Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #363: The Union Of The Unwanted #9- 9/11 with Richard Gage, Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery

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Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm really enjoying these. And who knows who else is going to show up. But today we got Brett Vanard from the School Sucks Project, an old friend of mine who's joining us. We also have Richard Gage and Dylan Avery who I actually, I've been a fan of Dylan's forever and never actually talked to him, so this is going to be fun. But, and then we have, oh, hey, what's up? And then we have Jason Burmese with us, of course we have Charlie, Midnight Mike. People are popping in right now. Cry America is with us again, which is awesome. So we have, we're live guys, just give you the heads up. Before, you know, a dick joke or anything like that. But so thanks guys for being with me another episode.

Starting point is 00:06:52 People are really enjoying these. Every, you know, every other week, seven o'clock, Monday nights, at seven o'clock, Eastern time, we're doing these, so keep up with them. And today, and today wen wen we we we we we we wen, today, th, th, th, th, th, thin thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thin, thi. too. too. too. too. too. thi. too. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th and and today we had a you know kind of our guests of honor because you guys have a new project you want to talk about and and what we can start off talking about that maybe introduce you you know yourselves then let us give us a little rundown on the projects and then we can go from there just kind of go wherever the conversation takes us. Cool I'm Richard Gage AI a founder of architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth.

Starting point is 00:07:28 And we have 3,000 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation into the destruction of all three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9-11. And we've been very busy and I've brought here today one of our busy bees, the director of our new film Seven, which is about building seven back here. And that's Dylan Avery, who of course creator of Lose Change 9-11. Dylan is amazing and this film is going to be amazing and so he's going to talk about that. Should I should mention a couple other things first before we dive deep into Dylan. Is that okay? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, we've got time to do it. We're not that professional here, so don't. Well, okay, I'll tone it down.

Starting point is 00:08:31 A lot of people don't know who the hell I am. And it's unfortunate because, you know, we've been screaming about the science behind the destruction of these towers for 14 years. And a lot of people don't know there was a thowe thiii the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho these towers for 14 years. And a lot of people don't know there was a third tower that even came down on 9-11. So let's like start with that. It's building seven. It's a 47-story skyscraper that collapses suddenly, uniformly, symmetrically, into its own footprint in under seven seconds.

Starting point is 00:09:03 And that occurs at free fall, as fast as a bowling ball falling out of the sky. And so this happens after witnesses here, explosions. And of course, it looks like the old hotels in Las Vegas. So this is why we haven't seen it on mainstream media at all. So the evidence shows evidence of explosives and incendiaries in the building. We can get into that later. The Twin Towers shows evidence of

Starting point is 00:09:31 explosives and incendiaries and what we're doing, and as we do every September 11th, for the last 14 years is have a conference where we invite individuals like Dylan, and in this case, the the today, and in this case, we can, the today, the media, and in the, the, and, the, and, the, the the, the the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. today, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th, we can th., we can th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, we the today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, toe, toe, the today, today, toe, today, the toe, toe, the today, toe, toe, the tod is have a conference where we invite individuals like Dylan and in this case David Ray Griffin, Stephen Jones and Niels Herret, three pioneers in the 9-11 Truth Movement are all coming to our conference, which is online this year. I wonder why, you know, they get the mask over the face and this absolutely manufactured event that we've all had to live with is shut down and probably destroyed our economy. And we'll probably be requiring all of us to be vaccinated against our will too.

Starting point is 00:10:29 So we're preparing for that, but that's outside the scope of what we do at AE 9-11 Truth. I'm glad you guys are talking more about it. The, uh, the, the, the conference will also bring together the lawyers committee for 9-11 inquiry who has several legal projects on the 9-11 Truth Front. It will be talking in depth with Ted Walter and McHarrison about our request for correction. Tony Zambody will be there too against NIST. We'll be going into detail.

Starting point is 00:11:06 All this is on our website, by the way. You can look at it right now, A.E.911 Truth. Org. And then we have some great guests on Big Picture Sunday, James Corbett, John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, constitutional attorney talking about the Rutherford Institute, constitutional attorney talking about the advancing police state. James will be covering censorship. The library of Alexandria is on fire, he says. And then we have our third speaker that night, Danielle

Starting point is 00:11:42 again, an expert on false flags and leading up to and since 9-11. So just a huge, Leroy Hulsey will be there along with Dylan. Dylan's going to show some clips from the brand new movie that he's making. And we also have, I've got to get a list in front of me. Because these speakers's making. And we also have, I gotta get a list in front of me, because these speakers are incredible. We have Roland Engel who'll be giving the details about the study that's been done by the University of Alaska,

Starting point is 00:12:17 proving that this building seven could not have come down by fire, could not have absolutely proved it, completely pulls the rug out from underneath the NIST report. I'll be talking about some of the evidence for the Twin Towers. So, but our star really is Matt Campbell, who lost his brother Jeff in the North Tower. We will be continuing our effort to raise the needed funds for his legal expenses for getting our evidence into the UK, outside the United States for the first time.

Starting point is 00:12:56 We're going international to bring, to get a new inquest into his brother's death. We're proving that these towers were brought down, not by plane impacts and those fires, but by explosive controlled demolition. So that's all coming up, and I'm overwhelmed with excitement about this, our first online conference. We've got a great platform we're using. It's actually a little better than Zoom. So I got a we're still learning how to use it. So yeah, that's pretty much the summary there.

Starting point is 00:13:40 How long do you think you guys have before you run the risk of slipping into like JFK land where it's kind of everyone sort of starts to come on board but it's kind of too late? Well I think we have a limited perspective and I've had one for a long time. It's taken me 14 years to begin to shift my perspective and realize that this is not going to happen in six months like I thought it was when I woke up to Building 7 and the incendiary evidence, you know, 14 years ago in 2006, thanks to David Ray Griffin. It's a long hall. It's a long haul. It's a long haul. It's a long haul. It's a long haul. It's a long haul. It's a long though though though though though though though though though though though though though though though though though. It's though though though though though though though though though though though. It's though haul. JFK is not over either, by the way. It's a longer hall.

Starting point is 00:14:27 We're going to get there, though. And if we don't keep trying, we will never get there. But I think this film that Dylan's making is an exceptional step forward to waking up the engineering community, forcing the media to to grapple with it, and it'll go nationwide on streaming platforms that Dylan can tell us more about that. Yeah Dylan, you want to jump in? I also want to get into, eventually

Starting point is 00:15:04 also get into why this is still important. Because I think that's the thing like we, I think coronavirus, the whole COVID-19 thing thing has taken so much of our attention and energy, that these type of topics are still so important. I go back and I'll do a show on like, JFK or O.C. or because these, I mean, there's like milestones in like in our, I guess, our lives, right, as long as we've been alive, like there's these, there's certain events that change things and things are never the same after like, okay, C, after 9-11 and now after the coronavirus lockdown. So I think it's really important to constantly remind people like, okay, this has happened before. Like people have justified actions based on this event and then they never, you know, they're like, oh, just give us a little bit of extra power because, you know, it's emergency or whatever. And then they never give that back. You know, I think, I don't know whose podcast I was listening to,

Starting point is 00:15:57 probably somebody who's on this call where they said like, hey, we still got to take off our shoes when we go on a plane. Like, and that was a long time ago, you know, and it's like, you know, they never, it's not like things ever go back to the way they were. So that's why it's important that even though there's current events going on all the time, it's important to revisit history to understand like, oh, this is the same like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, sorry. No, that's fine. That's cool. He's wondering where you should do with that as long as you want. No, but no, I mean, I think that the important thing to keep in mind is that we are still very much living in the post 9-11 world. And you have high schoolers and now college students that are learning about 9-11 as an event, not only that obviously happened in the past.. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th-oe thi-oom-o tho to do to-o to do-do-o should should to-o should should should should should should should should should should should to-o should should should should should should should should should should should should should should to-in to-in to-in is to-in is to-in is to-in is to-in is to do to do to do to do to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoooooooooooooooo'-c. to-c. to-cunc. to-c. to-cane to-s to-c. that are learning about 9-11 as an event not only that obviously happened in the past but an event that happened before they were born. So for all intents and purposes a lot of these you know

Starting point is 00:16:52 high schoolers, college kids, kindergartners, anyone who's in school right now and learning about 9-11 as a historical event I think that if they don't they need to recognize that they were born into the post 9-11 world and that the dividing line in history that people like myself and others on the zoom call can remember, that kind of dividing line that has been referred to many times as the pre-911 in the post-911 world, I think it's important to not lose touch of the pre-911 world and to lose touch with all of the things that we lost as a result of 9-11. And so if anyone is to ask you, why does 9-11 still matter? 20 years after the fact, then the answer to that is simply, well, we are still dealing with 9-11, and we are still living with 9-11 on daily basis, whether you recognize that or whether it's being explicitly called that. So I think that's why 9-11 and discussing Building 7 specifically is important because it is a linchpin to a lot of the things that have been going on since 9-11. You know, there's many things that have transpired that I don't think

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Starting point is 00:18:26 foreign and domestic policy was based on that post-911 world where they brought in Deutschland aka homeland security, right? That's when our overtake of Eurasia and different parts of the Middle East became normalized and not even discussed at this point. You know I was talking to somebody today, and you got to remember to remember. and to to to to to to to the to the to the to the the the the to the their their their their their their their their their their their their to do their their their their thoom, their their thoom-forne domestic th domestic policy th domestic policy th domestic policy th and domestic policy thoom domestic policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy policy to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to to to to to to to their tooo.oo. And domestic policy tooo. And thoooo. And their their thoooo.o. And their their tooe. And too. And too. And to different parts of the Middle East became normalized and not even discussed at this point. You know I was talking to somebody today and you got to remember in 2008 during 2007's debates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden all ran on getting us out of Iraq and shutting down Guantanamo Bay, Abu Grab, any black site you can think of.

Starting point is 00:19:06 There's no talk that those even exist anymore. And if they are talked about, they're talked about in a positive manner. We are still in Afghanistan, Iraq. Look what we did in Libya. Syria is another example and one of the most egregious examples as we know about Operation Timber Sycamore, the CI operation that brings us in and we have all the evidence in the world from WikiLeaks and the OPCW that that attack in Duma never occurred. So you can ride this all the way up and through the coronavirus on how important 9-11 still is.

Starting point is 00:19:43 That's how I feel about a disco. I got a quick question or statement from the chat that I'd like to read you guys and perhaps someone could address it. And this is what they're saying. The government is run by the same people that these guys go to for legal remedy. Somebody in our government took down those buildings. Therefore, there will never be a remedy. What do you say to that? Well, whether or not that's the case, I think it's more like that Patriot Act was sort of written and sitting on the shelf before it happened anyway. So I think I just worry that no matter what we do with 9-11, I don't think we're going to undo

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Starting point is 00:21:15 between the COVID-19 truthers and the 9-11 truthers, and all the other truth-telling people and the issues that they're talking about. I think it's, I think it's opening up. So I mean, there's plenty of reason to be skeptical. It's been 14 years for me, 19 years for many of you guys. This is a long war, you know, it's a long one. I'm not sure, I'm sorry, real quick Sam.

Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm not sure if it's really about a legal remedy for a lot of people. There are some people that have lawsuits, but that need, you need to get permission to sue certain people. I think we just want insurmountable evidence to change people's opinion at this point so when they make decisions at the in the voting booth that they make a much more informed decision about who they might be putting in power. I think that's a long-haul man. Like let's be honest right now in 2020 you want insurmountable evidence. I mean they're running a guy on the Democratic Party that can't speak. And I'm not talking about, I watched an interview with him today where he couldn't speak.

Starting point is 00:22:29 I watched an interview with him with Anderson Cooper where he couldn't speak. I mean, the bar has been raised to the point, it doesn't matter how much evidence that you present to people. I think it's going to come down to how far will you push them. You know, for those that don't know, my town is now the new outbreak in America for COVID-19. We have now, if you didn't see it, Dylan, we now have 304 cases that are confirmed, all of which was by design, because there's zero hospitalizations here,

Starting point is 00:22:59 but they want lockdown too. This is about control. I can't believe that out that out that out that out that out that out that out. that out. too. This is about control. You know, you talked about... I can't... What's that? Go ahead. I can't believe that out of all the SUNY schools, of course, Oneana is the one that gets shut down. But they didn't test anybody. They didn't test anybody.

Starting point is 00:23:15 So they didn't test, that they're coming from New York City and Long Island. They know these tests don't work anyway. Then within a 48 hour period, they test 3,000 people and the results yesterday were 105 and now there's 304. And now I've got a COVID-fucking SWAT team. They're calling it a fucking SWAT team coming to my town with 70 contact tracers. Well, stay tuned, because I'm telling you gotta get out of there, dude. That's the truth of the matter. And here's what's going on real quick.

Starting point is 00:23:52 There's evidence right now that we've been lied to. Everybody on the show has been saying it's been a lie. I'm just kind of getting to the point where I can't save people who don't want to be saved to be saved to be saved to be saved to be saved. You know, if you want to take this vaccine that is for a virus that kills 0.0025% of the population, there's nothing I can do for you. The only thing I can fight back and try to wake people up to is that it shouldn't be mandatory. It shouldn't, you want to take it and enjoy it. I I think we should make it so anybody who thinks we should have to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear to wear, to wear, to wear, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiiiiiiii.a, thiiiia.a.a.a. thiiiiia. thi. thi. their, their, take it, enjoy it. I think we should make it so anybody who thinks we should have to wear masks now, when it all comes out that's even more bullshit, they should have to wear masks to the end of days till they take their last breath.

Starting point is 00:24:33 For the rest of their life, they're just wearing a scarlet letter, okay? And get back to Richard, Richard, Richard, you were th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, th, th, thi, thi, thi, to to thi, that's, to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. to to thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th love to have you back. I get really upset with a part of the conspiracy community where I get I keep getting told that Barack Obama is the worst president in the history of time and I just think Woodrow Wilson and George Bush senior are like hold my beer, okay? What happened on 9-11 to me is worse than Obama-Gate. And Obama-Gate's very bad. But we allowed this group of people to basically commit genocide and just completely brainwash everybody. 9-11 is the worst thing that we have, our government has done to our people.

Starting point is 00:25:24 Everything from that has been absolutely 1984 draconian bullshit, okay? Sorry to swear on the show, but it's like it is, man. And we really need to start like, I agree with Richard. I think people are waking up. I really do, man. I think it's almost impossible now to a lot for somebody to sit, bunkered in their corner and believe the BS that CNN is doing. I don't even know how CNN reaches anybody because no listen to CNN. And it's really got to be down to these blue checkmark idiots on Twitter who just take these things and just tweet it out to all their followers.

Starting point is 00:26:03 And that's how it's got to be but I agree I think people are waking up and I think shows like this and everybody on here this is how we make the change and I'm telling you man compared to like four years ago people way way way more people are waking and that's what and I'll end here but that's what the Save Our Children's March was about. Did we save any one kid? I don't know, a bunch of kids got, you know, a bunch of arrests happen, but what you do is you raise awareness, okay? And then people find out they're not the only ones who think this.

Starting point is 00:26:36 And they can start v. Are we gonna do it overnight? No, are we gonna stop some SUNY school from getting a bunch of TSA agents everywhere all the time? If people want to live like that, let them live like that. But we have to have our, we gotta set our own boundaries and push back with information. And that architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth is a 501c3 nonprofit and your donations to their organization are tax deductible.

Starting point is 00:27:11 Now think of the sweet irony in that, that you're getting a tax break from your government to finance Richard's operation into investigating the government. It's the greatest thing you can do. If you have more money than time, give money to the government. It's the greatest thing you can do. If you have more money than time, give money to their organization. If you have more time than money, then share this work because it's super important. Richard's been doing this for a long, long time.

Starting point is 00:27:34 He's very important to this movement. And this doesn't happen for, you know, a lot of people donate their time, but there are still court costs and, you know, things like that that have to be paid for. So if you're in a position to give, this is a pretty good organization that could use your money. And this is the fundraising campaign that helps Jeff Campbell achieve justice. His brother Matt is still alive. And so these these barristers is what they call them in in the UK. They are, this guy, Nick Stantage at Dowdy Street Chambers, they call it. He is one of the top

Starting point is 00:28:16 people that does things like this. Challenges the government takes up causes like this, causes like this. But it's 500 bucks an hour and it really adds up. So we feel this opportunity's tailor made to finally get our evidence into court. We've got other efforts like the grand jury investigation in the US going on in the FBI lawsuit and some others, but this one, the threshold is really low. All we have to prove is that this evidence that we're presenting might cause, might cause, might, might, might, might, makes a reasonable case to get a new inquest.

Starting point is 00:29:09 So, in other words, we don't really have to prove anything. We just have to say it's good enough, you know, to bring about a new inquest, which will then work its way throughout the court system in the UK. And then through the media there, it'll attract a lot of attention of prompting other family members who have lost their loved ones in the UK, because there's a lot of English people in Scottish people in the World Trade Center Towers that were lost there. So anyway, that's what we're raising funds for. And you can do it at AE 911 Truth.org.

Starting point is 00:29:51 Monica, Brett, you guys want to jump in? I'll jump in just to say, back up what's already been said by Richard and I think Sam said a version of it as well. This really is a golden age of opportunity for this with what's happening around COVID-19. Because for a lot of people as far as like, you know, starting to welcome alternative ways of looking at things, the journey begins right now for those people.

Starting point is 00:30:19 So I'll say it's a little surreal to be on this call with like Dylan and Jason. Luce change was a starting point for me as far as looking into 9-11, what are we talking, 15 years ago? And that led me to Richard Grove's work. And that friendship and working relationship took me all the way to Red Pill, where I saw Richard Speak last year, I think it was. And obviously the whole architects the thanks thxxxxxxxxxxxxx architect the warcharcharcharcharch all the way to Red Pill where I saw Richard Speak last year, I think it was, and obviously the whole architects and engineers movement has been an asset to

Starting point is 00:30:50 try and to uncover the truth of what's happening there. But you know, if I take myself back to, I don't know, whatever, I was 25-year-old me watching loose change for the first time, how many investigations did that begin? Was that a catalyst for, even four years after 9-11, where we had kind of reached, dare I say, a new normal, or a kind of equilibrium, right? We're at war in Iraq, that's how it's gonna be. We're in war in Afghanistan, that's how it's gonna go on forever. We take our shoes and our belt off at the airport.

Starting point is 00:31:19 Like, that was we had just adjusted at that point, but I was so motivated by what I saw in that film. Now it's that situation on steroids. Never, never has the state been so intrusive. They're doing our advertising for us at this point, as far as trying to uncover the truth, because it's right, like my show is called School Sucks. The school system does almost all of my marketing for me, right, just by existing, just by forcing people into that situation.

Starting point is 00:31:48 And now what we're seeing with the COVID response, and the social unrest fallout from that, like this is in people's neighborhoods. It's in their face in a way this has never been before. And if they start investigating that, there's a really good opportunity, because yeah, I mean, the question at the beginning is like who still still, thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, there's a really good opportunity, because yeah, I mean, the question at the beginning is like, who still cares about 9-11, right? It's a fair question. I mean, even for those of us who've sunk a lot of time and energy, or we've known people who've dedicated, you know, a good portion of their lives work to 9-11 truth. It is 20 years later, right? But, like, this situation that we're in has the potential potential potential potential potential potential potential potential potential potential to re, to re. thiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, we're in has the potential to revive everything that has, that exists in an archive on the internet. You can still find, I mean, it's getting harder and harder, but you can still find all of these things. You can still watch that film.

Starting point is 00:32:39 So people, like I said, golden age of opportunity around what I do because school sucks worse than ever. So we have a door that's wide open. And everybody else does here too with the work that they do. So yeah, I mean, it's a frustrating question because I don't like the way that, you know, the whole truth movement just seemed to as far as like whatever glimpse the public ever had of it just kind of disappeared, you know, or faded into the background. But I think

Starting point is 00:33:11 there's a real opportunity to revive it at this point. So I appreciate the fact that architects and engineers are still doing this and that Dylan is still active with this new project and it's great to be here. What can we expect a full release on 7, Dylan? Come on, spill the beans, let's go. Well, we're about to hand it off to 1091 media, and I know they need time to prep it for digital markets and stuff like that. But we got, Richard, should I say who we got as narrator?

Starting point is 00:33:39 Or should I, sure? Sure, feel He said, sure. Don't do it. Yeah. Don't do it. Richard says don't do it. So I don't know. Sure. I'm just kidding.

Starting point is 00:33:53 He said, sure. Come on. Let's see it. We have Jason's really pushed with it. We have the legend. Ed Asner. Wow. Awesome, very nice.

Starting point is 00:34:05 Nice. Yeah. So I'm just kind of like incorporating his voice over. There was a final round of notes from A.E. and I mean, 1091's got the trailer. They've got the artwork. I know that they're probably already moving things forward on their end. So once we get a final release date from them, I imagine we'll be announcing that like during the anniversary conference if I had to guess.

Starting point is 00:34:25 Awesome. I'm looking forward to it because obviously you've had the PBS run of the smaller version of it. What was it about a seven minute run of that? Five minutes. Five minutes. Five minutes. I really enjoyed that. And Richard, I still need to get you on the show. I've been in contact. You let me know when you want to come on this week. And we'll talk about it more too because, listen, building seven, you talked about evidence. How much more evidence do you need? We're talking 47-story skyscraper falling into its own video, imprint on video where you can see clear squib lines. You have two different eyewitnesses on camera

Starting point is 00:35:03 that day refuting the official version, both Michael Hess and Barry Jennings. And then you have the interview that Dylan and I conducted with Barry Jennings himself that once again crushes the official version. I mean, you talk about evidence, guys. I roll with it like this. No one even talked about those dark overlord documents that now dropped over two and a half years ago that showed that that th, that that that th, th, that that th, th, th, that th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, thi, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi, the the th one even talked about those dark overlord documents now dropped over two and a half years ago that showed that at least four of these hijackers, two by name, Khalid al-Mahdar and Swafo Hamzzi, were on flight 11 running a dry drill of hijacking the plane were reported by James Woods, the pilot, okay, and the stewardess, and that was confirmed

Starting point is 00:35:46 by several FBI agents during the testimony which Woods named and Seymour Hirsch. There wasn't a mainstream story that touched that. Nobody. Just my lonesome. So, the evidence thing, there was a lot of stuff in the JFK drops that Trump gave us twice. You know, it didn't reveal all. He still held stuff back. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I that, and I that, that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is JFK drops that Trump gave us twice, you know, it didn't reveal all, he still held stuff back. And I think that is relevant because what we are talking about is this network that goes beyond the government that were taught about in school and told exists. And that network very much does exist and does manipulate world events. And it's, it's not just one agency, you know, it's not just one government. You look at 9-11 and there are so many aspects. That is a global intel operation.

Starting point is 00:36:34 So I think it's as important as ever. I can't wait for the film. And I'm excited about it guys. Monica, you want to jump in and then we'll go back to Dylan. Yeah, I just wanted to kind of pull on what Brett was saying in that I didn't understand the truth of 9-11 until, I guess it was 2013 when the Boston Marathon bombing happened because I just didn't think they would do it. I just couldn't get my mind around the fact that they would do it.

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Starting point is 00:38:09 to use a term that's that sadly isn't what it used to be, but I do feel like it's a good opportunity and the adversary of course is perfect. It almost seems like a fractal of 9-11. It's the left-wing version of it. It's like taking it from the, from the like national stage to the global stage. Well, I would agree with you because when you're looking at this thing, first of all, the whole thing is though, guys, we're looking at COVID like it's one thing and I don't know that it is, right? If we look at what initially happened in China and China's response, the CCP saying they got hit with a bio weapon,

Starting point is 00:38:49 it's a lot different than what happened in the United States. And then what happened in Iran and rapidly there was even more different than what happened in the United States and even parts of Europe. The thing with the COVID thing that bothers me the most at this point is we have plenty of evidence that Sweden that did not lock down, okay, the headline on this one guys is no lockdown, no mass, no hysteria, no problem. They have a death rate of I believe it is 57 out of a hundred thousand. Well, Belgium locked down, pretty hardcore, 87 per 100,000. Spain locked down pretty hardcore, 62 per 100,000.

Starting point is 00:39:29 Britain locked down pretty hard core, 62 per 100,000. Italy, 58, all of which had huge restrictions. Sweden had none. Now there are people saying they actually got hurt immunity. We can't talk about that. That can't be in reality, even if the science points to it. That's disturbing. And then on top of that, you look what's going on throughout the country in New York.

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Starting point is 00:40:40 the mortality rate, which by whose standards the WHO is 0.6%. We're living in a fucking cartoon guys and unless we figure out how to get in the streets and push back, and I'm telling you, it's weird, I'm about to have three testing stations here and 70 contact tracers. Guys, there's not 70 businesses in my fucking town. They're gonna be in everyone testing every single person getting into their lives. And I'm gonna film it. I mean, I might get arrested this week because no one's testing me. I'd rather just go to jail and then get released because we got fucking catching release here in New York now. I mean, what's the worst this could happen?

Starting point is 00:41:18 They're gonna charge me and let me out. I mean, bizarro world. We live in bizarro world. I wish I had more solutions and less ranting, but I'm just putting it down. All those facts are really available. And like I just said, we're shutting down a town now and possibly the rest of New York State in the next couple weeks because 304 kids popped hot and not one is hospitalized. Forget about going to die. This is Looney Tunes. Do you think it was like this during 9-11? Like was anyone here switched on during 9-11? Like I know Dave McGowan was like on September 12th writing blogs about how it was bullshit and this was gonna happen and that was gonna happen and he pretty well

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Starting point is 00:42:31 their scanners they sell at the airports and then the the more Democratic have like pharmaceuticals but everyone's making money off it. Mike you know what I don't get even if you're a conservative you're a whatever as, I don't know how, you know, this didn't, 9-11 did affect the economy. We were in an amazing economy pre-911. I remember I was paying 98 cents for gas. Are you sure because the Pentagon lost trillions of dollars the day before. I didn't lose it. They spent it on stuff they can't tell you about. Exactly, yeah. But it felt good.

Starting point is 00:43:05 And we were already in a weird economic situation here. And now you have the middle class and the upper middle class being completely eviscerated. Doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat. No, it doesn't. Where are the small business owners that are standing up? And then again, in this bizarre world, you know, zoom race between Trump and Biden. You have a side that's running on mandatory masks. Well, he wouldn't take office till January. So have we just given up from August till January?

Starting point is 00:43:32 That's if he gets in in a mail-in voting system, and they're pushing mandatory vaccines. I mean, whether you're, again, a Democrat or Republican, if you're paying attention, how many people want to wear masks for the next three months? But, but that, that, that, that, that, thi thuuuuuuu, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they their their tho, thi, thi, their their their their tho, their, th. And, their, th, th. And, their, their, their, their, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thr. And, thr. And, throwneean, thrown. throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, the next three months? But that, but dude, that is definitely a Democrat thing. You can't sit there and be like it's a Democrat Republican. What I meant was like, who is on board with the official story right away? And... Yeah, listen, Trump is a crime boss, okay?

Starting point is 00:43:59 But for 11th, everybody was, if you're a're, if you're a conservative, you were justifying going to Iraq. Yes. You know, and right now, if you're a conservative, or if you're on the other side, if you're a liberal, then you're justifying wearing a mask because it's your side who's pushing it. And I don't, I just want to say real quick, before 9-11, George Bush's ratings were like bottom barrel. You remember? Because he just hijacked the Florida election. You remember we had the Florida election.

Starting point is 00:44:29 They came in and Al Gore was complicit in it. You remember the black cause? Trying to bring a vote in, tried to investigate it. And Al Gore had the vote to flip it. And of course, he didn't because we all know he was a part of that whole Bush clan that goes from Reagan all the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way to to to the way to to to the way to to to to the way to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to vote to flip it, and of course he didn't, because we all know he was a part of that whole Bush clan that goes from Reagan all the way to Obama, and they just did that. And it's just like, it's just ridiculous. And I don't, I mean, like Trump,

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Starting point is 00:45:48 There's another smoking gun, red flag thing, more documentation from the dark over- alarmist. What's that? Don't forget Joe Biden's on-camera comments to Mike and Eric Jackman regarding Abel Danger. Yeah, I mean, again, he's in there several times knowing that that was an operation, but Dylan, I'll ask you now, do you think that Joe Biden even remembers that as a person? Seriously, do you think he remembers that, that era of his life? I mean, it's not even a joke. Like, do you think he even remembers that? He struggles to read off a screen on the side. And again, they're telling you this guy is the frontrunner. It's the weirdest time. And you know,

Starting point is 00:46:30 Dylan, since you're on here and you're not usually here, I also wanted to ask you, for those that don't know, Dylan also did a movie called Black and Blue on police. What's your take? What's your take on what's going on with this defund the police and just like up evil around the country? I mean, you did a whole, you spent a lot of time on that project. Did you foresee something like this or what's your take, brother? Well, honestly, by the time black and blue came out, I felt like, the problem was kind of already over, I don't want to say, I don't want to say miss the boat because that makes it sound like an opportunist thing. But I feel like by the time black and blue came out, like the problem was kind of already over.

Starting point is 00:47:08 Not that like police brutality and systemic racism was suddenly gone, but I just felt like, I don't know, it felt like the ground swell was kind ofthe force that it did. Yeah, I don't know. I thought that after the groundswell of Ferguson and Baltimore and you know the officers that killed Freddie Gray, you know, they were charged, they were, you know, not, well, no, they were indicted, they weren't charged, sorry. But, um, I don't know. I definitely didn't expect it to come back with this kind of a rage and an urgency that it has. I mean, there's protests that are still going on today. I mean, you don't really hear about him anymore because, you know, there's reasons to not talk about them now. But, um, they're not divisive enough. Well, they're not divisive and I think that, you know, it benefited the protests when destruction was happening. And so now the pro, like most of the instigators

Starting point is 00:48:06 and troublemakers have kind of weeded themselves out or they have been weeded out by outside forces. There's not really much to talk about in the news other than, hey, people are still protesting police brutality and institutional racism. You know, there's not really a lot of talking points there to glean from that. Well, can I ask a question about that, I guess to everybody that relates to this specific thing, but I think also kind of scales to everything we're talking about and back to Dylan's movie. You know, in 2014, when a lot of the social justice narrative,

Starting point is 00:48:38 like most people became aware of it, we had the Ferguson incident and then we had the New York incident, Eric Garner, right? Now, people heard about both, but all of the attention went to Ferguson and there's a great article you can find, forget the name of the blog, but the the title of the article is the taxoplasma of rage. And it talks about how, because there's all of this vagary around Ferguson, right? There's all of these opportunities for people to fight about it. So the media amplifies that story while giving the minimal amount of attention to Eric Gardner. Because Bill O'Reilly and Charles Crowdhamer go on television and they go, yeah, the NYPD was out of control, they shouldn't have done that, that was wrong. There's nothing to get people to return to MSNBC or Fox News or CNN every 15 minutes to get updates on what's happening with this. So it amplifies

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Starting point is 00:50:26 And the question that I just want to put to the group is, do those things even matter anymore? Are we in a post-proof world, right? Because we exist in this online world, which we've watched over the last few years. All of these independent media creators have just seated more control to Google and to YouTube, and to their their their their their......... And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And we weto Google and to YouTube and to Twitter and to Facebook. And we're kind of playing on their field now.

Starting point is 00:50:50 And they're catering to the legacy media more than they ever have, and I'm sure they're going to be doing that more in the near future. And they've also been given justification around like false COVID narrative, so we have to crack down and we have to censor these people more than ever. But trying to play that game on their field, it's like we're talking about empiricism, right? Like what we can observe and what we know and what we can prove. And it's kind of like playing their game because all you have to do is their game because all you have to the witness who can tell you their, their, their, their, their, to their, to to their, to their, to to their, their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to say, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try and, try.. try. try. try. try who can tell you what happened and they say oh all we have to do is character assassinate that person. Oh you you know you have proof for insurmountable evidence all we need is two experts to line up on television to to you know reinforce to the public that our official story about this thing is right you know so it's kind of like empiricism is almost a weapon they can use against us as we try to use it to win people over. I think about like, a little bit of a stretch of an example, but like poor Ben Shapiro goes on his show every day and he talks about how the left, they're all hypocrites, they're hypocrites. It's all hypocrisy.

Starting point is 00:51:56 And he doesn't understand that hypocrisy is a weapon. It's a weapon that you use against people who don't want to be hypocrites. And I think it's kind of the same situation here where we're trying to be impuricists, we're trying to offer evidence. And they just say, well, we already control the narrative, so all we have to do is off in your counter evidence, and we win. It was like when you guys, where were you guys, some guy, I forget who the guy was, but in the end it's just a wash because all of these events are so massively complicated too that the public at the end

Starting point is 00:52:28 they just have to decide who to believe. They're never going to understand JFK 9-11, COVID, the science of all of these things is just too complex. So I guess the question and thank you for your patience, is is it time to consider another strategy just besides the empirical approach? Because people don't really seem to care about it anymore. Yeah, that popular mechanics, right? I think that's what you're... Yes, that was it. That was it. That was good mechanics. Classic. First of all, Dylan and Jason, I mean, honestly, you guys, I don't think it's almost like somebody telling a celebrity or a musician who wrote this song that changed our lives, like, hey, you wrote this song that like changed our lives and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.

Starting point is 00:53:08 Like you guys, what, that loose change really, like, it red-pilled a huge generation of people. I mean, including myself, I mean, Brett talked about his experience. I mean, my experience, it's awesome to have you guys together again. And without without that I that I that I that I that I that I th out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out tho tho tho tho. guys together again. And without a doubt, I think what Brett's talking about, there's a little bit of naiveness of the fact that people can just look at evidence and then be like, okay, that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:53:32 I've been lied to, and then they're on your team. I think a lot of people, like, they just look for evidence, like, they just look for evidence, their, and I, and I, and their, and I, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, their, and, and, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thr....... throooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, and, the, thi.... the, the the most part, we think like, oh, we give them evidence, we give them evidence. Like, this is gonna change your mind. But there's some people, like Democrats, liberals are gonna wear a mask regardless, just because they want to be anti-Trump, regardless if there's all the science that says otherwise, you know, so I perception of the world right yeah and you never know which podcast which piece of evidence becomes that

Starting point is 00:54:13 that piece of evidence that takes him over to the edge where they're like okay now there's just too much evidence that I can't keep to not you know being in denial that there's something more to this so I you know I I I see I I I th th th th th th th I see th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the there's something more to this. So I, you know, I see both ends where it's like, in a way, like there's gonna be people that you just aren't gonna get through to them because honestly I don't think it's about evidence. I think they picked a team not because they chose that team based on evidence, but they have that perspective because they're just backing their tribal. But I also think that there's there's going to be people that seem like you can't get through to them, but maybe they run into this show and then they run into another documentary, then another documentary, then another show and

Starting point is 00:54:51 little by little you're chipping away and then eventually maybe they end up actually changing their minds. So you know Monica brought it up where like she didn't want to believe it at first. I that that that that that that that I I I I I I I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thee is theee. theee. theee. theeeee. thee. the. thee. the. the. the. the. to believe it at first. I think that's a, that was a huge part of it. I think the same way, people forget like vaccines now has become that issue where you talk about it and people would get so emotional and so defensive, like 9-11 was that thing. You couldn't talk about 9-11 in a room full of people without somebody getting defensive and angry. And I think a little bit of it was a little bit th of th of th of th of th of th of th of th of thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that thi thi thi thi that you're like you're like you're like you that you that you that you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi, like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I thi, like, like, like thi thi thin, like thi thi thi's thi's the thi's thi's the the thi's thi's thi. thi. theeeeeeeean was the hardest thing to believe that it could have been prevented and it wasn't. Like it was, it was so beyond their imagination that anybody could let such horror and such damage to lives in this country just happened. And I think that was a big part of the, why so many people were denying or in denial that

Starting point is 00:55:44 it could have happened that way. I don't think people even have to come across across the the the the to the to to the to to to to the to the to the to to to the the to to to the the the the to to the the the the the the the the the the thi.... And it the. And it was the. And it was the. And it the. And it the. And it was. And it was the. And it was the. And it was the. And it was the. And the. And the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. to be the. to be to be to be the. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. thean. thean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tea. you know we're denying or in denial that it could have happened that way. I don't think people even have to come across these types of shows. The media is doing it themselves. They're they're gaslighting so bad right now and their narrative of COVID and all the political stuff going on in the states is falling apart at the seams. I mean, I think it's it's turning the corner. They can't, it's not sustainable. The lies, I know that there's a, you can look at every situation from both sides and come up with the truth or what you think is facts, but that the lies that they're doing are just not sustainable, I don't think. I want to say, I think that one of the ways you make it more digestible for people is, you know, what Dylan's really good at is, you know, creating a narrative and not just showing evidence but being able

Starting point is 00:56:30 to take people along and not only get them to understand what's going on, but keep them entertained. The problem is that film used to be a very good way to do that, and in the era of loose change, it was almost encouraged to go viral, where you had two competing forces at the tiiii. tip. tip. tip. tod tod tod thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, their, their, their, their, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. their, you, their, you, you're, you're, you're, they. their, their, their, their, their, their, the era of loose change, it was almost encouraged to go viral, where you had two competing forces at the time, Google video versus YouTube. And YouTube only had clips where Google video, you could watch the whole thing. People had put it into other languages. It was much more easily accessible. So they wanted to keep it on the platform. Now, during COVID, arguably the two most viral videos are Planned themic 1 and 2,

Starting point is 00:57:05 you could say Shadowgate also kind of got in there, but they're censored within a week. So you might have that water cooler chatter on those three films that present their case or whatever and their evidence and it's very good and it's well put together, but it doesn't get to marinate through the entire globe to the thoooo........ th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. the thi. the thi. their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeea. thea. thea. toea. toda. today, the. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. to't get to marinate through the entire globe to the point that Luce Change did, where they were playing the second edition on the History Channel on the fifth anniversary in Australia and other nations, you know what I mean? So Dylan, how do you feel about that? Do you think that, you know, if something,

Starting point is 00:57:36 I mean, we're in COVID-1984 now, but something like a large-scale terrorist attack that wasn't what it was, could be exposed in a film like loose change today, or do you think it would have its week-long run and then kind of be dismissed? I mean, it's a good question because now you have seven coming out and will that be its fate? Will they try to censor this thing if it gains too much juice? Well, I think that was one of the fears, and that's partially why why a blessing that 1091 reached out to us because I believe Richard and Architects and Engineers original plan was to just basically put it on YouTube, which is great for accessibility to a certain degree. But I mean, Bermas, as you know, like I had a private upload of loose change, second edition,

Starting point is 00:58:20 HD on my YouTube account, like private, like completely private to myself, no views, no interactions, and I got an email telling me that it had been removed from my channel, which is weird because the actual loose change second edition HD on Corey's YouTube is still up. So my private upload of the movie, randomly got nuked by YouTube, and that was kind of one of those things going into seven where I was like you guys might want to maybe consider an alternative venue

Starting point is 00:58:46 just in case you know YouTube nukes it and again you have bit shoot you have avenues like that but I think the benefit of 1091 media is that it's hopefully going to go through broadcast networks you know standard. You know standard digital streaming obviously but they have a the film out there and they also are international too, so they have that going for it. To loop back to the origin of your question, I don't, I mean, the playing field now is just so different than it was 15 years ago. I mean, loose change really was, I mean, I'm not like trying to pat myself on the back here, but I mean, for my, you know, probably biased understanding, to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their,to pat myself on the back here, but I mean, for my, you know, probably biased understanding of it, it was definitely kind of a one-of-a-kind thing at the time where, you know, again, like, when someone came to me and said, oh, you know, when we were wrapping

Starting point is 00:59:32 up second edition, and you know, the guy that on there and I literally told him I don't think anyone's ready to watch a film on the internet and now that's literally everything that's like that's what everybody does now is watch movies on the internet so I was very wrong about that but I don't know I just I think that the climate both technologically and, you know, societally, if that's even a word, I just, the world is just so different now than it was 15 years ago, and I don't think, I mean, yeah, I don't think it would.

Starting point is 01:00:14 I think that there's just too much out there, and there's too many voices, and there's too many opinions, and there's too many sides too and to it.............. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, thi... So, thi... So, thi. So, th. So, thi. So, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. the the thi. the the the the the world is the world is the world is the chatter the way it didn't 15 years ago when things were just getting started. Well, Plandemic went viral and so did Shadowgate. The problem, if you guys haven't talked to Ben Swan, get on his platform, the ISC. that media, he hosted the Plannedemic documentary,

Starting point is 01:00:39 the full documentary when he came out recently, so did London Real TV. They hosted it. so talk to them. They have their own platforms. You can put it on there where you can kind of bypass some censorship. But it does piss me off the fact that the 20 minute pandemic documentary that was on YouTube and Facebook and being shared everywhere went viral. Then when he released a whole documentary because it wasn't on those platforms, I don't know nearly as many people that watched it... it sucks that people will not go out of their way just to type in a different URL to go watch something that could change your life or change your perspective or something that's really important, it could connect some dots.

Starting point is 01:01:17 You know, that part really kind of bothers me. Well, I think that's the difference, right, because they're so good and so quick that they only give it a one to two week cycle max. I mean, two weeks at this point is a huge cycle for any specific piece of information to get any kind of push. If it's more than two weeks, it's huge in this new cycle. And 9-11 was something we heard and saw every day of our lives five to ten times a day for almost a decade after. Easily in the fifth year you were still, there wasn't a way that you could turn on any type of mainstream entertainment and it not be integrated somehow.

Starting point is 01:01:55 So that way, in that sense it was very different. And again, this was when technologies were competing to be that mainstream platform that everybody was clicking on. Remember, Google bought YouTube for $8 billion. You know, they swallowed them up and then got rid of Google video. So, I don't want to discourage people because I still think it's an amazing medium. And for those that do go out of their way to watch something like that, and let it go viral and see it on the side,

Starting point is 01:02:23 and you know, you look at loose change change change change the time maybe one of a kind but there were successors to that that definitely went viral the zeitgeist films were able to gain some of that momentum and really go viral and be talked about I which is funny because zeitgeist use large pieces of loose change and then people came to me and they were like, oh, have you seen Zykeist? And I'm like, yeah, there's parts of my movie in there. Sorry. Peter Joseph back in the day, that's a long time ago, man.

Starting point is 01:02:52 God, we're old. We're old men. But the point of being is, we've got to figure out how to utilize what's TikTok or Instagram and all this other stuff, that's the way to do it. Like I saw this one kid, I didn't agree with everything he was putting out, but he was like this viral influencer kid that was putting up stuff about high-level child abuse, et cetera, through TikTok and trying to be inventive that way. And you can almost also see the evolution of documentary films and how long people were paying attention.

Starting point is 01:03:25 You know, loose change second edition, 80 minutes, probably the most popular one, as much as I love the final cut, you know, that was a little over two hours long for people. The other big viral sensation later on, that was 45 minutes, that was Coney, that was straight propaganda. That shows you how effective that medium can be. But now fast forward to here and you talk about Planned Dammock 1, you're down to 20, 22 minutes. You know, and it's able to go viral, but at the same time it goes viral, they're just as quick and censoring it.

Starting point is 01:03:55 I hate to be a Debbie Downer here guys, because I'd love to find a solution to that. But when you're the number the number the number the number number number the number number number number number number number number number number number number number number number number the number number number number number number number number the number number number the number number number number one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooan. the the the the the the the. the thean. the the tean. tean. thea. thea. thea. toa. toa. toenda. toe engine in the world when you're Google and then YouTube and your parent company is alphabet and you're doing busy business with the NSA and NASA constantly, it's just a whole new playing field. And the other thing is most people are absorbing it through the little magic box. So they've already got an attention span of what? What are you going to get him for? Six fucking minutes? Maybe? I see my analytics. If I got nine and a half minutes, that's big time. You know what I'm saying, guys? Look at

Starting point is 01:04:30 Corbett's video. The five minute, 9-11 video? I mean, that went viral. That was one of his most famous videos ever. It was only five minutes. And I think that obviously that was a big part part of it because people could just share it. It didn't the the th. It didn't th. It didn't th. It didn't, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th of, th of th of th of th of thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. I's thi. thi. thi. I's thi. thi. I's thi. thi. thi. I's thi up a lot of your time. Even the pandemic documentary, the new one, I think it's like a little over hour, it isn't that long and I think that's a big part of it too. It's like you probably understood. I need to force feed this information quickly because you'll just tune out once look at my phone, I'll start thinking about other things I could be watching, you know, it's like, it's, and a lot of it's because of big tech. I mean, big tech just forced, you know, constantly giving you that serotonin dump.

Starting point is 01:05:14 So you're so used to like quick satisfaction that it's like the second you have to wait something else. Do people feel like podcasting is like comparatively untouched as far as like what's happening with YouTube and censorship? Like I just feel like people who are listening to podcasts they're already making a different kind of commitment. Like nobody's going, no one's rifling through podcast two minutes at a time. It's just a different kind of media consumption exercise, right? But yeah, that happens on YouTube because there's that devilish side column there if you're on a

Starting point is 01:05:50 computer just saying, well, look at these other things you could watch. But that doesn't that doesn't happen with podcast. And we're in people's the ears once a week, multiple times a a week, some of us, some of us, some of us every day. And th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and the, and th. And, and the, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, there, there's, there's there's there's, their, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's, there's there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's, there's, there's there's there's their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their their their their their their theust. We're building relationships with these people with very few of the interferences that we encounter through IG, TV or YouTube. So I'm just wondering if people feel like they're utilizing that property, and properly, excuse me, and it's a superior as far as like being able to build relationships and maintain attention that's a superior platform. Part of it is that it's audio only really and people can do other things

Starting point is 01:06:32 driving doing the dishes doing their shit around the house while they're listening. Yeah. It also activates different part of your mind. Yeah. I mean audio only activates a different part of your mind. You have to use your imagination where if you're on video, it's everything's being fed to you. I'm an audio only, I prefer audio only for that reason. It does force your brain to do things that watching the video. It's just kind of given to you. I think podcast listeners listen a little bit more intently and much longer. And like Jason said, just look at the video analytics versus like your hardcore listeners to the podcast the the hardcore people listen to the podcast and the people who stop by the video is not there's some hardcore but you look at the analytics what they listen for 10 to 20 minutes and that's

Starting point is 01:07:15 hardcore listeners so yeah audio supreme in my opinion well and you know and you know you look at like Joe Rogan's podcast where you know obviously he has the long-form uploads obviously but on YouTube the popular Joe Rogan clips are always the small segments from the podcast and then from there you're encouraged to go and find the entire podcast to listen. I mean it's happened with a couple things where I saw like a three-minute clip with like James Cameron or something. I was like wow I didn't know Joe Rogan had James Cameron on. I want to listen to the whole episode now. But I mean, it goes back to what several of you were saying, which is basically podcasts are passive and video consumption is active. You know, podcasts, you put them on for a drive, you do your chores,

Starting point is 01:07:53 whatever, and it just kind of goes in your ear and you can kind of let it rattle around in your brain, whereas a video on a video on Facebook, a video, a video, or a video, or a video, or a video, or a video, or a video, or a video, or a video, a video, or a video, or a video, a video, or a video, and a video, and a video, and a video, and a video, and a video, and a video, and a video, and a it still has to play and you still have to like devote a certain amount of your attention to it whereas podcasts you know you just put them on you and do whatever else you want to do so that's what I got. And by the way Rogan to Spotify today he's actually. I saw. I saw now with Duked Drusl. And I like the video, I'll tell you what, I just wrote across the country, right? I was just over in Iowa, I got back on Friday. I had actually the video version, I know I shouldn't have,

Starting point is 01:08:31 the video version of his podcast playing while I was driving through Middle America, but sometimes I like to catch a facial feature. In fact, as much as the audio stuff for some people, I'm in front of four monitors guys. While I'm sitting th I I'm sitting here th I'm sitting here the the the thi I'm the the thi I'm the stuff for some people, I'm in front of four monitors, guys. While I'm sitting here, you know, running this thing and in between and research and my stuff, one of my monitors can be Joe Rogan's podcast. And every once in a while I want to see that facial reaction. Well, I'm hoping that Spotify, for instance, allows more of people to do those kind of video, long form podcast. Because, podcast. Because we talk about podcasts.

Starting point is 01:09:05 I guess everybody calls this stuff podcasting, but if you're on my channel, I do plenty of videos that are like 10 to 15 minutes, just short. If I were to weave those into a podcast for a day, you know, I guess some of them would be over two hours, depending on if I'm doing interviews or whatever, but even if I did, you know, seven of them at 10 minutes, it's still over an hour. And I think that I get great analytics on those.

Starting point is 01:09:28 Sucks, I'm demonitized. But on a, you know, a 10 or 11 minute video, I'm still pulling seven or eight minutes. So I think there is something to be said about the short form. And by the way, that's the reason I do it live and I do it that style is because it goes out right away. If I mess up, I just move on and apologize. I don't sit there and worry too much about editing. And I have the entire internet at the tip of my finger. If I start talking about a document, I have the document.

Starting point is 01:09:54 If I want to play Andrew Cuomo talking about SWAT teams. We have an incredible opportunity to share information and hopefully just like, you know, back in our day 15 years ago, we utilized Google versus YouTube when they were competitors. Maybe we can leverage Spotify, which is owned by Microsoft against, against YouTube in some sense by making an Exodus there. So I'm rooting for Rogin, man. I'm hoping that he's going to go more hardcore and they're going to allow more free speech there and it's not going to be some kind to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be the to be th their th th th th their th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the thi thi thi the the the the the the. the. to thean. to thean. to thean. their their their thean. their their thean. thea. the. the So I'm rooting for Rogan, man. I'm hoping that he's going to go more hardcore and they're going to allow more free speech there and it's not going to be some kind of fucking cancel culture. Maybe my dreams are too high, but that's how you get a Richard Gage and other architects and engineers for 911 on a platform that people see it again. They come across it again in the algorithm because they used to come across that people see it again. They come across it again in the algorithm. Because they used to come across that stuff and they...

Starting point is 01:10:46 Maybe, yeah, maybe Joe Rogan will bring the rest of us over to Spotify too and there'll be, you know, one place that doesn't censor people that we can all go to. I mean, I've been waiting for that for four years since YouTube began censoring people. So is that where we're going to end up? Because YouTube said, we're going to change the algorithms. 9-11 is not going to be on our 9-11 truth, is not going to be on our platform anymore. We've been waiting to get canceled any minute. We have 50,000 or 60,000 subscribers over here, over there.

Starting point is 01:11:30 I just thought it was a point worth making because like I've been doing what I do for about 11 years using both YouTube and you know an RSS feed for a podcast. I've watched both, you know, 10 years ago where the Wild West you could do whatever you wanted and you know YouTube is walking on in eggshells today just to keep your channel. I've almost lost my channel several times. I don't even use it anymore. Podcasting has remained steady. Like I've never been mess with and that was the other part of my question I was just curious if anyone wanted to weigh in who use both YouTube and a podcast feed. Has your podcast ever been screwed with along the terms of in terms of censorship at any point? One time and I think the crime America guy's same same same guest right Del Big Tree. When I had Dell on this this last time iTunes wouldn't

Starting point is 01:12:17 play it for a while and then I was getting some tech bullshit about like oh this is why it's not working. I'm like well that's funny because I know a couple other people who had them on who also had a similar the similar the similar th a similar to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to the the the to to the the to to the to to to th of th of th of th. th. their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te why it's not working I'm like well that's funny because I know a couple other people who had them on who also had a similar issue. Lipson wouldn't even let me publish an episode called COVID cures. Lipson did that to you? That's who I did it. They didn't outright say anything. No it was Lipson. They didn't outright say anything and it might it still no it just wouldn't send. Like, you know how when you publish an episode on Lipson, you can go and see its status and it'll say pending and then I'll say release. So I tried it like eight times with the title,

Starting point is 01:12:53 COVID cures and it would just sit on pending for 20 minutes. I couldn't get it to release. And then finally, after like two hours, I was like, well, what the fuck? So I tried changing the cures to a Q and then we did it and it published within five minutes. I'm surprised it let you with a Q. Yeah, they didn't like cues. Yeah, I did, I did have to hack it too. I did a series called This is a test.

Starting point is 01:13:17 It was like four or five parts about theories about it. And I think I had to use the zero for the O and a lower case L for the I, and that seemed to work. But I was very hesitant to even put the word in the show notes because, I mean, that's how they're flagging people. I've seen it in my stuff on Instagram and on Facebook, if you use the word, it will say, you need help from the CDC and the WHO with what you're trying to do because you might not have the best information.

Starting point is 01:13:49 So let us help you. Well, to be fair, I probably don't, but I put it out there anyways. I like to have fun. Right. Yeah, no, I think I wanted to mention. We were earlier, we were talking about similarities between 9-11, you know, that obviously is where this discussion started and COVID. And on the surface, it might not really look like there's a ton of similarities, you're talking about a virus versus a, you know, a terrorist attack, but I think it's important

Starting point is 01:14:23 for people maybe that are new to this that are just, you know, maybe coming in because of COVID and not knowing all the details of 9-11, there is one major similarity between the two of them, and that is that both of them had drills running, simulating the events that were going to happen in almost identical fashions. And I think that that's interesting for people to remember because, because because because because because, because, because, because, the, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, their, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and, and, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thooooooto happen in almost identical fashions. And I think that that's interesting for people to remember because, you know, on the days leading up to 9-11 and 9-11 itself, there were upwards of 40 drills that were happening. Some of them were simulating planes flying into buildings and other planes being hijacked, which is, you know, it's a mathematical impossibility that you would be running these drills in the same time that they were actually happening.

Starting point is 01:15:09 It's just not possible. But now we have the COVID situation and that's what we wound up getting, which in October 19th of 2019 simulated almost exactly an outbreak of the coronavirus and that's what we wound up getting. So, you know, if people want to try and draw some parallels here, there's monkey business going on here for sure. We obviously the media being involved in the lies and be, you know, that's constant as well. But, but, but, remember the drills and look into the drills because, because tell you what, you can't, you can only get away with that maybe once where you have a drill that simulates something. But if you go back and look at Oklahoma City and World Trade Center and.

Starting point is 01:15:56 What about the 7-7 bombing? And all these things over and over again, you start having these drills, that should send off alarm bills and the same thing is currently happening with the Corona situation. There was a drill that people have been talking about. I just want to make sure that people connect that to 9-11 as well because there's a lot of similarities there. Yeah but Snope said that they said that they they said it wasn't connected. Oh well then okay well never mind that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the thi. the they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. the. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S, well, then, okay, well, never mind that. But you know what was interesting about that is that they were just so brazen about it that they did put it, I mean, I know it's part of the new pandemic documentary, but they

Starting point is 01:16:31 put it into a video format and they said, you know, this coronavirus, a novel coronavirus, using a lot of the same terminology. This one comes from South America and a pig. But when you look at it, you've got the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation there. It's Johns Hopkins University. It's the United Nations. It's NBC Universal. It's the World Bank. It's the IMF.

Starting point is 01:16:53 It's all these same people, the CDC in China and the United States that were big players in this same thing. And right away, within the first part of of of of of of, of, of, of, of, of, the countermeasures, the first part of this five-part series, they talk about censoring the internet and they follow it up later on. And we saw that happen almost immediately. The trigger started to get pulled really early on in April. And again, that has been tightening and tightening. At first, it was just those wacky conspiracy theorists or doctors that dare said that they

Starting point is 01:17:27 could cure it. Then it got to the point where doctors were talking about treatments or even talking about ventilators and they were getting taken off. And then nurses were taken off for hidden video footage. Never in America's history, have we ever censored on a platform raw, hidden video footage of crimes, period. They've always been celebrated before this, and they did it lockstep. So I think you're right, there are a ton of those parallels, especially when you look

Starting point is 01:17:56 at 9-11 and you look at the hijackings that were going on outside of the country that morning through these drills. You almost have to wonder if it has that revelation of the method element where they really want you to feel to take responsibility for it because they're telling you they're doing it, they're telling you who's doing it and you really, most people are acquiescing. It makes you feel almost like a kind of black magic form of consent. For sure. That's a really good point. And that sounds crazy to people. The first time you hear something like that. But event 201, talking about 10 years

Starting point is 01:18:33 of economic impact, societal impact. When I first saw that event to a one, and I personally believe that's why I got taken off the terrestrial radio. I was on for eight and a half years. I talked about everything. But when I started talking about that, I even when I started talking about it on February 8th, I thought that was too much. I thought it was going too far to say 10 years of economic damage, 10 years of societal impact. I didn't realize they were planning this revolution of the world, a kind of cultural revolution like from the 60s or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, or world, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, th, th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th, like it's almost like every 50 years, there's this major transformation of society. And when it's kind of like we ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that we ate from the tree and now we're all, the majority of people are going along with this. And they could, they could not accept it, but they accepted.

Starting point is 01:19:25 And that same thing happened after 9-11, like with the Seymour Hirschschle, there were so many people, so many Democrats who came out after 9-11. It said, all these Republicans, full of the World Trade Center, and then as soon as Obama took office and did not reveal it, all of a sudden, the Democrats just go along with it. Well, I think that's a big difference between COVID and 9-11.

Starting point is 01:19:46 9-11 was kind of like more of a unification type event, and I think COVID is the exact opposite of that. COVID is keep picking sides until there's only one he is left, and then we can really steam role in place. No, I think I think they have the same strategies. Is the COVID is using guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt is using guilt the guilt the guilt is using guilt the guilt the guilt is using guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt is using guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt the guilt thethink they have the same strategies. It's just the COVID is using guilt more and shame more than brute force with 9-11 in the security state. And I feel like you've gotten a little bit stupider.

Starting point is 01:20:14 I think COVID is very specifically to divide the public and I think the riots are to further escalate that, whereas I think 9-11 was more to Convince you guys to go jump on board with going and fucking up the rest of the world and not causing too much trouble Now it's more like okay, we've dealt with them. We can kind of deal with them now You guys are kind of a problem. So we're just gonna turn you on each other for race and mass and vaccines and man versus woman and? Let's not get to rich versus poor because that might the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck the the the to fuck to fuck to fuck to fuck, to fuck, to to fuck, to f to fuck. to f to fuck. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thucucucucucucucucucucucucu. the rest the rest the rest the rest of the apple cart. But I think that's the main difference. And also by weakening internally the U.S., they can allow the sunset of the U.S. and the rise of China, whereas like with World War I to World War II, it was the sunset of the UK and the rise of the US. I feel like these things are pretty well orchestrated from the top. 9-11 was a destabilizing operation for the Middle East, and the coronavirus situation is a destabilizing operation for the United States.

Starting point is 01:21:18 It's really Uri Bismanoff, right? Like if people like Russia conspiracies, the G. Edward Griffin interview with Yuri Bismanoff, the KGB detector, where he talked about subversion. He said in the KGB, we're not spying. We spend all our money on subversion campaigns and how, you know, the process of demoralizing and dividing the public takes a long time. You're talking about an investment of decades. But if, you know, the average American is so enamored the the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the possibility, the, the the the the to to to, to to to to too, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the the the the th the the th th th too too too too too too too too the the the the the the takes a long time, you're talking about an investment of decades. But if, you know, the average American is so enamored with the possibility of a Russia conspiracy, I encourage them to check that one out because it really looks like it's happening

Starting point is 01:21:54 in this country. Well, it's funny because on my show, it's some things that get brought up over and over again, and we talk about the coups in Central America, you know, Guatemala, we talk about their their their their their their their their thes that get brought up over and over again. And we talk about like the coups in Central America, you know, Guatemala, we talk about the Iran coup and their early 50s, all the stuff. And even when I'm talking about, I'm like, wow, man, like, imagine the strategy, the how detailed it has to be to get a country to just fall apart like that and turn on each other and have, you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're doing like they're doing the same shit here the same strategies in the US I'm like this is how you this is how you an when yeah and when you look back it always like when you read that history or you check out what happened out of the country like well you

Starting point is 01:22:35 know the people were hungry and they started to rise up and then they took over the Russian Revolution and you see that other countries put inserted agents provocateur to rile certain people up, then swap out the revolution half by through, like the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, even the American Revolution. And now I see not only are those parallels like, oh, this is how a country collapses, but wow, this is how a country has controlled demolition, this is how a country has controlled demolition. This is how a country is subverted. This is how a country they blame the unrest. They act like it's a grassroots thing, but maybe it never is.

Starting point is 01:23:12 Monica, you're gonna like, I've got a new book coming out with Jeff Berwick in a couple of weeks called the Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. Perfect. I did not coin that. Yeah, it is. It's explains. I's, I's, I's, it's, I's, it's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, great. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. tho. tho. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the c. the c. the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. thea. thea. to. to. to. tooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. tha. tha. that. I think I got it from you. But yeah, it is going to be, I mean, Great name. We take no pleasure in that analysis of it because right, me too.

Starting point is 01:23:31 We don't like the idea that it looks like the United States has been set up to be brought down, but unfortunately, if you follow the evidence, it's sort of, I mean, it leads to that scary. It's scary, it's scary, it's scary, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's terrifying, it's that it's terrifying, it's that it's that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the th. to. to. to. to. th. to. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. to that direction. It's scary. It's scary. Yeah, it's terrifying that there are people that, you know, with, that they could put all of their energy into making this world a better place. But they choose to put it into destroying things, destroying, starting color revolutions. The black manathing stuff. That are, that are, take all their wealth and do the most despicable things with it. And I'm not just try to say the left is the only one doing that. But but you know it what a waste.

Starting point is 01:24:10 We could have such a better world if we had that. It's so sinister. It feels like it's sinister in nature. It's so it's can't even be serving their interests. What are they not human. They they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't. T they don't. T they don't. T they not human? They don't have kids. They don't have a future. They're going to die. It makes you wonder what they're really up to. And I mean, I'm not one of the occult people or the black magic stuff, but just like over the past couple of days.

Starting point is 01:24:32 I'm like this doesn't make any sense. Like what is your purpose here? And it could just, yeah, granted it's to collapse us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us, the, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, to collapse, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I. the the to to to to to to to the to to to the to to the to the the the to the the, I, I'm, I'm the, I, I,'t understand why. Well, if we all agree that we live in a deeply demoralized and divided country, and that this has been done by design, right? I think we're all on that page to some degree, it brings us back to the question about, are we post-imperisism? Are we post-proof? Like, as far as outreach and persuasion is concerned, what's the strategy if you look at a truth movement that in a lot of ways has spun its wheels for 20 years, right? So what are we selling? Why wake up? Why wake up? I'll tell you why. There's, you know, because the thing is when we're trying to get people on board on the 9-11 thing. And any time it has it has it has it has it has it has that has that has that has that has that has that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th is th is th is th is th is th is th th is th. thi thi thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. we're trying to get people on board on the 9-11 thing, and any time it has to do with geopolitics, and I think that's always been on topic I've been super fascinated with

Starting point is 01:25:29 but it was hard to get people also fascinated with it, right? Because it was like, hey, I get to go to work, I get to bring my kids to soccer practice, I get to do all my everyday life. And even if we're in Afghanistan their tha tha tha a war, right? I feel fucking normal. So who cares if we evade another country? My life doesn't change, but this topic, the COVID topic, it's affecting people. You can't avoid it. It's affecting, you know, your kids, your schools, I mean, literally everything. I mean, the way our societies are built and designed. And so I think this topic more than just about almost anything might be the, like they overplay their hand where it might be the thing that wakes more people up than just about any event. I think every event, okay, see whatever may be, there's people who live through that, question it and it becomes their red pill where like this is the thing that woke me up but I think this one more than ever has the potential to wake up more people because you can't avoid it like it's what I'm saying it's the

Starting point is 01:26:31 golden that's why I started with saying it was the golden age of opportunity even for bringing people into the fold of 9-11 11 th 11 but 9-11 synchronicity. I was into coast-to-coast radio for a while. I was just consuming it all. Once I realized that what I had been fed the first 20-something years of my life was bullshit, I just wanted every alternative and then eventually I had start sorting it and start discarding some of it. But I just wanted to, you know, go up and go in and scoop everything that I could that wasn't coming out of the television or that I didn't learn in K-12 or college. So yeah, I totally agree with what you're saying, Ricky, golden age of opportunity right now because people are literally being shaken awake by the the answer.

Starting point is 01:27:25 But what do you, sorry, Monica, how do you sell it? What is the benefit that you sell of doing it, which I think is like a super important consideration? Sorry, go ahead. I just think that the answer might lie in what they absolutely, I'm in LA now, so I see that we absolutely will not allow bars and churches and even gyms to some extent, but like the fact that they will not allow unmonitored free-form Congregation and association means to me they realize how dangerous it is for people to just relax and be honest with each other and

Starting point is 01:28:03 express their emotions that that that is where the power is and I feel like if there's a way to to to to just relax and be honest with each other and express their emotions that that is where the power is. And I feel like if there's a way to, I mean, I think that's what the Achilles heel is just that, you know, but the problem is they've got it all funneled through the virtual world now where you know it's being censored. Anyway, that's, I just feel like that is the linchpin and I can't really figure out how we can pull it. Is there a pill to set us back to like unawake? Yeah, heroin.

Starting point is 01:28:33 I mean, I just shot, though. Just give it up. Hey, Dylan. I got a boot, I got to scoot. I have to actually work on seven and something else for architects architects, the the the the the the the the the thage, thage, thage, thage, thage, thage, there. I do have to scoot. I got some, I have to actually work on seven and something else for architects and engineers. And I see that the show is apparently over soon anyway. So thank you everybody for having me. I'm going to scoot and yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, and keep us all updated on when the film releases, you know, we'll all share it, help promote it, all that stuff. And definitely look into other platforms. It doesn't to to to to to the the the the the the their their their their their. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've the, I've to, I've to, I've to, I've toe, I've to, I've to work, I've to work, I've to work, I've to work, I've to work, I've to work.e, I've to work.e, I have to work, I, I, I, I.e, I.e, I.e, the the the the, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, the, the.cue.e.e.e. And, thea.ea.ea.ea.e.e. And, toe. And, toe. And, toe. And, the. And, the. And all that stuff, and definitely look into other platforms. It doesn't hurt to get on ISE, or yeah, ISE.med.med. Media with Ben Juan and another play. Because you never know the censorship you might run into. That's true, but I mean, like, thankfully 1091, they kind of, and I hate to say this. their censorship, and I'm, thrown. they, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. Yeah, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. to say this, conspiracy documentaries. So they seem pretty caught, because we had discussed this with them pretty early on, we're like, hey, like, what are your thoughts

Starting point is 01:29:28 on possible censorship of this, et cetera? And they're like, we're not too worried about it. I mean, they deal on this kind of subject matter all the time. And again, it should hopefully have a little bit more of an end than I guess some other docs might. But we'll see. I mean, I'm going to be appearing over the anniversary with Kelly, David of architects and engineers and she also help produce the documentary. I'll be appearing right before Lee Ray Halsey himself as well. So yeah, we should hopefully at that time be able to announce a release date and start

Starting point is 01:30:05 getting this thing out there, see how it goes. Awesome. Well, thanks though, thanks for being with us and I'm sure we'll all keep in toucest. Good sown. God bless you. We'll talk to you soon. Great job. That's it.

Starting point is 01:30:21 I'm out of here. You don't use enough of those, Mike. Too many people in the show. I can use them all. But I love the fact that we did a show that kind of focused a little bit on 9-11 because we have been got so caught up in this COVID thing that we forget. Similar situations have happened and they're equally as important, really because, you know, like Charlie said, there's so many similarities in regards to the war games and how they it all happens and they pretend like oh we could have never prepared for this we could have never guess this happens and come to find out like if you watch event 201 and the beginning of pandemic when they show parts of it

Starting point is 01:30:59 it will blow your fucking mind how identical it is to what's going on right now like when they talk about there's going to be the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be the the the the the the the the the the the the they talk about there's gonna be conspiracy theories, there's gonna be riots, there's gonna be, you know, literally they're describing right now. So and then when people are like, oh, we couldn't have prepared for it, it's like, right, that's what they told you before 9-11, even though Bush had a document that said I'll kind kind of, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to be to be to be to be to be to be thi. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. thi, th. th. their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, th..... It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thri. thri. theean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. there's there's their owers and all that stuff. So yeah, I mean, learning history is just incredibly important. And when you, you know, it's easy to get caught up in current events and just lose interest and kind of, you know, I guess refreshing your memory with stuff that's happened in the past, but I think it's important.

Starting point is 01:31:38 But back to Brett's question is, this time, like we're not talking about something that happened in the past or some conspiracy that affected a small amount of people. We've been living in this conspiracy for what, six months now and it's affecting people's lives, their kids going to school or their health, I mean, everything, the economy. So I think that's why it's important to try and keep talking to people and why it's important that people start waking up to all this. Yeah, well it's funny because I'm sure you guys probably felt the same way like you wonder like if I was alive during a J of K assassination, would I believe the mainstream narrative or would I be woke enough to question it? Same thing like when 9-11 happened I was really young. It wasn't until like Jason Burmison and Dylan really came out with that documentary that really made me question it. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to th. to th. to to the the the the the the tel to tel thea to to to to tha to tha to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I wo th. I wo th. I wo th. I wo th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi. I te tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell theeeeeeeeeeee. I w it. But I want, I want to believe that like, okay, if I was being lied to to that extent, I would question things. And like, you know, like you said, it, we're living through it right now

Starting point is 01:32:33 and and we're seeing past the bullshit. And we, you know, I think, I think now, I think now because it's getting so deep root in our personal lives, it's a great, it's a, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, to, to, to, to be to be to be to be to be thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to, to, to, to be super depressing and be like, oh my god, look it, like in a way it's easy to be depressing because it is getting so involved in our personal lives, but it's also the reason why I think more people than maybe any other issue, more people are getting upset and getting and fighting back because it's like, I don't affect in my personal life. And don't get me wrong. Part of me wants to just disengage from the whole thing, from everything. The culture, the technology, just everything. Just, it does say. That's what I do.

Starting point is 01:33:14 Well, I think we can all build fairly sizable followings, like, the truth of this thing, but if a big part of it is solutions, like one of the things I always try to ask myself, I forget to ask myself this too much and I get caught up in the drama of all of this, is like, how do I demonstrate that I have more autonomy and more happiness because of what I know, right? Because that's what people want. I mean, deep down, that's what people, I feel like I don't want to should at people, but I feel like that's what people should want. And I feel like there's a lot of people on the viewing side who almost regard this as like a form of pornography, right? That's a huge problem or an addiction.

Starting point is 01:33:59 There's like a guy in addiction to the news cycle, and that's what I like to to to the the the the the the the that I like the the that's what I like thi thi thi, I like that's what I like thi, I like thi, I like that's what I like that's that's what I like the, I like that's thi, I thi, I like, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. that's, th. that's th. th. that's th. that's thi, that's thi, that's what that's what thi, that's what that's what thi, that's what that's what that's what the. that's what that's what that's what that's what that's what thean, that's what that's what that's the to say to people, is that just watch, because you might know that the world ended like three weeks before I do, but I'm prepared for the world to end. So make sure you're factoring that into your information gathering, because if you're not adjusting your life on the back end when you're not staring at your screen and scrolling through articles or checking your sources to make sure you know you've got that next hot scoop, you know, what are you going to do with power goes out tomorrow or if the internet goes out tomorrow or what what are you doing in the meantime other than spreading links and stuff to actually change the world. And I think that's the other thing to do

Starting point is 01:34:40 when you're not podcasting or researching from the podcast is to make sure you're taking your kids out and doing some painting or some fishing or some hunting or some hiking or some gardening or some preserving or some. I mean not watching TV. That's that's the main thing. Like I've gotten this video shit almost out of my life. I'm down to about an hour a week. I'll watch a couple, maybe an episode of a loan with my girlfriend once a week or I have this thing with the office that I just sort of keep going through it because it seems wholesome and there doesn't seem to be any agenda to it and I like it. So those are like the only two things that I really watch, I watch a little bit immediate or sometimes too. But, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've, I, I've, I've, I've, I've, I, I've, I've, and I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have thi, I have, I have th, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have I have, I have th, I have th, I have th, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I've thi, I have thi, I have thi and I've kind of replaced all that video in my life with audio books or books and like Mike was saying before your brain just starts working on a whole different level when you get that fucking video out of your

Starting point is 01:35:35 life and you just start listening and listening and your imagination is working and it's just it's worth a shot I think it's worth a shot to at least balance that out with making sure you know what's going on with COVID and you're up to up to speed on the news cycle. Make sure you're up to speed on what's, you know, good for you. Well, that's a really important part of all this. It's like we can't get so just distract or fighting against people not letting us enjoy life can consume so much of your life that you don't have any time to enjoy life. Like don't forget to enjoy life. Like we're all

Starting point is 01:36:12 upset because it's like you're getting in the way of us and being able to be free and do well guess what? You still have some freedoms and experience that and spend time with your kids. Don't you know don't just spend time yelling about how my kids have to wear a mask, but take them outside and do things with them and and whatnot. You know, I mean, we're all fighting for these freedoms and these rights that are obviously we're losing them, but it's also important to also enjoy them. You know, enjoy, don't get so deep rooted in these issues that it can completely consumes your life. Yeah, and I didn't mean to sound, I don't want to come across as naive in asking that question, how do we show people that we're freer and happier because you know, you're right. I mean, there is a

Starting point is 01:36:56 total war on freedom right now, a war on all fronts, economic, health freedom, freedom. I mean, with COVID, it's spread into areas that some of us, even some of us probably never imagined that it would. So yeah, I do think that there's a balance that needs to be achieved between like being vigilant in our defense, but also doing exactly what you're saying, Ricky, which is remembering to live like a happy and fulfilled life and showing people that you have one and part of the reason why you have it is because you're educating yourself, partially for the purpose of defending yourself against this all-out assault on, you know, every aspect of our freedom. That's the big question. Absolutely. Well, thanks everybody for being with me. I really,

Starting point is 01:37:45 really appreciate it. If anybody has anything they want to plug, anything you want to tell the listeners, I know sometimes listeners are like, how come you don't tell people whose voices, who and what not? I'm like, I think we attempted that, like one of the first episodesthen you know it's an hour later but um but anybody have anything to unplug or let people know where they can connect with you if they want to hear more of you I think everyone should get chickens yeah I agree I'm getting a few nobody wants a plug we have a now we've Jason Burmess the Info Warrior Nohem Ricky ripple effect podcast Charlie Macrogressions Brett Sch. And we have Monica down there from the Propaganda Report podcast. So, and I'm like, go BDM podcast. Thanks, Mike.

Starting point is 01:38:32 Perfect. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you guys. Bye.

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