Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #583: Demons Among Us with MR Gorga

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. Aaron, open your mind.

Starting point is 00:00:28 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Good! Morning Swarm and welcome the Timful Hat. You know I am? You know I'm here to do?

Starting point is 00:00:52 I'm here to rock. God, man, you got one job and you just took your time. You're just like looking up sneakers or something. I don't even know. Thank you, Johnny. I was in awe of that fucking voice you have right there. I know, it's pretty impressive. I'm sorry, I shouldn't joke. Do you think I give you way too much? Is that the word on street? Do I give you too much shit? Oh, dude. Do you listen to George Press stories, Side Dick Eddy and George Go Hard on me? I thus thi. If you listen, George, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the word, to to thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' th impressive, I th impressive, I th impressive. I th impressive. I th. I th. I thin, I thin, I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin, I thin. I thin, I thin, I'm thin, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. all for what so you know it's bad with like she like like like what what did I mean to you oh yeah

Starting point is 00:01:29 really like last week there was like dude tell Sam to stop chill out don't don't don't don't what did I say that was so mean to me that the day was on red it was that pineapple up your ass oh yeah yeah remember the pineapple the pina pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple the pineapple up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up you no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no you you you you you guys. I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pineapple up your ass episode? No, I don't. Yeah, I've been on Reddit and it's like dude Sam treats his interns like shit. Yeah, well you remember that you're replaceable. Guys thank you so much for tuning in. We're having a three-part series this week apparently about Jesus, the Bible, all that wonderful stuff. Thanks Mark. Well, it's all Mark's fault. And there's no the the the their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. that. that. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's the the the the the the tr. the tr. the the tr. tr. tr. the tr. tr. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's fall and there's no fall. It's great. They're all great episodes. It just that's the way it worked out.

Starting point is 00:02:10 Johnny, please don't ever do it. Apologize the mark, Johnny. Please. Hey, we have a theme. We like themes. Yeah, so we have N.K. Gorga on. Very excited to have them on. And he gets into his new book, Demons Among Us, and it's just basically about people, the

Starting point is 00:02:30 history of people being possessed, history of exorcism, the importance of Jesus in dealing with exorcism, and it's a great talk. We get really deep. We find out a lot about Johnny's faith in this episode, and I think you're going to love it. If you want to see me, hey, I'm going to say it right now, I love Jesus. I got people coming up to me in stores going, dude you got to find Jesus. I know where Jesus is.

Starting point is 00:02:56 He's in my heart. Can we stop persecut at Christians, me on the show? My name is you. What are you talking about, Johnny? I just wanted to hear you say the words. And you finally did. Guys, if you want to see me live, I'm going to be at the underground comedy club tonight, June 30th, June 30th, in Kosa Mesa, then bang-bang-Pau, July 15th. I meant Morris Plains, New Jersey.

Starting point is 00:03:26 And then on the 15th and 16th, we're adding a second show, everybody on that Saturday. So there'll be three shows total. And then August 5th and 6th, I am doing four shows at Cobbs. The first, the early shows are me doing stand-up. And then the second show is me, uh, me, the second show is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the 15, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, the COBS. The first, the early shows are me doing stand-up. And then the second show is me, Eddie, Xavier Guerrero. We are currently looking for a place, a couch for Xavier Guerrero to sleep on.

Starting point is 00:03:57 So if you'd like to have Xavier Guerrero, sleep in your living room. Let us know. I might be able to go more shows if that's how that works. Yeah, yeah. We want to see Xavier come out more on the road. Offer up your calls. I barely go even. Sam knows that show up at three in the morning anyway. Yeah for sure. Yeah so go check it out. Oh and July 20th is the next comedy chaos I'm putting together a lineup of cold blooded murders. Go to the home. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to tooomexx. to to too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. chaos. I'm putting together a lineup of cold, blooded murders. Go to the home page on Sam Tripoli.com. I'm very excited to announce go down that you can buy t-shirts.

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Starting point is 00:05:51 afraid. Get that 24 hours. I'll talk about some weird ass shit. That's all I do. Bang. Look at that. Look at that. Look how good looking I am. I'm aging quickly, that's all I do. Bang. tho. Look at th. Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, go. That, go. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the. to. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. th. the. th. th. there. Look how good looking I am. I'm aging quickly, dude. But you can just go to Sam Tripoli for all your needs. Listen, Rockfin has been fire, bro. Rockfin is fire. Sam, you can get Timfall Hat Premium on there. Conspiracy Social Club. My spiritual podcast, zero.

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Starting point is 00:06:54 And then you put to listen to my show where I just walked to Mean Streets of Los Angeles and put my life on the line interviewing Bloods and Crips trying to make shit happen, just go to Sam Tripoli.com, click on any of my free RSS feeds, Tim Foll Hat, Broken Sim, Cash Dabbys, Punch Drunk, Union, The Unwanted. Then I also do old episodes of two of my shows that are on Rockfin Conspiracy Social Club and Zero. Go check it out. Anything else, guys? Yeah, I'm actually gonna be raffling one of these signed posters off by Sam. Look at him shake his head. Signed. We don't smoke the same tomorrow on Thursday. 7 to 9. So if you want it, go participate. Go get it.

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Starting point is 00:08:27 Enjoy. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink, fun the fun of fun. All right, let's get into it. Very excited to have this next guest on. It's going to be another great one. He has a book coming out right now

Starting point is 00:08:45 or it is out demons amongst us. Please welcome author M. R. Gorga. How are you? demons among us. There we go. Bang. Great. Thank you for having me on. I love everything about you. I love your name. I love your hat, I love your energy. I'm all about you dude. Thanks man. So MR. Can I call you tha. you tha. I th the th th th th th th th th the th th th th. I th. I tho tho tho tho tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. the. te. te. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. the. you dude. Thanks man. So MR. Can I call you MR? Is that what? You surely can call me MR? Yeah. M. R. For our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can tell us a little bit about yourself and a little bit about your book and where our listeners can find you? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I'm a lifelong writer. I've been a writer all my life. I've been writing for writing in journalism and TV and scripts and everything like that. And so, but Demons Amongst is my first foray into the paranormal slash horror genre.

Starting point is 00:09:42 And it went to number one shortly after it's released on Amazon. And you can find that Demons Among Us on Amazon. Right now it's in Kindle and paperback. And I will have the audio book version, which is in editing right now in the next few weeks. And you can find me on social media on Instagram at M.R.R.Gorga and on Facebook at MR. Gorga. So, so, so the Demons Among Us is a book about real-life

Starting point is 00:10:17 stories from the paranormal. What made you want to write this book? Well, it came after, the reason why I wrote this book was to really alert the sound the alarm to people really about the dark forces that are working and operating and functioning all around us that you may not even be aware of. And so what Demons Among Us does is it's not only a book about real creepy stories, which the book does really well, historical and personal accounts that have really happened to me, but what it does is it rips the veil off the paranormal to really show what's happening behind the scenes. And what I think this book does probably, it does really well, probably the most of what I've seen

Starting point is 00:11:09 in the paranormal realm, is it actually shows you how these dark forces operate, how they function, their mechanisms, and how they influence society to really further their agendas and their sinister nefarious plants. It's so interesting man, right? The whole, like, what is really going on in this world, this realm, this this round ball, this flat earth, whatever you want to believe in. What is really going on? How deep are the layers and what do they represent? And you know, last night when I was showering and talking to myself, which is a big part of my life,

Starting point is 00:11:55 people are like, how do you have 90 podcasts? Well, I just talk to myself constantly. My children bust me all the time, they just stare at me. They're like, we got a real wild one here, you know. And I was just kind of thinking about the power structure of everything and about how at the top is the source. And then there's, I think there's a lot of middle managers, and then assistant managers out there are like all these other deities that are behind the scenes, Molo and and Bath, and th and th.. and th. and th. and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and tham, and tham, and th, and th, and tham, and tham, and tham, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and tham, and th, and the their, and their, and the their, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, the th, the th, they., they. And, they. And, they-a, thi. And, the, the thin, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, and, and, and, and, and they, these other deities that are behind the scenes, MoLock and and Bathman and all that stuff. And then below them there's like more of like just the demons that we hear all the time and that's really what I do

Starting point is 00:12:35 believe is happening all around us at all the time that that wherever we are right now there is a battle between light and dark and they're constantly going at each other and they're at war for just just control of this realm. What do you think about that? I think you're really right on point. I mean, they are in control of this realm and they're not only for that it is a battle for souls. People like you, people like me, people like all your listeners. And so, and I mean, I think you're spot on

Starting point is 00:13:12 because when you talk about how it functions in society, if you can look at demons or dark forces and demonic entities, if you can look at it, think about it in the realm of influencer marketing, right? Now, if I, and we all know what influencer marketing is, we take someone people in influential positions, right? And we shoot our ideas into them and then they, you know, or products or whatever, and we, we dispel it out to our audiences, right?

Starting point is 00:13:47 And so, so what happens is, is if I was a smart demon or smart devil, who would I go after, well, I would go after heads of state. I would go, I would speak my ideologies into their brains and whisper that into their dreams. I would, uh, you know, I would motivate their, you know, I would, I, I, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would their, I would, I would their, I would, I would, I would their, I would their, I would, I would, I would, their, I would to their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their into their brains and whisper that into their dreams. I would, you know, I would motivate their, you know, I would motivate their, their agendas with my agenda. And I would, I go after heads of states. I go after rock stars. I would go after heads of business.

Starting point is 00:14:20 I would go after all of the, all the important people with my evil plots and plans, this way they can sort of disseminate my evil structure into the system by influential, evil influential marketing in a sense, if you want to look at it like that. I completely agree, and now you make me hate the term influence her even more. Well Well I didn't mean to do that. I was trying to give a really good example of how it does really happen. Yeah, really operates. And some of the demonic influencers are just actually Instagram influencers. Yeah, I mean they really are like someone goes, you know, social media influencer. I'm like you are a demon. You really are a demon. And your job is... Well, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I, yeah, I, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, the, the, I mean, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Well, I th. Well, I the, I the, I the, I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I don't thi, I don't thi. I don't thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I media influence here. I'm like, you are a demon. You really are a demon. And your job is-

Starting point is 00:15:07 Well, the thing is, what's so subtle about this stuff, though, is that people don't really understand that they're being used or that they're actually under the influences of spiritual and demonic entities. They just think they're doing their thing, they have no idea. So a lot of people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people thiiiii thi thi thi thi, thi. their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe, thi. thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, th. their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th. th. th. thin. th. th. thooooooooooooo. th. the. the. th. th.they're doing their thing, they have no idea. So a lot of people just do this stuff like unbeknownst to them. And then there are those who know at a high level what they're doing. They actually really do sacrifice to demons for power.

Starting point is 00:15:34 But most of the people are just kind of like just playing they don't know. And they're just doing their things they're doing their thing when actuality they're actually propagating demonic ideologies and beyond demonic ideas into society. I completely agree with that and you know there's a there's two things I want to ask you real quick well I want to make a statement that I want to ask you something so a lot of these people, they don't realize, like the best useful idiots are the ones that don't know they're useful idiots, right? And they're just being pushed forward and they're like, oh my god, everything's working out. Like, oh my god, I got a million followers on this and a million

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Starting point is 00:19:07 And we thank Blu Chu for sponsoring this podcast. So my question to you is this, do you think you could sell your soul? Because I don't think you can sell your soul. I don't think your soul is for you to sell. But I think what when you go through that motion, it just basically sends a message that you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, and, and, and, and, and, thin, thin, and, thin, and, and, think, thin, and, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th....... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thank, thank, thank, thank, thank, thank, go through that motion, it just basically sends a message that you're, you know, you're willing to tango, you're looking for certain kind of energy, and you're willing to play ball with certain energies as well. I don't think you could sell your soul. I don't think your soul is for you to sell.

Starting point is 00:19:40 I don't think these meat suits are us. I think our spirit is part of the universe and our thoughts are, we can't, we aren't, we aren't our body, our body is not us and I don't think we can sell our souls. What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think, well, we are spirit creatures inside. And you know, this big, what you see here is just all wrapper for what's an

Starting point is 00:20:05 eternal thing that's inside of you right so you are an eternal spirit you're going to live on forever never and ever in in some you know in some dimension right so I think that you can be deceived into thinking that you sold your soul right because we talk about these dark forces and the dark entities you got your soul, right? Because we talk about these dark forces and the dark entities. You got to understand what they are and these are deceitful spirits and very, very, very cunning into in ways that you don't even think that they're that you would even know that you're being deceived, right? And so, and so they're very, very skilled in deceiving and manipulating.

Starting point is 00:20:49 And so they, I think they can deceive you into thinking that you can sell your soul, but you can't contractually sell your soul. I mean, you can be, even if you did, even if you went deep into the demonic realm, you could be brought back out because it's not, your soul is not his to have. Yeah. It's so you, but I mean, can you still, like you know how people cut their fingers and then they sign something off? Can you, is that still selling your soul in a weird kind of way? I think you think that's the effect is the same? If you think it's sold? Yeah,. Yeah, yeah, then, then, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the th. the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the effect is the same. If you think it's sold, then it effectively is. But I don't think you could be like, what I think happens is you sell your soul, this stuff happens. It's a bit of brainwashing.

Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, I think a brainwashing happens. There are entities that are constantly battling and... You're like tuning to their frequency, right? And they have ways of, they're connected, right? And they can position and help you fast-track certain things. That's my opinion. It's like Scientology. And when you go, when you die, right? You, you go get judged. And if you're like, Dick Ch, right, you go get judged and if you're like Dick Cheney,

Starting point is 00:22:09 you're going to come back and like be the chicken at the donkey show in Tijuana. Like that's, that's how it goes. And then you got to work your way back up. That's just my humble opinion. And again, like, you know, there is a some I believe. We truly do not know what God is. We're not meant to know what God is because these sumo meat suits that they make us wear, right, that these things are purposely meant to limit our ability to understand the true nature of a lot of things. So that's my opinion.

Starting point is 00:22:41 That's my opinion. Yeah, well, there's a story, there's a, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story, there's a story. . So that's my opinion. That's my opinion. Yeah. Well, there's a story in the book in his chapter two. It's called American Demoniac. It really is an astounding story of the first fully documented eyewitness account of demonic possession in American history. And this girl, the idea was, the mystery behind it was did she make a bargain with the devil? Did she sign the devil's contract or did she not? Right? And so that was that was one of the mysteries into this into why these things and these strange incidences started happening to the 16-year-old made of a preacher in that story. And but that was, again, I think that, I think thi, I think that's, I, I the, I the the the devil, I the devil, I the devil, I the devil, I the the, I the the the the the the, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, did the devil, did the devil, did the devil, did the devil, did the devil, did the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, I the devil, I the devil, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I'm, I-in, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I the. the. s and these strange incidences started happening to the 16 year old made of a preacher in that story.

Starting point is 00:23:27 And but that was again I think that's there's an element of deception as to these forces or the devil and the devil or dark forces make you believe that you sold your soul to the devil whether it be for wealth or power or fame or things of that nature. I honestly think that he tricks them into believing that, well, you're mine, you know, I own you now because I've given you this fame or I've given you this power or, you know, and so I think that he has them believed that they're under a false sense of ownership. And I do think that you can know who God is because that was demonstrated in Jesus Christ and he came to be the express image of God.

Starting point is 00:24:22 He was the physical representation of God on this earth. So through him we can know God. Respect, respect on that. I totally respect that. So, so, what, okay, let's get into your personal appearance and we'll get into your personal experience with demotic entities. And then we'll get into some of the more interesting points of your book. Um, uh, what, I have, I've asked you, have you guys had paranormal experiences either,

Starting point is 00:24:53 you guys on the show? I, I've only seen you up close. That's, that, no, yeah, that's it really. Just like, glances of, I think I saw something, but nothing, nothing, I would sit there and be like hey Sam, let me be on the show and tell a story now. I look forward to that day Xavier. And then you have you have the one at the comedy store right? Yeah, yeah, I think I see stuff a lot. I think I catch things all the time where I'm like what is that? You ever like see babies and dogs just their. their things. You ever like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the, the, the, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the. Yeah, the corner of like a room and they're just like, what are you looking at dude? And they see something? I'm like, there's got, there's something there because everybody's looking at it except for the old guy who's... You have twins. Have you ever seen both your babies staring at like at the same? No? Not that I know of no. No. No. Because that'd be actually weird if both of them are like kind of looking at the same corner.

Starting point is 00:25:46 You're like, okay, now they're both looking. So something has to be there. Ninja looks more than the ghost. A ninja always sees things. Yeah, I could always see ninja staring at stuff, which is kind of interesting. So yeah, I dismissed the one when you were like five and somebody did a little magic trick for you to make a... They put a ball in a hat and said, oh, it's gone now.

Starting point is 00:26:10 It's not a ball, it was a cologne truck. Okay, much different. Okay, much different. A cologne truck. Yeah, they used to have'd be like poop poop and you'd be like bang bang right a little bit That's a magic something like that Yeah, so magic trick she bought from like Walmart for 10 bucks That was the demon of Cologne tricks. What's that that was the demon of Cologne tricks. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, there we go. So what was your first experience with the first? Oh, so, the first one as a as a kid? Yeah, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi thi. th. th. Something like th. Something like th. Something like th. Yeah, so like th. Yeah, so like th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi thi thi. So, something thi thi. So, so the thi as a kid, it happened. I was living in New Jersey, I was a young kid at the time, and we had two-story house, and so my sisters were downstairs,

Starting point is 00:26:59 were playing downstairs in the laundry room, which was down there, and I was sitting on the steps at the time, and all of a sudden, my sister starts screaming because this white, large, white-gloved hand came out of the laundry room to grab them, so they came, and they came like bolting up, screaming up the stairwell, you know, and then, you know, my parents came down and was like, well, you know, there's, you know, there there's, there there there there there there there there's, there's, there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there there's, there's, there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, there's, you there's, you there, you there, you there, you there, you there, you there, you there, you there, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, you there's, there's, you there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there there's, there's, there there there there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, up the, bolting up, screaming up the stairwell, you know, and then, you know, my parents came down and was like, well, you know, there's nothing here and da da da da, but to this day, we all believe that this was like a very, you know, a paranormal experience.

Starting point is 00:27:39 It's not every day you see a, you know, a white hand come out out of my hat's all messed up you see you know you see a white glove hand come out of the the the closet with a laundry room you know and then I'm trying to adjust my hat here I'm sorry don't worry about the hat's great the first thing I know it's like this guy solves mysteries and so the that you the try and so the you see the the you you see you you you you you you you you you you th you see th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you see you see you see you see you see the you see you see you see you see you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thrying to adjust my hat here. I'm sorry. Dude, don't worry about it. The first thing I know, it's like, this guy solves mysteries. Um, and so the, the other time was when I became an adult. And I had just became, um, a, hold on, before we moved to that, hold on, hold on. He told us a story and that we're already moving to another short. Okay, so so so so so th so th. So, th. Oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, the other, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, they. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. Uh, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thooooooooooo. Yeah, the the the the the the other, the other. Uh, the other. Uh, they're already moving to another short okay okay so you want to do you want to adjust your hat bro I think it looks fine can we all vote on

Starting point is 00:28:30 it real quick let's go let's vote I think it looks fine I agree I agree looks great bro I feel like I feel safe with you okay okay cool man that hat makes me feel safe you look good good good good thanks for all right, all right. So we have this. We have, we have, so, so where did this white, where does this hand come from? This came, we had a laundry room down in the basement. I mean, down in the second floor. And that's where we had the washer and the dryer and we were just kind of kind of, they were just playing around it. And then all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all, the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoom. thoom. they were. they were. they were. thoes. thoomerea. thoomerea. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they were. playing around it and then all of a sudden this hand just kind of large white ghostly gloved hand

Starting point is 00:29:10 it looked like comes out and tries to kind of grab my sisters. So really? Yeah. And do you and your sisters ever talk about this? Yeah, we bring that up all time. It's like every time like if we have like a, you know if we have a, uh, you, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, th, the the, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that's that, that, that, that, thus, the, th. th. Yeah, we bring that up all time. It's like every time like if we have like a you know if we have a you know a holiday or whatever every now and again it comes up it's like you remember the white hand? What? That's crazy and your sister's like oh yeah are they like? Yeah the white hand? Oh my god. That's crazy to have multiple people see it? Yeah. That to me is like, that's like confirmation to me for sure.

Starting point is 00:29:51 Maybe like a realm? Like what? Like a realm? What did you mean? Like, pulling you? I don't know, dude. Who knows what the white hands doing? Yeah, I was just this hand came out of the laundry room and... How big was it?

Starting point is 00:30:05 It was a big, well for us we were kids, so it was... So anything would have been big, but we believe that it was just big ghostly white hand. Now did it look like a demon hand or did it look like a Mickey Mouse hand? You know, like a big white gloved kind of, filmy,y white ghostly glove hand like Mickey I don't know if it looked like Ricky. What if you came down when it was doing its laundry of the ghost hand a glove? Damn I thought you guys are gone it was black when it went in white when it came out. Racist yeah no it was a crazy story that is crazy, dude.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Have you and your siblings both see that? Yeah, we all saw that. I mean, we all talk about it till this day. So it was something that had real, available, kind of impact on us as to, you know, these, these things are that are paranormal or these things that are unexplainable. It was my first introduction into that there's some weird, weird shit out there, you know? Yeah, so I for sure. Now, do you think it had anything to do with the house you lived in? Was it haunted? Did you see anything else in this house ever?

Starting point is 00:31:25 Because even though it wasn't like it wasn't a haunted house. It was actually a house that my dad and my and our family built by you know by hand. And you know they were they weren't witches or anything like that and demonic or anything like that. There were a bunch of Italians building a house. So it really wasn't it wasn't haunted. So but it was just a, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. I, I, I don't know. I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I was, it was, it was, it was, it was the the the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, it was the, I was the, I was the, I was the, I the, I the, I the the the the the the th. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I don building a house. So it really wasn't, it wasn't haunted. So, but it was just, I don't know why it would have targeted or what made it, why it would do that. Do you, did, were there any other situation, paranormal examples that happened while you were young or is that the only one forever? No, it wasn't the only one forever? I mean, oh, I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th th th I was a th th I was a th I was a were young or was that the only one forever? No it wasn't the only one forever I mean I was a kid yeah I think that was like one of the the most major incidences you know at that age

Starting point is 00:32:18 did it make a sound was it like garrh was it like or anything like that did it like make any weird Was it like, garr? Or anything like that? Did it like make any weird kind of creepy like piano? No, no, there was no sounds? No, nothing? Just a weird. Wow. When you say filmy, do you mean it?

Starting point is 00:32:38 What do you mean like, spectral? Yeah? Like, spectral? Yeah, yeah. Because when these things like, there's a they look solid but then there's there's also other parts of it where it you could see through it so it's like you know it's almost it's part body part spirit hey guys I want to tell about our friends at Lucy that's right look we're all adults here and I know some of us choose to use nicotine to relax, focus, or just unwind after a long day. Lucy is a modern oral nicotine company that makes nicotine gum, loungeriz, and lounges in jizz, okay, and pouches for adults who are

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Starting point is 00:37:00 As an adult now, who's, you know, had other experiences and educated, you know, you've educated yourself about the paranormal. What do you think what's going on there? What do you think the motivations of that entity were? Yeah, well, do you know what type of demon that is? You know, if it is a demon it was. It was, you know, what demon it was specifically, but it was, it was obviously to me, knowing what I, what I believe and what I know now, these are all sorts of demonic kind of displays, and, you know, they, they, they want to freak you out, they want to blow your mind and they want to, you know, you know, they want to put on a show and it was just some would I believe today some demon wanting to put on a show. That's just crazy. Some people think that's what UFOs are, right?

Starting point is 00:37:53 Demons? Yeah, I mean, well, I was listening to your show with Lindsay. And I was really an agreement with her on the point where you're talking about like, the UFOs, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the...... the.. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the on the point where you're talking about like the UFOs where like their entities because these entities can become anything that they want. They can shift shape, they can look like your grandmother, your dead relatives, your grandmother, and they can even take shapes of like these objects. So I believe like what we're seeing in these skies here is all a display of the demonic. It's a demonic firework show, if you will, you know? And so I believe that these things can create and become

Starting point is 00:38:32 and transform or form themselves into anything. So what we believe, I think, what we think are our UFOs are actually are demonic manifestations to confuse and to basically just blow your mind, you know? My pastor in childhood thought that. I remember. That's just all mind game. There's some, well there's some biblical basis for it too about them being able to manifest as light or something. I can't remember the... Yeah, well, yeah, with the scriptur they're talking about is that the devil themselves transforms

Starting point is 00:39:09 himself into an angel of light and so it makes, so his ministers are able to do the, you know, the same thing. And it was actually talking about like false preachers and tetersters too too too too too to to to their their their their their their their their their their their theirers too. But if the, but if these entities can transform themselves into angels of light, it's a scary thing when you actually kind of like peel away the onion and you think about that, that means that these most evil, nefarious, highly intellectual, powerful beings that have no good intent for humanity, for me or for you,

Starting point is 00:39:48 actually can masquerade in the most, the most good looking or the most innocent of looking things, but you think that it's actually, you know, like a real, like a real good angel or something really good. Oh yeah. What's the test then? I call that Vegas chicks. They're like incredibly good looking. And they got some darkness inside.

Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, man. You're like, oh my, you're so hot. And you are shady as a Yes, I mean it's that's the basic principle. You know, is there a limit test for sussing out these? You got me thinking, you know. Based on this conversation, I just think you should always do stranger danger with everything and anything you meet at any time. But you could also, I mean, if you're too skeptical you couldn't miss a genuine opportunity right to advance. If they can turn to UFOs what else can they turn into? Yeah, I mean they can turn into everything and you know it's like when people say they you know they see

Starting point is 00:40:59 their grandparents or their you know deceased children came to them and things of that nature listen they know who they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th th th th the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi try the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi deceased children came to them and things of that nature. Listen, they know who your relatives are, right? They know what their speech pattern was, they know what they smelled like, they know what they wore, and you know, and they wear. So they can, they can be, so when people say that they go to some nepremants or somebody who conjures a dead or whatever like that. And it's like, oh yeah, your grandmother's coming through and, you know, this and that. It's like no, man. It's like you're, you're consorting with demons and you're tampering with very evil things.

Starting point is 00:41:33 And your, your life at some point is going to be destroyed. So, dude. Why do people want to talk to the dead dog I don't get it man no thank you I mean if I if I lost someone especially close to me I could see that I haven't you know yet but if I mean if I lost the you know a parent because you can't love Johnny is that why you haven't lost a love one like that yeah you're incapable possibly possibly but you know if I mean I I lost someone in my immediate family I could see I can relate to that desire you can't I to I to I to I to I to I to I to I to to to to to the to the to the to the the to the to the the the the the the to the the the the the the to the the the the the to the the to the the th. the to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee of to to family I could see, I mean I can relate to that desire. You can't. I don't know. Not the Weegee Bork. No. But if like someone, you know, someone, okay. Nope. Nope. I have zero desire to be like, let me know how they're doing it.

Starting point is 00:42:19 Sorry. I don't. I just want nothing to do it. And I'll see my other side. I wouldn't seek it out to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to the the to the to the the to the the the the to the the the to relate. I to relate. I to relate. I to to relate. I to to to the desire. I the to the that. I that I that I that I their. I that I that I that I that I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the. I th. I t. I t. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. t. I can't. I tell. I t. I can't. I t. I th. I that. I the. I the. I the. I t, I just want nothing to do with it. Absolutely relate to that. And I'll see my other side. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't seek it out, you know, but I can relate to the impulse. Dude when I see a wigi board busting up, that's that's the bad signal to get the fuck out. You know what I'm saying? Okay, guys. It's a, I know it's. That's Honda. You're right. So let's get into this first documented eyewitness case of demonic possession. Because when you brought up earlier I was just thinking about like, man, imagine being like a gotthechick in like the 1600s. Like you had no chance, right?

Starting point is 00:42:56 You had like no chance. I mean, dude, they would just like, okay, we got so we're gonna see if you're drown you and if you live you're a demonem demon demon's like yeah why can we just I'll just I'll just I'll just agree I'm a demon but we don't even have CPR I mean you're dead yeah you're gone you're gone and basically if they did these these these witch hunts they literally half of Tick Tock would be gone to tk tk to' their toy tod their their their their their their their their their their toda toda'l. toda'l. today. today. today. today. today. today. they'd they'd their today. their their their today. today. their their tta their ttax. their tod their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. I I I I I I I I I today. I today. I's. I's. I'm. I's. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. tod chicks like trying to scare their parents. That's all Tick Tock is. Yeah, that's true. Right. You know back then they had a guy called the Witchmaster General. Are you saying that is a cool name dude. Yeah, oh he yeah, talk about a bankable name. This guy nailed it. I'm gonna be the Witchmaster General. So he's he self-proclaims his name as the witchmaster general and his

Starting point is 00:43:46 job was to go around and detecting witches. Oh dude, how much ass could you get? Oh you don't bow me you're a witch? Yeah, for sure. He detected thousands of them. Yeah, my divine around here. He's shot dependent on it. Any witch. Yeah, I don't know how many were real but you know thousands died because of them. Yeah it is it is crazy it is crazy to think about like what what people were put through way back in the day. Yeah you know I mean it's like just think about this dude just think about what we went through with this COVID stuff and how people, like the comedy store tried to run shows, people calling the health department telling them the running

Starting point is 00:44:31 shows, right? I mean people just snitching, oh hey, put on your mask! Now just let's go back 200 years. And now everyone's like, dude, you're a total demon. I saw you like blink your eyes like counterclockwise and I know that you're a, and dude, everyone's getting called out? It was, yeah, well we wonder how Nazism actually happened and we actually, we witnessed it first hand.

Starting point is 00:44:56 No, you're totally right, man. People can say whatever they want about that analogy, but it was 100% true. We have th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. th. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. 100% true. We had people snitching on people. It was very interesting because I forget what Stata was but they had they accidentally put out the names and numbers of everybody who had called on their neighbors and people started freaking out right? And just think about that oh dude they're having a part And like how quickly people are to do that to people. Well, I mean, you don't think back then people were snitching on each other like, hey, that girl's a witch. I see her at night.

Starting point is 00:45:32 No, no, no, no, no, no, I know that. But think about how it was still, like, it was still no social media. Right. So you legit had to go to, and there was no explaining to like how they really did it. Like now he's got COVID and the test was fake. Back then it was like you couldn't believe you couldn't test yourself. You got to kill yourself. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It just sounds fucking weird. I agree with that. It was definitely weird. I mean, I mean, we just go through just like the, the, when there was no internet versus when there,

Starting point is 00:46:07 there is internet and the permanent record. And the, like, because you have the scarlet letter. That's the only thing they had to get. They put a little scarlet letter on you. And that was it, you walked around, that was like your social media a little batch. Yeah, that was your check your your your check your check your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your check, your. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. their. the. the. the. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. Oh my God, dude. Now we do that for free. We paid it. Yeah, what is that crazy? We're like, yeah, yeah, just put a tattoo all of that. Yeah. Yeah, so they had, they had, you know, it wasn't so much like, you know, walking around with a W for a witch or anything, but like people who committed crimes, they did all kinds of, they would brand them for, for thievery.

Starting point is 00:46:45 And then they just kind of brand a tea on someone's face or their hand. And so they did crazy stuff like, social credit score. Yeah, that's literally the first social credit score. It was right there was getting a big L branded on your face. Right, right. That's crazy. So take us through this case. tha case. tha case. tha. tha. tha. tha. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the. the thi. the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their, their. their. their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. they. they're. they're. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, their. their. their. their. take us through this case. What happened in this case that makes it the first documented eyewitness case? So I'm just assuming this is the first time it was recorded, right? I mean, like, we have to believe that happened before.

Starting point is 00:47:19 It was the first time it was recorded. Right, this was a first fully documented eyewitness case in American history. And so would it happen, the interesting thing about this case, well, there are other cases and things of that nature, I'm sure. But this was the first time anyone really kind of set down and jot down things that were actually happening. So this case actually took place between the town minister of Massachusetts at the time in 1671

Starting point is 00:47:54 and his new housemaid who was actually also a congregant of the church at the time. Now you gotta understand these people live in the woods. This church at the time. Now you got to understand these people live in the woods. This is not like, you know, wide Boston or whatever. These people were, this was a tight-knit thing in the middle of a woods. It was a wilderness town. And so for some reason her father, the girl's father had had contractually were, you know, had her live as a servant at the minister's house his name was Sammy Willard.

Starting point is 00:48:34 And so what happened is a couple, sometime, a short time into her stay there, she started exhibiting some very, very strange signs. So it struck Samuel Willard as quite odd. And so what he did, and this is the interesting thing about this case, is that for 90 days, he wrote down a blow by blow in a journal, and he just started journaling everything that was happening with this girl, how, you know, how he responded, how they reacted, how they were trying to help. So he gave a 90-day journal

Starting point is 00:49:16 blow by blow of what was happening in his house and to his family. It's amazing. What were some of the things that stood out? It was, well, it was absolutely dreadful. One of the first things that had happened, she tried to commit suicide by walking into the fireplace. And so it was like, you know, so she was like, you know, this girl was under some really demonic, heavy demonic assault. So they caught her trying to, first, first, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, the, and, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, their, they, and, and, and, and, they, the, the, the, they, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, the, and, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.ea, thea, to, toea, toea, toea, was, toea, was, was, toea, was, was, they.ea, was, was, they. And, they. And, caught her trying to, first she would fall to the ground with

Starting point is 00:49:48 the seizures convulsions and then you can think about it as like maybe it was a medical thing or a thing like that, but as the story progresses, she's like, oh shit, there's really some really evil shit happening here to this girl. And so one of the incidents is it starts off as like a seizure, she starts, um, it starts, um, it starts, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th is, th is, th is, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, ta, te, te, te, te, te, te, te, tea, tease, thease, thease, thus, thus, th girl. And so one of the incidents is it starts off as like a seizure. She starts with some seizures kind of throw, getting thrown to the floor and a forcible seizure. And times she would break out into this, what Samuel called the moderate and extravagant laughter. So it's like she would start off, like it would start off small like that.

Starting point is 00:50:29 And then it would go to these seizures and then it would go to her trying to kill herself in the fire, the numerous times. And then there was a lot of seizures moments where she was frozen for days. Days. Days, yes, days. And then she'd come out of this stupor, like, you know. And she knew everything what was going on.

Starting point is 00:50:55 She said she was very, she was conscious. She knew what was happening all around her. And so, and then she would finally kind of come out of this, these events. And, you know, and he was trying to figure out, you know, what is going on here? And why is this happening to this girl? Because these things started getting very, very severe. And, you know, the things that were lasting for days, like like an animal like a dog for days days and her voice would never tire. That is crazy dude. Here's a theory they've

Starting point is 00:51:32 they've said that the Salem trials had something to do with ergot or I think that's the grain the wheat they got if you eat that it makes you hallucinate not saying that this is any of that but do you think the Salem trials had anything to do with it being a poison or you think that's just all theory because they're trying to hide the demon possessions or witchcraft. I mean I think there was a lot of things going on. Go ahead Sam. No, no, go on. I love to hear your opinion. Oh, yeah. No. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. Oh, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Oh, I th. I th. I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi th thi thi thi thin. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. T think think think think th th th thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. T th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi Salem. I think that the initial kickoff for Salem was that the minister's kids had some sort of incident or attack that I do believe that was a legitimate things where they were like coughing up. I think they were like coughing up pins and things of that nature. So I think there was like a real incident that happened with these, So I think there was like a real incident that happened with these,

Starting point is 00:52:31 the minister's children there at Salem. And then what happened was, there was an element of land rights and things of that nature were people's farms, and they wanted that land. So they accused that person of being a witch. So there's historically there is kind, there is stuff on the records about that. But historically I think that, you know, people were killed innocently. I think Giles Corey was. He was one, not one that was hanged, but he was actually under the, they put him under rocks. They kept stacking rocks on the guy. So the the the the the the the the the the the the the the guy. So the guy. So the guy. So the guy. So the guy. So the guy. So, the guy. So, the guy. So, the guy. So, there, so there, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, there, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so there, so there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there was hanged, but he was actually under the, they put him under rocks. They kept stacking rocks on the guy. Oh my God!

Starting point is 00:53:10 Yeah, until he, and he wouldn't confess because he wasn't guilty. Yeah, that's, what is his name? Giles Corey. Yeah, Giles Corey. And then there were, and then there were other people like Rebecca Nurse. She was like an eight, she was like a really old lady. I they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept they kept they kept they kept they kept they kept they kept they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, they kept, there were, and then there were other people like Rebecca Nurse. She was like an eight, she was like a really old, she was an old lady. I think she was in her 70s, maybe even 80s, I can't, I can't remember at the time, but and she was a godly, Godfaring woman. And so, and her defense is like, I'm a, I don't understand what's going on here. And they, they hunger as a witch, you know. So there was a lot. Yeah, there's a lot of things that that happened where, you know, was there a real witch somewhere?

Starting point is 00:53:58 Was there a probably, you know, but it wasn't everybody. It's unbelievable, dude. And it's just like, just think about how like snarky and like beta, you know, passive aggressive people are, and just to deal with that and how easily you could just accuse somebody of this? And then then this, them not coming up, them drowning and just be like, oh, my bad. I guess I throw. I'm not swatting. Swatting, no different than swatting. Oh yeah, you're totally right, dude.

Starting point is 00:54:33 Unbelievable, unne unbelievable. But the, the very interesting thing about this, about the sale in witch trials is that the character that I'm talking about in the book, Sammy Willers, he was actually involved with the witch trials because of this case that I talk about in the book. So he was called on and he was, he was revolutionary at the time because he was, he was very, very moderate because he he was like he was trying every way possible to outrule everything they were trying to add spectral evidence meaning that somebody's spirit can come up someone spirit came into their bedroom and they started you know

Starting point is 00:55:21 you know threatening me and pinching me and kicking me and you you know, trying to get me to serve the devil and everything. But Samuel Willard, in this book, he's very moderate and he's trying everything he can to stop the witch trials. Jesus. So that went to trial, someone said they were possessed and they try to kill someone and that went to trial, someone said they were possessed and they try to kill someone and that went to trial? That was like a defense in a way? Well yeah, I mean they started accusing people of, you know, I saw the specter of so-and-so in my bedroom. Yeah, dude, people use that stuff all the time. I mean, today it's like, oh, I'm mentally incapable of being in charge of my actions.

Starting point is 00:56:06 I mean, we see that all the time. Man, how many guys you think just wanted to divorce and was like, couldn't get it? So they said their wife was possessed. They're just like, their shade's a wedge. You're like, what? I'm sure it happened. Unbelievable. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:25 I mean, and the history behind this stuff is very, it's amazing. It's, it's, there's a sadness to it. But there's characters in there that they were just really products of their time. You know, these people weren't stupid. Samuel Willer was not a stupid man. In fact, he was Harvard educated. And the people around them at the time, the ministers themselves, these were the rock stars of the day.

Starting point is 00:56:54 And they had unbelievable power. Meaning that the courts themselves and the law, lawyers themselves or law had had them in on on their meetings to to kind of see like well what do you use what do you think here and what you know what's when what direction do you think this should go you know so they held and wielded a lot of power in the community and they were not dumb you know dumb hicks in the woods by any means in fact there there is a the there is a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their is their is their is their is their their their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is. their is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. there is. I is. I is. I there is. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their is. their their is. their power in the community. And they were not dumb, you know, dumb Hicks in the woods by any means. In fact, there was a minister by the name of Increased Mather.

Starting point is 00:57:32 In fact, at that time, and he was, he was a minister at Boston. When he died, they mourned for like over a month. What, what was his name? Increase Mather. Oh, Mather. I thought that. Increase Mather. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah, he was the father of Cotton Mather, who was actually on the, the, one of the judges in the trials. It was Sewell and Cotton Mather. And so, but these were the people on the board and that's really think that they are just products of their time. And they thought that what they were doing was the best for the community because what it was was at that early period, they really wanted to settle this land as a sort of glory of God. And this is the, this is the, this is the foundation of America. We're talking about here. So these people th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the this is the foundation of America, we're talking about here. So these people that came over from England, they came over to, because they were under persecution

Starting point is 00:58:34 from the Queen and the Catholic Church. And so when they came over, they wanted to settle a land to make it a, what they said is a beacon on a hill, and a glorious, a land for the glory of God like the earth has never seen. And so under that backdrop, these people were doing and operating under that backdrop as to really, really trying to do the best for the land. So it's like again these guys were not done they are products of their of their time but under that backdrop they may have made you know some really hard decisions because

Starting point is 00:59:18 they were trying to do the best they can. Yeah I mean we see that today we see poor people being prosecuted for crimes they didn't commit. Right. Because it's the heat. It's the the the the the the the the the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, it, it's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thea, their their their thea.a.ea. thea. thea. thea. thea, thea, the is see that today. We see poor people being prosecuted for crimes they didn't commit because it's the heat of the, it's the pulse of the times. Right. Right. Like people just, I mean like I don't know what you guys think of to make a murder, but man, I mean, I mean that guy is just like when a certain area wants, has a fucking, has you under the scope, bro, it's almost impossible. It didn't just happen to him once, it happened to him twice. Yeah, or when you get a family reputation, you know, like, oh, they're just no good, you

Starting point is 00:59:56 know. Yeah, I mean, like, dude, have you ever seen a breakdown of that family? Like everybody's registered sex offenders in that whole junkyard, dude. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's like, like, like, like, thi. thi. that's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that's, th. th. th. that's, that's, th. that's. th. that's. that's. th. that's. th. that's, thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, thatha. th. th. that whole junkyard dude. It's like super uncomfortable but so so you see this stuff and it just it just because it's like what's really happening right now with like everything with like trust the science trust the science it's trust the religion the religious people that they're extension of God they you know you can't question them that all they want to do is good and you're like well there there was that being being the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious the religious. the religious religious religious religious religious religious religious religious religious religious religious religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious the religious. the religious the religious the religious the religious the religious the religion. the religion. the religious the religious the religious the religious the religious the religious the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. the religious. their extension of God, they, you know, you can't question them, all they want to do is good, and you're like, well, they're human beings, what, you know, they have their own faults, nobody's perfect, what are they trying to do?

Starting point is 01:00:34 Clout money, women, these guys would love to be rock stars with the ladies who wouldn't, you know, and it's just the way it is, man. It's why I'm anti-capital punishment. In an idealistic world, yeah, man, you commit a crime like that, you should go to jail. I mean, you should be put to death. You take it life, you get put to death. But unfortunately, we live in a world where juries bring their own bullshit, and prosecutors want to have the better

Starting point is 01:01:05 record so they can run and you can't you get convictions of people who are innocent and I'd rather have a million guilty guys get life in prison than one innocent guy be put to death and that's so that's why I in this reality I am anti capital punishment. What about like those mass shooters like shit like like shit like that? Like shit like, like examples like that's why I in this reality I am anti capital punishment What about like those mass shooters like shit like examples like that? Do you really think we should put any tax money effort into even feeding them? Well, it's actually cheaper to keep them alive over time because all of the trial all the They spend so much time on death row anyway most of them. You might not just keep them alive. I don't care. I mean like yeah I'd rather have people

Starting point is 01:01:50 stay alive because I don't want an instant guy to be put to death. That's my opinion and we see it I mean I I make donations to organizations that try to get innocent people out of jail. I'm super I'm talking about like there's video. You can't how I the the the they they they they they they they type I type I type like I type like I type like type like I they they type like type like type like type like type like type like type like type like type like type like type like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like like like I'm like I try. I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I mean I m. I m. I mean I m. I try. I try. I try. I try. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I they they they they they they they they they they are they are they are they are they are they're they're they're they're they're they're try. I'm like like like like like. I'm like. I'm like like. I m. I m. I m. I m. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try. I try to get innocent people out of jail. I'm super, I'm talking about like there's video, if six seven people, yeah, how type of shit where there's gonna be like XG is dubbed this crime pretty obvious? Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about where it's like super obvious. No, I just, I mean, I know you're coming from, yeah, you know so. I think I wouldn't, that would violate that would that would that would that would that would like, that would like, that would that would like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that would that that that that the that the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. that's their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the. the. the. You know, so. I think that would violate equal protection. Yeah, so, and let's get into like you. Now, is your first experience, your craziest experience, or was there more like a crazier experience than the crazy white hand demon?

Starting point is 01:02:38 It definitely got crazier. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, 100%, yeah. So one of the, you want to get into the, the first time I heard the voice of evil? Yes. That would be yes. Yeah, so when did you meet Hillary Clinton? Yeah, we met her. Yes, a true witch by the way. Okay. So, so the story goes is this is a, this is a, um, the story goes? Yeah, the thi. Yeah, the thir th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the you the you the you the you you the the the you you you you you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the witch by the way. Okay. So, interesting. So the story goes is this is a, when I first became a believer in God and in Jesus Christ,

Starting point is 01:03:16 I knew absolutely nothing about prayer, I knew absolutely nothing about God, I knew absolutely nothing about Jesus. I knew absolutely nothing about Jesus. I knew nothing about, I knew nothing about nothing, right? And so I decide one of the first times, like I've actually decided to pray. I knew nothing about, I didn't know how to do it, I didn't know what I should say, no idea, right? So it was like my very, very first time ever like praying,

Starting point is 01:03:48 right? And so I guess my prayer was sort of like, I don't even know what to say kind of prayer, right? And then I'm kind of there, I'm like, I was actually on my knees and I feel this presence come into the room and it's really dark and it's really an evil thing and I feel it come up behind me behind my right ear and I know something's there but I don't want to look back and I just feel it kind of like hovering there so I scrunch my shoulders to kind of like kind of thing and uh and uh and I just feel it kind of like hovering there. So I scrunch my shoulders to kind of like, you know, get out of here kind of thing. And so and then I heard the voice speak right directly into my ear and says you might have gone to God,

Starting point is 01:04:35 but you belong to me. I'm never going to let you go. You're a mind. Damn dude. Clear as day. Clear as I'm talking to you. What was the voice? What was the quality. What the quality? The quality? The quality? The quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the quality of the the the the quality of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. things. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. ki. th. th. th. Clear as I'm talking to you. What was the voice? What was the quality of the voice? How would you describe the voice? Yes, no, and this is the funny part. Like you would think that evil sounds like a gorse and gravelly monster, right? It wasn't the case that actually soundedcely. Oh, interesting. And very calm, silvery.

Starting point is 01:05:06 Accent and accent. Accent your voice. No, no, straight up, you know, straight up English, you know. And, um, but underneath that smooth and smooth and silvery, and but underneath that smooth, silvery tone, you can sense this cunning evil. Would you say James Earl Jones type voice like... No, it wasn't she. Not that was Vader.

Starting point is 01:05:34 It wasn't Vader. It was very, very smooth and baritone in a sense. And it was very, very, very, there was a regal quality to it. Interesting. A royal quality to it. So when the Bible describes like Satan as the prince of the power of the air or the god of this age, right? There's a there's a royalty that this being has. and so that's consistent with everything we've heard about these evil

Starting point is 01:06:08 remember like the throne room thing where they go in and encounter an entity that's you know very much well put together yeah well dressed and mm-hmm that's that's consistent with everything we've heard that's so interesting. Well I mean you're not going to listen to a sloppy demon, right? Well, no, but there's another, you could imagine it being done by intimidation, right? You know what I mean? Like something that's like just damn scary? But this is kind of scary, but also, you know, like, persuasive, you know, like, theymea. Yeah, I'm sure you, like, voice for females. It's like the drug dealer getting you hooked, you know what I mean? Yeah for sure. No no man, the oxies are free you know. I enjoy that. I mean I get that dude.

Starting point is 01:06:52 Yeah I could totally I mean I don't see fat demons getting anything done. I really got to be honest with you like I don't see them like out of shape, sloppy. No it shaved in a couple millennium? You know, it's like, no, dude, I don't see that. I see you got to be good looking. So it said that to you to touch you and then what happened after that? Did you just like freak out? Did you pray harder? Yeah, it's weird.

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Starting point is 01:07:59 voices so it's like there's this power behind that voice had you done anything to court this interaction with the demonic like the th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had you to to to to to to th you to to to to to to to to to to the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. Had you done anything to court this interaction with the demonic? Like had you had you had you had you dabbled in and in the dark arts? No, what happens is the reason why I believe this happened was because I had become a believer in Jesus Christ and what happens when you do that you put a target on your back. Oh interesting. Yeah so you basically you you switch sides. So what happens is like you know you you youget on your back. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so you basically, you switch sides. So what happens is like, you know, you don't know you're under the influence of an enemy or a demon or satanic principles

Starting point is 01:08:36 or satanic ideologies, you don't know that until you come to Jesus Christ and he kind of like pulls the veil from your eyes, right? And once you switch teams from like, you know, from evil to the greatest good in the universe, well now you have an enemy against you. And this is why these attacks happen is to, is to really just kind of frustrate, harass, and stop the work that's being done in you and the work that you're able to actually do for the kingdom of God. So that is your, that's your belief on why you're being targeted and

Starting point is 01:09:26 yeah, and have you, have you been bombarded with kind of contacts from these demons? It's like when you change your address, you know, and you get all his mailers like the first week after you change your address? Oh really? That happens a lot? Really? You never change your, oh dude? You get slammed like free pizza? Here's bed, Beth and beyond 40% off. Dude they send me so much mail and I just changed my address to move a couple months. Yeah, I've always thought Bed Bath and Beyond, the Beyond is demonic for sure. That's what you're doing. That's the dark realm. You go there. You go there. Yeah, that's a good point. You're changing spiritual addresses. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. Do you get attacked in your dreams? One of my friends says he gets attacked in his dreams all the time and yeah. All time. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, there's a, you know, the and the book goes into, you know, great detail on some of like the Basically the really big, you know, the wow factor, you know, attacks, but then there's there's always always always there's there's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta. times. times. times. times. times. tri. tri. tri. times. times. times. tri. times. times. times. times. times. the the the the the the wow factor, you know, attacks, but then there's, there's always subtle, there's always subtle attacks, nighttime attacks, in the book I talk about midnight's, you know, like nighttime strangulations and choking and

Starting point is 01:10:36 biting and yeah, you have voices, evil whisperings. That sounds like a succubus. Yeah, oh yeah, and it, yeah, and it, yeah, there's a story of a succubus in there too as well. And, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there, there, there, there, there, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's there's, there's, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's, there's, there's, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's, there, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the Yeah, oh yeah, and there's a story of a succubus in there too as well. And so the reason why I actually wrote the book and what had happened was I was going through a season where I was getting attacked like nightly. Whoa. Yeah, and it was happening nightly. And at the time I was a prayer leader for a church that I go to, an innecessary prayer leader. And so, and we gathered on Thursday nights and so, and this thing was happening, I was going through like, you know, evil whisperings, midnight strangulations with like iron hands, you know, evil whisperings, midnight strangulations with like iron hands, you know, it sucked a life out of you, you can't breathe, you can't, you know, you feel like you're going to die, yeah. And so at the end we gathered in a circle and we just kind of like pray over people's

Starting point is 01:11:39 needs or whatever and I said, uh, and just by chance I was like, like, hey, is anybody experiencing any nighttime assaults, any attacks in their sleep? And then one by one, these hands started to go up, right? And it was 13 and all. And so, and that's when I realized, like, wow, all these people are under assault, right? And then I thought, well, well, how many other people are under assault, right? And then I thought afterwards, I thought, well, how many other people are under assault and they don't know, they're unguarded,

Starting point is 01:12:11 they're on, they're uneducated, and they're, they don't know what this is. And so in that, that was the backdrop of writing demons among us, is to really kind of wake people up to and alert people to the evil that's happening all around you. And to you, you might not even know that it's evil. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. You got ghosts out there choking, right?

Starting point is 01:12:36 And they're all into joking, so they don't even know they're possessed. They're just enjoying that. It's like crazy. It's so nuts to me that this, so you became religious, you are in, you consider yourself Christian. Now across like many different disciplines, I don't know if you've, a religious disciplines. I don't know if Islam believes in demons or if Judaism, what their take is.

Starting point is 01:13:07 The Gen, right? In Islam? Jin, do you? Yeah, I think it's the Jin in Islam. I think that there's a demon in every kind of religion. And the reason why I think that is because, A, demons are real and they exist outside of the realm of religion. And do like do the Jews say, believe in that Jesus is the way to get rid of these demons? Well, I mean, well, some do. Those are called Messianic Jews.

Starting point is 01:13:40 There's Jews who believe in Jesus. And then there's Jews who don't believe in Jesus. I don't they're waiting for another Messiah. I don't know who they're waiting for another Messiah. I don't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Jews. I the the Jews. I the the Jews. I the Jews. I they they're the Jews. I they're they're the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, they they the Jews, the Jews, they're the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews the Jews their their their their their their their their they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're in Jesus. And then there's Jews who don't believe in Jesus. I don't know they're waiting for another Messiah. I don't know who they're waiting for, but, yeah, I mean, there is, I'm trying to think in the Old Testament where, you know, where there's demon activity. I guess the demonic activity at the time of Noah was Nephalem. And that was, and that was what that was, was demonic beings coming down and having sex with the women

Starting point is 01:14:16 and impregnating them and creating basically a halfling race. And these became giants known as Nephalem. Yeah, 100%. 100%. And we see that story across all cultures, interdimensional beings coming and mating with American women. With women. We all know women love bad boys, so that's what... Nothing's better than a low frequency

Starting point is 01:14:46 demons, right? So it's just super interesting that we kind of look at our culture today and we see it like a lot of darkness, a lot of dark energy being put out and we, and like, especially in like our kids like music, I don't think they realize what they're singing and it's like, it's chanting and chanting and chanting over and over again, like very demonic stuff. What are your thoughts of kind of like culture right now? I, I, I, I, before he says, I don't think kids are getting scared as much as they were before. Like when I was a kid, I was scared. When the exorcist came out, six cents, these kids don't.

Starting point is 01:15:32 They're scared, but they're not like... I mean, it's... Is that good thing or a bad thing? I don't know. It's meant to be scary. It's meant to be scary. It's meant to be scary. It's meant to be scary. It's meant to be scary. It's to be scary. It's not. It's to be scary. It's not meant to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's not. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be. It's to be. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's to be. It's to be. It's to be. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. It's to be scary. to th. th. the. the. the. the. the. that's the. that's the. the. It's the. It's to. you want to sing a run. Yeah, he's talking about horror films. I'm talking about the darkness that is being pushed. Like these happy beats, these up-tempo beats, but they're singing about, you know, like crashing the car. All this. All like that one song you were talking about. It's yet, well, there's a lot of them that's just not new I mean if you go back to a there's some Pat Benita songs and you're like what are you talking about? That's

Starting point is 01:16:09 pretty much all the Pat Benitar songs like you like why you no thank you about kids and all the nastiness and stuff what's your thoughts on that M. R. Yeah I have a lot of thoughts on that because let me let me just tell you I don't know how much you know th th you know you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th th th th to know th to know to know to know to know th to know to know to know about about about about about about about about to know to to know to know to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thou. to to the. to to the. the. to the. the. the. the. th because let me let me just tell you I don't know how much you know about Lucifer or Satan. I've heard of him before my reputation. They recognize the name right? Yeah. Well before his fall in heaven before he was cast out of heaven what he let a rebellion against God because he wanted to overtake the throne of God, right? So there was a rebellion in heaven,

Starting point is 01:16:50 and for that rebellion, he was kicked out of heaven. But what his role was, or one of his roles was, is that he was thought to be the music minister of all of heaven. The music minister? The music minister of all of him. Right. So and the reason why people believe this is because, now let me first let me just spell like a myth. The devil is not running around and red tights with a pitchfork.

Starting point is 01:17:22 He's not in hell. That's going to be his sentence, his jail sentence, his death sentence. So he's not ruling hell. He's not a red man in pitch, in tights, and he's not a horned monster, right? He was the most beautiful being God had ever created. The most beautiful. And what the Bible says is that this being was formed with all kinds of jewels, diamond, gold, barrel, turquoise, ruby, sapphire. Everything of all these shimmering jewels were built into his body. So he was this shimmering, so in the light of God, all these jewels would shimmer and flash in fact

Starting point is 01:18:08 That's why they called him white bear white bear was his name light light light bear okay And so um and so and inside his along with all of these jewels built into his form were musical instruments. It was with pipes and timbrels, meaning these are musical instruments. So when Lucifer moved, he was music. So he didn't create music. He was music. And so what you have now is this fallen being

Starting point is 01:18:45 who is the master of music, a heavenly maestro and all of heaven sang the devil's songs by the way. So when, so when, so when Lucifer fell and was cast out of heaven, he basically his name, Satan is a title, it means deceiver. He was a te. Lucifer was his name. Satan is a title. It means deceiver, adversary.

Starting point is 01:19:10 And so, so now what you have is this being who rules, very musical, who exists in the world, who I believe influences the music I It sounds to me like he's the original DJ Right he's a rock star. Yeah, and that he was just DJing in heaven and just got really cocky and uh Yeah, got dealt with you know, it's it's super interesting that that that know? It's super interesting. That whole, it's like such an interesting dynamic

Starting point is 01:19:50 of who Luzfer was and is and what it says in the Bible and what it actually represents. There's many people who have different thoughts on that, but there's definitely like, there's definitely dark energy at work, dark entities all around us. And you know Hollywood loves to tell us about you know how things actually work and you know there's a scene in the movie Lost Boys which I can't believe they haven't remade. And it's basically where the head vampire has to be let in and I think that's a big thing

Starting point is 01:20:24 with a lot of these dark entities like you have to let let in and I think that's a big thing with a lot of these dark entities like you have to let them in and that could be part of the quote quote-quote selling of your soul is to be that you let these entities in and they change your frequency and because of that change frequency you attract certain people and you may actually attract very successful people in this Babylonian Hollywood system that are also, you know, putting out the same energy and you know, and who you attract and all, you know, energies attract each other. And certain energies attract certain people. Yeah, I mean, you definitely would, um, there are many ways for them to be like allowed in.

Starting point is 01:21:09 Now someone under the influence and say like under demonic influence or whatever and you say and you say them say if you want to drive it out and the demon would say, well, I belong here. This is, this is my home. I was allowed in, right? And there are would say, well, I belong here. This is my home. I was allowed in. Right? And there are many ways for it to be allowed in. And we talk about how they get in is through occultic practices.

Starting point is 01:21:36 They get in through, you know, weegies and taros and conjuring the dead and spells. And so these are all kind of like inroads into an individual's life and spirit. And also, they come in through like trauma and many other roads that they can use to like infiltrate your life. Like I talk in the book about spirits that people don't even realize that they are under spirits, like there's spirits of suicide, there's spirits of depression and spirits of fear. And so I talk about these various spirits of the book because people might be under these influences and not even know it.

Starting point is 01:22:27 I didn't think Tara was like an opening to like a realm. Yeah, the occultic practices are all like one tree. You know, they're all branches to one tree. Real common too, the whole terror there everywhere. I think, you know, there's a lot of people have different views on all this. Some people, some people think that terror is part of astrology, that's very deep ancient philosophies. You know, some people think Satan is just a playoff of the Saturn worshiping, which is black cube, darkness.

Starting point is 01:23:00 You know, again, I think God is all-powerful. I have a real, I try to connect with God all the time. I like Jesus. I do. I'm a Jesus guy. I'm a Jesus guy. That's good. Like him.

Starting point is 01:23:20 Don't love him. I love him. What do I got to do? Get it on the record, Johnny. I love him, huh? I love him. What do I got to do? Get it on the record, Johnny, I love Jesus. You might need this later. Okay. I don't, why? In the judgment? You know, you want to be on the record? You know, you want to be on the record? You know, I've been baptized. Johnny loves Jesus. I was dunked. I'm on the record. I've never heard you talked. I've been baptized. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny loves. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. Johnny. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. J. I. J. J. J. J. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th.'m on the record. Half of XG's family's name Jesus, okay? So, I mean, it's all working out there. I'm covered.

Starting point is 01:23:49 I don't have to love him like I might have their in my family. Yeah, I'm related to him. I do, I think, I think, I think, I just feel that like, there are entities of light, entities of darkness, and people, there's so much, I mean I'm going to be honestly, I think these computers have darkness to them and what they represent. Your certainly doesn't. Okay, Johnny, that's very rude. I thought we were friends. Sure. It's a Christian podcast.

Starting point is 01:24:16 This is a, you know, and we've had guests on who talk about what the computer represents, what does AI represent. A lot of people think AI represents the devil and trying to get all that out and like, you know what, you know, you hear Google, like Google's talk to the old ones and all these entities that like, hey, I, every day I get somebody, hey, dude, they're turning CERN back on July 5. I'm like, what do you guys, what do you guys, what th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, thi, that, thi, that, thi, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t, t, t, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, that, that, that, that, tha. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try, what do you guys send me an invite to this whole thing? Like what am I supposed to do with that? Yeah, and that creepy video, that woman, right? Like we're going to put more energy in this thing than we ever have, get ready. Yeah, it's so creepy, dude, and the six, six six with that and everything, and it don't know the answer to everything. I just know when I do certain things, my life goes better when I help others, I give to others. I watch the words that I put out. I'm very, very conscious of what I'm saying and when I'm speaking into the universe.

Starting point is 01:25:21 I control, I love thy neighbor, and I do it with discipline. These are the things that help me be a better person and stay into the light instead of going into the darkness. Now, I personally think that we all have a darkness with us and I think people think they can just get rid of their darkness. I think you're, I think I personally just think can just get rid of their darkness. I think you're, I think I personally just think darkness is a yin and yang of all of us. It's original sin, right?

Starting point is 01:25:53 And that's just my humble opinion, but I don't know. I mean, what are your thoughts on all that? I mean, I mean, do you, I,, you just strictly Christian or is there some Christian mysticism that you look into? Because I, I think there are things that when organized religion, when, when the, when the Catholic Church came in and just super organized the religion, certain parts of Christianity were kind of pushed aside, thrown away, that make Christianity a lot more into the supernatural, right? They limited it.

Starting point is 01:26:36 They did, and I think all that is, I think that's the same thing it was done with science. Do you read the apocrypha, M.R., like Like, I mean, the apocryphal text? No, not really. I've probably come across, I don't give it much time. I consider myself a follower of Jesus, mainly. Christianity to me, there's a lot of, there's a lot of foolery. There's a lot of fakery. I know there is a you know a lot of fakery I got what you're saying you're not necessarily part of one discipline

Starting point is 01:27:10 but you're more yeah and I have a friend of mine that's he's been on the show before El Gerardo and he he is the same way he says he practices the the the discipline the practice of Jesus and not necessarily organized religion so I totally the totall that that thate th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that you're you're you you you you the the the the the you the the the the the you you the the th. th the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the practice of Jesus, and not necessarily organized religion. So I totally respect that and understand that. Where do you stand with exorcisms? Um, well, they're real. Yeah, but like, uh, do you need a priest to take them out? All right, so what about exorcisms? Well, first of all, well, exorcisms are real, are real. These demonic entities actually do enter a person's body in a form and they they take over their physical physical body. And

Starting point is 01:27:59 the question was, do I need a priest to cast them out? And the answer is, contrary to Hollywood and film and everything like that, the answer is no, you do not need a priest to cast them out. In fact, it was Jesus in the Bible, he says, I give you power over, over every, I give you power over all the power of the enemy to trample on snakes and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy meaning the enemy being satanic forces so all you need to do is be a believer and all you need to do is call on the name of Jesus Christ and you will be able to

Starting point is 01:28:43 to pass out these demonic things. Now some might not go so easily, but Jesus himself said, I give you the authority to do this in my name. And it's a powerful, powerful thing that he's handed over to humanity to be able to do. But I do not recommend people to do it if you are not a believer because there's an episode in the Bible that talks about someone who tried to do that and said in the name of Jesus whom Paul preaches, meaning we don't believe it, but Paul preaches it so we're going to try this out. Well, these guys got their, is it called the Sons of Sceiva, Sceiva. These guys got their asses, their ass asks, their their their their their tors, tors, tors, tors, tors, torn, torn, torn torn torn torn torn torn their their asses torn to ribbons by demons for doing that. But Jesus affords us and gives us a real power over these dark forces and dark entities in his name.

Starting point is 01:29:38 So interesting. So what if I don't believe in Jesus I call his name? I use his name. I'm in trouble? You could be. I mean this happened in the Bible. I believe in Jesus. He says, they says Paul, Paul I know and Jesus I know. Who the hell are you? And then they just kick their ass. Whoa, I bet you Jesus can, well but some ass dude. Oh yeah, dude. Some demons, some demons. I bet you Jesus invented Croft and God, that's the story. I knew this was gonna cook.

Starting point is 01:30:12 He's Jewish, dude. Why couldn't he kill with his hands? What's that? Why couldn't Jesus kill with his hands? Why couldn't he go out there and just drop the shit too. But he was... He said it. He said it. He was, I wish I can call down fire on you motherfuckers right now. Well, he didn't say that. I wish I could call down fire on you right now. I just wish it was some like... I'm on a mission.

Starting point is 01:30:33 I'm a blupers of Jesus. He was just like swearing and yelling at people. All right, let's take it from the top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top top. Thomas, oh Jesus, that's not Jesus. I don't believe you, Jesus. Oh, touch the wound again. That was Johnny that said that, not me, I believe him. No, that was doing Thomas. Okay, I'm trying to counsel Blackface Jesus. Um, so let's, uh, what surprised you the most?

Starting point is 01:30:56 So let's, uh, what surprised you the most? So let's, uh, what surprised you the most the most the most the most the most the most the most most most the most the most most the most most most the most most most the most most the most the most the most most most the most the most the most the most the most the most most the most the most the most the most the most that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that.. that. that. that's that. that. that's that. that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. What surprised you the most? Oh just the response I think was staggering because you know when you're writing something like this you think and you're really thinking like oh man they're gonna think I'm absolutely bat shit crazy for writing this stuff right? But in fact it was just the the opposite was that it the so the book goes to number one on Amazon, and that was like, I think of, in June, last June, I think it was, I can't remember, but it went to, it did go to number one. And what it did was, it was quite the opposite. It was people coming out in the woodwork and saying, well, I've had these experiences too.

Starting point is 01:31:43 I've had this experiences too. I've had this happen to me and I've had that that happened to me. You know so some of the responses to this book were so absolutely absolutely shocking to me because you know when you're putting something like this together you don't know what's going to happen you know and then you have someone like George Norrie say well this this book is going to be a classic. well it's like you know wow you the the response you the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response the response you the response you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the response, you the response, you the the the the the the the the the the the responses, you the the the response the response the response the response the response the response, you the response, you the response, you the response, you, you, you the response, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you know, you're, you're, you're, you know, you, you, you're, you know, you, you, you know,this book is going to be a classic. Well, it's like, you know, wow, the response to this, you know, to this work has just been absolutely phenomenal and overwhelming, personally, and it's, you know, I have people who reach out to me and say it changed my life. I didn't know I was going to have, come to Jesus moment. I. I. I. I. I. I. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. It this. It th. It th. It th. It th. It's. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to thee won't thooooooooooooooo. the. the., I didn't know I was gonna have a come to Jesus moment. I had no idea, this is what was happening.

Starting point is 01:32:31 And so when some people, the light is coming on. And then, and you know, when I write a book like this, you're not making friends. So I get the other people who are like, you know, you're biggited asshole and all this kind of stuff., so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that, that that that, that that, that that, that that that that that that thi, thi, thi, thi, who are like, you know, you're bigoted asshole and you know and all this kind of stuff. So, but whatever. And so the response. Why would they think you're bigoted? I don't know. I'm just trying to, I'm just the messenger man. What was it like some social justice warrior organization, defense demons? Yeah, I get these people from time to time and it was just like, you know, he writes, he writes, like, like, like, like, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th, this, this, this, this, this, this, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, th, and all, and all this, and all this, and all this, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, th kind, th kind, th kind, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi's thi's this kind, this kind this kind this kind thi's kind thi's kind thi kind of all all all thi kind thi kind thi, thi, thi from time to time and it was just like you know he writes with this cotton

Starting point is 01:33:09 Mather like ego and I'm like well cotton Mather was a great man. Did you have a non-binary demon in there? Yeah I think that was it. They want to be loved they're misunderstood. They are genderless right. Yeah they are they are they's. Yeah they all genders there's no genders and all gender are they genderless it's something like that right am i'm the masculine and feminine yeah but I don't know exactly but I know that the Bible says that there'll be no therethere'll be no, what was it like, marriage in heaven where it's like female or male.

Starting point is 01:33:50 So I think that there was a masculine and a feminine, feminine identity to these things, and they can kind of play them for their, whatever their purposes. If they're trying to deceive a woman, it'll be, you know, it might be a woman. But yet, much of heaven is masculine. It's masculine. God the father is masculine. God created masculinity. And, you know, I'm opposed to all the stuff that's going on to lessen the masculinity that got created and given to men.

Starting point is 01:34:27 And so it's everything is out. There's a demonic entity out there to feminize men. And you can read about it in the book. I have one, something you touched on briefly earlier that I just wanted to get back to. You mentioned Hillary was an actual practicing witch, and I would love to hear about that, thi., thi back to. You mentioned Hillary was an actual practicing witch and I would love to hear about that just briefly if you can. I'm not in there on her you know on her on her things I just received things. Whoa tell us more. Please yeah yeah let's hear it. We're all about that action.

Starting point is 01:35:09 Well, when you, you know, when God shows you things, you know, and it's like, you know, you'll gain insight into people and he'll, you know, the secrets of the Lord, you know, the God has secrets, you know, he shares with those who, you know, who seek him. Yeah. Okay. Damn. Okay. Okay. I want to know. I want to hear more.

Starting point is 01:35:32 If it had to be anybody, it would be Hillary. How do we get on that list for the secret? Well, you got to believe, Johnny. I haven't been given any secret. Johnny, I've never heard you get spiritual in here, dude. It's not, it's not in your business. What my spirit? Why dude if you love Jesus you should be too? I know but I I you know I'm not doing the talking. Dude yeah Hillary is definitely dark arts man for sure. Oh yeah I mean you've heard it. Yeah I mean you've heard about that stuff right all the frazzle pop stuff. Oh yeah, now you're gonna roll his eyes you don't know. No, no, I'm just like now we're going there. Yeah, we are going there Johnny. Listen, listen, I'm gonna fight everybody right now.

Starting point is 01:36:09 Is your computer possessed? Yeah, yeah, my computer's possessed. Um, who, if you had to go, who is the most possessed person out there? If you think there's a, like, real, like, dark possessions. And you don't have to go that deep, we just want tho, tho, tho, to just want to just want th. to just want th. to th. to to th. to th. to th. th. th. th. to to th. to th know who you think whoever's handling Biden whoa who do you think that is some people think it's Obama I think yeah it could be I don't know there's a machine Mike Obama might be Michael Obama I don't know you know you know hey do you think that do you think that do you think that there's a lot of women in Hollywood that are actually trans do you think? th? th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thin? thin? thi thin? thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin who thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th in th in th in th in th in th in th in thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to thi to thi thi thi thi they thi they thi thi thi do you think that, do you think that there's a lot of women in Hollywood that are actually trans? Do you think that? Do I think there's women in Hollywood? Like all these famous women? It's like, what, half a percent of the four percent of homosexual, sexual, uh, the LGBT spectrum, right it really is crazy but the

Starting point is 01:37:06 people behind that are yeah so it's a again I think these are are ideologies that are birthed in in demonic places and they're driven through a society that's deceived. Yeah, man. Yeah, do you, let me ask you, this is gonna be a crazy question. Do you believe in reincarnation? No, because the Bible says it's appointed for man to die once and then face the judgment. Interesting, interesting.

Starting point is 01:37:41 Meaning that we don't come back, we have to stand and give an account for the things that we've done in the body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body body the body the body the body to the body to to the body to the to the to the to the the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to the things that we've done in the body to the creator of heaven and earth. You know how the books called Demon Among Us? That's how I feel like with, especially during like the homeless situation, I feel like they're just among us everywhere. I think, I think that it is done purposely to purposefully to promote certain people who act certain ways to project a certain view of the world on people and I mean like you can just watch I mean like you, we've had guests on before, Christopher Knowles, who's talked about algorithms and Algo,

Starting point is 01:38:30 which is the demon star, which, you know, and dude, people's algorithms lie to them. I was, I mean, I was, a, uh, bounce, a trampoline park with my kids and dude if you would see people walk around fully masked with babies fully masked and there's no data out there that says that that child is in any kind of danger from this thing and we can get that's a whole different discussion because I don't believe in any of it but there there's no danger there I know I know I know you don't listen to the radio but now I swear to God I'll kill everybody okay go I know you don't listen radio about five and under now can

Starting point is 01:39:16 get vaccinated and the demons that are doing that my friend is like my friend she has a baby It hasn't been five years. COVID hasn't even been around for five years. So how do you know it's not going to affect the five year old? She I just can't get I wanted to call her and be like don't do it but it looked like she'd already done it and I just I just Everybody's on their own path man. And I can't control it. Um wow, this has been a great episode. Thank you so much our? the the the the the their, th, th, th, th, to th. to to to to th. to th. to th. to th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. to the. to to to thi. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. the. the. this has been a great episode. Thank you so much, MR. We really do appreciate you come out and show. One more time, can you please tell our listeners where they can find you and where they can find your book? Yes, well, you can find Demons Among Us.

Starting point is 01:39:59 It's a number one bestseller, you can find that on Amazon right now in print and in digital formats. And soon I'll have the audio book up soon, a couple weeks, next couple weeks. And you can find me online at on Instagram at M.R.Gorga and on Facebook at mr gorga all right am i'm r you came you saw you drop the hammer the gods on us we really do appreciate that and guys if you guys enjoyed this episode please uh... you know like subscribe uh tell your friends leave us a five-star review that be a really nice we could use it. And I hope to see you guys. I mean, damn, I got some, Coast of Mesa,

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