Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #489: Sacred DNA and The Secret Societies Of Giants with Gary Wayne

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:31 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Good morning, Sorm, you ready to get your mind down? Good morning, Swarm and welcome to Tim Fall, Hi, you know what I am, you know I'm here to do. I'm here to rock. Joining me as always my good friend, partner and crime.

Starting point is 00:00:57 Johnny, not, J.Nice, Johnny Woodard, how are you buddy? I'm okay. So for some of you might not know Johnny.. Jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Good. Good is too. Good is to. Good. Good. okay man. I'm okay. So for some of you might not know Johnny Woodard is surviving COVID. How's it going? You look really good, dude. You look really good for somebody's got the plague. Survivor. Yeah, you know, I just been quarantining. So it sucks. I think I got it that damn dog. Did you take a horse dewormer? I did. I took a horse paste. Yeah, how is horse paste? Got it right here. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. the. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tooooo. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. th. took horse paste. Yeah, how was horse paste? Got it right here. Oh, let's see it. Ooh, ooh. You could sell that shit on the streets, bro. People looking for that action. I know I'm saving it in case of money I know around me gets sick. Uh, you know, I don't want to give anybody medical advice, but it didn't, I didn't grow like horse nipples or anything like that. And I, every time I took it th I th I th I took it took took took took took took took took took took took took took took took took took took took to to to to to to to to to tooes to to to to tooes. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I their. Oh, I their their. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told. I told. to to thea. thea. thea. thea. too. too. too. thea. toe. toe. to to to too. to to to to that. Oh every time I took it, I was better 12 hours later.

Starting point is 00:01:46 So whatever. You know, and I never had severe symptoms or anything. It was very mild course of the virus, but yeah. Johnny, I'm happy you got it, dude. It's like smallpox, just get it over with dude. Well, you know, I would agree with that if it was my dad who's probably the healthiest person I know. It was my dad who's probably the healthiest person. I know that's his age. You know, he's like 60s, something, early 60s.

Starting point is 00:02:07 It, he thought he was gonna die. Like, you know, it is, it's interesting how get some, it doesn't get other people. I know, I know, he's crazy dude. Guys, as you know, Xavier Guerrero is not with us right now. Supposedly his wife, uh, dude, he he he he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, thi. thi. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, hea, he's hea, hea, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's hea, he's hea, he's hea, he's hea, he's hea hea hea hea, he's hea, he's hea, he's hea, he hea, he hea, he hea, he hea, he hea, he's is he's. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's hea, he's hea, he's hea, he's that. He's that. He's that. He's tho. He's tho. He's tho. He's thoo. He's that. He he's he's he's hea, he wife, dude, it just gave out. Yeah, his internet gave out. Yeah, you'll see him on the show falling asleep. So we'll see how that goes. You know, Xavier falling asleep on the show, what do we call that? Part for the course? Just another episode. I think that should add that to that bingo sheet that they made on, you know the thingthings you say. Actually, taking a little nap. Take a little nap.

Starting point is 00:02:47 So, uh, Xavier couldn't join us right now. A lot of great things going out at the show. The 500 episode, we are selling tickets. We're gonna be sold out soon to later. So I hope you can join us. Grab your the second show. Just go to yeah, there it is the big Timfall hat. It's the 500 episode. Once tickets are sold out. They are sold out. Guys, if you want to see me, Eddie Bravo and sleepy, Sleepy, Johnny. Man, this really works out for you that you don't

Starting point is 00:03:25 have to do your stand-up that you said you're gonna do this week now you have to go up and do stand because you don't want to give everybody COVID Ah, your evil plan works. Oh, yeah, gave myself look at you. Guy looks like he's lost way he's bow flex shredded now but he's all I can't make you show but if you want to see myself and a couple others go out we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we're to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. to do. the to to to to the to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the th. the the the th. th. the the. to. to. th. to. th. th.'t make you show. But if you want to see myself and a couple others, go, we're going to be at Huntington Beach this Thursday night at 7 p.m. I don't know why we're doing 7 p.m. shows, but we're doing 7 p.m. show. Then we're in Kansas City the next night, and then we are in Omaha, Nebraska. We're at the waiting room, come get weird. All right, those are great tickets. Man, you got some travel on your hands, huh? Three nice, three cities, wow.

Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, I do you know I'm a gold member, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about that on broken simulation check. And Johnny, I hate saying this because everyone's gonna do it. Dude pre-check is the best. the best. It is the best. But you're just okay letting them give you the rectal probe like that, know everything about. I know everything about me, dude. I considered it.

Starting point is 00:04:31 What you did. I'm shady shit. They know that. Did you do TSA pre-check or clear? Which one? TSA? And dude, I bet you're going the government, but if there's some terrorists on the plane, he's gonna fight them.

Starting point is 00:04:47 So he's got Krav Maga. So he's taking Kravagga for a couple weeks. So he's gonna, if anything hits, we know he's gonna fight, so let him through. If there's anything you say about me, I'm patriotic. So they, Sam's gonna so back from their as shaky as I am. I'm a patriarch dude. As long as the back's not sore. Yeah, oh, he's gonna go back from crowd. Well, I do. I felt it. I was learning how to fight knives and boom, my back just but did I quit? No, I kept fighting. And I'm probably going to pay the price for it tomorrow. But yeah, so that's a guys. It's a great way sports show is go to rock thing dot com slash tiphut hat slash zero slash what is it broken sim slash conspiracy social club and you know hey

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Starting point is 00:08:35 There's three guys right there. They really got XG's face that face you make on Instagram. Yeah, and he's really like looks like he's sleeping, doesn't he? He's almost sleeping in the picture. I look like I'm just, I'm like, I hate my life. I don't like being a foot of the chicken snake god. You really don't do. Uh, so that's it man, anything else Johnny? That's it. Now, yeah, we're gonna do another broken sim tom tomorrow. You know, we had to take a few days off because of it because Johnny got AIDS. So Johnny beat AIDS and now we're back. Guys, uh, this is a great episode. You're gonna love it. Dude, this guy Gary Wayne comes. Because he, when we get toward the end, he starts bringing that fire. Yeah, and dude, we're gonna have to bring him back to talk about all the stuff because it's truly crazy. It's a great episode. I just I just want to tease the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. episode. I hope you just want to tease one thing. What were they called? What were those things called? The ugly ones? The ugly ones? Yeah. He's talking about the ugly ones. And they like to do sexually perverse stuff. Just to let you know what you get into. Gary Wayne comes

Starting point is 00:09:35 drop the hammer the gods on us in joy. Enjoy the show. Home boy. the things. All right. Let's. into it, boys and girls. We have a fun show for you, man. I'm very excited. Our next guest, he is a, he is a, he's a, he's had a love affair, a biblical, prophecy, history, mythology, and I'm very excited to talk to this guy because I'm really into talking about scripture and the books and what they represent. Very excited to have him. Gary Wayne, how are you Gary?

Starting point is 00:10:14 Doing very, very well and so happy to be with you today and looking forward to the discussion. Gary, for our listeners who aren't familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Well, I'm a Christian contrarian and people aren't sure what that means. What that means to me is I don't believe what somebody tells me or what somebody says something is written. I like to verify everything myself. So I'm one of those contrarians that like to do the extra leg work to understand why I believe something so that I can back it up. And I think

Starting point is 00:10:53 you ought to be able to back things up. So I am a just your average kind of guy. I don't have a university education. I did not take a writing course, but I have a 12 or 15 books sort of in my head that I want to write and I got two more on the go. So I have a passion for history and have a passion for mythology and many years ago I was challenged to read a book by Hal Lindsay called the late Great Planet Earth, which kind of scared the socks off me, which got me into researching the Bible and checking out to see whether or not the the that I I I I I I that I that I that I th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theat the the the theat theat the. I the the the th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to toeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuu. toeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the which kind of scared the socks off me, which got me into researching the Bible and checking out to see whether or not Hal was being accurate in his application of scripture.

Starting point is 00:11:32 And I found for the most part, I pretty much agreed with what he was saying, but I needed to know more. So I've been on almost a 40-year journey of research to connect thethe dots on how what is written in the Bible is sort of told in a parallel but more of a polytheist sense in other cultures and religions and legends around the world and by secular historians. So that's kind of who I am and I just continued to do research. And so I'm a Christian by my bias, but I talk to a lot of audiences about what's in the Bible because I can connect it to what's in all of these other really juicy sort of legends

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Starting point is 00:15:33 I really do. I mean, this is the giant question. Like, what is the truth when it comes to religion? And how do we accept it as truth, man? I think this is a great, great discussion. I mean, in so much of what you're talking about right now, your desire to question everything, even when it comes to religion and who we are, where we are and who made us, is wonderful, and it's very, very applicable to today because, I mean, we are getting bombarded with information from both sides.

Starting point is 00:16:13 I call it nonlinear warfare. It's done purposefully. How do you know what is real? How do you know what's not real? And that is truly the, the mission is to find to the best your ability what is truly going on and they are trying their most just to mess it all up so you can't tell what's going on and that is in 1984 the book they talk about how they put out you know misinformation purposely so you don't know if you're

Starting point is 00:16:41 coming or going and I think that has a lot to do with religion as well. And you know, we live in a world of quote unquote science. Science has become very, very, very religious, the way people follow it with just blind faith and not ask questions. And we kind of look back at like, you just look at how people treat scientists day. You kind of look exactly like how people treated holy men back in the day. And I think it's very healthy to ask real questions. And I don't know, and this is a great question for you. I don't know how we could tell what is the truth.

Starting point is 00:17:21 And so, so as you did your research, how are you able to decipher if you're on the right path or if this is some purposeful misinformation in what you're looking at? Well, that's a really good question and, you know, with all of the interviews that I have done over the last four or five years, that one hasn't been asked. So I really appreciate that question. So how do you know you're on the right track with all the information that's out there? And I look for consistency. And even though there are many sources to all of the kinds of accounts that go on in prehistory, in particular if you're talking to giants or pyramids or little people or whatever, a lot of the things in that kind of genre, there is consistency in the basis of the story.

Starting point is 00:18:18 It's just the lens that is being looked at as they're telling the story or as they're recording the story. So if you're talking about giants, which the book is all about and sort of goes into 1,000 other different directions to connect things in, you have the story in Genesis 6, 1 through 4, where you have the Sons of God, which are angels as are recorded in Job 1, 2, and 38, and elsewhere, but those are the main ones.

Starting point is 00:18:49 They go to human females and they create giants. And giants and the King James Bible goes back to the Hebrew word and the feel and the I.M is the male plural and it's defined as a tribe of giants. So, okay, so we have that and that's controversial even within the church. But let's get outside of that. Now how would I verify is that similar to what's going on elsewhere? So if I go over for an easy example, I go over to Poseidon and the Atlanta story because everybody's familiar with that. And so Poseidon takes a human female, climbing and produces 10 giant

Starting point is 00:19:27 demigod kings and it's the exact same story. You've got a god or a fallen angel that's going to a human female and then you look at the word demigod in its ancient definition and it means the offspring of a human female and a god. So the consistency of that story is told over and over and over around the world, just that they don't use the word angels are generally using the word god. So whether or not you go over to the Egyptian pantheon with gods like anubis or Osiris and ISIS, they're producing demigod offspring as well. Or if you go over to the Samarian Pantheon with the Anunaki,

Starting point is 00:20:14 they're doing the same thing. It's the same story. And you can go to Southeast Asia, you can go to China, you can go to Japan, you can go to the Kishamaya, and again they're going to tell the same story about the same super beings creating these giant offspring. And then if you even get outside of that and go into the ancient alien mythos, they tell the different story. They just don't call these beings gods or angels, they call them aliens, but they're creating several different kinds of races through similar types of processes so it's a

Starting point is 00:20:49 consistency factor I know that was a bit of a long rat but no no no dude I'm all about that I don't know everybody wants earth ass that's what I'm discovering through all these stories everyone wants a bang human chicks it's just a story Italked about in my act. I see it all the time. It's such an interesting thing and I want to get in the giants because I love the top of giants. But if you don't mind for a second because it says that you studied extensively the holy Bible, the Gnostic scriptures, the Quran, the Bhagavida, and all these other books. So I've always talked about on this show, about how, and I'd love Gary to hear your opinion

Starting point is 00:21:32 on this, how, at some point a book is introduced to these religions out of nowhere, that somehow changes the direction of these religions. And, you know, I had a guest on that told me that the Quran the the direction of these religions. And you know, I had a guest on it told me that the Quran that's kind of filed now isn't the original Quran. And then I had a guest come on tell me that the Baga Vita that people are reading right now, isn't the original Baga Vita,

Starting point is 00:22:00 and that they are enough little changes to go, why are these books different? When when when when when when when that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thii, their their their their their thoom, their the Vita and that they are enough little changes to go, why are these books different? When we look at the Holy Bible, you know, why are there something, and this comes on to, how do I know this is real or how do I know this is fake story? But supposedly, there were stories left out of this Bible. And we go, why are these people the story that I was told, and you could correct me if I'm wrong, why did these people who worship the sun, the raw gods, put together this Bible and leave out certain stories? So my question to you is, is any of that true?

Starting point is 00:22:37 Are any of these, these, these holy books that people, and obviously we talk about in Judaism, you have the Torah and now you have the Talmudmud ta tal tal tal tal tal tal tal tal tal tal ta ta ta ta ta ta, ta, the ta, the ta, the the the the ta, the the the the thuu thu the the the thoomui. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha, tha, ta, ta, todaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaaaaaaaaqaaaaaaaaaaaqaaaaaa, tha, tha, tha, their, their, tha books that people find, and obviously we talk about in Judaism, you have the Torah and now you have the Talmud, right, which is kind of takes Judaism in a different direction than what the original book did. So what are your thoughts on all that? Well again, it's one of those really good questions because you have not only religions based on a set of scriptures, but then you have a lot of arguments as opposed to proof that says that they were changed or they don't include all of the books. Some of that might be true, and some of it isn't true. So it's really hard to sort of wade through that. So if you talk about the Bible as an example, you have the books that

Starting point is 00:23:26 were set forth by the Jewish people, but not the haggriographa that was also in use. So it's missing books, there's about 70 scrolls or 70 books that are missing from the Old Testament that weren't considered quite proper even by the Jewish people. So I think it goes back to how old of the manuscript and the veracity that they have for that. And then when it comes to the New Testament, I mean, that was quite arbitrary how that was put together at the Council of Nicaea in terms of what was being put in, into the Bible. And so there was a lot of books that perhaps maybe should be in there, but weren't. And then you have the famous book of Enoch.

Starting point is 00:24:10 I understand why that's not in the Bible, because they didn't have a original Hebrew manuscript. So that gets to be for the Old Testament one of the significant bases is for does it go into apocrypha or does it go into the canon. But the New Testament was done in a little bit those sort of different flavor. I'm not familiar with the Quran not being the original. I've got no evidence to be able to suggest on that. But when you get into the Vedas or the Upansads or all the different holy books of the subcontinent

Starting point is 00:24:46 of India, again, they only have records that go back, you know, to a thousand BC or 2000 BC, but the records indicate that they are like five or six thousand years old. And so what we don't get is a chain of command as to, was there any changes? Was there anything that was missing? We have a book on the Kishamaya, the Pope will do, that's a very small book, which seems to be a small sliver of the whole religion. So when you're missing pieces of the puzzle, yeah, it's open for debate. Do you have the whole picture? And the Gnostics have a whole different view on the Bible

Starting point is 00:25:28 in terms of there are generally polytheists, although there are Nostic Christians, but they don't believe Jesus was the word of God. And they're also connected to the Assines, who are the religion of Egypt that you were referring to, Kiliopolis, and they believe the religion that Moses brought went rogue into monotheism as opposed to polytheism. And so they have a different view on it. Jewish mysticism that you were talking about in terms of the Talmud or the Madrash or all the different variants. That, again,

Starting point is 00:26:01 is polytheism within Judaism, like the Assines and sort of a sister group to it. And Kabbalism is more of a more recent advent because that comes back from Babylon where the Assines and their mysticism comes out of Egypt. So it's two different time frames that adds that mixes in there but they are kind of similar in terms of their doctrine. So you get all of that sort of going on but what it boils down to is what to is what you is what you is what you is what you is what you is what you is what you is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their to their the the to their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their. their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tthea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. their. their. their. the are kind of similar in terms of their doctrine. So you get all of that sort of going on, but what it boils down to is what you get in all the different writings. Is there is one side and another side. And whether or not you believe the God of the Bible is evil or he's the good God, will be the lens that you're going to view things through. And if you look at the gods of the Bible as being evil,

Starting point is 00:26:47 then you're tend to go to believe in multiple gods or very advanced beings. And so it really sort of comes down to that. And even from a secular history perspective, that secular history is always dominated by the religion of that nation that was writing that ancient history. And one can make an argument that that history is not even secular today, that it has those same type of biases in it.

Starting point is 00:27:16 So not only just by the victors, but by the religions and the beliefs that they have. So the question I think is, is how do we know about the reliability? I think we have a large, we have, the the the the the the the th.. the th, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have, we have a th, we have a th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi is, is, is, is, is, is thi is, is, is, is, is, thi is, thi is thi is thi is thi is th, thi is th, th, thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the beliefs that they have. So the question I think is, is how do we know about the reliability? I think we have a large body that's out there, and I would look for the consistencies in each of those. And that's how you match it up, because when you have multiple sort of witnesses,

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Starting point is 00:31:31 and a lot of people listen to the show. And, you know, I love everybody. Blessed have Christians who love the show. They're wonderful people. You know, I think every religion gets demonized by their crazies and stuff like that and that. You know, when I meet like when I go and I meet Muslims, they're wonderful people. When I meet Jews, they're wonderful people. When I meet Christians are wonderful people.

Starting point is 00:31:56 And I go down the list. It's very rare that a group of people are bad people. And you know, it's like every group has some bad apples. And the squeaky wheel gets the oil always, OK. So but one thing that I want to talk about is like when, when you talk about all these alternative views and religions and holy books, a big thing that is talked about is about how the devil created these so we didn't know, so we lost our contact with God. What is your thoughts on that?

Starting point is 00:32:34 Because I hear that a lot, man, that's brought up all the time, Buddhism, all these other religions? And I know Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. It's kind of something you could add on to whatever you believe. But there's this whole notion that these thoughts and these beliefs represent, you know, misinformation from Satan himself, the devil. What is your thoughts on that? Yeah, it's an interesting sort of perspective. I would I would reshape that argument to that you have knowledge and information being supplied by different sources. And in polytheism, for example, it's a dualistic religion. So they believe it in this, and this is consistent through all of the polytheist religions,

Starting point is 00:33:27 there is this perpetual war going on between good and evil that one never wins, right? And so, I mean, you can look at the analogies like the Star Wars. It's that sort of perpetual war that goes on. And when you get into the polytheist side, they receive knowledge that is added, it is is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there is there is there, there, there, there is there, there, there, there, there, there, there is, there is, there is, there is, there is, there is, there is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is, is, is their is, is their is, their is, their is, their is, their is their is their is, their is the, you get into the polytheocyicide, they receive knowledge that is added to the seven sciences that they were developing on their own. And that accelerated their knowledge in terms of civilizations and the sudden advancements that were coming about. And so this knowledge comes from their guts. And this is a consistent story throughout polytheism.

Starting point is 00:34:11 You get that same view coming out of scriptural narratives and the canon where you have the fallen angels who are providing this extra illicit knowledge knowledge as the book of Enoch would call it. And this is what merges with the seven sacred scientists. So the Gnostics in Freemasonry, they're the ones who have the clearest story coming out of prehistory for records because they have had a polychronicron tradition that transcends the flood. And they look at the knowledge that came from Cain to Enoch, son of Cain, and there are two Enochs, and remember that there's one son of Cain, one son of Jared in the Bible,

Starting point is 00:34:55 is that the knowledge that Adam was taught in Eden, was passed on to Cain and to Seth, but Enoch is the one who really develops this knowledge that Adam was taught by God and develops it into the seven sciences, which is the knowledge in the Bible that marriages with the knowledge of the gods. And polytheism has that same development with this knowledge of almost everything coming from the gods that created the civilization. And so you get that consistency factor in there again. So again, I would not look at that argument as that it's disinformation in the typical sort of sense.

Starting point is 00:35:40 I mean, people believe that information and they totally believe that whichever side they're on, they're on the right side and they have the real truth. And there's subtle differences as to who's the good God and who are the evil gods from a monotheus perspective, right? Or who is the good gods and who is the evil god. And in polytheism, they look at the God of the Bible as an equal to them, as to those other gods who went rogue and is arrogant and does evil things and tries to trap people in ignorance and things like that. So again, I would look at it as as you have to, you have to research it yourself and you have to make your own decision. Do I accept this view or do I not the other the other the other the the to the to to to to the the to the the to the the the the the the the th. I not the thu. I not to tho tho to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the other thoeoeoe. the other. the other. the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the other the the the the the the the the the God God God God. the God. the God. the God. I the God. I the God. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. thea. thea. their their to research it yourself and you have to make your own decision. Do I accept this view or do I accept the other view

Starting point is 00:36:27 or do I not want to accept either views? But you also have to be aware if you're gonna be secular, that may not be a secular view. It may be being manipulated by the polytheists, who just wanna lead people away from the God of the Bible. And so there's still nuances within all of that. And the difficulty is, is that whether or not you follow science, you still have to have faith in science. If you're a second, if you don't believe in anything, you have to have faith in that. Or if you have, if you are a polytheist, you have to have faith in those gods are the legitimate good gods,

Starting point is 00:37:05 even though there are some evil gods and polytheism as well, and you have to have faith in the God of the Bible if you're a monotheus. So no matter what, you're gonna get down to a point where I'm gonna make a decision, and no decision is still a decision, but you've got faith in that. I love that. I just such a complex thing. You know, I deal with, I talk about that.

Starting point is 00:37:28 I love studying religions. I try my hardest, you know, I flunk first grade, so I'll read books on it and then after two paragraphs. I'm like, what did I just read, but I'm trying to my hardest. You know, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, I'm dealing with with with with doing doing doing some some some some some some some some trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, trying, I'm dealing with with doing doing some some, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm dealing with some, I'm dealing with some weird wiring, but I'm trying my hardest. And, you know, but I love the, I love just trying to understand what's going on. So I, I don't, you know, for me personally, I'm like, am I ever going to get to the bottom of the truth? I don't know if my mind can do that. I just enjoy the discussion. But the one thing that I do is like, for me, man, thia, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. try, I try, I thi, I thi, I thing that I do is like, for me, man, it's like so much of it is like, what do I apply to my life on a daily basis?

Starting point is 00:38:10 Is it making me a better person? Is it making me a happier person? And for the most part, it really is, you know, and these things that I do, which is like love thy neighbor, you know, model of abundance, you know, law of attraction, you know, law of attraction, stuff like that helps me on a daily basis, be a happier person. Now do I have down times and do I get sad? And I, you know, quote unquote depressed? Yeah, I can usually attribute that when I ate, you know,

Starting point is 00:38:37 better. Anyway, the point is this, it's like, is that, who will ever know? And that's why I'm glad you're here because you've done 40 years of work that I don't think a lot of us have the time to do. So I really do appreciate that. This will be the last question. Do you think the stories of the Bible were meant to be done, taken literally or it's metaphors almost? More, you know, stories to learn from? Well, the most common view from a Christian perspective,

Starting point is 00:39:08 which I come from, is that it's the literal perspective that you need to apply the Bible with, and that all of the allegories are defined within the Bible. There are a lot of interpretive people that would view this, and it's typically a Gnostic or a Polytheus belief that all of the scriptures, whether or not it's theirs or the Bible, needs to be understood in the interpretive approach, which means you have to go through the mysteries, you have to become an adept to understand what's really written within those scriptures. Whereas the Bible is saying, no, that's not, that's, that's, that's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that's not, you, you, you, that's, you, that's, you, you, that's, you, you, that's that's, thi, you, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, really written within those scriptures. Whereas the Bible is saying, no, that's not, you know, Christians will say no, that's not the case. So I recognize that

Starting point is 00:39:54 there are two different approaches in that. I side on the literal one because I don't have issues in understanding the Bible from a literal perspective or understanding what the metaphors are because they're all defined within the Bible. But the allegorical approach, it can have a moving target. You mean, you don't know what the meaning of that allegory or symbolism is, and they could be changing it, and you wouldn't know because that is being passed on to you. And so when you're in the lower mysteries, you're not really tout the the the the the the th secrets th secrets the th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets the th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets th secrets the the-a-s thi-s thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. their their the the the the the the the the thiii-a. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-ni-ni-ni-ni-teuui-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-tea-t passed on to you. And so when you're in the lower mysteries, you're not really taught the true secrets. Only at the adept level are you taught the true secrets and higher. And there's more degrees than the 33rd degree of Freemasonry or the third degree of mysticism

Starting point is 00:40:37 or the York right. It can go as high as I know of seven. I've thin th been told nine, 11, 13, and I don't know how high it goes, but that's in the real higher orders of the Royal Masonic orders. And you have to be born into that to learn those very, very high level of mysteries. Okay, dude, so this, let's get into this because I think giants are very important. And how does, how does giants fit in to what's going on today in our world with COVID and all that stuff? I'm up, give my point of view.

Starting point is 00:41:15 So we've, we've had people on the show before Matt Lackroy. Who else? Great, Carlwood. A lot of talks of, of these Anunaki, lots of talk about DNA, and supposedly within the Bible, and Gary, I'd love to hear your thoughts, how precious our DNA is. And that, when it gets other, I don't know how to say shish kebab or Benny Hanod so much,

Starting point is 00:41:51 that the gods get angry and they want to hit a reset button, which is kind of what a lot of people think is going on today with these vaccines, these MRNAs, these gene spicesicers that it's it's messing with our very sacred DNA. What are your thoughts on that? Well I think the DNA issue is going to be a big issue as we move forward. I would also suggest that we're just catching up to what happened in prehistory and in biblical prophecy in terms of the relationship to that is it's going to be like the days of Noah. And in the days of Noah and Noah live both 350 years after the flood and 600 years before the flood. You have the creation of the giants and you also have

Starting point is 00:42:39 creation of other beings that are described in all of the polytheist religions, whether or not it's the centares or it's pegassususususususususususususus. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiocysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysysys. And described in all of the polytheist religions, whether or not it's the centaurs or it's Pegasus or it's Cyclops or it's, I mean, there's this endless list of little people and other beings that are created. And the crimes that the fallen angels did is that they violated the laws of creation. Not only through sexual cohabitation, but with the knowledge that was provided, they also did DNA manipulation because we also get creatures that are called Camaras,

Starting point is 00:43:17 and multiple types of creatures out of polytheism as well. Those are violations against the laws of creation in both ways because it changed the DNA. The DNA through sexual population added a spiritual being that has a capability to take a physical form to pass on that DNA and its traits and the counterfeit spirit that went along with it. So if you look at some of the buildings and the technology that they had to build the pyramids or Machu Picchu or the Sphinx, all things that are accredited in polytheism to be built before the flood by this great knowledge

Starting point is 00:43:59 they had before and we don't have that today, but they had this acceleration of knowledge as the nephoday. But they had this acceleration of knowledge as the nephalum or as the giants were born who took over the kingships. And you look at what's going on today, you have this sudden acceleration of the knowledge where we can again start to manipulate DNA. And one can argue whether or not giants will be recreated

Starting point is 00:44:22 or we're going to be dealing with the descendants of the giants and the bloodlines and the genealogies and the pedigree that they keep that are going to be ruling this new world order. I like to call the Nufflin World Order, but... Okay, yeah, yeah. You have the same sort of two dynamics coming about. So you enter in now MRNA, which sends messages to your immune system in the cell levels at the DNA level to attack a particular protein and or a spike as opposed to the multi-level immunity aspects that our immunity have, whether it's T cells and everything else that goes along with it. And you have that ability that is now coming

Starting point is 00:45:05 through the medical health care system to change your DNA if they chose to do so. And I don't think they've done that yet, but it has that sort of first level of technology. Now in the end time, just to make a point on what I'm talking about here, in the book of revelation, the the the the, the, the, the of thoen, thobleble, thoble, thoble, thoomomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeomeome of to to to to to to make, to make of to make of to make of to make of to make of to make of to make of to make to make to make, to make to make, to make, to make, to make of to make of to make of to make of to make of toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe of toe, toe of toe of toe of toe of toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theanan,s., i., the toeanananan, toe, toe of Revelation, which I know a lot of people say is indeciferable and it, believe me it isn't. In Revelation 1823, Babylon, which is the universal religion that brings about the 10 king world government, deceives all of the nations with its sorceries as it's recorded in the King James version Bible. Sorceries is a very interesting word. Sourcer is the word that was used

Starting point is 00:45:45 by the people of the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons to call themselves and they call themselves the last of the sorcerers and the first of the scientists as they created the Royal Society that all science and education still answers to today in England. And sorceries is the word that goes back to in Revelation 1823, pharmacaya. And then it's also used in Revelation 921 and 218 and 2215. And the two other words for that are Pharmacous and Pharmacous and it's all Oh, snaps. Right. And Pharmacaya is the two other words for that are pharmacus and pharmacos and assault. Oh, snaps.

Starting point is 00:46:25 Right. And pharmacaya is the Latin word for pharmacy, which is old French, which is the pharmaceuticals that we have today, and the vaccines are being created by the pharmaceutical companies today. And they're creating a DNA level of access that could lead to, if you look at Babylon leading the world astrath through her sorceries, their pharmaciaia, and that could also mean prescription drugs and it could also mean illicit illegal drugs as well.

Starting point is 00:47:01 You have that connection there with the secret societies, with the science, and with end time biblical prophecy, and the timing about bringing about world government. If you look at the birth pangs and prophecy, that includes wars and rumors of war, earthquakes, pestilence and pandemics, I mean, and famine. And so all of those are going to be increasing. We seem to be in the birthpangs of the fig tree generation, which was the overarching sign that Jesus gave just after, just before he talks about the days of Noah as

Starting point is 00:47:45 being part of the fig tree generation we have these birth bangs that are supposed to increase in intensity as we get closer to world government in the end time and so we start to see this merging of the pharmaceuticals, oligopolis or corporations, governments and they're starting to take away rights. They're trying to do things on a global scale that is sort of being led by the globalists. And the globalists all want world government. And I think we're seeing a connection here that we ought to take a stand, not necessarily to take a stand on, but become educated on.

Starting point is 00:48:24 It's, I mean, it's not the mark of the beast yet. But you know, in Davos, they're talking about the implant system that could give you all the vaccinations that you need, all the medication that you need, that that system would come about and the connection to the monetary system and to unlimited knowledge and longer life through the delivery system of health care. And now if they say if you have to have a vaccine, down the road they could manipulate that. I don't think we're at that point yet,

Starting point is 00:49:00 but it's introductory technology, and they're just learning the things that they can do right now and what they can get away with. And I think they're finding it surprisingly easy to get 70% of the population to go along with what they're saying because they're afraid. I totally agree with that, man. We've had guests on here before talking about the importance of DNA, how this group of dark arts occultics, the Rothschilds forced their way into basically getting into royal families and messing up royal DNA. And then we talk about giants and how big that is and how, you know, they've taken sacred

Starting point is 00:49:46 human DNA and they messed it with these low frequency entities, whether there are cons and stuff like that. And now what you're trying to tell me is like that there are connections from of secret societies to giants. Is that true? Oh, snaps. And my book will walk everybody. Is that true? Oh, absolutely. Oh, snaps. And my book will walk everybody through that in a very, very detailed way.

Starting point is 00:50:11 So, secret societies take their beginnings back to before the flood, back to Enoch, son of cane. And their major patriarchs are like Tubal Cain, Jubal Jubal and Amah. Again, the four that are listed as of the many offspring that aren't listed of Lamaq which is of the Cain lineage. And that is the beginning of the Royal Masonic Masonry that people are not really familiar with. And what happens is that the knowledge that Enoch has developedthat the knowledge that Enoch has developed and the knowledge that has merged with this illicit knowledge from heaven or the gods, they're not going to permit this knowledge to go to

Starting point is 00:50:54 people that they don't want it to go to. So they set up the mystery religions that I call Inoki and mysticismism. And this is the religion that sets up the mystery schools to develop these sciences in the antediluvian epoch that they give credit to Enoch's technology to building the pyramids in Freemasonry, part of their history of Freemasonry or the Polychronicon I mentioned earlier and out of that comes the secret societies as a branch arm but the secret societies are Masonic royal bloodlines that are the high level of death. So you have the nefaline and you have their

Starting point is 00:51:30 offspring and the descendants thereafter and they have this blood line of the nephaline, but you have a flood that comes along. So all of this crosses the flood and resurfaces biblically and also in Masonic records at Babel where Nimrod receives this lost knowledge that was stored under the pyramids by Hermes who finds the two pillars of Lomech and Enoch brings that back to Nimrod who writes the first constitution for royal masonry after the flood and use that technology to start building the city and the tower. We get sort of an indication of that knowledge from working as.. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thiol thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where th thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this this thi, this thi, thiolo thiolo thioloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thooooo thiolo th technology to start building the city and the tower. And we get sort of an indication of that knowledge from working as one people, nothing is

Starting point is 00:52:11 going to be prevented them from doing, summarizing the account in the Bible. And so he becomes the first grandmaster of the royal Masonic bloodline. And so you're going to have... Who becomes that? Nimrod after the flood. And now he's gonna marry into the Raffaim who show up after the flood. You may not be familiar with that term, Raffaim.

Starting point is 00:52:34 But Raffaim are giants. They're not as big as the Nephaline, by sort of accounts that we get after the flood. Nephalem do not show up after the flood. Nephalem is only showing up three times in the Bible that's in Genesis 6134 numbers 1333 where it goes back to the anachem who are giants. Trouble is the anachem are actually Raffaim as they're described in Deuteronomy 2 giant, all other times in the Bible after that goes back to Raffaim. That was the embellishment story of the report, not that there weren't Anakim because that's recorded earlier in numbers 1333 and then restated in Deuteronomy 1. I know that's a lot of information. But the Raffaim are the giants after the

Starting point is 00:53:17 flood whom Nimrod is going to intermarry with and going to create all of the royal dynasties. And they set up the complete nobility class with their extended family that have ruled ever since and controlled the religions, even the priests within the religion. So when Roman Christianity comes about, that priesthood is very quickly taken over by the educated elite who are all part of the bloodlines. So I look at the bloodlines as being the descendants of the giants who are the royal monarchies and they keep those genealogies intact because how pure that bloodline is and how much it's been ennobled or sioned into other bloodlines that would

Starting point is 00:54:06 go back to a specific raffaim or nephalame and or a god or a fallen angel is where they stand in the pack. So as the secret societies roll forward in the post-Diluvian world, it's all controlled by the educated elite all through the bloodlines. So only after the fall of the Knights Templar, and I know I'm covering a lot of territory. Hell yeah. Do you see a decentralization of this ancient masonry?

Starting point is 00:54:35 And they're gonna ensure that their organization can't be toppled so easily as it was in 1307? So they're gonna develop free masonry, they're going to develop the Rosicrucians, they're going to develop the Royal Society, the Illuminati, the Jesuits, and the Rothschild's banking to do everything that the Templars were already doing as they were mold within Roman Christianity. And so you have this these orders. If you look at the society and the ranking of these organizations, you have free masonry is basically at the entry level and you become third degree adept.

Starting point is 00:55:14 So you have the Illuminati above sort of like, imagine it as a tree with these central organizations. And then all of these branch organizations that intersect into that controlling trunk organization so go up the trunk Freemasonry to Illuminati to Rosicrucian To the council of 300 or the committee of 300 to the council of 33 to the 13 families now Damn dude. That is that's totally it. that is totally it. Holy cow. Yeah, and and now now get this thi, thi, thi. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrown. thrown. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thrown. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. the tru. the the thr. th. 13 families. Damn, dude! That is that's totally it, man. That is totally it. Holy cow. Yeah. And now, now get this.

Starting point is 00:55:49 That's just the Western 13 families. Oh yeah, there's Eastern, right? There's like the bloodlines all over the world. So it's not 13, just 13 families. There's 13 families for each region almost. Pretty much, it seems to be the case. Although it's been, it's like if you get into China with the Shah dynasty, which produced all of the royal bloodlines,

Starting point is 00:56:16 then you understand that Xi comes from the word Shah, X, Y, A, and he is part of that royal bloodline. They dominated the Chinese royal bloodline, but they started also other dynasties. So you have the Yamamoto dynasty, that's another important bloodline. You might have the Singh dynasty and the Khan dynasties out of China. You have, you know, people think that all of the dynasties and with the Incas, with the Roka families or the buy-in and the Aztec families were all wiped up. No, just the only king of that time was killed. But all of their nobility status was reinstated by 1525 by the Spanish so that they had all of the sort of vassal power now because they'd be answerable to to the Spani all of the sort of vassal power now

Starting point is 00:57:05 because they'd be answerable to the Spaniards and the Portuguese that they had before and they began to intermarry. Because again, that would be ennobling the bloodlines. And so these families are still in place all over the world. And so you have different groups of people that we're going to, people are going to have to be aware of. And people want to know where does Putin fit in, because Putin's name doesn't show up before his grandfather in the 1850s. But he comes from the Ukraine, his grandfather, in the land of the Puyannanum,

Starting point is 00:57:39 the original Kaiser's, the original royal families. And what they did in Russia when the royal Kaiser's, the original royal families. And what they did in Russia, when the royal families had children outside of their official marriage, because they wouldn't give them the full name, they would give them only partial the name. So he would be a bastard, as they would call it,

Starting point is 00:58:01 but still has those bloodlines. Like, he may not be as quite as pure as some of the other ones, but don't ever kid yourself that he's against the New World Order. He just wants a larger role in the New World Order just as China does. Yeah, I totally agree with that 100%. I think, you know, Stalin, Zionism, I think Zionism is at the heart of communism. and, you know, the, and, and, and, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, think Zionism is at the heart of communism. And, you know, it's like Stalin did the work of the New World Order, man. I mean, like, Hitler was garbage, but, you know, they were,

Starting point is 00:58:38 Stalin was definitely doing the work of the New World Order and the Zionist. And, you know, the, the, the, the Russian hammer and sickle is very much related to the the the th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, you, th, th, you, th, you, th, you, you, th, th, you, th, you, th, you, you, thi, the New World Order and the Zionist. And you know, the Russian hammer and sickle is very much related to the Rothschilds and stuff like that. And you know, when we hear Putin kicked out the Rothschild, I just think that's all, that's just done so Putin thinks he's doing something. It's kind of like when the US government's like, we killed the leader of ISIS. You're like, well, that wasn't hard. He's on your payroll.

Starting point is 00:59:10 If anybody really watches any of that stuff. So it's like, it's not that hard. There's a lot of lip service and pageantry going on. That isn't exactly what's really happening. So I have a question for you. It it it it it it it's like, it's like, or you, or you, or you, or you, or you, or you, or you, or you, or you, that, that, that, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's like, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that thi. So I have a question for you. It's like, or you can comment on that and then I'll ask you the next question. Sure, I'll comment on that.

Starting point is 00:59:31 You might find this interesting is that communism and socialism is called social masonry. And was designed to do exactly what you're talking about was to create this anarchy and move world through catastrophes and wars to the new world world...... or. or or or the world the new world world world world world world world world world world world to to the new world world worldtalking about was to create this anarchy and move world through catastrophes and wars to the new world order. The problem is is the communists got out of control. So what did they do? They funded the Nazis, national socialism, right? And this is an organization that again got out of control. And so then they had to take them down as well. Interesting, interesting. That's interesting. Well then if you look at some of the connections

Starting point is 01:00:12 with the Bush family and modern terrorism, you've got Prescott Bush who was a fellow who was mentored by Ed Harriman, who was major old shareholder of a large bank, and Prescott Bush served on UBC's board. So there's this, yeah. And Prescott Bush was the driving force to create the CIA. And George Sr. was the CIA director when they drafted Osama and bin Laden to fight the Russians. And of course, George Jr. is the president when Osama attacks in 9-11 but he never catches him. Coincidentally, all that people decide on that.

Starting point is 01:01:09 So close. Now, what's interesting about- We also don't forget, Gary, that Obama's, don't forget Obama's grandfather was 10th cousins with George Bush senior, which sounds like a lot of cousins away, but it's really not. That's like three grandmas. So you're three grandmas' way. So the two big forces driving, the CIA was George Bush Sr., and Obama's grandfather who basically pimped Obama's mother to be an MK-ultrsex kitten. And that's kind of where that whole thing, so, you know, we were sold Obama-o-B-Bama-ohm-o'-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o'-o'-o'-o'-a, was, was, was, was, thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi-n, th. thi-a-nit-n, th. th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, th-n, sex kitten. And that's kind of where that whole thing.

Starting point is 01:01:46 So, you know, we were sold Obama was an, Obama is the last of the two-party system I ever voted for. First, first term, after that, I go, oh, did. We got lied to. And then, thank God, Trump came, and I realized that was all BS. So it's got, blessed the last three presidents for completely destroying my view that anyone's coming to save us. But back to what we're talking about. So it's so interesting what you're saying, because I always do believe, man, in my heart of hearts that things get created by these secret groups and they get out of control, get away from them. And I do believe that is what happened with the internet.

Starting point is 01:02:26 They never, you know, when you hear them talk about, and Johnny, you brought this up before, isn't it that when they were talked about the internet, they're like, yeah, they'll maybe be like 10 websites and you're like, what? And now they never took into account that there were dudes who couldn't thuuuuuuuuuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, and thu, thu, and thu, and thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thin, thin, thu, thin, thin, thin, you're thin, and thin, and you thin, you thin, you thin, you thin, you thin, you th...... th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th........ And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you thin, you thin, you thin, you thin, you're th. And, you know, you know, you know, th. And, you know, you know, th. And, you know, th. And, you know, th. And, you know, you know, th. And, you know, you're th. And, find ways to impress women and they just advance the internet to a point where now they're freaking out about controlling it and I believe it's blood in the water. They're trying to do a really great job of it, but I do believe it's blood in the water. But yeah, man, that's a great point. Like Stalin gets out of control. Hitler gets out of control. There's this whole thought that Hitler was just trying to destroy the world banking

Starting point is 01:03:07 organization but I don't know man I'm I I don't know any that so it just seems like they were all funded by the same people. They were they were and you've got the you know the banking connections that go back so if you look at the Nazi bank of BIS it was funded by the banking connections that go back. So if you look at the Nazi bank of BIS, it was funded by the Rockefeller's, the Schroeder Bank. And you also have the Rothschilds in there, you also have the Warburgs that were in there. And it's all, all this financing is funneled through the BIS Bank, the Bank International

Starting point is 01:03:47 Settlements. And they totally funded the Nazi movement. And the other interesting thing in there is that the two lawyers for this organization representing BIS Bank for these banking consortiums was Alan Dulles and John Dulles. And of course, Alan Dulles becomes a CIA agent that is very, very influential in funding the Wahhabi movement after World War II. And the Wahhabi movement after World War II. And the Wahhabi movement, which Al Qaeda comes from, they were Nazi collaborators acting as Nazi intelligence in World War II.

Starting point is 01:04:34 And then after the war, the CIA funds them. And so, and they want them to create terror. They want them to create whether or not they get out of control or not. I think in a lot of cases they do, but I think both organizations sort of need each other too. So when they need the funding, they might do some things that they normally wouldn't want to do. But if people think that these things work in a vacuum, it doesn't. And you need to you need to understand to understand to understand to understand to understand to understand to understand the the the to understand the the the the the the the the to understand the the the the the the the the to understand the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world to understand to understand to understand to understand to understand the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world to understand to understand to understand to understand the world the world to understand the world the world to understand the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world the world works. There was also, you know, because you look at the founding fathers of the United States, right?

Starting point is 01:05:10 There's some different ways to look at it. A lot of people, there's, we've had one, Susan Bradford on, she talked about how she felt like they were, that was, this, democracy was attempt to destroy the, the iron grip of the royal families. But there's also some discussion that maybe, that, that free masonry started out as one thing and then it was infiltrated through the illuminati that's, that kind of decayed from the inside. Do you have any thoughts on that? Well, you got two, two different things sort of going there. So the creation. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so the creation. So, so the creation. So, the creation. So, that. So, that, that, that, the creation. So, that, the creation. So, the creation. So, the creation. So, the creation. So, that, that, that, the that, that, the creation. So, that, that, that that that, the that, the the that, their their that, their their their their their their their their their their that, that, that, their that, that, that, that kind of decayed from the inside. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Starting point is 01:05:46 Well, you got two different things sort of going there. So the creation of the United States was always the Templar dream. And they wanted the United States, and they had discovered it beforehand. And if you ever wonder why Christopher Columbus carried the Templar flag on the Santa Maria, that's where he got his information from as to th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. their their to th. And their, their, th. And their, their, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, thi, that's, tho, that's, tho, tho, th. tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That, th. th. That, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. That, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi he got his information from as to how to get over there. And he was also a Freemason. So when you look at the United States, it was thought to be the building ground for the

Starting point is 01:06:18 model of the New World Order. And so they envisioned all of these states working together, individual states with one strong central world government, and they wanted to develop it to have the power to bring about the new world order as well. But things sort of change as they go, because by the time you have the Jacobite movement moved off of the throne, which Masonry is, you know, very closely tied to the Jacobite movement moved off of the throne, which masonry is, you know, very closely tied to the Stuart dynasty and the Unicorn dynasty. You have the Germans coming over who are

Starting point is 01:06:53 Protestants, which is fine, but they're not necessarily promoting the same causes. So they need to have a place that's set up very quickly, and they've got all of these free masons over there, whether or not as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington or the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their their their their their their their their their the, thioos thioes thioes thioes thioes their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thii. tie. tieuuoosuoosuoosuoosu. tieui. tieuooooooooooooooosuoosuoosuoosuoosu. tieu. quickly. And they've got all of these free nasons over there, whether or not as Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, or the huge list of them, they're going to do a revolution to set up this new government and this new launching pad. And they need this new country to have a constitution

Starting point is 01:07:22 that's going to protect their religion so that they're safe from Roman persecution, the Roman Church, a Catholic Church. And so it's set up for a number of reasons but all for for the same goal. So you also have what's going on is rivalries within the bloodlines. At the end of the day, there can only be one king of the whole world. They're all working directionally, but they all want to be that one family. It's like that series, the Highlanders, there can only be one. And that's sort of the fairy aspect of the bloodlines that they're talking about with the quickening in the allegories that are in that series.

Starting point is 01:08:06 And there can only be one. There'll be room for these other families, but they're gonna be in lower positions. And so there's always gonna be fighting over who's going to present that one family. And that's why we're told biblically and prophecy, like, expect multiple antichrists before the real one steps forward because you have all of these bloodlines around the world who are going to present their

Starting point is 01:08:31 own anti-christ type figure. And you just have to look to Lord Metraya as an example of what comes out of Hinduism or the Mokbee, which comes out of Shia Islamism. All the religions have this Messiah type figure, usually in the tie-in. tie. tie. tie. tie. tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, tie, todi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th thi, thi, th thi, they were they were they were they were they were they were they were thi thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their thi thi thi thi thi the Mokbi which comes out of Shia Islamism. All the religions have this messiah type figure, usually in an incarnation aspect that will be coming for the same close of this age that the Bible talks in the end time. That's that sort of consistency factor in that different lens that we're talking about. But look at things that they work at things directionally even though there are rivalries. Yeah, you know, it's just, you know, it's like I talk about all the time, you know, I kind of look at the New World Order kind of like the gangs of LA where there's like, what was there like 70 gangs and sometimes they're fighting with each other

Starting point is 01:09:25 and sometimes they're working with each other. It all depends on what the goal is and if they need each other. And I think that happens a lot in the New World Order. There is a one group. You can't pin it on one group. There may be if you go far, far enough. There might be a Pindar, the giant albinoinoinoinoino al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al al binoed the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the. thean thean thean thean. tean. tean. thean. thean. thean thean thean thean thean they're the giant albino lizard in the middle earth. I don't know, man. But you know, all these different fractions are working together, you know, you know,

Starting point is 01:09:51 you know, communists work with Zionists when they need it, and then they work with the Freemasons, and then they work with the Black nobility, and, you know, all these different groups work together when it helps them, which is usually getting the elites to control the masses. Now, I don't know if the masses can ever truly take over. I don't know if this, whatever we live in right now, and I don't know how Christian, the discussion of a holographic universe is or a realm is, but I think we live in a haunted house and there's a bunch of actors that work here together to get us, I don't know if you want to call us the animals of this safari or the exhibits of this safari to get a certain reaction from us, you know, and that the arcons somewhat

Starting point is 01:10:44 feed off our negative energy. But they all definitely work together. And it's a very interesting thing. And you know, what we're sold in high school in elementary school about the formation of the United States, I've just learned that history is a giant lie, and it's told by those who want to control. So as we wrap it up here, I have two more questions for you. One thing I'd like to know,

Starting point is 01:11:06 do you believe there's giants to still roam here? Are there still giants amongst us? We've heard stories of giants who, you know, in Afghanistan, attack these people, they ended up killing it, and then they all had to take a vows silence. What are your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your your their their their their their their their their theirtake a vow of silence. What are your thoughts on that? Well it's certainly possible. We don't really get a lot of evidence of it in terms of, you know, day-to-day sightings of the Nephalim or the Raffaim. Certainly the

Starting point is 01:11:38 Afghanistan incident is quite legitimate in the details and credibility in the people that were undergoing it and believe me I have a description of my book that fits quite accurate to what was cited in the Afghanistan incident. So there could be a few that are out there. Typically what I think we have is we have the descendants of the giants in the royal families. That's not to eliminate the factor that there couldn't be ones in stasis as a lot of people would present. I can't prove that, but it's a possibility. They could be in the earth.

Starting point is 01:12:19 They could be in stasis. Or maybe that's just a mythology and a legend. Or there's a good possibility that there'll be a recreation of these giants, just as it was in the days of Noah. But what we do know for today is that the bloodlines of the royal families keep their genealogies that go back into the Mists of Times and to specific giants, like Elbion would be an example of one that's quite a prominent in Europe. But they all have a fallen angel

Starting point is 01:12:53 and they also have a patriarch Nephalim or Raffaim that they take their genealogies back to. So we have the descendants for sure. And again, they're working in the background as to organizing all of the misi-ing all of the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. the misi. to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the miscominis. the miscominis. the miscominis. the miscif. the miscif. the miscif. the misu. the misu. the misu. the misu. the misu. the misu. the miscomine. the miscomine, the the to the to the to the the the to the misc we have the descendants for sure. And again, they're working in the background as to organizing all of what we see today. That's sort of being presented to us. And again, they don't always work together, but they're working directionally in that way. So, so I lean towards more that there aren't those giants today, but there could be. I just don't have enough evidence that they're there. I mean, we have way more evidence about the alien methos.

Starting point is 01:13:34 I mean, way, way more than we do for the giants. So we have about aliens. What do you got? Well, just the whole concept of how many sightings there are that the US government is now to to to to to to to to to to to thiiiii, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I just just just just just just thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I just just just thi, I just thi, I just thi, I just thi, I just thi, I just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin. the. the thean, I just just just just just thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi, thi.? Well, just the whole concept of how many sightings there are, that the US government is now starting to put out information, although it's a lot of its misinformation. But we also know that a lot of these beings are being represented differently than what they are.

Starting point is 01:14:00 You know, for example, you have coming out of these creations that were made by the gods and the fallen angels is you have coming out of these creations that were made by the gods and the fallen angels is you have the little people. And in one of those categories, while there's four groups of the elementals, one is reptilians, which is a major part of the alien mythos, you have three groups of little ones because the salamanders are larger, these are the gnomes, the ugly ones, the mischievous ones like that. Hold on, there's somebody known as the ugly ones?

Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah, the gnomes and the whole group of them. Hobbits, dwarves, all of them, trolls, they're all on this one sort of grouping. There's three standard groups all around the world of them, the gnomes, they looked after genealogies and technology and the knowledge of the giants and the fallen angels and the organizational structure. All these little people had an agenda. So for example, you have the dwarves who are part of the ugly ones, and they created weapons just as they're depicted in Lord of the Rings.

Starting point is 01:15:03 That's not a coincidence. They live in the earth. But the gnomes, they also have flying machines, they come out of fairy mounds and portals, and they kidnap people and they do sexual experimentation on them. Well, these gnomes are the no good, dude. Yeah. And I have descriptions of these acounters in my book. And if you didn't know it was a fairy encounter, you would swear it was a gray alien kidnapping because they look exactly like the grays. So the fairies look like the grays? The gnomes do. Oh, man, that is nuts, dude. That is nuts. I cannot believe these fairies are up to no good, dude. Up to no good, idling people.

Starting point is 01:15:52 A lot of people think they're up to good things, but in polytheism and in the occult, they're at the lowest level of the hierarchal structure. I told, so I'm gonna ask you, I want to ask you a question, do you, what does the Bible say, have you ever heard a Tartaria? Tartaria? Yes. Yes, what are your thoughts on Tataria? Well, it's it's a really big subject, but that comes from the word Tartarus, right? And we get that as one of the words that's translated into English in the New Testament for Abyss. And Tartarus is where the rebellious giants in Greek mythology were locked into after

Starting point is 01:16:39 Zeus and his good Nephilim defeated Poseidon and his evil Nephilim, and they put these ones into the abyss. And in Greek mythology, they escaped out of Tartarus and into Scythia. And Scythia is the home of the Tuatha Dadanan, or the Tuatha Danu, or the Tribe of Anu, and these are the blonde-haired, blue-eyed, pale-skinned giants who migrate up the Danube River to Russia, Germany, Sweden, and the red hair, hazel-eyed, pale-skid ones

Starting point is 01:17:16 migrate to Ireland, Scotland, and England, which produced the Albion Gion, Magog and Gog of English legend and mythology. And they are the root to, because they're all giants, they're Post-Aluvian giants, I think they're Raffaim as opposed to the Polytheus version, and they also spread to the east, where you get all of these great, sort of unwritten histories of the great sort of unwritten histories of the empires of Tartaria.

Starting point is 01:17:48 And Genghis Khan is part of that whole history and it's rumored that he actually takes his genealogy back to King Og of the Bible who was a Raffa'eia. Damn, dude. Okay, final question. Well, dude, you gotta come back and talk about all that stuff. I want to hear more about the ugly. I the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. And th. And th. I th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And to get th. And to get to get th. And to get th. And to get thi. And thi. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And th. And, th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta. And ta. And, ta. And, ta. And, ta. And, toge. And, toge. And, toge. And, toge. And, ta. And, ta. And, ta. And, ta. And, final question. That's just a quick summary. Well, dude, you gotta come back and talk about all that stuff. I wanna hear more about the ugly ones,

Starting point is 01:18:10 because they sound shady, dog. These ugly ones just doing weird stuff to you. I gotta ask a question. This is gonna sound weird. I know you're a Christian man, but just bear with me, dude. How come, how come when when it comes the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people visiting want to get women pregnant, but they seem to want to probe men's behinds? What's your thoughts on that? Well, you're talking about the Sodom and Gomorrah incident. Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 01:18:38 Of course. And so, two things you have to keep in mind is that, first that the angels or the gods they were had a ability to take a physical form. They could take a physical form of choice. So they could be a male and they could be a female. They were called changelings, right? And I won't go into the theology of the Euketarian, but you need something physical to interact in the physical world if you're a spiritual being and that's called an Eucatarian which is the dwelling place for the spirit so they need to have that. So in the Bible you get examples of angels that are recognized as angels some will look like men that are recognized as angels they're their these men that go to Sodom and Gomorrah weren't originally recognized as angels but by the time they they know th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. tho. thoan thoan. they they they thoan. they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they are they they they they they're they're their their their their their their tho. thoe. thoea thoooooooooea thoooooooooe. their their their their their thoooe. they're time they get to Sodom, they know that they're angels.

Starting point is 01:19:26 So the question gets to be, is were they wanting to have sexual homosexual sex with them, or did they want them to change into a human female to have sex with them, or did they want them to have sex with one of their daughters to create more giants? Or is it both? We don't know what's in the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds the minds their their their to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their daughters to create more giants or is it both? We don't know what's in the minds of the people who wanting to have sex with the angels, but you have to remember at that time they were run by a Raffaim king in a five king pentapolis. And just a few chapters before, you get the war of giants in Genesis 14, where you have four giant kings who are making war with the upstart hybrids,

Starting point is 01:20:15 who the Canaanites are living there. They actually intermarry with the Raffaim and create taller than humans, hybrids, but not as large as the Raffaim and create taller than humans, hybrids, but not as large as as the full giants. And so they're ruled by these Raffaim kings. My second book's going to cover this in detailed, but understand that they very much understood the concept of angels and reproduction and their changeling capability. So it could be either. So final question, Matt. Oh, go, I'm sorry. But there's also a history like in the, some of the apocryphal books like ones of Enoch

Starting point is 01:20:53 or the book of Lomech of Kane, which comes out of this series of books, like the book of King Og and the Manitayan giants, and the book of giants. Raffaim had a homosexual nature to them. They, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were more bisexual. So you have that influence there too. But Sodom and Gomorrah were looked by the Gnostics and the Polytheists, not as evil cities. They were looked at as cities, they were the Polytheists, not as evil cities.

Starting point is 01:21:26 They were looked at as cities of light, cities of knowledge. Yeah. And you get that term, a shining hill on a hill. That is what Sodom and Gomorrah were. And that Camulot actually has a camuot so it comes from Shining Light and Lot was the individual who was in Sodom and Gomorrah so that allegory in King Arthur or Camulot is just sort of saying Camulot is a new Gotham it's a new Sodom it's a new Gomorrah.

Starting point is 01:22:03 So interesting so here's what I want I've done this and Gary I got to have you back. Gotham, it's a new Sodom, it's a new Gomorrah. So interesting, so here's what I want, I'll end on this and Gary, I gotta have you back. Kerry, before we do this, so you have a, you have one book out and you have another book coming, what is it, how many books you got out? I know you want to write 40, but what do you got right now? Right now, I just have the Genesis 6 conspiracy, house secret societies and the descendants of Giants plan to enslave humankind. I will have a sequel to the Genesis 6 conspiracy hopefully out by the end of the year and it's going to

Starting point is 01:22:31 be called Prehistory and Prophecy and the subtitle will probably be the Genesis 6 conspiracy part two but we'll see what the publisher has to say about the name. And then I'm also working on a prophetic book at the same time. That's about the second Exodus in the end time. So the, so when you want to look up, you want to look up, Gary Wayne, Genesis 6 conspiracy, and that's what will find your book. Now is all this stuff you talked about, about, you know, the giants doing gay stuff and the ugly ones and all that stuff. that stuff. that stuff. that stuff. that stuff. that is that that that that that that that that that that that that is that that is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's about that's that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's about that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. thi. thi. That's thi. That's thi. It's thi. It's about the the the the the the the the the the the the giants doing gay stuff and the ugly ones and all that

Starting point is 01:23:07 stuff. Is that all in these books? You'll get some of that in the first book, but I'll get more of that in the second book. I cover so much material in the book that I actually had to edit it by 350 pages. And it's still 300 pages long. So there's just so much information on this. So you'll get a little bit of that, you'll get a lot more in the sequel on that and the sources for those books that I'm talking about because I have over 100 pages of end notes in the Genesis 6 conspiracy and my bibliography, people like to buy the book just to get the bibliography. So what I want I I I there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the th I th. I the the the the tho tho the the the the the the the the the to buy the book just to get the bibliography.

Starting point is 01:23:45 So what I want when I write is I want to show transparency on where I get my information from. You check out the veracity of what I'm saying. And so when I wrote the Genesis 6 book, even though I have a Christian, and that's a number 6, Genesis 6 with the Number 6 conspiracy.com. I wrote a lot of it so that whether or not it was the Freemasons or the Rosicrucians or the Gnostics or the various religions around the world, I let them speak in their own words. And then I show how that matched up with the Bible. I didn't want to manipulate it in any way, but people can go and look to the source

Starting point is 01:24:27 to see whether or not I did that because I give you the source on it. So, okay, two more questions, Gary, I gotta ask two more questions. What does the Bible say about flat earth? Is, do we live on a plane under a dome? What is your thoughts on that? Well, I'm agnostic on it. I lean against it, but I'm agnostic on it. And flat earth is something that would take your whole lifetime to just investigate to try and get enough imperial data on it. What I do know is something goes around something. What I do know

Starting point is 01:25:06 is we get 24 hours of darkness and 24 hours of light in the north and I've not been to the South Pole. I can't say that for sure down there but I do know we get it in the north because I'm from Canada and I've been up there. So I do know we have issues with flat earth on some of the eclipses. So the only way this all makes sense is something's going around something. And to me it doesn't matter whether or not there's anything at the bottom of the earth and it's just a dome on top or not. But my gut feeling is we're on a globe and that there's people everywhere on the

Starting point is 01:25:42 globe. But as I say, I'm agnostic on it and- You're open-minded. Yeah, but I'm open-minded, yes. So my final question, what, is there any prophecies in the Bible of what's to come? In terms of the end time? Yeah, about the, you know, COVID, the end of days, because I believe that these parasites

Starting point is 01:26:08 that are doing all this, you know, they're the elites, we can call them rural bloodlines. I think they're soul parasites. And I think they're going against the laws of the universe, and I don't think they win. I think in the end, love and good wins. What's your thoughts? Well, I am Christian, so I believe good wins and that's the God of the Bible. And I do believe that there's going to be an end time, and we may be in that fig tree generation, however long that is, whether it's 120 years or 70 years, and we don't even know whether or not it goes to full length, but only that it happens within that last generation. But the Bible is literally one-third prophecy.

Starting point is 01:26:53 And you know, prophecy is not taught in churches, neither is prehistory. So the people are being blind to what's coming. But the Bible has a lot of prophecy on what's going to happen. And the best way if people want to start to look at it is I would read Matthew 24. Mark 13 gives a similar account,

Starting point is 01:27:15 a few more details, a few less details, but, and same with Luke 17 and 21, but lay all prophecy over on Jesus' chronology, and everything starts to make some sense. And the other thing I would say to people, if you're going to get into prophecy, don't do what a lot of people do. Place everything around what Jesus said, not vice versa, and do not ignore the inconvenient passages. You don't want to be a charlatan. You have to make everything fit. So what I hear a lot in misinformation is they want to make everything fit. So what I hear a lot in the misinformation is,

Starting point is 01:27:46 is they want to ignore particular passages and it just mixes the whole chronology up and the whole meaning up. So that's one of the reasons why I find end time prophecy so fascinating is because there's just so much of it in the Bible. And there's a lot of this that is recorded outside of Christianity. And again, they have a kind of a similar account, but a little bit different ending as you might imagine.

Starting point is 01:28:12 Gary, you seem to have some specific examples in mind when you say, don't ignore the inconvenient passages of Good, could you name a prime couple maybe? Well, yeah, so I mean, the classic one would be is how we always get these predictions of rapture, which is the taking away and the disappearing of people. And people ignore that the two key passages in the Bible say that we're going to be saved from the coming wrath. We can't ignore all of the wrath prophecies and put the rapture too far in advance of it. So they get to get the chronology wrong all of the time. And so a lot of people will also say,

Starting point is 01:29:05 the Daniel prophecies were all fulfilled so that we're not going to have that last seven years. We may have a last three and a half years, but we're not going to have a last seven years. But then they ignore that, well, the Daniel prophecies have two halves of it. It has the first three and a half years and as the last three and a half years, and none of those events in the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the Daniel prophecies have two halves of it. It has the first three and a half years and as the last three and a half years and none of those events in the first three and a half years have been have been fulfilled and all of them have to be fulfilled to be the end time, right? So you can't leave out things and get ahead of the chronology so that if people are predicting when rapture is going to come, understand rapture is going to happen after Babylon comes along in world

Starting point is 01:29:47 government. So you can't just sort of arbitrarily say I see a sign in the sky and we're gonna we're gonna have rapture like they did a few years ago. And then they use Revelation 12 and they get the chronology all out of orders. So you have to take all of the relevant passages and put them together.. to. the to to the to the chrono.. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology. the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. to their. their their their their togology. their tho. their their their their their their their their their the chronology. the chronology. the chronology. the have to take all of the relevant passages and put them together. Do you expect to see any of those events? Well, it's hard to know. I just didn't know if you had a strong suspicion about it, you don't. Well, I'm not a profit. I don't claim to be. I'm a researcher But there's going to be a lot of tribulation Before we get to the start of the last seven years I mean as the birth bangs heat up

Starting point is 01:30:33 There's going to be wars rumors of wars pestilence famine and then you really heat up because with the seal open the seal openings you get 25% destruction of people and everything on the world and then you have 33% percent with the the the the th th th th th thu p p p p p p the the the th the th thu the thu thu thu the the thu thu the the the the the the thu-a the the the th, the thu-up. thi the the the to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theeea toea thea toea thea toea thea toea toea thea thea thea. thea thea the world. And then you have 33% with the trumpet judgments, which happened before the midpoint. And the wrath doesn't come until after the abomination when antichrist is crowned, and probably before the year of the Lord's favor, when the second exodus is going to take place. And sometime after that,

Starting point is 01:31:01 in between the year of the Lord's favor, is likely when when when when when when when when the raptlapapapapapapapapap.... the rapt. the rapt. to to to to to to to to the rapt. to get to to get to get the to get the to get to get to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get to get to get to get, to get, to get, tooomomomomomom. and then, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and then, and then, and then, the the, and then, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. toe. toe. tooke. toe. tooke. tooke. tooke. tooke. tooke. tooke. tooke, toe. toe. toe. to in between the year of the Lord's favor, is likely when the rapture, when you put all the passages together, points to that direction. But if you leave out passages on the rapture, you can make a case for a pre-last seven-year rapture, but you have to discount what Jesus said, and you have to discount these prophecies that don't match. And I know there's different approaches, but my approach is, is that either fits or it doesn't,

Starting point is 01:31:31 because it's either the word of God or it isn't. Terry, my God, you, my friend, dropped the hammer the God on us today. And, man, it was an honor to have you on you. You're taking a shot at the, what we call the Mount Rushmore here. I could talk to you all day, every day. We've got to have you back on talking about ugly ones and all that stuff. I want to hear all that because I think this world is a lot more interesting and people are led to believe, especially those in big. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities. the cities.. their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi their thi. You their their thi. You're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you you you you you you. You're you you. You're you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you. You you. You you. You you. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You're th. You're th. th. thi thi. ti. ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta. You're ta. You're ta. You're ta. Youthink this world is a lot more interesting and people are led to believe, especially those in big cities. I think big cities, there's a lot of voodoo being done so your senses get bombarded and you can't see how complex and beautiful our world is. And there's way more to it,

Starting point is 01:32:22 big foots and nephalum and little shady, kinky, little dwarfs that are out there getting weird with everybody, you know, like all that stuff, like much more interesting. Let me give you a hint of what we might be able to get into on a whole bunch of different topics. So when I said that the fallen angels had offspring that looked just like them, and I talk in my book a lot about the serpent ones. The seraphones are the fiery serpent face, who are the watchers, who created kings and offspring that look just like them.

Starting point is 01:33:00 So if you'll go ock and ottin and look at his serpentine face, and that's well over a thousand years after the flood and biblical chronology, and over 1,500 years after secular chronology would place it, and that's highly diluted. But he's got this protruding chin, these high cheekbones, these thin serpentine lips, these large wrap around eyes, and this elongated skull. He looked like a seraphom. But you had the

Starting point is 01:33:26 adunaki, which a lot of the research shows that they're probably a one-faced version of the trubum. And they had offspring called the Tengu. Or, and these are the Tengu that we see in China and in Japan, or the Zabalba that's out of the Kishamaya. And these aren't from ango that we see in China and in Japan, or the Zibalba, that's out of the Kishamaya. And these aren't from the Plum Serpents. These are from these other beings, and there's one branch of the Zibalba called the House of Camazots, which is the House of the Bat.

Starting point is 01:33:58 And if you Google Camazots, you get the image of the Batman figure because a lot of the superheroes are all based in these ancient Nephalem and Raffaim. And then you have like the lion men of Moab and these like mahis and nirgal is the lion-faced gods who also reproduce. And then you have, and I'll just get back to the big foot connection. And the Gnosticism you have these seven archangels that Aile de. I thahahahahahahahahahahah tham tham tham. their th tham th their th th to the big big foot connection. And the Gnosticism, you have these seven archangels that Ayldevae establishes or creates, and each of them had a different face, and a dawning had a face of an ape. And you wonder whether or not the big foot

Starting point is 01:34:34 might have been offspring of a dawning. So- believe in dimensions? Yes, I do. Heaven's in a different dimension. The abyss is in the earth, but likely in a different dimension. And I think that's you know why we have quantum computing so that you can get into these other different dimensions. But if you understand dimensions, then it starts to make sense that it's more likely that the alien mythos are coming from another dimension through portals as opposed to long distances in the universe.

Starting point is 01:35:11 Gary, I gotta have you back on just to talk about weird things. Yes. Like creatures and stuff. I could do that all day just listening to talk about all these creatures. We have to have you back. You're taking your shot at the Mount Rushmore of 2021. You're in the, definitely in the race, brother. I mean, it was, I could talk to you all day, every day. So thank you for coming on. So real quick, one more time. Gary, tell them where they can find you. The best way to get hold of me is through my website at the Genesis Six Conspiracy.com. That's Genesis Six with the Number Six Conspiracy.com. If it doesn't come up, try a Google search engine and I'm not promoting Google, but other search engines aren't always bringing the website up on the website.

Starting point is 01:35:57 You'll get a generous excerpt of all 98 chapters so you'll know whether it's the book for you or not. And you can click over and buy a sign copy from me if it is, or you can get a Kindle version, click over to that, or to Barnes and Noble.com or to Amazon. to come from them. And if you wanted to ask me a question, or if you wanted some documents, because I supply lots of documents.

Starting point is 01:36:19 Just name the documents. I will just get a hold of me through my website email, contact the author, and I will send you the document at no chart. So if you wanted something on the Tengu that we talked about, you wanted something on let's say Camazot, or if you wanted, how do we know that the giants were real, you know, you know Gilgamesh and his size and how he fits in. I mean, you name the topic, get ahold of me. If I've got it, I'll send it to you. If not, I'll give you some information on it just on an email.

Starting point is 01:36:53 And they can get that through your website, find, contact you through the website. Yes. All right, man, Gary Wayne, you're a bad. thaaaa. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. to to to to to to to get too. to get to get to get to get too. too. too. too. to to me, to me, to me, to me, to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to me. to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get. to get to get to get th. th. to th. the. too. today. today, today, today, too. today, too. too. tooo. too. too. too. to a bad man. There goes that bad man. Thank you, Gary for coming on. Thank you all for checking this out. Dude, this weekend's gonna be bangers. We had Gary on today. We have Whitney Webb on Wednesday. It's nothing but heat. So we're all about that smoke, man.

Starting point is 01:37:18 We're all about that smoke here on the show. And I hope to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that, the th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, tho, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. and I hope to see you guys in Newport in Kansas City and in a home of Nebraska and again check out my special hashtag no-lives matter bell on YouTube you name it it's there Sam Tripoli dot com and if you like it leave a comment less know we love you very much take care and have a great week everybody. We go deep home, boy. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit.

Starting point is 01:37:56 Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just move my mind.

Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #489: Sacred DNA and The Secret Societies Of Giants with Gary Wayne

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