Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #464: Thinking Globally, Decentralizing Locally with Flote's Kingsley and Erin Edwards

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:30 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just move my mind. Good morning swarm and welcome to Timfall. Good morning swarm and welcome to get your mind down there? Good morning swarm and welcome to Timfall Hatt, you know I am? You know I'm here to do?

Starting point is 00:00:50 I am here too. Rock. Thank you, Xavier Guerrero and on the ones and twoos. Johnny Woodard, aka J. Nice. Hey buddy. Guys, how was your weekend? It was great. Yeah, I had a great weekend. I was in Bakersfield, or as I called, the Devil's Butthole, all right? It was hot. It was 109.

Starting point is 00:01:09 Oh, it was 109. And dude, it was crazy because there was like right now, it was all track malls. And right next to the club, like a half a block down, was a church that a church that a church that a church that a church that a church that a church that a church that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th. th. that was, that was, that was, that was, thi, that, that, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was a, was a, was a, to, to, to, to, to, a to, a the the toa, a the the the the too, a the the the the toa. the the the the the toe. they decided a hundred nine to have a bouncy house for kids to play on the pavement. Yeah, yeah, where's your Jesus now? Okay, right? But overall I want to thank all the swarm who came out. What wonderful shows we had in Bakersfield.

Starting point is 00:01:39 We're going to go back there to a tip-il hat, comedy night, and a swarm tank. And we're very excited about that. A lot of great stuff coming out. If you want to see me live, I will be at the rabbit hole on June 30th, myself and a bunch of friends should be a wonderful show. So come out. I'm trying to get the ticket link again. If you want to see me live, you can get all my ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket ticket tickickickickickickickickickick, to to to to to to to tip, tip at tip at to to to to to to to the to to to tip. to to to do to do to do tooom.m.m.m. tooom. I, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the tip, tip, tip, tip, tip, tip, tip. tip. tip. tip. tii. ti. ti. ti.e.e.m. ti. ti.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. I, to, too me live, you can get all my ticket links at Sam Tripoli.com At the end of July, we're in Dallas. Just add a swarm tank to Dallas. Oh shit. As soon as Xavier gets me the graphics, it will be up. So we have stand-up comedy at 8 o'clock, and swarm tank at 10 o'clock. And then the following day we're in Oklahoma City, I believe. So go to Sam Triplililililililililililililili. to to to to say. to say. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. to see. the to see. the to see. the to to the to the to the the the the to to thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to tod. today. today. today. today. today. today. to. to. to. to. to to the the the thi. Oklahoma City, I believe. So go to Sam Tripoli.com.

Starting point is 00:02:26 If you want to see myself, Xavier Gretao, Eddie Bravo, all live doing stand-up comedy. Again, that's Sam Tripoli.com. Big news, guys. New shirt alert. A. Big shirt alert. Shapeshifting Jesus will be live. Just know it's got Jesus, Buddha, Aliens, Bigfoot and Godzilla on it. I've seen it, it's wonderful. It's a good one. My buddy made it.

Starting point is 00:02:55 I can see why it took a while to be took him. Yeah, it looked like I didn't. I couldn't imagine that in my head. We had to do a bunch of different designs to make it work. It's cool. It's 2D. That's rad though, yeah. But I thought it'd be great to have a shirt with a real nice Godzilla on it. So there you go. That would be available to no. Lost suit, incoming.

Starting point is 00:03:14 Is that going to be limited edition? No, then that should be for the people. What do you guys think? Maybe maybe make one with Godzilla a limited edition and just take Godzilla off for the rest of them. No then no man. Maybe make God's a Mecca Godzilla on one like the first hundred and then regular Godzilla for no. No dude Godzilla if you read the Bible shape shifting in Jesus shape shifted into Godzilla at some point. It's in the Bible. We're trying to keep this biblically biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical biblical God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go sh. to go sh. to go shi. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Shi. Shi. Shi. Shi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. She. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. the the the the the the the the Bible. We're trying to keep this biblically accurate. Okay, Jesus is for the people. Jesus is for the people. And then I have a breakfast, the chicken snake guy coming next.

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Starting point is 00:05:05 okay, turn that show off because that's not even close to real, or you know, a trans in the lead of a comedy. By the way, do you guys see the, I think the lead chick on the new say by the bell is trans and in the picture she's doing this, did you see that? Oh wow, what time out? Like, th. th. the th. th. th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's that's that's that's that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. that's not tha. tha. that's not tha. that's not that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that? Oh wow. What, time out? Like Chris Weber? Is that time out or is that like I'm a tea? And by the way, not buying it. Also when you go to Universal Studios over here or whatever that is over here, they have these rides about movies. And one is, one is the, um, the secret life of pets and you can do the ride and they have a dog riding on what? A red rocket? Oh shit. Yeah I mean that's a dog dick right am I wrong? I mean I come rocket yeah I mean like come on man I mean like dude can you be more obvious? They do look like red crayons. I don't know what you're staring at but anyways. Yeah, you're right about that. She's true. She's doing a tea right there. I mean, they the the the the the the th. the th. the the the th. the the the the the th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the th. the red. the red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. red. the that she's right right and she's doing a tea right there? I didn't see the

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Starting point is 00:06:47 I know, I was just laughing. You got an Instagram face. Yeah, we got his two. He's got the tar, Sam has Tarzan boy, that's his Instagram. It's out. Oh, oh, oh, oh, a lot of shows. People always go, hey, how many shows you have? I have enough shows. But here's the beauty of my, my, my, my website. You can get all the videos to all my free content there on there.

Starting point is 00:07:13 And by, I believe within a week or two, I'm going to have a 24-hour radio station where you can listen to all of my content, all my free shows you can listen to it on a, all my free shows, you can listen to it on a radio station. That's somebody's version of hell is just your voice on a loop for 24 hours. And it's some people's version of heaven, okay? That's it, man. You know some checks are going to be their fingering their beans. Hey! Dude, this is a Christian show.

Starting point is 00:07:42 This is a Christian show. Nobody's fingering beans on this show. Especially not. Come from the guy that knows what a red rock it is. He's talking about fingering beans now. I want to apologize to you. This is a Christian show. Johnny, you just got promoted your, shape, shifting Jesus would not be happy with that all. But go to Sam Tripli.com, get all my videos thoves.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. to. to. to. th. to. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the, th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. th. this. this. this is. this is. this is. this is. the. the. the. the. the. th. that all. But go to Sam Tripoli.com get all my videos there and then just go to

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Starting point is 00:08:42 So we have a couple of ads on here. So I hope you guys enjoy and I hope you guys understand. We're doing the best we can to minimalize how long they the ads are. But it's like, this is our passion, this is our brand. If we could, we would do this full time all the time. And that, you know, people got to pay the bills. so so so so, so, so, so, so, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. And I I I I I I I I I I I's, their. And I I's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. their bills. So I mean we would do a third episode but people don't tune in as much so I mean that's just the truth. I love doing the show and we'll see man we'll see so I hope you guys enjoy this episode we're talking about decentralizing everything from your social media to your local

Starting point is 00:09:21 politics so we're decentralized locally acting Okay, so enjoy the show. Drink, fun of the fountain. I'm super excited to have these next guests on. They're kind enough to take me out to all these fun different festivals, these crypto festivals, these off-the-grid festivals. They're on their way as we speak to Pork Fest. I think that's what's called. They have a wonderful website called Float and we're gonna get into it today because there's a lot of stuff I want to discuss. So I'm very excited. Please welcome my good friends. Aaron and Kingsley Edwards.

Starting point is 00:09:57 How are you guys? So good. Happy to be here. Yeah. Kings, where's your mom? Where's my mom? Yeah, where's your mom? Yeah, where's your mom? She's not coming. She's watching. She's watching our dog Satoshi. A dog. He's in Vegas, yeah. Kingsley's mom is like the queen of crypto. So I've been trying to get her on cash taddies, but she's shy. So you met her? Yeah, I met her. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the. their. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. I was this. I was this. I was this. I was this. I was this. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. this. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the. the. the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I her. I met her. They did a, so basically they run float. They came to a show that we did. They came to our Vegas show on Fremont Street and they were in the back and it's been love ever since and we've been hanging out and they brought me to their inaugural float fest and then they brought me out to shit coin and it was great. I loved it.

Starting point is 00:10:48 I had a lot of fun. Before we get, let's get into real quick float and what you guys are trying to do with float. Why don't we start with what is float and why did you start it? Yeah, Floats a crypto social network without the big tech censorship. We started it because, oh, I've been in crypto, kind of an entrepreneur in the space since 2013, but Aaron, she started developing,

Starting point is 00:11:12 you know, or bringing, making some friends in the content creation space. A lot of people that I've been following, kind of in the Liberty movement. I'm very nice. Yeah, so I'm like the introvert. She's the introvert. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th....... to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thr. thr. thi. She's the extrovert. And so, so we just started noticing that a lot of our friends, you know, they started getting hundreds of thousands of subscribers over the years and making, you know, decent money, finally able to just kind of focus on their YouTube channel or whatever channel it is.

Starting point is 00:11:39 And they started getting, you know,monitized, you know how it is. Just what's now kind of, you know, common and even the mainstream is was pretty, you know, still is controversial. Now all of a sudden, you know, free speech is controversial. So we took a look at other platforms out there, and we just decided, hey, this is not only the right thing to do to stand up for speech online, but also, you know, business opportunity too because of all the missteps that that Zuckerberg and Dorsey and all the other big tech CEOs are making day-to-day used to piss us off. Now we're like, okay, you know, keep fucking with your

Starting point is 00:12:15 user base because they're they're coming over to float and we're happy to have them. Plus, you know, at the end of the day, you want to be able to tell your kids what you did to stand up against censorship. And I think we can be pretty proud of that when our kid comes knocking on our door and asking us what we did to stand up for liberty. Our kids knocking our door, we kick them out. Yeah, you know, 18. Living on the streets of Vegas. So I totally agree with you. I think it's kind of crazy all the stuff that's coming out like I was just telling Johnny and XG before you guys jumped on that now

Starting point is 00:12:49 it's coming out that Google was funding research in the Wuhan land and I the question is why is Google a tech company jumping in to funding virus research? And it just becomes more, more, more, more blatant that these tech companies, these mainstream ones, these giants, are just an arm of the government. And it's like... Yeah. Go on. I mean, it's obvious. It's obvious, right? Like every time the election comes around, uh, and it's, uh, and it's, uh, and it's, uh, and, and it's, uh, and... And, and, and, the. And, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the virus, the virus, the the the virus, the the the virus, th. And it's the virus, the virus, the virus, the virus, and it's the virus, and it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the virus, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thir virus r- thi. thir, yeah, go on. I mean, it's obvious. It's obvious, right? Like every time the election comes around Instagram and Facebook won't shut the fuck up about go to vote, go to vote. You know, like anything with the vaccine now, like, they're showcasing celebrities, getting the Vax. And I think what happened is that the, you know, the

Starting point is 00:13:41 authoritarians that basically, you know, run the government, they realize, well, the government has restrictions, but if we can take over the tech companies and all these other different corporations and use them basically as a private arm of the government, well, we're able to get away with a lot more. And we lost that. But I, following up on hopefully they'll come back or we can figure out with Johnny All right, that's cool. Well, I want I want to continue what I saying is like basically for me It is more than obvious that they found loopholes like Kingsley was saying to find a way to fund I consider a bio lab in China a black ops operation and am I wrong here? I mean, what is more black ops than a virus that shut down our entire country?

Starting point is 00:14:33 You think it would have been differently if it would have leaked from the United States? Well- If we would have had one of those labs here and it would have leaked here and they would have owned up to it? You think it would have looked at it differently? Well, the issue is I don't think you do that that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in that in thi th. thi thi thi thi the the the thi the the the the the the the their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the and they would have owned up to it. You think it would, we would have looked at it differently? Well, the issue is I don't think you do that in the United States. I might be wrong, but I believe like there's laws against doing that stuff in the United States, which I'm probably wrong about, but based on just my feel, that would happen in the United States. That's why they have to have to go to go to go to go the the to go the the their their their their their have their have their their their their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. I have thi. I have thi, thi, thi. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thin. I thin. I thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. I don't thin. thin. I don't thin. thin. thin. the. thin. I don't thin. I don't the. I don't th can't do that stuff in the United States. So if it did come out that would be an even bigger violation. But it's like we were talking about with Bravo with Bravo like all this stuff validates a virus which

Starting point is 00:15:14 validates a vaccine. But you know it's like they were talking today I heard this guy the quarterling he's got a really good YouTube channel and he was talking about how the CDC has been funding a lot of like Fox News and that's got to extend to Fox Sports as well right I mean every commercial either on serious radio or on Fox Sports is a vaccine commercial. I mean we are, I mean Johnny, we're seeing like, and you and I were talking about this before hopefully they'll get back on, but we're seeing like, I think, the pulling back of the curtain to a form of fascism. And I know that people get when they get here with their back, when they get down to

Starting point is 00:16:09 what is actual fascism, it's supposedly a guy who is, you know, one person. An authoritarian. Yeah, but I think that's, I mean, even behind that one person who runs everything. Like Stalin went to these certain kind of us Like not basically Ivy League schools Welcome back guys. Thanks for joining us. Well, yeah, and even with Stalin. There was a government of sorts. I mean, there was still the Duma, you know that he had to Pretend to get the approval of you know, yeah, so it's just very interesting. Well as you guys are gone trying to find Wi-Fi that works, we were discussing, we were just discussing.

Starting point is 00:16:49 No, no, see we were censored by Zoom. This is an example of censorship. Well, it is, it is kind of interesting. Like, let's get into, why did Zoom just show up out of nowhere? What happened to Skype? Yeah, and then suddenly Zoom was everywhere. And you're like, but it's just weird. Like why did we all just not say, we're done with Skype?

Starting point is 00:17:12 And someone goes, hey, you want to jump on Skype? I'm like, what are you from the 80s? Skype, I will say from a technical standpoint, their recording solution sucked. It was the quality, it was much worse than Zoom. So, I mean, that's one of the reasons. But isn't it easier just to update the software? Zoom benefited. Yeah, done by. Zoom benefited from the virtual schooling, right?

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Starting point is 00:19:30 censoring companies. They do have a headquers in China as well. So even with our company, we actually use a different competitor called Jitsy that's that's open source. What's it called Jits's called JITSE. JITSE. Yeah. All right. Interesting. Interesting.

Starting point is 00:19:52 I'm interested. But let's get back to float what float represents. You know, when I was at the, uh, your inaugural event, uh, you guys are talking about how you've created a way to transfer all of your Facebook data to your app. And I think that's huge because I think most people don't get rid of their Facebook app because there are wonderful memories from 10 years ago, 15 years ago, however long Facebook has been around.

Starting point is 00:20:22 It would be like burning a photo out to delete it. Right. So you're like I got to keep it. And then if you just keep keep tempt tempt tempt to to to to to to to to to the the the to just the the to just the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the theate thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And thi. And I thi. And I thi. And I like burning a photo up to delete it. Right. So you're like, I gotta keep it. And then if you just keep tempting them, they're going to delete your entire, like thing, that's why I happen to Tommy G. They got rid of his entire, his entire like YouTube. I mean, his Facebook page.

Starting point is 00:20:39 And he was like, I have dogs that are no longer with me that have pictures on there that are gone now. Yeah, it's complete bullshit. So that's a big part of what Float is doing also is we're focused on interoperability. And what I mean by that is by creating bridges from big tech to new tech technology like Float and then also from from our platform to other new tech platforms like library and and many others. So, but yeah, that's one of unique feature of flow right now is that we have the ability as a user to download your Facebook, you know, post, pictures and videos from all those years and uploaded to flow.

Starting point is 00:21:15 And I recommend that people does do that just in case, like our CTO, for instance, Patrick Smith, he got censored on Facebook for, what was it, sharing, something, you know, something stupid. Yeah, and he lost, he lost all those connections to all his, you know, childhood friends, all his, you know, all his videos and pictures like you just mentioned. And so it's, yeah, it's. And now that we hired him, his like first comment was, I'm here to take down a big tech overlords who deleted my Facebook.

Starting point is 00:21:50 You took my Facebook prepared to die. Yeah, right? That's the important man. You know and I talk about this a lot like there's a lot of complaining in the all on the in the conspiracy community the truth community whatever you want to call it, about Facebook censorship. And I'm like, and YouTube censorship, and I'm like, well, guess what, man? If you don't like that censorship, get off the platform. And there are so many wonderful websites like Float, Bitchu, Odyssey, obviously Rockfin as well that are viable places. I think the hardest thing for a lot of these websites will be that.. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, thi, thi, thi, the the they they they they the, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they-I'm like, the the the the the the the to-I'm like, they-I'm like, they-I-I's, too, that are viable places. I think the hardest thing for a lot of these websites will be that you know unfortunately and I love to hear

Starting point is 00:22:32 what you guys thoughts on this because you guys do have a great product and I think a lot of people are really hitting the ground running is like you have to compete not with Facebook when it first started but Facebook today and the shininess and the glossiness and the glossiness and that's the g g.. and the the the the g. the g. th and th and th.. that's thattoday and the shininess and and the glossiness and that's really hard to do what have you guys done to combat that because let's just face it I mean some people are just brand horse and like they just like shiny objects I mean the thing is like I don't I wouldn't consider Facebook being the shiny objects anymore. You know, I think, I think Facebook and YouTube are really kind of shoot, and Twitter, they're

Starting point is 00:23:11 all kind of shooting their selves in the foot. They're bleeding users. Every time they censor their users, I mean, I did a poll on Twitter the other day. And I asked how many people have been censored on big tech and the poll is 80% and we had over you know over a couple hundred votes 80% of people have been censored on big tech you know so at the end of the day what we're trying to do at flow is we're just trying to make it extremely user-friendly and we're building the site

Starting point is 00:23:45 that our users want to use. Yeah. I think it's really important to listen to your user base and build what they want accordingly. I think that's kind of what separates us from our competition a little bit because we're very open to user feedback, and we deliver on what our users want.

Starting point is 00:24:03 And ultimately, like our goal, you know, isn't necessarily to become the next Facebook. And we don't have to become the next Facebook to be successful. You know, our goal is actually to get to 100 million users within five years, which represents less than, you know, 4% of Facebook's total user base. So I think right now, the fact that they're pissing off their user base and they're making so many missteps along the way and the things that we're integrating that are part of this new decentralized revolution

Starting point is 00:24:32 and the technology that comes along with it, I believe will put us as a major player, you know, in the foreseeable future. What is the big, like when you go to let's say you're Normie friends, right? I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. And, when you go to let's say you're Normie friends, right? I mean we all have friends who are Normies that aren't necessarily in the truth community or looking to live off the grid or you know take over a town in Texas or anything like that, right? Um, but when you talk to these people and you go, hey man, we got this really great, great website that we're building. What is the resistance to moving fully over there? Because, you know, even when I, when I, like, I go, hey, man, Timfall has no longer on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:25:16 We, we're just not going to play that game with them anymore. We have brands that we do that fit into what YouTube likes that we don't get strikes on. They don't want this here. I have 130,000 subscribers. I would like to keep them. I'm gonna move over here. And like the bitching in the moaning from these people who love Tim Follah and they know the censorship going on.

Starting point is 00:25:40 I go, it's, I'm not asking you to get on a plane and fly somewhere I'm asking you to go to your address bar and put in a different address that's all I'm asking you to do and there seems to be some resistance that what is your thoughts on before they said the only resistance I never saw was when people went from my space to Facebook that was instant That was instant. I'll get into that. Because I think that's what's happening with porn hub and only fans right now. I think it's really interesting the very global imploding of pornob and then now I just saw somebody put out that only fans is raising a billion dollars and you're like that is so. For what? Who's out that, only fans is raising a billion dollars.

Starting point is 00:26:25 And you're like, that is so. For what? Who's paying that much? For what though? I mean, what are they expanding into? It doesn't make any sense. That's so, I mean, like, just, what is the difference between porn hub?

Starting point is 00:26:36 Bigger sex toys, yeah. No, but think about this, man. There's a there's a way more personal interaction on only fans compared to porn hub right? Pornub, you don't need an account to watch a porno. Now you need an account, you need your credit card numbers, you need everything on that. How do I know that? How do you think I know that? Right? Right. I leave a comment without being a subscriber.

Starting point is 00:27:04 The only thing only fans doesn't have, uh, that porn hub? Right, right. Can't leave a comment without being a subscriber. The only thing only fans doesn't have, uh, that Pornhub does, is that you can pay with crypto. And float does that. So. So if you want to get naked, go to float for crypto. Is that what we're saying right now? If you want to earn that, uh, become rocket coin, you know? But it, it is very interesting the, the, like, a billion dollars.

Starting point is 00:27:31 Hey, we're gonna try to raise a billion dollars. Who's gonna give you a billion? I mean, like, I'm sure there's some creepy Saudi princes, like, I'll give you a billion dollars, right? But then again, it's like, are to hear who gives you the billion dollars? Because we can talk about this. The thing that Float is battling is like, you know, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook all got intelligence seed money. And we all know it's so obvious what's going on right now. And now it's coming out that Jeff Bezos's father or grandfather ran DARPA. Like now Amazon's everywhere. You're like, oh, this is, they call it corporateocracy,

Starting point is 00:28:12 but it really is fascism. So how do we get people to leave? Go on, sorry, Kingsley, go on. Yeah, I mean, I think at the end of the day it's it's just providing a really good product that they that they can't deny and I believe I mean Facebook is really has the network effects but they are ruining that network effect because they are they're censoring people they're censoring even you know alternative health groups are censoring you know gamers they're censoring all sorts of people. So I think as this, you know, continues on,

Starting point is 00:28:45 I don't see it getting any better, I see it getting it worse, then, you know, ultimately those people are going to be finding other platforms to bringing their, you know, communities or starting new communities on. Also, the trend as far as people downloading and using more social labs has been on the rise, you know, ever since social media became a thing. So I think right now it was at like, I'm trying to remember the numbers. It was, let's say, like around like five social apps that people have on average on their phone, and that trend is continuously going upwards. So again, I think the way, where we're headed is a place where there are more, there are more communities and different types of communities

Starting point is 00:29:27 that are forming online and those will continue to grow on these different social apps like Float and others. So, you know, and we're just, we're more targeted towards kind of, you know, people that care about free speech, the freedom community and also the crypto community. And I think that's by providing a place where people, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and also the crypto community. And I think that's by providing a place where people, you know, people can communicate with each other using the just free speech and applying the encryption technology where we see fit or you know for the users benefit because obviously any kind of direct messages or anything like that is being read on Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Twitter, all that, so don't send your dick picks through there. And then also, you know, a big part of to to to th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. the. theeateateateateateateate. theateate. tea. theatea. theateate. theate. the. the. the So don't send your dick picks through there.

Starting point is 00:30:06 And then also, you know, a big part of what we're doing too is a huge use case for cryptocurrency, not only connecting people on the social side, but connecting people on the commerce side too, and making it so that, you know, when you get paid out by YouTube or use even Patron or these others, they sit in there as a middleman, as an intermediary and take their cut. With Flo, we're providing a real use,

Starting point is 00:30:27 a real world use case for cryptocurrency, providing a peer-to-peer connection with your, you know, your fan base, your customers, whoever may be, so that we don't take a cut when it comes to payments on flow. And I think that's what's really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really the to to the to to to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to.. the the the the too. the the the the the the too.e. the the the the the the too-s. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to what's really going to make us stand out from the rest is providing kind of this sufficient market system on our platform versus different. So Tim Dylan, stop putting your shit on fucking Patreon and put it on float where you actually get to keep all that revenue. You're just tossing so much money into freaking Patrion's

Starting point is 00:30:58 pocket. How much does he make? It's crazy. Yeah, it's like he probably pays out pays out Patreon like I don't know, the $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $10. I that's. I that's. I, it's like he probably pays out patron like I don't know ten thousand dollars a month Yeah, I mean, I honestly believe it's even more than that to be honest with you I think he's clearing a hundred gee. I mean, I don't want to put out his business, but I do believe that he's making a lot of money But you know and Tim Dylan love him love him love him what he's doing I get concerned that a lot of the mainstream.??????????? th.... th. I? I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's like, I'm. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's like, that's like, that's like, thi. I'm like, thi. I'm like, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm's doing. I get concerned that a lot of the mainstream people, especially in my line of work, which is comedy, are all brand tours. They, like the punk rock is gone from the fluoride people. The fluoride people just love to follow the rules and be on the brand and do all that stuff.

Starting point is 00:31:41 And it's just, it's really hard. Like hard like you know I work with you guys I work with Rock Finn you try to talk to people about moving and it's just like yeah they're just like I don't know and I just think in the long run they don't they don't think they don't they don't think that they're going to be on the side of sense ship because today they're on the quote unquote right side of the discussion, but they will age at some point and these kids always wanna get crazier than the, than the generation before them. So now it just becomes. As soon as it happens, as soon as it happens to them, something's gonna click and they're gonna be like, oh shit, Sam AAA was right. And they're gonna start, you know, I think, I think once you have skin in the game,

Starting point is 00:32:30 then it's totally different. And that's with anything, right? So like the second that they do get censored, they're gonna be like, oh wow. And it could just be, you know, Facebook Facebook, Facebook, Facebook,. We see this every we see this every day basically you know new people that are joining float and getting getting censored for the most ridiculous reasons you know for posts that are like 10 years old or a video that's you know five years old that covers nothing controversial at all. And you know I think I think I think probably the types of people that you, you know, around

Starting point is 00:33:07 your community and more of like the California scene, you know, obviously probably leans a little bit more left. But I do believe that anyone from like a libertarian to, you know, a Trump conservative is seeing what's going on now, and this represents, you know, 40 to 50 percent of the world. And so slowly, slowly but surely, slowly, slowly, slowly, th slowly, thu slowly, thu slowly, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, they, they, the, they, th, th, th, th, th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I's, thi. I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, to toooooooo. And, toee. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, they. And, thi. And of the world. And so slowly but surely, I mean, obviously, you know, all the new tech platforms out there have a lot of work to do and a lot of catch up. But I think slowly but surely, you know,

Starting point is 00:33:31 we will have our day. And I mean, you know, we're starting to see that now. Even just with, you know, what happened with Trump and like with Parlor, There's a big fight ahead of us, but I think it's a, you know, it's very important to keep free speech online because the manipulation of all the algorithms that they're using, it's just, you know, we're seeing, we're seeing what's, what's going on now and in how they can, they can censor things that are, that are completely true. Yeah, look what happened with the Wuhan link, right? Like, it turn turn turn turn th th th thuuuuuu, th th th thu, thu, th is th is thu. thu. thu. thu. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thea, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the. And, thea. We's, thoooooooooooooo. And, their, their, their, their, their, the that whole thing was true. And so many content creators and independent journalists that's thrown off and demonetized

Starting point is 00:34:09 on YouTube for claiming the very same thing. And then YouTube is not. It is nuts. It is nuts how, you know, down the line, everything comes out true. Even if you take a look at like pre like Jeffrey Epstein quote-unquote suiciding himself versus after Epstein suicide himself. All the people who got censored for saying there's a pedophile ring in Washington and everybody was like, you're a crazy person that came out and it lasted 18 hours. We couldn't even get

Starting point is 00:34:42 a full day of a fucking parade that we were right. It was 18 hours to, oh yeah, he just killed himself, nobody killed. It's like, unbelievable. Like Brian Callan is one of my best friends. He says he's gonna work my nuts when we're on a conspiracy social club because he says that's right about Fauci. And I just want to be like, wouldn't it be easier just to believe me at first and then say I was wrong later instead of flipping it?

Starting point is 00:35:10 I mean, wouldn't we be in a better place? I really want to see, I want to do an experiment where you talk out against like the Gulf of Tonkin and even though it's been proven true, I want to see if we'll get censored on Facebook. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. And even th. And even th. th. tog th. th. th. ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti thi thi, ti toge thi thi thi thi thi to say to say to say to say to say to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was ti. I was ti. I was ti. I was ti. I was ti. I was ti. I was ti. I was toge. I was toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. toge. thi's thi's thi.ue, I want to see if we'll get censored on Facebook. I mean, most people don't even know about it. If you brought a golf and talking, they're like, is Tiger Woods in that this year? They don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Right? So, you know, we had an episode the other day with Zach Vohese. The first thing comes in my head is Jason Voorhees. I want to say it every time. I'm like, you know, I'm like, Crystal Lake. So he was talked, we had an episode on Klaus Schwab

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Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah so we're actually in the middle of moving all of our database over to a more resilient system that's apparently fireproof and like EMF proof so that's a good thing on our side. But yeah there's gonna there's gonna be multiple tax. I mean, you know, basically false flags. Probably, you know, cyber tax, all this type of stuff. You can kind of see it going down the line. There also I believe they're gonna try to attack crypto. We're seeing that in China today. But this is, you know, especially cryptocurrency, the biggest threat ever that's ever been for the world central banking system.

Starting point is 00:39:05 And that's that's you know the only way that they're actually even able to run all these schemes that they do because they have the ability to print money at will. So yeah look at El Salvador right like they're they're terrified that a country just made Bitcoin legal tender. Yeah I'm not sure'm not sure if you saw the World Bank and IMF they they you know basically spoke out about El Salvador trying to make Bitcoin legal tender. So it's just a matter of you know it's just a matter of you know doing the right thing trying to look ahead and and taking the right precautions. But ultimately like in the chaos I believe there is a lot of opportunity and to you know both on the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe so so so so so so so. toe so. toe so. toe so. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the chaos I believe there is a lot of opportunity and to you know both on the software side you know what we're doing afloat I think on the on the

Starting point is 00:39:48 hardware side on the decentralization slide as far as like mesh networks so really what we're learning now and you know a lot of tech entrepreneurs are kind of finding we're finding this out the hard way is that we've let big tech grow too big too fast and now we have a lot of catch up to do.. to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to the the to the the to the the the the the to the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to the the the th. to to to to th. th. th. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. theeean. tean. theean. thea. thea. theean. the, and now we have a lot of catch-up to do. But with that catch-up, there's more people waking up, and like I said, there's more opportunity for small businesses or small teams to pick up projects and to really, in my opinion, save the world from what's coming down on the pipeline.

Starting point is 00:40:17 And when, honestly, so we are switching servers at the moment. When to to to to to to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, they w w w me, theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, thinathea, theymea, the, the, thoes and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they., they., they., they., they., they... And, they. And, theymea, theymea, theymea, toeanananananananananananananananananlipeanananananananlip. And, toeananananananlipeananlip. And, tombs. And, the theyan got on a call with the owner of the server company, I mean he is hyper paranoid about all of the stuff that you mentioned and he brought up each thing to us and he you know he's like we are building to prepare for that. You know so he's he's super prepared we feel very confident and yeah so you know you have to align yourself with good moral companies who align philosophically with you so you know it's you have to align yourself with good moral companies who align philosophically with you because you know like we're not on AWS look at the look what they did to parlor I mean it just goes to show you that you have to align yourself with good and moral

Starting point is 00:40:57 companies who will have your back when shit hits the fan. I totally agree with you let me ask like is it possible to get to a place where they can't shut down the fan. I totally agree with you. Let me ask, like is it possible to get to a place where they can't shut down the internet? Where is it so decentralized that they don't have the power to take it out? Can we get there? How long will that take? Yeah, I would say, I would say in the next 10 years, it's definitely a real possibility. But there's so many projects that are working on it right now. And, you know, IPFS is an example of that file coin. Our strategy, you know, moving forward is basically where we want to get to. But the technology is here. It's been kind of in like alpha, beta stage for a long time. But thanks to actually actually, actually, actually, actually, actually, actually, to actually the to actually the the the to actually the the to actually the the the the to actually, the the to actually, the the the thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. I I I I I thi. So, thi. So, thi. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. So, thi. So, thi. I I thi. I thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi. So, thi. I'm thi. I'm toooooooooooo. So, toda. So, today, today, today, thi. So, thi. So, time but thanks to actually you know really the technology of like Bitcoin and another you know cryptocurrency

Starting point is 00:41:48 technology it's it's really pushing the the needle forward for this more kind of decentralized world. So there's you know obviously float rockfin odyssey is there any benefit to working together in any capacity? Or I mean, obviously we're in a capitalist society. You know, it's killer be killed, but I wonder if the, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and like working together with these other companies. Not so much, you know, so you're the exact same thing, but an understanding of like, kind of what Coke and Pepsi does, where it's like, if another competitor comes in, they're they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, the exact same thing, but an understanding of like, kind of what Coke and Pepsi does, where it's like, if another competitor comes in, they work together to snuff them out.

Starting point is 00:42:30 I don't like that, but is there a way for the three or four, these bit shoots kind of in there as well? Obviously, that is an alternative tech company. Is there a way to have thicatatathea thatatatatatatat they. I I I I I that that that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that is like, that is like, that is like, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. I that. I that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that is there a way to have everybody work together? I love that. I got this. I got this. Yeah, no, you know, I think the first union of the unwanted that you and I were on Sam. I think, you know, we were on with Jeremy from Odyssey, we're on with Roxanne. And I, you know, the thing with Float is like we want to be interoperable with library and Odyssey. We want to be interoperable with Rockfin. Um, you know, like we want to add integrations into steam and hive. Like we want to basically make a way where we can accept steam and hive and odd and library coin, you know,

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Starting point is 00:44:19 behind the platform behind Odyssey. Odyssey is more of the, you can think of it as more like the front facing type of, you know, face look for library so that they can be a little bit more commercially viable. So with library, it's basically uncensurable. And in Odyssey, they can, you know, they can, they can censor things or curate things in a way, but it's still supposed to be more, obviously, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you more, you to be more, you to be, you know, more obviously better than YouTube. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:45 So we are, obviously it's been like a really weird time for crypto. We've seen like giant gains and then we've seen some serious stagnation. And you know, I run an investment show and it's kind of hard to talk to people about investing because nobody knows what it's going to happen. And you know, we were just talking again before the show about how like China's like we're going to done, we're done mining. And then they're like, they're like, while the number went down and go, well, why is it

Starting point is 00:45:20 going down if there's going to be less coins coming out? Isn't that, does to be less coins coming out? Isn't that, does that make each Bitcoin more valuable? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So we missed how someone, someone tried calling me to kind of cut you out there. But, um, yeah, sorry, let me repeat it. Let me repeat it. Yeah, sorry, that's all right. So basically, you know, we're in this crazy time in crypto right now

Starting point is 00:45:47 It seems pretty stagnant Everything's going down, you know, where we a lot of people are like oh, it's going up and we saw like people moving into crypto and it's very interesting because my brother is like a great like barometer of what the feel of crypto is out there. Because one second he's like, Bitcoin's stupid, dude. I don't get it. I don't care. And then like a couple weeks later, he's like, dude, this is kind of interesting,

Starting point is 00:46:14 bro. And then it's like, things are going great, bro. I'm so happy for you. And now he just hit me up going on with Bitcoin right now? And you have this whole thing with China. I like, it's just so interesting because it makes you wonder what is really going on because China has now become like what the North Korea is militarily, which is this boogie man, right? China is kind of that in crypto and like, oh, they're done mining now. And then everything crashes, which doesn't make any sense to us because that

Starting point is 00:46:45 would mean that the available Bitcoin is becomes more valuable because it would be less of it but yet it goes down. What are your thoughts on the what's going on in crypto right now? Right. Well so first of all I do want to say that people get a little bit like cryptos is so fast moving and so and actually my background before getting into crypto and tech was actually in wealth management so I'm used to more you know even just normal investment strategies and you know we look at like the the S&P history and it's only you know on average returned anywhere from like eight to 10 percent on average

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Starting point is 00:48:28 to the US or Canada but I think it's I think it's just it's a normal type of cycle thing that's that's gonna happen we're gonna see more crackdowns with with more countries you know you see India right now talking about it but then you on the flip side of that you see th you th you th you th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I th. th. I th. th. I th. thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm the the the the th. I's the the the the th. I I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm th. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm th. thin. th. I'm thin. I'm th. thin. I'm the the thin. I then on the flip side of that you see El Salvador. And I think any location that embraces cryptocurrency will be the future of finance, you know, in the next 10, 20, 30 years, because it's inevitable. The cat's out of the bag, the technology is here, and it will replace the current financial system because it's, at the end of thethe day it just provides a much more efficient mechanism to to conduct commerce and that's exactly what the world needs with central banking all the stupid regulations that governments try to pursue or you know dictate and crypto and defy you know

Starting point is 00:49:19 projects offer and opt-out of this financial what do do you want to call it, you know, tyranny really. And so I think ultimately no matter what what they try to do, crypto will win because it's, you know, it kind of has like the idea of the internet in peer-to-peer technology and really it bakes in kind of the idea of, you know, human spirit and individualism and so, you know, we'll find it. Keep calm and hauble. Yeah, exactly. Keep, every time instead of complaining when it goes low, I mean, you should just be,

Starting point is 00:49:50 how can I earn more fiat to buy more crypto. Yeah. What, what, me and Sam been talking, do you think Elon Musk says what he says for the price to go down and they go in and buy some so that you sell and if you're supposed to hold. Is that legit you guys think that Elon Musk is in that game? I think that Elon Musk is today's Jamie Diamond, right? So like a couple years ago Jamie Diamond of JPMorgan talks a bunch of shit about crypto. So at the price tax. He bought up some. And now he's preaching. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. that. that. th. that. that. that. th. th. th. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I bought up some and now he's preaching the you know praising Bitcoin yeah so yeah I think that's exactly what's going on. Elon Musk is interesting too because it's hard to tell you know where he stands and I think you guys have talked about the whole like Werner von Braun Braun how he was in his book in 1953 the head character you guys know about that? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I there's something weird. There's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's something's there's something there's there's there's there's there's something there's something there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the's the the the th's something th's something th's something thi thi's something something something something thi's something thi's something thi's something something thi thi thi the the the the their their their there's there's the head character, you guys know about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah. So there's something weird with Elon, I don't know, ma'am, but. I also think he likes dangling that carrot. Yeah, like I think he likes having the power of like pumping and dumping. For me, whether it's him, Mark Cuban, all these guys are, I just get really, really worried when we start looking to billionaires as superheroes. And you know, I mean like Mark Cuban now was crying his ass off because he lost a, and I think you only lost like 75 grand, but he lost like 75 grand. I know it's only, and like people are like only, but when you're a quote unquote, a billionaire. You know, in a basketball team? 75 grand isn't that much. And know it's only and like people are like only but when you're a quote quote, a billionaire.

Starting point is 00:51:25 You own a basketball team? 75 grand isn't that much and now he's calling for regulation, which to me is just like how can we fuck the little guy and allow the big guys just to do whatever they want. So what is happening right now in the shit coin universe. This is what millionaires and billionaires have been doing forever. They just do their own rules and now you want to, listen, if you go in and you overextend yourself an investment on comrocket and then you lose your money, it's like you have no one to blame but yourself. You're in comracket. Well the people I, the people I that are hurting the most right now are the people that

Starting point is 00:52:06 loaned against their crypto right before this collapse, you know, and got cash out and then use that to buy more crypto. Those people are, I've been reading about a few of these people on Reddit and they're just down, you know, exponentially. Yeah. That's a bad idea to buy tha the tha tha tha tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's tho. tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho thooooo that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the way. That's a bad idea. That was not. Well that's a bad idea to buy more crypto because that's you know what they did? They saw Elon must do that. He took all this money out to buy like half a billion dollars worth of Bitcoin but he had the money to pay it right off.

Starting point is 00:52:40 Everyone's like I'm because I that that oh, I can get this much money from Celsius. Oh, I'll take that, buy more and then slowly pay it off. Well, what happens if everything crashes and birds? Then you're stuck holding this bag. That's what happened with the, the 2008 collects girl. I hate, I hate like, like, little bitches. I don't know, it's like, if you get into something and you lose out like again like you said you have no one to blame for yourself but but it just these people with like the victim mentality I mean Kingley and I didn't bitch and cry when we got into bit connect and lost you know a couple thousand you know like you know, then that's the thing too. I think is part of the Elon Musk or, you know,

Starting point is 00:53:25 a lot of these big talking hits is that, yeah, maybe they are actually trying to get people in and out at the wrong time so that government does come in and try to regulate it. The thing is, it's unregulatable and that's try to to say you know this is banned or that is banned or we're going to go after this company but but at the end of the day it's you know it's it's be your own bank and with that comes it comes it comes risks so you should know what you're doing but but you know I think there's a so much opportunity in the space that it's definitely worth the risk right and to tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. theate. the. the their their their the. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. theeeeeeean. theeeeeeeeeean. ty. ty. ty. ty. theeeee. theeeeee. theee. the. their't know what they're doing. Let me give you advice. Find a local Bitcoin meetup. Go and socialize and learn and ask questions. Go on Google.

Starting point is 00:54:11 Figure it out. It's got to be running the Las Vegas Bitcoin meetup since 2014. That's actually how we met from a Bitcoin meetup. Oh, snaps. Bitcoin love is that going to be named one of your kids? Bitcoin? That's to be named the one of your kids Bitcoin? Are you named one of them? Our dog named Satoshi. So you guys were nice enough to bring me out to shit coin 2020, 2021. I had a wonderful time. Miami is the future by the way it is what the what this country, everyone will, is gonna be attractive and look like they do pornography. That is gonna be the future of this country. But shit coin was great, you know,

Starting point is 00:54:54 everybody was over at, there's a lot of people at Bitcoin, but there was a lot of people at shit coin. And what was the feedback you guys got from shitcoin and basically what some people thought of Bitcoin 2021. We had such a great time. Yeah the shit coin crowd is more of our crowd. There's a lot of Bitcoin, you know what they call Bitcoin maximalists at the Bitcoin conference which which it's hard to get in, have these conversations over and over

Starting point is 00:55:23 and debates with these Bitcoin maximalists. Ultimately we just we just feel that you know anybody should be able to try to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho some some some some people people people people tho tho th some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some th th in, have these conversations over and over in debates with these Bitcoin maximalists. Ultimately, we just feel that, you know, anybody should be able to try whatever type of cryptocurrency or get into whatever cryptocurrency that they won. And it's, you know, it's an individual choice, free market. Yeah, I feel like shit coin was like that, like dirty, grungy kind of feel to it, you know, like an underground feel to it, while like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like all like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like an underground feel to it, while like all like the commercialized bankers who are in suits or like roaming the halls at Bitcoin 2021. It's like more of our crowd. Yeah. But we had, well, you know, we were a sponsor of shit coin. We had a booth there, and we had great feedback for, you know, what we're doing and how we're doing. And we've talked to a lot of people about our foot token the the the too too too to to the too the too to to to too the too the too too the too the the too. the the their, too. And, their, too. And, to be to be th. th. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, we're doing, and we talk to a lot of people about our foot token that we'll be releasing in the next couple months here that we're really excited

Starting point is 00:56:08 about that's actually modeled after Bitcoin, but will actually be a lot more useful than Bitcoin because it'll be fast and free for transactions versus, you know, what we're seeing in Ethirium and Bitcoin today and a lot of the other, you know slower, more expensive, thiiiiiiiiii...aa.a.a.a. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's is is is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's, that's is that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's actually that's that's that's that's that's that's that's types of cryptos out there. Yeah we're excited. Well you know Bitcoin is very interesting because you know a lot of people talk about how slow it is it's practical use but my question is is is Bitcoin just going to be the gold of the digital currency like where it's just you hold it and you it's practical thing is that you could sell it and that's where it's value is and then these other tokens the tho th th th th th th th o th o th o th o tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho the the the tho the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. tho thi. tho tho to to to to to. to. to. toe to. toke to. to. toke. toke. toke. to. toke. to. the the's practical thing is that you could sell it. And that's where it's value is and then these other tokens will become what is used for transactions. Like I can't go to, you know, 7-Eleven with a fucking gold coin and be like, one Marlboro

Starting point is 00:56:59 light please, you can't really do that. So, do you see that as a fear? because that's kind of my feel the thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's that's that's that's that's that's where it's where it's that's where it's, that's, that's where that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's kind of my feel on what Bitcoin's going to become. I don't believe so because ultimately I believe that these cryptocurrency's are meant to be used as currency or a money so the reason why gold isn't money is because it is slow and expensive so if Bitcoin's as slow and expensive as a technology then I think ultimately it will get favored out for another technology or another cryptocurrency to take over its place. You know, I've been using Bitcoin to pay people, you know, developers and and you know merchants and you know merchants and for now eight years. And we've lived off of Bitcoin for years as well. And it's just, especially since last May,

Starting point is 00:57:47 the last happening event where the, you know, the Bitcoin inflation rate went in half. It's a spend, it's a network, it's been way too congested. So, ultimately, I believe that something will replace Bitcoin as another, number one cryptocurrency. We don't know what that is yet. You know, it has the network effect. It has the brand name right now, but I believe Bitcoin is the is the

Starting point is 00:58:10 myspace of the crypto world. Damn. Damn. Tom is going to be out again. But I, you know, at the same time I do like, you know, I still love Bitcoin. I just see, you know, I see the development of Bitcoin being a lot slower than potentially, you know, maybe it should be. And I see a lot of other coins that are, I believe, are making more of the right moves.

Starting point is 00:58:34 Now, if you ask a Bitcoin maximalist that was at like, you know, Bitcoin 2021 conference, they would scream at me for saying all these things. But ultimately, you know, I- Your anti-freedom! Ultimately, it's, again, it's a market mechanism. The faster, the faster and more efficient and, you know, less expensive technology will win in the end. I don't see why we would use Bitcoin if we had another choice out there. So one of the interesting thing was at your, at Shitcoin 2021 was that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that interesting thing was at your, at shit coin 2021 was that Ross's mom, what was Ross's name, the guy who got thrown in jail for for Silk Road? What's his name? Ross Albrecht? Ross Albrecht. His mother was there. I took some pictures

Starting point is 00:59:23 with. We've had her on the show. We've had her on the show. Why is his case so important to you guys? Because you guys have been really championing him, help supporting his mother. Why is this so important to you? Yeah, well, because my father actually has been incarcerated for over 28 years for nonviolent drug offense, less than $800 with a cocaine from 1993 in Florida. I have 50 more years to go in his sentence. Unbelievable! Unbelievable! Unbelievable! It is incredibly tragic. That how long has he been in jail? 20 over 28 years now. 28 years for drugs. I think that you do to yourself, the crime comes from the fact that you black market it

Starting point is 01:00:15 and that people have to do shady shit to get it and it's like you just know that whoever got your dad the coke is probably working for the CIA and they're profiting off of these this drug trip. Yeah well he was actually set up by the cops. Yeah he was he was set up by his ex-girlfriend at the time who wanted to marry him and she got busted so and then she ultimately once he got convicted she actually committed suicide because she felt so bad about it. But yeah, I mean, so, you know,

Starting point is 01:00:49 I recommend, you know, I'm not sure if you guys got to watch it yet, but every listener and you guys too, I would recommend listening to Ross Albrick's, his, 2021 speech. Yeah, yeah, it's 2021 speech. He called Bitcoin magazine from prison and and gave about a 30 minute talk. It's the first time he's spoken out since the eight years that Ross has been in prison. And they actually, the prison threw him in the hole for it. So it was very powerful,

Starting point is 01:01:22 made us cry like babies. And I think it's one of those speeches, I think that puts a lot of things into perspective. Um, and yeah, I just think everyone should watch it. It actually led to a decision that we are, we made, and that's to start a foundation to basically free nonviolent offenders incarcerated in the United States. And so that that means starting with Ross Ulbricht, you know, we're going to be raising funds and potentially holding protests, you know, and rallies in his honor to help raise awareness and hopefully get some legislators moving on this because right now Ross is

Starting point is 01:02:05 sentenced to two life sentences plus 40 years for creating and sustaining the Silk Road. And ultimately we want to bring a lot of awareness to just all yeah a a lot of nonviolent offenders that are that are incarcerated right now because you know in the freest country in the world apparently we have the highest prison population and you know a quarter to half a million of the prison population are non-violent offenders that probably should not be in there it's a waste of taxpayer money it's inhumane and if you listen to Ross's speech you know he goes into it more deep where he's just like he says it many times, I want

Starting point is 01:02:45 you to understand what it's like losing your freedoms. And you know, Ross at the end of the day, he made a website and people sold drugs on there that you could argue took a lot of violence off the streets in the way that he did it. And it's just, you know, it's not the right the right thing. It's not what right what they're doing to my father and it affects in Ross and so many others and it affects you know family, friends. It has a whole network effect that it really screws over a lot of people specifically everywhere in the world but but definitely really bad here in the US. And there's even you know even just with like the drug war itself a lot of things are becoming more legal legal legal, legal, you know, more legal every day and yet people are in prison for maybe, you know, for just them not making the right decision, yeah, just based

Starting point is 01:03:31 on our date. We're making decisions that we all do, like that we've, you know, we've all smoked weed, and we've all been in possession of weed or many of us, and you know, some are sitting in prison cells for, you know, 20 plus years because of, it's just, it's ridiculous. It's even in, in Vada, which is like corporate vices, you know, it's like Nevada outside of Clark County, prostitution is legal, which I agree with. I think prostitution is the most capitalist of everything. Whether morally or not, you like it or not, that's not really the point. The point is like, who, who is, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's like, it's, it's, it's like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, like, it's like, like, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,. Whether morally or not, you like it or not, that's not really the point.

Starting point is 01:04:07 The point is like, who's the victim? There's no violence, nobody's being, nothing's being stolen. Those are the only things that should be involved in prison. Did you steal something? And or did you hurt somebody? Outside of that, let it cares man I go oh there's married man who are doing our visiting prostitution well you know what that's that's

Starting point is 01:04:29 a personal issue that shouldn't be a legal issue you should not be throwing especially okay single guys who aren't married who can't get laid they got pay for that that's a transaction man I mean it's a legal transaction do you have something yeah yeah guess how much the U.S. seized from Silk Road? How much? One billion Bitcoin. Guess who kept it all? They're not giving it away? They're not gonna. It's still in a wallet? You can see it on the... What is it in? Like a billion? You can go on the block? You can go on the blockchains. It's, you can, it. to see. to see. to see. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the, thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. the wallet there that's got a lot of the Silk Road coins still just sitting there. Just sit in there and eventually it's going to be there. The US Marshals also did a couple, I think they did two or three auctions where they

Starting point is 01:05:13 started auctioning some of it. Yeah. I think one of our, one of our investors in my previous company actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually. Actually bought a chunk of it right the craziest thing about the Silk Road story is that the biggest drug dealers on the Silk Road Got nothing only served only served 10 years And I'm we had her on and it's been a while since she'd be on but what was their argument for giving him such a huge? He try to kill someone but that someone was a cop it was all an inside job like they were just trying to Oh, that was it yeah, they were they their their their their their their their th th th th th they were th th they were th th th th they were th th th th th th th th th th thi thi their their their their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument argument their argument their argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument argument their argument argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their argument their their argument their their their their their their their their they were they were they were they were they were they were thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi argument their argument thi argument their argument their argument thi tried to kill someone but that someone was a cop it was all an inside job like they were just trying to catch them on a yeah they were trying to catch him on a thing and they sent him a picture of someone dead and the person wasn't dead and they were just trying to make him seem

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Starting point is 01:07:36 Have you done that before? Go see someone in prison though? It's the worst, man. They heard you like cattle into these things. And you feel like you've done something wrong. Yeah, yeah. Did you do over the phone? No, well, I talked him over phone, but to get to see him,

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Starting point is 01:08:46 No, I can't, I mean, honestly, like I can't even talk about it with like, I'm just like enraged. Yeah, I mean, you know, a sign of a banana republic is when your court systems don't follow any laws. And that's where we're at right now. You have prosecutors prosecuting criminals that aren't violent, that haven't stole anything, and you have judges

Starting point is 01:09:11 and law enforcement in fault and not enforcing the law. And that's where we're at right now. And then you have things going to Supreme Court and the Supreme Court not enforcing the Constitution. And that's where we're at right now. It is unchecked power. No. That was one thing. That was. That's violent violent violent violent violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's violent. That's. That's violent. That's. That's violent. That's. That's violent. That's. That's violent. That's violent. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the th. the thi. the the th. thi. that th. that that thi. that th. th. th. th. the Constitution. And that's where we're at right now. It is unchecked power. That was one thing. That was one thing that Ross mentioned during his speech. And was that, you know, hey, with the crypto community, like how croudy was of everybody. He actually apologized if he brought any negative attention to the crypto industry. But he also said, hey, like, whether they want it or not, we are changing the global economy. And that is, that's absolutely true. And so he basically challenged us to, you know,

Starting point is 01:09:57 to basically change the criminal justice system. Because no one agrees with, just like you said, like there's so many things wrong with it right now. And there's, there, then I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. said like there's there's so many things wrong with it right now and there's there I have I have like just a couple of you know ideas of simple tweaks that we can we can utilize and this is what we're going to be you know lobbying and promoting with the Float Foundation and developing a really actually a group a boots on the ground strategy where we have we hold peaceful protests at prisons at the capitals both on the state and in D. and and and and in. the the federal federal federal federal federal federal federal federal. the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the. the, the, the, the, th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the th, both on the state and in D.C. and federal, so that basically they can see that, hey, we're here, we're watching.

Starting point is 01:10:33 We all know that like there's issues with this current system that we can fix. And let's really, you know, let's not paint the politicians in, necessarily negatively. Let's give them the opportunity to do the right, make the right choice and do the right thing. And really like try to empower them with the local media and also, you know, content creators, including yourself. I think you'd be interested in getting involved. To show like, hey, hey, Mr. Politician, we're reuniting families of nonviolent people. And this is like.... It to.... It to be, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like, it's, like, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, to be. It's, to be. to be. to be. to be. to be, to be, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to make, to make, to make, to make, to make, to make, to make, to to make. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the the the. the., we're reuniting families of nonviolent people and this is like... It's a cause that a lot of the population can get behind.

Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah, and it could be something that can help you get reelected or get elected if this is part of your your platform. Because that's all they care about. Well, I think that you guys hit on and have with the election stuff. And I think it has to be a silent war in terms of just. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it, it's thi, it's thi, it's the thi, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi. It's the thi. It's the the election stuff. And I think it has to be a silent war in terms of just getting in and starting to take over. And it can't be just one person either. It has to be a coordinated effort. Like what we're seeing parents do with these school boards, they're going in there, they're taking over the school board and they're getting rid of critical race theory. Because people are tired of their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the're taking over the school board, and they're getting rid of critical race theory. Because people are tired of the malarkey that we're teaching our kids. And you have a lot of opportunists who are just taking advantage of this, pushing a narrative

Starting point is 01:11:59 that does not exist for cash and prizes. And that's kind of how you have to do it. Now, we had talked, we don't have to talk the city the city the city the city the city about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about, the the the the the the the the their, of, of, of, of, of, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their their their, of their their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, of their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, that's kind of how you have to do it. Now, we had talked, we don't have to talk to city, but we had talked about taking over a town in a particular state. I probably mentioned it earlier, but in case I did, I don't want to mention it now. But taking over a town and basically like making it a free city, you know, getting involved in law enforcement, getting involved in all aspects of the political process.

Starting point is 01:12:33 And I think that's how it happens. If I had a billion dollars, I would start a network, a podcast, that are strictly meant for local news and interacting. Because there's not enough of that in these podcasts. Nobody's paying attention to everything on a local level because that, my humble opinion, is where the real power is. Absolutely. And I actually saw this firsthand in 2012 because I was part of the takeover of the Republican Party in Clark County, which holds Vegas, the largest county in Nevada,

Starting point is 01:13:12 and I was able to see with my own eyes that, hey, it only takes about 200 to 300 people to take over the largest county in Nevada that's in Vegas, or that's, you know, as it represents Vegas. And basically by taking over that small, local part of the Republican party the the the Republican the Republican the Republican the Republican, the Republican, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, th., th.c.c.c.c.c. ta. ta. ta.c. thi. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta, ta, ta, ta, which, which, which, which, which, which, tolk. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, toluuuuu. I's, ta. I'm, ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. tola. toluuu. t represents Vegas. And basically by taking over that small local part of the Republican Party, we were able to push Ron Paul to be on the national ticket for the 2012 election. So this is something that I have experience doing. I know people that have experience doing, it's definitely possible with a small amount of number, especially in rural communities. And the place that we're looking at, it would take, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to push to push to to push to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, thi thi thi thi tak tak ta, ta, try try try tha try tha that, that, that, that, that, to to to to that, especially in rural communities, and the place

Starting point is 01:13:46 that we're looking at, it would take, you know, probably 75 to 100 people based on our estimates. And I think I agree with you, Sam. That is, that is the future of, you know, or what we really need to do is, is, you know, good men kind of standing up and doing the right thing. And this is, I think, a great strategy to get that thuuuuuuuu. to get to get to get thu. to get thu. to get thi to get thi to get thi. to get that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. to get, thi. their their to get. to get. to to their their their. their. their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. to be, to be, to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. toe. toe. toe. toe. t. toe. toda. toe. toda. toe. today, tha. tha. toe. toe. toe. toe. the right thing. And this is, I think, a great strategy to get that going. Free State Project West. Yeah, yeah, so we actually, you know, we're here for WorkBest, which has the free state projects, which they, I believe kind of, you know, I love what free state project is doing,

Starting point is 01:14:17 but I think it's kind of too, for a full state. This is something even like I wish that I wish Ron Paul ran for governor of Texas versus running for the president because I believe he could have probably won as the Texas governor and could have instituted a lot more change that way. But so yeah, focusing kind of on the county and the city and the county specifically because if you can get the sheriff on your side and you can get the police departments of the major cities in that county, then you, you, you know, you know, you know, you have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have have a a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the police, the police, the police, the police, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the.. the. te. tea. tea.ea. tea. te. te. te. te. their, their, the the the the of the major cities in that county, then you you know you have a lot of power as far as what you can do and you know and continuing with the trend of American ideals like like you know freedom. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day it's all about community especially right now I think people need community. Shit is going down and I don't think that there's ever been a time more important to get

Starting point is 01:15:06 together with like-minded people to really come together and teach your children and grow sustainable. We can't let Bill Gates buy all the farmland. Yeah, I mean, we, I mean, it's time for us to stand up and do something. And so we can do that as a community. I completely agree. I am. I am. I mean, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. Like, the. Like, the. Like, the. the. Like, the. Like, the. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's time for us to stand up and do something. And so we can do that as a community. I completely agree. I am, I mean, like, the Fed is fucked as it is, but now we're starting to see that not only are they, are they, you know, destroying the dollar. But they are purposely bailing out companies when giving them such giant wads of money that

Starting point is 01:15:48 they are turning around and buying everything up. Bill Gates keeps getting, you know, and guess what, everybody, Trump gave his foundation a lot of money and then right after that, what did he start doing, buying up all the farmland? Okay? The government gave Jeff Bezos money for a space program and what do you do? Turn around and bought MGM, right? Okay, so now we got Black Rock, which takes over the Fed. They give everybody a trillion dollar bailouts, they give you a thousand dollars, they gave these companies a trillion dollar buyouts, and what are these companies

Starting point is 01:16:25 doing? Buying up all the property. I mean, this is where we're at, man. And like for me, man, it's like how, this show is all about reaching across the aisle and talking to people that maybe we don't always agree with on everything. A lot of times we do, The ones who will come on the show, see the value of the show, when they can get past the name. Some people can't get past the name, and that's fine. You know, you're missing out an opportunity to reach a passionate fan base

Starting point is 01:16:55 and a very lovable people who care. So, you know, so I'm always like, who can I reach out? Who can I reach out to that I think my listeners would love to know their side of the discussion? You know, Jennifer Brin, right? Like she is pretty liberal, right? But we found very much common ground on a lot of stuff. And to me, that's really important. You know, when we had Major Torrey, was that his name, right? When we had Amon, he, he, he, he, he, he, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, that's really important. You know, when we had Major Tori, was that his name, right? Right, when we had him on, he, we found a lot of common ground.

Starting point is 01:17:31 There's been like one person we didn't find common ground with. Yeah, other than that, we've been pretty good with everybody. Right, so it's like, that's my next thing. How do we reach out to the disenfranchised black community? How do we reach out to the disenfranchised gay community? Feminist community? How do we reach out and realize that, you know, there is strength in numbers and that they're they're being treated as useful idiots in in these situations, used by very powerful people who are just getting them to do their dirty work. Well and that's why I believe that actually the libertarian message which I

Starting point is 01:18:11 would include you in that or volunteerist or anarchists whatever you know I know you probably don't want to put labels on yourself. I registered with the libertarian party I just don't I think I'm try to get Dave Smith on to talk about all the work he's doing with the with the libertarian.... the libert libert libert libert libert libert libert libert libert libert libertarian.. the libertarian. the libertarian party. I just don't I think I'm gonna try to get Dave Smith on to talk about all the work he's doing with the with the libertarian party. I'm very concerned about joining any group. Oh no I'm not even talking about the party itself. I'm just saying about you know a small yeah small L libertarian you just the idea ideology. I believe that you know when people ask me my politics I think I'm a centrist. I'm a cent cent cent cent cent. I'm a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I'm they. I'm the they. I'm they. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. Yeah. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the. the. the. the. I'm. L. L. I. that when people ask me in my politics, I think I'm a centrist. I agree, I agree with both sides and I believe, you know, small L libertarians, including and also big L libertarians, agree with both sides of the aisle.

Starting point is 01:18:52 When it comes to being fiscally conservative, you can bring that message to the right. When it comes to being socially liberal, you can bring that message to the left. And so I think it's, you the, you, you, you the, you the, you the, you, you, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, and, and, tho, and, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, tho, and, and, tho, and, tho, and, th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, thee. And, thin. And, theea. And, thin. And, thin. And, th. thin. th. the th. th. And, the th. And, that message to the left. And so I think it's, you know, the libertarian message or really what I believe is like, you know, kind of even the founding father message. It speaks to both sides and there is that bridge to make. And you can even see that with, you know, again, bringing up Ron Paul, his, a lot of his message when people actually studied what he said, versus just reading the headlines in the media................. I, they. I, they. I, they. It. I. It. It. It, the the the the the the the the they. I. I. I, they. It, they. It, toea, toea, toe. It's, toeck. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, they, they. It's, they. It's, toe, toe, toe, toe. It is, toe. It's, toe. It's, toe. And, toe. And, toe. I, they. I, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. they. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. It's, into what he said versus just reading the headlines in the media as an old kook as they labeled him. You know, they, they agreed with, with kind of both, both sides of the aisles,

Starting point is 01:19:33 agreed with, you know, ending the wars, being, you know, then the right, being fiscally conservative. So I think I think that's where we have a lot of work to do as far as the messaging, but it is there and the opportunity is basically on us. I completely and I really agree. Johnny got me into libertarianism. What are your thoughts on like the party right now, Johnny? Well, it's funny. I was there in 2012 also. And I remember that whole process. It was the point you make though about trying to do that at a national level th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the opportunity. thi the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. the opportunity. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It was the point you make, though, about trying to do that at a national level and how challenging that is,

Starting point is 01:20:09 because we did try to do that at a national level. And the party just kicked our ass. I mean, they cheated. They just flat out lied, the Republican party lied and cheated at the convention. We had the numbers to change the rules and they I mean that it was just deceit and and well that's my whole thing with everything there's honesty in the conspiracy community this notion that the Republicans are the good guys or they care more is just straight up laughable everything you hate about the Democrats

Starting point is 01:20:40 the Republicans did 10 years ago 20 years ago it's the same thing. They are just spit roasting the country. So stop getting in to parties, man. And see, I don't, I thought, there was a time I thought that was the answer, taking over the Republican Party, because the way it's written, you know, it can't be done. But in practicality, you can't do it. Banana Republic, when you don't follow your own rules, that's when you have problems, okay? So the whole thing is like, and you could say whatever you want about Trump,

Starting point is 01:21:15 and you know, I mean, like I have some real problems with the guy, you know, operation war, we can hire Fouchy, we can get it taxes, we can to do to do to do do the to do a a a a the th, th, the th, thua thua to do a thua thu a thu a thu thu tho a tho a tho, tho, tho, tho, tho tho tho tho tho thi, tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi, you thi, you thi, you can, you thi, you can't, you the thun, you thun, you thun, you thun, you the thun, you the the the the the the the the the the the the thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thia., you thi, you thi, thci, we can get it taxes, we can get into a lot of stuff that dude did more. But if one thing he seems to have done is to highlight the fucking problem with the two-party system and UFC and you could shit on Q all you want, I say it all the time and I'll challenge anybody to it. These people in Q pulled out their money, pulled out their time, pulled out their attention, and that's what you have to do to the political party. Now both the Republicans and the Democrats aren't getting funding like they used to. Republicans a little bit more because there's still groups have fallen to that. But I think the Democrat party's dead, and I think it's just a matter of time until the Republicans die too. When people take a look at it, stop worshipping parties.

Starting point is 01:22:12 Start working on individuals. Our COO, he on his like own time, he like makes these fun little cups with stickers, and he actually got thrown off of Etsy because of a cup and a sticker that says two parties, one cup. They like, they deleted his account. Why, why is that? It just makes no sense to me. It makes no sense, but you know what, like, we've been. Sam. Yeah, I think people are waking up to the bullshit of that too. I mean, people are waking up to Operation Mockingbird in full

Starting point is 01:22:52 of fact. I mean, James Corbyn, have you been seeing how that dude, that late night, fat British dude is getting his dick kicked in for this propaganda that he's been singing and just like Stephen Colbert had his hero on, what's his name for the Daily Show, John Stewart? And John Stewart's like, dude, this is all bullshit. And you saw Steve and Cobert like fucking melting. It's like, it's like, dude, we are watching the death of an institution, which is late night television.

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Starting point is 01:23:37 No, butthe guys are just, there's no edge to their humor. I mean, to go from Letterman to him, I mean, it's just, it was, they're sell out. My favorite is like when Elon Musk went on Saturday Night Live, like, during their intros it's like just a bunch of the cast members like in their masks, like walking around town square or whatever it's all. Yeah, you know, around New York City and it's just like, oh my God, like, the mainstream media, I think, is just pushing, you know, that narrative of just like propaganda prop, they're just shoving it down people's throats.

Starting point is 01:24:12 And I think, I think the pandemic has woken up so many people. To kind of like just the bullshit, right? And so, yeah, I would agree. I think it's all, it's all dying. You know, now are you seeing all the whistleblowers on freaking like mainstream news channels going to Project Baratas? Did you see that Ivory, what's her name? I've re, heckle girl? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that all of even Hollywood is just becoming relevant now. And I think that was inevitable anyway because of the internet.

Starting point is 01:24:48 Now last year I think all of us were locked up so it kind of pushed that in. We couldn't even go to the movies. But I think that's what's again just kind of circling back to like float and just social networking and censorship. I think that's what's so powerful about social media is that we had, we had the mainstream media control the boob tube and TV, you know, television set for so long and then here comes to social media where we're actually a much more, you know, better way to communicate with each other and, you know, looking to more things and do research and share knowledge. And then now they're realizing like, oh no, like, this is getting out of control. So they're trying to bring that back and that control back in.

Starting point is 01:25:27 But thanks to, you know, technology like Bitcoin and all this decentralized technology, now we're able to escape that paradigm too and create our own reality. And so that's what I just think is so exciting. So amongst, you know, like everything seems seems like it's burning right now. But, but I try to stay an optimist and believe that we can pull through this if we, you know, if we implement the right strategies. But it does take us, like, we can't rely on the government, we can't rely on Trump, we can't rely on Q, we can't rely on anybody. We have, if you have if you have an idea, if you have an idea an idea an can back, whether it's you know even signing up for alternative platforms or doing anything to this this project or that, it's a time to, you know, it's time to have the uncomfortable conversations and it's time to have an inner dialogue and really just connect the dots, you know, it's it's staying cognitively dissonant is no longer an option.

Starting point is 01:26:25 You have to pick a side. You have to pick aside. They are drawing the line in the sand. And so now it's time to stand firm and let you believe it. Because people will back you. Pulling out your attention, your time, your money from a system is much different than being apathetic to everything and being like, what can I do?

Starting point is 01:26:47 That to me is disgusting. Pulling out all your energy, like I turned off the radio station today because I just can't stand what they're spewing anymore. And it's going the same thing with serious radio. I'm sure they're taking anybody ads dollar, and the CDC's like, here. Here's a ton of it and I'm just getting bombarded with stupid. Dude, you're flipping out. The day I was in the car with you and you're trying to watch, try and their own institutions. Yeah, absolutely. I was just thinking, maybe we should reach out to the CDC to put ads on float.

Starting point is 01:27:28 And then we can just have like a fake news thing like a quarter around it. That's so funny, dude. All these, this is a bullshit ad. Here you go. Oh shit. And I just, you know, for me, man, it's like, have to keep score though. That's the biggest thing. So many these lying scumbag opportunities are going to move on like it didn't happen. And we have to remember this.

Starting point is 01:27:53 And you know to get to those levels like these Stephen Colbert and Ellen, you have to be a throat-slashing soul-sucking scumbag.ag and like we need to hold them accountable. You know, we need to hold all them accountable. Ellen should not be allowed to ever show her face on anything ever again. For how she treated people, how she allowed her staff to take the fall for her. You know, it's like you watch these videos like, are these conspiracy theorists who like show the art in her room and it's like decapitation shit? Right? And you're like, yeah, she like some weird like adrenochrome art in the back? And you're like, they all do, right? It seems like it. And you're like, how do you explain that away? How do you explain that away? When you have that, fucking shirt on with the blood face and the

Starting point is 01:28:45 weird writing on your arm, how do you just explain that away? You're a grown woman, why do you, and it's like a brand? It's called Off White and I get it, but you're like a six-year-old woman, like why are you wearing that shit? What do you mean off-white? Virgil Abelow is a fashion designer. I don't know if that shirt was but he's a famous fashion designer. Well, it's like a fucking some weird ass Hillary chopping off girls' faces shit. Some frazzle drip shit. Some frazzle drip shit and like maybe that's part of the siop that they get us all talking about it but either way she had an email she told the CIA she do anything they told her to and she needs the fucking go and ultimately like hey guess what dude television if it's not giving you what you want and it's trying to brainwash you should turn it off

Starting point is 01:29:33 and read a fucking book how about that one yeah it's bring it to a shooting range and just take a couple shots at it yeah I mean time to start shooting our televisions. Johnny, what'd you want to say? It's based on an art, an art painting or something from years ago, I guess. What the weird, fucking spiky head red thing? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's probably some art done by a satanic piece of shit.

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Starting point is 01:30:30 you start seeing people lose their identity because they're they're worshipping altar that is it's thank God dying just straight up dying and it's really sad and it is what it is. That's when you take up, you yank them into the woods, and then you just sit there in silence and try to just... Or, of course, feed a mushroom? I mean, maybe, that's what the taste. Dude, we were in Bakersfield doing the show and this extremely gay couple came in. Extremely gay.

Starting point is 01:31:05 Both of them? Super, like, super flaming black guy, chunky trance, okay? They come in, dude. And within five minutes, the black guy's screaming at the bar about racism and they storm out. And I kind of follow them all. I'm like, what just happened? They're like, this place is racist. I know racism. this is racism. I'm like, calm down, dude. Come down. This is like a very free thinker's show.

Starting point is 01:31:31 And he's like, no, I know racism when I see. Well, out of nowhere, dude. And this has happened that a lot of my shows lately, like, mushroom s So this guy's got a fat sack of shrooms. And I'm really, really consumed with getting black people to do mushrooms because I just don't think they do shrooms at all. And I'm like, have you ever done shrooms? He's like, no, I've never done shrooms. I'm like, time for you to do shrooms. Eat some shrooms, tie, time, time, time, time, tie, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, and t, and I, and I, and I'm t, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm tom, and I'm th, and I'm to to to to to to to to to to, and I'm really, and I'm really, and I'm really, and I'm really, and I'm really, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I to, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I th, and I tri, tri, triu..... And, really really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, try, really, try, try, tri, try, trip and talk to God and realize it's not that bad. I am not doing the truths. They just, they shatatat, sauttato off,

Starting point is 01:32:09 like shah, shah, shah, off. And I was like, that's where we are. That's my next move. You guys decentralize the internet. I will work on getting black people. We should start counting how many people leave. It's been the last one of the first no reason Eddie Bravo singing in these guys. They've mistrued with Eddie Brabub saying. Dude, I walk people all the time and I enjoy it. It's what little punk rock I have left in my life.

Starting point is 01:32:33 Guys, great show today. Did we miss anything? Anything else you want to talk about? Uh, are you coming to the next float house? Yeah, I'm of course I'm in. I'll gig with you guys any time. Just gotta hit me up. I'll show up. I'll write enough so it's new. I always like, oh, do they hear. We would love to just sit around a fire and shoot the shit with you. I saw Tino that was wearing the Float Fest hat in his latest Facebook picture. Yeah, yeah, dude. I mean, like, you know. the crypto. I love th. th. th. th. th. th. the f f f f the f f f f f f f f f the f. the f f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the the the to to to to to to to to to th. the to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the th. th. th. the th. the th. the. the. the. to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to toe. to to the. the.ino loved it. Everybody loved it. And I would do, I love doing crypto. I love doing crypto and decentralized social media events. Anytime all the time.

Starting point is 01:33:14 Just hit me up and I'll come. You know, grab my backpack and hitchhike out there. So we'll make it happen. Yeah, we'd love to discuss that more. And then, I'd love to discuss to discuss to discuss discuss to discuss to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to discuss, to'd love to discuss that more and then getting you potentially, oh yeah, I'd love to discuss local governance stuff too. I know you have more of an interest there. And also let's talk, you know, let's focus up with talking to Rockfin or whoever else. You know, you think that we should talk to because again, we want to, you know, we're,

Starting point is 01:33:38 you know, we're competitors. Yeah, we're're also collaborators. Yeah. And I think all of us can really help each other. And we, you know, we need it. We have to team up in order to take on the Goliath. All of us, David's, need to team up. I totally agree and I hope people are open-minded. And, you know, it's like the more alternatives therethose simple things and that's fine too. You'll never, you know, and especially in like Latin America, you're up.

Starting point is 01:34:09 Oh, you can't get Mexicans off of Facebook. Yeah, they love Facebook. But they also have like very little like, they're very much controlled. They know the whole, they know the government. They're controlled by Marxism. they're theyme. they. know it and but this is last bastage of free speech and freedom so we got fight back guys thank you very much where can they find you if they want to find you I can go to join float dot com and I'm king on float and I'm Aaron on float super easy or on social media's KRH Edwards and you can find me on like big

Starting point is 01:34:43 tech platforms as Aaron Nakamoto but usually we're just promoting float so just join flow it takes two seconds and and support you know good people doing good things and thanks thank you again for having us on and just you know supporting us and letting us bring you you out to these random remote locations in the world I'm all about another list of the other ones that we want to bring it to. I'm here I'm here. I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the the the the the the their. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. to just just just just just to just to just to just just just just just just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to just. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I'm just just just just just just just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm t. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm all about it to. A whole other list of other ones that we want to bring it to. I'm here, I'm there, just hit me up. All right guys, I love you guys very much. Be safe, have fun over there.

Starting point is 01:35:11 Say hi to all the freedom people. And we will do it again soon. Love you guys and we'll see you guys soon. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind.

Starting point is 01:35:42 Tim foil hack. Tim foil hack.

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