Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #356: Demonic Spirits, Exorcisms,Tarot Cards and Sleep Paralysis w/ the Rogue Ways' Lindsey Scharmyn

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

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It was fun, I love that episode. I can't wait till we do it again. We had the IDF machine. And now she's here to talk again. She's got a great podcast called Rogue Ways. Please welcome back to the show. Lindsay Sherman. How are you? I'm so good Sam. Thank you so much for having me. It's a huge honor. I want to say what's up to all the swarm who came and said hello after the last episode and subscribed and commented and shared the love. It was it was overwhelming. the thu, th th th th th th th th th tho tho thu, thu, thu, thu thu, thu, thu thu thu, thu, thu, thi thi thi thi thi thi to to tho tho to to to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. th. to to th. th. Please to th. Please th. Please to th. Please to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, the the, the. theean, thean, thean, thean, thean. thean. Please the energy and it's always fun to talk to you and I thoroughly enjoy doing that because like you know we could sit in there we can do geopolitics forever and

you know just like you know debating what politicians are what's their motive what they're gonna do are they gonna save us and I'm just you know that can get super depressing, you know, but stuff like that, like, I don't know if what, alchemy, I love just the thought of alchemy is exciting to me, the occult, all that stuff. I'd much rather talk about that. You know, I'd like to at least sprinkle it in more than just focus on that, which was like the big part of what this show first started started started which was, you know, we've got to stop the cleanse. And then you just, you go deep enough, you start to realize that, oh, you do that, I got to

save myself and all that stuff. And those conversations are great. Real quick, again, can you tell us a little bit about rogue ways? Yeah, rogue ways is actually exactly what you're ta to to to to to to to to talk.... I hit I hit on everything now. I don't want people so bogged down in the details because it's a dark set of rabbit holes and you can get lost down there under the you know layers and layers of mud and just never climb out again and it's really easy for people like us to do that and to get bogged down in it and so roadways I really want people to you know focus on the hope and the positive and I don't it's not a love and light sort of people people... people. people. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to to to to th. I to th. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to theee. to to the. the. the. the. to and the positive and I don't it's not a I'm not like a love and light sort of person even though people I think take me that way but I do want

people to feel empowered to be able to exactly what you said save themselves and change the world because that's really literally where you have to start and that's the only thing that we have control over right so I go through everything you know know, conspiracy, consciousness, culture, all of it is fair game. But I like to always try to bring it back to that personal and what people can actually do with it, you know? It's so interesting. And the more I do this, this show, the deeper I start going in this stuff, the more I start realizing there's so many layers to this. And these layers, It's, you know, I think it's th it's th it's th it's th th i it's th i it's th i it's th i it's thi it's thi it's thi it's thi thi thi start realizing there's so many layers to this and these layers it's you know I think it's simulation but it's very much also like you

know a video game and like you have to unlock certain layers and when you unlock these layers you get you see things differently you know I always talk about it's like it's like Super Mario and Donkey Kong versus Super Mario and Super Mario Kart. Like it's it's the same guy but it's just he sees a different world and as you unlock these things you see more but that also means you can let in more too and sometimes there's some dark energies out there. For sure. There's dark energies and there's dark entities and there's the ones that we can see easily we can point to YouTube you know we can be like you're censoring people and we can like you know identify some of this the Clintons all that like you said and then there's the kind that are a lot

harder to point to a lot harder to nail downthose things like the unseen and the mysterious really and when they do we tend to do it in this way that's very like you know like I don't know. Yeah and it's just like oh there's that crazy person again like whatever it's like well a lot of people actually have pretty crazy experiences that they never got an explanation for you know. Well because we're you know through the Rockefeller school system, we are plugged in the cookie cutter, and we're given a set of rules to live by. And if you obey those rules and regurgitate those rules, and those talking points, you get rewarded.

And if you don't, you get pounded on. And I am barely functionally literate, barely. I mean, good luck getting me writing. Johnny has to write everything out. I'm functionally illiterate, let's just say that. But I do believe in my heart of hearts that the laws of physics, and I say it's a lot, we're simply created to box us into a certain way of discussion,

to seeing things. And if those things don't, if things fall out of that, then you got to dismiss it as not possible. And when, again, it's like when you start unlocking stuff, you see more, but also when you start locking up stuff, you only see into a small kind of certain way, which is very interesting. And what I wanted to to talk to you about is kind of what you would, you know, told me you were interesting coming on show talk about.

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Go ahead. Now, a possession, is that something that's consensual? Like you said, you've agreed, or can it be done against your will, as far as you know? As far as I understand things that cannot be done against your will, but your will, your will letting it in can be pretty sneaky. Like they're really, really sneaky. They know how to get you tricked and get you to agree to levels of being. That's where the we can't come in that's where the you're letting it in you playing it is letting you inside so if you don't play it you can watch someone play I don't tou tou to tou to tou to tou to tou to tou to to thee the too'u the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the the the to to to the the to to the to to the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to beg. to beg. to beg. to toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to, they say, am I attached to you? You can't get rid of the board.

You have to burn it. Sometimes it comes back. I don't know. It gets creepy, right? Lindsay, can someone the next day regret letting the demon in and can they meet to the demon? Are they allowed to do that? No, it doesn't work as easily in a demonic, I wish. I wish it was that easy. Tell us about your attachment. So it was actually a lot like

you were just saying that the but it wasn't a Weiji board it was tarot cards actually and I still read terro which might be confusing for people but if we get to the end of the story you'll understand why. So basically I did not understand what terra cards were. I didn't understand what demons were. I didn't have an idea of these things at all. This was not part of my experience of life or my belief system at all. It was a materialist, if anything. And I had a sort of Christian background, but it was just like a thing we did. We just went to church.

We didn't really talk into like the nitty gritty beliefs of the religion. They're just kind of doing it because it's a thing passed down in their culture. But I went to basically this sort of party and this girl who was a drug addict and I was also drug addict at the time if it matters to anyone. But I, yeah, hi. I feel much better now. But she was doing terror readings and so everybody was getting a terror reading and I was just like, oh, this is like a weird card game. It's supposed to like tell your future and like, you know, that's kind of stupid. I don't really believe in this bullshit, but whatever.

I'll give it a try, you know. So she does a reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a reading, a to, a to, a to, a to, a to, a to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, her reading on me and part of the way she does her readings, and this is the way I learned to do it from her, was that she starts it off by inviting a spirit in to guide the reading. And that was, oh man. That was it. That was the end of that story, basically. Like as soon as you say to any, you know, these things are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are things are things are things are things are things are thinks are thinks are things are waiting around basically for your consent. So if you're like, yes, come in and help me with this, they're going to, I think.

And one did. That's freaky. And I had no, like I said, no understanding. I wasn't like, oh no, don't call on spirits. I was just like, okay, that was a weird thing to do. Whatever. That sounds weird. So when she said that, were you like, what are you doing? Or you like, okay, this sounds like fun. I was just like, that's a weird thing this girl does, I guess. I'm just like, you know, I was like,

she's gonna give me this reading or something like, who cares? I didn't really, I don't really remember having like a lot of thought or emotion about it. It was just like a like a like a thing like a thing, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that, a. that's, a. that, a. that's when my attention was peaked because my reading was really, really weird. And that if you know anything about Tara, like, that's just the regular, like, deck of cards, it's the minor, it's only like 22 of these cards, they're much more powerful and archetypal and like these foundational powerful forces in our lives, you know, and so they come up more rarely. And if anyone's been doing terror readings or knows about terror readings, their cards are reversed sometimes

and that's also, you know, at most And so she was doing my reading and every card she turned over she started getting more and more reared it out and freaked out. It's a 10 card reading. And by the 10th card, 100% of my cards were major arcana. So that's like almost half the major arcana cards in the deck and they were all reversed. And she was like, she was like, and she was like, what the fuck is wrong with you. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr-I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. teeeeeee. tea. tea. tea. tea. teea. tea. tea. te. And she was like, you know, so her her response to that experience freaked me out more than anything because I didn't even know what a terror there was. Even though we might not know the exact cards, can you tell us what the cards you saw and what those cards meant or are we going to let shit in? I can, no, we won't let anything in. We're in a protected space here. Okay, thank you. We're good. But I can show you some of my cards that are major arcana. You can get an idea like here's one.

You're just talking about alchemy. This is an alchemy card. That might have been. Was that represent? This alchemy card represents the sort of exactly what it looks like and the idea of alchemy itself is that you separate things into their component parts. Everything is sort of a dual nature. There's like masculine, feminine, fire, water, you know, dark and light, moon and sun and alchemy is you're separating them out into their component parts and to getting them their most pure aspect and then recombining them into one basically. Sorry, so that, when you, when they they they they they play, when they play, when they play, when the, when they play, when they play, when the game, when the game, when the game, when the game, when their, when their, when their, when their, when their, when their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th.them into one, basically. Sorry, so that- When you play the game, you have to shuffle the cards,

right, just like your poker or something? Is there a certain amount? Like a certain- If you do it too much, does it work? Can you overdo it? Yeah, I don't think you can overdo it. When I'm doing readings for people now, I shuffle it for them and I just do it until I feel like it's ready to go. If that makes sense, it's all it's all based on like intuition now.

And I do not invite any spirits in. Yeah, that sounds like a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Maybe you shouldn't go to terror readings from people tweaking their balls off. Yeah. I've been up for four days. All the dark arts hang out. Yes, exactly. Because also, I mean, I genuinely feel like when we're doing drugs like those, especially hard drugs, you know, we're vacating our self, we're vacating our spirit,

we're vacating our mind and our body to some extent and something wants to take that spot for us, you know, so it's easier to get attachments in those states of mind when we're not fully fully fully ourselves, right? So I think there's that already going on and then she invited this in and so then, you know, things got wild. It took me a long time to figure it out though I did not, and anyway feel like anything significant I can't believe there has been some teen horror flick about this. I know. Yeah. Yeah. What's the next card? Do you have any other those cards? Do you know any of the other cards that she uh that she showed you? No, I don't remember all because again, at the time I was like, I don't even really care about this moment

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lessons that these things are Archons or whatever told her so later on I have this Buddhist woman on named Von Gall and she's like listing the exact same things that are just a read it said now here's an interesting you know you were just talking about you know speed let people in slowly things what if it's like that somewhat happening with homeless people? Yes. What if they're so deep into their drug use that demons have attached to them to them and that's why and it just yeah done and you know you see them talking to themselves maybe they're talking to their demons you know like yeah Mark Marin has a bit one of his one of my favorite Mark

Marin bits was that you know we don't know who that homeless guy's talking to himself what if he's really really the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's really is is really th is really is really they's they's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their is their is their is their is their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theymea. their their the't know who that homeless guy's talking to. Like, we think he's talking to himself. What if he's really talking to God? He's like, I can't. And God's like, you have to run the world. He's like, I can't do it. You're like, you're like, you know, looking at that you know in a flip of that? That's what could be happening with demonic possession that these homeless people are just possessed

Absolutely. I mean I I can tell you how I know for sure that's happening if you want to jump to the crazy stuff. Yeah, totally 100% like so if we're fast forwarding a lot the fast forwarded version is I okay. So we'll get then hold that thought that thought that th th th th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the that the that the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the. the. the. the. the the. th craziest. Yeah, totally. 100%. So for fast forwarding a lot, the fast forwarded version is all of these. We'll get it, then hold that thought. I just take me through this because I just think this is crazy. Johnny's so scared he won't even move. Look he's frozen. He's doing his own planking mannequin thing because he doesn't want the zombies the fuck, the fuck, and are you afraid of demons? Johnny, being from North Carolina? Being from North Carolina. Wait for us, Deacon, Deem. I mean, I grew up, you know, Southern Baptist,

we don't really talk about that stuff much in the South. You know, I don't know, I don't know why it's just not part of our tradition as much. But yeah, yeah, I mean, the exodus is just always always always shit out of me because I, you know, believe all that stuff. Well, you know, it's something interesting about that, Johnny, is that like your faith does determine how you see things, meaning whether you think they exist or not. You know, I got brought back onto the CW for that mysteries decoded. And Johnny, you saw that video that I they they had us look at which was that guy in Turkey who had that side his that's crazy his little mom and pop store and he's like has his back to the street and he's like you know the

vegetables that he's selling he's playing with them and out of nowhere in the video this guy just appears, right? Out of nowhere, and it's on video, and you can look it up, and he just walks by, and he taps the store clerk on the shoulder, the guy turns around, suddenly there's this truck that comes around, and the gate lets go, and the gate swings around, right right, and the the the, and the time the guy turns around and he misses

him. The guy's like, what the fuck? I just got chills. Looks over and the dude who tapped his shoulder, gone. So the reason I'm bringing this up is because this happened in Turkey and the reporter who reported when it went national or international was on the show and he had an interpreter who was also from Turkey, sounded very westernized.

And we were asking him, do they believe in like ghost? Or like, and in their religion, I could get this wrong. So if anyone is, is into Islam could tell me, they don't believe in ghost, I believe. They have gin. What they have gins? Yeah, which is basically demons. What would that fall under though? I don't think a demon's like, ah, you know,

if for one day I'm not gonna be an ass. Hey, do watch yourself. Yeah, thing moves on. Well, there's this interesting idea that you have sort of like guardian angels and then demons and they're both, they're both after your soul basically, right? And so if you could die today and it would serve your guardian angels better, they would kill you, they would let you die. But if it would serve your demons better, they're gonna keep you alive, or you know, like if they want you to live. Oh, that sucks. I don't know if that has any merit, but there's one possibility.

That just scared to shit out of me. sure it's better for me to be alive. For your, hopefully for your angels sake too, because you don't want to be serving demons. That sucks. There's this crazy video on YouTube at a soccer game about, and somewhere, and I think in the Middle East, maybe in Africa, one of the Muslim, African countries. You can't tell from the video. But this guy kind of has a collision with another guy. And the the title, the the the the the the the the the the ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti tode tode to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe. toe. t. te. tod. tod. tode. tode. tode. tode. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. t you can't tell from the video. But this guy kind of has a collision with another guy and the head the title for the video is like soccer player possessed by a gin or something like that. And he kind of bumps into another

guy and then he just starts, his back starts arching like this and he starts flipping and like doing all these weird, it's very strange. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I think probably he had some kind of brain injury. Yeah, he's just like spasping. Yeah, but it's- What's the brain injury that makes you flip around like a fish out of water? Well, I mean, if you think about it, like people who die of tetanus,

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You know, it just, it's a, b-p, bop, that's the work of the devil. I love this venue. But yeah, I think the guy just got hit in for them. It's interesting. Yeah, because you'd have electric like electric electric. So so you you do this reading and you let this guy in at what point do you start to sense something's going wrong? It took me a long time yeah true who knows what it's gender is you assume it's gender

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now because like an ancient, ancient, and people got to flip out on the, oh Sam, you're no, I'm just telling you what, old, old, old knowledge, ancient knowledge is that everybody has male and female in them. Yeah. And it's a little bit of both. Instead of like in society, some people want a billion genders. Some people want like two genders. And it's actually somewhat in between, which sounds crazy. But the reason what you said is like the sun and the moon and the vision

is like goes back to why I'm on this kind of like run of calling like Elster Krolley the sun and the moon and the vision is like goes back to why I'm on this kind of like run of calling like Elster Crowley the the Carlos Manstia of the occult because you know so above so below which is what you're talking about what it opposite you like it's like what you see on the outside is what you see on the inside what's above is what's below it's kind of this like it's the it's the you in and the yang the y yang of the y yang of the y y y the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th of of th of th of th of th of th of th. the the th of th of th of th of th of th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I I I I I I I I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the inside. What's above is what's below. It's kind of this like, it's the yin and the yang of everything. Am I off on that one? I think that's kind of what we're talking about here. And once again, El Sir Crowley is a hack.

He's just a giant hack. Yes, he absolutely is. I think he just wanted a part of this dark arts thing, which is to flip everything that is sacred and make it into like a dark, dark energy, you know? And to pretend like that's somehow like, you know, enlightened or like, oh, it's so magic and spiritual. Yeah, it's a more beta-cut crap. I'm so tired of these beta dictators like acting like they run stuff.

I mean now everybody's telling me the stories that Alster Crawley was like a James Bond type. I mean, dude that fat guy is like a super spy. Barbara Bush's dad. Barbara Bush's dad, man. Just go through a time war poll and just even see trude all over the place. So okay, Sam's's going to shut up, which I'm sure everyone's going to enjoy. So this thing starts happening slowly, you start sensing something's not right. So basically I started having sleep paralysis and so and I also didn't know what that was at all. I just knew that I would wake up in the night and I couldn't move and I would be very aware. Yeah, it's scary. It was scary. It was scary. And then I had this person

who invited me to this sweat, which if you know, a Native American sweat lodge, it's all, you know, you cover the structure in blankets, you bake it out of like bent poles, and there's a pit in the middle and you burn rocks for like days and days. You do all these prayers and everything. You throw the rocks into the pit in the middle of the tent and you throw water on it. It's like a steam bath, basically. But it's ceremonial. And so this woman invited me and a bunch of people to it. And again, I'm like smoking crystal meth. You know, whatever I can't, and I'm like, theyrown, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thr, thr, thr, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, it, it, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, th................. It, th. It's, th. It's, like, th. It's, like, like, like, th. It's, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. It's, like, like, like, th. It's, like, like, th. It's, like, th. weird sweat launch thing like whatever that is and at the sweat lodge thing I was telling someone like I have because they were

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It still kept happening. And so I was like, I don't know, there was no internet at this time. So I had no way of like trying to learn about it or, you know, understand what it was what it was. And eventually, and I also didn't know this happens to one-tenth I think of sleep prowess's people, but eventually it culminated in an event. But right before that event happened, things started happening around me that were pretty weird. So in the meantime, I had started doing my own terror readings, and I also would invite this spirit, which I believe was the same spirit every time, to do the readings, and they were crazy accurate, like that people would like freak out when I do terror readings for them.

And so I developed this name in like high school is like the tweaker who would do terror readings, I guess. The tweaker card reader. Yeah. That sounds like some bigy smauls right. The tweak guitar called Rita. I was such a weird anomaly. Like I was like 4.0 student who also like did a bunch of really hard drugs and did terra readings for fun on the weekends like.

Well sometimes people get into drugs because they, their head so active. Yes. And that's just a way they want to just be able to chill out for two seconds. And when you're tweaking you just want to chill out for about three days. Yeah, just endlessly. And by chilling out I mean doing like non-stop activity. Yeah, well that's how great. So, so women, when they become tweakers, they become Bob Villa. They want to be, they want to flip houses. They want to like, they want to just fix the house, right? When guys become tweakers, they're just, they're like to to to to to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to to just, to just, th. to th. to just, thi, to thi, to to to to, to, to, to, thi, thi, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to me, to, to, to, to, to to to to to thi. And, thiweakers, they're just, they set high scores on porn hub. And it's just like, they literally break, they're like, I've seen all the videos. Getting it going, boar and up. They're just waiting for more uplaid. Yeah, it's such an, it has something to do with the chemical, like, you know, the Japanese made it, but they gave it to the Nazis and the Nazis just tweaked and you know they put some occult shit on that action as well and it just flips everybody

into like again going back to the yin and yin and yin and you know the everybody has male and female energy in them yes and that's where we end up getting to so you were like a fucking teenage girl fucking fixing all your family's house furniture. Yes. You know you are multitasking. Right, multitask are extraordinary. Yeah.

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You're like something like moves in front of you and it doesn't make sense and it shouldn't have moved, but you're like, it was like, it was like, it was like, thrown, there's water and it just moves. It's like, it's something like that I just like, thin. It's like, it's something like that. I just like, who knows what the hell? So at the time that these things happened again. I was just like, I don't like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, like, like, like, th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, I's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. trying to like get my attention or like fuck with me or something. Do you remember a particularly striking example of that something moving? Yeah, the one the one that sticks out the most because there somewhere was just literally something in the middle of a table would suddenly be on the floor and I'm like that's how like there's no breeze there's nothing like how did it move at all but the one that thoe. that the one that really really really really really really really really really that really that that that that that that that that that that thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. that's that's that's that's that's happening was that there's this flashlight that we had that was plugged into the wall to charge, this is a rechargeable flashlight.

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And it was the moment where I realized that really something was happening and that there was an entity that was, had been doing all these things. And it all sort of came together. So, so that. So, so you, there's a moment where you're like, okay, something is going on here. Right. Did you ever have a moment where maybe you were communicating with it? Yes. Like, hey, my name's Bob. I'm a dark entity from the 37th parallel.

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you know a few days of that. And so I and I had been trying to figure out like what was that that I felt my dog's growling at it, is it, you know, a ghost? Because that's what I want to think, because I don't want to think that demons exist, right? So I'm like, it's got to be a ghost. Like, it's just a ghost. So I have the sleep paralysis again. I wake up, and this time it is kind, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. that's, th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, out-of-body experience, which I also have had others since then, but in the sense that I'm not really like out of my body fully, but I can see the room around me perfectly as though my eyes were open.

So clearly I was out of my body and I was seeing with like my mind's eye or my astral. I believe in all that, man. I talked about before. I've seen like I have memories of me walking into a room and then me seeing it from the other side of my house I grew up in. That's the memory. I don't have a memory of me walking through looking. I have the memory of me walking through the door. It's so crazy.

Yeah. Well, this is what I mean. I think more people have the memories the the people people It's so crazy. Yeah. Well, this is what I mean. I think more people have had experiences like that than not. I think people really got down to it. They'd realize like, we have to admit there's other things going on. We just don't have a materialist explanation for them. But we have spiritual explanations for them.

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Like can I call for Tupac and Jeffrey Epstein I want to find out what the together not together I'm not together I don't purposely call anything and what I actually do is I create a circle of protection and I call in my own spiritual allies to protect me and the person getting their reading and the only thing allowed to come through the cards or into the cards is that person their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toge. to toge. their toge. to to toge. to toge. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. the person getting their reading. And the only thing allowed to come through the cards or into the cards is that person, their highest self, and their chosen, consciously chosen spiritual allies, meaning that if you have a belief in God or Jesus or whatever, they can work with the cards but nothing else can. And if you don't have a spiritual belief like that, then just your highest self or however people want to think of that can. So I have had people's dead relatives seem to come through, but I have, I don't know. How do you know it's their relatives? I don't know anything.

I mean, as I'm doing the reading, they're like, that sounds like something my dad would say and this card is totally exactly what he is like and it just fits. Now now a lot of times you know we've seen we've seen guys that are just supposedly channeling people on television and the whole the whole critique is that what they're doing is very very general fishing to get to a a specific thing like old reading they called.to a specific thing. Hold reading, they called. Like, I said, you've lost, a loss, oh my God, yeah, yeah, was it an older relative? Oh my god, yes, was it?

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that they're like, okay, wow, like this is exactly, exactly what I needed to hear, exactly what's going on, it fits perfectly with this. But the way I do a reading, I don't, I don't guess what is going on. I'm like, here's what this card means. Here's a few various interpretations of it. This is the symbolism of it. My feeling is that it might be like this. Like does that relate to your situation? And then they'll, you know, figure it out if it does or not. So I don't, I don't say things like you're going to die on August 26th. Like your dead mother is saying to change your underwear. Like I don't, yeah, specific. Now, have you ever had any, and then we'll get back to your demonic attachment. The terror? Have you ever gotten something, you're like, okay, I don't need to tell them that.

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Has anyone ever done that to you? Generally, what they do instead is I think also like what any of us would do, we'd be like, well, no, because I mean, what it actually is actually saying is that are perfect. Oh yeah. Yeah. I like, it's pretty much like telling you this and they're like, no, no, no, see it's like this. I'm like, okay, I guess. So interesting. I guess that's what you want to take from it. But that's like the thing right.

Our higher cells are like, dude, just, frequency right now and I'm not listening to what you're talking about. You so you're you know you really seen this demon thing this entity you realize that you have a a dark passenger how do you get rid of that dark passenger what do you end up doing well? I'm glad you asked I'm glad you asked and sorry was that the wasthat the conclusion of the sleep paralysis event? Oh, Johnny would the save, you're off the show, John. No, so how does that, what happened with the demon? So I, okay, so it's, so I see it now, and it's this black mass that has just come through my door. Again, my dog's on the other side of the door whining and grow, thing and grow, to the experience as well. And again, I'm trying to rationalize this, tell myself it's a ghost, and these things I have now learned are like incredibly psychic to the, they can read every thought

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that they know them all. Oh, snap. You never going to beat a demon at its game in my experience and opinion. And so it's hearing me basically tell myself that it's a ghost. And in my head I'm even thinking like, what if it's just a little kid who's confused about what dying was and they're just lost. And it in that moment starts to morph into the shape of like a small female child. No. It's like the most most thoom that I could see because I have this incredibly soft spot for animals and children, you know, like I'm a very loving, compassionate person. Yes, yes, exactly. That thing I have going on about being a female makes me into that.

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like you would imagine a ghost would kind of look like a glowing sort of yellow shape, but it still has this black, black aura. That part didn't go away. And so I'm like, well, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th., th., th., th........ th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, thi, tho, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. to, to, th. to, to, to, to, to to, thoooo. to, too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to, tho. like, well, what can I do to help this little kid? I'm thinking in my head. And I literally this, it's like a voice, it's like somebody was speaking to me. It's not my own thoughts. It's not my own voice. It's like a strong voice says. That's just what it wants you to think. And my like blood ran cold. And I, it, it's this happened so quickly because I believe that that entity heard that voice say that too and knew that like, oh my time's almost up

or really she's gonna figure it out. And so I asked for help. So it says that's what it wants you to think and I question, oh, it's not a little girl and then it starts moving towards me. And then I'm like, well, what what what does thi what does thi what does, what does, what does, what does, what does, what does, what does, what does, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's thi, it's that's that's that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, and then it starts moving towards me. And then I'm like, well, what does it actually want if it's all, and then I'm remembering the thing falling off the wall, the flashlight, and this other thing moving, and like my dog growling, and I'm like, a bad feeling I had, I'm like,

oh, this thing is like, to God it's like I asked for help as it's like right about to hit me. Oh man. And there's like a like it's moving towards me and there's like a barrier like a pierce and it hits the barrier is actually aiming for my heart chakra, my center which is again like the chest the sitting on your chest or the old old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that's that's th. I'm th. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I the. I the. I'm the. I'm the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I to to to to your chest or the old hag syndrome has always focused on this area. And I think that's because your heart chakra is the center of your being and sort of the center of your energetic, like your soul or whatever. And I think that's a place where they would like to get attached because I think that's probably the hardest place to detach an entity from. You think if you would have got a to to to to to to to be, the to be, the, to be, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their.a, their.a, their, the, their, their, their, their, their.a, their.a, their.a, like, like, you think if you would have touched you? Like if you would have got to you, you would have been like possessed or extra citizen type of stuff or you need a priest and the whole works?

I do think that yes. I think, I think that that's its goal and that would be more like what we would call an actual possession. And it still wouldn't be that level, which I think, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th and th and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. too. toe something they call a perfect possession and it still wouldn't be that level, which I think when you're at that level you maybe can't get out of it ever hope maybe I don't know. But I think it would have been a lot harder than it was for me and it was already very, very very hard for me to eventually get rid of it. Were you using that as an adjective or did you that literally, like you thought, I mean, you were seeing it's aura and it was black. It's, it's, yes. So I also, um, see oras in real, in real life. And I didn't necessarily at that time, or I didn't know what they were at least. And it looks exactly like that, except most people don't have any black at all, and it was pure black.

But before that, it was just like that nebulous like cloud, which I think it's what we would look like if we didn't have a body, you know, like our aura sort of like goes around our body. If our body's gone, we would also be like a nebulous cloud. But we wouldn't be black. Black is pretty crazy. It was pretty terrifying. Yeah, the worst part is when it hit this shield thing that I had asked for protection, the sound that it made on that sort of astral level was like something that I can never fully describe.

And it was like, if you can imagine, like the hardest, like metal band, and also a building is crumbling behind it, and also like a hundred people are being tortured and dying at once, and also like, you know, dogs or howling. It's like every like loud to come. So mega death video. Is that what you're talking about? Like, it was painful?

Like it was a painful event for the entity? I think it was angry. I think it was so pissed. I think it had planned this moment for so long and it thought that it had me like paged and cornered and that it was was was was was was was was it didn't at the last second, I think it was just really, really pissed off. Because if I didn't expect you to call Jesus or call on God because he thought you were obviously not a Christian.

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And both of those are horrible. Neither is one that I want in my life. And so I'm really stressed out. I'm freaked out. This thing is in my house. I don't know what to do. And I am having this experience where every time I close my eyes, I see like the worst horrible torture scenes of like, like hell, basically what I would imagine hell looks like of just like people and just disgusting things that I've never seen in movies before I had no frame of reference for that either. It's not something that is for coming the the the the the the the the the the th for coming th for coming th for coming th for coming th for coming th for coming th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's to to to be thr-I's to be to be too, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I to me. I to me. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin, thin, thin. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm tei. I'm tea. I'm tea. I'm tea. I'm tea. I'm tea. I'm te. It's not something that is coming from me as far as I'm concerned, and it won't stop. And so it's really, really horrible all night long. I barely sleep. And I go to school the next day, because they're school the next day.

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But I'm like, dude, if anybody will understand what has happened to me, it's going to be them. So I called them, you know, from a pay phone because we don't have anything else and I'm like, I'm at, I'm at school, but I need to come over and they're like, okay, like, this is rational somehow. And so I go I go to tho th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that. the. the. the I tell them what happened and they're like, that's a demonic attack. Like, you've been attacked by demons and you need Jesus. And I'm like, okay, like, how do we do it? Like, what do I do now? And they have me say this prayer. And you know, it's basically inviting Jesus into your heart and your life. And you know, it's basically inviting Jesus, will you come into my heart my life? I literally felt from my head all the way to my toes this like, like all the

darkness was gone. And I didn't even realize how much it had been clinging to me and like filling my mind and making me anxious and all those things since the night before until I said that moment had that feeling a full, complete actual relief. And I, and I, and I, and I, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th. And I, th. And I, th. And I, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the thi, thi, the the their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. thi, thi, thi, thr-I, thrown, thrown, throwne, throwne, throwne, throoooooooooe, the. And, thean, thee. And, the. And, the, th moment had that feeling of full, complete, actual relief and I was like, oh my God, it's a, it really was a demon and it's gone now and invoking Jesus actually is the thing that ended it. Calling on God for protection helped in that moment, right? But the thing that actually got it off me was was Jesus. And I'm not... What's your take on Jesus? I'm not, I'm not, people won't probably believe me, but I'm not actually, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. that, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi really really really, thi really thi really really thi really thi really thi really really thi really thi really thi really thi really thi thi thi's your take on the whole on Jesus? I'm not I'm not people won't probably believe me but I'm not actually like what people would call a Christian. I don't I don't love the whole history of of the church and all the things that go along with it but I have you know I'm like you can think of it in so many different ways you can think of it have you heard of likerake and morphogenetic fields? Nope, but I'm interested.

Johnny has. Yeah, so his idea is that like, Johnny's been weird chat rooms. He's heard all about that. Yeah, you know. His idea is that this, you know, your thoughts and your actions create like an energy, field and the more you do them, the more energies in that field. And so the the the more the more the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the the. the. the. the. the. the. tho. tho. tho. the. the. the. that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's is that's is that's that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is the the is the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the. the thean. the. thean. thee. that that that's that that that the. that's that's the over time and so Jesus, the word Jesus, the idea of Jesus has been gaining traction and energy and positivity for thousands of years and so you can believe in Jesus as a real entity, a real person who exists and you know he works for Christianity and he's a real dude and he'll come to you when you call or you

can think of like thousands and thousands of humans have put positive feelings and ideas into this word and when you say it it, it just fills the room, you know? That, listen, this is what I've been telling everybody's going to happen with Q. Oh, good point. Q. Q. Q. started as. And I'm a Q. Tart Sam. I get it, man. I'm telling you. You want to call it?

Deep State. Zionist, the military and drugs, whatever it started as. What it will become is what you're, what was the term you just said earlier? Morphogenic field. Morphogenic, morphogenic field. Yeah. It is going to become something because people believe in it and its energy is just going

to keep growing and it's going to get away from whoever's doing the drops and it's going and maybe the drops are real or maybe the drops of fake. I don't know I'm not whatever you believe and I'm not trying to argue with that. What I'm telling you is what it will become and that will be decentralized VFVendetta movement and that's what I see it's going th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I'm going th, I'm going thi, I'm thi, and I thi, and I'm thi, and it's going thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's th- thu, and it's thu, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their become. And that will be decentralized, V for vendetta movement. And that's what I see it's gonna happen. I think you're absolutely right that that is a huge possibility. Because that's the thing, it's the same with that Keck magic stuff with Trump and like, you know, like all these things is like all these people putting all this energy into it and it doesn't mean that we can control it. Like that thing now has sort of maybe almost a life of its own, like a tulpa or whatever.

I'm telling you man, you've got to text me that term because that's exactly what I see is happening here. Yeah, you should get Rupert Sheldrake on and then you should make him do Rogue Ways with me. Oh, I'll do that. What I want to to to to to talk to you about is what we're going to hear in the comment section. And I want to address this. But you were just a tweaker and this was tweaker, uh, what's the word when you're affected by drugs? Yeah. That's what the guy. So did you have anything ever once you got sober that happened in the realm of this? Not necessarily that you got attached, but somehow these dark spirits and all that stuff came, and you had interactions kind of like this, not on drugs. Oh yeah.

Since then, because I haven't done hard drugs since I was probably my early 20s. I'm 38 now, and so for what, at least least 17 years I've been having experiences not on drugs ever. That you know I still drank up for a while too but I don't even drink now but um but a lot of them have happened when I'm sober and and when you asked earlier you know are are homeless people talking to demons and I'm like oh yes they absolutely are because thou thi thi that. thi. thi. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they they're they're they're they tho. tho. tho. tho. throo. thr. thr. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I te. I te. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try experience where entities who are attached to other people like know that I know what they are and that they're there sort of you know if I can see like or as I can sense sort of presences and and stuff and they know that I can and so they like to respond to me so if I'm like walking by a homeless person sometimes they'll look at me and they'll talk directly to my thoughts and that can't happen.

Especially from like a homeless person who's who knows on what kind of drugs and who knows and what level of their own psychosis to read my mind and respond to me. I think that that is entity attachment and I think that is who they're talking to when they're talking to people and it's sad because then you look at this that cycle I mean how do you get out of a cycle when you're living on the streets and you have demons feeding off of you and you're on drugs all of the time. That's I totally believe that I saw a guy when I first moved to LA this was kind of one of my series of welcome to LA experiences just saying fuck you and fuck you and punching himself in the face like arguing somebody to th. th th th th the th the th th the th the th th the th th th th. the the th. th. the the th. the th. th. th. the th. the the th. th. th. tho, the tho, thi thi tho, the the street the street thi thi thi threaty threats threats and you threats and you threat. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th the streets the streets the streets the streets the streets th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, the the the the the to to the to the the to the the the the the the thean thean thean th and fuck you and punching himself in the face, like arguing somebody, fuck you, no, fuck you and they're punching himself in the face,

and I totally believe that. Because I mean, there's no, it's just, you can tell that some people are just engaged in some kind of battle with some self-destructive force that really wants to take them down. I totally believe that. Yeah, and it there, there, there, there, they, they, they, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu. Fffffffffffffu, to fcuck, thu, thu, thu, thuuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th really wants to take them down. I totally believe that. Yeah, and it's and it's real. You know people, that's the other thing. You can think of it all psychologically too. You can say like, well those are that person's suffering from schizophrenia and they're experiencing this and that. That's just another name for it as far as I'm concerned but it's the same exact. I've had Jerry Marzinski on Rogue Ways and maybe you've had him on, I don't know. No, Jerry Marsenski. No, he's rat, you should get him on because he's, um, he's worked in the field of psychology for decades and he, he had similar types of experiences where he's like, I can't explain these things any other way except that there are some, some sort of spiritual entities

that are attaching to these people, talking to them, influencing them, controlling them, and doing things that humans cannot do at all. And he has so many stories that you're like, and this is from someone who's, you know, that's their, that's their educational background, that's their professional background, they're a materialist at heart, but they had to come there they couldn't explain in any the their their their their their.. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tha, that, that, thathea, thi. thi. And tho, tho, thi. And thi, and tho, and tho, and thoomomorrow, and thoomoomorrow, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and th. and th. and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, and the. And, and the. And, and the. And, and the. And, and the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And the. And the. And, the no other, there's these things that happen that that we just can't explain away. In LA there's a lot of like psychic readings, you know what I'm talking about? You see them all over the place and they never go down. The only things that don't get shut, I mean it's like the most economic proof business I've ever seen. I mean we have we have Kenny Rogers roasters closing down and everywhere and that's chicken, but you know psychic readings, the world could melt down and there'd still be psychic readings everywhere. Yes, well and those a lot of those people will tell

you to they're like we you know I work with an entity its name is blank they're the ones who tell me these things and that that freaks me out too because I think again I thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their. their thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to toe. toe. toe. te. te. te. to. te. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. ths and that that freaks me out too because I think again I think there's a lot of people who think these entities can be good or that they can make deals with them or that they can sort of be the one in control. And I don't think that that's true and I think there's always an imbalanced relationship going on and I think the demonic and the entities are always the ones end of the deal and that the person involved in it doesn't realize what they're giving up. There's this term in biology that there's no biological free ride. Like if you're taking a drug to get a high, you're gonna pay for it later.

And I think it's, there's probably kind of the same thing going on there. You know, if you're getting something out of it, Exactly. And that's other things. So these entities, like we were saying earlier, they want to feed off any energy they can. If they can feed off, you know, the fact that I'm this naturally bubbly, like compassionate loving, like I just spew love everywhere I go. They're like, oh, I'll eat that. I'll attach to you and just eat all of that from you. If you're this person who's super depressed, if you're like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that I that I'm that's that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I that I that I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that I I I I that I that I that I that I that I that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that I'm they'll eat that too. You know, if you're sorry but like jacking off all the time and like corn all the time, like they'll eat that. Like they do not care what the energy is. They just, if it's free and you'll let them have it, like they'll take it. I especially with the sexual energy like you just mentioned, is that misdirected or can you actually harness it for your own to your own ends? What do you think?

I mean, I think that if you, just like sort of how I was describing my terror readings, you know, like I have this protection around me and I create it sort of cyclically and energetically and I, I believe that it works and that's why it works., and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, the, the, their, their, their, their, the, the, especially, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the readings, you know, like I have this protection around me and I create it sort of cyclically and energetically and I believe that it works and that's why it works. And then I, you know, invite my higher self maybe to do my own sort of readings for me or invite that person's hire self to do readings for them. And so I think you can do things positively with the sort of energies and abilities that you have as a human being and that you don't that you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you don't th you th you th you the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. I'm to to to to to the the. I'm the. I the. I the. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thrownean, tean, tean, tean. I'm tean. I'm tean. I'm tean. I'm tean. I'm throwne a human being and that you don't need to ask spirits for help and demons for help basically. And I don't think that there are good spirits in that sense. I think that there are good spirits and entities, but I don't think that they're going to do those, they're not going to do card tricks for you, you know, like that they're doing much more important work sort So so so so so so th th th th th th th th. so so so th. so, so, so, so, so, so, th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the do the, they're not going to do card tricks for you, you know, like they're doing much more important like work sort of. So if you have something helping you, I think it's probably negative and you maybe you don't really realize it, but I think

you have your own skills just as a human being that we don't necessarily, it's the same thing like we don't necessarily in our culture, or ora, I th, for th, for th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thithat's evil. I think some people might call it magic. You know, I think I do these readings. Some people might call it magic, but it's not, it's intuition and working with our own psychology and our own emotions and our own spirit, spiritual energies, you know? I don't think that's evil. So yeah, I don't know if that answered your question, but. It is, you know, for me, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. to. to. th. to. to. to. th. to. thi. the to. the the the the the the the the the me, I said before, is just your ability to control and affect the energy that is dissimilation. That's my opinion.

That's what magic is. And these spirits are just energy forms within assimilation that you could let in or you could keep away and all that stuff. I believe it's all, like I've said, man, I believe what we live in is every single movie ever made all going on at the same exact time. So it's all possible, aliens, demons, you know, creatures, whatever, you know, lizard people, you know, multiple dimensions, time travel. And the movie may depend on who's perceiving it too. Like you could be living one movie and I could be living a totall th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. I thi. I thi. I thitime travel. And the movie may depend on who's perceiving it too.

Like you could be living one movie and I could be living a totally different movie. Is there a genre too? What if, what if we are all ourselves in our simulation, but when we walk by somebody else's similations, we're NPCs? We're somebody else's MPC. You so... Because in Hollywood, have you ever heard terror readings going down in Hollywood? No. Like do you don't think anyone's possessed or celebrities they don't

fuck with that? It's not... Oh yeah, they fuck with that. Yeah. I think... I mean... I think... They eat babies. I mean like I think they're doing way darker shit than terror readings. I mean, dude, Jennifer Lopez straight up says she's into voodoo. We talked about that before. She's put voodoo curses on ex-boyfriend. Her one just died, her ex-husband's like, dude, literally that vagina is possessed. I'm telling you right now.

I mean, we see with these witches, which witches witches the time. Do they start dating guys and dude, they're just, these guys' lives just crash and burn. It's seriously, there's people who, I can't remember who now, because I am really bad of pop culture, but there's people talking about like their alter egos that they invited in. I think Beyonce has one. I think like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their like have names they're like oh, that's like Walter Walter takes over. We just did a whole episode on that. Yeah. And all these pop divas all have alter egos. Demons. Yeah, I mean you can see it too when they're like come in.

If you watch the videos you can see like that moment that like a demon takes over. Well, yeah, look, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, does a wardrobe change every time one takes over, so it's like, I mean, she's getting outpits. And what if MK Ultra is just them breaking you down so you let in different demons and different personalities? That's what I think. Yeah, I think that it's really dark. And then I think look at them times when they like break down and they're crying for help. I'm curious. I'm like like like th you th you th you th you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I'm like th. I'm like th. I th. I th. I th th th. I thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. I'm curious, Lindsay, what do you think of representations of this in popular culture? Do you think that they are trivialized to some end, like to make people think that it's more of a more of entertainment than something? Yeah. I think it's like that quote that Kevin Spacey says in the movie that I can't remember the name of where he says the greatest trick the the the devil the devil the devil the devil the devil the devil trick the devil the devil trick the devil the devil th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they's thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's is is is is is is they's is is is they's is is they's is is thi, thi, thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're thi. thi. they're thi. they're thi. they're thi. they're they're they're they're thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're y says in the movie that I can't remember, the name of where he says the greatest trick the devil ever played was making the world believe it didn't exist.

Yeah, and that is, I think that was usual suspects, right? And we're talking about Kaiser So say. But I also believe that saying is simply said so that people believe in the devil, and I believe the devil doesn't exist. I believe it is dark energy of the black cube and all that stuff and they created Lucifer. I'm not saying there's not bad energy in dark energy because that is in part of the black cube of Saturn worship but I'm saying the devil itself in hell they created that Satanism in to me was created so no one looked at Saturn worship. Well, Sam, you know, I mean at this point that may be a distinction without a difference though.

If like she says we have over the generations packed that word with so much meaning. Ah, Johnny. It could be, seriously though, it could be something that really has a lot of power on its own, apart from what you, which I definitely think that infrastructure you just describe exists. But it could be that the, you know, the devil has this, has its own sort of mojo. Its own field. And I think it's the, it's like I was saying too, I think you can, you can give the same exact phenomenon. We're just calling it slightly different things. Yeah, totally, you see that with religions. I mean, it's every religion. It's trying to describe something.

Wow, wow. Well, Lindsay, you came, you kicked a whole lot of butt today. This was so good. Yeah, I could do, we I got, you know, so why don't you tell us again where you can find you on the internet and where we can find you, your podcast. Yes. So I would love it if people go to Rogue Ways. that's my hub where they can get, you know, to everything that I do.

Terror readings. I make organ jewelry that people can buy to keep themselves, have some good energy around them. And I also write books, and I just published my sequel to my novel yesterday. So there's two out of three books done now. The sequel just dropped yesterday. It should be available on Amazon today or tomorrow, depending on how that works out. It's called Earth, a trough in time. It actually has many of my own experiences embedded into the sort of storylines.

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Guys, thank you guys so much. Thank you, XG. Thank you, Johnny. And guys, we'll talk to you guys soon. And we appreciate you and I hope to see everybody in Wisconsin, Appleton, Wisconsin, the 10th 12th. We'll talk to you guys soon. Take care.