Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #562: Emergency Podcast with Sam and Owen Discussing Rokfin

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tinfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:29 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just move my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown. All right, guys, welcome to an emergency podcasted. All right, guys, welcome to an emergency podcast between two old men from upstate New York. We, you know, a lot of craziness has happened over the last week. And I it would be a lot of fun to have a conversation about everything that went down with Owen Benjamin and Rockton. Now, I do not represent Rockfin in this discussion, meaning that they even sent me to do this. I'm just having this conversation with Owen because I feel like these are the conversations ne need to happen. Okay, I, I think that real. I that, that, that, that, that, th th that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi thi thi thi thi tho, to to to to to to to to to to to thoooooooooooooooo, tho, tho, th I feel like these are the conversations that need to happen.
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Starting point is 00:04:05 Triple 7, Toronto Jew bear, everybody. I was telling people, don't kill the Jew, kill the inner Jew that makes you want their product. I got that. It's a joke. I mean, I have no hate towards due. All right, so then anyway. So now I have like hundreds of people sent me this video. I'm going to make this hilarious montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage montage the joke the joke the joke the joke tho-I tho-I thjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjju. th, th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I tri. I tri. I tri. I tri. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. te. tel tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tel. I'm gonna make this hilarious montage for Monday about like, it's every joke I've ever done. It's them being like, listen, I'm a lesbian. I love when he makes fun of my Subaru. Listen, I'm Puerto Rican. I love Babbabah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's like, it's a healing thing. And the bottom line is, I don't care if Rockfin has rules, I just want to know the rules, and that's it. Like I would tour better in Saudi Arabia than America because they go, don't make fun of the profit, don't mock the family, don't say fuck we good. And I'm like, no problem. I go to communist China, they'd be like, no, you do not say communist party. And I'd be like, no problem. You in America with these quote unquote, free speech, thap, thops, thops, thops, free speech platforms are like, you know, your free speech has to have a line and it's my, it's my feeling, you know, listen, if we let you go, then we have to have child porn. I'm like, Martin, do you even know the fuck you're talking to? Like, okay, I understand that. I just want to say as you go, you're going to allow me to talk after it, right? I'm going to let you out and then I'm gonna jump in because I want you get your Give your point give your point give me the rockfin point. Give me your you know, I want you to do your go
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Starting point is 00:06:10 that my friends can make a living on Rockfin. I swear to get, but I am gonna point out that that's, that you have to establish lines. And so today I got a bunch of questions for you about what the lines are with censorship. Because you were saying that I, you know, and then Rock Finn was writing to my people saying, well, you know, there has to be a line. Do you think we should allow Nazis and pedophiles? I'm like, okay, so I can't make fun of Shack's appearance or the energy,
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Starting point is 00:08:12 I've never talked to anybody from Rockfin ever. Oh, my God, I'm not talking about rockton. What I'm talking about is someone I had a conversation with to to to to to. And just write these down because I promise you I'll give you everybody's names. I just don't want them in the video because this isn't their discussion. Okay. Well, I care for them but this is no, but I'm not doing what anymore. I didn't do anything right. Right, hold on. No, no, no. Sam, I'm not going to let you get away with these little sneaky things. What little sneaky things Owen? That I'm not doing those things anymore? Yes. What did I do that was bad Sam? Why don't you tell me? Okay, I haven't had a
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Starting point is 00:09:38 I had this conversation where you said along the same lines on, I was, I was, I was call from Rock Finn, I go, yeah, he's not doing that stuff anymore. That's kind of not what he's doing. Right? Should I let him I go, yeah, let him on. He's not, he's doing his own things. He's doing it different now. I'm listening. What do you think Jews? Why do you think we can make fun of Mormons but not Jews? I think you should be able to make fun of everybody. Why are we acting like it's so shameful? Because, man, I'm gonna get into it. Okay, I'm gonna get into this. I want to say this. And then you can pick my whole, everything. You could totally pick apart my, what I'm saying to you.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Okay? So I let, they let you on, okay. So the big whole thing was like I th th. I free speech platform and all the stuff. This thing started out as a Greco Roman wrestling website. No, listen listen. It's a Greco the number one fucking channels on there are live streaming pro sports. I didn't even know that. Okay, that's hilarious. It wasn't until later on when they saw everybody getting kicked off of all these platforms. Oh, that they were like let people come on. And they let people come on. That's right because everyone was getting kicked off of of Patreon and everybody was getting kicked off of Vimo, Vimeo, where you have to do the, you have to,
Starting point is 00:11:08 because with Patreon, you have to serve two masters, okay? You have to serve wherever you're hosting the site and Patriot. And they both got, and they would kick me off my Timfall hat, I got kicked off both of those. Three times I think I paid for premium service on Vimeo got kicked off. Then I have another show with another comic. And we were doing, we have a show that involves conspiracies and stuff like that. We got kicked off multiple times up of Bimia. We were asked to bring him over the rock thin.
Starting point is 00:11:43 We've had no problems on there so fun. So the, the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system the system th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T bring them over the rock thin. We've had no problems on there so far. So the system was built to show live stream sports and now they saw all these people. There's not just truthers on there. There's comedians, there's spiritual people, yoga, all these different things. The truthers are just one of a lot of things. It's not just one thing, it's a lot of things. So it's not a truth or website. It's a premium content website. And truthers have to be, happen to be doing very well there because they allow you to go some places where other place won't. Now, if we take a look, Owen, at things that have been talked about on this website, flat earth, you're a flat earther, I'm open minded to it all, okay, they allow people to talk about flat earth. YouTube doesn't allow that to do you. COVID, vaccines, deep state pizza gate. All these things are allowed to talk about on this fucking channel on this platform that are not allowed anywhere else. Okay. Now let's get into the word nigger and talking about Jews. Okay. Dog. I have a bit I have a video on my thing. Where the end word is said over and over and over and over and over again. I've never heard anything from them about that. I put my special on there. I have thi. I have my special on their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have th. I have th. I have a th. I have the th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a th. I have a the th. I over and over and over and over and over again. I've never heard anything from them about that. I put my special on there.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I've been about the most racist women in the world are white chicks who only fuck black guys. And they're so hot, I'll paint my dick black face, okay? I've never heard a word from them. Now, when it comes to, and you may or may not have been doing this, okay, but I'll get into that. When it comes to Jew world order stuff, okay? I didn't do, you, I don't think the Jews run anything. Okay, so let's, I just want to have this conversation with you. Again, I'm going to, after I say this, you can say whatever you want, okay? They rub your hands whatever you want after this. Okay. Yeah, well, just this.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I have, I have, okay, on my show, talked about Zionism, the mega group that involves all the like Just like Just like, Just like, told me, to talk about Israel, the foreign governor Israel, people like Whitney Webb, talk about it all the foreign governor Israel. People like Whitney Webb talk about it all the time. She was just kicked off of Patreon again. Again, she's on there. Abber, Abby, Abby Martin, Ryan Dawson's there. Eric DuBay's on there. Hibler's on there. They all have discussions about Israel, Zionism all that stuff. None of them get kicked off, Owen. None of them do. I don't think they give a shit about my Jew joke. I think it's about crypto.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Okay, but but dude, but hold on, but I want to talk about that. You've been talking about how this is about censorship and free speech and as first I can tell Owen, they're not a fed. You're not a fed. I let, dude, I prefer the FBI over some of this other shit. Right, but you're not a fed. I don't think you're a fed. Okay, I don't think you're a fed. Oh, but you just said. But you're not sending cops right here is freedom of expression. Freedom of speech is that you're going to get locked up for what you said.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And as far as I know, Rockman has taken no legal actions against you. There is no law against that. It's all private. Right. So your freedom of speech is in violated. their freedom of speech is in violated. We're talking about it. We're talking about. the freedom of expression. That's what we're thi that. th. th. th. th. th. tho. th. th. tho. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to thi. that. that. to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to is to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. thee don't at all. You're not really letting me respond. Go, okay, go. No, I don't, I don't even believe in free speech with private enterprises. I run a social media platform and I censor more than anybody. I don't even know what, let truth or stuff on there.
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Starting point is 00:16:46 Why are you on the platform when it's based on crypto? Why even go there if you don't like it? Yeah, I don't think you understand. I don't start from the start. I've had multiple discussions with multiple new channels there. It is always starts at Ray tokens. It is always that. Anybody comes on, understands that the pay and everything is in Ray tokens. There's no way that anybody moves forward on that website
Starting point is 00:17:13 that does not know that it is paid in crypto. I realize that. And that can't bring it to US dollars. The problem is I make fun of crypto. I talk about how you put a prisoner in a cell block. That's why they got rid of Spain, block chain, cryptoc crypt. You put dead people in a crypt, you put chains on their fucking feet and you put them in a cell block. You will only be able to buy and sell based on a public ledger. That's what they want to bring in now. And so that's the taboo topic. So if those people want to play a little fucking song and dance and talk
Starting point is 00:17:45 about how they're truthers and they allow you to talk about vaccines, the vaccine shit is over. It's over. It's now John. No one's here. Let you talk about it Owen. When a lot of places weren't doing that forever. For why? That's scam throwing fucking She but you know it a mom's asshole on fucking only fans for sure like that's freedom But I can't fucking make fun of shack looking like a fucking gorilla That's on it. You just said this isn't about jokes. You said it's about crypto right now. Oh, it is about crypto, and that's why I'm doing this. I'm not doing this because I want to be? th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that's that's. that's. that's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like. that's. that's. that's. that's like. that's like. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,. I'm not doing this because I want to be on Rockland. Martin could have just apologized. He could have said, because we're texting back and forth all day. And he's like, he kept holding a moral line on me and that's a problem for me. And you know, that's a problem. It's one thing if you go, hey man I'm really into Greco Roman wrestling I saw it was happening I fucking like crypto you're kind of fucking
Starting point is 00:18:48 things up do you mind if you just leave I'd be like no problem when he says hey man I got a fucking I got a fucking problem with your morality I'm like you know what I'm gonna fight this because you're gonna be manipulating people into thinking that blockchain is freedom like trans sexual is freedom like the vaccine will make it go back to normal and I do it I'm a more I fight with morality it's not about money for me right I have no debt no mortgage no addiction I mean I battle some addictions but it's like I battle a lot of addictions and I I mean I mean we do we too we're from upstate New York dude. I mean it's like, right. Yeah, I mean we both have a little voice in us going like change your personality go down. I know, trust me, I relate. But it's like my battle isn't I don't want rock to fail because of people like you and people like Jaron and people like Wice and people that I like, that. It's just the people don't like this. So when this was revealed. I thi. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the ththat it's just the people don't like this.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So when this was revealed, when he did this public thing of deleting my channel, he could have had me delete it. He could have been like, hey man, we got this thing going on. Do you mind just deleting your channel? It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing to go to rock fan. Okay. I didn't debunk the Holocaust like they asked me not to do.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I never said, I never said to hurt Jews. I never said Jews are fucking trying to hurt us. I'm just doing comedy. And I don't need to be on there and I don't even need to make any drama. But like it's this moral, it's this inverted morality where I understand. Owen, okay, I understand that. But you did, I don't know how long the video was shitting on Martin, okay? And listen, I understand, yeah, okay, let me tell you something man. I'm just gonna say this to you, man, when we first had our problem, I'm gonna say something, when we first had our problem way back in the day and you fucking text to my burner phone,
Starting point is 00:20:40 okay, and you said something that resonated with me. And I didn't really understand it because I hadn't had kids right there. Yeah, okay? I hadn't had kids yet. So I, it resonated with me but didn't hit, okay? And you said, fuck you, you're fucking with me trying to feed my children. Okay. And even though I wasn't fucking with you trying to feed your children, that resonated with me, that you're a family man. So I have two daughters, right? I have two daughters. Rock Finn, all this chaos happens, right?
Starting point is 00:21:13 All this chaos happened. I didn't cause the chaos, dude. But listen, everything got shut down, man. I lost any ability to make money, and I got an approach by rock fin to do a show on there. And that money basically kept me afloat for a long time, man. They really help me and they help a lot of people that have lost an ability to make money. You have a system where you make a lot of money on your website, which is fine.
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Starting point is 00:22:06 You've been kicked off of YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and I'm sure there's a bunch of- Airbnb, Podbeam, Venmo, Vimeo. Did any of those? Years ago. Did any of them call you? No, because they're not retarded. If they had called me, if they had they had called they had called, if they they they they they they were, if they were, if they were, if they were, if they were, they were, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they were, they were, they were, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. th. th. th. that, that, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. to that. to that, that, that, that, me and fucking said that to me, I would have sued them to a Olympian. Okay, he called you. Sam, Sam, CEO doesn't mean anything. I'm CEO of three companies. He is a, that does mean something. No, it doesn't. That guy in
Starting point is 00:22:34 charge. Oh, okay. He called me to ask if I was a fed and tell me he was deleting my channel because I'm a moral. Okay, would you say that's a that's a crazy like emotional outburst? Obviously. Okay. That's I mean, Owen. I have a trouble like this is what you said to me Owen. Oh, I have a Jew fucking ghosting me? What do you fuck? Yeah. What do you fucking ghosting me? Yeah. What do you fucking ghosting me because I didn't answer it. I mean, like, dude, we're both- That was a week, that was like five days after, no, be quiet for it. If you're gonna read my tax, you shut your mouth. Okay. That was five days after you publicly backed that guy.
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Starting point is 00:23:33 I never give up. I'm too in a conversation and I was just showing you a that CEO of a company emotionally explode on people I'm not emotionally exploding Sam I sued when you got kicked out patron you didn't sue them you sat back and you took it I sued them for two years we can get into that Owen we could totally get I sued them for two years I know to totally them for two. I know all about the law. I got basically got to listen, dude, I can teach you shit, man. I can help you earn a living outside of this fucking system. I do very well, but I appreciate that and I'm open.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I know you sell nicotine and all this other shit. Yeah, so what? Yeah, so. Go ahead and read my text. the private text. I like thua. to to thua. to to to thua. to to th. th. thuu. thu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the. the. the. the. the private text. I like it. Owen, let me just say something. I would, I have a strict rule in my life and I live by it, okay? Cool. I never give secrets, okay? There's nothing in there that is so fucking weird. I would never do it. The only thing I was going to read was one line and said, what are you gosting me?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Because I didn't answer your text rate off. For five days, four days, five days. I hit you up and I go, hey man, let's do a podcast. Two days later, you're like, are you fucking ghost me? Two or three days later. But the point is, the point is Owen. No, read these. I'll read them right now. Okay, go. I'm making an epic video that's gonna make Rockfin look fucking retarded.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Fact. Right. As a friend, I'm telling you, don't be on the shill side or your audience is going to think you're an idiot. We're gonna get to. Instead, I'm doing anti-Semitic talk. about Jews for Jews. I've no hate at all. Fact. And you'll see the video, you smug little fucker. Who are you talking to? You? Why? Because you're being smug, man. All right. All right. Why are you calling me a smug mother fucker? Because you're acting smug. I'm not acting
Starting point is 00:25:37 smug. I'll read this text. What have I done? What have having a conversation with you. Why am I being smug? I don't understand it. You just brought in the whole feed the family shit. Ron, what am I taking away Martin's ability to feed his family? That's not what I'm saying. That's what I'm doing? I'm taking away your ability to feed? He got that up Owen. Because I related to what you're saying. Okay, I'm relating to what you said the ability the ability the ability the ability to your to your ability to your ability to to to to to to to to the ability to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th the. I the. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to because I related it to what you're saying, okay? I'm relating to what you said there. That was actually a moment, not in a valid way, dude. 100% of the valid way, Owen. 100% in a valid way, that the way. What? 100% in a valid way. Because I'm that guy too. Okay. What guy? I've been censored on a lot of places, Owen. Yeah, and if you got kicked off a place that I was on, I would never show for the other side. Ever. I don't
Starting point is 00:26:30 give a fuck if I was friends with them either. Going out, chill. I get that all the time. You're a comedian, dude. Take it seriously. What's the line. What's the line? Sam. What's the line? What's the line. Sam. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. thine. thine. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that. that's. that. that. that's. that. that. that's. that's. that's that's that's thi. Tell me the line for jokes. Is it Jews? Is it gorillas? Is it bananas? Let's go through the lines. Is the Book of Mormon the line? When you just said he didn't care about your jokes? You just said that.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It's about crypto. Then that means it's one you bring up Jews in blacks if it's about crypto. That's what Martin said it was about, and that's what you said publicly it was about. You said that I want to cross the line because the anti-semitism you said the word anti-semitism. Okay. Owen, Owen, Owen, Owen, Owen. I want to ask you something. Do you believe at any point you said some anti-smagg shit ever. In my life? No. Never. You didn't have a fucking- closest I ever came. You didn't have a fucking, uh, that mascot that's the fucking grab wear mask. And doing that, that's not anti-sematical. No. Owen, oh, and come on, oh, so if I wear an Irish hat and a beard, oh, what are you talking about, dude? You're talking about Owen. Oh, you're being a fraud. Oh, so bad for me. Sam, so if I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Irish, I I the the Irish, I the the the the the Irish the the the Irish the the Irish the the the the the the the the the that the that's th. I thi that's that's thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi You're, you're, Owen, listen to me. Oh, it can feel so bad for me.
Starting point is 00:27:46 No, I don't. I wear an Irish beard and a green hat. Answer the fucking question. Answer the question. What? Answer the question. Why? If I wear a green topouble for that is laughable.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Because you have a lot by who? By every fucking website that's kicked you off, Owen. We're re-fucking writing history here. Okay? That's my point. Oh, answer the question as yourself. Oh, listen, here's the whole thing. You think that mask is anti-Semitic? Yes or no? Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So is a green top hat, a hatred of Irish people? It's, I don't. Hey, the actual, you're liar. You're liar. No, Owen, oh, not a liar. Lying is bad for you read my line. Owen, I'm lying about what? So if I do a parody of an Irish person, is that the hatred-
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Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, and they like it. Don't do it. All right? No, but you're pretending. Martin's thing. Martin runs a fucking platform. I didn't know it. What? How am I supposed to know that? It's a Greco-Roman platform?
Starting point is 00:29:46 But you didn't know that until two minutes ago. I know and I- You thought it was a truth or platform two minutes ago. He claims the free speech platform. He's lying and telling people that Owen. Oh, everything you talk about people talk about there already. They already do it. So why was that thi the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi tho thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, thooooooooooooooooooooooo. Oh. Oh, thoooooooo. Oh, tho. Oh, tho. Oh, the. They already do it. Everyone's doing it. Why was that kicked off, Sam? Because you have a history, Owen. That's why. My history. Hosting Guard's Ructor Guilds award, four sour movies, so one of the leads of a sitcom. I know, what's my, I have four kids in a farm, Sam. Yeah, exactly. You're being a little deceitful little demon. Okay. What's my denial? That the history here, Owen. What's the history. Oh, the history. the history. the history. the history. the history. the history. the there th. the history. there's th. th. the history. th. th. the history. th. th. the history. the history. the history. the history. the history. the history. th. th. th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. thoooo. that you that's that's that that's the history thoooooooo. the history. thoo. tho. tho. th. th not, Owen. You're in denial, okay? What's my denial? That the gravel mask isn't hateful? What's my history?
Starting point is 00:30:29 What's your history? Why have you been kicked off several fucking platforms, Owen? You tell me? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You do you want? I will. Then, then, then, thenorn. Do you know my fucking history at all? I don't know. Justy thorn. Now be quiet for like once in your life, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Why do you think I call you smug? You think that's funny? No, Jesse thorne. You're yelling at me. Literally you said you weren't gonna get emotional. I'm not emotional. I'm trying to to to to to to to to to to to to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate to dominate a to dominate a to dominate a to dominate a care if you dominate brother. I'm not here to get no fucking more cheese mow. I'm not your brother dude.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Okay, exactly. You want me to explain I will. I'm here and having a conversation with you Owen. Be quiet, dude. Quiet for five minutes and I'll explain to you why I got kicked off. Nessie Thorne had a three-year-old he was planning on giving hormones to. I called him out publicly, I was accused of being transphobic and kicked off Twitter. I then, don't talk. I then was allowed to come back and I said, David Hogs, this is the fact is factually what
Starting point is 00:31:35 got me kicked off Twitter. David Hogg says that we shouldn't have guns, but he can't even grow pubs yet. The global media said that I was sexualizing a child, and then my account was banned permanently. That's literally why. Patriot on writing, and then my touring went to shit. Yukon, all these places said, you hate trans people, because of a fucking three-year-old.
Starting point is 00:32:02 No, I'm not done yet, dude. Because of a three-year-old, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. thi-I-I-I-I-I-I-s, th-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-s, that's, that's, that's, thoom, I was I was I was I was I was thi-s, I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was. th. th. th. th-s. th-s. th-s. th-s, th-s. th-s, th-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. thoomereease-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-s. thoomease-old. No, I'm not done yet, dude. Because of a three-year-old, that's why I got kicked off, Sam. All right? So don't fucking pretend that it's because a Jew hate, all right? It's not just... No, no, I'm not done yet, dude. Patreon said, my pound me too, pound me too, pound me too, pound me too. that' thii, that's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's, that's, that's that's tho, that's that's that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that, that, that's, that's that's that's that. that's why, that's why, that's why, that's why, that that that's why, that that that that's, pound me too, pound me too, pound me too, pound me too. In writing, that's why I was kicked off Patreon. Pound me too, now it's a hacky joke. I did it five fucking years ago. I was kicked out PayPal because of Caitlin, gender, woman of the year. that's why, one night, one night, I was drunk and I was crying because my friend died in Afghanistan,
Starting point is 00:32:46 and I was like, I knew about the war lobby and I was a fucking emotional wreck. That was the one night I was not being comedic and I was being actually sad, and I cried and I wept for my friend. And that was the one time, someone could look at that and say that guy scares me. But other than that, it's all illusions and it's pushed by this whisper campaign, and that's why I'm calling you out on it. Because you're gonna say, oh, you have a history.
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Starting point is 00:33:37 100%. Right. You're totally right. Owen, you're the M,, okay? The M word is a giant siop. It's been used to the fucking cause chaos and division. You're totally right, Owen. I really right, okay? Those words you, it's a joke, literally a joke. All right? You're totally right. But there's a rule, this, the society is what society is. And I'm going to be honest with you, Owen, you have a lot of fans with fake profile names and fake pictures that are yelling at me right now about and just writing fucking, uh, chill, M word. If I went to their businesses, Owen, and start screaming the M word in the middle of theirtheir thing, they wouldn't be all about free expression. And I totally understand it, Owen, I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:34:29 There's a giant hypocrisy when it comes to the M word, the way black people are allowed to say it and white people aren't. There's a history of it, but I get it, okay? Because it's an easy is called the game. We play the game. What's the game? Well, then that's where you are, man. You've chosen this. I know. I'm not mad at you or Martin, dude. I'm not mad. It's not me bad. It doesn't mean mad. It was your screaming's up passion. This stream if I didn't like you. I like you own. That's why I did this screen this stream. Okay. I got good information. Sc. Sc. that's screaming. that's screaming. that's screaming. that's screaming. that's screaming. that's screaming. th. that's screaming. th. th. th. that's screaming. th. th. th. that's screaming. th. th. th. that's screaming. th. that's screaming. that's screaming. S. S. that's screaming. that's screaming. that's that's that's that's that's th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to that's that's to to that's that's that's to to to to to to to the. I the. I that's why I did this screen, this stream, okay? I got good information to pass on, bro, and I am. Pass it on.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Go for it. Well, that's what I'm doing. Well, see, the thing is this, you and I have a certain thing, we take, we go different ways at but we have a lot of same beliefs. Okay. Martin is a good dude. He's a good dude. He's a tech guy, okay? How he reacts to that is not us. He's not a 20-something year comic banging, okay? He's a tech guy. He's a business dude, okay?
Starting point is 00:35:36 And his business is no different than a subway or a mom and pops place. He allows some people to say some dangerous ass shit on his website and he's allowed to say things that won't go in most places. Okay, they won't go. But he's allowed people to make money and pay their bills when a lot of other places wouldn't, okay? I know who else did that? It was Adolf Hitler. He got a lot of people to pay the bills. Anyway, hear me out. If Martin taxed me or calls their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. to to to to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He. He. He's. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tho. th. th. Last, if Martin texts me or calls me and says, hey, man, I'm not going to morally judge you. But they're good guys, man, the guys over there are good dudes, man, and they're getting fucking demonized right now. I'll back him up again. Dude, hear me out. I don't hold grudges. I only do stuff to change behavior or to defend myself. If someone's going to moralize me and ban me from their platform, I'm going to defend myself. If he says I've reviewed Owen, I get that he's joking. He's not a raise
Starting point is 00:36:29 dude man. And you know, maybe I'm not even done taught like this is my deal. Okay. If he says Owen's not a Nazi, he doesn't push porn, whatever the shit he's trying to imply. And he's obviously doing comedy. It's a little too too too too too too too too too too too to to to too. to too. too. to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to be to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be torying to imply. And he's obviously doing comedy. It's a little too intense for this platform, but I have no problem with him. I will literally, literally say that I've no problem with him. I support Rockfin, and that's it. But he didn't do that. And he was emailing people that I was, well, free speech has a line.
Starting point is 00:37:01 How is that a family guy doing comedy from a barn, milk and goats and making fucking cheese? That's his line, but not fucking all this other degenerated shit? You know, that's my problem with it. And it's a personal thing, and if he wants to do that, I would absolutely accept it. Oh, and if it was a personal thing,
Starting point is 00:37:18 he wouldn't have done it was. Of course he does. Why would they call me up and ask me should we let Owen Benjamin on the website if they didn't know who you were. Dude, 10 people asked me to do it they were on it. I don't even know what I don't know. But don't know what they called me and go should have on the website. I said yeah man we should. You should have. What we should have said yes. What we should have. What to say. What to say. What to say. What to say. What to say. What to say. What to say? What to say. What to say? What to say? What to say? What to say? What to say? What to say? What to do. What the to do. What is. What is. to say? to say? to do. What is. to do. to say? to say? to do. What is. What is. to do. the they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. they call me. I don't play a shame. That's fine and that's why you you are there on your website. That's why you do it on your website. It's great. These guys let so much shit go. They're letting people have a real fucking place to talk. Okay. That's just what it is. What do you said every word that you've said you've said you've gotten banned for. I've said a thousand times. They talk about everything you want on there.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They talk about it all. Why they let me? So then why they ban me? You have a reputation, bro. It's just whether you want to believe it or not thus. It's fine. the. It's. It's. It's. I. the. I. I. I. I. I. the. I. I. I. the. the. I. the. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. ta. ta. ti. ti. ti. ta. ti. ti. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toooo. ti. ti. ti. ti. live in an honest, a fucking place where everybody gets treated the same, but that's not this reality. And it sucks, because I watched people go up on stage and get rid of some super dog shit. And then I go up on it and they fucking shut down. I was doing a show at the comedy store one time, okay? And some comic was thinneau, and another comic came up, and another thin, thin, thus, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, thi, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this gay comic, and was like, I fucked his brother in the ass and everyone clapped. And they did a joke about losing a bet,
Starting point is 00:38:46 and they made me watch fucking gay porn in the bat. And the whole fucking place got quiet. That's not fair, but that's what it is. And that's why we have to, as comedians, we have to learn how to fucking beat it in a different way. And that's the the th th th the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, thin, thin, and thi, and thi, and their, and that's that, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, to, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, thoooooomorrow, and, and, and thin, do that. That's your fucking war. But that's on Martins. Marlon wants to fucking build a website. And all he talks about is helping content creators make more money. That's every video he puts out is how can you own your shit and make more money?
Starting point is 00:39:15 And that's what he does. Is that why you got offended by the kill your inner Jew thing? I don't know Owen, but it it th. th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th is thu, thu, that is that is thi that's thi thi, thus, that's that's th is that's that's thus, thi thi, thus, that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a he a thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, all that, all that, all that all politics and it's all games that it's not about the truth. It's not that website is about a lot of shit bro. You know what I was about your truth on my website we're asking them to fight our wars owin so here we are you fucking you do your thing, you're off to, you're off to your other website, and everyone's fight with each other. All my comments section is... So I'm the one who did that? You're such a fucking loser, man. I'm the, I'm the cause, I'm the call. No, you moved on and now everybody's have to pay price for, Owen, my whole fucking chill you fucking chill wasn't your behavior so it wasn't your behavior at all it's just me no okay
Starting point is 00:40:09 you think I'm in denial it's because you fucking where oh my behavior is called this but your behavior hasn't Sam just hear me out exactly Owen your whole I didn't even know what you just said all you do is jabber okay that's that's thou th I thou th I thi that the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the I the thi thi thi thi the thi the thi the the thi the the the the thi the the they. the the the they. they. their their they. the the their their their their the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. they. the the the thi thi thi thi thi the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. the the. Okay, that's what I thought. No, I literally, you don't even see how clear this is. Your whole message is what you know, fuck PC, truth or shit. Yeah. Family clubs need to be, and then you fucking do the same. You do the bidding of your master. You want to be my masters, Owen. Your people called you out for it. Oh and I didn't kick you off. Called you out for it. Owen, I didn't kick you off. No, but you fucking, you're a house nigger, dude. You, you were like, all right, hey, all right, Massa, give me those nickels. Not at all, master, give me my nickels. Yeah. Yeah, Owen, you don't have a fucking website which you fucking tau.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You're about money, you're. We all have our fucking bills. I built it and I offered you. Know what? It's all about money. You're trying to pay your bills, man. You're trying to pay your bills. How much money? You're getting kicked off these websites. Only fucking helps you get more subscribers to your website. You're, you know it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Okay. So that's why I got is to get everything. Oh, you're such. Owen, you just want to, Owen, Owen, there's an old saying in recovery. And it's just an old saying in general, which is insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, thinking and expecting different results. Thomas Addison didn't think so. Okay, you keep doing the same thing over and over again. Everybody else is wrong. You're right. Everybody else is wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Sam, I'm wrong all the time. There's nothing you said, Owen, that haven't been said on that website before. It's just the truth, Owen. It's just the truth. You're not understanding my point. I do understand your point. You're talkthat's not it. Talk about things that will get you kicked off everywhere else. Pizza gay, pedo gate, fucking all that shit.
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Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. But everything you've done, I got kicked off too. And you'll get kicked off rock fin too. And that day comes. It's never not happened. I'm the canary in the coal mine. You'll see 100% right on that. And the stuff you got kicked off on Twitter, you're right about that. You're right about that.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That's why I fight that. I get kicked off things two years before everyone else. That's where it is. And maybe it gets so big. It's the platform. And guess what? I build up my website as well and there will be a time while I'll just be on my website like you're doing. I can help you know, I know and we're going to work and I do love you. Oh, that's why we're talking to each other because I do love you, okay. But the rockfin has helped a lot of people that have been banned in a lot of places be able to pay their bills. And guess what? I hope the people that are yelling at me about Shackles don't have a job.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I'm not saying the job, you're doing the exact same thing. I'm not talking about you own. I'm talking about all these people that are attacking me and everybody on rockfinn for being shills for try and then. . their their their their their their th.. their their their th.. their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi thi their thi thi thi their thi thi thi. I thi. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I the people the people the people the people the people their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. I. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. I hope. thi th job because if you have a day job you're doing the exact same thing. Not really though. If you're getting the remote free speech, you can't act like you guys. What do you mean? I do everything you do Owen. I didn't get kicked off the website. When I got kicked off you in the back though and they saw that you in the back, Owen. You did like that. I said the exact same things I'm saying to you right now. Stabbing you in the back would not be having a conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:44:49 No, I do. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I'm not a dude. I have nothing to hide. their high. I'm their. Because I like you Owen, but I also like Martin and Jaime over there because they're good guys they're tech dudes They're tech dudes
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Starting point is 00:45:45 Who's selling hoars, Owen? But you are selling drugs though. What drugs? I don't know, don't you have like all these promo codes for like drugs and drugs and shit? I have a lot. Yeah, well, we have something. I don't know about you. I'm saying rock that.
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Starting point is 00:46:35 where I just know that right now, I'm not the most popular guy in Hollywood, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I, I'm, I, thak, thi, I, thi, I, th too shall pass. And I'm really in this spiritual place where everything ebbs and flows. And someday, I hope the people that I came up with will still love me and be friends with me. Because I only work from a place of loves. That's, I'm not perfect. And like you, I like to call out some people, thin, and I think we do itthe wrong way. And that's just the way it is. And a lot of people that you called out a long time ago went through some fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And maybe at the end of the day you were right about a lot of them. Right? But people get scared, especially in this dumbfuck town, right? They get scared. And they're all worried about conformity. I'm outside. Owen, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th and th and th and th and th and th and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thirty, th and, th and, thirty, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, they're thin, thin, thin, thoan, thin, thiii. And, thi, thi, thi, this about you and you don't need me to defend you but anybody who put out anything about Oh, Owen didn't have a good career. I go you don't understand how hard it is to make it in Hollywood Owen had a great fucking career. He did major movies. He's on a major TV show. He did specials he fucking crush it, okay? Anybody says own didn't do well owns they're full of shit. You fuck, you did 10 times better than me, dude. You did 10 times better than me, Owen.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You were able to make a real good living. I was always on the fringe. I'm not even on the fringe anymore. I've been kicked off the side, and I'm just doing my own thing. I'm not even part and that's life man, but I go on the road. I do fucking great. You did a lot of stuff I'm doing now before I did it. You deserve a lot of accolades for that. You moved, you got great house. I fucking tell everybody, you fucking won. You fucking one. You don't want to play a game. You said that. You don't want to to to the the game. the game. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to the to to to the to the to to to to the to the the the their their their the their their their their their. I. I'm their. I'm their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the theell people that everything's cool with Rockman? I will. I will. Do to tell me to tell. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. the the the the the the the the the the the the way. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do to to to to say to say. to say to say, to want to say want me want me want me want me to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say. to say to say to say to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. to say. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. to say, to say, to to to the way to to to say, the way the way to the way. to to the way. to to to to to make drama. I fucking, I swear to God I don't want to make drama. I do good comedy and it's from a place of love too.
Starting point is 00:48:51 It is. Like, my shit isn't hateful at all. I mean, I got this video, I'm gonna throw out this video of like blacks, gays, Jews, white, and they're all like, thi thu thu thu thu and thu and thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu that's thus thus thus thus thus, I'm that's that's that's like, I'm thus, I do thus, I do tho-I thu thu that's thathea to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thu to thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu that, I that, I to to that, I to to that to that that to thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to to to to to and they're all like, dude, this is why we love Owens Comedy, like I could do in a wheelchair, like, is the only guy that's willing to make fun of me. Well, you know I do it for love. That's why I was getting mad earlier, it was just because I know you know it's not hate.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I know that good comedians know what I'm it. There's a lot of miscommunication with Rock Fan. I mean, Mar- it's all good. I'll fucking tell people that we're cool. And, you know, I get it. People have to make a living. There's always a game to be played. But like, you know, it's just pretending. Like, people want to act like I make all this money when I'm kicked off. What's wrong with that, Owen? I don't know why everybody gets mad when someone does well. I don't, and I'm saying that about you.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I'm not even doing that well. I've like three grand in my checking account. I spent it all in my house. Well, you're doing, I think you're not a rich guy. Like I'm not a rich guy. Like I'm not a rich guy. You're killing it. You don't have a th. dude, that's great. No, I have collateral. I'm a wealthy guy. I'm not, yeah, you're killing it. You don't have a lot of Fiat money. So the fuck. No, yeah, exactly. I've a ton of wealth. I've
Starting point is 00:50:10 almost no money. Yeah. Right. So it's like you're doing fucking great and you, and listen, man, it's like when people go their own path, people have weird reactions to that. Yeah, you know, I just just just I just th. I just th. I just th. I just like th. I just like th. I th. th. th. they they they they they they're they're like, th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, you know, I just think the people at Rockfin are good people. This was a fucking weird situation and they're getting murdered by people. And it's just like, I for all the stuff they let you do man, they let you do a lot and they let they're always trying to find creators who have like have fucking our out laws given a chance man and I don't know maybe there's a way to work it out later down the line, but I think you're on it. But I'll definitely say, I'll definitely tell people that I see a much more reason.
Starting point is 00:50:52 The fact that it was a Greco-Roman site, you've made a good argument for like, you're doing, you're doing what you're doing. I get why you said what you said what you said you weren't you're bag, was like, you're like trying to say like these guys are like kind of like jumping tech guys. And it's like, you know, if I was in front of a crowd and they heard people laughing, they probably wouldn't understand it better. I don't know. Dude, where you're like, you're probably in farther ahead than I am. But like, we're like, we're like fucking out laws, thii. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. that that that that thi. thi. that th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that th. that that th. th. that that th. th. that th. th. that th. that th. that that th. that that thee. that that the. that that that that the. the. the. the. thi. the some people are just, they're just tech guys. They work in tech and they work in data and you know, and it's just, but dude, they get it for the most part. And this might be just something where it was just a miscommunication in some ways and a emotional overreaction.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I don't know, but I just know those guys. And all the times I've had talks with them. They've been nothing but good dudes and they really do want to help artists man. Like that's the always the conversation with them and you know again, my dad was a my dad I love him the pieces ma'am. One thing he always said to me is don't hate somebody for making a dollar and I don't hate them for trying to create a way for people to make money and I'm doing very blessed and I think you're blessed and you know the whole things I do you know I had a conversation with another comedian and he was talking about how he's watching all the people still in Hollywood just crash and burn. They're just going nuts and you see it happen all the time,
Starting point is 00:52:25 because if you want to work within this system, that fucking bend you over and fuck you in the ass, then you're gonna be in crazy town. And you're fucking not. You're your own man, you're a Ronan. There's no lords, no masters. And sometimes. Everybody's got though, you know. I still pay my taxes.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I still fucking. Well, yeah, we got it. That's the game. I mean, unless you want to go down deep that hole. Yes, I'm in that game. So yeah, I mean, dude. I really am not getting emotional. It's like, to today I had tothem. It's not easy, dude. It's not easy. I'm really not right now being emotional.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I'm like, I'm passionate, but it's not a moment. And I agree with that because I get accused of that a lot. And I know you're mistaking and you're from your professional. It almost reminds me of home. Well, where it's like, if people aren't yelling, you know freeze to death. We're all both from the same area and we, you know, we're both passionate. And while I'll say for me, I'm sensitive, I'm a sensitive guy. I try to get advice. I take, sometimes I, I take something personal, not that this situation wasn't personal
Starting point is 00:53:39 because you ended up being kicked off. So I'm not trying to say that. But at the end of the day, Owen, like you've done every time, you're gonna land on your feet and you're only, and this thing only helps you fucking grow. In my humble opinion, you don't wanna do crypto, so there's no real point for you to even wanna do it. So it's like you're doing you and profiling. Yeah, and so I'll definitely bury this hatchet. I'll definitely, I'll even text Martin like, dude, we're all good. Like I wish you well.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Swear to God, I wish him well. I just wish in the future if he's going to do something like this with an artist, like just be more, just be more like, I wish I could have been on the call. Because I don't know. Martin's an analytical guy. He's, you know, he's very analytical and sometimes he, you know, it's sometimes it doesn't come off. You know, emotionally maybe, I don't know, maybe correctly. He's morally judging so I didn't, my, he's just, but dude, let's not go back there because he's a good guy and this is a good conversation. He's a good guy, dude. Like, trust me, but I'd say it all the time about family guy and everything. Yeah, I think he has kids.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I know Jaime has kids and Hyme's a great guy too. And again, man, they've, they've worked with me. They let me get people on their. They thi th. people there that don't really have the biggest following to help grow and so they can make some money and feel like they're doing well because that's at the end of the day we all want to show get be shown appreciation for what we do. Yeah, totally. We always want to be loved. It's true.
Starting point is 00:55:14 It's true. All right, Owen. I love you, I'm glad conversation like this. And at the end of the day, you're fucking killing it. And you're your Ava system, and there's a lot of people who are in the system that I see aren't fucking happy. They seem like miserable people. It's like the system, I don't know how much longer it even has. And so that's why it's like, that's one reason why I get so passionate. I swear to God it's not ego or anger or anything. It's like, I'm almost witnessing a burning building. And I'm like, go, go, no, fucking go. Yeah. And sometimes, and I've had to deal with not having a savior complex,
Starting point is 00:55:56 which maybe I did a little recently with this where it's like, I'm like a chess guy that sees 16 moves around. I'm like, no, but if you do this now, they'll do this and then this and then this and they'll get the funding. They'll do, and I'm like, gotta stop it now, grassroots. And then people are like, why are you being a dick? I'm like, dude, Hollywood is burning to the ground already. And you know, that's why's food charges people are like. Everybody's been copying you dude. You were the first one to go off the grid and everybody's now doing it and it's very popular. And I say it all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Eddie Bravo talks about all the time. He's like Owen fucking did it first. I like Eddie's the Eddie's the Mexican Jamie Fox. He's just multi talented in a million different ways. Yeah I, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, thi, th. I th. th. th. th. th. thi, you are, you're thi, th. th. th. You th. You are, you are th. You are th. You, you are th. You, you are, you are the the th, you are, th, th, th, th, th. You th. You th. You th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. th. You, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. tho, tho. tho. the tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. th. th best. Eddie's the Mexican Jamie Fox. He's just multi-talented in a million different ways. Yeah, I like, he's a truth guy, I can tell. Yeah, so just to close it, I'll tell everybody, me and you're cool, you're definitely not a chill. And Martin, I probably just had a really bad thing with Martin. Like, I don't know, I like their helping people and yeah, well, I figured out.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I'm glad that we could bury this. I'm glad that we could talk it out and it wasn't always, always, dude. Always. You know, you know me, I get freaked out when people are talking about me and I'm not, I'm not there. And then I get It's like. It's true. It's true. It's all loose. It's all loose jacking. It's all. It's all loose jacking. It's all. It's all loose jacking. And even if it does crumble you're set up. to. the. I love you, I love you, I love you, I go run a fucking AA meeting right now. I love you buddy. Thank you for everything. Things coming on having a conversation and dude. I'm all about fucking screaming in agreement or disagreement. It's all love and we'll do it again a thousand times more. Come up and visit sometime bring the family I promise you. I promise you. I'm not that far that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. I'll th. th. th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll th. I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to tho. to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho. I'll to tho. I'll tho. I tho. I tho.

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