Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #375: Animal Communication with Katherine O'Shea and Lindsey Scharmyn

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Starting point is 00:01:38 great dude a lot more people listening this time and watching which is interesting I think it depends on whether when YouTube demonitized it initially a lot more people thi thi thi th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they. thi thi thi they thi thi. I think it depends on whether when YouTube demonitizes it initially a lot more people end up listening to it because I think they can't find it on YouTube. Put my name on anything nobody you the tech giants will bury it. That's just how come. YouTube by by way that slash Sam Tripoli comedy the links in the description. The Instagram our Temple band hard and there's a hard Instagram of us out there which is a compliment but I know it's out there I got to put that out don't follow that one. Yeah we're getting shadow band and it is is what it is guys

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Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. Oh, and I'm really getting a spirituality, man. So Timfall helped you figure out what's going on. And my new podcast, zero available on Rockfin.com, helps you to deal with it and it's all about going deep inside your soul and finding and knowing that you are the only one that could save you nobody else is coming to save you you you've got to save yourself dad you got to save yourself mama go save yourself and that is zero on rockfin are okay F i and So we got a great show for you. It's about animal communications, animal communicating. It's with a woman named Catherine O'Shea and Lindsay Charmann.

Starting point is 00:05:35 So check it out. Enjoy the show. I love you guys very much. I can't tell you how much I love you, Swarm without you, we just be talking to herself. Enjoy the show. Get into it, super excited, you know, I just enjoy doing different, you know, subjects on the show. If we just sit there and it's everything's deep state,

Starting point is 00:05:58 and you know, and all this, and the world's doom and gloom, it could just wear on your soul. So I like to mix it up and, you know, like for me, it's like, I like to go, I want to say this so it doesn't come off as dis- I like to go as bizarre as possible. And I mean that in the most loving way possible. I know these sounds like negative terms, but they're not like the we're th wier., negative terms, but they're not like the weirder, the more bizarre.

Starting point is 00:06:26 That's what I love. So, and I think this falls under it. I mean that with all 100% love and respect, I'm super excited to do this episode. Joining us is she's been on a show a couple times now. We've done some weird readings of the earth. And now she's back again. She's from the Rogue Way podcast super rogue way podcast super excited to have a guy

Starting point is 00:06:49 Please welcome up Lindsay Sherman everybody. How are you? What's up? What's up Sam? It's nice to be back. Thanks for having always a pleasure. Look at it. You're all dolled up. You're looking. I know you always look good, but now you look even you look even better. I'm super excited to have to have this next guest guest to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the the to to the the to to to to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th tho. tho. tho. thooooooooooooo. tooooooo. toooo. too. to. too. to. to to to to to have this next guest on. She is, I think this is wonderful and I'm so excited to talk about. She is an animal communicator. Yes, please welcome Catherine O'Shea. How are you Catherine? Awesome, thank you so much. Yeah let's get weird. I'm glad you would enjoy it. I'm trying to think about how to phrase it but let's, it just is what it it is, but it is, but it is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I think, I think, thi, I'm, I think, I think, I'm, I'm thi, I thi, I thi, I thi,'m trying to think about how to phrase it, but it just is what it is, but I love it, dude. I like, I think these are the ones that kind of just let you, okay, the world isn't doom and gloom and we can't, you know, we don't have an alien apocalypse coming

Starting point is 00:07:37 and it's just like maybe we just have a little fun and discussing. Because not everything in thi the the the the the the their their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the is all. I actually think it's more positive and negative, but it seems like people get drawn like Moth to a light to the negative stuff and I'd rather focus on the positive stuff. So before we get into that, Lindsay, one more time, can you tell us about your podcast where they can find you? Yes, Rogue Waves is the podcast and you can go to Rogue Ways.org. It's not Rogue Wave, even though Rogue Waves are awesome. It's Rogue Waves.

Starting point is 00:08:07 Can I say waves? I'm not, no, no, you didn't. I just say that because people hear it and they're like, oh yeah, I know what rogue waves are and then they can't find it. I'm like, well, it's Rogue Ways. was a lot of fun and people enjoyed it. This one is so awesome. Like you're a crowd, your people listen to the show are so amazingly. Just, I don't know, I love them so much. So many of them have connected and I love it. And now they're going to love Catherine and I'm so excited about that.

Starting point is 00:08:35 Now, Catherine, do you have a podcast? Or are you just, you know, running and gun? I do have a place where people can find me. They can find me on my website, soullight Pet Services.org. And I do a lot of live stuff and I make your son podcast. I don't have my own yet, but I'm like, I do so many sessions for people. I'm super excited about this. So you are an animal communicator. Is that the is that the professional term? Is it what do you better known as or are we gonna go animal communicator because I'm cool for any of it? Well I mean you know I think everybody connects to it differently. I think pet psychic is what a lot of people connect to. I don't necessarily consider myself a pet psychic. I'm not even really sure I know

Starting point is 00:09:28 what that means. But I'm a animal communication specialist. Like that's what I can specialize in. So I do a lot of channeling and a lot of communicating and animals is, is my ability to communicate with animals is much higher than anything else. That's what I roll with. Now do you, can you communicate with other things as well? Can you communicate with other things as well other than just, or is animals, or do you can, can communicate with everything but animals are just your,

Starting point is 00:10:01 your, your more powerful sense. Yeah, I can communicate with other things, definitely. So I channel a lot and. When you mean, do you mean like people, Sam, or plants and stuff? Yeah, like, people, maybe plants. Maybe I think I got crap for it before, but like, do, does like a desk have feelings, you know, and stuff like that? Like, I think, I think I got crap for it before but like to do does like a desk have feelings You know and stuff like that like I think everything is energy So why wouldn't it have it to a certain point right? I mean everything is energy?

Starting point is 00:10:46 Right. Well, that's just it. So that's how I'm communicating through frequency through vibration through message through information? You can call it soul you can call it spirit science is gonna call it information. to the information, threat science is gonna call. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thooooo thoooooo tho tho tho tho tho tho than, through vibration, through message, through information. You can call it soul, you can call it spirit. Science is going to call it information, right? So yeah, I connect to on that level, the level of information, level of soul, the level of spirit, the level of frequency and vibration, and that's what I communicate through. So yeah, I believe your desk has a frequency and a vibration and a service to offer and all of those things. I mostly like stick to connecting to light-filled things because that's I think how I can keep my channels pure and clean and receive like the highest information and and everything like that. Now, you say you connect to light, would that infer that there are animals with dark, dark energy? Well, this is how I feel about it.

Starting point is 00:11:30 I feel like everything has light and dark. Everybody has a passenger, a dark passenger. And that, I don't think that's a negative frequency. I just think that's just, you have a light, you have a dark, and your dark is more of your aid principle, more of like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, of like, you know, all the things that maybe you don't want to talk about out loud, but is just a part of the fabric of you. And like over time, these entities that have tried to take over our realm have demonized so they can control us.

Starting point is 00:12:01 But right, so I'm not trying to like channel a demon. But do animals have that I mean we've seen like pet cemetery where the cat comes back and it like kills everybody like like is is that possible is that out there are they like demotic animals animals? I think there are, it's possible that there's animals that work for that side, like the not side of things, but the animals on earth are mostly showing up to help us and to connect us to source love, which is why they're kind of a break, communicating and connecting to them,

Starting point is 00:12:47 just kind of a break from like all this other stuff that's going on in the world. Which is why, right, we're so happy when our little dog or cat or whatever lies on our lap or comes to comfort us. We're like, this is my safe place. Thank God, because they just are in the moment. They're so connected to unconditional love. They're not really worried about anything else. They have zero attachment and they just want to be upserviced and make you happy. And sometimes they even do it like in a way that's really frustrating to us.

Starting point is 00:13:18 Like tear up your couch or like whatever. Cats can be real assholes. Oh, dude. Sometimes it's to like get us to like step it up. Yeah. Come back and eaters and learn our lessons and like connect back to like whatever we need to like get over or get through or connect to or whatever we need to or whatever we need to step into, right? This is what I found through communicating with them.

Starting point is 00:13:45 It actually goes pretty deep. That is a great point because, you know, I have a new puppy, Roger Vader. He looks like Darth Vader. And you know, when he grabs stuff and he's throwing all around, I, what he's saying is, hey man, show me some attention. I need some attention, you know? And he's not doing it because he's angry, he's doing it because nobody has the, because, you know,

Starting point is 00:14:11 for some reason we decided to have twins and get a puppy. I don't know why that's a good idea, but we did it. And sometimes the puppy need some attention and the babies just, we gotta take care of the babies at that moment. And so I know when we're not showing him enough attention, he's just going nuts on stuff. So I totally agree with that. I totally agree that.

Starting point is 00:14:33 Where did this begin? Where did you start to realize you had? I believe in energies like you, I really do believe that? I'm thii- that everything that everything that everything that everything that everything that everything that everything that everything that that that that that that that that that that that that thiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they is they is they is they is they is they is they. they is they. they is they. they is they is they is they is they is they is they is thi, thi, they is thi, they is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiii. thii. they is not they'm not saying I'm psychic, but I just believe that everything is energy and everybody puts out energy and they put out their intentions. And I just have ability to sense stuff because I'll predict stuff to maybe Johnny or XG way early and then later on it comes out to be true. And it just pops into my head.

Starting point is 00:15:06 But where did you start to realize you had this ability? I know when did I get weird? Yeah, I do. I'm all about weird by the way. You are welcome to the land of Bisfit Toys. Welcome. Well, when I was young so I didn't really actually realize it till I was older what was actually happening when I was young, because when you're a child, you know, you're just in your experience.

Starting point is 00:15:31 Like, that's just how the world is. I could hear them. I could hear animals talking to me. I could see them. I could see animal spirits. And I just had an intuition like a a tholk, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thole, I the, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, what, th, what, th, the, th, th, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th lot of people who are connected to animals, right? I just had this like kind of knowing of like what they needed or I wasn't like, Ah, animals! I was more just like, hey, I see you. What's up, you know, and we'd have this whole little conversation. And yeah, I would always take care of animals and be with animals and it was just like, just kind of my own world I was in. And then when I got older, and I was like, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, kind, kind, th, kind, th, kind, kind, kind, th, kind, th, kind, kind, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, and be with animals and it was just like, just kind of my own world I was in. And then when I got older and I had my own health journey where I had some physical, I got diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

Starting point is 00:16:13 And yeah, when I was in my 20s, just a little minute ago. And I got to get real with myself, right? Like everybody's called to their place in the world, whatever you want to call it, their truth, their abilities in some way, and definitely through sickness was like the way that I did it. So I was like there's got to be more out here than like cutting me open and giving me therapy and doing all these things, which I also did. And so I went th journey to heal myself. I found so many things, a lot of things helped me. Some things were like, ah, take it or leave it. And then I found this meditation

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Starting point is 00:17:36 What was the first time you realized this and then who was the first time you told, and what was their reactiontime you told, who's the first person you told, and what was their reaction to that? So it's a two-part question from two different. Well I think I first remembered having that experience as a child. Which makes sense because would they say like when up until the age of seven our brains are in like a certain wave state, right? And then around seven or so it starts to shift, and so it makes sense that you kind of like access something we probably all did and then we like got trained out of us or something and then it came back because you worked on it yeah and a lot of spiritual you know teachings like channeling and stuff they say our channels are open until you're like about that age mostly

Starting point is 00:18:18 what do they say happens? It's like seven what what yeah 7, is it just a biological thing? Is it the food that we eat changes? Changing, like, calcifies our panel gland? Is it stuff like that? I think it's everything. Yeah, I think it's all the above. And I think it's also the mind activation. I think it's also the mindsets, the beliefs of the world,

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Starting point is 00:19:29 Now ladies, I have eight-month-old kids and I'm always like, am I pushing stuff even at that age? I mean, it's very innocent at this age, it's just make sure they don't hurt themselves or swallow anything that could cause harm. But like, do you guys think you liked playing with dolls or do you think someone gave you a doll and you just played with it? Like, which one do you think it is? I know I desperately wanted American Girls dolls like so so bad and they were so expensive and I really just wanted them so I could dress them and like pretend I was them and so I don't know if it was much that I cared about dolls or that I like wanted to pretend to have a life that I didn't have and I was going to do it through that.

Starting point is 00:20:14 Very interesting. Yeah, same for me. You love playing with dolls back then Johnny. Johnny, this is a chamber of true. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was thi. thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was much much much much much much much much much much much much much. I was much. I was much. I was much. I that I that I that I I I I I I that I I I I that I I I I that I that I I that I. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that I that's. thi. that I thi. that I thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. I that I that I that I that I chamber of truth. Please be the most Johnny you could be. The chamber of truth. It was Barbie for me, but yeah. It's just an interesting thing man. It's like how much is nurture? How much is nature? That's, I guess, will always be the discussion. Johnny, in the Mexican community, Johnny, that would not have been accepted you and a Barbie. No, my dad would have shown that would not have been accepted you in a Barbie. No, my dad would have done that as a chisemo dude. I used to pop the heads off of my sister. Oh so you were a serial killer. Serial Barbie Dab killer. Yeah, well it's all how much is nature, how much is nurture and how much is

Starting point is 00:20:56 marketing and advertising, you know. Yeah, that's all wow. That's true. I mean probably you wouldn't have known about those dolls right unless you were just being, their. their. Probably, their, their, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, probably, to, the, to, the, to, the, the, to, the, to, to, the, to, the, to, to, the, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.. the. the. the. the. the. the.verized by this. Yeah, no, I was getting like magazines for American girls or whatever it was, but I can say that my brother, my sister and I all played with all toys that we had and it wasn't gendered, like I played with G.I.J.J.s. Transformers and my brother would sometimes play with both of them, even though their parents are all like be whatever you want, do whatever you want, do whatever you want, they love trucks, they love loud things, they love dogs, they love mud, and it's like super gendered just, that's just what they want to do. And they don't watch TV or anything, you know, so it's like, it's like seems natural. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, I. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, like, it's, like, like, like, like, it's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th. It's, it's, th. It's, it's, th. It's, like, it's, like, like, like, like. So going back, because I have early memories of like outer body experiences, I, there's this thing that I remember as a kid, and I talk about it all the time on here, so I'm sure people are tired of hearing about it. But it was like, we used to have this hat and we put a truck under the hat and then we'd lift the hat up and the truck was gone. And I was like, dude, this is crazy, but I remember it like very vividly.

Starting point is 00:22:11 But it was just like in my hometown that, you know, all of crazy, you little kid. Little do they know that kid would grow up to be 47. Hey Sam, I don't think I've ever asked this, who owned that hat? Was it your hat? Do you remember who's hat? I think it was my dad's hat, but it was a hat given to my mom by my grandpa. It's just very interesting. But I remember it as sure as anything. I remember thinking, this is pretty amazing,

Starting point is 00:22:38 but then at that age you just move on. Yeah, it's awesome until you put your homework in there and then you're like, how do I explain this? The hat ain't my homework! So when you go back, what was the first memory you remember? The first memory I remember? I remember of in terms of this psychic ability. Sorry about that. I believe.

Starting point is 00:23:03 Um, I... I... Man, whoa, we're in the way back. I'm willing. I'm delighted. I, man, I wish I could give you this like super clear cut answer. First of all, I never really thought it was like something I was embarrassed to talk about or that I was weird or that whatever because it was just my experience. And then when I realized that it was something kind of different, I was like 20 something, actually more in my 30s. So, okay, I do remember one of the most, I'll share one of the most profound experiences where I was like, whoa, this is like, this is some stuff, you know, like this is actually really happening. I lived in Hawaii at the time and I was writing my bike, I'd like lost my wallet or whatever, I was retracing my steps, I couldn't find it, I was like, oh whatever, I'm going to go down the street. I've never been down before in my whole life. And I rode my bike down the street and I saw this car in the center of the road and this woman was like, it's like 1030 at night. This woman is like, it's like, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I. It's like, I's like, I'm a, thi. It's like, thi. It's like, tha. It's like, like, like, like, like, like, th.a. It's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's like flashing me down and there's this dog like in the middle of the road and I was like oh geez what's going on here. So I rolled up

Starting point is 00:24:09 and this lady comes running after me and she's like this dog's in the road and I can't get it and it won't come to me and I've been chasing it around la la la la she's just kind of hysterical and I was like all right I I just put my hand down, the dog walked right up. And I had a moment where I was like, do I pick this dog up? Do I get big? Do I get big? Do I care? I don't know. So I just decided, all right, I'll pick this dog up. Totally let me pick it up. It was blind. I can tell right away. Wow. This dog does not know what's going on. And I was talking to it to it to it to it to it to it like to it like to it like to it like to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the dog. I was the dog. the dog. I was the dog. I'm the dog. I'm the dog. I'm the the the dog. I'll pick this. I'll the dog. I'll the dog. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to me. I. I. I. I. I to me. I. I to. I was to me. I was th. I was th. I was tip. I was try. I was try. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm. I was try. I was try. I was try. I'm tell right away, like, this dog does not know what's going on. And I was talking to it like a human and wasn't really responding to me. So I just connected and started communicating with it through frequency and vibration on the soul level. This dog told me exactly what house it lived in. What? Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 00:25:02 I know. I was going like, is this seriously, am I going to get murdered in this house? Like, it's like drawing you in. What is going to happen? And so I was like, all right, so in Hawaii, I don't know if y'all been there before, but it's like, there's not a lot of front door action happening. You like go through our carport and there's like you know a kitchen outside and all the stuff then you get to the door and it was dark it was like 1030 and I did not know anything about anybody in this neighborhood and so I knocked on the door he told me it was down the street a little bit you told me exactly what the house looked like and then I want to ask that house it was like yeah that house you took me that's the the the the house I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was was was was was was was was was was was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the house was was was was the the the the the the the the house was was was was was the the house was was the was the was the was the was the was the can you take me there? Okay. So the lady in the car is then going like, how do you know a house that lives in?

Starting point is 00:25:47 And I'm like, oh, it just told me, you know. She's like, she's just like, first of all, this dog just ran over to me when she's been chasing it, right? And so she's like, okay, well, we'll wait for you. to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, to. I. I. I. I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the told, to me. to me. to me. to me, too. to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, too. told, told, told, told, told, to make sure you're okay, well watch your bike. I'm like, okay, well I don't know you either, so sounds good. And so I walked up, I was knocking on the door, I could hear someone was in there and then I kind of saw someone through the window on the side peek and be like who is knocking on my door. And I was like, I think I had your dog. And they were like, what? And they came to the door door the door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door the door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door the door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door the door. to to to to. to. to. I, I, I, I was, I was, I. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, I was, I was like, I was, I was, I was, th. I was, like, I was, like, I was, I was, like, I was, th. th. th. I was, I was, I was just kind of like took the dog and they're like, oh my gosh, where did you find it? And I was like, it was down there in the middle of the street. And he was like, how did you know that to bring, how did this was my dog? And I was like, how did this? How did this? How did this? How? How? How? How this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? this? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th. th. th. th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the dog? the dog? the dog? the dog? the dog? the dog? the dog? the dog? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the the the t. to? to. to. took? too? too? too? too? too? too. too. too. took? took'm deaf. It's amazing. You got her back. I'm so glad. So that's when I was like, okay, that legitimately just happened. Confirmation, yeah.

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Starting point is 00:29:12 something for someone who wants to ask their animal specific things, sometimes I just hear them when they run up to me like if you're at a park or something like that, I can just like, it's like they're speaking to me, not quite the same as you're speaking to me, but like, you know how you get an image or you imagine something or you get a premonition? It's like a voice of that. So I can hear them, but I just connect, I say dear the soul of this animal, I love you, honor, and appreciate you please Please tell me your message. So they either show me images, and sometimes they do all of these. They show me images, they give me like a knowing

Starting point is 00:29:50 of stuff I wouldn't know. And I guess that's a psychic part, I don't know. But for me, I feel like it's through my channels. And then they also use like a direct communication where they actually borrow my mouth and speak out words. What? Oh, so when they speak, is it in your voice? Do they have different voices? Is it like... That was exactly the question I was going to ask. That's great.

Starting point is 00:30:13 I twitch and time I'm trying to get out of the way of it I check out you know I don't want my brain to be like navigating this conversation because it's not what it's about. I don't know Lindsay doesn't sound like me it's pretty much sounds like me. It sounds like you but you have like a slightly different quality to your voice that you don't have any other time as far as I how do you know what? How do you? the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. It th. It th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi thi thi thi thooooo to thoooo to to thoo to thoooo to to to tho tho tho tho thotime. Hold on. How do you know this, Lindsay? What do you do it? Because Catherine, so Catherine and I met not that long ago. We have my boyfriend as her childhood friend and he hooked us up and she came on rogue ways and just started doing these readings for people in the audience like live and I was crying

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Starting point is 00:31:10 And that's how I was like, well, I'm a believer now. Because I'm a skeptic. You guys may know, like I don't really believe in all about. But then like, I think you did my chickens first actually. And like, the things that, my chickens are very weird and they're not normal chickens. And so the thing she was telling me, I was like, how do you know what a normal chicken is? Well, for example, they were showing her their blanket. their blanket, and I'm like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that, that, that, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. th. th. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. thin. th. th. th. th. thi. thi know that? There's no way she would know that and there was something else too

Starting point is 00:31:45 that I was like nobody would ever oh because they were asking to come back inside in the kitchen and I'm like nobody would let their chickens in the kitchen but we used to hang out with them in our kitchen. Oh and the bathtub they were showing me the bathtub yeah all kinds of things. Does the animal nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody nobody does does does does does does does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal does the animal have to be alive? Can you do a passed-away pet? Oh my God! I do this live three hours a week on my Facebook too. And I'm gonna start doing more, you know... You should put... Well I mean like that's a different conversation but you should pull those and put those out as episodes, man. I mean podcasts are like big deals, man. I mean, it's a wonderful

Starting point is 00:32:26 way it's amazing. It's just not like this, like everyone's typing in their stuff. Catherine, may I ask, when, is there a different quality? Yeah, sorry, Johnny, we can't see you. What am I doing? I'll get it back on just a second, my, is there a different quality to the communication of different animals? Like when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, yeah, yeah, yeah, when, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it, it, it, it, it's th a thing. Is there a different quality to the communication of different animals? Like when you're, or is it all seem like it's coming from the same source? Do you know what I mean? Like, or is like a chicken kind of like communicating with a more limited bandwidth, limited intelligence and I like a say a dog or something like that. Yeah. No, it's on the sole level so. Okay. It's all like, let's see, it's a complicated question. So yes, they are different, but it's actually different soul to soul, not species to species. So like, you know, if you believe in whatever you believe in, but say it's past lives

Starting point is 00:33:21 or frequency and vibration or whatever, right? So you have skills and experiences and animals have that too. They've been on their journey. They've experienced different things. They have different knowledge. They have different connections to people. Like Lindsay's going to connect to her chicken different than Sam would, you know, probably because it's her chicken. There's a reason it's her chicken, you know. So they have personalities and lots of times they do bring their 3D personality into the reading and the flow because that's how people are gonna connect to them. Can you do, can you do like fish and insects?

Starting point is 00:34:02 Does that don't have to be smart at all? Like at one. Like, is there any animals that you can't do? You're like, oh, this is a cockroach? You say that insects aren't smart. Well, that's true. I can really take it a beating to. My wording is off. But it's, uh, yes, I can. thin In insects.

Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, if you wanted to. Wow. It really makes you think, you're like, man, I don't know how connected to Earth they are and what they probably know about. Yeah, this is what makes me nervous. Like, my dog knows all my secrets. Like, uh, you gotta start talking and you just be like, do, okay, no. But then he watches this porn and that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thine, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thi thin, thi thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi do okay enough. Then he watches this porn and that porn. And it's just like really weird. I'm like, shut up! No, most of the time.

Starting point is 00:34:54 Most of the time, they're not gonna out you most of the time. They're like, here's serving you. So they just want you to connect to their love and they might have something to share with you. You. You. You, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. thi. thi.. So they just want you to connect to their love and they might have something to share with you. You know, like when a pet's about to pass away, that's like most of my clientele actually is because you want to know like how you can help them and you want to share and hear from them if they're comfortable or if you have children, like, you know, when you have your pet and it's your child and then you have babies and then all this other stuff starts to happen,

Starting point is 00:35:31 like they start to act up for your attention. And also, I just wanted to mention on that. I got a very clear message when you were talking about that, Sam, that it's also you need to check, you to, you to, you, you, you, you, and you, and you, and you to, and you to, and you to, and you to, and you to, when, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and you're, when, and to, like, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and it, and, and, and to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, when, when, when, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they..... And, to, to, they. And, to, to, they.A. to, they.a, to.a, to.a.a.a. to. to. to. to. to. to. they. And, they. And, they. And, to check out and play. Like, it's not just because he needs attention, it's because you need to like get real with it. I need to, yes, and I need it to light up and not be going all the time, right? Yeah. Okay, I know this is, this is off course, but XG, do you dream?

Starting point is 00:35:56 Do you dream in English or Spanish? That's a great question. I'm a great, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to th, to th, to th, to to th, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th... I th. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, been asked that. I don't know. I just dream. I would say English. Yeah, you just happen. Just now you're going to make me think when I'm in dreaming if I'm Spanish or English. Are your thoughts in Spanish or English? Yeah, like what English. I think English. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Because when I talk Spanish, I have to sit there and like be a translator in a fucking court. Yeah. That's like why I think what Catherine's doing kind of proves that everything has, like we have our languages and we have the way we divide everything, but on that sole level like there is no division and it's all just that message. So whatever, because yeah, even if the animal was raised in like a Chinese-speaking country or something, she's still going to be able to understand everything that it wants to communicate. Which is an interesting thing because there was a very funny meme out there and it was about

Starting point is 00:36:48 ghost hunters, right? And these ghost hunters went to this old German castle and they were speaking English to these ghosts who were from Germany and everyone was going, how are you talking this German ghost in English? But if we if we kind of compare what are you talking this chairman ghost in English? But if we if we kind of compare what we're talking right now is that would make sense, right? Like you're communicating with somebody through your abilities, so their message would come through an ability or a language in which you could understand, right? Is that kind of what we're talking about here, Catherine? Yeah, and I actually, when I first started really doing it intentionally, I would ask for

Starting point is 00:37:32 them to give it to me in English. But seriously, I mean, because language is such a 3D, it's so 3D. It's like, it's such a 3D thing. Because it's just frequency and vibration. Like, you know, and there's a thing, you know, everything, this is why I kind of personally believe is like soul language is a thing. Like everyone and everything speaks soul language. It can be vibration, it can be frequency. Your twins when they're like, I'm, ah, blah, blah, blah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:05 They're actually speaking their soul's language. And actually, I do a lot of language translation. I also was like a dula and a nanny for a long time, too. And you would talk about what babies were talking about? I could tr- I could ask for the. I know, is that so super helpful? I would love to know what my babies are saying. I sing to that and like, I sing and dance and do crazy stuff. And they laugh.

Starting point is 00:38:34 I wonder if they're laughing with me or at me right up there. They're like, our dad is so ridiculous. And it's such an interesting thing that's so... You should tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot tot to to to to to tot to to to to to to to to to to to to to to so... You should totally do a session. I would do a session for sure. I might have to do that because, you know, bring it at the studio, bring the pet at the studio right in front. I think it'd be a little so.

Starting point is 00:38:54 That we could do right now if anyone wants to hear a message from their pet. Oh, shit. Come here. Come here. Come here. The cool thing about this is it's done on the soul level too, right? No time, no space. So what do you need for me because my dog is right here. Come here, Pollyanna. May, uh, Catherine, I have one other question actually. Are these... Do you... Do the souls... and I don't know the terminology of the soul. So forgive me if I the wrong thing but are the the souls that are in these animals right now have they lived other lives and do those sometimes get confused like the wires

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Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, earlier, like a past life? Or maybe like, I mean, like there's this, you know, if you're a Tibetan Book of the Dead, people can come back in different forms based on how they live their last life and some people come come like like like like like like like like like like their like their their the dead, people can come back in different forms based on how they live their last life and some people come back as humans, maybe does anyone come back as an animal? You always think like, oh man this person was a horrible human being, they're gonna come back as a like a puffer fish or something like that, you know. I'm looking around for my dog because my dog made some mistakes and came back as a dog, but my dog was my partner in like seven lifetimes.

Starting point is 00:40:48 What? What? Amazing. That's fucking crazy. I were like, you know, it's like, so do you know in your past life were you a woman. So like, you know, it's like, so do you know in your past life were you a woman and he was a man or were you the man and the dog was the woman? Well, they're probably different. There are probably all kinds of combinations and maybe we weren't even on this planet. Oh, yeah, that's a love it. There we go. That's what we talk about.

Starting point is 00:41:26 So I do Akashik record readings, which Akashik record is like a way that people talk about the record of past lifetimes and different. I love that, man. I want to do a whole show on that as well. That would be, that is extraordinary. It's really awesome. But to tie this back this back this back this back this back tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's thi, that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that would be that would be that would be that would be that would be that would be that would that would that would be that would that would that would be that would that would that would that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thi. that is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to the. to to to the. to the. to to that is extraordinary. that is. that is extraordinary. that is. that is thatie this back into Johnny, what you were asking is, I kind of see it as the field of information that goes into every carnation, incarnations. So it's not so much a confusing thing, but it's like a connection.

Starting point is 00:41:58 So have you ever just done something and you're like, dang, I am so good at that? All the time. Your soul carries that. I have no one in a career. All the time. Your soul carries that information and knowledge and wisdom of how to do it because you probably did it before. Like I was a hairdresser for a long time and I just knew how to do it. Like, I mean, I got sick during school and everything, but I was like, I just did. I just knew how to do it. Well, I probably did it. Or you meet someone and you're like,

Starting point is 00:42:26 gosh, I love this person. I'm still like a person in my whole life. And you probably have a really good positive information in your soul about your experience with that other soul. You like recognize them. Or there's ones where you're like, I don't know, dude. I for sure. There's the the the the the the the the the the th. There's, th. There's, there's, th. There's, th. There's, th. There's, th. There's, th. There's, th. There's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th.. I's th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, th. I was, I was, I was, thin, thin, tho, tho, tho. I was, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I was, too. I was to tho. I was tho, there's ones where you're like, I don't know, dude, I just don't trust that guy, I don't know. Energy, yeah for sure. There's also talk about how like, like some of our technology is basically comes from people who were part of like past ancient civilizations and they just brought that

Starting point is 00:43:01 that knowledge from their past life. From building the pyramids? Stuff like that. I mean, who know? I mean, we had a people come on just recently tell us that the pyramids were just some. So I mean, who knows what it is? But yeah, I think that's very interesting. That's a great, yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:43:19 Do you encounter entities that lie? Do thethat lie? Do animals lie or are they pretty much honest, like straightforward? The way that I'm connecting to them and the purpose which I'm connecting to them, it's not beneficial for them to give me a lot of misleading information. The way that I'm connecting to them, it's not beneficial for them to give me a lot of misleading information. So I don't know if they do or don't, but on the sole level, the way that I'm connecting, and the, I guess purity of that connection, like, you know, the purity of that connection, is not, that's not really, sometimes they often tell me how old they are like right away. Like, I'll just get a number and see a number. What?

Starting point is 00:44:06 That's an right. And so then I'll go, oh how old's your dog? You know, and they'll be like eight and I'll, and they would have told me nine or they would have told me three and then I'd have to go, well how long have you had them? I'm like, okay, well that makes sense. So often they communicate with me like that. So I don't think it's like a lie, but also, I'm in space. In complete information possible.

Starting point is 00:44:29 Can you see? Yeah, the soul's not always super great at that. Can you? But sometimes I get false information. I mean, it's possible, right? I'm a human being. Well, no, no, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I. And, I. And, I, I, I, I, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. And, I'm a. And, I'm a. And, I'm a. And, I'm a. And, the. And, I'm a. And, I'm a. And,, you know, the flip-box or whatever. I got a quick question. Let's say you're at the park, and there's at a dog park, can you hear the other dogs communicating with each other talking shit on their owners or anything? That's a great guy. Like you're at the water cooler? Yeah, they're like, hey, fuck this guy. You didn't take that on a walk yesterday.

Starting point is 00:45:06 Like, why does that creepy lady always hang out at the book? That's their notebook. Um, I do hear them. I don't hear a lot of like bad mouthing and talking. Sometimes I hear, as soon as animals know that I can hear them. Also they know. That's like the Seinfeld episode when he could speak Vietnamese right and like he got or Korean because he went to the Korean War and she brought him there because she wanted to know what they

Starting point is 00:45:39 were saying about what you do to be to be that's so interesting. Polly you know it's right and now she just walked away. And honestly, sometimes I just hear them, but in terms of like, out of spiritual courtesy, unless I'm like asked to really like, ask them a detailed question or communicate about something, I kind of just let them communicate, right? I don't walk up to people and be like blah blah blah blah and they're like you're super can you turn it off like if you're walking down

Starting point is 00:46:11 the street like every dog house has a dog is it just like I like oh god let's stop it I don't feel that way about it it doesn't overwhelm me it doesn't overwhelm me. It's like, personally for me, when I can communicate like that, I feel like it's bringing in such a high vibration that it's like blessing me or whatever. Yes. Like it's, and it's not like, you know, if we made and it's not like you know if we made a

Starting point is 00:46:45 movie about it maybe it would be like that but it's like I hear them differently right it's not like someone talking in my ear necessarily and sometimes they're just showing me things or they're mostly just expressing joy and happiness and sometimes they'll be like- They're conscious of it in their life in their bodies now when they're doing it, when they're communicating with you, or can it be kind of a,

Starting point is 00:47:14 sort of a, like they're communicating with you at that higher frequency and not actually consciously aware of it in their bodies. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it can, together and happen at the same time, but yeah. Like I, once I, I got this random text message that was like, are you available to be a dog. Hold on dogs are text messages? That's what I thought to. And I was like, I need a new phone.

Starting point is 00:47:43 It's like a ghost converter. It's like those computers. Dog spelled Jack, stupid. So I don't know anyways how I got that message. I never advertised being that. And I was just starting to communicate with animals publicly, like making a thing, you know. And I hadn't really done that too much. And so anyways, I went to this house and this dog who like basically couldn't really walk even like. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thu or thu thu thu thu thu thu thu. thu. thu. their their their their their their their their their their their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thea, thea, thea. theau. theau theau theau theau theau theau theau theau. thea. thetoo much and so anyways I went to this house and this dog who like basically couldn't really walk even like throw himself onto my

Starting point is 00:48:09 feet and was like hey God you're here I've been waiting for you for so long like I need your help and I was just like whoa Do you feel a lot of pressure? You know I'm getting into helping animals transition. For what? Like, to leave earth. Oh wow. To die. And that can, for me, that's like a really, I'm feeling a little bit of pressure about

Starting point is 00:48:40 like, am I going to really be able to help them in the way that they need to be helped. I feel like, it's a responsibility, right? It is. And I'm learning. I'm not like, you know. Putting down animals is incredibly hard. My, we've had to put down two since I, you know, been living with Martha, we've had to put down two pets because they were just really sick. And it's incredibly hard. It is like you are, you know, when your parents, when a loved one and not, not comparing humans, animals, but you know, when a relative, you know, that's been suffering for a while passes on,

Starting point is 00:49:26 that's out of your hands, man. But when you have to make a decision whether this dog or this cat is going to live or die based on the pain, it's incredibly tough. It is a lot of weight on your soul. And it is a family member. It is a family, I don't understand how people can t is a family member. It is a family. I don't understand how people can treat animals anything other than as a family member.

Starting point is 00:49:50 Have people ask you that whether the animal wants to go? Yeah. Is that a common question? Are they ready? Yeah. I can't imagine how difficult that. Do they all deal with it the same way animals? I mean, are they pretty much? They know. I mean, are there some that are like, like, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:09 like humans, we deal with death in different ways. You know, some people are ready for it and some people are fighting till the end. Are animals that way too? Or are they got to be a pet. Because they could have been an animal in the wild. Yeah. Yeah. That's a different life. That's a great point. I mean like you know the human love, they get fed, they get a fireplace, they get to go on adventures, they have this companionship, they get to serve with their love which honestly on a spiritual level and I believe that raises them you know maybe they can come back as the their their th th th th th th th th th they they they they th th they they they th they th th they th th they th thi they they thi thi thi thi thi thi they thi they thi they can thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi thi thi thi thi th. thi th th th th th th thi they they they they they they they they they they they they they can they can they can they can they can they can they can thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi honestly on a spiritual level and I believe that raises them, you know, maybe they can come back as a human.

Starting point is 00:50:48 Maybe they can do something else. Wow. You know, so it's like because you're carrying that information and that virtue or whatever you want to call it through lifetime they did something good to become a pet because otherwise they'd be fighting for their life and their food in the wild. So, which is, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you know, you, you, you, you know, you, you know, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. And, you, th. And, you, you, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thin, thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. pet because otherwise they'd be fighting for their life and their food in the wild so which is you know is part of being an animal but they're usually is that seen as a punishment in a weird way is it like man those wild animals they were they were all Nazis in the past life or something like that I feel like it's like if you think about natural consequences like maybe I don't know what it would be like, but maybe when they were whatever life they had,

Starting point is 00:51:29 they didn't, they like took advantage of food prevalence in their life, they never worked for it and they just like, you know, didn't care about it all. And maybe now this is like how they learn how they're they're they're they're it. I don't know what Catherine thinks. Yeah, I mean, I think that's definitely a possibility. I think, you know, when you start thinking about that stuff, it's so like, there's school layers and it's so not a straightforward answer, which is perfect. But yeah, I think when you, if you got demoted from a higher, you know, a higher, whatever, like being a human, which some

Starting point is 00:52:06 people aren't going to agree with that progression. Everybody sees it different. I'm still figuring out what I feel about it. But like this one lifetime I saw, I started to say I just want to share it because it's so sweet it's going to make everyone go, ah, my dog, come here ping. We'll see if he comes and hangs out. There's some flies, like really excited flies, so he's like not anything to do with that. But I did a reading where once I was, actually someone else did it for me, but I was a tree and he was a flower at the bottom of the tree. Oh, ho-ho's this? Your dog? My dog was the flower. So you and your the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th thee th thee thee thee thi thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the is the is the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the is the. tree. Who is this? Your dog? The dog was the flower. So you and your dog have been close multiple lifetimes? Yeah, yeah. I think about that my babies. He came to me in such a special way, right? Like everyone's animal does. I mean, everybody has that story of like I just knew or

Starting point is 00:53:04 I wasn't sure and then I knew or they just came to me like I was at this healing center studying and this little puppy appeared and that's my dog and then I was like I'm not gonna I don't know how to communicate with animals people are I don't know what people are talking about because people are telling me like yo you need like start paying attention to this because you can really help a lot of people. And I'm like, yeah, I just kind of want to do something else. I get that, man. And, um, my dog. It's like, Adele right now doesn't want to sing anymore.

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Starting point is 00:54:05 Yeah, I had this amazing thing with him where he was, I had to leave him by the dog sitter because I left the island for on a vacation or whatever. And he started going to the bathroom, number two, dropping the deuce in the babysitter's house, it's just not his MO at that time at all. And she called me, she does what I do, and she's just like, you know, can you connect with him? And this is like early days of me discovering

Starting point is 00:54:30 and like realizing that, yeah, okay, fine. I'll get weird, I'll get weird and it's fine. So, yeah, I asked him why. And he said, well said, well, it's an animal thing is the first thing. They say that. They say that. He did. He said that. He said, exactly, that's a pretty weird.

Starting point is 00:54:54 It's an animal thing. Don't even worry about it. It's an animal thing. You're not really going to get it. In other words, like, don't try to understand it. Just listen. And I was like, okay, cool. And he said there's other animals that have been brought into the house. And I haven't been taken out to go to the bathroom with those animals. So we haven't done our animal thing. We haven't packed. We haven't like reorganized. Who's the boss? Yeah. Yeah. So I called I called the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their animal. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I was. th. th. I was. t. I was. t. I was. the. I was. the. the. the. I was. the. the. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I called her and I was like, are there new dogs in your house? Because she wasn't like an operational dog sitter. Like she did have like a big

Starting point is 00:55:30 operation. But she said, yeah, actually there are. And I said, are you taking, my dog's name is Mr. Ping? I said, are you taking Mr. Ping out by himself to go the bathroom? And she goes, yeah, and I was like, yeah, you got to take him out with the the the their........ And their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. their, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their operational, their operational, their, their, their, their, their operational, their, their, their, their operational, their, their operational, their, their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. too. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. tog out with other dogs and then he'll stop. And she did, wow. And I was like, that was super practical. Wow. That could have been weeks, right? Weeks of like him being stressed, me being stressed, them being stressed, poof. Wow. Wow.

Starting point is 00:56:00 I was like, all right, this is helpful. Now let me ask through a quick before we get in the the the the the other the other the other the other their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thoes, thi, thoes, thoes, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, tho. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow is helpful. Wow now let me ask through a quick before we get into a couple of things but how about zoos do you ever go to zoos and they're like I love it here or I hate it here? Yeah I hate. Okay so one of my most profound experiences at a zoo. Often the Tigers are very chatty with me but I went I lived in Australia for a little while and I went you like islands huh yeah I guess Hawaii Australia and Japan are the only other places outside of Colorado that I live yeah I'm like I am an island with all this so I went to the sanctuary is what they call them they don't call them zoos. And I met the koalas. And I like loved koalas since I was little. And this kind of ties back into our doll conversation.

Starting point is 00:56:52 Because I absolutely loved koalas. I had stuffed koala bears, you know, not real. And by the way, it's not koala bear. And if you say koala bear the Australians will correct you. What is it? They're marsupials so they're just koalas. I was like yeah I don't know why we call them koala bears. Oh just koala. Why do we call them koala bears? I didn't know. I'm like koala me crazy but I'm not koala me crazy but I'm not qualified. I'm not qualified.qualified. Oh, okay. Animals to ponds?

Starting point is 00:57:28 Are they just doing puns with you? No, they weren't. That's all my weirdness. So, they were like sharing this really deep wisdom with me and I was just sitting there looking at the coales like full on crime. And they were just like, they were just sharing the wisdom of at the koala's like full on crying. And they were just like, they were just sharing the wisdom of like the land

Starting point is 00:57:50 and how it was connected and what's happening and how they need help and, um, what kind of help? Get out of, give me out of here help. No, you know, they were okay. They were taking care of and the, because I asked them, like, do, do, are you, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, do, do, do, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, are, do, are, do, do, are, do, are, do, are the, do, are you, the, are the, are, are you, are, are, are, are, are you, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, the, are, are, do, are, do, do, do, do, do, do, No, you know, they were okay. They were taking care of and the, because I asked them like, are you okay with being where you are? And basically what they said was like this is the service that we're doing. So they still connect it to like, it's just their purpose just gets shifted. Right? So they, they get fed, they get they don't have this free life out in nature,

Starting point is 00:58:28 but they're cared for and they're serving a purpose which you know a lot of a lot of beliefs out there like every the purpose of everything is to serve, which is just to like be a purpose, right? Right, that you see that a lot in spirituality. You know, the purpose is to serve others, like, and take care of, be kind, show love, all that stuff. Like your table is, like your table's doing. Yeah, oh, nice table. Oh, loving table. So, the Tigers just share funny, funny things. These, the tigers like to the the the the the the to the to the the tiiiiiats, tiats, tia, th. th. th. tia, tia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, their, their, their,, these tigers like to talk to me and basically they just tell me like,

Starting point is 00:59:08 they're just happy to talk so it's not, it's not necessarily like, get me out of here. But they do say like, oh, well, there was this one seal and he was like, he was like, I think I was in Oakland or something. And I was like, what? And he's, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they's like, they, they's like, they's like, they're like, they're like, they's like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they just, they's like, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. There, they. There, they, they. There's like, their, their, their, their their their their their the their ty.e.e.e. their their their their their their they're like, their, their, their, their was like trying to get my attention and I forget where I was I think I was in Oakland or something and I was like what and he's like there's something in the water it's not supposed to be in here you need to tell somebody and I was like okay, and I was like okay and I was like looking to tell somebody and I was like okay and I was like looking around so that I didn't seem like this crazy ass person who was like, hey, this vehicle told me. So I finally found what he was, he was, no it's over there, you know, he showed, I said you gotta show me so I don't look crazy. It's like that star, did you see, you know the movie in Star Trek where Spock dives down with the whale and he's like, oh she's like, oh she's that's like, you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, oh, oh, oh, oh, you, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, through. That's so amazing. I would love to be with the whales. So what happened? I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:00:09 Oh, so it was just something. I don't know what it was. Some big piece of something someone had thrown trash. I thought it was like a dead body or something. Oh, man. Oh, man. They were like, they were so grateful. They're like, oh, thank you. You know, it was like kind of nobody really noticed. So that's just one kind of cool experience of them communicating. That's really cool.

Starting point is 01:00:31 I hate how we treat animals sometimes. So does it come through strongly? I'm sorry, over zoom as it does when you're in person. Colliana, come here. Yeah, it's on the soul level. And that's that's where that's where, so you can't, it's hard to say study because we think of studying as a certain thing. But this is part of my training and my studying of disability, right, to really master

Starting point is 01:00:57 this ability and hone in, which I have not mastered it. I'm always learning, always growing. I do lots of practice and different things I do every day to improve and to purify and to do all those things. Do you know another pet psychic or a pet communicator? Are you kind of... Is there a whole sub-like culture of like pet psychics? Is there a pet psychic comic where everybody goes? You guys have your own credit? I know I know it sounds like I'm trying to be fine by being serious. Is there a their a a their a their a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to p. to p. to puri. to purypify, like to puri. Do to puri. Do to puri. Do to puri. Dopify to puri. Dopify. Do to do to puri. Do to puri. Do to pur. Do to to pur. to pur. Do to pur. to pur. Do to p. to p. to p. to p. to p. to p. to purp. to p. to p. to p. to p. to p. to p. to p. their to p. to p. thi. to p. tooooooo. topi. topi. to p. topi. topi. to p. to p. to p. I know it sounds like I'm trying to be fine by being serious. Is there a whole like sub-world? Is there a sub-reddit of pet psychics too?

Starting point is 01:01:31 Where you guys just kind of get on there and share all the psychic news? And is there like a Chris Angel of like pet psychics where they're like, dude is an asshole and wears too much leather and now Chris has never I've never met Chris so I'm just I wouldn't know if it's a good guy or not. We all climb in the giant crystal. I don't know. I don't know that I'm really like in that community like when you go to like you know on what's it even called? Fairs that have these kind of things. I think there are definitely animal communicators. There definitely are pet psychics. I, I, I have, everyone does it the way that I do it. I've never met anyone who does it the way that I do it and I've been told by a lot of

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Starting point is 01:03:05 They self-teach themselves. And maybe their styles a little different than everybody else. I think it's like a natural ability. And I think that also I do have a community of practitioners and healers and people who communicate. And I do, I have a teacher that I learn from, many, I mean we have many teachers, but I have one specifically that I learn from who teaches like to communicate on the sole level.

Starting point is 01:03:31 And so in that way, but I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But it's not like that community is, they're not animal communicators. They're like, I don't even know what they call they, and th. They're not animal communicators. They're like, I don't even know what you call them. They come to me for that. A lot of them too. Oh, so there's like animal psychics, animal communicators. I guess, yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:52 Animal negotiators. Yeah. I come to animal detectives. They're probably out there too. What do the animals think of Caesar Milan, the dog whisper? Well they love him because he's helped so many of them. That's good all right. Have you been to a shelter? How bad is that? Or what's the vibe at a shelter? It's got to be hard, man. It's got to be hard. Yeah, you know, I was working with a no-kill shelter in Denver for a little while going in there and um, yeah, they just are trying to find their connection. You know, they're just trying to find

Starting point is 01:04:39 their connection. You know, they're we all kind of come in like, especially animals, I think they come in to like be of service to certain connections, right? So like my dog, there's a reason my dog is my dog. It's like, there's a reason you have, I know I didn't birth my dog, but there's a reason you have to be. I do understand it. Yeah, so I think they're, they're just, that's part part, that's part, that's part, that's, that's part, that's part, that's part, that's part, that's, that's, that's part, that's, that's, that's part, that's part, that's part, that's part, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, that's, their, their, their, their, the baby. I do understand that. Yeah, so I think they're just that's part of their journey too, not to use that overused word, but it is. It's just part of their thing and they just are in the moment. So, you know, some

Starting point is 01:05:14 of them they have been heard or they've been through trauma or different things. And the cool way about being able to connect to the animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to animals to to to to to to to to to to the animals the animals their their their their to their to their their their that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their oooooooooo, their their ovooooosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoosuoooo, to to the cool way about being able to connect to animals on the soul level is a lot of times, I'll just sit in meditation and connect to all the animals who need love and support and I'll just give it to them from that. Aw, you know. Oh, Lindsay. Oh, I love that. I hate animal. I hate, you know, I think they should ban the sale of animals on Craigslist. I think they just, I think that just sets up very people,

Starting point is 01:05:46 very, not bad people, traumatized people to allow traumatized things to happen to animals. It's like dirty energies. You're like breeding as many as you can for money and it's like gross. Well I just hate that like there's this notion that like dog fighting is in certain cultures and I go, that's like saying that I can be a racist because it's in my culture. And it's just like, it's not right man. It's like, I'm on team animal. Like I'm always on team animal. I think animals are in survival mode.

Starting point is 01:06:23 And when they hurt a human being, it's because they're trying to survive. And unless that human beings put in a bad situation, then I'm on team human when they're putting a situation like that. I don't like dog fighting. I think there should be very hard penalties for dog fighting. Because you are hurting dogs that are there to be love. That dog, you get that dog off of Craigslist and thinks it's going to go to a nice family and it's thrown in something as a bait dog and I think there's nothing lower than that. Now I understand Mike.

Starting point is 01:06:57 You're on team love Sam. I am on team. It's like Michael Vic now realized he's bad, but there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. toee. toeeeeeeee toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toeeeeeat toeeeeee. thi.'s bad, but there was a time that Michael Vic was doing some scumbag shit and I, you know, and he paid a hard price for it. Did he pay enough a price? I don't know, but he seems to be apologetic for what he does and doesn't want to participate in that behavior anymore. But the notion that something is cultural is just so stupid to me. But it's, Sam, you go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thua thua, thua, thua, thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. that's, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, and he, and he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, and he. thi, and he's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to me. Oh, but it's, but Sam, you go to Mexico and they still got rooster fighting. And that's, yeah, I think it's stupid. And I, super normal.

Starting point is 01:07:30 And they put, I get that. I get that, but that doesn't mean it's right. No, it's not. And not only is it, you know, I don't know if you guys know, but they raise razor razor, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the razor, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the razor, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, th, th.. And, I, I, I, I th. And, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I that's, I the. Yeah, I the. I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, where their spurs were, yeah, they have natural spurs that the the the Roosters do and they make them extra bloody when they cut each other and they put money on these roosters and they literally perform before like before it's like a concert the roosters fight and then there's a concert after it and everyone's super okay with it. The bullfighting they're trying to push down the bullfighting in bull fighting bull fighting bull fighting bull fighting bull fighting. But bull fighting. But it's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's bull fighting. It's. It's. It's. It's. the bull fighting. the bull fighting. they's. they're. they're. they're they're they're they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. It's. It's. It's. It's. they're. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. they. they. they. they. they're. they're they're they're they're they're the they're they're the the they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're trying to push down the bullfighting in Mexico but it's still going on its culture and it's you want to blame I mean Michael Vick he fucked up but it was in his culture like yeah I understand that but it's like that excuse is not a good excuse yeah I'm not yelling you actually I love you but I'm just saying like

Starting point is 01:08:19 because we saw that a lot with like Roy Jones was like he was was a dog fighter. He's like, it's in my culture. I go, that's the laziest, because racism is a cultural thing. Like, well, and you can say, like, it's in my culture. And also, I'm sorry, that was fucked up. Like, I'm not gonna do that any. Yeah, there's an accountability that gets lost when you're just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's in my culture. Yes, that's what I say. Now I know better. Communicate with this animal.

Starting point is 01:08:47 Yes. That's exactly what I was trying to say. He said communicate with this animal because he's an animal. Yeah. You're translating. You're translating what I was trying to say much better than I was right there. It's like you just you you you you just just just just just just just you just you just you just you just just you just you just just you just you just just you just you just just just you just you just just you just just just just you just you just just you just just just you just just you just just. that you just just. that that that that that that that that that there. It's like you just don't look at the probability of the situation. And you know, hunting is a very interesting thing to me because I believe it is this part of our nature in terms of like survival back in the day.

Starting point is 01:09:18 It was like you had to hunt for food and that is part of it. The trophy killing, I hate that fucking shit. I just think it's lazy. And everyone's like, well, they give the food to the villagers and all that stuff. And I'm like, well, that's fine. But you with a bazook from KFC, go the dead animal. That's my opinion.

Starting point is 01:09:37 In any way, like, honorable. You want to be honorable here's your sport from kfc go for the dead animal that's my opinion like to sit over this dead animal and be like look at my picture with me and my giant bazooka. Well and I think if we had more things where people were having their like rights of passage honored you know people wouldn't even want that or seek that because they'd have something else that was really profound for them where they were and they got to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience to experience have something else that was really profound for them where they were honored for who they were and they got to experience like a community be like yeah you rock and we don't

Starting point is 01:10:09 really do that we do that with like graduation and not everyone even has one so that's it like and then the next one is like we don't do that enough enough our practices of turning animals into food which from speaking to the animals, is a service that they offer. Plants do the same thing they offer their life. Interesting. It becomes different because of the consciousness, right? And because of when an animal knows they're going to die. And when they're being honored, like any indigenous culture would have done.

Starting point is 01:10:42 Yes, yes. And Lindsay and I have talked about this privately even before, like animals would surrender. Like, you know, they would just know that like, okay, this is what's happening. And, you know, like they do with each other in the wild. The whole communication that happens. Yeah, Saturday I'm just sitting there watching the nature channel, like geeked on. The animals are talking to each other. No, I'm just kidding. But you know, we're not, we're out of so far removed from that practice. And I'm part of that too, you know, I can't separate myself. You know, a lot of people are like, oh, I mean, I'm learning just

Starting point is 01:11:25 like everybody else, but this is something that we do need to start talking about and we do need to like, I don't know, there's a lot of separation between man and animal that's happening in the practices, the karmic practices of how we turn animals into food. I couldn't agree more. I don't know how you feed them. Go away. I don't know how you do it. Chicken. I'm like, you just threw an entire being in the garbage. That's, that's like, wow, when I started thinking of it,

Starting point is 01:11:56 that way I was like, whoa, I'm thinking of it. You know, it's like, how do you feed this many people? Humanely. I don't know how you do it. I think just more people could make food. Like if we all had gardens and raised like chickens and goats or whatever we wanted to, you know, in like a more localized way, I don't think it'd have to be these like mass produce, just awful slaughter.

Starting point is 01:12:16 It's so interesting. It's so interesting because the answers are right there. And it's just people can't do it. Like, I don't want to get political here because everybody could have their own thing, but it's amazing how many people I talk to in the Trump-Biden discussion that just want to vote for Biden because they want the chaos to stop. They want the energy, the negative energy that comes. And I'm like, really, to to to to to make to make to make to make to make to make the the the to make the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theymeauoanananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananterms., toea And I'm like, really, to make it stop, you just gotta stop watching the news.

Starting point is 01:12:47 You just gotta get off of social media, but they can't do that. So the easier thing is to get rid of the bad man. Now, anybody could be a pro-Biden, but they argue, like, we just got to get rid of the racist. I'm like, the other guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy rid of the racist. I'm like the other guy created a crime bill that locked up more black people than anybody and he used to brag about it.

Starting point is 01:13:09 And he said not all poor people are white or sorry. What did you say? It was like racist as well. And you have these people going, I know that I just want the bad man gone. And that's like, that's this like, that's that's th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, the the thi, th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the the the th. the to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. thi, thi. thi. the. theean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the. the. the.'s like, that's this weird kind of submission as well. And it's just like, so bringing it back to this, it's like when Lindsay's like, just, make your own food, it's like it's that simple. It's that simple, but people don't want that. They would rather complain about everything and stay in the system. Like, you know, it's like I, you know, I had a great discussion last night with a gentleman

Starting point is 01:13:45 who has got a new book coming out, Sam Talent, and he was talking, you know, we were talking about creating your own content to connect with people and they get off the Hollywood show business system. And you tell some people that they can't do it. They're so entrenched into the old system which is pitch shows to people who can't do what you do and hope they like you and give you money. And it's like no cut those people out go right to the to the peer to peer and your life will change and they just can't do it. And it's the same thing. And it's the same thing. It's about both of those things when they're disconnecting from media or disconnecting from the food production or whatever it is and like reconnecting the people around you. I mean, keep circled, I see it this way. We're just

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Starting point is 01:15:06 That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's great. It is saving the world. It is. It is so like the connection that we all need right now. And people, I'll tell you what, this, and this, but if it's gonna connect them and help them to their animal, they show up for in a way that they don't show up for anything else. And I feel like there's gonna be a tipping point around that, and that part of my responsibility as an animal communicator,

Starting point is 01:15:36 whatever you wanna call me, is to bridge that gap. Because there could be a time where we're going to be the animals in the wild are going to be cohabitating with us. It's already in Detroit bears have an empty house. Right? And so what choices are we going to be be able to make? What connection are we going to be able to have? So anytime I get to connect people to source love, which is just whatever it is to you, that love, right, that unconditional, unshakable love through their animals. I just, you know, someday maybe they'll... That will do whatever it is for them. I've seen, I've seen people's lives change from Catherine communicating with their pet with them.

Starting point is 01:16:23 Oh, like just, and it wasn't like that was the intention of like the person coming or, you know what I mean? It's not like, it just like happens because that, and I think it's because it's because of that. You're connecting more with that and it's like you're gonna just I love it. When people come to you, what, some people, it's like just, I feel like they want their own healing, but they just want to connect and know what their pet is thinking. Like, they're just craving that connection to that source love on a deeper level.

Starting point is 01:16:57 A lot of people come to me before their animals are passing away across the rainbow bridge, as people like to say. And if there's any behavioral issues or changes in behavior, because you know what, animals are, they communicate in frequency and vibration. That's it. Senses, frequency and vibration. So they're not off the hook in a way that we are sometimes where we can like be distracted by this and do this. They're, everything that's going on in humanity right now they're feeling on a very intense frequency and vibrational love. The only reason they can even deal with it is because

Starting point is 01:17:36 they are unconditional love in the moment. Like they're in like a meditative state. And unless there's an imbalance and they need to bring something back to balance, right? Like if they feel you're nervous, they'll do something. If they feel like someone's afraid, they might even be, they just gotta break that whatever to bring it back into balance.

Starting point is 01:17:56 That's like their job. So they're feeling all of this change in the world and all of these things these think, I don't know where I was going with that, but when humans want to just connect with their animal, I think there is a deep healing that happens there. And I'll just do even a message. And people will be like, that completely changed my connection. And just what comes through can be so profound because I'm not in charge of it, right? So it so th so th so th so th so I th so I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're th. they're th. th. th. th. thi. thi, I'm thi, I'm that, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm that's that's that's that's that. I that. I that. I that, I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that's that's th. I th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thin. that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm thin. I'm theeat, I'm thin. the an theat, I'm theat, I'm that, I'm be so profound because I'm not in charge of it, right? So it's like whatever they need, whatever nourishment they need is what's going to come through. And sometimes animals from the past, like animals who have passed away for their child or whatever, like pushing the other one out of the way and they're like, now me first.

Starting point is 01:18:39 Really? So like even like 30 years ago pets could be like what up dog? There was two very distinct times I remember that I was doing a reading for someone for their present animal and their childhood animal was like fuck out of way. No. And in a nice loving way you know but it did kind of like that like. How does that work with if are these with those would those animals have to have not moved on to other incarnations like the animals that are coming, or can they be in another incarnation and also coming through in that, in that conversation? My view of it is the latter. They can be in their carnation and be coming through.

Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah, because the soul is not actually confined by time or space or. That's cool. Um, so interesting. I still think you should do a reading for Sam. Yeah. Yeah. I need a reading on mine too. We always texting Sam.

Starting point is 01:19:38 I was like, Sam, we got to get this reading. Let's get this reading. Let's get this reading. I got Pollyanna right here. Pollyanna is right here. She's half Bessengi, half Thai Ridgeback. We think she's about 10 years old and she's gray with a, she has like a white tuxedo down the middle. I love her so much, you know, my relationship with with the woman I got with has somewhat changed recently and and I miss her very much. I don't get to see her as much as I used to and so I try to walk her whenever I can and she's everyone who sees Pollyanna always says that she has very emotional eyes.

Starting point is 01:20:26 Like very, very emotional eyes. He's a woman. So what happened was about 10 years, she's a female. When I saw, to about 10 years ago, about last July, me and her mom, right, we're in a big fight. And we just need to get a house. So we decided to go for a walk. We went down to this place called Largemont. And it's an area in LA, which is on Saturday Sundays, used to be very vibrant, you know, before

Starting point is 01:20:58 COVID. And they would have a little outdoor markets. And one area was, one area was an outdoor kennel. So I've been living with a buddy of mine for a very long time. We'd moved out to LA together. We lived in one place and we found this place and I really just wanted to. And I wanted a pet too because I hadn't had a dog for a very long time. So me and Dana were walking and there is this outdoor kennel and it was just nothing but chihuahuas and

Starting point is 01:21:36 but one dog was just sitting there very quietly and I'm like who is this dog? I didn't know what age she was. She looked a little older than everybody else, but I'm like, I gotta talk to this dog. And I'm like, I wanna talk to that dog. And Dana was like, what are you doing? We can't get to, I'm like, I'm talking this dog. And we just never parted ways. Was that eight, about eight years, about, about, about, about, about, about, about, tha, that, that, that, tha, tha, that, tha, tha, tha, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, th... But, th. But, th. But, th. But, th. th. But, th. th. th. th. th. th. But, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. thi. that, that, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, it's about 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 10 years ago and she's been wait so you said you think she's about 10 though right?

Starting point is 01:22:11 I think she's about 10 or 11 years old. She's maybe with just either you saw? She was she wasn't like a baby puppy but she was still like super young young and what happened was it I heard her name wrong so they said her name was Lilliana from Indiana because they found it way way way wait wait wait wait hold on you got the name of your dog wrong and that's how it got his name that's that's perfect well I I thought they said Pollyanna and they said Lilliana, but I heard Pollyanna so which is hilarious because I told my old therapist my dog's name Polly and she goes and he was like you named your dog Pollyanna which Pollyanna means you have like a positive outlook on everything. So they found Polly well her name was Lilliana.

Starting point is 01:23:04 And they found Polly, well her name was Lilliana. I called the Polly and they found her outside in and out eating out of the dumpster and we just grabbed her and like we literally just went and got all this stuff from Petco and here we are. So I haven't really been living in the, with them for a year. And I'm very sad about that because I lost my dog in this but I love her and she definitely loves her mom more and I understand that and but that's kind of where we're at. So do you have any so she showed me the number eight I haven't officially connected yet but she's already talking to me so I thought the book it means to you but so here's the deal too as we get into this if if if if if if if if if if I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. I thi thi the thi. the the the the the th. I've the th. I've the the the th th th the th th thi. I th th th. I th. I th th th th th th. I th th th th th th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I talking to me. So I thought that the fuck means to you. So here's the deal too as we get into this.

Starting point is 01:23:46 If I say something that you're like, just let it go because just connect with whatever comes forward that you connect with. Because what happens is weeks or days or months later, so it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll get these random texts like, oh, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange, yeah, yeah, I'll get these random texts like, oh, orange is the color of the truth. Or yeah, I did find that ball under the couch because they say that to me a lot of times.

Starting point is 01:24:14 Can you also tell them that my ball is stuck under the couch? That's great. That's the best. It is the best. It is the best. I was like, you know, seven-year-old me completely freaks out every single day. I'm so much. So is there something that you want to know or ask or? I want to know if she's mad at me because I'm not around as much that I used to be. And I just want her to know that I'm sorry that just this is how it all worked out and this is kind of life and I feel really bad because the woman I'm with now brought off her pets over and I have to work around her pets.

Starting point is 01:25:03 And I'm very thankful. I love her pets.the cat I learned that I love cat fluf is a wonderful cat Jack B is wonderful Roger Vader is wonderful I have no complaints but I do miss my puppy I miss Pollyanna very much and Polly knows always been very cool everyone's always always love Pollyanna and I just want to know if she's mad at me because I'm not around like I used to be and I wish I could be around more. Please say yes. Stop! Shut up Johnny I have feelings. This is like you know this is like my steel magnolias right now. Please stop. Please say she wants a divorce. Connection to their pet is a very, I've learned this. It's a very sacred thing actually not th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to th. th. th. th. to th. th. to th. th. thi I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not to to the thi. I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm to their I'm their. their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I I'm their. I I I I I'm the the the the the the th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm th. I I. I. I. I. I. I'm th. I. th. th. I'm not. th. th. th. I'm not. th. th. I'm not. th. th. th. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. the. The whole connection to their pet is a very, I've learned this. It's a very sacred thing actually.

Starting point is 01:25:47 Not to get all like whatever about it, but it is, it's just, it is, you know, it's a very special thing. So a couple things I'll just share with you. What I was going to share was, this is what's cool when I do like private sessions and stuff is because I can actually facilitate, and I'll, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, thi, thi, thi, I'm, thi, I'm, I'm, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi, thi, to, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, is, I, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, toe.e.e.a, is a.e.e.a, is, toe.a, toe.a, is, toe.a, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a I can actually facilitate, because what I'll do is activate, and I'll just do it silently about this time, but I'll activate the communication field and go into my condition. And what that does in like a private session, I would take this time, which we could totally do any time you want, which I think would be helpful actually is what I'm getting guidance about to like kind of also release yourself of this guilt, this guilt, this guilt, the guilt, I, I, I, I, the guilt, I, to, I, I, to, to, to, and, and, and, I, and, to, and, and, I, to, and, I, and, I'm, I'm, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and I'm, like, like, like, like, like, like, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, to, to, to, to, and, and, to, to, to, and, and, to, and, to, to, and, and, to, and, and, and, to, and, to, and, to, to, and, and, to, to, to, I, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi.e.e.e.a, to, thi.a, to, to, thi.a, thi.a, thi. And, to like kind of also release yourself of this guilt and everything too because it's probably we'll hear from her but it's probably just like completely unnecessary and blocking something else in your life that you would love to be open to,

Starting point is 01:26:32 and available for it probably come flooding in. So I'll do a whole thing about where I open up the space and then you can silently or out loud, share whatever you want to share and And on the sole level, there's just a different experience that happens because of this is the purpose that I'm here for, is to communicate with animals and to make this connection. So it just feels a little bit different. And I think this is where a lot of the transformation happens for people. And then even we can go into like a forgiveness practice with the soul of your animal because who knows also in past lifetimes this message of guilt could be activated because of also past lifetime you had with her or maybe she left you or maybe you know who who the heck knows so we got

Starting point is 01:27:14 we can kind of get into that also in a private session and then basically what I'll do now is I'm gonna take a minute to kind of get in my zone and it will happen pretty quickly and then I'll say I like to announce that the communication I'll either feel like it's coming or I'll just start seeing images and hearing stuff and I usually say the word how, H-O-H-A-O it's a Mandarin word it just means like perfect, like how, and then to-do, then it all comes out. It's just going to be whatever you need to hear. Don't be embarrassed if you cry. I will not be able to say. I cry all the time on this show,

Starting point is 01:27:56 so don't even worry about that. I've cried multiple times. I have so many people tell me like, you just make people cry. That's what you do. I've cried every time that I've seen Catherine do this, so I will cry. And I also might, because the love is coming through and it's like, whoa, I'm so. Johnny won't cry because he's dead on the inside. No, actually, I might actually, I'll turn the camera. If you see the camera go off, that's what's happening. I'm weeping. I the the the the the the the the the th th, I th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi. thi. thi. the. to to to to to toeeeeeea. toeea. toea. toeea. toea. toeea. toea. tea. thea. thea. the. No, actually, I might actually. I'll turn the camera. If you see the camera go off, that's what's happening. I'm weeping. Johnny, let the people see you cry. If I can cry, the XG can cry. Why can't you cry? He's been crying the whole time then. He's turned it off a couple times. That's right. Oh, good point. Johnny. I see your marshmallow filling. J. Johnny. the the the the the the the the the the the the marshmallow. I the the the marshmallow. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the the th. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. J. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I t. I t. S. I t. I t. S. S. S. I t. S. S. I t. S. t. S. t. S. I t. I t. S. I the. All right so is that cool can we roll like let's do it. So if you want to close your eyes sometimes it helps me but you I'm not gonna like get a magic hat or anything. Don't worry.

Starting point is 01:28:59 But you I'm not gonna like get a magic hat or anything. Don't worry. Okay. Oh, dearest, my beloved one, I love you with all of my heart. I know that we haven't been able to spend time together, but this is part of what we need to do. There is no separation between us. There is a place not far from here where we have seen what can truly happen when we face our fears and let go of the negativity through our attachments or to others and to how things should be. You and I are simply practicing and realizing this is not real. The separation. The truth is that our love serves a higher purpose.

Starting point is 01:30:50 So I'm just hearing her say like, that was really profound. Please, like, release your guilt. And she's showing me like a little yellow ducky. I don't know. Why? She's not telling me why. She just showed it. And these walks and talks that you used to have,

Starting point is 01:31:14 and that she's your princess. And I just see you spending time, like she's just sitting right at your face just looking at you. And it's like you're just absorbing. It's like you could feel what she was thinking. This is the type of connection you have with this dog. I do see a past life. I see a past life where she was your donkey. And you went on a lot of voyages together. I don't know where, but it's desertish. And also like a foresty, different trek, it was a different time. So those eyes, they're the same eyes, the same connection. And this was a lifetime where you were connected to your purpose and you were alone in your journey.

Starting point is 01:32:23 with your donkey. and you had to leave your family to go on this journey. Yeah. And she was there for you. And now you get to choose your family and she liberated from you and she liberated from you. And physically only, and she's okay with it. She's like, this is just part of the goes around, comes around. This is this lifetime they spend together. I see a purple flower with like a little yellow on the inside, it's very delicate flower. Maybe part of a hydrangea or something like that. And I just see her lying in the grass and looking at you and like talking to you without

Starting point is 01:33:14 talking to you. Does she, well, she's Bessenti, does she make a funny noise? Oh yeah. I can hear her noise and I'm like, what kind of noise, it almost sounds like a donkey. That's so funny. What kind of noise is that? And then I, my brain popped in and was like, she's the Bishengi. I love Bessengis.

Starting point is 01:33:38 Yeah, she's just like, no worries, man. Level playing field, we're all good. And she loves you. you know what you can connect to her any time. And is there like a certain cereal or something? I don't know she's just showing this like bowl of cereal that you would eat she would eat with you kind of. I love her. Yeah I can feel it. It's powerful. And the other thing I'm being shown is like an elephant, like a stuffed elephant. Stuffed elephant. Interesting. I wonder what that is. She has her toys. She has her toys. She loves her toys. She has all these little toys. She has all these little toys. She has all these little toys. Well, she saw, I saw a rubber ducky and an elephant. So maybe some time that. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I love. I love. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I has all these little toys. Well, she saw, I saw a rubber duckie and an elephant, so maybe sometimes that will make sense to you.

Starting point is 01:34:31 And if it doesn't, it's okay to. No, I'm sure it will. You might be connecting with my pet. I have an elephant. You might be connecting with my pet. I have an elephant. I don't know if that's possible. That's why I'm like, I have an elephant. Huh? You have a pet elephant? No, I had a stuffed animal. No, I had a. I had a, I had my dog, his favorite pet, his little little animal was a stuffed animal. It was a little elephant. So I don't know if that ever happens, but I was sitting there. I was like, bro, is she talking to me? Communicating with my dog maybe?

Starting point is 01:35:06 Sometimes it happens. The last message for you, Sam, is, she's showing me a starfish. I don't know what starfish is. Well, let's see, let me ask her. When you were a child, did you play a lot with starfish? I do remember a starfish as a kid. I'm just trying to think what it is.

Starting point is 01:35:30 So she's getting super excited. You don't have to think too hard. Just let it come to you when it comes to you, you know. It's okay. There's a connection. I'm writing all this dumb. rubber ducky, elephant, starfish. So the starfish, the point of the starfish, because I'm asking her why she's showing it to me, it's connecting to when you were probably between six and eight years old, maybe younger, and it's this connection you had to things, to beings to, and in this connection she's showing you and connecting you had to things to beans to and in this connection she's showing

Starting point is 01:36:05 you and connecting you through the connection you had a fish so whatever that is that's just coming forward and it will probably unfold for you I'm so I know it's all going to come together. You hit on a lot of great shit and... You wanna share if that resonated with you. Thank you, Pollyanna, thank you. Thank you. We love you. We just did a Pollyanna psychic reading and we loved it.

Starting point is 01:36:40 It's very cool. I thought, I love it man, so cool. I would like to do like live readings with you at some point over YouTube, something to do some road, maybe another swap cast with Lindsay and do a roadway swap cast and do some readings, you know, and I do really appreciate that because I've been very guilty that I haven't been hanging out my dog as much. And it's really like, kind of way down my soul.

Starting point is 01:37:12 Can we do something really quick? Yes. I don't know how much time we have. But can we all just choose an animal that we might feel like a little bit of that guilt around? Yes. Everybody, what do you mean by a guilt about what? I'm sorry? About not being being able to being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being able to being able to being able to being able to being able to being able to being able to being able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be to be able to be able to be to be to be a to be a to be to be. Yes. Anybody have an animal? Yes. What do you mean by guilt about what? I'm sorry? About not being able to be with him? I thought you have it. It doesn't have to be guilt, but any pet when you think about them that you feel like a little bit bad about? Like I feel guilty because when my very best friend dog died I didn't go with him to die. And I've always hated myself for it. See I'll I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi, the. I'll th. I'll th. I'm th. thi, what thi, what th. th. What, what th. What, what th. What, what th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'll to the. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to the to the to to the it See I this is I will tell you why this is challenging for me is because I come from a farm and we get through some animals on the farm

Starting point is 01:37:51 I mean they get killed by wild dogs and like hit by tractors is so I have a guilt for all of them Now were these your pets Johnny now they're some of them were some of them were my sister pets. We had they've I I I I I I have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have they've have their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, Johnny? Some of them were. Yeah, some of them were my sister's pets. We've had about four Jack Russells, I mean just a litany of throughout my childhood and adulthood. I'm going to guide you through this little thing. We're new quickly. And you can just say, when I lead to space to name your pet, just say all the animals on the farm. And then you might actually, the, yeah, they they they they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they're, they're they're they're, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were,, just say all the animals on the farm. And then you might actually.

Starting point is 01:38:26 Yeah, just say all of them, it's okay. Because they all have souls and they'll all, it's good because if you feel guilt around all of them, yeah. Yeah, so we're going to do this on a soul level. Do you feel like this is what you say? Please. Do you feel like this is what you say? Please. Please.

Starting point is 01:38:48 All right, so close your eyes, if you're comfortable with it. And just connect to you, if you have a single pet or just connect to your, Johnny just connect to your time on the farm. We'll just connect to their love and just imagine them in light and happy and just connect to the happiness you connect with them. And then you can repeat after me in your heart or out loud. It's totally up to you. We're gonna say dear the soul, heart, mind, and body. Dear soul, heart, mind, and body. Of?

Starting point is 01:39:27 Of. Say their name? Roger and Vader. Cash. I love you. I love you. I honor you. And I appreciate you.

Starting point is 01:39:38 And I appreciate you. And I appreciate you. And I appreciate you. Please come join me. Please come join me. For this forgiveness practice. This forgiveness practice. Please receive my love and gratitude. Receive my love and gratitude. Okay, now we're going to do this, you can this repeat. And we're going to include the ancestors because who knows how many lifetimes we spent with these animals, right? Yes. So we'll say dear and save the pet's name. Dear Roger Dater and Pollyanna. I deeply apologize. I deeply apologize for any hurt or harm. Any hurt or harm, any negativity.

Starting point is 01:40:27 Any negativity. My ancestors and I, my ancestors and I, created for you and your ancestors, created for you and your ancestors, anyway, in any lifetime. In any lifetime. I deeply apologize. In any life. I deeply apologize. I deeply apologize. Please forgive me. Please forgive me.

Starting point is 01:40:54 So just take a moment to receive that. Because we want to forgive us, nobody wants to be in this karmic web negatively. And then you say and I forgive you. And I forgive you. Your ancestors. Your ancestors. For any hurt or harm. Any hurt or harm. You created for me and my ancestors. In any way, any lifetime. Any lifetime. I forgive you unconditionally. I forgive you unconditionally. And I forgive myself.

Starting point is 01:41:35 And I forgive myself. All the mistakes that I've made. All the mistakes I've made. And if you have something you specifically want to need forgiveness for, just silently go there. And really know that the forgiveness is just wisdom and it's just, it's going to set, it's what sets us free. It's what allows us to continue. And it sets them free too. They don't, you don't wanna be tied negatively to these souls.

Starting point is 01:42:17 Okay, can I sing a song for you? Hell yeah. Okay, I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna sing Love Peace and Harm and then I'm going to sing my soul song, which we're talking about soul language before, and I'm going to give everybody, y'all want a blessing to help you? Yes. Okay. So as a practitioner, I have treasures and downloads and transmissions and all these things

Starting point is 01:42:40 that I turn on. Basically they're just fielts information, love, light, frequency, vibration, transform the negative messages. So just stay connected to your heart. Just let yourself go deep into this forgiveness and really let it go. And can't anybody listening is also participating in this if they are choosing to... Yes, please participate. Sorry I forgot people were to say. All right. Lula, Lula, Lully. Lula, la L'i.

Starting point is 01:43:17 Lula Lulah Lulah Lulah Lulah Lulah Lulah Lulah

Starting point is 01:43:40 Lulah Lulah I love my heart and soul. I love my heart and soul. I love all humanity. Because I really needed one hearts and souls together. Love, peace and harmony. Love, peace and harmony. That creates a positive energy field and harmony. That creates a positive energy field and now I'm going to give the blessing. Ready? Make a request, whatever you're ready to let go of, whatever you want between you and this animal.

Starting point is 01:44:30 And Johnny, if you have a specific animal come forward for you on the farm, you can focus on that. Or maybe forgive your parents or whatever comes up around that. Blessing starts. Yeah, yeah, how, how, which means homes perfect. Hey, ah, hey, yeah, oh, oh, oh. Oh, how, which means homes perfect. There we go. That was great. I really enjoyed that. Thank you, guys.

Starting point is 01:45:57 What a great episode this was. Thank you, Catherine O'Shea. Thank you, Lindsay Sherman. I appreciate you guys. Sherman, Charman, which one did I do? Charmin, thank you, Lindsay Charmine. I appreciate you. Yeah, I love it. One more time, please tell them where they can find you, Catherine.

Starting point is 01:46:19 You can go to Soul Light Pet Services. You can find me on YouTube. Soul Light Pet Services.org. You can find me on YouTube, Soul Light Pet Services. Facebook. No, Shea. Yes, that's where I go live. We'll set up a live one. I want to do it again.

Starting point is 01:46:37 I love this. This was a lot of fun. I would do this. The weirder, the better I'd say, man. Let's get weird. Lindsay, where can they find you? Rogueways.org is the main place to go, or YouTube, Rogue Ways, or any podcast app, Rogue Ways, see you there. Thank you, Lindsay, Sherman. This has been an excellent Catherine. Thank you so much for coming on and showing us what you do.

Starting point is 01:46:59 It was an excellent episode. had a great time and I look forward to doing it again with you ladies and thank you so much. Johnny Xavier again thank you guys so much. It's been a pleasure and I hope to see everybody tomorrow night or tonight depending when you listen to this at the comedy store Saturday night Saturday night October what is that? What is tomorrow? October 3rd. At 7 p.m. Pacific Standard time, either meet us at the kind store or watch on at YouTube.com slash Sam Tripoli. And enjoy, it should be a good time.

Starting point is 01:47:37 Thank you guys again. What a wonderful episode. It was, I was excited to do it and it did not disappoint. So we will do it again soon. Guys have a great the the the the the the the the the the the the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoomoomo thoomoomo tho thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I. I. I. th. th. th. I. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thooooo not disappoint. So we will do it again soon. Guys have a great weekend. I love you all so much and we will talk to you soon. Thank you very much. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mind.

Starting point is 01:47:54 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind.

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