Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #521: Mysteries Of The 40th Parallel with Ras Ben and Michael Wann

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haft. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:30 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just move my mind. Good! Morning's warm and welcome. Good! Good! Morning's warm and welcome the Tim Fall Hat. You know I am. You know I'm here to do, I'm here to, RAH. Bang, that's right, back in the saddle coming to the end of the year, doing nothing but bangers. Okay, we're banging out bangers, we're banging the bangers so you can bang.

Starting point is 00:01:02 Okay, and that's what we're all about. Join as always my man Xavier Guerrero what's up do you know Xavier's doing the Latino morning drive show now what we don't smoke the same wake and bake tmpranito and she door there is a fat try to over there over there I'm a sicko oh no sick oh what does that mean actually what is he he saying wake up early yeah we do a wake the wake the wake th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th th is th is th is th is th th is th th th thus thi thus tho to th to th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th is th is th is th is the th is the the the the the the th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is a th is a th th th th th th th thin thi thi thi thi to the to the the to the to the the the the thee thi thi thi th saying wake up early yeah we do a wake and bake now it's from 9 to 11 so you can wake up and while you're at work a live thing alive yeah live we're live check out we don't smoke the same wherever you watch Mexican television okay and other ones and two's he's leaving tie going back to his homeland so we have one more I know this is the last show in studio huh please welcome everybody's favorite Santa Claus Jay Nice

Starting point is 00:01:50 Johnny Woodard how it's happening brother where's my gift Johnny it just arrived today I'm a few minutes go I'll have to get it shipped to you I guess okay or you can just drive it over before you leave uh yeah could do you could do that probably probably won okay or you could leave it here and tell me come get it okay yeah I to the the the to to to to the to the to to to to the the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You really. You. You. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really. You really really. It really really really. It really. It really really really really. It really really. It really really really. It really really. It really really. It really really. It's really. It's really. It's really. It's really. It's. You really. You really. I respect. You might be a little embarrassed. Respect, respect. Guys, a great episode for you. We had Ross Ben, Michael Wan on and, hey dude, they bang, they bang. You know what I'm saying? They got two different energies and it's great dude. They work well together. Haven't seen that great of a couple since.

Starting point is 00:02:41 Let's threath weapon. I mean, Simon and Garfunkel here No, maybe maybe maybe but I think they really crush it. I enjoyed having them on and They're always welcome back. It's a great show another banger the then did okay, so guys if you want to see me live I have some wonderful live shows okay Okay, in the new year, guess what daddy's going hard in the pain with some mega shows okay? First one up say lose. Say lose to lose. I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, th, th, maybe, maybe, th, th, maybe, maybe, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, maybe, maybe, maybe,the new year, guess what? Daddy's going hard in the paint with some mega shows, okay? First one up, San Luis Obispo, I'm there, okay? Grab your tickets now, they're available at Sam Triply.com.

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Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm gonna go see all my family, back to where it all be gone. How he do he recent guest on Broken Simulation check that out just gonna... And everybody loves his stories dude. They all a three-hour banger that Johnny was supposed to cut down. I did cut it now. I cut like 20 minutes out of it. Look okay so you know he's trimming the fat even though I'm super fat and then finally Tim Fall Hat kicks it off again. You keep asking for some LA dates while we got close, boom, we're in Long Beach, Harvels, okay? Two shows. First show, stand-up comedy. Second show is Swarm Tank, which we will be recording for your pleasure and per- But come get weird with us, man. Jay Nike is going to do some stand-up, everybody's talking about. Ryan Davis says he's going to join

Starting point is 00:04:22 join us off the great will be there. Xavier Gereereereereereereereereereere. Okay. the. th. th. th. to. th says he's going to join us off the grade will be there Xavier Guerrero okay he's gonna smoke the same with you and then go do some stand-up grab all those tickets at Sam Tripoli dot com guys I am banging out episodes like I like a fiend bro like a fiend I don't know how you do it honestly well you know here's the thing about it I learned something every show so it's like it's like just like sitting down to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to the the the the to to the the to the the to to to to to the to the to the the the the same the the the the the the the the the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. try. try. I try. try. I try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. th. the. th. th. to the thing about it. I learned something every show, so it's like, it's just like sitting down and reading a book and said I'm just talking to somebody and I learned so much. Are you actually going to be able to take a break? You keep, I remember, at first it was like, I'm taking a real hard out here. On the 20th, I'm done, I a little bit. Now I'm gonna try not to talk to people the whole weekend.

Starting point is 00:05:06 She's not gonna talk to anybody. No, I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna try not to do any episode, you know, so people miss me a little bit because I'm going hard in the paint. And if you want to hear my premium content, and it's been pure fire. FIN. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. the. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. S. S. S. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's. She's. to. She's. to. to. to. I. t. I. I. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. She's. She's bangers. Okay, and it's all on Rockfin. ROKFIN.com slash Timphal Haa, broken sim. We don't smoke to sing. Zero, conspiracy social club, any of those. We're talking six, seven episodes.

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Starting point is 00:08:11 And, uh, yeah, man. Guys enjoy the years. We go deep home boy. Here, open your mic. Drink from the fopton. All right guys, let's get into it. Very excited about this episode. I mean, like, we were just talking off air. Nothing but heaters lately. Really great episodes, and this one is going to be one of the classics I can already tell.

Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm really excited these two guys that are working together. It's kind of like when you were a kid and you're watching WWF and your two favorite wrestlers. Suddenly we're on the same tag team championship and you're like, oh yeah, dog! Hogan and Ultimate Warrior on the same team! Oh, they're going to beat Legion of Doom, dog, they're, thog, thog, thog, thog, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and, and tho, and tho, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, and th, and they're going to beat Legion of Doom Dog. They can't be stopped. And that's how I feel about these next guys. They have a new podcast help from the 40th Parallel. Please welcome back. Returning champions. Michael Wan, Ross Ben. Gentlemen, how are you? Thankful. Dude, beautiful. I feel like I'm so excited to be here. That was such a beautiful introduction, like that WWF, because it's weird. I would not think of myself as a WWF, like on that level. But then when you say it, when you position it that way, like I looked at it from a

Starting point is 00:09:34 different perspective and I was like, okay, I can get with that. I can definitely look at this as a WWF sort of positioning sort th sort th sort th sort th sort th sort th sort th sort of positioning, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th sort, like, like, th, th, like, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm to, I'm to, I'm to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th. th. thi. thi. thi. thin. thi. thi. to. thi. to. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. So thank you for that. And I'm super excited to be here. And Ros, it's always a pleasure to see your face. Yeah, man. It's also got to be from the perspective of what wrestling was at my age as a child. Like, you know, not coming to grips with that was quote unquote, scripted, which I have no problems with. But like what that represent, like, even when you go back that that that that that that that that that that that that that, but like what that represent, like even when you go back

Starting point is 00:10:05 you watch pro wrestling and you watch that Resslemania where Hogan takes on Ultimate Warrior, you can feel the energy even off that decade-old video of what that met pop culturally. So that's what I'm talking about when like two grades come together together to battle the forces of evil. That's what I'm talking about, bro. I mean, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, all about, th, th, th, th, th, thogether to battle the forces of evil. That's what I'm talking about, bro. I mean, all about that action. So before we get into it, let's, for those who aren't familiar with you, you guys have both been on multiple times,

Starting point is 00:10:35 where can they find you guys? And then we'll get into our conversation. Whichever one you watch. I got one stop shop online. That's Rospen.com. I do have a YouTube channel which is Rospin 188. And yeah, that's that's that's my spot. Perfect. And the Susquehanna Alchemy if you just you know that is a dot com. We'll get you some stuff.

Starting point is 00:11:04 Uh, at YouTube and Instagram but we're probably going to get into this in our conversation but I'm doing the opposite I am I am purposefully and slowly withdrawing my participation on a lot of on any of the forums or the internet in general so it's what I'm really hoping to do is more and more stuff face to face and in person. So so right now the window still open about how much longer it's going to be. No, and I respect that. And I'm actually kind of there too. You know. I think I am. I'm tangling myself from the internet. Mm-hmm. Yep. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I understand. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I'm really tangling myself from the internet.

Starting point is 00:11:54 Yep. I understand that too. I like I love podcasting but I want to kind of think about how I mean, I'll always do Timful hat until the wheels fall off because I think it's important. But I'm also like, you know, like I had two Instagrams clipped and I have a guy, you know, Tommy G, who I love to death is like really trying to push me to go through this guy to get back my Instagrams. But part of me is like, I'm kind of happy, you know, it's like the two Instagrams I still kind of have, I have, I mean, the broken sim to Tim Foll, I don't really have any, uh, I don't really, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th., th., th., th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, to, to, th. try, don't have any way to get on there. And my other ones, and like I used to think about how consumed I was with being on Instagram drop and dank memes, fighting the fight, and I'm like such a, all my energy was put into that. It's like I just want to use it for promotion, but that's why I pay people to do that. And I just want to pull out less and less and less and less and less and just and just and just and just and less and just and less and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and just and th and th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th and just th just th just th just the th as thus thus the the the th as the tho tho their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the and the and thin. I the an thin. I the an thean. I thean. thin. I thean. I thin. the an thin. I the an things and have other people upload them have other people do that and just live in the

Starting point is 00:12:48 the now and not like be living in this early version of the metaverse which they're shoving down our throats I do have a problem with censorship you think this would be considered the early version of my I think what a hundred percent social media is getting you ready for the for the metaverse in the sense that now you have a reality that isn't right here tangible? I mean how many people's life is all based on what is happening on their social media? Even like I mean it's like for you I understand like there's people that understand why they're on the phone 24-7 but there's people that work at McDonald's that live on their phone as if like they have business on there.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Right. I guess as if they're making money on their micbrook, like, go find something else that makes you money because if you put that much effort into that, I know why you're doing, I know why you talk about having the breaks, because you need a break why is it you think you need it's just you're addicted well it's yeah I like I feel like I'm really getting siloed into like just talking to the same people all the time you also let's be honest I you go to war on Instagram but okay so here's what happened that we'll get an emotional to the guests here just hearing us yelling each other but you know for me the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. thus th. thus to to thus thus thus thus thus th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I I I I I th. I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th the th the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm tee. I'm te. te. tell the. I'm thi. I'm thi. I for me it's like I lost the comedy, I lost live comedy for a while. So I wasn't used to like killing hecklers so I kind of like went on social media to start kind of just like stealing souls, you know, and then I got you get so addicted to that. And now I'm kind of like I'm over it. I'm over it. Now I like to creep a little bit. I'm a creeper. I'm a creeper. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I'm a creeper. I do. the creeper. I the creeper. I the creeper. I the creeper. I the c. I the c. I the c. I the c. I'm a creep. I'm a creep. I'm a c. I'm a c. I the c. I'm a the c. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I the c. I the c. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I to. I to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I to. I to. to. I the. I the. the. the. I the. to. to. I the. I the. I the. I the. to. to that and now I'm kind of like I'm over it. I'm over it. Now I like to creep a little bit.

Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm a creeper. I do some creeping. And I enjoy the creeping of it. But outside of that, I'm kind of ready to like take a break from it. I love podcasting though. I do love it. That's the only thing that I will continue. I do love. I think I'm going to simplify some of my shows. But. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to the the th. I enjoy th. I enjoy th. I enjoy th. I enjoy th. I enjoy th. I enjoy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to the to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I enjoy th. I enjoy. I enjoy. I enjoy. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I te. I te. I try try try try try try try try try the. I the. I to the. I to the. I think I'm going to simplify some of my shows, but outside that I do love podcast. There should just be a meme page. Like Instagram memes, you can't really comment on that thing, just go look at memes. Yeah, maybe. I don't know, you know, Anyways, gentlemen, thank you for joining the podcast and listen to us. Well, I want to comment, are there, there, there's so many things you guys said, but I want to touch one, I'll pick one. You got to realize, the comment was said that, you know, there's so many things you guys said, but I want to to tou. You got to realize the comment was was said that you know, you think that this is the early

Starting point is 00:17:08 stage of the Metaverse, or we have the Metaverse there, it's like, so it's one continuum. It's one continuum. And so we now have a little bit of hindsight where we can begin to understand like the way it works. And so if we go back, like, you know, I did a video about this a couple weeks ago and I did all of th th th th th th that th that that th that th th that th that th that th that th th th that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi this is this is this is this is this is that that that that that that that that that that that that thi th. to understand like the way it works. And so if we go back, like, you know, I did a video about this a couple weeks ago and I did all of these videos from AT&T which they were talking about the internet and they made it in 1993. And it's really, really funny to watch right now,

Starting point is 00:17:35 but you're like, wow, those guys knew exactly what they're ta ta ta to. they're they're terms of how things are released and introduced. And they've been around for a long time. So like the internet, the internet, like there was a period of time where it was a confusing concept. Like they literally had to take CDs and shove them in envelopes and mail them to people's houses and they're like shove that in your computer, you're going to be amazed. And th like th like th th th th th like th th th th like th th th th th th th th. And thi thi thi thi thi thi thi and thi and thi. thi. thi's thi thi's thi's thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee an the an the an the an the an the an the an the an the an the an thi's thi's thi. thi. them to people's houses and they're like shove that in your computer you're gonna be amazed and that was about 10 years and if you were the older part of a generation so if you were 60 years older over in 1990 you're like oh like how do I get to the internet is it in

Starting point is 00:18:18 the mall do I got like how does it on your comprehension you didn't have a point of reference and the same shit is true with the metaverse. The metaverse is here, this is the metaverse. It's changing just like the internet change, but right now what's happening is there is an introduction. Hey, this is what it's going to be. And let me frame it up. Like it's always going to be there.

Starting point is 00:18:38 Like all of the stuff that's been around for like 10 or 15 years. Like, and AT&T had enough information to accurately predict all of this sort of stuff. So when we see this like, this Zuckerberg, like tel a presentation about what the future is to look like, like there's truths in it, but then there's also like, you're stepping into something that's already been there. We are in the metaverse. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's already been there. We are in the metaverse. Yes, it's going to be built, but what it's really talking about by naming it is the nature in which how humanity interacted

Starting point is 00:19:13 with technology is changing. They gave it a name. They're telling you the internet was here, it took a while, there was social media, that came in like the mid-2000s and then this kind of brings us to where we are now. There's a line in the sand and now we're going to go and start to see what the next part's going to look like. And you know if you're paying attention it's not going to be that big of a surprise. I totally agree. I think it's just this is uh, uh, they've been slowly dragging us into this like deep deep waters of what they want us

Starting point is 00:19:45 to get into and you know we were talking a lot about censorship before the show I mean just imagine what the censorship is going to be on the metaverse when they are controlling every aspect of what you're living in and how you're doing and like I mean and of course there will be people who excuse me hustle hustle hustle hustle, hustle, and figure out ways to find glitches in the matrix and how to counter. I mean, that's all going to be part of it, but it's, it's, I just get worried, you know, my daughters are almost two, I get worried about what they're walking into and how much

Starting point is 00:20:21 I can protect them from it. And, know it's like you know one of my daughters is super analytical and the other one is just a wrecking ball. And I mean those both in the most loving way possible. Like they're both so unique and I think one's going to be a like someone who's just constantly digesting information and figuring out all this stuff. And the other one's just going to be like a, you know, probably going to be like a, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, to to tho, to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to be like someone who's just constantly digesting information and figuring out all this stuff and the other one's just going to be like, you know, probably going to save us all from the killer robots from the future when they come and she's got to protect John Connor right? Like that's like what that's what my other dog is going to be like but what are they going to they going to participate in the metaverse? Are they going to be th? that th? th? That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's th. That's th. That's their th. That's th. That's th. That's their th. That's th. th. th. That's tho, thi o' their o' their o' tho o' th is just th is just th is just their their their their their their their their one their their their one the other the other the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, the other, their o' their o' their o' their o' their o' thi o' thi o' thi o' thi o' thi o'e o'e o'eo'eateateateateate. thoooooo' one's thi o'-one's going going going, thi o' the other one's going, the other one's gonna, how are they gonna participate in the metaverse? Are they gonna be forced into the metaverse?

Starting point is 00:21:07 Is their old man dad warning them about all this stuff gonna mean anything to them? I mean, the cool thing I heard about the metavers is like, imagine you're going to school and they have the meta it like that, that's a good way of learning. That is amazing if you could fucking live that thing and be like, I, like, it sounds crazy. Until you realize who's teaching you. Yeah, but we got to think about the cool parts about it. As a kid, you got to, as a teacher, you got to, as a teacher, part of this. That's a thing where you gotta think about the positive is that you can't always be negative because that's one thing I always-

Starting point is 00:21:46 Hold on, I heard this part and I heard it was cool. First of all, the notion of living at, like world war two, like it was fucking Disneyland, like it's this wonderful thing. It's like, now you're gonna listen to people and then you're going to be able to push notions that paralyze society for so long. I mean, it's on both sides. Here's what's going to happen in the metaverse, right?

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Starting point is 00:23:35 It is gonna be so amazing, it's gonna be so amazing that you're not gonna wanna wanna take it off. You're not ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to want to take it off. You're not ever going to be outside of it. And so I don't think, what I think is important right now and time, it's not like is this a good or bad, it's like deciding how you as an individual are going to meet it. So I mentioned that in the beginning. It's like, you know, I'm an old dude. And so it's like, I'm looking at it, this this this, this, this, this, this, th and this is the energy I'm going to put into it. If I was a young dude, I might have a different opinion on it. But right now through these discussions, we're beginning to

Starting point is 00:24:08 recognize where we are. I call it the invisible ships experience. Like, there's this whole thing about like being able, waking up to seeing what you're, what's surrounding you. And that's what this conversation is right now, in my opinion. Wait, what do you guys think the timeline is on this? I'm really curious about that. What are we talking here for full-on metaverse? I mean, how long did the universe, I mean, the social media get where we... Yeah, but this is, this is so many, that's different than social media because these are a number of technologies integrated and they all have to be really really really really really really really really really really really really really really they all they all to be really advanced for it to work the way they want to. You think 10 or 15? Okay.

Starting point is 00:24:46 The only thing positive I see from this outside, what Xavier just said is like, I'm going to be an old man when this happens. And that's what that's what the senior citizens homes are just going to be. Just old people with VR goggles just. And by the way, I'm just, thouling, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th I'm because, dude, that's all they do all day. It's not just social media that was the dry run for this. It's also video games. Video games are much, I mean, very comparable as far as I'm concerned.

Starting point is 00:25:12 Because you have people like in this Roblox game and, and, and, what's the, Minecraft, you know, that're melting into the, they're melting into the couch, you know. What's that, Ross? And I was just saying, yeah, the youth, they really are consumed with them video games. Yeah, they really are. So we'll see what happens. Then I kind of go like where the, they don't even want to deal with the real world. You know, the real world is a problem. their the real world, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the real world is a problem when they come back to the real world it's like uh so I see that as a big motivator for people wanting to jump in this metaverse

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Starting point is 00:28:09 Enjoy. Do you think that, let's say, alphas, right, who have a physical build, like they have certain physical gifts like they're athletic, they're super attractive, or even mentally they're super smart. Do you think they're gonna want to go into this metaverse where now they are equal to everybody else? And is that an old way of looking at it? Right. Well, I think it's like what Mike said,

Starting point is 00:28:42 everyone's gonna have to make their own decision how they're going to relate to it. You know? One of the reasons I say I'm disentangling from the internet is because I don't want to find myself having to deal with this thing because of economics or whatever, you know. We got to create alternate income exchange systems if we're not going to get in it, you know. No, 100% we're going to have to figure out a way to survive not in the metaverse in the future.

Starting point is 00:29:22 That's that's the rub in this in this equation and where like people need to particularly those who aren't like already all in like there's a there's a whole group there's a whole you know population of folks who are like what what's the question dude? Like why are you even asking this? This is the future this is going to be awesome. And then you know there's the other extreme where you know right away that this is not a thing which you want to participate in. I fall in that camp. And it is like me dealing with my own internal integrity that I still work with the internet because I know how bad it is, but yet I'm still on it. I think someone used the word addiction. Like, the internet truly is the thing thing that you that you thinininininin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. thi. thin, thi. thi. this is this is this is thi. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is, thi. I is, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is, thi. I is thi. I is this is thi. I is this is thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thin. I is thin. I is thin. I is thin. I thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I the thing that you became addicted the first time you were really part of it. But where I want to go with this,

Starting point is 00:30:07 which I think is so interesting, is they, 10 years ago, there was a story that was put out by the business roundtable and by the national education alliance or association. And they were basically saying, we have to create jobs, or we have to train our children, teach our children for jobs we can't even imagine are going to be in the future. And there was just like little bit of time which has been where like, well, what are they

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Starting point is 00:31:34 Like, I can't blank out like I could in grade school. Right. I totally agree with that the ramifications are crazy and you're 100% correct they have been using video games to train people I mean the military is like I mean so so when I went did the idea USO very long time ago or I say mid 2000s I went to a US so scary part you know we went right you were right yeah you said early 2000 right in the middle so I was actually in Afghanistan when the war turned and the war turned and the war turned and the middle of it. You said early 2000. That's the scary part. So I was actually in Afghanistan when the war turned. And the war turned on when this prison,

Starting point is 00:32:11 basically this giant prison break happened and all of these quote unquote al-qaeda terrorists. Dude, you know it's so funny because they didn't want you to be dirty and then you meet with these guys and they're just like like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the college, the college, the college, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you meet with these guys and they're just like, yeah, the college kids, they wanted a dick joke. But so we were stuck, we were stuck there. There was a real panic in the air and it was it was kind of crazy. But the reason I tell the story is because our tour guy told us something, he was a crazy guy. They're like, oh dude, you want to be nuts, you should get into the chaser van, dude. Because what would happen, you would

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Starting point is 00:33:45 And they decided that's when you start seeing gun violence in movies. You start seeing people pulling the gun, shooting everybody, and it became monkey-see-munky-do. And that's exactly what they did. Fast forward, okay? So I'm driving back from Vegas. You know, I've seen so many dead bodies and movies, right? All over the place. I'm driving back from Vegas. There is a car crash like I've never seen before.

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Starting point is 00:34:55 You were more surprised that there wasn't like dramatic music playing in the back right. I mean like I was so trained to see a dead body that it didn't physically affect me. Well dude, imagine how it's going to be, fast forward a little more, 10 years from now, when it's a robot avatar on the field and it's just a guy with a clicker, you know, in a warehouse in Arizona in the desert, you know, just shooting people, you know, I mean, they're gonna have no problem for that. Well, that goes back to sex. All these kids are watching all this insane porn and they finally get some pussy and they're like,

Starting point is 00:35:28 this is it. No, but I mean like the expectations of girls too early dude. Like this is the timeline we're on dude. This is it man and it's just like, I think it's like, but I also think people are starting to understand that the internet needs to be done in small and small parts not everybody obviously there's some people I mean I mean you look at China you look at Korea you look at Japan they're having a population problem nobody's having sex over there because they're all you know, just stuck into the internet. You know what China's TikTok is?

Starting point is 00:36:11 Instead of like blue people telling you about what their pronouns are, literal sign shit, engineering shit. Their Tiktoks are teaching these kids to be fucking smart instead of like blue-hair people telling you, like, hey, these are my pronouns and here's this challenge and there's this other TikTok challenge out there I guess in China all the TikTok is straight just intellectual shit to get the kids to fucking start thinking making or making the country better ready to fucking take over right but I mean like I agree what you're saying I've been like I to thinne. I don't like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I agree what you're saying. I've been to China. Have you, I mean, like, I don't want to get like into like people like, well, that's a little off,

Starting point is 00:36:47 but they're autistic as fuck. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it, dude. Like, I've seen, you know, it's just like, that's why they got to steal all of our, like, they have to their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they, like, like, like, they, they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they.. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. there. There's no creativity. That's why they have to steal all of our stuff because they can't create over there. Because they've legislated it out. Through communism, hey, you're going to do this yet. I don't want to do the job. I'm not going to do the job.

Starting point is 00:37:18 And then you're doing something that maybe you're meant to do something else and they legislate it out. That is the one thing, like you know, communism and these elites, someone brought it up before. Oh, Cliff High was talking about. They want to legislate out, you know, poverty. Which sounds like a great idea, dude. No, buddy's gonna be poor. Yeah, it's great. You know what being poor does? Motivate you to get your ass up and do something to change your life, which is where a lot of creativity comes from. So much creativity comes from just trying to get out of your social economic situation. When you when you legislate it out, there's no drive. So that's not we've got a long rant. I want to get, there's no drive.

Starting point is 00:38:06 So that's not. We've got a long rant. I want to get into the 40th parallel. Well, I think now this is a good setup because we've been talking a lot like about all the internet bad and stuff like that. So, and we want to kind of change the flavor, change the way this feels. And I think what would be an interesting way is, you know, let me, let me, let me, let me, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, to, to, when, to, when, when, to, when, when, when, when, when, to, when, when, when,the way this feels, and I think what would be an interesting way is, you know, let me introduce an idea to you right now and it's, it's, it's, before, it is the podcast that, that, that Ross and I are doing from the 40th parallel. We started doing it probably in about spring this past year, but, but I want this to be the setup before we get into it. One of the pieces of feedback,

Starting point is 00:38:51 which I have received since doing this, I've received this from many, many different people, is people listen to what Ros and I are talking about on this podcast, and then they have used that as inspiration to then go out into their literal backyard, like the town they live in, the city they live in, and begin to look at it, like feet on the street, both literally and metaphorically in a new way.

Starting point is 00:39:18 And so to me, like, right now, there's still like a lot of things which we can, which we're not fully in the full some in metaverse in which all of the the censorship has taken place so we still got a little bit of freedom right now and so for now I want to go and maybe talk a little bit about some of those things if we can do that 100% all about that action all right all right I thought you might be. Roswell you haven't said th a th a th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the to the to to the to to the the the the to the to the to the to the the the the the. the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to the to toeean toean. thean. toean. thean. toean. the thean. thean. the the the the, all right, I thought you might be. Roswell, you haven't said much, so let me let me hand it over to you and like what would you go and how would you kind of describe like what it is that we're doing? Well, we'd be the mystics of the 40th parallel, you know, where I guess your path, your life path led you toto the realization that, man, there's something about this 40th parallel, particularly here by the Susquehanna River in Lancaster.

Starting point is 00:40:17 And my couple of decades here living in Philly, it's like, man, this place right here, there's something very mystical about it, you know, the history, the 400 years of history here on the 40th parallel in this place that was kind of born to be a manipulation of timelines, you know? Yeah, it's like we were both doing this parallel research and bringing it together, you know, you sharing what you've been exploring as well as myself. Yeah, man, it's the revelations that has come out, I think, very profound, you know. Yeah, so. So let me throw this in before you, before you jump in, you jump in Sam is I started doing this like research like this. I was on a certain path and certain things caught my interest and I was a certain place in life and then I uncovered all of this stuff and I'm being vague on purpose so and my mind is just like oh my goodness and I'm try to work and like gather this information and like compile it. And then I'm also watching on YouTube and I see this this thi. And I this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I this this th. th. th. th. this th. this this th. this th. this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi., and I'm trying to work and gather this information and like compile it. And then I'm also watching on YouTube

Starting point is 00:41:48 and I see this guy Rosben. And I'm listening to what he's saying. And I'm like, holy shite, he's talking the same thing I'm talking about. He's tapped in, or I'm tapped into the same thing he is in or I'm tapped in the same thing or he's tapping the same thing I am in. We're about 50 miles apart and I recognize this because I didn't know what I was necessarily looking at and so once I had that realization and he was and Ross was a couple years before me like he was out like sharing his research and I'm just gathering at this time I start reaching out to him. I start sending them in emails I'm putting together all these like little slides gathering information I'm like hey like you know I'm a fan boy and I'm sending them emails and this went on. this went on to the try and thiau. to their thi. I know what it's like to receive email like you know you know what it's like. to like to to to to to to to to to to to the like like to the like to the like th like the like th like th like th like th like the like th like th like th like th like to to th like th like to th like to to th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like the like the like the like the like th like like like th like like like like th like like like th like like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like the like th like like th like th like the like like the like th like th like th like the like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like to th like th like th like. And so but I kept on sending like Ross these these messages and I'm thinking in my head.

Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm like I wonder what he thinks. Like does he think this is some like you know nut job or what have you like I don't really know because the responses were like you know they're kind of like, thanks man and that could be read anyway. And so then then th. thin the thin thin thi the first thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I thin. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I I th. I I I th. I I I I th. I th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. And I'm th. And I'm th. And th. And th. And th. And, to th. And, th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. I'm thin. And, th. I'm th. And I'm th. And I'mthen beginning last year, we like kind of met in real, in real, like an internet space, but we did our first research, shared research together. And then I went out and I visited where his research takes place on the 40th parallel. And what it is we do is we look at our history and our geology and we see it from a bigger picture and we share this research. And what I indicated earlier about in terms of the inspiration, we're seeing people listen. th th th th th th th like in th like in th like in th in th like in th like in the th like in the the th like in the the th like in the th like in the the the th like in th like in th like in th like in th like in the th like in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, in real, like th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi their thi their thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. their their their thiiiiiii. thi. thi their thi and we share this research. And what I indicated earlier about in terms of the inspiration,

Starting point is 00:43:28 we're seeing people listening to it. And yeah, I think they're really interested in the stuff which we're talking about in Philadelphia and Lancaster, which is my backyard, but even more so, people are like going out and looking at their backyard, and they're looking at their geology, and they're looking at their backyard and they're looking at their geology and they're looking at their history and they're looking at their Masonic Temple and they're looking at their like public artworks and they're looking at their native peoples who lived in the area and this whole other picture is coming into play. So that's kind of what we're working with right now. I love it. I think it's very important. I think it's a conversation we've had on this show a bunch of times. People mistake heritage for culture, I mean culture for heritage, you know, and they think that is their history and it is not.

Starting point is 00:44:18 Most of your culture is manufactured in a think tank and forced upon you by conformist and opportunist. And the real truth is like, there's a history out there and you have to go to their their their their their their their their their their their history their history and their history and their history their history their heritage their heritage and their heritage their heritage and their heritage. H their heritage. H their heritage. H their heritage. H their heritage their heritage their heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, heritage, their heritage, their heritage by conformist and opportunist and the real truth is like there's a history out there and you have to go find it and they've hidden it over and over again they've made it so many layers of this rotten onion to get to the core of what you're trying to find and that truly is the power and again going back to stuff that, you know, that Xavier was saying, you know, it's just like it makes me very nervous because history is going to be, you know, when you are experiencing something they're telling you as history, you're not going to be able to differentiate whether it's true or not. And where are they going to get the other, that other information?

Starting point is 00:45:01 So, I love this, man. And I will say this this this this this this this this this other information. So I love this man. There's so much. And I will say this to tie it in with what you all were discussing earlier about the metaverse. All those technologies was birthed here in Philadelphia, you know, electricity, the computer, all them things was birthed right here and grown on the Susquehanna, you know. So that's not an accident. There's a reason for that. You know, Philadelphia was actually born for that. to put us on this electrified, computerized Promethean timeline, you know? So we both kind of

Starting point is 00:46:08 saw how this is embedded in our landscape. Like, there's really, I guess, for lack of a better word, there's levels of magic being worked here. And for that magic to work, they have to tell you what they're doing. It has to be, you know, to tell you what they're doing. It has to be, you know, there are no secrets about this, only mysteries. Everything that was intended, including this whole, capturing our minds and souls in the metaverse, is embedded in the landscape, particularly along the 40th parallel, from, I would say, Philadelphia to at least Boulder, Colorado being a ground zero for rolling this metaverse out. It's like the geometric land point of reference where, you know, like the analog to digital measure of the planet goes, is older as the zero-zero reference points,

Starting point is 00:47:27 zero-degree reference point. Again, right on the 40th parallel, and prophecy is tied into all of this, how 40 is a very significant number, biblically. And, yeah, man, it's, uh, and thethe thing is these mysteries of the 40th parallel they're great mysteries meaning if you can decipher and decode these mysteries other things that appear mysterious yeah yeah, man, it's like you. It falls into place. Yeah, you have the key to know really what it is and it's a mystery no more.

Starting point is 00:48:15 So. So I want to ask you something, Ross. I'm going to mention two other cities on the foot, like right on, like 40 degrees exact, two cities that are on it outside of the United States. I'm curious what you think about them historically or significantly, what have you. One being Madrid, Spain, the other being Beijing, China. Damn. Well, I have to study more on Beijing.

Starting point is 00:48:43 I'm not familiar, you know. I don't have to... Madrid on Beijing. I'm not familiar. You know? I don't have that. Madrins in your wheelhouse. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, Gibraltar and that Iberian peninsula is the root of so many of these mysteries. I found out recently, I know you do a lot of research on John D. Who was, which queen was it, was it Queen Elizabeth?

Starting point is 00:49:12 Queen Elizabeth the first. Right. Queen Elizabeth's like court mystic, right? Court alchemists. That he was from Iberia. You know, from that Iberian peninsula. But yeah, the whole Herculean, what we could say the United States is a Herculean or Ball nation. And a lot of the, you know, mystic teachings that went into birthing this nation.

Starting point is 00:49:54 The whole idea of it being a new Jerusalem, the whole idea of finding the 40th parallel in the wilderness which is what Philadelphia and Lancaster kind of represent and founding the nation on the 40th parallel in the wilderness all these mysteries is coming out of Iberia you know so that would be my thoughts on Madrid. Because Madrid is right in the Iberian Peninsula and was a prominent city at that particular time in our history. Exactly. Iberia is a city or region or... It's basically Spain and Portugal.

Starting point is 00:50:41 Damn. That Iberian peninsula, you know, who controlled that? Controlled the straits of Gibraltar, which was, you know, any commerce, any ships coming in or out of the Mediterranean world into the Atlantic. They had to pass through whoever was in control of Iberia. Sounds real interesting dude. And we know this goes back to Columbus. It's not coincidence that the expulsion of the Moors out of Spain corresponded. The same year, Columbus got over to the Americas, you know, it's all tied in with, Yeah, what we consider the early colonies of the Americas.

Starting point is 00:51:45 I totally, that's something I've been really getting into lately. It's like, how early did the Moors get here? You know, obviously we had, you know, slaves coming in slave boats and, you know, that's a dark part of our history. But man, we also have this like powerful group of people, Moors that were like explorers and conquerors, and how early did they get here? And what were, how long were they here for? And, you know, we give Christopher Columbus, which is like slowly, we're slowly, but surely, you know, untangling that, that legacy that people like, okay, that's not really the story, that's not real. That's why you're seeing, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th legacy that people like, okay,

Starting point is 00:52:25 that's not really the story, that's not real, that's why you're seeing kind of a shift from Columbus Day to, you know, Indigenous Day. You know, and I'm Italian, I would rather celebrate Joe DiMaggio than celebrate Columbus, right? Personally, because like I don't think that's the real history. And we've been told a lot of different things. And I think that our history is a lot more interesting.

Starting point is 00:52:51 And I do believe that, you know, we have these lay lines and what they represent and how come there's so many interesting things that interesting points on this grid. Well, like, you know, like, Ann Cortez, when he came into, against the Aztexxxxxxx, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, we were their, we were th. thi, we were thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and we're thi, and I, and I, and I, and I, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi. And, thi. And, ththis grid Well, like you know like an uncortz when he came into Against the astics the astakes were waiting for their god. It was a coincidence He landed on that year. That's why they let him in like a prince. They were like oh look what a coincidence on our year Quetz Aquatos supposed to come in here comes these guys on boats that ride horses. They have to be gods. They let them in tho the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. gods. They let them in and this guy straight fucking let them into it and then jacked them, kidnapped the prince, told them you guys gotta do this and then all of a sudden they started dying from chicken vogue, but it was a coincidence.

Starting point is 00:53:33 If not, you really think that. Who knows what ancient civilizations were way before and we just, you know, I always say it's like the bears, bears in Michigan that move in the houses. They're like, this is my cave. You're like, you didn't build, oh, it's my cave, you know, you know, the bear things, that's its cave, man, but obviously someone was there before and abandoned it. But the 40th parallel is very interesting. Are there any other remarkable cities on that parallel or interesting stuff across the the plant our earth that would be very interesting. Columbus, Ohio is on the 40th.

Starting point is 00:54:25 There are several significant cities on the 40th parallel. The ones, I would say, the ones I pay the most attention to are Philadelphia, Columbus, Ohio, in Boulder. There are others around the world. I haven't put that much attention to them. But I, like, I think that is a Wikipedia entry, cities on the 40th parallel, you know, and it's a pretty long list.

Starting point is 00:55:00 So this, I've always thought this was kind of interesting. What I noticed is like, so if you follow the 40th parallel, I'm a map guy, I got maps all over the place, I like to study maps. And so if you follow the, if you have a map of the United States, and you followed the 40th parallel across the continental United States, let's say it goes through, I don't know, like 15 states maybe beginning with New Jersey and then Pennsylvania and then going, every state it goes through, the state capital of that state is within 10 miles.

Starting point is 00:55:33 Like more than more than half of them are like right on that line. And then the other ones are like, you know, a little bit above the line, a little bit below the line. You know, I found and state capitals are interesting because in most states, the line, a little bit below the line. You know, I found, and state capitals are interesting because in most states, the state capital is not really much of the, of a primary city of a state. Like Albany, New York does not compete, you know, against New York City.

Starting point is 00:55:57 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. So it's like state capitals are something else. State capitals are a symbol of a different type of energy. Yes. I do think that's so interesting Albany is on this. Well, no, Albany's not, I just use that as an example. Albany's way up, that's probably, if I were to guess, 40-second parallel. If we want to get in parallel statistics, since you manned that up, is there different parallels that mean something else?

Starting point is 00:56:25 Because which one is the verbatrida triangle on? Is that, does that make, is that different? Do they all have significant meanings? Different parallels? I think that's in the 20s. I'm not sure exactly what, like the specific. Yeah yeah yeah but it would be in the 20s you're getting in those you know the tropics by time you're at the bottom of Florida. So let's I mean just to get us all on the same page because I

Starting point is 00:56:57 never thought about parallels until I bumped up against this in in the research and I became kind of familiar. So a parallel is an east-west line and the equator, if you can imagine the equator in your mind, whether you want to imagine the earth is like a flat tray or if you want to imagine the earth as a globe or something else, whatever the equator is in your world, like that is zero degree, that's a parallel and it's zero degrees. And then the numbers go up to to the North Pole and the numbers go down in the South Pole and the lines are are parallel to the equator. I'm sorry? I was just going to mention that northernmost point is 90 degrees.

Starting point is 00:57:38 Yes 90 degrees north and 90 degrees south so I mean we're getting in geometry right now. What I will say, so there are two things which I've noticed which which has jumped out as it relates to like parallels as numbers because a parallel is just an idea. It's a number, but it is, it really also indicates an angle, particularly if you think of the earth as a globe. I don't know what it is. I've never been far enough off the Earth to get a good view to see what it is. So right now, my opinion is open,

Starting point is 00:58:10 but that's just Mike. I totally agree with you. If you use the globe, it's a 40 degree angle from the equator, which is very close then the second thing to answer your question, the most significant other angle, which I know, is the 33 degree. And if my history is correct, like there was big significance about the JFK assassination in Dallas and Dallas's role being the 33 degree in Delay Plaza being like a certain

Starting point is 00:58:43 type of pyramid and so like we've seen that level of magic kind of playing out and that's known as the killing of the king ritual that type of Masonic symbology and on that level like parallels did come into play right and I will say globally G, the Giza pyramid complex. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 30th parallel. And the 30th parallel, both in the northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere,

Starting point is 00:59:19 they're considered the tropics of Capricorn and Cancer because they kind of define how far north or south beyond the equator will the sun travel during the course of seasons, you know. So June 21st, the summer solstice, the sun will appear to be directly above the 30th parallel. And that is the parallel that the Giza pyramid complex is on. So that's another frame of reference. But for whatever reason, the 40th parallel seems to have significant importance in prophecy. There's so many prophecies that seem to point to land or significance of the 40th parallel. And that's kind of, it might be connected with Madrid.

Starting point is 01:00:32 And that again, a lot of the, because what I'll say is the idea that Columbus was the first to sail over here is ridiculous. You know, yeah. Moors, the Carthage, quote, well, I won't call them Moors, more so than Carthaginians and Phoenicians. They've been in the Americas since, you know, Solomonic times at least. Yes, for sure. That would be about roughly 1,000 BC, you know, so well, that's 3,000 years, right? So I think that's one of the biggest false histories we have to reprogram us, our way of thinking, you know.

Starting point is 01:01:22 It is interesting that they do that, that they just change. I mean, like, how long have they realized that they were going to, like, how long has their game plan been to divide and conquer and to use these racial lines of strife to get us to fight with each other, that they've completely rearranged the history of black in America? That they've changed the history of black in America, that they've changed the story. Now obviously we had some come over, I'm not saying that, are a large number, but they were already here. It's a part of the timeline manipulation, you know?

Starting point is 01:01:56 If you want to put someone on a certain trajectory for a future, you got to change the apparent trajectory of the past, you know? And so that's, uh, that's, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, uh, that's, uh, uh, uh, that's, that, that's a, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their th-a tho, tho, that thi thi thi thi, thi to change the apparent trajectory of the past. And so that's, I would say that's the ultimate root of it, you know. In this time, in 2021, 19, early 1900s, who might have been to, you know, maintain neo-colonialism. 1800s who might have been to, you know, maintain neo-colonialism, 1800s might have been to maintain colonialism, justify, you know, you got to dehumanize someone and erase their history to, you know, justify abusing them or exploiting them. I totally agree. Yeah, so, but, yeah, the Americas and the quote-unquote old world, there's been exchange of information and culture going both ways. I would say, really anti-deluvian times

Starting point is 01:03:07 and the mysteries of all of that are still embedded in the 40th parallel. I have a list of world-class cities there on the 40th parallel. We're talking northern latitude right right now it's Kansas City, Missouri. Now this is an interest one it says New York, New York. Yeah, New York's on the 40th parallel. It says Philadelphia is on the lower cusp of it and you have to know one degree is about 100 and I think it'sthink it's 170 miles, it's about 70 miles. 170 miles or 168 miles, make one degree of latitude. So Philadelphia is on the lower cusp of the 40th parallel. New York City is on the upper cusp of the 40th parallel.

Starting point is 01:04:02 That's, that's very interesting because so much has come out of New York City and what New York City and what to the to the the 40th parallel. That's that's that's very interesting because so much has come out of New York City and what New York City represents culturally historically I'm sure Freemasons and all that stuff that goes on there the architecture the energy the the occult rituals that happened through New York City. I mean that's, I mean Philadelphia is giant, New York City's right there with like it's how it vibrates through all of all of culture and humanity. That's right. Philadelphia, Reno is on there. Beijing is very big. The China, China's capital. That's that's huge. Madrid,

Starting point is 01:04:49 Naples, which is one of the most important cities in Italy, Greece, I mean like major empires are all, are all on this 40th parallel. 40th parallel. The America, Italy which is Rome, Greece is the Greeks. I mean they're all on this parallel. I mean it's very interesting. What's kidding in Greece is on the 40th? According to this document, uh, good luck on me saying it correctly but the Thessaloniki, okay? Thessalonica? Or that one? It could be even right. I'm guessing. It sounds like what you're saying. Yeah, that would be like the church at Desolonia, you know, from the Bible, thesolonia. Sure. Sure. I don't know that, but that's fine. But yeah, man. I mean, like that is it's a second largest city in Greece.

Starting point is 01:05:51 It's just, I mean, it's kind of crazy. And so, we'd like to build on what Mike was saying earlier to. Beyond just exploring the art, archetype symbolism, architecture we're finding along the 40th parallel, we're doing it in a way to inspire others to decode the cities that they live in as well. Because... These cities seem to be acts of magic. Whereas, all right, because we know everything is mind, everything is mental as far as creation, right? Y'all begins.

Starting point is 01:06:42 Right? Like the se, I think they call them the seven hermetic laws, seven laws of creation, like the laws of the matrix, you know? You know these laws, you can work the matrix. So one of the most important laws is that everything is mental. How that plays out in practical terms, if I want to manipulate you in alignment with omnivocal law, I got to tell you what I'm doing. Yes. Okay. That's huge. But now, I got you like your free will, you got to do this this thing in free will.

Starting point is 01:07:27 Okay, but if I told you in English, my diabolical intentions, like I just sat here and told you all the diabolical plans that I have for you, right? You will probably resist. You will not go along with it. So I'm going to tell you everything that I'm doing and what we would call the language of the Musics, which is art, art type symbolism, and architecture. And so I'm going to lay out the city in a way that I'm going to tell you all the ways I intend to exploit you, manipulate you, whatever, what I intend to do to the indigenous of the land, my future visions. I want to tell you everything in the way I lay out my city and my art.

Starting point is 01:08:31 Then it's up to you. Now the ball's in your court. You have to choose using your free will to pay attention to what I'm saying. And then you got to pay attention to what I'm saying. And then you gotta choose, and it's tricky, because you even gotta then choose to learn the language of the muses. To be able to decode what you're seeing. How many statues have you stood in front of? And you just walk away, thin like, y'all, what, what, what's, what, what, the free will. What, what the f-free? What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what? What, what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? to, to, to, the the the the the to say? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free? the free, the free, the the free, the free, the free, the free? the free? the the the the the the the the the the the to decode what you've seen. How many statues have you stood in front of? And you just walk away thinking like,

Starting point is 01:09:09 y'all, what the fuck was I just looking at? You know what I mean? Because you haven't chosen, use your free will to learn the language of the muses, to learn archetype symbolism so that when you see these statues you can decode it and break it down and like holy shit you know that this is what this is saying and then more often the spatial relationship of statues and buildings means a lot too meaning you might look at a statue and there's one level

Starting point is 01:09:47 of meaning to it. But then when you look at that statue in relationship to other buildings or other statues or other things in the landscape, the story is much more deeper, you know? So we've set the example for how you can decode your city and parse out the mysteries embedded in it. I love that. And I want to throw this into what you were just saying, Ross, is this stuff exists in that subliminal or subconscious. All of the statues and all of this information is laid out before all of us in a way which we don't talk about, but it's there.

Starting point is 01:10:41 So that's what I mean by subconscious. And if you've ever studied the house and wise of subliminal advertising or neuro linguistic programming or stage hypnotism or anything like that magnetism or mesmerism, you learn that once the subliminal is no longer subliminal, once it becomes conscious, once you see it, once you see that the illustration can be looked at two ways, like well then the magic disappears. So it's not even so much like there, as Ross was describing about learning the language and all this sort of stuff, like the question might be like, well why? Why would I want to do this?

Starting point is 01:11:22 What you're doing is your training consciousness in a way. And what you're doing is you're taking away subliminal impacts which are around us all the time. If you know, if you're born in this culture, you're born into, you're born into all of these subliminal messages constantly bombing our minds. And we talk about it a lot within Hollywood and Hollywood cinematography but Razz's points out like it is just as true and much much much older in the layouts of our cities. I completely agree with all this based on all these conversations I've had over all these years man I mean you take a look at New York City you take a look at Washington the architecture how the city has basically

Starting point is 01:12:06 been designed is all complete another symbolism, right? You know, so when they designed Washington D.C., they didn't think you would be able to see either that's an owl or it's like the the eye of Horace man. Like, you know, because they didn't have anything that sent you up there as a helicopter, right? It's like, it's like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is all, is all, is all, is all, the, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, the, is all, the, is all, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, all, the, the, the, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, is all, the, the eye of Horace man. Like you know because they didn't have anything that sent you up there as a helicopter, right? And we could get in arguments about space and flat earth and round earth, whatever, but whenever they were pushing their narrative, they never had a high powerful digital scope that could go out 500, 600,000 miles. That's all I'm saying, dude, like, and you're totally right. So I think right now we're entering this really huge thing

Starting point is 01:12:51 where we're awakening. We're never gonna get everybody, and most of these people on the internet are bots anyway, so you're not gonna get them to agree with anything, right? But I mean, like, you take a look at this, like how how, like, like, likes have happened that instantly now fall apart because everybody sees the calling cards of what they're doing? The first example where I thought that they lost it was Vegas. Vegas are like, oh, this guy, blah, and everyone's going, and now everybody's talking, like, hey, dude, I know it's this.

Starting point is 01:13:22 And people started putting pieces together. Everyone's like, this story makes no sense and they instantly, quietly, has there been a bit, has there been a shooting of that level since then? Nope. Like, I don't think so, like when you put it the way you just put it, like, you know, that this was like, this is because they've caught on to it. Because you're right. I don't think I can't think of anything that major that has happened which is which is majorly like part of a plan not a copycat sort of thing. Well there was the only thing after that became the Parkland shooting and that there was a lot that went out with that is not. Yeah I mean, but but they're slowly going. You had this. this. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. I. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. That. that. that. That. That. That. that. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. I., but but they're slowly going down. You had this. What was that? Because I was in Boulder. Oh, you had the Boulder one. You're right. Parallel. The Aurora. The Aurora. The Aurora. The Aurora. The Aurora one is still happening.

Starting point is 01:14:20 Ros is talking about this here. This is how it's gotten. Like, you know, Sam, you're talking about like the emotional fatigue of murder when you saw the dead body in the car accident. So, it was, when were you out in Boulder? It was in April or May of this year, and there was a shooting, a mass shooting in a supermarket, and for two days. For two days, we got to relive that experience because for 650 days, we have been reliving, like if you're watching the news, when I say we, I mean, the collective, has been living the terror of the COVID.

Starting point is 01:14:56 But then they gave us a little bit. They gave it to us in April, but then it disappeared. We can't even remember it. We can't remember that it happened, but I know it did because you were there. You know who you know who never forgets the fucking kids. They have shooter drills every once a month instead of fire drills is not shooting. They're trying to re-traumatize them. No, my son. You're right about that. Really. My son, well my two sons, the school they attend, went on lockdown last week because someone had threatened to shoot up to school on social media. And yeah, it was a crazy scene. It didn't make headlines or I think only one local news station in Philly covered it. But yeah, man, that thing shook up that school community. That person should be expelled. You know. They, they, they were. They, they were. They, they. They were. They, they. They were. They, they. They, they. They, they. They, they. They, they. They, the. They, the. They, the. They, the. They, the. They, the. They, the. They, the. the. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. man, that thing shook up that school community.

Starting point is 01:15:46 That person should be expelled, you know? They will do that, but the whole point is this, man, we've had these things happen over, like the Rhin House thing. They tried to get to key that thing up, and all the players came out. And it just got no traction because people see the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the game the game the players came out, and it just got no traction because people see the same game plan over and over again. The kidnapping of the governor of Michigan,

Starting point is 01:16:13 and then it comes out, like 15 were involved, 13 were feds. It's like, and the thing is like, and it's so funny because you know, they had this situation going on. You remember, they did it with the Iran and oh my god, they shot the thing is like, and it's so funny, because, you know, they had this situation going on. You remember, they did it with the Iran and, oh my god, they shot down our drone and they were trying to make it like they attacked, you know, Americans and stuff like that. And it didn't get anything. So what they do, they brought back Henry Kissinger to come back and all these old neocom warhawks to come back to try because they

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Starting point is 01:17:25 I can watch it right now. He's pulled the gate. They're taking selfies with people. It's not what they're telling you. And they're losing the information war. Am I humble. They had drones out at the riots. You don't think they had drones what happened. They know who in, they're just, they don't give it. They won't release any of it.

Starting point is 01:17:46 Do you remember, and I don't know if this was this year or last year, because I'm having a lot of trouble with time right about now, but there was an explosion at like a port city, maybe in Lebanon, somewhere like in the mettin. It was like the biggest explosion you've ever, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th me it was like the biggest explosion you've ever said I've ever seen and it went and for like two days You're like what the hell is this and then they said it was a fire it was like a in a warehouse There's a fireworks. And then they like you know under the heat they went off like whatever happened to that Like that's what because that apparently was a real thing like I would know that way videos of what they th like? th??????? th.? th.? th.? th.? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the't know that story. I don't know where that way videos of what they thought were missiles and what were in there But I I think it's also the The the new cycle's moving but I also think people are like man You're in you're just bombarding me with all this information about what's going on in the world. I can't I'm powerless against it. I'm just gonna try to tu. tell it off. I'm??? th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the the th. the the the the th. I. I. I'm? the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm the the the th. the th. th, I'm the the the the th, I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. th. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. the the that. the a the a the a that. the the the the the the th. I th. I'm powerless against it, I'm just going to turn it off, kind

Starting point is 01:18:45 of like what you guys are talking about doing with the internet, and I'm just going to start living my life and just live my life and make the changes here on a local level. I'm going to act globally, I'm going to think globally by acting locally, which is what's going on. So I want to get into real quick, what are things that people can do? Is there, is there, do you guys have a system set up so they can start studying their, their cities and going out and looking for symbolism? I mean, I do it all the time.

Starting point is 01:19:20 You know, we just had a guy on who does Jamantria andantria and like, he just like, everything's numbers to him. And I go, you gotta watch yourself, because you could fall deep into the abyss on that where everything's a number. But, you know, I look for symbolism all the time in what I do and I have to catch myself not to fall too much into, oh, this means that, and thi means th means, thi means, thi means, thi means, thi means, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to that, thi, to to, to, to, to, because, to, because, because, because, to, because, because, to, because, because, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, because, because, because, because, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to are there little things that that you guys tell people to do so they can start try to find symbolism in their thing and I would love to know your guys thoughts on tutaria as well. All right. You go first Ross. All right. One thing, the best thing to do is start paying attention.

Starting point is 01:20:07 Okay, most of us, you know, do we really pay attention to the art and the architecture that makes up our living environment, okay? That's the first thing, pay attention. And I would say photograph your artwork in your area. And that way you can load it to your computer, zoom in on it, really be able to study it more in depth, than you might be able to just, particularly if it's like an impediment or something, you're like near the top of a building, where you can't see the detail. So I will throw in a, I won't say a shameless plug, but Great Mystery Philadelphia and Free Your Mound and your mind will follow. Those are two books where, yeah, we drop the keys in there.

Starting point is 01:21:14 Tutaria real quick, I think it not to say that there wasn't a nation or a kingdom called Tataria in what, like, probably around, anywhere from Eastern Europe. Russia, what was that known as Russia? Yeah, Russia. It was a kingdom there back in the day. I would say that kingdom maybe had some association with the underworld. Tataria was a reference, is a classical mythology reference to underworld civilization. Oh, snap. But as far as Tataria being some global empire and mud flood,

Starting point is 01:22:13 that doesn't really add up to me, you know, personally, I think that's some historical rewriting. And I would say, if there is classical-looking architecture in the Americas that predates colonialism, the roots of that would be those Carthaginians, those Phoenicians, who were Rome's enemy, and it's documented that, you know, like Deodoros talks about this in depth, that the Carthaginian's main strategy was to keep Rome locked in the Mediterranean world. It didn't want Rome getting out into the Atlantic because they really coveted, and I'm talking about the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians, they coveted this paradisical land that was full of food

Starting point is 01:23:18 and full of resources, out in the Atlantic. And so, yeah, it's no mystery who, or what land, they're referencing. And yeah, I would think that they're the ones responsible for any architecture you would find, at least in the Eastern America's pre-colonial architecture. All right. So can I take a swing at the Tatarian one? Dude, swing at whatever you want to to. All right, all right. Because I, I love me some Tataria, but maybe not necessarily for obvious reasons. One of the ways which I look at reality and particularly how reality and

Starting point is 01:24:20 how reality and consciousness is shaped comes from stories. Like the stories were told, the mythologies were told regardless of culture. Like they play a really, really, really big part in terms of how we envision the future, if you will. And like just what Rouse was saying, it's like, you know, you control someone's picture of the story of who they were, well then you're going to control their trajectory, which they're on. Stories are really, really big deals. And undoubtedly, since 1945, you know, all of us modern cultural folks, storytelling has been weaponized against us. Storytelling is a very, very human

Starting point is 01:24:59 way of being, but the stories have been weaponized, just like all things, like, you know, have been weaponized against us. So when I hear to tariia, the their, their, their, their, they they they they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were, and they were, and they are, and they are, and they are, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and they they they they they they they were, and they were, and they were, and they were, and they were, they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. And the, the, the a thea. And thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea, thea, and thea, and. Just like all things, like, you know, have been weaponized against us. So when I hear Tutaria, when I hear the Tutaria story, I get very excited because it introduces a wild card to me. Like the stories which were particularly given, which were given as relates to our history, like, you know, we've got a couple different options. But this one is kind of so different,

Starting point is 01:25:30 and it rewrites, it asks a lot of questions. I'm particularly intrigued by the lack of toilets or bathrooms found in the supposed to Tatarian mud flood buildings, just because what it does is it begins to force someone to open up their mind and how they're looking at things. I sit me personally, I sit in a posture of like the whole thing's a friggin mystery. When I say the whole thing, I mean like being human. Like the fact that I'm in a body, but I don't know where I am.

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Starting point is 01:26:34 and let me go and comment also about, you ask the question about, like, techniques. I personally like, whenever I see a historical marker. Like, I know that a historical marker has its limitations with storytelling, but it gives me a place to start. Just as Ross was saying, start paying attention, stop, you know, like literally, like you know, that's what the phone does. It takes us out and they're begin looking at things, ask questions and assume that you've been lied to all you. It's a hard thing. Assume you've always been lied to, and even the things that you think are true,

Starting point is 01:27:08 at least be open to the fact that maybe they're not or they're partial troops and do it in a playful way, and then that opens so many different things. Like, that's my personal approach. I agree with that. I thaguuuse. I agree, and I agree, and I agree, and I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that. I that's, that. I that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that. I that. I that's, that's, that's, that's, th. I think you should question everything all the time. I think if you sit there, I mean, unless it's tangible, like I'm almost like, I don't believe any history unless I experienced it myself, right? And even that becomes questionable what really happened and how was, like in front of me and even that, right? I mean, like, if we watch an accident, right? Everyone on the show, we're on different points of that, of the intersection., like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, like if we watch an accident, right? Everyone on the show, we're on different points of that of the intersection, there's an accident, you ask us all what happened, you there will be five

Starting point is 01:27:52 different fucking accounts of what happened and you'd be lucky if you hear if two of a match. And even if you get an actual footage, that's just what that footage got. Yeah, that's a great, dude. I'm tel you. I'm tel tel, tel tel tel tel tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, tel, th. th. th. thu. th. th. thu. thu. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi, thin, thin, the the the the their their, their, their, their, the their, their their, their, their, their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. that's the the. th. th. th footage, that's just what that footage got. Yeah, that's a great, dude, I'm telling you, it's almost down to there are a million realities and each of us live a different reality. When I was in San Diego and I was walking, and I was walking, and I, San Diego doesn't like to tell you what streets there are. They just don't like streets. thi tho'a. And I go they they they they just they just they just they just they just they just tho, tho, tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho, to to to to tho, to to told told, they. told, to told, to tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their are their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.. they. they. tho. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. tooooooooooooooe. th. th. th. th.'re like, what street is this? And this woman on a mask was walking towards me outside by herself. And I go, hey, can you tell me what street this is? And you would think I had molten lava coming out of my eyes and death bangs?

Starting point is 01:28:36 She's like, I don't know. And she like was so afraid of me because I had no mask on. She's not living in the same reality that I am. You know, we're all talking metaverses. I think we're all in our own metaverse. What is our reality? How many times someone goes, hey, I hate when you do this to me, you're like, I don't do that to you. That's when two realities just, bam. Johnny mentioned it the other thing the thing with the Beatles. Beatles. Oh what? I don't know. How they all thought they all hated each other. And it's just yeah it's the same thing it's all a perspective on how you think people are looking at each other. There's no reality and it's just like so going back to what you're saying is you question everything and there is symbolism in there dude. There's so much you mean you want to see symbolism go to San Francisco. Look at the symbolism there. I mean the their. the their. the the the their. the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. they. th. th. th. they. they. they they they they they're th. they they're they they they they they they they they they they all. they they all. they all. they all. they all. the same. their. they they their. they their. they. they. they. Yeah. they. Yeah. the same. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. I. I. the. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same Francisco. Look at the symbolism there. I mean they're so, I mean the first time we did a Timfall Hout there, we just did a walk around, we're like, holy, look at that,

Starting point is 01:29:30 that's Freemason, that's Freemason. What is that? That's a rough child's emblem. That's all that stuff. And then, you know, it just doesn you have to be careful because that feels like a slippery slope right to moral relativism where there's no right or wrong you know it's just you decide what's right for you and I decide what's wrong for me well I mean like so if we get into like what is sin right you know you know yeah but then you thin you I just think that's a dangerous th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's a th. that's a th. that's a th. th. that's a th. that's a th. th. th. that's a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I's the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. I they. I'm. I'm. I'm. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I they. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. then you, I just think that's a dangerous path to, because it means that maybe there's no objective truth in the end, and that's kind of scary for me because it opens a door for people to justify wrongdoing, do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I don't, okay, do you want to say something, Michael?

Starting point is 01:30:21 Well, I was going to say, I agree with you. It is a slippery slope. And when you begin to become with have a greater degree of awareness and resolution into like your inner world, your consciousness, it becomes much more about nuance because it's not as simple as like on and off. And you have it and that requires a lot of, it requires maybe, I don't know if I want to say the word discipline, but I just want to acknowledge like you're right. It's a slippery slope, but if you, if you know what you're, and that requires to have a greater awareness of what you're doing and why you're doing that. And so like I'm kind of like, I'm being very thoughtful tha thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful thoughtful to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, and, and, and, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that, that, it's, that, that, thi. thi. thi and why you're doing that. And so like I'm kind of like, you know,

Starting point is 01:31:05 I'm being very thoughtful for the words I want to use, but like once you come to a realization of what's going on, well then like a lot of things which you did not think were were in question, now you have to approach with a greater sensitivity. And that's a truth truth truth truuuuu tru tru tru, tru, tru, tru, tru, th, and th, that's th, that's that's that's th, th, that's, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thooooooooooo. tho. tho. thi. that's a truth that comes with a responsibility that comes with like having greater awareness. I completely agree. And I think Johnny, when it comes to like,

Starting point is 01:31:33 to me, like there's all these different things, like what is sin? What, you know, it's like all these organized religions have told you, all you do this, you do this you do this God gets mad and which you know that could be whatever but I think there's it seems to be like there's really one scene is like sin is that is like did you bring pain and suffering the other people? Yeah but even that can be justified by these lizard people because they can say that we're doing this for the greater good you know it's yeah but that gets rejected you know like it's enough for them to justify it, you know, within their own sort of moral framework

Starting point is 01:32:06 if we believe that all moral frameworks are relative. But then we're going into us under seeing it and questioning what they're doing. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, maybe this becomes a vicious circle and we can argue that all the time? But I think like interpretation of stuff, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I would like to hear what Ross has to say as it relates to like universal law and how that what we're talking about is approached from that level of controlling reality because I think this brings in a lot of insight, Johnny. Please. Well, I think the laws of cause and effect would say that if someone was

Starting point is 01:32:50 operating like you say out of a relative moralism that wasn't aligned with what, omnivorical morality, right? They will have the lesson at some point, this incarnation or a next that would teach them like, yeah, not that moral, that relative moral idea you had, yeah, that shit was wrong, because now you're on the other side of it, you know, experiencing it. So I think that is part of why we're here to learn how to align our personal, what we personally or maybe as a small collective like a congregation or church, whatever, feels is right or morally what quote unquote God would want versus yeah what it really is or what you know was you called Maat in ancient Egypt or ancient Kimit, but, you know, being in harmonious oneness with creation, you know, a state of maat, a state of balance,

Starting point is 01:34:21 your reciprocity is is is balanced out. That's what we're here to learn. You know, who really knows? It's time. That's one thing. Time will tell. You know? So one of the things which I have found so so enlightening I suppose in listening to thes which I have found so enlightening, I suppose, in listening to the research which Ross has done is how he ties in different histories or stories from these ways, which I never understood and saw how they were connected, particularly ancient chemi to like what's going on right now,

Starting point is 01:35:02 and North America and all that. So that it's really, really fascinating. And I'm coming from that perspective. But a lot of what I have picked up from you and learned from you is like this understanding of how the application of being in alignment with universal laws, which is basically I'm not going to make someone do something against their will. And that was the whole thing with like looking at the statues and understanding it,

Starting point is 01:35:31 and this subliminal revelation of the method is like going back to the moral relativity in which we are talking about earlier Johnny, and where I was talking about a little bit about, like, it depends upon the degree of consciousness one is at, and that, and that, and th............. And, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and the, and, and thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, talking about a little bit about like it do it depends upon the degree of consciousness one is that because it's become subtle at the at the level in which the the folks whoever they be lizard people are not which shape our reality they practice a level of they're gonna do what they want to do by being in harmony with the greater law which is like I can't make someone do something against their will. Otherwise, I incur karma. The same thing will happen to me. And that's

Starting point is 01:36:09 how they do these sort of things. So then this goes back to, this goes back to then our own internal moral relativity. It's like, you know, we could try to go and look for loopholes for selfish acts, things where I benefit at someone else's expense. Or like, you know, you hold yourself to a different sort of, a different level of standard. And so that to me is, is, when you listen to Ross's work as it talks about the history going back from Kemet and particularly timeline manipulation as a technique to not have to incur one's karma,

Starting point is 01:36:57 like that can be applied to the individual, and I think that can be applied to the individual at this particular time in what's going on in the world. And is my personal opinion, it has to do, like we're at one of those places with what are we doing with how you're meeting technology. If you know all the stuff, you know, what are you going to do? Like, this is your responsibility. And we're individually, and that's why I'm being so thought so thoughtfulful with my words, because I'm thi thi thi, thi, th.. th. thi, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like tho, like tho, like tho, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. thi. th. thi. that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. We're, th. We're thi. We're tho. tho. tho. th. like I'm going to tell anyone what to do. I don't want to do that because I don't want a single M effort telling me what to do. But that being said, I'm kind of clear what I'm going to do for myself and that's that nuance. That's that nuance. I totally agree. And I will say there's like, all right. The list quote unquote, the lizard people, these ones in control, drinking blood, eating babies, all this stuff, right?

Starting point is 01:37:47 Things that I think we would say are morally abominations, you know, like morally reprehensible. No, like from our point of view, right? But they're like, they know the laws of the matrix. They can bend and work these laws in a way that it's not, as far as I guess you would say, God or the omniverse. They're not, uh, morally in the wrong. It's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's, you, you know? And, you, you know? And, you, you know? It's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, it, right, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, it, the, the, right, the, right, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and, it, and, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,the wrong. It's, you know, it's, I say it's very important for everyone to get the book called the Kabbalian by the three initiates.

Starting point is 01:38:43 Study that thing. That's one of the three initiates, study that thing. That's one of the most important books we have access to right now because it breaks down the seven basic omniversal laws, okay? And as long as you honor those seven laws, you would get what I think we would call as a concept providence. And this is something, this is like all the mysteries of the 40th parallel. Big part of it is this nation receiving providence. They can knock the Indians off the land.

Starting point is 01:39:27 They can invade other nations, manipulate their government. Do all take resources from wherever, but as long as certain agreements on how this nation was founded. And all those things were done right here on the 40th parallel, an alignment with prophecy. As long as that's honored, this nation will be, it'll have what they would call Providence. When you study Colorado, where I could say,

Starting point is 01:40:02 boulders, big important spot, right? Colorado's state motto is nothing without providence. And the continuity of governance, the space program, all these things that are centered out of Colorado. It's all really founded on this nation's providence. And this is a way that you know you can, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong, you really can't put a value judgment on it. All you can really do is observe it. And through your use of consciousness and free will,

Starting point is 01:40:55 disentangle from whatever agreements you may have made, or maybe your four parents have made for you so you're born into this situation, disentangle those agreements as much as possible. So I completely agree to everything you're talking about. I think it's very important that people learn the history, that's how they learn how powerful they truly are. Okay, these people work within a certain rule of the universe that we're slowly, surely over time the masses are waking up to. Okay, the reason they do false flags is because they have to get us, us as human beings to agree to doing it. It's the old lost voice. You got to let you got to let the vampire in.

Starting point is 01:41:45 That's the only he can't come in without unless you let him in. So that's what that's the whole you just nailed it. You have to invite it in. And that's that's the degree that's what they understand. And they've been doing this forever. And now people are starting to wake up that I don't have to allow this to happen. I don't have to agree to this and I'm going to push it away and it gets harder and harder and harder and harder to do. And so much of what we understand about our government, our military, our military, our politicians, is a shadow in the cave, man. They're like they scare, oh my god, the military is a thousand years ahead of us and they got stuff that they press a button We're all gonna be gay or whatever it is, you know

Starting point is 01:42:30 That this thing that they're gonna do to us yet they never do it yet they seem hell bent on Like just destroying us, so why don't they just do that? Why don't they just shut down the internet? Why don't they just shut down? th? th? th? the the their? their? their? their? their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, tho, tho, their, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, their, th. So, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr. So, thr. So, they's, they's, they's, thr-s. they's, throooooooo shut it down? Because I don't think they can. I think there's entities of light out there that understand these principles as well and they are working against it. That's just me. I will, if this show, if I ever become a full-on black pill guy, this show, this show will be done. I will never do a show where I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never the show. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never thi. I will never th. I will th. I will th. I will th. I will th. I will th. I will th. I will th. I will their their their their their their their their their their is their is. I will be their their their. I will be their. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never. I will never the the the the th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never th. I will never do a show where I'm just like, it's the end, enjoy this hour of us telling us how fucked you really are. I'm not going to do it, dude. I believe in hope. I believe in mysticism. The world's ran by sorcerers and you could be a mystic, man, and you control your energy. I'm talking to family members in my life right now that seem lost. Not that they're bad people. They just were never bad thired thired thired thired thi bad they're bad they're bad they're bad they're bad they're bad they're bad they're bad they're bad thi bad they're bad. they're bad. they're bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. they they're bad. they're bad. they're bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. they're bad. they're not bad. they're not bad. they're not bad. they're not not not not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. they're bad people, they just were never given any of this information. So I'm trying to sit down and talk to them about how powerful they really are. And how they can control their destiny.

Starting point is 01:43:29 And things are happening to them, they're happening for them. So that they can learn from that and asceny to a higher level. But no one's ever more interesting than that and I totally agree with everything we've talked about on this show today. Everything we've talked about is just completely makes sense. You can decode everything and you can look for the sign so when it happens in real time you know what's coming. Like those people are the people that didn't believe in aliens and now they're coming for you and now they're like, oh, you hear about aliens I'm like, God, I'm everywhere, right?

Starting point is 01:44:08 And I had a buddy of mine, my best friend in the world from high school man. He's like, I'd smoke weed if it was legal. I'm like, why are you allowing other people to tell you what you can or cannot do? Because there's been so much st so much stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm thi. I'm their their their their their their their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the's good for you and so much bad stuff that was legal. Don't buy crypto. Government tells you don't buy it. Yeah, I mean we're living in crazy times. Guys, this was an excellent, excellent episode, man. I love talking to both of you. I hope you guys stay on the internet enough that we can enjoy your conversation still.

Starting point is 01:44:42 And you don't just go like live in a cave somewhere. Would that be sad? And we would lose the power of your voice. But I completely understand. And yeah, man, I'm a big fan of both you guys. One more time, where can they find this new podcast you're working on? YouTube, I guess. Like, both me and Ross are the most untechnical folks around. And I think I do, I don't know if Ros does, but I wear that as a badge of honor. Both on either one of our YouTube channels,

Starting point is 01:45:12 I think you can you can find the videos, though, the most recent one I haven't uploaded just because I'm slow. I also have an audio-only podcast with an RSS feed, like more traditional that way. And that's the Susquehanna Alcamy podcast. And I think I'm gonna start putting minor Ross's stuff on there as well. So that's, that's gonna, that's where you could find me. And I wanna give Ross a moment to respond, but I'm gonna ask a request, Sam, I've got like a two minute story. I'm hoping like I can squeeze.

Starting point is 01:45:44 . I've got like a two minute story I want to tell and I'm hoping like I can squeeze that in. Five minutes to tell the story. That's how much I love hearing your stories. You can go. All right, all right. So I want to end out this. This has been a lot of fun. And I was I was kind of curious to be quite honest of how this was going to unfold because there's so many different energies in this group of people thi........ to. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thi. I thi. thi. I thi. I'm to to be to the the thi. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to the to the their their their their their their their their their th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I the. I the. I the. I of people who are talking. So this has been a great deal fun for me. But what I want to do, what I would like to do for those who are like listening at home, is this is the picture. This is kind of like the question, the painting which I'd like to have in their, paint, to pun, in their minds. So part of, you know, my experience experiences being Mike and doing all this sort of stuff and asking these sort of questions is I always come back to basic what is the nature of reality sort of questions.

Starting point is 01:46:35 You can't not go to that level. And that began with me really when I started what I refer to now as uncovering the Susquehanna mystery. Like seeing all this sort of stuff, but what was so strange about it was as I began to unfold or undiscover, reveal, I don't know, whatever word you want to use, all of this new information,

Starting point is 01:46:58 or put it together in a new way as it relates to the Susquehanna River, the strangest thing about that was the very fact that I've always, was that it was pointing to, where all of this research was pointing to, was literally where I was living at the time, and I just moved there. And I've been studying magic and conspiracy theory, and all sorts of weird stuff for at least 15 years.

Starting point is 01:47:23 Like I had a lot of it under my belt and I was asking myself, I'm like, did I create this? Did I really create this? Like, how coincidental is the dude who like knows this stuff like better than like anyone? Like the mixture which I am interested in have gone and created that exact same thing? So this is why, this is why this idea of like what is the nature of reality reality thiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I thi, I I I thi, I I I I thi, I I thi, I I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I, I thi, I, I, I thi, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm like, I'm like, I gone and created that exact same thing. So this is why, this is why this idea of like, what is the nature of reality? Am I making this happen? Is something being revealed to me? And I don't have an answer to that, but I hold those questions. So that was just the preface of the story.

Starting point is 01:47:56 Here's the story. So a big part of me, or the way I like I like I I I I I I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like to meet I like I like to meet I like to meet I like to meet to meet to meet to meet to meet to meet to meet to meet to meet to to me I like to meet to me I like to me I like to to me I like to me I like to me. I like to me. I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like I like to to to to to to to like to like to meet to to to to like to to to like to to like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the way I like to meet this Susquehanna mystery has to do with geology, like the physical land. And I don't necessarily look at it like a geologist, because I'm not quite that, like I don't have that type of mentality, but I learn from them. And part of that has to do with the mineral kingdom, the stones and the crystals,

Starting point is 01:48:25 and what I am particularly interested in. And so this goes back to like that question, like, well, what do you look for? Look for something that's unique to your own area. Look for something that happens in your area and nowhere else, and then start there. And so that's true with the Susquehannahanna there. And so that's true with the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, the Susque, thususususususque, thusque, thusque, thusque, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thusque, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi, to thi's, thi.. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, very unique mineral deposits which are found upon the Susquehanna River, found nowhere else or in higher concentrations

Starting point is 01:48:49 here than anywhere else on earth. And so one of them is anthracite. And all I'm gonna say is it's, it's a type of coal, it's the purest coal, and the highest percentage, like 99% of all of it on Earth is found in on the Susquehanna. And then the other, it's is a it's is a it's is a it's is a it's is a it's is a the the the the ther is a the it's is a the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's a the, it's a the, it's a tho, tho, the, very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very thauoom-oom-oom-oom-oom-oom-oes, thau. It's, thau. It's, thau. It's, tha, tha, tha, tha, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thii. It's, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. the, very very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, the. the. the. the. tho', tho'er. thoooo. the. the on the Susquehanna. And then the other is a Herkimer diamond. It's a very, very rare type of quartz crystal. Courts crystals happen everywhere. But only in Herkimer are we finding them with both water clarity and two natural points.

Starting point is 01:49:17 So I've been talking about them. I've been talking about them for years. And I've been like, you know, playing with stories, like what are these, what are these stones? And I tie it into Mormonism and Joseph Smith because that happened right in between where these two deposits are. So I've been finding, I've been talking about all this sort of stuff for years.

Starting point is 01:49:36 So about a month ago, about a month ago, you know, I like crystals. I like to carry around with me a lot. And it it it it it it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, and it, and it, I, I, I, I, I, and it, I, I, I, I, tho, I, tho, I, tho, tho, tho, I'm, I'm, and I'm, thi, and I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, to carry crystals with me. And there's one crystal I like to carry around with me a lot. And it's a Herkimer diamond. And so what I was talking about, and this was a Herkimer diamond that was given to me. It was like, you know, anytime that you can be given a stone, like that's a little bit different than if you buy it. given the stone by a guy in Herkimer, it's beautiful stone, carried around with me for many, many years, and it disappears. And I don't really misplaced things,

Starting point is 01:50:09 and it really kind of rubbed me the wrong sort of way. And it disappeared for like a month. And I talked about it in a lot of the shows, like I don't know where it disappeared. I'm trying to go down all of these different paths, the most crazy path or the most basic path. And eventually, and it was in a really, really, really dramatic sort of way, the crystal reappeared. I'm not going to tell you how it's dramatic because what I'm getting to is about two days after that I'm talking to a friend of mine completely out, unrelated to anything. And they just casually mentioned to me. They're like, hey, have you heard that they found these the new the new their tho their tho their tho their tho their their tho their just casually mentioned to me. They're like, hey, have you heard that they found these new types of Herkimer diamonds?

Starting point is 01:50:46 Yeah, they're found right on the Susquehanna River. So I've been talking about these two types of stones, the anthracite and hercimer disapeons for years, and then my hercmer disappears, and then right after that, that this new tipe, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, tho, right, right, tho, right, right tho, right, right, right, right on tho, right tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on right on right on right on right on tho, right on right on right on right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right on tho, right right, right, right, right, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theiii.. theii. theiiiii. theiiiiiii. thea of the, like a very, very small percentage of people on Earth who would really get what this means. And what this new Herkimer diamond is, is found, they don't even tell you where it was found, is almost like a blending, whereas the actual Herkimer diamond is water clear.

Starting point is 01:51:19 This has what you might call a smokier. It's like dark, it's like a blending of the anthracite and the herkimer, and it shows up, it shows up immediately after I've misplaced mine and it comes back in dramatic fashion and I have to ask myself a second time. And the reason why I'm telling this story and the picture I wanted to paint in everyone's reality or in everyone's mind, is at the end of the day, we really don't know what's happening to you. And I don't know what exactly is making this happen. I don't know if I'm just putting together pieces that don't belong to be put together, or if I am remembering a dream that has already happened,

Starting point is 01:51:57 or I am changing a timeline by talking about it. But what I will say, my friends say, if you begin to expand your relationship through awareness and loan, creativity and joy with the world we're living in, it will guarantee meet you with beautiful, beautiful stories. So that is the final story, that's the final picture which I wanted to paint in the listener's minds. Thank you very much for having me here, Sam and company. So I'm going to pass it on to you, Ross, right now. That was my conclusion. That was great. That was a great story.

Starting point is 01:52:31 It's kind of interesting. It's synchromysticism. And I think we've all been experiencing a lot of me last night. Happened to me last night. You know, where we're thinking something, thinking about somebody and they reach out or, you know, we, we, we, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was that was, that was, that was that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, the the th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. was, th. That was, th. That was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was thi was thi thi was thi thi, thinking about somebody and they reach out or, you know, we just so many synchromistic experiences. It's that time we're in. And, uh, I just want to affirm that. And, uh, yeah, my works can be found online Ross Ben.com are episodes from the 40th parallel we're at episode 12 right now we've actually more than 12 episodes because some we ran like some of the themes some of the themes some of the the topics we might have done two episodes on it, so we might call it 10 or 10.5, you know, part two.

Starting point is 01:53:34 So, but they're on my Rospin 188 YouTube. And yeah, check them out. They're organic and fun. Like you say, we're low tech. They are low tech, but they are fun. I feel like low tech is like a sure sign of like how gritty the information is, right? Like, I mean, dude, I get yelled at all the time because I have my kitchen in my background of half the videos I do. We're working on. But I just feel like The content so good who cares? I mean like I really love what I'm doing

Starting point is 01:54:10 Sometimes high-tech is too much to the like when it's too high-tech you're like what who's got money behind it? It's kind of like that person who's overdone at the bar and like everything looks like it should be Super hot, but when you actually break it down you're like wow that's not really that attractive. How many podcasts start like that now they start with all the tech and the studio and they start to try to. They start with all the tech and the studio and the studio and it looks slick and it just sucks and never gets off the ground they waste a lot of the things like Rokin' the show like if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if I I I I I I I I I I I I. if I. If. If. If. If. If I. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. It's not. It's. It's. It's. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's. It's. It's., yeah. Because he's got that studio where it's like NBC style. Well, you know, here's the last thing on Synchronicity and then went into show. Last night I was doing a live stream on Rockfin and so I'm brought, hey man, when you're gonna be I'm Rogan again? My answer is always whenever Rogan asked,

Starting point is 01:54:56 and if it never happens, I'm perfectly fine with it because my life is so great, Rogan's done so much for me. If he did anything more, for me it would be too much. So I'm so blessed and if it happens, happens, and in my head I wonder, like, because Rogan and I used to talk all the time and I go, man, I wonder, you know, and then there'd be a time where he texts me a bunch, and that he doesn't, and you know, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, th, and, and, th, and, and, th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, is, th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha, tha, tha, th as a human being and not this like giant presence in the world. And you know, I'm like, I wonder if Rogan's ever going to text me again.

Starting point is 01:55:28 And hand to God, I pick up my phone to see the time and there is a text from Joe Rogan. And he's show me a story in which Tony Hinchcliffe's talking about the first time he saw me do stripper in a wheelchair? He's going, hey man, we're just sending you some love, bro. And I'm like, that's some weird shit, bro. Because I ain't heard from that dude in a minute. I mean, once a while text me, but it was like, just, bam, there it is. Would you consider like a glitch in the matrix in a weird way? No, I just feel like, I just really do feel like it's like manifesting. I believe in manifestation, I believe in manifestation th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, thu, I thu, th. I th. I th. I ain't, th. I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I ain't, th. I ain't th. I ain't th. I ain't th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. thi ain't heard, th. thi ain't heard, thi. thi. thi, thi, th that though right because that would imply that you can man if you can make somebody else kind of do something you know it's not it's more like you're kind of your energy like triggers them to yeah no or his energy triggered me or I'm like that yeah it's a wife you connect to his Wi-Fi maybe maybe we're all just our own Wi-Bah Kabilian would say the law of law law law law law law law law law law the law the law the law. the law. the law. the law. the law. the the law. the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. th. that's. th. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. Yeah. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. I th. It's th. It's more. It's more. It's more. It's more. It's more. It's th. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It law of resonance. Yeah, resonance.

Starting point is 01:56:25 Your thoughts of each other put you on the same frequency. I'm buying that book, yo. I'm buying that book. I just bought it and a couple other books, because I said, why not? Yeah, we need a library. How many books do you buy? How many books do you have? I have all them. A lot. Because you've bought, I know at least a dozen on the show.

Starting point is 01:56:46 Yeah dude. Yeah dude. Yeah dude. Yeah, dude. All right guys. I love you guys very much. Great podcast. As always, you guys, I was so excited when I saw you guys are on today.

Starting point is 01:57:00 Because it's just like we're ending the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the year the ending the year with nothing but bangers. And you guys are a big part of that. Thank you guys so much. And I'll make sure to include your links in the description below. So if you want to find either of these guys, the links are down there. They've been on a show before, so hopefully you will already know where to find them. I love you guys very much. Guys thank you so much. I hope th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th than than than than than than than than than than than than than th. than th. th. thi. to thi. thi. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. their to to to their to to see you in San Luis Obispo, Buffalo, Long Beach, and Bakersfield next year. Come get weird and we will talk to you guys soon. Take care,

Starting point is 01:57:32 everybody. Love you. We go deep, home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional... My head. Wake up, Aaron!

Starting point is 01:57:53 This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind.

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