Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #437: Free Energy With Foster Gamble

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome Thrive On's Foster Gamble to the show discuss he pursuit of understanding the universe and... how humanity as a whole can ascend to higher energy! Thank you for your support. Austin: April 9th-10- Romo Room https://www.tix.com/ticket-sales/theromoroom/6543/event/1211527 Phoenix AZ: April 22nd-23rd- The House of Comedy Az https://www.showclix.com/event/sam-tripoli-9999998ix6KDGCd Indianapolis: April 29th- May 1st- Helium Comedy Club https://indianapolis.heliumcomedy.com/events/44240 Please check out Foster Gamble's Wonderful Website: https://www.thriveon.com Please check out Sam Tripoli's new podcast: Cash Daddies with Sam Tripoli and Howie Dewey Youtube: Youtube.com/Samtripolicomedy Audio: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cash-daddies/id1551870411 Tin Foil Hat Social Media: Tin Foil Hat Podcast: Instagram: Instagram.com/TinFoilHatCast Sam Tripoli: Insta: @SamTripoli Twitter: @RoninSamTripoli XG: Twitter: twitter.com/xgmarksthespot Instagram: instagram.com/xgmarksthespot/ Podcast: George Perez Stories podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/geor…es/id1517740242 We Don't Smoke The Same: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt2REu6BgMyEtk1OLiXWzPQ Johnny Woodard: twitter: twitter.com/JohnnyWoodard instagram: instagram.com/johnnyawoodard Podcast: Broken Simulation podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/brok…li/id1506303807 Patreon: Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Patreon.com/BryanCallen Check out my new spiritual podcast called Zero on Rokfin: Rokfin.com/zero Tshirts: TinFoilHattshirts.com Coffee Cups: TinFoilHatswag.com SUBSCRIBE: https://bit.ly/2Sr53bT Please Check Out The New Union Of The Unwanted Podcast: The Union of The Unwanted is an Alt-Media round-table hangout show hosted by Ricky Varandas, Sam Tripoli, Midnight Mike, and Charlie Robinson. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2u1QUbVpglxRGA-NUSO3vA?view_as=subscriber FLOTE: https://flote.app/uotuw Instagram: https://instagram.com/tuotuw/ Thank you to our sponsors: Athleticgreens.com: Athleticgreens daily all-in-one superfood powder is your nutritional essential. It is by far the easiest and most delicious nutritional habit that you can add to your health routine today and empower you to take ownership of your health.Simply visit athleticgreens.com/TINFOIL and join health experts, athletes and health conscious go-getters around the world who make a daily commitment to their health every day. Again, simply visit athleticgreens.com/TINFOIL and get your FREE year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free travel packs today. CBDLion.com: With a wide variety of award winning CBD products. For all the Tin Foil Hat listeners goto CBDLion.com and type the word "Tinfoil" to 20% off for every order. Superspeciosa.com: If you’re feeling unwell, physically or mentally—try kratom. As of now, it’s still considered a legal alternative to controlled substances, and it’s safe.SUPER SPECIOSA offers the purest, highest quality, and highest strength kratom on the market.SUPER SPECIOSA’s kratom is backed by a money back guarantee. Go to GetSuperLeaf.com/SAM, promocode SAM for 20% off. JoinHoney.com: Honey is the FREE browser extension that scours the internet for promo codes and applies the best one it finds to your cart. Honey supports over 30,000 stores online. Get Honey for FREE at Join Honey dot com slash TINFOILHAT. That’s Join Honey dot com slash TINFOILHAT. ​IP... Frequently​ Podcast: If you are looking for a funny business podcast with solid business advice, 80’s music and headline news than check the IP... Frequently podcast. Subscribe to ​IP... Frequently​ and stay up-to-date on their weekly stream of episodes wherever you get your podcasts.. Lucy.Co: LUCY Nicotine is a company founded by CalTech scientists and former smokers looking for a better and cleaner nicotine alternative. Finally, tobacco alternatives that don’t suck! Lucy has created a nicotine gum with 4 milligrams of nicotine that comes in three flavors: Tin Foil Hat Listeners - Go to LUCY dot C O and use Promo Code TINFOIL to get 20% off all products, including gum or lozenges! MANSCAPED Refined Cologne: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code TINFOILHAT at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code TINFOILHAT Proactive: Right now is a great time to try Proactiv! For our podcast listeners, you can get a SPECIAL LIMITED TIME OFFER by going to Proactiv.com/SAM! Subscribe today and you will receive Proactiv’s Hydrating Duo as a FREE GIFT. That includes four Hydrogel Masks AND the Green Tea Moisturizer! Best of all, you get FREE SHIPPING! HelixSleep.com: Just go to Helix Sleep dot com slash tinfoil, take their two-minute sleep quiz, and they’ll match you to a customized mattress that will give you the best sleep of your life. Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at Helix Sleep dot com slash tinfoil.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:30 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just move my mind. Good morning swarm. And welcome. And welcome to ready to get your mind down? Good morning, Swarm! And welcome to Timfwell, Hi, you know I am, you know I'm here to do. I am here to.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yes, joy to me, my partner in crime, Xavier Guerrero. It's been a while since I did a good one. Yeah, it's been a while. A lot of people talking about we don't smoke the same, burning up the charts, literally, that's what they call joints and out charts. I made that up. Anyways, how is the show going? It's fucking good.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Okay. We're going to Rock Finn soon, so just wait, you guys all better show up there. So everybody that's looking at, yeah. So you're going, yeah. show and on the ones that twos are my good friend and yours Jay Nice Johnny Woodard. How's it going brother? Oh that energy is so great dude this is is this a running thing you're doing where you try to see how much energy you cannot put out. Give me that free energy Johnny. Just trying to smooth things out. Oh I didn't know smooth jazz Johnny. I love smooth jazz Johnny. I mean you can go harder. Yeah that's true. G t. G t. try. the th. the th. the th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the t. t. t. t. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. the to. the the tooooooooo. the the the th Johnny. I mean, you can go harder. Yeah, that's true, dude. Crystal, mass and heroin over there. I'm a straight guy, more ways than one.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh, okay. There we go. Johnny, don't judge me. Okay? Stop put me in a box, Johnny. Let me live my life, man. OK. You already put a hole in that box alone. Okay so it's a glory hole but be quiet. Listen Johnny what's going on? Broken Sim is on Rockin as well now plus our new show the Goats there. Yep and we just did we just released Broken Sim it's out there on
Starting point is 00:02:13 YouTube still on the Tim4Had channel if you don't check that out. Yeah and Patreon.com slash Broken Simulation you can get the bonus addition there to all kinds of stuff. Super excited. Listen guys, a lot of people still ask me, why'd you do? Where's tip-four hat? Why is it on YouTube? Yeah, all the time people. Man, why are you?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Why are you such a sellout, dude? I'm like, they got to you, huh? You haven't done a show in three months? they pay you not to post a YouTube zero I'm on my own website it is called Sam Tripoli dot com you can get all the episodes on it you can get to my premium content shows both Timfall Hat and and you can get zero on there okay you get all my dates like I have a day coming up April 9th and 10th I am in Austin at the Romo room okay myself Augustino Zoida will be there and then than the the 10th. I am in Austin at the Romo Room. Okay, myself, Augustino Zoida will be there. And then, two weeks after that, I believe, let me see what date that is.
Starting point is 00:03:13 April 22nd and 23rd. April 22nd, 23rd, 24th. I am at the House of Comedy in Arizona. And then the following week, I am in Indiana. That will be up on my website very soon as well. Get all the ticket, get all my tickets for my shows at Sam Tripoli.com. Guys, if you're always looking for more action, looking for more podcasts, all my podcast, whether it's my special, my investment show called Cash Daddies, that's available on at Sam Tripoli.com broken simulations available on Sam Tripoli.com punch drunks
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Starting point is 00:05:13 I know everyone's like the last couple. This episode is easily one of the best we've done. I think it's great. It's with with with with with with with foster. the the best. thost. thost. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I's. I's. th. I's. th. I's great. I's great. I's great. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm thoes. thiolk. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. thoes. thoes. the thoes. the the the thoes. the thoes. the the thoes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeee. to. to. about free energy man and the fight to get it to the people. Johnny, do I miss anything? No sir. Xavier, did I miss anything? We're rocking, let's go.
Starting point is 00:05:33 All right, I love you so much without you. We'd be just talking to herself. Enjoy the show. Enjoy the episode of Foster Gambling. Drink from the fountain of Nost. All right, let's get into it. Super excited to have this gentleman on. He is produced two amazing movies, Thrive One and Thrive Two. Please welcome Foster Gamble.
Starting point is 00:05:55 How are you, Foster? I'm doing great. Sam, thanks for having me on. It's honoring a privilege, Foster. For those who might not be familiar with you and your movement and what you're trying to do, could you please talk, tell our guest, our listeners, excuse me, a little bit about yourself. Sure. Well, I've spent most of my life trying to use the media to wake people up to what's really going on in the world. And then out of having a sufficiently accurate diagnosis to create the solutions to the literally lethal problems that we're facing.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I've used mostly documentary filmmaking, public presentation, and blogs and internet communications to try to accomplish that. So, thrive is about what you've discovered about how magical our world really is. And how, whether it is random chaos or intelligent design, there seems to be some kind of structure to the universe and there is consistent patterns to the universe which to me it says that there is intelligent design not necessarily in the way of like organized religion because I'm not going to put words in your mouth but and that this something there is organized to what the universe is.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It isn't just random chaos. Yeah, it seems as far as I can tell from a lifetime of research is that the universe is extremely well organized and the entire universe is intelligent. So it's not some, you know, white guy sitting on a cloud with a beard orchestrating everything. The universe itself is an expression of intelligence everywhere. All the, to the most little, minute things in the world, even when you hear about that one virus that jumps into a mouse that makes the mouse run into the cat, you're like, that just randomly happens.
Starting point is 00:08:03 It's just crazy to me. Where does your journey begin? Foster, where does your journey, where does this whole thing start with you? I know you saw Thrive too, you talk a little bit about your early days and how you, you know, you openly talk about how you were set to be part of this, I guess, elite class and how at some point something changed with you. Can you get into that a little bit before we get into all the amazing stuff that your docs talk about? Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I was born into, let's say, a very comfortable situation. My parents and their ancestors were part of the founding of the Procter and Gamble Company. So I was born into some inheritance from my grandparents that once I recognized that I had it, that it wasn't a huge amount, but it was enough that if I guarded it well, if I invested it well and contributed well, spend it well, that I realized that I could actually do what I wanted with my life. And I don't know of any greater privilege besides good health than being able to actually choose what you do every day.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So I was sent to all the, you know, the most elite schools and, you know, highly trained in this and that, and I was a natural leader. So I think that it was kind of assumed that I would go on to play a role, not necessarily in the company, but at least in the kind of East Coast Ivy League leadership of the corporate intelligence, you know, system that was, that's pretty much running the show. And I always found that stuff hugely claustrophobic. I mean, I couldn't stand. I didn't understand it well enough to know what was really going on, but it was just like somebody was choking me whenever I would be pressured into this or that.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And, you know, I was a was a standout in in schools and academically and in terms of student leadership and sports and that kind of stuff so I was recruited for you know all sorts of secret societies and corporations and so forth and fortunately and looking back on it I always said no and I didn't really know why except that I wasn, there wasn't what I was interested in. And as far as I could tell, if you really had to keep all this stuff secret, then there must be something nefarious going on.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Interesting. I know that throughout history, people have needed to keep esoteric secrets to themselves so that they weren't destroyed or co-opted by the powers that be. But that's a small percentage compared to what the secret societies seem to do. It's mostly perversions of sex money and power. And I'm just relieved that I never said yes and got caught into one of those things, because that's allowed me to stay entirely independent and do, you know, 40 years of research into what's really going on and what we can do about it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So that's kind of culturally my background. And then the, I think the other thing is important is that the, I had fabulous parents and great siblings and so I, I, the only major trauma in my childhood was when in sixth grade we had a a nuclear attack drill. Yes, it was explained to us that okay you know kind of like what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki well if that were to happen here because the you know the big bad bear of Russia is threatening us and so forth so so we're going to have a drill so they set off a siren teacher gets up in front of the class we're all gonna what's what's this and he says okay jump under your desk put your arms over your head so there I am quaking under my desk and realizing
Starting point is 00:11:57 okay if this is the best that adults have to protect me from an atomic bomb, I better get, I better start doing some of my own thinking. So I did. I literally, I just subconsciously dedicated the rest of my life to figuring out how can human beings successfully relate to energy, whether it's electricity, weaponry, or interpersonal communication. So that's what I did and I went on a fast track in physics and math and so forth
Starting point is 00:12:30 and until I got disillusioned with where that went off track. But anyway, I've stayed on that with my entire life and that's what led to the discoveries that are depicted in Thrive One as possibilities, you know, the unified field theory and free energy and cures for cancer and that type of thing. We demonstrated possibilities in Thrive One, but then what happened was after the movie came out, we were contacted by over a thousand inventors from all over the world. And my wife and I went different directions and spent pretty much five to six years vetting technologies worldwide. And what we found was so exciting that we'd finally bit the bullet and go,
Starting point is 00:13:12 okay, you know, despite the time and the stress and the money that it takes, we've got to, we've got to make a thrive too so that we can let people know that all the solutions that we're looking for are already existing on planet Earth right now....... th. th. th. th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, that's, that's, that's, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thateeat that that thi. that all the solutions that we're looking for are already existing on planet Earth right now. That's the good news. The bad news is they are being vigorously suppressed and blocked and hoarded by the same powers that be that you guys you know depict in many of your shows. So a lot to unpack a lot to unpack a couple things real quick. What was the reaction from those in your family to unpack there, a lot to unpack. A couple of things, real quick. What was the reaction from those in your family to you kind of wanting you to go in opposite direction? Were they okay with that? Because we do see that in places where, you know, people, whether it's a family business
Starting point is 00:13:59 or whatever, they want to go off on their own and maybe when you say your parents were wonderful. And you know, my point is like the their their their their their their their their their th is, th is, their th is, th. What was thi thi th. What was thi thi, th. What was tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their thoes, th. th. th. th. to to to to to th. to to to th. to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. to th. th. th. to that, that, that, that, that, that, tho. thooo. toe. thooooo. toe. toe. the. toe. toe. the. to to to go off on their own and and maybe when you say your parents were wonderful and you know my point is like were they okay with that? Well my mother definitely was. She was just always supportive of whatever I did and my father respected me and he knew I wasn't kidding around with what I was doing and I basically was researching everything all that you know the the sciences and consciousness and you know, on and on. They're literally every sector and he sat me down at one point and he said, he said, Foster, I'm concerned that maybe you're dabbling, you know, when you're going to get serious? And I said, Dad, I can guarantee you that I'm not
Starting point is 00:14:40 dabbling. It's just that my specialty is putting together the pieces of the puzzle. So I need to figure out how this, this is all working so I can figure out what's the best thing that I can do about it. So they were, they were actually supportive. Once, during the making of Thrive 1, which took eight years, basically we just told people, you know, we're just working on a documentary about solutions to the problems we're facing. So they're, okay, cool, and they would leave us alone because, you know, we were going into the same stuff you guys do, all into the secret societies and the Illuminati and suppression of all
Starting point is 00:15:17 this stuff and so forth. So once it came out, that created bigger waves throughout my clan. Yeah I would say probably maybe 20% of them were very supportive when it came out. You know, another 50% were, didn't really care one way or the other, they didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it. And the last 30% were pissed off, they were scared to death, I would walk into a room and a bunch of them would get up and leave. Oh my goodness, dude. That is crazy. That is crazy. I... And that remains to this day, you know, one by one people are waking up, but there's still a lot of resistance to, you know, Foster must have lost it. He must have drank it. He must
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Starting point is 00:18:26 and effective. So do this. Simply visit Athletic Greens.com slash timfoil and join health experts, athletes, health conscious, go-getters, and podcasters who love spring-fling around the world to make your daily commitment to your health every day. Okay, again, that's simply visit at flightgreens.com slash tinfoil and get your free supply of vitamin D and five free travel packets. Foster, you talk about you went into science and math and stuff like that and that that area. We on the show talk a lot about in this and I would love to get your opinion on this. The laws of physics I've always felt were created to box us th us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us us to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to to the to to to to to to to to the to to the the the the to to to to to the the the the the the the the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free th th th th th th to th to to the thi to to thi to to thi thi to thi to thi to to the the to tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. to to tipe. to to to thri thri the thri th and I would love to get your opinion on this. The laws of physics I've always felt were created to box us into a certain reality and that this the scientific method, the laws of physics were to put us in this
Starting point is 00:19:16 kind of a box and and to say this is your world, this is your universe, this is how it operates. Anything that falls outside of this, it doesn't exist, it's not real. And to me the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, the stuff, this, this, this, this, this, this stuff, this stuff, this is, this is th, thi, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thus, thi, thiolus, thiolus, thiolus, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, the, to, thoooooooooooo, thi, thi, thi, thi, that falls outside of this, it doesn't exist. It's not real. And to me, the stuff, and it's kind of what you're talking about in your dock, the stuff outside that box is the magic that makes the universe so special and where we live so special. Any your thoughts on that? Because it's so hard to talk to people who are in academia going, I think the laws of physics may be doing a little bit more damage than maybe good. What are your thoughts on that? Well it's a really important topic. I'm glad you guys are going into it because that's one the reasons why I quit physics. I didn't know exactly what was gone on but I felt like I wasn't
Starting point is 00:20:04 being told the whole truth. And when I would ask things, they would say things like, well, the universe is 15 billion light years across. And I would say, my physics instructor, I said, okay, that's great, that's big. So what's it floating in? And he would get mad at me? the scope of science. You know, we can't measure it so we can't talk about it. So that happened to me a lot,
Starting point is 00:20:27 but the the breakthroughs that I have had in finding successful inventors, over 90% of them, never had high-level formal education. And that's the other aspect is that they've remained tuned into their intuition. So they've actually been in relationship with what, you know, call it cosmic consciousness, call it the Akashik records, whatever you want to refer to the conscious field as the best inventors are constantly downloading from that field. Yes. And then they've translated it into the words of traditional science, but it's still, even conceptually, it goes beyond the notion of
Starting point is 00:21:11 traditional science. And you know, I've now seen, I believe, seven working free energy devices, and none of them follow the traditional laws of physics, and they all mimic in some form or other this terroidal energy pattern, this donut-shaped vortex that we refer to in both movies. And one more piece I would add to that is that Maxwell's equations that are taught to engineers in advanced science, they were actually literally curtailed uh... by the guy named heavyside i think under the direction of jayp morgan
Starting point is 00:21:51 who was test was you know major financier but when tesle was erecting the warden cliff tower which was going to be in free energy everywhere on the planet uh... the j p morgan pulled the funding and shut him down because Morgan was getting a lot of his money from his copper mines and that was going to obsolete all these copper wires that they were using to transmit electricity because it was going to be done wilderly. So on the academic level, on the scientific level, on the political and economic level, the true knowledge has been suppressed for over a hundred years, but now it is coming out
Starting point is 00:22:33 and that's what Thrive 1 and 2 are about. Well I couldn't agree more, this is like, you know, such a blessing to have you on. This is really what this shows always about, like, like spiritual skepticism of the official narrative, looking a little deeper into why would people do this? You know, I have people in my life that can't believe, you know, anyone could be this organized. And I go, well, you know, the truth is it's not an overnight thing. It's not like put together and control those science. It's like small increments over time.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You know, taking out this administrator, putting in your own administrator and nobody sees it. And no hurry, if it doesn't happen in my life, it might happen in my kid's life, it doesn't happen to his life, happens in his grandson's life or granddaughter's life. And it's small increments to not let us know how important we are. And, know this show is almost five years old, December will be five years. That's a little ways away, but you know one of the... Congratulations, that's huge. I mean for a podcast it is and thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And one of the biggest shows we did, we had a guy, come on their own. the earth having a grid of all, and where all these pyramids were on these power grids and that there's a chance of these pyramids involved free energy and and when you start talking about free energy and you start getting into Tesla you start wondering like are these powers that be going to allow this to happen can can humanity as a whole ascend above from a 3D above a 4D to a 5D because a 4D is kind of stopping us from ascending and that's kind of a quick take on that but your thoughts on that because you are talking to so many amazing people and I kind of want to get into that
Starting point is 00:24:19 but the thoughts are can we as a humanity, can we as a humanity, the question is can we as a humanity overcome this small, powerful group of people that want to suppress free energy and what free energy does for humanity? Yeah, well, let me take that in two parts. First of all, for anyone who has been to the Giza Plateau in Egypt, there is no question that there have been more advanced civilizations than our own on this planet. Not for quite a while, but there are 200 ton blocks. And there is nothing in our technology today, even close to be able to lift that thing,
Starting point is 00:25:04 much less, you know, transport it a hundred miles, carve close to be able to lift that thing, much less, you know, transport it a hundred miles, carve it to, you know, within a centimeter's accuracy and put it in place, sometimes underground. And that's one of, you know, a hundred different pieces of evidence that there were more advanced cultures. And my study of ancient cultures is that they had a lot of advanced technologies, but that there were more advanced cultures. And my study of ancient cultures is that they had a lot of advanced technologies, but that they most likely got out of hand and ended up destroying them themselves,
Starting point is 00:25:33 similar to what we're on the verge of right now. And that's our big challenge. I think there's no more exciting time in history, I think to be alive. The entire planet has never been threatened at one time before. Now we got nuclear weapons, biological weapons, chem trails, the whole thing. And now, you know, the potential for a true world war or the quiet war that is taking over our bodies through AI and the vaccines and all that kind of stuff. So there's never been a more dangerous moment for all of humanity, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:26:11 we've never been interlinked by the internet before. We've never been as aware as we are of what's really going on. So that's the big question, the one you ask. Can we actually win, particularly, can we win this war as an info war so we don't. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the big question, the one you ask. Can we actually win, particularly, can we win this war as an info war so we don't have to fight it as a physical war? And the result, nobody can know the answer to that. A lot of people who explore it a lot get very pessimistic,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and I certainly had times like that. Yeah, I'm with you understand that. But at the moment, I'm actually actually thake thake thake thuke times like that. Yeah, I'm with you. I understand that. But at the moment, I'm actually extremely optimistic and only because I'm so well informed of both the bad news and the good news that's going on. And we say in Thrive 1, you know, we outnumber the perpetrators of the global domination agenda by over a million to one. Yes. So if people wake up, you know, there's no way that they can control that many people.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And secondly, the mainstream media has people believing that these people, that these perpetrators have boundless control, but they don't. They're the mainstream media. I mean, you know, guys like you and Joee rogan and and alex jones and so forth you guys have followings bigger than cn n cn n n is down to about one point five million viewers for an entire day and they're considered the mainstream
Starting point is 00:27:38 the mainstream is no longer the mainstream truth media is the mainstream but we still the the perpetrators the mainstream. Truth media is the mainstream, but we still, the perpetrators, the global cult, as Catherine Nostin-Fitts calls, they still have control of the major institutions, of government and corporations and military. So it's a matter of waking enough people up to obsolete these folks, create the viable alternatives, just like we're doing in media and organic agriculture and cryptocurrency, create natural win-win solutions, but then also be ready to protect them because they will be attacked in attempts to suppress them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I couldn't agree more. I know there's doom and gloom and there's a lot of people out there. We've had guests on recently that have some doom and gloom. But I believe that so much of what is going on is just a siop to make you think you are hopeless. And the truth of the matter is, is like, they've pushed this, you know, this passport and it has their, and it has been their, and it's been their, and it's been their, and it's been their, their, their, their, the truth of the matter is, is like, they've pushed this, you know, this passport and it has been rejected completely. And I, like, yes, I get that there's people rushing get the vaccine. I understand that. But I also think there's a lot of people that are pushing back on it very hard.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't want to get too much into that because I want to stay on your positive message and get away from all that stuff. You know, free energy, let's talk about that. What is free energy? I don't think people understand what the actual concept of what free energy actually is. When you talk free energy, what are you talking about, sir? Okay, great. Yeah,, free energy is like free air. It free really means that it's everywhere. If you know how, if you've got a nose,
Starting point is 00:29:32 you can access air. If you have the right device, you can access power, you can access electricity anywhere. Not only anywhere on planet Earth, but anywhere in the cosmos. You know, if we're being visited by extraterrestrials and the evidence is absolutely overwhelming, well then how the heck did they get there? Did they get here? They're not burning Exxon along the way.
Starting point is 00:29:57 You know, they're not taking 30,000 years to come here from the nearest star or something like that. So they've got alternative gravitational systems which alter th, time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time their time time their time their their time their their time their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their their their. their their their their their their their their their. te. te, teat, teat, te, te, tea.ea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. the nearest star or something like that. So they've got alternative propulsion, they've got alternative gravitational systems which alter time and space. So the key to all of that is that the physicists have taken to calling the unified field the vacuum. Well, guess what? It's not a vacuum.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's the fundamental lie of physics right now. It's a plenum. It's full of essentially infinite energy at every point in space. Are you talking about electric universe basically? Is that what we're getting into here? That the universe is one of the organizations that's doing a good job of describing that it has an electrical component to it that is everywhere? I love this. This is great. I'm into this. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th, it. It's th, it. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full th, it's full th th th th th. It's full th. It's full. It's full thi th full th. It's full. It's full. It's full. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. It's full th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the thi. the the thi. the the the the thi. the the the thi. the that it has an electrical component to it that is everywhere. I love this. This is great. I'm into this man because you know to be honest with you I'm a dimensions guy but maybe dimensions could easily be electricity in different levels electricity. You got it. Sam that's it
Starting point is 00:31:01 right there. The best physicists that I know have no interest in the concept of dimensions as if somehow long is different than high and that's different than deep you know it that doesn't make any sense that's a construct on the blackboard of your seventh grade math class what is real is that it's all energy and it's all frequencies and we as human beings have you know eyes, eyes and ears and nose and touch and that's all designed for us to interact with the physical frequencies in our particular domain of consciousness and of existence.
Starting point is 00:31:40 But that's a tiny little, it's a hair on a vast spectrum of electromagnetic vibration. So when an extraterrestrial ship appears and then it blinks out, and all of a sudden is on the opposite horizon, it didn't go that fast, you know, in traditional terms, it literally shifted to a different frequency, and then all of a sudden it was over there. Because in those different frequencies, you know, it's like a dog whistle. You know, we can't hear a dog whistle, but a dog can. And so there are essentially infinite frequencies
Starting point is 00:32:16 that you can think on, that you can travel on, that you can access for power. So as I said, the first thing to know about free energy is that the space is full of it everywhere. And for anybody who doubts that, think of the hydrogen bomb. You know, you split one hydrogen atom and look what happens. There's a lot of energy in a single hydrogen atom. So the key is that the current access to energy is through fission, fusion, combustion, all of that type. It's all treating the universe violently in order to get its energy out. It's trying to steal the energy of the universe by breaking it up.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And you know, it's worked. It has worked to a great extent to create the Industrial Revolution out of which we get to have computers and have this this conversation. But it's really dangerous to get violent with mother nature. And so we see the pollution, we see the nuclear weapons, we see the potential of nuclear waste and all that stuff. So the, the, once we see the nuclear weapons, we see the potential of nuclear waste and all that stuff. So once you realize that we're accessing it violently, in order to avoid that risk and all the wars that go with it, the next key is that we need to figure out harmonious access to
Starting point is 00:33:42 the infinite energy of the universe. And Tesla himself said, he said, it's a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature. So Tesla is probably the greatest inventor of all time. What the heck did he mean by the wheelwork of nature? Well I believe that he was on to that the tourist is a tourist is a the tourist. the the the the the the the the the the the tourist. tourist. He tourist. He tourist. He tourist. He tourist. He tourist. He tourist, he tourist, he the the the the the the th. He out out out out, he today, he thor out, he th. He out, he time. What the heck did he mean by the wheel work of nature? Well, I believe that he was on to that the tourist is a wheel. And that, you know, we, I don't know if you've seen that section of Thrive 2 yet, but we do what we call the scaling journey, where we take the viewer on a journey from the subplunk level, the smallest that we can measure, all the way out through atoms and molecules and cells
Starting point is 00:34:28 to human beings, planets, stars, solar systems, and then ultimately the galactic clusters and the universe itself. And guess what? It's the same shape at every single scale. It's a wheel. It's this vortex of energy. So I think this is what he meant. And when I refer to all my the molecules molecules molecules molecules molecules the the the the the the the the the the molecules theoleoleole-tom-tom-tom-tom-tom molecules the the the th th to to the-tom molecules to to to the-a-s and molecules and molecules and molecules and molecules and molecules theoleoleoleole, and molecules and molecules and molecules and molecules and molecules thoes and molecules thoes and molecules thoes and molecules thoes and molecules thoes and molecules thoes and molecules theals and molecules theals and molecules thi molecules theals and molecules the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this vortex of energy. So I think this is what he meant. And when I refer to all my free energy inventors, they all have a different way of accessing
Starting point is 00:34:50 it. Through music, through radio waves, through electrons moving through coils, through natural earth elements being cooked to off-gas hydrogen. There's lots of different techniques. But the one thing that's in common to all of them is they all mimic the the free the free the the the the the the the the the the free the the the the free the free the the free the free the free the free the free the free the free the free to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the free free to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. And. And. And. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their trie. their trie. their trie. their their the but the one thing that's in common to all of them is they all mimic the terroidal rotation. And then it's a matter of you got to get the right geometry, the right materials, the right frequency, the right temperature, the right alkalinity of some. Once you get all that right once you honor nature and dance with it, all of a sudden it gives you everything you're asking for as long as you don't violate it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Basically what we're talking about here is living in harmony with nature and not. That's the key to the whole thing. And we say in Thrive too that, you know, we were blessed a long-time colleague of mine for over 20 years is now Sim Haramian. I don't know if you've had him on his thi th th thing thing thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. you're thi. you're you're you're you're you're asking you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you you you you you you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi., you know, we were blessed to a longtime colleague of mine for over 20 years is, now, Sim Haramene. I don't know if you've had him on his show yet. No, on your show, but the guy is, for now, I think he's the leading cosmologist on the planet right now and, you know, dropped out of school in seventh grade. But he, he allowed us to reveal in thrive, thrive, thrive, thrive, thrive, to, to, to, thrive, to, to, the, to, to, to, the, to, to, thrive, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to reveal in Thrive 2 the unified field theory that he has just completed.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He's got an abstract on the internet. The paper is probably coming out within the next few weeks, but he allowed us to basically show the fundamental elements of it in Thrive 2. So that's what Einstein was trying to accomplish his entire life and didn't get it. And Einstein said, if anybody ever gets this, it's because they'll understand geometry. He said, I'm a mathematician, not a geometer. Well, Nassim and I and a team that we've worked with for a long time are spatial geometers. And so the key to understanding the unified field and therefore being able to access it for energy, for healing, for consciousness, expansion.
Starting point is 00:36:47 The key is geometry and resonance. So it all comes down to music, which is really wonderful. Oh, okay, that's so interesting. First of all, when you get into this design that you're talking about, can you can elaborate on that for those who may not have seen your movie so they understand what you're talking about this kind of I guess it's like you're saying a wheel in a weird way? Yeah I've got one right here. This is an old Chinese box but they were on to it as well. It's basically a donut. You know it's a it's a ring with a hole in the middle and And the key to that, there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:37:25 who have been trying to work on free energy for over 100 years. And most of the devices are either cubes or their spheres. And as they start to generate energy, they either freeze or they fry. Because they're not balancing the temperature and the pressure inside and outside. So they either implode or explode. It it it it it can it can it can it can it can't it can't it can't. the the pressure inside and outside. So they either implode or explode. And it can be very dangerous. But the key to this Taurus is that it's open in the middle. And therefore, it can access the entire universe
Starting point is 00:37:56 and at the same time be a distinct entity within the field of energy. And that's the key. Because the second law of thermodynamics basically says that field of energy. And that's the key, because the second law of thermodynamics basically says that you can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it. And that's accurate, but it's misinterpreted by physicists. Because if you build a box and try to get more energy out of the box than you put in, yeah, you're not going to succeed.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But if you build a Taurus, which is open to accessing the unified field itself, then it's like a super solar panel. You know, solar panel is accessing infinite energy as long as the sun is shining, because it's accessing the field. And that's what these devices do. They, in the same way, solar energy is coming from the sun, going, you know, and arriving at the earth and we capture the photons and turn them into energy and so forth.
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Starting point is 00:39:40 matter by putting toruses together in ways that function, in ways that we can then access. That was some of the deepest stuff ever said on the show. I'm like digesting it. It's kind of like, it's such a complex thing about such a simple thing, right? It's complex but simple. How do we get the masses to understand all this stuff? And then I want to get into Tesla and his story and all that stuff, but how do we get what you're saying right now to the
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Starting point is 00:41:53 and Lincoln and King and Kennedy, the, you know, the leading-edge thinkers have been suppressed all along. And we have the opportunity now with the mainstream media that you're using, that we're using with our films, and I have my own show, the Freedom Portal at Thrive On.com, we're using this incredible technology to try to inform people, enough people. It doesn't take everyone. It doesn't, you know, the Civil War, I mean, the Revolutionary War was won by about 5 to 6% of the adult male population. That's all that one took. Ken Wilbur says it only takes 10% of the population to shift a paradigm. So I think we're actually, I think we're actually there. We're right on the cusp.
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Starting point is 00:43:13 but for the billions of lives that they've destroyed and the pedophilia and the bribery and the destruction that they've done. That's all, they've done all of that in order to try to keep their power. And they just can't anymore. We've got the truth, we've got love, and we've got the life force on our side. So it really, it comes down to the question of, okay, we know what's going on sufficiently. We know what's possible sufficiently. And if any of you don't are not hopeful about that, go watch Thrive 2 at thrive on.com. And a little over two hours later, you'll actually understand we have solutions to all this stuff. So then the question is, how do we
Starting point is 00:43:57 obsolete the vested interests who are keeping us from thriving? And let me just elaborate a little on who that is, if that's a mystery to any of your listeners. It it it. It it. It it. It's. It's. It's the the the the th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's thi. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to go. to go. to go. to. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. thriving. And let me just elaborate a little bit on who that is, if that's a mystery to any of your listeners. It's the corporate powers, you know, the energy companies, the pharmaceuticals and so forth. It's the military, it's the secret space program, it's the intelligence agencies, and it's the secret societies. Those are kind of the main network of people who have a vested interest in the rest of us not thriving.. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the thi. It's the the the thi's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's. It's, it's. It's. It's, it's, it's. It's, it's. It's the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the thi. It's the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi's thi's thi. It's thi. It's to the main network of people who have a vested interest in the rest of us not thriving. But even in those organizations, most of the people working for the corporations don't understand what the CEO and the chairman of the board are really up to. In the military, the white hats are waking up. Same thing in the intelligence agencies and they're acting very proactively right now
Starting point is 00:44:48 to reclaim the freedom that America was built on. And even the secret societies are starting to get exposed now. So how do we do that? Number one, get the word out and have the courage to to talk to your friends, even if they're going to look at you strange. You'll find out who your real friends tha actively actively actively actively to to to be pro pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr pr. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be pro actively to be pro actively right right right right right right right right right right right right right right now. to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thively right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the thi. thi. the actively the actively thro actively thro actively thro actively thro actively throo actively thro. the actively thro actively thi. thi. thi. the out and have the courage to talk to your friends, even if they're gonna look at you strange. You'll find out who your real friends are. And then we try to be very practical in the Thrive movement. So the next step is that we need to support and protect the innovators in every field.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So people who have business expertise, if you have money to invest or donate, if you've got security skills, this is what I've been doing for the last 10 years, is bringing together those forces around the different inventors to try to get the toothpaste out of the tube so that it can't be stopped any longer. And good news is it's happening. So that's number one. The next one is that we need to decentralize and collaborate for the liberation of these breakthroughs. And what we're doing toward that is we've got
Starting point is 00:45:53 on the Thrive website what we call a solutions hub. And we're about to launch next month. We're in a beta test right now. We're about to launch a whole new user-friendly version in 40 languages and all that. But even our old version at the Thrive Movement.com website has over 1,100 groups in 90 plus countries that are taking on lots of issues but then collaborating with each other and sharing best resources, you know, lawsuits, petitions, fundraising strategies, whatever it is so that not everyone, every group has to with each other and sharing best resources, you know, lawsuits, petitions, fundraising
Starting point is 00:46:25 strategies, whatever it is, so that not everyone, every group has to recreate the wheel. So I think the single most effective thing that we can do is collaborate globally as a decentralized, freedom-based solutions team that is taking this on, but there's no head of the octopus, there's no head of the snake that can be taken out. We're doing this on an open source platform and it's not going to do any good to take us out with our free energy inventors. We've got the intellectual property stowed in independent security formed in multiple countries around the world.
Starting point is 00:47:04 So we have to be strategic, and we are. it. It it. It it. It it. It it. It's, it. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thusususususususususus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's thus. There's th. There's th. There's th. There's th. There's th. There's th. There's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeateateateate. the. theateatea. theatea. There's the world. I love it. So we have to be strategic and we are. It's happening. Foster, Johnny here. You're all over my question and I just want to kind of go a little bit deeper. Is it because in the past these technologies were developed in isolation that perhaps there was, because I recall a time when people working in free energy were afraid. You know, they feared for their lives in some cases. I mean, you know, you've heard stories of that.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And I'm curious now, are they still afraid to some degree? Or has this networking, this kind of growing group of people who are working together? Has that emboldened them to pursue their research more publicly? Well, um, it's a very interesting question because it's still super dangerous out there. One of the best inventions on the planet was just destroyed along with the inventor about three months ago in South Korea. The guy was not sufficiently protected and he publicized the sale of these devices. The Ministry of Energy from South Korea visited, you know, with a camera crew and did his little photo op and so forth. And, you know, a few days later, the guy's
Starting point is 00:48:10 lab explodes and he's gone. So he hadn't taken the precautions. So precautions are really needed. We have a security team who has protected us for 20 years. We've had no problems at all. Doesn't mean we won't in the future. But we've been very careful. We're under the guidance of experts. And when we go into dicey situations, they're there. You know, with invisible backup. And anybody who messes with us or our inventors,
Starting point is 00:48:39 we'll have to deal with these people the rest of their lives. So that's, we're looking to turn the tables on people who want to intimidate, you know, good people into inaction. And it's happening, but it's, we depict in Thrive too, even though the guy who's coming out with some technology now in Zimbabwe. Before I met him, he was, he went public with it and he was thrown in jail in Zimbabwe. Before I met him, he was, he went public with it and he was thrown in jail in Zimbabwe. They tortured him, trying to get the knowledge out of him. And he said, listen, he was a very spiritual guy. He said, this is God's gift through me to God's, to all of God's children. So he said, I'll share the technology with you, but I won't give it to you to hoard for your military,
Starting point is 00:49:25 which is what they had acknowledged that they were trying to do. They ultimately let him out of prison. Then they poisoned him and his partner. His partner died. He's still suffering from it, you know, a couple of years later. But that the technology is now decentralized. And he's building factories in four different countries. He's starting to ship internationally and it's going to be like the electric car
Starting point is 00:49:49 You know the electric car came out and then They the powers that be rounded them all up and crush them if you see that yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul so real quick before you go any deeper because I I want to hear more about this story because I've heard about this story, but you know, I haven't gotten to the specifics. Where do we start on this Zimbabwe story? Can you go a little bit more into that from the beginning because I think it's such an important story? Yeah, well I was actually in Costa Rica working out in a gym when all of a sudden my phone
Starting point is 00:50:23 just lit up. This was a couple of years ago and I'm getting four five messages from different people saying have you seen the YouTube video on the guy from Zimbabwe. So I get off the treadmill and I'm watching this video and I've seen a lot of 95% of what I've seen isn't real. But this looked very compelling to me. Obviously you can fake anything on video but there was just a lot of evidence to look compelling.
Starting point is 00:50:48 So I spent two months trying to track this guy down and finally found him, created a zoom call just like this. And where we told each other our stories, he had watched, and he thought, God, maybe you're someone that I could trust. And I said, well, I can guarantee that I am, but you'll have to find out, you know, over time. So he said, come to Zimbabwe, I'll show you everything. So I did.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I was on a plane a week later with a film crew, the security crew, and an engineer, an experienced engineer to vet this technology and see if it th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, their, and he the, and he the, and he said, and he said, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and he the, and he the, and he th. And, and he th, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and he, and th...... And, and he the, and he the, and he's, the, the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thea, theee. And, the, th vet this technology and see if it was real. So this is the story that we tell and we filmed it all in Thrive too where there's this absolutely wonderful guy who has just been a naturally spiritual being since he was a little child he spent hours a day and he calls it prayer he was raised in a Christian community and he just goes into prayer,s to God for hours a day. Well, as a teenager, around 14, God starts answering. So what he starts getting is downloads about electronics concepts. And his dad had showed him a little bit about auto mechanics, but he knew nothing about electronics.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So he starts getting these concepts. This happens time after time. And then finally he has the feeling, oh, I think I understand electronics now. So he builds a, well, there was one more step. He, once the concept stopped, he started downloading diagrams, literally schematics of circuit boards, which he would draw and then give to a friend who knew how to make a circuit board.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And then he put him together and they'd always work. So the first thing he did with this was create a little radio antenna in his backyard. And he started his own radio program. So the government shows up and goes, no, you're not allowed to do that. He's like, th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. He's like, th. He's like, th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-hea, the thi, thr-a, thr-a, tho, the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. thr. th. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. threatean, threat. threat. threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, thr. thr. thr shows up and goes, no, you're not allowed to do that. He's like, okay, well, what can I use my knowledge of radio frequencies for? And then he remembered seeing women dying in remote medical clinics in the in the Bush in Zimbabwe for lack of refrigeration of their medicines. So he, he thinks, okay, that's something I can do. And he took him about two years, putting this stuff together together together tog together tog tog tog together tog to to th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. too. too. too. too. too. thi. too. too. too. too. too. too. th. th. the th. the the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm th. I'm the th. I'm the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. And, toe. And, the the toe. And, the the the the thinks, okay, that's something I can do. And it took him about two years, putting this stuff together, and he finally got it. And when people go to see the movie, you'll see me standing him, standing with him next to this device.
Starting point is 00:53:15 This nickname is Big Blue. It's plugged into nothing, no moving parts, no pollution, and it puts out constantly a half a megawatt. That's 500 kilowatts of electricity. And that's enough to run in Africa about 300 homes simultaneously. Wow. I want to say, if I want to play devil's advocate. People say 5G is dangerous and they could do harm to you. What about free electricity? There's nothing no harm, nothing you've heard that someone
Starting point is 00:53:49 might say, hey I could feel this? Well anything can be weaponized. You know a flashlight can be weaponized. You can hit somebody over the head with it. You know you put petrol in a bomber and you go bomb someone you say oh we shouldn't have petrol. No. And it's the same thing with free energy. Free energy itself is not going to harm anyone. Is it going to make the fighter jets and the bombers
Starting point is 00:54:12 fly further without refueling? Yeah, absolutely. Is it, does it decrease the danger that we're currently facing with wars over oil and nuclear weapons? Absolutely. I have no question that it's worth pursuing. I don't think it's been withheld by the cosmos. Like a lot of new ageers like to say, maybe humanity's not ready. No, you know, wake up and smell the global domination agenda.
Starting point is 00:54:41 They've been keeping it from us while promoting nuclear energy so they can get the nuclear waste and get the nuclear bombs to control everybody. So now I think free energy itself there are there are ways of accessing and which could be dangerous in the process. Just like anybody who's, you know, been at a concert where a rock musician stands in front of the speaker with his guitar and all of a sudden you get this feedback. You can hear the energy building and it'll the energy building and it'll the energy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the nuclear the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the rock musician stands in front of the speaker with his guitar and all of a sudden you get this feedback. You can hear the energy building and it'll blow out the fuses in the amps. There's a danger of that. One of the technologies that I work with in Southeast Asia, we've filmed it entirely, but it's not ready for, security-wise, it's not ready for prime time yet. But they've got, they've got their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, th. their, th. thirty, their, their, their, their, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, ready for prime time yet. But they've got, they had so much energy. They've got a different strategy. They've got coils put in a particular geometry.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And then again, they started with a battery, but then take the battery off. It runs itself, and these coils create these territorial vortices that generate in the core 20,000 volts. Now, that's a tonne of of of of of of of electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity electricity of of of their their their their the in the core 20,000 volts. Now that's a ton of electricity in one place. So they had, their problem was they had to figure out how to dump the extra electricity so they can make the rest usable and they figured it out. It's an absolutely brilliant solution.
Starting point is 00:55:55 They've been running their lab on it for several years. And that one also will be coming out. But free energy in and of itself, I consider, I I I I I I I I I I I I, I to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be to be coming out. But free energy in and of itself, I consider to be really an answer to our energy problem rather than the next level of problem. Real quick, you know, in physics, Johnny correct me if I'm wrong, is one of the rules energy cannot be created or destroyed? Is that rule right there created so people try to stay away from free energy, do you think? Do you think? No, I think that, I think that that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi, I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really thi really thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they one one oney?e really really thri, really that, really that, really, really, really that, really really that, really really really really really thate an throe an throe an to stay away from free energy, do you think? Do you think? No, I think that that rule is very accurate. But the part that they missed was the physicists were telling people that space was empty all
Starting point is 00:56:36 this time. No, space is full of energy. So you can't create or destroy energy because everything is energy. It's already infinite everywhere. So it's just a matter of changing the form. That was the power of E equals MC squared, is that you can transfer between matter and energy very powerfully. But in terms of accessing that energy, the key is you create an open system rather than a closed system.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Man, it's just, I love it. How close are you to taking any of these technologies that you've discovered, these, these, these inventions that these wonderful scientists and inventors have made and taken it to a mass scale. Are we a long way from that? Do you see it on the horizon in our lifetime in the next couple of years? What is your timetable on this? Oh yeah, it'll be in the next few years. Because as I say, the one in Zimbabwe is already coming out. These other ones, the one of them was offered $1.5 billion for the intellectual property, but it was by a large communist country that was going to use it for its military, so they turned that one down.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Another guy, a guy who has found a way to access free hydrogen and then run the device off of the free hydrogen. That guy was just, I can't say that I'm under nondisclosure on the actual details. But let's just say he was offered many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, to use to use to use to use thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I can't say that I'm under nondisclosure on the actual details, but let's just say he was offered many, many, many millions of dollars and 50% ownership in a new company to bring that one out to the world. But it was by the, one of the wealthiest guys on the planet who is partnering right now with Bill Gates to install 5G throughout India. So when the inventor found that out, he refused the planet who is partnering right now with Bill Gates to install 5G throughout India. So when the inventor found that out, he refused the deal. So we're literally that close.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It's just a matter of matching the right money with the right inventors. And we were, literally, we had inventors ready to fly, we had engineers and investors ready to fly when the engineers and investors ready to fly when the COVID thing happened. So as soon as the COVID restrictions lift in three different countries where I've got inventors, then those deals will be completed. And these guys already know how to build,
Starting point is 00:59:00 they've already got global energy companies, they've got manufacturing and everything. So I think we're looking at the initial breakthrough during this year, and then we're – I think we're looking at mass manufacturing over the next five years. You mentioned Bill Gates. Is Bill Gates our Lex Luthor? Like, is he the guy that they're portraying him as, is he playing a is he a lifetime actor who's playing a role to steal our lush and get us all scared about what's going on or should be we should we be very scared of what Bill Gates is where he's from who he is and what he wants? Yeah, I would say he's probably the single most dangerous man on the planet right now,
Starting point is 00:59:46 because of the money that he has, the corporations and government institutions and universities and labs and so forth that he controls, and all of that fed into the agenda. If he had all of that and his agenda was people thriving, that would be a real help. But no, his agenda, his agenda. If he had all of that and his agenda was people thriving, that would be a real help. But no, his agenda, I've studied the guy for 20 years. And I'm absolutely convinced that his agenda is depopulate, not only depopulation, but to take the remaining population, and with the exception of a few elites to turn the rest of us into AI bio robots under the complete control of their money systems and their artificial intelligence systems, so that they own and control the operating systems that our bodies will then be dependent on if he has his way.
Starting point is 01:00:51 So as you move forward, you meet new people, people approach you about, you know, their inventions wanting to help your organizations, do you worry about, you know, agents provocateurs showing up, undercover, you know, intelligence people infiltrating your organization? Does that make you nervous? Absolutely. I mean, I don't feel nervous about it anymore, but they, when we first hired this security team 20 years ago, they sat down with us and said, well, you know, with what you guys are up to, it is going to be all to help, uh, under their, uh, under, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, under, uh, uh, under, uh, under, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, under, under, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, under, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this security team 20 years ago, they sat down with us and said, well, you know, with what you guys are up to, there's going to be all sorts of risks,
Starting point is 01:01:31 but the most common risk and the initial threat for you guys will always be infiltration. Because that's the strategy of the Mr. Global is to infiltrate all these organizations just like they did with the mainstream media, with the universities, with the culture. The Mason's and on and on. So we only work closely with people that we know personally,
Starting point is 01:01:53 that come through people that we know personally, and even then we do deep background checks to make sure that people are playing on the right team. Should I be worried about Johnny? He's the new one. Oh, no, I've checked out John thoroughly. Oh, there we go. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Oh, thank you. So, okay. Yeah. Hey, so let's say I have an invention, right. Or I invent something really great. How do I go about it? Because I've heard that way if you go get a copyright, the government can go in there and panning it, taking away, make you not use it. How would I handle this situation? I get a phone where I find a charger where I don't need,
Starting point is 01:02:33 it charges for hours. Have you seen those commercials where they're like, telltake my invention? Can we have your invention? That's as smart as cash for gold? You remember that? We're like, send us your gold and we'll send you some cash, we promise you. You're like, okay, that makes any sense. Yeah, how do you, how do you, how would you do? Let's say, Xavier woke up with free energy. The very last thing that you want to do is apply for a patent if you've got a working free energy device. to. If. If, th. If, th. If, th. If, th. If, th. If, th. If, th. If, to, th. If, to, to, th. to, to, th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th device. First of all, they'll decline it because they have a commandment in the US patent office that it contradicts the loss of physics and therefore you can't do it. But in the process, if it's a good one, and these guys know what the good ones are,
Starting point is 01:03:21 because they've had them in the secret space program for decades. If it's a good one, what they'll do is they will confiscate your application, they'll confiscate your lab materials, and then they will gag order you, which is you can no longer talk about it publicly, and they want a list of anyone that you've talked to about it. And I've seen that gag order. I've known inventors who have been exposed to it and so forth. So it's very real. And the U.S. Patent Office has confiscated over 11,000 new energy patents. You know, the public number is 5 to 6,000, but I have an insider who investigated that for a long time and got in trouble for investigating it, but he's a truth teller and he said it now it's over 11,000. What pretense is that done under? Is that national security? How do they? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's a national security directive. So the way to do it, I believe, is you find someone like me and an entrepreneur who has an established track record of trustworthiness. You know
Starting point is 01:04:24 my fundamental covenant with all my inventors is I will never knowingly bring an asshole across your threshold. And I'm honest about that. So you find someone trustworthy who can help you put together the money, the business, and the security. And only when you have all those together, do you, you know, start talking publicly in any way? Do you, as we come to an end and of this wonderful conversation, I always want to get kind of into hope and tell me about your thoughts on spirituality and where your movement fits into that.
Starting point is 01:05:07 You know, because I believe that we are all way more powerful than they want us to know, that we are all part of the universe. We're all, let's say, gods. And you know, people get weird on that. Then you hear, oh, Satanism. It's like, no, that a SIOP in my humble opinion. But like, tell me about your thoughts on your journey of like what you've learned about
Starting point is 01:05:31 humans, humanity, like the powers that be, they, do you believe in entities? What else do you believe in? Because I believe that all this false flag stuff is dumb because we have all the power and they have none of the power and like you said it's a million to one in terms of ratio and they're getting us early man and it gets into these you know our school systems my parents were bold teachers I really respect teachers because they don't get paid anything and they're thrown into a crazy situation but more and more we're starting to see thee that th th th th th th th th th the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their thoooooooooooooooooooooes. their. their. their. their. their. their. thethey don't get paid anything and they're thrown into a crazy situation. But more and more we're starting to see that there's, maybe it's the exposing of it that we never saw exposed before, but a pushing of a narrative that does not fit how I see the universe.
Starting point is 01:06:18 What are your thoughts on all that? What do you just, you know, your spiritual view of the, I love of everything, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.e.e.e.e.e.e. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, just, you know, your spiritual view of everything? Well, it's a beautiful question, and I think one of the most important ones, and it's a lot of why I felt so honored to come on your show, because, you know, you guys, I think you're genuinely hilarious. You're irreverent, you know what the fuck is going on. But you're also willing to talk about it and keep a sense of humor about it. And I like to talk with people who can go anywhere in the conversation. And when you can go anywhere in the conversation, you better be able to go spiritual, otherwise it's going to eat away at your brain and your soul. So in response to that, I, I, I believe that we are all part of the unified field.
Starting point is 01:07:10 The entire unified field is being manifested in each one of us every moment. So that's a lot of backup. The unified field has our back and is feeding us what we need to know if we're willing to ask sincerely and then confront the answer honestly. And I'm not you know a member of any organized religion but my experience of spirit is super profound and I have hung out with some of the leaders of the artificial intelligence, the transhumanist movement, and it's both inspiring intellectually and scientifically and absolutely horrifying in terms of the implications, because virtually none of them have any sense, either intellectually
Starting point is 01:07:59 or experientially, of the metaphysical, of the spirit, of the soul at all. And these are the people who are going to be programming the behavior of these robots that they want us to surrender our consciousness too. But I have felt all along that, okay, you can make a computer, or you can make a robot very, very powerful in terms of its ability to calculate. And you can make it look intelligent, but you'll never make it conscious, you'll never make it alive because that's two different things you know programming chips is very different than actually accessing the field and so I have felt all along that
Starting point is 01:08:38 they were not going to succeed in just getting people to upload their consciousness to a computer because a computer can't deal with consciousness and so what they're tho thu, th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to thi to thi to to to to thi to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to upload their consciousness to a computer because a computer can't deal with consciousness. And so what I'm seeing now, particularly in the Gates agenda, is that I think that they're recognizing that along with, you know, Kurtzweil and a bunch of these other people, they're recognizing that spirit is inhumanity. And it resides, it animates your biology, but it's not your biology.
Starting point is 01:09:10 So what they're doing now, rather than just trying to get people to surrender their consciousness to the robots, is to get us all to put the chips into our bodies, so that they can get the life force from our spirit from it having enough biology, but they want to take it over with their digital artificial intelligence. And so I think that that has become their goal.
Starting point is 01:09:36 So I think the recognition of spirit is, there's nothing more important on the planet right now. Because I believe that our task as evolving humans is to complete, to fulfill this octave of evolution by learning how to communicate well with other people, by learning how to love, by learning how to be honest, by learning how to relate harmoniously to nature and extraterrestrials and whatever else the fuck is out there, that's our job as human beings is to fulfill
Starting point is 01:10:13 our potential as human beings and whatever comes after that that we can't even imagine. And to do that in harmony with the digital technology, AI has tremendous potential, as long as we always have choice, about to what degree we integrated into ourselves. So I think spirits at the core of the whole thing. And when we can combine that with what we call the non-aggression principle, this approach to a universal morality that transcends the beliefs
Starting point is 01:10:48 of the religions, the transcends the beliefs of the state about what's right and wrong, and actually goes to a recognition that the only basis that we've been able to find for a universal morality is the non-aggression principle, which says that no one gets to initiate force against anyone else except in true self-defense. Now most people say, oh well, sure, I believe in that, but then they turn right around and their support of government. And governments themselves are by definition only in existence by violating the non-aggression principle and taking people's money against their will at the point of a gun.
Starting point is 01:11:25 So that's our big challenge that we and thrive to, the punchline of thrive too, is we'll have access to expanding consciousness, to healing and preventing all these major diseases, will have access to free energy and so forth. When we obsolete these people who have a claimed authority over us, reclaim our own authority at the same time that we honor the authority of every sovereign being not only on this planet but visiting from others or that we end up visiting. So thanks for asking. No, I'm down with it. I think transhumanism is very dangerous. I think they know that what we live in, whatever you want to call this,
Starting point is 01:12:07 realm, dimension, electric field, that they want to trap us here because we're not meant to trap here. You know, it's the model of abundance versus scarcity. They leverage death against the scarcity of life so that we run and all please save us please save us so we can enjoy these couple days that we get in this life because it's pounded in us we only live once right you only live once and that gets pounded into you and they're like well what if you could live forever by living into this robot sounds awful I'm 48 and I can't even deal with what's going on in the world today.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Can't imagine when I'm 200 years old. I'm gonna enjoy any music, movies, anything at all? It's gonna be chaos, so. It's worse than the music and movies, Sam. I sat down with one of these guys literally for two days and talked it all through. And he was so excited telling telling telling telling telling tel tel. to to to to to to to so excited telling me and it's going to be so efficient we can get rid of food, we can get rid of sex and I'm like no you've gone too far you lost me. You want to get rid of eating and sex that's like what everybody enjoys.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Pretty much to keep Sam elaborate. Yeah, that's what they keep up from behind your screen sometimes and start enjoying life. I and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th, that's what they keep up. Sacks, I'm going. But yeah. And start enjoying life. I guess if you can't get a lot of that, you want to eliminate because you don't want anyone else to have fun, right? I mean, it's very interesting. I truly believe these guys are desperately running from their own fear and and using all their tech savvy to try to their their their to their their their thoes.. And their their. their money and their tech savvy to try to create a barricade to keep their fear at bay. I totally agree with that. I was going to ask about a Bill Gates story, a question, but. Yeah, go on. You mentioned Kurzweil positively earlier, right? Am I right about that?
Starting point is 01:14:00 Do you have concerns about his sort of transhumanist leanings, Ray Kurzweil? No, I think I would speak positively of Kurzweil about his intelligence and his inventiveness, but in terms of his agenda, no, he is right in their hand in hand with Gates on this transhumanist agenda. And what most people don't know about Kerswah, I mean, you know, kind of invented the synthesizer, which is, that's a good contribution. Yeah, yeah. But, but the, the big thing with him is for people who don't know it, is that his, his dad died young. Right. And Kurswile, as brilliant as he was, was not able to save him. And he was so ashamed, felt so guilty that he devoted his life to getting rid of mortality. He's got his dad cryogenically frozen and he's promised to bring him back by 2029.
Starting point is 01:14:55 So if you follow the actual human story of any of these these kind of, what they're calling now, Digiradi. I love that. If you follow the human story and again and again you'll come back to just a fear of their own mortality or a fear of not being able to ever be good enough for dad or mom or whatever it is. So it's the humanity that that needs to just surface for us to actually heal as a species and then live in harmony with this technology rather than than giving ourselves over to it. Sounds like a bizarre Batman story right? Is that what Batman was about?
Starting point is 01:15:38 Couldn't save his dad so he just became a crime fighter and sometimes it goes the opposite way for sure. Foster, thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate it for those who can't, who want to find out more, where would you like to send them? Yeah, go to Thrive On. dot com. And you can see Thrive 1 there. You can see our recently released sequel Thrive Two. You can find out about my show the Freedom Portal where we dive deeper on, we literally take a month on each each major issue and we dive deep in there. And then also if you're interested in moving into solutions, you'll find out about our solutions hub.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And we'll be there, there it is it is yeah and we'll be launching our new version in May that can coordinate the activity of solutions groups literally worldwide. It's wonderful. Do you own any white tigers? No, but sometimes if I place myself right one sits on my hand. Thank you so much for coming on. Man, this has been a wonderful, wonderful conversation, Foster. I think it's what people need to know. It's like, you know, one of the first episodes we did on Tim Follet was with a guy named Duncan Trussle.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And he always talked about how there were people who were working in the light that were pushing it back against the darkness and you know I think you're one of those people. What is that? What is that? What are you listening to? I was doing this amazing closing and you started playing Mariacci music in the middle of it. Okay real quick, Johnny if you could find that right towards the end real quick. Boston, thank you so much for this up for coming on. I really. I I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I really. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. What, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. Bossier, thank you so much for this, for coming on. I really do appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:17:25 One of the first shows we ever did was with Duncan Trust, only talked about how there are people working the light. I really do believe you're one of those, and I can't thank you enough. And please come back any time you want to the door is open. with you and I have another show called Zero and anytime you're available for that I'd love to have you on that as well but I appreciate your time and I appreciate your hard work and you you give us all hope here so thank you for
Starting point is 01:17:51 coming on Tim Foll hat. You are welcome thanks for that and for anyone out there who is feeling helpless or hopeless I guarantee you we already have what it takes to thrive. So let's just make it so. All right brother, I appreciate you. Thanks coming on. You're the best and we'll do it again soon. I love you, Swarm. Thank you for all the support.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I want to see you in Austin. We'll talk to you soon. We go deep home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning.
Starting point is 01:18:37 You just put my mind. Tim foil hack.

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