Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #510: Conscious Resistance, Opting Out of the Technocratic State and Finding The Finders with Derrick Broze

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hattie. What the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:31 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Good morning, Swarm and welcome to Tip Volhat. You know I am, you know I'm here to do? I'm here too. Raw.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Thank you. That was your best one yet, dude. I'm super excited for you, man. After how many episodes have you been on? How many episodes? .. been on? How many episodes? Like about 400. 400 you finally got it. Congratulations, dude. That is an awesome moment. Mark that down. What is this? 510? 510? It all came together. November 17th, 2021. This guy gets it. The guy who gets it, the gnomes the love of Xavier Guerrero.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, and you're on, you're the only one on YouTube now. Congratulations, dude. I thought you had to be able to suck your own dick to you. We believe in you. Yeah, yeah, you're really flexible person. No, you're way more flexible than me. I don't, I don't, no, no, no, I don't think so. I was doing yoga today. It's like beginning yoga today. It's like beginning yoga. So I'm, I'm not being involved in anything where you're making progress, you know, and you can feel momentum in your life. It's a thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I thin, thin, thi, thin, thi, thin, thi, thin, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. thi, thin, thi, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, th. No, no, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th best. Yeah, dude, I think that's a big part of life is being involved in anything where you're making progress, you know, and you can feel momentum in your life. That's really important. Just a little bit, just a little bit more.

Starting point is 00:02:32 All right, so that's about, guys, a lot of things are going on here in the world of Tim Full Hat. You know, we're getting ready. We had a th a th a th a th a th, a th, a thi thi thi thi thi thi to start thi thi to start thi to start thi thi thi, I thi, I thi, I think think, I think, I think, I thi, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin ready. Had a big talk with Eddie Bravo. We're gonna start doing some more live shows on the road. And we're thinking about doing some paper views. That will be big events. Going big game hunting with big name people. Get them up on stage, see what we can make happen. So that's the goal in life.

Starting point is 00:03:00 So we're gonna get that going. If you want to see me live, San Diego, the San, the San, the San, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to get that going. If you want to see me live, San Diego, the San Diego show, tomorrow night, or I don't know when this is coming out. I think it's going to be, what, Friday I get this? What am I going to get this? You'll probably get it today because I'm just going to have to sit down the computer for six hours and try to fix. We we we we we we we we have we have we have, we have, we have, we havees. He's on Rock Finn. Great guess. Great guess. And we said all the buzzwords, China, FBI, Pizza Gate. And it was just at the end, by the way, don't tune out.

Starting point is 00:03:35 But it was just at the very end. At the very end, it gets a little choppy, but we'll have them back. It's a great podcast. It's a lot of fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. the the the. lot of fun. He's really amazing, so enjoy the show. So I don't know when it's coming out, but my Thursday show in San Diego sold out. Guess what? We just added, I think as of right now, another show, which will be at the American Comedy Company,

Starting point is 00:04:00 and it's December 2nd through the fourth. So come get weird, hang out, and what I'm trying to do, if everything works out, I'm trying to make it an all-cash daddy show. I'm going to see if Howie and Chris Neff will come out and do it and we'll all have a great time. So that is December 2nd through the 4th that is available at Sam Trioli dot com, okay? And then December 10th or the 11th, I'm at my final show of law of the year that is going to be at the side splitters in Tampa. So I'm doing all my favorite cities at the end of the year.

Starting point is 00:04:41 We just did Salt Lake City. Then I'm doing San Diego. I've did Miami, Salt Lake, San Diegothen I'm doing San Diego. I did Miami Salt Lake, San Diego and Tampa. Those are literally my favorite cities to do stand-up. So I'm very excited about that. Phoenix is in there, New York's in there. Okay, there's a lot of places, Vegas too. So anyway, so that's great. New t-shirts up. the t-shirt up. It is flying off the shelves. The anti-vacc-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s, that's-s, that's-s, that's-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, th-s, thi-s, th-s, th-s, thi-s, th-s, th-s, th-s-s. th-s. th-s-s. th-s. t-s. I-s. t-s. I's-s. t-s. t-s. t-s.a-s. th- shelves. It's flying off the shelves. The anti-vaccine vaccine club is flying off the shelf. Is this our first like double-sided t-shirt?

Starting point is 00:05:13 Is it? It might be. But it's big. Yeah. People love it. Grab it, great way to support the show. Then you also have the, you know. Whose idea? That was our t-. It tip tip tip idea was that actually that was a mind

Starting point is 00:05:25 it's that was that was that was our t-shirt guy yeah that was a good one props to that guy yeah props that guy hey dude we're always open-minded t-shirts if you have a t-shirt design you want to send to us we're down with it you know if we use it you get a hundred bucks and you get the shirt yeah so I mean but if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if the the the th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th the th the th th th the th the the th I the th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. the. te. teeeeeeee. te. th. th. theee. th. the. th. th. th. and you get a shirt yeah so I mean but if we don't use most of them not because we don't like it but it's like we got it we have a very high standard and I just know if you submit it might not be used so just know that and but we love any designs we're working on a to their thing and also don't come at me with like hey I have this idea can you this do it to thr I th and th th th th th th th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi. they thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they you to give me the idea at least half drawn at least something to give to someone else but don't come at me we're like hey can you get this done? A lot of people think I do a lot of shows this guy does

Starting point is 00:06:10 tons of shows. It's always doing. He's smoking a lot of weed with Mexicans and they're all finding out, guess what? They don't smoke the same. T they don't smoke the same. That's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they don't the same. they don't smoke. they they the same. T. T. they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the same. T. T. T. T. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thi the. the. thi thi a name. We're thinking of Stoners, but it's just too common. How many, how many episodes have you done? We're up by like, 1.10? You haven't come up with a name for your fans? I don't know, just... How about the illegals? They're legal. They're just, to forget the names. We're all too high. We're not going to remember everybody. That was great.

Starting point is 00:06:45 Guys, if you want to support the show, go to Sam Tripoli.com. All my dates are there. All my stand-up clips are there. All my videos are there for the most part. You can all give news channel there. All at Sam Tripoli.com. If you want premium content, go to Rockfin. Rokfine. tom. Tim Fall Hat. Zero. Broken Sim. We don't smoke the same. You name it. It's all there. Jimmy Doors live on there. Now as we speak our guest Derek Broves is on there. That that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th is that that th is that th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th. th. thoom. thi. thoom. the thoom. the the the the the th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. I tip. I tip. I t. I t. I t. t. t. t. toge. t. t. tog. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. Jimmy Doors live right now as we speak. Jimmy Doors live on there! Now as we speak our guest Derek Broves is on there. All the heavy hitters are there. So go check it out. It's a great way to support the show. I also have free content. Free content. Tim Fall Hat will always be free. Broken Sim free. Cash Daddy's financial show for free.

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Starting point is 00:08:02 So that's why we, it's not like like, the people were saying, Sam's lazy and stuff, it's nothing to do with that. Yeah, you're gonna get three bang episodes out, bam, bang, bang, bang, you're gonna hate us. Go check it out, is there anything I forgot guys? We're also working on a mystery box. Mystery box if you've got any ideas, let's run it. Subscription boxes, what we're talking about. We're talking about it. We gotta just figure it out, man.

Starting point is 00:08:29 We just gotta figure it out. Just pay pal me, I'll take care of it. What do you mean? Nice fucking with you. Okay. All right guys, so again, great episode. the end of it gets a little wonky but you know hopefully Johnny can do some magic on it and come see me live and just know 2020 can you guys believe it's gonna be 2022? Unbelieve that you guys are younger than me I don't ever remember

Starting point is 00:08:54 thinking about 20 my head spinning yeah right so 2020 we're gonna go hard to paint like young Christian warriors we come to fight. We fight for love. Enjoy the show. Go deep home boy. Here, open your mic. Drink from the fountain. All right, guys, let's get into it. Super excited about having this next guest on. I was just chilling at Skang Fest with the Skanks and this guy walked up to me, introduced himself and I instantly recognized him as the gentleman who was interviewing Epstein's Victims' Lawyer and so I'm very excited to have him on. He's an independent

Starting point is 00:09:38 in independent researcher, journalist and ghost hunter. Please welcome Derek Rose. How are you brother? Hey, I'm doing good man, thanks for having me on. Dude, honor and a privilege man. I recognize you instantly and I'm super thankful you came up and said hello and I'm super glad that Mark could get you in really quick so it's honor and a privilege to have you on. For those who may not be familiar with you and your work. And you're also part of the last vagabonds, as well, last American vagabonds. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Yeah, sure. So briefly, I live in Mexico right now. I've been living here for the last year and a half since COVID started,

Starting point is 00:10:16 but I'm originally from Houston, where I met you, and in 2010, basically, two-n started to wake up, as a lot of us say, and pretty quickly just decided to get active. I started an activist group in the city, started doing freelance, you know, kind of citizen journalism and eventually that got me, you know, a radio show in Houston, which I still have called Free Thinker Radio on 90.1 in Houston, although they're trying to kick us off for talking about COVID stuff. And, you know, along along along along along along along along along along along the the the the th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, I's, I's, I's, I's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I, I. I, I. I, I, I. I, I, I. I's, I's, I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. And, thi. toda. today, today, today, today, today, today, today, tod COVID stuff. And, you know, along the way, I've, I just, I just realized the media wasn't doing their job. So I started writing for alternative media. I've written for most of the major sites that

Starting point is 00:10:51 have all been deleted right now. And as you said it right now, I'm working for the last American Vagabon with Ryan and Whitney Webb. And I also started producing documentaries, some of which we'll talk about today, and I've written a few books as well, and I actually just finished doing my third US tour, kind of combining my music. I do conscious hip-hop with giving speeches, and then my girlfriend doing guided meditation. So we kind of took the whole show on the road, and that's just, I guess, what I do, whether it's music, writing articles, writing documentaries, doing podcasts and doing different types of reporting. I just try to put everything I can into waking people up really. I love all of it. I'm a fan of your work and I'm a fan of the last American vagabonds, everybody on there doing the Lord's work and I really do

Starting point is 00:11:40 appreciate again you coming up and saying hello again you are very well you're known for a lot of stuff but you know the first time I heard about you the the to to th. I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi to thi to thi. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. te. te. the try. the try. try. try. try. try. thi. to to wa. thi. Again, you are very well, you're known for a lot of stuff. But you know, the first time I heard about you and saw your work was your interview with the lawyers from the Jeffrey Epstein trial. I want to get your opinion on what's going on in your humble opinion with the Jislane Maxwell situation. We keep hearing trial starting, jury's getting picked, nobody's seeing anything. It makes me hard to believe that they're doing this for the safety or they're worried about her getting taken out or any of that stuff. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, I think... I think there's good reason to be a reason the to be to be to be to be the to be the their to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. thi. thi. thi. I is tri. tria. I is tria. trial. trial. trial. trial. trial. trial. trial. trial. their their their th her getting taken out or any of that stuff. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean I think I think there's a good reason to be

Starting point is 00:12:30 skeptical right clearly we had this for me. It was this this crazy thing experiencing Epstein stuff because like you said I've been kind of reporting on this for years I got to interview Brad Edwards that clip went to some of thi. I went to Jeffrey Epstein's. I. I. I. I. th. I. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was. th. th. th. I was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the's the the the the the. the. th. the. th. th. the the th. the the th. th. the the the the the the the the. the. the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. the. the. things he said. I went and did, went to Jeffrey Epstein's house in 2018 to film a scene for a documentary I did called Bringing Down Jeffrey Epstein. And you know, watching him get arrested and then quote unquote kill himself was just so bizarre to watch it basically turn from like, oh my god, people are paying attention.

Starting point is 00:12:58 We're about to expose this to where it becomes just a joke on Saturday Night Live. Oh, Epstein didn't kill himself. And so that was just really disturbing. And I think, obviously, the Q& on, what I consider to be a si-up, really made it difficult for people to talk about those realities. Because if you bring up those kinds of things, even with Epstein out in the mainstream, people still say, that's, Epstein and connection to the intelligence community and cover-ups and all that stuff. Supposedly in prison, right? We've seen like one picture of her and a bunch of chalk sketches and you know, it's, it's, there's definitely, I think, any reasonable person knowing all the things, the facts about Epstein and that whole network and who they're connected to Israeli intelligence, you know, and even in the mainstream having some of the the political the political the political the political the political the political, I the political, I the political, I the political, I the political, I the political, I the political, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, I, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th... th. th. thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi. And, and thi. And, and, thiauuiauauiaui. And, and, and, theeeauu. And, and thi. And, you know, and even in the mainstream having some of the politicians say, oh well, we had to drop

Starting point is 00:13:48 the investigation because we were told he was intelligence. And knowing Maxwell, Gilling Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, and his connections, he was probably an MI6 and Israeli agent who died under mysterious circumstances. Knowing all this stuff, it's really hard to just accept, oh yeah, she just sitting in jail waiting for a prosecution for, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they.e.e.e.e.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the the the the the the the the the the the the the it's really hard to just accept, oh yeah, she's just sitting in jail waiting for a prosecution and especially when we're not seeing anything. They did say a couple days ago, okay, the case is moving forward. It's going to start sometime. I think next month they're claiming. I wouldn't be surprised if it keeps getting delayed and things like that. The conditions are horrible and she doesn't take showers because the securities are creeping up on her. I mean they're trying to do anything. She's talking about creepy shit when she's the biggest creep on. They're trying to do anything to humanize her and it's just, it's, it's unbelievable.

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Starting point is 00:17:08 I do a show with a guy that believes nothing of what we talk about. And you know, and he's like, Pizza Gate where they're doing things to kids in the basement. And I go, well, dude, you know, I mean, like the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, the Jeffrey, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, know, I mean like the Jeffrey Epstein is like 100% a part of all that and then this you know the 2019 where like five associates of a Hillary Clinton get arrested for child sex trafficking like you can't just deny it. He's like it's just so like we're you know what it is man and I just feel like we got we got to understand we're gonna lose some soldiers I think because I, I, I, I think I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, th, th, the, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, th, you know, th, th, the, the, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, we got to understand we're going to lose

Starting point is 00:17:45 some soldiers I think because I if at this point no matter what information you're given okay that you can't understand that you were wrong and you want to admit like okay man like I'm gonna say some I thought Donald Trump I mean I never trust the president after Obama, but I thought Trump might be a little different. And I think he's like somewhat of a Godzilla, right? He's like, he's a thick guy dude that just is a monster, but do you want him over the other monsters?

Starting point is 00:18:17 And I still think that's a possibility. But not with all the stuff I'm learning about black rock and how, and put all these Blackrock people into all these positions and now we're hearing that the Fed, which is ran by Blackrock, which Larry Fink has invested huge amounts of his investors' money into their business, is now basically having Goldman Sachs use Fed money to bail out ever, what's it called Evergrand or whatever it's called? Holy shit! How can you sit there now and say that Donald Trump is like why he's like an outsider? Yeah, it's good to hear that you're questioning that narrative for sure because I think a lot of people over the last four years spent their time try to defend Trump and even as things continue to pile up like with being bailed out back in the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the day the the the the the th th th th th thronde thronde thronde thronde throndearnat's that, that, throndea that's that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the their their their their they their their to their their they their they their their their their time trying to defend Trump and even as things continue to pile up like with being bailed out back in the day by Rothchild's, you know, connections to his mentor Roy Cohn, Whitney Webb did a lot of work on that, his connections to pedophilia, etc. But then not even just things in the past but like the actions he was taking, the ones you mentioned, tho the actions the actions the actions the actions the actions thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiol-a, thiol-a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, theeea, thea, thin, thea, thea. thi. thea. thea, get it. People still want to believe in the, you know, in the system to some degree. It's hard to sort of let go of that because

Starting point is 00:19:30 I think part of its propaganda that we all receive from a young age to believe in these systems. But also I think some people, if they start stage, which is like, holy crap, I gotta do something for myself, then I have to save myself, then I have to save myself, we have to save ourselves. You know, there's nobody coming into riding on the white horse, which I kind of find empowering, honestly. I'm like, I don't want to waste my time, and couple elections to realize they're full of shit. Yeah, and that's a, and I know we're going to lose some people saying this, but I'm just, like, take a look at it. Pull your emotions out and take a look what's going on. Yeah, there were things that Trump did that I liked.

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Starting point is 00:22:07 this person that he supposedly is having a feud over, whatever it was about, then, you know, why would he not be willing to maybe turn against him? Or perhaps he recognized that like, okay, they're on turn against him, which is what a lot of people did, the Clintons and others, but we just have at least, the earliest video I think is 1992 showing Epstein and Trump together, the one they released in last year or two. And then there's at least some article references that myself and Whitney found going back to like the 80s talking about their connection. And so the there's the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, so th, so th, so th, so thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi, thi. thi. thi. I was, thi. I was, thi. I was, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.. thi.. thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi he had like 14 numbers from Trump, like his private home number, his car number, all these different things.

Starting point is 00:22:48 They clearly had an extensive relationship, right? And the rumor, though, this idea that Trump kicked Epstein out of Marlago, I traced it down to one single source, and that was the book, Filty rich by James Patterson. There's actually kind of a weird story here that James Patterson is like a fiction writer. He also lived in Palm Beach where Epstein was at and apparently hated Epstein. You know, some people think he was involved and again they turned on each other. But either way, his story is that he hated Epstein so much, he decided to write a book all about how disgusting this guy was and he wanted to expose it. And it's in that book, Filty Rich, that does have a lot of the known facts, but it's in that book where he tells the story and says, according to somebody he interviewed within the club, that the club, that the club to interview, that the club. Thea tried to hit on one of the club members' daughters or something like that, right? So that's the only th. thso is that's thso is th. th. th. th. that's th. th. th. thi's th. thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. the. the. the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story th. the story the story th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. he. the. he. the. hea. theeeeeeeeeeeeea. tea. toda. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. there's no other verification I reached there's a journalist that helped Jim James Patterson write the book I reached out to him

Starting point is 00:23:48 they couldn't provide anything or they chose not to but the other interesting aspect is that James Patterson also after that wrote a book with Bill Clinton and toward the country with Bill Clinton and you know Clinton obviously his connections Epstein and other things so it's just this web of people that I'm like I don't th. th. the th. th. the th. the the th. th. the the th. th. the the th. the the. th. th. the the. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. thi. the thi. the. the thi. th. th. the th. the the the the th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the thi's thi. the the. theeeeeeeeean. theeean. the theeeean. the theee. thean. the. the. the. the. So it's just this web of people that I'm like I don't trust any of them You know I don't trust James Patterson. I don't trust Trump Epstein obviously What do you think about the second little book that popped up? Earlier this year, you know, that someone found a little black book and it was Epsien's book? thinne's book and this lady kept it for the thin's thin's thin's thin's thin's thin's thin's thin's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. thin's. thin's. thin's. tru. true. true. true. tru. tru. tru. tru. I don't. I don't. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. I. tru. I. tru. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. t. t. t. t. t. t. true. t. true. t. true. true. tr's got a list of all these people and they're trying to figure out if it's or not what do you think about that? I haven't heard that but I haven't heard any like

Starting point is 00:24:31 I remember seeing the headline go by briefly but I haven't had time to dig into it myself and I mean unfortunately I mean you guys know this there's just so so much garbage out there like the problem. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I's thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. to to. the. the. to. the. the. they they the. the. the. the. thi. th sense of the way the corporate media and the government use it, obviously they try to use that to demonize people like us, but there really is garbage, and a lot of times I think it's purposeful disinformation planted by the intelligence community, but also, I mean, I've seen it myself in the community. fake and therefore anything from this community must be real. And people who just don't have any research skills, they don't have very good critical thinking, you know, people send me stuff like, check out this crazy thing, Derek. And in two seconds I can debunk it or show them like, hey guys, this is garbage. Happens all the time. Happens all the timecious Resistance Trilogy.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Can you tell us a little bit about it? Yeah, man, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this. So the book that you're referring to is the collection of my first three books that were originally published in 2015, 16 and 17. And then I connected with this publisher, discovery publishers and they decided to help me and my partner John Vibes re-release it as one book and update it with like new chapters and basically what we originally intended it to be and pretty much the idea behind the three books within there it's just an exploration of specifically like anarchism,

Starting point is 00:25:57 self-governance, you know what does freedom really mean as like in the physical realm and what is government and what are corporations and all these different kinds of philosophical questions as well as as the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thia-upia-s the the thia-s, thiau-s, theau-upiaqis. theaqis. theaqis. the. theaqis. the the the the the the the the the the the thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. the. thea-s, the thea-s, the the the thea-s, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theauiauiauiauiauiauiauiaugn. the the the the the the the the the the physical realm and what is government and what are corporations and all these different kinds of philosophical questions as well as talking about the spiritual search for meaning and the kind of deeper inner work you know and it was inspired by when I met my buddy John he's in Maryland and I'm in Houston we connected through some synchronous events that basically brought us together and we realized hey we both had an interest and the psychedelics shamanism and anarchism and we started having some podcasts th.. th and th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th and th. th. the the thi the the thi the the thi thi thi the the the thin s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sinkin sysc-s. the sicken s si. the s s si. the s s s si. the s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s sa. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theirc-i-i-i-i-i-i-a-i. their-a-a-a-a-a and the psychedelics, shamanism, and anarchism. And we started having some podcasts back in 2014-15 discussing this, and that eventually it kind of evolved into this book idea of just exploring what does that mean the conscious

Starting point is 00:26:33 resistance. And that's the name of my website, and, you know, I guess, for lack of better term, the movement that I've been working on. And essentially, it just means that that the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the conscious, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, the, the, th. thi, thi, thi, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, the, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind, the, kind, kind, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. the, kind, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. the to, the the that the conscious resistance is this idea that the understanding that trying to create a better world for, you know, that I think most of us are after a more free, more just world, it's not only going to come from confronting the physical institutions of power, like say governments and corporations. I mean, that's important to identify these people. They've got maniacal plans, and that what I call that struggle against your internal tyrant, your own doubts, few years, insecurities, etc. And just kind of doing that deeper work. And the reason I'm focused on that is because, and the reason I'll just tell this, and

Starting point is 00:27:12 if you want to hear more, I'll tell you more about it. Yeah, go far. to crystal meth, and I went to prison, and that's kind of what started. That's basically what got me here to talking with you. Who hasn't been addicted to crystal meth? Yeah, especially if you were around in the mid-2000s. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Starting point is 00:28:26 you know, and I'm out, I'm a felon. I start, you know, just looking for a job and, you know, long story short, I basically started to realize that, like not only as I was not addicted to drugs anymore, the depression I had been holding on to the to learn. And then, you know, fast forward about a year. I watched an Alex Jones documentary, I read a couple of books. I heard Ron Paul speak in Houston, listen to this band that was like talking about this death metal band. I was talking about the Federal Reserve, and all of that within like a week or two and it was just like, you know, nothing was the same. And I started doing all this crap. So, you know, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to to to to to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I heard. I. I heard. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. to. to. to. th. to. th. to. th. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. the. the. the. to bring in that healing aspect. That's why, you know, I talked about that whenever we started, me and John started having these conversations because I was waking up spiritually,

Starting point is 00:29:08 emotionally, mentally before I ever started to question the government. And then once I got into it, I realized like, hey, these are two, these are kind of for me the same thing. You know, I have some friends who only focus on spirituality and doing consciousness stuff and whatever and they're like don't talk about the bad things you're going to manifest it, you know you're going to bring bad vibes or whatever. And then I have activist friends who only want to talk about activist things in philosophy or government but don't have an interest in the spirituality and that was kind of my life for the first couple years in activism in Houston and then that phrase the conscious resistance came this intersection. And that led to the books. And the books are like an exploration of all those ideas. The first book we consider it to be like the mind because it explores like big ideas, psychedelics, meditation.

Starting point is 00:29:53 You know, I tell my story of being locked up and talk about solitude and the importance of growth through that. We also asked what is government, what is freedom really mean. The second, the second, the second, the second, traditions and religions and anarchism and kind of shows that the roots of these, a lot of the world religions today, actually their origins, most of them were actually very anti-authoritarian, like Christianity wasn't telling people to follow the church or the Pope or whatever like that, you know, and same thing with Buddhism, a lot of theirism, you know, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, the roots, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their their the second book's like the heart. It's called Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion. It's all just essays about self-empowerment, how to motivate yourself, and there's some meditation exercises in there. And in the third book is the mind,

Starting point is 00:30:32 because it's like the real deeper, like philosophical stuff. Like how do we create a world without, what would a world look like without governments and ruling over our lives. And I outline my ideal vision of an intentional community, which is what I'm trying to build out here in Mexico, and then just sort of, yeah, outline some different principles and ideas within there. So it's like a big work. It's only 300 pages or so, but there's a lot of big ideas explored in there. And it's been cool to see the movement of people who are both exploring psychedelics and spirituality and freedom intersecting because like when I was starting out 12 years ago there wasn't so much of that it was like a lot of people were

Starting point is 00:31:07 the anarchists I knew were mainly atheists or just disinterested and now there's crypto and psychedelics and spirituality all just kind of the the the the the. Comedy all merging together into this crazy mess of something I don't know but it's awesome and so yeah that's kind of what I've been focusing on for the last 12 years. I fucking love it dude. I am right there with you. It is what I do. It's where I am and I think it's very hard. I think you'd be spiritual I guess without looking in the conspiracies but I think it's almost impossible to be in the conspiracies and then not look at the spirituality of everything. Because you start asking what else are they lying to me about the conspir the conspir the conspirat the the the conspirat the conspirate the the the the conspirate the the conspiracies and then not look at the spirituality of everything because you start asking what else are they lying to me about and I also don't want to live in a place where I'm just all kumbaya and woo woo you know I think it's very important to take a look what's going on around you and ask why is this all

Starting point is 00:31:58 happening to you and you know to just be conspiracy and no spirituality is I think it's just a path to darkness. And I think that's how you get to be blackpilled. And I, this show will end when I become blackpil. It will end. I'm telling you, there will be no more Timful hat if I'm like, there is no hope. Because I'm so far away from that right now. Like the more and more this man the more more I study just the universe and all that stuff It's like I keep telling people it's like man these guys aren't bigger than the universe Man they I don't care what they do their specks of shit Klaus is a spec of shit to the universe and he's not he do that's just like a fleet that's th I th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm their I'm just I don't is a the the their I'm just their I'm I'm just their I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the to the universe. And he's not, dude, that's just like a fleet

Starting point is 00:32:45 trying to tell a fucking, you know, trying to run the world, run the universe, it doesn't happen, it can't, and that's why right now they have all the money and they have all the power and they're trying to control the spirituality, and those two things aren't, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not going to work man. And it's going to get ugly, it's going to get rough, but just know at the end of it is fucking light because if you study true history, hidden history, you realize they've tried this a thousand times before and they fail every time.

Starting point is 00:33:14 Man cannot control man. And right now, you know, you have a group of a very powerful, dark arts people trying to work together to control humanity. And it's just not gonna have, I'm telling you. And I know we wanna believe that they control every aspect of the internet. I just think it's too big. I just think it's too big and they can't control it all. And like, it's blood in the fucking water. Don't you think though that that's only a technological limitation that that's going to be probably overcome eventually? I mean they're trying for sure I mean

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Starting point is 00:37:54 you know, went forward and buy into the narrative and the communities who don't. And so I've seen it in different parts of the country, especially when we did this tour, and people are saying, oh, we try to host our yoga classes or meditation or whatever meetups and, you know, some of the venues are like, no, you can't come here if you're not vaccinated or if you're not wearing masks. And so people are breaking off and forming their own things. So it definitely, this, you know, these communities, they're not immune to the other, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, the the the the the the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the the venues, the the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the the the venues, the the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the., the., the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the the the. v. the the. venues, the the the. venues, the the the the the venues, the the venues, the venues, the venues, the venues, the other point you said I think it's so important that having that foundation right because I definitely have met a lot of people in the spiritual communities over the years and I started to put some effort into speaking at transformational festivals in California, Costa Rica and elsewhere and these are festivals where people get the spiritual side of things but but maybe they don't want to hear about the bad things going on the world and so I may start speaking the the their their their their their I I I I I I I to to to to to to speak I to to speak I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the I the the I'm I'm I the the I the the try. try. try. try. try. try. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. I thea. I try. I to to the realities that are happening and I could see though the people who are just there to kind of wear the

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Starting point is 00:39:13 that kind of thing. And yeah, but I think to be alive right now. It's crazy, it's insane, like everything that's happening, the Klaus Schwabs and all that, but you're right, they are just like a tiny spec and I do believe that, honestly, I believe, and I've been meeting more and more people who feel this way, that I think this is thii. to be alive during this time to affect the direction, the too, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, the direction, their, their, their, thrown, thr, thr, thr, their, thr, their, thr, their, th-I. thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. thin, th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th face it, man, there is only one reason this is happening, and that is that law enforcement and the military, no matter where you are, are the ones enforcing these rules. And they're a very small group of people. And they're waking up day by day, by day to what's going on. You have places in Austria, Australia, where it's taken a little longer, and these, these fucking cops, have, th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. thi, thi, the they. thi, thi, thi, thi, thate, that, thate. tha. that's, tha. that's, tha. thea. tha. they. they. they. the th Austria, Australia where it's taken a little longer and these

Starting point is 00:40:06 fucking cops have allowed this go far enough but they're gonna lose man. They're gonna lose. They're gonna lose because spiritually they can't make this happen. We are so much about like what these governments have done and all the stuff. Now I'm not saying that things like the cleansing that communist countries did didn't happen, but how much of that did we actually experience? And how much of that is us being told by people trying to maintain power

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Starting point is 00:41:10 and like he's like, look at Google. You should go look at Google. I'd love that, this guy and I made the video. Look at Google, right? Google says, one billion items, but you only go back 40 pages and it's 300 different 300 and then it stops They found 300 things because it's contracting Or like whenever you click like a like if you go to like even government Government links they don't go nowhere. Yeah, they're disappeared. They're just there to make it see my look we have it right if you want it's to their click on it it ain't fucking there so so so much of this is an illusion in my humble opinion and it's

Starting point is 00:41:46 just like they can't control everything all the time. That's my home. It's very hard. They even said it's, you know, it's a famous quote by Nealcon and I forget how to pronounce his name, but it was basically like, you know, it's easier not to kill a million people than control a million people. It used to be easier to control a million people than kill a million people. It's very hard right now to control. And you know the Metaverse and all that stuff, guess what, man? There's a lot of people pulling out of the internet. There's a reason why Facebook started Metaverse because they're losing their control of the market because everybody is bailing on it and we got real lazy man we got real lazy because we're like oh I could spend time going everybody's

Starting point is 00:42:29 their website or I could just go on Facebook and that's all the internet in one place and we got super lazy and they condensed all their power and now we realize that they're not playing fair like Instagram which is a part of of Facebook, completely is hypocritical. It's completely, like, again, I got taken down for Camelto pictures of Hillary Clinton. Not even that. You try to follow, Sam, it literally says,

Starting point is 00:42:58 this guy posted stuff that we don't agree with. Are you sure you want to follow him? Right? And they're losing their control over it. And eventually, telegrams killing him now, eventually they'll go after telegram. I was telling Johnny last week, you know they're taking away the dislike button. Not the dislike button, as in like they're still going to be there health but then yet the you can go find it in the analytics well you know what it is now is people writing dislike it on the comments I've seen a video where YouTube announces that you have you actually look at every single comment like 10,000 plus

Starting point is 00:43:38 comments is negative and it's not just from conspiracy there's like us right it's just normal content creators you can tell from their their channels saying hey we weren't consulted on this this is you know just people it's got I can't remember how many down votes like it's clear even in their own little system I think that was the last time you could down vote right that would be publicly displayed that people they're not doing what people to thrown their people to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their their their their their their their their to to to to to to to to to to te te te te tte te te te te te te te te te. te. to to to to to to to to to to to ttto t Sam as well that we I think a lot of people did get lazy and we made this huge mistake. I'd say we being a lot of the alternative media people that I worked with, we built our platforms on Facebook from 2014 up till what we called a purge of October 2018 happened you know almost just three years ago last month where they usually did the anti-media the free thought project,

Starting point is 00:44:20 collective evolution a lot of these big pages that had 4 million, 5 million followers and we were reaching tens of millions of people every week. We would literally get our analytics from CNN, Washington Post, etc., and compare them to the alternative media, and we were kicking their asses. That traffic and that movement helped spark some of the no war with Syria movement, the March against Monsanto. Some of these biggest movements of the 2010s that happened started because of social media and yeah we all got comfortable and then one day they decided you know what we're gonna partner with the Atlantic Council we're gonna start going after disinformation. It started happening of course after Trump started using the fake news thing and it got used against us like oh you're fake news

Starting point is 00:44:59 before theynecler. Before you know all these different platforms are deleted. 500 pages, that was the first wave, I think a couple months before that, they had deleted Alex Jones, then 500 big pages on Facebook and YouTube and Twitter, et cetera, and it's just gotten worse and worse since then. And for me, somebody who was working in that, the effect was very real. Like, that happened in October 2018. By June 2019, I was working for four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four four for four for four for four for four for four different alternative media sites, Ben Swan, the Anti-Media Free Thought,

Starting point is 00:45:25 and a few others that are not around anymore because of this. And within a week, everybody fired all their writers. We went from the anti-media having a team of 10 different writers, some doing different, geopolitics, technology, etc., a full-time editor, a couple of meme makers. And we had full teams like this across different websites, and within six months it was all gone. All those articles that would be being written right now about COVID, you know, all the stuff that would be exposed, obviously they would have tried to censor it, but they did this very early on it.

Starting point is 00:45:53 It was like the first realization for us in the community, like, holy crap, like if this we can't broadcast, we lost all our audience because we based our model on traffic to the website for Google ads from social media. So once Google ads said we're not going to serve you anymore and once Facebook to leave our pages, they were just no more, we had no, we didn't, you know, we didn't build up email list. And Patriot wasn't what Patreon was or Rockfin and all that stuff. Yeah, exactly. So there wasn't thi th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, thi, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th, th, th. So, th, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, that's, that's, that's, that's, tho. We's, that's, thoo. We's, thoo. We's, tho. We's, tho. this alternative way to build and now there is and they're trying to control that as well and it will eventually be where

Starting point is 00:46:29 people are just going to have pay walls on their websites and you know no matter what they do there's just some kid who can't get laid creating a way to f-fuck in to beat it. Now do you remember the day we got purged? Well, I mean, we had, uh, what's his face on there? Forget what his name is. Uh, Jeff, fuck, what's Jeff's last name? But he was on here, I felt so bad for him because he came on here and it just was, we're all sad. That was a sad day. I texted some. I was like, it's gone. He's yeah, we had him, I felt so bad.

Starting point is 00:47:05 He hasn't been back since. I'm like, I promise you, we won't be kicked off again. Come on, but he's great. So you have a book called, another book called, Opt Out Out of the Technocratic State. Tell us a little bit about that, because this fits in exactly what we're talking about here how to opt out of the technocratic state this has actually been my most popular book like ever

Starting point is 00:47:32 because it was published January 31st 2020 about two weeks before we heard the words COVID-19 and everything I talked about the book minus talking about a pandemic is is what's happening right now. So I just want to mention this too. The book is free to download the conscious resistance.com slash how to. Anybody can go download the PDF and check it out there. It's been published now in Spanish, French, and soon in German. And I think it's just right now people are really resonating with it. Because as a journalist, specifically somebody who's focused a lot on digital surveillance technology. I was one of the first people to break the story in Houston that the Houston Police Department was using Stingray cell phone surveillance.

Starting point is 00:48:08 And I caught them lying and got the media, the mainstream media to report on it. So I've been watching this stuff for years and paying attention to things like thin. their thiii. And there are people who are much more educated in know, kind of like people with degrees and lawyers and things like that who've been warning for years like we are just walking into Terminator in the Matrix and all these combined without thinking about it that if we just continue to let facial recognition expand as it has in China it will be the end of privacy and eventually the end of Liberty I believe and that AI as well as just represents this potential, you know, potentially amazing awesome uses of technology all the things th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, thi, thi, and, thi, and thi, and thi, to be to be to be to be too. And, tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooi. And, toeean. And, toe you know, potentially amazing, awesome uses of technology,

Starting point is 00:48:46 all the things we've seen in sci-fi movies, just as much as super dystopian potentials, right? So I was assessing the situation in 2019 when I was writing the book and just looking at where things were headed already, they were already pushing things against the people who don't want the shots and stuff, and just kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind and stuff and just kind of anticipating, what would it look like for a person to be free in, you know, this technocratic, transhumanist, complete control grid, surveillance, future?

Starting point is 00:49:10 Like, how do you stay free if you can't even, you know, get food without, or you can't even get online without signing in? People have floated this idea of like an internet just to access the internet, right? So if you're a mainstream person, that that means, that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, their, and, and, their, and, and, their, their, and, their, their, and, th.... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, if you're a mainstream person, that means you get on the internet with your approved ID, everything you do is tracked, everywhere you go is tracked, and all these kinds of things. And I was anticipating some of the stuff we're seeing now, like we're seeing the people who can't travel, you can't enter places without showing proof of vaccination. That's all a part of this technocratic, you know, future stuff, focus on the philosophy of agorism and counter economics and just the brief version of it is just it's a philosophy that says don't use politics to try to save things because that's in my turn and my belief it's not going to fix it. Violence isn't really the

Starting point is 00:50:00 answer. I don't think violence, you know, using violence and force against other people and accept and self-defense as moral as justice, right. So if you're not going to use politics, you're not going to use violence, you know, what are you left with? Some people choose apathy. This man named Stas, and 4, he came up with their egoism and basically opting out of the government or vote them out, let's just build a new system. Let's get our money, our time, our energy out of their banks, out of their schools, out of these systems and start to create new ones. And he was writing this in the 60s and 70s. He predicted things like Bitcoin and crypto and a lot of the stuff that we're seeing. He didn't live long enough to see it. But now we're seeing what I've recognized is I've been talking about this philosophy, this idea is the way for years and it's been kind of edgy and

Starting point is 00:50:47 extreme or whatever, but now you got soccer moms and people like, hey I need to get my kids out of the school, I need to get out of these systems because otherwise I'm gonna get locked in you know with a vaccine passport. I'm not going to be need to create parallel societies, that we need to build something outside of their system. And so to me, that's what how to opt out the technocratic state is all about. It's like how does somebody as an agorist, which is what we call ourselves, because it's all about the agora, with vaccine passports, right? What does that look like?

Starting point is 00:51:29 And to me, the answer is you have to get out of their systems. Like, I don't think there's going to be a way into the near future, like going into 2022, after this travel season, they're saying they're seeing that already. Austria, Germany just announced it, you know, parts of Europe. It's considering it. Like that's becoming the new trend, right? So to me, I don't see any way to stay in this life that we become accustomed to, you know, without accepting their new normal, as they put it, right? So to me, like? How do you think about getting, for one, like getting off big tech, right? Big step, using alternative social search engines, getting out of the banking system, using, you know, local currencies or barter, or crypto, or silver, whatever it may be. But just kind of applying that strategy in every different area of your life.

Starting point is 00:52:18 A lot of people want to get the kids out of the school system. News, the school system was crap before COVID. It's a propaganda machine, you know a lot of people are only thinking about it now because of the jabs But it's been a problem for a long time and that's what the book really focuses on like how Knowing that this future is right here in front of us agenda 2030 that's their plan the year 2030 great reset. It's 202. It's 2021 right now going into 2022. They just had a UN food summit a couple of thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the the thi. the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. th. the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. They called this the decade of transformation. We're either going to create our own vision, and I believe like get out of their systems to create some alternative, or we're gonna get swept up in it. And the final point I'll make is that I think even

Starting point is 00:52:54 they understand this, man, because you know the, I Forum and published by Forbes magazine. Well, if you actually go and read it, you know, encourage anybody who hasn't seen it to read it and go pull it up. And she's talking about, you know, sometimes I miss privacy and miss this and that, but life is so much better. I own nothing, blah, blah, whatever. You get down about halfway and it says, they live different kinds of lives outside the city. And she kind of goes through th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you thi, you thi, you th th th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It's thi. It's the the the to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to the an the an the an the an anybody anybody the an anybody th of goes through this thing. I can't remember the exact words, but she basically says, you know, what does worry me is all the people who decided that these changes were too much for them. That got mad at the politicians and the policies they made.

Starting point is 00:53:32 The people who were upset because they lost their jobs to robots and AI, the people who just decided to reject the city. They now live and abandoned 20th and 19th century buildings and create their own communities and it's like, okay, that's gonna be us. They want us to think it's gonna be some Mad Max kind of dystobial. The Matrix. But that's the lie of the Matrix. Yeah, that's the Matrix. The sly up of the Matrix was that those who lived outside the those lived outside the system had farms, had families, raised kids, and we're happy, fucking people.

Starting point is 00:54:08 And that is it. And you know, I have a little, you know, cliff high is somebody had on and it was a really great discussion like this discussion is. And he, you know, he's a guy who's been using data and crunching it and he said something that resonated with me. And maybe because I just want hope, but he's like he says at the end of 2022, their plan doesn't work and I don't see how they can maintain this. I just don't understand how they could go.

Starting point is 00:54:36 I mean, the problem is this. They're going too hard, too fast. And there's something happening that's scaring them that they have to do all all all all all all all the the the the the the the their their their their their their their hard, too fast. And there's something happening that's scaring them that they have to do all this stuff, raising the gas price, supply chain stuff, vaccine, fourth boosters. Okay, all this stuff is like, your kids gotta get it, even though there's no reason for kids to get this shot. Like if you can't prove me it stops transmission,

Starting point is 00:55:04 there's literally no reason for the kids to get to get to get to get this shot. Like if you can't prove me it stops transmission, there's literally no reason for the kids to get the shot. And right now you have Fauci and all of them telling you you it doesn't work. They're losing it. I know it sounds crazy and they're like we just want to be like, well every move is a different move and it's a different move. Well it's like, now they just got busted. Now they just got busted like Bill Gates talks about smallpox now they just got busted with like vials in in Philadelphia do you see that dude where they found like files a smallpox and maybe that it's like some laboratory right after Bill Gates says there might be outbreaks it's kind of interesting timing well that's supposed to be like what is it a five stage five fa facility we're not too supposed to be like, what is it, a five-stage-five facility where nothing's supposed

Starting point is 00:55:46 to go out like Wuhan was? Like, Wuhan was one of those philicidicities where nothing was supposed to come out and look where we're at now. What happens if your immune system is completely compromised by this vaccine, which we're seeing doctor after doctor after doctor say, and now there's a smallpox breakout I mean this seems like play a layer on layer on layer and I'm just waiting for people to wake up and Johnny said before and we hear Jim Brewer say this written house trial is a giant shift focus from what is really going on which is they're they're trying to fucking

Starting point is 00:56:24 cripple this country from the inside and I don't give a fuck what anybody says. China knows they can't take us on head to head. They just know they can't do it. They can't do it. They'll flood us with these fucking ats, man. That's what they call them on World Star bets, I mean, Wall Street bets, ats. Because they're just idiot. I mean, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're bets, ats, because they're just idiot. I mean they do, they're broken robots. I'm sorry.

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Starting point is 00:57:13 million man army too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I So I think everything is awakening. I will. I have I have friends of mine like let's start a fucking business in the Metaverse. Maybe this is where I become the old man and I don't participate in it. Because I have no interest in going in the Metaverse. I'm killing it too hard in this reality. Why do I want to be with Betas? Okay, how about make money on the Metaverse? Because that's where I get a lot of shit. He's like, you're anti-Metiverse, but yet you're buying sandbox and manna, which I'm like, I'm still trying to get money. I'm so trying to make money to live here. Yeah, but I'm not going If you go in there, you're not coming back? I want to ask, that's what I want to ask you, Sam, because I've been thinking about this too. I definitely, like, I have an article that I'm putting out in planting seeds in his mind he sees through a lot of garbage but people like

Starting point is 00:58:27 his his age and younger my nieces who are 12 years old 10 years old by the time they get 1718 the Metavers is probably going to be the coolest thing for them it's gonna be like the internet was for us and a lot of these people these you know especially the younger generation I think thrown the the the th the th th th th th th th th I th I th th I th th is th is th is the the the th is the their their their the their their the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the is is the is the is the is the is the the theeeeeeeeeeean. thean. tean. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee as like the coolest thing ever. And you could just see, just like with video games or anything else, getting sucked into there not wanting to come back. But I also think there's going to be content creators and podcasters. And like you guys said, businesses and people who are like, okay, well, it's just like social media, right? We use social media to reach people to reach people. I I I I I I I I the m the m the m the m the m their people. I their people. I their their their their their their their their their. I th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. But I th. But I th. But I th. th. th. th. th.. th.... I th.. I th. I th. I th. I th. I. I. I th. I. I. I th. I th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I also also also also also also also also also also tea. I also also t tea. I also also tea. I also also also tea. I also also also also thea. I also also also also throooooverse and I mean I can see some people are probably going to do it for me I don't I don't ever see myself representing myself in the metaverse like I feel like maybe it's

Starting point is 00:59:11 something you want to go experience but I also just have no trust of these people or these companies that are making these things like they're literally going to be transplanting in a way your another world and I don't know it's just I every time I see it like I see it the video game store whatever the oculus now and it's like man I remember being a little kid and the idea of virtual reality being the coolest thing ever the coolest thin the world today the coolest thi today the toys to a today. I'm the today. I don't know I mean do you thin't think you think you think you think you th. th. th. thin, you thin, you just thin, you just thin, you just the. thin, you just the. the. thin, you just thin, you just the. thin, you just the. thin, you just thin' the. thin'. the. the. thin' the. the of the of the of the of thi. thi. thi. thin, thin, thin, thin, I remember thin, I remember thin, I remember thin, I remember. thin, I remember. thin, I remember. thin, I'm thin, I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the the the the the the the the the thin, I'm the the the the the the toda. the the the the toda. the the the the the the toda. the of the of the of little little. th a special tin flow hat podcast only in the Metaverse before he answers that you have kids Sam the ghost and ninja go in the Metaverse you're not going after them you're not gonna be like let's see what they get the hype about I mean it's a real it's a real hard spot man because I know what the metaverse represents right

Starting point is 00:59:58 but you know you've been on Snapchat that shit is like yeah see I don't think it's much as fuck I had to delete the podcast the app because it like the stuff on there was like really gross man I'm like what if fuck is this man and you and me it's Snapchat won't let you report shit like I saw stuff I'm like why is this on here man and it won't oh is it mean but it won't let you go oh this is like inappropriate shit. And it won't do it, so I erased it. So I don't know what I'm gonna do because I pride myself in that, you know, along with Rogan and that Desquad crew, we were kind of social, we were Hollywood rejects,

Starting point is 01:00:36 even though Rogan was on Fear Factor, but like a lot of us went to podcasting because the internet, I mean, because Hollywood wouldn't work with us. So my question is, what is my base going to be, right? Am I going to be the guy getting the 20-year-olds listening to me? Am I going to be like Sebastian, Man of Skelko, whose crowd is like a fucking years old? And you know, they're not, they're not podcast people. I mean that with the the the th, I th, I that th, th, that, th, that, th, th, that, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I mean, tho, tho, tho, I mean, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho.eeoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... tho, tho know they're not they're not podcast people and I mean that with all love because he's crushing it but you know so that's

Starting point is 01:01:07 that will be the question I do not see myself going in there and here's my other argument what about Travis Scott the metaverse when they did that Travis Scott fortnight he was performing and they were all watching him from somewhere else what if comedy became that where it's a comedy say oh it's all it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is the the the the th is th is th is th is th is that that that that that that that's is is. that's is. that's is. that's is. that's is. that's is. that's is. that's is. that's that's that's th is is is th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's. that. that. that. that. that's. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's became that word? It's a performance. I already hear comedy say. Oh it's all right. No, it is already in there. They do, uh, oh shit. One of the clubs in New York does a regular, a standing thing in Oculus venues, uh, now called meta venues. Uh, yeah, it's already. I remember this from like back in the day, there was a thing that came out like way in the early, you know, this, this, this, this, this, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the thi, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one one one, one one, one one one one, one, one one one, one one, one one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. the, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, of social media when that thing, maybe 2005, that thing, second life came out. And I remember playing with that, and it just, it's just like you have an avatar in the

Starting point is 01:01:49 other world and you can fly around, you can visit places, you can spend money with all this kind of stuff. But it was still like you're playing a video game basically, but I definitely remember that feeling of like, oh, they're trying to to create, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, for me as a journalist and people, I know that people in our community, the other journalists and activists, we're always trying to think of how do we reach more people, right? Like we do plane flyovers at the beach.

Starting point is 01:02:11 We got articles, you know, articles, documentaries, podcasts, and podcasts, I'm tto go into the Metaverse and broadcast Truth if possible, right? I'm sure it'll be sanitized and filtered from people like us, but let's imagine you could go there and for a while it's free and you can host a virtual newscast or whatever and you can, you know, you know, host a virtual newscast or whatever and you start getting all these people tune in their, more people than you. More people than that. propagandize people's minds as you will in there we're going to stay out here and I don't know. That's the argument we had with the grammar or not argument but that's the discussion we had with the guys at least I did with

Starting point is 01:02:48 the guys on Gramerica who they want yeah yeah grammar they want to abandon YouTube and these other platforms not even try to have a presence there to kind of lure people out to places like Rockfin and and you and you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that thus. that the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. that's th. th. that's th. th. th. thus. thus. thus. the the the thus. thus. thus. thus. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that control, you know, and freedom. And I think you've got to fight on all fronts that you can. Well, my whole thing will be with the Metaverse is that if everything's done correct, there will be counters to the Metaverse. Just don't seed that territory right away. You know, I just, what I think is it's going It's like for the metaverse to grow It's gonna need what YouTube needed which were outlaws to grow it

Starting point is 01:03:30 And that's probably what will happen early adopters early adopters Growing it and then it will get so powerful and then they'll know it's like people like us in their spedding truth and then they'll try, but then some will create a counter to Facebook and Metavers and it may not never never never never never never never never never th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th th th th th the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th what the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the thuth and then they'll try. But then some will create a counter to Facebook and Metavers. And it may not never get as big as the Metaverse, but people will start to open up their eyes. They're like, hey, what's going on? We, here's the whole thing, and this includes my children. It's like, if I do my job right, I'm going to raise them them them them them them. Mom probably won't want to hear this, but I'm going to make them learn to question everything. Okay? Not like be the point where you're miserable and you're living, you know, fucking under a rock, but like, question, no, don't buy into everything. Question everything you see, especially in the metaverse. You should question everything you see. I don't know. I have faith in humanity, dude. I feel like, you know,

Starting point is 01:04:25 we've always seen where like technology is try to take things over and I just feel like in the end it's going to all work out. But, you know, again, I won't black pill it. But, I mean, like, I think the metaverse is how they're going to fucking the herd. They're going to ship all these people who can't compete into this area into the Metaverse where they're never going to reproduce. And they're just going to slow-dysers. There's no viruses in the Metaverse. There's no viruses in the Metaverse. There's no climate change in the metaverse. Like you're not harming the planet if you stay in the metaverse. It's better for the planet. It's better, you know, we won't be harmed by viruses. The only other thing I would add, you know, sorry cut you off there, Sam, is that it, I think it's a mistake for us to think about the metaverse is one place just

Starting point is 01:05:11 like we don't think of the internet as one place, right? Maybe there will first be a Facebook thing or whatever, the ultimately community trying to float the idea of like hey we need a decentralized cryptoverse or meta you know decentralized or whatever you want to call it the idea that like it's decentralized land yeah yeah exactly so take take the cons that keep it decentralized right like if that's possible so I mean I think there will be people who do create alternatives like you're saying um if zoom isn't fucking up with us right now I want to talk about your doc that I loved and it was like a big thing for me because it kind of opened my eyes to the FBI and it was uh who will find what the finders

Starting point is 01:06:00 hide. Have you guys seen this? It's fucking great and it really does break it. To the point I want to get you on, I want to get you on conspiracy social club because Brian Callan is the best. I love him. I hug him. He's a wonderful dude. But he can't come to grips with that. There are people. And I think this could be applied to our politicians right now and our leaders who are actively working against us. And it seems to be, that's what happened with the FBI, whether it is this Russia gate thing, whether it is the anthrax scare of 2001, the Vegas shooting, you know, this Parkland shooting, there seems to be an FBI connection to so much and like a really great example now is the finder. So can we get, can you tell us a little bit about your doc and what you discovered? The finders cult and all that. Yes, thanks Sam. So I mean, this is something that if anybody, anybody who's been around, I think conspiracy circles, YouTube, whatever, long enough before

Starting point is 01:07:07 sanitation happened, probably came across or heard the name the finders at some point. Like I'd heard it vaguely. I found a few videos about it over the years, but they were like five-minute summaries of like, hey, there was this cult that got it exposed in 1987, these two men traveling in Florida, that got exposed in 1987, these two men traveling in Florida with some children who were described as being dirty and bug bitten and all this stuff. They got arrested with the kids. It became a national scandal. There was accusations of Satanism and pedophilia. And then in a week later, they said, whoops we made a big mistake. Nothing to see here. These today, their of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, the, the, the, th, th, th, thi. th, thi. thi. thi. th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the, the, the, the back to their original moms. Everything's good. Big misunderstanding. These are just weird hippies. You know, I'd heard that kind of five-minute summary in a couple of different videos,

Starting point is 01:07:49 but around 2018 when I was doing my last tour, and as I said, I was in Florida and I visited Jeffrey Epstein's house, I was working on that documentary, and I started to kind of into the finders. And it just, you know, I can really say that when I was doing this investigation, I don't know how to put it other than I feel like I was being guided because I think I'm a pretty good investigator, but I mean, information was just, like, sources were coming to me, information was just being headed to me.

Starting point is 01:08:14 I was just discovering so many things maybe this is irrelevant, but the more I dug into it, it's like, holy crap, this is even more explosive than anything about Epstein. There's even more evidence of a cover-up than any other case we can think of, but it's just been totally buried in the last 30 years and forgotten. So I was in Florida and I realized that one of the original founding members of the Finders Colt, who was involved in the whole, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thoombunne, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, the thin, thin, and, the thin, and, the the thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, tho, th, th, Tala in Gainesville, and I was just passing through that area and I went and met up with him and Shows with my girlfriend of the time and I was like hey, we're gonna go sit down and interview this guy He might be a pedophile like he's been accused of it, but we're gonna give him his chance to share his story, you know Doing real journalism, right? For real, and we went to his house. to? thr of th r r r r r re tho. tho. tho. tho. thin. thin. thin. to to thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. tho. tho. to their their thoooooooom. their their thoom. thoom. thoom. to go. to go. to go. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. th. th. th. th. th. thrown. the. the. the. the. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo him for like an hour. And at the time I didn't really know much about the story. Like I said, I just started to dig into it, but I was like, this is a good opportunity. I'm going to film this.

Starting point is 01:09:09 When I get done with Epstein, I'll get back to the finders. So I did the upsteader documentary the different details and I have a whole story about where the name of the documentary comes from, I can tell you if you want and a few moments. It's really just like this weird rabbit hole of strange shit on the internet. Yeah. I basically just decided, like, okay, I have enough material here to put it into a documentary and that became who sourced and you know available. I also I will say and I'll send you guys the links to share this out if you want but I put

Starting point is 01:09:49 out the entire finders archive on what, what is it on mega the download website so my entire file with all the police documents, all the records, all the interviews I did, my complete interviews with the finders memory, like everything I have is available for free online. Hopefully more and more people are downloading so it stays alive. But basically what I found is I started to investigate this, is that initial story I told you guys. They get abreasted you guys. They get abreasted their story.

Starting point is 01:10:14 They're just a big investigation. They start realizing that the Finders, they had bases in DC, just outside of DC, coincidentally, within a mile of comet ping pong, which is connected. Come on, man. Come on, man. They had a farm in Virginia. You know, they had a farm in Virginia. They had all these different properties around the country. And so it set off this huge investigation. You have the customs agents and the Washington Metro Police Department going to raid their

Starting point is 01:10:47 apartments and their buildings in the DC area. You have the Tallahassee police who arrested the men who started investigating it and they start interviewing the kids. And you have the Virginia State police going to the farm. So there's at least four different agencies involved. My camera down switch. There we have big. I'm going to switch real quick. So that. Uh, there we go. You guys pick up there. Cool.

Starting point is 01:11:06 Still looks good. Cool. So you had, you had, like, you have four different agencies all involved in, and, you know, reporting on this case and documenting it. So we have all those, um, those files now except for the, the customs agency is still holding them after 40 years. But basically what I found is I found out that when they started rating the different properties, they went to this warehouse outside of DC

Starting point is 01:11:30 that the finder's owned. And there was a US customs agent named Ramon Martinez, who he did a report on this. He wrote a report for the customs department. And in there, he says that he described seeing pictures of naked children, instructions on how to buy children from China. There was a room where you could clearly tell they were filming something, you know some sort of dark room where they had camera set up.

Starting point is 01:11:56 He also said that at this time, again this is 87 that they pretty much already had Wi-Fi wied internet set up. Whoever these people were, they were highly connected. They had, you know, early super internet. They had instructions that the police found there on how, like, instructing them to take the kids and go elsewhere. Instructions on how to avoid the police. They found passports from different countries like Soviet Union, Vietnam and elsewhere, which at that time in 80s and Cuba as well, you know, heavily restricted. So just all kinds of shady things. Ramon Martinez does his job. He goes on there, files the report.

Starting point is 01:12:29 And there's, I found old, all the old newspaper articles, I found one picture of them walking out of the warehouse with the bag of evidence. And it was never seen again. Ramon Martinez went back to atry to get you know some more of the evidence to view it again and he kept getting stonewalled and then eventually he was told by another person this is what he wrote in his report that he was told by another agent of the Washington Metro Police Department that the investigation had been closed and that had become a CIA internal matter. Oh man. That was kind of like you know what the heck is going on right he started to the to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. This is is is is is is is what is is is what is what is what is is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is what is. This is. This is. this is. this is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is th. th. th. th. th. th. this is th. this is this is this is what is what is what is what, what do you mean? And basically, he continued to, so that's like 87, right? The CIA shuts it down, we know, but publicly, they're like,

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Starting point is 01:14:02 And then in 1993, it actually led to a second investigation. The story wouldn't go away. Ramon Martinez kept making noise. Congressman started speaking out about it. And so they had the Justice Department do this big investigation to find out, was there some sort of cover up, you know. And of course, they cleared themselves of any wrongdoinger saga. 1993, totally over with, everything's good. If you still question it, you must be some crazy person. It's just part of the satanic panic of the 1980s, right?

Starting point is 01:14:29 And then by time I hear about it, 2016, 1718, I decided to track down Ramon Martinez, the customs agent. I found the Toby, uh, Toby, Toby, who was the right-hand- in his own words of the founder of the Finder's. The founder of the Finder was this man named Petty. He comes from Air Force intelligence. His whole story is that he was like an Air Force General, but then he retired and he never had connections with them again and he just became a show. He totally severed his connection though. He had nothing to do with him after that is the story. But then we find th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, he was a CIA front airline. His wife also worked for the CIA at a different point, just all these different connections that you are really difficult

Starting point is 01:15:10 to dismiss. And he was known for like trying to create these different kinds of cults. The whole thing about the Finders itself, which many of us theorized, this is like in the 60s when there's these different groups going around, the finders was a unique one. They weren't like some hippie drug cult. In fact, they were like very much against that. They weren't straight narrow, but they were like, if you're in the fighters, you got to be prepared to do things. And it's all a game, right? So they called the, that's his name, Marion Petty, the game, the game, the game, the game, the game, the game, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very very very very very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very very very very very very very, very very very, very very very very very very very very, very very, they were, they were, very very very very, they were, they were, they were, they were, very, very, very, very, they were, they were, very, very, very, they were, they were, they were, they, very...... they. They. They. They. They. They. They were. They. They were, very. They were, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very. tasks. He'd say, go find a borough gold and a red towel. Go to San Francisco, talk to a bald man, just all kinds of things that seemed totally random. And he would send them out on these tasks

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Starting point is 01:18:29 There is strong evidence for child trafficking. There is strong evidence for connections to intelligence communities. The first Tallahassee report, when they arrested the men in Tallahassee and they started to question the children. The children had never seen phones or toasters or any kind of modern technology. They seemed totally clueless and they claimed it's because they were like the beginning of unschooling, you know, free schooling the kids and just, you know, the kids were, they totally claimed like we were trying to free them from society and Babylon and this and that, but the kids had an eight and days. They were all their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tod. They were today, today. They were their, today, tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were tot. They were they were they were they were, they were, they were. They were, they were. They were. They were their, their. They were their. They were their. They were their. They were their, their their today. They were today. They were kind kind. They were kind. They were kind today. They were kind kind today. today. today. today. They were today. They were today. They were today. They were tod part. They examined two of the kids and again this is in the Tallahassee police documents that we have now publicly available that says that one of the boys that he couldn't hold his bowels in most likely because

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Starting point is 01:19:57 Because I think this is, ah, I think this is like, is it back? Is it back? It's back now, but I'm a little worried that's gonna, but... Basically, you went through all this and, because I know we got two more points, I'm just good, we're just covering real quick so that we don't lose you, we get this out. So basically the finders show that there is intelligence connections to, I mean, we it right now with with Epstein and intelligence connections and now we see with the finders intelligence connections. We've seen so many people that Hillary worked with have intelligent connections and then there, then we see child sex trafficking. Do you think that this child sex trafficking part is just an initiation into the circle power. I mean I think that the finders is one example but it's it's literally so

Starting point is 01:20:49 prevalent it's hard to imagine that it's it's not a part of their operation right and I do want to just add two briefings Sam to that I know I think I was cutting out a little bit but I able to contact him and find him. He initially agreed to do an interview with me. And again, he sent me an email saying, leave me alone, I'm dumb. And what he did say in the email was, he said, I have no faith that anything will ever happen to the people that I know who did this. So he confirmed that he still stands by his word and what he said happened back then that he witnessed, you know, these pictures of naked children, he witnessed like all this stuff about organized crime, like

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Starting point is 01:22:25 lucky to be alive at the moment, but they destroyed his career. Also I found out that in the 90s, 48 hours the TV show when it interviewed him and they were going to do andrew him and they were going to do anthe thr-o' thinne and to to to to their and to to the the. and thin, and thin, and thin, and the and the and the and the. And the and the and the. And the, and the, and the, and the the the the the, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the he the. the. the. the. the. the. the an the an thean, he he thean, he's tean, he's to-a. And tean. tean. tean. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. to. thea. thea. thea going to do something about this. He's like, but if nothing happened before, what good's he gonna do if I talk to you? You know, it's kind of what he told me. And then the other thing, last thing I'll mention on the Finders, is I was just, again on tour and I was in Florida and had been three going to release it next week, but he was pretty pissed at me. He's like, how dare you spread these internet conspiracy theories? But I just said I only have two questions for you. He let me sit down and I asked him, basically, what I just what I just told, you know, I said, hey, how come you said, oh, that just must be a disgruntled officer. And I said, OK, well, what about the original Tallahassee police documents that show

Starting point is 01:23:26 penetration of one of the trains? He's like, oh, well, did you see later? There was another report that came out and said that that one was wrong. And I was like, OK, so you're saying the full interview out just for, you know, documenting it because this guy's out there, but he still stands by his word that they were not involved in anything, but the documents say otherwise. And you know, I can't, like I told him, I can't make 2 plus 2 equal 5. Like, this is what I know, this is what I can prove, you can say different, but I don't thi to tell. Unfortunately, we're having really bad internet stuff. He's got an upcoming event called the Greater Reset Activation,

Starting point is 01:24:08 and you can find out his website, all the links are in the, will be in the description. And on top of that, he's also a member of the Rockfin family. So I was gonna be like, talk to you by, I remember you are in fact down there. I just subscribed to your channel. You're doing the Lord work work. brother. I wish we could go into the rest of it. But right now the internet is just going, koo, koo, we hit all the buzzwords to upset everybody, right?

Starting point is 01:24:34 China, FBI, pedophilia, you name it, we've done it, and the tech lords are not happy with us. So Derek, we will make sure to do a follow a a follow a follow a follow a follow a follow a follow a follow a follow a follow the tech lords are not happy with us. So Derek we will make sure to do a follow-up interview with you. I mean you're a wonderful, you know, I call these interviews screaming at each other in agreement. It's just one of those where, you know, we see each other in the same, we see the world the same way. I love what you do. I'm a big fan of all of it, your docs. I'm going to grab your book. And I'm just I'm just I'm just the I'm just just just the th. I'm just just just just just just just just just th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the their their their their their th. th. th of all of it. You're your docs. I'm going to grab your book. And I'm just honored that you came on the show and I'm sorry that we have to cut a little short because the internet is really fucking with us. But before we go, please tell them where they can find you. Yeah, man, thank you guys for having me on and I'm definitely down to come back anytime. My main website is the conscious resistance. the. thiii. the conscious. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. I that, that, that, we have that that that that that that that that that that that that we have that we have that we have that we have that we have that we have that we have that we have that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we have that that that that that that that that th. I thi. We that, we have that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that where you can check out my books and my documentaries including the pyramid of power

Starting point is 01:25:26 we didn't talk about that yet but check that out the pyramid of power net that's a 16 part documentary series i'm working on and you mention the greater reset. We're basically trying to counter the world economic forum we're not being blackpil we're focusing on solutions for how do we make it through this stuff? We start finding ways to decentralize and how to get out of the system. So if you guys are looking for solutions, check out the greater reset.org. And maybe we can have you involved in some way, Sam. I would anything you need, brother, I'm your huckleberry, okay? Just hit me up and I would love to help you. And we'll do some more stuff in the future. We'll just figure out what to the the the make it happen. I appreciate you. I love you. I appreciate you

Starting point is 01:26:06 joining us today and guys like I said San Diego show sold up, but guess what? Yep We're at the American Comedy Company December 2nd through the fourth, and I'm bringing how we doy and Chris and F if everything works out, so thank you guys so much tune in. We love you very much. I hope you to try, the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the the th. the th. the th. the to the to the to the the the to th. the tha, the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. tod. tod. tode. tode. tode. tode. toda. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. so much tune in. We love you very much. Hope you enjoyed the show. Sorry about the internet at the end. Trust me, we could have gone for an hour, another hour, but you know, the tech lords are on to us, you know, and we'll do it again. Thank you so much for tune in. We'll talk to you soon. Take care. You're doing your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 01:26:47 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind.

Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #510: Conscious Resistance, Opting Out of the Technocratic State and Finding The Finders with Derrick Broze

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