Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #549: Manifesting Monsters with Lon Strickler

Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys who we're talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haft. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:30 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Good! Mornings warm. Good morning. You just put my mind. You know what I'm going to get your mind blown? Good! Morning Swarm! And welcome to Timfaw Hat.

Starting point is 00:00:52 You know what I am? You know I'm here to rock. That's right. Sorry, my horse is. Sorry, my voice is a little horse from dropping to Hammer the Gods in Arizona. Thank you, Bisbee. Thank you, Tucson. What a fun time. Packed crowds. Got to see old friends or at least tried. And you know, here we are. Joining me as always is my good friend and yours.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 to Corpus Christi on April 9th two shows there then I'm going to Corpus Christi on April 9 two shows there. Then I also am going to be in okay April 23rd. I'm in Baltimore. Tickets are moving pretty cute. Oh, excuse me, April 22nd I'm in Fredericksburg. And then April 23rd, I am in Baltimore. And then at the end of the month, we're going Chicago. Okay, I'm doing, I'm going Palmdale, Chicago on the 29th, and which is going to be great two shows with Eddie Bravo. Those are really great. We got the live show, stand up and then we're doing Swarm Tank, where you get to talk to us, ask any question you want of us. We do a whole thing in that. Yeah, and then I'm at float fest on April 30th. So just go to Sam Tripoli.com for all of your tickets. Okay. We have some great. I have so much awesome content going on Rockfin. R.FIN, premium contents there.

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Starting point is 00:04:29 And Ryan doesn't have any social media, but if you could put his brother in your prayers, please do that. Now if you want to help off the grid, because we love off the grid, there's a Scott Davis Memorial Fund. And here's what I want to say. Scott loved Tinfall Hat. Scott loved Timfall Hat. He would come to our live shows all the time. He'd come see me at the comedy store. He was such a good dude. Real, real class act. He was a golf pro at a local, you know, club, golf club. And I mean, dude, super sad man. I just seen him like a week or two before.

Starting point is 00:05:15 Super happy guy. And just for him to want, if you, if you love the show, if you can make a donation again to the Scott Davis Memorial Fund and the links in the description, and we just love the help out off the grid, we love you very much if you guys could just keep Scott Davis in your prayers, just keep the, keep the Davis family in your prayers. That'd be greatly appreciated. So please enjoy the show. It's wonderful, we could do a deep dive into some cryptids

Starting point is 00:05:53 and also mind manifesting of cryptids. That was awesome. All right, guys, hope you enjoy the show. We enjoy doing it. And we will hopefully see you in Texas soon. Everybody. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic.

Starting point is 00:06:11 Drink, fun the fiddler. All right, guys, let's get into it. Since we just did a big foot episode and everyone, I mean, excuse me, dog man. We got a great response on, so we decided we'll circle back, get into some more crypted stuff. I figure there's not enough crypted talk in the world. We need more and more and more. And I'm very excited to have this next gentleman on.

Starting point is 00:06:35 He's been involved in just all this amazing crypted work. His research started, he started a blog in 2005. Man, he's a publisher of the syndicated phantoms and monster blog. Very excited to have this guy on, please welcome to Tim Foller. How are you, brother? I'm doing fine. Lon, thanks for join us. We really do appreciate that.

Starting point is 00:07:03 No problem. Hey, so Lon, for our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can tell us a little bit about yourself and where they can find you. Well, I've been involved with paranormal since the mid-70s, so I'm dating myself. I, um, I, you know, I first start out with, I'm an intuitive and I first started out doing, uh, uh, uh, um, I first start out with, I'm intuitive and I first started out doing infestations and hauntings and clearings and such. And until I had a big foot encounter back in 1981, where I was living at the time. And I later had a winged humanoid encounter in 1988. So, you know, that kind of got me going with the, these crypted, crypted beings. And that's kind of been the main focus of my investigations and research since. And though, I still do a lot of hauntings like, you know, investigations. But it's kind of an eclectic number of different types of investigations and research things that meet.

Starting point is 00:08:18 My team and I actually do. I have a team, fans of monsters research team. We've got 17 members. Yeah. And also have an affiliate groups. team, the Phantom's Monsters, Forty Research Team. We've got 17 members. Yeah. And also have an affiliate groups, which is over 25 groups nationwide, well, throughout North America.

Starting point is 00:08:34 So we try to, when we get reports, which I get a lot of, we try to get boots on the ground for as many as we can. So that's basically what we do. And of course, I do a lot of the reporting and what we're involved with and we've had some major cases over the years. And in fact, we've been on the ground floor, this Chicago Malthman phenomenon has been going on really starting in 2011, but since 2017 it's picked up. And we're at about 140 reports that we feel credible. And most of the activity at this point now, since October 2019 has been around O'Hare International.

Starting point is 00:09:20 Wow. So basically, the Mothman is pretty balsy, right? Because he's going into like big cities, especially like Shirek. Right, I mean, everyone's getting shot in Chicago. Now we got the mothman showing up being a tough guy. And it's like, it's, but it's like, you don't see a lot of cryptids in big cities, right? No, this is probably the first one and only one that I know of where we're getting a concentration of sightings in and around a large metropolitan area. And it's been a real enigma from the very beginning. We're starting to, I think we're starting to get closer to answers.

Starting point is 00:10:02 I think much of this is actually originating in or around the O'Hare International area around the airport for whatever reason. It seems that these beings may very well be altraterrestrial beings and they're coming in through some type of portal or gateway or opening at the airport and this seems to be where the concentration or sightings are happening at least now. But we've had sightings within 250 amount radius of the city ever since this all began. So yeah, we're very avidly involved in all this and we we try as much as we can to get people on the

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Starting point is 00:12:33 more residential and, yeah, these things make their way in there. So, so I want to get into the Motham, but you said something when you were kind of giving us your history, is you had a a you had a meeting with a winged creature well and it was and it was a crypted. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, this happened in 1988. I was living in Maryland. I was living in Baltimore. I had I was born and raised up here in Pennsylvania, but I had moved down there after I got out of high school. And I was born and raised up here in Pennsylvania, but I had moved down there after I got out of high school. And I was at a Boy Scout exposition outside of Baltimore.

Starting point is 00:13:12 And I happened to run into a friend of mine from back in Pennsylvania who was in Boy Scouts with me. And he was a troop leader by this time. This was 12 years after I left there. And he, um, he and I started to talk and bit, had sat down and had something to eat. And he knew I was involved with the paranormal because frankly he used to spend time with me out on the Gettysburg battlefields a lot when we were kids. We used to tamp out there. We used to see a lot of different stuff out there as well.

Starting point is 00:13:46 So he knew what I was involved with. Anyway, he told me, he said, you know, we've had some scout troops packing up and leaving out of the Kiel Camp Conawago this past summer because they keep hearing a screaming zone and they're freaked out by it and they don't know what it is. So he asked me, he said, would you mind going along with me and another gentleman to look into this? I said sure. So that next weekend, that next Friday I met them up there. And this is a place I was at many times when I was a kid. So we hiked into the woods and set up camp and we had three tents set up, fire going and such. And at first night it was pretty uneventful.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Didn't hear much or see much of anything. So, we just sat around the evening, didn't do anything, woke up next morning, and it was interesting, the guy who was with us asked, did you guys hear anything walking through the campsite? And I thought maybe it was one, I said I did, and I did. I thought maybe one of that was getting up to use, you know, latrine or some, but I didn't think any of it. And there was nothing disturbed in the campsite. So we went ahead ahead ahead and, and, and, and the the th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi the thi thi the thi thi the thi thi, thi, thin, the thi, the the the the the the the the the guy, the guy, the guy was the guy was the guy was the guy was the guy was the guy was the guy the guy the guy, the guy the guy the guy, the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was thin, th. It was th. It was th. It was th. that that that that, the the that, the the that, the th it and it was nothing disturbed in the campsite so We went ahead and set out that day and did some hiking in the woods and we were out a good long time. I mean we got back

Starting point is 00:15:15 We were just starting to turn dusk and it was about six and we sat down and start eating and start you know how these guys get together and just sitting around talking. And we were there until maybe like 10 o'clock that evening and then we heard a screaming sound. And it was coming from deep in the woods and it sounded like something was moving about, moving in and out or flying about. But you know, it, from what we heard that could have been anything, it could have been an animal because there's a lot of wildlife there. So we didn't think much of that. But about an hour later, we heard it again. And this time, it was much closer, much louder, blood curling, screaming, sound like a woman screaming,

Starting point is 00:15:56 a child screaming, and that called our attention. So we all decided, well, we all going to stay up the night and see if anything shows up. So. What, dude? Yeah, so we're sitting around the fire and talking and keeping an ear open. And you know, we just, I just, my legs got sore. So I was standing up, walking around, kind of stretched my legs. And I walked out onto the trail, which is rapist. We had the campsite, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tree. the tree. tree. tree. the the tree. the, the, thuil, thuade, thuad, thuad, thuad, thuad, thate, th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. What th. What tode, tode, that, thate, thate, thate, thate, thate, thate, thate, threate, thate an threate. threate. thate an thate an tooe an thate an thate. th walked out onto the trail which was right we had the campsite the trail then

Starting point is 00:16:29 on the other side of the trail was the Conawarga Creek and it was a fairly well-lit moonlight night you know so you can see into the woods in on the creek and stuff so I walked back I you know and I was out there I and on the creek and stuff. So I walked back, you know, and I was out there, I just had this weird feeling. You know, I told you I was intuitive, you know, how you get, like something's watching it or something. So I went back and said, hey, let's go out on to the trail a bit and just walk up and down, see if we can come up on that and thinne. So, you know, we all grabbed their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, to come, th. to come, to come, to come to come to come tho. their thin. to come, to come to come, th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to get, to get, too. too. to too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. tooe. tooe. tooe. tooe. tooe. t out back to back on the trail. And we didn't get far away, really. We just kind of couple steps out there. And we all noticed to our right, something with red eyes. I mean, these were very bright red eyes.

Starting point is 00:17:20 It was just like, it wasn't like it was something reflecting light. And it was right something was projecting light. And it was right in the middle of the creek and by the time we got our lights on this thing, it jettisoned itself up into the air, let out a horrible screaming sound and then flew away. And we could hear it as it went away. So we hauled ass back to the campsite sitting there. My friend wasn't talking. He was freaked. And the other guy who was with has said, did you see something on its back?

Starting point is 00:17:55 And I did. It looked like some type of wing structure on the back. But I never saw any wings come out. You know, I never saw anything unfurled. So, uh, anyway, they, you anyway, my friend wasn't, he wasn't speaking and he, then he piped up and said, look, I'm not sleeping here night. I'm going up in the administration building to spend the night. Yeah. So they both went up there. And I'm like, this is like every black comics joke about white people. Like, they hear some crazy shit. Andthen they're like let's go investigate. Well that was me because I wanted to stay and see what it was you know this is what I do so but nothing else happened that night it was quiet so 20 years later I'm working on doing the

Starting point is 00:18:42 blog you know by that time and a few people that I knew, knew about this story, about this account I had, I never published it before. So I went ahead and wrote up about it, put it out there, and I started getting responses. And in fact, somebody who had lived at Dick's Dan, which is just upstream from there, email me and said, that he'd been hearing a screaming sound for over 20 years didn't know what the hell it was. And he said, well, maybe I have an idea what it is now.

Starting point is 00:19:12 So, but not long after that, I got another email from a scout master. And he told me, he said, you know, a couple weeks ago, my, troop and I were out of Conwaygo. And it was afternoon, my boys were out on the trail just screwing around like they always do. And he said they came running back, screaming and carrying on and told me they saw what they called a dragon. Oh my God. And he said, well, I thought they were screwing with them, you know, how kids are. And he said, I didn't believe them. But they were. they were. their. their. they they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. their. they were. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, well I thought they were screwing with them, you know, how kids are. And he said, I didn't believe him, but they were frightened. So he said, I didn't think much of it. So, um, but now he read what I wrote. And, uh, yeah, so he thought, well, maybe they were serious about it. So in the meantime, now since that, since 2008,

Starting point is 00:20:05 I've had five or six sightings along Conover Creek of this thing. Now, Conover Creek extends out several miles west and goes eastward back toward Suspianna River. So it's about a 25 mile stretch, but I've had several people contact me about having encounters with this thing along the creek. So, so, I mean, we're living in crazy times right now, right? Are you seeing any uptick in encrypted sightings? I am in a way, but I think it's more, more has to do with more people seeing this stuff? I am in a way, but I think it's more, more has to do with more people seeing this stuff

Starting point is 00:20:50 on the internet are less inhibited about coming forward. You know, there was a time where you had to pull teeth and get stories that, you know, it encounters out of people. But I think nowadays people are more open to it. But of course, when you're getting sightings like what we've been having in Chicago, and people are seeing the same thing and they have no idea other people have been seeing it and they contact you and tell you the same story. Well, then you've got to figure something's going on. And that's what we've been doing.

Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, with other cryptids, yeah, it has increased. Overall, it has. But like I said again, I think it has a lot to do with people being more open-minded about it. Do you think this is a mothman? Is a man, are we misgendering him? And also, do you think there's more than one? Oh, I think there are a lot of different winged humanoids. I mean, they can call them all in terms of Chicago. Well, Chicago, yeah, I think it's overall. It's a it's it's a faction of altruestrial beings. I think there are several different ones.

Starting point is 00:21:59 I think they're individuals that may look different on the other ones. You know, just even even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, even, the they're individuals that may look different on the other ones. You know, just even early on when we started looking into this, I thought we had at least three different wing beings being seen in and around the city for a lot of different reasons. Some were a little bit different, some active difference, some were different locations at the same time. So I figured, yeah, we had at least three of them. But at this point now, I think we may be dealing with dozens of them. All throughout Chicago. Pardon? All throughout that upper Midwest area, yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Can I ask, we had, like Sam was saying, we talked about dog man last week. And that name, man is kind of that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, at at, I at at, I at at, I at, I at, I at, at, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the same the same the same the same thii. the same the same thi. We thi. Wea, thi. I'm thi. I'm that, that, that, that, we had like Sam was saying, we talked about dog man last week, and that name, man is kind of included in that just because it's bipedal. But it seems like with this with this creature, it's included in that because there's some intelligence implied, right? Am I right about that? What are you? Or is it? They're bipedal. But what I'm saying is, is it also intelligent? It seems like you might be thinking it's like sentient. Is that right? I don't know. I think they have some supernatural aspects to them and have some type of maybe technology involved with what they are. Deeper instinct maybe. Deeper instinct maybe. They can, and I'm going to go out on a limb here,

Starting point is 00:23:30 because we have talked about this in the past that we have backed off a little bit. We have had contact with some of these things. Really? Yeah, and it's something we've been working on more intently since around July and August of this year. And we have some individuals on my team who are highly intuitive and psychic. And they have been communicating with a few of these beings by name. And it's interesting because I know they're not, I know these folks are not pulling my leg

Starting point is 00:24:06 because we have, we've had instances where they have been contacted at the same period of time and, you know, very long distances apart and they have told me what has been said to them without them communicating with each other. So I know something's going on. Now it has kind of lessened lately, and I think there's some reasons behind that, but I'm just not going to really go into that because we're kind of at this baby step level right now where we're trying to gain trust and trying to get more information as to what's going. But several people in my team have been, have had encounters

Starting point is 00:24:54 with these things, even one, it was at least a physical encounter. And so what you're saying right now is that there's also been people who've communicated with these creatures and it's through telepathy? Telepathic physical contact. You know, I hate to say channeling, but that could very well be as well. You know, channeling just does not stay just on the spirit realm. Channeling can be done through some type of ethere or some type of being from another reality or another dimension. It's almost like remote viewing. But yeah, it's happened. That's incredible. Yeah, and this is what this is what we're working on now. We're, you know, this is kind of like the third stage of what we've been doing from the

Starting point is 00:25:50 very beginning and we're getting more and more into it. And of course, the sidings are still continuing. But because of that, we are handling it in a different way in order to kind of meld the whole thing together. You know, some of the settings that we've had out of O'Hara by individuals who worked there by pilots, air traffic controllers, TSA people, other security people, as well as there's been some UFO sightings out there too, associated with these as well as other humanoids. It seems to be some relationship, but not for, not for what people may think. I think that there are factions working against each other with this.

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Starting point is 00:30:15 almost like, you know, the Royal Rumble at Resselmania, right? They show up and it's like, dog man, big foot, moth, and they all just come and mix it up and sometimes they mix up with each other and something they mix it up with us and it's just a giant roar, rumble. What do you think of that? I think most cryptids that we know of even some of these humanoid beings that people may call extraterrestrials or aliens, I think they're all alter terrestrials.

Starting point is 00:30:50 And I think they have the ability to move in and out of dimensions, their dimension and our Earthplane dimension. I think we're very linear, very close. And I think that's what we're seeing. You know, I just like the Bigfoot in particular, I think there are areas where Bigfoot like creatures are indigenous. I mean, that they live in groups, that they live on this earth plane. Like in the Pacific Northwest, down in Florida, maybe around the Gulf Coast, maybe some areas up into Canada.

Starting point is 00:31:26 But for the most part, when Bigfoot sightings are made, they're usually of these singular beings that are very fleeting. They seem to disappear quickly and a lot of times when they look at you they act like they're surprised that you can see them. And I think that these beings are alter terrestrials and that they show up, are able to show up, they have some aspect of the supernatural with them, to where they can move in and out. And in fact, I think they cloak as well. I think this, there's a phenomenon, the phenomenon, there's a phenomenon, the phenomenon, the phenomenon, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th...a, the.e.a, theateatea.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. I.a. I.a. I's, thea.a.a. I's, the. I as well. I think this, there's a, there's a phenomenon called Glimmerman effect, almost like the predator movies where these, um, these glass scene-like

Starting point is 00:32:15 looking deans are seen. I think for the most part, these are cryptids that are actually camouflaging themselves. And they're shocked when we could see them? I think so. I think many in many instances they are. And do you think their technology is why we can never really get a proper filming of them? I don't know if it's technology or it's just their supernatural abilities that that calls that. Yeah, I've always wondered why very few photographs or films are stable enough that we can make a, you know, make a clear description of what they are. Occasion we get one. But, and for the most part, they're usually what people call blob squatches or something else. It's just not clear.

Starting point is 00:33:13 I think because of their abilities, I think they have some means to maybe distort that or distort their sightings physically, I mean visually. I think that many of them possess, possess the, some type of, infrasound. There are many instances where people say they encounter these things and they just literally are told, or realize that they should not even be encountering these things and they just literally are told or realize that they should not even be encountering these things and back away from them. So yeah, I think for the most part much of what we see and that are reported to us in all different aspects of the of cryptids and the paranormal.

Starting point is 00:34:02 I think a lot of that's there's a fine line between all these things. And I think a lot of that's, there's a fine line between all these things. And I think a lot of them are coming here from other, from other dimensions or may possibly realities. Is it that if you don't believe in it, you can't see it, is that your belief? Is that I think because like if I tell you a certain kind of fact and you don't want to believe it, you'll never understand it. And if you don't believe in a Bigfoot or a Mothman, you'll never be able to perceive it if

Starting point is 00:34:31 it was in front of you. I don't believe that's the case. I mean, when I had my Bigfoot encounter in 80. I had never even thought about seeing a Bigfoot, let alone. Hold on. you saw Bigfoot? Yeah, I had an encounter in 81. God dang, man, talk to me about it. Well, I was living in Sykes Full, Maryland at the time, this was 1981. I was fly fishing in the South branches of the Potapska River, which is in this area I've been to many, many times.

Starting point is 00:35:09 And it was a May, it was May 9th, 1981. I was out there, I was in my boot mount, my hip waiters, and standing in the river, and I happened to notice on the north, the north bank, this dog just mosing around on the bank. And he wasn't far from me. I mean, this, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, thi, thi, thi, I had thi, th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've th, I've thi, I had thi, I had thi, I had th, I had th, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had th, I had, I had th, I had th, I had th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi on the north, the north bank, this dog just mowsing around on the bank and he wasn't far from me. I mean this at this point the river is not too wide. So I just didn't pay him attention. Then I heard a yelp. I heard the dog let out of yelp and I looked over there and I saw something standing up into the weeds. The weeds were kind of chest high to this thing. And I, I, I, I, I, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was it was it was it was it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. It was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, it was, thi. thean. theananananananananananan thean thean thean thean thean thean th I was looking at. I mean, it was it was hairy, it was dark in color and you know, so I kept watching it and this thing moved to my left and walked out of the weeds and turned and looked at me.

Starting point is 00:36:01 And it was completely out of the weeds just standing on the river bank. It was about eight foot height. It was very muscular, definitely a male. I could see the genitalia in this thing. It had a body that had lots of matted hair on it. But the head and the head, now the head was conical on a way, but the face looked like, and on what I described as neandrothal looking,

Starting point is 00:36:29 at a very large brow ridge, but the face itself looked more human than it did ape. And we were very close. I mean, I'd say it was within 40, 50 feet of me. We were really close. And, I mean, to the point. I mean, the the today, the the the the the the the the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head, the head, the head, the head, the head, the head. the head. the head. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the head. the head. the head. the head. the the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the head. the the head. the the head. the the the the the the feet of me. We were really close. And to the point why I could hear it making a clicking sound. And I thought it was, you know, at the time, I didn't know what that was. But as the time has gone by, I've learned that people have heard these things making these clicking sounds. I think they gnash your teeth. I think they gnash your teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth teeth. I tee th. I th- th-tie the the the. I the. I the. I theatheded the. I the. I th-I th-I th-I they'd they'd the. I their they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd the. I'd to to to to to to to to to to to to toge. I'd to tolde. I'd to told, I'd to to told, I'd to to to told, I'd to to the. I think they gnash your teeth when they're in a nervous situation or something like that they don't understand they they gnash your teeth. It's almost like a reaction to seeing them. I did get a whiff of like a fox urine smell, but nothing. Yeah, did they

Starting point is 00:37:17 stink? I hear they stink. Well, some people say they do. Some others don't even smell. I just happened to smell a, like a fox urine smell. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're, they're, they're, they they they they they they they they they don't, they're, they're, they're, they're they're, they're, they're, they're. They don't. They don't. They're. They're. They're. They. They. They. They. They. They're. they. they. they. their. I. their. I. I. their. I. I. I. I. I. I don't, their, their their their th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't thin. I don't their their they're not not not not not they're not not their their their. others don't even say they don't even smell. I just happen to smell like a fox urine smell, something I used to use my go hunting, I put in my shoes to mass motor. Yeah, it was nothing more than that. And we stood there for about a good 10 seconds and it just turned on dime and walked briskly up into the woods. Now of course I didn't know what the hell I was looking at. I've heard a big foot. I mean, this was back in early 80s, so of course we knew about the Boggy Creek thing and all that, but I didn't really think much about it. So I drug myself out of the river,

Starting point is 00:37:57 got up to my car and drove into the town. And it was only a mile drive and I got to the... Was this after or before the Mothman citing? This was after. I mean this was before. This was seven years before. Oh, this was so Bigfoot was before Moth. Yeah, the Bigfoot was the first crypted sighting I ever had. Oh, snaps. So, uh, I was, uh, 23. 22, something like that. Yeah. And, uh, so, um, I drove into town. And I, I, I drove into town. And I found the first phone, first pay phone I could find and I called the local cops. And, uh, they-uh, they were kind. their, their, their thank. they-Triven I thank. their thirty. thing. thing. thing. thing. th. th. th. things. th. th. things. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the their their their their th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the. the the. the the thin th. the the th. th. the th. I called the local cops. And I told them what happened. You know, they were kind of nonchalant like, you know, yeah, okay, you know. So they said, well, the girl on the phone said, well, look, go ahead and drive back to where you were.

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Starting point is 00:39:34 I said, okay. So I didn't argue with him. So, you know, I went home. So about an hour later, I just said, well, shoot, I'm going back up there and see what's going on. So I drove back up. And when I got up there, about a quarter of mouth from where it happened at, there were cars already lined up and down the road. And I parked the car, walked up to where the barricade had been. And then there was a Howard County police officer standing the the them. And I was looking out and I mean there were people everywhere. There were these guys with dogs must have been a half a dozen out there.

Starting point is 00:40:14 They had a big white tent set up on the opposite bank where I had not sighting. There were state police there. There were federal, federal officers there, there were county police, there were federal officers there. They used to drive as black wagoners back then. They weren't SUV, the wagoners. And I did hear a helicopter, but I didn't see anything. So anyway, I asked the cop.

Starting point is 00:40:42 I said, so what's going on? He started laughing, he said, well, somebody said, they saw a big foot. And I'm thinking I said, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, I'm not, well, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the federal, I'm the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, the federal, I'm, I'm, I the federal, I the federal, I the federal, I, I the federal, I the federal, I'm, I'm, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the the the the the they. they-I'm not their their their their their the federal, I'm not the cop, I said, so what's going on? He started laughing, he said, well, somebody said, they saw Bigfoot. And I'm thinking, I said, well, I'm not telling this guy what I, I'm the guy made the call. So I said, oh, okay, well, I stood there for a bit, then I walked back, got in my car and left. So when I got home, I started calling the local television stations, which there were three I called in Baltimore at the time. And they all sounded very interested in what I saw and everything. And so, give us a day or two to dig into this, and we'll get back to you.

Starting point is 00:41:18 Okay. Well, four days later, I haven't heard anything. So I called one of the stations up, talked to the news editor, and I told him how I was, he said, yeah, we don't want to talk to you and hung up on me. So I said, okay, so then I knew something was up. So what I found out later, you know, after all these years, and, you know, I really got interested into all this then. That's when I, you know, there had been in the early 70s, 72, 73, there had been sightings

Starting point is 00:41:53 of a big foot in that area of Sykesville, and they called it the Sykesville Monster. And it made national news. I never heard of it. But this being, his Bigfoot like being, was breaking into homes, chicken pens, garages all up and down the river. Now, this part of the river was a mostly African American neighborhood. And I happened to work with one of the guys who lived there. And he introduced me to a lot of people who had been involved with the earlier investigation,

Starting point is 00:42:37 which was what, eight years before that? And I did. I got some really interesting information from people. And I was hooked. I mean, that's where I really got into it. In fact, I was finding people who had never made reports before. So, yeah, so. Did you, are there a lot of black people that see Bigfoot? Like you were talking, what did, what do you think that is? And how long to

Starting point is 00:43:07 Jordan Peel does a movie on? I you know even in Chicago we've had a few black witnesses we have. But you know it is as overall we haven't had that many as far as the paranormal sayings, but you know, we have. I mean, I lived in that community. My wife of 33 years was African American. So I was involved with a lot of the family, a lot of the community. And, you know, so, you know, it was kind of easy for me to get, to go into there and do these type of investigations. So, as, and as time went on with this, with this incident of mine, I, I was contacted by one of the local police officers who verified what had happened that day. And it turns out the BFR eventually after

Starting point is 00:44:06 they started up in 95 and started putting reports up on the internet that there had been a report about three miles downstream from where I had my sighting that same day earlier that morning, the woman who had seen a big foot. But that still doesn't explain why the government and all these people got involved with it. Now my best, my best recollection or thoughts on this is the. the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, the area, their, their their their their th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they they thi, thirty thi, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. they thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thirty, thirty thirty thirty thirty today today today today today today today today today today thin. thirty thirty thirty thirty thirty th explain why the government and all these people got involved with it. Now, my best recollection or thoughts on this is the area, that area is between Baltimore and Washington. It's a very strange area for people who just don't know anything about the government and the powers that be.

Starting point is 00:44:39 There's a lot of different facilities out in the Boondocks that people just don't know what they are. And that Potapsco River is no different. There are research facilities all up and down that river and all different parts of around, you know, these suburban areas of Baltimore and Washington. So I believe, and I still believe this that this was a, this was some type of being from an experiment or some type of project they were working on it, that got away. I do, that fits into all of the like, you know, the, uh, the, uh, what's that movie? What's that movie? Something things? Stranger things? Stranger things? Yeah, that fits into that, that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. It's, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. It's thi. It's some some some some some some, thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It is that on Netflix? Stranger things. Stranger things. Yeah, that fits

Starting point is 00:45:25 into that Montauk. I went and studied the Montauk monster and stuff like that. That fits right into it. Which leads into my next question is, have you ever been visited by men in black? And who do you think the men and black are they humans? Are they CIA? Are they interdimensional? I have been visited by government people. If I get too close to something in a case, that's happened a couple times to me. But I've never had a met and black encounter. I mean, you know, not from what people describe it to be.

Starting point is 00:46:00 No. And I don't think the men and black are humans anyway. I think they're non-terrestrialtertertertertererererererererererererer. I they're kind they're kind they're kind they're kind they're kind they're kind they're kind their their their their their. their. their. their. their. they're kind they're kind they're they're their. their. their. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their't think the these men and black are humans anyway. I think they're I think they're a non-terrestrial beings. I think they're kind of the cleanup crew from when people see stuff from whatever alien race or whatever alien faction is involved with maybe a UFO sighting our encounter. And because a lot of times when these people have these men and black encounters, it's not too long after they've seen something. And in fact, many times just before they even had a chance to report something. I mean, a couple minutes or 20 minutes, 30 minutes after the sighting, these guys show up somewhere and say, hey, you didn't see a thing or this and that, and you know, so I think they're kind of the cleanup group.

Starting point is 00:46:46 You know, in the movies you see them with the flashy thing and not, yeah, I think they I think they literally go in there and tell people you just did not see it. Nick, they are somewhat threatening. What do you think is the purpose behind the US government not wanting us to know about Bigfoot, not wanting us to know about, you know, aliens and stuff like that. I think, I think maybe aliens but cryptids more important. I think it has a lot to do with, well, it could be a lot of different things, but I think how our government is set up that,

Starting point is 00:47:26 and I had nothing against people trying to protect wildlife protecting things, but I think it's established that there are some of these things living in an area that things may, laws may be passed to protect them. And when every time that happens, somebody with money gets screwed over and then there's a big hub of it. And, and their things, the hub of it. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the th, the thi, the the the thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, they, they, their, their, their, their, the. And when every time that happens, somebody with money gets screwed over and then there's a big hubbub about it. And I think that might be one of the reasons behind it. You know, there are some states now

Starting point is 00:47:56 who unofficially recognize these beings and, you know, kind of ask people to leave them alone. But as far as on the federal level, I, I think, I think, I th th th th th think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I the, I think, I the, I the, I think, the, the, think, think, the, think, the, the, thinks, the, thinks, the, the, the, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their, their their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thinks, thinks, thinks, their, thinks, their thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks, their thinks, their thinks, thinks, their thinks, their their th ask people to leave them alone. But as far as on the federal level, I think they're going to try to keep most of this type of thing quiet to kind of dispel anything and start some type of ramification that will end up in hurting people, you know, people, the powers to be, to lose money and to lose property and such. Do you think any of this wildlife stuff is about protecting these cryptids? Like in terms of like, you know, we have, there's a bunch of discussions on Eisenhower and his meeting with the quote-unquote interdimensional beings with the Nazis Project High Jump and his deal he made with them about our national forest. Do you think there's any validity of that? Yeah, I think there's some. I think Eisenhower did have contact with these things,

Starting point is 00:49:01 but I, you know, it's never really been established as to where and how the whole thing came across. There's a lot of speculation, but I think that him and maybe other governments have had encounters with these beings and have deals and such. You know, of course, people talk about the Nazis and all this. I think they did. I think they did receive some technology to help advance into a certain degree, but fortunately they never got anything that was gonna cause any real damage, you know, like the nuclear weapon or something like that,

Starting point is 00:49:40 or some type of weapon that would, you know, you know, make things go easier for them. But I think there is, I think there really is some proof that are some, you know, conjecture, you want to say that they did get some help down the line somewhere. Do you think that there's anything to this missing 411? Yeah, yeah, I think there is, but I don't think it is what most people think it is. What do you think it is? Is it Nazis from the future? I think it's um, I think people are are literally walking through portals by accident or actually going through some type of a rift

Starting point is 00:50:30 unintentionally and are lost. You know, there are thousands, tens of thousands of people go missing every year worldwide, that are just never accounted for again. I mean, there could be a lot of reasons for that. But when it comes to what David Pilates and others have been reporting in these parks and areas around the United States, which includes a lot of children being going missing. Yeah, I think there's, I think there's I think there's something to something

Starting point is 00:51:06 opening up and swallowing people up somehow. I just don't think it's big foot or some creature or aliens taking them. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But I think that I think for the most part it has something to do with some type of dimensional riff. Now have you had any any of these cryptids communicate with you? Outside the clicking, nothing. But have you talked to people that have had communications? A few. And what do they say it's like? Well, they talk about this, something basically that they're being told to back off.

Starting point is 00:51:44 Like, I think it might be like infrasound or something to that effect. Some people think it's psychic connection, yes, B, or something. I don't know what it is. But I think it's, I think they have the ability to kind of word people off and try to warn them before they do anything that they really would regret. I don't think think th think th think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi they they're they're thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I their. I their. I their. I thi. I thi. I thi. I their thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thia. I'm thia. I'm thia. I'm thia. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I before they do anything that they really would regret. I don't think they're aggressive for the most part. I just think they want to be left alone. If they're here from another invention, they're here for a reason to do something and go back. I don't think they, I think they try to avoid any type of encounter. Yeah, it sounds like me would Croft McGaw. Just I don't want problems, but we can

Starting point is 00:52:26 do it if you want to. And then I kill people with my hands. So it's, so is there like one of these cryptids that you really are like, it's your Moby Dick where you're like, I got to see this creature. And let me start this before before you say that. Is there one creature that you're tired gotta see this creature. And let me start this before, before you say that. Is there one creature that you're tired of hearing about? You're like, I'm like, I just saw this like cross-eyed monkey running through the junk, and you're like, I don't want to hear about it. No, no, I, you know, I'll be honest with you. I'd give every person benefit the doubt at first and I, you know, when I figure they take time to call me or contact me, I'm part of their encounter.

Starting point is 00:53:09 So I give them every benefit of the doubt until I figure out otherwise that they're not telling me, it's just not true. So, yeah, I mean, and look, there's just a lot of weird stuff that happens. Yeah, dude, yeah. You just don't, it's at the point now, we really, when I say enigma, that's a perfect word for it because I think a lot of the a lot of the paranormal cryptids, the whole, the whole ball wax are connected somehow. We have encounters where people, see I have a big foot and they'll see some wax are connected somehow. We have encounters where people,

Starting point is 00:53:46 see I have a big foot, and they'll see some type of orb, or they'll see a UFO, or you'll have a haunting, which will turn out to be some type of extraterrestrial or non-terrestrial being involved with it. I mean, there's just a lot of things that overlap with each other. As far as myself,

Starting point is 00:54:14 the only being I really don't want to have an encounter with are these upright canines, these dogmen. I just don't like the whole thing about that. Dogmen seem nasty. Well, they, they are, they stand the ground. They don't necessarily seem that they're going to attack people people their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their to to myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself myself, they are. They stand the ground. They don't necessarily seem that they're going to attack people, but they do stand the ground. And I've had, you know, I do, we've done a lot of investigations here in Pennsylvania for the last seven or eight years now, and we've had some pretty credible sightings, and though they're all anecdotal, you know, it's just that the way these things react, you react to people,

Starting point is 00:54:51 like we've had hunters that are literally walked up to these things by accident. And they be armed and this thing, this nine or ten foot dog man is standing in front of them. Yeah, they're gonna back off and, you know, nine or ten feet. Damn, dude. How do you accidentally walk up on a dog man? Well, you know, you're out in the woods and you've got things are camouflaged. You get something that's kind of just poking out of a bush or something and it's not too hard to walk up on it. We've had people have had these things literally manifest in front of them.

Starting point is 00:55:32 So there's a lot of different things. Just like most cryptas, I think there's supernatural aspects to them as well. I think they have abilities to move in and out. And yeah, I think that's how they show up. Have there been there been there been there been there been there been there been their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. these th. these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. And yeah, I think that's how they show up. Have there have there been any wars that you've heard about? Like any like dog man versus a big foot and it's like a alien versus predator. What was that show on MTV that Claymation show where they used to have celebrities fight each other? Yeah. Crypted. I have one he ever heard a well you hear a lot of anecdotal stuff from the past. The only one I know of in recent times was a habituation area up in northern Minnesota,

Starting point is 00:56:19 where there were concentrations of Bigfoot and upright canines and they occasionally had a clash, territorial wise. And I had an individual who lived there who told me that he had other people that come on to his property and verified it. So is that what you're talking about? I don't know. That's the nearest that I've ever had as far as any confrontation. I do believe, and when I'm talking about, I'm talking about here in Pennsylvania because we have a lot of mountain ranges here, you know, the Appalachians, the Alleganers and such. It seems to me that

Starting point is 00:57:00 the, um, when these cryptids, if they do travel or do move at distances the big foot kind of seem to and other cryptids kind of seem to move in valleys along rivers and creeks and stuff the upper canine up up right canine seem to go to higher ground and move across they kind of hang one to the ridges. That just, that's just my, my thoughts. I mean, it just, what people have seen and reported. I think they do avoid each other.

Starting point is 00:57:36 I really do. They got like turfs and shit. They may. I mean, I think they know how to avoid each other. I think they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are are they are are are are are are they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are aware they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are their their their their their toa. their their toa. their their their their their their their their their their their their to avoid each other. I think they are aware of each other where they were at. But I don't, I don't think they like to intermingle. So what is your Moby Dick of Cryptons that you haven't found yet, but you are sure it's out there and you want to see it bad. Like, I don't know. Nothing? No, not really. I, you know, I hear so many things. I just wrote a book about these pale coral or humanoids that people are seeing now more and more in the past decade.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Like people call them rakes, flesh gates, this and that, you know. A flesh gates? Yeah. I'm not familiar with this. They're more like a, well, the title of the book is the meme humanoid. And I believe that these beings may actually be some type of thought-form projection of a meme. Now when I say a meme, a meme is an internet-driven, yeah, slender man, right? That's what you're talking about? Yeah, like slender man. Slenderman is a perfect example.

Starting point is 00:58:56 But people have been seeing in all areas of the North America, especially, these thin, emaciated, hairless and very pale-colored humanoid and they just seem to spring up from nowhere. Now are they alter alters as well? Are the indigenous or they thought form projections, mind manifest the beings? I don't know. Man, do you think that happens like we manifest these animals? Oh, I think I think fall form manifestation is a reality. I really do. I think that not only cryptus, but for the most part, some ethereal type of hauntings and such like poltergeist. Poltergeists are not actual spirits.

Starting point is 00:59:44 Poltergeists are fault actual spirits. Poultry geist or both were manifestations. What? Yeah. Really? Yeah. So look, this is some like ghostbuster stuff? Like, don't think anything bad. Here's the state puff marshmallow man.

Starting point is 01:00:01 Now, poltergeist, you know, when you get into a Poltergeist situation or into investigation, which I've been a part of a few of them, when you go into the location, many of the times, you're dealing with some type of energy that has been manifested by someone who's living, unconsciously. Now, there may be a dysfunction, problems within the family, illness, death, other things, but you get a combination of a lot of different factors that may call a, one of the living beings,

Starting point is 01:00:42 one of the people who are living there to do an unconscious mind manifestation. And when you do realize, when you do investigate and realize that this is the case, it's not a matter of me or someone else just going in there and getting rid of it, can't be done. This has to be done by the person who's actually doing the man manifestation, the thought form. And you've got to work with them and try to cure what the problem is that when you have a disability or something that's causing this type of thing. Yeah. That is crazy. That is like literally like know, you see this in the Hollywood movies all the time

Starting point is 01:01:29 manifesting like almost like a make-believe friend, but it becomes like this dark entity that you are you are creating and it's just wreaking havoc in your world. So how often are... I'm sorry, can I just say real quick? How often are world. So how often are, I'm sorry, can I just say real quick? How often are exorcisms actually just working in the mind of the person that's manifesting? Many times, many times. Yeah. Yeah, I can't do exercises.

Starting point is 01:02:02 I won't do exorcisms. You know, if I get to, if I get a case where, where I believe that an exorcism is is warranted in, look, I'm not a religious person. I don't buy into the whole mumbo jumble as far as the Catholic rights and stuff, but you know, I don't go that low. I let them handle that thing. But I think from priests who I have have to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to have the to have to do do do do do do do do the the the to do do do do do do do their their their theircass do do theircestuxxxxxamamamamam. theircisma. their theircisma. thociisma. thiaxism. thiaxxxxies. thiax. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their case their case their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I can can can can. the. the. I. I can. I can't. I can't. that. I can't. that. toe. toe. toe. t. together. together. together. together. today. th. th. them handle that thing. But I think from priest who I've talked to who had done exorcism, even even Lutheran pastors who have done them to a certain degree. It has a lot to do with literally going in there in getting them to realize that there's something else causing what this is. And a lot of times it has to do with the mind.

Starting point is 01:02:46 The mind itself does a lot of weird things. And, you know, it's not just the so-called devil or the so-called demon that's causing this. A lot of times it's something that's, it's manifested unconsciously about the victim. Now, do you have, I mean, are the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the victim. Now do you have, I mean, are you a religious man? Has this cause you do, you don't believe in any God or anything like that? Well, you know, I was born and raised in a very conservative Lutheran environment. And I, as time went on, I kind of saw that, you know, it just did not answer my questions. And, uh, and I, uh, and, uh, I, as time went on. And, uh, I, the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. the the the the I kind of saw that, you know, it just did not answer my questions. And I am very spiritual. I believe in angels, not in the religious sense, but I believe in,

Starting point is 01:03:37 I believe in certain beings, non-human beings that are there to help us. But again, it's not in a religious texture. I mean, it's, um, I believe that, I believe that, I believe that, I believe that, I believe that, that, I, that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, that, that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I th, I that, I th, I th, I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi there to help us. But again, it's not in a religious texture. I mean, it's I believe that I believe in guardian angels. I believe we all have guardian angels. I believe we have something there actually there to help us to guide us. But it's not a matter that God sent these gaid angels down to help us do this and that. I think these are beings that have always been around. They may even be extraterrestrial. They may be some type of being it comes from another realm. Yes, that's what I believe in. So I consider myself a spiritual person. Me too, dude. So, I mean, let's get into that. I often believe that this is like we live in a haunted house. And there are entities here to kind of jack our loose and stuff. th th th th th th th. th. th th. th th. th. th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thir thir thir thir thirti thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. They thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is is th is th is th th th is th thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is to to to thi to to thi. to thi. theeeeeeea. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi we live in a haunted house and there are entities here to kind of jack our loose and stuff like that. Like we're getting in a cryptids are lizard people cryptids. Well it's something that's unexplained by science so that's crypted. Yeah dude you heard it here

Starting point is 01:04:39 lizard people are cryptids dog. Okay they're out there they're just doing shady stuff. What's your thoughts on the lizard people? Well, it depends what you're talking about. You're talking about the ones that are, that are supposed to be some type of hybrid that are living on earth like the loser man from South Carolina or that. Well, I'm talking about reptoids or reptilian type non-terrestrial beings. Yeah, well, you know, those very will be real as well.

Starting point is 01:05:14 Have you ever ran into anybody that's seen them? Yeah. What that what stories they tell you? Oh, well, that they are, this was part of an abduction scenario that has lasted now for almost 15 years with an individual. I know by the name of David Eckhart, who lives down outside of Pensacola. He and his family have been involved with several many, tens, many abductions. Hold on what do you mean by they've been involved in abductions? They have literally been abducted by a reptilian and other forms of extraterrestrials, grays, if you want to call him that, that literally taking them from their home through a portal into another realm. I contacted David after several years of this going on with him, him and his family.

Starting point is 01:06:01 So I, he put up a video of a small humanoid-like being that was standing in the doorway of his family. So I he put up a video of a small humanoid like being that was standing in the doorway of his bedroom, bathroom in his bedroom. And it was just a few clips that he stitched together. But it was something he captured on a video camera. So, um, I called him and then he and I started talking. You know, at first, when I started talking to him, I thought he was actually having some type of haunting as such going on there. And it almost took six months or more for me to realize that something else is really going on. When he started feeling more comfortable for me, then he started feeling more comfortable with me, then he started showing me what he was gathering as far as visible visual evidence, photographs, audio evidence and such.

Starting point is 01:06:55 And literally what was going on, he had, first of all, he had had, he had had crippling rheumatory arthritis. Very young guy, too, at that time. And he's not the first person to go through that. I've talked a lot of experiences. You've had the same thing happened to them. You get abducted and you come back better? Yeah. Now, for him, you got a better credit score? I don't think it was being taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken taken hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. Hea. hea. tooomoomoomatathea. tooing. tooing. tooomathing. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. He was too. He was too. He was too. He was tooeeea. He was tooea. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was tooea. He was, he was, he was tooea I don't know they worked like, yeah. But no, he was being, he was being taken to these other locations.

Starting point is 01:07:32 And to this day, I don't think he really understands why he was chosen to do this. You know, he was shown like underground areas like ca caverns and such, where these, these riptoins were literally living in family groups, where they had other extraterrestrial or other beings, including humans, doing slave labor for them. Yeah, and he's taken, he'd been taken to underwater locations, but he believes all the locations that he was taken to, except for one that he thought was on the dark side of the moon, some type of locality there. Most of these locations were on planet Earth and what he gathered.

Starting point is 01:08:25 Now, why he was chosen to see this? I don't know. I don't know. Over the years I have, um, I have written here and there about what is going on. And, um, and quite frankly, there's a lot of stuff that I have not disclosed, that I really don't believe maybe people can handle this point. But let's, let's put it this way this way this way this way this way this way this way this way this way this way this way. This way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, this way, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this this this this this this of stuff that I have not disclosed. That I really don't believe maybe people can handle this point. But let's put it this way, there are people who are taken and just not returned that are just disposed of. And he swears that he's seen this. And but I write about it in the book. I mean, I have a whole chapter on there just about him and what he's going through.

Starting point is 01:09:07 But, yeah, I still talk to David a lot and he still has encounters. They literally come into his home. And does he have any say or, like, does he have like a, very little. Seems like, every kind of calendar they got to sign up for? Every time he pushes back, they do something to change to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he to change to change to change to change to change to change to change to change to change to change his to change his to change to change his for? Every time he pushes back they do something to change his mind. They have they have a habit of stealing stuff and bringing stuff back to for whatever reason. Yeah, it's just it's a it's a crazy situation. So you you get people contacting you all the time. What is the craziest story you've ever heard? As far as aliens?

Starting point is 01:09:49 Anything. And then I want to get an alien slot. Okay, well, this is an alien story, but it has to do with an abduction. About 10 years ago, I contact, I was contacted by a woman whose name was Mandy. Well, that's the name I gave her and her mother. Now they lived together in a home right on the eastern Washington Idaho border. They were like no more than a mile away from the border. So when they went out to their yard, they could look to the east and see the Cordeline Mountains in Idaho.

Starting point is 01:10:27 Anyway, she had had a series of things going on. And she wasn't really getting much help, wasn't getting much answer. So she contacted an investigator in Spokane, Washington, who told her to contact me. So that's how I got the phone call. Well, anyway, this is her story. She, they had been, they had been going out during the summer and into the yard at night, and they were noticing these red and white lights

Starting point is 01:10:57 hovering above the mountains. And they didn't know what they were. They didn't know if their UFOs or what they were. But they, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you they, you they, you they, you they, you they, you they, you they they they they they th, you they they th, you th, you their, their, th, th, th, th. th. they they they they were, they they they were, they they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they they they they they they they they they they their, they th, thi thi thi thi, to told told told told told told told told told told told told told told the the told the. the. the. were. They didn't know if their UFOs or what they were. But they, you know, they saw them. So a couple weeks later, they had a late dinner one night. And they were in the kitchen cleaning dishes when they started hearing these popping sounds. I gotta get the drink. Excuse me. Take your time.

Starting point is 01:11:23 They didn't know what it was. So. Excuse me. It drinks, Rod. Take your time. It started hearing these popping sounds. They didn't know what it was. So she looked out of the kitchen window and saw these little red and white orbs out there, all over the place, floating everywhere. So she walked out onto the back porch and she saw every time one of these red lights and weight lights collided, they made a popping sound. I mean, she was freaking out. She didn't know what the hell this was.

Starting point is 01:11:51 So she ran back in the house, ran towards the living room, looked out the bay window and saw that they were out in the front yard and across the road into the field as well. So they didn't understand the the they the they didn't the they didn't they didn't their they didn't their their they didn't their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their't understand it. And then they were going to call the police, but the phone was dead. So this went on for, I think she told me it went on for like half an hour so then it stopped and then the phone came back up but there's no evidence of what happened. So she said why her mother said, well, she's not going to cops about that. So anyway. That was the first thing that happened. So, so, not long th to that th th th th th that th th that th th th the th the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the phone the phone the phone the phone the phone the phone the phone the phone the phone to to to to to to I should not call on the cops about that. So anyway, that was the first thing that happened. So not long after that, they were, they were going to, well, they were at home. There's a late night. And her mother had going upstairs to go to sleep. And Mandy stayed up to watch some TV I think it was. And then she went up. And as she was walking in the hallway to her bedroom,

Starting point is 01:12:55 as she stepped in the bedroom, she started hearing these footsteps on the roof in the attic. And of course, she didn't know what it was. And then the lights went out. And all the electricity, the telephone, everything went out. Just woke her mother up. She came running into Mandy's room. So they're sitting in Mandy's bed for like an hour. And they looked out the window and they saw his red and white orbs again out in the yard and they heard the popping sounds and they're hearing footsteps scampered about in the attic and you know on the roof so they didn't know what was going on they were freaked out to this

Starting point is 01:13:36 happened I think a couple times at that point they called me and you know they've started asking me questions and telling me what was going on. And I'll be honest, I didn't have a real good feeling about it. I didn't want to scare them. I didn't tell them that this might escalate. The only thing I told them was, look, keep a journal, give me a call back tomorrow. Let me know what's if anything happened tonight. And we'll go from there. I talked to them for about three hours. I'm trying to calm them down.

Starting point is 01:14:12 But you know, what can you do? So anyway, so I was expecting to talk to them the next day. Well, I didn't get a phone call. And in fact, I didn't get a phone call call call fact I didn't get a phone call until five days later and it was a Sunday night and her mother called me and I answered the phone and I recognized the number and she said yeah I'm sorry we didn't she was really polite to. I'm sorry we didn't call you. We had someto her. I'm sorry we didn't call you. We had some things going on and Mandy's missing.

Starting point is 01:14:51 Oh my God. And she said, yeah, and then she told me what happened. That same night that I had to get done talking to them. Mandy had gone up into her bedroom. I don't know how late it was. He was up her room and she was up there a while. And when her mother came up to go to bed, she walked past her room and she saw the light

Starting point is 01:15:17 peeking out from underneath the door, so she knew she was up. But as she walked there, walked past, the light went off. So she thought she went to bed. So she knocked on the door to check. And her. And she, she, she, she, she, she, and she, and she, she, and she, she, and she, she, and she was, she was, and she was, she was the door, and she was to the door, she was to the door. And she was the door, she was up. And she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up, she was up. And she was up, walked past, the light went off. So she thought she went to bed. So she knocked on the door to check on her, and she opened the door and flicked the lights on, and there was nobody there. So she thought, well, maybe she's in a bathroom test in the bedroom. So she called for her and was no answer. And she went in, looked around, she's nowhere to be found. Her pocketbook and everything was there. She ran

Starting point is 01:15:50 around the house yelling for her and such and no answer. She went outside, her car was sitting there. Nothing. So she contacted police. And of course, police told her, well, you know, she's an adult, you know, she may have took off of the boyfriend or something, you know, how they give, you know, give me that crap. So they didn't really look into it and they took a report, but of course nothing ever came of it. So I told her was I said, well, look, if she shows up, let me know. Keep me a praise of what's going on. Well, I never heard back from her again. I did hear from her later. And after I had called the state police, maybe four or five years after, and I had been keeping up with it. And there was never anything. She had never shown up.

Starting point is 01:16:46 She was actually a school teacher. And, you know, she never showed up at work, never showed up for anything. And that's been 10 years ago. I checked not long ago, and she still has nothing, has never turned up. There's nothing on credit cards or bank accounts or ever showed up. Her mother has passed away since then. Oh my God. I do know that and there is somebody else living at the house. So yeah, I, you know, and I'll be honest with it. That case almost did it for me. Because I felt bad about it, you know, like, but what was I going to do? You know. And you do get the, you do get these situations where you are you kind you kind you. kind to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel the the the to feel th th th th the th th th th the the th th th th th th th thi thi the the the thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th. think. I think. think. think. th. th. think. think. th. think. think. think. th. think. think. think. th. th. think. th. think. you. think. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. think. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. think. think. think. think. think. think. think. ki. think. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. think. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. you. you. you. you. you. you a crazy story. That's super tragic. That sounds like a lot of this missing 4-1 stuff. Well, it does happen. It does happen. Yeah, it's dangerous.

Starting point is 01:17:49 People go missing all the time and they just don't know what happened to him. And have you ever heard about someone who went missing and then somehow showed up years later? Sure. And what are their stories? Well, I guess depends on the situation. I mean, a tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's tho. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's just just just just just just just just the. It's just just the. It's just just thea. It's just just just thea. It's just just thooooooooooooooooooo I guess depends on the situation. I mean, a lot of times these people don't even remember anything happens, just like it was the next day or the next hour, you know, they go through a regressive therapy. Maybe they can recall something, but for the most part, it does does not work anyway.

Starting point is 01:18:17 Are you nervous about ever going disappearing? I figure at my age they're going to take me out of the BS and I worry about. Like I just go for the ride enjoy the probing. Yeah, yeah. You know, so do you, you're a ghost man too, you're into ghost hunting. What do you think ghosts are? I think they're a manifestation of spirit energy. Ghosts are nothing more than I believe than the life force of a dead individual that remains on this earth plane. And that hauntings for the most part are these spirit energies trying to communicate with the living. It doesn't turn out good all the time. Sometimes it turns into a lot of noise, a lot of knocks, a lot of different things that, that that th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiosts, thiosts, thiosts, thiosts, thiosts, and thiosts, and thiosts, and thiosts, and thiosts, and thiasts, thiasts, thiasts, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thia thia thia thia thia thia tha thia thia thiaaaaaa thaaaa tha tha thia thia thia to communicate with the living. It doesn't turn out good all the time. Sometimes it turns into a lot of noise, a lot of knocks, a lot of different things that scare people. So then

Starting point is 01:19:10 they call him investigators. I always think that somehow all these ghosts usually come from what seems like some violent ending and that the transfer of energy, your soul back into the universe gets knocked out and you're stuck in this kind of nether world, neither here nor there, and it's hard for them to get back. Well, that can be, you know, I think what happens most of the time is that, let's say somebody dies suddenly, or they feel like they have an infusiness business before they die and that their energy stays dormant stays stationary into an earth plane in our plane of resistance.

Starting point is 01:19:56 And they're trying to get people to acknowledge that they're there. So people may get touched. They may see things move. They may see electrical disturbances and such. And so that's the haunting. That causes the haunt. So yeah, I think that turns up a lot. And we have been called on in cases. I have done cases where we have tried to move on these energies into another level.

Starting point is 01:20:28 We call it spirit rescue. Basically, we're rescuing the spirit from the earth plane into another level, another existence to where they can reside or whatever happens to them there. But it's got to be a much easier existence than what it is with the living. You know, I've heard comedians do this joke before, but how come ghosts always look like they're from the 1800s? Well, that's a little bit of theater you're talking about.

Starting point is 01:20:59 Okay. It just doesn't end up that way. You ever see millennial ghosts? Not necessarily. Have you ever seen millennial ghosts? Not necessarily. Have you ever seen full form go? Full form manifestations are very rare, but I have had, I saw my aunt after she passed away. And that was a full form manifestation, full figured manifestation. She came back. She actually came back and saw myself, my mother and my grandmother all at the same time that we were with all like 40 miles apart from each other. Wow. Do you think you just have like an intuition for this instance? Well, I think I'm a beacon. I think I drill spirit energy for whatever reason. I'm an intuitive, I can sense spirit energy around me.

Starting point is 01:21:48 You know, I have helped a lot of people over the years when they have issues involving spirits. Yeah, you know, I'm what I call a beacon. And a lot of times when you're working with people, they're also beacons. They draw a lot of this stuff to them. You know, I work with a lot of kids. You know, if I get into a situation with a family

Starting point is 01:22:15 where they're having issues, and kids are seeing a lot of different things, and as they grow older, they continue to see him and start to realize their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and I, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th....... I, th. I, the, I, I, the, I, the, I'm, I'm, the, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thrownean, thanks, thanks and as they grow older, they continue to see him and start to realize that these energies are drawn to them. I have worked with several children over the years to try to explain to them what's going on with them. A lot of times, they'll grow out of it. And they're just, you know, as life goes on, things happen, you just forget about that. But, you know, many of these, many these kids have turned into very, very talented psychic

Starting point is 01:22:50 mediums and intuatives. And yeah, I think that's a gratifying thing. To me, I ask you, I want to ask you what this sounds like. It's, I've related the story a few times here on the show. My father and another guy in our family had the same experience in the same place at different times and didn't talk about it until years later and the other guy's still really afraid of it. They saw in while driving over this bridge,

Starting point is 01:23:16 not far from where they live. In the backseat, you know, the thing you hear about, white hair, old lady, terrifying th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and thi, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I I's, and I's, and I I's, and I I I I's, and I's, and I I's, and I I I's, and I I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, and I's, the the thi.. thi. thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, th.eaughea, th. th. thea. thea. thr-s, thr-s, thrifying thing. They saw it separately, which makes me think disinclined to think that it's some mental, you know, manifestation. What would you, what would you think that would be? Well, I mean, they went into the same area where this thing may have resided. And it, it, there's nothing unusual for people to experience the same, the same type of manifestation at the same area, different times. But I guess what I mean is, is that, is that a living, is that again, just like a remnant of something that was alive or is it more likely to be something trapped in that place?

Starting point is 01:24:00 It's likely an earthbound spirit. Okay. So, but something that is very real. It's not a real. It's not a residual. It's an actual real energy. Okay. Okay. Interesting. So so lawn, you know, we're coming here to the end. We're going to promote your books a little more because I know you got multiple books books going on. Lon. Being a ghost hunter is it easy to get ladies? Like the ladies. Like you say, like what's you you you you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. It's. It's. It's that's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's is. It's. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not the. It's not the. It's not the. It like is it, like what's your lady think about, you know, because I'm a comic and sometimes we're like, why do you got a real job? Do you ever get that from the like, when do you have a phone to go work,

Starting point is 01:24:35 man, run a subway or something? I had real jobs all my life until I was disabled. So I'm on disability now. But I've always done I've always done this along with my other jobs. And it's kind of become more prominent years has gone by that I'm kind of here at home doing what, doing my thing. No, it's not a means to find companionship. I can tell you that right now. Yeah, it's got to be maybe we should start on like a dating website for like cryptid ghost hunters. You know, if you're in the big foot, swipe right. If you're in the, if you're in the mothman, slight move. Um, so, so if we want to join your like

Starting point is 01:25:21 crypted fight club that you started with all these little fight clubs all over the place where we can go around and we can hunt stuff together. How will we join that? Well, you know, if anybody is interested in becoming part of our team, there's a process, and it's all team based as far as acceptance and such. I look for people in areas where I have need or I don't have someone that can actually go in looking at it. If somebody is very talent and talent enough that I can use their services I will put them on. There's no doubt about that. You know like any other group there's nutrition rate you lose people this people for death or whatever reason you know, you're always replenishing your team. But they can just contact me at the lawnstripler phantoms and monsters.com or they can go

Starting point is 01:26:15 at the phantoms and monsters.com and click some of the links to where they can contact me. Start their own group in different, do it based on city? Is it based on cryptic? Like in Portland have like ghost hunters and Mothman hunters or is it just one group? It's just one group. But I've got a lot of people that specialize in different phenomena. I have a woman up in Oregon now who does Bigfoot and UFO. So, but you know, it just depends.

Starting point is 01:26:45 I mean, I have a lot of people who do one thing and then they get more interested as the group, as working with the group, seeing what we're doing and they get involved with it. So, you know, it's like a progression thing. Lon, if you could sit down and have a chat to chat with one cryptic, like a real conversation, who would it be? Oh, it'd be a humanoid. Yeah, it'd be a mothman type creature.

Starting point is 01:27:12 Mothman, I'll everybody. Big foot, locknest, they're all sitting there. You're like, mothman, you're up first to. Yeah. Yeah, that whole phenomena is. That's something I've always been interested in and I've been fortunate enough to be able to have an encounter and to actually be involved in one of these unbelievable cases like we're into now. Well, Ron, excuse me, Lon, I know you have a couple books. What are your books that, what are the different books you have as we wrap it up here? Well, I had written nine books, but damn.they only have four in print right now. The one

Starting point is 01:27:47 book is the Mothman Dynasty, Chicago's Winged Humanoids. That was the first book about the Chicago phenomena. Then I wrote a book called Alien Disclosure, Experiencers Exposed reality and that has all the cases I've worked with Experiencers, abductees, what we had talked about is all in there. The second book was winged cryptids and beginning a book talks about the next series of investigations involved in Chicago phenomena. Then I have other cases involving winged humanoids and wing cryptids. And then my last book, my most recent book, is the mean humanoids. Modern myth are real monsters. And all that can be found in Amazon. Just put lawn strickler and search my name and they'll come up.

Starting point is 01:28:43 And what is your website? It's Phantom's the Monsters.com. And the team website is Crypted Hunters. that the team website is Crypted Hunters. that theyterms, thear, thear. And my radio show can be found on, it's every Friday night live at 9 o'clock. We found at Famze the Monsters. on YouTube. And that is what Central Time? I don't know where you're looking. Eastern Time. Eastern 9 o'clock every Friday, Eastern Time at 9 o'clock and what's the name of your YouTube channel again?

Starting point is 01:29:13 It's phantoms and monsters radio. Phantom and monsters radio. Wow, man, I really enjoy these cryptid talks. Johnny, you got any more questions? No, no, that was great. Fantastic. Yeah, it was great. Thank you so much, Lom for coming on. It was an honor and a privilege. If you ever make it out to Cali, you're going to do some ghost hunting. I would love to join you. Okay. You know, bring Are you? I, I, I, you know, I can get it. I can. Yeah, that's all I need is here. I can get it. Respect, lawn. Your G. Thank you for coming on. It was an honor and privilege to talk to you. Guys, I love you very much. Thank you for tunnit. I hope to see you guys in Texas in two weeks. Eddie Bravo, myself, XG will be in El Paso and Corpus Christi. And if you could help out, if you could help out off the grid,

Starting point is 01:30:11 we'd really love you. Okay, so thank you, you guys so much for tune in. Thank you, Lonnie again, and we'll talk to you soon. Take care everybody. We go deep home, boy. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit.

Starting point is 01:30:34 Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind. Tim foil hack. Tim foil hack.

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