Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #573: Did The Nazis Escape To Latin America with Chaz Of The Dead

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Good morning's warm and welcome to Tim Fall. You know what I am? You know I'm here to do. I'm here to

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Starting point is 00:08:23 That's what we did purpose. Yeah, yeah on purpose and each episode this week is somewhat led into the next episode so we got into a very passionate debate on the last episode about Nazis and Nazis in Latin America and so we're gonna get into that we got a little bit about aliens with Nazi technology and all that stuff. So here's the final installment of our three-part series. Very excited to have him on. He's a writer, journalist, investigator. He's been on my premium content, I'm very excited to have him here. Please welcome for the first time of hopefully many times. Paranormal investigator. Chaz of the Dead. How are you, brother?

Starting point is 00:09:06 Oh, I'm awesome. Glad to be here. Excited to be part of the show and excited to get into some, you know, paranormal, Nazi weirdness. Yeah, those are a few of my favorite things. So, very excited to have you on the show. So, we very th, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. the to to to be to be to be to be the to be to be to be the to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to be too, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to bea, to bea, to bea, to bea, to bea, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be. to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, too. too. too. the the the the the the the the the th. thin, too, the too, too, the too, the too, too, the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too. to have you on and spend it. We we talked like a month or two ago on the last show But for those who didn't hear you on that show, can you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself and where they can find you? Yeah, absolutely. So I'm a paranormal investigator. I've been doing it for I guess more than a decade now

Starting point is 00:09:38 And I do all kinds of stuff UFO UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, and kind of look at the connection between the phenomenon and our consciousness. So there's a little psychedelic drugs in there as well. And I try to mix it all together with some on-the-ground journalism. And a kind of new approach to researching the paranormal. You can find all my stuff at Chaz of the Dead on all the social media. And Chaz of the dead dot dot dot dot dot. th. th. th. th. thp-a-in. th. th. tht. I I I I I I tht. I th. I tht. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I paranormal. You can find all my stuff at Chaz of the Dead on all the social media's and Chaz Badead.com is where I post my podcasts, books, articles, all that good stuff.

Starting point is 00:10:13 So you've written some books, you're basically contributing to a magazine that deals with the paranormal? Yeah, absolutely. Paranormality magazine. They're good to me over there. They carry a lot of my research and the second book is in the process of coming out soon. Can't get into too much details on that one. But the first book, Paranormal Expeditions, Hunt for the Friendship is kind of what got me into really looking heavy into UFOs and subsequently Nazis in South America.

Starting point is 00:10:54 That ended up being a larger role than I expected in my investigations into this supposed extraterrestrial group down in Patagonia. Yeah, it's super interesting. So when we ended up a paranormal, I think most people think paranormal is only ghosts. What are your thoughts on what exactly paranormal is and what it represents? Well, I can't blame people for that. You know, you think paranormal investigator, you think Zach Baggins on Travel Channel, right? That's the natural assumption there and, you know, ghosts and demons and kind of cheesy, a lot of black, expensive

Starting point is 00:11:34 equipment that doesn't really do anything. And that's definitely part of it. I mean, that's kind of how I entered the field as more of that hobbyist looking into it for fun. But once you really dive deep into some of the more esoteric ideas and things out there, it gets pretty weird. And the moment for me where I realized that the paranormal is more than just ghosts in old houses was when I was doing these Weegee board and magic mushroom experiments. And so, you know, the Weegee Board, ooh, very spooky.

Starting point is 00:12:13 We see a lot of scary movies. I've had mine for for many of years. I use it to roll my, my dobies on now. But back then I was using it, you know, as intended to try to communicate with, with, you know, entities, spirits, whatever. And I figured using a psychedelic substance, you know, a psychoactive substance might help me facilitate that. And I tried weekend after weekend to try to get these ghostly responses and nothing happened. But in the home... How much shrooms are you eating?

Starting point is 00:12:48 Well I was doing various blends of teas. So I went anywhere. I think the lowest was two and a half grams to, I think, up to five was the range. You see shit with shrooms alone. What's that? You see shit with shrooms alone, let alone pulling out the Wigi board and fucking out. Yeah, I mean you are dancing with the crazy at that point, right? Well, that was the, yeah, that was the intent.

Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, that's what I did. Really wanting to experience something. And again, during these experiments, it was nothing. I had some good trips. I had some weird, you know, synchronicities, but no like spooky voices or phantoms or anything like that. But in the times between the experiments, I started to see UFOs. And I hadn't really ever, you know, seriously investigated UFOs. I kind of looked into it here and there, and went to some hot spots and things. But I started, the first one I saw was this object that kind of burst into a bunch of smaller

Starting point is 00:13:50 objects. It was bright orange and it almost looked like a satellite or like a Star Warship blowing up in the atmosphere, you know, scattering around. And you know, I try to find anything that would confirm that, you know, call local airports and things like that. Nope, no one else seemed to note this strange explosion. And I was like, okay, that's kind of weird. A couple weeks later, I'm describing this to a friend of mine and he's like, okay, sure dude. Weegey boards, mushrooms, UFOs, you've lost the plot. I'm like, all right, fair enough that it it that it that it th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. I thi. I th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm t. t. t. t. try. t. t. toda. try. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. th. right, fair enough. It does sound pretty fucking crazy.

Starting point is 00:14:26 And then almost ironically, we start to hear this metallic hum. And this triangle-shaped craft, light in each corner, this black triangle, a classic UFO shape, just buzzes right over us. I mean, it was low to the ground. I could have hit it with a rock. It was right above the tree line. And, you know, it felt intentional. We were having this conversation about how ridiculous it was and laughing off this UFO. And then it was like, oh, no, here you go. And my buddy was not a paranormal investigator.

Starting point is 00:14:56 He'd never seen anything like that before or since. And, you know, to this day, he's, you know, gobsmags. they're like, fuck. that was the tho tho tho tho tho thiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. It was th. th. th. It was ags. Like, fuck, that was a UFO. There's no other words to describe that. And yeah, it kind of just hovered over us and carried on. Carried on, you know, and I have a lot of questions. And it's very interesting. So, you know, it's, I just did a podcast last night on zero, my spiritual podcast. And it was, we were talking about how like you attract what you are almost basically what you're looking for right like if you're open-minded to it you tend to want to see that and that's why people tend to see that's why like if you want to like I

Starting point is 00:15:39 want to hang out I want to meet I want to be more spiritual you start meeting more spiritual people right you want to do scumbuck-like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their thi thi their their their thi. thi. thi. I their their thi. I their their thi. I their their their their their. their their. I their. I their. I their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their th. I I I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I te. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I want to meet, I want to be more spiritual, you start meeting more spiritual people, right? You want to do scumbag stuff, you start hanging out with a bunch of sco- and then, and then dude, and he brought up some really good last night, it was basically about like when you don't want to do anything, it's kind of crazy how people who you use hang out with kind of fall to the side, right? Because you're not into that action anymore. And I think that's kind of with all this paranormal stuff that you've got to be really in to see it, to see it. Now, obviously, there are people who don't, maybe at one point, didn't believe in it and then suddenly see it.

Starting point is 00:16:21 But I would say that they probably are open-minded to these things, which allows them to eventually graduate to point where you see these things. I think that's a big part with Bigfoot. It's like if you don't see it, you're never going to be able to see it. But my question to you is, you know, the UFO stuff, that doesn't necessarily mean extraterrestrial, right? Well, that could easily be Ameri-US government, military, industrial complex, uh, aircrafts, right? Absolutely. And I actually, so my, my main viewpoint of, you know, the paranormal is from that kind of psychedelic, viewpoint, that, you know, our consciousness, somehow interact with, threat, is, that, is, that, is, thiiii. is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is from that kind of psychedelic viewpoint that

Starting point is 00:17:06 you know our consciousness somehow interact with reality and between that interaction it facilitates these super weird things. Am I convinced that's 100%? No, of course not. Because you know if I was I'd have an alien to show you right now. But it's my number one theory. My number two theory I passionately call B theory and I now. But it's my number one theory. My number two theory I passionately call B theory and I think we talked about it a little bit on the other show. Well before we get to that because I want to start from the beginning with you and then we'll get into your B theory because that's a big part of what you want to talk about here so I don't want to jump right into that but I want to get into

Starting point is 00:17:52 Villa Barvia Colonna Villa Bavaria. Okay let's get so that was a big discussion we had the last episode Nazis in Latin America Johnny believes there were Nazis in Latin America, but not necessarily Adolf Hitler. And I think Hitler did make it there. I could be wrong. What are your thoughts on that? Well, I went in deep on that subject in my book, Hunt for the Friendship. Because this this group I was looking for, this supposed group of extraterrestrial, they were all tall, blonde, and scientists and they could speak multiple European languages including Dutch and German in a few instances. So naturally, you know, South America, I was thinking, well, there's, you know, Nazis a plenty down there

Starting point is 00:18:44 after the war. Perhaps this could be an explanation for's, you know, Nazis are plenty down there after the war. Perhaps this could be an explanation for this, you know, alien group. So I went down there to Chile and, you know, I looked into some UFO angles and things as well, but in my search investigating the Nazi angle, I found a lot more than I expected. The first place I stopped off was a grave site in Santiago Chile in the general cemetery for a Walter Ralph. He was an SS officer who was famed for the mobile gas chamber and that was before they set up the big camps. They would basically pack people in these moving bands and loop the exhaust from the, yeah,

Starting point is 00:19:28 from the truck into the back and just gas them while they were driving around town, you know, they found that was too inefficient. Yeah, they were, that's why they didn't continue that. They wasn't quite efficient enough. Yeah, dude, that's like a food truck and then you get an actual restaurant, like you just gotta step it up. That's crazy. Yeah, they, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th, th, th, their th, th, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the exhaust, the exhaust, the exhaust, the exhaust, the exhaust, the exhaust. Yeah, their, their, their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theea, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the food truck and then you get an actual restaurant like you just got to step it up Yeah, I mean crazy I don't know how that makes it fun That's crazy they had a mobile like how do you just yeah not big enough that's what it was it's not just not big enough Well, well they were using it was the body they managed to rack up. I think it was 97,000 people they believe were executed with that method the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their th th their th th tho that?? tho tho they they they that? that. they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they. they. th. the. the. ty. te. te. tea tea tea tea tea tea thea thea they're they're,000 people they believe were executed with that method before they had the whole camp. And were these like Latins or who were these people that they were executing?

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Starting point is 00:20:32 He died a free man in Santiago. He's buried next to his wife and his son. There's rose bushes on his grave site like well trimmed, you know, maintained rose bushes. And it said that when he was interned there, he was lowered down while they were shouting, Howl Hitler as they lowered them into the guine. Yeah, he was an accepted part of the community. Guys, I hate to tell you this, but there is a arena in Alabama named after Von Braun.

Starting point is 00:21:10 It's not that crazy. That's true. We're sending money to Ukraine right now. It's not that crazy. It's super tragic. It's mind-blowingly sad, but it is not that crazy that this guy died peaceful. I mean we have people like Henry Kissinger right now, Cheney, George Bush Sr. died peacefully with his family. Anthony Weiner. Yeah, I mean like it's just like so try. I mean yeah and in the

Starting point is 00:21:46 Chilean government was pretty much taking the same stance as the US government. You know they saw these dudes as assets. You know, Von Braun was obviously worth a lot more. We got a lot more valuable shit out of him than I think the Chilean government got out of the mobile gas chamber guy, but it was still the same thought process, right? It was like these guys are really good at a specific thing killing people. And so, you know, might as well keep a couple of them around. Yeah, I did. When they got the draft order, they got so pissed.

Starting point is 00:22:18 They're like, oh, we're picking 10th. There's gonna be nobody left by that. You, oh great, we get the guy with the mobile gas state. Fuck it. I wanna know what Mexico got. Yeah, Mexico. Maybe we're getting all the old Soviet. Yeah. Ah, it's a good point.

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Starting point is 00:25:13 at this compound. And I actually went out to it. It's in the middle of the Andes Mountain, miles away from anywhere. There's no bus or anything. I had to take a bus to a village and then go up and knock on some guy's door and ask them to take me to the rest of the way. That's what they told me to do at the bus station. So, so I did. And he drove me, you know, a few more hours

Starting point is 00:25:38 into the, to the mountains and to pass these old abandoned guard watch towers and fences to this small little German themed community called Villa Bavaria and they've got a little hotel, they've got like wood burning fire. There's still people there? Yep, there's still German descent people living there. And a good German restaurant, good sausages and beer. But back in the 70s, 80s, this compound was set up by a man named Paul Schaefer.

Starting point is 00:26:18 And he was eventually arrested for pedophilia. And he basically ran this pseudo-Christian death cult, Nazi death call out in the middle of the mountains. And he used it to pray upon children, but the government used it to make people disappear. Pinochet, the dictator who seized control in Chile. With the CIA's help, it was a CIA-backed coup, which is all just, you know, public history in Chile.

Starting point is 00:26:49 They're like, yep, the CIA stepped in and helped Pinocet. And they killed the guy that was elected, the socialist, and seized control. And Pinocet would use this compound to get people just disappeared. When he, you know, wanted them to either be tortured for information or things like that, they'd say, send them to the Germans. And... Oh my God, dude. Yeah, they think upwards of 500 people were executed out there and buried and we just have

Starting point is 00:27:18 no idea where they're at. They're officially, no one knows where those where those graves are at. Man, when you're a murderer and a pedophile, you've done this trip all wrong. You've really messed up your journey, bro. He served as a Nazi. He was a medic before he, you know, he actually, I think, ended up working after the war for the Vatican shortly. And of course, of course he would, because he was a pedophile. And they kind of shuffled them around until he ended up in South America and started this,

Starting point is 00:27:54 you know, death cult. And the way they initially sold it to the local government is, oh, we'll build a hospital. And they did. And as part of this hospital, they would, you know, torture the the their their their their their their their toorture their toorture toorture to to to to to to to to to to told to the local government is, oh, we'll build a hospital. And they did. And as part of this hospital, they would, you know, torture and experiment on people. Mangala served a couple terms at the hospital. Oh, wow. Dr. Mangala. And well, it became one of these locations that are throughout South America, where they would shuffle the most wanted Nazis like Mangala and Eichmann and some of these other most noted

Starting point is 00:28:27 Nazis that couldn't stay in one spot for too long because they were afraid of getting got. They would spend a couple months there and then they moved to the Belorche. It was another town in Argentina. A lot of people think Hitler lived out there after the war. But it was thought that because it was known as one of these spots. There's this hotel where you could show up pretty much any time of the year and there'd be a couple SS officers just, you know, hanging out, having drinks, chilling at the bar. So before the war was over, I'm guessing they had a treaty with the president of Argentina nor Chile, like, hey, if shit goes down, we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we th., we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi, it's, it's, thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th had a treaty with the president of Argentina nor Chile like hey if shit goes down we're gonna head over there? It wasn't an official treaty it was kind of a more unspoken thing right you know they remained neutral

Starting point is 00:29:13 during the war most of South America you know they and by neutral they hedged their bets they were kind of playing both sides waiting to see how things went out but you know as things began to collapse, since they were playing both sides, they had these, you know, the precursor to the rat lines kind of already set up. They had these, these places where it was, you know, known that it was mostly German. And before, long before World War II and that kind of stuff, even before World War I, Chile and Argentina specifically set up

Starting point is 00:29:51 like these German-themed towns. Like they were specifically to attract Scandinavian and German tourists. So a lot of these dudes had just aunts and uncles who lived over there. You know, it was kind of like how a lot of British people have family who live in Spain. You know what I mean? It was just like, oh yeah, that's where old people go to retire. It was kind of like their, you know, late 1800s, Florida. It's just weird that you would set up a place that's kind of like their home. Right?

Starting point is 00:30:25 Is that like kind of weird? Yeah, that's the, that's one of those things about like Austin. You know, people are moving to Austin now and making it like LA. Yeah, like, why did you move to Austin? Yeah, 100%? It's the same thing. Or did I tell the story before about how I would work at PF Changs in Vegas, and they would have Chinese people visiting businessman, and they would take them to a Chinese restaurant.

Starting point is 00:30:48 You're like, they're from China. I want that. Take them to like Domino's pizza or like, to like a burger king. Like, get them in and out. Yeah, that's like taking somebody to America and and taking to them to, you know, Miko Donalds or something. You know, it's like a kind of a pale imitation of what they're used to. You're right. And the same thing with Austin, you're like, if you hate in LA, way to you get to Austin.

Starting point is 00:31:14 We're the exact same thing. Welcome. So it is, it is, it's super interesting and you know they could pull this off for the law, it's like, it's like when you go, okay the CIA ran a coup, you know, the Vatican, I'm like, yeah, because they're all the same thing. They're all working together, Nazis, the Vatican, the CIA, they're all working together. So there is this giant system, this set up to shuffle people around. And like with no internet, it's like yeah, it's really easy to like lose somebody down there. And like, like if you're a, like not to be disreserved, but if you're a peasant in like, in Latin America, how much of World War II do you know about?

Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah can be too much. Right you're in the middle you do you're lucky if you got electricity at this point you're just farming working fucking calling it a day right that's it which is a great life a few images you'd seen in the newspaper that be it. Especially if your country's not even part of it. Are they even putting it on the news type of shit? No, according to Chas, they decide to get neutral for a reason, right? And then, right? Then all these guys start coming down, you're like, they're pretty shady Germans.

Starting point is 00:32:37 But, hey, man, I don't know, they pay in this evil gold. They had all these German communities that were already set up down there. So, you know, if you declare war on fucking Germany, you're going to piss off, you know, you've been trying to court and get over there because, you know, no one wants to live in the frozen turkey last week. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what's happening in France right now, right? Like France is like very much anti-war in the Middle East because they have such a giant Islamic population now through forced immigration. So it's like they're less likely to want to get involved in all this craziness because of their population because you know I mean they're going through their own shit so Latin America th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thri. they're thi. they're going through their own shit so Latin America totally makes sense that

Starting point is 00:33:27 you would hide these people then you got you know we talk about before I'm sorry but just lame bunchens right like that is a straight or whatever what's her name gazelle bunches is all okay but ding the other thing at home if you if you have that you got Glenn Maxwell on the brain oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I do have her on the brain but I thought he was talking about but no but Tom Brady's wife what's her name? Just help bunching yeah I mean like that is as German a name as you can get like she's super German dude and she couldn't marry more of an Aryan motherfucker than Tom Brady.

Starting point is 00:34:05 Right? Yeah, fuck Tom Brady. Right, I mean, so Josh Allen go bills. I mean, you look at her, she's like German man. But she's has Brazilian like she claims to be Brazilian, but she is German dude. Yeah. And they're no, it's pretty bizarre how the Nazis got pretty chill about the race thing once they moved down to South America. Yeah, that is great.

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Starting point is 00:35:06 There's no way. Yeah, that is weird. But guys don't care. Don't give a fuck. You know, they're just like. Any race has got a bone beyond. So, they're bearing bones wherever. So, in my book, I posit a pretty interesting theory that I'm, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that is, that, that's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, that, that, there, that, that, that, that, that, that, there, that, there, that, that, is is, is, is, is, is, is the, is the it down there? So in my book I posit a pretty interesting theory that some other historians, you know, smarter than me have suggested.

Starting point is 00:35:33 And that was, you know, towards the end of the war, he handed over final control to Carl Donuts, who was the final furor of the third Reich. He was out of the Navy, right? Yeah, he was in charge of the third right. He was out of the Navy, right? Yeah, he was in charge of the Navy and submarines, more specifically before he was Admiral. He was the guy who set up all the unrestricted submarine warfare. Now did he get the gig because he was kind of a Western-friendly, sort of a guy that wasn't involved in as much of the final solution share.

Starting point is 00:36:01 He was more of a statesman. Right. Well, yeah, it was sold to him that, you know, you'll take over. And it was actually kind of to get him out from some of the submarine shit, which was pretty brutal. Yeah, the civilians killed. Yeah. Well, the idea was he would targeted civilian ships on the seas. The fla. T. they. I idea idea idea idea idea idea idea. I idea. I the the the idea. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. It. tha. the. the. the. It was. It was. It was. It. It. It was. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. It was. civilian ships like trade and stuff. Oh, okay. And a lot of civilians died that way.

Starting point is 00:36:27 So he's saying that they perhaps moved to spare Durnit's the judgment from all that by making him the head of state toward the end of the war. Right. The idea is Donuts would spend the last couple months surrendering all of his forces to be out to Western allies, specifically avoiding the Soviets and trying to surrender to, you know, the, the, Yeah, they were all racing to, dude, they were racing to surrender to the West, not to the Soviets. Sovia was not really. Yeah, yeah, dude. I mean, it was a big race of all the high-level Nazis that were still in Germany at that time to surrender to the West because they knew they would get better treatment than the Soviets who had just

Starting point is 00:37:07 lost half their population without shoes and with like these old muskets, like the Soviet army was not well equipped. And that's how they were treating their soldiers. So the Nazis knew that the prison camps they were being sent to in in in in in to in to in to in to in to in to in to in to in to in to to to to to to to to to to to to the prison camps they were being sent to in Russia were not a place you'd want to be. So Donuts kind of set it up as like a peacebringer at the end of the war, like himself, that he was gonna cool things out. And it worked from our perspective. He only got, I think, like three years or something in prison

Starting point is 00:37:42 after the whole thing went down at the Nuremberg trials and he was pissed by that. He thought that was outrageous. He thought he didn't do anything wrong. He was like fucking livid that he had to do it. Those trials are fascinating, huh? Yeah, I'd love watching that. But like you see like Gering who thought he thought he was going to this guy, you know, he he th th like tho. tho. he he he he he he he he he he he's he's kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind. He kind of, the they. He was like, th. He was like, they. He was like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, he. He. He's. He's. He's. He was, th. He's. He. He was, th. He. He. He was. He was. He. He was. He was, th. He. He. He was. He was like, like guy, you know, he thought, oh he kind of welcomed the, you know, he surrendered himself and welcomed in the, and it was like trying to be chummy with all the. I mean if you read the devil's chessboard man, I mean they get into like a lot of these Nazis thought they had deals and they were pretty brazen with how they were acting with they were just they were openly they the the the the they were the they were they were openly... they were openly. they were openly. they were openly. their. they were openly. they were openly. they were openly. they were openly. They were openly. They were openly. They were openly. They were openly. They were openly. They were openly. They were openly. they. they were openly. they were acting. they were. they were openly talking about all the shit they did because they thought they had deals which again Gets into like how much of the history of the Nazis is what is real versus what we're told

Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, right like we like our whole notion jazz is right now is that these guys were on the run, right? They were on the run, but what if they weren't on the run? What if they? they weren't on the run? What if they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they, they they they they they they they they they the, that, that that that that that that that that that that their their that their, their, their, they're they they that these guys were on the run, right? They were on the run. But what if they weren't on the run? What if they sacrificed a couple of these guys? Von Braun wasn't on the run? My point is like, it sounds like, if you take the, if you zoom back and you look at everything going on, it doesn't seem like a lot of like hiding and running It seems more of a re-branding Depends on who you were like guring I mean in the ultimate mercy he got was somebody Slipped him a cyanide pill or whatever and they he treated on instead of getting hanged and that was some people and some people got out Yeah, it's I mean then you then you had guys like thin? that? thin the the theater. thi th, the th, the th, the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the. the the the the. the you you you you you you the you you you you you you you the you you you you you you you you the the the the the you the the you the you the you the you you you the the the the the the the the the the you you you the you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. they. they. the they. the the the they. the the the the the the the theater of the moment. Because if we're going to push this notion that the allies beat the Nazis, right,

Starting point is 00:39:28 which was probably more Russia than the West, let's face it, they sacrifice a lot of people, okay? Well, hey, that's now, I'd like to ask him about that. What do you think, Sam's got this idea that the Nazis somehow won the war still? I do think that definitely a lot of high brass Nazis were absorbed into you know our you know military and our civilian sciences and it's definitely had a lasting impact on you know the ideology of some of these these groups. Though I think a lot of the ones in South America those were definitely the guys who got left out like they they of the ones in South America, those were definitely the guys who got left out.

Starting point is 00:40:07 Like they were the ones who had deals who fell through. And in Villa Bavaria, they have a barn that's turned into a museum and they're pretty honest about it. They're like, yeah, this was one of those stops on this underground railroad of Nazi prisoners. And Adolf Eichmann was an example of what happens if you try to get off the train, because he stayed in Argentina in one city for too long. He like was a principal at a school, at this German school down there. And the Massad, you know, grabbed him off the street one day, threw him in a van, flew him to, drove him to a private airstrip, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, their, their, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, the, the, and, the, and, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, uh, and, uh, and, uh, and, the, the, and, theirad, you know, grabbed him off the street one day, threw him in a van, flew him to, drove him to a private airstrip.

Starting point is 00:40:49 Illigally. He got to Israel and he was hanging for the next day. I mean, that was famously illegal, Massad, that was a whole, like, undercover. There's a couple great films about it. Arjunct. Masad, like, theyr...lip was pissed, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the.. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the country, pulled this guy off the street, you know, and they had to make sure it was him, you know, they weren't 100% sure until the last moment. And then they, yeah, and they took him back for trial. No, I totally get that. Again, this, and listen, man, every great facade, and this is just me sticking to my guns, there's a lot of people who in it. And there's a lot of people who are playing into the narrative.

Starting point is 00:41:26 So the notion that people in Israel would want to get these guys, totally yeah, that makes sense because this narrative was set up. But you're right, even there are a lot of famous, like Albert Spayer. I mean, he went to jail, he was Hitler's top architect guy. I mean, he designed all those buildings the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, the new, th., the new, th. the new, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. thi. the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, their, their, their, their, the the their, the the their, their, the th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. the. the. the. the the. the the. the. the he went to jail he was Hitler's top architect guy I mean he he designed all those buildings that were gonna be you know the new Berlin that whole modern era and he he went if he went to jail for like a couple of years or something yeah you're like oh dude we got get him but he did three years oh oh I mean and he died in peace I mean I mean interviewed on 60 minutes and shit. That does go back to Carl Donuts because he also famously said at his Nuremberg trial

Starting point is 00:42:08 that the Fure has constructed a hidden, a fortress hidden in paradise on earth. And that's the quote a lot of people like point to and say that there's a secret Nazi Antarctic base. In my book I suggest that it could be a secret Patagonian base, you know, associated with this friendship group because Patagonia is probably closer to a paradise than Antarctica. But he did again, throughout the trial make these vague threats and implications that like the Nazis had continued like that they weren't done yet. And again they only gave him three years. That's my whole thing like him talking shit like that. So it is pretty bizarre. Was he talking shit or was that like a secret message to the the Nazis that were still

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Starting point is 00:43:34 questioned, like, he already knew he was going to get time and he was pissed about it. And he was like, yeah, fuck you guys, whatever, you know, send me to prison. You're not going to hang me because whatever deal he had already reached. He already knew he was getting a pretty fucking sweet deal. And yeah, he was basically getting heated and making these bold, brash kind of claims. And again, they gave him three years. And Johnny, I mean, Dulles, it is insane to me that Dulles has an airport named after those brothers for what they did to this country. And it's like I said, I'm broken to him. If you have a street or a building or something named after you in Washington, you're most likely a war criminal. Right? I mean it's

Starting point is 00:44:25 just a truth. That's funny that they'll take down a statute but not like don't name a Von Brown stadium after and no one's bitching about that. Right? I mean that's just more more. It just keeps coming that like there was this theater and like and sadly as the generation of the Holocaust begins to pass away and the emotional ties come to it, there will be more and more discussions of a lot of these things. And it's just going to be the way it is. And it just sucks because I think a giant con, I mean, Dulles actively worked to get as many of those Nazis over here. I mean, it just, like everyone's like, we drafted them, or they just walked over and they're like,

Starting point is 00:45:10 I'm gonna do this job, I wanna do this job, I'm gonna have a job here, I'm gonna create this, I'm gonna create that, and it just becomes part of this giant, international system. But morally, they should have been killed. They should all be killed. If the story is that we're told is real, they should have all been executed. Well that just proves, that I mean that just shows you how cynical our government is. If they had any sort of knowledge that could be useful to us, we

Starting point is 00:45:37 were going to get it out of them. And you know, that I mean you kill kill him. If you look at Nuremberg, though, like Rudolph Hess, who was probably insane, I mean, this is a guy who, during the war, got in an airplane in Germany and flew to Scotland to negotiate a peace treaty on his own by himself, landed, you know, crash landed, and I think he ended up in like the countryside of North England maybe. I don't think he quite got to where he wanted to. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, th, th, the th, the th. That's, tho, the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, I, I, I, I, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, thin, I'd, thin, thi. And, I'd, I'd, I mean, thin, th. And, thin, th. And, theean, thin, thin, th. And, I'd, I'd, North England maybe. I don't think he quite got to where he wanted to. That's how, and then he just ended up in jail. Yeah, of course. They're probably all tweaking, bro. If you watch him during Nuremberg, though, the trial,

Starting point is 00:46:11 he's trying to, the other Nazis are convinced, he's putting on an act. And he's just like bobbing it it it, and looks like, and he's like, and he's like, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. t. to. t. to. t. ttttttttttttthe. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the watch it sometimes. Can you live stream it on YouTube? I'll see if I'm going to find it. So if you had to guess, do you think Hitler made it to Latin America? If you had to guess? Well, I think I'm a betting man, so I don't think I would take that bet with the evidence we've got. I think the evidence is really interesting. Again, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there, so there, so there, so there, so, so, so, so, so there, so, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, so there, there's there's there's there's a there's a there's a there's a there's a the, so I's a the, so I's a theananananumoomorrow, so I's there's a there's a there's a there's a there's there's with the evidence we've got. I think the evidence is really interesting. Again, there's a couple places there in Bariloche, there's this house that used to be only accessible by boat

Starting point is 00:46:54 like across this lake in the mountains, and people said Hitler was living up there. There's a photo from Brazil, of a dude who definitely looks like Hitler with like what you say? Okay but would you say he definitely 100% committed suicide and that the Russians have his dog? I don't believe the suicide story. I don't believe the suicide story. I definitely wouldn't bet on that story either. I don't think there's any evidence there. They they looked at the skull fragments fragments they had and they weren't his. So that story that story I don't necessarily believe it.

Starting point is 00:47:25 And again, Carl Donuts was the guy who had all the routes and had all the submarines at his command. So if there was anyone who would be like, all right, here, I'm going to give you this sweet bargaining position. You put me on a submarine and get me the fuck out of here. Let's, you know, make this happen. That would have been the guy to do that with and there is a theory that he lived on one of these advanced submarines just forever like the submarine just kept landing at these little you know Nazi friendly ports little pit stops little

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Starting point is 00:48:35 going into harbor and surrendering it and almost all the time there was some super fishy shit going on with those crews the crew manifests were always thrown out so you never could be really sure who was who. One instance they had like there was clearly there used to be a gun on the top of the U-boat like this big gun that they had just like redged up. And they were able and like a few days prior a a Brazilian cruise liner or a cargo ship, I believe, was sunk by what was believed to be a Nazi U-boat. So they were pretty sure those guys were responsible. That's so crazy, right?

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Starting point is 00:49:57 definitely not as I hope you can blow it up like here's a bunch of bombs ghost boats so so as you know and I want to get more into this, this alien or this unusual village of people. You know, Nazis have been well known to believe in the occult and believe in the, you know, the operation high jump is a, whether that's real or fake. I mean, that's the Bay, Admiral Byrd and the Nazis and, I mean, like, all we hear is New Schwab in Land, right? New Schwab in Land, and who's the guy trying to run everything right now? Klaus Schwab, the W.E.F and all that crazy shit, you know, they got the W.E.F. has their own police now and like the badges are Aries which is the God of

Starting point is 00:51:00 death and orange which is the color of death. I mean like what are we doing here? I mean like that's what I'm saying it's like the guy who's dad supposedly had his own like put golf course on on in in you know Antarctica. How long is he? How long is he? Who? George Soros? I don't do. I mean? What he is when he looks? It's like, that's what I'm saying. Like, aren't they supposed to be like almost dead? Callshrubs as well? As well? No, Klaus. Clashwob is 84. Clashwob is 84? It's 804. See what I mean, what I mean is he got around I mean I mean for an evil fuck that guys looks 91 oh yeah I mean they evil that keeps you young yeah it's the eat like that sounds like a perfume a perfume I'm pickled is a saint it's the evil that keeps you young pickled in evil so so so what are your thoughts on that you know we have this this this try this this trid this thi this th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the this the this this the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try ty try try the the the the the the the the the the the the that? You know we have this tribe, this group of people

Starting point is 00:52:10 in Latin America speak a billion languages. One of them is German, tall, blonde, blue eye. Tell us a little bit about that. They alien connections to the Nazi. So yeah, this group's called the friendship. That's what they call themselves. And interestingly enough, they alien connections to the Nazis. So yeah this group's called the the friendship that's what they call themselves and interestingly enough they use the English word the friendship you know in their you know Spanish-speaking Chile so it's one of the first many bizarre details of this group and they're elusive they live somewhere in Patagonia and that's based on the interactions they've had with people and various ports, you know, around that area.

Starting point is 00:52:51 And for those who don't know, Patagonia is that southern end of South America, where it's all a bunch of tiny islands. There are fjords, pebble rock beaches, mountains that turn into, you know, right into the ocean. Some really stunning, beautiful land, but really remote. Not many people live out there. Like the only thing economically out there is fish farming. They've got these salmon farms periodically, but other than that, it's just empty wilderness

Starting point is 00:53:21 in these few tiny port towns. And throughout, starting in the 80s, people in these towns started having this weird interaction with these tall, blonde, humans, essentially. But they were claiming that they were aliens from the center of the universe. And it's very reminiscent for those who are into their UFOlogy. It's very reminiscent of the contactee, you know, early 50s kind of alien encounters, where aliens were, you know, humanoid looking and, you know, they had some similar interactions. They were interested on us like sexually, but instead of probing us, they like appear as a hot blonde lady and just

Starting point is 00:54:05 fuck one of us. I'm out of that. It was a much nicer approach back then. I don't know why they changed but they did. This kind of humanoid, you know, people from Venus, people from Mars, those kinds of stories. Friendship kind of embodied those contact contact E early, early UFO encounters. But again, those were in the US in the 50s. This is much later in the 80s. And these, all of this group, they are around

Starting point is 00:54:38 their 30s, late 20s, mid-to-mid 30s, and they each one was named after an angel, Ariel, Gabriel, you know, these eng-theen, you know, these their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their mid 30s, and they each one was named after an angel, Ariel, Gabriel, you know, these angelic Catholic names, which if you think about the Nazi rat lines, the Vatican was one of the best lines to get out of South America. 100%. 100%. But again, the dates are off, right? We're talking about the 80s. And yeah, Villa Bavaria was started in the 70s and was into the 80s, but that was again, mostly a lot of really older Nazis and a lot of second generation families and things. The friendship group doesn't have that range. There's no old people, there's no children, they're all in that middle line, which could just be a eugenics thing. You never know Nazis. Yeah, sounds like some children of the corn shit, right? Right? It's very bizarre. And each one was a specialist in a specific science. You know, they had a medical doctor,

Starting point is 00:55:40 they had a chemist, they had a geologist, and supposedly they were mining these minerals platinum and gold from under an island somewhere in Patagonia. And they would always trade with people with these, you know, platinum coins and gold chips. And on one instance, they gave a woman, after they accidentally destroyed her boat. They gave her a suitcase full of counterfeit cash, but when she took the counterfeit cash to the banks in Santiago, they were like, no, it's good, our machine says it's fine, you can use it. And she's like, it all has the same serial number. How can it be fine? And they're like, the machine says it's okay? It's okay. the machine says it's okay. It's the machine. The machine. The machine says. The machine says. The machine says. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's thi. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. It's the machine. It's the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine. the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says, the machine says,'re like, okay, take it all. There we go. There we all. She was smart. She immediately bought jewelry. She turned it all into jewelry. And so it was she went and you know get fucked with

Starting point is 00:56:35 trying to get it exchanged or anything. So she got it, you know, her money's worth. And in addition to that counterfeit cash, they gave her these lumps of platinum, which she ended up turning into jewelry and she got it tested later on and it was pure platinum. Wow. And so others had even stranger interactions. A few people have been invited to their island. One was Ernesto de la Fuente. And he had this lung ailment, and it was documented. There's some debate as whether it was a tumor or like some other like kind of mass inside of his lungs. You know, there's this argument about the exact medical aspects of it. But he did have some kind of lung issue. And after he visited this island, it was perfectly it was gone it was miraculously vanished.

Starting point is 00:57:28 And again this guy claimed a lot of weird shit he didn't really remember anything though like a typical alien abduction encounter and then he went through some hypnosis and he remembered some stuff and then as the years went on the story got crazier and whacier, which again happens with a lot of these UFO accounters not on the order. Is it that they end up remembering more or are they just like bored of the story so they just like, you want me to tell it again? Fine, I'm gonna tell this one. That's the internal question, you know, some people say they make it up for money. But, th. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. the story. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. So, their. So, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. th. It's th. It's th. It's their. It happens. It's their. It's th. It's th internal question, you know, some people say they make it up for money, but Ernesto de la Fuente, he always was talking about a book that would come out, but to my knowledge it never came out.

Starting point is 00:58:12 You know, no one who goes through this really ends up making a bunch of money. They might get into the local news for like a couple days. But that's pretty much, you know, the end of it. As for the hypnosisosis, th, th, it th, it th, it th, it th, it th, it th, it th also thi, it thus thus thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the for the hypnosis thing, I don't know. For me, it always hurts the story once you add the hypnosis because we've got proven evidence. Other investigators have done experiments where they take a person who doesn't believe in alien abductions, hypnotize them and, you know, do like a mock alien abduction while they're hypnotized, and they wake up and they believe in alien abduction so the human mind is definitely malleable I can imagine your abduction story

Starting point is 00:58:56 treating it like stand-up which everyone gets the best reactions how you keep using it yeah yeah yeah it comes some super crazy it's like every and that's how hypnosis works. It's like a dialogue between you, like you have to be willing to, you know, accept the hypnotism. So yeah, it definitely tarnishes a story. Ernesto de la Fuente, I mean, it tarnishes the credibility, let me say that, because the story is fucking great. Because he was talking about psychic dolphins that would like patrol the island and like, you know, keep on guard. And yeah, Russia's using trained dolphins now too, so it's kind of fucking weird that he called that back in the 80s.

Starting point is 00:59:40 That Russians are using psychic dolphins right now. No, they use dolphins. Not psychic. regular dolphins. Or like, you know, submarine shit bombs, submarine bombs, they'll go and poke it to see if it's a bomb, but they'll let the dolphin die instead of, yeah, mines, there we go. So the dolphin hits the mine and dies? No, I don't, it's like, they got like lasers and cameras. I don't know, shit, they're like trained to do things. I don't know. I read that, potentially they could be used to like kill divers who are trying to sabotage. Yeah, yeah, I heard about it.

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Starting point is 01:00:56 Russia's military is usually trained dolphins to defend a critical naval base off Crimea. No, that's timely. Submarine analyst H.I. Sutton wrote this week for the online news and analysis outlet, which is editorial, who cares about this? Satellite imagery from Maxar Technology shows two dolphin pens at the entrance to the harbor there in Crimea, Russian Navy's most significant naval base in the Black Sea. So I guess, yeah, I guess it's what I'm trying to figure out what the patrol dolphins. Yeah, this Chilean alien contact e-dued said this is the same kind of system they were using to patrol the friendship island. It's exactly what you say here. Dolphins would be ideal for killing human divers,

Starting point is 01:01:45 fast, clever, and powerful. There is no evidence that they have done or a train to do so, but it's probable this says. That is crazy, bro. They've taken loving dolphins. Yeah, how fucked would you be? You're like, in the water at night doing this fucking secret mission on a swim up. The fucking dolphin comes out with the water and just under the thief grabs you and pulls you down, you're fucks.

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Starting point is 01:02:31 They rape each other. Yeah, they rape, they'll rape like females that like when you go pet them and shit. Women? There was a story to that. They'll takeakes human ass. We already talked about it. Everybody wants women ass. Lady. There was a story a couple weeks ago about two pink river dolphins in the Amazon and they were playing with this dead. They were playing with this dead snake and they were like rubbing their dicks against each other and the snake and like the super weird like sexual play thing.

Starting point is 01:03:03 It was super bizarre and some guy caught it on camera. These fucking dolphins having a weird, weird gang bang. Just banging the dead snake. Just hanging the dead snake. Hold on, you just tell me that dogs are in the necrophilia. I mean, dolphins are in the necrophilia? Is that what you're saying? I think they were using the dead snake more as a sex toy. I. I I I I I I necrophilia, but yeah, some kind of thing. Like that monkey that fucks that frog, you know, I mean it's...

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Starting point is 01:04:01 from Mambibia. What? Also this dude in the Congo who, like, back in like the 50s or 40s, took this picture of what he said was like a 50-foot snake. And he was a helicopter pilot and he like tried to get lower and the snake like started getting off the ground at him so he was like, fuck that. I don't know if this. The photo is real. It's legit. It's th. It's th. It's not th. It's not th. It's not thi thiii- It's not thi- It's not thi- It's not thi- It's not thi- It's not thi- It's not thi- It's not thi-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-than't tho-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like-like, tho-like, thiol-like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-a-a-s-s-sh!h-sh-sh-sh-sh-shoca-sh. tho'-sh. tho'-s'-shoca-sh. tho'-sh. this is it. The photos real it's legit like they tested it it's not Photoshoped or anything. There's the sexy dolphins look at them.

Starting point is 01:04:31 That's it. Oh they look that sexy. Don't they? Look at that neck. That looks like a fat person. Oh yeah, Lizzo. The fresh water dolphins are kind of. their skin is kind like like like like like that looks like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like. That looks. That looks. That looks. That looks. That looks. that looks. that looks. That looks. that looks. that looks. that looks like. that looks like. That looks like. that looks like. That looks like. their. their. their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. they. looking. They're not as cool. They got chunky hot dog neck. I think it's because their skin is kind of pink like human skin. I'll fight them. Yeah, they're weird looking. Yeah, they're weird and disgusting, dude. They're making love to dead snakes.

Starting point is 01:04:55 That's so gross. So, so, you know, we've discussed this a lot in the shows like UFOs versus extraterrestrials and you have an interesting theory, you kind of alluded to it earlier and I want, you've talked about on the last show, but I want people to hear it on this show. Your B theory with these kind of interesting aircrafts that people see. Yeah, so this is definitely, again, this is my secondary thought on a lot of the UFO stuff. And this came to me completely synchronistically.

Starting point is 01:05:40 I first heard about it in Morocco, five or six years ago. I was backpacking across the country and I had like a little blog about the paranormal. I wasn't quite, you know, selling articles and stuff like I am now. But, you know, I was still, you know, on the backpacking scene, that guy who likes fucking weird paranormal shit, you know, going out to stone circles at midnight and weird shit like that. And so a friend of a friend was like, oh I got someone you need to meet, you need to talk to this guy. And so I met this this two, this older guy at a roadside cafe outside of Tangier, and he proceeded to tell me some wild stories.

Starting point is 01:06:25 The gist of which was that he was the son of a CIA agent, and he knew a bunch of intelligence people, including people who flew UFOs, and that UFOs were reverse-engineered from honeybees. That honeybees have this anti-gravity chamber in their thorax is what he said. That you know allows them to fly and that's the technology that UFOs are based on. Which of course is crazy, awesome story. I like instantly committed to memory, you know, you can't forget something like that. I met him a second time and we met at his home in a place in Tangier, like a super rich fancy neighborhood.

Starting point is 01:07:12 And like the dude I met, I had not assumed would live in a mansion, you know, kind of place. He didn't work. He never had a job according to him. And he, you know, had these assets where it kind of validated his story. Nothing like, you know, a bad, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you know, you know, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you like, you like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you never had a job according to him, and he, you know, had these assets where it kind of validated his story, nothing like, you know, a badge or no like paperwork or anything super legit, but there was some weird validation there. And, you know, years later, I wrote about that weird interaction in my book when I was

Starting point is 01:07:44 talking about Nazis and Nazi UFO technology There's the idea of the Nazi Bell this, you know secret project that we know was real We don't know what it was historians think it was a nuclear centrifuge this kind of crucial piece and making an atomic weapon Oh, is that what they were gonna use that for? I heard it was for gravitational like zero zero gravitational? Right, that's the fun conspiratorial more interesting theory is that it was an anti-gravity device. And of course a bell kind of looks like a beast thorax. And so I threw that my book and that was pretty much it. It was like three sentences like, hey one time I met a crazy guy, blah blah. So, th. So, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, th. th. the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. theat theateateate. I's theateatee. It's theeeeeeee. theee. It's the the the. It crazy guy, blah, blah, blah. So after the book comes out, like a few months later, it blows up unexpectedly. I'm on a bunch of podcasts.

Starting point is 01:08:30 And this one dude has me on. And it wasn't even a paranormal podcast. It was like a general subjects comedy show. But he read the book in that paragraph jumped out at him because, um, because he, as a kid had this friend and his dad worked for the CIA, worked for intelligence, they didn't really know what he did. All he would tell them is that he was a man in black, like the movies. So they knew it had something to do with aliens and UFOs. And when this guy was on his deathbed, the sun pressed him for more information

Starting point is 01:09:06 and he said, look at the bees. And they had always assumed that it had something to do with the boys' bees communicate or something like that until they read that paragraph in my book. And they were like, oh shit, that's probably what he meant. And so now I had two kind of crazy, you know, totally non-reliable leads, but that's too much of a coincidence. I had to look into it more. And I did find a bunch of weird scientific shit about how bees fly.

Starting point is 01:09:36 It used to be a mystery for a long time. Now they think it's a special whirlwind pattern, but there's still this thing where honeybees in particular, when they're carrying pollen, they're using less energy. They're not beating their wings as fast, they're not breathing as fast, they're like, you know, flying more efficiently. And they still don't know how that's done. I thought, okay, that's pretty weird. Then I looked into, you know, some crazy, weird conspiracy stuff. And I found the writings of a Russian entomologist, a bug guy, named Victor Gurbinikov. He lived in Siberia.

Starting point is 01:10:14 He was a professor, he taught entomology, and at the end of his life, he wrote this memoir about a bunch of weird shit, you you know insect discoveries and all this other things he had accomplished in his life and he included this chapter about this flying craft he built based off of he said it was the wing flaps of heavy flying insects and he didn't specify but he said pretty much any, like those cockroaches that can fucking fly at you with the ones. They're the worst.

Starting point is 01:10:53 You know, scare of beetles potentially would have this this wing flap feature. Bees, any of these heavy outer-shelled flying insects supposedly had this special pattern in their wing flaps, that when he stitched a bunch of them together, he made these blocks that could like defy gravity. And when he put a bunch of the blocks together, he had this little craft that was pretty much a palette,

Starting point is 01:11:21 like it looked like a scooter, essentially, that just ended in a wooden palette. And, according to him, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th, th, th, th, the the th, the, the the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theateateateateateat, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, theateateateate, the, the like a scooter, essentially, that just ended in a wooden palette. And according to him, this thing was capable of flight, but not just flight, incredible speeds, you know, totally up down, you know, impossible kind of, you know, floating essentially. And interestingly enough,

Starting point is 01:11:43 when he first flew this craft around his university town, and the papers the next day, people weren't saying, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th.. th. Oh, th. Oh, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, when he first flew this craft around his university town, and the papers the next day, people weren't saying, oh, we saw a weird flying man. They said we saw these glowing discs flying around the town. There was this whole UFO sighting. And he noted whenever he flew it, people wouldn't see a little scientist on a flying palette. They would see triangles and discs in tick-tac shapes and these classic UFO shapes glowing different colors. And the craft itself would cause all kinds of weird paranormal side effects. When he would drop something over the side, the windows in the town nearby would have these perfectly

Starting point is 01:12:26 circular kind of melted holes throughout them, which was something that happened with the Moffman case when John Keel investigated that and Point Pleasant. It's something that pops up in a lot of famous UFO paranormal cases. One incident, he dropped this vial and he actually found it fused inside of a window, like it was part of the window. And on other instances he would use this craft to fly out to his research sites and collect insect samples. And he put larva in a test tube, put it in his pocket, flew back to his lab and when he arrived, the larva was fully grown, something that would normally take weeks.

Starting point is 01:13:11 And so that, combined with the fact that there were a bunch of other UFOs around, you know, people reporting them all over the globe. He was like, someone else knows this and they're not talking about it. So I should probably stop using this for one my health because who knows what kind of weird shit's happening to me when I'm using this thing but two my you know whoever else is in on this secret is keeping it on the low and they probably wouldn't want me you know blabbing about it and so this was a super bizarre story. Victor Grabinkov's a real person.

Starting point is 01:13:49 He died in 2001, but he was a professor. He worked at a university. It's all documented. What happened to this craft, no one really knows. It could be in the hands of the Russian government. Again, if it's just a flying palat, it's probably not that useful militarily. But if the crazy dude in Morocco is to be believed, then the US has already designed these entire crafts

Starting point is 01:14:14 around that same concept. And so that's the kind of core of B theory, this idea that, again, humans are responsible. And I think that's something important with all paranormal investigations.. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, theateat, theateat, theateateateate, theateate, theat theat theat theat the the the the the the thory this idea that again humans are responsible and I think that's something important with all paranormal investigations once you throw out that possibility you're kind of in loony town you know you've got to acknowledge that humans do exist and they do a lot of weird shit and that includes secret projects and you know hidden missions and all kinds of weird shit they may shit up too.

Starting point is 01:14:46 I'd love I love Looney Town. I would like to be mayor of Luton. Right. Well, and again, back to the I'm a betting man. Statistically speaking, if you were to ask a statistician, what's theory, they they, how they would rank the theories. B theory would probably be a theory forory forory for theory for theory for theory for theory for theory for the theories. B theory would probably be A theory for that exact reason that we do know humans are weird and exist. We don't know how reality really works and

Starting point is 01:15:11 you know different dimensions and that kind of stuff is again mostly still in that sci-fi realm. If it is something as simple as bees then yeah the Nazis could have discovered that. The Egyptians could have been using those principles to levitate those blocks, make them lighter, you know, and he pushed him in the place. These things under the pallets. What were they again? So these were these boxes that he made out of wing flaps, these hard exoskeleton wing flaps.

Starting point is 01:15:47 And he initially noticed that these flaps on their own, when he put them under a microscope, they would like float for a second, and then come to rest. And so he stitched a bunch of them together until he got like almost like a chain mail kind of box of insect shells and he would tap this and it would fly up to the ceiling and kind of gingerly float down. There's supposed video of him testing this out and you can see it doing all this crazy physics.

Starting point is 01:16:19 And after that he got a bunch of the boxes and put it on this palette and supposedly when he hopped up it would float. and, you know, when it, you know, when the, that th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, he got a bunch of the boxes and put it on this palette. And supposedly when he hopped up, it would float. And when there wasn't a ceiling for it to hit, it would kind of like, you know, depend on the weight and how he leaned it and the pressures he put, he could, you know, fly this craft. Damn, dude. Yeah, it's a weird story. It's a crazy story, but I love it, dude.. It. It. It. It. It. It, it. It, it. It, it. It's. It's, to. It's, to. It's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. It's th. It, th. It, th, th. It, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. theeop, the. to. to. theope. to. to. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, the. And, it's a weird story. It's a crazy story, but I love it, dude.

Starting point is 01:16:48 Sounds like a like that. I actually had a whole plan to go to Siberia. I wrote half a book about the subject. Looking into all kinds of, you know, poltergeists and other stuff in that area. Because those were other side effects of the craft. And that was the thing that really stuck out to me to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, the th, th, th, the th, the th, th, th, the th, th, the th, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. It, but I th. It, but I th. It, but I, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th area, because those were other side effects of the craft. And that was the thing that really stuck out to me is because the side effects of the craft he described

Starting point is 01:17:12 was the exact same list of things that I wrote when I was comparing psychedelic phenomenon to paranormal phenomenon. And he, you know, is this bug scientist who just happened. Even if he's making up the story, he just made up this, he matched, is this bug scientist who just happened, even if he's making up the story, he just made up this, he matched this list that is decades of research. So if he's making up this story, he's really in the know on, you know,

Starting point is 01:17:34 UFOlogy and the side effects of these crafts and what people see and shit. Like if it's a fraud, he's super dedicated to it. hats off. And yeah, so here, there we go. There's some of that video footage of the supposed research here. Whoa. And that's of a wing? So it would be the, so you know how how like the cockroaches, to use that example, they have that like chunky part on top of the wings? Yeah. And then

Starting point is 01:18:13 they lift that up and the wings flap, you know, under it, behind it, that chunky, you know, chip like a wing flap, that supposed to be... Now I have seen if things are very light they can be affected by the heat of the air around them right like the the air current you know what I'm saying like I've seen people do this with paper and stuff but you if I want to see the one you're talking about with the you know where he stitches a bunch together. Yeah so we don't have examples of him physically stitching them together we have these examples of him testing them out with the individual flaps and

Starting point is 01:18:53 then there's some videos of him testing out the boxes which I think might be there towards the end okay wow yeah that that portion there so this is one of the boxes supposedly. Supposedly filled with those insect bits. What? What? That looked like some fucking Harry Potter shit. Yeah. And so again, it's bad video.

Starting point is 01:19:19 It almost looks like it's pulled up with a string. It's not that convincing. Like it's definitely not the smoking gun. I wish it was. But you know, he's a poor Siberian bug scientist. So this is what they got. I love that. We do know he was real.

Starting point is 01:19:39 And so his son was in contact with researcher who was running a website called KeeleyNet. And Gherbinochov died in 2001, but his son was helping translate and shared this material with this other researcher. And unfortunately, the guy who ran that website, he was deep into all kinds of alternate technology, like Oregon energy and all kinds of, you know, using water as gasoline replacements, all kinds of technology like organ energy and all kinds of you know using water as gasoline replacements all kinds of alternate tech he was deep in that stuff and towards the end of his life he was into this Griminoff stuff and unfortunately he died and the whole thing is kind of just vanished.

Starting point is 01:20:20 Well that's the shit the government wants happening you to die and disappear. Yeah you know I have no information on how this guy got got. But if I get got, it's probably because I've been saying this B-ship. Oh my. And the thumbnail, I couldn't find this in the video, but the thumbnail is actually, you know, showing them levitating? Yeah, so that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. Yeah. that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. Yeah. Yeah. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. that's. I. I. I. that's that's that's th famous picture. There are no, as far as I've seen, there's a couple videos out there of like a Russian, sign, Russian soldier in this like, it looks similar to that except it has like walls around it. It's like almost like a flying chariot.

Starting point is 01:20:56 And people say that's the craft, but that's actually from a, like that's a helicopter kind of device. Like it's a video from a totally different thing. They attribute it to, you know, this Gurbinikov tech. But then of course someone always comes along and says, actually it's from that. And that's how you know, the whole thing's fake.

Starting point is 01:21:16 So it does. It does seem like it's been, they've interjected some bits to make it seem, you know, less than believable. But again, you know, the video is not solid-proof. The story is crazy. My two sources are, one, a shadowy dude from Morocco, and two, a dead guy who was a friend of a friend of his dad. So I'm not saying I'm 100% in on this being truth, but it's certainly interesting. And it's certainly something that's worth considering when you think about these subjects. It is so crazy. I like the world is just so much more interesting. Well, Chaz, you know, do you want to get into psychedelics and the paranormal real quick?

Starting point is 01:22:03 And if you got any stories about that? Or did we talk about that earlier? because I think, I think, I think... think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I this, I this, I this, I this, I this, I this. this, I this, I this, I this, I this, I this, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, think, this, this, think, think, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, think, this, think, think, think, think, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, think, this is, this is, this is, this is, th is think, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, quick and if you got any stories about that or did we talk about that earlier? Because I think, I think, yeah, well, I mean, I always want to get in the psychedelics because yeah, back when I was doing those weegee board experiments and stuff, definitely doing it too often. There can be nothing to do that. Why would you do that? Dude, come over. We're gonna do some shrooms and fuck with the weegee. I'd be like, nope, Ah, busy, gotta do my hair tonight. Gotta stay home. It's like, fuck around and find out. That's all I hear that. Fuck around, you find out. Tell me what you found out.

Starting point is 01:22:34 I'll be at home, dude. Don't even want to get near that shit. You want to fucking play the weggi today while while No. Like, can you make it any worse, dude? No way. I don't fuck with Weegee at all, dog. Yeah, so it's one of those things. And I actually think the Weegee Board's a good example of of how the paranormal interacts with us. And you know, when you, there's definitely some like creepy ass, legitagy shit out there where people have weird experiences. I know someone who, you know, was using a board one night, you know, when

Starting point is 01:23:11 they were younger. They thought it was, they were maybe up there for an hour and they like came downstairs and it was sun up like they lost all this time. Which again is something that shows up in UFO cases and shit too. And under psychedelics. That's one of the similarities, that missing time. Because I've done that while tripping. I've stared at the wall and thought I was doing it for like two minutes. I like looked down it. It's been three hours.

Starting point is 01:23:39 Time travel, bro. It happens. And it happens the other way too, right? You can be doing something that you think is taking forever but really it took you like two seconds to cook that hot pocket. You know what I mean? You thought you were on the longest trip. Do you guys eat while you're doing shrooms? No, I don't. I just fart and think I ship my pants. That's all I do the whole time. The trick is making the tea. Without the like pieces of mushroom, you strain them out, you're less queasy, I find.

Starting point is 01:24:14 But yeah, missing time. And then you have, of course, the viewing of strange worlds, right? People who get abducted by aliens will see these weird impossible landscapes, you know, crazy creatures and things like that. Someone who takes too much psychedelics or strong enough psychedelics sees the exact same thing, right? You know, we talk all the time about DMT realms and things like that. And most of these, you know, UFO experiences where people see different worlds, it really just sounds like a person describing the first trip, like when they take a really heavy dose of something. That is true. Right? It has this definite similarity. But I don't want

Starting point is 01:25:00 it to be confused that, you know, I'm saying it's the phenomenon's purely psychedelic. It's all happening in your head because that's clearly not true. The reason it's paranormal is because it has a physical effect on our reality, right? We in ghost cases we have doors that slam them on themselves, glasses that shatter across the window. In extreme cases, poltergeise cases, you have, you know, voices screaming, you have information appearing, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, th, th is thi, th is th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theeeeeea, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii's thiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, In extreme cases, poltergeist cases, you have, you know, voices screaming. You have information appearing, right? These entities know things where treasures buried, you know, local gossip, there's these information that comes through. But you also have definite physical things, where aliens you've got, you know, the anal probing. Barney Hill, one of the famous cases of abduction, one of the first cases of abduction.

Starting point is 01:25:53 He had a thing attached to his junk and afterwards he had a ring of pimples around where it was suction. What? Oh my god. Oh my god. It's disgusting. Yeah, it's pretty rough. They should wash that off, those aliens. You think they've mastered space travel but they don't know about hygiene. And you know, again, some fishy details. Like that cow mutilation, that shit's crazy.

Starting point is 01:26:20 Some of it looks like high-tech cow, mutilations. Cal mutilations is definitely one of the weirdestest aspects of th. th. th. th. thii. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they should thi, th- they should they should they should they should, they should, they should, they should, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, th. They thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they's they's they's they, it's they, it's they, mutilation is definitely one of the weirdest aspects of the phenomenon. You know, it's, you know, usually in association with these craft, but oftentimes also associated with different monsters. You know, through Latin America, you have the Chubacabra, who's said to suck the blood out of goats, leave these, you know, perfectly drilled holes in them. And Namibia, you have this flying snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the snake, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, the weirdest, you the weirdest, you the weirdest, you the weirdest, you to to to to to to to to to suck the blood out of goats, leave these perfectly drilled holes in them. And Namibia, you have this flying snake, this nine to 20 foot snake. Oh my God. Farmers say flies down the hills.

Starting point is 01:26:54 It's got smoke coming out of its ears and it drains the blood out of these animals. It leaves soot. It leaves this brown, this dust, which again, it's super similar to UFOs. It's the same thing th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the thiol-sock. the the the the the thiolk. the the the blood the blood. the blood. the blood. their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their. their their. I. I. I. I. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's th. I's th. I's the. I's the. I's the. I's the. the. thea. thea. too. tooea. tooea. tooea. tooea. tooea. tooea. tooea. thea. thea. th super similar to UFOs it's the same thing as a farmer in Utah describing well it's not the same thing right the farmer in Utah describes a metallic disc but the results the same the animals bled dry and there's this strange you know burnt material around the body there's this but doesn't this sound like right doesn't it sound sound like, right?

Starting point is 01:27:25 Doesn't it sound like, if you were a farmer in South America who had never seen modern technology metals and things like that, how you might describe it? It's like the cargo cults, you know, in the islands? It's a very similar, do you know about this? Cargo cults? It's, it's...these British cargo planes would land in these islands, and I think like Southeast Asia maybe, populated by tribes who had never had any contact with outside civilization before. And religions sprouted up around these planes that would land there, around like whatever the king of England was.

Starting point is 01:28:00 Yeah, like the royals at the time, and they like worshiped them now. That's crazy. Or like cargo planes, or like the cargo planes where they were like, like the Royals at the time and they like worship them now. Yeah, that's crazy. Or like cargo, or like the cargo planes where they accidentally drop food and they don't know who it's coming from, they just think it's a god. That's literally a movie. The gods have, God's got, the gods got, the gods got crazy. It's why the movie is based on, it's why the movie the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie is, the movie, the movie is, it, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the movie, the yeah, they'll start dancing and shit for that. Yeah, look at that. Like, see how they build this, uh... They're reconstructed.

Starting point is 01:28:31 That is so crazy, bro. That is so crazy. It's like, they're cross. It's pretty accurate. Like, if you look at it, all it's missing is attention. That looks like the best fucking... Well it makes you wonder what the people who created the modern religion saw back in the day.

Starting point is 01:28:51 Oh yeah, for sure. I mean dragons and all that stuff? Like what if dinosaurs are actually just dragons. Well that's what's so shocking about the. They got glasses. Say that again. That's what's so weird about the Namibian snake blood-sucking one is that it has this supposedly this bright light. And so from a distance it looks just like a bright orb, like a bright sphere. And this is something that's really popped up in a lot of the paranormal is that these things look like spheres until you get close enough to see them. And then they look like whatever the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck the fuck. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There's the fuck. There's the f. There's the f. There's the f. There's the f. That's the the the the the their. the the the the the the th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. It's so thea. It's neneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneneum. theynambuibubia. th. th. th. th. th. their. lot of the paranormal is that these things look like spheres until you get close enough to see them. And then they look like whatever the fuck.

Starting point is 01:29:28 There's were wolf fucking creatures. They've got Bigfoot, you've got reporters coming out of a sphere. You've got these snakes coming out of these spheres or morphing into these. And it's it really is. It's beyond just, you know, cultural belief. And in Namibia specifically, they did this wild scientific study where they got these Kalahari Bushmen, these people from the, these like remote desert regions to do this test where they were

Starting point is 01:30:01 trying to find colors. And so they were like eight green spheres, green circles, and one blue circle. And they couldn't differentiate between the eight green and the one blue. But they showed them eight, nine green circles where one of them is just a slight shade different. To you and I, we can't tell it, like I can't pick it out for the fucking life of me. They can pick it instantly. It's like the same as us picking the blue one out. And again, our vision, our concept of shit is entirely different. And this goes back to ancient history. You know, in all the Greek epics and stories, there's never once the mention of the color blue.

Starting point is 01:30:48 What? In Odysseus' in the Odyssey, they describe the ocean as wine colored. They never, it's never called blue. There's never any triology of blue. What's the logic behind that? There's like a linguist argument to it, which is super in-depth and super boring. I love that kind of shit.

Starting point is 01:31:13 I think language is really interesting. I'll listen to it. Tell me what you think. Well, I'm not even qualified to get into, well, if you go to... Do you know the show you're on? Nobody's qualified. We just say shit. Well, it gets into like ancient language terminology for a color that was similar and it kind of sounds like blue. It's a whole different thing.

Starting point is 01:31:33 But there's the other school of thought that the color blue didn't exist until it did until it became a concept until someone first labeled that as blue and then we could all see blue as a different color. And for these populations of people who haven't had the same exposures and educations and you know, pressed in confirmation of what confirmed reality is, they physically see shit differently, down to colors. And so once we understand how the fuck that happens, I think we'll be able to be a concept, I think we'll be able to be a concept. I thi, I, I, I the concept, I th, I th, I th, I th. I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I the, I the, I the, I the, I thin. And, I th, I th, I th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, shit differently, down to colors. And so once we understand how the fuck that happens,

Starting point is 01:32:09 I think we'll be a lot further to understanding what the fuck a UFO and a big foot is. I agree with all this man, and like we talk about it on a show. I know when people hear that they're probably like, okay, what are you going to say that you said a thousand times? But, but it's like when we look into, and when we look into modern science, right, the argument between germ theory and train theory, and let's just say, I know Johnny's not into it, but if you, if you train somebody, you know, a virus versus exosomes, right? You train somebody, you tell them it's a virus, that's what they see it as a virus. Well, I think the terrain theory, I believe, is what that last lady we had on,

Starting point is 01:32:53 talked about, you know, where she believes in viruses, but she believes in treating the whole organism. Yeah, and that's, like I calls herself a terrain theorist right right right but my whole point is is like if you if you aren't shown something can you see it if you know if you're if you're taught all at all of science was right I mean there was a time when nobody knew shit and they just yeah figured it out I I think I'm not I'm not again paranormal I'm not qualified to talk on any virus stuff, so I won't. But I read a really good book that kind of gets into all of these issues and concepts. From that kind of logical linguist standpoint, and that it's Dr. Raymond Moody's the theory of nonsense, I think it is.

Starting point is 01:33:42 And Raymond Moody's famous for coining the term near-death experience. Like he's deep into the research on consciousness and you know, its existence afterwards and close to the moment of death. And, but this book is purely about our linguistics and how it shapes our reality and specifically when it comes to how we use nonsense, right? And it first starts with trying to shift off that negative connotation to nonsense.

Starting point is 01:34:17 Because you know, people dismiss that as, oh, that's nonsense. And now every time I hear that, I'm like, that person doesn't have a good argument is what that means. Because nonsense, by its very nature, is not true or fake, right? It means nothing, it's meaningless. It's nonsense. And the reality is we use nonsense to fill in the areas of shit we don't understand. And that comes to religion, right? A lot of religion is literal nonsense, right?

Starting point is 01:34:45 Obviously not all the animals in the world can fit on an arc, right? But the universe probably wasn't made in seven days, you know, like those statements are are nonsensical. But we use the same kind of nonsense as fillers in science, right? The big bang theory. There was nothing and then it exploded into everything. That statement is nonsense. It doesn't mean anything. There's no logical, you can't derive logical meaning from it. Would a theory be considered nonsense? What's that? Would a theory be considered nonsense? Well, it depends. And so that's why the books are really valuable read is because it gets into how to qualify nonsense and there's like like I think 20 different Types of nonsense and it gets into you know deliberate nonsense and then you know nonsense used for negative reasons and then, you know, nonsense used for positive reasons. to the today. you know, nonsense used for positive reasons.

Starting point is 01:35:42 Most of our children's books and things right? That's nonsense, Dr. Seuss and shit, and it makes us feel good. And again, when we go to church, you listen to some stuff, it makes it feel good. And so it is valuable. And it's kind of about reshaping the idea of, you know, things can be true and false, and things can be false, and then things can also be not,

Starting point is 01:36:06 there's this third factor that can be nonsense, which doesn't mean anything now, but it has the potential to become truth, right? That's what chemistry was. It was alchemy. It was made up words tied to these substances that these dudes would say to themselves aloud because they thought it had magical properties to say them while they were mixing chemicals in their castle dungeons and getting high.

Starting point is 01:36:30 That nonsense has morphed into the thing that has given us, you know, plastic and nuclear bombs. And so it turned from nonsense into reality. And so again, a lot of people will look at paranormal phenomenon as one of these, you know, things of nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's to be dismissed. It actually means it's something worthwhile, worth investigating, because it has the potential to be true. If you can make it mean something, then you can know if it's true or false. I think it, so nonsense is means it doesn't necessarily mean anything. Is that what we're talking about?

Starting point is 01:37:14 Right, you can't you can't get meaningful information from a piece of nonsense, right? Again, I hate to harken on it, but the Big Bang is the perfect example, because it is accepted science. It's science, but the statement, everything blew up, nothing blew up into everything. It's not saying a peach is apple. Like that, that doesn't, that's not a meaningful piece of information. Or the hair, 12, 6, hair 12 6 5 2 o'clock on it on a melon drop nonsense that doesn't mean any it's the same Alice in Wonderland shit it's interesting it makes our mind it activates our mind in a

Starting point is 01:37:56 weird way but it creates you know meditative states and things like that but it's not it's not true or false. It doesn't answer the question. It doesn't answer a question, right? Right? Right. It doesn't, it doesn't provide anything meaningful. It has an effect, but it doesn't provide anything meaningful. And again, a lot of paranormal phenomenon falls into that category. It has an effect. Sometimes it is meaningful, right? Sometimes it fucking kills a cow. But a lot of the time, the majority of the time, it's meaningless. When you see these people, these preachers who talk to God

Starting point is 01:38:34 and they have these Doomsday predictions, and they never come, right? They're like, oh, whoops, we got the date wrong, next time. Interesting, dude. There's a chance these these these these these these these these these these these these these these these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people these people wrong next time. Interesting, dude. It's super- There's a chance these people are really communicating with paranormal information. They might be getting the information from somewhere, you know, beyond. They might be pulling that out of their ass,

Starting point is 01:38:55 but they might be in touch with something, but the majority of the time, paranormal information is nonsense. It's not useful. It's not real or tangible. Sometimes it is. And so that's the difficulty of paranormal investigating. That's the real truth of it, is trying to find the pieces of nonsense that we can confirm

Starting point is 01:39:19 into something real, into something tangible. So because, non-sense is something that you, that has an effect but with no evidence, let's say. There's no actual evidence of it, but it does have an effect. And it is nonsense until evidence shows up to prove it as factual. Is that what we're talking about? Pretty much, right. And again, the, check out the book. I'm going on a great length to plug that book. that, that, that, to to that to to to that to to to the the to the the to the fact, but, but, but the fact, but the fact, but the fact, the fact, but the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact the fact, the fact, the fact, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th..... the, the, the, the. the. the. theateathea, theateathea, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that the. the. that th we're talking about? Pretty much, right. And again, check out the book. I'm going to great lengths to plug that book. What's it called? Dr. Raymond Moody, how about some

Starting point is 01:39:52 love coming back the other way? What's the name of the book again? Check it out because it is, it's such a valuable, like it to rework the way you think about, you know, not just concepts like religion, science, and the paranormal, but you'll start seeing it in everyday shit and you'll just be able to pick up like, oh, that guy just doesn't know what they're talking about. Like, they're thinking about it from a dogmatic point of view, and they don't even realize it, because, you know, people will take nonsense and accept

Starting point is 01:40:26 it as fact without knowing if it is. And because it's easy, it's comfortable. Yeah, I think we all do it to make a sense of nonsense. I like that dude. Well, yeah, check it out. All of his stuff's good again. Not even that long. Consciousness and a paragraph. No, no, no, it's a 30, and the other one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one that that that that that th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, that's a. that's a. that's a. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's a. that's a. that's a. that's consciousness and... It's a paragraph.

Starting point is 01:40:45 No, no, no, it's a 30. And the other one, it said 35 pages. That's a preview. Oh. Hey, dude, I'm down with a 35 page book. It's a little while. I think it's about 200 pages. I've got a copy around here somewhere.

Starting point is 01:40:59 There's not wrong with that. Chans. Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,az! Yeah, no, it's definitely valuable thought exercises. I think, you know, because it is. It's an indeniable fact of our reality is that we exist with nonsensical shit every single day. And we kind of just accept it and roll with it. And, you know know suddenly when certain

Starting point is 01:41:26 ideas are maybe challenging or difficult people like oh well it's it's just nonsense. And they say that in one breath while believing a specific variety of nonsense and the other. You know you've got atheists who hate Christians but both of them are subscribing to their own brand of things. Nonsense. And again, that's not to be dismissive and say those beliefs aren't valid or useful. Again, evidence is quite to the contrary.

Starting point is 01:41:56 Nonsense has a very physical effect on our brain. We, again, use it to start teaching our children language. You know, sounds. Dr. Seuss, Lewis, Lewis, Lewis, Lewis, the, the, their, their, their, their, English, English, their, English, English, ths, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thioli, thinks, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thioli, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thinks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, toaaugh, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, th to start teaching our children language. You know, sounds and Dr. Seuss, Lewis Carroll, these famous English writers write nonsense. And for whatever reason, it feels good. It's kind of like trying to make, trying to pick the story out of, you know, fake words and impossible scenarios. It's like solving a puzzle and it's really good for people.

Starting point is 01:42:28 It's beneficial. And again, religions kind of monetize that concept in a lot of places. They understand this and they, you get your weird buzz, your weird nonsense buzz and confirmation and you feel good. But again, it can have that negative effect too, going back to that Weegee Board shit, where if you look at the evidence of the creepy Weege Board cases, it's almost always like Catholic schoolgirls in Latin America. And that's because that's the demographic that believes that shit the most, right? They're full-end.

Starting point is 01:43:07 The more you believe it, the more it's all, the more you invite it in. And you know, they've done experiments, I'm not technically if it's an experiment, but they've taken these Wigi boards and put, like, say, it's something similar to like a stack of coins underneath them. So would know then if it was moved by some spirit it would slide from the bottom and the stack of you know the stack of thing you know and if it was moved by hands you know if it was people intentionally do it then they would they would slide they would shift like that and it's always the hand it's like people moving it with their minds you get I'm saying? So, either, it's not that or it's the mind is somehow possessed, which is even scary. But it's like very interesting because the more you believe in something, the more you let

Starting point is 01:43:52 it in, which to me is like trolls, right, on the internet, right? When you, when you don't block them, they, you, and you interact with them the more power they get they come back but wait all you interact with comes back yeah so it depends on how you interact with them though right because if you just give that like I I used to my thing was just I'd follow people and then they be like oh they dude I actually like you know and then it'd be over so you know I get that but I mean I'm just at a place where they're just saying nasty shit. There's some ruthless. And I just block them and it's like, oh, they just all go away. And they live on subreddits where they love being blocked too though.

Starting point is 01:44:32 I mean they all screen capture it and like, hey, Sam, block me. Yeah, well, enjoy that. Put it on your fucking wall where your participation t. Well, it's wild you say that because there's a very popular theory, the trickster theory out there. The trickster and the paranormal was, I know I forget who written, wrote it, but it's a good book, kind of gets into this theory that, you know, Passport to Magonia, Jacques Valde, also wrote on this the same, good book on the same concept, that paranormal phenomenons are the same trickster entity wearing different masks. And its main goal, it seems to be is to fuck with you. That really does seem... One... Listen, it's like Ari Shafir.

Starting point is 01:45:21 Everything, like, I'm in this place right now where I'm like, if I cut off paying attention anything on the news, and I just live my life, it is amazing how none of this stuff affects me like, if I don't get emotionally involved in food shortages, the today's the toobey Shorges, monkey pock shit, and I just don't put it any energy into it occasionally I like to drop some heckler bombs on Twitter just because that's just my nature but I don't emotionally run out like, oh my god, you know and I'm not going nuts to this craziness I see on the screen. I've been doing this for a couple months and I've yet to feel a blowback from it. You know what I think it's been, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy energy energy energy energy energy, and the energy energy energy, any energy, any energy energy, any energy energy energy, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to the energy energy energy, and to to the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and the energy, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy energy energy energy, the energy, the energy, the energy, the energy energy energy, the energy, the energy, the energy energy, the screen. I've been doing this for a couple months and I've yet to feel blowback from it. You know what I think it's been?

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Starting point is 01:47:52 Creep are gonna creep, bro. It happens. You wanna catch out with some girl from high school, but you don't want her to know you're catching on with her, you know? Yeah, I mean like, no, the girls my age at my school, like you don't creep on them. You're like, your kids are gorgeous. Congratulations, that's all you're doing with girls from my class. What about, what, uh, crazy? She's got a crazy, starts her to see, what, the one hot chick you were telling me. Yeah, Carissa? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, well. Yeah, well. Yeah, well. Well, I don, I don, I don, I don, well. Yeah, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, well, I, I, I, well, I, well, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that's. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that. Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all, that's all. That's, Chaz, great episode, man.

Starting point is 01:48:26 It was a fun roller coaster of chaos. I loved it. It was a great episode. You killed it. Thank you so much. One more time, Chaz, where can they find you? Oh yeah, thanks for having me on. You can find all my stuff at Chaz of the Dead.

Starting point is 01:48:42 I'm on all the social media's at Chaz of the dead.com. I'm on all the social media's at chas of the dead. Yep, check all that stuff out. Stay up to date with my articles. You can find my book, Patrion, all that kind of stuff where I write about weird stories. If you like the stuff you heard today, go check out the book. That's paranormal expeditions, hunt for the friendship. It's a story of psychedelics, Nazis, and an expedition

Starting point is 01:49:05 to the edge of the world. So check it out. Once again, send me all your links again and I know you asked me about Rockfin. I guess I didn't follow up on that. You still interested? Yeah, absolutely. All right, I'll make that happen. Sorry about that. I just got super busy but we'll make that happen. And I got to get you on the Union of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the edge of ex-exxxx. the the the the the the edge of ex-ex. the the the the edge of ex-ex. the the the ex. to busy, but we'll make that happen. And I gotta get you on the Union of the Unwanted as well. We do a lot of UFOs and it's my panel show with a couple buddies of mine and it's like, every time we do it's the best conversation on the internet. It's just such a wonderful conversation.

Starting point is 01:49:40 So it's always fun. Chash, you killed it, man. Thank you so much. I am in Jacksonville. I think on the June 16th or 17th. If you got a girl, you want to bring a guest, I'll gladly put you on the list. Yeah, definitely. I mean, my girlfriend would love to come see you.

Starting point is 01:49:56 All right. Chas, thanks so much guys. Michigan Daddy's coming Holland and Grand Rapids come get weird buy your tickets now and man I hope you guys enjoy it this has been a great week of I think every show's had some fucking fire in it and it's been a lot of fun so I hope you guys are enjoying this you know we were just talking the other day about how like Timfall Hats still in the top 100 on Apple podcast shows which shows more and more people are Hats still in the top 100 on Apple podcast shows which shows more and more people are subscribing that's the only way you stay up there so thank you so much for that spread the word telling everybody

Starting point is 01:50:33 we love you we try to put out the best episodes we can with the most interesting people today's episode's one of those so I hope you you guys enjoy it and we try to take your suggestions to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their the to to to the to to the to to to the to to to to to to the to to the the to to the the the the to to to to to to the the to to the the to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie. I I I I I I I I tode. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. today. today. try. today. today. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. try to take your suggestions to get people on so thank you for everything and I hope to see in Michigan and then next week in Ohio. Take care everybody. We go deep home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional...

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