntsville that you couldn't
Starting point is 01:23:24 talk about him being a Nazi because everyone had convinced the United States, he was there and there was this running thing in Huntsville that you couldn't talk about him being a Nazi because everyone had convinced themselves he just did it because they made him did. It wasn't really what we's into you know so you have that there, NASA, the New World, it's all out of Hunts. I forget who else is in Huntsville. There's another headquarters out of Huntsville too. But again, nobody's th. My th on th. My th on th on th. My th. My thine, my th. My thian, my thian, my thian, my th. My thian, th. th. thian, th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, thinks, thus, that, thinks, thinks, tho, tho, tho, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the United, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. that, that, the the that, the the that. the that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. thi. thi. too. But again, nobody's looking to Alabama. No, my John is actually a NASA dude and he goes there all the time and he wants me to go with him, but I've actually met people from there that tell me horrible stories about people just killing each other there. And I'm afraid to go there because of my mouth.
Starting point is 01:24:00 And I just, you know, I feel like I'd get fucking beat up or something. I mean, bad shit goes there. I'm surprised you went there because you're very, you know, outspoken and I would imagine like somebody might come in with a gun or touch. I didn't even know Huntsville was a thing. Like, they're like, hey dude, I like everybody. I mean, like, hey, dude. I would do thoo. I mean, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm like, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. you. you. you're you're you're you. you. you. you. you. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're like, dude, we're here to see you. I'm like, how far did you drive, like, seven hours? I'm, okay, I'm gonna go to Alabama. And it's just like, nobody showed up because everybody's taking checks off this new world or shit, so they don't wanna hear about how they're part of some shady shit, NASA's bullshit. Or flat earth.
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Starting point is 01:25:17 hang out. Me it was Hot Springs and that's why like in my second book I did a whole chapter just on Hollywood and the mafia connections. All the different mafia is Italian. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theynea.oananananananananananananananananananananity. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.oee.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.oe.onee.o.o.o.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. the., I did a whole chapter just on Hollywood and the mafia connections, all the different mafias, Italian mafia, all of them. You know, when people say Trump's a mobster, I go, you know, you know, that to me is kind of a cool thing. I mean, like... Everybody above a certain level is a mob. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, you know what, dude, I like, thu, thu, I like, thu, I like, I like, I like, thu, I like, I like, I like, I like, thu, I like, I like, thu, I like, thu, I like, I like, thu, I like, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. thr. that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thr. thr. thr. th. th. th. I mean I'm not saying the mob is great I mean but why did we enjoy the Sopranos because there was something like as shady as that guy was there was a little bit of honor of him trying to keep
Starting point is 01:25:53 this family together and and try to run this organization and what is the Italian mob do? They keep their neighborhood clean and stuff like that. I'm not saying that the mob is right. th. th. th. th. I. th. I's. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi. their, thi. thi. their their their their their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. I'm not saying that the mob is right or anything like that, but... Well, you've got a big mob that's above all the, that's now trying to push out all the other mobs. That's been going on in the history of mafia stuff. You got one big sort of Illuminati Deep State mob pushing everybody else out. Well, you have like, I'm like, we've on in Washington, D.C. right now is like crime bosses versus satanic pedophiles and the satanic pedophiles that have been in office since Kennedy was assassinated. When you say satanic, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:26:35 I mean like black cube of Saturn, not like, you know, hail the devil, the shout, the I mean like, I'm talking like dark arts, like child sex sacrifice. I'm not talking about, you know, the sa, the sa, the, the, the sa, the, the, the, the, the sa, the same, the same. The same, the same, the same, the same. The same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the saianic, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sai, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the sa, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the sa-ananananananananananananananananananananananananananananitanananananitananitanananitanitanitanit, the dog. I mean like I'm talking like dark arts like child sex sacrifice shit. I'm not talking about Ozzy Oszy Osbourne singing a song about you know how let the moon or shit like that I'm talking about real dark arts like you know it's like kill adrenochrome bullshit and all that stuff that comes along with Saturn worshiping not not like luciferian shit and here we go I'm gonna get pounded on in the kind. I the devil. the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm not to to to the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm not the devil the devil to the devil the devil the devil the devil the devil the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I the devil. I to to to to to to the devil. I to to the devil. I'm to the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm not the devil. I'm not the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theing. Not like Luciferian shit, and here we go, I'm gonna get pounded on in the comments, but it's like, I'm sorry, they took all the characteristics
Starting point is 01:27:15 of Saturn worship and put it on to this thing called Satanism. So you looked, oh, look at the Satan, and it's over here, that you got these black cube people who don't do anything in public. You they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, and they, and they, and they just, and they just, and they just, and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. that, and thus, and thus, and thi, and th. th. thus, and thus, and thus, and thus, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and th. And, and th. And, and th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha. tha. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, then it's over here, that you got these black cube people who don't do anything in public. You just, they just love to put their cubes down everywhere. And you're like, whoa, dude, that's a black cube, that's a black cube. That, those are like dark art shit, man. Yeah, did you see that the Vatican approved both the Molok statue in Rome which has the all-seeing eye on it.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Dude, and like Moloch is what you make child sacrifices to. Why is Rome? I feel like Rome is like, I think we're in. Listen dude, I get it. A lot of people like, don't believe, like I was at the comedy store last night and I was sitting there and you know I bring up that I just love watching Trump Jr. just go light up the view and I'm like I'm not saying Trump is a great guy you know Trump Jr. is this wonderful person or you know I give it up from sticking up for his dad
Starting point is 01:28:17 but you know it's like the view has been complicit just like Chelsea Handler and all these other fucking girls from the show Girls and Jud Appetown, all these people pushing this narrative of bullshit, political correct social justice warrior shit. And as we find out, as we go back, they pulled all the shit they're trying to fucking take everybody down for. And so when Trump Jr. goes on there and says to, what's her name, who's the lady did blackface? Joey Bayhar, whoophe, will be goberg.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Joey Bayhard and will be goberg. You did blackface and you said sex with a 13 year old isn't rape and they're like, oh, oh, like, I love that. Burn it all fucking down. But at the highest levels of this, uh, behind all this, uh, thi. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, w, w, w, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, w, w, w, w, w, w, w, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's, w's the the the at the highest levels of this, behind all this, uh, dark arts. And you know, if you're following Larry Johnson, the football, former football player, he's calling out like, how much cult, a cult bullshit is in pro sports. And you like, start seeing like, how there's these guys who, like, very early on, they realize, oh, this kid's got, like, real skills.. this, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th how there's these guys who like very early on they realize oh this kids got like real skills and I think they get into them and like look at everything like like look at everything that LeBron James
Starting point is 01:29:35 has done it's been nothing but social justice warrior lefty pushing why comes out we find out like he said that they painted the M word on his fucking house it wasn't real so this is a different call we have this this spirit this the th th th th th this this this this this this this this this this this th c this th. this this this th. th. th. this thi this thi this thi this this thi this this this this this this this this thi thi thi this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this kids this kids this kids this kids this kids this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th he said that they painted the M-word on his fucking house it wasn't real so this is a different call we have the spirit cooking lady we see everybody's meeting with this chick who's dude spirit cooking one episode of us Saturday Night Live had the rock doing a sketch about a pedophile robot okay they're like hey you have to make the most evil invention and he's like I made a robot that can molest children at a hundred times times times times the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi. So this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is a th is a th is a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi. thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the, hey, you have to make the most evil invention. He's like, I made a robot that can molest children
Starting point is 01:30:08 at a hundred times faster pace than everyone else. Oh my God. They're like, that is so, and it was like, it was funny for what it represented. But then they had Kay Perry on and she was doing, she basically had spirit cooking on her, one of her live songs. I'm like, this is the most cult episode of Saturday Night Live I've ever seen in my life. What's spirit cooking?
Starting point is 01:30:32 Sorry, I don't know what that is. Jay, what do you think? How would you describe spirit cooking? Well, so some of the top, black magic, uh, Crowly type proponents would describe that as a way to utilize certain fluids, bodily fluids that have believed to have ritual power. And then you kind of mix them together at a certain time at a certain setting and that it ritually charges them. So it's kind of viewed like a dark version of a sacrament,
Starting point is 01:31:00 like if you think about the Catholic Church or, you know, body blood of Christ, like a dark version of that with with these kind of menstrual fluids and things like that at times. Okay, cool. I wasn't sure. Blood semen and all that stuff and they all do, you see Lady Gaga, you see like Madonna's been there. Did you see those guys the other day they were making human blood sausage? Yeah, I mean, dude, they's they......... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the that. the the they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeahthi. I, thi. I, thi. I thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. th. th. thi. t. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. th. th. disturbing child sacrifice scenes I've ever seen in the film. But I'm not sure, it may well be that Stephen King is trying to reveal that stuff. I don't know because it was in his book. What do you, hey, did you see Dr. Sleep? Well, hey, did you see Dr. Slee?
Starting point is 01:31:53 Well, I think theycea. that's what I your thought about it, though? Do you think it's coming, is it sort of like an insidious thing or the film, or is it, are they actually trying to promote that kind of lifestyle, would you say? Well, I tend to think that Kubrick, in his version, he was, in many of his kii. the do this kind of mind control, this kind of human trafficking stuff. What would you say about that? But in this film, this is supposed to be the real vision that, you know, Stephen King wanted, I guess, with his story. So it still vindicates that, but no, I think it's pretty dark stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I mean, I wouldn't say that it's try to expose it because it's essentially, Obviously the good guys win the movie, but I don't think that, yeah, I'm dubious about Stephen King. I think that news pretty creeper. Did you see Midsomar? No. Yeah, I did a big announcement. That's, that's, what is that about? What is that about? It's like cult type shit. It was, it hit close to home. I kind of, it was, yeah, I'm a real. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I'm, it, it, it, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I, it, I, I th. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. Did. Did. Did. I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I. I, I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I th. I th. Did, I th. Did, I th. Did, I th. Did, I th. Did, I th. Did, I th. Did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did. Did. Did. Did, I th. Did. Did, I th. Did, real fucked up. You would love it. Maybe, maybe not.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I don't know. I'm a weirdo, for sure, for sure. Yeah, it's exciting. So as we come to an end here, what made you leave, was it that everybody got old and they weren't bangable anymore? Or were you just like, I gotta get out of my life? Well, so I was trying to get this thing called the knowing, which if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if the master, if thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. Yeah, it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thr. thr. to, th. th. th. th th th to, th thr. to, thr. to, it's, it's, it's, it's, to. thr. the master thought you were ready, he would sit you down and and he would open up your third eye. Basically what happens when you do LSD, DMT, that type of stuff. Shrooms, I guess. But I never, I never got it and I just kind of slowly realized that I was never going to get it. I was never going to, you know, sort of transcend this reality, this plane. So I just said, fuck it, I'm going, I, I, I, I, I, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just,, fuck it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go, you know, try to be, you know, a superstar, a music person or whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:47 So I left, and yeah, and then like a year later is when I found out that he was like having sex with all the dudes. So, yeah, I just got bored as fuck, you know what I mean? Eight years of that shit. He was charming, but he was really charming and funny. But, but, but, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th funny, but uh, but yeah, it got real old Did a lot of people leave and when they left was there a problem? There wasn't a I mean, it was definitely frowned upon, but he was cool with me But you know, I haven't I haven't been to see him in a long time if you showed up would he'd be like theymeand if I showed up, he'd be like, you know, I'd probably be really sweet and I'd probably be like overwhelmed with love like a retard. And I'd probably like, you know, I'd probably be like, I'm home.
Starting point is 01:34:29 You know what I mean? Well, I'm glad you're out of the cult. Tell them where they can find all of your info. You can find me at I am Hung at Hung Young Terrorist.com. Thank you so much. Sam, you're such a fucking legend. I first heard about you on the guys we fucked podcast. And it was like Sam Tripoli, Sam Tripoli.
Starting point is 01:34:53 And then I met you, and anyways, everybody loves you. That podcast, thank you for those kind words. It means a lot. That podcast is what I say is an example about how the name of your podcast is almost as important as what the podcast basically the podcast it's like guys we fucked my favorite murder tiger belly. Call me daddy there's a swan. Yeah I mean like dude. I mean people gave me so much shit for Tinfall Hat at first they're like nobody's gonna do this show and I'm like now it's why people find the show. It's because you know exactly what it is. It is the th is the th is the th is the th is th is the th is the th is the th is th is the the the th is th is the the th is the the th is th is the th is th is th is th is th is th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. the th. the the the gonna do this show. And I'm like, now it's why people find the show. It's because you know exactly what it is. So, Jay, can you tell everybody where they want to come to see you?
Starting point is 01:35:34 And I know it's in the not distant future, but I hope when you are in town, you'll come back on, we'll talk and we'll tell and we'll tell and we'll tell and we'll tell and we'll tell, we'll tell, talks some more of the occult in Hollywood because, and let me end with this before he tell us. Do you think anything's going to change? I think we're in a place where within the conspiracy community where we're like, okay, you guys have all the info. Yeah. Somebody should be doing a purplock.
Starting point is 01:36:00 And I felt that with Obama like, okay, man, when change is coming, dude, we've been when we, and we just kept seeing this kind of like, hold off. But here I feel like all the research has been done for Donald through the truth community, like, hey, dude, there's this, there's this, there's nothing's happened. In your opinion, as much as I might not want to hear it, do you think anything will change? We're at the fork in the road. I would say yeah, we're at the fork in the road to where if Epstein and the entire world and the whole world of memes can't wake people up to it, I think that's the fork in the road. So it remains... Do you think Epstein is dead? Do you think Epstein is dead?
Starting point is 01:36:47 I could see it going either way. I don't think he killed himself. That's definitely not true. I mean, that's obvious BS. I could see him being gotten out of the way and I could also see him being spirited away to some island with a with a drink somewhere with a umbrella in it. Yeah, either somebody has him or Queen Elizabeth often. I think it's above the Clinton's payroll. I think he was on
Starting point is 01:37:10 their level that they couldn't just be like kill him off that he could buy off anybody about to kill him off. I think that it's like and you know when we hear this ABC story she goes hey the palace the palace killed it off and when someone brought this up the other day to me when th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to th. to to th. to th. to th. th. to th. to th. th. to thi. to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to to to to me to me to me to me to me to to to to to to to to th. to th. to the. to to to to to the. to to the. to the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. I the. I th. I the palace, the palace killed it off. And when someone brought this up the other day to me, when they go, when they go, when they go, the palace, that to me says that's been discussed before and everybody knows who the palace is. Like that's a reference for Buckingham Palace and that maybe there's, they have more saying everything going on than we ever knew. Or wanted to admit. Yeah, yeah, th, th, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, to to to to to to to to to tho, thi. to tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, when tho, when. tho, when. tho, when. tho, when. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, the to, to to to to to the to to to to to to the to the to the to the the the the the the the tha. the the tha, when, when going on than we ever knew or wanted to admit. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. I mean, I talk about that quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:37:49 Actually, and I do a series of lectures called my Globalism Books Talks, and all I do is go through the top writings of the elite of the last hundred years. So we've done 35 plus of those. So if you go to my YouTube channel on my website, you'll find that's that that that that that that that that that that thiiiiiiii, thi and, thi and I, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm to to that, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta, I ta.a. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta, I ta, I ta, I about that, all those different books. You can actually get it from the sources just in my talks and lectures. So if you subscribe to the site, you get the full archive talks and interviews. And then I do two books, Esoteric Hollywood, one and two. You can get the sign copies of that at the website where I go through all the weird, creepy stuff in Hollywood and in the movies and then like I said I'll be at Doze Coffee Shop in St. Augustine, Florida this Saturday at 4 p.m. to do a book signing so you guys can come out to that.
Starting point is 01:38:31 If you're in the Florida area and thank you so much Sam you guys have been killing it, loving what you're doing. Jay, you're welcome anytime all the time. I'm glad you used to come the show. We haven't ran you off yet with our cuckoo craziness. Actually, thank you, Johnny, thank you. Guys, can't wait to see you guys tonight at the backstage bar and billiards. You guys are the best. Thank you for supporting the show as we start to go down to the end of 2019. We're trying to bang out some bangers for you. So just so you know we appreciate you so love yourself love everyone around you and we'll talk to you guys soon take care bye
Starting point is 01:39:11 we go deep home boy Eric open your mic drink from the fountain of knowledge there's lizard people everywhere that that's some interdimensional mind.

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