Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #475: Was The Kent Massacre A F@LSE FL@G Operation With Taylor Hudak

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Starting point is 00:03:16 A lot of great shows are coming up. Just go to Sam Tripli. Now, if you miss the discord, because they're constantly blowing it up, there's actually a discord that is available. I believe it's called hat tinfoilers. If you go to that, you can find that on the discord. But if you're tired of people nuking the discord, just go to chat. to Sam Triply.com, and you can join Smack. It is my version of discord.

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Starting point is 00:06:09 Oh wow, Conspiracy Mocos tee shirts are up there. So go get on their female t-shirts. And how dope was that taxo that guy got on him? Yeah, dude, first of all I want to think again, the Alaskan swarm for coming out to Alaska and rocking. I go to to to to to the place to to to the to to to to the to to to the to to to the to to the the to to the the to go. I to go. I to go. I to to to go. I to the the to go. I to go. I'm the the, to go. I tooge. tooge. too. I too. I the the the the they. I they. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I go go go go go go go go go go. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm go. I'm go. I'm go. I'm go. I'm go. I'm go. t. I'm go. t. together. together. together. together. t. tecoo. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. there's, who knows if anyone listens to the show. And everybody showed up. I had a lot of people going, dude, I wanted to show up, but it was salmon fishing day, the first day of salmon fishing, the salmon are coming. So I understand, hopefully we'll come back soon. But I love the swarm.

Starting point is 00:06:37 There's a guy who just got a t-shirt of Timfall hat, aliens. Some guy did graffiti. I'm blown away. We're always blown away that anyone listens to the show. Obviously, we put out a lot of episodes last week and we got up to number 58. We love you very much. If you want to watch the show, because we've been shadow band everywhere, just go to Sam Tripoli.com, find the show there. And the thing about Sam Tripoli.com is each show has its own 24-hour-a-day radio station that you can listen to older episodes there. So if you want to chill and hear me over and over and over again,

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Starting point is 00:08:06 they can't access the channel where they are right now, so, or when, anyway. So it's not gonna be posted for a while. Probably I would imagine you'll see some new videos there, maybe when, probably around the time I get back to LA. That's because we hit them with the lawsuit, right? Is that why they're not suing them? Yeah, that's it.

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Starting point is 00:09:12 Okay, let's get into it. Super excited for today's guest. I saw her article and I'm like, oh, may I have to talk to her about this because it is, seems to be the beginning of a giant pattern that we've seen in US culture and politics. She's an independent journalist. Please welcome to the show, Teller Hudak. How are you? I'm doing well, thanks for having me.

Starting point is 00:09:37 Taylor, thanks for joining us. I really do appreciate it. I'm very excited to talk to you about your article and anything else you want to talk about. To start off, can you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself in case they don't know about you? Absolutely. So I'm an independent journalist and I tend to cover issues related to the corruption of the intelligence community, issues related to free speech, free press the

Starting point is 00:10:02 first amendment as well as censorship, surveillance, data gathering, and also your latest internet news as well, I've been taking on, as well as COVID-19 and sort of looking into the different perspectives with the virus and with the official narrative as well. But today, we're here to talk about an article published a few months ago, but new documents have surfaced related to May 4th, 1970 at Ken State University, so I'm just really looking forward to really diving into that. I want to get into that in a moment because it does involve something you brought up, which is the corruption within our intelligence community. Recently an article came out that can somewhat be considered, duh, but I think it's important to talk about and that is Pegasus, the Pegasus software

Starting point is 00:10:57 that is now being found on people's phones. And, you know, I think if you have one of these, you're somewhat, okay, they know what I'm doing, they're collecting the data somewhere, but I think a lot of people might not realize that, like, if the right software is on there, it can pin you to where you are. Now we're seeing that two people that were assassinated, it's believed that their phone had the Pegasus software on their phone, which allowed certain entities to know exactly where they are, and it could be involved in, you know, leading to the assassination.

Starting point is 00:11:34 What is your thoughts on that topic? Yeah, so first of all, I'm really happy to see this information come out. It's one more step towards accountability. Unfortunately, we do not see enough accountability, so it will be interesting to see what comes with this, but at least it's more awareness. And I think that it just really goes to show the great links that the intelligence communities will go to to censor people, to surveil people and to also cause harm to people they consider to be targets and dissidents. This is a pattern that we are

Starting point is 00:12:05 seeing happen time and time again. As I said, I covered the Assange case extensively. He was spied on targeted by the CIA. His entire family was his children are. And of course these journalists, not just Assange, but journalists all over the world who are in particular studying and investigating issues related to national security are going to be targets of the intelligence community and we see this becoming a global effort and I think that we are going to see just more of this come out but I think awareness is our first step as I said to accountability if there ever will be accountability of course. Yeah, I mean, that's the question. What can be done to rein in are just out of control intelligence community.

Starting point is 00:12:52 And ultimately, the question is, who do they work for? I mean, more and more, and this could even be said on law enforcement. Again, I have a lot of family law enforcement. My grandfather was a cop. I have family members who are currently cops. But more and more, it just seems like they are the bouncers for the elites, storm troopers. And they're not really gonna do anything unless the elites are in fact in danger.

Starting point is 00:13:20 I mean, these Antifa riots, we saw only going into porn, middle class, when they walked even near like Beverly Hills, everybody freaked out. You're like, but you're upset with the system. Those seem to be the people who are controlling the system. Yet nothing happened over there. Not that I'm calling for it, but it just seems like they pick their spots really well. And then we see this with basically the FBI. I mean, whether, not, not th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th And then we see this with basically the FBI. I mean, whether it's the finders called, stuff like that,

Starting point is 00:13:50 we see them picking and choosing where they apply law enforcement. I mean, who do you think our law enforcement works for? Oh, the intelligence community, I would say that the politicians we see on the news and they're more so the public face of what's going on behind the scenes. Really I think that it comes down to the intelligence community who is directing everything here and I think that's been going on for some time now and I think too that politicians obviously get corrupted, police get corrupted as well. And just recently I actually did a report where I covered,

Starting point is 00:14:27 it was a new story where they did a sort of content analysis of new police tactics and law enforcement tactics and it showed that over the past five years as people become more tech savvy, law enforcement also becomes more tech savvy and they build closer relationships with big tech savvy. Law enforcement also becomes more tech savvy and they build closer relationships with Big Tech. And there were over like 100,000 requests from all of the major Big Tech platforms combined to request for user data when it came to their investigations into specific targets. And in 85% of cases, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple,

Starting point is 00:15:04 the other Big Tech Giants, we're willing to just hand over that information. 85% of cases, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, the other Big Tech Giants, we're willing to just hand over that information. So I think that's another angle that we should also be concerned about is this merging of Big Tech, law enforcement, and the intelligence community as well. I recently saw the court. Yeah. That sounds like fascism to me.

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Starting point is 00:18:17 believe that the, like, let's say the Facebook movie was a giant facade to paint a picture of this kid who just was an outcast and you know at this college who came up with this thing and now it's huge and you're like or is it lifelog that the Pentagon stopped on the day that that that that Facebook was registered as a business. The day they stopped life log which was to collect all your data all the time. You know, and now you're looking at the Facebook, you're looking at Twitter, you're looking at Amazon, you know, Jeff Beso's father, grandfather started DARPA, there's all these connections to the government intelligence. And now we were competing against our own government, which is to me a form of Marxism and cash and eventually communism.

Starting point is 00:19:08 And I hate saying that because growing up when I people left, oh, it's a communist. I'm like, oh, whatever, crazy old guy. And I am old and I am crazy now. So maybe that's where I am, but that seems to be where we're heading. What are your thoughts on that seems to be where we're heading. What are your thoughts on that? Oh, absolutely. I was just going to also say here that I'm working on a new project.

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Starting point is 00:20:08 our government agencies, the intelligence community with big tech. Just the other day, of course, we saw White House press secretary, Jen Saki, say that they're monitoring Facebook posts. And then I said, wow, what does that say about our governments? The fact that they are okay with announcing this to the public tells me that they believe that we will accept this. And unfortunately, some people are accepting it. Whatever your perspective is on COVID-19 and so-called disinformation, nobody should be advocating for censorship and for the monitoring of your Facebook post or your social media post or private communications.

Starting point is 00:20:43 Unfortunately, that's happening. They've pinpointed 12 accounts. It's just so absurd. The fact in itself that they're doing that is absurd, but I think what's even more telling, as I said, is the fact that they can admit this. They're not even hiding it. Well, I totally agree. That means they've kicked what are you going to do about it? And as we go through time, you know, this whole thing about misinformation, it's only misinformation

Starting point is 00:21:08 if it goes against a government narrative. I mean, the Gulf of Tonkin was complete and utter misinformation, weapons of mass destruction, misinformation, Russian collusion, Russiagate, misinformation. I mean, it's just over and over and over again. And imagine if you held the media to the exact same. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the the same, it's the the the the their, it's the mean, it's just over and over and over again. And imagine if you held the media to the exact same, the mainstream media, to the exact same criteria that you want to hold independent journalists to. We would, there would be no CNN and MSNBC or Fox News.

Starting point is 00:21:41 They would be gone. Oh, absolutely. They are the biggest pushers of disinformation and misinformation. Rachel Maddow every single day for two, three years, which was pushing the Russia gate narrative, which I always thought was absolutely ridiculous. But now we know was complete nonsense and just not factually correct. And I think that if you look over time too, many things that were considered conspiracy theories turned out to be true. And then we just ignore the fact

Starting point is 00:22:14 that we previously called them conspiracy theories. So I think that if you're gonna get truth, you're gonna probably get it in the independent media, not the corporate media who is bought and paid for, as as as as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to as to be a the independent media, not the corporate media who is bought and paid for as your viewers know that, of course. Somebody trying to look up her tweets. Somebody tweeed something very funny. Oh, this person, Dave Hurd said, it seems like conspiracy theories these days

Starting point is 00:22:36 are just really spoiler alerts. Yeah, exactly. You know, just a year ago, many people who were in the independent meeeeeeeeeeeaaeaeaeaeae, I feel that they're going push for this. We could be entering this territory of vaccine passports where you have to show, again, proof of vaccination or negative test result to just get basic goods and services, to just go to the grocery store or to go to a bar or a restaurant. That was deemed totally crazy and you can talk about it. And now, what are we seeing happening in France? They have vaccine passports. Now, of course, I think they're starting to roll back a little bit on that. But that's just one very recent example of something that was considered to be conspiracy theory is just, to be, to be, to be, I, to be, I, I, I, to be, I, I, to be, I, I, to be, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to be, and, to be, and, to, and to, to, to, to be, to be, and then, to, to, to, to, to, and to, and to, and to, and to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, the, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, the to, to, the the to, thean out to be true. And of course, conspiracy theory is just a smear to use against people to discredit them because you hear that phrase or that term and you think, oh, that's nonsense. You don't want to be associated with that. Unfortunately, it's effective sometimes. I'm all about that action, though. I'm all about that. So I basically think it, and this is why this conversation could not be better timed. Because just last week it came out,

Starting point is 00:23:46 that the quote-unquote attempted kidnap of the Michigan governor by 15 white supremacist nationalists, that it turns out 12 of them were FBI informants. And that's the new word. And we saw that term used with the Haitian, uh, assassination of the Haitian, uh, the, the, quote, the, quote, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, quote, quote, quote, the, quote, quote, the, quote, quote, the, the, quote, quote, the, quote, quote, the, the, quote, the, the, quote, the, the, the, the, the, the,. And that's the new word. And we saw that term used with the Haitian, assassination of the Haitian president as well. Informants, which sounds like to me, agent provocateurs sent in to basically get some dimwitted idiot who would push to take a certain kind of action to get a

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Starting point is 00:25:08 because of their invisible hand in some shooting that either happened or was gonna happen. We see it, oh, I mean, the Wikileaks drops that basically, Stephen Paddock was either a CIA or FBI agent or agent provocateur. I mean, it just happens over and over, but this is why I'm really excited to have this discussion about what happened at Kent State.

Starting point is 00:25:35 So I think it's more relevant than ever, so where do you want to start on all this, Taylor? Yeah, so I just want to drive home the point here that this tactics we are seeing today, the infiltration, the entrapment has has thment has thment has th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the thin thin thin the thin, the thin, thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, the thi, the the thi, the thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, the thi, thi want to drive home the point here that this tactics we are seeing today, the infiltration, the entrapment has been going on since the beginning of the existence of intelligence agencies in the intelligence community. And so that's a big theme of my article that's really sort of an interview as well. But I would like to just start out how I've got a hold of these documents. It's actually an interesting story. So of course this is about May 4th, 1970 where four students were shot and I and others were injured. This was during an anti-Vietnam War protest. Now I went to Kent State University. I worked at the

Starting point is 00:26:20 university as well while I was in grad school and it was at this time that I came in contact with these documents. I worked in, I was not a professor, but I worked in the communications department. And I basically just wrote stories, made videos about the university that were lighthearted, good stories, really a communications role, marketing role, was not the place for investigative journalism, but I always knew in my career that's what I wanted to do. So I was tasked with working on a project for the 50th anniversary.

Starting point is 00:26:53 So this was a year ago, a year and a half, yeah, year ago. And I was told to visit this website. It was Glenn Frank's website, and I'll just provide it now. It is Glenn W. Frank May 4.com. And basically, this professor, who had a really significant role during the shootings and preventing hundreds of deaths, he spent the rest of his life, the next 20 years of his life, I dedicated to researching what really happened on that day.

Starting point is 00:27:26 And so I got in toucest with the creators of the website or the owners of the website and that's how I got in toucest with his son Alan Frank. Alan Frank was present on the day. He was at the scene where the shootings took place. He was not protesting actually he was just walking by. And so had you know met with me we did an interview and then he told me about all these documents that he had. Some of them are already published, some of them are notes that his dad took down during phone calls. Again I can't independently verify all of the claims made but we'll get into that specifically. And then as well as some documents that haven't been published that are internal communications among the police and all of it really points to a intelligence community effort in collaboration with the university, local law enforcement to cover up the situation for certain and maybe even create the situation that happened on that day. So that's a very broad overview, but I was presented with these documents while I was working at the university.

Starting point is 00:28:33 I then just moved on to pursue a career and independent journalism as I always wanted to. And then the past few months I got an offer to write something up about Kent State and then I remembered, oh, I have this story. I need to, I really need to publish this because I couldn't have access to these documents and not publish them. There still are more. And so that's kind of how this all came about. Today's episode is about our good friends at athletic greens,

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Starting point is 00:33:22 whether it's the Vietnam war. But we're looking at this group of people that are very, very intelligence. And I think that begins the slow process to erode the educational system in the United States and the family unit. We start to see a big push to kind of destroy the nuclear family unit, which has led to kind of chaos in this country. What your thoughts on all that, that, that, that, that, that, th th th th th th th th th th th th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. tha of destroy the nuclear family unit, which has led to kind of chaos in this country. What are your thoughts on all that, Taylor?

Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, that's a pretty good summary. So I will say that the Vietnam War, obviously complete disaster. They knew that. They knew that there was no way we could win this war because of the terrain, the decrease in morale as well. Now, of course, this this this this this this this this era this era this era this era th thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiia thia thiaugh thiaugh their the decrease in morale as well. Now, of course, this era was a very unique time frame and there was obviously a very distinct generational gap. So the young people during this era who were pro-culture who were protesting the war in Vietnam, their parents were from the 1950s,

Starting point is 00:34:21 leave it to beaver culture, and so there was this very significant clash and generational gap as well that I think sort of plays a role in all of this. You know, the 50s was a time I think of conformity and of discipline, whereas in the 40s. And then you go into 60s, 70s, and it's more of an era of free love. There was the sexual revolution. the, I don't want to call it it it to call it the to call it the the to call it the to call it to call it the to call it the to call it to to to to the to the to to to the to to to free love. There was the sexual revolution, the, I don't want to call it a drug revolution, because that doesn't make sense. But the introduction of, you know, psychedelics and other drugs

Starting point is 00:34:53 into our culture. So there was so much going on at this time. I think people began to question the norms, and that was obviously within this counterculture. Now I also though real quick think that a lot of that stuff was also manufactured through this through the CIA to again erode the family unit and the educational system, drugs. And listen dude I'm pro women I think feminism has a lot of great stuff going. It's, you know, equality across the board, regardless of what you're born, is obviously to me common sense. But there's this big movement to kind of destroy the family unit, and I think a lot of it comes out of 60s and 70s. The hippie culture, a lot of it coming out of hate Ashberry.

Starting point is 00:35:42 Whether it's Charles Manson or the Grateful Dead, we see a lot of connections to the CIA. And this is all about destroying again the family unit. In the way that you saw that destroy the black community with the drug wars, we see these kind of counterculture movements to destroy the family unit, in my humble opinion. That's really interesting. So I will say that yes, I think it's very, well, we know that the CIA was funding these experiments, the famous electricoolade acid test. The CIA was very much funding this and funding these other programs like MK Ultra and

Starting point is 00:36:28 that sort of thing, which they claim is no longer exists, but who knows? Who can know for sure these people are so receptive? Can we really believe that that's no longer taking place anymore? And a good point that you raised that just reminded me of something too is that I think we also need to be cautious of the fact, like these social justice movements that arise are oftentimes used by the establishment to pin us against each other. Yeah, and I think that's like a really important thing to be aware of, you know, these different movements, well, obviously equality is so important. The establishment does not want us to be, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, the, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi, thus th well, obviously, equality is so important. The establishment does not want us to be working together.

Starting point is 00:37:10 They want issues because that creates division. And their ability to maintain authority and power is far easier when you have a divided public and not a unified public. I gotta be honest with you. I'm starting to think Johnny's a little radicalized with his camouflage right now. I'm sorry about that. Johnny, you white nationalists right now? No, this is called being in the South, the American South. Okay. That's what this is. So, you know, Kent State, obviously, you know, a lot of times we see, uh, you know, cause something, you know, have a reaction

Starting point is 00:37:48 to it, then have a solution to it. And it sounds like to me Kent State was a great example of what they were trying to do. You want to get into that right now? Yeah, definitely. So I think to understand what happened on that day, it's important to understand what happened the days prior. And there's one incident that I want to bring your attention to that is very, very interesting. Now, this happened on May 2nd. This was on, yes, Saturday, May 2nd. This was the day that the Ohio National Guard was ordered to duty by then Ohio Governor

Starting point is 00:38:27 Rhodes. This was after receiving a request from Kent Mayor Satrum. He was fearful that so-called radicals would destroy the city. And of course, there was some commotion, some, I wouldn't necessarily say violence or riots, but protests were happening because, as you said of President Nixon's announcement that the US invaded Cambodia, a country which remained neutral during the Vietnam War war after he promised to de-escalate the war efforts. So there were things that were happening really starting on Friday, May 1st, but again I want to go back to, or move ahead to Saturday, May 2nd. All right.

Starting point is 00:39:05 This in particular, the evening. So the S, it really escalated that day when the ROTC building went up in flames. And radical protesters are blamed for this. However, to this day, it is really unclear who caused the fire. And I was speaking, as I said, with Alan Frank, and he told me that Alan Canfora, who was another very well-known activist, unfortunately he has passed away, I think in late 2020. Alan Frank told him that he and the others who were there at the ROTC building were trying to start a fire for an hour and a half. Once they left, the

Starting point is 00:39:45 building then went up in flames. So very strange and and here's where it gets very weird. If you look at the FBI report and it shows who they were investigating as to who was involved with this fire. There's about 20 people and half of them have their names and faces redacted. Alan Canfora is among them but his faces there, his name is there. There there. There there. There there. There there. There there. There there. There their their their their their their their their their their their their their their them have their names and faces redacted. Alan Canfor is among them, but his faces there, his name is there, there are others as well, but half of them are redacted and you have to wonder, why would the FBI redact the names and faces of so-called radicals? Does that make any sense? And it goes even beyond that. So there was also documents that showed that weapons were present at the ROTC building and this was in an effort to prevent the fire trucks from putting the fire act out. And it was said that people there, these so-called radicals, ran up, they took the fire hoses and they slashed them with machetes and ice picks. And in this particular document that I have accompanying the article,

Starting point is 00:40:47 it shows the evidence that they found there, which was a 32 caliber revolver, one section of the fire hose, and a machete style knife, all of which was returned to, who knows, because it's redacted. It's returned to specific individuals, though, their names are blacked out. So that to me, while we can't say for certain those are infiltrators or police or cops, it seems pretty obvious that that's what happened. Yeah. It was used as a justification to increase the presence of the Ohio National Guard. So I think that's just one very interesting point and Alan Frank told me that we will learn a lot

Starting point is 00:41:29 once we have our hands on the unredacted what he calls fire report. So, so they gave somebody back their weapons. I mean, what does that ever happen in a history of time? It's so bizarre. It makes no sense and we've seen over and over the scenario play out, play out over and over again where it's like, you know, law enforcement. I mean, I hate to tell everybody, this sounds exactly like January 6. I'm going to be honest with you. Everybody, I mean, it just, I mean, you have videos of cops opening doors, moving gates, letting people in. You're having like a full on I'm, I max, don't be digital sound stage almost as he's as Viking guy is walking down with lighting.

Starting point is 00:42:21 I wonder how many times he had the read they had to do retakes for coverage. I mean, it's just, it sounds exactly like the same thing. Absolutely. And during our conversation, he in fact brings that up and he said we can't even trust the official reports because there's no trust in the FBI, there's no trust in the investigators intelligence community, but 100% the event on January 6th, when I first saw those reports of people on Capitol Hill, I thought this is just not right. This is, there is something seriously going on here because they were just allowed to go into

Starting point is 00:43:03 the building. They were let in and there's been so much secrecy, there's been so many lies surrounding what happened on that day. And then here you have, the Biden administration release, it's, I can't remember the exact term for it, but it was a counterterrorism or disinformation report and how the White House is going to ensure that, or domestic terrorism prevention report, something like that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoomomomomomome, tho, thoomom thoom thoom thoom thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thei, thei, going to ensure that or domestic terrorism prevention report, something like that, where they cite January 6th as a reason to further surveil and initiate these different counterterrorism programs.

Starting point is 00:43:38 So it's the problem reaction solution. Yeah. You know, I was speaking with an economist, so somebody in a different fields just the other day. And he said to me, you know, any time and or if you look throughout history, in order to really change the system, there almost always has to be a crisis all the time. And it's true. Well, I'm telling you right now, January 6th is starting to become the quanza of events where it's like a small group of people act like it's a big deal and everyone's like what's going on here. I mean, it really is the Emperor's new clothes.

Starting point is 00:44:15 And it's getting zero traction and they're just pushing it. And that's really what I think it's such a big deal right now. We have a government with no representation. We have taxation with no representation. I mean, what is going on at the Middle East? What is going on with that? Syria? I mean, no, every single president, with the exception of Biden for the last couple,

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Starting point is 00:45:11 when guys hit on them and try to hook up. And they say whatever we want to say, try to score and women go nuts. I'm starting to get that because that's what happens every four years with the election process, where they tell us what we want to hear. And as soon as we vote them in, all of a sudden they do whatever and we're like, ah, I'm going crazy. I'm just going to eat ice cream and cry, you know, so I mean, that seems to be where we're going right now. And that seems to be one of the things things that's happened at that's happened that's happened that's happened at that's happened at that's happened at that's happened at that's happened at that's that's happened at that's that's that's happened at Ken State, this giant cause and reaction, right, solution.

Starting point is 00:45:46 This seems to be where we're at. Exactly, and you know, we can't rely on elected leaders to solve our problems either. But you're right. People generally do not like war. They do not want to be at war. They don't understand why we are there because it's for ridiculous false, made up reasons. And I don't see much changing through an election or through any politician in particular.

Starting point is 00:46:12 You know, President Trump tried to, or he said he was gonna try to pull out of Afghanistan in the Middle East, and you saw people on the left, who you would assume would be anti-war and very much in favor of this, and then say, oh, no, it's too soon, that's irresponsible. we we we we we we we we we thiiiiiii. That's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to to-a. to-a. to-a. to- to- to- to- to- to- to- to- the the thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th would assume would be anti-war and very much in favor of this, then say, oh no, it's too soon, that's irresponsible, we can't do that. It's just so absolutely ridiculous. And I would say that so much of what we hear on, especially mainstream media and from our government, 90%, 95% has to be completely fabricated or at least deceptive in some in some way, shape or form.

Starting point is 00:46:46 Fortunately, the statistics do show that more and more people are tuning in to independent media. The trust within the mainstream corporate media is on the decline. The viewership is also on the decline. So that's one positive thing. And you know, is a continuation of you know this movement by the Nixon administration and all the presidents around there to demonize the anti-war movement which is basically gone from the mainstream media today. There is no, I mean you have quote-unquote liberal Democrats calling for regime change everywhere and you're like what the what the fuck is going on here is this is a clown bazaar world but back then same thing with the CI I same thing excuse me with Charles Manson which was

Starting point is 00:47:34 to push his hippie culture and then this whole and then we're gonna do an episode on what really went down with Charles Manson but it was this demonization of the hippie movement. Same thing with this Kent State, where they basically wanted to, to basically paint anti-war protests as dangerous people, dangerous to SAS quo, and that we need our government to be able to take away some of our rights in order to combat this movement. And the only movement only happens because this because the intelligence community makes this happen. Right, and it's interesting that you bring up Charles Manson

Starting point is 00:48:12 because I saw a report from a journalist and entertainment journalist that presented evidence that he was possibly a CIA asset. I looked into it and it was pretty compelling. Again, that's a whole other story there, but it is very, very interesting. Now, as far as, you know, made forth in what happened in demonizing anti-war protesters, unfortunately what the mainstream and establishment has done a really good job of is demonized anti-war protesters in a way where if you question these ongoing endless wars, that somehow means that you're anti-American, anti-US and also anti-troops, that you do

Starting point is 00:48:57 not support the troops, which of course we know as Americans is something that is potentially really harmful to somebody's reputation, especially if you're in politics, but they've done a really good job of putting both of those things together. If you question the wars, it means you're anti-troops, which actually doesn't make sense because if you did support troops, you would not want them to be fighting in these senseless wars. And I, exactly. It's like, why do you want, you have your sons, your daughters, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and tr and, and, and tr and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thei, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they.a, they.a, they.a, they.a, they.s.a.s.s.s. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. your sons, your daughters, and these people want trans people in the military, your son daughters, to die for bankers in foreign wars? It just makes no sense. My favorite part of the show is me just screaming and then you basically come saying this.

Starting point is 00:49:39 It's just like, ah, you're like, yeah, basically, you know, it's like beauty and the beast going on here. So let's get into that day. It's just very interesting. So you were talking about the fires. That happened on what, May 2nd? Yes, that was the evening of May 2nd. And it was earlier that day that the governor called in the National Guard to be present on campus.

Starting point is 00:50:03 And so the National Guard to be present on campus. And so the National Guard arrived on Sunday, May 3rd. And if you look at photographs from May 3rd when the National Guard was there, it looks like a war zone. It does not look like a college campus in Smalltown Ohio and America's Midwest. It literally looks like a war zone. And there are so many lies deception as to what happened on that day. Of course now, more of the truth th the th th truth the th truth th truth the th truth th truth th truth the th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth th truth thruth th thuua thua thia thia thia' to to to too-a' to to to to to to to to to to to to to toa toa toa to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. too. to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. thea. thea. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho too too too too too tho deception as to what happened on that day.

Starting point is 00:50:25 Of course now more of the truth has come out. I think it's pretty well accepted that intelligence was heavily involved on what happened on the days leading up to it and also the pretty shameless cover-up as well. But initially, I mean, it was accepted for politicians, governors, other leaders and officials to advocate for more death. So we've come a long way, but we're still far from getting the truth out. Unfortunately, the university has not helped in that process. Of course not, of course not. Because then, you know, nobody wants to be called a spook, and that's exactly what would happen.

Starting point is 00:51:01 You know, so we have these documents that come out and I'm looking at someone from your article where these faces are redacted. This reminds me a lot of exactly what they did with the JFK, you know, Trump's JFK dump. Like they redacted every name except for George Bush Senior and he was on his deathbed. And then you saw the same thing with 9-11 with the dancing Israelis. When those information was dumped, all their faces are redacted. All their names are redacted, even though there's a million videos with the dancing Israelis talking about being in Jersey

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Starting point is 00:52:11 and it's where they admit that there's a Mod Squad, which is, of course, undercover police operation going on. Now, I left in one of the names of Ryan Holdmore because he was a note informant, this has been reported on. Now there are several other people like 20 other 30 other people on that list and I had to make the tough call. Do I redact it? Do I not? So I'll explain why I did. When I looked up these names, many of them were deceased, many of them were no longer alive. There was a few who are still alive and I thought potentially for this to come out, while it's not because I agree with what they did because I do not agree and I think they should be held accountable for participating and involving themselves in this. I just felt that unfortunately, there could be some sort of risk to their lives, to their reputations, their relationships that they have. I just wasn't sure about it. So my best judgment. I chose to redact the names. T their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, that, their, that, their that, tho. thoooooo. the, that, tho. tho. tho, thi, th lives, to their reputations, their relationships that they have. I just wasn't sure about it.

Starting point is 00:53:06 So my best judgment, I chose to redact the names. I thought it's probably more important that we know that there was a Monsquad Squad on the campus operating, but maybe in the future that information will be unredacted in the future. But yeah, the truth of the the the the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the matter the the the. I the. I the. I the. I that I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I the. I the. I te. I te. te. their their te. te. today. today. today. tooes. tooes. I to to to to to to make some tough journalistic calls here. Well, you know, the truth of the matter is, is like you could find yourself in some crazy, you know, positions legally. And, you know, and you're on your what your journey to become a giant independent journalist, but you know, right now I don't know if the political clout would be there to handle that kind of blowback from something like that. So, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, it, it, it, you, it's, it's, it's, you, it's, you, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, the, the the the the the the the the the truth, the the truth, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. trut, trutu, trut. truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, true, th. the political clout would be there to handle that kind of blowback from something like that.

Starting point is 00:53:47 So you know it's not your job to you know fight that war. Somebody you know established should go out there who has the the the financial and political clout to push back if they come after it so I don't really have a problem with you with what you did. That and would it get that much attention for something so old like if it was some like real real the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. tho tho tho tho. tho. tho tho tho tho tho th. th th th th th th th th th th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th. th th. th th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tough call and I have no problems with you doing that. So your interview with Alan Frank, tell me a little bit about that. Yeah, it was a great interview. Again, I do think I should make note that of course this is the work and the, pretty much investigative journalism. He was not a journalist, but this is based off of the investigations of Professor Glenn Frank. He has passed away several years ago, almost 30 years ago in 1993. As I said, he dedicated his, the rest of his life to determining what happened on that day. And just to give everybody watching a little background into who he is and what role he played on that day.

Starting point is 00:55:00 After the shooting took place, which lasted about 13 seconds, Alan told me that there was silence for a brief few moments, and then there was screaming and crying. And his dad happened to arrive at the scene at around that time, I believe, and he was helping getting people in ambulances, that sort of thing. And a lot of the students were outraged. There was like thousands of students,, or about a thousand students, who then sat down in front of the National Guard.

Starting point is 00:55:28 And the National Guard said to his father, Glenn Frank, you know, these kids have got to disperse. They have to, you know, move away and get off the premise. And they weren't moving because they were obviously very upset at what had just happened. So then he gave this very impassioned plea and speech to basically tell the students like, this will result in more deaths if you do not move. And for some reason, it just really touched a lot of people. And the students did leave the premise and he's credited with saving hundreds of lives. He was also a very conservative guy, Alan told me.

Starting point is 00:56:06 Alan said he was also very conservative, very pro-America. He said that his father was, quote, high on America. And this event happened, and he was really disturbed by it, and as I said, dedicated his life to seeking the truth. And so Alan talks about the work that his father has done. And I do want to note, it it it it it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, to, too, to, to, to be to be to, to, to be to be to, to, to be to be to be to, to, the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too, te. too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, talks about the work that his father has done. And I do want to note, it's a real honor to be able to speak about this work and to publish it and to get the truth out. So I'm very grateful to be able to do that.

Starting point is 00:56:33 One thing that I think is another important point to get across here is that people who were there on that day, these students are so deeply the the the thively thively thively thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. so deeply impacted by this and traumatized from this still to this day. I went to the university at the most recent anniversary and that was on obviously a couple months ago and students returned, some of them fly from all over the country just to come back and when they were talking to me about their experience, I mean, these are grown adults that are just crying, you know, so upset still, so many years later, because of what had happened. So not only is there obviously a political components to this, people's lives have been destroyed from this and people are deeply impacted by it. Allen is one of those

Starting point is 00:57:18 people as well. He fortunately has been very involved in the, you know, Kent State community to bring awareness to all of this, but it does need to be made clear that this has impacted so many lives. So did Alan ever talk to his father, Glenn, about the shooter at all? Was there any research into him? You know, because we're seeing more and more these shooters,

Starting point is 00:57:43 being like an MK Ultra type situation, you know, the kid who's blamed for Paradise, the Paradise School shooting, he's part of a very, very controversial youth program where they kind of went away and the methods in which they dealt with these children are quite questionable. Was there any investigation into the shooter himself? Well, there were multiple shooters. I think it's unclear as to who exactly killed this students. I think it's just. Oh, okay, so I was mistaking Texas A&M.

Starting point is 00:58:19 So this was from my apologies on that. I put two campus shootings together. So this was the National Guard shop, right. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. thi, th. thi, thi, thi,. I put two campus shootings together. So this was the the National Guard shot people, right? Is that what that? Yeah, okay. My I should have made that clear. Yes, so this is a National Guard. I think to this day, it's unclear if there was a call to fire. I've heard differing reports on that. So I'm not sure if there was a call to fire. thrown, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that was that was that that that that that that that that was that that that that was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that that. that that that that that that that that that that that. that was that was that was that was that was the National Guard. One interesting document that I came across was between the, it was an intelligence report and it was between the chief criminal, I'm not sure, some investigator in the civil rights division here, and it said that the FBI was aware of two guardsmen who went to the university with the intent to shoot people and to shoot students. Now, there's probably a lot more context to that, but it's just in an internal document. So it seemed that these guardsmen were very much, or at

Starting point is 00:59:18 least these two in particular, were very much wanting to harm the students. And I think it also goes back to the demonizing of anti-war protesters. I'm sure that they saw these students as like getting in the way of America, saving the world and that they're anti-American kids and that they want to destroy, you know, the way our society is run. So there is probably a lot of hatred, and I think that the US military really like drives, or really like amps that up in people to get them to do these certain acts. Oh, I'm sure, man. I'm sure they sent somebody in there an agent provocateur. It doesn't, and it could be on both sides as well.

Starting point is 00:59:59 And both sides could not know the other side is there. And they could be like you could have have, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thi, the. the. the. side is there. And they could be like you could have, you know, agents most likely, masquerading as protesters. And then you could have people who have been asked to, you know, if you got to do it, you know, because these guys are anti-American. And it's just a powder keg of chaos, which then starts this movement to be like, you know, demonized anti-war people. Yes, 100% absolutely. Another thing that I came across, and again, I can't independently verify this, but I found it to be so interesting, so disturbing. It could be completely false. But I decided, I'm just going to publish this

Starting point is 01:00:45 because it's been so many years. Many of these people are passed away. And if this doesn't get published now, it may never get published. And in Glenn Frank's documents, these are handwritten notes where he was speaking with, it was a phone call he had with one of the police officers, Bob Winkler. This is September, 1989. And this in this particular phone call, I'm going to pull it up here to look at the document.

Starting point is 01:01:13 So in this particular phone call, he is told by the police, Glenn Frank, again, the professor, was told that he was on an assassination list with the Ken State president at the time and several others. There was also discussion about paid undercover agents. I redacted their names because again, some of them were still alive. But the point here is to take away is the fact that he was possibly on an assassination list. But that did not come from one person. This also came from another professor,

Starting point is 01:01:46 Barclay, McMillan, he has passed away. And this man told Glenn Frank that there were death list, theists, like seven or eight of them, and that he, the Ken State President, was on this death list. And this call was from 1989, so several years after the shooting took place. So obviously it seems if there was a death list, they were trying to get rid of the people who were in search of the truth.

Starting point is 01:02:12 Again, I can't independently verify this, but when Glenn Frank was on the phone call with this man Barclay McMillan, he had a weird feeling about him and he said, hey, like, how do you know this? Like, are you CIA? And he said to him, well, we've had a close relationship over the past years. This comes at a time when there was a program to infiltrate the universities with the intelligence community. So again, I can't emphasize enough. I can't verify this, but it's just something that's very interesting to think about that they would go as far as far as far as far as far as far as far as as as as, as, as, as, as, the the the the their their their, thi. their, thi. thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and to, and thi, and their, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. they. they. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they. they. they. they. thi. to, but it's just something that's very interesting to, you know, think about that they would go as far as to assassinate people who were looking or who were searching for the truth.

Starting point is 01:02:50 Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, man. Unbelievable. And you find it, you know, look at the Vegas shooting. The guy was driving a plane that was owned by the CIA or the FBI. He has connections to that. And I mean, it's just unbelievable. And it's like, you know, it's all done to get a reaction for a solution. They want to give you this. And when the story falls apart, which now we have the ability to instantly do analysis of what is going on. And then the story starts to fall apart very quick. I mean look at Vegas has anything ever been resolved from that? No of course not because they don't want you looking at that. I mean it makes no sense. None of it makes sense from the windows broken to the helicopters to the amount of round shot to the amount of guns in there. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Starting point is 01:03:46 And the same thing with this man. And it's just like we know Nixon wanted to infiltrate the anti-war movement to destroy from within. And that's constantly what we see happening again. And you know, you saw the same thing with Occupy Wall Street. I mean, in Seattle, there was a cop who like, he was, he was undercover and he got surrounded and he pulled out his gun and his badge. And it turned out he was a cop. We saw that way in Minneapolis with the umbrella man.

Starting point is 01:04:18 The guy breaking windows with an umbrella and people were following going, are you a cop and he didn't say anything he walked off? We see it happen over and over and over again because I believe people are peaceful, loving people that they need to be provoked to elicit a response so they can give us this solution. And then we fast forward to January 6th. The exact same thing is going on and they want to silence all of the dissidents

Starting point is 01:04:51 of journalists. And so I know you wanted to talk a little bit about Julian Assange as well. Any thoughts you have on that? Yes, so it is very connected to your last point, considering the fact that people who are dissidents who challenged the establishment and authority are unfortunately going to be targeted. Julian Assange is a prime example of that. He exposed to the US military industrial complex among a number of other things,

Starting point is 01:05:21 and now he's being punished for that good journalism. It is a case that I followed closely. I covered the extradition hearings in London. Despite a UK judge blocking the extradition request, Assange is still in prison, Belmar's prison. It is one of, it is the worst prison in the UK. It's where it houses the country's most dangerous criminals, murderers, rapists, etc.

Starting point is 01:05:46 That is where he is held. That's where a journal, an award-winning journalist and publishers being held right now. The case will be heard on appeal. The US government, represented by the Crown Prosecution Service, has been given limited ability or limited permission to appeal the judges ruling. So now, the angle that theythe judges ruling. So now the angle that they're taking is that the US is changing its tone now and they're saying, Oh, uh, Assange, we're gonna provide some assurances here that

Starting point is 01:06:14 Assange will not be held under Sam's restrictions, which the best way to explain that briefly is just an extreme form of isolation. He won't, they're saying he won't be held under these restrictions and that he won't be held in ADX Florence, which is a supermax. That doesn't mean that he's not going to be held in another supermax. So it's incredibly misleading these new assurances from the U.S. government. And also too, in this, with these new assurances, the head of the CIA, at any moment could change their mind and place him under Sam's restrictions and could put him in ADX Florence. And this is the same CIA that targeted him, his six-month-old baby, his entire family, they tried to assassinate him. Do we really think that the CIA is not going to

Starting point is 01:06:58 flip a switch and put him under these Sam's restrictions? So that's where the case is at right now, and I just want to encourage everybody to keep sounding the alarm here and to keep supporting him because his fate is inherently tied to the fate of other journalists, activists, and this case really impacts the public's right to know as well. So I just want to encourage everybody to keep supporting Julian Assange. Well, my question is, didn't one of the witnesses witnesses the witnesses the witnesses the witnesses the witnesses the witnesses the witnesses the witnesses just want to encourage everybody to keep supporting Julian Assange. Well, my question is, didn't one of the witnesses who like basically claim they committed some kind of sexual assault or something along the lines that has completely recanted this story, that there are no witnesses now to any kind of sexual assault?

Starting point is 01:07:41 Well, this witness, Sege Thor Darson was a WikiLeaks volunteer for a very brief time. While he was volunteering, he embezzled like over 50,000, more than $50,000 from the organization. He's a known liar, cheater. And just a few years ago, he was also tried and convicted on sexual charges with minors. This is the person that the US government relied on for evidence in the case. And this man said now is saying that he made up all of the allegations against Assange related to hacking that really brought in the scope of the conspiracy to commit

Starting point is 01:08:20 computer intrusion charge. He is now recanting those statements. He said he made it all up so he could get immunity. In this case is still that that that that that that that that that th that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi the the the thi thi. the person thi. This person the the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person that the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the person the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thei. thei. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. usion charge. He is now recanting those statements. He said he made it all up so he could get immunity. In this case is still going forward. It is so unbelievable. So what that shows is that the US, well, all intelligence agencies are very corrupt, in particular the US,

Starting point is 01:08:37 and the fact that they have absolutely no case, that they had to reach out to a known child predator, and a fraudster and a fraudster and a fraudster and a fraudster and a fraud fraud fraud fraud, and a criminal to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a criminal, to be a criminal, to be to be a child predator and a fraudster and a liar and a criminal to be their star witness. It's really just shameful. They have no case. Well, I mean, we saw that with a lot of stuff going on with Iraq. The informants on the ground were all complete and out of scum bags. We've seen it over and over again. I mean, I mean that what was the name of that one podcast serial that got into the gentleman who was convicted of killing that girl from high school? And it just like the guy that was the informant has not like committed so many crimes and they just let him off, which is a lot with the same thing

Starting point is 01:09:25 that they did with Charles Manson. Like Charles Manson would like commit crime at the crime and just walk out of prison. Like nothing happened, jail, nothing, nothing, nothing. That's how you know that there is a dark hand at work. And what it all comes down to is that I believe in my heart of hearts that Julian Assange has in fact is the catalyst for the flip in what we traditionally see liberals as. Because before the whole Wiccallyaks dump and everything that was anti-Obama, you know, it was very easy to know who the good guys were and who the quote-quote good guys were and everything that was anti-Obama, you know, it was very easy to know who the good guys were and who the quote-unquote good guys were and who the quote quote, bad guys were. Well, now that this comes out that, you know, that Obama's drone strike in everybody,

Starting point is 01:10:16 the US government and the military is committing war crimes at a historic clip. Now of a sudden, who the good guys, who the bad guys are, who th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the w. the w. th. th. the w. the w. the w. the w. the w. the w. the w. the w. the w. the wo, the w. the w. the w. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, quote, the, the, the, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, quote, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, quote, the, quote, quote, quote, the, quote of a sudden, who the good guys, who the bad guys are, have completely unartly flipped. And now you got guys like John Cusack right now, completely destroying his legacy by saying that Julian Assange was a Trump guy and that he helped get Hillary elected. And I'm like, dude, I cannot believe I used to love your movies. And now all is being revealed and I think we are really in the age of awareness and more and more is being revealed. And it's not a Q thing or anything like that. It really is that the internet is like the internet let you know. And yes, there is a lot of disinformation out there. Obama renewing the right for, you know the US lets you know and yes there is a lot disinformation out there, Obama renewing

Starting point is 01:11:06 the right for you know the US government to use propaganda against its people which they always were doing now it's just officially allowed. I think more and more people are starting to see what the truth is and they're starting to like you said earlier starting to pull their energy, their time and their money out of the system. And I personally think they're freaking out. Hey Taylor, I have a where yeah, go on. I was gonna ask for a question. Hey Taylor with John McAfee dying and then Edward Snowden saying he could be next.

Starting point is 01:11:40 Is John is doing a side suicidal, Is that a possibility? Well, it's absolutely a concern. That's a great question. His mental health is in decline, as you would expect for somebody who's been confined in an embassy for nearly 10 years. And then now in his third going on third year in this prison, in a terrible prison. So it was in fact his mental health that prevented him from being extradited. The judge ruled that it would be oppressive to extradite him to the United States and place him in the U.S. prison system. And also on top of that because of his mental health concerns, mental health issues. So yes, there are concerns for his health, his well-being, and it was the one, one of the

Starting point is 01:12:30 reasons why he was not extradited to the United States. And in fact, the evidence for his health was so compelling that the U.S. is not not allowed to appeal any of the medical evidence. XG. Now, was your question though about, I thought you were kind of tongue in cheek asking about his mental health and you were actually asking if he was going to be suicided. Is that, is that also a concern possibly that I mean, I know that we've seen them try to get to him?

Starting point is 01:12:55 We've seen these weird shadow figures, and they were going to get him. Is that is that even whispered about around around his camp that you know of? Well, again, it's absolutely a possibility because it has come out that they already tried to assassinate him while he was in the embassy. The reason why in May is, let me be clear, US intelligence via a private, US intelligence via private private company, UC Global. So US intelligence, through a private to just put this in simple terms, contracted a private company to which whose job it was to protect the embassy, not surveil the people in the embassy, that's what happened. They turned the cameras into a surveillance network where they surveilled Assange and everybody

Starting point is 01:13:48 who visited him. This included his doctors who visited him and his attorneys and his attorneys have access to, has now been in the hands of the people who are trying to prosecute him. That should be sufficient to drop this case. But to get back to your question, it did come out in court that there were efforts to use this private company to assassinate Assange and then several of the employees of that company said, hey, like, we can't do this. We're not going to participate in this assassination. They were essentially whistleblowers,

Starting point is 01:14:25 and that's why this has all been brought to light. So I think the risk is certainly always there. Listen, here's the biggest issue that we're having right now, and the sure sign, the system is just broken. We have kangaroo courts. We have judges that are not enforcing the law. I mean, in this particular case, J, tha, tha, tha, thuuuuuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thri thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thii thi thi thi thi not enforcing the law. I mean, in this particular case of Julian side,

Starting point is 01:14:47 the judge is so obviously biased, whether she's taking money from the other side or she's invested in the other side's movement, we've seen it over and over again. And that's what we see what's going on with the United States. And I know Whitney Webb, who I respect so much is talking about how, you know, they purposely are trying to destroy our faith in the electoral process, which I totally agree with her about. But you have judges throwing out obvious cases and evidence that would show that's exactly what happened now. We live in a banana republic, man. Our military and our, our law enforcement, the law enforcement, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, and, and, they, and, they, and, and, they, they, and, they, and, and, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they are, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're purposely, they're purposely, they're purposely, they're purposely, they're purposely, they're purposely, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, that's exactly what happened now. We live in a banana republic, man.

Starting point is 01:15:26 Our military and our law enforcement are doing nothing to enforce the laws of the Constitution. And if they're not gonna do it, what's gonna happen? I think it's ridiculous. What's your thoughts before we end here, Taylor? Yeah, I mean, that was a great summary there. It goes down to the fact that we could, the fact that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact that that the fact the fact the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the fact the fact mean, that was a great summary there. It goes down to the fact that we cannot have faith in elected leaders. The establishment is completely corrupt. And I also think that there is an element of sort of this unspoken awareness and

Starting point is 01:16:01 knowledge that if you do, um, challenge the system, say if this judge were to rule on the side of the defense on all counts on all pieces of evidence, they would possibly, I'm just speculating possibly be some consequences for that judge. She probably would be removed as a judge. We've seen that happen before. So I think there's an unspoken awareness as to what could happen if you do challenge them. But I think that information is, that happened before. So I think there's an unspoken awareness as to what could happen if you do challenge them. But I think that information is key here, information and bringing awareness to other people. And I hope that with my article that I put forward while I know on May 4th, 1970, while I know it's not breaking news, I hope that it does show everyone that despite a passage of time, we can still, to some extent, hold these agencies accountable. You know, you brought up many recent events that are similar, and I just hope that this gives people hope that we can possibly get answers and we do that through good journalism and through the very brave and courageous people who are willing to blow

Starting point is 01:17:05 the whistle as well. Well, I think the importance of your article and your evidence is that those who don't learn learn history are doomed to repeat it. And that's I think the biggest issue is that you know, they keep using the same playbook over and over again. And we have to get really, really active on a local level. The federal government has to concede to state rights. And that's where we have to do all of our work. And it's like, guess what, everybody? You've got to get really comfortable with being uncomfortable and politically engage in your local politics. I just talked to my friend Robin who like they went to their local

Starting point is 01:17:53 educational board and got them to flip the mask mandate for kids because parents got involved. You have to get involved on a local level man. The federal government's going to, they're just doing crazy stuff. We have to do involved on a local level, man. The federal government's going to, they're just doing crazy stuff. We have to do stuff on a federal, on a local level. We need to start getting, and we have to, we have to hold our law enforcement and our judges accountable to the laws. They must enforce the laws. You know, when people are going to jail for not having masks on, okay? But yet they're letting pedophiles out with a slap on the wrist.

Starting point is 01:18:32 We have to hold these people accountable. Taylor, thank you so much for coming on. If we can finally tell all of our listeners where they can find you. Yeah, well, thank you for having me. You can find me. I'm pretty active on Twitter at underscore Taylor Hudak. You could find my work at Activism Munich on YouTube as well as the Last American Vagabond

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