Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - 310: The Midnight Gospel with Duncan Trussell

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hattie. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home, boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown. Oh, Revolution will be podcasted. And welcome to Tim Poyle Hat.

Starting point is 00:00:52 You know who I am. You know I'm here to do. I'm here to rock. Man, I guess the connection is slow. Joining me as always my partner, crime. He was a freedom fighter with me at the rally yesterday, downtown. Apparently we went to the wrong one because it looked like the Huntington Beach one was popping my good friend Xavier Guerrero

Starting point is 00:01:12 What's up dude, I man? It was a fun time Hey Xavier, can you tell us a bunch of podcasts real quick? Oh, yeah, I started producing a show called George Press Stories. It's fun. It's a little crazy. We're out there smoking, trilling, strippers here and there. It's kind of like the naughty show, but without Sam. So, yeah, still going hard in the paint during the pandemic. Also joining me on the ones in two, Mr. Johnny Wooder, how are you man, I'm good. How are you, Johnny, thanks, th th th thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, than, than, than, th you Johnny thanks for coming in on Saturday I understand that you are you know you like your weekends off your kind you know what my

Starting point is 00:01:48 girlfriend's tanning at a friend's house so I'm totally fine okay so she she let you out that's so nice she has she already has you you you're on lockdown that's right Johnny broken simulation the kids are all to the new episode drops oh when do you think the new episode drops? Oh, I think it drops this weekend, my friend. Okay, perfect. Saturday night, which is tonight. Tonight.

Starting point is 00:02:13 Tonight, new episode of Broken SimCim trivilly comedy. to every rockin and rolling. People are talking about this might be the best episode yet. YouTube.com forward slash Sam Tri-a-Icom.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com. to. to. to. to. to go. to go. toing about this might be the best episode yet. YouTube.com forward slash Sam Trivally Comedy. Yeah, go to YouTube.com backslash. Forward slash Sam Triply Comedy or Broken Simulation. Dot com. I guys got to check out the Patreon. It's been rocking. New episodes every day.

Starting point is 00:02:38 I just dropped a nine minute for the record on Patreon. You can find me on Subscribe Star or premium content on YouTube it's available all across the board. T-shirts are rocking to tip-foil hat t-shirts dot com get that we got mass we got t-shirts we got everything and as you guys know what is that what is that?? What did you just do right there? I'm trying to pay the bills and you're fucking with assimilation. Real quick before Duncan blows our minds. Guys, as you know, we're doing a small business, small business scholarships. So we want to talk about two scholarships we're giving out today.

Starting point is 00:03:27 The first one is our good friend Ryan Hill, Don Carlos Tacos in LaHoia. If you go to a comedy store, it's right down the street. And all the comics love it. He's kind enough to come down, give all the comics a free burrito or whatever. Just go to eat a burrito.com. And it is the best best best best best best best best best best the best best best best best the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. the best. to. to. toaco or whatever. Just go to eat a burrito.com and it is the best food in La Hoya there on Pearl Street and what they're doing is really cool. They're also selling beer in mayonnaise jars, homemade beer in mannage jars. Ryan Hill is the best. There's no better Mexican food in the whole San Diego area than our good friends at Eat a burrito. Ryan Hill's kind enough got me tickets to the final game

Starting point is 00:04:11 at the for the Raiders in Oakland and it was nice not to hang out with him and his entire family. We got breakfast burritos vegetarian burritos, meatos, taco, soft, crispy rolled you name it. They got chimnaggas nachos, drinks fries, fries, fries, side orders, and and the, and and and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the the the the their. and their. and their. And their. And their their their, soft, crispy, rolled, you name it. They got chimichongas, nachos, drinks, fries, side orders, and they're serving beer in jars. Obviously during this pandemic, you gotta order out, but go down and support small business, support Don Carlos Taco Shop on Pearl Street in La Jolla. Ryan Hill is by far one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and there's no better person to help than that guy. He's got gorgeous family and I've known him for years.

Starting point is 00:04:53 He wasn't on the conspiracy tip, but now he is. So we want to help him out again. That's eat a burrito.com. And then our second scholarship is going to, as you know, I can't even find my glasses, so I'm really into glasses. So it is Painsglasses, that's right, Painsglasses.com, go to Painsglasses.com, that's P-A-Y-N-E, glasses, G-L-A-S-E-S dot. And very cool.

Starting point is 00:05:15 And very cool. And they are super small company company only about 10 of them in the office, 10 in the lab. She worked closely with the manager. Their goal is to sell portable glasses. Their competitors sell at $95. They start at $5.95, okay? Full glass repair with the Rx for just the cost of the frames. Our frames are under $35, right? Their customer service is the best in the industry. They take time to know their customers.

Starting point is 00:05:52 They truly care about vision and needs. And she's not just saying that, okay? She means it, okay? If you wait on hold for 25 minutes, if you call us, you'll get someone within 30 seconds. You don't have to to to to to to to to to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait to wait their their their their their their their, thua thua thua thua thoomk, thotalk to someone if you call us you'll get someone within 30 seconds you don't have to wait 25 minutes they're proud of their charity work people helping people we offer free they offer free glasses the people who can't afford them specifically made to their RX and they haven't been using

Starting point is 00:06:16 someone else's old they don't have to use their someone else is old junky glasses okay they're small, they're growing like crazy. And, hey dude, they're a small business and they hit us up, they're part of the swarm. So go to paying glasses.com, it's P-A-Y-N-E-G-L-A-S-S-E-S dot. So, those are the two scholarships. I hope you guys check out their websites, trying to help small business out there. And that's it. So guys, thanks so much. Let's get to it.

Starting point is 00:06:49 Joining me is one of the original members of the Stupid Dummies, sketch comedy show. Just let you know how progressive the stupid dummies were. Our opening act was L magical. That's how great our act was. One of the very inhead of its time shows was, sketches was called, Duncan's got cancer, where he went out on a sketch. And we thought he really had cancer,

Starting point is 00:07:18 so we all shaved our heads, and we did a Kojak dance. Joining me, the very successful Netflix show, the Midnight Gospel Duncan Trussle. Hello! Hello! Hey, what's up, man? Sam, you got it, you know what?

Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm gonna say it because I think people in the audience have got to be thinking it. You just got back from this rally and you're coughing. Yeah. Is that, like, is there, if I were you, and did this this this this this this this this this this this, and, this this this th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the mid-ni.... the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, coughing. Yeah. Is that, like, is there, if I were you, and did this cough happen before, no matter what, don't you think this is the problem with, uh, this is the problem with those rallies, is not the substance of people protesting, that's an American tradition. But from a, like, if I'm going to look at through the lens of like the most extreme conspiracy theories even whatever you want to call it regarding what's going on here right planemic whatever the idea that there there isn't really a COVID it's just flu season the tests are all

Starting point is 00:08:19 fucked up they wanted a reason to lock everybody down yeah or there is a there is like a COVID and and the the tests the the the tests tests the tests te te te te te te te te te te te te th th th te th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is the the the the the the the the te te te te te te te te te teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee theory. the the the the the the the the to lock everybody down. Yeah. Or there is a, there is like a COVID and, but it's just not as bad as they thought. Don't you think like, if that were the case, if any of the conspiracy theories are right, and what's happening isn't just a pandemic, like everybody thought was going to happen. Don't you worry about going to a place where there's protesters? Someone could easily just go there and release COVID-19 into the crowd to take care of the protesters

Starting point is 00:08:50 and to humiliate them and make them seem like they were totally wrong? Well, that's a great point, and I think about that. There's something I think about that. Maybe this isn't the hit that they want to hit us and that they get everybody out protesting so when they try it again everybody goes out and they hit us with us I would just tell you I've had that cough for a while I haven't you know you can ask Martha I cough at night it's probably from some of my drug abuse over time but I could also die so this might be my farewell show either way I'd rather go out go out on top talking to you, Duncan. I think.

Starting point is 00:09:27 You know, I mean, like, it is what it is, dude. You know, and I don't believe that, I mean, I'm a typo positive, which is very hard to get it. I'm in the demographic that it's hard for it to get it. And we'll see, dude. If in a week I'm dead, I would love for you to say nice things at my memorial. I'd be glad to. And just talk about all the weird shit I used to do sexually in front of you

Starting point is 00:09:53 while you just try to talk me off a ledge. Oh man, now we have fetish is this man. This is such, this thing is such a mind fuck that I've never experienced something so profoundly confusing and in claustrophobia-inducing. And I swing from, I swing from like hardcore conspiracy theorists, you know, like, I was like 40% of me was certain we were going to get hit by an asteroid on Wednesday. Yes, and then I'd swing from that to like just full-on, like fucking just do martial law, let's lock everybody down for two fucking months of the goddamn thing birds out, and we get to go back out in the world. But then, whenever I'm doing that, I just realize like, you know what, I'm th, I'm th, I'm just th, I'm just th, I'm just th, I'm just to to to th, I'm just to to to th, I'm just th, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi the goddamn thing birds out and we get to go back out in the world. But then whenever I'm doing that I just realized like, you know what, I'm doing, I'm just reacting to not knowing what's going on, which I think is the most disturbing reality.

Starting point is 00:10:53 That's, I think we can all agree on that. I think if you don't agree on the fact that we all just don't know what's happening because it's a brand new thing. It's a, and this is the first time we've ever done this before in the United States, locking everybody down. So that, just that question mark, I think, don't you think that's probably one of the main things that's causing so much trouble, maybe even more than the COVID-19, it's just a lack of death. I think, I think there are a reaction our our our our our our our be way more deadlier and cost way more consequences than the actual virus itself. You know this is a virus it's for real things are really happening.

Starting point is 00:11:32 Uh, the reaction is much as you say that, Sam, as much as you say that when we were there, none of the cops had a mask. It's confusing. They're telling you that there's this COVID thing, none of the cops have a mask. And then when we're leaving, what were you doing, Sam? See you later, cops. Yeah, it was the weirdest like, it was the weirdest thing. There was a point where stuff was gonna pop off and then it didn't. And then the protesters were like saying goodbye to the cops. The cops were like saying goodbyeotally true.

Starting point is 00:12:05 The only thing I do, Duncan, I'm not really into any of the, guessing what's going on behind closed doors. I'm really about like, what is history shown us? What are, what do we know about past actions? And how do they line up today? And then who gets money and who gets power? And that's all., and to, and to be, and to be, and to be honest, and to be honest, and to be honest, and to be honest, and to be honest, and the the they. And they, they, they, theyn, thiiuuuuan, thiuan, I'm not, I'm not thiuu. thiuan, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm thiukuke, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I thiuan, thiuan, thiunk, thiunk, thiunk, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, thuncuncuncuncuncuncuncuncuncuncuncuncunc. thuk, thuncuncuncunc. thi. thi. they line up today and then who gets money and who gets power and that's all. And to be honest with you, Duncan, you know, when I watch your show, I like there's a part of me that's like that is so amazing what you're doing because you're

Starting point is 00:12:36 you're doing a different version of what I'm doing, but it's more in a loving way and you are included into the, you know, the reindeer's let you play in their reindeer games. Whereas, you know, I come off as blunt force trauma and I understand that, and it's the burden. I sounds crazy, but I have to accept what I do because, you know, I have two kids I really care about and I care about humanity it sounds so stupid from a Dick Joe comic who flunk first grade that he's

Starting point is 00:13:11 trying to do something that sounds like he's trying to save the world but in my own little way I'm trying to like go hey dude something's happening here we have this really great thing and there seems to be these people help back on changing it and maybe I'm just wrong try to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the th you the th you thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I's thi. I thi. I thi. I I I I th. I I I I th. I th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm the the the thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thing and there seems to be these people hell bet on changing it and Maybe I'm just wrong trying to say people because people get I mean I lose people two ways either politically Or business wise like they don't want to do business with me meaning include work with me on stuff and it sucks It sucks, it sucks, but at the end of the day, I do care. And I'm fine with being wrong. I'm fine. If someone says, hey, dude, this is wrong. I go, fuck, I was wrong, and I'll announce everybody's wrong.

Starting point is 00:13:51 I'm not really in this to be right. I'm really in this to kind of be like, what seems to be going on in the past, it with some very fascist shit, seems to slowly be creeping in here. And we're the frog in the pot. And so that's kind of what I do. And I feel like it's a really tough gig. It can get very lonely. You know, I have Johnny, I have XG, and I love them very much.

Starting point is 00:14:13 I'm very thankful. But I know there's a lot of people out there to think I and it just kind of fucking sucks man because it costs, you know, I don't, you know, I make my money through what I eat what I kill. Yeah. That's kind of all all I got out there. But back to you and why I love your show so much. Thank you. I have my glasses. Thank you. I have my glasses. Thank you. I have my glasses. Thank. Thank you. Thank you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. tu. tu. tu. tu. th. thu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Thank you. I have my glasses right here because I could cry at some point and I'm not kidding because you know as I caught up on your show again you know I got to your mom's episode and I started to cry again you know and we'll get into that that episode a little later but I just want to tell you how important I think your show is. I really do. I feel like you've been doing the rounds talking to all your friends who love you very much and want to get the word out.

Starting point is 00:15:12 I want to focus on maybe something they haven't talked about so that everyone gets a new thing. And I'd like to spend the entire hour slowly focusing on how you prepared to sing on the show. The singing, the dancing that went on at your whole process. Thank you. Basically, this golden voice you have. Thank you. How important it is. Yeah, no one has mentioned that yet.

Starting point is 00:15:39 No one's asked me that. And I've been wondering why. I mean, I, you know, I don't think you knew this, you know, I think some people knew I took some time off from doing comedy. And I had signed NDAs out the ass so I couldn't really say what I was doing, but what I did is I went to Rome and I studied in Rome with one of the great musical instructors, a vocal coach, Leonido Dai Kaluna. Oh, I've heard a lot about this guy's Whispers though, Whispers. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's his nickname, Whispers. But yeah, he, and that's what he does.

Starting point is 00:16:15 The way he teaches you, he whispers in your ear. But, you know, from the scrotum all the way up to the taint all the way back to the taint, all the way back to the very back of the neck. There's like three flaps that can be tightened, which improve a person's voice. It's mostly just surgeries while he whispers to you. And then at the end of that, you've got a beautiful voice, which is what you heard on the show. And I thank you for noticing it, because I bled a lot to get to that point. You know, as you know, I had twins and you're not supposed to allow them to watch television at this age of three months, but I have hooked something else that forces their heads to watch the channel when you start singing because I feel like they need to accept, they need to know what greatness is, okay? They saw their first black person which was Michael Jordan during the last the last the last the last the last the last th. th th th. th. th. I I I th th th. I I th th. I th. I to th th. I feel like they need to accept. They need to know what greatness is, okay?

Starting point is 00:17:05 They saw their first black person, which was Michael Jordan during the last dance, and now they've seen you sing. So I'm like, let's get the goats. You're gonna get the go, your hair, you're in this world, you're three months in, enough with the baby bullshit. It's time to start producing. These are the greatest basest basketballs. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. They's is is is is is is, th. They's is, th. They's th. They's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their th. their th. their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their th producing. These are the greatest. We have the great basketball player and now we have one of the Greatest singers to grace us in a long time So I just wanted to let you know. Thank you almost. I owe a big thank you to the Gates foundation Because they've been the part of the microchip implants that they're doing because you know I get it man. I know and I understand you guys are a little worried about this stuff. Let me tell you something. Having met Bill Gates multiple times, wonderful man. And I get it. Yes, I am chipped. And yes, my biometrics are being monitored. And yes, apparently there's something in the chip called a, I don't know, it's some fancy name. It's essentially paralyzes you. But like I like that. Because, okay, let me do, and I, this is kind of why I wanted to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come. to come. to to to the the. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the because okay let me do and I this is kind of why I wanted to come on your show man okay so my car I I drive stone a lot right

Starting point is 00:18:11 and my car knows when I'm going in another lane and when I'm doing that it stops me from going in the other lane it's probably saved me from at least six mild accidents right these chips they do the exact same thing but when I'm gonna like break the law like when I'm tempted to do to do to do to do to do to do to do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do something to do to do something to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to the to to to to to to to they do the exact same thing, but when I'm gonna break the law, like when I'm tempted to do something that at the moment isn't, you know, going with like the guidelines of the WHO. You know, there's many times where I've just wanted to run out of the house

Starting point is 00:18:37 screaming, and anytime I get right out of the door. I freeze, I fall over, one of the gates friends, that's what they're called, he lives with me now, he's been assigned to monitor me, drags me back into the house, sobbing, and then it releases this incredible serotonin blast, which calms me down, makes me feel great, and if it's really bad, I can't even remember it. So it's wonderful. It's wonderful, it's wonderful, Sam. This new world that we're entering it's great I usually get one you're gonna feel so much better. I don't worry about making it anymore. I'm totally cool that. Your show man to me is symbolic of what we've seen you someone talked about it on the Joe Rogan podcast, your appearance recently, about how people are thirsty for very intelligent content. They want to digest information.

Starting point is 00:19:34 They want something smarter and I can't think of a better way to do it than what your show is. But that also goes back to your podcast has been very much that for a very long time. If not one of the first, I mean, even Joe Rogan's podcast started out him talking to his buddies and just, you know, stories about Brian Kellon getting fingered by men and everybody enjoyed it. But your podcast very early was very much diving into the mysteries of the universe. And it's been a very long journey. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, the the first, the first, the first, the first, the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I the first, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and I, and I, I, and I th th th th th into the mysteries of the universe.

Starting point is 00:20:07 And it's been a very long journey and I think your show is very important for that, Duncan. Well, man, look, I got lucky because Pendleton Ward started listening to my podcast and he's a genius and he like, he had a brilliant idea for a way to animate a podcast that we hadn't really seen. It was kind of a little bit like Dr. Katz, but not with stand up with a podcast. But even not like that, because that's just a dude on a couch. That's just talking with a shrink or whatever. But there's some waking life as an example of it, I guess, but he really had a vision about how to do it. And also, you know, I love that's when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, when I'm, the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to do it. And also, you know, I love this, I, when I'm doing my podcast and the conversations we have,

Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm having those conversations because I'm legitimately interested in those topics. I love the subject of Eastern mysticism, Hinduism, Buddhism, I love magic. I love all of this, all the strange like esoteric stuff that's out there that doesn't make it, usually doesn't make it into the world. At least you have to go looking for it. You know, it's like when I was a kid, when I was, you know, whenever I would go to the library, the public library, the first thing I do is go to like the magic books and read these like grimoires and freak myself out.

Starting point is 00:21:25 And you know people would leave weird little notes in them and shit like schizophrenic like writings like I can turn myself into an avocado my mind is made of snakes. And you go like holy shit this is awesome but I was always interested in that you know and so for it it's a beautiful thing that. Pendleton enjoyed the podcast enough that he like figured out a way, like, he like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. like, th. like, th. like, th. like, th. like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Pendleton enjoyed the podcast enough that he like figured out a way that we could sort of wrap some really big ideas into something super colorful and fun. Because that was, our idea was, you know, we want to show where if you want to like listen to a heavy conversation and hear some like crazy ideas, you can. But if you just want to get super stoned and zone out and just watch a psychedelic apocalypse

Starting point is 00:22:13 happen in front of you, then you could do that too. Or both if you know you could go back and forth. Because you know what I'm saying? Like when I listen to podcast, I don't really listen the way I listen to a conversation. I zone in and out. Sometimes I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to thi thi thi thi to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin thin. the the thin. the the an theanann' thin. the theananann toeanananananananananananananann. to podcasts, I don't really listen the way I listen to a conversation. I zone in and out. Sometimes I'm paying attention when something's interesting, sometimes I'm not. And that's what I love about podcasts. It's no big deal. It's like, it can be background noise if you want it to be. So that's what we try to do. That was the idea. And, you know, and I think the combination of everybody at Titmouse, we figured out a way the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. And I thi thi. And I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thin, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, thin, theeat, thin, theat, thin, theat, I thin, sometimes, I thin, I the an thin, I the, we figured out a way to not be, you know, the word, corrective. You know what I mean? No one likes to watch corrective shit, right? And it would be easy to like put a podcast out that's got topics regarding mindfulness,

Starting point is 00:22:55 topics regarding saying goodbye or facing your own mortality, or all the stuff that's in there, and come across like you were preaching, which is not what we wanted to do. And that the the character the character the character the character the character the character the character th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to watch, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, thi, thi, like, thi, thooooooooooooooooo, like, to, to to to to to to to to to to to there and come across like you were preaching which is not what we wanted to do. We that's the character of Clancy was meant to be like like hope like me or like most people I think which is like he's just a you know he's very um what's the word he's not focused you know what I mean that is a not a focused person he's completely trying to he's trying, he doesn't know what he's doing. He's playing it by ear most of the time, to his, and it's messing up his life. But anyway, we did, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:23:31 That, that's not, that's me. That's who I was over the course of my whole podcasting career. You know, that thing where you're like, I could just fuck off for my whole life probably and be okay. And it's like, no, you can't. Because eventually someone dies who you love. And because you were fucking off, you didn't spend the time with them you needed to, or you didn't say the things that them you needed to. You know that's literally what happened to me, you know? And I think that's something happens to most people. I mean, what are you going to do? Take this shit seriously? You're only here for 80 years. Right? And it's just flies by. Yeah. It just flies by. Why? You know, it's so interesting. I just had a cousin that was almost murdered, man, just almost got murdered.

Starting point is 00:24:26 She's like us sometimes picks the wrong people to let into her life. This guy was, had a past and she looked past it, and he came to murder, and if it wasn't for her neighbor hearing what was going on and calling the cops and coming to help, I would have a cousin that's no longer with me. Wow. Right? And it's like, that's just how, like it's just really, it could be that simple brother.

Starting point is 00:24:57 And you know, and when I found out, I called and I tried to start talking to her. And I was just trying to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to relay to to to to to to her and I was just trying to relay some of the stuff that you know this had all happened before your show came out but things and lessons that you were talking about in your show to her because there's nobody around her that could even begin to talk about you know what we we, I mean, like some of your episodes just, I mean, the one with the guy in the prison, it's just like to me, like, it's so spiritual and it's so deep and it's like, how do you relay that to someone

Starting point is 00:25:37 that's never even understood it, but except for the way that you did it through the show. And the spirituality that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the And the spirituality that you really got across right there, you're like, that we're here to learn. And, you know, we can control our destinies by, you know, making the right decisions. Like, all that stuff to me is like, why this show is so important. Well, Sam, thank you. To talk about that episode, in particular, that idea that you're bringing up, this is so one of the ways that I've heard it is to one of the descriptions of to understand how long we've

Starting point is 00:26:13 been reincarnating as a human being in this dimension. One of the examples given is, imagine every hundred years a dove flies over the highest peak of the Himalayas and the dove's beak is a silk scarf and the silk scarf brushes against the very top of that peak. The amount of time it would take the scarf to erode the mountain into a valley is how long we've been coming back into this particular plane of existence. And so, yes. And that idea, you know, when people think of reincarnation, they really do think about it in a way that is not based on the multiverse. They think of it as though, like, well, you know, you can't reincarnate in the past.

Starting point is 00:26:59 They imagine that you die and you reincarnate after you die in the future. But this is not necessarily not necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily necessarily the case a the case necessarily necessarily necessarily the die in the future. But this is not necessarily the case and also the concept of reincarnation involves an infinite number of various planes of existence, including this one, you know, the animal realm, hell realms, the realm of the gods, all this, it happens in every single level. And so I think one of the things that a huge... That book of the debt, is that what we're talking about here? Like the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff th th th, like th, like th, like thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, thin, the theeeean, the thin. And, theanan, thean, the concept, theanananan, theanan, thea. And, think one of the things that a... Ben Book of the Dead, is that what we're talking about here? Like the stuff that can be learned through reading that book and want that information... That's right. Yeah, to Benton Book of the Dead, a little bit of the Egyptian mythology made

Starting point is 00:27:34 it in there, which is that when you die, your heart gets weighed next to a feather and if the heart is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is heavier is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he th th th th th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. th. th. the he he he he he is he he is he he he is he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he is he he he he he is he he he he he is he he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is hea the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. than you go to hell, basically. Or like, you know, so a lot of different ideas about what happens after you die, but they all fit really well into simulation theory, actually. But in simulation theory, the version of it would be that were kind of player characters that are involved in whatever this quote game is, which would be, you could say it's really more of like a training simulator, that there seems to be some, now this is the best, this is actually the optimistic viewpoint

Starting point is 00:28:10 of it, I could give you the dark viewpoint of it too, but the optimistic viewpoint of it would be we're in a training simulator for young godlings, and that because of the incredible power that we wield being sentient matter versus like other forms of sentience which aren't embodied in the way we are. We can do so much damage and so much good. So before we're released into an autonomous zone as ourselves, we've got to run this thing called our life over and over and over and over again until we stop being selfish cunts. And then at that point

Starting point is 00:28:46 there's this opportunity to transcend and then we're allowed to sort of graduate from the Academy that we all got into and the Academy that we all got into the human Academy is considered to be the like the most incredible birth that if you even get a human birth it's like being accepted into the most hardcore secret society in the universe of all time. And so while you're here, you're being given a class. And the class is that this alien called the universe is forming around you to have this dialogue

Starting point is 00:29:16 with you and the conversation is your life. And it's a lecture, and it's also an interactive lecture and there's tests. And so throughout a person's life you find these moments where all of a sudden you're right, you're with someone who's a fucking asshole who's done something legitimately wrong, that you are right to do whatever you want, to punish that person, to get your pound of flesh, to seek revenge.

Starting point is 00:29:41 But in those moments instead of doing that, you choose compassion. Not idiot compassion, meaning that you let some freak, like, you know, letting like sex offenders out of prison out of some stupid idea that they're like, that's an idiot compassion. But true compassion, meaning that like, whatever your go-to reaction is to like nail somebody in the heart with some dark word or whatever, you don't do that like whatever your go-to reaction is, to like nail somebody in the heart with some dark word or whatever, you don't do that.

Starting point is 00:30:08 And that doesn't mean you, you know, that therefore they get to be shitheads. It's just this concept of like, you don't have to hurt yourself with your own instinctual desire to make people feel bad when they wrong you. And so, you know, that's the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, the idea, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the idea, that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.. they, they, they, they, they, theymea, theymea, theymea, theat, theat, thiooooooomoomorrow, there. And so, you know, that's the idea. We're learning, we're being taught, we're like basically in the very first year of a long, long, long graduate school called, you know, existence. And that's what that episode is about. That's the positive version. The other version is just like class synosticism, which is a little creepy, which is just that like, you know, we're trapped in a, essentially a prison for, for, where we've been completely manipulated and distracted by a constantly transforming demigod called the Demi-Earge. There's a lot of different names for it.

Starting point is 00:30:57 And there's no way out. It's it isn't like it's a fucking academy. It's like we're like little bugs that are under a glass, except we're not bugs, we're humans, and the glass is not a glass. It's like what we think is the real realm? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we're just being held like fireflies in a jar. And anytime you even get close to waking up or gaining noses, that's when shit really hits the fan in your life. That's when things just go south because it's like, you're not, they they they they they they they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. th. th. the. their, their, their, the. the. the. th. th really hits the fan in your life. That's when things just go south because it's like you're not, they don't even let you, whatever it is, you can't even get close to the wall. Like you can't, you can't get, you know, a hundred miles to the wall that you're instinctually trying to get to. Because it's so fucking powerful and we're just, you're easily distracted you know so that's the dark version of it you know you've picked version that Duncan believes a little bit of both the

Starting point is 00:31:48 light the dark what do you what what's Duncan believe oh I you know I well I I think that that's the that's kind of the the brilliant okay so if you go into the either version of these and you just look at it in terms of like, okay, I'm going to, you know, whatever the simulator is, it's fascinating in the sense that it seems to be reflecting my own expectations back at me. So it's like the way the software works in here is not just like we're putting on VR goggles and we're looking at something that's being projected into our eyes. It's like our thought patterns and our expectations are shaping what we're looking at. So we're so it's like this it's a fascinating merging of two things. There's no reality there's only

Starting point is 00:32:33 perception. Is that what we're talking about? What you perceive becomes your reality almost? Well okay so that's nihilism. What you just said there is a form of nilism. In that version of it, it, it's like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's like, it's like, it's like, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thiol- thi, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's a thi. It's a that version of it, it's like, we're essentially like these like, we're, you know, hallucinatory fragments of nothingness that have the sentience and we're just seeing all this phenomena swirl around us. We're organizing it into our, the framework of our lives. And then somewhere in there, it's a really tragic condition to be in in that case. That's the, that that's a really, that's a really, that's a really, that's a really, that's a really that's a really that's a really that's a really really really really really really really really that's a really really that's a really that's a really really that's a really that's a really that's a really that's a really that's a really that's a really thragic, that's a really that's a really that's a really that's, that's a really that's, that's, th.rifying version of it. I call that like malfunctioning universe where it's like the big bang happens. Something just went wrong and it gained awareness of itself and that was so fucked up just because how much that's as lonely as you could be. You're everything and you know you're everything and there's no one to talk to so you just have this massive massive nervous breakdown. And that's the big bang. It's the universe having a nervous breakdown. And every single

Starting point is 00:33:30 one of us are these fragments of the universe's personality is it desperately tries to distract itself from the reality of its complete never-ending absolute aloneness. And so this is the idea of like if you feel lonely, you know, and like I was just watching this fantastic documentary on Fort Chan and on this you know these like fortune, fortune, like I don't know what they're called like. They're basically like a ISIS meets Goths or something like that, you know what I mean? They're like very depressed people and but they're really upset because they've identified that they're completely alone. and but they're as as as th they're like like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, like, like, like, th, th, this, this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th, like, like th, th, th, th, th, th, th is just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi is just just just thi thi thi thi thi this is just just just this people, but they're really upset because they've identified that they're completely alone. But they're associating that with like not having a girlfriend. They don't realize that if you get the girlfriend you're going to feel even more alone.

Starting point is 00:34:14 That's what's so sad for them. They imagine that like, you know, a relationship is going to save them from this suffering that they're feeling or this sort of never-ending horror which in Buddhism is called Duka. So anyway the point is yeah that's a scary idea which is like that if you feel lonely yeah that's the right way to feel because actually you not only are you alone in the sense that maybe you don't have someone in your life right now but you're alone in the sense that once you gain true realization you're going to be all by the the the the the th.. th. th. th. life right now, but you're alone in the sense that once you gain true realization, you're going to be all by yourself. Just one infinite field of sentience with nothing else but you. And that's an alone feeling.

Starting point is 00:34:52 And so that's a scary idea. I don't believe that necessarily, but I have thought that when I've been on a lot of acid. No, I don't think that. I think that it's more along the lines of like a, it reminds me of being a dad. Like I think what's happening is more akin to like, it just reminds me of like maybe the universe is some kind of playroom that we get put into when we're you know, young, young

Starting point is 00:35:16 in the sense like only 13.7 billion years old. Duncan, do you know, the more and more more I talk to people who've the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I've th. I've th. th. th. th. th. th. I've th. th. I've th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. and more I study stuff and the more and more I talk to people who've done deep research dives and They just kind of tell me ancient knowledge and, you know, to me, there seems to be this kind of this movement to teach us what is up is really down and You know, that there's this, you know, the whole thing is like if you're looking into like Satanism, right? That there's this whole thing that we are all got But then you take a look at like Hinduism and like this kind of like Tibetan Book of the Dead where they talk about this is a realm? Like, are we mortal gods? And then where you kind of brought it up that. We're here to learn? the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, thi, thi. thi, th. th. tho tho tho thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the whole. th. the whole. th. th. thi. the whole thi. thi. the whole thi. the whole thi woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo th. th. th. talk about this as a realm, like, are we mortal gods? And then you kind of brought it up that we're here to learn, like these lessons so that we can ascend to becoming immortal gods. And then we see that this has been kind of demonized.

Starting point is 00:36:18 They've taken this, this kind of incredible information, which is, hey man, we're in a realm. We're all gods. And we're learning to control and learn how to treat people to help others. That seems to be the universal thing that we're here to learn. And then you see that they take kind of this like, this, this Saturn worship stuff. And they take some of that, and they throw it in the Satanism, think, think, that, that, take some of that and they throw it into Satanism and they take kind of some of this stuff about us being God throw that in.

Starting point is 00:36:49 Is there this kind of movement to kind of, kind of confuse us on what is really going on? Well, I mean, no, I, first of all, with Satanism, there's so many branches of Satanism that's saying like, this is what Satanism, particularly with Satanism, it's like tricky, because you get like Levian Satanism, you get the Temple of Satan, and they all have different ideas of it. You get a kind of romantic concept as being like a symbol of the Great Rebble. Then there's like, you know, from there you can go like into like people who are into, you know, some form of, you know, magical systems that involve making contacts with like, you know, extra-dimensional beings that some people call demons, but that are really just like, well anyway, we can go on and on

Starting point is 00:37:43 about that, you know what I mean? But if you sort of look across the board at all the different ways that people are trying to figure out what the fucks going on here, you could say that a lot of people seem quite confused in the sense that, you know, it's a, I think it's a natural, I think if you're not confused to some degree, then I wonder how, if you've really thought far enough into what's going on, you know, that it seems like a lot of the, a lot of times it seems like religion in the fundamentalist sense is though, is a desperate attempt to fight the confusion with bullshit. And this is like, Chogim Trump aRimpachay talks about this, which is, people will say things like,

Starting point is 00:38:32 I had an experience that was so powerful, I can't even put it into words. I connected with God, and there's just, I don't know how to describe it. And he said, those people are essentially people who have taken their confusion, put it on an altar and are now burning candles to it. They've gotten confused to the point that they think the confus- They've mythologized their confusion, and they believe that, you know what I mean? They're worshipping, so I think what you're asking is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their, is their, is their, is their, is, is, is, is, is, is their a their a their a their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, theiripping their confusion. So I think what you're asking is is there a concerted effort by groups or factions of people

Starting point is 00:39:09 to intentionally disrupt, confuse, do subversive shit to make people get lost? And I will answer that with something that actually Alistair Crowley talks about. And it's a really terrifying idea. And it makes sense, though. So like there's this concept of crossing the abyss, basically, which is that in a person's life subjectively, you have to essentially let go of everything you understand and have the courage, in Christianity, they call this faith, have the courage to understand that you're a tiny little, tiny little part

Starting point is 00:39:51 of a much bigger thing. And when people get caught up in the idea that they're God, the founder of the Hary Krishna's is divine grace. AC Procti Vedana Swami Prabapat says something quite brilliant, which is, it's like a photon thinking it's the sun, because the photon came from the sun and is made up of the same energy as the sun, but that's not the sun. That's a particle of the sun. Similarly, whatever we are, springs from some initial source, but to think that because you came out of the big bang, that there, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thro, thro, thro, thi, thi, thr-a, tho, tho, tho, tho, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, tho, because, tho, tho, because, because, tho, tho, because, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, the the thin, the thoan, the thin, thin, thoan, thooan, the thooooom. the the, that because you came out of the Big Bang, that therefore you are the sum total of all the energy of the Big Bang right now,

Starting point is 00:40:26 I think it would be ridiculous in the sense that look at me or you or anyone, none of us are a Big Bang. We're very tiny little bangs at best. So what Crowley talks about is that at the very edge of the abyss, there is a something called the lodge, which is a group of people whose sole intent is to keep people from attempting to cross the abyss, using whatever they can just to keep people from experiencing any kind of true spiritual evolution. That's Crowley saying that, you know, thatthere is like, now to bring it into my own life, this reminds me of shitty friends. You know that thing where you find yourself in a situation

Starting point is 00:41:12 and you realize your friends are subconsciously trying to keep you smoking cigarettes or drinking too much or whatever the fuck or like... Or sucking your energy out? Yes, right! I've been dealing with a lot of that lately, a lot of trying to fix crazy with as much love as I possibly can and the problem is it crazy doesn't realize they're crazy. And I am a crazy person so I throw myself into that. Yeah, Yeah, and you can't, the other thing is you can't fit. The thing is like what we have to work on it. This is what Ram does says, we th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I, I th, I th, I th, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri, thri, thri, thri, throoooooo, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thi, you can't, the other thing is you can't fit, the thing is like what we have to work on it, this is what Ram does says, we work on our, like the best thing you could do for the people around you is work on yourself. Forget trying to fix crazy outside yourself, forget it.

Starting point is 00:41:53 It's not going to work, it's not going to work. You can't just give up the time you were devoting to fixing all the crazy people in your life, working on yourself, and you'll get all your energy back almost instantly, because it's just too much work. It's like trying to paint a fucking house that keeps like shitting out the wrong color paint on top of itself, and you're in a war with the house. It's like what are you doing? Trust me, if once you give up trying to paint the house and just the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, the house, th, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thrown, thrown, thrown, thi, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, they's, trys, trys, is is a, trys, trys, trys, trys, trys, trys, trys, trys, trys, is, is, trying to paint the house and just think, you know, I'm going to let the house be this like horrific, god damn orange or whatever it wants to be instead of always being at war with it, you're going to be much happier even though you're going to have to deal with orange. That's what I've learned in my contact with a nefarious sorcerer

Starting point is 00:42:48 who's trying to keep people from crossing the abyss. But I sure as fuck have gotten stuck in the gravitational field of narcissistic, depressed people, who any time you start getting out of their gravity field, they figure out some drama to pull you back in. So as above, so below. If on my level, I've run into people from time to time in my life, that if I hadn't watched out,

Starting point is 00:43:14 I would have gotten sucked eternally and perpetually into their drama cycles, never escaping, right? Then, I would think, it's a safe bet, that metaphysically in some weird level, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, so thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. to thi. thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi, thi, then I would think it's a safe bet that metaphysically in some weird level there might be people who are intentionally doing that like in attempting to keep folks who are on the precipice of realization from gaining that realization by using a multitude of tricks. I wouldn't be surprised. Have I met them personally? Absolutely not. But only because I know that the opposite of those people exist, people who are trying to push people over the

Starting point is 00:43:51 edge for the better. People are like, go! You can do this. You can wake up. You don't have to maintain, you don't have to be stuck so much in this sick, dark people. Yes. Since I have people who like actively want people around them to be free, I assume their opposite exists. I just have been lucky enough to not run into them as far as I'm aware. You are big. Go on XG. I was gonna ask you, so we've had a, you've obviously do a lot of reading and a lot of ancient knowledge. We had a couple people on and you brought up the sun and energy. We've had San Francisco Binachi come on and talk about sunglazing.

Starting point is 00:44:27 Have you heard anything about that? They're not saying like looking strange to sun talking about during the day or sunrise, sunset. Have you ever heard about that? Does that work? Well, yeah, man, I'll tell you dude, I've heard, yeah, that is, yeah, that's........... Yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. Yeah, thi, thi, th. Yeah, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. They, they, th. th. th......... th...... th, th, th...... th. th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They's, th. They're, th. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not, they're they're they're they're they, there's a, you could look it up, there's just in Hinduism, there's a lot of weird shit regarding that. And not just sungazing, like I've had someone talk about you could do the same thing with the moon. It's like, you know, I don't, I would not, I'm too paranoid to do that, but I'll tell you

Starting point is 00:44:57 this, I know that if I don't do that. I know that the just laying in the sun, you know, like it gives you more vitamin D. You know, just hitting your skin as a quantifiable effect that has nothing to do with any kind of new-age woo-woo shit. It's literally if you're depressed and you go lay in the sun, you're gonna make more make more vitamin D and that's going to make you feel better. So if it's going through your flesh, if it's like creating a hormone through your flesh, then why wouldn't it have some effect through the optic nerve? I mean, if you figured out a way, that being said, don't go look at the fucking sun then they burn their eyes out because it's like you know practices they don't they're taught they're like they're they're real practices that I think have within them all kinds of other stuff it's like

Starting point is 00:45:56 psychedelic therapy people really forget the therapy people really forget the the the the the therapy. So they're really really really really really really really really they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they the the the they the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they. they they they they they they they the the they the the the they theapy. So they're like, ah, great, I knew LSD could help me and then they just take acid. There's no therapy. And you know what I mean? Like usually someone who's being taught sungazing or any of these things, they're with a person who could say, you could tell them like, oh, listen, you know, number one, don't just look at the fucking sun. thrown. their. their. their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thirty, thirty, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. T, there's, there's, there's, there's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. Number. total. total. total. tod. today. today. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, their, their. their. their. hold our hands this way or there's breathing ex- I don't know. But yeah, man, I do think there's a lot to be said for concepts that involve there being a kind of what's called prana or a sort of non-embodied energy field that you can tune into and draw into your body and, you know, that probably originates in the sun. You focused a lot, a lot on meditation.

Starting point is 00:46:52 You talk a lot about on the show about meditation being practiced for death. How important is meditation? I mean, there's a lot of ADD out there. It's like, I mean, we talk, I mean, like, if I get this app on my phone and it walks me through meditation, is that the meditation we're talking about? Is that preparing me for death? Is, yeah. What are your thoughts on that whole thing?

Starting point is 00:47:18 I mean, obviously, it's very important. It's a thap, thap, I's a, I's a, I's a, I. tha, I. tha. tha. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a. that. that. that. thi. I'm, I'm a. that. that. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm t. I'm t. I'm tod. today. tot. tot. tot. totall. today. today. ta. today. t't meditated in weeks. I have a meditation teacher who was a student, a Chogim Trump Rimpachet, David Nicturn. Thank God, he's the most patient person ever. And also that's what I love about him. Is there isn't this like, you got to meditate? Where are you not meditate? Where are you not meditate? Even though he he's does does does he does does does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does he does th is th th th th th th th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus, he does thus, he does thus, he does thi, he does thi, he does thi, he does thi, he is thi, he is thi, he is thi, he is a thi, he is a thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he is a thi, he is a thi, he is a thi, he is a thi, he is a thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's a student thi. He's a student, he's a student, he's a thi. He's a student, he's a student, he's a thi. He's a to meditate. So if you're not meditating, then I must not be doing a great job, right? I love it because the patience is incredible. But I'll tell you, when I have managed to create a regular meditation schedule, a few things will happen to me. One, initially I'll realize how much I don't like sitting still.

Starting point is 00:48:09 Now, to go back to what we were talking about earlier, which is like the wall, hitting a wall, if we are in some kind of Gnostic prison, some simulation, it's curious, one of the curious things to me is why is it so hard for a human being to sit still and not do anything except breathe? Why? What is that? Why is that? To me, that's a suspicious thing. It seems to me that in some weird evolutionary sense, there's some benefit to not burning calories and sitting still, that there would be almost like a award system in place for us to do that all the time. But no, we don't like it with a human sit still for any amount of time and immediately like, fuck I gotta go do something, I gotta do some. So now that's curious to me from a, you know, one thing I think that will happen if you start meditating, and the way that I've been taught to meditate is not the app thing.

Starting point is 00:49:08 It's really simple, you can look it up. Google like Chogim Chumper Ribboshe, teaches meditation. It's essentially... Google how to spell that, then Google it. Yeah, yeah, you don't come up. He's awesome, but it's a very simple thing that involves just watching your breath and keeping your, you keep your eyes open. You're watching your breath when you start thinking, you do something called noting, which is you go thinking and then you go back to your breath. And so essentially in this you begin to realize like how chaotic your thinking process and how many thoughts happen every few seconds that like you don't even notice, like static, just always, you know, happening. So in that practice, a lot can happen, but one of the things is you become a little less

Starting point is 00:49:49 reactive to those thought patterns. But more than that, you start really figuring out what the fuck am I, because a lot of people identify themselves as their thoughts. So just getting a little distance between you and your thoughts, you realize that you seem to be something that is a little bit more than those thoughts. Now, I think that there is also an experience of like momentum, of zeitgeist momentum, where you sit down and you feel the entire conditioning program that you were born into trying to keep going while you're sitting still. It's like you've been on a skateboard going a trillion miles per hour into like all the various forms of sense gratification that have been put in front of us as methods to achieve happiness. I mean, look at a fucking Coca-Cola commercial. The implication in a Coca-Cola

Starting point is 00:50:35 co-cola is like the answer to find true happiness or a representative of what, like the peak moments in life. You can look up Gijek's, it's called like ideology of a pervert or pervert. It's so good but he breaks down all the conditioning in like a capitalism regarding so so no you sit down and all of a sudden you're all the fun since you're a kid you've been told like you want to be happy go to Frank's roller skating rink again it's a skating rink. Again, it's Chipotle. You need to have the best phone. Look at these incredible apps. You gotta play Candy Crush and get some new clothes.

Starting point is 00:51:08 And then when you're done with that, you gotta start singing, you get garage band, learn how to sing. And do beats, do beats, stream your beats on YouTube. And then when you're and get the deals. This is a constant, you know, crazy, auctioneer voice coming out of everything, telling us a way to be that's going to make us happy. And then what ends up happening is none of that shit works. And so, any time you get this stuff they're saying you're going to get, you realize, fuck, I still don't feel okay. So meditation, I think, is a way of, as a revolutionary act.

Starting point is 00:51:48 If revolution means subverting the hypnotic siren call of all the, the sum total of all corporations that are inviting you to buy some shit. Because you're not buying anything when you're sitting still. It's boring. And that's what, it's like literally boring. And I think feeling bored these days is a revolutionary feeling. Because it means that you are somehow momentarily resisting all the invitations to distract yourself. And so that's a cool thing to explore.

Starting point is 00:52:24 And that being said, I haven't done, like I said, I don't too, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I fucking, I'm fucking, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'ma, I'm, to, to, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to, to, to, to, to distract yourself. And so that's a cool thing to explore. And that being said, I haven't done, like I said, I don't do it. I fucking hate it. Well, I find it very interesting about how we uh, there's a lot of things that we like boredom, you know, how like, that's okay to be still, you know, to be offended. Suddenly this became the worst thing in the history of time. It's like you're emotionally reacting to some that's that's okay. Stillness, okay. These are things that we're taught to be the exact opposite of. Simplicity. These are things that the society shuns. Everything's got to be bigger, brighter, more expensive, shinier, and I just find it to be an exact opposite of that.

Starting point is 00:53:08 And when you go down to stillness, you know, when the littlest things, like hanging out my daughters, it's like such a spiritual moment. It's so spiritual. But real quick on, if someone was gonna start, like you're not an expert, I'm not saying you're an expert in meditation, but if you said, hey, I want to start meditating,

Starting point is 00:53:32 what should I do? Should I just go in my bedroom by myself, sit my car and clock myself for three minutes to five minutes of just focusing out, close my eyes and listen to my breathing? Is that what you think? Would that be a suggestion? Yeah, well, okay, so, the way I've been taught to do it is, you, if you have a bad back, you could sit on a chair,

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Starting point is 00:54:51 they call like the warrior pose, actually, I believe. And it's not like warrior like we think. Because in this teach, in Tibetan Buddhism, the idea of a warrior means, you're feeling everything. You're not, a warrior is like, heart is completely open, your heart is completely shattered, it's broken, you're feeling everything, but that being said you're not like reacting to it. You're not like completely fucked by that, but you're not just trying to evade what is. So that's it, you're sitting with a straight back and if you're sitting on

Starting point is 00:55:23 the ground get a cushion on your ass because your legs are going to fall asleep probably. So you want to get a little lift up so that your hips are up a little bit. Otherwise your legs are going to fall asleep. And that's the other thing. If you've got an itch itch it. You're not doing an endurance contest here. There isn't like I resisted wanting It's your face. Then just go back to like watching your breath and it's not spiritual breathing. You're doing what you're just

Starting point is 00:55:49 watching what you're doing all day long. My watch it you mean focusing right? Yeah. You're just focusing on your breathing. That's it. Yeah. And this is called a gentle touch. So it's like the idea is like your focus is on your breath and it gets compared to the way like a butterfly lands on a flower. So it's light. So you're just like lightly watching your breath. You're not doing deep breaths or big breaths. You can't if you want, but really just watching your breath and then as you're doing that, thoughts will appear. And when the thoughts appear, you go thinking. You don't say it out loud. It's called N-O-T-T-IIIII-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I, and th- th, and it is th-in, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and it is th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th-in, and th-in, and th-in, and th-I's-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I'm th-I'll thiii. So, so thi. So, so thi. So, so th-I's th- It's called N-O-T-I-N-G, noting, thinking. And so then you go back to your breath. You could do this for three minutes, five minutes, ten minutes, twenty minutes. You know, 20 minutes is a great amount of time to do it and it might, and if you start

Starting point is 00:56:37 feeling so bored you want to kill yourself, remember that's in you. You've done nothing except sit still. The meditation did not make you feel bored. That's in you already, and the reason you might be doing all the shit you're into is because that feelings in you and you think that stuff acts like a fire hose putting out of fire. When it really is a fire toll with gasoline, it just makes the fire brighter and brighter. So this is the practice of mindfulness meditation as Chogim Trum-Trump Oremptoshay teaches it. And that's pretty much it. As far as the people who are like, man, I don't have anywhere to go, I'm in fucking quarantine. This is a safe, this is true. But, bathroom. The bathroom.

Starting point is 00:57:21 The bathroom becomes your meditation temple. If you're in a situation where people are walking in on your ass in the bathroom, I can't help you. But like, go in the bathroom, turn on the shower, if you're in a situation where you're with people who are going to make funnier or whatever, they'll think you're taking a shower, sit on the bathroom floor and just do this. That's a way that you could do it without being disturbed. If you're in a place where you can't find like 10 or 20 minutes to like do to not be bothered. And so that's it. That's pretty much it. Hey, real quick, Duncan, can I ask you about transcendental meditation TM? Because you hear from proponents of TM that doing it improperly is almost, there's a suggestion that

Starting point is 00:58:01 it's almost like dangerous. And that you need to pay this fee and go to one of the courses and you need to keep paying the fee and get your mantra this secret mantra slip to you. What do you think about that? Man I never did it I have friends who do it and they swear by it and they never were never were like culty with me like you got to go buy your mantra. I mean obviously anybody who hears that probably has a natural sense of like, wait, what? You have to buy a mantra? Like, you mean a word? Like, honest to God, like just from a dark, skeptical level, and again, let me really reiterate,

Starting point is 00:58:34 I have friends whose whole life has been transformed by transitantal meditation. So if it's judge a tree by its fruit, that mantra must be worth what they paid for. Because, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, than, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, throan, throan, throan, throan, than, than, than, than, thanree by its fruit, that mantra must be worth what they paid for. Because, I mean, literally, like, they've become, they report, not just like feeling better, but like their acting's gotten better, you know what I mean? And it doesn't look like they're getting harassed. It's not, you know what I mean? Like you go in and you do whatever the fuck it is you're doing, you get your mantra, and it seems like it does something. I don't know. My contact with mantras has been through the Ram-Dos people. You know there's already a lot of mantras out there that aren't secret. Like, Rom. Rom. Rom. Rom.

Starting point is 00:59:16 Montra meditation is, I guess you could, if you wanted to compare it to what I was just talking about, you could say instead of your breath, you're focusing your attention on the mantra. So now, and people who do mantra meditation walk around and stuff, that's kind of one of the cool things about it, is that it isn't, you don't have to like create this space where you sit, still, you could do this shit all day long, the today, the thrara, tha, thrara, thrara, thrown shit, thrown shit, thrown shit, thrown shit, thrown shit, thrown, thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and thrown, and their stuff, and their their their their, and people, and people their people their, and people their, and people their people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and people, and their, and people, and their, and their, and their, and th........... th. And, and people, and people, and people, and people. thi. thi. thi. their, and people, and people, and people their, and people their, and people the. thea, and people who's, and people their, and people who's, and people who's, and people their, and people their, and people you're talking. Like right now I can talk to you and kind of hear, rom, rom, rom, rom, rom. So yeah, T-M is definitely a mantra meditation, but I guess they're claiming that their mantras have some specific potency related to the individual,

Starting point is 01:00:00 and everybody has a good mantra that works for them. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, too, thi, too, too, too, too, too, too, toa, toa, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, is, tom, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is all, is all, is all, thei. tom, thei. tom, tom, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, too, tom, tomorrow, tom for them or something. That's guessing. Asked a different way. I mean, I know you're in contact with a lot of people who practice other forms of meditation. And especially the teachers of those forms of meditation. What is the reputation of TM among them? Have you had those discussions at all? No. Honest to God, no. Like they don't, I'll talk to David, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoomomatsoomatse, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tooomk, tooomk, tooomk, tooomk, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, too, tho, tho, tho, tho, too, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom., toooooomooooooooo, too, the guy I work with him and ask him what he thinks about it. I mean, you know what's so cool, like the people that I know in those communities, man, they really don't, most, there doesn't feel like there's that thing of like, this is the

Starting point is 01:00:34 way. In fact, what's so funny, the Ramdos people, on one side of the fence, you have people who practice Bacch yoga, which the the the the the the people, you have people, you have people, you have people, the the thia thia thia thia thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the people, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that's people, that's people, that's people, that's people, that's people, that's people, that's, that's, th.... th. th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the people, the people, the people who thi, thi, the people who thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, which is this trying to fall in love with God. It's a, it's, it's something, you could call it eternalism. It's this idea that there's, you know, gods out there, and that you can love and that will, all this stuff that people on like the other side of the scale, like Zen Buddhists and stuff, who's saying there really isn't anything. It's just th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, thi, thi, they, they, they. It, thi, they. It's, they. It's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thri. It's, thi. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a they. It's a thi, it's just this ever-changing thing. There's nothing for you to really sink your love hooks into and if you're doing that you're kind of confused. These retreats they would always bring both of those camps together and it was the and they always they disagreed but they didn't disagree because

Starting point is 01:01:17 they were both somehow connecting to it something some some identical thing that was taking on these different forms. So, yeah, man, I don't, if you're wondering, if you have someone you know is like having a rough time with TM or something, I've never heard that before. And I haven't heard anyone really talks shit about it. Also, David Lynch practices it. And I fucking love David Lynch. Yeah, he's probably my connection to it, their biggest connection to it, my biggest connection to it anyway. Although I do have a friend who practices it, and like you said, they love it. Anybody I've talked to about it loves it. But I've seen a, there's a little bit of an expose online that you can Google it and learn some things,

Starting point is 01:01:53 but I don't know. Anyway, I just saw it. Well, you know, man, it's like, well, people will pay for for hand jobs. People will pay for the the the the the tha tha tha tha to to to to to the the to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tok. toke. toke. toke. toke. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. toe. toe. tol. toe. to to to to shows. People will pay for trainers at the gym. People will pay for all kinds of shit out there. Like when I'm going to like the gym and I get a trainer, I don't like scoff at him because he's making money teaching me how to do bench presses. But somehow when it gets into like spirituality, everyone gets all butt hurt. Well I think it's because they've be abused so many times by tel- evangelists and proselytizing. Yeah, yeah I think that's it. There's not wrong making the money but there's some people who pray on the week when I think we're all talking about a televangelist not necessarily spiritual meditation people. Well discernment is key man I do thii. I do think that there is a response but thia thia thia thia thia that. that. that is a that. that is a that. that. that. that. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I do thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. There is that. There is that. There is that. There is that. There is some that. There is some thi. There is some thi. There is thi. There is thi. There is a thi. There is a thi. There is a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I didn't just stay with that doctor. I went and looked at a bunch of different doctors

Starting point is 01:02:47 Man, I wanted to make sure that I the reports were correct before I got my ball chopped off. You know what I mean? Like it's a big deal. It's like if you're getting you know you there are charismatic people out there who are having manic episodes and they they think they're Jesus. And they they will get they will get your your your your your your your your their their their their their their th th their th th th their th their their their their their their their th. their their their thi their their their their their thi thi. thi. their thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. their their their thiiiiauuuu. their their their their their their their their their their having manic episodes, and they think they're Jesus and they will get you they will get your ass If you're not careful you do have to have discernment man like and if you're getting some weird feeling If something's off if like if you're starting to get this weird sense they're trying to fuck your wife You know what I mean if you're getting some odd feeling eventually we'll try to fuck your wife that seems to be what the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their? their? their? their? their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their teea tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. their their their te to fuck your wife. That seems to be what the theme is, right? Yeah, it's like, I mean, I like, look at that Waco documentary, man. Like, David Koresh was saying he was taking the burden of sex on himself. Meaning that you didn't have to fuck your wife anymore, he would fuck her for you. Oh, dude, how nice is that guy. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi is thi is the is the is the is the is the is the is the the the the the the the the is the is the is th. the is the is the is the is thi is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is the is the is theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeememeeeeemeeeeemeeeemeeemeeemeeeeeemeeeeme is the for you. Oh dude, how nice is that guy?

Starting point is 01:03:45 What a nice guy! And what's crazy about it is that guy was so charismatic and so powerful, and I bet when you were around him he had a legitimate energy field because there is a thing called Bob is what it's called that you can learn to generate regardless of your morality. It is not based on whether or not you're a good or bad person. You can just generate this shit in the same way you can get abs. And so people get confused when they run into that. And they think that because this person has a radiant field around them and there's a tendency for synchronities to happen around this

Starting point is 01:04:19 person, therefore they're right about everything. And this is just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their their their their their their their their their their their their their right right right right right right right right. Therefore, they're right about everything. And this is just not the case, man. So it's an individual's responsibility to be discerning when they come into contact with anyone claiming some lofty thing. Whether it's TM, whether it's David Koresh, I don't give a fuck who it is. I couldn't, can't agree more, dude. You know, when I was watching that Scientology Doc that HBO put out, or I was just watching it.

Starting point is 01:04:45 And then halfway through I'm like, these people are idiots for, like falling for that. I mean, like, I understand that the need and the desire, especially when you move to Hollywood, there's this kind of thing where you gotta be part of a group to get like breaks in Hollywood. There's this notion, right? And these people join Scientology because they want to be part of something. But the stuff that was happening, you're like, common sense will tell you, this doesn't

Starting point is 01:05:15 make it, but you're blinded by the hope that this leads to your dreams, right? It's kind of crazy. You have to, if your spider sentences tingle, you got to listen to it. Yeah, and you should be with a person who you could say, hey, you're not try to fuck my wife, are you? You should be with a person that you could just honestly say to them. Hey man, I'm getting weird vibes. What is going on? And like if you're with a person who you say that to them and they get all offended or they're like, you know, this is because you are still asleep and don't understand any of that bullshit, run. But hopefully you're with somebody who's going to say to you, oh man, I'm sorry. You know what I could see why you would think that. And like, you know what I mean, that's cool. I'm that you. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all they're all they're all. Oh, they're all they're all. Oh, they're all they're all they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're they're they're they're they're they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all. they're all th. th. th. thi. th. they're all th. thi. they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're allto hump your wife. And at least, you know what I mean? At least didn't.

Starting point is 01:06:06 He's like, okay, that's cool. I get it. You know, because, but you know, I'm sorry to give you the wife humping, what husband humping, whatever. But like, you need to, or you know, my, the people them in countless ways. Like in the beginning I was saying the worst fucking things that I could think of not out of some spiritual sensibility but just being like man I wonder what it looks like when this guy gets all offended

Starting point is 01:06:32 and but her and they would usually just laugh or I'd say to them things like man you know like this guru Nimkrola Baba come on. Weren't you guys just on a bunch of ass in India and met somebody who like kind of like, you know? And like, do you really believe these miracles happen? And they could get this big song and be like, yeah, I see why you think that. Because they, because like, you know, they had encountered something real. And because they'd encountered something real, there wasn't insecurity that goes along with people who haven't encountered something real. It. And. And, you. And, you. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, you. And, th. And, th. And, you, you, th. And, th. And, you, you, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, you, you, you, you, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, there wasn't the insecurity that goes along with people who haven't encountered something real. It's kind of like, you know, it's like, fuck, what are you going to say? Like, I know, you, listen, I know why you would think, there's no way

Starting point is 01:07:11 I ran into somebody who loved me more than anyone I'd ever met before and also could read my mind. Why would you believe that anyway? That's not something necessarily you should believe right away. It's that it that it that it that it that it that it that. It's that. It's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not something necessarily you should believe right away. It's profoundly, profoundly strange. And so but because they've encountered it and not just encountered it in little doses, but like sitting in front of a nuclear bomb, there's not, with them there isn't a, there isn't that insecure need to be like, don't ask those questions. It's more like ask the questions. Even better, we'll put you on stage in front of the entire retreat, where you can ask the questions.

Starting point is 01:07:50 That's what I love about them. That's what they did to me, really. I find it very interesting. We have, you know, whether it's Bigfoot, aliens, ghost, there's so much skepticism. And even when given a photographic or video proof, just people don't want to believe. You know, it is my belief that the laws of physics were made to keep us within a certain realm of believing a certain group of things,

Starting point is 01:08:21 and that anything that falls out of that is this kind of supernatural is instantly dismissed. I'm on the podcast. It's fucking idiot. What is instantly dismissed? And that's great. We just got a photo bomb by coked out fucking Eddie. I dig Eddie. That's dismissed. But there is this realm of amazing stuff

Starting point is 01:08:45 that happens outside the laws of physics. That science can explain. Yeah. That is like so much, to me, is what the real, the amazing thing is, like, what this thing we live in. Hey, hey, Dunk, can I ask really quickly, as far as you know, is there anybody like that out there now performing miracles? I mean, when's the last time we heard of someone like that?

Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, there is. Really, I mean, like in India or in America, where? Well, you know, man, I, like, you can, like, one of the things is like a lot of these people they just What's so funny is they really don't want I don't think that they they They don't there's like there's like I think an understanding that they there's the miracle stuff is great The miracle stuff is a byproduct of something I think it's like's like the way like, you know, if you like, it's like sweat if you're running or something, except in this case you get miracles around certain people. There's a lot of people, a lot of the Tibetan Buddhists, um, you know, again, this is, this is secondary information

Starting point is 01:10:08 from people that I trust. Do you think every religion has miracles? Because you hear all of them, Christians, Catholic, oh, there was a miracle here. Does every religion has its own miracles at one point? Yeah, man, I do. And I think miracles are, like a, miracles are like a, miracles, I'm trying to think of the way to put it. When you experience one, there's, it's really, within the miracle I think is the, in the way like his chef, you know, has a specific way they cook food. Or an artist has a specific way they paint. Within miracles, you see like this, like, sort of, I don't know how to put it, like a signature, you know, has a specific way they cook food, or an artist has a specific way they paint.

Starting point is 01:10:45 Within miracles, you see like this sort of, I don't know how to put it, like a signature of some kind of vast intelligence, and that's the, or a sense of what this is, what this thing is we're in. And what I've grocked a little bit is just that it's very polite and it's completely aware of the fact that like some people aren't ready for this shit man like saying. I'm saying real quick are you saying that it's the same intelligence coming through each person as like a portal or are you saying it's unique to each of the people who can do miracles and these kinds of things? Yeah, I think it's the same intelligence, actually. I think that it's sort of like, you know,

Starting point is 01:11:27 the way Ramdos talks about miracles is, you know, once you get to a certain, once you begin to really wake up, you everything is a miracle, you start seeing the miracle that you're already in. I mean, that's the thing is we're in a the thing, we're in a the thing, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in a the thing, we're in a the thing, we're in a the thing, we're, we're, we're, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing...... the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing. the thing. th. tha, thi. thi. that. that.a. thi.a.a.a. tha.a.a. the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way, the way even if you look at the most scientific materialism, we're in a spontaneously created universe that bound itself together and they turn dirt and water into things that are currently driving around in cars and making spaceships. We're in a miracle. It's the most, just the optic nerve is such an incredible organ.

Starting point is 01:12:07 The fact that we can transform photons into light is, and forget the fat, imagine the photon itself. These things are apparently growing in the mantle of the sun for like 50,000 or a million years or some shit. Then one of those photons comes blasting out of this sun goes to the earth and our eyeballs literally eat it. This is a we are living in a miracle but because we're living in a miracle it doesn't seem like much of a miracle at all. So we don't appreciate it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But that being said, this desire all of us have to see something real to finally get the veil lifted up up the the the the the tha the tha tha tha tha tha tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the. that. thate. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to, theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea. theea. thea. thea. this desire of the longing all of us have to see something real.

Starting point is 01:12:45 To finally get the veil lifted up a little bit so that we can look and see something, something that we know instinctually is there. I think it's a very sweet longing and I think anyone who has it should listen to that and not write yourself off as being some kind of like delusional, you know, naive idiot. It's real. But I think what because it that we, at least from my opinion, I don't think we are the only things out there in the sense that I don't think we're just like some god hallucinating our lives. I think that there are things that are far more intelligent than us that have benevolent aspirations for humanity itself. Uh that they recognize that, you know, the way my teacher puts it is this, we do this in real time, meaning I always am wanting him to tell me some shit, you know, and I've, and like,

Starting point is 01:13:35 I'm always wanting him to demonstrate this or that, I'm always wanting him to like, you know, I'm always wanting to see the things that I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theean, thi. thean, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,the things that I've seen in the past, you know? And what he always says is we do this in real time. This is where we're at right now. You know what I mean? How are we going to like start doing like, I don't know, some of the Tibetan practices, like they can apparently launch their astral body out of the top of their head and like astral project while they're awake. they can melt snow. the the they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. thus. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, throw, throw, throw, throw, throw, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, th. How, the, the, thin. thin. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, melt snow by heating their body up when Hof style or all kinds of crazy shit. How the fuck is he going to even come close to teaching me that stuff if he can't get me to sit still five minutes a day? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:14:13 It's like, it's something. It's like, first, you know, the idea is like let's just do the miracle. Let's just do the miracle. the miracle, the miracle, the miracle, the miracle, the miracle, the miracle, thuicicicicicicicicicicicicicic, th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th, th is th is th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th see if we could do that. That's a miracle. If we can figure out a way to sit still 20 minutes a day, that's a miracle. If we've been running our asses off all day long every single day. Those are true miracles. And then maybe if those, if you start doing those things, maybe you'll start getting whatever the next lesson is in this strange university that we we we. Real quick, Duncan, I know we, you know,

Starting point is 01:14:46 I just want to end on something real quick that, you know, the episode with your mother really affected me. If there is any honoring these award shows, I don't know any episode that deserves some kind of award for its impact, it's impact, man. It really hit me hard. I was sitting with my kids and, you know,

Starting point is 01:15:12 when you were going through, you know, Duncan, you and I have a very interesting relationship because when we see each other, it's like, you know, I was South Korea, you were North Korea and we were, we were siblings that they just broke off, and then suddenly we get to see each other again, and we're so excited, and we love each other. Yeah. When we go our separate ways,

Starting point is 01:15:31 we may not see each other for a little while, we may not talk to each other for a little while, just, and now we both have families and you know, Our journey together has been pretty amazing without you. I would not be at the comedy story. You know you you gave me these The key you broke down like you basically told me how what Mitsy's looking for you've had a humongous impact in my life You see me go from this kind of like out of control drunk crazy person to this kind of spiritual person to whatever I am right now. I don't even know I'm just who I am. You know, wonderful person. I would describe you as a wonderful person.

Starting point is 01:16:12 Thank you, buddy. But I remember going through all the stuff with your mom, and it was really heavy on me because, you know, obviously it was much heavier on you. It's your mother. We hear it through the episode. You know, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, th, and I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. to th. to to, to thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. to me, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. thr. th. And, th. And, th. It's your mother. We hear it through the episode. You know, and I remember talking you about it. And your reaction to it was like kind of shocking to me because you would, you were like basically saying that you were happy that it was coming to an end. And I couldn't really compute that, man.

Starting point is 01:16:38 It was very hard for me to understand that because I just, you know, I couldn't do that with my mom. I would, I would be, I would be a basket case. But you, you know, you were like, man, oh, I'm happy it's happening. It's like, she's been in a lot of pain. It's like, let's get this over. What those were your exact words, but that was like, the feeling that you would express to me at that moment. And you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th. And, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're, you're, you know, you know, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th........... And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th that, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, when your mom passed, I sent you a text, and it was like, hey man, I'm glad your mom died.

Starting point is 01:17:08 And without a doubt, it is like the one like joke that I like, I wish I'd never. Ah, tham. I wish I'd never said. Oh, brother. Because it was really bad and I really hated it. And, you know what, when I watched your episode, which I'm sitting there with my kids and it really like, he hit me pretty hard.

Starting point is 01:17:35 You know, before the show, I was catching up on the episodes and he just like it was such such a deep episode man. Really affected me, you know, I'm sorry about that joke and it was really fucking bad. Ah, Sam, I love you. Man, listen, you and me, as well, I have friends like you, I have a few friends like you. And what I love about it is you and me, you will not talk forever. But then when we do connect, it's like we haven't been a part at all. I only have that connection with like a few people in this dimension.

Starting point is 01:18:10 You're one of them and I love you. You're like a brother. And also my friend, I am friends with comedians. And if you think that's the only joke text I got when my mom died and you're tormenting me yourself you forget we come from the comedy store brother I I understand that the intention behind you that text I was not offended for a second I understand the intention behind whatever the fuck are he sent me which I can't remember the intention behind any comedian that sent me a shit a shitty thing I know what was behind that that's love and I know that if like comedians are sending you those texts and moments like that, all they're saying is I love you and I don't know what to say. So I'm gonna try to do a joke. I knew that's what's behind it. Like yeah, did like I laugh at that or whatever like honestly. I didn't I didn't I forgot it because I didn't. I didn't. I thr-I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I t. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I love the the th. I the the the the the the the the the the th. I love th. I love th. I love th. I t t th. I t t t t t. I t. I t. I try. I try. I try. I th. I try. I th. I try. I try. I try. I try. I tell. I try. I try. I tell. I love. I try. I love. I try. I love. I love. I th. I love. I love th. I th. I th. I it, I didn't even, I have, I, I, when I got cancer, you just seen the fucking

Starting point is 01:19:05 text I was getting for people and all of them, many of them were like dark, shitty text, but I knew behind it is just love, man, this is that, this is one of the way comedians, you know, express affection for each other and know, and someone outside of the world comedy might not ever understand that and I don't ask them to to th th that them that th th that tham that tham tham that, tham tham that, I tham tham that, I tham tham that, I that that that that that that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I'm that, I that, I that, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I thi, I thi, I thi, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm to to that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm thi, I thi, I thi, I don't ask them to. But man, listen, Sam, you, no, thank you for your apology. Apology, fully accepted, and I never once thought to myself, that mother fucker, why would he send that shit? And also, I did express that to you, man, because when your parents have been dying for like four years straight, and you're watching them begin to fade away. If you, there, and this is a lot of people who are struggling with parents who have a terminal illness.

Starting point is 01:19:50 One of the things they have to reconcile with is there's a part of them that wants the process to end because not only is it like tremendously emotionally painful for you, it's hurting the person you love the most, who you don't want to see to see to see the pain. pain. pain. pain. to see to see to see to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the pain. to to the pain. to the pain. the pain. the pain. the the the the the the the's hurting the person you love the most, who you don't want to see in pain, who you don't want to watch slowly turn in to a skeleton. You don't want to see that. You don't want to watch their skin change color, and you don't want to see them with a shaved head. And so you know that at the other side of their passing is going to be peace and healing and they know that too and my mom knew that too and to get back to this concept of meditation being the practice for death this really is I think the way my mom passed away is a

Starting point is 01:20:34 testament to a lifetime of having a spiritual discipline because when we did that podcast that was like three weeks before she passed and you it's maybe two and you could see how focused she was and you could see how loving she was unbelievable unbelievable and you know this is sometimes when people come to the end of their lives they don't have they don't they're unable to let go it like that in that graceful way and that's okay what it's not like a Olympic competition we're not giving gold medals out for how people fucking die that being said we all love our family so that if you could find a way that is your body is beginning to shut down that you could give love to the people around you because

Starting point is 01:21:23 the weird I think that's one of the predicaments dying people find themselves in, is they're more comfortable with the fact that they're dying than the people around them are. And so suddenly they end up having to be grief counselors for their family. You know, and so I think they're preparing for that moment and understanding yeah, and you think that everyone's going to be coming to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tyingying.auxxxxxiiiiaguiaughia.a.ia.ia. Ifeck. Ifeck.com ofgiagiauiauiagia'a' their's going to be coming to your deathbed and you're in comforting you. No, no, no, no, people are going to be coming to your deathbed and you're going to have to comfort them. You're going to hard, only hard on the living. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and so getting like now like getting into a place where we can sort of, you know, be still or finding just some way to not be reactive, I think just for that alone, and especially now that both of us are dads, I know that when I pass away, I want that experience to be as peaceful and comforting, and I want my son to know that it is possible

Starting point is 01:22:18 to let go of your body in a way that isn't traumatic. And, you know, that's one good reason to do the practice, you know, the other reason is what they say in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is if you drop your body and you're all freaked out, then it's a really, it can be a rough ride to the next incarnation, you know, so you want to enter into the Bardo state in between this incarnation in the next with a little bit of calmness, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this incarnation in the next with a little bit of calmness, you know, because you're probably going to get ripped apart by demons. Also, let me just finish on this. Let me just finish on this. This is one of the tripiest things, man, that I found out. And if any Tibetan Buddhists are out there and this is offensive or I'm wrong, I apologize,

Starting point is 01:22:57 but I did get it from great sources regarding what happens. So this is really trippy dude. When apparently the last phase of dying in the Tibetan Book of the Dead is that you see a like various couples fucking. Yes dude I told my girl about that about our kids man. I talked about this all the time. But wait, hold on I don't know if you knew this part of it. Here's where it gets weird. You, I used to think you see people who the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th, th th th thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii, their, their, their the all the time. But wait, hold on, I don't know if you knew this part of it. Here's where it gets weird. You, I used to think you see people fucking and you're running away from demons and you run into the people fucking to try to like escape from the Bardo state. But the idea is you see P all it's essentially you're looking at like ex hamster.. you're looking at a porn the same the same the same the same the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. to. to. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. to. I. t. It's.'re looking at a porn screen and you in the same thing where you finally pick the porn you jerk off to, that's how you pick your parents! Yes, dude.

Starting point is 01:23:52 I talked about that. I had twin girls picking the fact that I was banging the mom in the car as she's called the Edword. That's what they picked. I, isn't it, the, th, so, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, 't it the but it's so like it's the most bizarre thing when you realize that when people who are looking at the people looking at porn are it's like technologically recreating what happened to them just before they incarnate it again that's what I'm

Starting point is 01:24:18 wondering if this is why people are so into porn well sometimes it is sometimes, unless you get pregnant. It's not like a... Hey, so I just want to end it on this, brother, is that I was moved by your mom. I never knew she was that spiritual and walked you through that stuff and it was an amazing episode. And Duncan, the show is very important, man. And important man and the other time I've been that movie is when I went and saw the Book of Mormon live and the reason that moved me was because it's like this had this had so much important information and it was done in a way that it got people

Starting point is 01:25:02 laughing and slipped in the truth and that's that's exact what your show does man it that's what your show does Sam this is why this is this is this is this is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thus thus the thus their their their th. their thus thi thi thus thus th. th. th. thi thi thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the other the other the other the other the other the other the other their their their their their their their their their their their their th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thooooooooooooooo. thi. thi. thi thi thi. that it got people laughing and slipped in the truth and that's that's exactly what your show does Man it's that's what your show does Sam. This is why we are similar man and and and I think this is why we're gonna be friends for the rest of our lives and And so brother man, it's so nice that you're signal boosting me on your show. I really appreciate it. Thank you. I love you. I love you. I love you. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. to the to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the show. th. the show. the show. th. the show. the show. th. the show. the the th. the the the the the th. S s s s s s s s s s. the the the the the the the the the the thi. S. S. S.this so much. I love the show. I love you very much, man. And it's just, people don't realize, man, like where you were and where you are, just to see this show like, like Joe Rogan said, it's the most Dunkin Trussle thing you could ever see. And it's like concept of reality. I, you know, and, and to leave, and to leave, and to leave, and the, and the, and to leave, and the the the the the the the to leave, and leave, and the the the the to leave, and, and, and, and, and, and, the to to to to to the, the, the, the, th.. the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, I, I, I, I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to, I'm, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th you know, and to leave it on this, the show grew from the doctor drew up so which was excellent to like your mother's episode was just a growth,

Starting point is 01:25:52 a beautiful growth, and it was fun to see it, and it was fun to see the show, hit it stride, and to see that your dad right now, if they cut one of your nuts off, you still was a dad. I'm just so happy for your brother and it couldn't happen to a better person. Brother, thank you Sam. Thanks all of you. It's great. See you see you talk more man. All right, your roommates are invading your space. Man, it's a real fun hanging out with y'all and hope everybody. Your show was great. So I posted it on on Simple on the Instagram page and a lot of people were like, dude I was

Starting point is 01:26:27 on Shrooms, I was unedable out and I did not expect hit and like we just talked about. Thank you man. Thank you. Thank you so much. Johnny, thanks man. Thanks for listening. We'll see you soon. Enjoy your life. You're beautiful. We'll talk to you soon

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