Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #359: Did Shapeshifting Jesus Battle The Archons For Control Of The Simulation with Miguel Connor

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Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? Oh, yeah. And welcome to Tinfoil Hat. You know who I am?

Starting point is 00:00:50 You know wha'am? You know I'm here to do? I'm here too. There we go. Back in the studio with the boys. The boys are back in town. Yeah. Join me as always my good friend. What a wonderful human being with

Starting point is 00:01:07 a very nice. I learned this. I go to a Mexican barber right now. Having a trim beard is very mochismo in the land community. Please welcome Xavier Guerrero. How are you, dude? Good. Thank you for the compliment. Dude, it's all about that line. That's very important to the Mexican. Yep. As young man, you go with the line, and then at the top, then you get older, boom, you go with the mustache. Like you're either running in a cartel or undercover, working at a cartel. Joining me, as always is a good friend of mine. He just got back from North Carolina, or as we call it, 1985. Please welcome.

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Starting point is 00:08:11 Don't you worry about that. Guys, I'm so happy to be back with you guys. next guy on the show. He's a young Christian warrior. He's from Ian Bites. Please welcome. Miguel, Connor. Connor, how are you, brother? No, welcome. Thanks for having me here and as far as football, the bears. Oh, man, we got bears and out. We got Panthers and two Raiders and the bears. Oh my. Real quick. Tell us about your Ian Bight. What is that? It's a popular podcast that deals with anasticism and hermeticism, ancient and modern. And I've been doing it for a while, writing books, and yeah, as I like to say, it's gotten more and more popular because as I make the case, we are living in Nostik Times

Starting point is 00:09:05 and we are living in a Philip K-Dick world. Okay, so when you get into Nostic Times, what do you mean by Nostic Times? All right, well, here's the example. Two days ago, my friend Chris Knowles from the Secret Sun. He put out, he posted, he posted, or did a screenshot of Tim Pools post. And Tim had put something about how South Park had predicted a t-shirt that LeBron James was wearing about vote and die. And Tim goes, is this real?

Starting point is 00:09:40 Did I die in 2016 and now I'm in living, I living in hell and I thought man that he has been He's had he's having a moment of noses Which is basically taking the red pill and the black pill he's realizing that we live in some sort of messed up simulation? Things aren't what they seem and sort of the whole software of the universe is breaking down and And it's just getting badier and I'm sure Tim and others are sure tomorrows are s-tahem, they. they they they they th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's he's he's he's he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's he, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's th, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's having thi's having thi's thi's thi's ththe universe is breaking down and it's just getting bad here and I'm sure Tim and others are suspecting there are some sort of shadowy creatures out there that are ruling this prison planet if you would. Oh my god. I see that more and more. I'm sorry. We're into it. This is what we're talking about here. So you brought up red pill. Let's go through the pills.

Starting point is 00:10:27 There's the blue pill. There's a red pill, and then there's the black pill. The blue pill is the black pill. The blue pill is you take it. You don't know anything. Blue pills. Is that what we're talking about? The blue pill is, uh, blue tube. American boaters for American Met, okay? The red pill is you wake up to what's going on, you see it,

Starting point is 00:10:49 but what is the black pill? Well, the black pill is sort of a existential despair, if you would. And I would say to really, uh, to really have that nosis and see the world, you have to take the red pill and the black pill. I might show, I call it a red pill suppository because you've got to stick it up all the way up because we are such programmed robots in this world. But when you can see the reality of the universe, not just the reality of the universe, but as Mercier, Eliade de Mistre Tremendo, the horror of this universe, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and the world, and the world, and the horror, and thianianian, and the world, and so the horror, and so thian, and so thian, and some, and some, and some, and we thian, and we thian, and we thian, and we thian, and we thian, and we thian, and thian, and thian, some, some, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, the, the, the world, the world, and the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, thr-i, the thr-a, thr-i, thr-a'er, thr-i, thr-i, thr-i.i, theyyi, they, thr-I, thi of this universe, that we really live in some sort of mechanistic universe where we are ants, but at the same time we see the truth, then we can start doing something about it.

Starting point is 00:11:32 In anosticism you would say, yeah, this, we are basically meat sacks, trapped in this world, but we do have a part of us that is infinite. You could be your consciousness, the nosticsics the nostiostost. The the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge the knowledge, the knowledge, the knowledge, th. thia, thia, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. t. treme, treme is treme, treme is treme is treme is tha, thae is thaeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thae. thae. thae. thae us that is infinite. You could be your consciousness, the Gnostics called it the divine spark, and this through the knowledge of who we are, we can escape or at least restore ourselves to who we are and escape the grasp of whatever rulers we have in this age. I guess the Gnostics would have called them the Archons. Damn, and here we are.

Starting point is 00:12:02 We're into it. This is what I'm, what's all about. So before we get into the Arcons, because that, I love talking to Arcons, dude. Like I was thinking the other day, like, what are my favorite topics, man? The occult, not like trying to learn about the occult, but seeing the occult in like politics, you know, entertainment, sports. The Black Kluber Saturn? Yeah, that's the occult.

Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, that's one of your, dude, every time we talk about that. And then just the similar, like the ancient knowledge, Nostics stuff. Like I really, really love this. What do you think we live in? You mentioned a prison planet. What do you, what do you mean by that? Well I mean, again, what I'm saying is something that these ancient heretics 2000 years ago said, but it's not, it's becoming not so wacky or conspiracy theory. I mean, remember it was, Elon Musk and Neil Degrassrasit Tyson and other prominent think, even many physicists think we might live in a simulation.

Starting point is 00:13:12 I mean, one of the definitions of code, as a Perry Marshall talked about, to have code, which is at least evolution in the universe, you have to have a creator of the code, a medium, and somebody who receives the code. So the idea of living in a simulation is not as crazy as people might think is they accused the Gnostics centuries ago and persecuted the shit out of them for it. But I would say in my perspective, I would agree with Tim Pohl, we are living in hell, and I think the Gnostics would say we are the highest plane of hell there is because this universe... He froze. Yeah that's a disconnect. That's a heart disconnect he just lost the signal. All right Danny give me those real quick.

Starting point is 00:14:00 There were a... Campbell said he said... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Miguel, you froze up there for a second, so you were talking about how this is the highest level of hell. And then you dropped out right there. Oh, so yeah, this is, we'll see the highest level of hell. As a Zanostic priest said, the first sound of the universe was an ome, as the Easterners might say, as the Hindus might say, the first sound of the universe was munch, munch, munch. And it was even Joseph Campbell who said, we exist in a universe where everything

Starting point is 00:14:37 depends really on consuming another life form. Everything depends on eating someone else. And whether it was evolution of or some insane God or extraterrestrial force, it's not the best possible universe. And as somebody, people who have noses like myself, we realize we really feel trapped very much for your listeners. Again, the great Gnostic gospel of our times might be a movie like The Matrix or a TV show like Westworld or the Truman Show or a dark city. And those shows really, or those media show what the Gnostic plight is of living and not even a false reality, but a fake reality.

Starting point is 00:15:20 Have you seen Dark City? Yeah, it's great, right. I didn't appreciate it when it came out. I totally appreciate it now. It's wild. That's a wild film. That's a wild film. Love it. Love it.

Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah, it's a wild film. So agnostics work, where can we find? Can we find in the Bible? Oh yeah, you could definitely find it in the Bible. I mean, again, one of the rules, I like to say whether it's a nosticism or conspiracies, everything you've been told is a lie. Everything you are or I am is a lie. We are very much programmed. History is written by the victors. And a lot of what these ancient empires did was not just create some religion, but appropriate a religion. And besides persecuting the Gnostics in ancient times, what they did is steal them and then incorporate it

Starting point is 00:16:11 into their own canon. So if you look at the Bible, that is full of Nostic material. And I would say one of the places to look is the letters of Paul. Now, I would advise you to maybe put on your They Live glasses and see Paul for what he is because take away what they taught to a church, take away the false pastorals,

Starting point is 00:16:36 take away everything that you've been conditioned to the rest of the Bible. Paul doesn't give a shit about the rest of the Bible. He doesn't care about the Gospels. He's his own thing. But as a Greek Orthodox scholar David Bentley Hart argued, if once you see Paul for what he is, it's basically the story of this world being ruled by Archons and Paul uses words or phrases like the rulers of this age, which means ruler in Greek is Archon. Anytime in the Bible somebody says ruler, they're talking spirituality, they're using the term Archon for these fallen angels or extraterrestrial beings. So when you read Paul, you see he sees the rulers of his age, you sees the God of this world that that are ruling, that have taken over the universe and this aion or alien, or, or the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, which, which, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theylerauleoleoleoleauleruliauleruliauleru.ea.eauleru.ea.eauleru.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.e. the rulers of his age. He sees the God of this world that are ruling,

Starting point is 00:17:25 that have taken over the universe. And this Aon or alien being called Jesus has to come down into this world and defeat the Archons and sort of save humanity from being trapped. And again, I'm talking narcissists. But this is David Bentley Hart, who's a very Orthodox, he's a Greek Orthodox scholar, very esteemed in the church. Johnny's over there cleaning.

Starting point is 00:17:51 This guy just basically said that they sent Jesus down here to basically wake it one up. Rock and roll against some Harkons and nobody cares. I mean, this is the greatest thing I've ever heard. This is like some weird ass, straight up up like mortal combat shit right there. Nobody cares. Everybody's just sitting here he's cruising Instagram chicks and you're just cleaning up and this guy just said that Jesus is Neo and he's here to save us. Cleaning is this is next to godliness so okay good point Johnny. Dude that is awesome. So you know we've had people in the past come that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus that Jesus. that Jesus. that Jesus that that that that that that that th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to come shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit to shit shit shit shit shit. this is this is this is this is to hen. hen. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the to come. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the to the to the to to to the to to to to the to to to next to godliness so okay good point Johnny dude that is awesome so you know we've had people in the past come that Jesus was an alien

Starting point is 00:18:29 Jesus was a star seed to my Christian friends that listen to this I would like you to know that in my heart of hearts I would tell you that this is not blasphemy this is not being disrespectful to your thoughts and your beliefs I'm telling you these perspectives actually to me to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeus. theeeeeeeeeus. theeee. theeee. the. the. the the. is not being disrespectful to your thoughts and your beliefs. I'm telling you these perspectives actually, to me, empower what you believe. They're compatible. I really think they are. I really do.

Starting point is 00:18:53 I've had people try to come on here and be like, I'm gonna prove that Jesus never exists. I go, why do I want that on the show? I also, most of the people who have really, are really experts in the field of, you know, Jesus history all say he existed. Yeah, I mean, Von Galt says there is actual logs of him in a, you know. My professor in college is this guy called Bart Airman. He's like one of the top New Testament scholars.

Starting point is 00:19:20 And he, I mean, he defends the idea that there was a historical Jesus. And most, and he's like, I mean, he's the expert in the field, according to some, anyway. So, yeah, I mean. Well, there's a whole bunch of other things, and we're going to get back to this spot. It's like, he could have been a real guy at this time. He could have been a real guy long time ago, and just the story gets retold again. And then there was a time that he was missing, and they say that that's why they just name him something else.

Starting point is 00:19:50 Well, that's what the Buddhist think, he went to the Far East and you know, and it's like, you remember when you go to martial arts class, we saw a picture of Johnny in. What do you do do do do???, and you, and you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, and that's, and that, that's, that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that sign up for, that's what the G said they had to sign into and they have a log where they say he's there. But back to Miguel, because he's like, am I talking, am I talking? But it's like, dude, that to me is amazing. And how much more exciting is that story? To think they set this dude down like in a straight up like, like super action hero style to go fight these Archons.

Starting point is 00:20:28 But that's, I mean, that's really what the world was. I mean, Paul isn't just again, make, pulling shit out of his ass. This was the tradition that you have, which was already before there, but like the book of Enoch, the fallen angels that come and they start mating with women. And you wonder if that was a good thing or a bad thing.

Starting point is 00:20:48 Even in, for example, in the book of Daniel, there's this cool passage where Daniel's there and like the angel Gabriel shows up and Daniels like, you know, where you've been? And Gabriel goes, oh, I was fighting the prince of Persia. Most people who read the Bible think he was fighting a human being, but no, in Greek I was fighting the Ark on Persia, so the angel Gabriel was battling the ruling demon that ruled the Empire of Persian, some astral battle. So this stuff is in the Bible,

Starting point is 00:21:19 and it was in the air about these beings controlling Earth. And you read the gospel of John. This is so great. Jesus seems very much like a stranger. He is like I am not of this world. The world will hate me because I am here. He keeps saying things like I am this like he's teaching us wake up. I am divine. I am from heaven. Even in one part and that's in John 1430, Jesus says, I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler, Archon of this world is coming, and he has no hold on me.

Starting point is 00:21:55 In John 1, the author says, We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. So this stuff was in the air, something radical or weird. It's just, we've been that we that we that we that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've been conditioned that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've that we've the power of the evil one. So this stuff was in the air, something radical or weird. It's just we've been conditioned to read the Bible a certain way. Yes. But when you read it with open eyes for the first time, you go, holy shit. Hey, Miguel.

Starting point is 00:22:15 Hey, Miguel, how much of this is something we've lost? Would this be something that was secret knowledge at that when, you know, when, you, the Bible or would people have known to interpret it this way back then? No, I think this was something for the initiates. I mean there was two types of people and even Jesus says in the gospel of Mark to the rabble I speak to the parables and to those who want my mysteries I will teach them the secret teachings. So the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their th. So th. So thoes. I tho tho tho thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was thoes. I was was was thoes. I was was thoes. I was thoes. I was was thoes. I was was the. I was the. I was th. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was the. tho. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. I was tho. tho. I was tho. tho. th mysteries, I will teach them the secret teachings. So in ancient times, or even in today or through history, there was those who wanted an experience. Nosticism is a shamanistic, ecstatic religions. And it was very much in vibe of the ancient mystery religions. Oh man, I love it. And all that. So if you had a thirst and you wanted to go,

Starting point is 00:23:07 like when you read their text, you're going on an out-of-body experience or you're going to the underworld, then they would teach you the truth about the universe and how it's run, because you would need to know these demons, these demons, these angels because if you're traveling in space or you're going on out of body or even if you're going inward, you might meet these beings and creatures or they might want to take you out.

Starting point is 00:23:30 So it was always for those who wanted an experience with the divine who wanted to expand their consciousness, but for most people it'd be like, you know, be good, don't sin, blah, blah, blah. It wasn't something everybody, somebody like Paul was very educated. He was a rabbi, and he simply went on his own thing. He grabbed onto that vibe of the book of Enoch and the other Jewish mystics of the time. I love it, dude. So, you know, it's like you're talking to Judaism, we're talking Christianity. We'll throw, I believe Islam in that like at the I like in reality we're all

Starting point is 00:24:06 pretty much Hindus right I mean really at the end of they we're all Hindus everything is a derivative of Hinduism and it just in it's different now I'll have inevitably in the comment section someone will try to convince me that Buddhism is a satanic trick I I I don't get that and I don't want to be disrespectful because I enjoy the conversation as long as you're not super negative and you're so I you have zero videos uploaded and zero subscriptions but and you have a private account and you're just talking shit outside of those people like I like to hear the stuff. When David Ikeke, ah, things, they're all aliens.

Starting point is 00:24:48 Do you think he's right? I don't know. I mean, David I've read his articles on Gnosticism, and he has a good grasp of the Gnostic Gospels, the Nagamadi Library, the treasure of Gnostic gospals that was found in 1945. But he sort of moved away from metaphor, because I feel, how do I explain that these beings, these otherness, they're not gonna get caught

Starting point is 00:25:12 and they're gonna mess with your mind. I mean, Carlos Castaneda and Jay Wiedner and some others have talked about how these Archons are more like mine parasites. They're able to live in our minds and control everything we do so we make sure that we are always obedient and under their heel. And even Whitley Strieber, if you're aware of his work, he always said when he met these alien beings that would visit him, he always said look, they're not embedded with us. You've got it wrong. We're embedded with them. They're in control of this universe, like in the Matrix.

Starting point is 00:25:46 I mean, the Matrix is complete control of things, so it's only a small group of rebels. So I think once we, they may be aliens the Arkham, but once we start painting them down into an exact thing, that's when we lose the game, because they're going to shift things on us immediately. They'll shift reality so that the laws that we thought we knew or the history we thought will be completely different. So I try not to go too far into that, but I do like David Dyke's work. Now, you know, everybody battling.

Starting point is 00:26:18 Is it a, you know, globe that we live on? Is it a flat earth? Is it a simulation? I mean, do you think this is... But is it like, where is it located the simulation? Is it a holodeck somewhere? Is it like, you know, there's always this theory that we're like in the heart of like some giant being? Like, where does in your research? Where do we exist? That I can't answer. I mean, again, it's like what Morpheus tells Neo, you're in a prison of your mind that you cannot taste or touch or smell.

Starting point is 00:26:55 So, but I would say that the entire universe is probably a simulation, and we're trapped in it. And it's a matter of waking up and finding different levels. Again, in the ancient Ostics, their, I, I, I, and, and, and, and, and, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.ea, thi.aui. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, it's a matter of waking up and finding different levels. Again, in the ancient Gnostics, their solution, and they took this from the ancient Egyptians, because Nosticism is very much an ancient mystery Egyptian school, was to be able to take these astral flights out of the body, and then come down with information to free yourself

Starting point is 00:27:23 and then help others free them. But as far as we know, I mean, I don't think, I think science is just getting caught up with the whole simulation things. So hopefully in the future, we'll have some break those, although I think in the Arkons, we'll probably shift the, shift the rules a little bit. Flip the game. Flip the game. Flip the game. Oh man I could talk about this all the. You say that neat that Jesus got brought to us right? He got sent to us. Um, yeah, I grew up Catholic. So the Virgin Mary was a virgin.

Starting point is 00:27:56 No, dude. Was she like a spirit? Is that how it got sent to us? She going up and she hung up with some aliens got a little weird one night? See and that sounds like Neil. To me that sounds that s that s that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that sounds that s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s out like that's that's that's that's that's th. that's like th. that's like like like like like like like like like th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he. he. he. th. he. he. he. the the the the th. the. the the the the. the the the the. the the the. the. the. to to the. to to the. to thi. th. to to to us? She hung up with some aliens got a little weird one night. See and that sounds like Neil to me that sounds more full house powers. Yeah I do. I think he's like Vince Carr half man half amazing but Jesus was like half profit half alien that's my opinion. Yeah I mean it's the Gnostics wrote a lot of gospels it's like they were writing fan fiction, you would think, even though some of them are as old as Christianity. And I thought it was, it's pretty cool because they weren't writing history. It's almost like when you write fan fiction, you find out more about yourself and your soul,

Starting point is 00:28:39 than when you try to write history. So they wrote all these texts and they had all these theories about Jesus. Some said, yeah, he was just a man who was very wise, he was awakened and he could teach people to wake up. Others had like, no, he was sort of a spirit, like a shapeshifting spirit. Yes. Yes. I could come to this world and pull the arcons because they couldn't recognize him because he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. th. He was a trickster God. So they had different theories about who the nature of Jesus was.

Starting point is 00:29:07 And again, that's not insane because remember, the church had many conferences and meetings and fights trying to understand the nature of Jesus. And today, all these 100,000 or 20,000 denominations still can't agree on the nature of Jesus. The Greek Orthodox and the Catholic Church are still th Jesus was was was was the the the Jesus the Jesus th Jesus the thi Jesus th Jesus thi Jesus thi Jesus thi Jesus thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. And thi thi. And thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was that's was thi thi thi thi thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the an the an 't agree on the nature of Jesus. The Greek Orthodox and the Catholic Church are still pissed off about the nature of Jesus and the Trinity. So... That's what I was about to ask. This was a major point of contention, right?

Starting point is 00:29:34 In the early church, I mean, the Gnostics weren't some of the Gnostics really persecuted for their specific beliefs about the nature of Jesus? Basically, yeah, was the nature of Jesus, the fact that the Gnostics said the world was evil, and what pissed off the Christians, and later on even the Jews, it even pissed off the pagans because the pagans thought that sacred documents were sacred documents. They said, the god of the Old Testament is the head Arkon.

Starting point is 00:30:02 He's the head demon. And they said they said they said like an alcoholic father than a good god. You know, this guy's terrible and they said, no, the father of Jesus would never be the God of the Old Testament. Why would he be a god of this sort of vengeful meat, you know, demanding sacrifice, genocidal being in the Old Testament. And that's when there was a split because the Catholics or the Orthodox Christians were like, no, no, Jesus is part of this continuum of prophets. Some of the Gnostics would say, no, Moses got fooled. And Paul agrees, if you read Galatians, Paul didn't say that God gave Moses the Torah.

Starting point is 00:30:45 He says angels gave Moses the Torah. In other words, they said the angels fooled Moses into starting these false religions, which would later be Judaism and Christianity. The Gnostics were like, we are the real Jews and the real Christians. Damn, dude. The comment section's gonna be fired today. I'd love to see that right now.

Starting point is 00:31:09 Oh, just enjoy it. Ham, war, huh. So first a couple things. Do you think the, the Archons coming down and mating with Earth women? Do you think, would you say that is the the Archons coming down and mating with earth women. Do you think, would you say that is the first instance of interracial? Would you say that? That's the first interracial out there.

Starting point is 00:31:34 Hercules, that's Hercules was the first one? Yeah, Hercules was the play Griffin of Greek gods, right? It's just like happening, right? If you look at history from all traditions, Asia, the Caribbean, and all that, spirits are always trying to fuck humans. And humans often wanna fuck spirits. I mean, you're making a deal with the devil, because when you mate with these beings,

Starting point is 00:32:02 they might give you some cool reward, like psychic powers, or it says in the book, I mean, they taught humans about science and metals and all this other stuff. So this is a tradition that appears all across the world. And dude, is there any more bad boy than a demon to bring home to meet your dad? Dad, I want you to know my boy's friend Be Sla Bob and be nice okay because I love him. He's a freaking demon! I don't care dad people change right? Imagine that. What are your intentions? What are your

Starting point is 00:32:36 intention? Oh I would eat her soul. I can destroy our daughter's soul. Just have her back by eight. And second of all, listen God have her back by nine? Just have her back by eight. And second of all, listen, God, have her back by it. She'll be back by nine. The next thing is that I found interesting is the thought of Jesus being a shafifter. How cool is that? First lizard person. She takes a pregnant test. Shifter, not lizard person.

Starting point is 00:33:04 This guy, no, was not lizard person. He was Neo, he came down, new Kung Fu, and could shapeshift. Dude, I don't know if you're a devout Christian, but that to me is the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life and I would much rather get behind that guy than anything else, like a dude walk around in sandals. So it's like, oh, I turned water and the wine. That's great if you're having a party in a dry county, right? But you know what? Dude, you're tel me Kung Fu Jesus shows up shapeshifting? You're not going to go, okay, listen what this guy has to say. Yep. Buck part in the sea. Yeah, dude. This is a th. th. th. th. th. thiiiiiuuuuuu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thirty. thirty. thirty. thirty. thirty. thi. thirty. thirty. thirty. thu, thu, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I th. Oh, I the the the the the the the the the th. th. Oh, I I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I th. Oh, I's is th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thirty. Oh, that. Oh, that. Oh, thirty. Oh, I's like, I'm thu. Oh, tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. tu. the sea. Yeah, dude. This is way more interesting. Can we just write a book about this?

Starting point is 00:33:48 There's gotta be already a book about. Can we make one that someone like me could read? And keep it real simple? Almost pop, do imagine shapeshifting Jesus, the pop-up book? How much better would that be? I think it's called the new international version of the Bible. Is that real? No, I'm joking. It's like a real, the NIV is like a sort of a, dude, I might sit down with Miguel. Everyone's like Sam, write a book.

Starting point is 00:34:10 I might sit down with Miguel, get a third guy who actually knows grammar, because I don't, and just write this story of shapes of shapes sha shiaphifting Jesus. And you know, and the more and more we talk about the stuff, the more, the Matrix loses a tiny bit of luster to me. In the fact- How do you mean? Well, the movie itself, I mean, like, we'll look back at the movie and people will never appreciate how much that movie changed movies, compared to movies before to now?

Starting point is 00:34:41 I feel like that whole year, 99 was a really transitional year. There was something, there was something a little different going on in 99. But go ahead. But like in terms of what the message was, it's almost like, oh, they were just taking this Gnostic stuff, this Buddhist stuff and they just made a movie about it. Well, and it was a blockbuster too with that kind of intricacy, you know, that kind of, it required some thinking, some weightlifting on the part of the viewers, yeah, which is a, yeah, new for that. Are there any famous Archons out there? Famous arsons, well, the god of the Old Testament would be one of the famous, but to

Starting point is 00:35:18 the Gnostics it was all the God, that's what made him so radical. They said, look, all our gods are simply Argon's in disguise, and this could include Osiris, Zeus, Allah, Indra. It didn't matter. To the Gnostics, the the real God was this sort of pure intelligence beyond time and space, not even a being, but it was just pure intelligence and imagination that we could partake in. That's why hermeticism, the paganosticism was all called a religion of the mind because it believed that if we can emulate this mind that we could have amazing powers and we could transform ourselves sometimes into supernatural beings, great magicians. Now if you like the whole Jesus is the shapeshifter,

Starting point is 00:36:07 you're probably gonna like that some of the rituals and ostensism were about group sex. So I hope I've sold you on the whole religion. I don't know how that connection happens between shapeshifting to group sex, but I am listening. I mean like we heard he walked around with a couple of apostles and Mary and we they know and I think the story of Mary being a hooker right his chick I think that was done to demonize her and to like kind of look at her low I think maybe that was his boo and then

Starting point is 00:36:44 the story's retold like you know and the time I want to get into is like the pushing of, and I believe the Catholic Church, and I like to hear your opinions on, Miguel. The Catholic Church is what pushed the Bible is literal. And them going around cracking everybody's skull and making it, no, this is literal is, was done purposefully to take away like the beauty of what that book meant and the magic of that book met. Because if you took it literal, you know, there's a famous scene and I think it's the the kill a mockingbird, right? Is that where he's like, do you think it literal, you know, there's a famous scene and I think it's the Kill a Mockingbird, right? Is that where he's like, do you think the stories of the Bible are real?

Starting point is 00:37:29 And he's like, yes, and everybody in the courtroom laughs. I don't know if it's the Kill a Mockenbird, but it's one of those very famous trial movies? Is it, Scope's monkey?? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? that? that? take of the Bible, and I'm not being disrespectful, if you take it literally, that's your belief as long as you do good people. No one takes it literal, not anymore. Dude, I have a people comment that it's literal. Oh yeah. Oh, dude, it's called the South.

Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, I just came from there. Which is fine. No, I think it's totally fine. Whatever. Doesn't this seem way more exciting? Is that what you're talking about? Was that from inherit the wind? It's possible like where it's just like they're like, do you believe the book is literal? He's like I do and then the whole. It's about evolution, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's about evolution. Yeah. That's about evolution. Yeah. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's about. that's about. that's about. that's about. that's about. that's about. that's about. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. this. this. this. this. th. the scopes monkey trial. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's definitely the cat. What is your take on the Catholic Church, Miguel? Well, obviously, as they say, the victors get to write history. And they just think about the little thing. And I think that's what's important how to approach the Bible.

Starting point is 00:38:39 There's a story about a rabbi putting his son to bed, and he reads them the flood story. And his son goes, Papa, is, did this ever happen? And the dad says, well, I don't know if it ever happened, but I know it's true. In other words, these are great mythological and symbolical lessons and can help each one of our souls. But the Catholic Church, again,

Starting point is 00:39:02 when you had Christianity coming on and you had this being Jesus that was, you know, affecting a lot of people, having visions and everything else, to be able to create order, you have to create a corporation. You have to make sure that the means for experience in God come through you and not through each individual. And you have to make a lot of changes. You mentioned Mary Magdalene, that's one of them. If you look at the Nostic texts,

Starting point is 00:39:28 Mary Magdalene is one of the main, not a main apostle, but she's a spiritual leader. She's the one person, as one text says, who gets, who understood the all, she could understand infinity in her head. And she was extremely important, and so were other women. And obviously in this new religion, women had to be put a few pegs under. And unfortunately, somebody like Mary Magdalene got marginalized as well as other figures that got marginalized in the Bible.

Starting point is 00:39:59 Like Thomas was a great Gnostic figure, and they turned them into the doubt. John the Baptist was the head of the shamens, and thoom th th th th th th th th th th th th thoom thoed, thoed, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and tho, and thi, and thi, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and tho, and tho, and tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th the doubter. John the Baptist was the head of the shaman's and turn them into the sort of savage eating locust and that's what happened. But again, if you want to create a worldwide religion, you've got to incorporate and you've got to make sure that you have the means to salvation. Yeah. You know, that's interesting because I, when people are trying, the historians, the historians, thiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thee. And, thei. And, thi. And, the. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi.trying to, historians are trying to examine the historicity of something, how likely something is to be true, they often give more credit to things that would have been unpopular at the time and that idea of Mary Magdalene being, you know, one of the leaders, you know, one of the lead apostles is, I mean, I would lend some credence to that just because it's, that would have that, you that, you th.. that, you that, you th. that, you that, you th. th. th. th. that would have th. thi. I, that would have thi. I, thi, thi, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thin, thi, thin, thin, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, at the time. So unpopular, yeah. And it gets back to men trying to control female sexuality,

Starting point is 00:40:51 female power, female empowerment, and then it gets back to what they're pushing now is feminism. Yeah, you know? It's a perversion, man. Because, you know, in feminism, what being a feminist is, is like a a total perversion man because you know in feminism that what being a feminist today is is like a woman trying to live a man's life and listen you do whatever you want to do I'm not here to tell you it's dude it's that WAP music video that's feminism today it really is it's like

Starting point is 00:41:19 and the reality is like the divine feminine is so important the yin and the yang you know in that in the Wap video I don't cook I don't clean right and it's not that being a woman that the essentialness of is cooking clean that's not what I'm saying what I am saying is there's a yin and a yang and what they've taken feminism be is yang yang yeah yeah out of balance there's no balance there's a yin and a yang and what they've taken feminism be is yang yang yeah out of balance there's no balance there's no there's no it's like whatever it is it's like there's you have to come together these two opposites have to come together to make a whole they're not even opposites really they're

Starting point is 00:41:58 complimentary right is what you're saying yeah that's why I mean opposites it, complimenter, to come together, right? And this whole thing. Now, what do you say there is some, odd, a dark side of narcissism? Yes, I would definitely say so. It's something that other modernostics or a cultist sometimes don't want to hear, but we have to be honest. And it's not a dark side. It's, I mean, it's weaponized narcissism, but anything can be weaponized and used against us. In fact, anything that can be weaponized has been used against us as a society, religion, sports, symbols. I mean, the powers that be, the Archons are just nailing us. Weaponized, sorry, weaponized by whom, Miguel?

Starting point is 00:42:45 I don't quite understand what you're saying. Okay, for example, and again, this is something scholars have said. Who's recognized narcissism? I mean. Think of a religion or an ideology where somebody comes to you and tells you, look, you're trap and you're suppressed, but you're. You're almost godlike. With this special information, you're going to be free, but we're going to point you towards these Archons that you have to destroy. And where do you get that? Nazism, communism, Scientology. I mean, Elrond Hubbard said very well, we are a Gnostic religion that believes in Noses. The whole idea of Zeno, the myth where we're trapped from another planet,

Starting point is 00:43:25 Heaven's Gate. I would even go further and say that on two sides today, you've got Antifa and Q&O and my wife is Q&N. Those are two Nostic movements, weaponized Nostic movement. So when you weaponize Nosticism, you get some, you can make some changes. Unfortunately, they haven't been that good changes throughout history. Well, I just got one more quick question. What are the, what are the, the original Nostic ideas? What are the, do you have any idea of the providence of those? Like, were they revelations handed down by someone? What are, what from the gods

Starting point is 00:44:08 and the priests and the state, and it starts shifting towards humanity. Plato's allegory of the cave, where we're trapped in a cave, and these people are casting shadows on the wall. We have to, that is sort of a pre-nostic. The myth of Prometheus creates humans. Zeus wants enslave them. Prometheus gets them fire and then he ties Prometheus, but Prometheus still says humanity

Starting point is 00:44:32 has the doom of Zeus and one of the humans. You have these shifts that are moving. With Nosticism, they took it to the extreme where they said the world is a trap and all the gods are basically demons. And it was almost the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th thus thus thus the thus thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi. thi is thi is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the theee. the. the the thee. thee. the. the. the. the. the it to the extreme where they said the world is a trap and all the gods are basically demons. And it was almost an evolution of the not of being in coming out of Egypt and sort of mixing in together Greek philosophy, ancient Egyptian mysteries, Zoroastronism where Aramon is this dark being and they just, again, it was ecstatic. They took their flights it was shamanistic and that's the conclusion that the Gnostics the nostostostostostostostostostostostostostostostost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the nosty. the nostu-a. the nostu-a. the evolution. thi. the evolution. their evolution of their evolution of their evolution of the evolution of the evolution of the evolution of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the nost. the nost. the nost. the nost. the noste. the noste. the noste. the noste. the noste. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the ecstatic they took their flights it was shamanistic and that's the conclusion that the Gnostics came but this Nostik vibe has always been in history at least and and has continued throughout history. I find it interesting I've never met somebody where the wife was to

Starting point is 00:45:19 Q&O and the husband was like oh stop with it Oh great great debates every night you know yeah oh yeah honey are the children gonna be freed from the tunnels is Hillary gonna be in handcuffs tonight oh man you don't believe in any of that stuff huh I mean I mean dude let's I mean I'm not saying this, but there has been a ton of arrest. Have you noticed this, like in the last week? And it has to do with- Maxwell was in jail, yeah. I mean, no, I mean, I'm, I think Molok is one of the Archons and children's sacrifice and abuse is more prevalent and it's what, it's the fuel that keeps the elite going, but still. So like I get a debate with a lot of people and it's so funny because even like, you know

Starting point is 00:46:09 what you said something really great. And I don't know how long ago he said, but it's basically along the lines like weaponizing it. Like you, you could tell people that you can get out of this prison. You can get away from this pain and suffering. It's all inside you. Right. And they'll reach. They some people are going to reject that. I mean, we see with this virus right now, right? I mean, all the statistics are coming out. That it's not even close to as deadly as people think. And of course, one person, two people have to show up in the comments that I lost somebody. Not say you didn't. But are we going to shut down our economy and let all of our friends commit suicide because

Starting point is 00:46:58 they get no hope? Or let's just take heart disease more like this seriously. Think about how many people heart disease kills and, I mean... But Johnny, can I get heart disease from to to to to to to the to the to to the the to the to the the to the their to their their to their their more like this seriously think about how many people heart disease kills and I mean, but Johnny can I get heart disease from being breathed on? That's their whole thing. It's like you can't get that either. I mean you fouggy I think it he does this purposely to cause chaos where he'll flip what he's saying just so now He's side as some but it goes back they did it with a mask thing and initially they said mask were? the their? their? their? their? their. their. their. their. their. they're? I? I? I they're their. they're their. their. they're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. t. t. I'm. t. t. tole. t. t. t. t. tot. t. tole. t. with a mask thing. And initially they said mask were useless. And then they came out a month later and said, mask are great. I think you're totally right about that.

Starting point is 00:47:29 But can you, how about the 80-year-old fucking bitch, Nancy Pelosi? Not wearing a mask at the hair salon. And she's the one they set me up. It's like... But then the reporter asked her, he's like, what do you mean to set up? And she's just, she got it pissed off and completely ignored the question. The owner of the... Do you know she's never debated anybody? In 30 years running for office? They've never had her debate anybody? California, man. Okay, but it's going back to what we're talking about here is that you are telling people it's not that bad. You're going to be okay. It's real simple. All

Starting point is 00:48:12 you gotta do is believe in yourself and people get scared. People don't want to and they've weaponized the fare. I mean you're literally telling people their salvation and they just can't buy into it because of the programming and all that stuff. Yeah, it's anything like that that's empowering. Like this, the virus, like the way people talk about it, it takes power away from, you know, you have to stay in your home, you can't, you can't be proactive. But if think of it, like, the heart disease things, if that got as much as much this this thrown, thi, like, like, I'm not saying like make people do things but you know just give people some tips

Starting point is 00:48:46 if it got as much airtime it would save so many more lives than then then the bullshit that's on TV you fear-mongering or or you know what you know what kills more people in this the opium crisis the opium crisis why why the fuck why don't we stop that yeah I don't understand that and I'm I don't the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. they they they don't they th. their th. tho. they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their to their their that and to be clear I'm not saying with legislation or anything definitely not but I'm just saying if if they spend our focus putting our focus on to it exactly but it goes back to what you said briefly which was mollock right it's like you know it's like so this thing going on YouTube now is there's people taking podcasts and they're doing analyzing it and that's their podcasts and they're doing analyzing it. And that's their own.

Starting point is 00:49:27 And some of them are really great. Some of them are really professional. We're saying. Some of them are of use. There's a car. Like, where's the money? The blackout glasses? That guy entertains me.

Starting point is 00:49:37 I actually watch it. He's hit me a couple times, but I still think it's funny. We should do a podcast that analyzes those podcasts. How would that? That's so funny. Oh, but one one quick clip he showed was meing on Kellyn's, you know, our conspiracy supper club and... Oh, so he's subscribed at least. Yeah, which is I guess you can you can tear me apart if you want to spend five bucks a month, but, uh, you know, one kind of sound bite to play was when I said, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you th, you know, you, you can, you know, you know, you know, you know, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, if you want to spend five bucks a month. But, you know, one kind of soundbite to play was when I said, you know, Rothschilds aren't Jews. They're Kazarian's. And of course, when you take that out of, which is what happens with every single podcast that gets in trouble, you take that moment out and you put it over here where it's not supposed to be, and everybody loses their fucking.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu skull s s s s s s s s s. that th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their........ I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And, I. And, I. And, I th. And, I th. And, I th. And, I thitrouble, you take that moment out and you put it over here

Starting point is 00:50:25 where it's not supposed to be and everybody loses their fucking skulls. The reason I bring that up is because you brought Moloch. And I tell people, and I tell people, like, oh, you know, it's like, oh, look at this. This is Masad with Jeffrey Epstein. And I go, they're not Jews, man, these people, they wear Judaism around so they can walk amongst us. They're really into Mola. I have some more bad news for you, Sam. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:50:49 Speaking of weaponized Gnosticism, one of the villains today are the Franken Jews from the Shabbatized Zevy, that's become a big one. What is that? Every anostic movement, of course, Kabal and all that. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And, they. And, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. so but but but but okay I like the Franian Jews myself I think they're getting vilified but but but at the end of the day it's like like Epstein right like everybody says he's Jewish but what do we see we see Molok we see all this occult shit and it's important to define your terms here too by what you mean about Jewish too. I'm because so many times people are using the same word but they mean different things,

Starting point is 00:51:29 you know? Yeah, I mean like our friends who are around here trying to do comedy and like those Jews versus the guys who are all running like the mega group that's running these child sex trafficking rings and and and like sacrificing children....... their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they have they have they have they have they have they have all all all all all all all all all. No they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have all. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they. they. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. I'm. t. t. t. t. tell. t. tell. So. So. So. t. So. I'm. rings and and and and like sacrificing children. They have almost nothing in common except for a share. That's what I'm trying to say. It's like the everyday people versus these people because behind closed doors it's not Judaism. It's like pagan sacrifice shit. Am I wrong on that Miguel?

Starting point is 00:52:01 No, I think you're 100% right. And this has been going on since ancient time. Since I mean, even the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days the days of the days of th. It's the days of th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the th. It is the th. It is the th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the. It's the. It's the is the is the is the is the is theeeeeeeea. It's theea. It's theea. It's theea. It's the has been going on since ancient times, since, I mean, even the days of the Spartans, it was this thing about the way we have a warrior class as we separate the children from their mothers and we put them under all this stress and trauma, and we basically take the humanity out of them. And then you had other empires who were just, well, why even do that? Why don't we just sacrifice children for their souls

Starting point is 00:52:29 because they are closer to the source. They have power. I know what is my wife calling Doe Chromene, or something like that. Adrenochrome. Thank you, which is, I'm pretty sure it's true, but that this is going on. I mean, if you read like Chris Hayes book, The Twilight of the Elites, you find out it's really not about a religion or a race. As when people get in power, they get addicted to power, I mean, if you read 1984, when O'Brien

Starting point is 00:52:58 tells the Winston, he says, look, power isn't the means, Power is the end. It's like a drug. Carl Jung, when he met the guy who created the CIA, Dulles, Alan Dulles, he worked with him in intelligence. And Carl Jung said it was one of the most soulless beings he'd ever met. And he said, the opposite of good is not evil. The opposite of evil is power. It's a drug to these people. They want control and they want to suck everything they can into them. Whether they're Jewish or Muslim sheik or a Protestant or a Catholic bishop. I think that's the game we're playing today. No, and the great example is, you know, Jeff Bessos, Bill Gates. I mean, they have more money than they will ever be able to spend in a thousand lifetimes.

Starting point is 00:53:52 But they crave more power. They crave more, just the destruction and pain and suffering of others. And it just drives me nuts, dude. So I want to get into, you know, talked about the dark side of narcissism. Where do we find narcissism in modern day pop culture, or modern day culture? Well, modern day culture again, I just watched a series on FX called Legion. It's about the X-Men and one of a professor X's son. That's an incredible Nostic triatists about insanity

Starting point is 00:54:34 because as Jung said, the Gnostics were about psych, there were history's first death psychologists. And they were obsessed with the mind, and their whole idea was that God went crazy and became us. So that's another good show. There's a show that came out called Devs about free will and fate and AI. That's another good example. I mentioned Westworld season one, extremely nostic.

Starting point is 00:55:00 Any of the writings of Philip K. Dick and many of the movies that are based on in like Blade Runner, Minority Reports and others, total recall about fake realities and which one is real we just don't know in the end. That those have heavy nostic themes. So, and then of course a lot of video games have him and I'm trying to think what else. Yeah, so those are really the big hitters. I mean, I forgot who mentioned Johnny was talking about the late 90s for some reason. There was a, I don't know if it's a millennial intensity, but there was a lot of Gnostic movies because even with the Matrix you had the Truman show, you had Dark City, you had Existence. What makes them, what makes it Nostics those movies? Those th. Those th. Those th. Those th. Those the movies. Those th. Those the movies. T. T. T. T. T. T. T, had existence. What makes them Gnostics, those? What makes them, what makes it Gnostics, those movies, those TV shows that you- That's a good question.

Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, I mean, all of these movies that I've mentioned or Westworld, it always starts with, there's a figure who's in a false reality, like Truman in the Truman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's going, some things, there's, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the the the idea, it's, it's, it's, it's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th theea. the., some things, there's like the idea and Buddhism of suffering, which is more like discomfort. You know, what Morpheus says, it's like a splint in your mind driving you mad. You know, there's something with the wrong. And there's usually what they call a Gnostic reveal,

Starting point is 00:56:19 again, Jesus would beat in the text. He's somebody that comes from outer space and sort of taps you on the shoulder. It's like, dude, something's Morpheus. And sort of awake in the Truman show would be the character Sylvia. She keeps coming on the set. And these, and this figure basically has to wake up to the false reality, the joke that he is living a false life, and then thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine the false reality, the joke that he is, that he's living a false life, and then find the means to escape this world. So those are always some of the Nostik, you might say, Clay, elevator.

Starting point is 00:56:52 And you find that in literature too. I mean, Moby Dick is a very Nostic tale. The writings of William Blake, I mean, throughout history, there have been many who have been influenced by Nostics. I think like lost, the leftovers, the things that those guys may have also been more contemporary examples of, yeah, exactly, influence by Nazicism. So, Naucissism goes back a long way, right? Very long way.

Starting point is 00:57:18 Did they, they believed in assimilation, right? But did they use that word teaaa, tha, tha, tha, tha, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, thi, the, tho, tho, th But did they use that word? Because that word tends to be associated with computers and computers are only been around for a couple decades or in the ways we understand computers. And there's a possibility that, you know, back in the day in these ancient civilizations and this ancient knowledge, they may have had computers back then. But were they, is, is the, is assimilation when they say that word, is it what we think it is, you know, today modern version of that? Well, they would call it a fabrication, a false reality, the highest plain of hell, or some who are more positive, the lowest

Starting point is 00:58:06 dimension that they have. I mean in one text there's 365 dimensions and we are at the bottom ruled by the God of the Old Testament and at the top there's this being called a praxis that kind of controls all the dimensions. So I mean as scholar Eric Davis said, yeah there is a sci-fi sensibility to the Nostic all the dimensions. So, I mean, as scholar Eric Davis said, yeah, there is a sci-fi sensibility to the Nostik. And it's also very Lovecraftian. I mean, these Archons are sort of these bestial, omnipotent beings that sort of rule the stars.

Starting point is 00:58:38 They rule our fate and they rule our mind. And they're sort of feeding upon us upon our divinity just like in the matrix the matrix feeds upon our the electricity in our in our brain. But it really does what you've described there really does sound like someone of that time trying to describe an actual simulation. It's like you put someone from that time and put them in a modern day server room without any of the lights on. They just have a flashlight, you know, and they can illuminate certain segments of what they're looking at at a time. And then they're trying to describe it from that. They were a lot smarter than we thought. I mean, even something like Augustine and Greek

Starting point is 00:59:12 philosophers, they believed in evolution. They just didn't have the data or the language to really, but they knew. They saw that the world was the world the world was was was was was the world the world the world was the world was the world was the world was the world was the world was evolving and the Gnostic saw that the world was a simulation. So yeah, the ancients are a lot smarter. They might easily have had contact with beings in the stars. I wouldn't be surprised. It's almost like they're trying to play pictionary. They're like to try to describe. I'd say, they're trying to describe a computer, but they don't know how to describe the computer. There's no frame of reference for it. It's a false reality. Okay, I'll take it.

Starting point is 00:59:46 That's the best I can get at this point. Well, that's what I think they, they didn't know what airplanes were. So that's to them, that's where dragons. When they talk about dragons, plane is. They're like dude. That's a fucking lizard Some people use that as sort of a defense of revelations as Sort of a coherent text. They say that what you have there is someone trying to describe a future that That that is you know just unknown to them. You know they just all these time because you know, right coming from that time where you have no frame a reference for any any sort of modern buildings before when Columbus shows up with Exactly, they didn't know what didn't see them those were they said probably had little canoes

Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah, and they're like what is fucking the Titanic just showed up exactly Johnny's brought this brought this up or like when the aircraft drop in like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they didn't they didn't the food the food the the their their their their. their. their. their. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they think that's God and they start praying to them because they got delivered food. Imagine if there's someone out there like worshipping spirit airlines. And you know, I've said this one before, too, but. Pay for your luggage, pay way too much for luggage. I've said this one a few times too, but it's like, that's so funny. It's like if you, if you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I th. I th. I th. I wish I th. I wish I wish I th. th. th. th. Pay, th. Pay, th. Pay, th. Pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay, pay. Pay, pay. Pay, pay. Pay, pay. Pay, pay. Pay, pay. Pay. Pay. Pay. Pay, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. a few times too, but it's like, that's so funny. It's like if you could, there's this, I don't, I wish I could credit somebody with it, but I first heard it from Ricky Dervais, there's this idea that if you could teach a lion or a tiger to speak English, you still wouldn't understand it because all of its frames of reference are just completely foreign, you know, to you, you know what I mean? So, and I think that's kind of similar to what we're talking about here, you know, someone from that time, it's just so different.

Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah, for sure. I've also heard that used to defend the Old Testament, by the way, is that it was the sa- We don't understand what it's- No, no, no, it was a to-Ina' that way. Yeah, I mean it was, I think you have a point. A lot of it is just mythology, but a lot of it is pretty sick. I mean, there are parts in the Old Testament where they do sacrifice humans. Yeah, well, but you know, I'm thinking about. Like even a hundred years ago, think about how much different those people were to us. And if you extrapolate that out over you know yeah for years I mean

Starting point is 01:02:05 just the way men and women are interact yeah I mean slavery was a commonplace at the back then you know when we watch my set it's like that was a different time yeah totally and think if you extrapolate that over thousands of years yeah yeah dude right now that thi Right now, it's a whole different time. Well, you gotta wear a mask. Right now you could tell shit it's different. It's evolving. Yeah. It's, I don't know if it's evolving. I think it's crashing and burning. Devolving, devolving, but it's moving.

Starting point is 01:02:31 So, for example, when you talk about morality, people ask, well, whythey couldn't build jails in the desert. So that was the only option they have. As we advance and we can create prisons and discover therapy for inmates and, you know, the death penalty. Oh, that's so interesting. Dude, you were jaywalking, your sentence at that. You're like, what? Yeah, you get your feet caught.

Starting point is 01:03:01 The guy was blanking and you crossed. It's still blanking. Nope, your dad, that sucks. And then a week later, we're like, hey, we made prisons. We don't have to kill these people. I love talking about this all day. I have me too. Um, so there's some Gnostic practices out there. And it's like so interesting because, you know, magic in particular, sex magic. Like, one of my favorite red hot chili pepper song was back today was

Starting point is 01:03:27 blood and shuggle, magic, she has it, sex, and like, I didn't understand what they were saying there, and it's a lot more creepy now, but then I just thought that that meant she was great in the sack and she could just, you know, she could, she rocked. Now I realize they're probably talking about some occult, some Gnostic stuff. What's your thoughts on that, Miguel? Yeah, I mean, this is obviously coming from Alistair Crowley and his Nostic Mass, which he got from reading some documents about the church fathers talking about the Gnostic practices.

Starting point is 01:04:02 Crowley himself was also a priest of this modern French Nostic Church. But the reality, especially when you talk to scholars, that there were Nostics in Egypt that were practicing sex magic or sex rituals for their shamanistic practices. But the thing about Gnosticism is that because it's an ancient Egyptian religiosity, it's very personal and the individual is very important. So the Nosticism, it's what works for you to get that experience of traveling through

Starting point is 01:04:38 the world and seeing, to the astral playing and seeing through the falseness. So the Egyptians, Gnostics would practice this orgiastic sex magic, but the Gnostics that would move to Rome would sort of assimilate with the church and take the host. Some would do meditation, some would do contemplation, some would use in Theogens to get. So, I mean, again, throughout history, you see the Sufis are very Gnostic. You might say say their their their their their their thii. Soa. Soa. So. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, their, their, thiostiosti. So, their, thiostics, thiostics, thiostics, thiostics, thiostics, thi. So, their, their, their, their, their, the Gn, the Gn, the Gn, the Gn. So, the Gn. So, the Gn. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, the n. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I would would would would would the nosts. So, I would would the the the Gn. Somea. Somea. Somea. Somea. thoostics. So, I would would would would would the Gnostic. So, I would would the nostha. So, I would throughout history, you see the Sufis are very Gnostic. You might say Islamic Gnosticism. They're about the twirling dervishes and all that. So inosticism, it's about what works for you.

Starting point is 01:05:12 And everything is on the table as long as it works for you and you get that noses. Okay. So this goes back to my theory that Alster Crowley is a Carlos Mancia and he's jacking like other people's swag and presenting it as his own, which is thy will be done, right? It sounds like to me you're like, you're explaining it one way and the way Alstair Crowley presented it, all these scumbags took in and be I can fuck anything I want and fuck you I do what I want to do. He's so controversial to me because well I mean not just to me but I don't I'd love to hear what Miguel thinks about him is as a I mean his original teachings I mean do you think there's some inherent evil there or or has it been perverted again and weaponizing? I mean, Crowley never spoke to me, but I do see an individual who most of his life, when

Starting point is 01:06:10 he wasn't screwing people over and being selfish, the other 90%. He really was trying to expand his consciousness. He was trying to create a system for others. I mean, he would spend, if you read his biograph, he would spend most of his time meditating, doing sex magic, doing yoga. Is that just jerking off? Is that jerking off? Is that just spending his time doing sex magic?

Starting point is 01:06:34 Just beating off till he was doing anything he could try because he really wanted to leave a system behind and make contact with the spirit world? So, but again, it doesn't, probably never spoke to me that much........................ I. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the to, to, the the to, is, is, is, is, is, is to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. Is. to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. to, is. to, is. to. to, is. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to., but again, it probably never spoke to me that much. He had like a room for sex magic. That's the last time I call it jacking off. I'm like, hey, what's you doing sex magic? Sam, what do you do? Mom, go away. I'm doing sex magic. I don't know. What's your doing but your kids today?

Starting point is 01:07:01 Stop it. Just stop it. So magic is very interesting dude because once again we see magic has kind of been bastardized and it's like, you know, what's his name, Chris Angel in leather, butless chaps making like mind freak. Yeah, mind freak. I'm a mind-free but to me magic like real magic is isn't like you know fireballs but and there are some people supposedly can make turn make paper turn into flames but my it's about controlling the simulation agnostics they do magic yes that would be one they definitely practice magic theory in the old times they would do the old times they do magic. Yes, that would be one. They definitely practice magic, theoergy in the old times. They would do these spells, healing spells.

Starting point is 01:07:52 They would try to control these angels or archons to get their power so they could go higher up into the astroplane. But I mean, I mean, what's the old saying? We practice religion, they practice magic. I mean, magic is they they they the c c c caaa cach the cach. It the cach. It is the cachchchchchchchchchchchch. the caq. the caq. they their caq. their caq. thaqqqaqaqaqaqaqaq. they thaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqa, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they saying? We practice religion, they practice magic. I mean, magic is in the Catholic Mass. It's like an alchemical ritual. As somebody said, magic is spirituality for the individual. Religion is magic for the masses.

Starting point is 01:08:17 So I would say magic is anything that, like you said, expand your consciousness and gets you away from the simulation. Do you think placebo effect is a form of witless magic, like you're, you're like, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like consciousness and gets you away from the simulation. Do you think placebo effect is a form of sort of witless magic like you're sort of unaware but you're doing a kind of a magic spell there? Yeah I mean I think the placebo effect is valid. I mean like the hermetics and the Gnostics said and then later with the Renaissance magicians, the mind is almost a limitless power source. What did they say? We are in the universe, but the universe is within us. And you see how powerful the mind, not just with all the experiments, with telepathy

Starting point is 01:08:58 and remote viewing that are pretty much, you can read all the studies and we know the CIA and the Russians used it against each other for years but you see like there's studies where you have people with split personalities and one personality is allergic to peanuts but then that person changes and no allergies no nothing happens so crazy right and it's so much more interesting and it's so much more interesting. It kind of scares me a little bit though, Sam, because if it can have that kind of effect,

Starting point is 01:09:30 think about what you could be doing yourself and not even realizing, you know, with like negative self-talk. No, for sure. But that's what we're talking about. That has been what these ARCONs, in my opinion, have been doing us forever. Do you believe they feed off our negative energy?

Starting point is 01:09:50 I think they use energy to keep us ignorant, but I think you hit it on the head. The Archons, whether it's in government or the spiritual, have been taughting us for centuries that we are just basically monkeys. We have no power, we need to be ruled, and we should ignore the power of our mind and the powers of our heart. I think that's what's been going on for thousands of years. All of us have so much potential,

Starting point is 01:10:14 we don't even realize it. Yes, man, yes. Yes. That's how they love telling us that we live in the middle of nowhere, in a place where it doesn't matter, you're just a spe just a spe they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th, th, th, to thi to to thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th..... th. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. thooooooooooooes. thooes. that's thoes. that's th the middle of nowhere in a place where it doesn't matter you're just a speck of you're just a speck of dust they don't they don't they don't want you to think you're anything yeah yeah that's why they say that that's why they tell you that you live in you're nothing you're nothing guys this is why like paid 70 cents on the dollar and oh my god you're gay they won't let you marry that you're a white guy you're a fucking racist piece of ship blah blah like everybody's getting it right now everybody's and it's just like walking around life with your head down you know I mean there's this

Starting point is 01:11:00 whole sky above you but you're just walking looking at your phone and you're like dude you can save yourself, man. Shapeshifting Kung Fu Jesus, do it, dude. Or worse, or the other one is they tell you, well, you're special, but you gotta project all your anger towards this group, whether it's the government or the police. And if you destroy this group, you'll be free forever, which is a lie. Of course it's a lie.

Starting point is 01:11:28 So man, like, this has been an awesome episode. I could talk to you for freaking ever. Okay. Where do we start on this journey of like the book of Enoch? The book of Enoch? Enoch? The book of Econ, is that what's called? Enoch? Enoch? Enoch? The book of Enoch? Like, do we start reading that?

Starting point is 01:11:47 Like, what do we, where do we start? Because I want to learn all about this, dude, because this to me, can save everybody. This information can save everybody. Believe in yourself and how important you are that you are in fact a god. And when some people hear that, man, oh that's Satanism. Dude, you guys don't understand, man. They did that on purpose, ma'am. They took all the best stuff of Hinduism, and they combined it with their pagan bullshit,

Starting point is 01:12:20 like black cube of Saturn shit, and they created Satanism so that fucking theater dorks can try to bang chicks they th. thiiiiiiii th th th th thi thi th thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that that that that that thi that that that that that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they created Satanism so that fucking theater dorks can try to bang chicks they meet at the Rocky Horde picture show that's even what it is that's even on its face I mean they say they called it Satanism to be inflammatory yeah they admit that that's right out front yeah flaming Tory bunch of like a bunch of you know so it's like I'm tel you man to tell it's the the the the the the to the to to to to the to to to the the to the to to the to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toy. toy. man, if you start, not ego-wise, but don't have an ego about it, just be like, you are a special man. Start learning about that. Hey, dude, I actually says you can't meditate.

Starting point is 01:12:57 If you start to get a meditating app and did five minutes a day of just, you know, quietly, whatever bedroom you live in in your mom's house you just fucking sit there and you just I mean I love meditation has been weaponized like like he's talking about you know the idea that there is any specific way to do meditation I mean I know people swear by TM but the idea that you need to pay somebody thousands of dollars to go to a room and get somebody to give you a word which we've it's been proven the th you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the their. the the their. their. the they. they. they. they. the they. the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the need to pay somebody thousands of dollars to go to a room and get somebody to give you a word, which we've, it's been proven those, you know, you know, the reason you can't tell everybody your word, is because everybody's got the same word. There's only like 10 of them on a list. Yeah, you don't need, you know, you don't even need an app man.

Starting point is 01:13:37 It takes five minutes and you can go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go of go deep. Yeah, just spend a moment. Just spend a moment. They say praying is talking to God. Meditation is listening to God. And I'm telling you, man, get away from all the chaos. All these rich people having you, like dude, the way everybody's making everybody hate the black community hate police officers and we see video video video people resisting do you think Jay Z is going to swing on cops nope do you think Lebron James is going to fight cops too much to lose they'll just go quietly but yet they're telling you raise muck and do crazy you think Seth Rogan is who's funding oh riot guys I'm gonna pay for you to get out jail it's they're the Seth Rogan? No. Is who's funding? Oh, riot guys, I'm going to pay for you to get out jail. It's elite doesn't by definition. These are the rules for us and and and and and and

Starting point is 01:14:32 our teachings. Pat and Oswald do you think he's going to go the rest of you guys. Fucking going right anywhere? He's going to live in his fucking ass. You're saying make go up there for a really good. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to th thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to the the to the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. the. why he's telling you to go cause chaos. You set Miguel up there for a really a really good with a really good question though Sam what Miguel do you think is the nice jumping off point for people who intermagency? Johnny let me ask a question I want to ask Johnny what's the yeah what is the great jumping off point for where people want to go and this is where you say great question. Oh, great question. Ah, there we go. It was your question to begin with them. I know, but I wanted to make sure that everybody knew I asked it.

Starting point is 01:15:09 Sam's two. That's two, that's two this episode. Two and one episode. Nice, nice. Should have a chart. Yeah, it's a hard one because there's so many there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there depends when you want to start. I mean, watch the Matrix trilogy, read Philip K Digs, Vallas trilogy, the Naghamadi library, there's some good translations, but I would tell people go to my website, the god above god. dot com. I have a section, an introductory articles and videos on ostacism, or just shoot me an email.'ll also talk to you and what might work

Starting point is 01:15:45 because again ostracism is very personal and what your entry point might be different just like it's such an individualistic movement or tradition I love it dude give me one book I should read right now one book yeah just give me a book to read okay Okay, I'm gonna give you Philip K. Dix Valas and what is considered the valis. Yes. How do you spell that? V a L. I. S. You can get the audio book on YouTube if you just want a good read. But also what is considered the greatest American novel is Cormick McCarthy's Blood Meridian, one of the most violent and disturbing works I've ever read.

Starting point is 01:16:29 There's no punctuation, there's no periods or commas, it's just one stream of consciousness. That is an extremely nostic novel and really one of the- Is it, am I going to be uplifted at the end or am I going to be like, God, need a period? Yeah you're going to need a period because that's the whole point is that everything is held the little spark of infinity is greater than it but to find it it's going to be a bitch. I mean people are always like well you're so negative with this Gnosticism and hell and Arcons and I said look the greatest news I ever heard in my life was one day I looked at myself in the mirror and I said.. th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. tho. th. the whole point. tho tho the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole the whole point. the whole point. the whole the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. their th. tho. thooooooooo's their their the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point. the whole point said, look, the greatest news I ever heard in my life was one day I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, Miguel, you are a drug addict. You are a lie. You've destroyed your life, you've destroyed the lives of others. But when I saw the problem, everything got better

Starting point is 01:17:20 with that knowledge and I actually was able to use my alcoholism to my advantage and start working my way up. So in a way it's almost like you have to admit how bad things are before you can make a different and most human beings I think are in a state of stupor. And denial. I was in denial about my alcoholism for years. Yeah dude I respect the best of it and things will get better. No I had to try I needed a complete transformation.. my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my the to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to work work work work wo. to work woing my to work work work work work work work to work work to work to work to work to work to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their to work. their to work. their their their their to work. their their their their their to work work. their to work work work. to work. to work. to work. to work., dude, I respect the best of it and things will get better. No, I had to try, I needed a complete transformation of my heart and my mind to beat this. Dude, I respect that man. I respect that a lot, dude. And, you know, there's been a lot demonization of AA lately and, you know, you're not supposed to talk about, but the 12-step programs, I think if, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, I, to, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need, I need,'re not supposed to talk about but the 12-step programs I think if you know what Miguel is talking about is very important and you know and listen man it just it some of the most freeing should I've

Starting point is 01:18:16 ever done is admit where I'm wrong, admit my mistakes and owning them and you can't move on from your life with resentments and denial. And this has been a dude, I can listen man, I gotta be honest with you ma'am, when I first started this podcast, my opinion of Jesus was one thing. But this Jesus, I'm all about that, dude. I mean, it's so much cooler, dude. I'm all about that. I mean, it's so much cooler, man. I want to teach this Jesus.

Starting point is 01:18:50 Kung Fu shapeshifting Jesus, fighting our car. Like, dude, everyone be like, hell yeah. Yeah, where's our church for that? Dude, that's a book I want to write. Makes out with Mary Magdalen in the go-ofs. He's kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses kisses. Heels too. Kisses are on the mouth. He's joking. He laughs with, you know, in the Bible, Jesus never laughs in the Nostic Gospels. He's laughing, he's playing jokes on the Archons

Starting point is 01:19:11 and his apostles, and he's got like Mary Magdalene and Salome with him. He's just a, he's a cool dude. Yeah, that's what away from like everything so serious. Let's get back to shapeshifting. Poonhound Jesus, man, who's getting ass and kicking ass and wrecking shop and taking names. So right, there's so much liturgy, just like esoteric shit that got packed on top of Christianity. And if you get back to, I mean, think about any of these enlightened people you hear about, like Neme Karoli Baba, for instance. They're all at their core, just sort of like laugh, they love to laugh, funny people, yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:50 That guy's known as, had a trucker's mouth, they used to talk about. He used to call everybody. Why would Jesus being different? Bali Baba? Neme Karoli Baba, yeah. He used to call everybody a sister fucker and and the translator would feel so bad they would translate a difference of people didn't know he's saying that. That's hilarious. Because I used to feel really bad about using dirty language but why? No, it's all about intent with language. No, it's all about intent with language to me man don't you think? That's everything. Because how could you, I mean the Bible, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and the, I, I, I, and the, I, I, and the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. tr. tre. tre. Transl. tra, tra, tra, tra, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their. the, the Bible was in a different language. How would they know what, you know, fuck didn't start in Aramaic, you know, and get passed down the years, you know, what fuck is to us is completely different.

Starting point is 01:20:31 I think fuck should be taken off the swear list. Yeah, it's just a hard K and people get weird. It's just a hard K and people get the word K. It's just too hard. It's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the the the the the the the the the th. It's just just the th. It's just the the th. It's just a the the th th. It's just a hard. It's just a hard K, it's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. It's just a hard. the the the th. the th. the th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the K and gets people weirded it out. Miguel's out of it. Miguel's like, why am I still here? This way, you're so right Sam, this is a great one. This was awesome. Yeah, a lot of fun. Dude, I can do this.

Starting point is 01:20:54 Miguel, tell us where they can find you real quick. Yeah, I had the guests we talk tonight, like Bart Erman and many of the ties. Oh wow, you talked to him, huh? Have been on there. I've had all priests, mystics, best-selling authors. So he had my college professor. Come on.

Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah, I've had individuals who don't like Gnosticism like Jay Dyer and they've been very kind and courteous and very the giving me their arguments. So it's got my side has everything. Kabbalah, Sufism, Philip Jadig wherever you want to start. And again, just contact me if you need help. All right, well, you know, so far I just did Alex. toobey. tooge. It was a lot of fun. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:21:42 And I love... Yeah, he's great on there. I need to check you out, but I've seen Jay on Alex's show. He's really great, because he has that Miami Vice jacket on, that white Miami Vice jacket. And like, no matter what you're talking about, it's the weirdest thing. You'll sit there and he'll be like, oh yeah, I love that you brought that up because it was brought up in this book. The book that is about the topic you're talking about. You're like, you know, the CIA used to taint jello with acid so kids would trip balls. Oh yeah, it's in this book called Acid and the CIA and Jello. You're like, where did you pull that book from? But that's all he would do, we did it today. It was pretty cool. All right, Miguel, nothing but love man when we when you

Starting point is 01:22:25 get another great topic let us know we'd love to have you back on I love this topic and you know what I love Jesus I love Jesus I love Jesus. Amen brother. Miguel you made me a Jesus freak brother. XG I love you. I love you. Johnny. I love you. I love you. I love you brother. Oh there we go I got from. Miguel have a great day. You. you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the. the. the the th. th. th. we. we. we. we. we. we. we. we. we. we. we. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tod. the. we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we. Johnny, great job today, I love you too. Johnny, I love you. I love you, brother. Oh, there we go, I got from. Miguel, have a great day. We love you guys very much. Thank you guys so much.

Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #359: Did Shapeshifting Jesus Battle The Archons For Control Of The Simulation with Miguel Connor

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