Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #516: Fairies, Changelings and Weird Bigfoot with Joshua Cutchin

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haft. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:30 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just put my mind. I'm here to get your mind blown. Good! Good! Morning Swarm! And welcome to Tip-Fall, hi, you know I am, you know I'm here to do, I'm here too.

Starting point is 00:00:52 Rock. Yes, we're back in the saddle. The team's back together, joining me as always is the gnome is to love him. What's up? Xavier, you were on Epstein's flight logs. Tell me about it. I was just there to supply the drugs. What's going on with, we don't smoke the sames. Are the kids excited? They're excited. They're smoking and we've had some good guests on. We're about to have some guy that likes to box from Fools Gone Wild, with the same available on Rockford. Any Christmas shows coming up? Like a live Christmas show? No, kicking it for the holidays. All right.

Starting point is 00:01:31 Chilling it. Kind of. Even though you said, even though you said you were slowing down and then, I'll show here. Show there. Yeah, we're going to slow down. We're going to slow down. And on the ones in Tuesday, no moments to love them. Jay nice Johnny Johnny. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. to. to. th. th. th. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. the to. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the thi. to. th. th. the th. the to the the to the the the the the to the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. tode. the. thi. the. thi. to. to. thi. the thi. the thi. the down and on the ones and twos to know him and still love him Jay Nice Johnny Woodard. How are you? Good good brother, this show today I really enjoyed this one It was a right up my out. It was a great show. It was a great show and I needed to come up with something other than to know him as to love him because I said that about both of you. Yeah, so that was very unoriginal. My. My. my. my. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's very unoriginal. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. loves you. You are. Well, that's not true, because I got a number of people in my life who do not love me. Name two. Really? Yeah, I mean, every ex-girlfriend. All right, all right.

Starting point is 00:02:14 That's like three chicks. Okay. You'd be surprised. Oh, Johnny, slinging the d. Guys, hope you guys are enjoying the show but working hard. You know I love the reason I love Tim Fall Hat is that you know we have some great guests on but we also have people we just find random places and it's great and I mean like dude the weirder the better and the episode today was wonderful with that and you know it's like everybody else is doing serious stuff I want to get weird I think it's more fun to to the the the the the the the the the the tip. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the tod today. the today. the today. the the today. the the today. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the is doing serious stuff I want to get weird I think it's more fun to talk about yeah you know

Starting point is 00:02:49 we'll have to just lay Maxwell trial and that's that's important but you know also we'll have a podcast about weird bigfoot and I love that's the best phrase to come out of the show that you're a big foot which I'm fucking down with bro and that's kind of like what the show is a to to to to to to to the to the to to the show I I I I I the show I to the show I to the show I the show I the show. the show. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. that's th. that's that's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's is. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the. the. the. th. th. the. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm down with bro and that's kind of like what the show's about so just know also I'm getting so many emails from everybody I would love to answer you all I'm just like I'm so slam man so if you get an email you send me an email you don't get back to me just know I'm trying man and I'm trying my hardest I'm gonna spend a little time to answer a bunch of emails a lot of you a lot of you to you the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. the try. the try. try. try. try. I to try. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to bunch of emails. A lot of you send me artwork. I can't get back to all of you. Just know I appreciate the effort and I will promise you I'm going to at some point try to go through and email you all. Thank you for your artwork, okay? So that's where we're at. So we got, so I have two more dates left in in 2021. Tampa Bay is this weekend.

Starting point is 00:03:47 It's this Friday night at Side Splitters in Tampa, shows at 10 p.m. It's my last road gig. I hope to see everybody. And if we get enough people there, I'll do more shows in Tampa. If not, we'll figure it something out. Then, following next year, it's getting fucking busy, bro. It's all right come together, okay? I got Buffalo on the 21st, January 21st, 22nd and 23rd.

Starting point is 00:04:14 And then the 10th Fall Hat Comedy Night is back live in Long Beach, where I have Harvel's one of the best places out there. It is January 28th 8 p.m. show there's two shows at night there's an 8 p.m. and then there is a 10 p.m. Swarm Tank news shit saying can I get a sound effect do to do to do to do jay nys is joining us he's gonna be doing some stand-up. So everyone's like, we'd love to see Jay, nice to stand. Well, now you can see him live. He'll join us in the panel show. And these tickets are? What?

Starting point is 00:04:50 Where that? They're all at Sam Triply. their all triple. All tiats about Inventbride. It's a little janky. I'm learning how to work it. The first show says there's only 60 tickets available. There are not only 60 tickets available. There's 160 tickets available. They're already moving very quickly. I would suggest to everybody you grab your tickets early, okay?

Starting point is 00:05:21 So there's BIP, there is a seated, and then they're standing room only. Now, the second show, SwarmTank, everyone's like, if I buy both do I get this discount, I already gave it to you. I knocked off $10 off of all the tickets, bam right off the top, okay? Except for the standing room only, grab your tickets now.

Starting point is 00:05:43 There's another 60 VIP. Then there's another like 23 seated and then the rest of standing room only. Grab your tickets now. You know Swarm Tank. It is where you come. Pitch your favorite conspiracy to your favorite conspiracy theor's. Meet the whole crew live together. Maybe we'll invite off the grid. Ryan to join us. Bring him, let's do it. Get a little weird. Well off-the-grid, bro. It was great seeing him the other one. Yeah, so I mean I want to have off-the-grid. I'm more next year. Let him join us, throw him some cash, and have him come on because I think he adds a fun little weird element to it. Uh, listen, to the t-a are on fire. I'm working on some stuff. T-shirts are fire. What are you working on?

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Starting point is 00:06:46 you had a hoodie, right? Yeah, I had a hoodie with it, which was conspiracy social club. Yeah, but it had a zipper in the middle right? Yeah, I mean, let, you can get the anti-vax vaccine shirt, and that's at Sam Tripoli.com. Well, what, there's a hoodie of it. There's a hoodie. There's a, there. There's a, there. There's a, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the, the the the the the tie.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the.a. the. I. I. I. I of it at Timphohead T-shirts.com. You can get the hoodie of it. I had a conspiracy social club. Oh, did you? Hoody on, which I will. I've decided to put the links on Sam Tripoli.com so people can go get it. You just gotta go to Brian Callan. I'll put the links up. God. So much work to do so much work to do okay

Starting point is 00:07:28 get t-shirt sports show and we're gonna be put out more and more and more and more and more product for you guys to check out we're gonna start working and this assuming Johnny doesn't leave quick enough early next week we're all gonna have a business dinner together I'm out next Thursday okay we're gonna have a leave quick enough early next week, we're all going to have a business dinner together. I'm out next Thursday, so Okay, we're going to have a business meeting to next week and we're going to sit down and work on some more stuff for you guys because we're try Hard hard, hard so hard big year next year. And okay, man, I mean, I gotta be honest you dude Mark Steve's doing a great job booking my premium content. He's doing a great job with it. His podcast is we don't, we don't, my family thinks I'm crazy.

Starting point is 00:08:14 And he's doing a great job man. And the, good guy, that much Steve's. Just like everybody else that works on the show, he's a little crazy. But he's a hustler and he works hard and I appreciate it and he's booking some great guests on my Rockfin Joe. His family's got a point. We're not saying that. Yeah, we're not saying it's not crazy. And we're not saying being crazy. We're just saying he is crazy. And just like me, just like Xavier and definitely, like Johnny. Okay. but just go check it out and

Starting point is 00:08:45 Rockfin.com you have we you have tinfoil have premium content you have conspiracy social club you have broken sim you have we don't smoke the same all of them are there. Zero's on there all of them are there all for ten dollars all times sports talks sometimes well I got a buddy of mine that's doing a show. We should all tho. We should all just do show. We should all just th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th the the th th th the th the th the the th the th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th the thin th. thin. thin. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin the the thin the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the the th the the thin thin th. th. th. the th. to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the thin thin thin thin Zero's on there. All of them are there. All for ten dollars. All times of all time sports talks. And sometimes. Well, I got a buddy of mine that's doing a show. We should all just do shows together and both put out the content. Whatever. I'm down. You know, and big Carl and Josh Denny are doing it and then we'll all do it and we'll just both put it on our own things. So the point. And we'll just. And we'll just and we'll just and we'll just and we'll just and we just and we just both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We're both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both. their. their. their. their. We both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both both. the. the. th. th. th. We. We. We. We're both both both both both both. We. We. We. We. We're both. We. We're both. We're both. We're both. We're both. We're both. We're. th. We're. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We'll. th. th. We'll just. We're both put. We're both put. We're both both both both both both both both. We're both both. our own thing. So the point is this, go check it out, rockfin.com. You can just go to Sam Tripoli.com, click any of those links, grab that as well. Is there anything else? No.

Starting point is 00:09:34 No, the new broken Sam coming out soonish. Yeah, okay. So final thing, and this is me some money to animate my special. I want to animate my special. I think I need about 50 more grand to do it right. Should I do a go fund me? 15? Yeah. What are the go fund me going to get like?

Starting point is 00:09:56 Are they going to get like? I'm thinking about giving them a ta type of shit like if you donate a thousand you go to any free shows you get like a credit in the credits okay oh interesting okay right if you get like oh and the credits yeah there might be even a a better platform there's a platform that a lot of musicians use that I can't remember what it's called but that might be a exclusive t-shirt yeah I'll give them a shit like that yeah yeah a bad idea you know special maybe I'll do that Maybe I'll do that maybe a preview what are you What are you thinking?

Starting point is 00:10:29 I make limited edition of viewing Animating the concepts is what you mean the things you're talking about but the whole thing but so is and you're on stage animated and then it's an animating what you're talking about Yeah, so I'm animated. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. that's. that's. that's. th. to. I'. I'. I'. I'm. I'. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. to. the. the see what I'm talking about. I think that's a great idea. And I already have 20 grand, so I'm going to get the ball rolling. I'm going to take that money. I'm going to put my own money into it, plus what I raise and go, who wants to do it.

Starting point is 00:10:55 And, uh, you could also maybe take an investor on, dude. I mean, like that's just, the first part. I'm going to start the process and I'll just fill in the blank. Can't hurt. But if you want to be a part of it, I'll be putting that out. Let me know if you're interested in helping me raise the money. And we'll figure it out. Maybe I'll do a special pay-per-view screening where you don't pay anything. Because you already put money up, you get to see the first of it. Maybe I'll do something in Vegas. NFT, race some money from an NFT maybe of your... A little greener meat after the viewing? They love that shit.

Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah, so we'll figure it out. Let us know if you guys are interested. Maybe I'll rent out the Hollywood ball and do stand up for like two people. Maybe I'll rent out the Hollywood Bowl and do stand up for like two people. How much does that cost? I don't know but if that's assuming I'm a bazillionaire. I want to see I'm not so close how much it costs to do a night at the Hollywood Bowl? I love it. So that's the show guys. Is there anything else? Not I think we're rocking. We are rocking. Ah, guys. This is a great show big time. It's about fairies. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I. I I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the the the the thin. th. th. th. th. the. thi. that's that's bigfoot, anal probings. It's everything you ever wanted in a tinful hat episode. And you know, Joshua came, drop the hammer of the gods. So enjoy the show.

Starting point is 00:12:17 We go deep, home boy. Here, open your mic. Drink. Drink. Okay, so let's get into it, man. Very excited to mix it up here a little bit. You know, we've had some interesting shows coming up. Hope you enjoyed the last one. Let's get into this one. He is an author.

Starting point is 00:12:37 He's a musician and he's about to go deep on. So very, I'm very excited. Please welcome to the show. Joshua Kutchin. How are you, dude? I'm doing great. It's a kind of a dreary day here in Georgia, but this is going to brighten things up a bit, I hope. We are entering the time where the weather changes now. And it's so funny because we're in Cali and, you know, we're entering the ages where, you know, even for anybody gets a little cold. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, they. to, to, th. th. th. to, to, to, they. to, th. they. they. th. th. th. they. they. they. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. And, they. they. th. th. th. thi. thr. t. t. try. try. t. try. try. today, try. try. try. try. today, try, try, try here but people think that they're coming to California so it doesn't matter like it could be January they'll bring shorts like it's cold dude I mean like you can't walk

Starting point is 00:13:12 around here so you see some dude just shriveling sometimes I mean it was 70 degrees today okay Johnny I'm telling the story right? It's called yes and I just all the girls are wearing hugs anyway, so they're all prepared for the weather right It is funny though when you go out like like I was in San Diego this weekend and all the girls are dressed half naked Freezing like it's like not true. Don't ruin this first struggle is real. Let's still get cold. They'll still get cold. They're like I'm stuck out, but I like I'm half naked. It's great. It's great. Anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways anyways I always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always I always like I always like I always like I always like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I'm like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like like I like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like a a ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and stock a god I'm like a ha and stuck. I'm like a ha and stock out out out. I'm like and stock out. I'm like and say. I'm like. I'm like and I'm like and I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm half naked. It's great. It's great. Anyways back to you Joshua Tell us a little for those who may not be familiar with you Joshua, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where Our listeners and viewers can find you?

Starting point is 00:13:54 Well, I have a website at Joshua Cutchin dot com JOSHU a CUTH I am and a poorly maintained blog there most of my work goes into focusing on the long form stuff, so my different books that I have. I have right now five books that are out. The first one is on the role of food and drink in encounters with all sorts of other entities, so extraterrestrials, Fayfolk, Bigfoot, etc. Second one is on the role of smells in these encounters, the same cast of characters.

Starting point is 00:14:29 And the third one is on supernatural child abduction, and then I have a two-volume series with my friend Timothy Runner all about just weird big foot, so if bigfoot's not weird enough for you as like a giant monkey, we're going into like disappearing Big Foot and phasing Big Food and UFOs and Big Foots, that's what those two books are about. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. That sounds like four episodes. I'm all about that. All those have hit with me, especially weird Bigfoot, which is a great name for a band, right? But I'm all about all of those th th th th th th th th those th those those. So. So th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho th tho tho. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus. thus, th. th. th. Uh, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Uh, th. th. th. th. Uh, thus, thus, thus, thus, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thus, thus, th. Uh, for a band, right? But I'm all about all of those. So I mean, how did you get into this? Where does this all start? Because you have a very

Starting point is 00:15:12 unusual take on all this stuff that, you know, in a couple days, this Thursday, no, next Monday, will be the five-year anniversary of the show and we haven't heard any of this stuff. So how did you go down this path? I think probably fear is what led me down this particular path. You know, I was always like a monster kid into like predator and alien and all those, you know, anything was a creature feature I was all about. So naturally that leads you into, you know, I was kind of late to the UFO game, but definitely led me down the Bigfoot rabbit hole pretty early in my life. And my dad was a, apparently a subscriber to the BFRO, big foot field restrictors, organization newsletter at some point, which I wasn't aware of until I got into this. But, uh, so

Starting point is 00:15:57 I was always interested in these topics. But, course I was approaching it from the extraterrestrial hypothesis angle that we're dealing with physical aliens and nuts and bolts spacecraft. Now, it wasn't until I started hearing stuff about altered states of consciousness and some of the more, I mean, I don't want to say spiritual, because people think you're talking about some sort of Judeo-Christian dichotomy, but the spiritual angles of things that I started to say, okay, well, if that's the case, then I kind of have my foot in the door for some degree of sovereignty if this were to ever happen to me,

Starting point is 00:16:28 if I ever were to be abducted by aliens. So it kind of, I guess, maybe started as a sort of therapy, but I really got into it when I was listening to a bunch of paranormal podcasts, and-law, which I spent on a big footbook, right? And I was reading the, I remember this distinctly. I was reading the big foot book, and I was talking about how, if you took food from the bequeous, which was one of the Alaskan tribe's analog for Sasquatch, if you took food from the dried salmon that it was offering, it was tree bark that was cloaked to look like dried salmon. And if you ate it, you were to stay with the bequist forever. And I said,

Starting point is 00:17:09 oh, that's really interesting. That sounds a lot like, you know, Western European fairy folklore where if you eat food from the fairies, you're trapped in fairy land forever sounds like, uh, it sounds like when you get somebody pregnant. Crap forever, right? So, you know, I was working, I was working a desk job at the University of Georgia and in the summer it was just nothing as much to do. So I kind of wrote a book on the university's time that summer and then, uh, as soon as it was out the next year I said, to thi. th... th. to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to te. to to try. try. try. try. try. try. try. the. the. much to do. So I kind of wrote a book on the university's dime that summer, and then as soon as it was out the next year, I said, bye. And I focused more on my music, which I had put on sort of a back burner,

Starting point is 00:17:53 and have been writing ever since. And it's, I really tend to focus on these sort of folkloric angles of, again, very folklore, but also just the sort of folkloric angles of, again, fairy folk lore, but also just the sort of psychosocial dimension. If you're familiar with Jacques Valle's passport to Magonia, that's sort of like the er text for a lot of what I talk about. And Valle pointed out a lot of similarities between the fairy folk and the UFO phenomena, but I took that torch and I think I'm cheering it a little bit further than he ever really intended. As much respect as I have for him, there's a lot more similarities there than he appreciated

Starting point is 00:18:29 even himself. There's layers on layers, brother. There's layers on layers. So let's get into that. What are the similarities between the fairy folklore and the modern-day aliens from UFOs? Well, you know, some of these are really apparent even just with a the modern-day aliens from UFOs? Well, you know, some of these are really apparent, even just with a cursory understanding of the two phenomena. I mean, you've got little green men versus little men and green.

Starting point is 00:18:54 You have, you know, anomalous lights associated with both UFOs and fairy, UFOs and fairy, folklore. They brandish ones which can paralyze you in both instances. You know, the fairies want to dance in these rings that would leave barren patches on the ground. You have crop circles today which may or may not be associated with UFOs directly, but there's still a connection there. Ferrys dwell underground. You know, aliens today supposedly have these underground hidden bases. But even beyond that, I contend that you can take anything from fairy folklore and find it in UFO folklore or vice versa.

Starting point is 00:19:31 A good example of that is something that really surprised me is the idea of alien implants. You know, this idea that you're abducted and something is put in your head or under your skin to track you or monitor you or communicate with you. And believe it or not, there's actually in, especially in Western, again, Western Europe, Ireland and the British Isles, there's this idea of the fairy blast. And if you look at the word blasts,

Starting point is 00:19:52 that sort of has the same Germanic route that we get blustery and blister from. And the idea was that if you offended the fairies, blast of wind and leave a blister on your skin. And when you lanced it, it would actually, you know, sort of yield all this detritus. So like sticks and twigs and bones and fragments of rock and stuff, which sounds exactly like to me, just an older version of what we're dealing with with the, these so-called alien implants. Even beyond that, are you familiar with Morgellon's disease? No.

Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, yeah. Oh, Johnny is the nerd dork on the show. He knows everything. These are local weather. You've heard of it. It's these people, Sam, that say that they have like fibers implanted in their skins. You know, it's like a medical condition, the mcreened the mainstream medical establishment. Really? Like, what do you mean like fibers?

Starting point is 00:20:47 Like, I mean, it's artificial, it's non-organic, I guess is what you would say. I mean, they call them fibers often. I mean, there are other little particles and stuff, but they say that they're in their flesh. They're like embedded in their skin and they're itching. It's sort of become like part of that constellation of things that people, things that happen that people don't generally accept as true like gangstalking. Like a lot of people who are experiencing gangstalking will talk about more gillans because they've been changed, I'm getting more gallons.

Starting point is 00:21:25 But I actually looked and there's some folklore from, like, Nova Scotia around there, which is the only place that really the, the, uh, you know, Irish fairy lore really survive in the new world is in New England and that one will spot in Canada. And there are stories of people who have these fairy blasts and believe it or not they pull string out of it so it's another connection there. So yeah, yeah. So crazy. All right guys I want to tell you about our friends at Helix man. You know what? Most of your life you spend sleeping and some of you guys don't even think about your mattress.

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Starting point is 00:25:19 So is my conception of fairies like off like I I, I, when I think fairies, when I think fairies, I think Tinkerbell, right? Exactly, Tinkerbell, a little dust. Yeah, a little tiny, tiny chick looking for trouble. Yeah, that's a children's, that's a children's book idea. That I think, I think sort of came about in the Victorian era. I think there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thin thin thin thin' thin. thin' thin' thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. th. thi. thi. thi. to to thi. to to thin. to thin. thi. thi. thi. thin. thi. th know, I think there's some older to some later depictions of some of the fairies in like a midsummer's night dream, a midsummer night's dream rather, with fairy wings. Probably that's tied to older beliefs that the soul could fly, you know,

Starting point is 00:25:57 the tiny little Egyptian baw that you have inside you the little bird with a human head. But while fairies were capable of flight, and when I say fairies, I mean, mostly Western Europe, but really, I mean, you find it on every inhabited continent. People believe these little people and whatnot. Ferries were always attributed to the ability to levitate and to fly, but they didn't really ever have wings. Even that sort of idea of them having short stature, like that was kind of their. that sort of idea of them having short stature, like that was kind of their true form, so to speak, in some senses.

Starting point is 00:26:25 But you find taller beings like, you know, elves and I mean, even if you wanted to expand the umbrella, a lot of fairy law applies equally to things like giants and ogres and trolls as well. So the idea that they're shorttrue. And look, I'm of the opinion that these phenomena do exist and they can appear however the damn well please. But traditionally the idea was that they were, that they were much taller, capricious in the sense that like if you offended them,

Starting point is 00:26:56 it would be bad. If you please them by leaving out food or milk, then they would be happy the their their their their their their their their their their they they would be happy and they might even clean up your house but you did not right you did not mess with them are they gendered were they gendered traditionally they're not binary oh interesting they're pretty much pretty much they are gendered and they still have that same same they have that same sexual impulse that you find running across you know the alien abduction lore as well to the extent that like the motivations the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. the. th. they're they're they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the. the the the. the. the. the the the. the. the the. they're they're they're you know, the alien abduction lore as well. To the extent that like the motivations that people say are behind alien abductions were oftentimes behind ferry abduction as well. I mean, you know, the idea that their race was dying and they needed new blood,

Starting point is 00:27:34 like that's the exact same thing you find when people would steal babies and leave, you know, the ferry babies behind is because they wanted to get the human, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, th, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, the, they, they, they, throooooooooooe, the, th human bloodline incorporated. But as far as what they were, no one really knows. There are a lot of different hypotheses on the table. Some say that they were elemental spirits. It's mostly an idea that comes out of the theosophy, Helena Blvasky and her crew, probably originating in Paraselsus earlier. But so Elementals demoted pagan gods, you know, the Christianity came in and said, oh, it's not, you know, your gods are crap.

Starting point is 00:28:10 And they became the fairies. Or, you know, there's a strong argument to be made, which is sort of the line of research that I'm pursuing currently is that prior to late and associated ferries with the dead. And somehow they were involved in either taking you to the other side or you became a fairy after you died or any number of things. Well I find it very interesting, something you said a demotion, like a demoted god. Like imagine that conversation right. It's like listen Bisabaaba, you know, that we're changing around here. It's like working at ESPM where they get the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old the old, the old, the old, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I'm thi. I'm thi, thi, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I, th. I, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. I, th. I, th. I's, th. I's, th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm ta. It's, ta. It's, ta. It's, ta. It's, ta. It's, ta. It's, ta. It's. It's, ta. It's. It's, ta. It's, around here. It's like, it's like working at ESPN where they get rid of all the old guys and they bring

Starting point is 00:28:47 all the new guys. You may have noticed we've been using you a little less. Yeah. The words come down. The only constant. You're the god of butter churning and people aren't really doing that shit more. Yeah, that'd be a hard talk because I heard the god of butter churning was nice person. That's a hard conversation to have.

Starting point is 00:29:06 You know, the only constant in the universe is change and, you know, we're going a little different direction. How would you like to be the god of Hanjo? Pretty similar. You know, it's kind of funny that you mention that, like, I think that sometimes fiction authors, you know, I know that it's a big idea in conspiracy culture and even an alien abductee or euphology to say that they're a limited hangouts where they're actually revealing more secrets than that, you know, that we're supposed to be aware of, and I think that obviously does happen

Starting point is 00:29:38 some, but I think that some fiction authors just kind of happen to land upon a pretty parsimonious explanation just by merit of their own imagination. And one of those people I think is Neil Gaiman with American gods. I mean, I think there's a lot to the idea that gods who are relevant or these forces that are relevant obtain their some sort of power and relevance and, dare I say, even corporeality, they're sort of sustained by by belief itself, almost like a tulpah or something. It's interesting. Oh, that's interesting. So physically you think they wouldn't exist without that.

Starting point is 00:30:17 You know, I go back and forth, man. I have talked to enough people and have enough people I call friends who have experienced these things and people who are completely sane, sober, rational individuals. They just had a conversation with a dear friend of mine who has got stories. He's a deer? A dear friend of my own. He's a dear friend of my own. A beloved friend of my own.

Starting point is 00:30:43 He's the god of 16 points. Who has, who has these stories, it'll just make your hair stand on the end. And he's like one of the kindest, most down to earth, sensible, talented people I've ever met. So trying to reconcile that is always difficult. But yeah, I think that, I think that the real linchpin for the discussion is that we have our idea of physical and non-physical all backwards. I think that that line is not as finite as our current culture would like us to believe. And maybe that's you know, maybe that's an ulterior motive on their part. Hey guys, I want to tell you about our friends at Super Speciosa, that's right. Super Speciosa, they are the best,

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Starting point is 00:33:52 We're hurling through space? Is it a realm? Is it a holographic universe? You know, I always say, and based on a lot of what you're talking about, is that we are literally, it's like every movie ever all going on at the same time, right? Every dystopia ever going on the same time right now. That's right. And like why, why is, and second part of that is,

Starting point is 00:34:15 why can only some people see this and others can't? Well, okay, so the first part of your question, I'm gonna try to unpack this as best I can. I'm kind of agnostic as to what this is. I have a problem with the simulation theory because it's just, you know, it's just the theology for nerds in a lot of ways because they want to say, oh, it's a computer simulation and like, but that anthropomorphizes this idea so much. I mean, if we're living in a simulation, then what is outside of that simulation, by definition could quite well be so unlike we have so unlike anything we have any reference point for, right? So why do we assume that it will look like the way that we construct computer games or something, right? That just doesn't really make as much sense to me. I'm growing into the idea that, you know, we are God or the universe trying to experience itself. Yeah, me too, God. Because, I mean, that's another thing that runs through a lot of these encounters,

Starting point is 00:35:20 is this idea of oneness and of, you know, in Carl Young's words, totality. And you ask me something else, why, thiiiiii, why, why, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that's that's that's that's thi, thi, that's that's that's, that's, I that's, I that's, I that's, I that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, that's thi, thi, that's that's thoanananan, that's that's that's that that thanks, that, that, thi,, you know, in Carl Young's words, totality. And you ask me something else, oh, why some people can see it and others not. It kind of gets a little bit darker. I think that, I think there's a certain threshold you have to reach, and I think some people are able to get there better than others, just like some people are better at writing or drawing than others, but you can kind of hone those abilities and be able to do those things better. But at the same time, I think some people have those abilities thrust upon them. It's a troubling aspect of a lot of these phenomena that runs through again, very folk

Starting point is 00:35:59 war all the way through alien abduct you or that trauma seems to play a role, more specifically the dissociation brought about by trauma, which is the same reason that you have people who have near-death experiences are often highly psychically active afterwards and they'll have a near-death experience and then they'll have alien abductions, or vice versa, people have alien abductions,

Starting point is 00:36:17 and then, their toe, their, their, their house, it's super common that nobody ever talks about really, at least in pop culture. So I do think that something about that dissociative state is really important to be able to perceive outside of yourself. And you know, you can get there with meditation. It takes a while. You can get there with psychedelics. It's a lot faster. It might not stick around as often, but I think that that aspect of dissociation is key, thiiiii, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, thi, thi, thi., thi.eeat, thi.eat, thi.eat, thi.eat, thi. Soooooooooooomoomoomoomoom, is thithat that aspect of dissociation is key. And if you look at, I had in his discussion with someone who I'm quite sympathetic with on the alien abduction topic, but he was saying that, you know, our studies reveal that 80% of abductees didn't experience

Starting point is 00:36:55 any trauma in childhood, no sort of abuse or anything. I'm like, okay, well, first of all, dude, 20% is really fucking high. Yeah. That's way higher than the national reported average. And then once you lump into all that, like, how many of these people realize that they were traumatized? How many of these people, you know, are forthcoming about their trauma. I suspect that the incidence of trauma in terms of people who are experiences much higher than we would assume. But that's an unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate unfortunate. to un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un. thuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is the. the. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. th these things is this idea of trauma leading to dissociation, which can lead to accessing these other realms.

Starting point is 00:37:28 It's the shaman thing, right? Yeah. The shaman is, depending on the culture and using shamanism as a broad term. The shaman is somehow traumatized or selected by the spirit world. They might be hit by lightning or have to undergo a serious intense illness as a child, but it all sort of opens them up to this greater world. That's so interesting. It's just so interesting. Like how many people actually have stuff happened to him, how many report it? Isn't that Red Band's bit about dolphin rape? Like how many people the amount of actually happens versus how many people came out of actually actually happens versus how many people go to the authorities like magic only cops for that but the point is it would you would you report it if you got abducted if I got abducted I mean it all depends on what happens in the abduction right I mean if also I mean to whom are you who are you reporting like move on to the sheriff what's he I mean would you at least go on a I mean, to whom are you reporting? Like, move on? What are we talking here? Yeah, like, what are you going to go to the sheriff?

Starting point is 00:38:25 What's he going to do? I mean, would you at least go on a forum and be like, hey, guys, I think this would happen to me? Or would you just straight silence, like, hey, I'm kind not say I got fucking anally probed. Well, and then you have the issue of, you know, certain communities being more open about this. I mean, do you think that any African-American who's been abducted is going to open up to that about, open up to about that to a wide move-on investigator? Especially when those, especially when those communities tend to quantify these in terms of spiritual warfare rather than this you know sort of materialist physical aliens and nuts and bolts spacecraft kind of thing. Are you into the nuts and bolts part because I'm more of a guy

Starting point is 00:39:13 I'm more of an interdimensional and that the nuts and bolts are all US government or or any government you know advanced, advanced weapon tree and technology. I think the real stuff that's going on and I'd say it all the time and I'll say it again. This is like whatever this is, everybody's come to get some, right? It's like there's just all these interdimensional people.

Starting point is 00:39:40 I always say it's like, WrestleMania, and this is the Royal Rumble, and they're all like, It's the ant people, it's the grace! Oh my God, it's weird Bigfoot, not normal Bigfoot, but weird Bigfoot. Is that like weird, Bigfoot? Is that like when Hulk Hogan did Hollywood Hogan, but you're like, you're still Hogan, but you're weird, right? Yeah, man, I think that you can't look at any, especially the stuff that's coming out now. I mean, about, you can't look at this without the context of being in a cold war with China, you know, I mean, the amount of people on Twitter who are into UFOs who throw that data point out the window just boggles my mind.

Starting point is 00:40:21 To say nothing in the fact that there's an outstanding history of the US intelligence apparatus weaponizing, you know, UFO reports. Everything. Well, using, using the UFO community sort of, to sort of crowd source, you know, to crowdsource foreign technology in our skies. But you know, at the end of the day, we're talking about this, you know, before we started. It's this technological fetishism of like, you know, oh, you know, it's people from another planet in spaceships. And maybe one day we can get there too.

Starting point is 00:40:53 And it really does undercut the fact that you have a spiritual birthright, I think, that you are more than flesh and blood. And that's what the phenomenon really entails. You know, if, if, if, if, if, if UFOs are physical craft holding, you know, flesh and blood aliens, then we have to answer for why abductees have these profound synchronicities that manifest in their lives. We have to answer for why abductees report seeing dead loved ones in UFOs. We have to answer for why abductees report seeing dead loved ones in UFOs.

Starting point is 00:41:25 We have to report why abductees have poulter-guise phenomenon in their homes afterwards. And these all point to a spiritual phenomenon more than a physical one. And you know, I, I find it really frustrating because, you know, a lot of the people who aren't into this line of thinking will say, well, obviously it's aliens. Why would they cover it up if it was something spiritual? Well, that's that's been the role of authorities since like the Dionysian cults. I mean, like it was, you know, a power structure comes in and wishes to undercut spirituality. And at the end of the day, which, which up ends your world do more as an average American? The idea. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the the the the th. It's the the the the th. It's been. It's been. It's been. It's been the the the th. It's been. It's the the the the the the ththat your life looks like close encounters of the third kind or the idea that your life looks like the Iliad? Like which of those is weirder, right? I don't even know what the second one is, but I'm saying it's the second one.

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Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah. Like the tunnel, you know how when you die and go into light? That's how you pass through the, the, to this dimension. You know, it's funny that you mentioned this because I was just writing the other day about, I thi was I always get them mixed up John Lear or Roger Lear there are two ephologists but but there's an idea that the moon was like a soul collector and you find this you know there's a certain threads of extraterrestrial belief euthological thought rather that the aliens are somehow harvesting our souls this is a big thing someone you would probably get a lot of out of talking to is Nick Redfern he's written this this the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the moon. the moon. the moon. the moon. the moon. the moon is the moon is the moon. the moon. the moon. the moon. the the moon. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the moon. the the moon. the the moon. the a big thing. Someone you would probably get a lot of out of talking to is Nick Redfern.

Starting point is 00:45:06 He's written this book called Final Events. He wrote it back a while ago, I think maybe 2010. And it's all about this group in the government called the Collins Elite, which is sort of this loose confederation of people who were in places of power. And that was sort of the conclusion they arrived at too was too too too too, too, th, th, th, th, tho, th, th, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiiii. thi. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, they arrived at too was that the aliens were somehow harvesting your souls. Of course I'd be remiss if I didn't say that that was a thing in fairy belief too, especially in like Scotland, the idea that every seven years the ferries would collect souls to take down to hell. But it's, I know, a version of us tagging a polar bear or something. The idea that these things are interested in our souls comes up time and time and time again and it's not always positive. You know it's it's just super interesting dude. And you know what else I was thinking about is

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Starting point is 00:46:49 here, put them on Rogin, make these people think this? It's all part of, in my humble opinion, Operation Blue Beam, which is to use this, these aliens as they're so superior to us, we stand no chance. Again, which fits right into this whole vaccine virus thing, we've got to comply. We got comply because they got all this technology. And that is, honestly, going back to what Joshua was talking about,

Starting point is 00:47:21 it's all about making you not understand how powerful you really are. Everything leads to that. You are powerless. You have no chance against us. And that's not true at all. And like I don't know man what's going on social. Like our whole notion is that the elites are so smart. There are everything that happens is being controlled by them. I don't believe that. I like, dude, it's so hard to get, like, like, think, th th th th th th th th th, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. controlled by them. I don't believe that. I like, dude, it's so hard to get, like think about the show. Does anyone really think about how many people work on the show? The three of us, Dana, Robin, Mark, okay, plus my web guy, that's seven people.

Starting point is 00:47:58 Good luck keeping them all on the same page. So now you're talking about humanity. You're going to keep humanity all stock in lock stop in step. And it's just it's I just personally find it to be impossible. Now it's very easy when you you you blitzcree people very quickly to get them all with doom and gloom and scarcity to get them but eventually parts are gonna start wiggling off well that's what I that's how I feel about like 9-11 9-11 in the beginning everybody was united and after why but it was like we're going off like hey what the fuck really happened and now in real time we

Starting point is 00:48:37 are watching the awakening to the power structure of humanity in real time. And we see people on tour still holding line, but how many of them are just the dead internet bots? It's crazy, dude. But back to what I want to get into this because I'm all in to that there's more than just what we're seeing. Now, how could be I don't think, I also think that moving people into the inner city's was done purposefully to disconnect us from nature, to get us to believe that there's too many people in the world, that everything's going to crash and burn, right? Agenda 21, agenda 2030, all this stuff, get us in, bombard us with a global warming.

Starting point is 00:49:28 And there is pollution, but, and there's people I love that are just, they are so great at questioning authority until it comes to the environment, right, or NASA. Like, they'll question the vaccine, the question, but the minute you go into like, hey, they'll be like, the government's full of shit, the military industrial complex is full of shit, big pharmaceuticals full of shit, but NASA wouldn't lie to us. There's no way they would lie to us. They're above it all. They're good people, and they only want to help us escape this prison planet, right?

Starting point is 00:50:01 Like, it's like such an interesting thing. But I'm really into like, you know, that there's so much more. And I think the reason you don't see people like Bigfoot's as much in the big city is because you're not, that's that's done purposefully. Yeah, there's um, you mentioned Bigfoot in the big city. I have a couple of examples of Bigfoot the big foot coming out. It's like big foot meets sex in the city. Big foot the big foot. Big foot big, the big foot, big, dot, that. Imagine big foot on grinder. Oh no. Yeah, it's called bears. You would do really well. It's like another bear, bear misidentification. There you go. No, I mean, I think it's really interesting, you know, that idea about we weren't meant to live in cities. I mean, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:54 I think putting us, corralling us into these concrete jungles, it does separate us. And look at the, you know, the dogpiling that we got. I mean, it's not as bad as it used to be. but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, but like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the dog piling that we got, I mean, it's not as bad as it used to be, but like the dog pile of, you know, new atheism and stuff back in the early 2000s, it's just, it's just, I think it created an atmosphere that did cut people off because you kind of need to get, not as much as like traditional flesh and blood, big footers would have you believe, but you do need to kind of get out in the wild and willyness of the world before you, before you can really appreciate even the possibility of these things. I think like 80% of Americans live in the cities and you know, in the mean,

Starting point is 00:51:37 in the meantime, you've got this, you know, all these relics of this mountain builder culture that's out there that people that idea about. And I would contend the mountain builders were probably a lot more closely aligned with the spirit world, especially if you compare the old world and new world monuments. I mean, it looks like these are technology to bring down the spirit world that we all sort of arrived at independently. You know, some people will say, oh, it looks like the Atlanteans must have come. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. I, th. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, thi, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thr. I's, thr. thrown. t tttoday. tttoday, ttoday, tttoday, t's some interesting threads to pull on there and some interesting things. But, oh yeah, that's a thing.

Starting point is 00:52:08 I didn't know that one. Dude, I could talk to you. Lamurians, yeah. Yeah. But, but my contention is that no. It's the same idea build the bow and arrow. It's just like, hey, it's a good fucking way to shoot a deer, right? So I think that like, I think that sort of independent arisal of some of similar technology

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Starting point is 00:53:06 to you for cures, right? So on a symbolic level, yeah, I mean it is. But of course, that's the same reason why we see, you know, these ideas of alien mountain bauntains. Mountains were traditionally, their their places for the dead. There's, there's, there's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to to to to to to to to to to toe, to, to, to, to, to to, to toe, to toe, to to to to to toe, to symbolic. So. So. So symbolic. So symbolic. to symbolic. to symbolic. to symbolic. to symbolic. too, tha. tha. too, too, the. their. their. their. their. their. their. their symbolic, their. their symbolic, their. their. to symbolic, to symbolic, to symbolic, to symbolic, that suggests that Valhalla is actually derived from the words for like rock mountain. There were there are places for the dead. They are ferry homes all throughout, especially again especially Ireland in the British Isles and hills and mountains and stuff were places where fairies live. The words for hill and fairy she can be used interchangeably. And now today, by coincidence, this is where alien underground bases are. And to me, it's just all talking about this idea

Starting point is 00:53:50 of things congregating around mountains, which again, ties into older ideas of the axis Mundy, the umbilicus between our world and the other world, you're actually closer to God when you're on top of a mountain. So, there you'd to be to be to be to be other realm, the overworld instead of the underworld if you will. Do you think they're melted buildings though? That's what we've... No I don't think so. I mean I think that at the end of the day, yeah I walk a weird line right? Because I'm I'm a Christian and I also believe in all this strange stuff and I think that that all the strange stuff exists but at the end of the day I think that if I dig into a mountain I'm just going to find a bunch of rock. I think that again it's that idea of

Starting point is 00:54:30 the real and the unreal, the real and the imaginary being sort of a false dichotomy. I tend to prefer the word when talking about stuff like UFOs and fairies and imaginable. So sort of like a Carl Jung collective unconscious idea. These things are from your head, but they're not in your head if that makes any sense. So interesting, dude, right? It's so interesting. And like, I think people can go crazy trying to figure this out. And I just like, that's why I always say, don't participate.

Starting point is 00:55:02 Just observe, man. This stuff will eat your fucking lunch. If you don't, no, seriously, if you don't distance yourself from the stuff, I've seen it firsthand. People get into this and they just obsess over it, and they go down these rabbit holes and they never come up for air. That's one of the reasons that I enjoy continuing to be involved in music is because whenever I get frustrated with music I retreat into my writing. Whenever I get frustrated with my writing I can retreat back into my music. But I have other things going on which I think makes you not only more interesting but I think it literally kind of makes you a

Starting point is 00:55:31 better person on a metaphysical level too. I have this argument with my musician friends all the time after last year. I'm like if you can't see how fucl you're fragile your occupation is after after after after after after after after and not like create or double down on a side hustle that you have I don't know what you're doing man I totally agree on that bro I tell everybody it's so interesting as I talked to other comedians about diversifying your revenue streams they some people can't come to grips they're so invested in one way and it's like that identity you know well it's also that what they're so invested in one way, and it's like that identity, you know? Well, it's also that what they're into, well, I get that, but like, it's like you'd have to be an idiot not to see like, you're worshipping at a dying altar. Like, the key is like, you know, it's like,

Starting point is 00:56:19 I always said women were really great at relationships because a woman kind of knows before anybody else if it's going south. And they'll, oh, dude, I'm telling you man, they're really good at getting that next relationship, just ready to go. So it's like, it's like that video game where like the layers kind and you just step on to another layer. Oh yeah, they're really good that. So it's like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, th. th. th. th. that, that, th. that, th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, th. that, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th good that. So it's like, you know, in Hollywood, it's like, dude, you could do all this stuff you want to try to sell a TV show.

Starting point is 00:56:47 What does it mean anymore? Yeah, I mean, the paycheck's not gonna be the same and all that stuff. It's great that you want to do that, but you should have multiple revenue streams coming in and multiple projects going on in this new media that people want, which is peer to peer. How many people though do you know that are artists that have that artistic temperament that just don't have that brain for business or you know, or you know, promote it, self-promotion, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:57:14 Most of them, yeah. There's even people like that. We know people that are super into stocks that won't fuck with crypto. Yeah. Just because they're they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're so they're so they're so th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. thi. thi. tho. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thooooooooo. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that dying hard on fucking stock like, that's my ride or die. Your ego is not your amigo, bro. That's from AA, dude, your ego is not your amigo. But it's very interesting. And so it's like, you always got to have, I always say like a red band in your life, right? Like that, like for me, it's like Dana.

Starting point is 00:57:40 Dana's really great and organizing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to to to to to drive, to drive, to drive, to to th and th and th and th and th and th and th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi, thi great and organizing stuff. Yes, she can drive some people crazy once a while. Get off the mic, Johnny, okay? You drive people a little crazy once in a while, but you gotta have it. Here's a weird thing, right? Adult film stars are like that. I know a lot of adult film stars. The ones that don't have that guy that builds their website, does all their content, tho'. The ones that guy who's just his whole thing is like,

Starting point is 00:58:06 crank out their content, those are the ones that throw. Or like strippers, the strippers with the boyfriend end up doing better than the stripper that single because she just was waists all her money. Yeah, so it's like, it's like going to kind of have some organization, but in understanding that the game changes, and the game changes, but we're off track on that because I just, I have a monkey playing symbols in my head, okay?

Starting point is 00:58:33 But I wanna get back to your book that you were talking about, and it's very important, and it's, I find this really interesting. You wrote an entire book about the role of food and drink encounters with humanoids. What does that mean? Well, so for whatever reason, I've always had this interest in fairy folklore. And I was aware that that food taboo that I mentioned earlier that if you take food or drink from fairy land you'd be trapped there forever. And when I saw that thing about the Big Flood, I was like, okay, so this is a this is a worldwide belief

Starting point is 00:59:13 phenomenon so to speak. And sure enough it is, you'll find this in like, you know, Australasia that if you take food when you go to the land of the dead, you'll be trapped there forever. A lot of, a lot of, you know, anthropologists like to point to the Persephone myth, which, you know, Persephany was taken into the underworld and when she was rescued, Hades gave her these pomegranate seeds that were cursed and if she ate them, she'd have just to stay with them forever. And sure enough, you sort of what you do when you take a look at that as being something, when you look at that as being the origin source for this belief, you sort of paint the reductionist into a corner, right, because they have to admit one of three things either, because I mean, obviously this myth didn't make it to the new world, right? There's nobody in Alaska talking about Persephone and you know, 1,000 AD. And it didn't make it to Australasia either.

Starting point is 01:00:05 So either there was a global civilization that was that was transmitting these myths, okay? Or the collective unconscious is a real thing. You know, as young, positive, that there are these ideas that we just share as a species, also really weird and not conventional, or the idea that when you interact with something from the other world and you take food, there's something to that idea. It actually has an objective reality.

Starting point is 01:00:28 So one of those things has to be true, and each of them is not the consensus standpoint of anybody who's orthodox, right? So I found that really interesting, and again, with this idea that that fairy lore and UFO lore are similar, are there examples of this? And there are. I mean, even if you don't want to cite the, you know, the manifold examples of people being given different types of food and drink in alien abductions,

Starting point is 01:00:54 there are injections, there are ointments, which basically serve the same function. You know, one of the interesting things that I found was that a lot of these drinks that people are given, they're given at the end of the experience and it will often induce amnesia. Oh, snap! Well, sure not, but here's the interesting thing. In in Greek mythology, if you were to go over to the other side and come back, before you were reincarnated, you had to drink this drink this drink called Lephe, which was sort of the milk the milk the milk the milk, the milk, the milk, the milk, the milk, the milk, the milk, th., th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-a, thr-a, thr-nigh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th., th., th., th., th., th., th., th., th., th. th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, the thi, thi. Well, the the the thin. Well, thrown. throwne, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, they, thrown, thrown, throwne. Well, throwne. Well, throwne was sort of the milk of forgetting. You would forget your past lies and that way you could reincarnate. And if you didn't drink that milk, then you came back as a seer or a profit. So it's interesting that you have these things that alien abductees will report.

Starting point is 01:01:37 They'll report enhanced psychic ability. They'll report all sorts of other things that tend to tie into that older mythology as well. You know, you'll find other interesting things. You know, the things that I found mostly were that people would mostly drinks, overwhelmingly they would get drinks from aliens, right? And they tend to be described as juices or milks. And then from there, it was like grains and breads and then like at the bottom of the list was was meat and stuff like that. And interestingly enough, the closest thing that I could find that corresponds to that on earth is the sativic diet. And in Ayurvedic Hinduism, there are different ways of approaching what you put in your body and the most beneficial diet for your spirituality is called the

Starting point is 01:02:23 sautasic diet. There's the tomasik diet. There's the Tomasic diet and the Rajasik diet. The Tomasik diet is like junk food, right? And the Tamaic diet, sorry, the Tamaic diet is like, you know, spicy things. So you need a little bit of that in your life. But the thing that all the profits and the holy men would commit to would be this Satvik diet, which had a focus that lines up exactly with the types of food and drink that people get in these encounters. You know, milks, juices, and grains and fruits. It just lines up quite perfectly. And then again, you have this idea of like are these alien abductions? Are these abductees people who are being being tagged, like we would tag animals? Or are they a way of the universe sort of forcing a shaman quota on us, right? Like we don't have shamans anymore.

Starting point is 01:03:12 The personal religious experience was handed over a long time ago to a priest's class, at least in the West? And what if there's a quota that the universe, God, whatever you want to call it, what if there's a quota that has to be met, that we aren't fulfilling? And then this power says, okay, if you aren't going to, if you aren't going to interface with the spirit world, I'm going to make you interface with the spirit world. And that's kind of where I am on a lot of the stuff now. I think it's going on? There's aliens out here, roofing motherfuckers, man. There is an element of that too, 100%.

Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, you know, there are some instances where it seems like the food was administered just before or after a sexual encounter with the aliens. At least you don't come home hungry. I mean like, hey, I got pro, but man, I'm full. Or it's, you know, alien plan B, right? You know, oh snap! What if you really just love the alien food and it just, you know, you couldn't get enough of it and that you know you can never have it again, you know, that would be terrible, wouldn't it?

Starting point is 01:04:14 That would be terrible. What if you're just like, oh, I'm gonna have to get probed again, but that food is so good. Yeah, you're just going out waving and field, you know, just say, hey, hey, what's up, guys? That literally happens, though. You do have people who are, I mean, this is something you're hearing in near death experiences a lot where people are like, I went to this other place and once they get back into the yes, idea that the Elamades, I believe they were Danish or Dutch, I can't remember. But anyway, from that part of the world, these fairy maidens would give you wine, and you weren't supposed to drink the wine.

Starting point is 01:04:57 And then one of the myths that I found, this night drank the wine, and he was able to return home. So seemingly it refutes that idea that idea that idea that idea that idea that idea that that that that that that the idea the idea the idea the idea the idea the idea the idea that I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the night the night the night drank the wine and he was able to return home. So seemingly it refutes that idea that you're trapped in Fairyland, but even though you returned home, he was so enraptured by the taste of the wine and the women that he actually went insane. So there seems to be a possibility that this idea, this older fairy idea of once you eat or drink the food, you can't return home in the sense that you can't return back to the way that you were. Life has changed for you since then completely. It's like conspiracies man, won't you see? You can't unsee it. You can't unring a bell. Yeah, you can't unring a bell. I totally believe in that stuff, man. So what about smells, man? We've got smells. Are aliens smelling? So I have a book called The Brimstone Deceit, and people look at that and they think it's like a Joel Austin book

Starting point is 01:05:49 or something, right? Because it sounds kind of like it. But there is a consistency of smells that you find all across the paranormal. Now the book doesn't just deal with the smells of brimstone, which we now today call sulfur. It deals with a lot of the the the the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the smell the book doesn't just deal with the smells of brimstone, which we now today call sulfur. It deals with a lot of other smells, including like the smell of ozone. It's pretty common with UFO encounters.

Starting point is 01:06:11 But across, again, across all these different modalities, ghosts, demons, UFOs, Bigfoot, fairies, you find smells of entropy, oftentimes the smell of sulfur, or more specifically sulfur compounds. Sulfur doesn't smell unless it's heated. So when people say it, it smells like sulfur, it smells like rotten eggs or whatever, they're talking about one of several sulfur compounds.

Starting point is 01:06:36 So the smell of gunpowder is sulfur dioxide, the smell of rotten eggs as a hydrogen sulfide. And that hydrogen sulfide smell you find time and time again. What I find really interesting about it, you know, most people will say, oh, that means that UFOs are demonic. And what they don't really understand is that the idea of sulfur brimstone smells being attached to like demonic forces, has never really been about the fact that the demon stink. It's always been about the fact that sulfur has long been treated as a as a cleansing agent.

Starting point is 01:07:09 You know, you can look at just any number of medications that are sulfides and sulfates, you know, skin, acne cream and stuff like that. It's an antimicrobial. And even in the Bible, you'll find, you know, God's cleansing with sulfur. Interestingly enough, there's sort of an ozone connection here too. The ideas of thion and phaos have the same, you know, theological origin and the idea that people were, the smell that people noticed after lightning strikes was called sulfur because

Starting point is 01:07:39 of the idea that was conflated with ozone. But what's really interesting to me about sulfur, right? Is that if these things didn't want to be noticed, they pick, and they have any sort of control over the way they smell, they pick the worst smell possible. Because, well, I mean, not only because it stinks, but because we're chemically wired to detect it like 0.5 parts per billion, which to put that in perspective, it's like a drop of ink in a semi-tank truck. And that's half that like it's half that quantity, right? So it seems like these things want to be noticed.

Starting point is 01:08:14 And sort of the line of thought that I looked into in this particular book was the idea that smell is a powerful tool. Because it's not just, again, not just these these br these br these br these br these br these br the br the br the br the br the br the br the br the br the br th th, th thine thine the br thine thine thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thrombs thi, thi thi, throwne of thrown thi. of of of of of of of of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of ink of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of thi thi thi tool. Because it's not just, again, not just these brimstone, these sulfur odors, but also other odors that are reported as well. It's a powerful tool for memory because unlike me telling you something, I can't force you to process those words, right? But if I, you know, had you smuggled your girlfriend's perfume from 11th grade, like, you couldn't help it. Like that, those thoughts, those emotions, they come in your mind. I was getting out of this couple. We were in an elevator. I was, we were going to the gig.

Starting point is 01:08:54 I, I, the elevator closes. This couple's in. We're talking about some just let their dog throw up in the elevator. the elevator. the their the the the the the elevator. the elevator. the elevator. the elevator. their their their their their their their their their their their couple. their couple couple. their couple. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I their th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I they they come. I they come. I they come. I they come. I they come. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I to. I to. It. to. tooooooooooooooooooooo. I tooooo. I they come. I they come. I they come. I the in the elevator and didn't clean it up right they just left it there. So we come back man this couple when they left I don't know what it was man but they smelled like cocaine. They just I smelled the I had I flew back the memories of the smell of coke you know that smell that's kind of like it's the best way. Like a gas well you're doing bad coke okay smells like gasoline right I'm talking like this kind of chalky feel that you you associate with cocaine right the whole elevator smelled like it which is weird because unless they're smoking crack

Starting point is 01:09:41 and they didn't look like crack ads I don't know why it would smell but I definitely smelled that dude it was. It was just teachers they were teachers they were the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. their. th. the smell. the smell. the smell. the smell. th. th. the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It smells. th. It smells. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th and they didn't look like crack heads. I don't know why it would smell but I definitely smelled that dude It was they were just teachers. They were teachers with chalk on their pants. Did your nose get watering? No, my nose is touch. Um, I find that interesting dude and like why it's so funny because you said there's other entities that have good smells like pink the the fairies right? It's you get roses a the roses. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their they're the their their their their they were they were they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were. It's they were. It's they were. they were. they were. they they they were. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're they're they're they're they're smells like pink lemonade out there like the fairies or anything? You get roses a lot. I think, oh man, with me, okay, hold on, I'm gonna look this up. I, yeah, you get roses a lot. Actually of all people, Dennis Kucinich, you remember him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he told Shirley McLean that he actually saw a UFO

Starting point is 01:10:28 on his balcony and it was accompanied by this magnificent smell of roses for like 10 minutes. Yeah. So yeah, you get this. And what's interesting about that specifically is that I found that you could break down all the odors that people report. Of course, you can't survey everything. There's no database for all this stuff. But you get a feel after you've read your thousand and first report, right?

Starting point is 01:10:49 And what I found was that a lot of the odors that people reported fill into one of two camps. It was either hydrogen sulfide, so the fart smell, the rotten eggn-nig-nobacco that smell, , the, the, the, the, the, the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, the th, the thi, the thi, thi, the thi, but you've thi, but you've thousand, the the thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, the the the the the the the th, the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thousand, thigeminal stimulants. Now what trigiminal stimulants are? Your trigiminal nerve is actually the largest nerve in your face. It's that feeling that you get when you sniff vinegar or you sniff windex or epsom salts is a good example. So in that epsum salt, we have something that is able to bring people. And interestingly enough, hydrogen sulfide, it was recently proven probably 10 years ago now, that in carefully monitored doses, hydrogen sulfide can put rodents into a state of suspended animation. And of course, the space company is really excited about this because maybe it could somehow send us to Mars or something.

Starting point is 01:11:40 But what I see in that is you have these two smells, hydrogen sulfide, these trigiminal stimulants. One can put you into an altered state of consciousness. One can bring you out of the altered state of consciousness. So I've posited that if people report hydrogen sulfide, that's the smell that they remember before they were put under into the altered state of consciousness, where these throw at their minds. And when people remember these trigiminal stimulus, that's the smell of them remembering as it ends. That's an idea. Because I do think that altered states of conscience has play an incredibly important role in all this stuff. I think most, a lot of it happens in some sort of other in-between

Starting point is 01:12:18 realm where your connoctus, you know. I'm not sure if I'm thuished I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was thuished I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I was s I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I was s I was s I'm not sure if I was s I was s I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing I was standing if I was standing if I was standing I was that I was that I was that I was that I was that I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was s I was s I was sure I was sure I was sure I was sure I was sure sure sure sure sure sure sure sure sure sure sure if I'm not sure if I was standing sure sure sure if I was standing I was standing if I was standing if I was standing if I was standing if I was standing if I not sure if I was standing in Whitley's Feabre's bedroom on December 25, 26, 19886, if I would have seen him be abducted or a lot of, or if I would have seen him just go into a trance, but I don't think if it's him going into a trance it really diminishes the experience in any way because I think things can be in that realm and still be equally real. Are there any other like are ghosts? Do ghosts have a smell? Do any of those have a smell? Bigfoot smells like shit, right? No, come on. Bigfoot, yeah, bigfoot smells like, yeah, bigfoot smells like shit. Interestingly, bigfoot seems to be able to turn that on and off. I've lots of stories where it's where they have the smell and it goes away immediately or they don't have the smell. the smell of it's th. It just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just s. It just s. It just s. It just s. It just s. It just s. It just s. It just s. It's s. It's s. It just sm. It just smit. It's. It's. It's sm. It's smells. It's smells smells smells smells smells. It's smells. It's smells smells. It's smells smells smells smells. It just smells smells. It just smells smells. It just smells. It just sm. It just just sm. It just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just s. the smell. the smell. the smell. It just just just just just just just s. It just s. It just s. It just. It's s. It's s. the. the. It's s. It's s. It's just. It's just. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. like people, you know, the flesh and blood big footers will be like, oh, it's good, you got a smell gland

Starting point is 01:13:05 or a shit gland. But you know, I mean, apes really don't have glands like that that they can turn on of their own volition. There's some evidence that gorillas can when they're afraid or something or alarmed, but the idea of switching it's a skunk, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a s like, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a sa, a they, a they, a they, a the the the the the the things are all coming from the same imaginable alter state of consciousness soup, then the idea of switching the smells on and off it will seems to make perfect sense. But back to your original question about the ghost smells. Yeah, plenty of them. I could have written the entire book about ghost smells, really.

Starting point is 01:13:41 Because ghosts can smell like kind of anything that people are associated with in their lifetimes. Cigar smoke, colognes. The the problem. The the problem. The the problem. The the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoes. the the the thiou, thiou, thiou thiou thiou thiou thious. Then the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thia thia thiaughts.oooooesus.ea thi thi thi thi threats.ooooooooooooooooooooesesu.s. thia anything that people are associated with in their lifetimes. You know, cigar smoke, colognes. The problem with a lot of these ghost stories is that these smells can actually seep into wood and under certain atmospheric conditions, moisture, pressure, whatever, can be released again. So, you know, I'm not trying to diminish anyone's experience because I do believe that the spirit world in that sense can communicate through smell. And I think that there are some smells that like, no, that wasn't coming from the mantle piece where it had soaked in 20 years earlier, like this was actually a spirit coming to me and giving me that smell. That is a skeptical argument that you have to entertain. And again, this idea of hydrogen sulfide of stinky, of happens all the time around entities.

Starting point is 01:14:26 Oftentimes though it's interesting to note that the negative things smell bad and the good things smell good, which again I think implies another level of control that they have over these, their presentation. What if farting is just something coming through a portal? Well, it's something coming through a portal. It's, it's the ghost of your lunch, you know. Okay, so earlier in the day, earlier in this interview, you've mentioned switching out humans for channelings. We have heard versions of that,

Starting point is 01:15:04 not, you know, a much darker version, demons trying to come in this world through still births, switching in and taking over the body of the baby, stuff like that. What is it channeling? Oh, a changeling. There we go, sorry about that. I'm illiterate. You're good. Yeah, so I think that a lot of the child abduction myths probably originate with Lilith, who was sort of an esoteric, Judaic figure who was supposedly Adam's first wife. There's evidence to suggest that she was actually derived from an older Mesopotamian, I believe, named Lamash too who was

Starting point is 01:15:45 known for taking children, taking babies. But the changing phenomena specifically runs across, it really is worldwide, you'll find it on every inhabited continent, and even you'll find it in certain wild man accounts in certain continents, like in other words their version of Bigfoot will take a baby and replace it with one of their own babies. We're most familiar with it in in in, in a, in their their babies, in their their their their children, in their children, in their their children, in their, in their, in their, in their their, in their chiiii. their, in their, in their, in their, their, their, their cha, their, their, their, taken, taken, but taken, taken, but their children, but their children, but their children, but their children, but their children, but their children, their children, their children, their children, their children, their children, their children, their children, in their children, in their ch. their chiiiiiiiii. And, in their chi. And, in their cha. I today, in ta. I ta. Cha. Chanan, ta. Chananan, ta. But, ta. Chananananan, thea. But, thea. But, thea, the in other words, their version of Bigfoot will take a baby and replace it with one of their own babies. We're most familiar with it in lore from Ireland in the British Isles, specifically Ireland though. The practice was incredibly widespread there.

Starting point is 01:16:15 And the idea was that you would have a perfectly healthy normal baby, and you'd turn around or maybe you'd have fin the fairies in some way. And the next thing you know, th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the next the next thi the the next the their their tho thin, their their the their the, the, their the, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toe, to be to be toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe, thin, thin, their, thin, their, their, their, their their their their. And the next thing you know, this baby would suddenly be scrawny and thin, and it would constantly wail for food, but it would never be full and it would be sickly, and it would eventually pine away and die. And the explanation was that the fairies had taken your child and replaced it with one of their own. And exactly what it was and the reasons for this are varied. Sometimes they would be elderly fairies, sort of living out the rest of their days in a hospice situation in human homes. Sometimes they would be most, you know, most often it would be a fairy baby that would, that was being brought there to be nurtured by the mother. So it was sort of a twofold benefit, right? The fairy baby got to have human milk, which actually had nourishment,

Starting point is 01:17:06 actually had essence to it, so to speak, as opposed to fairy food, which was a sham, while the human baby would be stolen away to fairyland and incorporated into the bloodline, that dying race is the idea that I was talking about, which you'll find again, all across alien abductions where they're, we need your genetic material because our race is dying. Sometimes it would also be a stock or a fetch, which is just a name for like a log that was that was cloaked with fairy magic glamour. That's where we get the word glamour from.

Starting point is 01:17:34 It would be cloaked with glamour to appear like a human child. And the way that people would deal with this after they visited the fairy doctor or their witch or their seer woman is they would basically torture the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their the after they visited the fairy doctor or their witch or their sear woman, is they would basically torture the child until the fairies would intervene and rescue their substitute and replace your child. Of course, I have to bring this up because I feel like it does a disservice.

Starting point is 01:18:00 While I do think that this does play out on some sort of metaphysically real level, this was obviously in some cases describing children with developmental disabilities and infanticide was really prevalent in Ireland. There's a book called on Most Diabolical Deed by the scholar named Elaine Farrell who looked at infanticide of children three years and younger. Just that, just that bracket. And over just a 50 year period, 1850 to 1900, just in Ireland. So Ireland, children three and under who were murdered 50 years. And she found 4,645 cases of child murder.

Starting point is 01:18:39 Jesus. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, why do you even do that story? Like, imagine that's your job. How depressing was that research be? Oh my God. Yeah, right? This is by far my darkest book.

Starting point is 01:18:52 It's a thieves in the night. So like, I think that this plays out, again, I think it's plays out on some sort of spiritual, metaphysical level, but you kind of to have to have, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.e, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, they, the, to me, as someone who looks at the similarity between fairy lore and UFO lore, is that you can find a pretty clear correlation between fairies or rather the changelings themselves, their description big head, big eyes, scrawny bodies, appearing list, list and lifeas and the alien hybrids that people are often given. This is part of the alien agenda is they're trying to hybridize the hybrid the hybrid the hybrid the hybrid the hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid hybrid the hibibibibibibibibibib., they'll they'll they'll their, they'll they'll they'll their, they'll they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, to, to, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be they.e.u. I've, too, too, too, too, too, too, I'.e.e lifeless, and the alien hybrids that people are often given. You know, it's part of the alien agenda is they're trying to hybridize with human beings.

Starting point is 01:19:28 Well, oftentimes they'll be given a hybrid child that they provided the genitinic material for. What's even more interesting is you remember, I said that the stock or the fetch was actually a log. That was a log that was that that was clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo clo. That that that that that that was that was that, your mileage on them may vary. Roger Lear and Darrell's Stones, I certainly have problems with their outlooks. But in 1998, they found that these people who were to report holding these hybrid alien babies,

Starting point is 01:19:52 if they were to show their hands under a black light would have this purplish, pinkish, fluresses, purple, pink, black light, chlorophyll. So we have that coming back full circle for these older ideas of the fairy stock, the fairy log, the fairy plant being a human child substitute. You brought that up. Have you seen the missing 411? Yeah. They mentioned, they mentioned that sometimes the kids go missing and they talk to like a Bigfoot or fairy and they've checked the spot and the kid just randomly comes back. Is that something like interdimensional or it comes back to big foot? Well, I mean, so I've often said, well, two things.

Starting point is 01:20:32 Number one, I think that there are some core experiences in David Politis is missing 411 research that are genuinely anomalous. There's a lot of things that I think he didn't necessarily do his due diligence line, but returning to those core experiences, those core accounts. I've often joked that the missing 401 one stuff is like a paranormal warshack test, right? So like whatever you're really into underground alien bases, it's you know the government doing that. Tunnels, yeah, a big foot. You know, so I realize fully well self-awareness here that when I say it closely corresponds to fairies and sort of fulfilling

Starting point is 01:21:13 my own designation of those cases. But it really does, I think, point to something that we would have understood as fairy lore because if you look at the cases that you mentioned, lots of times there's inclement weather that moves in. There are examples where the child or the missing person is found in a place that had been searched thoroughly time and time again. And that does imply that there's some sort of interdimensional aspect or some sort of, you know, in the weather theat. the weather thing, I mean, if it's aliens are saying that aliens can the the the the the the the the weather the weather DARPA style? I mean, maybe they can, but that's something that's something that ferries could do. Ferries would travel on storm. Ferries were most active on rainy and windy days, supposedly. So I think it does speak to something I'd like to take this point to reiterate. I don't think it's fairies and I don't think it's aliens. I think it is the same thing, and I think that we really lack the tools to describe whatever

Starting point is 01:22:06 this thing we're interacting with is. I'm working on a hunch nowadays that it's something to do with, you know, the realm of the dead and that the paranormal was kind of all about death and dying in the dead, but you know, I'm not saying that aliens are fairies or aliens. I think it's, you know, in the words of Terrence McKenna, stranger than we can imagine, not stranger than we imagine, stranger than we can imagine. But yeah, the missing four and one stuff is a great example of that because a lot of them are children. You know, a lot of their colors like red,

Starting point is 01:22:36 which were colors that would offend the fairies, You're fucked, bro. Fuck today. Yeah, you're good. Why do they want kids? There's a lot of fairies in LA. Why? Yeah, they are. Almost hot. Why are, why do they want kids? Some are why are they always interesting kids? And why is it when they ducked like rednecks, why is it but stuff? Well, um, so to the first question, um, I don't to to to to to to to to to to toe, to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe, to, the first, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. th. thoooooooooomorrow, tooomorrow, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the first question, I don't know if I really have a really satisfactory answer. You know, I mean, kids are pliable. You know, if you've read, I think it's Arthur C. Clark's Childhoods End, where the aliens come down, they look like the devil, and they're explaining that, oh, we're focusing on your children because they're, you know, they're mutable, they're changeable. I don't know. It points to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I they're, you know, they're mutable, they're changeable.

Starting point is 01:23:26 I don't know. It points to, this is one of the harder books to write because the subject matter is just so dark and it ties into, you know, I'm not as afraid of, you know, knock on wood. I'm not as afraid of supernatural predators. I totally agree. And, you know, regarding my children at least. And, you know, there's that, there's that line of thinking. There's, there's a line of thinking that you can just, you kind of see it. I mean, you kind of see it whenever there is a major cultural change, right?

Starting point is 01:24:02 You start indoctinating the children first, and then they all get on board, and that's how you have this massive, large-scale societal change. So maybe it's somehow related to something like that. It's unsettling, though, to say the least. Now, on a more positive spin, the sort of realm that I'm looking at now, with the idea, right? Dig myself out of this dreary hole that I mean. Oh, no, no, sorry. You're killing. You're doing right. You know, if the paranormal is all intrinsically about death, as I'm sort of looking at with a book,

Starting point is 01:24:35 then by extension, it's got to also be about life as well. So that sort of explains or goes to some degree of explaining why the paranormal is always so sex and death obsessed, not just death obsessed, but it's also all about hybridization and spirit unions and stuff like that. It's just interesting, man, I think there's so much more layers to what's going on. I think so much is being exposed right now. And I, you know, I, uh, I mean, you can get lost in trying to stop people from hurting children I think everybody should focus on that but it's something you can get you know it's an abyss. It's it's like the darkest thing that you can possibly look into I mean

Starting point is 01:25:20 and especially once you have kids because you know you have the kids and it's not just the idea that you have an insight into how much more you love them, but also you look at how damn resilient they are, you know, and how sturdy they are and how strong they are. And then you think about like what people have to do to actually physically hurt a child. And it's like, I can't, I can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I, I can't, I, I, I, I, I, I can't, I, I, I, th, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I. And, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I can't, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. tho. th. tho. tho. th. that, tho. that, that,, you know, I mean, I think there's no lower form of human being than someone who can hurt a child.

Starting point is 01:25:52 And you know what this, this, just Lane Maxwell thing going on, when you're seeing how many women were helping men hurt little girls. Like, I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Like, I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Like, I mean, this pursuit of power and access to fame, fortune, and power, that you're willing to allow, like, kids to get hurt? Like, you know, I mean, we haven't even heard if, if these, if these things involved, really, like, dark, dark, like, you know, you know, I mean, we haven't even heard if these things involved really like dark, like, you know, the stuff that we've heard that Hillary was involved with and stuff like

Starting point is 01:26:32 that, which is hurting children. That deep, like that dark, dark shit, you don't think they just capped those girls off? Those are the ones that survived. You don't think they caps them off on Ireland? We haven't even heard that yet. We haven't even heard anything about that. And I find it really hard to believe that it was just some dildoes. It was just some regular sex. That shit ain't gonna be in the trial. No, no, I'm not even saying trial.

Starting point is 01:26:55 Like, we've heard that about not expecting the trial, but the discussion of it. Yeah, because the craziest thing about the trial is like, oh, there was a Dildo and a massage table. I haven't heard that. You're a little paying attention to the true. No, because they saw videos of the, you know how the cops showed up the house and they recorded the whole thing and th............ And they. they. they. they. they. they. I. I. I was. I's. I's. I's. I's. they. they. I's. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the craziest. the craziest. their. their. the craziest. the craziest. the craziest. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. things. their. things. things. things. their. things. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. there was a table they brought the table into the jury where he would get his massage and it's just like very like it's fucked up but it's like this goes way deeper than that I'm sure they were doing way way way deeper than that it just goes to like I mean I mean I wish that I wish that anything that doesn't expose someone or put someone currently alive at risk. I wish everything else would just be

Starting point is 01:27:46 made public in that trial, but we're never we're not going to hear about half of it, I'm sure. No, we're not because it's the highest levels of power. The people that are the highest levels of power. The people are the people that are trying to protect though. Like, why? Who are these people? Because they're the, they're the epicenter of power. Prince Andrew. Lex Wessner, I mean, like, dude, that guy's part of the mega group. And that leads to, that leads to Israel everything. I mean look what's going on right now Like imagine if Hillary would have won and then

Starting point is 01:28:28 Her winning they cleanse on on the island and they figure something out She can't be president You'd have to somehow get rid of her how she how she how she married to some guy that was all about But yeah, but she's in the presidency that investigation goes nowhere Well, and she could also get away with jettisoning him so quickly. She could have been like, you know, it's been a sham marriage this whole time since Monica. She could cut him loose. If only we had a journalistic apparatus that could pursue this.

Starting point is 01:29:00 Exactly, man, exactly. Well, I think independent journalism is alive and well, and I think they're winning, dude. I think, I mean, have you been watching Jimmy Doar, you can't get more left than Jimmy Dorr? Have you been watching him, bro? I mean, what he is just, he could, he could host his own tipole hat with the stuff stuff he's putting out right now, and he hates being called a conspiracy thorough. I always tell him just lean into it bro when you like dude when you give it no

Starting point is 01:29:27 power they got no control over you. Well even Trevor Nog just went on there on Modena and said like hey yeah I know I'm not I'm not I don't support him. No I don't like I'm just saying even he's like kind of like holy fuck like you no that's that's that's everything that's like everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything everything that that that that that that's like that's like that's like that's like that's like kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind that's like kind kind that's like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like kind like that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like kind. that's like kind. that's like kind. that's like kind. that's like kind kind kind kind kind. that's like kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. that's like kind. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's like. that's turning and it's even some of the guys in like the comedy community Like they all do safe danger and now that it's like out that this thing you're gonna start seeing everybody acting like they were against it the whole time No, no, you'll know well, no, but it's like I'd rather them all come out and understand what's going on. I mean, it's just creepy. But yeah, and this war, though, is this battle against those dark forces, it's at that level. And it's also at this very sort of surface level,

Starting point is 01:30:13 which is our language. I mean, like, do you remember that story from like last week? I love how you were like, I thought you how quickly things yeah yeah exactly this old dominion professor wanted to call pedophiles minor attracted individuals yeah yeah because we're worried about what what the the the feelings of the people who are abusing children yeah I'm afraid we're gonna see that normalization in our lifetime I don't I think they're they're trying and maybe it is or maybe they're just see like so have you you see tho have you the th th th th th th the th th th th you th you th you th the th you the th you th you th you th you the th you the the th you the to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the the the the their the their their the their their their the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. I think they're trying and maybe it is or maybe they're just see like So have you seen on Twitter, right that they'll now send you something being like hey

Starting point is 01:30:52 Just so you know this guys put out some really crazy stuff. Yeah. That is training us for social credit score So once we get okay with these warnings now they're when they start doing it's like hey, just let you know the guy standing next you shit talks the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the government. the????? the the the the? the the the? the the the? the the the the the the the the the the their? the the social? the they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. So?? they. So? they. So? they. So? So? So? So? So? So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, the warnings. Now they're when they start doing it's like hey just let you know the guy standing next you, shit talks to government. Black Mirror dude. Yeah, that's where it's coming. Well Amazon came out with the article. My scores down you know. Yeah. I mean Amazon came out with the article where they can figure out your credit court, your credit card would go around with your browsing searching history or whatever whatever yeah that's the same thing as the same shit like if you in there hey did Joe Biden or how did uh so-and-so make her money or what's up with Kamal Harris oh guess what you can't live here we're not gonna give you that loan to live in Beverly Hills since you're not part of the game at least your credit score is you know, not someone's opinion of what is true. I agree.

Starting point is 01:31:45 Well, I mean, you know, I've seen this in my community a lot. The paranormal community has just lost its mind about who you associate and what podcast you're on. And like, the transmission only goes one way, right? So if you're on some podcast that has views that don't conform to the establishment, then you're tainted by that don't conform to the establishment, then you're tainted by that. But if you, you know, go on a podcast that has views that do conform with the establishment, then you don't get somehow cleansed by that. You can't, you know, it's like you're,

Starting point is 01:32:14 you become untouchable and it's just this idea. And I don't agree with everything you guys say, I don't agree with some of it, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to............ to, to, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, told, to, told, to me, too, too, told, too, told, too, told, to. to. it's just, I reserve the right to speak to whoever I goddamn well please. Fox sounds like we're on another list. But there are some people for whom like disagreeing on any issue is just, you're written off to them. I mean, and that's the worst kind of thinking. And saying that, it's just buzz words. That's all, they don't, it's like back back th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I to to to to buzz words. That's all they don't it's like back when I started comedy just saying Jesus Christ in some rooms you would lose the entire room just saying it. So now fast forward to where we are anytime anybody says black

Starting point is 01:32:56 gay women they don't even listen to what you become Charlie Brown's mom to them and they red line. Yep that's what it is I experienced it this this weekend. They don't listen to the they don't listen to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. to to the. the. the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the room. the room. the room. the room. the room. the room. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the Charlie Brown's mom to them and they redline. Yep, that's what it is. I experienced it this weekend. They don't listen to what is being said. They just react. Well dude, there's this orgasm that people who respond to those kinds of thing have when they feel like, oh, I get to be offended now. You know what I mean. It's feeling something. It's emotion. People are, people are addicted to emotion. Now, listen, there's also, this is a sign of how good we have it here, right? There's also this desire for fight or flight emotion, right?

Starting point is 01:33:38 The feeling of their, that your life is on the line, because that's what it used to be back in the wild days, where we thought where we were like cavemen, like this desire to feel, so you feel it when you get offended, right? You feel it with the thought that we are living in a fucking pandemic that is gonna kill everybody. I was literally in San Diego, man. And like, the, the labeling of the the the the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the street the man, and like the The labeling of the streets is so bad You did sometimes they don't tell you what streets you're on

Starting point is 01:34:09 You're like where the fuck am I so this woman is coming next to me She has a mask on she's walking. I'm like ma'am cute tell me what street is she's like no I don't literally because I didn't have a mask on she was freaking out Even their own research says that you they nobody nobody nobody? they? they? they? they? they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they they they they they they're they're they're they're their their their to they to to to to to to they to to they they to they to they they to they they they they they they they they they. Even their own research says that you can't, nobody's getting it outside. They don't care because the sea was already planted. I listen, like I have family members who are isolators, okay? Telling you that you can't leave your house, they love this. They lean into it. Give them a reason not to leave.

Starting point is 01:34:43 Don't overlook like the, the spiritual fulfillment that people got out of this too. I mean, I think that we're hardwired to have religion of some sort. And if you don't have religion, I'm not saying that you have to have religion, right? I'm not saying that I have plenty of athious friends, whatever. But if you don't have that void filled by something, thi. then you're going to seek it out and that's what I think a lot of people have done. I mean, you know, there's a meme that I saw that was the Captain Phillips where he's like looking at Tom Hanks and he goes, I am a religion now and it's his head is the COVID-molage school.

Starting point is 01:35:14 You know, we're living in crazy times. Yeah. Joshua, I can listen to you forever brother it was an honor and privilege come back anytime doors open I really enjoyed it as a fun you know dude this shows I don't know why the paranormal people don't love us because we love the weader the better we're all about that action all about it dude I'm too weird for the UFO people and I'm too weird for the bigfoot people so I'm right up your alley well sounds like you're doing something right then, you know what I'm saying? Because if everybody likes you, that's my opinion on like sometimes comedy, it's like if every,

Starting point is 01:35:52 if everybody likes you, you're probably not doing anything on stage. It doesn't matter how extreme the group is they all have their orthodoxies, you know, and if you don't you don't you on the outs with, 100% even the fringe groups. Well, great episode today again, Joshua, one more time, tell them where they can find you. Joshua Cutchin.m. J.O.S.H.U.C.H.H.H.H.H.I. It has links to all my books that you can purchase wherever you choose. All right, Matt, well, you know, I hope you guys check it out.

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Starting point is 01:37:05 Thank you for all the five-star reviews. Thank you for all the love. You keep us in the top, 75 at all time, and for a show this old, that's pretty amazing. So thank you guys very much, and we will see you soon. Take care. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 01:37:31 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Tim foil hack. Tim foil.

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