Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #452: The Conspiracy Of Medical Science Censorship with Dr. Andrew Wakefield

Episode Date: May 20, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:29 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just put my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? And... Okay, do it again. Good morning, Swarm! And welcome to Tim Fall Hat.
Starting point is 00:00:53 You know I am? You know what I'm here to do? I'm here to. Rock. Guys, uh, join me as always, my partner in crime, Xavier Guerrero. What's up. And on the ones and two's the myth, the the the the the the legend, the legend, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, is, is, is tho, thi, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, twos the man, the myth, the legend. Johnny Woodard. Is it a myth or am I just really that fabulous? It is a myth. Trust me, it is a myth.
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Starting point is 00:03:51 contact I think it's so important that I want to get it out to the masses. And this is one of these episodes, okay? I had Dr. Andrew Wakefield on and he is one of the first doctors to basically signal the horns that there's something going on with vaccines is one of the greatest conversations I've ever had and I'm honored it was a daily dose I did on Rockfin but now I want to release to the masses and I want you guys to check it out. This guy sacrifice everything in his life to get out the word about how dangerous vaccines could be. He lost everything and he's truly a saint man and it's a honor to talk to him and this is probably one the best conversations I've ever had so please enjoy this conversation I had with Dr. Andrew
Starting point is 00:04:40 Wake. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm very excited about having our next guest on. He is a independent researcher. He's a filmmaker and he's here to talk to us about the history and just about the history of the pharmaceutical industry. I'm very excited to have a, please welcome Dr. Andrew Wakefield. Andy, how are you?
Starting point is 00:05:04 So, I'm great. Thanks very much for having. Please welcome Dr. Andrew Wakefield. Andy, how are you? Sam, I'm great, thanks very much for having me. I'm a great pleasure to be with you. It's an honor and it's a privilege. Thank you so much for our guests, our listeners who may not be familiar with you, could you tell us a little bit about you and your background? Absolutely, and it's very unlikely your listeners will know anything about me. So here goes, obviously I'm not from, I'm British and I live, at the moment I live on a sailboat, I'm down in the Florida Keys,
Starting point is 00:05:31 it wasn't always that way. I graduated in medicine in London in 1981, long time ago. And I was entirely mainstream. I was one of the sixth generation of my family to graduate from St. Mary's Hospital Medical School where penicillin was discovered, among other things. And I was mainstream. I trained as a surgeon, and I ran a big research team at a hospital called the Royal Free Hospital in London University Teaching Hospital. And my interests were Crohn's disease and ulcertitis. And then in May of 2000, sorry, 1995, I got a call from my mother who said, Dr. My child was absolutely fine until he had a vaccine, his measles mumps throughlla, MMR vaccine. And then he disappeared.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He had speech language. He was thriving. He was doing well. He was healthy. He was perfectly normal. I'm not anti-vaccine. I took my kid to be vaccinated on time. And he disappeared.
Starting point is 00:06:37 The lights in his eyes went out. He had a seizure. When he woke up, he was never never the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the was never the same again. He didn't socialize, he didn't interact with his sibling, he'd lost all the words he'd gained and ultimately he was diagnosed with autism and I said how about the kite I've got to stop you. I'm a gastrointestinal toolyst. When I was at medical school, autism was so rare we weren't even taught about it. So how can I possibly help? She said the reason I'm calling you doctor thur, is is is is is is is is is is the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor to the doctor to the doctor to the doctor'm calling you doctor is that my child has terrible gastrointestinal problems, pain, bloating, failure to thrive, diarrhea, and the doctors just say, oh, that's
Starting point is 00:07:12 part of autism, put him in a home, forget about him, have another baby. I mean, it was astonishing. It was a real confrontation with medicine in a sort of neanderthal. it was terrible, it was awful, and I thought that this cannot be right. What this mother is telling me needs to be investigated. That's the way I was trained in medicine. You put the patient above all other considerations, you invest in their story to get to the bottom of what's wrong with them or their child. And so I put together a very prominent research team tee tee tee tee tee tee tee tee tee to the bottom of what's wrong with them or their child. And so I put together a very prominent, eminent research team, and we investigated these children and the mother was absolutely right. The child had his inflammatory bowel disease.
Starting point is 00:07:58 She said, Doctor, there's an epidemic of this particular problem, and I started getting a flood of calls calls and we treated this child as we would treat, let's say, prone inflammation and not only did the bowel symptoms get better, the diarrhea, the child started thriving and growing and eating, but the autism got better as well, and that was fascinating. The child started using words they hadn't used for five years. I mean, it was extraordinary. And so we thought as words they hadn't used for five years. I mean, it was extraordinary. And so we thought as academics, that didn't happen. So we did it 183 times and 183 children. It happened virtually every time. And so at that stage, we just said, wow, this is
Starting point is 00:08:37 real. And I felt I had to take the parent's story about vaccine very, very seriously. My colleagues didn't want to do it. They said to me, Andy, as, as, as, as, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, th th tho, tho, as tho, as tho, as tho, as tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi that that that that that that that thateeaa. tha tha thatea that thatea, thate thate thattake the parent's story about vaccine very, very seriously. My colleagues didn't want to do it. They said to me, Andy, as pediatricians, we cannot be seen to question the safety of MMR vaccine. Well, that didn't make any sense to me at all. That wasn't science, that wasn't good medicine. That was about respectability. That was vanity. What were my colleagues think of me if I questioned vaccine safety? That, you know, that made me very angry.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And I decided that I would investigate this. And that's what I did. And the dean of the medical school said to me, if you pursue this vaccine safety research, it is not going to be good for your career. There was a thinly veiled threat, and he was absolutely right. And when you offended, the pharmaceutical the pharmaceutical the pharmaceutical the pharmaceutical, thinly rail threat and he was absolutely right. And when you offend the pharmaceutical industry, when you offend government policy as well in this case, you're taking on these huge, huge interests, and there was me.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And then there was the World Health Organization and the government and the drug companies and the CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics and the, and I was, boom. And they got, Rupert Murdoch got his son onto the board of Glaxo Smith-Cline as an executive director, and his job was to come after me and he did and that was the end of my medical career and I moved to America in political and professional exile they called me everything is that I committed fraud that I cheated that I lied I mean the usual yeah brother I got to be honest, man. I owe you a giant apology. When I came on with you, I hadn't placed who you were, and now I know who you are.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And man, I'm honored to talk to you, man. I'm really honored, I kind of want to cry, because, you know, when I put your name into the Google, because I'm like, hold on this dude is. And I see, and like what they're saying about you on Google is so upsetting to me because I know what you've done dude and I like I can't tell you how much I respect you man and like what you've done and like your fight and it's like what you represent is like what people think doctors really are. And what you fought is like what the medical community really is.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And that to me is insanity. And the sl sl sl that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho tho tho that is that is that, I that, I that, I tho that, I that, I that that that you're you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that is that is that is that is that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I know, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, really is. And that to me is insanity. Like in the slander that you're getting when you put into Google is just unbelievable to me, man. It's unbelievable to me. And I have children, ma'am, and I, you know, and just the way when my babies were born, they wanted to hit my daughters with a hep B vaccination, which is like a party drug vaccine, like, like, a, like, a, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, with a Hep B vaccination, which is like a party drug vaccine, like disease for people who are in like adult party scenes. And it's just like why? And so I go to my pediatrician, I go, why are we hitting these, these tiny little people who
Starting point is 00:11:41 just taken their first breath with a vaccine that people, mostly men who do drugs, whether it's crystal meth, cocaine, poppers and all that stuff, they get a disease they get wise and she had no answer for it, man. So when I hear what you've gone through because I've seen movies and stories on it, man, my heart feels for you and I'm so thankful that you're on the show and I owe you in a giant apology for not realizing it at first. So thank you for coming on.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm very thankful, Mark, booked you. I wish everybody could hear your story, man, because it is not easy to go through what you went through, to go through this. And like, I'm doing, even have any kind of comparison to what you're going through and what I go through is just disrespectful and I'm not meaning to be, but it's like I kind of am someone who is in the truth community as well. And I've been somewhat excommunicated from my fellow comedians in Los Angeles. Like, I don't get invited to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to let to let to let to let to let to let to let to let to let the the loud the loud. to to to their. their. their. their. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. to. to. th. th. th. to. the. the. the. the the the the the the Angeles. Like I don't get invited to anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:46 They don't, they don't want to allow Rudolph to play in their reindeer games. So I am like, even though it's not in close what you're going through. And I'm not trying to be disrespectful like that, but I can understand what you, what you are going through. And that's what people don't understand. It's like whenever they always cite studies all the time. And my question is like, oh, trust the science? I go, okay, we can trust science if you want. I don't trust the scientists.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And that doesn't mean they're bad people. But it's like, who is funding these studies? And what findings help those people funding the studies. And that is a giant part of not just science, but academia, right? It's like to have your boss come to you and say, hey man, if you start pursuing this thing, your career is done. That's happening professors all over the place. If they don't put this certain agenda in their teachings, there's no place to them on campus.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And we see that happen all the time. And for that, I really gotta tell you, man, I am so honored to have you on the show and thank you for coming on here. And you know, I have- Thank you very, And you know what, there was a time when it was dark. It was really dark because there's nothing you can do. What people need to understand out there when they say, oh, we Google this guy and there's
Starting point is 00:14:13 nothing you can do about Google. If you go to Wikipedia, you can't, I can't edit it to make it factually correct. I'm blocked from editing what they say about me on Wikipedia. So you've got to, one has just got to move on, get over that. And one thing I realized that made my journey much, much easier is that it's not about me. They make it look like it's about me. They make me out to be this villain. They destroy my career, but it's not about me at all. It's about something far more important. It's like the mafia assassinating you and say, hey, this is nothing personal. You know, you're just doing, you're getting in the way of what we're
Starting point is 00:14:55 trying to achieve here. And that's what it is. You're threatening their bottom line with the pharmaceutical companies, there is no price you won't pay. So if people want to come to their own conclusions based on Wikipedia, okay, that's fine. But don't feel, you know, thank you for your comments, but for me, it's been a privilege to do this. I had to make a choice. Years ago, I had a choice to make. Do I work for the drug companies and the public health policy makers, or do I work for that little kid sitting across the table from me whose life has been taken away from it, destroyed. That was an easy one. That's, I work for that child. And there's unambiguous, unequivocal, there's no, there's no ambiguity about it, that's
Starting point is 00:15:38 what I do. And so that's, it's been a privilege to do it. And what happened over the years is because of the position I take, a lot of people came to me from industry or from government agencies responsible for vaccine safety monitoring like the CDC, like the FDA, and they said, well, we can trust you, we have done something really, really bad and here's the evidence. And hand over this extraordinary evidence. So at the end of all of this, when, when, when, when, when, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi, and a thi, and a the the thi, and a thi, and a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot a th, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a thi, and a lot of the of the of the of the of the. the. And a lot of the of thea the evidence. And hand over this extraordinary evidence. So at the end of all of this, when my career finally came to end, in medicine, I had this, these extraordinary stories.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And I thought, okay, I am now going to become a filmmaker. I'm going to turn these stories into movies. I'm going to become your worst enemy. I'm going to make you accountable in the public eye. And that's what I did. And now I've made three movies just about to start the fourth. I love what I do and that's what I do. I expose the wrongdoing. The true, what they've actually done. And I just deliver facts. I don't deal with the conspiracy theory. I deal with facts. I present the public with the facts and I've never been sued because they can't sue me because they are terrified
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Starting point is 00:19:47 The information of what is happening is there. And the history of these pharmaceutical companies being sued constantly for what they've done to people. The history of pharmaceuticals, the dark arts that are involved in pharmaceuticals. And like, if I told you that, hey, the dark arts that are involved in pharmaceuticals. And like, if I told you that, hey, these drug cartels are, if you get in their way, they'll whack you. They'll take you right out, kind of like you said earlier.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Everyone's like, yeah, dude, they're brutal. They're violent. They don't care. I go, then why wouldn't a legal cartel do the same thing with profits? Why is it that when people have a lab code on, suddenly the drugs they're pushing is any safer? I mean, the only thing that matters sadly, sadly is profits. And it's really sad that nobody realizes what is being done. And I don't know what happened in the last, like I'd say 10 years, but this push to like, not protect children is just unbelievable to me across the board. Whether it's spiritually, culturally, physically, it's just, it just seems like we're just, we're just throwing children out for profits right now.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And it's, it's, it's, it's maddening as somebody who brought children into the world recently and is dealing with this society, what's going on in society right now. What I want to talk to you about is the history of pharmaceuticals. Do you have any thoughts on that, where it's come from, who's involved with it, and how that kind of plays out and what's happening today? I think, well, there's no question, there's no ambiguity. You know, the current pharmacological model of medicine, we will treat things with drugs and we'll treat lot of money and we will control because we can. What happened? This came about because of the Rockefeller's. They, you know, they took
Starting point is 00:21:51 over medical training in America and that became the dominant force. And there's no, you know, this isn't conspiracy. There is just a simple fact. They controlled medical education. Medical education is now controlled largely by pharmaceutical companies. And the initiative is behind developing more drugs, making more money, making people dependent on pharmacology that they've generated. And it's an absolute disaster. It's squanders the greatest resource we have, and that is the body's inate ability to heal itself. And coming back to that point you made about the, what don't people get about the drug company?
Starting point is 00:22:33 It's it is a little story for you that just captures it perfectly. This is a story about Merck, major American drug manufacturer, made a vaccine manufacturer as well. And they made a drug called Vioxx, which was an anti-inflammatory medication. And when they came to license it with the FDA, they withheld the fact that they knew it was causing heart attacks and strokes in people. They withheld that information deliberately.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Then there were doctors who started to point out the hazards of Vioxx and in the Australian litigation that ultimately took place where Merck were sued for the some 500,000 people that it was estimated died from heart attacks and strokes from that drug, Merck knowing that it was causing those problems. There were a series of internal documents from Merck that were bought to light in the Australian courts. And it was about we need to isolate these doctors who criticized this drug. We need to, we need to compromise their careers. And then the last thing that was read out, the last internal email from one Merck executive to another said, we may have to seek them. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to their their their to their to their their their their their their their their their their that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that were that were that were that were that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, their their their their their their their theirc, their their their their their their taxxxx, their their thexxxxxexexexexexexexexexexeck. that that that the. that that thing that was read out, the last internal email from one work executive to another said, we may have to seek them out and destroy them
Starting point is 00:23:52 where they live. So that is corporate policy. That's what it said. That is the mindset of a major pharmaceutical company, and they are all the same, believe me. And we only need to look at the mindset of a major pharmaceutical company and they are all the same, believe me. And we only need to look at the opioid crisis in the United States of America to realize that that is the case. So if anyone has any doubts about who they're dealing with, please just wake up. I mean, if we just even, I mean, we're in this country, we have this push for to eliminate college debt. Now, ultimately, I don't have a problem with that. I don't, but nobody's talking about eliminating the debt that our doctors take in when they graduate
Starting point is 00:24:44 from med school. And to me, that debt doctors take in when they graduate from med school. And to me, that debt is purposely done to control people the minute they step out of college or med school. So now you're walking out with $300,000 in debt, $500,000 in debt, and they want their money, man. There is not a lot of options out there. Because when you have that much debt, and that, and they want that debt, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and the debt, and that debt, the debt, and that debt, the debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, that debt, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the, the, that debt, that debt, that debt, that that that debt, that debt, that that debt, that that debt, the the the theat, the, the, the, th, and they want their money, man, there is not a lot of options out there. Because when you have that much debt and they want their money quickly, you've got to get a job quick. It's very hard to start your own practice when you're that deep into debt,
Starting point is 00:25:17 and when you're at their jobs and their facilities, you better do what they tell you to do. They're making it so, it so, it so, it so, it so hard hard hard hard hard hard so, it so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th so hard th th thi thi thi thi thi, it so hard thi, it's tho, it's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. thi. tell you to do. They're making it so, it's so hard to become a doctor that people who want to be a doctor are now just going to Wall Street and try to make money in that. And what they're now trying to do is push that nurses will take care of you and diagnose you by going to a computer and putting in symptoms, blah, and this computer will push out what medication you need. And that has eliminated any kind of human experience, any kind of education from the decision of what you are going to put in your body.
Starting point is 00:25:58 This is now just a pharmaceutical company giving you your drugs. And to me, that is super duper dangerous very dangerous. Edfin is about being with a patient laying your hands on a patient. We used to say during my years of training if in doubt examine the patient. You know it was a slightly stomach and cheek but that's what it was you that's where the clues as to what the origin of their disease comes from. How can you possibly make a diagnosis on a patient by computer? It's it's fraught with hazard. It really is. Yeah, I have great, grave misgiving.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And one thing that your point about debt to doctors is absolutely right. And what we, I had a pediatrician recently who testified before the state legislature as to why he'd given up vaccinated his children in his practice. He said, when I did that, I lost $700,000 a year in income. That was the bonus that he made from meeting vaccine targets. There's the incentive. So if you're looking to pay off that huge medical school debt, who is going to turn down $700,000 a year? So when your doctors have no answer for the question about why your child was going to get
Starting point is 00:27:24 hepatitis B vaccine on day one of life, to the question about why your child was going to get hepatitis B vaccine on day one of life. There was the answer. They had to meet vaccine targets to make the money. And it's so funny when we talk about that with law enforcement and tickets, everybody loses their skull. Oh, you can't, do you can have a minimum requirement of tickets given out? That's illegal. But when you talk about this with vaccines, people don't want to hear about it. People just don't want to hear about it. And it just blows my mind because it's so important to what we do. And just the entire just misinformation campaign about what's going on with this vaccine.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And all that stuff. And what, what this new vaccine represents, they're their their their their their their their th, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. People, th. People th. People th. People, th. People, th. People, th. People, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, this new vaccine represents. They're talking DNA splicing and all that stuff. But the notion, like when I mean, I'm 48 years old, the amount of vaccines I took when I was really young, I think I took three. Now it's like, what is it up to like, it seems like 15? I would spend 72 doses by the time you graduate high school 72 doses it's it's unbelievable and that's without COVID vaccine 72 doses hey everybody want to tell you about our new sponsor TBO
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Starting point is 00:30:04 which makes it contributes to subtaining the environment, okay? Do it a lot of great stuff. So here's what TBO is offering, okay? Get 20% off your next purchase at TBOBodyware.com, that's TBOBWR dotcom and use the promo code tin foil. Okay, that's T-B-O bodywear.com promo code tinfoil. I mean, I don't know how conspiratorial you want to get, but like if you just even look at the history of the pharmaceutical companies, like World War I, a lot of that was about trying to get the pharmaceutical companies out of Germany because they were competing with the British pharmaceutical companies and they didn't want that to get it out of to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the to the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their the th.com. their their their tho. tho. tho. tho. tom. tom. tom. tom. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tom.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com.com. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today.com. today. today.com about trying to get the pharmaceutical companies out of Germany because they were competing with the British pharmaceutical companies and they didn't want that to get it out of Germany and over to the United States and then just who's involved with all that stuff and the
Starting point is 00:30:56 amount of money being made and it's just unbelievable to me how like, I mean, people think that the mean drug dealers are the ones on the corner man. It's the ones in the board. the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board the board th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And tho thi tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the the the the that the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that that th think that the mean drug dealers are the ones on the corner man. It's the ones in the boardroom. They're causing so much chaos. Yeah, well, the big boost for the pharmaceutical companies in terms of vaccines. And this is the subject of our latest movie, the 1986, the the Reagan government signed a bill, the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which took the the the the th th th th th th thi thi, it it is took thi, it is thi, it is thi, it is thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, it was thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it, it, it, it, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, the act came about in 1986 when the Reagan government signed a bill the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act which took away liability for death and damage caused by vaccines, childhood vaccines recommended on the on the CDC schedule. So beyond that point, what you've got a picture is they have a mandatory market. Kids have got to get vaccinated to go to school
Starting point is 00:31:45 and they've got no liability, no downside. All they can do is make a massive profit. And that's what they did. And when they realized that they could make, all they could do was profit, the perfect business model. They expanded the vaccine program dramatically. So it went from what you had to what it is to today 72
Starting point is 00:32:05 doses by the age of 18. And they just made a fortune. And the danger is with that is making a fortune made them very, very powerful. At that stage, they bought the media, they bought politicians, they bought policy, they wrote policy, they bought medical training, they bought the regulators, they bought the FDA, they bought the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha, tha, tha, thining, they bought the regulators, they bought the FDA, they bought the CDC, they owned everything. The one thing they don't own, the hearts and minds of the American people, and that's what they must never come to own. And that's why he shows like yours so important. So the message has got to get out there because people at the moment are experimental subjects. They're guinea pigs in a huge they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're the FDA. They're they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the thi the the the the the the thi out there because people at the moment are experimental subjects.
Starting point is 00:32:45 They're guinea pigs in a huge experiment and they don't realize it. They're just so frightened. They've been coerced into believing that Tony Fatchey and the CDC are there for their good and we'll make it all right. No, they will not. We're looking at Jurassic Park that's just about to escape the island, I'm afraid. And it's very interesting because, you know, what we saw like with the George Bush administration with war, we saw these neocons, and they became known as war criminals, even though they're allowed to walk freely, Dr. Fauci has been involved in some just war crimes against humanity. And, you know, I mean, I don't want to be crude or anything, but I've been told he's been referred to as the Hitler of AIDS,
Starting point is 00:33:32 where it's just like his role in the drug used for the AIDS virus, led to so many deaths because they had AZT, it was originally a cancer, it was a drug to battle cancer, but it was so toxic that it was actually doing way more damage than any good. So they had to shelf it, so that they had this drug that they spent all this money on just sitting on the shelf. So they had to figure out a way to induce it back, introduce it back into society. And based on all of the, the, you know, based on all of the research done by many
Starting point is 00:34:17 different doctors, that wasn't the drug to use, but that's what Dr. Fowlge wanted, and he actually did to what he did what was done to you, which he demonized them, got them thrown, them, to, they they they they they they they they they they the drug to use, but that's what Dr. Fowlge wanted. And he actually did to some doctors what he did, what was done to you, which he demonized them, got them thrown in jail, tried to sue them. And we lost so many people that we love because of that. Have you heard of that belief on? Absolutely. Many, many, many, many of the early deaths, te, the, thes, thes, thes, thes, thes, thes, thes, thes, thes, the deaths, thes, thes, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to of the early deaths from the so-called AIDS epidemic were caused by high-dose AZT. I mean, it was the basis of the movie the Dallas Bioners Club in many ways.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And that came about because they used indiscriminately large doses which caused major, major complications, major immunodeficiency. And now mortality from AIDS, from HIV infection is caused major major complications, major immunodeficiency. And now mortality from AIDS from HIV infection is gone. You don't hear that. It's gone. And that's largely, I think, because they've clearly improved the medication, but a large part of that improvement has been to dramatically reduce the doses of toxic drugs like AZT.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It certainly hasn't come about because any successful vaccine has been produced. So I think Trouchy has a number of things to be that he's answerable for and one is why would you withhold known life-saving therapist like Ivermectin and hydroxychlorquin from people in favor of a vaccine and vaccinomi agenda. That is manslaughter at the very least. And absolutely unacceptable. And the problem is that the reason that it's done that you can't get an emergency use
Starting point is 00:35:58 authorization for a vaccine, which is what they got if you have a drug which is an effective therapeutic. And so they couldn't acknowledge that either mectin or hydroxychlorquin were effective therapeutics because that would have got in the way of their emergency use authorization for the vaccine. And that's a race. This is lobbying by the pharmaceutical companies to the max to push their own agenda and people are dying as a consequence. So, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th. And their, th. And th. And th. companies to the max to push their own agenda and people are dying as a consequence.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So, and the trouchy's role in the origins of this. I saw Rand Paul grilling him the other day at a Senate committee hearing and he denied being involved in deliberately mutating the coronaviruses and gain of function studies in Wuhan funded by the NIH. And then he, in the next breath, he said, let me tell you, Dr. Paul, why we had to do that work. No other way he's submitting to David. And I, it was astonishing.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Anyway, there are a lot of questions that need to be answered by Dr. Fowtie. And there's so, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, there, there, there, there, there, there, that need to be answered by Dr. Fetchum. And there's so, I mean, like, obviously you understand vaccines and their thing, but so much of this stuff is like a vent to a one, this kind of role-playing stuff that they're doing scenarios on how this would be rolled down and stuff like that, and Bill Gates's role in all that. What is your take on Bill Gates, what he represents, what he's trying to pass himself off as, and who he really is? It's astonishing me to me that a man with no qualifications whatsoever should be in charge of global health policy and individual health costs. I, Bill Gates actually referred to me on television as
Starting point is 00:37:48 a child killer so I have a particular dawned view of Bill Gates but I think he's a extraordinarily dangerous man. This kind of person you would write movies about and people would say well fortunately that can't happen in real life. He's a Lex,s, he's trying to be a Lex Luthor. Yeah, it really does remind me of that kind of evil giant at the top of the mountain in his lair, reigning pain and suffering down on mankind. Well, one thing that I've got a question, Sam, and that is why is it, why is it that Hollywood is so seemingly misaligned on this issue? Why have you been ostracized for actually having the concerns you do? What is the mindset of Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Well, you know, it's, it's to me, me it's just it's a combination of conformist. You know, in a weird way, you know, and I don't want to do this service to your story because it is quite sad. I mean, it's, it angers me, man. But, like, to make it in Hollywood, there's so many levels that you have to get a green light on. And if you just get one level where you just catch somebody who sees politically different than you, you can get a red light. And they'll be like, no, I don't want to work. And then you never work.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And you see a lot of that. And on top of that, there are a lot of people who want to portray themselves as outsiders, as punk rockers, and all this stuff in reality, they all went to the same schools and they're all friends. And it's very easy to push a narrative when everybody's going, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Isn't that great? But how much of it will actually affect you? And that's my whole thing. That's why they're pushing kind of this crazy politics on everybody because they're from a level that is above the fray in my honest opinion.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So is a combination of conformantism, it's a combination of not wanting to get somebody to say, no you can't be on the show. And it's a th is a little a little th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to get somebody to say, no, you can't be on the show. And it's a little bit of being above the fray. And, you know, I've been talking a lot about this on the show. We are, you know, this, whatever you want to say about COVID and all that stuff, one thing it has done is it's really allowed you about like truth to power and who's just playing a role in the game. And you see that like how many of our entertainers have, we're all raging against the machine. And then when this stuff hits, they were just, you know, stepping in the line and following the rules and pushing, you know, the authority line. I saw that email from Eric Clapton just today.
Starting point is 00:40:47 That's fascinating. I don't know whether you saw that. And he got the vaccine. He got the COVID vaccine and he said, worst thing I ever did. He said, I've now got a peripheral neuropathy. He said, you know, tingling in my fingers. I said, I wonder if I'll ever play the guitar. He said, I just shouldn't have touched that vaccine.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And he, he was that kind of thing. He could he conformed. There is a guy who's ostensibly, you know, he's ex-alcoholic, ex-drug addict, recovered, with a lot of help, very honest about it. And then he does that, and he lives to regret it. He's thinking, why did I do that? Now I've got some complication that means I may not do the thing that I really love above other things and I just I see stories like this every single day about the
Starting point is 00:41:36 complications. The sheer number of deaths occurring on the vaccine adverse events reporting system, you know, of 5,000, 6,000 deaths from these vaccines. It far exceeds all of the deaths. We've seen every other vaccine added together. Over the 20 years, 30 years of this vaccine adverse events reporting system has been there. It's been a flat line like this, a consistent number of deaths for annum, and then suddenly, boom, it's gone through the roof with this one. If that had happened with a mainstream drug, it would have been pulled from the market right away, gone.
Starting point is 00:42:13 But this has become too big to fail. So yeah, we can accept a whole bunch of deaths because we've got a lot of investing vaccine. Well, I want to get into, when did you realize something was up? I mean, you know, again, I have a conspiracy show. We talked a lot about when this thing first started, those videos from China,
Starting point is 00:42:36 showing people falling in the streets, either passing out or dying. And, you know, when you take a look at that, you know, some people want to be like, well, w w W W., thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th.. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, th. thin, th. th. th. th. thin, too. too. too. too. too. too. to, to, to, th. to,, when you take a look at that, you know, some people want to be like, well, those were leaked out, but I'm like, we haven't seen anything like that anywhere in the year that we've been affected. So what does those videos represent? And for me, it was like the beginning of what I call, you know, we talk about abundance versus scarcity and how the powers that be leverage death against the scarcity of life, right? Oh, if you don't do this, you're going to die and you
Starting point is 00:43:14 only have so many days alive. You better do this because you want to keep, you got to enjoy every day you can because you only have one run at this and that's a whole different discussion. But, you know, when you show those videos and people are falling on the ground.... the ground. the ground. the ground.. The the ground. The the ground. The the ground. The the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the power. The power. The power. The power the power the power. The power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the power. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. tho. tho thea. tho the. the. the the. the power the power the power a whole different discussion. But you know when you show those videos and people are falling on the ground, did you see those videos and what you think about that when you saw that happen? I just thought really for a coronavirus for a common cold but I don't think so. I mean no I you know that I just I yeah I know I know I was the first I was when I was in London I was working with a guy who used to be a hacker an Uber hacker at MI5 the British Secret Service he was he was like
Starting point is 00:43:59 that that guy in Jurassic Park who sits there and fills on the computer and brings the whole security system down, you know, and he was, he could hack into anything at any time, any place, okay? And he left the service and he had a minder and the minder knows your signature and how you get into things and follows you and keeps an eye on you, okay? He came into work one day and he said, you know that virus that's come from the Far East? He said, SARS, whatever it is, he said, that occurred, that was an earthquake in central China, damaged a bio-weapons facility and that virus leaked down. And he had no reason to tell me this. It's not what the work we were doing,
Starting point is 00:44:41 it was just, he was hacking away and looking at things. And the the work we were doing and that's to do with it at all. It was just he was hacking away and looking at things he shouldn't have been looking at. Anyway, his minder then called and said you will forget everything you just saw and never mentioned it again. And so there was, so when this one came out, when the COVID-19, evident pandemic broke. I thought, okay, here we go again. Same Chinese story and then they'd come out with this balani about it coming from a market, just found the road from the bio-weapons facility. No, really? Oh, really? That's an interesting story. No, I don't believe that. And so I'm afraid I've become, when did I first start to see the way things really were? I think the response the response of my colleagues that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that th really, th really, that th really that th really that th really that that th really that th really th really that that that that that that that that that thi thi thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, th. th. th. their, th. their their their their their thi their their their thi thi thi thi the the the the the the thean thean thean thean the the the the the thean. their their their their their the way things really were. I think the response of my colleagues, that's what really shot me. When the dean said to me you've got to stop this
Starting point is 00:45:32 worker it's not going to be good for your career. The problem with me as a surgeon it kind of made me want to do it twice as hard. Yeah, yeah, I came to the medicine to care for them, not for, you know, don't threaten me... me me. me me. me me. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me. Don't to medicine to care for them, not for, you know, don't threaten me. And now, okay, you know, maybe that was a little... That's the way it was. And then my other colleague saying, we can't be seen to question the safety of MMR. You're precisely the people who should be seen to question the safety of MMR. You're responsible for the well-being of these children are getting it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So you better get it right, buddy. Anyway, so when that, when people started doing that, then I, then I became very concerned that what I'd gone into as medicine was not what I recognized as the you know the happening what was happening day to day in the hospital. How early how early does the what you're seeing in in your real life versus what is being told start to differ? Was it in college? I mean like let's say you have this position in college and you write this paper and what is your professor going to say? What, you know, whoever is teaching your class, what are they going to say?
Starting point is 00:46:55 Is there a moment where you're like, okay, we're getting taught this, but when I study it, I think it's something else? Or was it later on when you were in work? Was it when that lady came forward? Or did you ever have any kind of suspicions early on? Well, you know, I'll be brutally frank with you here. When I was a medical student, I had a wonderful time, okay? I spent my time chasing nurses and rugby and partying a bit until. No, hey. I had a work hard and I graduated. But I wasn't really th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, thi, thi, thi, th and rugby and partying a bit until it came time. I worked hard and I graduated.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So I wasn't really thinking too hard about these things. I had other priorities. No, hey, nothing on that there. It's out there. And then when I got serious, really serious about medicine, and then I started to see the conflict. And and I saw I used to teach medical students a lot I love teaching and I used to say to them guys half of what I tell you is right and half is wrong the problem for me is that given our current state of
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Starting point is 00:48:38 And we need to understand that. We need to have a humility to understand that that's the case. So I, when I came up against the vaccine dogma, this is what, you know, we say it's safe and effective and so therefore it's safe and effective. Well, let's get into that. So I, when the mother said MMR, Measles, Master of Vecuva vaccine is doing this. I thought if I'm going to challenge this vaccine, the safety of this vaccine, I need to go and study every single paper ever published on the pre-licensing studies. What was done? When I did that, I was a stomp, okay, because what I found
Starting point is 00:49:17 is that the experimental subjects for the vaccine, when it was first produced, were children in long-term residential homes for severely physically and mentally damaged children. Oh my God. With a good evening. And one such example was Willow Brook State School in Staten Island, New York. That's where they tested the vaccine. There was no consent, no informed consent, nothing. The kids could be used because in truth, they were considered to be expendable. And that's what we're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And when I read that, I thought, oh my God, I wasn't told that. That's not what I was told. And then they go on and they do further studies and they dismiss encephalitis and death as oh that's nothing to do with the vaccine story you hear nowadays. And I was appalled, appalled by the safety studies. And I thought I'm doing these guys in this service. There must be something I'm missing. They must have done proper science, a double blind, randomized control, clinical trial. No, absolutely not. So coming back to hepatitis B that your child was threatened with having on the first day
Starting point is 00:50:36 of life. As a parent, how long would you want that vaccine to have been tested for safety before allowing your baby to have it on the first day of life? I asked parents this question in meetings, in conferences all the time. How long would you want to say, well, we wouldn't give it anyway? And I said, okay, if you were going to give it, what do you think would be a reasonable length of safety study? They say, oh, years, a lifetime, five years, ten years? I said, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, to to their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, to th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii thi. thi And they say, oh, years, a lifetime, five years, ten years. I said, how long do you think the vaccine was studied for safety before it was licensed to be given to day old children? Five days. Five days. So if your baby died on day six, it was nothing to do with the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Was it tested in the appropriate age group before being licensed in one day old children? No. Was it tested using a placebo? Was it tested using a placebo, an inert placebo? No. There was no science. No science at all. And so that's why your pediatrician has no answer to your question, because they don't know. They have no idea. And when Reagan, when Reagan passed that law in the United States, which took away any kind of punitive lawsuits for any damage done, then it's just open the gates of hell. And there is nothing stopping them from doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:09 There's no reason for them to take any time. I mean, this thing rush. Now, now we can get into some conspiracies talk. Here, you know, there's a famous speech by Momar Gaddafi at the, you know, the UN. He talks about how there's going to be a virus. And they're gonna say they just came up with this thing, this vaccine when they've had it the whole time. And they've been preparing for this,
Starting point is 00:52:35 because you know, I know this may not be the waters in which you want to dive into, but what kind of control does this have? If I, this this, this, this, this, this, this, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, to to to to to to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the th. th. the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi.e, thi.e, tooooooooooo. toe, toe, too. toe, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. to, but what kind of control does this have? I mean, if this thing, if this vaccine is meant to be a gene splicer, and it's meant to disable your immune system, so now you have no immunity, it's reprogram your DNA, you're going to need vaccines forever. And that could be part of the process too. And then if you don't play ball, you don't get your vaccine. Now you've got to walk around in some kind of hazmat suit, something like that. Do you think that's at all a possibility? I think with viruses, anything is a possibility.
Starting point is 00:53:15 One thing I've come to learn over the years, 30 years of studying principally measle virus, but respiratory RNA viruses in great detail is I have the utmost respect for these viruses. That we cannot manipulate them in the laboratory, exploit them, exert dominion over them and assume that we're in control, we're not. They will have the last laugh. It was that wonderful scene at the beginning of Jurassic Park. You remember when they're in the lab and Sam Mender is looking at this hatching and he goes, oh my God, you've bred a velociractor.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And the Asian scientist and the white coat, the white coat says, don't worry, they're all female, they can't reproduce. And Jeff Goldblum, this chaos theory mathematician, steps in and he says, you don't understand, life will find a way. Yes. Life finds a way and that's the principle, that's the basis of that, and that is life will find a way and it may not do it but it will do it. And when it does it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they will they they will they will they they will they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it will th, it will the basis of that and that is life will find a way and it may not do it immediately but it will do it and when it does it it will exact a huge price so we have not paid these viruses due respect only that we need some of them that they're essential for our well-being and part of the viroam and microbiome that is essential for our health but that we have believed in our exquisite arrogance that we can exert dominion over the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. that th. th. th. th. th th. th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that we have believed in our exquisite arrogance that we can exert dominion over them. The man that can control, no he can't. Not a hope in hell. So I have the greatest
Starting point is 00:54:54 of respect for them and very, very respect for the people who believe that they are in control of the destiny of these viruses because they are not. No, do you have any colleagues that at one point chastised you, tried to isolate you, and then later on came to realize your position is probably correct, or went through some stuff with somebody that they had treated, and the results were disastrous, and then they came kind of to a, you know, a clarity moment. Have you ever had any of that situation happened? Yes, yes I have for various reasons. Some, let me give you one reason, one reason we played back
Starting point is 00:55:41 and we played down the Orange County. Massive audience came to watch that film. I don't know whether you remember, but it was, it got into Tribeka, yeah, story of a CDC whistleblower. It then got censored by the pharmaceutical industry interests that funded Tribecker and Robert De Niro went on the today show three days late. He went on Good Morning America and he said we should never have done that, everybody should watch this film and it exploded worldwide. We had the De Niro effect was like nothing else. And we played an orange candy and it was just packed to the gunnels. And sitting at the front row of the movie theatre, big movie
Starting point is 00:56:21 theatre on the right hand side was aian. And that pediatrician had been dragged kicking and screaming by a mother of one of his patients to this movie. And at the end of the movie he stood up and he turned to the audience and there was silence and he said, I just want to say, I am so sorry. I can never practice medicine in the same way again. And I am, I want just just just just just to just to just to just to to to to to to to to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say, to to say, to say, to to to their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theat. the. their their the same way again and I am I want just want to apologize to every parent in this room of a vaccine injured child for what I've been part of. That's the kind of reaction that you see. Some people will say it privately and don't have the courage to come out. Others sadly have experienced it themselves that they've come out and said oh, their thate that thi to the tho, I I I I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to toooooooooooo. I to to to to to to to to to to tho. I th come out. Others sadly have experienced it themselves that they've come out and said oh Wakefield's untouchable we can't go near him like I've got
Starting point is 00:57:12 leprosy and then suddenly they find themselves their own research compromised in the same way because they've gone against the grain. And then the worst tragedy of all is where their own children have been subsequently vaccinated and damaged. And those are heartbreaking, because there is the terrible realization that they, had they taken a different attitude to it, more open-minded view, they might have protected their own child from damage. And is it that they don't ever see the signs of it before that happens? Or they just, you know, I think we're getting into this place with science where it's almost becoming a religion in the way
Starting point is 00:58:03 that religion, you didn't question the holy men of your religion before, because they spoke for God. Sometimes I wonder if we're getting like that with science, where you don't want to question science because science is above the fray. And even if you have, you know, suspicions, you don't want to go up against science because science is all-knowing
Starting point is 00:58:29 and a higher evolution of thought. Yeah, it's terrifying that people should believe that science is a process of asking questions. Science is not absolute. It's never in. The game is never over. You're always asking questions. You're going up the tree rather than coming down it to the trun it, to to science, it, it, because, because, because, it, to science, to science, to science, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to science, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, to science, because to science, because to science, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to science, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the science, and the science, it's never in, the game is never over, you're always asking questions. You're going up a tree rather than coming down it to the trunk. And I was interested, I was reading a book the other day called in the wake of the black death, the plague, a bubonic plague that swept Europe and and killed a third of the population, then they must have thought the world was really coming to an end.
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Starting point is 00:59:47 stake. And we've got to ask, what is the real agenda behind us in first place? How, final question, how does a Brit enjoy the chaos of Florida? Like it seems like you're going from, you know, this like kind of very much buttoned up society to just a human safari. How is that? Well, you know, I, I, my sailing career started back in the American bicentennial year before a lot of people listening to the show were born in 1976 and I sailed in the Atlantic transatlantic tall ship race in a topsyl schooner called the summit Winston Churchill and I fell in love with life and I always wanted to live
Starting point is 01:00:35 on a boat and and the value of living on a boat is that it gives you a different perspective. I lived in Austin and I loved in Austin I drove around and I saw the city from one perspective and then I went on a boat on a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta ta ta ta ta tall. tall. tall. tall. tall. tall. tall. I was tall. I was tall. I was tall. tall. tall. tall. tal. tal. tal. tal. tal tal. tal tal. tal. tal. tal. tal. tal. tal. tal. tal. ta ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. Trans. Trans. Trans. Transatl. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. I'm. Transatlantic. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. Transatlantic. I lived in Austin, I love Austin, and Austin I drove around and I saw the city from one perspective and then I went on a boat on the on the beautiful lakes there and I saw a completely different city. It's like it wasn't even the same city I lived it. And I realized how I could get a different perspective on the same thing by just changing where I looked at it from. I so I now live on an antique sailboat called Freya, the Norse goddess of beauty and fecundity and I'll be sailing to Texas on the 21st
Starting point is 01:01:16 to make a new movie, actually. But I love it. I love it. It's kind of crazy. I mean, if I told you I loved it when I was hanging from the from the from the from the from the dabbits with my arm stuck and my bicep thorn in half like in the middle of the night thinking is this really how it all ends on the calmest night of the year. Have you really? The calmest night? And yeah, the ladder fell apart. Anyway it's a long story. There are times when you. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's kind th. It's that. It's kind th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's kind th. It's kind th. It's kind th. It's kind the. It's kind the. It's kind theeeeeeeeeeeeea. It's kind theea. It's kind thee. It's kind the. It's kind the. It's kind th. It's kind of the how embarrassing. And yeah, the ladder fell apart. Anyway, it's long story. There are times when you have to accord the sea the greatest of respect because it shows no mercy. It's so much bigger, right? It's just so much. Every day. So, okay, I said that was my,
Starting point is 01:02:00 this is my final, final question. As a man of science, are you spiritual as well? And how does someone who goes through so much science and like just understanding human body? If you're spiritual, how do those two things mesh? I think spirituality has been my salvation. I'm not, I was raised in the Church of England, I rejected organised religion at quite an early age it was austere and distant and inaccessible for me and I went through my young medical career, headlong into it, working hard, didn't really think, but I have become more and more spiritual. And it's, as I say, it's been my salvation.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I meditate, I do a lot of yoga, I, my own religious experiences, as Eric Clapton said in that letter today in the paper, you know, it's somewhat abstract, but it's, um, it's real. It's, I, it's, I realize it's, I've, I realize it's, I've, I really, it's, I, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,ay in the paper, you know, it's somewhat abstract, but it's, it's real, it's, I realize that there is an enormous energy, all is energy, but there's a huge energy to the universe which is perpetual and as a consciousness, I believe. So I, yeah, I'm becoming more enlightened and more spiritual as I get older. I am too, man, and you know, there's, I talk about us all the time, a flunk first grade man, but I've been talking to people like you and I talked to a lot of people so I get to get a lot of knowledge in my head and you know for me man, you know, the laws of physics are amazing but I also think sometimes there are box
Starting point is 01:03:56 that keep us to think in this kind of this right in here when there's some amazing stuff that's going on all around it that that you know science may not be able to explain but we feel it we understand.. th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th. And thi thi thi thi thi thi th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th th. And th. And that that that that that thi that thi to to to to to to to to me the the the to me the the the the thi thi thi it, that, you know, science may not be able to explain, but we feel it, we understand it. And that to me is the good stuff. And I think you need a little bit of both to really, you know, maneuver through this amazing realm that we live in. And just hearing what you got to say, I totally respect and I love it. And I gotta be honest with you, man, this has been an absolute honor to talk to you because you sacrifice so much for humanity and that to me is the model of abundance. And that you give it away and it cost you so much, but you seem like you're an amazing place. And you know, for me, man, it's just like, as a guy who did stand up start comedy at 22 years old and didn't start really getting into a good place till 43. And I saw so many people in my line of work fly by me,
Starting point is 01:04:54 start living successfully doing all stuff and then kind of you know at my age kind of like loss and what they want to do and I don't wish anything negative on anybody. But the journey is so long, you know, and sometimes at some points we stumble and we think the race is over, but the race is still going and like we might catch up to some people who might start tire up later on and sometimes we get to, you know, we have a destination we want to go to where we think is over here and that's where we want to be. But the universe has another idea for us and this wonderful destination is over here and
Starting point is 01:05:32 we don't realize that we've kind of changed our path but we're on the right path and based on the short time I've talked to you. I think that's kind of what's going on, that you sacrifice a lot, now you're on a different path and it's a wonderful path and you you seem happy to me and I think at the end of the day that's the most important shit. And I just can't thank you enough, Andy for... Andy for... I just correct your listeners to do, if they want, I love them to watch the movies, I love them to get educated to understand why we are, where we are where we are where we are in where we are in the world the world the world th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, that, that, thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I th. thi, th. th. th. th. thi, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that th do that. And so 1986, the act.com, 1986 the act.com, please go there, take a look. And you will not regret it.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It may save your life. I will put all the links into the show notes. And yeah, man, I honestly, man, I didn't know who I was talking to at first and then it clicked and man it was a real honor to talk to you it's a highlight the blessings of doing the show I'd say get to talk to people like you and I don't know if there's ever a time that I can help you out man and you need anything whether it's exposure to my audience or connection with people to help you with your films because I work with those people I'd be honored to help you in any way I can and open door policy all the time anytime you need it the doors open just let
Starting point is 01:06:52 me know and we'll make it happen I'll talk to you about that because the answer is may well we may well need you help that's what we're talking about so final thing is there any other places besides your movie link where you would like for them to go find you? Any social media websites or anything? Sam, can I send you that information? I'll get that to you? Yep, no problem. I'll get my CEO to send all that to you and I'd love to talk to you particularly about actors. Yeah, we're starting to we're starting to cast some actors at the moment and I'm sure you're in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to find to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the to to the to the to the to to to the to to to the to to to the the to to to the to you particularly about actors. We're starting to we're starting to cast some actors at the moment and I'm sure you're in toucest with some very talented people over there who are looking for work and so I'd love to give you a call. How will I get in touch with you? Well I have your email I'm
Starting point is 01:07:38 gonna send you my email and I'll include my number in there and you can call me anytime my friend. Wonderful th so much, Sam. Best luck with everyone. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you for coming on. Thank you guys for watching. I love you guys very much. Thank you for the sport and we'll do it again soon. Take care. We go deep home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind.
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