Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #494: The Electrical Universe and the Saturn Death Cult with Troy McLachlan

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit.

Starting point is 00:00:35 Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Good morning, to get your mind down? Good morning, Swarm and welcome to Tim Fall. Hi, you know what I am. You know what I'm here to do? I'm here too. Nice, brother, you're on fire.

Starting point is 00:00:55 Join me as always. And you know him is to love him. And just no, he doesn't smoke the same. My good friend, Xavier Guerrero. What's up? And then on the ones and twos, he's back in the saddle. Jay Nice, Johnny Woodard. Cock! I have no clue what that can't. Why? Why? Why? We just lost all of our young Christian warriors. What's up to you're yelling out homoerotic stuff. Anyway, guys we got a great podcast for you today. It was, let's just say, the Thunder of the Gods. It was a great one dude. I timed it and we set the record today for the longest it's ever been, what would you say, XG, without what? Sam talking? I would say he didn't talk more than five, 10 minutes on this one. Yeah, but as far as far is the the the largest, the largest, the largest, the largest, the largest, the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. to, to, th. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. tho. th. th. th. I would say he didn't talk more than five ten minutes on this one yeah but as far as the largest chunk of time we've

Starting point is 00:01:49 ever gone without Sam having a word at least 30 minutes sounds like they're gonna be sad at least 30 minutes okay so if you troy McCloughlin if you enjoy this leave a review and let us know pieces get pieces of the puzzle come together in my personal opinion If you enjoyed this, leave a review and let us know how much you like it. Let us know. Pieces get, pieces of the puzzle come together in my personal opinion. A lot of shit was explained. A lot of shit. There's a lot more going on in the world.

Starting point is 00:02:15 And as he talks, you can go, hey man, this is happening in real time. In real time, dude. So guys, listen, man, the big 500 is less than a month away and guess what? Only 50 tickets left. 50 tickets left. That's when we added the tickets. Now we're already through the originals. So the original number sold out. So we're technically we have 50 tickets left. To the first show. Second show we got about 70. The original the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We got th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi, we got thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tickets left to the first show. To the first show. Second show, we got about 70 tickets left.

Starting point is 00:02:48 And they both will sell out, and it will be murder. There will be a crush fest. And guess what? We've decided the 50th is also going to be, we're going to name, we're going to officially name the Mount Rushmore of... Yes. Tim Fouja. And there's a lot of extra room on there because one certain giant round head is no longer

Starting point is 00:03:13 on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah, he's gone. Yeah. Adios. I'm also thinking about as people come in, running the first episode. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, man, that's a great idea. Hey, is there anybody out there that thinks they could edit together the best?

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Starting point is 00:03:49 That's what I'm saying. Get one of those in there. Get some time when Xavier said something that made sense. Get it when he was and fall asleep? Can we get the abs? Yeah. Dude, it was hot. So much going on here, guys. So much going on. Guys, I just, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so I, so I just, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, thi, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. I, thi. I, thi. thi. I, so much going on here, guys, so much going on.

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Starting point is 00:04:31 Go grab those tickets at Sam Tripoli.com. And I haven't put them up yet, but I finally got a ticket link. Miami, I'm coming. The 21st big 500 with his which is October 16th so come get no no let's that's two days after sorry that the weekends after so it goes the 16th I got a week off then after that the 21st through the 23th I believe let me look at that come on let me crunch some numbers here let me crunch some numbers okay it is definitely the 20th twenty Let me look at that. Come on, let me crunch some numbers here. Let me crunch some numbers.

Starting point is 00:05:05 Okay. It is definitely the 20th, the 30th, the 29th and 30th. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going the 15th, the 16th. I'm in, I'm in Vegas for the 500th, and then the 21st through the 23rd, I am in Miami and then I have the next week off which is my birthday which I'm not excited about this year but all those tickets you want to see me live go to Sam Triply dot com grab your tickets there guys the show I'm hustling I'm working we're slinging all that content dick for you okay

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Starting point is 00:09:29 rock and let's go let's rock guys great I'm telling you you're gonna love this episode man it's one of the best we've done really making a run for that Mount Rushmore You go deep home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of now. All right, let's get into it. Very excited to have this topic today. Can't talk about this enough. It's one of my favorite topics to talk about.

Starting point is 00:09:58 Very excited today. He's joined us. Please welcome Saturn Death Cult researcher Troy McLaughlin. How are you brother? Great, thanks very much for having me. So I appreciate you coming on and talk about, this is a weird thing to say, but one of my favorite topics to talk about, you know I know we're talking about Saturn death cults, but I just, I just for me when I started learning about this subject and these groups, it really like a lot of pieces of the puzzle come together.

Starting point is 00:10:32 And when you have discussions, you always have, you know, this group runs everything, that group runs everything, this group runs everything, this group runs everything, but I always find that when you really study whatever group you're talking about, right, you start to see symbols that kind of like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, like, th, like, like, like, like talking about, right, you start to see symbols that kind of like are hiding in plain sight, right? And you're like, and it always leads back to like Saturn worship for me. So for our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Well, Troy McLaughlin, I was born in South Africa, brought up in New Zealand. I've spent many years in Southeast Asia as an adult. I'm now living in the UK.

Starting point is 00:11:14 I developed an interest in what's called Saturn theory when I was at university where I studied Egyptology. And ultimately American and Chinese politics was what my major ended up being. It was while I was at university I stumbled across the writings of a guy called Emmanuel Valikovsky who caused quite a stir back in the 1950s with his book, Worlds and Collision, in which he suggested that the the solar system as we know it was very different to the ancients in teams in te of what they saw in the solar system, as we know, it was very different to the ancients in terms of what they saw in the skies. He caused an absolute for roar

Starting point is 00:11:50 and in the scientific community, became the classic to the 20th century scientific heretic. And people who've taken up his lead, have gone on to sort of develop what would be called the electric universe model and its subset called Saturn theory. And Saturn theory is the idea that the planet Saturn with two significant terrestrial satellites, one Mars, one Earth, was captured by the solar system within the time span of human existence on Earth. And that capturing event, which caused tremendous amount of interplanetary upheaval,

Starting point is 00:12:31 is basically what's behind most of the mythological record, as opposed to the anthropomorphic, you know, sort of interpretations that are bandied about, that mythology is some kind of fantastical psychodrama done by people with a very primitive mindset. Sadden theory postulates that mythology is actually a key to understanding what the skies looked like for the ancients, and that that world really didn't settle down to the current configuration of planets we see today until probably as early as 3,000 years

Starting point is 00:13:12 ago and so and so. Yeah, I followed that sort of line of cosmological thinking. It's a new form of cosmology, very radical. It's based on the electric universe principles that postulate that the universe is governed by electromagnetic principles, more so than is governed by just simply gravitational physics based on mass alone. And as a result of that, uh, that particular, it's very easy in our, well, in terms of the people who studied us, to draw a comparison to what mythology told us was happening thousands of years ago and what that model predicts can happen in terms of interplanetary cataclysms.

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Starting point is 00:16:34 Damn, too, we don't even have time. So there's so much, I mean, just know, out of the three th th th three three three three three three, thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. thr. thr. thr. that, thr. thr. thr. to, what, what, what, what, adult level, okay? The rest of us are a little slower, so I'll let you guess which ones, but I flung first grade, so we have to really unpack everything you said right there. And I want to start with the theory of what, what as you understand is the electric universe theory? Well, the electric universe model, um, it's, um, it's, um, it's, um, it's, three.. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thus, th, thus, th, thus, the, thus, thus, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I I'll, th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll, th. I'll, the, the, the, thro, the, three, the, thro, the, thro, the, the, the, the, the, the, theory. Well, um, the electric universe model, um, it's, as I said, it rejects the gravity only solution for celestial mechanics, which is the way basically physical bodies, um, work off each other in the universe. Um, and it proposes that electromagnetism is the primary force in operation throughout the visible universe. So magnetism is many magnitudes powerful,

Starting point is 00:17:32 more powerful than gravity, and all magnetism is evident of past and present electrical activity. And on a planetary and galactic level, there is a very seriously powerful force, much more powerful than celestial mechanics give us when they just only take into account mass and gravity. The way that one can understand the electric universe model is that if you think of space as a giant soup of variable and interacting

Starting point is 00:18:06 electrical fields in which massive electrical currents are conducted through a substance called plasma, and this is a key to understand, plasma, in mainstream science, I should qualify this. In mainstream science, you've heard of things called black holes, dark matter, dark energy, these kinds of concepts. The reason that those exist in traditional scientific thinking is because when they looked at the observable universe saw the stars, the planets that we can see with the naked eye and other optical implements, they had a heart attack and they realized that they were missing up to 95

Starting point is 00:18:47 and maybe up to 97% of the mass needed to explain how the universe operates, how it all sort of interacts with each other. So they started creating concepts of things that we couldn't see to explain this difference. Black holes in dark energy and dark matter were the sort of mathematical constructs that were used to explain why 95 to 97% of the physical universe

Starting point is 00:19:15 was missing in terms of just a gravity only model of how the universe works. Plasma, which is, you've seen those, you've seen those very pretty sort of Nasta pictures of space, all lots of colors and so on like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, the ones where, sort of, honestly, they look like a Jackson Pollock painting. Yeah, I totally understand.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Yeah, yeah, well, that's what you call false, false color images. So space doesn't actually look like that to the naked eye or anything optical. All they've done is they've assigned values to the energies that they're picking up in space. So, you know, certain electromagnetic energy goes to red, some goes to green, some to yellow and so on there, you get this, this sort of abstract, you know, vision of the universe being multi-colored. Most of what you're seeing in those false color images is plasma. Plasma is this fourth state of matter, and it's highly conductive of electricity. And it's, it's that plasma, which, funny enough, makes up about ninety-s-magnetic, you know, the the the, you, you, you, you, you, you, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th vision vision vision vision vision, the th vision, thi vision, triv, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu, tu. v tu. tu. thii, thi, the the the the the the And it's that plasma, which, funny enough, makes up about 97% of the observable universe, that the electric universe says is conducting all the forces required to understand how galaxies,

Starting point is 00:20:40 planetary solar systems, and basically any celestial bodies interact with each other. So as I said, think of space as a giant super variable and interacting, you know, sorry? Yes, I'm totally game what you're saying. So, for those who are at the back of the short bus, okay? When English is your second language. So, so what you're basically saying is that there is this belief that like space isn't empty, but more of it is of plasma almost what, you know, I've heard other people talk about more like liquid, right? Is that what we're kind of getting at? Yeah, plasma, you know, this path of the, is also something that describes blood, you know, the concept.

Starting point is 00:21:28 And the first, what you would call the electrical scientists, the electric universe observers and so on, use plasma from the blood because that's how they saw plasma behaving. And, you know, it really, the mainstream science will tell you that it's simply ionized gases. All right, and that these gases hold no gravitational pull or anything like that, and not dense enough to, you know, to keep planets and orbits and so on. But plasma being ionized gas is conductive of some sort of a force. And what I should let your viewers understand

Starting point is 00:22:05 about plasmus it comes in three modes. It comes in dark mode, it comes in glow mode and it comes in arc mode. Dark mode is by far the majority of what plasma does. You know you don't actually see it with a naked eye. You've got to use scientific instruments to juice up the electrical current that's running through it or the ionized aspects of the gas to be able to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see the to see the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th the thi thi the th th th th th th th thi modes thi modes thi modes thi modes thi modes th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the to be the to be the the the to be the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. theee. the the the the the the the You've got to use scientific instruments to juice up the electrical current that's running through it or the ionized aspects of the gas to be able to see it. Glow mode, the classic example of plasma and glow mode is your northern lights, the, you know, the lights that you see above the Arctic Circle that, and also below under the Antarctic region, they've got the same effect. These, the glow mode shows that you've got an uptick in electrical energy taking place.

Starting point is 00:22:55 Mainstream science says this is simply the ionized atoms of gas being excited by extra electrical activity and so on. We call that glow mode in the electric universe. The arc mode is, and this becomes very important to understand what mythology is all about, arc mode, where you have seen it in the everyday world, it's straightforward lightning, fork lightning, sheet lightning, that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 00:23:20 It's basically lightning. And in the electric universe, this can take place at almost galactic levels, which is pretty huge, certainly at solar system levels and certainly when two celestial bodies, a planet, two planets, a planet and the star, when they meet in such a situation where the are electric fields interact, that can cause a short-circuiting static effect, and you can go into arc mode, arc mode electrical activity with a, you know,

Starting point is 00:23:56 with a plasma that's interacting there. And, you know, to cut to the chase in terms of how it reflects in mythology. In ancient mythology, for instance, the god Zeus, Jupiter, as other people know it, was known as the god of the Thunderbolt. The thunderbolt being that lightning strike. It's where in a lot of religion we get that whole thing. If you do something bad, God's going to strike you dead with an electric lightning strike.

Starting point is 00:24:26 It all comes from the idea that in mythology, people witness planets interacting in such a way where arc mode, very destructive arc mode, was taking place, these flashes of lightning between planets as the celestial bodies were stabilizing themselves or, what's the word, it's, they, they, where, where, they, where, with, they, they, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, that, that, that, that, the, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the celestial bodies were stabilizing themselves, or what's the word, it's they, where their electrical fields were rebalancing towards each other, you get this electric activity. It's no different on a cold, dry day when you shuffle across the, the carpet towards a, you know, a radiator, or a, or, or a, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or. as. As, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the carpet towards a, you know, a radiator or your kitchen tap,

Starting point is 00:25:11 you touch it, you get that electric shock, that's static electric shop. That's, you're just rebalancing, your rebalancing your electric field with the, with the metal object that you've just touched. In the electric universe, this can be scaled up to planetary interactions. And this is the connection to mythology. Where do we read of this kind of activity,

Starting point is 00:25:36 taking place at planetary levels, is in mythology. And the electric universe provides a very succinct model for explaining what the ancients actually saw in terms of what was happening in our solar system, you know, well, for the majority of the time before the 3,000 years ago, from about 12,000 years ago to 3,000 years ago, this was a highly active period of time in the Earth's history. Okay man that is a lot. So Johnny, so basically we spaces as soup and plasma are the are the planets plasma or are they like solid like. Like like we think of them.

Starting point is 00:26:28 Okay, so planet plasma, they're either gas. So what I said was plasma is like the fourth state of material in the universe. So you've got solids, you've got liquids and you've got gases. So a brown dwarf is mostly a gaseous, you know, sort of substellar body. You know, Jupiter, for instance, is a gas planet, where a terrestrial planet, planet Earth and so on. So if you understand that when a body either made of solid gas or liquid travels through deep space, it has its own electrical field and their electrical field is conducted by plasma. The plasma envelops those bodies and basically creates bubbles. Electric fields are essentially bubbles.

Starting point is 00:27:22 magnetosphere is what astrophysicists refer to the big bubble that protects us here on the planet from cosmic radiation and solar flares, that sort of thing, plus our atmosphere, but mainly the magnetosphere, so every body in space, every celestial, solid body, liquid, or gaseous body, has a kind of an electric field. And that electric field is governed by the greater electric fields that it travels in. So in terms of electricity, the smaller body with the smaller electric field is negative to a larger body

Starting point is 00:28:05 that has a larger electric field. So imagine a brown dwarf approaching the electric field of the sun. The sun will have a much more positive, more powerful electric field than the brown dwarf. The brown dwarf will be coming through space with its own what its own bubble of plasma. We call it in in the electric universe model, that's called the Langmuir sheath, which is also it's also called that in mainstream science. Irving Langmuir discovered that basically physical bodies develop these shield-like bubbles when they have an electrical field and when they travel

Starting point is 00:28:46 through other electric fields. And as that smaller brown dwarf approaches the sun's electric field, its own electric field will interact with the sun, and the short circuiting will take place as the, as the, and I've just remembered the word, as the electric field of the brown dwarf seeks to equalize with the sun's electric field. And that will manifest itself in some pretty dramatic arc activity, arc being lightning flashes, that sort of thing. In other words, the brown dwarf you would expect it would probably electrically overload and go into a Nova type, you know, situation where it flashes forth and it expands a lot of

Starting point is 00:29:34 energy as it seeks to equalize with the sun. The sun will also experience distortions, but its size makes it the dominant power in their interaction. It can absorb it in the interaction. It can absorb it. Is that what we're thinking? Yes, yes, and and this is at the crux of what is called Saturn theory. Satin theory basically proposes that our sole system was not created by an accretion disk that you know basically, basically joined together in various planets and we and all the planets were formed where you see them today. The electric universe model is more about the idea of captured planets or captured bodies

Starting point is 00:30:17 that become planets of a particular star. So the solar system that we see today, according to the electric universe, is a collection of captured celestial bodies, planets, and some brown dwarf stars have become gas planets, particularly Saturn. And that, I think the most radical aspect about that, of course, is that we're proposing that this process of capture took place within human memory, the corporate human memory, and was witnessed and actually recorded in the form of mythology. So in fact, it probably happened as recently as 12,000 years ago and only settled

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Starting point is 00:33:08 So I could definitely see this starting to happen in there. So before we move on to the death cult, final question is, there, how do, what is the difference between a gas planet and a terrestrial planet? How do, can a gas plant become a terrestrial planet. How do, can a gas plant become a terrestrial planet? The core of a gas planet is, is, you know, sort of molten liquid iron metals of that type, but mainly speaking a gas planet is, you know, basically it's a very dense cloud of material that circles around a core.

Starting point is 00:33:49 So I guess I should take you back to what we propose, that, you know, basically a short summary of how Saturn went from being what's called a brown dwarf star to a gas planet that we have in the solar system. And basically what, what we're proposing is that a brown dwarf starthat we have in the solar system. And basically what we're proposing is that a brown dwarf star is like any other star in the electric universe model. It's a electrostatic phenomenon that is caused by what's called a z-pinch in the currents, the electrical currents that plasma is conducting throughout the universe.

Starting point is 00:34:25 So a Z-Pinch will pull in elements into a core and then we'll pull in gases that are around and it will form into something that starts to glow in a very dull light spectrum, usually in the infrared to ultraviolet light spectrum. It won't glow like a main sequence style, which is a seriously strong Z-pinch effect in the electric universe model. All stars, if you can imagine stars being like Christmas lights on a Christmas tree,

Starting point is 00:34:58 they're all connected by these cables, and they glow because of the resistance that each bulb sort of gives to the current that's passing through those wires. Well that's what we're proposing the you know basically galaxies are. They're basically strings of plasma connections where you get points of of starlight where these headpins take place. Round the wolf star doesn't quite get that glow. It's a lot less than the main sequence star. And it attracts a lot of gas particles into it.

Starting point is 00:35:38 If it overloads, some of its more solid core can fracture off and eject bodies which can become satellites planets or moons, as you would call them at that point in time. And so basically that's how we believe a brown dwarf star forms and it's mostly gas. The other important element into it is a brown dwarf copious carriers of water. Water being one of the most phenomenal substances in the universe, it's the only substance we know that both expands when heated and cooled. No other substance does that. Everything contracts when it's cooled and expands when it's heated. Water and expands when it's heated water actually expands when it's cooled as well as heated but water becomes part of the gas is the vapor that

Starting point is 00:36:32 surrounds a brown dwarf star and in the electric universe model some of the sort of leading proponents of this this is probably the most exciting thing about it brown dwarf stars is because of that big plasmathis is probably the most exciting thing about it, Brown Dwarst Stars, is because of that big plasma bubble that they create around themselves when they're formed in the plasma Z-Pinch effect, because of this giant galactic field creating that plasma bubble around them, the Langmiosheath, the inside of that plasma bubble with the warm glow of the browned ore star becomes a very, very conducive space for the establishment of life. Life as we know it, you've got water, you've got heat, you've got the right type of light

Starting point is 00:37:21 for plant growth, all these sorts of things. So a lot of guys in the electric universe, would advise people who are looking for alien forms of life. Go looking for the 7,000 plus round-door stars between us and the next main sequence star. You know, to try and look into those using infrared, radio, astronomy and so on. It's the most likely place you're going to find alien life.. And the the the thiiiii. And the the thi. And the the the thi. And the the the thi. And the thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, you' you you're thi. thi. you you you you you you you you th. You th. You've th. You've th. You've th. You've th. You've thi. You've th. th. You've th. th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi. the the the thi. the the thi. thi. the. the. the. theat theat theat theat the the theat the theat the the the theat theat thea. thi. thi. radio astronomy and so on, it's the most likely place you're going to find alien life. And what we're proposing is that that brown dwarf star, a brown dwarf star, had two planets, two terrestrial bodies, they had fractured off as core, Earth and Mars. They developed a period of time that we call the purple dawn of creation,

Starting point is 00:38:05 simply because that was the light inside that if anybody existed on those two-terrestrial planets, that's all you would see is this purple light from the infrared and the ultraviolet blue spectrum of the brown dwarf. And that was cocooned inside the plasma bubble. And when that plasma bubble was captured by the sun, everything equalized for that brown dwarf star, started off a sequence of the events during the capture that effectively reduced the brown dwarf star to a gas planet.

Starting point is 00:38:37 And that gas planet shone like a star in the northern celestial north of the earth for a very considerable period of time at the beginning of human experience and But was eventually dislodged by the power of the sun and now exists merely as a gas giant climate on the outer edges of the solar system, but this is the crucial aspect that the ancients gave satin this little spe this is the crucial aspect that the ancients gave Saturn this little speck of light out on the outer rims of the solar system. They gave it such a prominent place in the mythological record that it's all big as belief that they they referred to as their first and best son, that it shone like a son, that it's all biggest belief that they refer to as their first and best son, that it's shown like a son, that it was worship like a son and so on. And this is largely the problem that most people have in grasping the concept of Saturn theory.

Starting point is 00:39:34 And that is that sun worship in the ancient world is what has often been confused with Saturn worship. People think the Egyptians worship the sun that we see today, but in fact most of the Egyptian mythology and other mythologies point to the celestial north as to where the sun was and that it stood there basically in a stationary position. I like to read Dwaradu Cardona's statement, one of the researchers that I follow about Saturn. Basically, I'll quote him as this. The evidence of myth which points to Saturn having once occupied a position above Earth's north polar regions is volness. There is not a race on earth that has not preserved at least one account which

Starting point is 00:40:25 states as much. According to this evidence, Saturn occupied the central position in the northescial regions. It rotated and rotated widely, but other than that it was immovable. Now that condition, end of quote, that condition lasted for a, you know, a number of thousand years before Saturn was eventually dislodged and placed where it is today. Whoa. For people who believe that the, for people who believe that the, that these skies have always been the same, the uniformitarian dogma that that mainstream science is based on, this of course, when you read this knowledge in the mythological record, it causes all kinds of heart attacks because the ancients are basically saying,

Starting point is 00:41:12 don't look at the sun that rises from the east to it sets in the west, look at that thing that is up in the celestial north. That was the big boy of celestial bodies that they were worshiping. Well, when we look at to the celestialest, we the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their knowledge theireolestology knowledge the their knowledge their their their their thology knowledge knowledge knowledge. their thology, their thoeological thogeaueological thogedler. thology, tholeological tholeological thioeaseaseaseaseasedler. thioe their theirneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneaue the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeooooe an theoooe an theooooooooe an the an the an thooooooooooe. the the the the big boy of celestial bodies that they were worshipping. Well, when we look at the celestial north, all we see is a little wee pole star, and nothing much happening up there. And so 150 years ago, academia, in concert with the uniformitarian sciences of geology, and the Darwinist approach, and so on, they conspired, or not conspired, they contrived to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.e, they.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.eol, toe, toe, toe, toeole, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, they.e, was, was, they.e and so they conspired, or not conspired, they contrived, there's probably a better word, they contrived to to make everything that

Starting point is 00:41:51 referred to Saturn in ancient mythology in its various forms, the Egyptians versions, the Aztec versions, everything like that, had to conform to Sun worship. And yet this... There we go. There we go. I got to cut you off for two seconds because you're crutching it the cruching the cruching the crutch the crucot. their their their to crucot to crucot to to to crucot to their to to their to to to to to sun worship and yet this was there we go there we go I got to cut you off for two seconds because you're crutching it you're you're killing it right now it's awesome so much I okay man we're gonna have to have you back on another show to talk electric universe because you just blew my mind and because the last stuff starts to click when you think about that but man you really dropped another hammer when you get into that click when you think about that. But man, you really dropped another hammer

Starting point is 00:42:25 when you get into that some worship is the worship of Saturn. Because that, all of a sudden that piece just connects so much for me in my belief of that, again, behind all these quote and quote groups that run everything, there is symbolism that leads to Saturn and when we talk about Christianity we talk about the group that put the book together Which is the Bible and how they were Saturn were how they were? Some worshippers, but when you take a look and you go? It wasn't the sun as we know it, but it's actually the sun Saturn. That even makes even more sense to me because that leads us to who does Rome worship, who does the Vatican worship, when you take a look at all these people when you get into like, when you get into Jeffrey Epstein, how much a cult

Starting point is 00:43:21 symbolism is in what he does? And you you know we hear he's part of them The the mega group which isn't like Donald Trump okay, but it is in a weird way because You know Donald Trump's a Jesuit leads to what? Jesuit leads the Rome which leads to sadden worshiping all over again, right? So all this starts to click together. When you think about what you're saying right now. Yeah, well, the, the, if you'd come, been back in Roman days and said, so are you a Roman, they wouldn't know what you were talking about. If you'd said, are you a child of Saturn, they would know what you were talking about. Romans referred to themselves as, you know, Saturn, satanalia been their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the, Saturnalia been their biggest feast that became Christmas. They didn't really have a concept of Rome in the sense that we, you know, have bestowed on them through our movies and our history books since then. I think, you know, going back to this, this problem

Starting point is 00:44:23 of modern academia, and particularly the sciences, basically second-guessing what the ancients actually told us to be able to fit into the skies that we see today, because it just becomes impossible for them to conceive, why would the planet Saturn have been worshipped as something in the north, a giant sun in its own right, when it's only just been a speck, this pinprick of light, you know, out in the solar system?

Starting point is 00:44:51 And as a result of that, the problems that you get from there, say, disassociated the names of the planets from the gods of mythology, when Plato and various authors are very clear that the planets were considered to be gods. That the association with Saturn with the planet Saturn is well and truly established, but modern science has to ignore these statements because they believe that the sky we see, we see today has been as it is for, you know, at least four billion years and certainly longer than the existence of humanity. And so, you know, a lot of that is hidden from even the occultists, even the people

Starting point is 00:45:36 who are involved in the stuff don't quite realize the significance of understanding a capture, theory of how the planet, how the solar system formed as opposed to the significance of understanding a capture theory of how the planet, how the solar system formed, as opposed to the uniformitarian gradual sort of way of planetary formation. And, you know, this is the reason I wrote Saturn death cold was to hopefully get people on the process of understanding that mythology is a record of actual events. And as such, it, how can I put it, it demystifies those deep ingrained archetypes that respond to symbolism in negative ways.

Starting point is 00:46:21 People will no longer be held captive to the subconscious symbols that are used by people in a very exploitive way to gain control over people and they start to understand you know a different approach to mythology and basically the rotten foundation that religion, a lot of religion and certainly the esoteric and a cult groups are, you know, have based their thinking on. Let me ask you something, Troy. Are you saying right now that you believe the myths of the ancients aren't actually missed but they're actually historical records of things that actually happen?

Starting point is 00:47:03 Yes. Yes. The vast majority of them. Tertplanetary cataclisms, and they're are are are, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, their, their, uh, their, uh, their, uh, uh, their, their, thus, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, ca, ca, ca, ca, cut, ca, cut, cututus, their, their, their, their, their, their, their? Yes, yes. Oh my God, dude. They're interplanetary cataclysms recorded for posterity as a way of a warning. And you see. Oh, hold on real quick. Let me just clarify. What miss?

Starting point is 00:47:18 What, hold on? That's why I'm getting into. So let's say the story of, um the God of time and is cronis cronest right and this is the big santon so his son comes to kill him right that is the whole thing his son is a zoos comes to kill Cronus do you is that literal do you think in your opinion yeah okay I'll qualify this to thus as. Is that literal, do you think, in your opinion? Yeah, okay. I'll qualify this as something that is absolutely astounding.

Starting point is 00:47:52 And the biggest lost opportunity that Saturn theory people ever had in making what in science they call a prediction. And that is that the ancients knew the planet Jupiter, which is named after Zeus, Zeus's Jupiter, they knew that the planet Jupiter had rings like Saturn. That is something that we didn't know. I think it was only about 30 years ago that we discovered that there were rings, very like Gossamer type rings. But somehow the ancients knew this. They also knew, you know, that obviously

Starting point is 00:48:26 that Saturn had rings. Now we didn't discover Saturn's rings until the time of Galileo, you know, since the ancient sort of age. Yet for some reason, the ancients were able to give very good descriptions of four main planets, Saturn, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter that defy, if they defy being able to discover that if it's just the naked eye that you're watching these planets where they are today. So Jupiter having these rings, at some point after Saturn is captured by the Sun and starts to fail as a Sun in Earth's northern celestial regions, it comes into interaction with an existing gas giant, Jupiter, that was a native planet to the Sun. And there is a catastrophic interaction between Jupiter and Saturn.

Starting point is 00:49:25 And to the ancients, this is what dislodged Saturn from its position in the north, in the celestial north was its interaction with Jupiter. And hence the legend of Zeus, the hidden child of Kronos, who is the Greek Saturn, coming back and displacing his father. Okay, now I get what you're saying. So it wasn't literally a person like Kronos and literally Zeus, but it's the story of the planets that they've had, they gave them names of gods.

Starting point is 00:50:02 Okay, gotcha. I almost- And they had such devastating effect on the earth because of the proximity to the earth that, you know, in the ancient mind, the earth was governed by what happened in the heavens. This was the, you know, the empires and kingdoms rose and fell according to the comets, according know, according to comets and planetary interactions. This is why ancient religion was so incredibly obsessed with watching how celestial bodies maneuvered in the skies, and when anything sort of was untoward, you know, people literally freaked about the effect and prepared for what is another dooms-day. And, and you see, I think, you see, I think, you see, I, you see, I the, you see, I the, the, you see, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you the, you the, you the, you the, you, you the, the, the, you the, you the, you the, you the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, th, the, th, thin, the, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, the thin, the thin, thin, the thin, the thin, the the thin, the the the effect and prepared for what is another doomsday.

Starting point is 00:50:46 And you see, I think, you see, what I write about is where my book is different from other electric universe, people who write about Saturn and the capture of Saturn and its implications for mythology. So what I write about is an elite-driven, a worldwide occult culture that is based on a forgional understanding of the mythological record, the one we've been discussing. One that promotes an agenda that's focused on creating a new and exclusive golden age for a self-appointed elite.

Starting point is 00:51:23 And it's an elite that's basically determined to rule humanity and see themselves as heirs to the ancient golden age that was presided over by the mythical creator God, Saturn, which was established in the first golden age during the capture process when Saturn was first captured by the sun. Most of us know this golden age and the god of it as Saturn, but it goes by it, you know, it goes by. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the the, the, it, the, the, it, the, the the, the the the, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their the capture process when Saturn was first captured by the Sun. Most of us know this golden age and the god of it as Saturn, but it goes by a multitude of different names, all with the same archetypal elements to it in virtually all other cultures. Unfortunately for most of us, however, this, what I call a Saturn cult or culture in all

Starting point is 00:52:04 those forms and permutations, it has evolved out of various ancient priesthoods and religions to come to promote a culture of total socioeconomic and political control. Yes! And it negatively exploits a number of deep-seated all these psychological scars that are a residue of the great doomsday event when Saturn was dislodged from from its position in the northern skies and so on. So, you know, these, these psychological scars throughout humanity, these are all, you know, these are all directly linked back to actual catastrophic interplanetary events. Well, that's what I believe it can be linked back to actual catastrophic interplanetary events.

Starting point is 00:52:45 Well, that's what I believe it can be linked back to with when you look at mythology in its original form. And basically, it was a witness by humanity, that managed to survive this and not in the too distant past. However, even though these massively, you know, destructive and planetary events have been largely forgotten and clouded over by the haze of the mythological record, you know, you don't get a sense of this today when people talk about mythology at all. The, it's these deep psychological scars that were created by the doomsday event that dislodged

Starting point is 00:53:25 Saturn that are still with us today, and it's these scars that are exploited through symbolism by people with malicious intent. And it's my belief that what has evolved in a very distorted way is the idea that there is a way back to another golden age, a kind of a mythical paradise that happened when Saturn first burst into light, when it first got captured by the sun before it was dislodged, that we will go into another golden age of a similar nature except the difference being here is that we will enter it through a man-made doomsday event and enter into a man-made technologically driven Golden Age

Starting point is 00:54:13 that benefits an elite few. Are you talking transhumanism? Transhumanism, I believe, is the absolute basis of this idea of an evolutionary step into a new golden age. Yes, it's technologically driven, but based on an occult misunderstanding of the original Golden Age. But it's basically their idea of how the Earth should be ruled by, well, it's, you know, it's a machine like transhumanist vision, you know, of human existence. It eliminates need for procreation or into human contact and relationships. And, you know, the kind of things that most of us believe make us human. They, they are looking to change that through this new, sort technology-driven Golden Age, but they need a

Starting point is 00:55:05 cataclysmic event to satisfy the ritual aspect that has been developed over the centuries to bring about this new Golden Age because they do believe in a force. So it's some sort of universal force out there that can be manipulated through ritual and such to, you know, to ensure that they're the ones who come out on top. Now, do you believe in astrotheology? Isn't that what it is called? It's basically that most of our stories in the Bible are based on the constellations

Starting point is 00:55:39 and stuff like that? Yeah, I have to qualify that. I don't believe in the astrological source sense or whatever. I believe that constellations and such have been utilized as much as the written words in preserving records and also, you know, warnings to future generations about possibilities in the future and so on. And again, it's these things that have been largely distorted to create the modern concepts of the occult and so on. I mean, you mentioned Jeffrey Epstein, you know, with all his temple stuff on his little

Starting point is 00:56:22 island and so on. It's obvious to me that Epstein was a Thelima, a believer in Alstacralli's type of religion that borrowed heavily from Egyptian symbols. I don't believe Alstair Crowley knew what he was doing, especially just borrowed to create a Sophic view, this, you know, this Greek idea of do what thou will should be the own, the whole of the law. And, you know, people have run with that, particularly in the celebrity circles. The Lima seems to be the the favoured form of this. But it all has its origins in what I would call the Silver Priesthoods. These were groups of people who tried to preserve the silver priesthoods. These were groups of people who tried to preserve the great golden age period in the form of

Starting point is 00:57:13 weights and measures and religious writings after the doomsday event that took place, I believe, around about 6,000 years ago. And I think that's crucial to understand that there was a period when humanity emerged from a dull primordial darkness, a purplish light, into a bright world where Saturn, you know, what I believe to be the planet, burst forth. And as a result of that, the reason that this period when after Saturn burst forth, let there be light moment in the ancient records, if you take the biblical example, that was when humanity was able to actually grasp the concept of the measure of time.

Starting point is 00:58:00 And there's the measurement of time, hence Kronos, the god of time, and Kronos also being Saturn. But there's the measurement of time that launches civilization,, because, because, because, because, because, because, because that it that, that, that's th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their lighte.e.e.e.e.liii.e. their, their their lighte.e.e. their, their, their, their, time, hence Kronos, the God of Time, and Kronos also being Saturn. But there's the measurement of time that launches civilization, because prior to that, it's impossible to know how long you slept without an ability to calculate time, the passage of time. And let alone meet up with people at certain landmarks and say, I'll see you here next Tuesday, or I'll see you here next Tuesday or I'll see you next for whatever. There became an order to everything. Yes, yes, and it's those weights and measures that the good Saturn, the good God Saturn is associated with.

Starting point is 00:58:35 The bad God Saturn is that it all comes asunder when he's pushed out of his position in celestial north and things go awry, and you no longer have that comforting, almost paradise-like existence on the earth as a result of Saturn's demise. And a lot of the weights and measures get lost. And so you have the emergence of what I call priesthoods and what the esoteric traditions call the Silver Age who are desperately trying to get back what those measures, those weights and measures the basis of civilization would be. They become corrupted very quickly because with the demise of Saturn, we hear the situation

Starting point is 00:59:22 in the earth where suddenly the earth is not producing its bounty on a sort of a continuing basis. You suddenly have seasons which introduces the idea of scarcity. And when you've got scarcity, there are people who want to monopolize scarcity and they want to monopolize the work that goes into producing harvests. And a lot of these priesthoods ultimately become a vehicle for creating control mechanisms that allow a idle elite to benefit off the work and the product of the greater majority of people.

Starting point is 01:00:00 And they couch that. They couch their authority in the idea that they are somehow inheritors of the knowledge of Saturn from a golden age. And that's where it all starts to really go bad. And in my book, the biggest thing that I want people to take away from it is that the emergence of central banking, the international debt slavery finance model that we have been laboring under in America since for a hundred years, over a hundred years now, but for you know quite really since the times of Romans it's put us head up every now and then but certainly in the last hundred years worldwide

Starting point is 01:00:39 that is probably the greatest tool of population control that has ever been devised and is also the one thing that is responsible for virtually all the wars, the famines, the pestilences that the Earth seems to periodically suffer. Because it's based on this idea of a of society operating on a debt that they can never actually repay and somebody always loses and that group of people who lose becomes larger and larger. And the people behind the system, many of them who don't really fully

Starting point is 01:01:21 even understand, I believe the full implications of mythology. When you look at it, they're actually all Saturn worshippers, they are not Satan worshippers, but Saturn worship. I do, I've been saying this. I've been saying this. Yep. This is exactly what I've been talking about. There's so much going on here, man.

Starting point is 01:01:43 It's the least you've ever caught in anyone. Yeah, I've been, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I th. I thattook, I thathe thathe thathe thathe thathe thathe th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've been thatheatheatheatheat. that. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. they're've ever caught anyone. Yeah I've been by the way I ask these guys I've been very quiet because I just want to hear what you have to say. So Saturn is in the sky through the electric universe electrical forces knock it off its its position which causes it to go away. Is the son that we have now always been there? Yeah, the sun's, it's not always been there in our skies. Ancient, the really ancient stuff, particularly if you look into Mesoamerican culture and so on.

Starting point is 01:02:21 They talk about a non-existent son, the sun, you know, the sun that we see today, and then a distant sun and finally a son that sort of replaces the original sun. You know, I give various quotes in the book from the Populvoo, the texts and so on that show that the experience particularly of some of the more ancient cultures on this planet is one where they emerge from a sort of a purple twilight, permanent twilight, to this world where there's a great glowing sun in the celestial north that sits immobile up there. There's a couple of other bodies there that we identify as Mars and Venus. They glow in spectacular forms that produce, you know, due to plasma.

Starting point is 01:03:10 These are, I show in the book how these are the origins of many of the symbols, the eight-pointed star, the scarred warrior, all these sort of factors, the rings of Saturn and so on become observable at this time because of Saturn's capture. And to them, the most important place to look in the heavens is not where the sun is, but where the, you know, our solar disc now, but to the celestial north. And, you know, for centuries it seems, that's where they they basically identified the origin of life as such or certainly the origin of the way the planet is you know after this purple twilight sort of dawn that they've gone through. And you know when that when that gets dislodged,

Starting point is 01:04:05 that is the most catastrophic event in all cultures. That's the doomsday archetype, and that's what's in our subconscious today, which can be exploited by symbols, is this sort of return of this, you know, almost humanity-ending doomsday event that took place at the end of the planet Saturn's reign in the celestial north. This isn't, this is amazing. So, you know, I get into things like Kazarians and stuff like that and how, you know, that's so much of this. What's going on in this world are, Kazarians who are, who are, uh, theirsians who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, the, the, the, the, the, the, know, that so much of this, what's going on in this world are Kazarians who are at the, you know, are when you go far enough back are Turkish and

Starting point is 01:04:55 this gets into, you know, what the Turks did to the Armenians and the formation of Israel and all these other, and the, you know, and then you get into, if we're talking about Saturn worship, which brings us to, you know, the Vatican and that the Vatican owns a giant chunk of the territory of Israel, nobody ever talks about that. Do you have any thoughts on Kazarians and stuff, or is that way out not really part of what you talk about? It's an area that I chose not to discuss too closely because it's such a highly controversial area.

Starting point is 01:05:36 It's definitely a part of the process. I also avoid to talk about masonry, you know, the Masonic orders, this sort of thing as well. I just wants to get as closely to the idea that much of symbolism, including, you know, your cube symbolism and Judaism, your black rock and Islam, the crescent and the star in Islam, all of these things, six-pointed stars, all the sort of symbolismism is directly explainable in terms of the cosmology of Saturn theory as to where it came from. Once you know that, you're not held by some quasi-religious authority to do what you're told by whichever group claims to have hidden knowledge about these things, you know, these mystery schools and so on. It opens up what has actually happened in the planet. And it also, I believe, it, the main thing is to allow people to be able to identify when somebody is trying to exert control over you. You know, where they're coming from,

Starting point is 01:06:46 what they're using as a control mechanism, you know, to go against you. And yes, Kazari, Kazari and Judaism, you know, Arthur Kursler was absolutely correct when he talked about the 13th tribe, these sort of ideas and, you know, the idea that Ashkenazi Judaism is is about as Abrahamic has, you know, Toltec, Mayan Indians or, you know, whatever, along those lines. It's really just a religious connection rather than the racial connection that they have.

Starting point is 01:07:23 But these are, this just joins the overall cacophony of malicious and malignant influences that seek control mechanisms. And to be perfectly honest, the only thing that is good about all this or stuff, is that there are so many conflicting internal disputes between people who would seek to control that quite a lot of the time they often end up imploding in a massive confusion under their own weight and I think we're going through a process of that at this time I totally agree I

Starting point is 01:07:58 totally agree so because I'm not getting into what these death cults do and you have some notes here so just for my own personal understanding so the so. th. so. so. so. so. so. so. so. so. so. I so so. I so so. So so. I so so. I so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So th. So th. So th. So thi thi to to to to to toooooooo. told to toe. too. to to to to to to to tho and you have some notes here. So just for my own personal understanding. So through the electric universe, Saturn gets knocked out of the center point of our sky. This brings in, this somewhat new sun, but this sun has, brings in, the sun brings in, this somewhat new sun. But this sun has, brings in seasons, and the seasons change the way we operate. It's no longer the golden era now. We see winters and falls and all that stuff It's a different energy at this point. Okay. Yeah. And then this group that wants that worship the the Saturn in the sky as the sun that we know is raw, but is actually Saturn worshiping, which is such a giant piece of the puzzle,

Starting point is 01:08:52 they want to bring that back. In what sense are they doing that? They want to bring it back in the sense of this authority. So, um, I'm going to use sort of biblical references here to so that people can get the sort of the gist of what I'm saying in terms of motivation. All right. The motivation of what I call Saturn worshipers is more to do with what the Bible says

Starting point is 01:09:20 happened after the fall of Adam and Eve, which is the sort of the creation myth of the in the biblical account. So let there be light, an element of creation, paradise is formed. Humans are created by the creative force, and then they sin, and they are rejected from paradise. And the key phrase I like to concentrate on is the idea that by the sweat of your brow will you make the earth yield its fruits. Now that typifies what the golden age was in the sense that you didn't have to sweat to make the earth yields as fruits. It just did it for you. It was permanent harvests. There was never any food scarcity. Now there was food scarcity and people have to work and join together in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to the the their their their to their to their to produce to produce to produce to produce to produce to produce to produce to produce to their their their their their their their their their their. their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. Will their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theuu.u.u. Wea. thea. theau. theau. theau. theau. the the the the earth, the earth, the earth food scarcity, and people have to work and join together in order to produce

Starting point is 01:10:09 what they needed to get through the winter periods and so on along those lines. Now in any human society, in any group of humans, you're going to get people who don't want to sweat to make the earth yield its fruits. And they will look for mechanisms by which they can control other people to do all the sweating for them. I get it now. I understand. Okay.

Starting point is 01:10:36 And so what they do is they hijack the idea that the Golden Age was a time of great, you know, it was a paradise for people to live at that time, but they hijack the idea in that they are the only ones who know the truth about it, and they exploit that mystery. All right, it's the old story of I've got a secret. If you join me in something, you can have that secret too. Yes. But I want you to do this. Yes. Such, right? And because we have those deep root of psychological scars, the rituals and

Starting point is 01:11:13 things like that ring true and we start bestowing on these people a kind of an authority. And it becomes established, it becomes a form of kingship, priest kings being the first type and the most obvious today is of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of th, th, th, of thiii. of of of of of of of th, of th, of thoe, of thoe. Of thiole. that thoing. that that thoing. that, of that, of that, of that, of that, of that, that, that, that, that, thioliolioliolioliolome. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi most obvious today of course is the Pope, you know, of that model. The other way that you can make people do what you want them to do is you can just force them. You can be a, you know, take the gangster approach and just say if you don't do this, I'll kill you. But there's a point in time when there's too many many many many many many trying to control that can rise up against you. And so you need a better mechanism to make lots and lots of people do what you want them to do.

Starting point is 01:11:53 And that's where the concept of weights and measures, which is the true concept of paradise in the Cetanian age, where they established justified weights and measures that people could trust. These groups started creating weights measures became the authorities of how those weights and measures are dispersed and dealt with, but they start to corrupt those weights and measures for their own benefit.

Starting point is 01:12:19 And that brings us down, you know, down through the line to the modern banking system that we have today. It's the greatest distortion of a, of the the of of of of of of of. of of of of of of the the of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the of the theathea. the theathea. their their theateateathea. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their their their thii. thi. thi. th. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they're they down through the line to the modern banking system that we have today. It's the greatest distortion of a, of the measure of work done, because that's what money is. It's a measure, and they've distorted that to their, for their own ability, by turning it into basically a debt and such, so, yeah. No, I totally understand what you're saying. So there's, it was, it was, it was, there's, the, the, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. there's, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It. th. th. It. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, to. It's, that. It's, that. It's, that. It's, th. It's, th. It's I totally understand what you're saying. So there was, it was, there's abundance, everybody's working together, making stuff. Saturn gets knocked out, I'm just going to, so people like me can understand. So, Saturn gets knocked out of it, suddenly there's seasons. The abundance changes because these people start to exert control on the mechanism of creating farming

Starting point is 01:13:07 and food and all that stuff. They see it, they see an opportunity to seize control so they create this system to corrupt it and then control it. A great example of what we're talking about right now is what's going on with crypto, right? So what are they saying right now? And crypto could be New World Order, right? It's possible, but there's a lot of people creating crypto left and right, people are making over.

Starting point is 01:13:32 What's going on? These same people are like, we have to regulate crypto. We have to regulate. It's the only way we're going to save it, which then becomes control over crypto. Well, I mean, you know, it gets crazy when China fucking bans it. Yeah, that is great, but that's more control, right? And that, you know, it's like this notion that it's only one group of people trying to do it.

Starting point is 01:13:55 He said, it's right, there's a lot of people trying to do it. And the blessings are, they're all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all battling. other that it ends up like blowing up in their face but now I understand what you're saying. Do you guys understand it? I totally get this man. I totally get this and we get it through all man this excellent episode and so we have this group of people they create this banking system that allowed they want to they want monopoly and they want centralization. All right, so the big, the big con job that most people don't understand is that when they talk about capitalism, there are two types of capitalism, one that operates off free enterprise

Starting point is 01:14:35 and the other one that operates off the idea of monopoly. And that particular form of capitalism, you know, communism is the glove that fits their hand because communism is the glove that fits their hand because communism is state monopoly and corporate monopoly is monopolistic capitalism. And effectively it only works when you have a centralized body calling the shots and deciding what's right and what's wrong. And if I go back to the biblical concept of what the Silver Age priests collected, if you know the story of Adam and Eve treated like a mythology and so on, but there's a part that's often misunderstood when it comes to the moment of what people call original sin. And that is that the sin of Adam and Eve is just entirely linked to the idea that somehow by eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, um, they, they, they, that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, their. tree, tree, tree. tree. their. their. their. their. their. their. is, their. is, their. is, their is, their is, their is, their is, their is, their is, their is their is their is tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, tree, t linked to the idea that somehow by eating off the

Starting point is 01:15:27 tree of knowledge of good and evil, they knew the difference between right and wrong. That's actually not, in my opinion, what the Bible is actually saying there. They knew what was right and wrong before they ate off the tree. The key aspect there that is in what I would call the Melchizedean priesthood of Silver Age, the first pure part of it all, is that the sin there is that Eve decides, often it's quoted as saying, when I ate the tree I was told by the serpent, by the devil, some people believe along those lines, that I would be as a God, and they stop at that point thinking that Eve wanted to be like God..... the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the first. the first. The first. The first. the first. The first the first. the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first, the first, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the those lines that I would be as a God and they stop at that point thinking that Eve wanted to be like God. She qualifies that by saying knowing right from wrong okay but you see that makes it sound

Starting point is 01:16:15 like as if she had stumbled on the idea gee I know what's right and I know what's wrong. What's actually implied by that is that being made in the image of God meaning the intellectual capacity of God, this human being decided they had the capacity to go one step further and define what is right and wrong. And that power to define what is right and wrong is held primarily in the ability to define our weights and measures that form our laws. So Eve basically instead of adhering to what the Bible would call divine revelation of God's eternal law, you know as such, Eve takes the root that the Saturn death cult culture is based on,

Starting point is 01:17:07 which is I can aspire to be the person who decides what's right and wrong over and above God, or as God, depending on how it is. And this is why the new Golden Age esoteric idea is fundamentally linked to that idea. That's the central idea that Eve's sin of being able to decide what's right and wrong like a god that powers the thinking of the Saturn death cult culture I talk about. Everything else they're involved in is simply the mechanism for achieving that objective. And their new Golden Age is the, is basically typified by the idea that they just get to decide what's right and wrong for everybody.

Starting point is 01:17:51 We see that in the world today going into acceleration. It's, 100%. You know, and then we get into like the Royals and all these groups and you know the connections between a lot of these religions and the Royals and who, you know, so we see, and I talk about us all the time on the show, we see introductions of holy books into three of the major religions, right? There's a couple people talk about Hinduism as well, but you know we see the Bible written by the people who, uh, who, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the connections, the the connections, the connections, the connections, the connections, the connections, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the the, the, the of, the of thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean thean the an the an the an the an the an the of thi thi the major religions, right? There's a couple people talk about Hinduism as well, but you know, we see the Bible written by the people who worship raw. Now we're talking about Saturn worship and what stories got in there,

Starting point is 01:18:35 what stories did not get in there. Then we see that basically, from people we talked about on the show, a new Quran being written and how Mohammed is actually related to Queen Elizabeth and then we get into we got two books we got the Torah then suddenly we got the telmut okay and this is now what they call a wickah leaks of now a Wikipedia of religion where everybody can jump in and kind of give their say and what they believe and there's some really dark shit in there, but I think there's purposely put dark shit in there to get us all the fight with it. It all starts to make sense right now. Now when we take a look at what's going on in this world, a redefining of basic science,

Starting point is 01:19:22 redefinition of basic understandings, the changing of how we believe we should raise our children and all this stuff, totally makes sense when you start thinking about what you just said about Adam and Eve and what is the original sin, and which is that man believes he can decide what is right and wrong. Now, when we take a look at religion and like, you know, what everybody always says is, you know, the greatest trick the devil ever committed was the convention we didn't exist, right? But then you start looking at all these other religions and all these other philosophies

Starting point is 01:20:00 and they'll be like, oh, that's the devil doing that and stuff like that. And then there's been the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. the. the. that's is that's thee. that's that's that's that's that's theethat. And then there's been so much rewriting of all this, all this ancient scripture. How do we know what's real? How do we know what's not real? Oh, okay. I, personally, to answer a question like that, um, It really just comes down to applying yourself to what's available open source in terms of the records, getting certain keys. You know, when I wrote SADN Death Coults, it wasn't an explanation.

Starting point is 01:20:39 It was a, it was meant to be a guide in a direction for people to then follow themselves and see what they came up with and hopefully lead into many of the things I think you've probably already encountered because the difference in my books to most electric universe-based books is that I blend in the socioeconomic and the socio-political elements of human history into, you know, the, being a consequence of what happened as a result of these planetary, and the, and to, and to, and to, and to, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, thly, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, they, they, thi, the, the, thi, the, thi, the, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,, you know, the, being a consequence of what happened as a result of these planetary, interplanetary cataclysms. And, you know, it's, what I, prediction, I guess, in the scientific method, the greatest form of knowing what is right and wrong is when you make what's called a scientific prediction. It's not prophecy or anything along those

Starting point is 01:21:30 lines. And so what you need to see is what, you know, what fulfills as you observe events taking place, what fulfills certain theories, certain hypotheses. And so you can do that in the scientific way, you can do that in the political, socio-way. And so really, you've just got to, you've got to do your research into the ancient records, which I believe were all a warning. Do that with the key that I hope people will take from my book, Sad and Death Colt, and

Starting point is 01:22:07 then apply it to what you see in the news and the fake news and everything that else is coming out and basically apply common sense. It's really the only way. None of us are ever going to know what's really going on behind the scenes in terms of that and it becomes very frustrating. Believe you me, it's a very frustrating time to live in. But my own understanding at this point in time is that we're living through a change that takes place very few times in history where society is going to radically change in terms of who controls us, who controls society itself, and I think it's going to change for the better whereby there's a complete decentralization and also a in terms of that

Starting point is 01:23:00 decentralization, a series of agreements between people, contracts between people that are based on accurate and weights and measures. In other words, we're no longer gonna have fake money, because that's effectively what the Federal Reserve has put out and so on. We're going to have money in terms of contractual arrangements between individuals and not controlled by third-party we call government or or the central bank.

Starting point is 01:23:30 Damn, get your crypto. Get your crypto. Get your crypto. Crypto is one of those elements there is shaking the foundations, no doubt about it. Yeah, and they're trying to regulate which is, I mean it just, you see these ancient, ancient, the tru. Cripto is their thi. thi. thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thripe, thript, thri, we thrip, thripe, we th, we th, we thi, we thi, we thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thripe, we thripe, we thripe, we thripe, we thripe, we thripe, we thripe, we thripe, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that is shaking the foundations, no doubt about it. Yeah, and they're trying to regulate, which is, I mean, it's just you see these ancient, ancient people trying to control something when they barely even understand emails. What you also see is them, and I think we have to be real careful about this, creating their own currencies, and you really got to investigate who's behind them. You know what I mean? Because I think you're seeing a lot, a lot of these new ones now. I think that's what XRP is going to be. So you're talking about like a like a Facebook, a Facebook coin? It's basically yeah, uh, the bankers coin.

Starting point is 01:24:18 Just not as obvious as that. Yeah, I totally agree with that, dude. I totally agree. Avoid anything centrally, anything that is centrally controlled is, you know, the keys there. I think one of, you know, what, what, um, what you mentioned before in terms of control, there's a, the Silver Age priesthoods knew the difference between two types of law tells you what you can't do and most people rebelligates that. But the law that they seem to go for, which is the dangerous one, is the law that defines what you're allowed to do and only do. And a centralized form of control, whether it is through money or a judicial system or anything along those lines that controls from a central basis is effectively giving you

Starting point is 01:25:06 permission to only do certain things. Anything else is not open to you. You have to do what they allow you to do. This is why this world that we live in at the moment is overrun by a thing I call bureaucratic licensing. Basically you can't exist in this world without getting a license from a central authority to do so. The ancient silver priesthood concept is that the only permission you need to do something is the permission of the other person you're interacting with. You come to an agreement, which is a covenant, and if you both agree and you both operate off of weights and measures that are,

Starting point is 01:25:46 that everybody can define and understand, it's really just between you and the other person. That's why crypto is so great. It allows us to operate between each other as individuals without a third party looking over our shoulder and telling us, no, you can't do that. Or no, this is the only thing you're allowed to do. So to me, that is that is that is that is that is th th that is th th that is that is that is the basic thi is thi is that is that is that is the basic is the basic is thi thi thi thi thi that is that is the that is that is that is that is the basic the basic the basic that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that you can't do that or no this is the only thing you're allowed to do. So to me that is the basic difference. The original concept of law tells you what you can't do and opens up everything else that you're allowed to do as long as you don't break the can't do laws and man-made law tells you no this is the only thing you're allowed to ever do.

Starting point is 01:26:25 I love it. And you know, you're totally right about the central reserve, central banks. I mean, we're seeing this happen in real time. The US government is using the central banks to, you know, basically fund these actors that we call billionaires. And I think they're just theater actors. And, I mean, we have, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thrying, I'm thrying, I'm thrying, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm try, I'm taires and I think they're just theater actors and I mean we have Amazon I mean I'm trying to buy a hard cut a hard or soft cover version of your book I've been trying to buy as I'm listening I can only get on Kindle I can't only on Kindle I can't only on Kindle

Starting point is 01:26:59 sorry did you do that on purpose? Yeah because the book is packed full of color illustrations and if I was offer a hardcover book of it, it would be in the $70 region if it were to include the kind of color illustrations that I think I needed for people to understand the symbology of Saturn theory and how it relates to mythology. I like owning physical stuff, but I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna be waiting for them to make it a their policies down. You know like comics do it now where they they'll press like a hundred like a hundred copies of their thing because some people want to buy vinyl. Put out a $70 book. If somebody wants to pay $70. I would have bought a th a th a $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $100.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. I that's I that's I that's I that's I that's I that's I I I thi I thi I I I I thi I I I I thi I I I I I I I thi I I I I I I I thi I I thi I I thi I thi I thi I thi I that's I that's I that's I th. I thi. I thi. I thi thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi only thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiolioliioliiolioliii. I wish I'm thi. I th people want to buy vinyl. Put out a $70 book. If somebody wants to pay $70 for, I would have bought it for $70.

Starting point is 01:27:47 I think that's what Bill Byrd did. You just ran out of copies. I just bought $160 book because I don't think they want me to have it. So I bought it. Hey, yeah, I'm gonna read. Because I love having stuff. shelf when I have a shelf of books I've read and I plan on reading or haven't read. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people have asked me about that and you know the closest I can you know Amazon will the sort of the way I go through the publishing system that they have you know it's about 70 dollars is the absolute

Starting point is 01:28:21 minimum that I can put that book out for as a you know in in hard copy. Let people buy if they want buy it. that's that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the. I that book out for as a, you know, in hard copy. Let people buy it if they want to buy it. That's up to you. I think you can get people to buy because I like having something physical to hold. I'm old school like that. But going back to Amazon, you know, it is of my belief, Amazon is the US government. It is, it is, we have fascism and fascism sounds like the death cult work where it's not, we're, I don't think we'll ever see in the United States a person running everything.

Starting point is 01:28:52 We barely, I mean, the president has like a, a one percent of the power that presidents use that back in the day. He's no longer that guy anymore, you know, a guy in Tucker, same as kings and queens of England. Yeah, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their. T they're all. T they're all. Yeah, their their their their their their their their their th. thi. Yeah, thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. their. thi. their. their. their. their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I. I. I. It's. I's. I's. I's their. I's their. I's their. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's not, th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. I's not. I th. I th. It's day. He's no longer that guy anymore, you know, a guy in Tucker Carlson. Same as Kings and Queens of England. Yeah, they're all just figureheads. It's all theater. It's all theater. But Amazon, and to me, just like Facebook, are all extensions of the US government, which are just ran by people who control corporations. corporations are now the new fascism, corporateocracy and we're seeing it happen right now and they're controlling the means of business and living and everything that you're doing right now. Now they're trying to control your ability to raise your children. It's happening in real time.

Starting point is 01:29:46 If this is true what I just saw and I have to do some research, Gavin Newsom just made it so 12-year-old girls could get abortions without talking to their parents. My God. Death cult shit. Yeah, Molok worship. There you go, man. But I mean, you didn't think Amazon was like, controls the whole United States? Like the warehouses, the people worked there for days and there's nowhere else to work. And if you quit, where else you're going to go?

Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah. I think Amazon is the new company store. You know, you used to have these companies that were so big. The people that the people the people the companies the companies the companies the companies the companies the companies th th th th th th th th th th th th th. T th. T thi thi their companies thi. T their companies their companies their companies their companies their companies th. These companies thi. These companies thoes th. These companies th. These companies th. These companies their companies their companies their companies their companies their companies their companies th. These companies companies th. These companies companies companies th. These companies th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. These companies the companies th. These companies the companies the companies the companies the companies the companies the companies the. These companies the. These companies the. These companies the. These companies the. the. the. the. their companies companies the companies the companies thethey, that the people who worked in like the mines or on the railroad, they would get paid in company script though, but they would get paid in company money and they could only use it at the company store and I think that's what Amazon has become, you know, our money is all just going to go to Amazon and it's going to be the only choice. We're at blame too. How nice is it if you something shows up at your house the next day? I agree. I'm trying to buy it on anything but Amazon. Good luck. Good luck with that.

Starting point is 01:30:50 No, it's not your fault, man. I just want to support you. I love getting these books. I love reading those books. I'll do it on Kind of, it kind of funny that if you cancel credit card your your credit goes down and if you don't own a house and you have a mortgage you can't you can't get up to that super elite? Well because that's what I think about the credit score here like the more you the more

Starting point is 01:31:20 you owe the better your credit score is in Mexico it's the whole opposite the less you owe the more your credit is like if you don't have a card. Johnny, is that true? I think that like if you pay off all your credit cards, you tend to have a higher credit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but they want you to have, to the balance to be low. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that to me is crazy. The more you, the more you technically you owe, the more than one and let you roll. Like, oh, you owe this much?

Starting point is 01:31:47 You want some more? Yeah. Like, they want you to fuck up and not be able to, oh, and then of the COVID stuff, but like where this fits into what we're seeing right now. I mean, Australia right now came out that seven people died of COVID. Six of them were fully vaccinated. And you see what's going on over there. Well, I mean, I have a down under background and it's tragic what I'm seeing happen in New

Starting point is 01:32:26 Zealand and Australia. I'd never concede that they would be the leading contenders for outright fascist corporatism and communist statism, you know, but that's the way they are going. When I wrote Saturn Death Colt, it is first draft, now getting on 10 years ago, the initial sort of idea there that I hinted that, and it's still there in the current edition and so on, is that there's this idea of history as a ritual. And I explain in the book through various means that as part of this esoteric push to create a new golden age they have to create a

Starting point is 01:33:13 new doomsday event and that doomsday event is is effectively a population call that will reduce the population to much more manageable stage. So I've been arguing along, and I'm not the first, as many people, you know, at various levels in what you would call alternative research, looking into the occult and the esoteric, have been aware that we've been marching towards what effectively is a giant culling ritual, a giant human sacrifice that would launch this new golden age of this transhumanist golden age, this rewilded earth that an elite few can actually own.

Starting point is 01:34:00 And so when I see what's going on in the world today, I see a kind of crazily accelerated, almost out of control speed wobbles type effects going on where they're trying to catch up to launch this doomsday event. And what I'm picking up from people I listen to stuff that I've researched and such, there seems to be, what we're actually witnessing is a conflict between various people within the know of how they want to reestablish the earth in what they call this great reset. There is a conflict between those who want to do it now and damn the consequences and those who want to somehow organize to take the wealth

Starting point is 01:34:45 that they have accumulated for themselves into the new reset that they're talking about. And that conflict seems to be actually the basis for why the whole thing is probably going to fail spectacularly, and they're all going to lose out. As far as I'm concerned, that's my own sort of thinking along those lines. But we've been arguing for an event, people like myself, we've been arguing for an event, a worldwide culling event that would be launched. And it's not as if they haven't been telling us that they plan to do it. That's an aspect of the esoteric and the occult is quite often, it's a distortion of a biblical law that says you must tell the enemy what you'll do to them,

Starting point is 01:35:28 to if they don't desist from doing what you think is a threat. They see us in humanity as a threat in terms of our overpopulation, too many useless eaters. So they're effectively telling us, stop breeding or else we'll call you. And, you know, this is the, this has been going, you can, you can see this right back to the Georgia guidestones and so. Really the, the eugenics movement is probably the beginning of all this. And in San Deaqult I discussed Malthus, Thomas Malthus's Malthus' Malthus Thomas Malthus' Malthus' ideas and such. And you know, this is what they brought us to.

Starting point is 01:36:13 What I would always let people know, though, is that the people who are running things behind the scenes for what I call a Satton Death Cult culture, they are substandard. They are not your great, great, great grandparents' villains from the past. The Rothschilds of today are not your Nathan, oh, Anton Myan, Ross-Cilts. I'm with you on that. Yeah, they just don't have, they don't have the, you know, these were pretty formidable people, the original Rothschilds. And, you know, they were pretty formidable people, the original Rothschilds. And you know, they were of a class way above what we see today posing as our elites.

Starting point is 01:36:55 And I think that's part of the reason that we're seeing, you know, it's become a machine that's too big. Too many agendas get pushed. They can't, they can't pull back from it and move laterally. They're totally confined by their linear thinking towards this idea of reverting the world back to some kind of paradise, wild paradise that they get to control. You know what, man, I totally agree with you.

Starting point is 01:37:24 You know, I'm so funny. It's like, the elites keep wanting to control. You know what, man, I totally agree with you. I, you know, it's so funny. It's like, the elites keep wanting to make the elites, but all I know about the elites is that their kids are all retards. And sorry for using that word, but that's my opinion. And their kids are all idiots. And they can't run anything. So we've seen giant, you thian, you thian, thian, thian, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they get they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they get they can't get to they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they can't they can't they can't they can't to to to to to to to to to to to to to 't run anything. So we've seen giant, you know, families that are like these, these dynasties just fade away because their kids are so dumb that they can't. Yeah, look at Biden Hunter.

Starting point is 01:37:54 Yeah, I mean, great example. A Hunter, yeah, what do you go? That sounds like a new TV show. We're gonna track down all the Bidenons and they're going to die. Biden Hunter this week, I discourage her. But he's the worst. We're by dog a bounty hunter. But yeah, I mean, like, I totally see everything you're saying.

Starting point is 01:38:15 And I do agree with you. I also think that there are rules to that, that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm tho, I'm thi, I'm their their their their thi, I thi, I thi, is we live on, it's very special, and there rules to it, and you kind of brought it up, scarcity, abundance. And you can live in scarcity for a while, but it's not going to last forever, and people like, you know, Klaus Schwab and all of his buddies, they're not bigger than the universe, in my humble opinion. They are just specks of dirt to the universe. And they they they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they they can they they can they can they can they can they can they can't the universe and they can't they can't change the laws of the universe in my humble opinion and yeah. It comes down largely to what to defining what is actually sat in worship and how does it differ from the major religions? And in terms of, you know, what offers people who go down that route,

Starting point is 01:39:10 that sun worshiping, Saturn worshipping route. The book Game of Saturn by Peter Mark Adams, very, very good book where a guy who's a genuine scholar in this kind of stuff, he gave us the connecting evidence that actual Saturn worship has existed in elite families since the ancient times where it's well established. We know that they engaged in human baby sacrifice, cannibalism, the whole works in order to worship various permutations of Saturn, Moloch, Balamon, all these different types of gods.

Starting point is 01:39:52 But there was, you know, how do we connect that kind of worship to the modern world? Well, in the near modern world, the Renaissance, Peter Mark Adams very succinctly demonstrates that a form of mollock worship was illustrated in a tarot deck owned by the Esty family, still a very powerful family in European elite circles. And this this tarot deck was part of what he called attack magic that they engaged in against their rivals and so on because the infighting amongst these people is profound. They just keep them, you know, within themselves

Starting point is 01:40:31 most of the time and it only really comes to our notice when we get, you know, taken into world wars and so on along those lines and propagandized that way. but the infighting is very profound amongst them and the Esty family had this tarot deck that shows they're engaged in Molok worship. Now how is that different from Satan worship? And I think this is a key factor in understanding the motivation of these people. And that is quite simply that the God Moloch and the Christian god or the Judaic god, the the god Moloch, which is a version of sat, Moloa, the th of of of of of of of of of of of of of of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of sation of satii. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. A the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, theiric God or even the Islamic God differ in two different ways. The god Moloch, which is a version of Saturn, is a capricious God that can be influenced, all right, depending on how you go about it. The major religions have a god that is righteous. In other words, he puts out a bunch of laws and then he creates a judgment at some point in time to define those who have a good and who are bad. And so in the in the major Abrahamic religions we have a thing called judgment day, but in Saturn worship we have a thing called

Starting point is 01:41:38 Doomsday. Now judgment day is basically a major difference from Saturn in that you already have a bunch of laws and that tell you right from wrong and it's your job to spend your life according to how you believe things and so on and how you conduct yourself to present yourself on judgment day. Now that's the basic idea of the Abrahamic religions. Saddam worship is very, very different. You have a God that is capricious, a God who can be very creative, creates the world, does wonderful things, and on a dime can turn and destroy it all. And the objective of these people in Saturn worship is to make sure that they influence

Starting point is 01:42:19 that capricious God, that when he does move, he somehow makes exception for you if you're doing the right rituals, the right activities and such. And he makes sure that you don't get wiped out with the rest of the planet when that day comes. And all right, so ritual and sacrifice, all this sort of stuff is born into the idea of being influential. You want to, rather than being righteous and sort of, rather than seeking justice through law, you're seeking influence over the God. And certain families have been identified as having the most influence. So the best way to really get involved in all this if you are of that kind of thinking

Starting point is 01:43:06 and believe that there is this capricious cycle of events where people, where every now and then the universe just wipes you out. The rituals are a form of belief in reincarnation where if you do things right, you can reincarnate yourself into one of these families. If you're already part of that family, then you just reincarnate yourself back into the same family and so on. All right. And this is a very, very powerful motivation factor. For many years, you know, people ask why would people do this? Who could get involved with a club, a group of people which ultimately ends up in

Starting point is 01:43:47 debauching some baby on an altar or whatever it is that, you know, that they do? Well, if you start to adhere to reincarnationist rather than a resurrectionist concepts, so resurrection goes towards the judgment day idea. But reincarnation allows you to, um, a reincarnation allows you to, um, um, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, the the the the the tuuuauu, tubeau, tubluuuuuuuauuuucoa, tube, tube, tube, tube, thu, the their, their, their, resurrection goes towards the judgment day idea. But reincarnation allows you to manipulate the force of destruction in such a way that you come out, you know, on the right side of the overall destruction as one of the remaining elite. And it was originally, I always thought, used as a form of blackmail, and it can be used that way. It's a, you know, you get people in, you know, there's the ritual start with extreme sex acts, they move up to pedophilia, extreme pedophilia, murder, and so on, you know,

Starting point is 01:44:39 up the list depending on how far you want to go. And wonderful way of making sure that you stay within the club because the vast majority of us, you know, don't condone that kind of stuff and would actually react if we found direct evidence of people. So it becomes wonderful compromise, you know, material of compromise to have over these kinds of people. But why would they do that? They would do it because they think that somehow they're going to have over these kinds of people. But why would they do that? They would do it because they think that somehow they're going to reincarnate in another life into a better position where they looked upon favorably by this universal force of creation and destruction. Troy, Troy, you're saying that as though you doubt that that's actually what it going to happen.

Starting point is 01:45:25 Am I right there that you don't think they were reincarnate? No I'm not a reincarnationist. I'm a resurrectionist in terms of my own personal what you might call religious beliefs. I follow what I like to call the Melchizedean priesthood thinking, you know, the original thinking behind Old Testament scripture and so on. So my faith, if you can call it that, you know, where people ask and that is in the resurrectionist idea and the idea that there is a universal righteousness out there that will, the way people like me call it is a restitution of all things are rebalancing so to speak where the universe is

Starting point is 01:46:13 brought back into harmony with God and as a result of the chaos that we've gone through it teaches us the futility of of you know basically deciding right and wrong based on your own whims and, and, uh, and, and, uh, and, and, and, and the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the, the the, us the futility of basically deciding right and wrong based on your own whims and thinking in the search for a greater authority for those rights and wrong. So I would call myself a Christian in that sense. I don't belong to any major religion, any major Christian denomination and such, but for me, it's resurrection, if I was to go on the spiritual side of things, that is what I would hope for.

Starting point is 01:46:54 Reincarnation, I don't see how that happens. And it's just, I just find it tragic that it has resulted in some of the worst rituals that you can possibly conceive. So some of the worst examples of victims have been created by people who have sought reincarnation to better their reincarnation. And, you know, so, yeah, I just, I don't go along those lines. This feels like a Westworld.

Starting point is 01:47:31 You know how you can go into Westworld and do actions and act like they're not part of your life and you can come out and you can kill someone and then you act like you didn't kill no one because you're not part of your life. Yeah, it's how it just sounds like they can't. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I just thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I don't th. I I I I don't th. I I I I I I don't th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I don't I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I don't. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I don't just just just I don't th. I don't th. I don't just, I don't th. I don't just don't th. I don't know, I don't know, I just don't know, I just don't know, I just don't know, I just don't know, I just, I don't know, I don't, like can reincarnate it. Yeah, I mean like if you, but I also think there's a little bit of sigil magic going on, stigial magic, whatever it's called, where they're telling, like Q and all that stuff, that was all being told that you know, hey this is what we're doing when nothing gets done, it's your fault, not ours. And there is something to that man we all waited for you know Trump to save us and all that stuff when that was never part of the plan it's very interesting stuff you answered a lot of questions for me and man you were wonderful you were really what you just said takes you back to symbols you know

Starting point is 01:48:18 the power of symbols yeah yeah I mean 100% it's it's so much of this stuff and like when you broke down that they want to be reincarnated into these families just really resonated with me on why they do this why they act like this. Troy you're you're a bad man dude thank you so much dude one of the best shows we've done I mean and we've been killing it lately. This was a long one. Well, how long ago? The hour was 90 minutes, 95 minutes.

Starting point is 01:48:49 Damn. Man, great. I mean, I could talk to you forever about this. I mean, this is probably my favorite subject. You just bought a book. I would like to buy the book. I'm going to get the book. I'm going to get the Kindle of it, but I do think you should make a hard cover for those who want to spend the money to get it. It's been a while since I looked at that idea, so I've no, I'll take you advice and explore

Starting point is 01:49:11 it. Well, Troy, might have said a word that you didn't like, so my apologies about that, but I flung first grade, so I pretty much I'm an idiot, so I own that word. Troy, where can they find you? Where can our listeners find you? Well, I run a website, sad and death colt.com, which is basically a website version of the book. The book is available on Kindle at Amazon, the Saturn death cult. It gives you a lot more material that's on the website. And I also have a second book called the,

Starting point is 01:49:47 it's kind of like a prequel. It's the purple dawn of creation. It's a speculative look into how a space-faring human race living on the moon of Ganymede might have viewed the arrival of the planet Saturn as it was being captured by the solar system and what they may have actually seen on Earth before Saturn was captured. Again, speculative but it introduces various concepts of what happened in the solar system before the arrival of Saturn.

Starting point is 01:50:19 So that might be worth checking out for some people. So that's also available on Amazon. This is an insane topic, man. I mean I'm just looking over your website. I mean there's can you go to Saturn DeathCult.com. There's a lot of stuff going. Do you have any thoughts on Tataria? Tataria? Okay, yeah, you should look into Tataria. It's very, very interesting. Man, there's some very It's very, very interesting. Man, there's some very interesting stuff on your website and there's some dark arts that goes on in the world.

Starting point is 01:50:55 And now, you know, you put together pieces to understand why they would do some of this stuff. So, man, I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much. And Troy, man, any any time you want to to understand, uh, to try to you, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to to be to to to to to to to to to be they. they. they. they. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the try try try try try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to to to to to to t some of this stuff. So, yeah. Man, I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much. And Troy, man, anytime you want to come back, please let us know you have an open door. And we would love to have you on. Guys, please. Thank you very much. No.

Starting point is 01:51:18 Our pleasure. He talks about God's on what I think the real businesses are and everything else is a layer to that that they're willing to destroy to protect those. I mean like, love of money. Right, well, and that is like, that is real money. That's trillions of dollars. A business that's a billion dollars. That's great. Especially when you're just, that is like, that is like, that is like, that is like, their their their that is like, their their th. th. their th. th. their th. th. their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the real, the real, the real. the real. the real the real the real. the real. the real. the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real, the real. the real. the real. the real. the real, the real. the real. th. the real. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the thiillions of dollars a business that's a billion dollars out that's great especially when you're just printing money was a billion dollar business still that what I mean well like the left like oh leave the borders open I'm like if you like borders open then you're okay with sex

Starting point is 01:51:54 trafficking well that's exactly what happens when you leave the board's open look what they did to Europe man they completely destabilized Europe by flooding in all these illegal, I mean not illegals but taking in everybody from the Middle East. Yeah. And it's crazy dude and it's like I don't blame those people for coming because we're bombing the crap out of their country, out of the region and I think it's not even about oil oil or terrorism. It's about ancient knowledge that's there that people don't want you to know about. All the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museums the museum they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th tho tho th. tho tho tho tho thoo tho tho th. tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I. I'm tho-I. I'm tho-I. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're tho. the. te. te. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. they're thean. theeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. they're they're tism. It's about ancient knowledge that's there that people don't want you to know about. All the museums that they took down. Yeah, all right, Troy, thank you so much for coming on and I hope the swarm finds you, shows you love because you are great and I could talk to you forever. Definitely making a

Starting point is 01:52:39 pleasure in mine. Thank you so much. You're definitely making a run for the mountain. I've got to say, guys like me need guys like you. Dude, the work that you're doing. I feel like you and I are going to be like in a Patrick Swayzee movie where we're just holding each other, swinging it around each other's eyes. That's the kind of love you and I have for each other. All right. You're welcome any time. I hope hope our listeners shower you with love, brother. I think about making that book and I will get your Kindle. And real quick, you had mentioned a guy who proved the Saturn worshipping stuff. You just mentioned a little while ago. He basically had made proof.

Starting point is 01:53:18 He, he, Peter Mark Adams, a book called the Saturn game. He, he provides the link in Mollock worship between the ancient cultures and today's cultures and so on. There's a direct connection there that that's what they're really about. All right, brother, you, my friend, R.G. Thank you so much for coming on. I love you all very much. Couple tickets left to the 500. Oh yeah, will, will Troy be try try try try try try toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy try toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy to to to to to to to to to to be named to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. today. the. the. today. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to left to the 500. Will, oh yeah, will, will Troy be named on the

Starting point is 01:53:46 Mount Everest of guests? He's in the running. Or the Mount Rushmore. Either one. Whichever one that is, is he in the running? He is. Will he be named? Tune in. You gotta go there live. Only a couple, only about 50 tickets left to the first show and uh... are we doing a swarmy's there was that you're told me they're gonna vote the fans are voting for the we're all gonna vote is there gonna be a swarmy's so there might be a swarmy's live on stage oh wow yeah I love you guys thank you so much I hope you enjoy the show because I know I did take care Keep home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 01:54:32 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Tim foil hack.

Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #494: The Electrical Universe and the Saturn Death Cult with Troy McLachlan

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