Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #317: Life, Death and Everything in Between with Bob Nickman

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

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What is it? What is it? Nickman, NIC-K-M-A-N, you know that. God damn it. I can't even get my friend's last names right. But you've screwed up a lot of names. I screw up Bob Nickman. Okay, Bob Nick. Can we add that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. to get. to get to get to get to get to get to get. to get. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. names. I screw Bob Nickman. Okay, Bob. Bob Nick. Can we edit out please? Please welcome my good friend, Bob Nickman.

It's such a big part of the show now that dude. Hey, you got my name right. Thank you. thank you, Bob? How are you, Bob? I love you very much. I know I've fucked your name in virtual Hawaii, which is Santa Monica, and I set up a nice background

because you mean a lot to me and I wanted you to feel comfortable and tropical. Bob, you are part of this group of guys on the West Side that are like such good people, man, and you're always, like, I don't wanna get too much into your personal stuff, because I don't know what you want to say, but, you know, you help everyone around you, including your neighbors, you go out of your way, you run a giant show in which you raise money for, you know, sobriety centers all throughout Southern California. And it's like, you're just a good guy, and I'm really thankful that you would come on my show dude so I appreciate you man. Thanks man and thank you for for having to be on the show

and let me just say that yes I do all those things that you mentioned and it's because my default setting is is selfish so I have to go against the way that I really am in order to you know have a productive life. Contrary actions. I'm life. Contrary actions, right? Contrary actions. I'm Mr. Contrary action. Dark, negative Bob is the default settings and I've had to, I've had, that's my biggest thing to overcome, the negativity and dark thinking.

Bob. I know you know what that is, sir. Yes, dude, I live in the darkness. Bob, you know, one of my favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite favorite the favorite the in the darkness. Bob, you know, one of my favorite quotes from, lines from a movie is, Waiting for Gutman, and you know, we just lost Fred Willard, right? Which is super sad, and like, you know, obviously,

one of the last things we've ever heard from Fred Willard was him getting arrested at the tee-k-bar, beating off in the adult bookstore, and, which sucks because the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy bar, beating off in the adult bookstore, and which sucks because the guy's 70, something at that time, and he was beating off in the place you're supposed to beat off it. It wasn't like he was at Burger King or anything like that. That's what you go there for, and he obviously has a wife who never leaves her house, so he could never get on his old ass computer computer and watch his like 70s porn so he went there but he was one of my favorite lines from Waiting for Guthman which he was in was when the one actress goes you know

she's been learning improv and she's getting better at it because she's learning to not trust her instincts those that's such a great line when it comes like sobriety and all that stuff is like, learn to not trust your instincts when it comes, you know, doing contrary action to what, you know, this thing inside you is telling you to do. I, completely, and I was talking to a guy yesterday about making a list of his belief systems And because I did that a number of years ago and I still do but you know I I the things I used to believe about myself were so off and so not accurate that I really learned to not trust everything that I think and I used to believe everything I thought I go I'm a smart guy if I think it it must be true not so Sam not so

hey you know Bob there's also something and I'm really excited about this episode because you know it's one I'm really trying to help people start to realize that they control their destiny and one good thing is like you know thoughts aren't real they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they are they are they are they're they're they're they are are they are are are they are are they are are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are to to to to to tr tr tr true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. I true. I they are they are they are they are they are to realize that they control their destiny. And one good thing is like, you know, thoughts aren't real. There is no person, there's no reality, there's only perception. And you know, and I know we're not supposed to get into, you know, the traditions and we're not supposed to talk about that much, but what really helped me was being able to write down kind of like all the people I thought

that had wronged me. And when I really went through with the right people, they kind of show me that the one common denominator in all that was me. I'm the common denominator in all the chaos that happens into my life. And the blessings are, you know, my father, he's in the the the the the one, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, their, their, their, their, the chaos that happens into my life. And the blessings are, you know, my father, he's in his mid-70s, he's not in the best shape, he's got diabetes, he's an old lion that refuses to change his style. But I'm so blessed that he was my dad,

because I got to learn from his inability to look inability to, uh, look inside himself for where he is in his life, you know, and that to me is so important, like, you know, it's like, then the reason I bring that up is kind of along the lines of what you were talking about, it's like, there is no reality, it's your perception. What is going on around you, okay? It's what, what you believe is happening, forces the reality reality reality reality reality reality the reality the reality thiae is thiae is thiae is thiae is thiaeateateathea. thiiiiiii. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's toeateathea. toe. toeat. toeatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. to be. to be. to be. to be. to to be. to be. to to be. to to to that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe.? Is what you believe is happening forces the reality. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like if you're only focusing on the negative stuff, all you see is negativity.

You know, that's true. And I, you know, I'm an expert in negativity. And the thing is, it, the thing that was really hard for me, and it still is sometimes, it feels more correct than positive thinking. And what I realize, it was kind of an armor and a safety issue. It's like if I think negative, then if anything good happens, it's just, you know, gravy. And if I think negative and shitty things happen, then I'm like, all right, told you. And so it's a way to protect myself from getting hurt and being disappointed.

And very unsuccessfully, by the way, because then you're walking around all mopey and you, and people don't want to be around you. So it's bullshit, you know, but yet it felt more real. Now, Bob, tell us about your podcast. Well, this is why I started this podcast. So the name of my podcast for anybody that wants to take a listen, it's called The Exploding Human with Bob Nickman. And it's really about, and the sort of tagline is Explore, expand, and explode.

So when I got sober, almost 35 years ago coming up, I started to do all these other things to, you know, reprogram my brain and take care of my body and do spiritual things that were recommended to me. And so I started to, you know, I changed my diet and my, and exercise and I did talk therapy and I did different types of body work, hypnotherapy, all kinds of stuff just because I was super curious. I figured, you know, I took a lot of chances with drugs and alcohol, why not take the ultimate chance and go inside and see what actually comes out. So I started to do all these things and 30 years later I went, that's a really

a podcast that I would listen to. I didn't have any guidance for people that were sort of presenting to me the types of things that were available as human beings to for personal growth. So, from a dark negative guy, I'm really, it's all about learning, growing, expanding, trying to figure out, you know, what is this thing? And, that. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiii. thiii. thiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th, expanding, trying to figure out, you know, what is this thing? And how do I make my life and other people's lives better? I love it, dude. I love it. And these are the episodes I want to do for people. There's a group, small group of people listen and they're like, this isn't conspiracy and I get it, man. But sometimes, you know, know I got a break out and just you know because I want

to give freely to people what was given to me you know and you know I talked about this on the past episode you know I have family members that really traumatic shit is happening to them and they have no one around them that can explain this even this little conversation we've had so far about like about you are not set in stone your there is no reality what you perceive as your reality and you just have to change the way you view the world and how important that is and how important it is to you know it's like you know I go up state New York and I try to find some meetings to go to and I know we're not supposed to talk about it but but I'm just to you you you you you you you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to to to to to to to you are you are to you are you are you are you are you are you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. to to to to to the. the. the. the. their it is to, you know, it's like, you know, I go up state New York and I try to find some meetings to go to

and I know we're not supposed to talk about it, but I'm just talking about like, I try to find therapy and a like-minded tribes and it gets really hard, you know, it's almost like you go on these kind of, you go on, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, I....... I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I, I's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like, like, like, um, you go on, it's like, it's like I'm Frodo from Lord of the Rings and I have to go to Mordor to find a fucking somebody that I can talk to, they can understand what's going on in my head. And I feel for these people. It's so hard. It's so hard to tell somebody, you know, to find somebody in thinking. You got to change the way you view the world.

And that, like, I tell people, man, dude, you just start, and this isn't even about sobriety. This is just about just your mindset. And it's just like, if you just give yourself a chance and take contrary actions and every day just work on yourself. Your life can be completely 180 in a 365 days. One year from now. You could be living a completely different life. Absolutely. You know, it's really about recreating and creating from here forward and not attaching to your story, which is the past. You know, and yeah, lots of crappy shit happens to people. And you were talking about trauma in the beginning of that little speech there. And that is a theme that comes up a lot in my show.

No matter what, which practitioner, which modality I'm talking about, most of it comes back to trauma. And, you know, I'm going to talk about a book book the book the book the book tho tho the book tho the book to to the book to to to the book to the book the the tho tho tho tho that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the the the the that's, the the that's, that's, the that's, that's, to, to, to, to, to, tapapea.ea.ea.ea. tapea. tapea. tra. tra. tra-s traugheck. tra, tra, tra, tra-s. traugheck. tra, tra, tr. trueuea, true about, most of it comes back to trauma. And I'm going to talk about a book that I read called, The Body Keeps the Score, and it's by, he's a leading psychiatrist at Harvard Psychiatric. His name is Bessel van der Kolk. I don't know, I've never met him or anything, but he talks about how when a trauma happens, let's say as a kid or even as an adult, it lives in the body and then it gets retriggered and you feel it and you live it almost the same on a visceral level.

Yes. I know like, just this is a tiny one for me. I don't know why this happens, but if somebody pokes me with their index finger in my chest, I go fucking crazy. It's like I'm going to be murdered and I have to defend myself. It's only happened a few times. I don't know why that is, but there's an invasion, invasive feeling that makes me go absolutely nuts.

I had a couple of comics do it over the years and I would fucking go nuts. And I'm, you know, I'm a little tiny guy and I don't fight or any of that stuff. I don't like it. I'm scared of violence, but that would do it. Tiny little thing, but. Do you think right now with this whole crazy time, the kids are gonna have this new type of trauma or anxiety with this whole mask going on,

people going to be new type of shit going on? Because I mean, we've never seen this. I of course there is, you know, and I have, I'm going to plug an episode. I have an episode with fairly recently that I did with a therapist named Alan Liebert and we talk about global trauma. And that's that's what he talks about. The results of isolation, of feeling alone, of being angry because you can't do the things that you were doing. There's a lot of stuff that's, you know, we're going to see after this, that is going to affect people, and you know, there's, you know, I was saying, you know, a lot of people, this is a good example, and this is kind of a depression, a lot of people, said, oh, I'm quarantine, I'm gonna clean my garage.

And they don't do it, and then they feel bad about themselves, but it's like you kind of look at it and you go, fuck it, man, it's hopeless, I'm not, why? Why should I? So there are sort of depression pieces to it, there's anger, there's a lot of stuff with this, you know, and it it it it is it is it is it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, and it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it, and it, and it's a, and it, and it, and it, and it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it is a global, it is a global, it is a global, it is a global, th......... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi XG, you know, when I talk about my family, not having anyone to talk about, you know, we joke about you being Mexican, but you are kind of first generation, man.

And, you know, the people around you, are you? I mean, what is, when you try to take this way of thinking to your, your friends, your community, your neighborhood? what their, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, and, their, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, the take this way of thinking to your friends, your community, your neighborhood, what's their whole feeling on that? Do they, do you ever have a conversation with anybody? And you know, I love Mexico. I'm not trying to say, you know, they belittle anybody, but you know, it's like I'm from upstate New York, and which is a lot like where you're coming from, and they're just, they're good, they're good, they're good, they're, they're, they're, their, their, th........ I, th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. I, th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th...... And, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, t. And, t. And, try, try. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. to. And, to. th. And, th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, they're just they're good people they're they're simple and I don't I know No one ever talked about this in my family about about about you know dude nothing's real you have to change your mindset.

Do you ever see that in your community at all? Trauma doesn't exist like there's no like you know how you guys there's people that you know a PTSD? Mexican doesn't have PTSD. we never went to work, you tell someone like oh that guy has PTSD, and then would be like, what do you mean he wakes up off care? Like this is just something that they don't go through anxiety. If I tell my dad, oh, people smoke weed for anxiety. He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? They just want to be high. Yeah, yeah, they just they just just just just just they just they just they just they just they just want they just want they just want they just they just they just they just they just they just want they just want they just want they just want they just want they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they just they they they they just want they just want to to to to they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they just they they they they. Yeah, they don't. You think my dad would ever listen to mom and go to therapy? Hell no, it's just part of not going in. And it's just, mental issue that people in Mexico society, they don't believe. Yeah, I mean like, try to tell a Mexican about his son.

to be a training. Well you know he's just going to tell him. Yeah, I mean what's so interesting XG is like if you actually take a look at when California was voting on gay marriage, the biggest demographic that voted against it was black and Latino Catholics voted against gay marriage, which is crazy because again, I drive through trans area and they're all black and Latinos. That's a big denial right there.

It's just, you know, cultures and subgroups, you know, they, people don't want things to be true, so they make it not true in their minds. And we're seeing it all the time, you know, with the government and all that kind of stuff. I don't want this thing to be the way it is, so it's not. And what makes me sad, Bob, is like, it's so hard to reach out to these communities with this amazing gift of like spirituality. They have their church spirituality and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not the biggest organized religion guy but I'm really into like spirituality and connecting with other human beings. I get called right-wing all the time.

It cracks me up because I couldn't be farther from that. I'm on no team, I'm on no wing. I don't care about groups. I just, you know, but when I go to, I go to group therapy stuff, it's mostly white people. There's not a lot of diversity in there. And it makes me really sad because, you know, when I sit in these group meetings, I think, how blessed am I that for an hour? I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi I thi I thi I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I'm thi thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi throeeeeeateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateatea. I thi thi when I sit in these group meetings, I think, how blessed am I that for an hour? I get free therapy. I can talk if I want to, but I don't have to talk. And I can listen to people who have gone through common things and see, you know, and

I just wish people would start to like, I wish we could all connect some more and talk to people and get people out of their mindset. You know, everything I ever learned in recovery, Bob, is the exact opposite of what I see, social justice warrior shit, which is blame everybody else for your problems, you know, this group hate, all these people out there hate me. And I like, I just learned through recovery is like, nobody cares about me. And I don't mean that in a negative way.. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, th, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, th, everything, everything, everything, th, everything, everything, th, everything, th, everything, th, th, th, everything, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooo, thooooo. I thoooooooooo. Everything, th. Everything, th. Everything, th. Everything,there hate me and I like I just learned through recovery is like nobody cares about me and I don't mean that in a negative way everybody else is just white knuckling their shit. Exactly and you know everyone has pain and everyone has struggles and it's it's invisible when you see somebody walking down the street you don't really know what's going on with them. But sometimes when you you put a little crack in there and start talking about something just a little

bit, you see a light come on with people. And that's one of the reasons I wanted to do this podcast to give these ideas to put them out there. And if somebody's listening, they go, oh man, I'm a sex addict, I'm a drug addict. I have trauma tra tra tra tra tia th, I have th, th, I have th, th, I have th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I have th, th, th, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, addict, I have trauma, I have PTSD, maybe I'll find out more. And, you know, it's really just about curiosity and some of the, you know, some of the subgroups of the culture and different groups haven't, you know, evolved to that yet, but that doesn't mean it's not going to happen because it is. It's just one of those things that I think is, you know, I like to believe that as a planet, and there's a lot of evidence against this that we're evolving spiritually.

And there's plenty of evidence against, but I think it takes less people who are trying to evolve to a higher place to counteract some of this negative and blame kind of stuff that you're talking about. Yeah, I just and it's again like I mean it's love everybody it's you know it's just like I I've just and I'm I have a lot of false man believe me dude I don't come close to walking on water I'm not trying to say I should be anybody's you know role model in any way possible. I have done a lot of crazy stuff there's stuff you know my children coming in any way possible. I have done a lot of crazy stuff. There's stuff, you know, my children coming into world, that story pisses a lot of people off.

There's a lot of people that have expressed to the other person in my life how not happy they are with that. So I am not a moral compass for anybody. I won't fuck anybody out of a dollar. Money doesn't mean anything to me. You know, me and the guy on the street that's homeless, when we both check out, we check out with the exact same amount of money, zero. We have nothing. I think if people knew how much, how little people talked about them when they were gone,

it's a very famous quote. If people knew how little people talked about them when they were gone, they would care less about their legacy and they would show more love to people, and they would care more about friends and family and fucking reaching out and making a difference to those around them. And that to me is what's the most important thing in the world. Some of the most miserable people I know are the people who have the most money in the world. And it's just like, I wouldn't want that in a million years, man. Me either. And you know, there's only two things wrong with money, not enough and too much. And that isn't my quote. I read that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that's that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm thoes. I'm thi. the most. the most the most the most the most. the most. the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. the most. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. their. their. their. the their wrong with money, not enough and too much. And that isn't my quote. I read that in a Charles Bukowski book.

Man, what a great. But there's a wonderful thing that I read, it was, I think it was a Buddhist thing, and they talk about life being this very smooth lake with no ripples, and somebody die, and somebody on fairly insignificant dies, you throw a pebble in, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it insignificant dies that you throw a pebble in and there's little little ripples and it it gets smooth pretty quick somebody important dies you throw a boulder in the waves are bigger and it lasts longer but very quickly in the especially in you know when you think

about time that also smooths over it's the same thing you know the pawn and the king go back into the same box at the end of the game. So, you know, it's really about, for me, what it comes down to, and, you know, I guess it's when my parents, both when they were passing away, it all came down to, I love you. That was it. It was all about being kind and and love. And that's one of the things that their deaths taught me was that. That was it. That was all that was there. So you got to, you two are a stand-up comic and you're in writing and what made you basically do your podcast? Why about health? Well, actually I was writing on, on, on, um, on, uh, what, uh, what, what made you? What the mind? Well, I just, I actually I was writing on on Mark Merrin's show,

Marin. Oh, that's great. And I had, I knew there was a million comics that had podcasts and I thought, I'm not going to ever do that. And then, when I started to see what they were and, you know, it's being around Mark, I thought, man, you know, what would I want to do? Because that's an interesting thing. And I thought, well, how about this stuff

that I've been studying for 30 years? And, and, you know, meet with these people and see what they have to say. And actually, the first thing I did was I met with a guy who does end of life palliative care hospice stuff because I wanted to start at the end with death. And so I've done a few things about death, which I'm fairly fascinated with. For sure. The veil between life and death is pretty thin if it exists at all.

And then I did things like, you know, sex addiction therapist and a hypnotherapist and different types of body workers. I interviewed a couple of people that have overcome challenges, like a friend of mine who was on psychiatric meds for a lot of years and was really depressed and suicidal, and he was able to get off of them. I'm not saying anyone can do that, but he was able to do that. And it's a pretty interesting episode

for people that are struggling with depression, which is pretty common. And so, you know, I've done- What's your thoughts on depression, man? What, like, it just seems like it, maybe we're just talking about it more, but it just seems like it's more widespread than I've ever seen it before. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I don't, you know, I didn't, I have some in my case, it was a chemical thing. So, and then I, you know, after many years of being sober, I started to get depressed and it was like, you know, it was like, in my case, it was a chemical thing because I was doing all the right shit Exercise meditation working with other people. It just something happened. I started to turn into what the way my dad was and I went to I went to my doctor my regular old family physician. This is an interesting Diagnosis. I said, I'm not like I don't want to kill myself. I'm. I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. tole. too. too. too. too. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. like, I don't want to kill myself, I'm, you know, but sometimes I just sit in a fucking chair and I don't want to do anything and I have a really hard time experiencing joy.

And I want to experience joy and my life is really good and I don't. And he goes, oh yeah, that's called Anhedonia you ever heard of it? No. Look it up man, Anahedonia. It was actually the original name for Annie Hall the film. Annie Hall was Annadonia Woody Allen. That was the original title for that but yeah. That makes sense and I I would say that he probably has that if you know, you know, absolutely. You've know you've know me a long time Sam you know I I kind kind I that I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that that that that's that's that's th. th. I th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.'ve known me a long time, Sam, you know, I kind of have a face that that is kind of stiff. It doesn't, you know, I don't, I don't like animate very, very easily. It hurts sometimes to, oh, and I love to laugh. I love comedy and I love being around people and enjoying that, but, you know, joy is so elusive to me.

And I realized later, you know, my sister had stuff, my dad, and so there's some genetic component, but I also think there's a spiritual disconnect with a lot of people. They don't have a purpose. If you don't have a purpose, how are you not going to be depressed? And I also think like we're and you know here's because this is a conspiracy podcast I'll get into my whole theory is that there is a lot of programming that we do to our children that does not lead to anything in the real world and that we're so, we so want to make sure that our children's childhood does involve the trauma that we had in our childhood.

That sometimes I think there might be an overcorrection going on and we oversell them on idealism and we sometimes don't give them realism and that I think that has been done on a very large level purposefully. Now just this is my thoughts so that when they hit the real world you know they fracture and they run to pharmaceutical drugs to numb them out because pharmaceutical drugs are legal drugs so they're not harmful like street drugs. Street drugs, you do street drugs, you're a bad guy, you're a scum bag and you've got to go to jail, but if you do pharmaceutical drugs, if your drug dealer isn't on the corner or he is

on the corner but it's a pharmacy and he's wearing a lab coat, not a fucking trench coat, you know, you're not a really a bad drug dealer. And that, there, and there's nothing wrong with getting on pharmaceutical. I will never tell anyone not to do that. If that's something that can help you, then you do it, but this push to believe in idealism, like, when I watch like what goes on it, like, these college campuses with how these kids think they could treat somebody who doesn't see the world the way they see them. You know, Berkeley we're seeing like speakers causing riots at school.

I mean, Bob, we're talking about people in their prime sex and fun years are like rioting and starting fights and screaming. I'm like, dude, these are your best. These are meant to be your best years. And you're like, you're, and you're spending them trying to burn your campus down because a conservative wanted to talk. And it's like, my question is, where does that way of thinking fit into the real world? Where do you? I don't.

Yeah. I don't know. But, you know, some of it is this idea that, you know, everybody has to get an award and kids have to be taken care of, you know, with kid gloves. I mean, you know, being, you know, last on the team picked is not necessarily a bad thing for later in life, you know. And, you know, the whole sort of process, the way it's set up with school, it's a lot of extra pressure. And my kids are under so much more pressure than I was. But, you know, it's the idea is, you know, work really, really hard, get really good grades so you can get into a good college where you work really, really hard so you can get out

and get a really good job so you can make a ton of money and then here's the false part so you can be happy. So everything is balanced ahead of a pin. Yeah. Yeah. It's so true. Everything's about something that's gonna happen down true. Everything's about, everything is about something that's going to happen down the line. Yeah. Yeah. No, did you ever have a teacher or anyone in your life growing up? Go, let's live in the moment?

No, that's what I'm saying. You know, what's, what can we, how can we feel good? You know, my best experience in school was in second grade? I had this teacher. She was a chubby, she th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, did, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Did thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, did you thi, did you thi, did you thi, did thi, did thi, did thi, did thi, did teacher. She was a chubby lady really sweet, Mrs. Kushner, no, Miss Kushner, and she decided to churn butter. And she brought this hand butter churn and we put the cream or whatever the crap you put in there. Yes, it's cream. And we sang a song like an old-fashioned farm song and shook this thing and passed it around and we were laughing and just doing this very simple task and we made this butter and then we put it on this fresh bread and it was the most impactful learning moment for me as a kid. It's what I remember from all of elementary school. That and pissing on the walls in the bathroom because it was funny. No, but you're right Sam. I'm, I'm, I'm, um, um, I'm, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, um, I'm, um, um, um, um, um, um, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, um, th, th, th um, th um, th, th um, thum, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, and pissing on the walls in the bathroom because it was funny.

No, but you're right Sam. I'm well, I'm all, most of my friends have graduated from college. I'm like 27, they all graduated, they all have debt, but none of them have a house. And most of them, that career that they got, they're maybe interning or or something. Back then at 27 either you had their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thus, thus, thi, thi, I, I'm thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I, I, I, I. I. I, I. I, I, I. I. I, I, I. I. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi. And, toa, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th at 27, either you had a house and let's not talk about the greatest generation. They had a gun and army, they had a purpose in my life. They're like, I'm doing something, even though it's scary as fuck, to be in World War II, you come back with, I did something. What are these kids doing? They're working at McDonald's? What purpose is that? And now they can getting into like the effects of this virus.

I wanna get into that real quick, but I wanna stick on to what we're getting into with school. Like, I mean, here's what I've learned about school, man. If you really, I studied, you know, I was a real troublemaker in school, like a real troublemaker. I was around, Peg, trying to get into a square, you know, and it would just, it just didn't work man. And there's this reward and punishment system that goes on in our schools

and you get really pounded on if you don't follow the rules. And you get rewarded when you figure out what the teacher wants, what the principal wants, and you do that, and they put you on a list, and they tell you how great you are, and it's just like it's set to crank out people who follow the rules. And like people who don't, I spend my entire fourth grade in detention I mean lunch detention the entire fourth grade Mrs. Bacon who I have nothing against basically took my lunchtime and made me sit in the hallway and I had to

pay because I just didn't play by the rules and I don't hate teachers we don't pay them enough to put up with the BS but man the system isn't set up at all for anybody to think outside the box and it kind of sucks man to be like... but at the same time Bob I feel like there's more hope than ever for people like look at you man you were writing on the show now you got this podcast. That was impossible 10 years ago. No, it's fantastic. And it's just like, we just, I just can't get any, I just, all I want to tell people is like, man, you can do it. The difference between you, the halves and the half-nots is the haves did it.

They tried. They just stuck through it, even when it looked like it wasn't going anywhere. They stuck to it. It's like, Bob, and what are your thoughts on this? Like, how many people just take the first exit off the highway? Yeah, I know, right? You're like, I'm not doing that. I remember taking a test, it was like a, a apta, a apta, a apta, a apta, a apta, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, tape, tape, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, ta, ta, ta, like, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, t, t, t, t, t, t, th.a, t, th.a, th.a, t, th.a, t, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a, t.a, t.a, t.a, t.a, th.a, t.a, t.a, t.e. ta, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. today, today, t. t. t a test, it was like an aptitude test for jobs. And they, this was in like seventh grade, like, fill this out, we're putting you on a college track. I'm 13.

Yeah. And I like, I don't even know what these are. And obviously comedian wasn't on there, writers are, you know, none of that shit's on there. So I picked engineer. I didn't know what it was. I just checked that off. It was one of the, it literally was a box to check. And they're like, okay, well, these are the classes you should take in high school to

become an engineer. And I knew I wasn't ever going to do that. It was like, get this paper away from me and they have they have those tests to determine your your you know your strengths and you know what career but the careers you know aren't they're narrow there aren't there aren't there aren't enough of them yeah there's like 50 of the tops is way more than 50 jobs yeah and none of them are like fire spitter, rakey master, you know? Right. Neighborhood ninja, like all the crazy shit that you might want to do.

I just like, there's just so many, like the beauty of Reddit is that there's so many subredits, like, you can find your tribe. Exactly. That is the beauty of, and the power of social media and the internet. It literally has shrunk the world and you can find your tribe and create your own tribe too. That's the part I love about that stuff. You know, it's just, it's just the possibilities are so vast to reach out and find people that think like you do. I mean, God, can you imagine just being somebody, you know, I mean, you hear about it all the time.

I was a creative person in a small town and I got picked on and called weird. You know, and some of those, yeah, right? That is me. My friend in high school, I had one girlfriend, the entire high school, no two. And they both lasted for about a weekend. And they both, and then they both booted me to the curb and nothing happened. And it wasn't until I got to college that I actually became like, somewhat who I am now, you know, and it's just because in high school, funny isn't attractive.

I had a girl tell me that, you know, if I didn't know you, I thought you were, you would, you were retarded. And I'm like, oh, well, I guess that explains why this isn't going well. Um, and like now it's just like the blessing is like, and I'm just blessed that, you know, Bob, you know, you are too, you are, you..... you, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you are, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you are too that, you know, I'm in my late 40s, man. I'm just lucky I'm able to catch this revolution. There's some people who like just, they look at doing a YouTube channel, like the way my grandparents looked at, looked at an answering phone, like it was the devil. They're like, I'm not gonna put my voice on that, then they're gonna have it. And they wouldn't even use a voicemail, an answer machine. Yeah. But here we are, we're hustling and taking chances.

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Bob, what were you gonna say? I agree with you. I don't remember, but I was just, I just loved what he just said. That was great. You know, I love the idea of possibilities. And that's, you know, and there's so many areas that that we that we that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th a th a th beauty of living in this in this time. To me, it's like, put on some great music, turn the lights out, lay down on a nice comfortable mat, and let your mind go and think about what you want to do.

If there were no barriers, none. That's it, man. That's it, Bob. Yeah. That's a great thought, man. If there was no barrier, if there was nothing, if, if, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, if th, if th. th. th. th. th. their, that, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their their their, their, Bob. Yeah. That's a great thought, man. If there was no better, if there, if there was nothing that could hold you back from living your dreams, what would you want to do? And because the illusion is that jumping into the, you know, the comfortable slot, the one that's laid out for you, the box to check is safer.

But it isn't. It's limiting and it's just as precarious as taking the chance. And taking a chance this might be a little more work in the long run, or in the short run, really. But trying to fit into, you know, I use the word corporate mentality, you know, that's a recipe to be miserable. And unless you're somebody that loves that ship, then go do it. Yeah, some people are spiritual BDSM masters, right? They're just, they just want their soul to be the Gimp and take a beating, dude. That's just it, man. But here's the thing.

Now, if you do this, this is a guarantee you're going are gonna come true no because guess what as you do this your dreams are gonna change but you know it's it's like what Chris Rock once said man if if if his car breaks down he tries to wave people down most likely people won't stay stop and help but if people see him pushing the car they'll get out of the car and try to help him push the car that's what people did and that's the universe as well right I mean that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th th th that's th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. that's th. that's th. th. thi thi thi thi. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. I thi. thi. thr-I thr-I trooo. true. true. true. true. true. true. true true throoooo-I threeea. thre thr- push the car. That's what people do. And that's the universe as well, right? I mean, that's kind of how I learned. That's kind of what I feel, Bob. That's kind of how I see the world, man. And it's just like, those who try to help themselves,

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kind of job that you find something that you're even more passionate about. You don't know. It's all improv. It's all fucking improv. And it's okay, man. It's okay. The, what's it? The admission for success is failure. I mean, like, and the blessings for me is I got my dick kicked in very early and I just got really numb to like feeling bad about myself failing, you know, and I would just get these little victories why my friends were getting giant victories, but they were enough victories to keep going. So now here I am I got this show that I love so much that like I can't tell you how many people hit me up going, hey do I love your show so much I started my own show. Yes. Yeah well you help me you help me man you push me to expand what I'm doing which is you know thank

you for that. Well I love it Bob and I think you know because I like dude my friend told me his story and I'm gonna have him on the show and I've gone around and told people the same thing was told to me and and you know yeah I'm getting my kind of some shit from the tech companies but that's okay because I I just like I'm just so grateful to what I did you know I this guy Scott DeGrot was on the show uh he's from the woke societies and he did show, his actually show was like the last show before YouTube started screwing with the channel. And he was one that we did Project Looking Glass. And I remember when he came on the show, when I looked at his video, I mean his setup,

I'm like, is this guy like, is this guy like a podcasting from a meth lab? Like what is this, Breaking Bad? And, but you know, and it was a fun episode and he did a great job. Well, we just did a Patreon two nights ago because he's been getting messed with on Spotify. And dude, when he came on, the guy, look, the vibe was so different.

He now had 35,000 subscribers, and he was like in a groove, and he was just a different person and I couldn't be happier for him And guess why he lives in the middle of upstate New York He's not in New York City. He's not in LA. It's just a dude who just put his nose down and wet and grind it And that to me is Bob still was okay. Yeah, I walked out to pee then I came back. I do that to people this is the number one podcast for taking the piss. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I????? to th. I? I to to th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. to th. th. to to to th. th. the thi. thi. th. to to to to to to he hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. he. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toda. today. today. he he he he he he he he to me is Bob still was? Okay. Yeah, I walked out to pee and then I came back. I do that to people. This is the number one podcast for taking the piss. I just wanted you to know that. More people pee listen to this podcast than not.

You, my friend, mentioned death. I am very, very, very, um, I just, I don't know, I think about think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I th know, I think about the topic all the time. I remember having a, when I lived down the street from the studio, there was a woman who lived with us and she, she'd found out that the cancer got him really bad and they gave her a very short time. And I wanted to ask her, what are her thoughts? What's her thoughts on death?

And you know, you've done some episodes on it, Bob, you know, we're talking to Duncan Trussle. He had this amazing episode. And I don't know if you've ever been able to watch the Midnight Gospel on Netflix. It's a game of change. Well, you've got gotta watch it, brother. You gotta watch, and the last episode, if you don't cry, you're not alive, man. And literally, you're just like, and it's basically he interviews his mother who has since passed. And it's a very powerful thing, you know, when we were talking about, and it's like, you

know, death is really hard on the living. And it seems to be like, this things that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that everybody that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's like, that's like, that's like, to be to be to be like this things that everybody's so afraid of, but I don't know why. I'm kind of sad now because I have two kids and I know it's going to be hard on them. Hopefully they haven't cut me out of their life by the time I get there. But you know it's early on, so we'll see how it goes. But you know, I, Death, what have you learned so far on your podcast, interviewing people and your thoughts on it? Yeah, you know, it comes up a lot, which is an interesting thing. The, I'm going to tell you a couple stories that, that transpired. And the one thing, you know, let's just start with my dad when he was, he knew he was going to be dead soon. He said, he was thiii. And I said, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you thi, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. thi, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th really scared. And I go, what are you scared of? I, you know, because we were just talking, he said that it's going to hurt. And I said,

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on what happens when you die, Bob? Well, this is something that happened to me when I was, I remember my birth, I'm gonna tell you this, and I don't remember it like, oh, you know, I'm coming out of my mother or anything like graphic like that. What I remember was, and I knew this all through my childhood, so take it or leave it, whether you wanna believe it or not. It's a knowing that I have. And it was this very sort of violent, sort of, not a negative violent thing, but a very energetic push from a dark

place to some place else. And a second of being really scared because it was very intense. And then this internal smile and the words, oh yeah, this again. And I was laughing, like, in the tel thi to it, like, thi. th it, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to thi, to to to to to thi, thii, to thiiiiii, thii, thi, thi, ththen this internal smile and the words, oh yeah, this again and I was laughing like internally. So that's an experience I had when I was born that I assume, you know, I can't prove it. Yeah. So I've always had that. So as I was doing my podcast, a number of years before I did the podcast, I did a series of hypnotherapy sessions for, you know, just to do them. Curiosity, wanted to do it. And I kept asking this woman, she gave me this book called Many Lives Many Masters, which is about a past life regression, which sounds like, you know, when I first heard it, I go, that's fucking bullshit. But then I read the book, it was really interesting. I said, I want to do one. And she wouldn't do it. Finally she did. And I went back, she took me back in time, and I was in like a place like Mesopotamia or something like that, you know, like

some sort of Middle Eastern biblical kind of place and they have she had me looked down at my feet and they were in sandals and I was in like this robe and there was a war going on, it was sort of shadowy, not very graphic or clear and and I remember I was some sort of a scribe of some kind, some sort of a intellectual or some shit. And I remember going out into the public square and being terrified of the violence, and I've always been super scared of violence. And going, this isn't the way to go, don't do this. This is, and nobody was listening. And then she took. Don't do this. This is and nobody was listening and then she took me out of that into the next life and I kind of went into the universe. And when I came out of the, I don't remember that one at all, and when I came out of the hypnosis, and I was aware of all this because hypnosis is not some kind of thing like bark like a dog. It really is you're very aware. It's a very relaxed state. And I came out of it and the first thing she said to me, she goes,

isn't death not a big deal? And I go, you're right. It's not. It was like so nothing. It was just kind of fun. It was like, oh, I'm going to do this again. So I've done, and I did another past life regression about a month ago with a different person, and that was a whole other thing where I was a woman in that one in in like Germany, Austria kind of area, and I had a husband who was, um, had a disability and I had to work really hard and it was just, and I even had a name that came up. It was really interesting stuff. I, I, I, I, it seems like, you know, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's their, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th........... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. up. It was really interesting stuff. I, I, it seems like, you know, there's so many possibilities. What's the process that they do for that? It's, well, it's just very, it's hypnosis.

It's, it's, it's relaxation techniques to get you into a, kind of an altered state, but a deeper state. It's into the unconscious, but you're very aware. When you do that, do you feel the emotions that you would have felt? I mean, do you feel some almost like a memory? Like my question is, if you, do you, did you feel what it was like to be a woman? I mean, I know that sounds a little silly, I mean, did you feel like some kind of feminine, I'm not trying to make a joke here, did you feel? No, no, you're not.

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accident with a friend. And the friend was okay, you know, hurt, but not. And he was, he's been paralyzed from the neck down. And he became a financial manager. And he did pretty well, but he, the whole timetime he was because he was so, you know, disabled, he went inward a lot and he has researched all this kind of stuff. You know, he's super intelligent and the kindest guy. And so he does these and he would probably do one with, I don't know if he would do it on the air with you. I think he probably would. I think he probably would. I'm in, dude. Put you into, put you into a state of relaxation. You, you. the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the th, the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the thi. the the thi. thi. the thi. the thi., I think he probably would. I'm in, dude. Put you into, put you into a state of, you know, relaxation. You could chop out the, you know, the parts that don't work, you know, at the beginning probably as you're going under, but maybe not. And see what happens. And I've done three or four episodes. His name is David Rippy. You want to check out th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, they. they. the. they. the the. the. the. the. the. too. too. too. to to to to to. You want to check out those episodes. He's really interesting guy with how he has taken this disability and made it into something where he helps a lot of people. He does tapes for people, hypnosis tapes for pain, for sleep, for losing weight. And he's a healer. He's a healer. You know man and that again is like look at what that guy did with the situation he was dealt and how he just didn't let it eat him up and consume

them but he took it and he turned into a positive and it's just like that's just why I want everybody know. It's like you can do it no matter how dark it seems right now and how much you're consumed. Like, turn off the TV. Take a moment of just taking your environment. And no matter how bleak it looks, dude, tomorrow can be a different day. And you could totally 100% change your life.

In one year, you could be a totally different life. I believe that, man. I want to, doesn't mean like you're gonna be go from a trailer park and not against trailer parks. Trust me, dude, I'm about 10 years away from getting one. I can't wait to just own a trailer like my grandma did, get a nice one, double wide, chill bill. I can't wait, dude.

Get your redwood deck just outside of Reno. Dude, I'm telling you, dude, a trailer in San Diego sounds like heaven to me, dude. And I ain't kidding. I ain't kidding. But you know, you can go, not saying you can go for trailer park to a fucking mansion, but I can say spiritually, you could be a completely different place to a fucking mansion, but I can say spiritually, you could be a completely different place that you are on your way to getting out of whatever situation

is driving you nuts and eating your soul up. And I believe that. Bob, are there any episodes that you're looking forward to maybe doing one day, like that you haven't done yet on any topics? Um, well, there's some, yeah, there's a few things I'd like to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to do to do to do to do some some some to do some to do some some to do some to to to to do some to do some to do some to do to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the the that, the yet on any topics? Well, there's some, yeah, there's a few things I'd like to do. I really want to do some stuff on futuristic kind of things. Like what's, you know, I haven't really connected to that world yet, but what is on the cutting edge of what's going to be happening in the future in all the fields, you know, whether it's medicine or economics, I'm sort of fascinated by this idea of a minimum

basic income for people, because there's not going to be enough jobs with robotics and and things being taken care of that way. That's an interesting thing to me is like how are we going to live as human beings when we don't really have to work 40 hours a week to be okay. I mean, the pandemic sort of started that in a sense with giving people money back. Yeah, I'm a little nervous about that. You know, that stuff makes me very nervous that, because it could easily be like, oh, I just don't have to do anything. Uh, I, you know, man, I would, I like, dude, I just wish that we could trust those who are creating the technology, those who are in a positions of power, and it's not that you have to be like,

I don't trust anybody, but you know, I say question everything, man. You know, like, I just like, you know, you say whatever, I know there's a lot of people that like Trump and I know there's a lot of people to like Trump and regardless of what you say I think you should you should you should question everything. And I this is to me is related to a point you brought up in a Facebook post I think yesterday and it applies especially to the community or a part of I don't call it what you want the truth community or whatever but we but we have this this this we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th is th is th is tho tho tho tho th. thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th is is is is is th is th is th is the the the the the the the the the the th is th is like I I the th is like I th is like thi thi thi the is the is thee an theeeeeeeeeeean. I theean. I theeeeeeeee. I thi. I thi, I don't call it what you want, the truth community or whatever, but we have this tendency just as humans to kind of eat our own, you know, to fight amongst each other and that's exactly what the people in charge who have bad intentions want us to do, and we bring ourselves down. I mean, and just because we disagree on some of the

details, it's no reason to be angry and to write people off. I mean you see that all the time. I'm writing you off, you know on Facebook. People do it, family members, just about politics. I mean, and I don't know. It's, I think that relates to rightly to what you're talking about. You're talking about this post I put on Facebook, which was like, my manifesto, I guess the way Dana called me up and was screaming at me, but it's like, all I'm saying is like, okay, dude, we have a difference of agreement on this coronavirus. It should not negate the 20 years of friendship we've had. And all the, you know, like, dude, I don't walk on water. I'm very flawed, man, but I do take pride in that I love to help other people. I like to freely give to those tho those tho those tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the tho the the the the the the the they. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. tho, I'm, I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm that, I'm too, I'm toean, I'm toean, I'm toge, toge, too, I'm, too, I'm that, I'm that, I'm, I'm to help other people. I like to freely give to those what was giving to me.

I've never fucked anybody out of a dollar. I don't think I'm better than anybody. I treat from peasant the president the same fucking way. Because I don't agree with you on this coronavirus situation. That suddenly you're like flame-throwing me and actually taking pride and happiness and what's happened to me with these tech lords? Like it doesn't make any sense. Agree to disagree.

Move on, I'm not here to just hear from people I agree with. That's boring to me. Fuck your echo chamber. I want to hear from everything, because maybe you're gonna tell me back a little back from me and me going on on on on to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to what to to to what, to their, to, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they......... thoomoomorrow, thea, thea'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'er, their, their, their, they. to tell me something that clicks me back a little back from me and me going on whatever side of the argument I'm on. That's all I'm saying. I hear you man. I have the same thoughts, you know, and I always wonder about, I always want to ask people that are rigid. Can you give me an example of how of a time when your mind was changed and how that happened? Do you have anything like that? Because I would love to hear it.

Can you tell me what that is? So, and if they say no, you know, what are you gonna do? But if they say, yeah, and here it is. So there is a possibility, if you have new information that you may alter the way you think. You know and it's about have you had a sorry have you had a shaman on I know you were talking about sphirtu what do you think about like on your wasca and DMT I know you're sober but have you thought about it have you had something on there to talk about that?

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my flight, but, and everyone's getting out of my way because I look like just a fucking fucking lit up Sonic the Hedgehog, you know what I'm saying? Just, fuck, I mean, I got through, fucking, I don't know how I got th....., uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, hog, you know what I'm saying? Just fuck, I mean, I got through, fucking, I don't know how I got through fucking airport security because I had lightning bolts coming out of my eyes. Well, only a total idiot would take LSD and go to an airport. No, because I- This is the worst decision I've ever heard. No, I didn't the night before. I don't think the way you did it it. It was. It was it it was it was it was it was it was it was it was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. the night the night thi. the night tho. the tho the tho tho thi. thi. tho tho tho' tho' tho' tho'eroge tho'er. I tho'er. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. I th. I th. I the th. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I the. I the. I tho. theat tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo'n't the. I've ever heard. No, I did it the night before. I don't want to be friends anymore.

I don't think the way you did. It was the night before, but it was so strong. It was still going. Okay. How was that flight? I don't know. I was like, I got in and I somewhat fell asleep, but it was like, it's just interesting. Real quick, man, we talked about the coronavirus. What is your thoughts on where we're heading in this country?

I, I just, I've been, you know, man, I love all my friends. I love all the people I've met on this journey, man. I'm really let down by the, you know, the fake, the fake resistance, the, you know, this is Sam speaking, Bob, and you're more and willing to, you know, light me up like a pinnata, but you know, I'm really just let down by the 20 years of, uh, of a fuck, rich white guys, they're ruining everything. Don't trust the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking the fucking uh... rich white guys they're they're ruining everything uh... don't trust the fucking cops you know my body my choice and then suddenly it's like listen to Bill Gates he's a white billionaire he cares and do what

the cops tell you and dude like yeah cool mandatory vaccinations told you and dude like yeah cool mandatory vaccinations whatever you want government it just like it's just this flip That has happened and it's just it's so disheartening because I just heard from all these fake ass punk rockers forever and I know they're scared but just like Man they rolled over so quickly and it makes me really sad. Yeah, well, you know every problem in life I think comes down to some kind of fear. So when you have people that are afraid they're, they're, and the thing that most people are afraid of is the, it's either a thing that are afraid of, or they're afraid of the unknown. And if you're afraid of the unknown you want to make something known so you have to pick a the theory the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they they they they the. they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they. they they they. they they they. they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're thi. they're they're they're thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they, so you have to pick a theory, an idea, a way of believing

in order to be less afraid. And it's an interesting thing of, you know, the cycle that we're in right now of, you know, just to be super ridiculous about it, you know, this wave of fascism, racism kind of thing to, you know, as a backlash to, you know, to, you know, to, you know, to, to be, to to to to to to to the to they, to to they, they, to to to to to they, to be, to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be, to be, to be, to be, you know, this wave of fascism, racism kind of thing to, you know, as a backlash to, you know, liberalism and, and the big, you know, and I think things come in cycles and they peak. And, you know, it's a necessary process, you know, if you watch kids play, for example, if you were to go into a kindergarten class or a nursery school class, and you watch, there's a rhythm to when kids play, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, you, you, you to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi or a nursery school class and you watch, there's a rhythm to when kids play. All human beings are like this, there's an energy and there's a lot of noise and then as a group they get quiet. And then they come back again and they make noise.

then they get quiet. It's like this, if you even look at these waves, you know, it's like behind me in this virtual thing. There's patterns to living, you know, and it's like, you know, it's like, it's not gonna be the way it is now forever. It's the same way it wasn't, it isn't now the way it was five years ago. And I think these are sort of necessary growing pains for any society. And I guess the things, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th.. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, it's like, it's like, guess the thing that one of the things you were talking about it's kind of a pet peeve of mind in a danger

I think is labels For instance if I say I'm a liberal and my friend is a conservative, what does that really mean? Yeah, now they've become pejoratives and my idea of what a liberal is is not what the conservative's idea of a liberal is. And my idea of a, you know what I mean? And it's like you're a lib-tard, you're a right-wing. These labels just over-simplify and create this attitude of dismissiveness. You were just talking about that. And this idea of not being mature enough as a as a culture to have a discourse

We used to all kind of be on the same page With different approaches to how to achieve it But now it doesn't seem like that. It seems like there's an energy. I mean, there is an energy to hatred. There's a power to it. You know, when I hate somebody. I know? thin. the thi, thi, thin, thin, the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. te. te. te. te. te. te. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. t it. You know, when I hate somebody, I know exactly who I am. I'm the guy that hates, you know, and there's a direct sort of line and a power to that that feels good if you feel weak inside. And it's a real, it's an interesting thing to see what's happening. I would love to see, you know, adults act like adults. Bob, I'm gonna be honestly, man. I totally 100% agree with you. And just like, if, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you th th th thi, if you thi, if you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there's a there's a there's a there's a there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I totally 100% agree with you. And just like, if you just take a look at the last couple years, like, how many marches and protests happen? You know, we have the Black Lives Matter happen, you know, and on this show the listeners

be like, oh, it's funded by George Soros. Let's take a moment and say, what are those people marching about? And then we take a look, let's take a look at the women's march and what those people are marching about. And then let's take a little the open up protest, and who are they marching against? And like, if you really take a look at it, they're all marching against the same people. But they refuse to look at that. And they're so busy fighting and point fingers and labels

and they don't realize like, what is Black Lives Matter saying, dude? The fucking government doesn't have the right to violate our constitutional rights by shooting us unarmed and used an exaggerated force? What are the open up people saying? You don't have the right to violate our constitutional? Fucking rights. It's the same march. And what are the women marching against? The right for representation and the government not to tell them what they do with their body. It's the same people. It's cops use in overforce and it's fucking government stepping in in their personal

beliefs. Like, it's the same people, but they refuse, it's like, that guy in Georgia gets shot. Why am I on that side of the people marching about that? Because that young man didn't deserve to get shot in the fucking street. And if you tell me they're breaking the law, blah blah blah blah save it, okay? Because you know what they're telling the guys who are fucking, these hair salon people when they're trying to open up? Guess what the cops are telling them? You're breaking the fucking law, okay?

Like, it's the same people. So I gotta march with them, so when I'm angry, they march with me. That we march together. And I'm gonna tell you something, ma'am, if you took a gangbanger and you took a white supremacist and you sat them in the room and you really have them get honest, and you go, why are you in these groups? They would give you the exact same answer. I feel like I have the the same part of a group that says they fucking care.

And that's the same exact thing. But we can't ever come together on that because we've been bombarded since we were young to put everybody in fucking groups, cookie cutter bullshit, and we'll never come together. And that's what they want. And that's what you're talking about, Johnny. They never want us to come together. And that's what they want. And that's what you're talking about, Johnny. They never want us to come together. You know, I have a friend. That was quite impassioned, and I enjoyed that. I was trying to picture you naked while that was going on. I got gorilla kids right now, I got gorilla kids. This is why chicks dig Sam Tripoli. They used to, not till, not this fucking, pandemic Sam with his gorilla tits. My babies keep trying to fucking nurse on my fucking nipples. It sucks. I love that.

I remember that when my kids try it. I think they're okay. I don't know what I was going to say. I was just thinking about a cop shooting a hairdresser. Well, you see where they take that young lady and they beat the shit out of her in New York because she does have a mask on, even though they don't have masks on. Oh, here? And it's like stop acting like you're doing your job, you know, there's a difference between the law and the spirit of justice. And you're breaking the spirit of justice. Just because something's legal or illegal doesn't make it right or wrong. Well also what happened to proportional response, you know, like the penalty, like these guys,

I can't even get in their mindset, these guys who thought they were going to do this vigilante thing, even if the guy had broken into the house that, the construction site and stolen something, that deserves some kind of armed response, you know what I mean? It just does it. Well, yeah, that's not your house. That's notthe whole thing, dude. You have a right to defend yourself. It's a form of white-kniting- You know, all they grabbed his gun. Well, it's like, dude, it's like, dude, I'm sorry. Let's flip it. You're that guy running. Okay, yeah, you've had a shady pass. Who hasn't? And some dudes come up with a gun on you? Yeah, sure I'd trust the police, but they're, I mean, you don't know if they're trained and you don't know what their intentions are.

No, of course you would grab it. Of course you would grab it. They deserve a trial. Everybody there. Like the notion, the notion, they're not arrest these guys. That's what I'm somebody can touch your weapon ever like that's the number one thing you have to keep a distance they tell police that too so those guys didn't know what the hell they're those guys

were idiots supposedly a cop ex-g what you want to say it's a citizen's arrest that he was doing a citizen's arrest you know they the should have, I'm gonna start arresting. I would love. My homie drug dealer and say, it's a citizens arrest and just keep the drugs. Can't just make the citizens arrest. When's the last time someone actually got down with the citizens arrest? I would love to do it, too. I would love a get down. That'd be a great name for a band, citizens arrest, to to arrest, to arrest, to arrest, to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, I, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, their, their, their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I their, I, I their, I their. It, I, I their. It, I, I, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the today, the today, today, the the today, the the the the tper room. Bob I I had a great time with you and I next time I want to get into like some of that regression like that stuff past life stuff man

we got to find that thing and talk about that because dude that really interests me man that really I'm all into that you know like I'm all into that you know like I don't believe anything but except for when they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th they th th th th th th th th. th. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that really that that really that really that that that really that really that really that that really that really that really that really that really that really that that that really that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th really really thr thr thr thr that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that really really really really really that that really really really that that all into that you know like NASA just came out the you know I don't believe anything but except for when they say stuff that I believe in then I'm like yeah yeah yeah when it's fun right but man when they're like I think they're like I think there's multiple dimensions I'm like I'm like that that story is amazing too it's in this other dimension time goes in reverse that's fascinating. NASA scientists detect evidence of parallel universe where time runs backwards.

What the fuck does that even mean? Well, what they said was, and it's fascinating, they say, naturally, these particles are falling out of space into the Earth's core because of gravity, and they detected these particles actually going the opposite direction, which makes no sense with, you know, with respect to gravity, it's just not possible. And so they say that their theory is that these must be some kind of evidence of a second dimension, you know, where the particles are actually going in reverse time, like time is flipped. And so they're going actually out in the space instead. My favorite, my favorite gift is that Jack Nicholson one where he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because that's, when I read that, I'm like, yeah, now you're into my good shit, dude. That's, I'm all about multiple dimensions. And dude, just all the pieces start come together. Bob, one more time, brother, please, please tell us about your podcast and where they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they coming together. Bob, one more time, brother. Please, please tell us about your podcast and where they can find it. Okay, so it is the exploding human with Bob Nickman. There's a website, the exploding human.com. I also have the episodes on YouTube. Boom. Yeah, it's just the audio. The exploding human with Bob Nickman on YouTube. Boom! It's just the exploding, it's just the audio, the exploding human with Bob Nickman on YouTube. There's Twitter, there's Facebook, there's a Patreon, there's all the stuff that people have to if they want to support the

show, but come and listen, that's the main thing. I really would love to have you visit and check out some of the episode. It's a wide array of practitioners and people have overcome challenges and new ways to explore, expand and explode. Well, Bob, I hope the Swarm finds you and shows you love, man. That's what the fans, the listeners here are called. They're called the Swarm because they show up in bunches, brother. And I hope, and I think they're going to love this episode and you know to me dude I just love having these episodes because I love the listeners so

much there was a time where I had nobody listened to my show so when I I get this amount of people listening and then ebbs and flows and when the tech people aren't fucking with me we get really great numbers and when they fuck with me we get good numbers great numbers, and when they fuck with me, we get good numbers. And you know, and I can't complain. So like these episodes, I know you really want to hear about, you know, lizard people and pizza gate and all that stuff, but I also want you guys to get something that, man, you guys can find, I want you guys to know, the dreams are just on the other side of that door you just got to walk through it man and you could do it Johnny I mean Johnny just hit me up one day and he's like hey man I'd love to help you and he moved from North

Carolina and now he's I don't know if he's living his dreams are a nightmare but I know he's pretty fucking it's a different life than it was three or four years ago and Johnny just took a chance. And you gotta do that too. And I know you got kids, and I know you're into this, and I know you got that, you got a million excuses. But dude, if you just spend a little time every day, working on your dreams, it could happen, I'm telling you, you can do it, but it's gotta be you, you gotta do it. You can't wait for someone else to do it. You gotta do it.

And I hope, and hit me up and anything I could ever do for you guys. I try to answer as many messages as I can, but hit me up. And I hope you guys go find Bob, because dude, his show is amazing and I'm very honored he would come on my little shelf. So Bob, next time we have you on I need you hopefully this craziness is down we can get you in studio and we could focus on like one fun little topic and bang it out. That'll be fun. I'd look forward to being in person. I'll be a big hug Sam. That would be nice. I know that that tropical island

that you've built your studio on is going to be hard, hard to leave it but you can you have an open door anytime you want to come in brother I hope that you are and you brought up Mark Merrin we want to send our condolences to Mark Mark is such a wonderful person and always been very kind and I know that he lost somebody this week and his girlfriend and it's really sad man you know it's really sad so we send our thoughts and prayer to Mark his girlfriend and it's really sad man. You know, it's really sad. So we send our thoughts and prayer to Mark, to Mark's girlfriend's family and to all of her friends

and sorry for your loss, man. The older you get, the more heroes you lose. And that's probably the hardest part of growing old is losing so many people that you love. So thoughts and prayers of you, Mark Marron. Bob again, thank thank th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho tho tho thi, thi, tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. th. th. th. th th th. this th. this this this this this this th th this this th th this thi, this thi, this thi, thi. thi. this thi this thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tho tho. So thoughts and prayers of you, Mark Marron. Bob again, thank you so much. XG, thank you so much. Johnny, thank you so much. And we'll see you guys soon and later, okay? Enjoy your life and we'll see you on the next episode. Thanks for this for. Goodbye Swarm. I love you very much. Enjoy your life. Take care.