Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #439: The Dark Art Occult Psyop Of Serial Killers with Jay Dyer

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Starting point is 00:06:47 He's done this show a bunch of times. You've seen him on Info Wars and we're super excited to have him here. He is the occult killer thriller. This is Jay Dyer. How are your brother? I'm great, dude. Thank you,. It means a lot to me that you always come on anytime I need you you step up and it means the world to me and we're excited to announce that you're now on Rockfin right? Yes that has

Starting point is 00:07:13 been a huge blessing dude. Shout out to you shout out to Burma shout out to all the good guys over the good guys over thin. That's been great. One week we're already doing excellent over there. That's why I try to tell everybody it's like I tell you know it's so interest because I don't want to make that all about this but like I tell I tell the people in like the conspiracy world they're like yeah let me go go try it man. I tell all the comedians they're like I don't it's a cash register go check it out. I think it's because they they are more familiar with show business and like anybody giving you something it usually is trying to screw yeah it's like a casting couch or something Exactly yeah like okay who do I got blow for these tokens like no you don't blow anybody all they asked was to touch my bottom yeah I like just one small touch and I let them touch my bottom and now I'm good? I got I got banged this week.

Starting point is 00:08:05 That rolled out. Dude, dude, I feel like touching your bottom is kind of like when Neo touched the mirror and it's just like, whoa, one, one, it's also like when he has the spin. Like my bottom will like that. Yeah, yeah. That's what they've always said about you dude. It's like your bottom just fins like that Jay for those who don't know you can you tell us a little bit about yourself for those who live under a rock that don't know you Who does a little bit about you and your and your books and all that stuff? I'm the biological father of Samuel L. Tripoli In real one. Oh, that was really dumb. I do philosophy, I do film analysis, I do really cringe,

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Starting point is 00:15:14 He's a good friend of mine. I haven't been on a show in eight years. I mean, that's how secret it is, right? So I mean like, and so I, we've been, to me we've been having a whole lot of like giant red pill moments on a global level. I think Epstein was the first one where like, for like 17 hours, everyone's like, okay you're right on that. Yeah, you're right, you're right. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. That's. That's. that's. That's. That's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's. And that's, I that's. And that's. I that's. And that's. So, like, okay, you're right on that one. You're right, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, right. And then it became, no, he's dead.

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Starting point is 00:16:50 in English and he did one of the KGB colonels diaries about Robert Maxwell and his connections to the operations that were being run during the Cold War. And guess where where do you think Jus Lane learned all of this from her daddy? That's where her dad is like the biggest Cold War spy story is of course that perhaps even he was killed by Israeli intelligence so whether that's true I don't know but what we do know is that he was definitely running these kinds of large-scale blackmail operations and they're kind of the predecessors to Epstein just like other US operations like the North Fox Island elites that we're doing the exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact exact the exact the exact exact. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. their thi. their their their their their their their their the predecessors to Epstein just like other U.S. operations, like in the North

Starting point is 00:17:25 Fox Island elites that we're doing the exact same type of model of compromise as the Epstein operation. And this involved people connected to John Wayne Gacy as well as other serial killers. Okay, so I don't want to break down a couple things real quick before we get into that. You know, this blackmailing of sex has been going on forever. And it's why I, as a conspiracy theorist, don't like to get in to the demonization of gay people. Because to me, that adds to the ability to blackmail. If we're always like, oh these people are gay, you send everybody back into the closet and then they end up just trying to be themselves and then they end up getting position and blackmail. Like as long as you're not

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Starting point is 00:22:07 So let's get into like the 70s era Epstein Island. What was that? And have there always been like islands? And are there more islands? I mean right now in Canada they have that one guy who is being being... Oh the other Epstein, the Canadian Epstein? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's being played on that. Do you think there was a global takedown? Do you think Trump did that? Did that actually happen, do you think? So I looked into a lot of those operations, like a broken arrow, these kinds of operations that do seem to be at a certain level going on and were coordinated between Interpol and other countries. But the problem, of course, as you know, is that there's really just like one strata of

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Starting point is 00:23:31 Epstein-Syne style operation, which is up in Michigan. So yeah, I think that this is just like a model. And a lot of people that go to these things, they don't know what they're getting into, right? Like in the case of the Picked and Pig farm, people were getting invited to just big raves in the 90s. Oh, yeah, it was gonna, let's go to the fucking raid, man. And then they go to this rave and there's like people being seriously messed with, tortured and even killed. That's the story at least. And now they're all implicated. camera at these parties at these events and you're automatically compromised right and

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Starting point is 00:25:45 in terms of Canadian serial killers, is the Picton Pig Farm, the two brothers there. But what of course is covered up is the fact that in many cases, of course the establishment, a lot of the local police are actually helping out with these operations. They're actually attending the events. In fact, one of the RCMPs himself was part of this bondage ring, right, which they were getting into some really, like you said, stuff that actually harms people, right?

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Starting point is 00:27:17 lifetime but the next generations or the next generations. Yeah I think in situations like that you have a lot of times lower level middle class people or people even from the streets, right, they get brought into these things. In the case to pick them pig farm, there was a lot of prostitutes that were brought into that operation and ended up dead. And then people that were coming to the parties were mid-level, famous-tier people, and it was run by these basically local thugs in concert with really high-level people. I'm talking like billionaire level people.

Starting point is 00:27:51 So that's usually kind of what's going on is that you've got a few like higher up really wealthy really powerful people who kind of from the background can run these operations. And then you've got a lot of people that are used that don't know what's going on. They think they're just they're just just just just just just they're just just they're just just just just they're just just they're just just just they're just just they're just just just just they're just just they're just just just just their just their just their just their just their just their just their just their just their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. lot of people that are used that don't know what's going on, right? They think they're just going to parties, they're going to, you know, clubs, or going to an event for a biker gang or something like that. And there's something much darker going on. And in some cases, some of the people actually appear to have been part of a generational, like, they were raised in a family that it was into this.., I was just looking out one of the wealthiest families in the US is the Duke family. If you read the interview with the children

Starting point is 00:28:29 of the Duke family in Rolling Stone, they say that they were raised in this kind of cult, they say they were brainwashed, they were forced to eat scat, all this kind of stuff. So it's very real. I don't mean to be too dark or, you know, too, too nasty on your show. But I mean, I'm just, I'm blown away at the level of the stuff that is out there now. And this whole thing with the Michigan North Fox Island stuff, I mean, this is all like, you know, people have just recently put this together that's like these serial killers, not in every instance, not saying everybody's in on it, but in many cases,

Starting point is 00:29:11 they're not just like running crazy organically lone gunmen like Oswald. They're, they're literally always connected to these really high-level people. They have military service and training for this kind of stuff. And this is a repeat pattern that that hardly anyone even talks about. I mean in other words the pattern of the serial killer according to like the FBI and the mainstream narratives and the documentaries is just completely wrong. Right? They tell you oh it's one guy has an obsession with nasty hose and he prowls around all night because he just wants to to kill hoes because he's mad at his mom or some shit right right. right. right. right. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, th. the, the, the, th. the the, th. the, the the the, th. the the the the the the the the, the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I I. I. I. I. I. I's, they. I's, they. I's, I'm, I'm, te. I'm, I'm, they. te. I's, the te. the the the the the the That's not true. Like that's, in most cases of the serial killers, they don't have a pattern. They kill all kinds of different people. In some cases, they do prefer certain people.

Starting point is 00:29:53 Like in Dahmer's case, he preferred, you know, male prostitutes. But there's other situation. Donner was actually being investigated by the German government for four. thuuuuuuuuu. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They thi. They thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. the the that that that the the the the the that that the that that thi. thi. they they thi four or five murders that occurred while he was stationed in Germany. Right? And that was squashed. There's an embassy cable that talks about that investigation into Dahmer being being squashed because it was directly connected to a high-level military official. And Dahmer just happened to be stationed about 30 minutes away from another serial killer who was stationed in Germany, Gary Heidnick, who came back to the U.S. and started his own cult and he was known to have been part of M.K. Ultra. So that's a good suggestion, right, that it's very possible that Domer was actually part of M.K.A.A.A.

Starting point is 00:30:40 It could have been a government contract killer, and so just to sum up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up. a government contract killer, a government assassin. And so just to sum up, I mean, kind of what I'm getting at here is in the case of a lot of these serial killers, rather than it being the story that the FBI gives or the mainstream narrative about serial killers, the real story is that they usually have accomplices. It's not just one guy, it's not a lone gunman or a lone killer. In a lot of cases, it's a contract killing or it's a theyxxxxxxapapapapapapapapapapapap – i, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a the their, it's a their, it's a their, it's a their, their, their, their, their, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thrownean, thi thro thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi, there's a connection to some kind of cult or the occult or Satanism. A lot of cases, they film it, not just for proof if it's a contract killing to prove that they've done it, but also for the S&U double F type stuff. It's, they're usually well connected in terms of either military training or they literally have like high level political connection.

Starting point is 00:31:25 Did you know Dahmer when he was 14 took when his high school class went to D.C. he made a phone call and they went and met with Walter Mondale the vice president? What? What 14 year old makes a phone call and they meet with the vice president? Do you ever hear that? I have never heard that but you know what? It makes complete sense. It just makes complete sense how connected these guys both on like a criminal level and on a pop culture level. I mean like I want to get back to this because like I again I'm reading that book chaos. Yeah I just got that about Charles Manson. I mean, I'm about to say, sounds just like that. I just got that. About Charles Manson?

Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah, sounds like the same. I mean, it's just exactly what you're talking about, dude. But it's like when you, when they talk about, you know, um, graceful, the one woman who does those awesome videos on YouTube. Yeah, I know her. Graceful, I'm butchering name and I feel bad, but she's wonderful and she was talking about Matt Damon and Ben Affleck and how connected they are and how like before the movie, Goodwill Hunting, what is that the movie? Yeah, came out. They were having a private screening with Bill Clinton.

Starting point is 00:32:43 Oh what? Wow, really? Yeah, like Bill Clinton, there's a picture of them as young guys sitting down watching the movie with Bill Clinton. And that this whole story about them being from humble roots is a complete bruise to like because it's like, it's like when LeBron James is like crying about racism, because you've got to make a connection with the people you're trying to sell this shit to because if they know that you're just, you've been a rich bitch since you were 14 or 15 years old because everyone knew you were

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Starting point is 00:33:51 people in the intelligence services but there are some dark arts people involved right Jay what's your opinion on that? Oh no totally like so I was doing some research and I dug up this 2002 article from a Canadian journalist who is the only mainstream journalist I've ever seen make this connection where he points out that, hey, wait a minute, maybe as part of the profile of serial killers that they had military training. Maybe that's relevant? I mean, train what entity trains killers? Oh, the military, right? Oh, it turns out, New York Times, London Telegraph is responding to this interview

Starting point is 00:34:30 given by Dr. Thomas Nero back in, I think in the 70s, is that, yeah, it's 1975. So there was this interview that this guy from the Navy, a Navy psychologist, a psychological warfare guy, was saying, yeah, we have a program where we profile psychos in prisons, and we bring them into this Navy program, but don't worry, we're not training them to kill. What?

Starting point is 00:34:53 It's an assassin program. This is a real thing, right? So these are all mainstream articles I found. And the point is that it's always this case, right? I mean, did you know John, Johnacy? You could find a picture of him chilling with Rosal and Carter, Jimmy Carter's wife. Yes. That is insane, right? I mean, who has ever said this, right? You would think this would be part of the profile, maybe having high-level connections, is irrelevant the situation, like, if you're an investigator, right? If I was

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Starting point is 00:36:10 the diagnoses of the MPD, DID, you know, the social identity disorder, in other words. And that's not a made up thing, right? You can read Dr. Colin Ross. He did a whole book on this called the Osiris Complex where he breaks down how a lot of people have undergone this ritual abuse, like they have that kind of alternate persona. So that's a real thing as to how, you know, expansive it is. That's up to debate. But remember that the MQULTRA mind control programs, they were studying, you know, project monarch, they were studying project, they were studying, you, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, threate, thi, threate, threat, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and, thi, they were studying these alternate personas and how to create assassins, how to create hypnotic couriers. So if we know, oh no.

Starting point is 00:36:50 So you don't how to create them. I mean, it's just two and two. And almost all of the serial killers, literally about 24 of the top serial killers had military training and or assassin training. Yeah, I mean, I mean, like, you're training people people, mean like you're training people to kill. I mean well let's take a look at Vietnam and the facts Vietnam had on people. Agent Orange, what did Agent Orange, what did those chemicals have to do? Like it's just kind of crazy and then you had that Dr. Jolly what is his name that was in

Starting point is 00:37:21 West right? And you go down to who's who who he worked with it's just like Kazinski Tim McBay oh no not just David Koresh Ruby from the assassination of of of Oswald and Charles Manson damn like he worked with all those kind of crazies. Now listen dude. So, I mean, you want to get into like demon possession when it comes to these things, right? I mean like, we've talked about us on the show, how we see these people who are on drugs looking like they're possessed. Because what does MK Ultra do?

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Starting point is 00:39:08 So the idea that he wouldn't be training killers. I mean, he says he wants to train killers. What he talked about? I mean, he says it openly in his writing. So, I mean, I can give you a whole list, too of the direct connections to Satanicatatatatian, the the their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a.e.e.e.a.a, is a.e. their.e. their. their.mea. their. toe.,a. toa. toe. toe. toe.a, is a. kind of stuff. Yeah. The serial killers. I mean, Son of Sam, he puts OTO Crowley and symbolism in the letters that he wrote to the police. Oh, man. Yeah, Zodiac, he wears the kind of cloak that you see, like a, the, when Crowley does the, Harpocriti secret, it looks a lot like the Ozoia Killers' cloak.

Starting point is 00:39:46 Dahmer had an obsession with the Exorcist 3 and he would rock back and forth in a trance watching the Exorcist 3, which is about a possess serial killer, by the way. And not only that, have you ever seen Dahmer's altar of power that he was going to build? No, what is it? So he sketched out this altar that is all skulls. And it has like these orbs, these blue orbs that the altar power. And it has a curtain. And so I don't even know what to, if you look up, a domer's altar of power, you'll see people sketches of it. It's wild.

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Starting point is 00:40:43 In the local the local local local local local local local local local local local local local local local local the local local the local the local the local the at the time. And in the local news about Bundy having a satanic connection, but nobody ever talks about that element in Ted Bundy. Everybody knows probably about Manson and the process church. I think you were talking about the tomo-nil thing. Well, the process church had a connection to not just Manson, but also to the figure of Son of Sam. So Son of Sam claims to have been raised in a generational cult that was intent on basically creating kids that would be killers. And he says that it wasn't just a cult.

Starting point is 00:41:14 It was also like we worked with mobsters. We worked with contract killings. And that's, I mean, again, a lot of times, these are the claims of the serial killers, which you can't take that at face value. But for example, in the case of Henry Lee Lucas, his claims in his book, Hand to Death, actually were accurate. He claimed that if you go to a certain compound down in Brownsville, Texas, he says you would find the bodies of people that have been killed. And turns out the serial killers have been saying,

Starting point is 00:41:49 John Wayne Gacy says this too, says I was part of a network, I was part of a group of people that killed. And this is even coming out now in mainstream news about Gacy. Gacy has said all a lot, yeah, I had accomplices. It wasn't just me. That's been downplayed, right, because it would implicate, obviously, not just other thugs, but accomplices can also mean higher level people. Yeah. It can be people saying, I want this guy calling out the hit, basically. I mean, if you read chaos, dude, Charles Manson is getting out of jail. When he has no right to be out of jail.

Starting point is 00:42:27 So, then Bundy, Bundy escapes twice. What? And they just let them out. And then you just have people making calls, telling people to get out, leave them out. What is he? Because the whole thing is a Siaop man. It's a free-range psychological experiment in hate Ashberry. I know I talked about in last episode but it's like fitting in right here it's like you have these people keeping law enforcement off you

Starting point is 00:42:56 know the the biggest raid ever in LAPD at the time was at the ranch where Charles Manson was and they were all released the next day. They were all released out there the next day. You know who else I think is the same thing is Richard Ramirez? Who caught him? Exactly. He has a pen-to-grant.

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Starting point is 00:44:10 with the women that they were procuring. The monster of Florence, Pachiani, another satanic serial killer. Armand Mywiast, the one who famously advertised that he wanted to eat somebody and he found a god who wanted to be eaten. I'm not joking by the way. Israel Keys, another famous American serial killer, totally completely 100% that openly dedicated all the killings to Satan. So it's again, North Fox Island has a satanic connection. The Ripper, the Yorkshire Ripper is one of the bodies of the Yorkshire Ripper is found in Sable's yard, literally, and he's best friends not just with, Sable is best friends, not just with one serial killer, Yorkshire Ripper, but also with Myra Hendley another group of serial killers.

Starting point is 00:44:58 So I mean, in the Savile case, literally best friends with multiple serial killers. I mean, that guy, I just like, I mean, these are the list of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. th. th. the th. th. thi. th. I th. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. th. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the mean these on the list of if I have a time machine. I'm gonna go fuck up. He's so ugly too. I mean you have to be a fucking scumbag if you're that ugly. Nobody's gonna we've willfully let you get weird with them. You know you look at a movie like let let's say, Frankenstein, right? I mean, like, a lot of times the movies tell you what's going on behind the scenes, right? Like, scientists create this thing and it gets out of control, right? And it's just going around, killing people. I mean, how many times we see that movies? I mean, the alien, right? The scientists want to keep the killers, and they want their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, s. And, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they scientists want to keep the killers and they want to bring it back for something,

Starting point is 00:45:46 and it gets out and it kills everybody. I mean, we see these stories being told constantly. The more and more you do this podcast, the more and more you're like, these stories are just like, was it, stigul, sigil, magic, where they kind of let you know what's going on behind closed doors so that they can kind of get like a carmically relieved of the you know what they're doing to the world. Did you ever watch that? Do you remember the TV show Millennium? Have you ever heard of that? It had, it's an X-File spin-off. It has Lance Henderson as kind of the lead detective who was trying to solve these occult crimes. It only lasted three seasons, but it was really wild in this regard of spoiler alert, but the season for the show finale was actually

Starting point is 00:46:33 that there is a program that the Illuminati have run to try to on the one hand advance human intelligence by increasing people's IQ. Oh, but oops, accidentally in some cases, it actually creates serial killers. I'm not joking, that was how the show ended, was that the Illuminati had accidentally, so-called created the serial killers who were going out and doing the ritual crimes, and they were all part of this network

Starting point is 00:46:57 and this education of children, right? Where they would bring children into this program, the Millennium Club program, and raise them to try to increase their IQ. They would do, you know, like M-Culture style modification to their brains and this kind of stuff. And it literally was causing schizo, kind of breakdowns, MPD, D-I-D, you know, basically possessed guys to go out and murder and kill. So, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I th. th, I th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. And, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, I mean, right there, what you're talking about is exactly what's in the plot of that that famous Fox TV show.

Starting point is 00:47:31 And by the way, I went back and re-watch the Sons of the Lambs. I mean, everybody knows about, you know, Hannibal, Clarice, right? I actually have a new take on that where I actually think Clarice, because if you watch it it it it it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th, th, they, they, like, like, like, like, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, th, th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. take on that where I actually think Clarice, because if you watch it, like, she, they take her directly from the FBI training ground, she's out like running laps and shit. She's still doing her training and they take her and immediately put her on the case of the worst killer. It makes no sense, right? But then what happens? The guy that runs the psych ward, he literally refers to Hannibal Lecter as their greatest asset and he becomes Clarice's handler. He's handling her.

Starting point is 00:48:17 And so now when I go back, I'm like, no, no, this is actually a story about the serial killer being the handler, not the FBI person. And he's handling her, that's the whole thing about the lambs.. handler, not the FBI person, and he's handling her, that's the whole thing about the lambs. Like he knows her trauma, and he's coaching her to try to make her into him. Now she doesn't actually do that. The story goes in different direction, but if you go back and watch Silence of the Lambs, there's a lot of scenes that don't make sense unless it's actually about Clarice being brought into some kind

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Starting point is 00:50:13 They do them put them put it. They do know they actually die. Yeah, they could be just putting them into a, like a sleep and they do what they do with the Popes. They just move around. Yeah, they move. Yeah, do you remember that terrible Bond movie, the one with, with Hallie Berry? I forget which one that is, but it's Pierce-Parrows. Another day, I think, is that dying of the day? Do you remember how that they, so the bad guy guy, that he like becomes a British agent, but he's

Starting point is 00:50:45 like a North Korean or whatever. I mean, it's ridiculous plot, but I mean, there really is. Like there's a guy who has a whole book, his name is Carlos Mendez, I think he does. His book called, excuse me, Antonio Mendez, called a master disguise, and he's like the CIA's guy's guy for that kind of stuff, right? Like, minor facial reconstruction. He has a whole book on like, you know, creating these kinds of personas and disguises. And that's why Hollywood has always been so close

Starting point is 00:51:10 to the intelligence agencies to the CIA, this kind of stuff is because like it makes perfect sense, right? I mean, they do the same stuff, right? Yeah, I mean, they both play live roles. I mean, within like, just, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. the.a, th.a, th.a.a.a. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. I mean within like just like pop culture. It's like how many these people are what they called lifelong actors? Like does anyone really believe Bill Gates is the center of all this stuff or is there like a level below above him, which is the Rockfellers? I mean the Rockefeller's names are all along the lines of like what Bill Gates has been doing with this event 201 and everything else, but Bill Gates is the bad guy. Nobody ever brings up the Rockefeller's.

Starting point is 00:51:54 So you're saying there's lifetime serial killers. No, what I'm saying is within pop culture, there's people who play roles for a lifetime. I'll tell you meant that, like there were serial killers that do it for like, because you know they say there's 2,000 active serial killers that are a moment. I mean, like, dude, I'm sure there's a serial killer that died of old age. So Jay, what do you think of, you know, FBI claims that have spent quite a lot of resources in profiling? Is that, thio-sio-scius, is that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, is a th. I. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I'm thi? What would you say? No, no. No, so what I think, there's a really good chapter in, if you read Dave McGowan's book, Program to Kill, which is kind of, so the first book that came out kind of questioning a lot of this, the normal serial killer narrative was Mori Terry's book, their own, more Terry's book, their, their, which is, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, and, and, and, and, was, and, and, and, their, and, and, their, and, their, and, their, and, and, is. their, is. the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and.. the, and, and.. the, and, and.. the, and. And. the, and.. And. And, and. And, and... And, and.. And, and, and.... And, and.. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the the the the the the their. the the their. their. the the, their. the, the, the, the, the, enough info that the process search actually took Mori Terry to court and Terry won, so he won his case that he didn't get sued.

Starting point is 00:52:49 Because he was making a connection between the Manson situation and Son of Sam via this higher level cult of process or 4P or whatever. But there's a really good chapter. So the next kind of follow-up type of book to Morritorius is Dave's book Program to Kill where he goes into just a lot of the stories that don't make sense with the serial killer killers and one of the chapters is about the creation of the serial killer narrative and so he talks about how I think of the late 70s the FBI formed the serial killer profile unit and his argument is that this was actually part of the psychological warfare........ th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, thi. I, thi. I, the the thi. I, the the the the thi, I, I'm, I'm, I, the, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the thi, the thi. too, too, the too, too. too. too. too. too. the too. the too. the. the. was actually part of the psychological warfare, right? Because there were so many guys kind of coming back from Vietnam at this time who had been trained in the Phoenix program to be literally like cannibals. I'm not joking,

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Starting point is 00:54:10 And everybody would laugh at the deal. Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah, they got you in Vietnam, right. They did. They really got these people people people from these different, you know, deployments, like at military psychiatric hospitals like Dahmer and Gary Heidnick, and they come back and they're killer, they're crazy cult killers. Well, I think that one of Dave's point is that it's not just a domestic, it's not just an attack in terms of psychological warfare on the Viet Cong.

Starting point is 00:54:46 It's also a targeting of the domestic population in the U.S. And so if you read, for example, again, remember I was telling you that Michael Aquino was the U.S. Army's psychological warfare guy. He wrote the new doctrine of what the U.S. Army's psych warfare was. And in Aquino's writings, he says that we're not we're not just fighting America's enemies. The domestic population is the enemy. Is that great? So again, he would he would absolutely unleash the serial killer mythos upon, right, upon America. So what I'm saying is that it's a complex narrative of there are

Starting point is 00:55:22 killers, there are contract killers, but in many of the cases these serial killers are not actually doing all of the killing that they're supposedly doing. Like Henry Lucas claimed to have done 600 murders, and then he later admits that was made up, right? So it's on the one hand, there are serial killers, there are trained assassins, there are trained assassins, there are contract killings, and there are high-level political connections, and there are media lies and created myths and narratives. So it's all of those things together, and the FBI's serial killer profile or unit is also partly just a Hollywood creation. So if you want to get in something very interesting, the murder of Adam Walsh, super tragic, right? and this fits into the psychology of serial killers. So as soon as soon as the the the thiiiii th. So as th. So as th. th. th. th. thi thi the thi the thi the the the thi the the the thi the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thiol-a the media thiole thiole lies thi lies thi lies thi lies thi lies thi lies thiolies their lies lies their lies their lies their lies their lies their lies their lies thi lies the media the media the media the media the media the media the media their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, the. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. theat. thi. the. the. the murder of Adam Walsh, super tragic, right?

Starting point is 00:56:06 And this fits into the psychology of serial killers. So as soon as Adam Walsh goes missing, now people aren't leaving their house, to not let their kids leave their house that much. Now, look at this, look, and that's done purposefully. Stranger danger. And when statistically, it's shown, like, what's, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, stranger danger. And when statistically it's shown, like, what is it, 90% of the children who go missing are from someone they know. But now you're not talking your neighbor as much, you're not letting your kids go, kids aren't getting exercise as much as they used to. It's all psychological. And like, I mean, I don't want to say, I mean, okay, I'm not going to say it because

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Starting point is 00:57:42 But you get these high-profile situations like this where, oh, now the police have all teams before this, right? But you get these high profile situations like this, where, oh, now the police have like all this funding allocated to them. They can take on a military persona. It's the militarization of the police force. And a big part of that is this kind of stuff. So you're absolutely right, Sam, then if anyone doubts that, everybody could just read a whole book on how toto apply the principles of sorcery and black magic to psychological warfare.

Starting point is 00:58:07 Oh my God, dude. It's like, I just really wonder if none of this bullshit was going on, right? How much violence would there be? How much war would there be? I don't think a lot. And when we hear stories about warring tribes forever and this and there be? I don't think a lot. And when we hear stories about warring tribes forever and this and that forever, how much of it is actually real? Or how much is it to just constantly program us that war is inevitable? That people go to war,

Starting point is 00:58:39 and fighting between groups is inevitable, right? I mean like all these ancient wars forever I mean we've been doing the show long enough to hear that how much of a history is a lie? And that this notion that, oh, you know, whether it's Palestinians versus Israelis and like all this history of this. They've erased history over and over again. Why wouldn't they erase that history? Rewite it so those people fight with each other? I just watched a 1984 and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th th th th th th th th th history? Rewrite it? So those people fight with each other. I just watched 1984 and I'd forgotten, I mean, a long time ago I read the book, a long time ago, I watched the movie. I was watching the movie. I forgot that Winston works in the

Starting point is 00:59:14 department where you erase and change the news from history. So like his whole job in the ministry to the truth is to go through the news articles and change the history. So it's exactly what you talked to. What's that? You works at YouTube? Yeah. Well, dude, I'm telling you something, man.

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Starting point is 00:59:54 That's why I took Tim Full Hat off of YouTube. It's not there. my own website and I moved it on Odyssey and Rockfin. Those places right now are for free speech. I'm letting it go. It's not on YouTube because they don't want it anymore. I have other brands that are good for that. But man, after 2016, man, you started seeing articles disappear. You couldn't find the article. In one particular article, it was where the police chief talked about what they found on Anthony Wiener's laptop. There was a straight up article that named the chief who said it, good luck finding that article today. Where he said what he saw on that laptop made him cry.

Starting point is 01:00:39 By the way, that guy died about a month before he's supposed to retire his police chief. I mean, good luck. That's supposed to retire his police chief. I mean, good luck. That's what they're doing. But now it's more obvious because now they're like, fuck it, we're all into it. We got, we got to crank it up, we can't do it slowly. Because we're taking these too high of profile people down. Now we're just going to blatantly do it. They ding me on Twitter. I'm fucking done. So listen man, you got some stuff about the mob

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Starting point is 01:02:05 that practice is practice for ever man it is it is long and that is because those I mean if you grow grow up in a military family you are trained from the start to fucking play by the rules and how important the military is, you're easily, easily manipulated in my humble opinion, dude. And it's just like, yeah, I mean, Jim Morrison, his dad, right? Is Admiral Morrison, who's running the false flag of the Gulf of Tongaine famously. Jim Morrison, if you look at him right before he enters the so-called music scene before he becomes the doors, he's just a totally clean-cut, normal-looking dude. And then suddenly,

Starting point is 01:02:51 like he's this, you know, edgy, sort of counterculture figure. And that was all just created by the establishment and the media, as well as many of these, the mamas and the croas, the Crosby Stills and Nash, these people all come from high level OSS, Naval Intelligence, Military, Intelligence, CIA families. And I can, I think, I can list on. Keep going, dude. Let's stay on this. I might have you back for to do the, the, that, that, uh, mafia stuff, because I love this. This is, yeah. We haven't had a good one like this on this so Bruce Dern everybody knows who Bruce Dern is like you know Hollywood Laurel Canyon scene fixture his his godparents were FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt okay so his grandfather was George. Who was the secretary of war? So? So, uh, so. Uh, his grandfather was George Dern, who was the Secretary of War.

Starting point is 01:03:49 So not only that, George was, excuse me, his uncle was Archibald McLeish, who was skull and bones. So literally the Durns aren't just Hollywood royalty. They're literally like skull and blooms, you know, like high level, OSSCI level royalty, right? If you look at Barrymore, the weird thing about the Barrymore family, and I'm speaking here, John Barrymore, is that Barrymore was in the circles of Dennis Hopper, and they were running around doing some really dark arts type of shit

Starting point is 01:04:24 that you talked about. Dennis Hopper was with Dean Stockwell supposedly and David Carreting's dad in the Agape Lodge of the OTO. So you've got, again, another Krolian connection there. That might explain a lot of things, right? If you look at Nancy Sinatra, right? Frank was not just buddies with JFK and all the top mobsters, right? Frank was actually FBI informant. So you've got, again, another counterintelligence connection.

Starting point is 01:04:52 Jimmy Stewart, right? So Jimmy Stewart has access to the Laurel Canyon Studios. He's out there filming all these propaganda videos. He's out there filming all these propaganda videos. You can look up FBI propaganda videos. He was also FBI informant, right? So at the time of the Laurel Canyon scene, right, this is the most cutting-edge movie studio in the 50s and 60s, in all of LA Hollywood, because it's the Air Force's movie series, if they film the Trinity Blast, right? So the Newt blast, the Trinity, that's all filmed by the Lurlurnenenec, the Lural the Luril the Lurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlurlur. th. th. th. th. I. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I's, thi, th. I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, the movie, th. And, the, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, t, tta. tta. tta. tta. tta. ttau. ttau. ttau. ttau. ttax. ttax. together, together, the, they. they. together, the, the, the, the, the, together, the, the, the, tha. together, together, the Trinity blast, right? So the nuke blast, the trun, that's all filmed by Laurel Canyon stuff, right, by the Air Force.

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Starting point is 01:06:01 which was part of the M.K. His dad was a bio warfare agent chemical engineer. His dad literally created bio warfare agents, including STP, which is the like really super dangerous hallucinogen that Owlsley Stanley, who is the actual CIA point man. I mean, he's above like Leary. Larry was connected to the CIA and was handing out LSD, but the real godfather of this is a guy named Auxley Stanley who worked with the Grateful Bed in passing out 4 million tabs of LSD. Yeah, man.

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Starting point is 01:07:15 I mean, Sarah Silverman's family, very high up in the Israeli military. Nick Crowell's father is fucking part of the Black Cube, I believe it's called Black Cube Intelligence. I mean like, dude, it's insane man. Peretti's old money, bro, you all look up money, look up Peretti's, old money, man. And these other people are all just like white people style, you know, it's just like I'm so tired of racism and sexism and all this stuff. And it's just like it is exactly the same as the counterculture man. And what did what did Malcolm X and the Unabomber both say the most dangerous animal on the planet is a white liberal because they are putting on the persona of rally against the machine when they're fully 100% a part of that machine and they make us all fight with each other

Starting point is 01:08:15 why they're cash and checks behind behind like fucking you know like like gated communities man. Unbelievable, dude. Yeah, it's a giant scam. It's basically just a bunch of con artists, right? Like, so here's some crazy shit. Mark David Chapman, so a couple weeks before he did what he did to John Lennon, he met with Kenneth Anger, the Luciferian, Crowley and avant-garde filmmaker, right, who made all those weird luciferizing with Mick Jagger and all that stuff.

Starting point is 01:08:54 And by the way, also has people from the Manson, like Bobby Bozolet is in, or is it, it's either Tex Watson or Bobby Bosolay that's in some of the anger films. So, Mark David Chattman meets with Kenneth Anger two weeks before the shooting at the Dakota building and he gives bullets, like unfired bullets as a gift to Kenneth Anger. That's pretty crazy. And the suspicions that there's again this connection to this higher level, a cult type of thing that seems to connect a lot of the serial killers and a lot of the mob hits and contract killings and even the killing of people like Mark David Chapman.

Starting point is 01:09:34 That's excuse me, of John Lennon. They also said that the dormant at Lenin's building was a plant too, a CIA plant. And what you see in these high level vents, when they're done correctly, they have every, the everybody is like basically, it's like a John Wick movie, right? When John Wick, it's all planned out, exactly. Every, everything, everybody in that, in that plaza where John Wick is walking through, it's an assassin. like that's the JFK.K. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, it's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th., everybody in that plaza where John Wick is walking through is an assassin. Like that's the JFK assassination.

Starting point is 01:10:11 Everybody's there. So when John Lennon gets taken down, the door guy is a CIA. When Malcolm Max gets murdered, the famous picture of the guy giving him mouth to mout he is an undercover cop so undercover that they don't take an oath. That they're part of the elite squad done to infiltrate counterculture groups. So what do you guys are shady's fuck? That's what I'm saying. Johnny didn't make eye contact. Johnny. I'm making eye contact on the monitor.

Starting point is 01:10:42 Johnny, you've been called my handler before. Just know that. Yeah, I don't think you'd let yourself be the the the the the the the the been called my handler before, just know that. Yeah, I don't think you'd let yourself be handled. I gotta say that you'd buck this system. You know, likes to get handled to the Watson, to Sean Watson, that guy likes to get handled a lot. Like, find one chick to give you a hand job, stick with her dude. Don't get 30 chicks to give you the thirty chicks. Ticks. T Johnny, you would think that money would make you immune to those kinds of problems. No, dude, money makes you a bigger target. You see these girls cry, like, oh, yeah, they're taking that guy out. Anyways, Johnny, back where you're gonna say. I don't, I don't, I wasn't, you just to tell tell, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, you, you, tell, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you makes you make, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, took, make, make, make, tell, make, make you tell, make you tell, make you tell, make you tell, make you took, make you took, make took, make you took, make, make took, make, make, make you too, make the, make you to the, make you ma, make you to to, make you to. Do you think the mass shooters are the new serial killers? Oh dude, 100% they couldn't, they've stepped it up a little bit.

Starting point is 01:11:29 100% especially when they find him immediately. Yeah. Like immediately the guy's like... The whole story is already like crafted. Especially too when they when they kill them, you know, immediately. Oh yeah, with that, I mean it's pretty clear like. The killer had a manifesto. There's always. There's they. There's they. There's they. There's they. There's the whole is they. There's the whole. They's the whole. They's the whole. They's. They's the whole. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They's. They. They. They. They. They. They. They's. They. They. They're. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. The. They. They. They. The. They. The. They. The. the. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they when they kill them you know immediately. Oh yeah with that with I mean it's pretty clear like the killer had a manifesto. There's always this manifesto looks like a copy and pace from every other killer's manifest. How about the when you remember there was that small time during the 2016 election it was like two weeks where there was all these cop shootings and it was the exact same demographic black ex-military that blew himself up It's almost like it was like a backup plan, you know, and they just both happen to succeed Yeah, it's just all I'm a redundancy because isn't that what's more of a military way of doing things than that and having redundant plans as the human

Starting point is 01:12:17 as a human vibration says everything is a template let me ask you something jays we ended up here end up here at the end of it here, um um um um um um um um, um, um, um, um, um, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a th, as a th, as a th, as a th, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a human, as a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, as a, th, th.... th, th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, the the the thi something, Jay, we ended up here, end up here at the end of it here. Is it, like how much of the, everything we see on television in your opinion is contrived? That's a great question. I mean, I think it's all the above in the sense that sometimes the media will report an event that is maybe innocuous, it doesn't really matter. Sometimes they'll take an event as it happened and kind of spin it a little bit. Sometimes they'll take an event if it's a really important high profile event and it will be completely, literally like a siop and staged.

Starting point is 01:13:04 And then sometimes the events don't even, they're not even real at all. They're just completely fabricated news stories. And there's a long history of this in psychological warfare. I mean, if you think about military tactics, it's a lot easier to understand because military warfare tactics, it's all about deception. So that includes fake news, that includes bombardment of the enemy ta ta the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy the enemy tactics or it's all about deception. So that includes fake news, that includes you know bombardment of the enemy target population, trying to destroy their morale, all that kind of stuff

Starting point is 01:13:31 is it's pretty common place in the warfare and if we just move that over into the understanding the mass media as like mass psychological warfare, it makes a lot of sense. That's why, you know that man, I got kicked off Twitter and I don't think I'm going back and I just got to be honest with you like so much angst is gone. You've been on that kick where if I'm not wanted I'm not going to be there. Yeah and it's just like it's still there so I think they're going to give it back to me and I'm thinking about getting my friend Robin just run my social media for just promotion. Just here's my podcast here's my gigs here and not not getting into that anymore because it's like have you ever gone to like what's trending on Twitter it's every psychological operation they're running

Starting point is 01:14:19 you know yes 100% you know Johnny do you have something to say I just wonder if can you resist can you resist can you It's hard dude because I love tee and off on people it gets me but I know what you're gonna see something really stupid and you know you know somebody saying that they they think vaccine passports are you know not fascist possibly and then you're uh yeah yeah you're just gonna have to go in and it not nothing you tweet, it's always your replies to someone's bullshit. Yeah, yeah, like go fuck your shelf. Maybe I shouldn't say that. That should be a golden rule not to tell you. Maybe, maybe one C word, like a week. No, you can't say C word at all. Really? You cannot say the the the the the word. seen as meany, right? Well, it's gendered language, Sam. Yeah, I mean, but there's nothing a woman can call a man

Starting point is 01:15:07 that gets her automatically kicked off. You gotta be black. You can say the n-word, but you have to be a black guy. Yeah, it's just, it's just so ridiculous, dude. I saw this fight between black gays, on, on, on, uh, broken sand dude just N-BOMs flowing, dude. I mean, so many M-BOMs, a clan rally would get uncomfortable with the amount of N-Boms that these people are calling each other. But it's like, hey man, that's the world we live in.

Starting point is 01:15:37 All right guys, this has been Jay. Can you please tell our listeners where they can find you and what you want to promote, man, you crushed it. This it. This it. This it. This is this. This is this is this is this is this is this is this is th. This is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this is thi. thi. this is this is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. I is is is th. th. I is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. toeeea. toea. toe toe toean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toea. toe. the. th find you and what you want to promote man you crushed it this has been a great episode absolutely man I was yeah it's always great talking to you you guys are a lot of fun it's one of the coolest podcasts out there I love coming on here so yeah you if you want to find my materials you can go to Jason Alsace dot com and that's all my lectures and articles and essays and kind of the back catalog. You can subscribe there. Also now on Rockfin, definitely want to promote that Rockfin.

Starting point is 01:16:08 I'm loving it over there. So you can find me there under Jay Dyer. And then of course on social media, it's Jay-Dyer as well. So be sure and follow me there. If you want my book there. One of the best of the business, dude, there's a reason why you're on Info Wars because you're fucking great. When you remember all these names and these books, I'm like, yep, I can't do that, dude. Jay, thank you for coming out.

Starting point is 01:16:37 We love having you on. I love you, Johnny. Thank you guys so much. I hope to see you in Austin this weekend. Thank you so much. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 01:17:01 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind.

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