Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #581: Cut, Burn, Poison with Dr. Andrew Kaufman

Episode Date: June 23, 2022

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Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Good morning's warm. And ready to get your mind blown? Good! Morning Swarm! And welcome to Timfall Hat, you know what I am?

You know I'm here to do? I'm here too. Rock! Join me as always, Xavier Greero and Jay-Nice Johnny. Johnny! Johnny! This is a heavy Johnny show today. Well, I want to apologize. Sam likes to make why do you want to apologize devil's advocate so I just want to make yeah but people are gonna

be like oh Johnny he doesn't believe me he's skeptical no Johnny what a I have a retard I just want to be clear that I don't believe half of the shit you're the smarter one I'm so so open don't say that Johnny okay don't say you don't believe have to shoot well no no no on this show today half of the things I said where I'm like espousing the viral you're asking real questions that I think and he liked it Dr. Andrew Coppin enjoyed you know how it is though it seems like you're being antagonistic I don't want people to think sometimes on this show because of the style that I do that I've made the show is where it's like

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There's nothing wrong with that don't yell at me is what I'm trying to say just be nice Yeah, we got enough shit. Okay, so guys, you know real quick. I want to say thank you to everyone came out to the first ever Assassins only leave your bitch. to their assasthere yeah yeah but the line so they know that they got a buy tickets like yeah yeah so it was uh Kurt Metzger annihilated Jimmy door Eddie Bravo my boy Jason Ellis Zane who opens for me and uh Brent Biltcomb you've seen him oh. Yeah, so it was a great lineup It was love I do of course and me closing it out thinking I could just do some new jokes when everyone was just Killing it's like that's a lineup for ten fucking dollars. Yeah, I know

10 bucks really wow because I I just want a room where people come and hang out and have a good time and put all these fucking dudes, like everyone was going off on some great shit. It was like, it was definitely the most anti-Hollywood show I've ever done. That's what you want. We need one that's like, Craig's List Hitman only, you know, where it's just like open micers can go up because that's what I want. No, but I was thinking about like I should have given you guys spots at the end. No, no, I make- Not assassins only. I mean, that's- Oh, at the end, like, once the shows over,

he did, at the comedy store, I need to do less bangers and more people at the end, and I have to not put myself at the end, where it's like, it's just- Because you're like a sacriificial lamb. I get a huge applause walking up, but everyone's tired. Oh, that's it. And you know what else I have to do is I have to focus on what I want to talk? I can't just go up there and rip when everybody's bringing heat. Yeah, because they're coming in high. I mean, I'm a crusher, brood. Make no mistakes about it.

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Come get weird, okay, Coast of Mesa on the 22nd. Then fast forward to July 15th and 16th, I am at- The 22nd? No, I, the 30th, I am in the 30th, I'm in July 15th and 16th. I am in Morris Plains at the dojo of comedy. And then on the July 20th, okay, is the next comedy chaos. Grab your tickets now, putting together a murder lineup for that one. And then August 5th, 6th, I am at Cobbs in San Francisco.

Now, I'm getting a lot of things. They are doing, they're saying you got to have vaccination and stuff. I am talking them about. What you have to understand is what they have to legally put up and what is actually going on there are always two different things. I guarantee you they're not checking for your cards. I will, I will make sure that that's not happening and if it's not I'm going to try to cancel. If I cancel I'll probably lose my agency but we're going to see what we could do

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Broken Sim is Fire, okay? I just walk around the country looking for danger. That's why I do, and I talked to you about it. We got into so much shit this week. You have a gay pride conspiracy theory that we went into about those guys that were busted by the FBI. Okay can we get shit about that? No no no we got into the overweight yogi that's now the Gatorade fitness model quote unquote, some viral video video to and we saw an actual glitch in the Matrix. Video proof. Yeah, it's crazy. All right guys, please, and this is a great show, it's with Dr. Andrew Coffin and We Go Deep, Homeboy, enjoy. Hey guys, today's episode is brought to you by Athletic Greens. I take athletic greens every

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I'm like, well, that's who I need to talk to. The more dangerous the conversation, the better. I'm very excited to talk to. The more dangerous the conversation the better. I'm very excited to talk to have this next guest on. We connected at Float Fest. It was a great time. He watched our comedy show and after that he decided to still be our friend. So that's a sign of a good sense. So I'm very excited to have him on. He has a film called Train the Film I am subscribed to it very, very thankfi. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's, very, very, very, very, to to to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have. I, to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to have thi. He has a film called Train the Film. I am subscribed to it. Very, very thankfully. I enjoyed it. Please welcome to the show Dr. Andy Kaufman. How are you, sir? I'm doing fantastic. Thanks so much for inviting me on. I appreciate it. And I didn't know that I was too dangerous. I thought that was, I thought people just didn't like me, but dangerous is much better.

Yeah, dangerous is much better and sometimes you can mistake the two. And I wish people would just tell you. Because I feel like that's what I'm going through in comedy right now. They're a little upset with me in LA that I'm a little too honest. So it's like, I had a buddy thi buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy buddy to buddy to buddy to buddy to buddy to buddy, I'm a buddy, I'm a buddy, I'm a buddy, I'm a buddy, I'm a to bea, I'm a little too honest. So it's like, I had a buddy do my show last night and I couldn't tell how receptive he was to my act. And so we'll see, I'll call him today. Be like, are we still friends, bro? After I know you might not agree with everything I'm saying.

So there are people who get very, they just get very upset when you're too honest. Like there's just something about that, that people get really upset when they're too honest, but so I don't want you to think anyone was talking negative of you. Everybody I talked to about you, raved about you and said very nice things, just that some people might be afraid to have you on and this is not one of those shows. So it's one of those things like where if you just take a citizen with a citizen a citizen a citizen a citizen a citizen a citizen a citizen a citizen with a citizen with a citizen with a citizen with a their th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A to to to thi. A to to to to to to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. to be. to be. to be. to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. I I I I I I I, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. too. too. tha. tha. too. toe. tha. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, average knowledge and they, you know, happen to drop in on one of these conversations we're having, I mean, which are mostly at a very deep level, like you have to have a lot of other knowledge to kind of engage with this kind of content, it's going to be hard to take. You know what I mean?

you got to start the show. You're act is like that too. Yeah, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am th I am th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You tha. You th show? Your act is like that too. Yeah, I agree with that. What I am trying to do with this show and then we'll get the doctor talk is that I am trying to get to the point where I want this to be digestible so somebody can just show up and listen to any episode and get a running start. So that's it. So doctor. Sam, I heard your recent interview with Richard the the interview with the interview with the interview with the interview. the interview. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. the. I th. I to do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. to do. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. the the th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. ththat's it. So doctor. Well Sam I heard your recent interview with Richard Grove and you know we act he and I actually do some collaboration together and you know it was it was super informative. Like people can really you know begin to absorb some important information through this you know vehicle that you've set up. Thank you man and that does mean a lot

to me because that is what we want to do and again We say it all the time we're the shallow end the the training wheels To get to this this is an advanced conversation But we'd let we're gonna deliver in a way that people can understand it. So for those who may not be familiar with you to do doctor. I think you've earned it even if you were like a voodoo doctor who cut????? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the to the to the the the the the to the the to the the to to to to to to to to to their they. they. their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. t. try. try. try. try. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. try. try. try. try. they. they. the. I think you've earned it. Even if you were like a voodoo doctor who cut off chicken heads, I'd still call you doctor. But would you like to tell? I'm not going to ask you to bend over and drop your pants, I promise. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you. That'd be the first person I've met this week that hasn't asked me to do that. Because I just did some life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life insurance stuff. But so can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your movie? Yeah, well, so I, you know, was a mainstream regular doctor. I went to medical school in South Carolina.

I did my psychiatry residency at Duke and then I specialized in forensic psychiatry where I was like an expert witness. And I also did research and I came up with a medical device, a suicide prevention device actually. And then, you know, when I came across this book from Kelly Brogan and you guys might know of her, it's called The Mind of Your Own is the book, it was like a New York Times bestseller and she basically debunked psychiatry, which I had kind of been doing step by step in my own research beginning at Duke.

And I thought that, you know, this is great to find someone who shares this kind of opinion, and then she presented this way of using natural healing. And it was really mostly nutritional. And so I tried this and it kind of changed everything for me because a former colleague who we kind of experimented with this together and she basically had a remission from anxiety that had been affecting her for over 20 years and it was a very simple way to go

and I'd never seen results like that in the medical community. So that led me down a path and then when COVID hit, I just started looking into the scientific research behind it like the papers where they said they discovered the virus and showed that it caused this new disease. And I found that they actually weren't doing real science, like some of the most basic things about science, like doing a control experiment or following the scientific method just wasn't a part of this medical science.

And then I basically shared that information with people. And of course, it's a lot to take in, because it kind of overturns the whole germ theory. In other words, I found that they haven't even proved that any of these viruses that they say cause disease even exist, let alone cause a disease. And with the other germs like bacteria and fungi, which are real, like where you can see them

and grow them in a laboratory, they haven't proven that those cause any disease. So this was like, turn my world upside down because I was like a regular doctor. I had to take it all the vaccines. A lot of them I had to take to practice in health care setting. I even gave myself a tetanus shot one time when I went on a trip to Costa Rica.

You know, my kids were vaccinated. I throwne, thuuuuuuuuu-thae, the, thu-tha, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theeeeeean, thean, thean, thean, theauuuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thea, thea, thought germs were real, I prescribed antibiotics and all of this kind of stuff. It wasn't until I started looking into it and reading the papers that I was kind of just blown away. Like, I was really at first, I thought I might be delusional, like that I wasn't thinking straight or I was making logical errors. And when I first put this information out, I got like a panel of people to watch it to kind of tell me if I was cracking up. But fortunately, they all took it seriously.

And then, you know, that's kind of what led me on this path to try to speak the truth in the face of the pandemic, and try to shift the medical paradigm from these false theories, fraudulent practices into something more honest and natural that gets real results and I've seen that happen in my day-to-day life. Well I love everything Hussein. What we like to do on the show when we have this conversation, we like to make Johnny kind of the void. You know, the devil's advocate, not in a bad way,

but he asked the questions that we feel like people who don't believe in this stance. It's a little difficult position for when I'm going to get a doctor. But I feel it's important. We do this all the time. I like this approach. I mean, I'm a big fan of the Socratic method and debate like I any idea right that you put out there it has to be able to be challenged and you have to accept that challenge otherwise the idea has no merit you know and if you point out information that contradicts what I say I'd be happy to change my mind.

I love it because I really do believe in in what you're saying right now I've been converted and so it's very, we could have this wonderful conversation where we're just screaming at each other in agreement. But I like, I like to have somebody asked honest questions because I think it's important because this is such, there's like very black belt conversation. Some of them are darker than others. And but this one to me is like, to me is like, to me is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, is like, to me, is like, to me, to me, to me, to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to to to to to to to to to me, to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to to to to to to to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to be. to be. to be. to. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to.'s important because this is such there's like very black belt conversation some of them are darker than others and but this one to me is like right in there with that it goes against everything that not only we have been taught just regular people you know dick joke comics who do podcast been told but also our medical community that people when we see a doctor in front of their name, we assume they have all knowledge on lockdown, that they know everything,

and that if you walk to them with a problem, they know the answer that will help you get feel better. You know, it's like this notion that like all you have to do is get to the hospital and you'll be saved. Like there's so many people, get them to the hospital! Like, oh my god, we got there, yeah, and everyone high-fives. Or eventually they'll figure it out like in the show house. Yeah, like eventually the guy's going to figure it out because it's a genius. So, so, so, well, go on, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, like, you know, who went into health care as a profession, right, that's what they thought they were getting into. And, but the thing is, if you look at the evidence put forth by the medical establishment itself, right, by Johns Hopkins, by other authors who published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, you can add up that medical care itself, when delivered, you know, in the way that medical care itself when delivered, you know, in the way that it's delivered,

is actually responsible for at least the third leading cause of death if you compare it to the CDC numbers. You know, that's from officially published data. So the myth, the cultural iconography, right, or the prestige of the medical profession, like you described it, that is played up in literature, and tvvies, and it's in it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in it's in our it's in our it's in our the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiaughe, thiaughe, thia, thi, thi, thi, is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the way, the way, the way, the prestige of the medical profession like you described it, that is played up in literature and TV and movies and it's in our common, you know, belief system. But if you look at the hard numbers of what actually happens when people go under the health care system, you see something very contradictory, right? You see actually that it kills many, many, many people,

more than pulmonary disease. Because that's the third leading cause of death that's definitely surpassed by these numbers. And then the only things ahead of that are cancer and heart disease. So if you look at it from a realistic, data-driven, scientific point of view, you see a very different picture than the one you described. Yeah, I mean, here's the whole thing. It's like, you know, we're kind of in this battle for the hearts and minds of humanity. And you have science on one side or what I call intelligence versus smarts, in my opinion, and, and it, and it, and it, and it, you could be both, but there seems to be these people that have, you know,, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. the th. thi, the, the, thi, the, they, their, their, their, their, they, the, the, the, the, they. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. th. th. th. th. thr. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there seems to be these people that have, you know,

everything is data, but they cite data without actually studying the data. They don't, you know, like, there's so many people who have so many arguments about science, no matter what side you're on, that don't ever do any of the research or experiments that they are citing. They just take people's word on it and like I know it gets super exhausting to question everything, but like at this moment in time, it's super important to do that. To question everything. To go, okay, so so like I know you want to talk about water because I really do want to talk about water and I do think water is very very important. There is one study out there and it's shocking when you

hear it and that is that they've never in the history and you could correct me if I'm wrong doctor They've never had an experiment where they have successfully in any way taken a quote-unquote virus from one person and transmitted to another person. Is this true? Am I right on that or am I just over simplifying it? No, no, you're pretty much right and there's kind of two ways of looking at it. One way is did they ever have like a virus just by itself like No, no, you're pretty much right and there's kind of two ways of looking at it. One way is did they ever have like a virus just by itself, like purified, where they gave it from one organism to another and that they've never even attempted.

But then there's the other thing that when they give some body fluid from somebody who's sick that they think contains a virus, but they haven't proven it. They've done that experiment experiment experiment experiment experiment experiment person they gave it to didn't get sick. Like that, that to me is the most shocking thing out there. And like, at that moment when you tell people that, what you will instantly see is a shutting down and a disengaging of the conversation. I can tell you why. Okay, no, no, I can tell you why they shut down there. Partly because they want to see, they want to see the citations, you know what I mean?

And, and the absence of that, if you're just talking to somebody about this, no, I get that. to you know, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard. their. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they's hard. they's hard. they's hard. they's hard. they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're they're they're they're, they're they're they're, they're they're, they're they're they're they're, they're they're they're they's. Yeah, they's. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're, they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the tot. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they. Well, if they're talking to me and I have my cell phone, I can send it right to them. Yeah, well, I mean, do you have those handy? I'm just curious. I do. I'm sure our readers would love to read about it. I know I would love to read later. I can give you the PDF or, it's the Spanish Flu study. I can, you know, tell you all the details about it if you want, but that's a key, key thing

that you guys are mentioning is that you not only have to actually read the papers or look at the papers, but you have to read how the experiments were done. Because that's the point where a lot times they fudge their interpretations. And even mainstream guys like Professor Yoenidas at Stanford, right, wrote this huge article showing that more than half of all published scientific papers actually have false findings or conclusions that don't reconcile with their data for one reason or another. And then you have also the study of the peer review system which shows that you know it doesn't uncover errors like they did studies

where they purposely put like logic or mathematical errors into papers, manuscripts and sent them to peer reviewers and they miss the errors. So these things get published all the time and that's why you have to read it and they miss the errors. So these things get published all the time and that's why you have to read it and scrutinize it yourself. Johnny, thoughts on that? I mean, I mean, I simply agree. I was just saying why you tell somebody down on street, you know what I mean?

Yeah, 100% percent. 100% percent. And even somebody who is fully invested in this theory finds that so incredibly bizarre to me that this experiment has never been done, it's never happened, yet this is the 100 percent accepted belief. I like it blows it blows my mind and when you sit there and you know it's because I have daughters now right and I have daughters and they're two years old and they're just got kid cooties which is the equivalent of

adult AIDS right they'll just get you just you just get near them and you're like oh my God dying right and and and there'll be times where like thosethey're sick and they won't cough on me, they won't do anything. And then the next day, I get sick and I'm like, how did that happen? How did that happen? And then I remember listening to the virus, to all these people talking about this, this, you know, the vaccine and like even the even the pharmaceutical companies were talking about shedding and I was like they're shedding going on. I go, shedding was shedding and then you start studying it and they're like, okay I get the vaccine I have all these things happen. I can I can trigger that in you and I go, that to me is train theory. That, that says that's, the, the, the, the the, thory, thory, thory, thory, thory, thory, thory, thory, thory, th-I, thi, thi, the, the, they, the, they, they, they, they, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, they, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. I, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, thin, they, they, they, they, theyme, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, and I go, that to me is train theory. That says to me, that is train theory. Am I off on that? Can I ask one question? No, no, you're right. I think there's an issue

with defining terms here too because we've had a couple of people on the show calling themselves terrain theorists believe in viruses and you know to think that they exist and they infect people the way we've been taught but that the cause of infection is typically more to do with the the weakened body, you know the weakened terrain. Is there is there are there clearer terms we can use here than terrain terrain theory to kind of make that distinction do do th th th th those those those those those th those th th those th those th those th th those th those th those th those th those th those tho do tho do tho do tho do tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoe. the. Do the. Do the. Do thea. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theaa. thea thea thea thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theaa. thea. thea. thea. thea terrain theory to kind of make that distinction. Do you, do those exist? Well, I mean, this is kind of complicated getting the nomenclature right because I would say that if someone says that some kind of outside particle like a virus or a germ has any causal

role in disease that's not consistent with what people would call terrain theory but terrain theory isn't like a unified theory of medicine or health like there's different other things that are more like theories that are under the umbrella of terrain but terrain basically just means that your health is determined based on the you on the physical and spiritual and vibrational milieu of your body and yourself, rather than by some invader or saboteur like a germ or that kind of thing. But there are theories like the theory of pliomorphism,

which has to do with how bacteria come from these tiny little stem cell type things called different names but Mike Rosima was one of the first names right and then there's there's a theory related to you know toxemia or toxins that that's a major cause of illness and that's you know my experience working with people definitely bears out that that is a major factor of disease because when people do things that would get rid of toxic substances out of their body, that's when they heal from serious diseases. Okay, interesting. Now, are people in your field that study and subscribe to the idea that, you know, like, I guess we could call a pure terrain theory. Are they doing their own research? Well, there are some people who are doing research of various kinds. Like, for, you know, and then there's also, this is like a very new field, and if you look at how research, you know, is conducted, like laboratory research, for example,

it's all through a centralized funding mechanism that doesn't look outside of the alopathic channel. So it won't look outside of germ theory. They won't provide any funding from the government or from industry. And it's mostly the government that funds research. So you do have people who are researchers outside of this who are looking at a variety of things. And so some of the people, like I think you had

Bear Lando on the show before. Right now, he and his career has done a lot of research related to pliomorphism, which I just mentioned a couple of minutes ago with Enderline, who is one of the most prominent scientists who did that work. Earlier in my career, I did a variety of research, mostly in biochemistry, a cell biology. I worked in a couple of biotech companies. I did computer modeling. I also did public health research in a CDC-sponsored position, doing AIDS surveillance

in New York City with the New York City Health Department. So a lot of us have a variety of different kinds of research experiences. I used to actually teach forensic psychiatric fellows and we have some publications. It wasn't, that wasn't benched research, you know, like where you're mixing chemicals and doing cell cultures, but I've done that earlier, that type of work earlier in my career.

So a lot of us who are in here, you know, Stefan Lanka is also a very prominent voice, and he was a postdoc virologist. Like he did his PhD in virology, did a postdoc. He actually discovered what's called a giant virus which lives in sea algae and studied that and he actually purified it and showed that it existed and it wasn't until he started looking into the alleged disease-causing viruses like measles, that he found out that they weren't actually doing real scientific experiments and they were fudging all of their data and that those things didn't really exist. So there are quite a number of people who have strong research backgrounds or who are currently conducting some form of research like in this community. Oh okay I mean I definitely

to be clear I wasn't assailing anybody's credentials there I was just I was just curious if there was anything published that we could read. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. There's some, you know, one thing is the on my website you'll find the statement on virus isolation, which is something that Tom Cowan and I did. There's you know an excellent book called OPM, Diamonds and Empire by Nancy Turner Banks. There's Tom Cowan's book, The Contagion Myth, which is very recent. There's a book Virus Mania, which has Torssen Englebrecht, Kloos Kohnline, and Sam Bailey, among other authors. So there's a lot of really strong research that's been published in a variety of ways speaking to this issue. Hey guys, I want to tell you about our friends at First Leaf. Do you feel like you kind of

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transfusion, where does the terrain go into there? Is there... Yeah, sure. Well, you're basically injecting rotting flesh into somebody. Because once you take the blood out of the body, it immediately starts dying and undergoing you know putrefaction or the normal decomposition process. And so that means that the contents of the cellular material there is getting leaked out and under destruction. So that exposes the recipient to a lot of things that it shouldn't be exposed to, and that's why it causes the type

of reactions it does I would say by my best estimation. But they actually have a way of looking at blood samples that I learned about through John Stuart Reed and he's someone that's actually currently doing research related to health and he was looking at these donated blood samples and exposing them to sound including human, and found that many of the cells that were in the dying process would actually come back to life by exposure to the sound. But he told me about this instrument that measures

some optical property of the blood sample and tells you basically the proportion of cells that are still alive. And so just so you know like that, you can imagine if you injected a rotting piece of steak into your body that you'd be likely to get sick from it, right? So that's essentially what you're doing. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. There's so much going up.

So it's like, we always talk about this cold sores on your lip. You're like, oh, you gave somebody a cold sore. Can you get, what is a cold sore and can you give somebody a cold sore? Well, so let me just make one important point because, you know, what I started off doing was just looking at the experiments that they say, you know, where they say germs cause these diseases, right? And many times, there isn't actually an experiment like you pointed out, like there's not an experiment

where they take the fluid out of a herpes blister and you know, inject it into another person and then see if they get a herpes blister. So I know that many things are just not proven not be true, but then there's still the illness, right, because people do get blisters on their lip, you know, that whatever we call herpes is a real thing, right, that people experience, so what is it. So I'd like to be able to, you know, quote scientific studies that show this, but simply none are done because all of the funded research would say that the herpes thir virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus virus, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi, thi, would say that the herpes virus causes you know these problems but what I think causes it is a combination of your body wanting to get rid of excess toxins and your skin being weak from most likely from not getting enough collagen or certain types of nutrients in your body so and many people seem to suffer from this on the modern Western diet that their skin gets thin and atrophic

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And people who I've, you know, kind of taught this approach to it, and when they do some cleansing and eat some like bone broth to get extra collagen, that kind of thing, they stop having herpes outbreaks. So the whole con game for the longest time is being controlled by the AMA, right. the, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the longest time is been controlled by the AMA, right? The American Medical Association. I've read a book on it. It's called Murder by Injection. And it broke. That's a great book.

I love the book. I mean, you were like, what? You're like, that all happened? And you just watched a systematic control over the medical community, the way they made chiropractics and any homeopathic type of science got ran out. That's right. For their schools, their certificates, any of that stuff, any of that got dried up and they became like outliers and outlaws within the medical community.

And it just comes down to, you know, these just this very powerful group of people, the Rockefellers, who basically wanted to get everybody into the virus theory and what and viruses were the problem and so they hijacked the way we train our doctors, that correct? Yeah, so it's funny you mentioned this because I actually have another film called Hippocratic hypocrisy that is about this very issue and I think you're referring to the Flexner report which was commissioned by Rockefeller and also J.P. Morgan and it was to basically it function to change the entire medical education system in the United States toward this model of cut burn poison

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even to teething babies. So, you know, that's the origins of what Rockefeller helped to transform the education system to in this country. And then it comes down to two gentlemen that have a view of how disease and sickness happens. One is Louis Pasteur and the other one is the gentleman who pushed out the terrain theory of his name, Excapes. Antoine Bayshop. Okay, can you tell us a little bit about your, any knowledge you might have on, out the terrain theory, his name escapes me. Antoine Baysham. Okay.

Can you tell us a little bit about your, any knowledge you might have on, on their relationship and what, how one was celebrated, the other one was shunned and any thoughts on that? Absolutely. And there's an excellent book that covers this in depth by Ethel D. Hume that you can look up. I tham. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thuuu. the the the the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's the. It's te. It's today. te.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. It's. It's. Itume that you can look up. I think it's Pasteur or Beshamp, it's called. But Beshamp was essentially a serious scientist. He was a natural products chemist, and he started doing these experiments to study microorganisms and fermentation.

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but do it in a way to sensationalize himself. So there's this great example where Béchamp, you know, did this experiment in a flask with fermentation using the air to provide the microorganism to ferment. So Pasteur went to repeat the experiment and claim it as his, but instead of just doing it, you know, in the, the, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, the conclusions, you, the, the conclusions, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, the conclusions, you know, you, you, you, you, the conclusions, the conclusions, the conclusions, the conclusions, the conclusions, the conclusions, the conclusions, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, you know, the microorganism to ferment. So Pasteur went to repeat the experiment and claim it as his, but instead of just doing it, you know, in his laboratory, he toured around the south of France and went to vineyards and captured

the special air of each vineyard and made it a public relations campaign and had photographers and news coverage, right? Because he was basically trying to make a name for himself and get in with the French royalty and get funded and such, and he was very successful at doing that. There's a really interesting book

by a Princeton professor, which talks about the diary that he had that was finally released by one of his third generation ancestors that you can learn about a lot of this. But Baysham continued to do the work and of course he initially thought that fermentation required a germ from the air to come in, which is kind of like similar to germ theory that the germs out there and then it invades your body. But then later on he found that the germs are actually present right in the plant material or in the the the animal the animal the animal the animal the animal the the animal the the the the animal the the the the the the the then later on, he found that the germs are actually present

right in the plant material or in the animal even itself. And Pasteur never kind of got the message on that. And that line of research, which became the beginning of the theory of pliomorphism, because what Bayschamp found is these tiny little particles that he calls a microzima, which were essentially like the stem cell, they could become any kind of bacteria. And they're in our body, in all these cells, and several other scientists have replicated this and shown this to be the case. And when we need them, they come out of our body,

and different parts of our body, and they turn into certain species of bacteria, or sometimes even fungi, or other microorganisms to help recycle and clean up any damaged material in our body or help process and remove toxins or foreign materials from our body. And that's what Bayshamp really discovered, but because Pasteur had made a name for himself and all these things and then he developed the pasturization process which was adopted by governments, then he was remembered in history, even though Beshamp's subsequent experiments actually disprove most of what Pasteur claimed. And it was really interesting that Pasteur, when he started off before he copied Beshamp's intermediate experiments, he actually thought, believed in spontaneous generation, that organisms just come out of thin air or out of the ether spontaneously, that they don't come from some source that already exists in nature.

It's so insane, right? And, you know, we've talked about this before, we, you know, we've had Jamie Deluxe on, and, you know, we've talked about like, how we, how we train our doctors. And, you know, we use the example before we use it again. If you teach somebody from a very young age that red is blue, right, forever, whenever they see red, they're going to say, I see blue. You're teaching them. So if you teach that these toxins that your body naturally puts out, is in fact a virus, a foreign agent, let's say,

from the outside that has come to infect about. That's what they're going to see. They're going to see. I have a funny example of this because, you know, I, most people don't know, but I actually have kind of a silly side. So when my daughter was really young, every time she got the hiccups or someone else did, I said, oh, the hickly-dickly-ups, right? Because it got a laugh out of a young child, right? So fast forward several years,

she's in school now in kindergarten, and she has the hiccups, and her teacher says, oh, you have the hiccups, and she goes, no, they're the hickickickickickickickickickickick, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the hi, they're they're the hi, the hi, the hi, the hi, the hi, the hiccups, and she goes, no, they're the hickly-dickly-ups. And she's like arguing with the teacher about what they're called. So you see, like, of course a child is going to believe their parent or the authority figure, and they'll even argue that with strangers, right? Even if it's the false belief, and I had to kind of put my foot in my mouth and explain to her that I did that in an entertaining, loving way and not meaning to you know deceive her. But that but that's how you know it sticks the belief you're told at that young precious age about if Johnny coughs on you're gonna get sick you're gonna get his germs right I mean kids even

invented the cootie shot game right based around this so this thing sticks your whole life and it becomes foundational you never question it you never think thi it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi thi the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. that's that's So this thing sticks your whole life and it becomes foundational you never question it you never think it might possibly be untrue. Can I can I ask what is it that scientists and students are observing under electron microscopes that they are being told our viruses? What are those actually? Well you know I'd like to say first there's a lot of problems with electron microscopy in general because what you have to do to the biological tissue in order to do electron microscope. Like you have to shoot it with an electron gun, heat it to high temperatures, freeze it, put toxic substances, solvents and heavy metals, sometimes even uranium is used.

So whatever you're seeing, it's hard to tell how close that lines up with what's actually in a living organism. Can you show them these and then find out which one would even look like what would well I think most of those are our renderings? Or is there any of them that are like Google Google like early images of like bacteria Fasio Phaeus. Pull that back because there's something you should look at in there that's interesting. There was one that looks like a spaceship. Do you see that? Which one? Go down a little bit? Yeah, yeah, right there. There. Yeah, so that that's that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's a. That's a. That's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's like. that's a the the that's like. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. thea. th. th. tha. thea. tha. the the the the the the the the tha. tha. that's. the the the bottom. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. So that that's a bacteria phage and that looks like a real microscope image. Yeah. So now these are, now that shouldn't really be called a virus because those are found in

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nothing else that looks like that, right? So that's very distinctive from what the pictures look like of these so-called pathogenic viruses that they say cause disease. So if you find a picture of those you could see how it's quite a contrast. So are though are these pictures that we're seeing are these actual things or these like renderings? Well some of them are actual so I'll tell you a couple things. An electron microscope image is going to be in black and white so so sometimes they colorize it after the fact but that's artificial so you could just toss out the fact, but that's artificial.

So you could just toss out anything in color, and say that's not a real microscope image. And then I can help you identify what's what, but a lot of the things that people see that are in the news media and other sources are actually made by artists and they're not real pictures of anything from a microscope. That's so, in fact, the graphic artist who created the main like Saracov to cartoon, I think won an industry award for it. That's so, that'd be so hilarious.

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Like first they put out particles, kind of like a distress call perhaps, we don't really know the true function of it. But ultimately, as the cell dies, it disintegrates into particles. And part of the reason for that, I think, is to prevent the contents from inside the cell to be exposed to the surrounding tissue, because there would be enzymes that could digest things, or there might be toxins or waste products that the cell was storing, and it doesn't want those to get out and damage your other tissues.

So it kind of secures them all in some kind of membrane container. And it's these particles that they're seeing and or showing on the microscope. And you can see if you look at the pictures, there's multiple different particles there. Because it's kind of a random process. There's not like, you, you, th th th th th th th, you, you, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thox, tho, thi, thox, you thox, tho- tho- tho- tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, you tho, you tho, tho, you tho, tho, thox, to to to to to toox, tooxa, toxa, thoxa, thoxa, thoxa, thox, th There's not like, you know, these particles that the cell disintegrates into it's not like a distinctive thing. It's, you know, it's just kind of like debris, you could think about it. Like if you, if your house, you know, suddenly a tree fell on it like from a hurricane and it was beyond repair, but you were going it up, you'd take all the damaged things, the broken pieces of debris, the dust, right?

You'd put it all in trash bags, and you'd put it out on the street, right? So it's contained, it doesn't spread everywhere or whatever. And that's kind of the same things, that a damage cell is going through, and they're their thetrash bags and they might be different sizes or have different things in them but essentially you can't make a claim that it's any more specific than that. I get it. So whether it's try and get rid of toxins or the cells dying, your body naturally kind of bags them up to be put up to trash. Now how would you then explain viruses among plant life?

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could get through. And then you take that fluid from the diseased plant and you, you know, I'm not sure exactly how you do it, but you apply it to the other plant, then that plant shows the size, signs of disease. And this might be like similar or analogous to rabies where you have one animal that's obviously sick and making this toxic foamy saliva that it's trying to get out of its body and then it through a bite actually injects that foamy toxic saliva into another animal and then they get sick right and so you're basically

taking the the toxic product of disease and then putting it in a healthy organism thereby poisoning that organism and showing you know the illness. So that you know is seems possible and that would be exactly the shedding issue that Sam was alluding to earlier is related to that and you know there's an interesting thing related to about that because the FDA is aware of the shedding issue. And they, if you're gonna use a gene therapy like an MRNA injection, you have to actually do special shedding tests.

It's a requirement to get your treatment approved. And what you're supposed to do is test all the body fluids of the person who gets the gene therapy for the gene product, you know, what the MRNA is supposed to make. So you would test, you know, the urine, the sceiola, tears, blood, feces, even possibly semen. Because, and if any of those fluids contain the foreign gene product, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, toe, the, the, toe, the, the, toe, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to bea, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tean, tean, tean, tean, tean, tean, C.eanan, tean, tean, tean, tean, them.e, them of those fluids contain the foreign gene product, like maybe it could be making some chemotherapy for a cancer patient,

or making you know the the so-called spike protein for the COVID shot, then you would say, oh is it in the body fluid? Because if it's in the semen and then they have sex with their partner, well then they're actually injecting the spike protein into their partner's orifice, right? Or if it's in your saliva and then you kiss or you share a beverage or something like that, right, then you're taking this poison substance that your body's making for some weird purpose and putting it into another person, they want to know that. Because the FDA in tha in thi in thi in thi in thi in thi in thi in thi in thi in the FDA in the FDA in the FDA in thi. the FDA in thi. the FDA in thi. the FDA in thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, the thi. the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the.e. the. the. theate. theate. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their it into another person, they want to know that. Because the FDA in this case redefined what a vaccine is and said that this MRNA is not a gene therapy, it's a vaccine,

it then was able to bypass any requirement for that shedding study. Can I ask then? That's nuts, dude. Can I ask this? Oh, sorry. No, no, no, I mean, I just, rab rab rab rab rab rab rab rab rab, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, rab, I, I, I, I, I just, r, r, r rae, I just, r raibibibibibibibibibes, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I, I, I, I, I, r th. R, I, ra, ra, ra, ra, ra, ra, ra, ra, th. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R. R, th. R. R, th. R, th. R, th. R, th. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r. R, r th. R, th. R. R. R. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. so nuts. Can I ask this? Oh, sorry. No, no, no, I mean I just, I, rabies then, I mean, a virus, if we want to call it that, with a, you know, a zero survival rate, essentially.

What, what is, I mean, is that just gnarly shedding? I mean, what are we talking about here? because any animal they find with rabies they kill. But I don't know what happens in nature. Yeah, okay. Because, you know, so rabies is an interesting thing because not only have I never seen of or heard of a case like as in my time as a doctor in medical school, but every infectious disease doctor that I was taught by, I asked about seeing a case of rabies and not one

of them had seen a case of rabies and a human. Now I have seen people injected with a rabies vaccine in an emergency department but I've never seen a human actually with rabies so that's kind of interesting. So you're suggesting perhaps it doesn't exist is I just want to be clear. Well I don't know if you know, I don't know if you know exactly like I have a theory about it yeah I have I don't have direct experience that the theory of their's you can't tell me that the only thing that might be transferred in a bite from one sick animal to another is a virus right in that sick you know saliva secretion of that rabbit animal there's got to be thousands th th th th thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous th of that rabbit animal, there's got to be thousands of different things in there, right? There's cells from that animal, there's

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They only have tests like the PCRs or antibody tests which show indirect proof and they have to be validated first against the gold standard to show that they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they have to be validated first against the gold standard to show that they're reliable but they've never done that because they've never been able to actually show a virus. But even by their gold standard, they don't do these experiments. Okay. That's, you know, to validate a diagnostic test. Like, you know, this is any test or any device that provides a measurement

In order to show that it measures or tests what is said to you have to First validate it, right? Which means you compare it against something that you know that does the job and you say is it pretty accurate? Comparate to that, right? So like for example, if you wanted to test a speedometer for a car, right, you could like have measure out two points and get a stopwatch, right, and like click time how long it takes to travel that known distance, and then calculate it and then compare that number to what it shows on the speedometer and calculate an error rate, right, and show if it's accurate or not. But for these diagnostic tests for viruses like the HIV-antibody tests, or any of the PCR or any of the other COVID tests, because they're all based on the PCR, or many other

things, hepatitis C, antibodies, all these other things, they've never undergone that basic validation study where they, you know, get a hundred people and they do their virus isolation procedure and show the virus in a hundred people and then do the test in the hundred people and say, you know, do the results match up and then do another hundred people that don't have the virus that are, you know, that are sick and make sure none of them have a positive test. Like that's the first tho tho thuuuu, you thu, you thu, you thu, you thu, you thu, you thu, you thu, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you tho, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, thi, you're, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, their, their, you, you, you, you, you their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr. And, thr. And, thin, thr. And, thr-a, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, that are sick and make sure none of them have a positive test. Like that's the first thing you do. If you go to the FDA website and how to get a diagnostic test approved, step one is show the, essentially the error rate, which you only can calculate by doing that validation study I just described. So it's the first step, but because of this emergency use authorization, they don't have to do it.

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like me honestly. Yeah, absolutely. I can tell you it would. Yeah, I can tell you right now because I'm that person. Well, let me give you an example because Stefan Lanka just a year ago, he partnered with a anonymous scientist in a, you know, university laboratory who's afraid to reveal her identity because she thinks she'll get fired for doing this. She, he conducted a control experiment for a virus isolation. In other words, he did the same experiment that they do, that they say proves the existence of the virus in a person who they took a biological sample.

And he did that experiment, but he didn't include any possible source of a virus. So no fluid from a person. Just the experiment without that. What virus are we talking here? Well, the thing is, there was no virus in the experiment at all, is what I'm saying. He did the virus isolation experiment without a virus. Oh I see, I see, okay. No possible source of a virus, just the cell culture, the antibiotics, the reduced nutrition, nothing else. Yeah, Johnny we know that.

Well no but wait, we're gonna hear what what happened? Well he showed that they got the same cytopathic effects that is given as proof of the presence of a virus. What virus did it indicate? Well, it's the proof of any virus. That's how they prove a virus is in a biological sample. They don't see, you're confused because you're thinking common sense would be as if you're going to find a virus that causes a disease in nature, you'd get some animal that has the disease, and then you'd just take the virus directly out of that

animal, right? Yeah. Well, they still don't understand that. They can't do that. The virologists say they can't do that. And they've never, they attempted it before 1954, and they failed every time. And then in 1954, they adopted a new procedure

that doesn't actually find viruses, which is what the Lanka experiment was exposing. But then they stopped doing the real experiment. So in other words, instead of giving up and saying, these viruses must not exist, we can't find them, we tried really hard, they said, oh, we'll use this other experiment that actually won't find viruses, but we'll say it does, because that experiment actually won the Nobel Prize for a new way of manufacturing vaccines. Yes, dude, that's it Johnny. So, well, okay, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their their their the their their they, their the Nobel Prize for a new way of manufacturing vaccines. Yes, dude, that's it, Johnny. So, well, okay, so you're saying that the, it came, I don't know if these are the right terms, but it was positive for a virus that, even though there was no input, it indicated a virus.

What I'm saying is that the real way you would find something that exists in nature is like going to the source of nature and then taking it out and examining it, right? Studying it, like take it apart, look at what it's made of, things like that. So the virologists, mostly electron microscope was invented and they could see things that size. For over 10 years, they tried to do this. They had people with all kinds of diseases For over 10 years, they tried to do this. They had people with all kinds of diseases that they say were viruses, and they tried to take their disease tissue, because they did this with bacteria before, and find virus particles in their disease tissue, and they couldn't find any.

All they found was this mixture of these breakdown products, these little bags of trash. But there was never one that was distinctive, like that bacteriophage that could be recognized, or one that, like, there were a bunch that were all the same size and shape together, like it was one thing. They were just mixtures of different random things. And they were basically giving up. And then Enders developed this procedure to use, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was th, it was th, it was th, it was the, it was the, it was the, thuuiuiuiole, thui, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, theded, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.ea, thi.a, thi.augh, thi, thi, then Enders developed this procedure to use, it was thought before that you could only use the cells that were infected by a virus to culture and grow the virus. So like polio affected the spinal cord, so you'd have to grow it in spinal cord cells

to make more of the virus to make a vaccine from. And Enders found that he decided to use different kind of cells. He used cells from an aborted fetus because they're much easier to grow in the laboratory. And so he could manufacture a lot more of what he was doing because he could grow them way easier. The spinal cord cells are super hard to grow in the lab. And he got the Nobel Prize for this. Now he wasn't attributed to in to in to in to in to in to in to invent a to invent a to invent a to invent a to invent a to invent a to invent a the to invent a toe the the the toe, the the toe, the the the toe, the th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, thi. I. Ia, the, thin, thin, thin, te.e. Wea, tean.ean.uui.ean.ean.ean.ean.ean.ean.ean.e.e.e.e.c.c.c.c. He lab. And he got the Nobel Prize for this. Now, he wasn't attributed to inventing the polio vaccine.

That was Jonas Soak, but they worked together. And it was his manufacturing technique that allowed them to make enough to get distributed to the population. And that's why he won the Nobel Prize. But after that, that manufacturing procedure suddenly became accepted as proof that the virus exists in the first place. Now this was kind of by sleight of hand because when Enders who developed it published

a paper on measles about this, he didn't make that claim at all. In fact, he said that what we see in this tissue culture experiment doesn't reflect what's going on in the individual with measles. And he also found that when he did the experiment, he found the same effects, those cytopathic effects, which they say are proof of virus, in samples that he didn't include anything from a measles patient. So they had no virus in them. And in the paper he wrote that it must that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it in the paper he wrote that it must have been caused by other factors quote. So what does that even mean other factors that's well it means you know that essentially it invalidates the experiment and he didn't want to say that out right but other factors

meaning something else is damaging the cells in the cell culture it's not a virus because there's no virus in the experiment. Amazing so when they say there I when th this this this this th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the experiment. Amazing, so when they say they're, when they use this phrase isolating the virus, what that just means is meaningless? So it doesn't mean isolate. What it means is they take the putative source where they think the virus is, so like the lung fluid of a sick person with pneumonia, and they add that to a cell culture that they also starve in poison and then they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the theususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususus that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus that that that thus. that that that that that that that that that is that is that's that is they add that to a cell culture that they also starve in poison, and then they show that the cells in that culture start showing signs of damage, like when they break down into those particles. And they say that that damage is the proof that there's a virus in the lung fluid

that you added in in the beginning. But they don't do a control experiment where they use the lung fluid from a person with lung cancer instead of pneumonia that won't have the virus, or the lung fluid from a healthy person, or just doing it with no lung fluid at else, but keeping every other condition of the experiment the same. That's called a control.

And you have to do a control experiment to show that the variable you're looking at actually explains what you're seeing. And when Stefan Lange, so Enders did that originally and showed that the control was positive. And then Lanka did this about a year ago, and once again showed the control with no virus is still positive. So that is the clear scientific experimental evidence. And by the way, I can give you the paper on original monkeypox paper from 1959 also showed that it was positive in monkeys that were healthy that had no pox. So same thing, a positive control. So now it's been done three times, two

times it's been published, and then Lanka is unable to get his published in a peer-review journal because of censorship, not because it's unscientific. And you know, so we have the three times disproven virology or the existence of viruses through this experiment and yet people still are not willing to look at this and admit that this actually invalidates this whole theory. Well can I I'm not, you know Sam asked me to be the devil's advocate here and I just don't feel I'm an effective vessel for that so I might ask you what what would the the well-educated virologist response be to the things you've. th you th you've th you've th you've th you've th you've thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi this this thi this this this this thi this this this thi thi this thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi this thi this this thi this this this thi this this this thi th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi you, what do you, what would the well-educated

virologist response be to the things you've said? You've encountered them I'm sure. What do they say? So I'll give you a little anecdote because, so there have been some journalists you know who are really, really hell-bent on setting up a debate between me and my, you know, colleagues and a real virologist. And there have been some, you know, close calls. So there was a real virulologist who I had a preliminary call with that was, you know, moderated by one of these journalists. And this is a very intelligent person, actually, and who wasn't tied to every mainstream scientific opinion But he really was totally unfamiliar with my argument

So on this call I had to kind of explain it to him and then give him you know written materials to help him Understand exactly what I was saying so that he could decide if he wanted to debate me right? So we took a I gave him a couple weeks That's like handing them the playbook. Like here's my play book. I????????? the the the th. th. th, the th, the th, the the the th, the th, the the the th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi thi thi the thi the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi the the. they they they they they they. they. they they they they they they they the thi to debate me, right? So we took a, I gave him a couple weeks. That's like handing them the playbook. They're like, here's my playbook. That's so unfair. I'm going to run all these plays and get your defense right. I want him to find holes, you know, if they're a science, I'm guessing.

So a couple weeks passes and we reach back out again and we have some email exchanges and we're trying to kind of settle on the exact debate question and this is what he says to me. He says, you know, science really can't prove anything. What the fuck? What the fuck man? Oh, that's pathetic. So essentially what he's saying is that he knows that I was right, but he's not willing to go out there and admit it to the world.

That's pathetic. Now, everything else. Well, we've talked about it on this show a bunch of times. I get hit up all the time about it. There's an FDA document which breaks down the CDC's, uh, you know, their use of the PCR, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the down the CDC's, you know, their use of the PCR test, page 41, second paragraph, it literally says in a way that even someone dumb like me, okay, flunk first grade, functionally illiterate, okay, can read it goes,

without isolating the virus, being unable to isolate the virus, that they used another substance to build the COVID-PCR test. The creator of the PCR test told you it doesn't test for any one thing. It's all right there. Sam, this is like, you know, an amazing thing because this is exactly what I was talking about with that validation study for a diagnostic test because they would have to, you know, have do the viral isolation and compare the test results to that to actually validate the test. But since they didn't do that because they can't, they made synthetic DNA or RNA, like using a machine in a laboratory and they they validated the PCR for that. It's unbelievable. It's just the whole

thing is unbelievable. Yes it is. It's, and I get on stage and I'll say that to people. and the to that, and the the true that to that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and to to to to to to to to do that, and that, and the that, and to do that, and that, and that, and that, and that, that, that, that, that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toda, the the thing is unbelievable. Yes it is. It's, and I get on stage and I'll say that to people. And the room, even in a bunch of truthers, will get quiet. It will just get quiet. Because the notion is so insane. They never isolated the virus to make the test, which is telling you that you have COVID. It's not, I like, so we had this rash where everyone got COVID right and they're like you got to take a test I'm like I'm never taking a test ever I'm not taking it

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It could almost be anything. You remember? Right? Because there's no standard that it's held to. And they could just sell it. And everybody's buying it, right? Every government, every town, every city, every employer, right? And dude, they literally, they literally, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to, to, to, to, their, their, their. their. their. their. to, their. to, to, their. to, to, to, to. to. to. to. there was an article forever that was being passed around through the truth of the community says, the CDC no longer wants us to use this type of PCR test because it cannot tell you the difference between COVID and the flu.

And on this day, December, like, I think it was like, it wasn't Christmas, but it was like 29, we're gonna stop using this test. And then all the articles will come out. New test, bought by Bill Gates and George Soros will be being used. Have you ever heard anything about that new test? Have they ever told you what the name of the new test is? The Gates and Soros, prickly, prickly, you, you, you, you, you, prickly, you, you, you, you, you, you, prickly, you, you, you, you, you, prickly, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi, we th, we're th, we'll th, we'll thi, we'll thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, th, th, th, th, th, and thi, thi, and thi, and thin, the thin, and thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, at the, have you ever heard anything about that new test? Have they ever told you what the name of the new test is? The gates and sorrows, prickly, pickily, you know, nothing like that.

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That's what I was wondering. Why does that to go up so deep? If it's so contagious, point, Xavier. Yeah, if it's so contagious that I gotta wear a mask. Can I ask you, Doctor, why is it now that if the human organism, you know, which as we understand it, has been relatively stable now for quite a while, why then do we have novel symptoms, you know, of shedding? Like, like we all, everybody in this room lost their scent and taste? Why, why, why, I mean, that seems to me a new thing and, and, and, and, and, and, uh, their, and, and, uh, they, to....... to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. there's their scent and taste. Why why then why I mean that seems to me a new thing and and novel to this recent outbreak if you want I mean you

know I'm gonna use their terms their outbreak why why is that how does that happen? Well let me ask you when you say you lose your taste does that mean if you put salt on your tongue you can't detect it or is is it mean that it's more like the really the scent of more sophisticated flavors? It's pretty gone. When it was at his peak I'm eating salt couldn't I couldn't taste salt. Nothing. Really? You're saying that your your taste buds were affected and your and your smell sense. Yeah it was just all gone. At its peak. What about like a their about smelling a noxious substance like, like ammonia? Would you be able to smell that? I tried, dude, I tried, what would you call, essential oils?

I mean, I tried so many things. No, no, no, but I mean like, I'm just trying to sense like how bad was your smell impaired? I could smell nothing. So even if, if I put, th, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't test ammonia, but I didn't, okay. So, because that's actually something that neurologists do because there's kind of different levels of the sense. But, so this is, you know, it's neither, it's not entirely new and it's not entirely old. So, there... It's a damn coincidence that all three of us here got it though, right? I mean that's, you're saying it's not... Well, so let me get

into the possible explanations for that, but but I just want to like reassure people that this was actually very common before COVID. In fact, in I found one website that was an earnose and throat doctor group where they had an article about this particular symptom and they said it the the, the, the, thuuuuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is not thi, is not thi, is not thi, is not the is not the is not thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, the is not thi, thi, th nose and throat doctor group where they had an article about this particular symptom and they said it affects up to 20% of the population every year. So that's one in five people and most commonly associated with you know quote viral infections. So in other words colds and flu. So in a sense it's already a common condition. Now I know that a lot of people anecdotally describe that this is a more severe and prolonged

beyond the acute illness that seems to have different characteristics right from in the past. And I know that in the official channels, they associate this as like long COVID if it lasts beyond the illness or something like that. But that's obviously fraudulent. So the, in a normal cold, what th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thiiiole, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th is thi, thi, thi, thi, th is is th is th is th th th th th th th th th th th is th th th th is th th is th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is th, the thi, thi, the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, in thi, thi, in a thi, in a the theean, thean, the thean, the thi, the the thi, in a the the illness or something like that. But that's obviously fraudulent. So the in a normal cold, what happens is you just have inflammation. So swelling of the tissues and it impairs the sensory nerve functions temporarily while you have the swelling and secretions.

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that specifically impaired these particular nerves. So, one possibility could be actually from, now I don't know if this is, if you guys have experience wearing masks or doing testing, but I think that that could be one of the causes because there have been masks that have been recalled for having like graphene oxide, which is a known toxin. So and plus they're made a fiberglass and plastics, they're off-gassing things, you know, all these things. So it could be involved in mask wearing and also could be involved in these swabs because like I said, these are really essentially a drug delivery system. At the back of your wall of your nasal cavity, there's the trigemenna-nial nerve nerve, which thinal nerve, which thinal. thinal. th. thial, th. thial, th. th. thial, th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. the, the thi, thi, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their at the back of your wall of your nasal cavity, there's the trigeminal

nerve, which is one of those cranial nerves, and it can deliver things straight to your brain. So I would, you know, so we need, there's no real research looking into this. There's not even research like characterizing the nature of people's symptoms and how long they last and how prevalent it is. All we have are like people like yourself thiiiiiii. It the the the the the nature of people's symptoms and how long they last and how prevalent it is. All we have are like people like yourself that said, oh, I got a cold and I lost my sense of taste and smell for like several weeks or maybe even a couple of months after that, that was unusual. But we don't have any, you know, like say where we say, okay, this, 10,000 people in

the United States have this, you average time it lasts is 37 days. You know, we don't have that, even that kind of basic information, let alone a way that we can, you know, do biopsies, or, you know, do a neurologic exam, or do EEGs, or, you know, other kind of testing that might reveal the possible cause. But I would say that most likely,this is exposure to some kind of neurologic toxin that was inhaled because then it would have access to those particular nerves

that could be affected through inhalation. So that'd be my best hypothesis, but we really need some research to get to the bottom of what this is. The good news is that for almost everyone, it is time limited and they, those functions return........ the the the the the function the function their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, the possible, their, the possible, the possible, their, their, the possible, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theto get to the bottom of what this is. The good news is that for almost everyone, it is time limited and they, those functions return to normal. Some people, when they take a zinc supplement, that helps get them back to normal because a zinc deficiency can cause that, so perhaps zinc is somehow involved and can overcome the toxicity.

Oh, that's interesting because I'd always heard that zinc could cause loss of smell. Is that also true? I don't know, maybe if you snored it. No, but that's interesting. That's one of the- Watch yourself, XG. Reported side effects. I remember this.

You know, I actually didn't know that they took zinc and it got better and then I looked it up and so it was listed, you know, in the official, you know, medical literature as a symptom of zinc deficiency. So it's kind of interesting if it could be caused also by intoxicity. Here we go. This is from the Mayo Clinic. It says it recommends not using intranasal zinc. This form of zinc, as you said, it was snorted. Yeah. This form of zinc has this zinc has this zinc has think has think has think has think has think has thiink has thiink has thiink has thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It was was was was was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. t. toke. toke. took. took. took. took. took. took. took. took. took. took. This form of zinc has been linked with the loss of the sense of smell. You know, you remember those like zycam's, the ones that were dosed internasally? That's I think what they're talking about there. I see. Those are links. Well, you know, there could be other adulterance in there too. But one thing thin't th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thin. the thin. thin. th. thin. their thin. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. the. the. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. the. the. the. th when people, if you do take a zinc supplement, which I don't necessarily recommend, make sure it has a little bit of copper in it. You don't want to take zinc without copper.

Oh, interesting. Okay. So, doctor, you also have a, you also have another movie that I'm excited to watch, which is the way of the water. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, well that is a workshop that is coming up this weekend on the 5th. That's okay. You know it takes a while to make a movie. It was about two years to make to rain but we're working on the next episode but it won't be out for a while.

But you know what happened is I did a water fast back in March for 26 days. What? Wow! You got 26 days without eating food? Step your game up Sam. You're the guy. He's the guy we've heard about well we've heard you know we've heard about people doing these long fast he's the guy. What'd you do? What's your your longest? I did three days. I almost murdered an entire city. It gets easier actually after the first few days. But I hear that all the time. But I don't know, maybe I'm just a special kind of fat ass, but it's super, I mean, 26 days.

That's amazing. They say it does wonders for longevity. It's the thought anyway. I got to get back on it. I can't do 26 days. I'll maybe do 2.6 days. Well, you're not doing 3 days. If you, you can do one day, you know, like just start slow and work up.

Like I didn't start with 26 days. You know, I did several three-day fast and then I did a five-day fast, but you know, doing one that long, it's like I wasn't just sitting at home by myself, like I had, you know, a program that I was doing it with, and so I had daily, you know, phone calls and there were other people that were all fasting, you know, at the same time at different stages, and so, you know, you thiiiiii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, like thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you know, at the same time at different stages. And so, you know, it's easier to keep going and do it. And you find that like that kind of food craving and all the hunger pangs that you have the first couple of days, like, that stuff totally goes away. And you get into it like a different kind of state of being. And, you know, this thing was so laugh-changing for me, but what I really realized about it

is that it wasn't just about the not eating, because that just lets your body use its energy for healing instead of digestion, right? But it was the water. Like, basically purifying the water of your entire body through this process. And this is what I feel results in these amazing health benefits. So I dove into all the research about water. And what I found is that like everything they taught us about water in school is also wrong. And that like it's not just some solvent hanging out in the background doing nothing.

It actually is the most active part of biology. And it, like, do you know that just with a glass of water, if you stick a piece of plastic in it, you can, it'll turn into a battery? What? What? Yeah. You can actually buy a clock that's run on a water battery like this.

Like, water has these amazing things. Like if you put any hydrophilicicicicicicicicic, th. What, tholic, tholic, tholic, tholic, tholic, tholic, tholic, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, th. th. th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Like, th. Do, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Like, th like this. Like water has these amazing things. Like if you put any hydrophilic surface, which is like what almost all our bodies made of, right, like the blood vessels, cells, all that stuff, everything is hydrophilic pretty much, except for fats in our body. And when water gets near a hydrophilic surface, it separates the charge. It like forms a battery essentially.

And it also like changes its properties from like this flowing, you know, liquid into this viscous liquid crystal gel structure. And that's what drives all of the chemistry in our body and all of the function of our bodies. Yeah, I mean... Do you have search terms for this because XG is only coming up with clocks shaped like water droplets? No, I said water battery clock.

That's what... Water battery clock? Yeah, it didn't come up, huh? That's what came up. Well, these are just shaped like water droplets. This looks like some Japanese shit. Well, it's one the the the the the the the the the. Well it's one of the figures in Gerald Pollock's book, The Fourth Phase of Water, so that's where I didn't look for the website to see how much it costs but the I can get that

citation for you later if you want to put it in the show notes. Yeah I mean water is very important. We're talking about how it's not scarce but abundant and I mean there's a lot of stuff out there that they don't want us to know about. Oil we're paying out our asses for gas right now because it's like things it's just hard to get in supply lines and and you know like peak oil and oh my god oh so much stuff and what are you saying are you saying it's gonna be like Chinatown where who like in the future they're gonna try to control the water is that oh dude Hershey's already like dude the Hershey like Blah blah blah blah oh Nestle right was like blah blah blah you don't get your

water it's not this guaranteed right blah blah you know it's like just you could not be more evil is that him stroking his cat is that evil cat it's evil cat this this this siop is so big they've convinced us to essentially drink our own pee and and toilet water because that that's what the municipal water is it's the stuff that comes out of our toilets yeah I don't trust that should they're recycled back the the th and recycled th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th right th right th right th right th right th right th right thi. thi. thi. thi. tho-I thi. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaa''-n'-n'-wo-n'-n'-I tho-a comes out of our toilets. Yeah, I don't trust that. Those are recycled back right to us. Well, can you talk a little, how is it, is alkalinity relevant, the acidity or alkalinity of the water? Is that relevant? Absolutely. That's a big issue. That's one of the, so just to mention, like this workshop is I'm going to talk about all this science of water, the abundance of water, but mostly I'm going to deliver this step-by-step way that you can fully hydrate yourself. And so information like, you know, should I drink alkaline water or not is definitely something

and I would say don't. But, you know, it's funny, I was just looking for a graphic for my slide for this issue on pH. And I found this little graphic that came up, you know, and I wasn't looking for alkaline water or drinking or health, I just looking for a pH scale. And this thing came up and it showed like all the, from all the the acidic to all the way alkaline, and it showed examples of substances that have different pHs. And on the left side, which was all the acidic stuff,

like it showed like, you know, lemon juice and, you know, stomach acid and saliva and blood and things like that, blood was right in the middle. And so all the things like food, you know, animals, organisms, all this biological stuff. And then on the alkaline side, there were things like, you know, bleach, baking soda, lie. You know, stuff that you know is all toxic. And I thought this was like really revealing that, you know, the water should be, you know, neutral to the acidic side and

not on the alkaline side. Well, now, I know, I know, and tell me if this is just marketing spin, but I know that some of these manufacturers of alkaline waters claim that it's natural alkalinity of like mineral water from mountains and things. It's naturally alkaline. Is that not true? Well, you know, there are sources of water in nature that are of all pHs. And but my understanding is from Jennifer Daniels that, you know, ancient, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, there are sources of water in nature that are of all pHs. But my understanding is from Jennifer Daniels that, you know, ancient people that when they came upon an alkaline water source, they stayed away from it as drinking water because essentially things were dying in that water source. Now, it also depends on, you know, when we say alkaline what is exactly the pH.

And then, you know, there's other... But why have mine, it's about eight, by the way. It's about eight. Right, so that, you know, that's probably a little bit too high. Like for, so this has been a trendy thing, you know, this alkaline water. And some people actually add things of filtration that results in alkaline water. And several clients have come to me who have done this and they've had health problems as a result of this.

Because, you know, the stomach is highly acidic. In fact, it secretes hydrochloric acid, one of the most acidic acids like a pH of around one point something. And that's what your stomach uses to, you know, for digestion of certain nutrients and also to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you know, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to use use, to to to to to to to to to to to to to use, to use, to,'s what your stomach uses to, you know, for digestion of certain nutrients and also to, you know, keep parasites and foreign materials de-natured that enter your body. And if you drink a bunch of alkaline water, you're counteracting that physiologic effect. And then that can result in problems in the stomach lining I feel over time, or I've seen evidence of that clinically and many people who chronically drink alkaline water.

Other people who drink alkaline water seem to be in good health. So it seems that maybe some people are more susceptible or I haven't tested the pHs of these different waters. Maybe it's above a certain number, maybe it has to do with how reliable they are about drinking that water all the time, and it probably has to do with other lifestyle factors. But in general, I think there's plenty of good reasons to avoid alkaline water in general, and just not worry about it beyond that. So what would you recommend we drink? Because I mean, I just heard, like he said, I started drinking alcohol and water

because that whole, like right now I have one that says drinking water with flavored enhancing minerals. Right. So, you've got a worse problem because you've got water in a plastic bottle. Yeah, dude. So water in plastic bottles in like independent testing is shown to have something like over 400 the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I started to to to to to to to to thr- I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that I started I started I started I started I started I started I started I started I that I that I that I that I that I that that that that th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. threat. th. th. th. th. threat. th. th. th. threat. th. threat. th. threat. th. th. I that independent testing is shown to have something like over 400 different man-made chemicals in it. Oh, my.

So, what are we, okay. So, I'm freaking out right now. Where do we get our water from and what should we drink it out of? I know you're going to do a big seminar, but you got it like, no, it's okay. I'll give the easy answers. So, the, for water, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the the the the the the the the the the th. thi, to thi, thi, to to to to have to have to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. toe. toe. toe. the, the, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to I'll I'll give the easy answers. So the for water the most important thing is that it's pure. So if you can get access to a bona fide spring that's primary water and it has to be tested for that so that means it's not mixed with any contaminated groundwater as it comes out of

the ground like a pure spring, that you can drink just right out of the ground and not worry about it. That's probably what nature intended us to drink. But if you have to rely on a municipal water source or even a well from an aquifer that's not a spring primary water source, then first thing you have to purify it because it's going to contain lots of bad stuff, heavy metals, agricultural runoff, volatile organics, pharmaceuticals, fluoride, chlorine, depending on where you get it from, and you want to, the most important, those are much more harmful to you than any other thing we've

talked about in terms of the water. So you need to purify it and I recommend reverse osmosis or distillation to to purify to purify to to purify to to purify to to to purify to to purify to to to purify to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to purify to purify your the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the. thr. thru. thru.eolu. thru. throo. thro. thr. the. thi. thi. thi. the've talked about in terms of the water. So you need to purify it and I recommend reverse osmosis or distillation to purify your water for those sources. Either one of those would be good. And then you can just drink that pure water and you'll have already made a big improvement for your health by reducing or eliminating your exposure to all those toxic substances. And then of course you can improve the quality of your water from that point, but if everyone in this nation just took that step, there would be major improvements in health. Can I ask, because I'm someone who grew up on a farm and where glyphosate, you know, it's just used all around the country where I'm from.

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that all of the gluten-sensitive related disease is really not related to gluten, but it's related to glyphosate. Because, you know, almost all of the wheat that's hybridized like that is GMO wheat, which they douse in glyphosate. Interesting. Okay, thank you. Ah, man, so much, I mean like I'm freaking out now. I got this water bottle. I don't even know, I go to 7-Eleven, I don't even know what the fuck to do.

I get Avion. Is Avion bad water? Fiji? What are we doing? You know, you might be able to find some kind of bottled water that's good, but you'd really have to to to to to to to to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to beaqqqqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaqaq. theaq. theaq. theaq. their. their. their. their. their. their. their., but you'd really have to do your homework to see where it comes from and it would have to be in a glass bottle, absolutely. Voss, maybe? Voss isn't a glass bottle. I think it's in a glass bottle. You know, I used to think Fiji water was good and then I found some information and testing on it that showed it had contaminants as well, you know it's,'s hard to rely you know if all right if you want a reliable brand look up Ophora a you can have have it shipped to you a

water cooler and glass jugs of it if you want that will definitely be clean but it's much easier to just get yourself a filter and and some bottles and just fill them up and carry around with you. No, you're right That's what I do. I got to do that. Dang dang All right ma'am that O'fora water will set you back a pretty penny. Yeah, what about those machines that they sell that they that I have some friend that paid like I and I paid like 5,000 dollars for his machine on down payments and all this and he's like I got the best water hydrate you by tomorrow No, there's I'm not about, you know gimmicks and technology so much I try to emulate what what nature Provided I feel that that is the way to optimal health, but that being said there there are some things that might be promising for, you know Therapeutic purposes, but none of the gadgets that I've seen have

actually studies that really show anything conclusive. So for me, you know, like I don't want to spend my time learning or teaching about anything health-wise unless it's pretty clear that people with a serious health condition can get better with it. Right? So that's kind of my, if I don't, if I don't hear that from a lot of people or the general community, I'm not going to really look into something because it's just a, I'm not interested in, you know, something that gives a mild benefit. Only, you know, it's like I'm kind of like come from this doctor background. I only want to deal with people who are really sick.

So if it cures cancer is c cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer cancer the the the the the the the th. th. or heart disease, then I want to know about it. But if it makes you, you know, feel better or get more energy or something like that, I'm much less interested. Well, Doc, I mean, I could talk to you forever about this. I know. I wonder if you get sick of just being pelted with questions like queries, because it's never, it's never easy, right, to just be kind of, to face to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to feel to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, thi, thiaqe, thiaq., to to to thi.e, to to to to to to to right to just be kind of to face skeptics all the time is that is that exhausting? Well you know listen I got through medical school and all the hazing so this is you know really a piece of cake and all jokes aside though I just you know I'm kind of a natural pedagogue I enjoy teaching and you guys clearly are thirsty for learning and so I know you know this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. and you guys clearly are thirsty for learning. And so I know, you know, this information is not wasted.

It's for, you know, learning purposes, expanding our knowledge, being able to make better decisions in the world. So this is, you know, it's kind of a treat and I don't feel fatigued. I feel energized. Awesome. Sam is thirsty. I always thirsty, alright? I'm always thirsty. Well, you gotta always have a glass of water. I always do. So the movie is the train, the film,

and you have a seminar that's going to be this weekend, this Saturday, we're glad we can get this out. So people can check it out. It's called, what is it called, the warater. The way of the water. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th. th. thi, the. ta, ta. train, train, train, train, train, tha.a. train, tha. tha. tha. the the. the the the the the water? Yeah. The way of the water. The way of the water. It's a terrain workshop. So I'm trying to teach, you know, the basics of terrain medicine. So you watch the film to get introduced to it and then you attend my workshop to learn

how you can integrate it into your actual life. All right, well, Doc, you came, the the hammer the gods, you know, for a dangerous man, you're very cool, and fun to talk to. And I think that everyone should have you on the show. So if there's any, anytime, any way I could help you, I'll always do it, we'd love you on the show and you're always welcome back when you got any new projects coming. Again, it's Terrain the Film. And thank th th th th th th th thank th thank th thank th thank th thank th thank th th rain the Film and thank you so much for coming on a show.

We really did it. I mean I loved it and I mean like I'm a total terrain theorist and you know I think that there's like things like chem trails and stuff like that and they're spraying us with chemicals and all that stuff that is also affecting us causing things that happen to us that they want to attribute to a virus. That's just me, it's a multi-layer, Cyop, everything. I mean, you take a look at it, I know we're letting you go,

but we take a look at this whole, you know, that with the Chinese films, of people falling backwards, and everyone's, it's a lot, it's a it's the virus. I'm like well it looks a lot now today I go it looks a lot like what we see with people who took the vaccine and and the effects it's having on them. I mean a comedian Heather McDonald. Oh God that video. Yeah. Backwards like she could like you could be like oh it's fake like you can't not no. Yeah. It's just impossible It's one of those reflex things that you can't do It looks exactly like the Chinese films that they would they scared us. I don't trust that damn thing coming out of China I don't trust. I don't even trust any government. Yeah, it's really I mean the United States as much as the Chinese China trying to cause psychological operations on us. What's your thoughts your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th your th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's your thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't. I don't th. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't thi. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't the damn. I don't the damn. I's their. I don't their. I don't th. I'm. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't tr. I don't tru. I don't trust. I don't trust. I don't trust. I don't trust. I don't trust. I don't trust. I don't. I don't. Yeah well you know I agree we have to rely on independent unbiased journalists you know anyone that's getting their news feed from AP and Reuters you really is not worth listening to. So so it's

really key and you know you're just hitting on great points that you know you got to pay attention to what's really going on out there because it's not what you're being told. This is the final final question. Do you think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the thi. the their the the the you're being told. This is the final, final question. Do you think we are winning or losing? Well, you know, as humanity overall or as individual men and women, because I think it's important to look at it from your own point of view. You know, because when you look at it and you make the right decision and you learn, then you set an example for others. And the more and more people do that, it turns the tide for many people who are kind

of lost and misguided or unwilling to look at the truth or still want to trust the government and, you know, the mainstream the mainstream the mainstream the mainstream the mainstream mainstream the mainstream mainstream the mainstream the mainstream mainstream the mainstream the mainstream news the mainstreamtruth or still want to trust the government and, you know, the mainstream news media. So, you know, we can't say that, you know, 50% of people or even 40% or even 30% or even 25% of people know, you know, that what's going on is not what it seems at all. But there is a strong, you know, vocal minority of people who not just see what's going on, but are actively, you know, speaking out about it, spreading the message around. And you know, I can see all those people that have gone along and don't question everything,

you know, at some point they got fatigue. And like that's when you see all those videos when they finally lifted the airline mask you know BS right you saw all these people that that you thought of that they just like love to wear their masks and are scared all the time right they were so happy and relieved because they're just like God I'm so tired of this stuff it can't be that dangerous you know at some point and so that fatigue that fatigue that fatigue that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th is th is th. thi thi thi thi the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're thi thi the is the is the is theeeeeean. tean. tea. tea. thaea. thea. thea. the. the. point. And so that fatigue may be the closest we can come for a lot of people to looking at the truth, but it's going to be really hard to manipulate people again so soon, you know, and I think that is extremely, you know, hope enticing

for me, and I see all the possibilities, I see people starting to shift how they do things, a lot of people are leaving the mainstream health system and it's really growing, you know, that people want actually access to real answers and how do they really improve their health. So, you know, I'm very optimistic that things are going the right direction, that the battle is not, or the war is not nearly over, but that, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, you, that, that, that, that, you, that, that, th, that, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thiiiiiii. thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. things are going the right direction, that the battle is not or the war is not nearly over, but that you know in the end for for many of us I think victory in a way that you know we can define living in peace and in cooperation with our fellow brothers and sisters in an abundant natural world. I think that's very likely in the future.

Well, I agree. I think I think they just keep using the same game plans over and over. And I think they're losing. I think we're waking up to it. We're never going to save everybody, but we're going to save those who want to be saved and want to save themselves. So Dr. Andy Kaufman, thank you so much for coming on. Is Andy Kaufman, was that a lot of pressure to be funny all the time? Well, nobody can make a good joke about it,

so it's pretty easy. Okay, well, I appreciate you coming on, brother. And we look forward to our next conversation. I'm gonna check out, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the tha, to tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thi, the, the, the, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoomomo, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tooan, thin, thin.... tooan, thin.a.a. thin. thin. thin. thin, thin, thin forward to our next conversation. I'm going to check out the movie. I love the movie. I love everything you're doing, so thank you very much. Thank you, Sam. It's great to be here. All right, guys. Coming back.

Thank you so much. All right, guys. Sorry to coach off the time. Love you guys. Thank you guys. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit.

Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just move my mind. Tim foil hack.