Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #352: Imago Dei, Transcendent Moral Order and a Humane Economy with Jason Jones

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Starting point is 00:08:39 You've seen him on Alex Jones. He's an author, he's a filmmaker. He's a human rights activist. And we don't have enough of those. Dude, I love human rights activists because it's a very selfish thing to do. You know, selfless. Damn, I used to wrong word. There's a selfless thing to do.

Starting point is 00:08:58 Please welcome. He was on Alex Jones. Super excited to have him there. Jason Jones. I'm a fan of the show the show the show the show the show your brother? I'm a fan of the show so I'm excited to see you guys. Well you got everything butchered on your intro so hey you're part of the club. Congratulations. I'm not a fan anymore. I'm getting a full tempo I had experience and that's correct. It is the most nervous part of the show. I'm like I got I gotta get this right or else I'm gonna never hear the end of it. Dude, thank you so much for coming on the show and thank you for being so understanding

Starting point is 00:09:29 of just like the chaos of that is my life. So welcome, dude, welcome. Good to be here. You are, you were on Alex Jones and you were talking about how you have the cure to or the answer is it to all all conspiracies that's a very interesting take on that what is your take on the I think you said defeat which I found a very interesting word he said beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats beats oh yeah yeah beats beats beats so the beat all conspiracy which is a very interesting word what is that well

Starting point is 00:10:12 yeah well first of all to be on your show and to be on Alex is is bizarre for me and a great experience when this whole COVID thing shut down I'm a filmmaker my films got slowed down production distribution and a lot of my my trive to the to the and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theat. the. the. the. the. the. the. the and a lot of my travel for my organization got shut down. And we said we want to amplify our influence. And when I tried to get COVID-tested, I realized they were movie sets and I filmed it and it went uberviral and launched the film, your hospital movement. But I wrote a book called The Race to Save Our Century, started writing it as an undergrad. I was an undergraduate. I was obsessed with conspiracy theories. I wanted to know what were the causes of genocide, democide, and total war in the 20th century. I got a sense that behind each of

Starting point is 00:10:54 these rises to power in Nazi Germany or in in Russia, there were there were conspiracies that brought them to power and we saw over a hundred 80 million people murdered by their own governments in the 20th century and I wanted to order my life to prevent that from happening in the 21st. I thought how could I use my life to try to leave my children and grandchildren of my posterity, a culture of love and peace. And so I thought if I got to the bottom of these conspiracies that were out there that then I could th, I could th th th, I could I could I could I could I could I could I could I could I could I could quickly th, I could quickly th, I could quickly quickly th, I could quickly quickly quickly th, I could quickly thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the their their thi. thi, I quickly their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their their their their their their their their thi, I thought if I got to the bottom of these conspiracies that were out there, then I could defeat them. But what I quickly understood is that there are countless conspiracies of people conspiring for power. And I'll never be able to, we never know which one's going to come to the top,

Starting point is 00:11:40 and you're never going to figure them out. I really, I'm never going to, so I thought, how do I order my life? And I thought, there has to be principles that we can advocate in society that creates a culture that would block sort of any nefarious plot for totalitarian rule. I love it. And so that's what I sought out to do is when I was still an undergraduate, it took me 14 years to write the book. Hey, those are the good books.

Starting point is 00:12:07 I can know people writing books like every other week and I'm like, what is this, a coloring book? What do we do it here? So that's great, man. You know, it's like every book takes different thought when you started the book. Yeah, when I started it, I was going to be called Generation X Manifesto, the race to the end of our century. I was an atheist.

Starting point is 00:12:33 I was an Einrand objectivist, and I kind of thought I knew the answer. The problem was collectivism and totalitarianism, and the answer was radical individualism and freedom. But I quickly saw that, I had this vision I theeeeee I finished this this thiiiiiiiiii th. I finished this book th. I finished. But I quickly saw that, and I had this vision, I'll finish this book a year after I graduate college. I'll be on the cover of George magazine, you know, at the time it was there. And then I realized this is gonna take a lot more work, and it took 14 years.

Starting point is 00:12:58 So, but I really do think that in this book I wrote with John Smyrach, the economist and historian John Smyrack, I think we sort of did bury down into what caused the hell that was the 20th century for most of the world. And a lot of what we predicted in our book is already coming true. And so the book, which we published in 2014, we've sold more copies since the COVID outbreak than we did all the time from 2014 until COVID. Well you know, I think people are looking for answers to what's going on because once again, it's not adding up.

Starting point is 00:13:39 It just doesn't add up. And the problem is, is like the deep state, the powers at B, Chomsky calls them the masters of mankind. They set the table in which we must work from. You know, a great example, that was the Las Vegas shooting. You know, they set the table that it was one shooter doing this, this, this, and then we have to slowly, surely debunk that instead of just starting from a blank slate. And that is always the hardest part. And that's why COVID, I think, has been such a curse and such, but in the same way,

Starting point is 00:14:19 such a blessing to people like you and to conspiracy theorists. We call them spiritual skeptists, the truth community, free thinkers, whatever you want to call them. It's been a blessing because it's really open people's eyes to the fact that one, you know, the question is, the thing you always heard before 9-11, the thing you always heard before 9-11, landing on the moon, the assassination JFK, whatever it is.

Starting point is 00:14:53 How could so many people be in on it? How many, how could so many people be a part of this and not speak up? And then, like Eddie Bravo says, look at us right now. We are having mass lockdown, economic shutdown, entertainment, shut down. I mean, you were just talking about how you're moving from Hawaii because they've shut it down and you can't do your job. How is that possible? Because, as Charlie Robinson says, the octopus of control, it has tentacles everywhere. And it just takes one person at the top

Starting point is 00:15:32 to do this domino effect on everything else. So people are just going, how is this happening? And it is both the, you know, we're cursed to be in interesting times, right? And that's kind of where we're at. What I would like to get into is how your local celebrity here started a pretty cool thing called Film Your Hospitals. To me, that's amazing. I didn't know that until I read down your breakdown. That's amazing, dude.

Starting point is 00:15:59 Can you tell us a little bit more about that? It was bizarre and then I'd like to get at how we destroy that octopus, but I had been traveling the country and working on my movie, flew home, tried to, I was getting friends of mine in the administration on their place and said, you need to get home, they're about to lock the country down. So first week of March, I flew back to Hawaii and I had actually been exposed to somebody who had tested positive positive to COVID to COVID to COVID to COVID to exposed to somebody who had tested positive for COVID in late February. So what I did was I am quarantine myself in a out-of-the-way hotel in Hawaii till I could get a test. I was able to go to a

Starting point is 00:16:37 testing site that my doctor referred me to. By the way, I had a sore throat, I had a cold, I had been directly exposed to somebody with COVID. I thought it was all a bunch of hype, but I wanted to be responsible. I saw on the news that this testing station was overflowing with people and there were lines hours long. So I was like, great. I loved to read. I'm going to bring some books. So I brought my reading glasses, thought I'd sit in my car while I urged along and inched along until I got the swab stuck up my nose.

Starting point is 00:17:07 I get to the testing site, there's nobody there. I mean, nobody there. And I go to get tested, and they're like, you don't meet the qualifications. I'm like, well, I have four out of five, which I actually had a fever. I put I didn't have a fever. When I ended appointing my doctor to get tested, when they refused to test me, I actually had a fever. But they didn't even take my temperature. They just asked me if I had a fever. So I was just going to go back home, but then I saw this obese woman who tho'nupe-wii. thiii. tho-like tho-wi, and tho-wi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-wa, thr-wa, thr-wa, thr-n-n-n-a, thr-a, thr-a'er, I tho-n-n-n-a'er, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thr-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-nititititituuuiiiiiia-nitua-na-na-sa'erua'er, t to be responsible, she wants to get tested, and she looks like she's dying.

Starting point is 00:17:50 They don't test her. They tell her to go home and quarantine for 14 days. So this makes me mad. So I stay, I started filming it on my Facebook, not thinking anything. But I'm friends with Tulsi Gabbard and she was running for president. So I texted her the card at the time. She was running for president. She retweets it. Saying, why can't my friend get tested?

Starting point is 00:18:12 So next thing you know, it goes wild. Somebody takes my video, puts it on YouTube, gets 20 million views. Then they sink it down the memory hole. You can't find 14-year-old's fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist fist right. But I can't find my video filming a hot Chloe shush. I can't find a video. I apologize guys. It's all right dude. I might have to try about it. Hold on. I find that very interesting. And you know on to basically take what he was talking about, Eddie Bravo took it to another step. He sent all these people at dojo's all over the world to go and film their hospitals and

Starting point is 00:18:54 they saw the exact same thing. I didn't know that. I'm a huge Eddie Bravo fan, so that makes me happy. So that's what happened. I didn't know I launched this film, your hospital movement until all these radio stations and TV stations are calling me saying, you're the guy that launched the film your hospital movement. I was just being a jerk on Facebook to my friends,

Starting point is 00:19:11 like, look at this. These guys, you know, what's going on, what's going on. And I didn't know, I was asking people. What's the deal? What's the deal? I to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the tho. th. th. th. th. I. I, th. I, the th. I'm. th. I'm, the the th. I'm, the the the the th. the th. the the thi. the the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th... I, th. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was th. I was thi. thr. thr. thr. theean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. I was the the th be honest, I don't know what the deal was. I still can't figure it out. But then I got to go on Alex Jones a show, and then all these other radio and television shows. And then it really did, I think that that broke the narrative that our hospitals were overrun. But then that's when I realized someone who runs a human rights organization. We work across the Middle East and in Africa.

Starting point is 00:19:45 Our mission is to advance the interests of stateless, vulnerable, ethnic, and religious minorities. So we work with the Uyghur and Chinese occupied East Turkest, we work in Africa. I work in Iraq. I know food security is a big problem. So my first thought in early March was, if the United States follows Italy's lead, we're about to starve the world from Bangladesh

Starting point is 00:20:10 to sub-Saharan Africa. Wow. Sort of talking about that, writing about that. And by the grace of God, that little video of mine, because it gave me so much media, I was able to go on all these big platforms and quickly turn the subject away from, yeah, I couldn't to get to get, able to go on all these big platforms and quickly turn the subject away from, yeah, I couldn't get tested, but do you know we're about to starve the world because food production

Starting point is 00:20:27 is going to slow down and food distribution is going to slow down and processing is going to slow down. So people in the margins of hunger will fall into hunger, people in hunger will fall in the famine. And David Beasley from the World Food Program has since come out and said this will be the greatest year for famine since World War II. They're going to blame it on COVID. It has nothing to do with COVID. It has to do with the ham-fisted response that that octopus literally got farmers all over the world off their farms. Truck drivers out of their trucks. People out of food processing plants. And if you remember, they shamed food processing companies

Starting point is 00:21:11 that dared state open. Do you remember that? Yeah. They shamed it. It was as if the last thing in the world they wanted was people to produce, process or distribute food. And it's really heartbreak. I don't know if you just saw but they found the COVID and frozen foods coming in from China and Brazil and Udawai hasn't came to United States but they're finding the COVID in frozen shrimp chicken it's just a matter of time

Starting point is 00:21:39 how it's gonna get everywhere from China. But dude it is already everywhere it's always been everywhere. It is like you could go back forever. They've been, dude, it's like, it's like, it is, it is unbelievable. This virus has been around forever. Ever, man, they've been testing animals on it forever. It's just, I mean, I talked to somebody on farm, like yeah, we used to test them for COVID. It's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:22:06 And what you're talking about is 100% true, Jason. It's just like, this is a forced crisis. They're trying to break the will of people. The amazing Polly did a video saying that, is this just mass torture? Are they, I mean like, we've talked about it before, about how, for lack of a better term, so we all know we're talking about, lizard people, right? Whatever they are, I don't know, we're just gonna use that term so we know what we're talking about, okay,

Starting point is 00:22:37 which is this super power elite group of all related to each other. They are all in their their their their their thine thine thine they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're in they're in they're in they're in they're all on the same family tree, and they feed off our negativity. And when we're in pain and we're in suffering for some reason, they feed off that. And this is a wonderful way to do it. Johnny and I've been talking about the coin shortage in the United States. We're running out of coins. Yeah, because you're not putting them out. It's this, thoo tho tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. tho. thanthis small group of people that are doing everything and it's exactly what Jason's talking about. It is this this

Starting point is 00:23:08 movement by this small group of people when we deregulated everything and don't come at me libertarians because you got to hear what I'm saying. I'm not saying that we need to have, listen if you took away the that you change it in deregulation and we put in precautions, you know, protections, stuff like that, people have a much different reaction to it. But we say deregulation. And like, I'm with you guys, I do not, fee of entry, that's a big thing people have a problem with fee of entry, charging people a bazillion dollars to get into stuff,

Starting point is 00:23:45 charging it for everything they do, there's a charge. What I'm talking about is the deregulation, let's say, of the media, so you can all understand what I'm talking about. The deregulation of the media, which allowed four or five companies, now it's four. The only reason Fox is still in on it is because Disney didn't want to completely shatter the two new, you know, MSNBC versus Fox narrative that's going on. So they made Fox News its own thing,

Starting point is 00:24:14 even though they incorporate all of Fox. So now we're down the four groups, owning all the media. They own all the banks, they own everything. How easy is it for four groups to just go shut everything down? And it dominoes out. And we have these globalists right now. China came in and bought all of our meat processing plants in the United States. I think there was only a couple states that didn't allow that to happen. And this is what we're seeing.

Starting point is 00:24:41 And you could get in a fight, you could be as angry as you want when I say this, but Donald Trump and his war on free trade with China is probably a big part of this. And I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on that, Jason. That the Chinese and the globalists are trying to put a hurt on everybody so we don't go and change the way the things have been operating since George Bush senior has tried to push globalism on everybody. Your thoughts on that, Jason? Well, yeah, I mean, I believe in free and fair trade. The present says fair, free trade, but is it free trade? You know, I have two rules I teach my children. Like, theyrown, theyre, throwne, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thuuuuuuuuuuuuu's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, tho, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, You know, like this large desire for more and more things, more and more products, new phone, new TV,

Starting point is 00:25:30 creates a demand for we have Uyghur slaves making our Nike shoes. That's not a conspiracy theory. It is a fact. Let me ask you some, Jason, real quick on that. So there are a group of people out there that believe that this, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the Muslim, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thua, thua, th thoomsmus, thusus, tooombs, tooombs, tooombs, too, too, too, tooomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomomom, to, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, of people out there that believe that this, the Muslim slave camps are US, the military industrial complex, US Department of Defense propaganda to get us in the war with China. What is your thoughts on that?

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Starting point is 00:26:56 the room. That's it. The loneliest, saddest person in the room, that's where you go stand. The Uyghur are the loneliest, most vulnerable people in the world right now. No doubt, there are nefarious judo-jitsu masters out there that want to put us on our back and mount us and they'll use the Uyghur to do it. So we have to be thoughtful in what we do. But look, those camps need to be closed and the Uyghur need to be let out. I totally agree with you. There is no doubt. The Uyghur are in slave camps. Now Nike's not going there and enslaving them, but they're working with companies,

Starting point is 00:27:30 they're subcontracting to companies, as a lot of other companies, they're not just Nike, Adidas and others, and they get that the companies hiring Uyghur slaves. So there is no free trade with China. China buys out AMC theaters and invests in films, so top gun, they have to digitally remove Taiwan's flag and Japan's flag from Tom Cruise's jacket. That's the influence Hollywood China's having in Hollywood.

Starting point is 00:28:00 Now they're buying food distribution companies. Remember, the greatest famine in the world was caused by the Communist Party of China. 60 million Chinese starved. Why did 60 million Chinese starve? Because the government of China, the Communist Party of China, kept the Chinese off their farms. Just like now, they're keeping all of us off of our farms.

Starting point is 00:28:21 I agree. I just want to say a couple things because I think you're 100% correct. And what the critics will say, well the US does that, the US occupies, we're allies with Israel and all this stuff. Hey, this show completely and utterly pushes against all that. I don't like any of that. I am not into our foreign policy. I do not like our shock in all way of dealing with people. I do not like our shock in all way of dealing with people. I do not like occupying other countries and I don't think it's okay for the US to do it. And just because the US is doing it doesn't mean we should just be okay with China. I think there's this real narrative when people are

Starting point is 00:28:59 going with Tick Tock that they're angry that they're getting rid of Tick to while they're like oh you don't th. th th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I don't thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi. I thi thi. I thi thi thi thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi're angry that that we're getting rid of Tick Tock while they're like, oh you don't think the US government is using blah blah blah. I don't like that either. I don't understand why it has to be if one happens the other one should happen. None of them should happen. None of them. I don't know why we're okay with that. I don't know what but you know I oppose the invasion of Iraq. I'm an infantry veteran. This is the shirt of my unit. I'm proud to have served in the infantry. My son fought in Syria and Iraq. I've been to Iraq. I'm in Iraq now building schools because I want to keep the promise

Starting point is 00:29:32 that the American government made and broke. I opposed the invasion of Iraq. And at the time I said, Your children won't fight. Mine will, and guess what, mine did. Okay, my son fought in a war I opposed. But guess what? I also opposed to withdraw. You break it, you buy it. And, but there is no comparison, by the way, we created a hellhole in Iraq.

Starting point is 00:29:56 It's, when I, when I walk through the cities of Iraq, which I have done that are just mounds and mounds of rubble, that are the fruit of our failed foreign policy, it breaks to my heart. But yeah, you're right, Sam, we shouldn't be partisan about this. I care so much about the vulnerable ethnic and religious minorities in Iraq. I've traveled with the Peshmerga. I've been a mile away from ISIS in war. As a civilian filmmaker documenting what's happening there because I care because you're right. But I find the people that they supported invading Iraq

Starting point is 00:30:28 when we invaded it. They get swept away in every enthusiasm. Then they supported leaving Iraq when we left. They agreed with it. Then they wanted to top of Assad. Yeah. I don't want to tap it was odd. I didn't want to force our corporations to make wise decisions, ethical decisions.

Starting point is 00:30:47 Do not hire producers that use slaves to make your shoes. Another... The NBA's got a big problem coming up with that, brother. The NBA, and I have MBA my blood. It isn't my bones. Patrick Ewing is my favorite player of all time. He's affected my stand-up. I love it. They have a real problem. LeBron, I wouldn't doubt right now if the ratings crash so bad next year, you see a movement to get LeBron out of the NBA because of those comments he made. And listen, I hate to

Starting point is 00:31:21 tell everybody, but the NBA in a weird way, they are blessed that COVID hit because it shut down a season where they were rock bottom in their ratings. And they get a, they got a little bump in their first game and it's already going back down because they made everything political and they've allowed their dollars. Mark Cuban is a coward. He is a coward and he is a child and he is a hypocrite. What he said about what's going on in China and how he doesn't get involved in domestic policy is just absolutely ridiculous. Imagine if that was said about the Jews in Germany in the 1940s and how much, how, what cowards and monsters we would see them at.

Starting point is 00:32:07 Something is going on in in China that is wrong and if your sneakers are being made by slave labor, you should have a real problem with that. And they're turning their head because it's dollars. This show makes a certain amount of money because we take certain stances. We could make way more money if we dance to dance, but that's not how we do it. We don't even make that much money on here. You know, I mean, like XG has to live in a food truck. That's how bad it is right now. I mean, Johnny has to have a flag.

Starting point is 00:32:38 He's getting paid by the US government to have that flag behind. But the point is, dude, we got to do product placement everywhere, dude. You know, you know it's crazy, Sam? You know that you can order a t-shirt right now and then on the back, you can put Black Lives Matter or whatever statement you want. You know you can't put free Hong Kong? Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's the Chinese, fuck the Muslims that are being in concentration camps? It's not even, it's not the Chinese, it's the government. And it's just like it's always the government. I've no problems with Israelis.

Starting point is 00:33:09 I know a lot of Israelis, they're wonderful people. It's the government. I have no problems with Americans. I know a lot of Americans. It's the US government. And we allow this done to the extent that you have Jason, but I've been to the Middle East, I've been to Afghanistan, I've met those people. They're all the nicest people. People are people. Sam, can I share with you? Yeah, what was the word you use that Nomchamski said about the power elite? What is he called? They're called? The masters of mankind. their masters of the world. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. People. People. People. th. People. th. People. People. th. People. People. thi. People thi. People. thi. People their people. their people. their people. their people. People are people. People are, their people are, their people are, their, their people are, their, their people. They are, their people. They are, their people. They are, their. They are, their. They's. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. They's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the world. There's those who I think they're the masters of the mankind and those who daydream

Starting point is 00:33:45 about barbecuing at the lake with their kids and their wife and that's it. It's two types. You find both types in every country. When I was in Iraq, I was the only American invited to speak in a human rights conference at Iraqis. So of course the State Department was outside, Department. I knew who I was and why I was allowed to speak, and they weren't. And I said, I don't know. But when I went to speak, I began by saying that it breaks my heart and that I want to apologize for the United States, for my citizens, for the citizens of the United States, that our failed foreign policy has caused this problem,

Starting point is 00:34:20 because I was there at the height of ISIS at this conference. And this gentleman who looked like the stereotype of a Muslim fundamentalist, he stood up all this garb and he yelled at me, don't you ever apologize for the American people. We have got to know who the American people are by talking to your soldiers and the normal people. You are the most beautiful people in the world. It's your government and your government like our government's no good. He got it. He got it. And I was like this man gets it. This man gets it. Jason, um, if I hypothetically, if the United States had stayed through on its commitment in Iraq, Where do you think that country is today if they had if they had not drawn down precipitously like they did? How much different is that country now? Is it flourishing at this point? Or are we still

Starting point is 00:35:13 kind of working on the rebuild? It would have been there. It's drastic difference. Look, I said if we invaded Iraq we're going to have to be there as as long as we've been in Germany in Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan in Japan the the the to the to the to the the the the to the the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to have to be there as long as we've been in Germany and Japan, right? So we'd still be there, and it wouldn't be pretty. But what wouldn't have happened is the real genocide that hit the Azidi. Beautiful people, by the way, they hit the Caldeans and the Assyrians, a real genocide. And we didn't even talk about it. That's what I don't to their their. I don't their. I don't even. I don't their.ivant around the world sticking my nose in every horrible problem that exists, right? Just like I don't want to go around my neighborhood looking through the windows to see which father's an alcoholic or beating his wife. That's not our role is

Starting point is 00:35:53 to, you know, but this isn't us being do-gooders. This was a problem that we actually created. And so we would not have seen the rise of ISIS. We would not have seen, look, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho would not have seen, look, there's still thousands of Yazidi women missing. We don't know where they are. We don't even talk about it. It's just strange to me that we don't even talk about it, that it's not even in B-17 of our papers, not once a year. So that's a good question. I'm not saying there thoahahah Iraq. That's why I didn't want to evade Iraq, invade Iraq. I didn't want to. So we shouldn't leave Afghanistan? You know how Trump was trying to take 4,000 troops out of Afghanistan? You think it's if as someone who's been in the military,

Starting point is 00:36:34 you don't invade and then leave? No, I think Afghanistan and Iraq are different, different situations. You know Iraq, I don't want then, I to to thu, I'm to to thu, I'm to the thu, I'm to they, I'm thu, I'm to to they, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to toea, I'm toe, I'm toe, I'm toea, I'm toea, I'm toea, I'm tova, I'm tova, I'm tova, I'm tovaq, I'm tovuea, I'm tovue, I'm tovue, I'm too, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm too, I'm too, I'm too, the they, they, I'm they. they. they. they. toeaq, they.aq, toeaq, toeaq, they.aq, toeaq, toeaq, toea, to't want to get into the weeds of it, but you had, you guys, I'm sure you know, about the Sykes-Pico agreement and sort of how, this is another conspiracy that's a fact, that the borders of the Middle East after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, were literally designed to make it fragile and in constant conflict, so it would be easy for the colonial masters masters to control. That's a fact. Dude, this is what we're talking about. I mean that's a fact.

Starting point is 00:37:08 The Sykes-Pico agreement is a fact. So then now we have to deal with that present reality. So you've got in Iraq, you've got the Kurds. The Kurds were promised independence even at the time of the Sykes-Pico agreement, I don't want to say to say to sayPico agreement they did its job. You have the Kurds, you have the Shia, the Sunni, and so you have this this is a very different situation. So I do believe we should be living Afghanistan. I mean I definitely don't know. And you know this whole thing Jason I mean do you buy any of this that these Taliban who want us out are making a deal with us and then just have decided, like, right when we're about to seal the deal, let's just blow something up just to piss these people off,

Starting point is 00:37:54 even though we're making a deal to want to leave? I personally believe, and I'd love to hear your opinion, that this is a deep-a, and thate, and thate, and thate, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be a to be a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thean, thean, the thean, the the the thean, the thean, thean, thean, thean, thi., thi., thi, age of a deal to keep, and might not even just be military, industrial, it might be pharmaceutical companies not wanting troops to leave because they don't want to pay for privatized military forces to protect their poppy fields. I think this is just all, I mean, and I make no, I'm under no illusion that Donald Trump is a white hat for everybody. I think he's a human being.

Starting point is 00:38:32 I think he's a mob boss and that's both good and bad. That's my personal opinion. This isn't Jason's, but this is Sam's personal opinion. But I do believe that he wants to kind of minimize our presence around the world and have to pay for all this stuff when stuff at home needs to be taken care of. What are your thoughts on all that? Like I wouldn't put anything past him and that's why in my book I came up with what I call the five whole life principles. And yeah, whatever you want to think about Donald Trump, let's tell, this is what we know he's not.

Starting point is 00:39:05 He's not a team player. He is not willing to be a cog in a neoliberal conspiracy or any other kind of conspiracy. Like, you could hate Donald Trump, but you're gonna have to agree. Donald Trump's not gonna be a cog in any man's machine. Yeah, it's a different, it's a different group. Joe Biden is a butler. Joe Biden is a water carrier.

Starting point is 00:39:28 Joe Biden has never been Joe Biden's own man. Joe Biden is a team player and the worst sense of the word. Joe Biden is basically weakening at Bernies right now. Can we all agree on that? Like it's just weekend at Bernies with him and how he's, they're just dragging this guy around and something else is about to come. I just, I feel for the man to be honest with you. Yeah, we'll go to what we know.

Starting point is 00:39:51 You're talking about horrible things and work in conflict zones? I wrote an article that was published at Steve Bannon's War Room, and where we brought to light the Joe Biden's brother's company got a 1.3 billion dollar contract to work in Iraq and never built anything. How, one point what? One point three billion.

Starting point is 00:40:17 Oh, my God. Now I believe it's like one of those no-show jobs that the mob used to negotiate, you know, or they just don't even have to show up to the construction site. That's amazing. No. By the way, in Basra, they got $46 million to do a project. They didn't even send anyone to, they didn't even hire a project manager to go and pretend to do anything. They didn't put up a porta potty. You know, this is unbelievable to me that you would make money off of the most vulnerable people

Starting point is 00:40:51 in the world. It's hard for, it's hard to believe. Like, I go to these countries, I see it with my own eyes. I do the research, I stare at it. And I feel like I'm lying as I say these words. Because it doesn't seem possible, all of us, right, we live very simple good lives. We're blessed, we live simple good lives. Like, what do I daydream about?

Starting point is 00:41:13 Moitai and protein shakes? Barbecue with my kids at the lake, okay? I had a new book. You know, the best day of my life was a couple weeks ago. I didn't move from my Ottoman for 18 hours. I drank two bottles of champagne, was eating chocolate and reading for 18 hours. That's the perfect day. Oh, ever. He'll never get better than that day. What do these, what is Joe Biden want? He can do boytie and have a protein shake anytime he wants. I don't know what they want. And but you know what you guys are doing is really, you're changing the world because you're getting people to think,

Starting point is 00:41:48 and your audience, you've got Bernie Bros. Trump supporters, libertarians, but what your audience has in common is they really want to know the truth. And I think they want to know the truth because they really love people. And they want to make sure that what they're advocating is actually, the Dalailamas, to say to to to to th th th th is th is th is tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. And, thin, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And,they want to make sure that what they're advocating is actually, the Dalai Lama said, you know, if you can't do good at least do no harm. And I think that's a good rule. And when you want to be active, you can do harm, more harm than good if you don't know what you're doing, right? Yeah. So if you show up and I see a kid wreck on his moped you know what you're doing, you're like I'm going to to to to to to to to do. to do. their. their. their. to do. their. their. their. to do. their. their. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And I'm going, thi. thi. thi. thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And, thin. And thin. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. And, I'm gonna pick him up and carry him off the road. You just did more harm. You wanted to do good, you should have not moved the young man. So, well, that's what your audience has. They want the truth because they want to make sure

Starting point is 00:42:32 that how they live their life is blessing vulnerable people. Imagine a man that's been wealthy and powerful since before any of us were born has more than he could ever use, going and doing a seedy deal, making countless millions of dollars off of the most vulnerable people on earth. Let me tell you, the Iraqis, especially, I love the Kurds, I love the Yazidis, the people that I've met in Kurdistan, the Iraqis, the Yazidi I love, and of course the German Catholic. I'm sorry? Jason, when you first went to Iraq,

Starting point is 00:43:10 did you feel like you were gonna feel for them like that? Did you feel like you were gonna hate those people because they kind of, we were going to war with them and you kind of met someone? What did you like basically expect? What kind of reception? So my best friend has got his PhD in Arabic and he's worked in that kind of a certain space, you know, his entire career.

Starting point is 00:43:33 And it is fluent in Arabic and has been in that Iraq and Syria's whole life. And he loved, so my love, I already had a love because of his love, you know, if that makes any sense. But when my wife heard my voice when I called her from Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan, she said, we can't live there. We're not moving there. You heard in my voice. There's so much like us. I got to tell you, like I love kickboxing. That's a big sport there. And I just love them. I will tell you about thinking I was going to hate. I met with Al Qaeda. I met with Al Qaeda in Sudan in Darfur.

Starting point is 00:44:12 Really? They're called the Janjaweed, the devil's on horseback. We went across the river. This was when the genocide was raging there and the SPLA, which was a Christian Muslim Freedom Fighters, they brought me to the river with three of my friends, and they pulled us across on barrels. I got pictures of this. We dressed up like, you know, Muslim, so I didn't shoot us from a distance. And, but they pulled us across,

Starting point is 00:44:35 and I thought I was gonna hate these people. And it reminded me the time I brought a friend of mine who was Jewish to meet this old man I knew that was in the SS and he thought he was going to hate him and they fell in love with each other. But I thought I was going to hate these people. And we started talking and I realized that ideology poisons beautiful people. Ideology makes good people support really, really bad things. And that these guys that were members, you know, that were that were in their, um um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, theyon, theyo, theyo, theyo, theyo, they, theyo, they, they, they, they, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I th. I, I th. I, I th. I thi, I thi, I that, I that, I that, I that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, I that these guys that were members, you know, that were, that were in the Janjaweed, they weren't monsters. They were, they were, no matter what you think of the U.S. military, you know, and I weren't Iraq, my son, my brother, me, we're not monsters. We were doing what our country sent us to do. Young people they do what their community wants them to do. They're pious and loyal to their family, their friends, their community, their tribe.

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Starting point is 00:46:09 It was wicked. And that's why one of my five whole life principles is subsidiarity, that power and the decision to make choices should be kept as locally as possible. Yes, dude. When powers local. You can't have a COVID shutdown if the mayor can say, we don't have to wear masks and go to your farms. But when you have a world health organization that does, dictates to farmers. I have friends in Kenya who told me they're afraid to go to their farm because it might take them so long to get home and there's a $5,000 fine in a year in jail.. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their thei teir tei today today today today their their their their their their their their their they're afraid to go to their farm because it might take them so long to get home and there's a $5,000 fine in a year in jail, so they're only going to be on the farms for two hours a day so they're not out past the curfew. When you have these sort of, these dictates coming from distant, unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies that have nothing to do with your community. to their, you their, you to their, you their, you their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to do their, their, to do their, to do to do to do to do to do to do to be tie. to be thi, to be to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thi, so thi, so thi, so th. So, so th. So, so th, so th, so th. so th. So, so th, so th. So, so their. So, their. So, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, today, today, today, today, today, today, thi. So, thi. So, they're thi, somea, some, some men becoming a part of an ideological army, the

Starting point is 00:47:05 John Joed, that just want to raise cattle. You get American doctors or American government officials advocating for policies, the people starving in in sub-Saharan Africa because of food shortages. They're not monsters, but this monstrous octopus, as you said, can strangle the world. So I say that one principle we can all agree on, whatever your ideology is, I always say, think local, act local.

Starting point is 00:47:34 Think global, act local. What that means, do what distant, unelect bureaucrats that don't know you, your neighbors, your family and your culture wants you to do. No, think local, think about your family, your friends, your neighbors. If you do that, you're actually blessing people on their side of the world too. We become a menace when we think global. That's when we become the moral local.

Starting point is 00:47:57 Off the corporate nipple. Start, stop consuming, start producing, and dude, stop, turn off, turn off the news, man. Turn it off. What should matter to you is the best way to stop what is being done by this very powerful people all around the world. Is to pull your attention and your energy out of the system and start working on what you're saying on a local level, on your block with your neighbors, your family,

Starting point is 00:48:32 pay attention to your family, love thy neighbor, because when you start trying to change everything in the world, your energy gets lost. The best way to make change is from within, in my opinion. And you lead by example. Well, also, it's what you can toucest. It's what you actually can have an effect on. Because most of those things that you hear about the news,

Starting point is 00:48:53 you can have no effect on. They're, you know, they're out of your realm of control. Unless you act locally, like you say. And then everybody kind of pulling their, pulling their way together. Does that mean you can't help another community? You want to help another community? Do what Jesus does? No, I'm mostly thinking about the hysteria stuff, you know, like the alt-pandem. Some people are like, oh, so we're just supposed to allow this and this happen. You really want to help.

Starting point is 00:49:15 You go into that the mainstream nonsense. Yeah just it's meant to get you to not focus on what's really matters and or to feel defeated that's really what they're trying to do is just make you feel like it's pointless so you just go home this whole virus this whole COVID-in on a global scale is to break the human spirit by people who are trying to hide. I really like what Johnny said there you know that they want to either make you feel defeated like there's nothing you can do or they make you feel like victory's inevitable so there's always the two choices.

Starting point is 00:49:57 Victory is habitable or there's nothing you can do. And the results is you're needed like right now you're needed. Unless they're whipping you up into a frenzy to advocate something really nasty. That's when you know when you feel yourself being pushed into something, that's what you need to be careful. You know, these enthusiasms that we can all be swept away with. I mean, I'm manipulated all the time and I'm trying to not be, to run guard for it, but we can th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. thii, the th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the same the same thi, thi, thi, the same the same the same the same thi, the same the same thi, the same thi, the same thi, the same the same the same thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, the is thean, thean, thean, toean, thean, thean, thean, thean, theanit's thean, thean, thi. the time and I'm trying to not be run guard for it, but we can be easily whipped up into an enthusiasm. And now, we've never been more divided as a nation, not even during the Civil War,

Starting point is 00:50:32 because during the Civil War, you read the paper once a week. You were a subsistence farmer, building a railroad, or who know? You're working a really hard job. You didn't have a lot of money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money've got the phone, you know, bing, bing, we're getting manipulated, whipped into a frenzy. So I think, yeah, we just need to, like you said, Sam, disconnect from the, stop letting them whip us into enthusiasms, know that we can actually be useful. And then the first whole life principle to me is the most important one. And I started as an atheist, an Einran objectivist, and I was searching for why did human beings seem so amazing.

Starting point is 00:51:16 Like as an atheist, and Einran, if you're familiar with her, everything she writes about is the beauty of the human person. And I wanted to, it's self-evident. Like the founding father said it's self-evident. But I didn't, I wanted to know the source. And the end I became a Christian because I realized the only answer you could, I found that makes sense was in the Jewish and Christian scriptures, which is the human person is made in the image. And when you realize that th the one more precious in the world than your neighbor

Starting point is 00:51:46 than the person you see, that everyone you see is worth more than an angel, worth more than everything in the universe, that the most beautiful thing you can see in the universe is your neighbor. That they have an inviolable dignity and work. And once we understand how precious the human person is, how that George Floyd is, that he was the most precious thing in the world, the officer kneeling on George Floyd's throat, the most precious person in the world,

Starting point is 00:52:13 the thing in the world, the Karen and the person's yelling at. They're both the two most beautiful things in the world. Like you couldn't get out of a spaceship and find anything more beautiful than a human person. I agree. There's nothing you would rather see. The one thing COVID shutdown taught me is I love crowds. I love crowds. Give me as many crowds as I can. I want baseball stadiums full. You need to connect man. Everybody's important. Even the crackhead who does a jump off the roof on every World Star hip-pop video. We're all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the their their their their their their their their their their th. their th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. theooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th. jump off the roof on every World Star Hip Hop video. We're all, you know, in the image of God. But that's ancient, that's across all, not Christianity, Judaism, you go deep into Hinduism,

Starting point is 00:52:55 all that stuff is like, we are the image of God, we are the universe. And it's very important that people, and there's been a long game, long con to get us, not to believe in that. You have some, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you have some, you have some, you have some, the, the, the, th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that people, and there's been a long game, long con, to get us not to believe in that. You have some, you send me some notes I really want to get to it because I really, this conversation has been wonderful and I'm very thankful that you would spend some time with us. Personalism, what is that? That's what I call the first whole life principle, the first truth. The idea that that that every human human human human human human human human, that that that that that that that the human, the human, that the human, that the human, the human, the human, that the human, the human, that, the human, the human, the human human, th. th. that, that, thi, the human, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, that, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, the first whole life principle, the first truth, that the idea that every the human person, every human being from the Uyghur and Chinese occupied East Turkistan to all of us, we have an inviolable dignity. We're the most precious thing in the universe. And that's the foundation. I do a spiritual exercise when I'm in airports, which I'm a lot, whereas I'm walking through,

Starting point is 00:53:41 I just look at every person and just try to to to to to to to to to to to to to to see try to see that, to understand that. C.S. Lewis said that God has to put a veil in front of our face because if we saw each other as we are, we couldn't, every human being we met, we would fall to our knees and like stare at. So there has to be some sort of veil that's put between us and everyone. Each one of us is God. And that's what people I just that the fight you know and it's just very very very very namistay dog it's all namistay we all have different words for different religions but I see myself in you and you see yourself and me and that is really the most important and this push to put us all into little boxes has been done purposefully so we don't understand that. I mean, how many boxes gay, trans, this,

Starting point is 00:54:31 this is white, black, there's no such thing as race, right? That's not even real. And they divided us into countless thousands of little boxes when there's just persons. And there is funny. It's just... Well, I mean, Johnny, hold that that thou. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. they. they. they. It's, they. It's, they. It's, they. It's, they. It's, they. they. they. they. th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. th. th Well I mean, then Johnny, hold that thought. It's just, you know, there's this whole say, there's this meme that I saw one time. It was that billionaires, billionaires pay millionaires to convince the middle class that the lower class is all their problems. You know, and that's just, it's just such the truth man. It's like people want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thioluo. thiolu, thiolu, thiolu, thiol. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. J. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. J. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.uth, man. It's just like people want to blame other people. A lot of people that they've never even met in their life for all their problems.

Starting point is 00:55:10 And it's just like it's not like that, man. And it's funny, too, the race thing is where the white supremacists and the racist find their thinne league. They're in common with people in Black Lives Matter. They both want the one to make big distinctions on race and they're and they're really meaningless when you look at it, you know, at a biological level. There are no races, like you said, it's just a really a meaningless distinction. If you want to talk about cultural differences, that's something else entirely. But race. But the weaponization of our diversity has been done on per. That's why I loved it.

Starting point is 00:55:46 I've been all over the world. I haven't traveled as much some, but I've traveled a lot. And man, I love the diversity of this country. I love how we have all these different, we have a real melting pot and that was like a big strength for us for a long time. But over the last couple years, man, they have weaponized that for a couple of decades, too. They've weaponized that. They've really tried to make it so, it's like we all fight all over each other. You know, cultural appropriation is the most biggest joke I've ever heard. That the beauty of our culture of our countries that we take, it's like Bruce Lee's JKD, right, ma', the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they, they, they, they, th, they, th, they, th, they, tho, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and tho, tho, and the, and the, and the, and thea, and thea, and threat, threat, and threat, threat, and threat, threat, and threat, threat, threat, threat, that, the, it's like Bruce Lee's JKD, right, ma'am? We take the best of each of these disciplines to turn into one amazing discipline.

Starting point is 00:56:30 I'm from Hawaii, like in the plantation days we go to martial arts. They had camps based by race. They would have the Filipino's camp and the Japanese camp and the Japanese camp and the kids would go out of the sugar cane fields and cut a square and the Filipino kids..... the the the the the the the the the the Filipino kids would teach a Screama to the Japanese kids. The Japanese kids would teach him Judo, and the Chinese kids would teach them Kung Fu. That's how you get Kajikembo. And those were the original guys that brought martial arts to the states. Yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 00:56:58 But I think your audience, it's got to the transcendent truth, it attracts across. That's what I call the beautiful people, a beautiful tribe. People that don't see all this. You know, my kids are mixed. My oldest two children, half me, half Pacific Islander, and my daughter has a company that makes moumous. Yes. And you'll hear these, you know, she doesn't look really white. Some days if she's tan, she doesn't look white at all. And people will say, you know, but they'll say to her, you shouldn't let me wear this because it's cultural appropriation.

Starting point is 00:57:36 And my daughter has to tell her, do you know the mumu was what the Polynesians took from the white women from New England in the early 19th century and the Hawaiian Aloha shirt came to Hawaii from Japan. It's so beautiful to mix our cultures. I mean again done on purpose by people at the top to make us start to think or brainwash us into a way of thinking that isn't what the universe wants. Yeah, no. That's my opinion. So, dude, you're wonderful. I love this. Transcendental moral order, what is that? Transcendental moral order is that we have to acknowledge there's a law above government's public opinion. There's a truth above the mob. There's a truth above the mob. There's a truth above the most powerful state in the world. And the most beautiful thing is to

Starting point is 00:58:33 find that truth and stand with it when no one else is. All of our heroes throughout history, our civilization was founded really on, you know, Jesus and Socrates were murdered by the governments, the religious leaders, the mob. And the people- Oh, don't even stop there. Martin Luther King, Gandhi, JFK, I mean, we can go on, like all these guys, Malcolm X, they come out that the FBI and NYPD took him out. I mean, we could just keep going on to on anybody who gets too big and scares them into to, to, them into them into them into the the them into the their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, th. And, their, they, they, the, ci, ci, the, ci, the, the, the, the, their, the, their, the, their, took him out. I mean we could just keep going on to on anybody who gets too big

Starting point is 00:59:06 and scares them into a thinking in a different way than they want. They for the longest time have taken them out. You know, I'm... What do we love about Malcolm X? What do we love about Gandhi? What do we love about Jesus? They were looking for a truth, not looking to the mob thought. They They loved other people so much th about th about th about th about thu thu thu thu thu thu. thu. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho tho tho tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their thi. their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiii. thiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th to the mob. They didn't care what the mob thought. They loved other people so much, they're like, kill me. And so I think that all of us should strive. It's hard, but we should all want to be those who order our life to a transcendent truth, not whatever the mob is chanting at the time. I couldn't agree more, dude. And then we have subsidiarity. Subsidiarity is this idea that, think local, act local,

Starting point is 00:59:49 that we need to pull power away from distant, unelected bureaucracies. All the greatest tragedies of the 20th century were made possible by the destruction of intermediary institutions of power and influence, break down the family, the neighborhood, the community, the township, the county, the state, and only have distant, powerful, unelected bureaucracies. Then that's how you get Nazi Germany. That's how you get concentration camps, gulags.

Starting point is 01:00:15 That's how you get everyone in the world on house arrest. Unbelievable, that's how you get a famine. That's how you get a famine. The breakdown of subsidiarity. And that's something all of us can do, like Johnny was saying, what can we do? All of us can say, this is my town. I'm not going to allow the doxing and destroying of people who want to go to work. And I think all the evidence shows that we're safer at work. Our kids are safer at school.

Starting point is 01:00:44 And the world the world the world the world the world the world th tha w w w w w waa tha tha tha tha tha th safer at school, and the world is definitely safer. In Hawaii, we've had epidemic suicides. Kauai had one week where they had more suicides than one week than the previous year. Two of them were young, single parents. They don't talk about this. They would get a couple in LA a week. There was a time they were getting six a day. Six a day. Yeah, and I don't know about you guys, but in my own family and friend community,

Starting point is 01:01:07 the amount of drug overdoses that have happened to my close family members and friends over the past four months is really on. It's really even hard for me to process two weeks ago. I had a friend lost two of her sons the same time to drug overdose. Oh man. Watched his son. Another friend lost his son. And I think all of our families are feeling this, but they don't link any of this to COVID-crisis. Which is just ridiculous, which is completely unnecessary. And just state-sponsored. I mean, like, the people make the drug laws are also the ones who are important to drugs. Yeah, I went to a conference on opioid addictions,

Starting point is 01:01:50 just addled my family. And I went to a conference on opioid addiction. And I was really excited to go and advocate for decriminalization of marijuana is a good way. Because, you know, for a lot of these veterans coming back to get addicted to opioids, you move them to THC and it's just amazing what happens. The whole conference was about how bad marijuana was. It had nothing to do with opioid. It was labeled an open addiction conference, but then they actually all they talked about was we have to make sure we don't decriminalize marijuana.

Starting point is 01:02:19 And I was the only guy they're notthat psychiatrist. I brought up all these studies. And my buddy who's a big psychiatrist in Hawaii, said he's not had one suicide. Yeah. Of anybody that he's moved from opi, from those powerful drugs to THC. He's never, hey, he's not had one suicide. He said he used to get suicides every week of his patients. Now not one.

Starting point is 01:02:40 And it's unbelievable because, that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's unbelievable because, you know, what we've seen right now is, you know, I believe do fractional reserve banking, which is the global system right now that the very powerful masters of mankind have put into place, which is they can, they can loan out ten dollars. I don't even think they need to have a dollar now. That's the new rule. They don't even have to have a dollar. They can just loan out this money. They can make it up on nowhere. And that's done purposefully so that they could, imagine the world is a monopoly game,

Starting point is 01:03:13 and you're the banker, and you can just hand funny money to anybody. And that's what they've done is completely and utterly bribed the entire system and bought out everybody. And now we have the, what we're really finding out right now on this COVID thing is that a bunch of people who are just following the rules, are really good at regurgitating talking points and just are just, we'll do whatever they said are the ones who get promoted.

Starting point is 01:03:46 And they have no problems, whether they're doing this consciously or unconsciously, to push a narrative of that, of those who control the money. You know, like, those who control the gold, make the rules, right? That's kind of the rule. I, because of my involvement in the movie business business, and thics, and thics, and thiiii, thi, thi, I, thi, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, I, that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, tho, I'm, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, tho, tho, tho, they're, they, they, they're, they're, they, they, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the too, too, they. too, too, too, too, too, too. too. too. toooan, too. the too, tho, the the, right? That's kind of the rule. It's sad, no, Sam, I've because of my involvement in the movie business, I've had a little bit of success and in politics. I've gotten to be in the rooms with these people. I've been at a party

Starting point is 01:04:12 with Harvey Weinstein for 30 minutes. I didn't know who he was. My buddy got me away from and said, who do you think you are monopolizing Harvey? thrown. I thought he was just, I'm like, who brought their dad to the party? This guy must be alone. I've been around these people. They're not happy. And they're their first victim. They are their own first. And it's happening right now with some of the people of my life.

Starting point is 01:04:40 They put all their money, all their eggs in a one basket, and tried it like they felt success and on an IMDB page is gonna bring them happiness and their name at the beginning of every show. And guess what? They're going crazy right now. Well, also, I don't know. Did you guys ever see that movie Swimming with sharks? Because it's actually kind of a realistic way of describing. There's just no joy in like those workplaces in Hollywood,

Starting point is 01:05:08 the people who work there. It's just like they're being, their souls are just ground down and there's so much pressure on them to, you know, to put out, I mean, I don't know, it's a wonder anything creative ever gets made at all in that system. There's the reason why nobody's watching it anymore, Johnny. But you know what I mean? You just, they take, they're all really self-serious. They take themselves very seriously. They're not, you know, and there's this, they're

Starting point is 01:05:32 obsessed with this hierarchy on sets and in those, in the corporate structures of the networks. And what you see, John, we've got to overthrow that. There's got to be to be. The way to do it is what we're talking about. You guys are doing it right now though, right? You guys are detached from the system. And Johnny, what you see is that these people come up, they see how they're superior's treated people and they start to believe that's how you treat people. Yeah. But some of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the most of their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. the. the. they of the most successful. And it's as if they're almost like they become Buddha. Like they've been through all, they've just, they've been through everything. And then they become real treasures, the real gems of people. But the ones, the way my buddy, I have a buddy who was very successful and very young. And I asked if he ever feels like feels the the the the the the the the the they they ever feels the their they ever feels ever feels their their they ever feels ever feels ever feels their their their. if he ever feels like he'll be attracted to it again. And he said, you know, these greyhounds,

Starting point is 01:06:25 when they race these tracks, they chase a fake rabbit, a mechanical rabbit. He said every once in a while, a rabbit, the gray hound will break and a greyhound will bite it and it'll cut its mouth and it'll bleed. Those greyhounds, those dogs never race again because they realized they were chasing a lie. He says, oh, snaps. He goes, who I feel sorry for,

Starting point is 01:06:50 he goes, I will never chase that rabbit again because it's a lie. He said, I feel sorry for the people that chase that rabbit their whole life. And I said to him, I said, brother, what about those who bite it time? He said said, th is th is th is th is tho, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th............. He thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi. He goes, thi. theeeats. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo He said, I know. I mean, they're not even as smart as a greyhound dog. The dog just has to bite it once. But how many people, they bite that rabbit, that rabbit take it home and they're still chasing a rabbit the next day. And I don't, and that's just, yeah,

Starting point is 01:07:18 my heart actually breaks for them. And I don't understand it. So tell us. I have seven kids, so like, I was a dad at 18. I was a high school dropout. Dude, you have your own, you have your own basketball team plus two people coming off the bench, dude, so that's the best. Grand kids, right? So look, I was dropped out of high school. the Army because I was last in my class and the troubled youth. So the day I turned 17 I won the Army, I was that soldier you hear about. I went to Hawaii, bang, bang, boom,

Starting point is 01:07:48 I'm a dad. I've been a father since I was 18, and I think that was my blessing because I had to get serious about life. I wanted to give my children something I didn't have, plant them in soil that I wasn't the their, plant their, plant their, plant their, plant their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, I was th. I was planted, I was planted, I'm th. I'm th. I'm thananed, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I. I'm, I. I'm, I'm, I. I'm, I. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a. I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a tapen, I'm a tape. I'm a tape. I'm a toge. I'm a tape. I'm a toge, I'm a toge, I'm a tomorrow, I'm a tomorrow, I'm, things were real, and I learned as a very young man that there's nothing better than sitting it, lying and you know, on your couch at night with your baby on your chest watching Johnny Carson. Like they will never be better than that in life. And so, yeah, I'm so grateful for that experience. What would you say to someone who is in the position you were in high school that may be watching this, what can they do? You know, because I mean, your advice probably wouldn't be to have a

Starting point is 01:08:30 kid right now, I'm guessing. What would you say to him though? If you have a kid I think man up and be a father, you know, but I would be a father, that's what I've learned. I'm going to be honest with you man. I'm not going to be honest with you, man. I know what I hear you thought. I didn't mean to cut you off, but that is, you know, having kids has been really eye-opening for me and I love my children so much. And then when I see that some people like have kids and they don't just do whatever they can to make sure these kids have the greatest lives ever. It's shocking to me. they can to make sure these kids have the greatest lives ever. It's just shocking to me. It's shocking.

Starting point is 01:09:06 And you always see single moms getting shit. And I'm like, why are we giving single mom shit? The people we should be giving a lot of crap to are are these dads who just take off. And don't put in their time, listen, for whatever reason that you are where you are. This happened, and guess what th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they're they're they they they're, they they they they they they they they they they to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be they to be they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're, to be. to be. to to to they're, to to to to to to to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to to th. to to thi. they are. If this happened and guess what, your job now is to rate, these are your genes, man. Single mom are the rock stars of our culture. I mean, we're gonna get people going nuts. Sorry Jason, I just want to say,

Starting point is 01:09:36 we're gonna have people going nuts, oh, they just single mom, blah, blah, they shouldn't have, it's like, dude, things happen. And you know what, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they want, they want, they want, they want, they want, they, they want, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, th, th, th, th............... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,. It's like, dude, things happen in life. Things happen. And you know what? They brought the kid and they brought a kid into the world. And guess what? They're accepting responsibility of taking care of that child. And I applaud them. And if I could help them, I would love to, okay?

Starting point is 01:09:57 I mean, it's just the truth. So, I mean, I mean, go, go, go, go, go, go, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, I they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just, they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're, they're. they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're brought. they're brought. they're brought. they're brought. they're brought. they're they're they're they're they're they're off, I just know what they're going to say. What was my advice, look, you know, when I was, I always wanted to be a teacher because I came from a very chaotic, my mother had me when she was in high school, my dad left in the military and was gone, my mom was married a lot and divorced a lot. So I was a bad student, partly because of the chaos in my environment. And but partly because I have have the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the' the' the the theateateate, I have the, I have th. I have th. I had th. I had th. I had th. I had th. I had th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm thean, I'm thean, I'm thean thean toean, I'm thean, I'm thean thean, I'm thean, I think they're superpowers. So I would say that's my advice, Johnny. If you're not doing good in school, you'll probably have learning abilities like your dyslexic, which to me is a super power. ADD is a super power. You're a Ferrari place on a country road to drive 20 miles per hour. Once you get out of school, you can let it to school, you know, I got out out a the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their to be their, their, their, their, their, to be their, th. th. th. th. thirty, to, thirty, to, to be, thrown, to, to, to, to, tieck, tieck, tieck, tie, you're, you're, you're, you're, tie, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you can let it rip. You know, once I got out of school, I was a very good college student. Was, you know, I got out of the Army and went to college.

Starting point is 01:10:49 So when I meet these young high school students that are struggling, and they tell me they have ADD, I'm like, what 80D means is you are a Ferrari placed in a 20 mile per hour speed limit, like, you will excel in the world. And if you have dyslexia, what that means is you have to solve some life. It's kind of a complex problem, especially school, public school. You've gotten very good at solving problems in a unique way. You're going to be very valuable. If you come from a broken home and you've had a traumatic childhood, you've got the gift of empathy. You can see things in other people that people will miss. It'll make you a good, kind, gentle person. So, you know, I don't understand, I look back to,

Starting point is 01:11:30 I never doubted that I wouldn't live a good, beautiful life. I always had this vision. My daydream was to create an ordered home for my family that I would create. That was my dream since I was like six. I wanted to have a peaceful, joyful home home, to and every teacher I had, I was a very good athlete, but would tell me what a loser I was or how dumb I was or how lazy I was. I don't understand how teachers in the 70s didn't have empathy to understand kids came from different backgrounds, but it is what it is.

Starting point is 01:12:01 Would you? You're a treasure. This is a gift. Jackie Chan and his autobiography called his 10 years of formal schooling, the 10 years of darkness. Those 10 years of darkness for Jackie Chan gave him what he had in him to be Jackie Chan, right? And I think the swans, the kids that don't do good in school many times are swans flying with ducks.

Starting point is 01:12:27 Hey, one of those high school kids maybe that had ADD or something, I know you joined the military and it made you a better man, you had a good experience. Would you recommend joining the military like right now, an 18-year-old kid comes out, you look at him, you know he's not meant to go to college. What do you tell him? No kid though, just basically what does he do? At some kids I would tell yes, some kids I would say no. Really for me I get a lot of people saying should my son go in the military? I'm like no. The military to me is an elevator. It's going to take you up or down faster than't even get you a night in jail. That if you make in the military, it will get you seven years in a military prison.

Starting point is 01:13:11 You know, you can make some, you sell weed as an 18 year old to your friends. That's one thing. You sell weed to some guys in your unit and CID gets you, that's another story. And I've seen this happen to people that I love. So I think you join the military out of a, and this is not why I joined, but I joined because it got myself into a pickle. But you should join the military out of a love for your family, friends in your country and you're willing to die on behalf of your country's defense.

Starting point is 01:13:48 And you want to gain an experience with a good citizen and speak wisely on foreign policy and the use of the military in the future. And if that's why you want to join the military, then you should join the military. If you're going for college or benefits or to get your act together, that shouldn't be the main reason it could end in catastrophe. I think you should go out of a severe sense of commitment. You're writing a check that's saying, payable up into my life.

Starting point is 01:14:13 I had an experimental vaccine that I didn't have a choice to take. What, damn. or bone marrow again. So there's that. So that's the kind of check you're writing we joined the military. I want to ask you one last thing. Humane economy, you kind of sent this. This is the last point you wanted to talk about. What does that mean to you?

Starting point is 01:14:35 Because I believe that's 100% what we have to get to. With this cutthroat scumbag thing that we we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that we're that thing that we're doing right now. Like capitalism is great, cronyism is just disgusting. And so what's your thoughts on a humane economy? That's what a humane economy is. It's recognizing that we live in a series of commonwealths. So it's a free market set within commonwealths. One commonwealth I have is my family. One commonwealth I have is I want to be a good steward of wealth for my family. One commonwealth I have is I want to be a good steward of wealth for my family.

Starting point is 01:15:06 I want to work hard to care for myself, my children, and my posterity, my in-laws. Also, I want to be responsible to my neighbors, my family, my friends. So it's a free economy set within the responsibility of a commonwealth. The understanding that we are members of communities, and we are privileged. if you're clever, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to to to be a to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toooooooooooeck., the the theaq., tooomeck., tooom If you're clever, if you're hardworking, if you're smart, but you have to be a steward of that wealth. You should steward wealth.

Starting point is 01:15:32 Every dollar is a soldier you should put to work. Put to work for your good, the good of your family, your friends, your neighbors, and your community at large. And that goes with the final principle, which is solidarity. Solidarity is a radical commitment to living a life in service of the vulnerable. And the vulnerable doesn't mean poor. You could be poor and very strong. You could be working class and be very strong.

Starting point is 01:15:55 If you're a very wealthy person, wealthy Jew in Paris in 1940, you're vulnerable. If you're Chinese in Indonesia, you could be wealthy and you're vulnerable. So it's not just about wealth, but it is about, and again, I asked that jiu-jitsu of it all. You have to be thoughtful and serve the vulnerable around you. Is it your friend who is the biggest realtor in town, but you know he took Vika and out your medicine cabinet. Now I know my buddy's vulnerable. He's dealing with the wealth the the th wealth th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi- thiol-in-in, thiol-in, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th. th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi. thi's thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi, is thi. He took like it and out your medicine cabinet. Now I know my buddy's vulnerable. He's got he's dealing with something right. Came over to my house and went to the medicine cabin. Okay, I got to live with my brother now. I got to be in service and salaried with him. So it's just a radical commitment to living a life in service of the vulnerable. It's natural when you find out your friend won the lottery, that's the guy you want to call.

Starting point is 01:16:45 But don't call him. He doesn't need your call. He's good. It's your friend. You found out his wife left him for his boss. Yeah. That's the guy you got a call. So order your life to serve the vulnerable.

Starting point is 01:16:59 And that doesn't mean do gooderism, that just means is your brother having a drug habit, he's having trouble kicking, that's the one you want to hang out with even though you might want to hang out with your other brother who things are going great with because this is going to be a headache. But solidarity is just a radical commitment to standing with the vulnerable around you. Yeah, wow, ma'am. Great. I have a podcast called Zero. It's a spiritual podcast. I'd love to get you on that sometime, talk to you about that and what that's about.

Starting point is 01:17:33 Man, great, great, great episode, man. I'm really happy that we made it happen. I know we had a, you know, we had to move it around and I'm so thankful that you were kind enough to work with us. So thank you, Jason. Jason, can you tell our listeners where they could find you? Yeah, well, my movie to movement, movie to movement.com is my movie website. We have a new movie called Divided Hearts of America, starring Benjamin Watson, tied for the New England Patriots. We explore what's dividing America and we reveal the secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret secret the secret that the secret that that that the secret that will unite us as a country that will be on pay-per-view everywhere September 14. Is that the secret to defeat conspiracies too?

Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, the secret to unite us is seeing people as images of God. That's the secret. I agree. And then the vulnerable people project, you go to great campaign. You can see the work we're doing to defend the most vulnerable communities in the world. And I have a podcast. Can I say the name of my podcast? Hell yeah, you can. The Jason Jones Show. It's the biggest podcast in the world from the west side of Oahu. But, uh, much respect.

Starting point is 01:18:39 That's where you can find me. Jason loved it, man. You have an open door. Any to to come on and talk, please let us know. You're wonderful. I appreciate you. And we'll do it again soon. Hey, dude, your dogs welcome too, dude. Tim Fall Hat's for the dogs, brother, for the dogs.

Starting point is 01:18:59 It's all good. Don't hang up, but we're gonna end the show, but I just want to talk to her quick. I appreciate you guys. Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, Xavier Guerrero. Great show, again, August 22nd, we will be on the corner of Hollywood and Vine, and we will be marching to protest against child sex trafficking, and then later that day, we will be at the unit, at the world famous comedy store, tode................ tine, tine, tine, tine, ti. ti. ti, ti, ti, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, J. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the too, the the the th. today, too, th. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, tothen later that day, we will be at the world famous comedy store doing another live tinfoil hat from there. So thank you guys very much.

Starting point is 01:19:31 We love you very much. We appreciate you. We appreciate all the kind words. Hope you enjoyed this. Got a lot from it. And we'll talk to you soon. Namest day. I'll take care.

Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #352: Imago Dei, Transcendent Moral Order and a Humane Economy with Jason Jones

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