Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #587: Crime Culture And The Prison Industrial Complex with Big Herc916

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hat. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Half. We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. Aaron, open your mind.

Starting point is 00:00:28 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just blew my mind. Good! Morning swarm and welcome to get your mind blown? Good! Barney Swarm and welcome to Tim Fall Hat.

Starting point is 00:00:49 You know I am? You know what I'm here to do? I'm here to the Roe. Roe. Join me as always, Xavier Guerrero, who loves the Toronto Raptors. And Jay-Nice-Jaheigh-Jah-Jah-Jahe-Jah-Iah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-Jah-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-noyu-noyu-noyu-noyu-noyu-noyah-noyah-n-n-n-noyu-noynoy-n-n-n-n-n-n-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-ni-noynoynoynoynoynoynoynoyu. to-n single one of them. I just can't pick because they're all just also great. The black guy. The black guy. Respect on that.

Starting point is 00:01:11 Respect on that. Great show today, dude. We got Big Herk. He's got a great podcast, great YouTube channel called Fresh Out. And he's got a couple YouTube channels right. freshly out and we get into fresh out excuse me fresh out with Big Hurt and he's got a couple YouTube channels right he's got another one as well and we get into the one of my favorites of the year prison industrial complex culture that's what we get into and it's a wonderful conversation we go

Starting point is 00:01:37 really deep and you know it's more dangerous conversations that we have here on Tim Fall Hat so I hope you guys are enjoying it. We take chances here, we push it out. We're not making everybody happy, but that's okay. That dude has no fear though. He doesn't, he doesn't care. That guy has no fear. He's done everything. And it's important to talk to him about that. And I also think it's also important to understand that. You know, when you're you, you, you, you, you, th you, th th th th th th th th th th thi, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when thi, when thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, you make mistakes. Don't let them define you. Because you, like everybody goes through it, dude. Everybody gets put through the grinder, man. And like how you react to the grinder, like if you sit there and you just, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:15 it's basically the old notion that, you know, the old saying insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Like if you the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, threat, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, threat, threat, threat, threats, threats, threats, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Like if you don't understand the actions of your, the consequences of your actions and how you have to change your actions, you're just going to keep doing the same shit over and over again. And he's a great example. The guy's a three-time felon. And now he's like going out there to talking to people, tel him about the mistakes he made, I think it's super duper important because we all make mistakes and we all have some

Starting point is 00:02:46 dark secrets out there and your dark secrets are going to get out. You better to own it, take control of it and not let it define you because I think that's a big part of our culture right now. Everyone's getting defined by their darkest moments. Guys we've got a great show for your story. So I hope you enjoy. If you want to see me live, I got some live shows coming up. I'm going to be in Morris Plains this Friday and Saturday.

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Starting point is 00:04:44 He does not want believe anything about Hunter Biden or Joe Biden. Oh my god. Nice, do you things those are deep fakes? He, he, first of all he feels bad for Hunter Biden that he's a crackhead and then we should make fun of him and that how do we know he's doing all this shady shit? I'm like, dude, like he's getting busted left and right. So it's th. And it's th. And it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the the thi. th. th. th. the the the the thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's they. He's th. He's th. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. He's the th. He's th. He's th. He's the the th. He's the the th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's like, th. thin. th. theean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thin. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's like dude, like he's getting busted left and right. So it's a great conversation and it's what every debate show should be between two binary men. Just two dudes screaming each other and then we hug at the end and that's what should be. Very binary. You should be very okay with having people in your life you don't agree with. I think you get in the dangerous places

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Starting point is 00:06:52 You can listen to us 24-7 on the show. Just turn on and you'll hear different shows over different times. guii thi the piziziziziziziziziziziziziz. the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thin, I'm thi, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm the, I thi, I thi, I th, I I th, I I th, I I I I I I th, I I I I I I, I I I I I, I I, I I I, I I, I I, I I, I I I, I, I I I, I, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm to to thin, I'm to ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta. ta. ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, I'm thin, I'm thin of Big Herc. It's a great one. Breaks down basically the prison industrial complex culture. Enjoy the show. We go deep home, boy. Here, open your mic. Drink, fun the fucker. All right, guys, let's get into it. Very excited for this episode, you know, it's a little change of pace and I think it's super important.

Starting point is 00:07:26 And it's about a topic that I'm very passionate about and that is protecting the youth and deprogramming culture. I think it's very important to take a look at that because there's just a lot of people that are just brainwashed. And a lot of, you know, like we say in the show all the time, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, culture, th, that, and, and, and culture, th, that, and that, and that, and that, and that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, and it, and it, and that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, thi, th lot of, you know, like we say in the show all the time, culture is not your friend, culture is not your friend. So I'm very excited to have this next guest on. He's a motivational speaker. He's got a great YouTube channel. He's a YouTube influencer. I'm very excited to have him on. Please welcome big Herk 911-6. How are you my friend? Hey man, appreciate the intro and thank you for having me on the show. It's a long time coming and I'm excited, man.

Starting point is 00:08:10 Well, Big Herc, I am very excited to talk to you because what you want to talk about is like so important to me and that is like trying to understand like, like the powers that be, their influences on us and what's doing to to to our our our our our our our our to our our our to to our our to to our our to our our to to our to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their to to their to do to to their their their their their their their their their. their their their their their the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. the show. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. to be. th. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. their. their. their. their. the the the the show. the the the trying to understand like the powers that be their influences on us and what's doing to our children. But before we get into all that, Big Herk 916. Can you please tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? You can find me on Fresh Out YouTube or Fresh Out Series. Com. Also, Big Herk 916 YouTube, Instagram, and Big Herc 911.com.

Starting point is 00:08:51 A little bit about my background. I did, I've done over a decade in prison, man, ranging from juvenile hall to California Youth Authority to the federal pen. And, you know, so I've seen the system from the inside and I've made some pretty heavy mistakes, but I don't claim to be the victim. I don't, you know, come out and make excuses for my shortcomings. And it allowed me to change and become a better person. And it wasn't like I was a really bad person to begin with.

Starting point is 00:09:27 I had a great mom, good family, straight-aid student, BMXers, skateboarder, did all the stuff that kids do growing up. It's just at that period where I had a shift in my dynamics of where I was living growing up and that impacted me. You know, right around the time, you know, 13, 14, 15, you know, those are very impactful ages for a kid. And that's why if you see now a lot of the social media is targeting those age groups to try to influence them because you're very impressionable. And you know, kids at that age, they need both parents and they need strong parenting.

Starting point is 00:10:12 They need strong family values. And I didn't realize it until I caught my last case, 2000. Armed bank robbery, hostile takeover, man, it was a high-speed chase, cops, you know, 30-something cops, helicopters, spike strip. I ran across the freeway. I got arrested in Ventura County on the Ventura Beach, boardwalk, got on the ground and looked at the beach and that was it, man, I had an epiphemy man, I got to change my life. Yeah, go big or go home at that point.

Starting point is 00:10:47 Sounds like Grand Theftado. Damn, dude, you did live Grand Theftano at that moment. So that's kind of crazy, man. So, so this is the whole thing, man. It's like, why, a lot of times we talk about the prison system and what it is and you know we have this situation right now with Hunter Biden, that's a big problem right now. You know, filming himself, weighing his crack and all that stuff, really crazy that he does that. Really crazy that he does that.

Starting point is 00:11:21 Why do you think he, like, where does that come from? Because I mean we've all done I've done drugs and I'm not like hey can you record me doing this? You literally record your friends doing coke all the time. It's a different generation I guess. But even then it's coke it's not of that generation. Yeah yeah that's true. It's true. It's coke it's coa. It's not that's true. It's co. It's co. It's co. It's co. It's co. It's co. It's co. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. I literally. I literally. It's c. I literally. I literally. It's c. It's c. It's c. I literally. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. It's c. a thing they hide. They keep it secret. Yeah, I think he's an exhibition. Yeah, I think he's very much into it. But the reason I bring him up is because, you know, Jimmy Dore was doing a big show on it. And they played, you know, Joe Biden's speech about crack and like what they're gonna do to people caught with a nugget a crack. And it's steal all your take all government forfeitures stealing

Starting point is 00:12:05 take all your money take your house take your car take everything throw you in jail no matter what judges can't tell you now his own son's videotaping it and here we have this kind of double standard that is going on. The destruction of the black community the black neighborhoods purposefully okay just like they did to the indigenous people on reservations they did the black neighborhoods purposefully, okay, just like they did to the indigenous people on reservations, they did the exact same thing. So where do you want to begin? Like where would you like to begin in this kind of this journey going on? Because I do think, you know, the, you know, the crack cocaine got fathers out of the household? You know, when we talk about, you know, what they, what they push with these the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.e, they.e, they.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.a.e.e.a.a.a.a.e.a, their, the, the, the, the, the, the crack cocaine got fathers out of the household.

Starting point is 00:12:45 You know, when we talk about, you know, what they push with these welfare systems, like if you had any sign of a father figure living there, you could not receive welfare, just think about what that incentivizes. So what's your thoughts, Big Hurt? Well, for one, what you just said about the whole Biden situation, man, I know guys in federal prison who had licenses and they never got caught with a grandma, a grandma cop. Just on hearsay, their plea deal was 20 years or life.

Starting point is 00:13:21 And a lot of these young male, men, like you said, young black males basically went to trial man and these guys got life sentences and most of them sat in there until they could figure out the law to try to somehow get it turned over, but these guys never got caught with an ounce of dope or let them on a gram. And so it is a double standard and for the whole crime control act, you know, the bill that they passed that locked up all those black males. That was all, you know, through design, man. I mean, the crack era when that hit, and I saw crack. You know, I didn't even know what crack was, but after I started seeing these young black guys in my neighborhood hustling and getting the girls and you know having money. I'm like dude I was a straight-A student. I was you know freshman trigonometry, Spanish chemistry. I was a smart kid but I'm like man maybe you know I should get into that because I'm try to get some paper to to and I got caught up in that and caught a crack case at 15 and ended up doing six months and you know I became a word of estate

Starting point is 00:14:26 they took me away from my mom so I lived that and I've seen it and I've seen people smoke crack I've been to crack out of the men in 80s and you know how it fueled the gang banging and all in destruction and then it was you know the the war on drugs but now it's like oh this all about treatment I mean dude they're legally letting people shoot heroin in the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I's. I'm th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's th. I's th. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's is is is. I's is. I's is. I's is. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's thi. I's the. I'm the. I'm t. I'm teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. too. tea. too. too. too. too.. I mean, dude, they're legally letting people shoot heroin in the streets. They got people smoking, I've seen guys smoking crack methamphetamine right on the side of the highway. So what is such a double standard and all these guys were locked up take away from their kids, and then you start creating this whole generational breakdown of the family unit, lack of values.

Starting point is 00:15:07 I mean, you had guys who maybe the generation before, they had maybe some type of structure in the household, and maybe they got out here to try to hustle to make little extra money, but once they start locking these guys up and you go two generation forward, now you have kids who haven't, who never heard of a dad and that far removed, that's why you have all the whiling out now. That's why you have kids who don't listen to the OGs, you know, kids who literally grown up popping pills and they think it's cool. When I was growing up, it wasn't cool to pop pills. It wasn't cool to get hot. You know, people weed here and there, but everybody was like into working out,

Starting point is 00:15:46 you know, being kind of somewhat healthy sports, you know, and the music was different. So the kids, you listen to stuff and you were thinking, oh man, it was more of just having a good time. It wasn't about necessarily every time something happened. Yeah. Yeah. So it's definitely been weaponized,

Starting point is 00:16:05 bro, the culture itself, and black culture is the most influential culture across the board. Chuck Berry, Muhammad Ali, Mike, I mean, you look at black culture internationally, you got guys in Poland trying to sing trap music. You got kids in Africa now trying to be like, what up mine, you know, I'm saying? And they're using the same slang. So the influence is powerful. So if you take that and invest in it, and you say, hey man, you know what?

Starting point is 00:16:36 We need to get these guys off the way anyways, because we don't want to have them competing, them, them, them, them, them, their, their, their, their, their, their, to have their, this behavior, we can fill up the prisons. And that was a whole by design. You can't advertise for prisons like you can Walmart or Amazon, but behavior two steps down the road will create an action that will lead to these individuals committing acts that will send them to prisons. And now when you look at CCA, corrections, Associate of America, they basically have invested and said, hey, we'll buy all your estate prisons, but you gotta have a 90% occupancy.

Starting point is 00:17:16 How do you have that? That is insane, that that is illegal. And John Oliver, as much I have problems with him, he highlighted that that these these privatized prisons not only brag about having a certain occupation occupancy excuse me but also the returning of of these prison inmates. Recidivism right? Yeah, good luck on me saying that but you know that that's the insanity of it. That is the inmates. Recidivism, right? Yeah, good luck on me saying that, but you know that, that's the insanity of it. That is the insanity of it. Now, you know what, man, you really hit something or black, I don't like the term culture. I think that's all made up in think tanks, done purposefully

Starting point is 00:18:01 to push a narrative away from God, spirituality and all that stuff done purposefully to push a narrative away from God, spirituality, and all that stuff done purposefully. So I'm so old brother that I love to listen to talk radio. That's how old I am. I still listen to it on my radio. Johnny gives me a lot of shit about it. So I'll go from 570, which is the local sports station here in Colin Cowherd, Dan Patrick.

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Starting point is 00:19:09 And that is what's happening right now. They are drowning, in my humble opinion, the black community in this super low frequency shit. Look at this billboard that's in San Francisco. It's encouraging people to do heroin with their friends. And just look at this billboard that's in San Francisco. It's encouraging people to do heroin with their friends. And just look at this photo. Have you ever seen people on heroin who look that alert? Nope. I mean, isn't this unbelievable?

Starting point is 00:19:33 I just. Yeah, that's a new thing. They literally tell you if you're going to do it, just make sure you have an art. No overdose. Yeah, just have no friends. Use with people and take turns. Try not to use alone or have someone check on you. It's ridiculous. It's wild, right? It's ridiculous. And you know, it's so interesting is that we sit there and we listen, you know, I listen.

Starting point is 00:19:56 I listened to you and all the stuff you used to do back in the day and it was outlaw shit. You know, me and my stand up I was a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. the th. the to th. to thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. the th. the th. the th. the th. the the th. the th. the th. th. the th. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. and my stand-up, I was a dirty comic. I was doing, you know, I was like not doing Jerry Seinfeld stuff. But now I look around, everybody's doing a bad version of it of this kind of dirty comedy everywhere. And it's like, it's really, there's nothing special about being an outlaw anymore. And it's- Well, you know, and to make your point, when I when I tell people stuff, I tell them from a perspective of having lived there and done that, and you know what, I'm really grateful. I'm still alive and that I didn't get more time than I did. I mean, I could have easily, you know, been shot.

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Starting point is 00:21:12 you you're really lost spiritually and you're in a place that's very dark and if you don't wake up you can find yourself in a horrible situation I mean there's guys I know that Rob Banks that I was in there with that somebody that that that somebody that somebody that somebody that somebody that somebody that somebody that that that that th you th you th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. I thi. think. thi. I think. think. thi. thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to thi. to to in a horrible situation. I mean, there's guys I know that Rob Banks that I was in there with that somebody mistakenly got shot, accidentally got shot, and these guys are doing 80 years, 90 years, I mean, do it in the fans, that's your life. So the game is so serious, man. And I'm trying to save these young people from these choices, not to try to preach or be a hypocrite because, dude, it's everything you talk, I pull that guns on people, man,

Starting point is 00:21:52 Broaddale, I've done a lot of stuff. I've done adult movies. So I'm not, people say, oh, you're super to write. No, man, I'm telling you, I've been in that industry. And so I'm th I'm tho I'm tho I'm tho I'm tho I'm tho I'm thi I'm thi I'm thi I'm thin I'm thi I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm ti. I'm that's that's, I'm that's, I'm that's, I've that's, I've that's. I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that's. I've that I've that's. I've that's. thi. thi. I've thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I've thi. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thin. thin. thin. ti. I'm ti. tooanananananananan. tooe. tooeatrown. tooe. tooe. tooe. tooe. today. today. today. tod this industry and so I'm talking from experience but what they're doing right now is just beyond my belief. I mean never would you take a little kid to a strip club or have a girl sitting around with her titties out with your little kid. You don't do shit like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It used to be outlaw stuff that there was like this high reward, high punishment for if you did it. Now it's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that. that's that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. I th. I th. th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I that's that that the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I used to be outlawed stuff that there was like this high reward, high punishment for if you did it.

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Starting point is 00:26:39 Remember if you're interested in a better way to use nicotine, visit Lucy.co and make sure to use the promo code, Tinfoil. I want to get into some of the stuff you want to talk about because I'm really interested in you. So one of them, you know, I used to watch a doc on Scared Strait, and they would interview these really young kids and they were like, so what do you think your future is? they're like like I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I used they. I used they. I used their their their tho. I used their thi. I used their tho. I'm tho. I'm their, you're their, you're their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their.. I'm their. I'll their. I'll their. I's. I their. I. I. I. I. I their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to to to to to to to to to t. to. t. t. t. too. too. too. too. too. too. too They're like, I don't know, I'm probably going to go to jail. And I used to get so sad when I would hear that, that a, you know, a child would be like thinking that their future is just basically jail.

Starting point is 00:27:16 That's where I'm going. Not thinking I'm going to be an astronaut, playing the NBA, you know, become a doctor, I lawyer, I'm going to go to jail. I've heard kids say, I'm going to be a gangster. I'm like, what does that mean? He's just like, I'm going to be a gangster. Yeah, whatever the whatever hip-hop song, rap song he heard, he was like 11, 12 already getting into trouble. I'm like, what do you want to be? He's like, I'm like, let's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he's, he's, he's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I'm, I's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I'm like, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm th. I's, that. Where does this come from, Big Herk? Where is this kind of mentality that we see in black? And I know he's Mexican, he's white, I'm Armenian, some people might get uncomfortable about this, but it's like, I think black culture is American culture, and

Starting point is 00:27:57 American culture is American history, and we have to have a real discussion about this because I think what happened in the 80s and the 90s was like Jesse Jackson, L. Sharpton created a thing that people couldn't criticize black culture and so it became this kind of this thing where it just was like an inside job and everybody was just allowed to do whatever they want without outside influence and I think outside influence is super important people on the outside to tell you what you hey man you're acting th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. the the the the the the the the the th. was like th. was like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to have to have to have to have to have to have to to to to to to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. they. they the the. think outside influences is super important. People on the outside to tell you what,

Starting point is 00:28:27 hey man, you're acting really crazy right now. Why don't you click it back a little bit? And we see it happened like, you know, what's happening with like, you know, the gay movement and stuff? There was a time where everyone's like, hey, they're like yeah you can get married but now they've gone so crazy into like hey man let me wear be a drag queen and read your kindergarten whoa that went too far and now you see the outside influences going the other way to the gay community going hey man we gave you equal rights

Starting point is 00:28:56 chill the fuck out with this kid shit right and like that's why I kind of think happen man this movement to make people too scared to criticize what was happening in black culture. That it just got, it just was allowed to just do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. And I think that is a dangerous thing to have. Well, you're absolutely right that black culture, and I only said black culture in reference to like hip hop and how they weaponize black culture because

Starting point is 00:29:26 Country music man. I've been a country music Functions, you know where everybody's talking to blind bands nobody's trypin Nobody's trying to one up or size you up. I mean I've been places where they say oh man. I mean, I've been maybe one of three black guys never had a problem. So culture. Yeah, American culture is having some type of value in us as a whole. Not the division, which is what they're creating. And what saved me, I believe is exposure. I grew up on a military base. Treasure Island, the Bay Area in the 80s, skateboarding, going to San Francisco, and Barkadero, you know, Golden Gate Park, we used to be all over, little

Starting point is 00:30:11 kids, 12 years old, 13, 11, running around, and you know, it was Filipino, white, Laotian, Chinese, Hawaiian. It didn't matter. We lived on a military base, everybody was chill. There was never any racial divide or, oh, you're Mexican, this anatomy. Everybody hung out with everybody. So I had that experience, but I didn't really look at how influenced and how I had been kind of programmed through, you know, whatever music influences or media influences until I got to federal prison and I really looked at it because in juvenile hall I was young.

Starting point is 00:30:52 15, you know, there was white guys in there who sold dope who were gang members, black guys, all of them sold dope. Everybody was gang-banging. And so I didn't really, I knew that I was different because none of these kids could pretty much they nothing could really read or do any math but they could sell a lot of dope and so when I was in there and I was looking around selling dope you know I know I know that this isn't what my family endorses and a lot of these kids their whole family knew they sold dope I I mean I was sneaking around selling dope. So it was always like me kind of living a double life. And then when I caught my case and when I was 18, driving a guy who did a home

Starting point is 00:31:33 invasion and I went to CYA for two years, eight months, you know, once again I didn't really have any male influences, you know, that kind of set me down. I mean, my grandfather was my major male influence, never met my dad, but we never really had those conversations and I was always a dreamer, you know, looking in G2 magazine, watching Lifestyle, the Rich and Famous, you know, want to be the black James Bond. You know, I always had these dreams of being very successful, watching Wall Street, Gordon Gecko, you know, I was one of those guys. So I always felt like an outsider fitting in because nobody around me had the same goals, ambitions, or dreams.

Starting point is 00:32:15 So it was like, where do I go to to find this? I never met a black doctor, never met a black lawyer, a black accountant, a black corporate owner until I went to the feds. black lawyer, a black accountant, a black corporate owner, until I went to the feds. And then, and actually before that, when I lived in Huntington Beach for a little while, you know, I was exposed to it a little bit because the Orange County bubble,

Starting point is 00:32:35 and I had, you know, and I was a minority in that area, but I didn't really get to appreciate it or acclimate to the area because I was in there, I was only there for two years, and I felt like an outsider. So I did have exposure, but I still didn't have that influence. So going back to, like I said, when I got to the feds, I met an older black gentleman who was articulate from South Central, he was spiritual, you know, he read conversations with God, Deepotropa. He was very intellectual, didn't sag, you know, talk proper. He, he was in a fence for pulling, you know, basically container heise,

Starting point is 00:33:15 but he used to make a lot of money, drove Ferraris on the street, Portiaia's, you know, he was, he was a guy and I looked like he was a refined brother that he questioned, he made me question myself, why do you talk like that? Why do you, you know, why do you do this? Why do you do that? And nobody had ever done that. No, nobody had really sat me down, especially from a male perspective and show me and and showed me what it was like to be a man.

Starting point is 00:33:41 So as I was under him and at 24 and kind of mentor me, and that I had, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was a the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I was a th be a man. So as I was under him at 24 and kind of mentor me, and then I had another guy who was a mentor, who was the older white guy, I really found myself and who I was, and that's sent me on a spiritual quest. So between reading spirituality and studying the law, that's all I did for eight years. I didn't really have a regular job in the federal penitentiary.

Starting point is 00:34:05 I had a job where they call it, pay you no mind, where I only made maybe $8 a month. And I hustled. I hustled helping people with legal work typing. And I use that time to find myself, because I figured, you know, I don't have time to play d'a. I don't have the time the time the time the time the time to play the time to play the time time time to play the time to play the time theuuu., I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, t, t, t, t, I'm, I'm, t, t, to, to, to, to, to, to, t, tom, tom, tom, tom, tom, tom, their, I'm, I their, I their, I tom, I, tom, tom, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, the, t, the, t, the t, t, tome, togu......... I'm, togu.. I'm, togu.a, togu.a, togu. I'm, togu. I'm, today, today, today, I don't have time to play a basketball in the yard, to watch BT. I need to get my mind right. I need to figure out what did I, what mistakes did I do or what choices did I make that led to me

Starting point is 00:34:31 come into prison. I mean dude I'm in there with guys, you know, one dude had four life sentences plus a hundred years. I'm in their mind. One dude, one dude got a year for every million dollars he laundered. They gave him a hundred years. He laundered, he laundered a hundred million dollars. I mean, dude, like crazy dudes, and I'm talking to some of these guys, and these guys are killers. I can feel the energy. I'm talking to a guy and he was like, big hurt, man. I'm just trying to get somewhere where it's a low where I can't try thso escape escape escape escape escape, I'm just try try try try, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, he's like, I just gotta get my points down so I can escape, man. I said, I'm not gonna do all this time. I mean, these dudes are straight, man, killers. Not these fake dudes out here run around that are doing everything high. These dudes, you can look in their eyes.

Starting point is 00:35:15 You look at dudes in You don't look at people on the face unless you unless you let you don't look if you don't nod your head you don't. Dude if you turn the TV somebody might stab you. Really? You won't stab you over the TV. Man it's not a place to play man. There people will is serious up in there. You know what I mean. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're are are are are are th. th is th. th. they're are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't are don't. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to th. to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to tho. tho. mean? Dude, they're selling big dope up in there. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's another world. And when you see how serious that is, and you get to the, you make your way down. And I had, I had high points because I had a violent crime. So I never made it to a camp or to a low. experience so that when I got out I'm like dude you know I got I can't get out here mess around you know I have to take advantage of what I what I've been

Starting point is 00:36:09 exposed to and figure out like who I am and where I want to go and my goal was to get out come up with a show and basically educate people not through fear like scare straight but actually try to provide value value where you like you said you show somebody something hey man you can be a doctor you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the. I to to to to. Value where you like you said, you show somebody something. Hey man, you can be a doctor. You can be an architect. Hey man, you can run a multi-million dollar business. You can go to school and be a dentist.

Starting point is 00:36:34 You can, you know, learn to be a lawyer. You can be something beyond a street dude. You know, there's so many more options. But if you never met anybody thany any thany any thany the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi. thi. the, th. th. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the, to to to the, the, toooooo, toe, too, toe, too house who has a boat, who actually have a legitimate income who's made it, then you think it's all a fantasy and all you think is the rappers with the grills and the cell phone, stacks of money and all that stuff, you think that's your only out or either playing basketball. There's a lot of other things you can do that can make you successful if you focus on that, but you gotta be exposed to it. There's guys I know in LA right now who never go to the beach. They've never been to the beach. They've never been to the beach. They're

Starting point is 00:37:12 never been to be 15 miles from the beach. And they've never met up. their threat. their the grass you know what I mean so that told you like if you're so disconnected with the mother earth the spirituality nature dude you're lost real you're lost it don't matter how much money you may selling drugs on the street if you can't tap into that that higher self and get that higher vibration of frequency to where you can attract that good energy, you can have all the money in the world but you're looking over your shoulder. Somebody's going to be trying to rob you, some girls can be trying to set you up.

Starting point is 00:37:51 Somebody else is going to try to, you know, maybe, you know, put you in a situation, I mean, it's all top of negative stuff because it's a low frequency. And a lot of people don't understand money is not the end all is having when you have good energy and your you're a good spirit all that stuff You know money comes just as as a as a blessing but everybody's chasing chasing chasing the money and they're chasing it in such a dark form that that money man it becomes an evil and evil drive and that's what a lot of people go wrong. Yeah, you're making money talking about murdering people and kill them. I mean, how many people have you kill the the you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. the you. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're the the the the the the the you, you're, you're the the you, you're you, you're you, you, you, you the you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you you, you the you, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, you're a good, you're a good good th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you're thi, you're people go wrong. Yeah, you're making money talking about murdering people and killing. I mean, how many people have you killed in your songs? Then you turn around and other young people are listening to that music and they're going out, committing those acts because the music has hypnotized them and vibrated and they know that music has a certain, it's not like a movie. A movie, yeah, if you sit there and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and watch and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to the music, to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to to have, to have, to have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, yeah, if you sit there and watch it over a video game, but songs you keep playing them, it does have a sense, when you're not mature enough, where you haven't got to a point, like now I'm mature enough where I can listen to a song and just listen to a beat.

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Starting point is 00:41:17 for sponsoring this podcast. Do you have something to say, have you heard of drill music? Now it's past a whole different thing. It's called drill music. Now they'll go kill someone and rap about it on the track. And they'll say like, I smoked whoopty whoop, and it sounds like they're talking about weed, but they're talking about the guy they just killed. Oh, man, who was on there, I got a lot of shit for something I said. And I was talking about how like, you know, I remember like, this wasn't, the movie had

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Starting point is 00:42:45 that, hey man, I might get caught and I might have to do a lot of time, was there any thought to that? Is there any thought to these youth about where they might end up? You know what? That's a great question and you know, I think about that, and I'm thinking about like the mindset. And dude when you you you you you you when when when when when when you you you you when you you when you're when you're when you're when you're when you're when you're when you're when you're when you're th. thin thin thin thin thin, when you're thin, when you're thin, thin, thin, th about like the mindset and do when you're in that mindset that you think you're indestructible that you're go that you're going to outsmart the police by when you commit these crimes and you know if it if you get caught you get caught but you really don't entertain that because you're so caught up in the moment or in the lifestyle. So you don't really you're, you're not really balancing out your actions. And I say, you know, that goes along with your maturity as far as your age. You grow out of that in your late 20, early 30s.

Starting point is 00:43:35 You're no longer thinking about, or you shouldn't be thinking about like the gang-banging, you know, tying people up, doing crazy stuff like that, robbing people, because you realize that you kind of can see things now and there's something that clicks in your brain. But when I was young, when I was, you know, 21, 22, 23, man, I was on some gangster shit, you know, I'm not trying to say I have a toughest dude out there, but you know, a lot of my stuff, I mean, if dudes go back and look even in my town, they'll know. I mean, I was around doing a lot of shit, man. And, you know, when I was doing that, I was thinking like, you know, I'm super gangster, you know, if somebody comes at me, you know, I'm ready. You know, I used to roll around with a strap all the time, you know, I mean, I wasn't tripping I wasn't I wasn't thripping I wasn't I wasn't tripping I wasn't tri tri tri tri tri tri tri tri tri I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't tripping I wasn't tripping I wasn't tripping I wasn't tripping I wasn't tripping I wasn't tripping. And I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't thripping. And I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't that I wasn't th and I wasn't thripping thripping thripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping tripping. And I wasn't tripping. And I wasn't tripping. tripping. tripping. tripping. And I wasn't tripping. And I wasn't that I wasn't tripping that I wasn't tripping. I would do shit and let people know and it had a reputation to wear, you know, whatever. But at the same time, I could play the square guy. I can dress up. I can go over here and mingle. I could talk and I knew how to play both sides. But once I got locked up, I realized that that other person, man. That that other person, man. I didn't want to be that. That's a dark. That was that that that that that was that was that that was a very the very the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that was the that was that was that that was that was that was that was that was the the the the the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the other. the other. the other. the other. the other. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. to be that. That's a dark, that was a very dark person, man. And that's why I try to relate to these kids that, you know, there is another side of yourself

Starting point is 00:44:52 that you haven't tapped into that, that you can. Because, you know, you, it's easy to fall into that. And when you're around, I was around a lot of dark energy and I was lost. I didn't even know when I was 21 22 23 I really didn't have no direction man. I mean I had went to college six six units si my AA never went back. I was doing adult movies and I was robbing dudes. I would go you know be do I would do a movie on Wednesday Thursday Saturday Sunday I might rob a dude man and then come back and act like nothing happened. I was doing, I was the gangster, bro, I was on some way out of shit. So when I did a bank robbery, I was already, see, I had built up all these bad choices, decisions. So it was easy to do the next thing. So that's what I'm saying when you're on that path, it's like a big, a big, a. And the centrifugal force is so strong,

Starting point is 00:45:45 if you threw a water mill it in there, it is shredded. So when you're on that type of centrifugal force, and you are, somebody's telling you something contradictory, you're not really listening because it's spinning so fast. So the only way that thing stops is something dramatic has to happen. You have to have something that makes you like, you have a a a something, thi a something, thi a something, thi a something, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, a something, thi, a something something, a something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a thi, a, you know, whether you get shot, something happens, somebody tie, you know, you have to have something that shake you up to where he's like, oh my God, what am I doing my life? And I had that, you know, maybe if I would have somebody talked to me before, or maybe if I would have voiced this out loud to somebody close to me, but I didn't really really to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to the to, to, their their to, to, their, to, to, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, you know, you their, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you to, you to have, you to have, you to have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you the the the the the the the the the their, you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, you thin, you know, you know, you know, you know, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th to to, you know, you know, you really have any close male friends and, you know, the girl I would at the time, I didn't really know how to express this stuff,

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Starting point is 00:48:09 The other guy, the guy who I did, the robbery, who ran in the bank with me, dude, he went crazy in prison. He felt so bad that he told, because he was just scared. He went from being a threath trying to be an actor, he went into prison, he recanted his story, they tried to give him seven years, he went to trial, they gave him 17 years, he went crazy in prison, stop shower, he got out living on Skid Row and the police were doing a sweep down her one day and dude they said he reached for the gun and they shot him four times. He's dead. So both they they they they they they they they they they they they they think thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thoed thi. He was thi. He was tho-heed tho-heed heed heed heed heed heed. heed. heed. He was th. He was th. He was heed. He was heed. He was heed. He was heed. He was heed. He was heed. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was thi. He was thi. He was thi. He was thi. He was thi. He was thi. He was thin, todeeeeaned tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried tried, he was tried, he was tried, he was t gun and they shot him four times. He's dead. So both my co-defendants are dead. I'm the only one alive so I feel it's like my spiritual

Starting point is 00:48:49 colleague to share my story to help other young people who are in these trying times because a lot of these kids I talked to across the world, New Zealand, Denmark, Russia, Hungary, Canada. They don't have anybody telling them anything. They don't have no male figure, you to to give to give to give to give thiviviviviviviviviving their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. teo. te. te. th. th. their their their their their their their have anybody telling them anything. They don't have no male figure, you know, giving them advice, you know, about, hey, man, you could take a trade, go into the military, get away from your friends. That's all right to be different. Because I always felt like I was different. I never fit in, even when I was in prison. Guys would say, hey, man, you're the tha, thap, thap, thap, thap, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thin, thin, thi, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi. thi. thi. thi, thin, thin, thin, tap, tap, tapy. tapy. tapi, tapi, tapi, tapi, t tapi, tapi, tapi, tapi, tapi, tapi, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thict, I said, man, I'm just passing through. What do you mean you're passing through? I said, dude, I don't own none of this shit. I'm not buffing the floor, I'm not doing all this stuff, aren't, dude, I'm just passing through.

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Starting point is 00:50:25 he was like, man, what are you doing on law library? I said, man, I'm studying man, you know, I said man, I'm studying man, you know, I'm studying man, you know, I'm studying, man, I said, wa'u theyme, And me and this dude had a standoff. Like I thought he was gonna try to stab me and if he wasn't, I was gonna have to try to annihilate his ass. But that's the type of mentality. Do your time. This guy, he was walking, all he did was walk the track and carry a knife and wait, wait to get into some shit. But that's the influence. So you've got all those black guys with him. Here I am doing my own thing. And even me doing my own thing, people don't like it. You know what I mean? They can't stand to see you being different.

Starting point is 00:51:12 And that's the thing about in general. People want to fit in. They're scared to be the individual. They're scared to send nobody. They don't want people to think they're different. It's all right to be different. It's alright if you're a black guy, you want to play the violent or be a drummer. You know what I mean? It's all right to be a skateboarder and be Mexican or being an Armenian basketball player.

Starting point is 00:51:34 It's not a black thing. It's just being American, bro. and 100, I mean this show, I mean, listen dude, I'm a stand-up comic, I haven't been through all the stuff you have, but you know in this town, why everyone's zigging, I'm zagging, and it can get like, it can get kind of like quiet, man, and people don't like anybody who walked, you know, dance at their own beat. Happens all the time. They all want to conform, because they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their their their. They'll be they'll be their. they'll be their. their. their. their. their. they'll they'll they'll they'll their. they'll they'll be their. they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I I'll their. I'll their. I I'll their. I I'll their. I I'll their. I. I'll their. I. I. I. I'll their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. tooooooooooooooo. I'm. I'm. the. the. I'm. I'm. the. I'm likes conformity. They all want to conform because they think they conform then suddenly they'll be more accepted and more opportunities will come. And I think that just, I think the more you conformed down the line, the less options you have to be happy. They send you down this kind of line and you're just out of options and now you're in a job you hate because you just, you thought this was what you did you conform in reality it's about going your own way and you know the hip-hop culture I mean there's a very famous

Starting point is 00:52:31 meeting I don't know if it's it's real or not but we've all seen that kind of like blog entry that talks about this guy was in the music industry he was called to a secret meeting in which the you know the prison industrial complex walked in and goes, basically, we own the record labels now, and we want you to push this gangbanger crime rhyme stuff because we want to fill our prisons and people push back and they were thrown out. They all had to sign non-disclosure so they couldn't say anything and this is where we are. I mean, if you take a look at the story of Ice Cube, man man Elders did a giant video on him about his story isn't his character that he played and that he profess this like kind of this gangbanger thing in NWA when in reality is from he was, he would have

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Starting point is 00:54:26 there was a time where people settled their problems with fists. Then it became guns. And now we have all the, you know, who gets promoted pushes a certain narrative. And I remember listening on a hip-hop radio station. They were, they were kind of trying to talk down to this woman because she grew up in a two-pair household and that was like seen as a negative thing. And you're like, what are we doing?

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Starting point is 00:58:12 Because if you don't have love, you have anger. You have frustration, you have all these dark emotions, and your mom can try to nurture those, but you need a man to give you that bravado. You get a man to pick you up. Hey, man, it's all right. You're gonna go back, you're gonna get him next time. That man, just like what custom model did for Tyson. But if you have a dad, you have a, you know, if you have a dad get through this. You won't go and do the dumb shit. You'll think again, you know, hey man,

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Starting point is 00:59:13 When you don't have that voice, the next voice you're going to hear, boot the judge slapping down that gavel. Ten years, 120 months, five years. You know, know, whatever the case may be, you're, then you're gonna be crying, oh man, the system, oh man, these people, man, you did it. You did it to yourself. Yeah. Nobody tell you go out there and be jacking people and rob and smash and grab and doing all this stuff. And man, look, if you don't have a felony, you never been to trouble. Man, sky's the limit.

Starting point is 00:59:45 You can go to ITT. You can go bender hiring all day. You can go take a fabrication class. You can become a diesel mechanic. You can go to the military for two years, the four years and get you a GI bill. There's a gang of options. There's no excuse to be doing dumb shit, man.

Starting point is 01:00:05 But these kids, they don't have nobody talking to him. You need that strong male figure. Hey, man, get your butt up. Let's go to the gym. Hey, let's go for a butt, let's do something. Quit being lazy. If you go outside nowadays, you don't see no kids out of these kids, they're not, they're not active, they're not doing nothing. Everybody's caught up in the social media in the moment.

Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah. And you got it like, you know, if you have somebody as far as the male influence, he can kind of show you, okay, man, that guy right there, yeah, and look like he gets money, he's walking around, look at be making a quarter million a year, have your own business, run your own schedule, and in 10 years you'll be a millionaire. You gotta think long term because if you commit a crime, you get away, you'll have a two, three year run,

Starting point is 01:00:54 and you do 15 years. Do the math. Three years, you thought you made working at Walmart, but now you're sitting in prison Working for 80 to maybe 10 to a 60 cents an hour for 10 years 15 years. How stupid is that? You're going to prison to work for 60 cent 50 cent and you're doing 10 years for robbing a dude for two pounds a week Come on man. Yeah, and you know what man? We have a real problem two pounds a week. Yeah, come on man. Yeah. And you know what man? We have a, we have a real problem and you're seeing it on a very large scale cultural

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Starting point is 01:02:12 what is it like 30% now? Is it something kind of number like that? The black percentage of the prison population? Oh, it's more than that. It's like, what, 40, 50? or what percentage of the black community is in jail, and which is totally tragic and totally wrong. We all know that those, those, those, drug laws were purposely done to do this. Okay, 40%? 40% of the population and they make up what?

Starting point is 01:02:37 12%? Yeah, okay, so and what percentage of, uh, we're doing a lot of numbers here, but a percentage of the black population is in jail. What we never talk about is what percentage of the population is not in jail. And why aren't those people in jail? What are they doing that the other, that this segment isn't doing? And it's very simple and it's something that's never talked about is like, are you playing the game of life? Are you playing the game of life?

Starting point is 01:03:05 There are different parts of this haunted house we live in are more haunted than others and within those certain areas there are different rules at different places and it sucks because the rules should all be the same for everybody. But because we know that there's these demon suckers who are who are trying to destroy our communities that are making's these demon suckers who are who are trying to destroy our communities That are making different rules for different things. So are you playing this game? And if you think all this marching and all this stuff is going to change the system, it's not. You don't change system. This is what you really do. You know what you do? You change yourself. You make your difference. To define yourself by something that happened 200 years ago. My grandparents, my grandfather's parents, my great-grandfather's brothers and sisters

Starting point is 01:03:53 were all killed by the Turks. They were slaughtered in front of him and he was able to escape and get away. I do not define myself by that. Because I was lucky that a gentleman made a decision to get the fuck out of that situation, go somewhere else and change its family's destination and their livelihood and their direction. So that to me, and I'd love to hear Big Hurt's opinion on that if I'm out of pocket on this one, but it's like to define your, it's so easy to define yourself by something that can never be changed so you could always use that as an excuse on where you are and what's going on. To understand that here's the game that needs to believe, what is the game, what is the game of life, and I think the game of life is for each one of

Starting point is 01:04:37 us to change our family's trajectory and how do we do that? But, you know, it's like we do this show. Herc, you have your amazing YouTube channel called Fresh Out, right? That's how we change our family's destinations. What are your thoughts on that, what we focus on, what we don't focus on? I think you made a great point, man. And when you say that you're not going to accept that to define you, now that requires responsibility. And, and, and, and, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to add, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, that to define you. Now that requires responsibility. And to add to what you're saying, I have a good friend from Romania.

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Starting point is 01:05:50 And see, the thing is, that makes money over here. People like the, who were pushing that mentality. And they're like, well, we need to get this, we need to get that. If all you keep thinking you're going to give something, you can keep these people riled up and then they miss all the other fruits that are going, that are already hanging from the tree. They're no longer striving because they're stagnant. It's like I got them frozen in time because they're still trying to wait for a justification and when they keep pushing that agenda, they keep pushing that agenda, their the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, the agenda, their their their their thagre's thagre's thi, thi, thi keep pushing their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their their their their their thrown, thrown, that's that's that's that's that's that are already throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, that are already already thr-a, the. you more dependent. But if you go out here and just get it and like you said you see more people that are actually successful, you see there's guys not the hip-hop, there are multi-marry who don't dress like that, who are talk articulate, these guys are educated, their families are going to great

Starting point is 01:06:37 schools, they have two families, there's a lot of that. But when you don't project that, see people buy into that part of the matrix. thiiiii. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, th. There's, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. the. the. the. theat. theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, the see people buy into that part of the matrix. So it's all about what wouldn't be and propagated on media. And I remember Byron Allen said why he wanted a network was because when he created programs, he wanted his daughters to see certain things that were that were addressing her in a proper fashion and he asked one of the other executives. She said, well, you want your daughter to be watching a show that shows women, who knows doing all the stuff and showing us? He's like, no. He said, well, why do I want my kids to watch that? And like he said about Cardi B? I mean, you know, they're the placeing money at them and you got little kids, if you believe, get out of here.

Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah, I've seen the little video. I'm like, dude, you're teaching a kid already. What values are you teaching them already? He's in that thing. So when he gets old enough, the first things ickles down, but it has to start with somebody taking responsibility and quit trying to make excuses. I'm a three times younger, man, I have never been on welfare. I've never got out here and was crying, man,

Starting point is 01:07:54 I've been, man, I can't, this hard out here. Man, I go places, I talk to people. I got our medium friends, I got Armenian friends, I got a Hispanic friend, white, I mean, dude, it doesn't matter is how you care. I never have I said I can't do something because I'm black in America or because I've been, dude, I've done more time that most people talking all this shit and I don't make no excuses. But people like, oh man, what you try to, not everybody, you can't. you try being a victim victim thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say, I'm, I'm to me, I'm to me, I've to me, I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've I've to have I I I I I I I I I I. to say, I I. to say, I I I I. to say, I. to say, I. to say, I. to say, I. to to to to to to to to try. try. try. to me. to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, Stop being a damn victim. Everybody want to justify. Quit being a damn victim, man.

Starting point is 01:08:29 It's so easy and like so much of these narratives are also being pushed by opportunists who have not grown up in, like, a really big part of political correctness is people wanting credit for oppression they never gone through. And they are like Ice Cube, right? I mean Ice Cube is like, man it's hard out here. Like dude, you're going to a private school. There's that guy, Kowami Bell?

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Starting point is 01:09:24 a lot of people dude. But I'm just saying that dude this notion that you're going, it's like this narrative being pushed, you're playing a character. You're no different. Ice Cube is basically Larry the cable guy. He's playing a character and presenting a lifestyle that he's, they didn't never really live. And you see it happening all the time. And now Johnny, we talk about it's all on the show. This old push now to get black men to wear th. th. th. th. th. their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the the the th. It's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm a th. I'm that. I'm that. I'm too. I' too. I' too. I' too. I' that. I' that. I'm thate. I'm th. I'm th. I'm time. And now Johnny, we talk about it's all on the show. This old push now to get black men to wear drag everywhere they go. And this push to make trans black trans are like, you brought the Dr. Dre thing, this hidden picture that suddenly comes out. It's just feminizing thing, right? There's some, I don't know what it's about. I can't't work it out but it's it's this effort to feminize especially but it's working it's working it's destroying alphas it's it's about the destruction of alphas alpha's lead remember I told you I was watching that stupid thing on dude I was watching a Coachella it's like every

Starting point is 01:10:18 act at Coachella is a trans with a banjo and this guy's like I don't want to be strong I want to be weak. What? What? That and that's what they're pushing. And the crazy part of Sam's right. I went to like this Coachella top of it. These these these guys had their nails painted they got the hottest chicks. Like the chicks you want the general the fluid. What do they call that? Yeah. That's the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's what. the. the. the. the. the. that's what. that's what. that's what. that's what. that's what. that's what. that's what. that's. that's. that's call that? Yeah that's my old thing ladies stop crying about that there's no good men out there when you're out there just banging these trance. Yeah I'm over here picking I'm like no wonder these these guys are winning like I'm at a point where I might paint my nails

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Starting point is 01:12:15 So, like you say, get rid of Alpho, if Hollywood, once, if you know, you might make a little bit of money, but if you want to cross, cross the next transition, you got to go and, you know, do that, do that crossroad or let the, somehow participate in something. And I know this is part of the game because, like, you know, like I said, I was in the sex industry. And I know, I've seen little stuff and I ran across different people. And even like in the porn, they have started getting to a point, the their, their, thapapapapapapapapapapap. And their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, th. And, their, th. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, they. And, they. And, they. And, to, to, to, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And in the porn, they have started getting to a point where they were trying to have guys do little weird shit to see if they can get a straight guide and let this guy do this or do that or see if you're cool with this. And so that's the whole thing with seeing how we can possibly take a dominant alpha, a silver back and see we can get him to cross over and do some of thisthis other stuff to see what his what is his threshold is you know and like you were saying about the lot of these guys with the paint of nails well you might have a female acting like she likes that we do but that's saying female I have some some dude who's a a gorilla a gorilla

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Starting point is 01:13:52 It's all about just trying to, to shish kebab your sense of what is right and what is wrong. And you know, and I used to do a lot of drugs, man, and I would set high scores on Pornhub, and I was just like watching these compilation videos, and I'm like, nobody at home just put this video together. It is so well done. I go, this is being done by much higher things. And you know, Pornup used to brag about having the, it was the website that went the quickest to 50 million subscribers. That doesn't just happen overnight. That's done purposefully and that is done with what I believe is CIA backing.

Starting point is 01:14:35 The CIA pushes this, allows it to do things, you know, like Pornup became one of the first of the websites to allow you to clip other people's content and nothing would happen. If you try to go after them legally, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.e, thi.e, thi, thi, thi, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, is, thi, thi, the, thi you to clip other people's content and nothing would happen. If you try to go after them legally, they would have all these lawyers that would just keep you in court forever so it's impossible to fight these guys that were stealing all your content. Now you have to pay for porn.

Starting point is 01:14:56 Now you could go get free clips of hours and hours of pornobs content. That was all done purposefully to lower your frequency and introduce you into darker and deeper stuff. I make no illusions of that. It's just like that was a job and now crystal meth is everywhere. It's being, you know it's like supply chains are down except for speed, fentanyl and all that stuff. Somehow that stuff just somehow getting into the country purposefully, purposefully and easily. We're living in a crazy time.

Starting point is 01:15:29 You know, I don't know, I mean, whether it's from the 80s, the 9-11, but it seems like really, especially over the last seven years, we've seen this kind of real, like, just mega push, warp drive into all of these siops over and over and over again, mass shootings, food shortages, you know, inflation. Now we got gun control. What are your whole thoughts on why all that's happening, Big Herc? Well, when you talk about subversion and, you know, I tell people, man, I didn't read

Starting point is 01:16:07 my first real book until I got to prison. And I used to read stuff in there, man, and I'd be like, laying on my bunk, I'm like, God, I wish I would have read this on the street, man. I'd be reading congressional acts. I would read my, one of my mentors had the U.S. Attorney's Manual, and they would talk about how to, you know, get people, and, you know, to basically commit these crimes and how to corporateure and, you know, all these different things, and I read all these different things about everything from Behold the pale horse to a book about

Starting point is 01:16:42 the Black Pope and who really runs the Vatican, and these different things and reading about Cecil Rhodes and the opium wars and how England flooded China and how they were able to take Hong Kong and how you don't need to take a country by using warfare if you use other means you know to demoralize the people you know break down the culture and that's what's going on here, man. Why would you want to drop a nuclear bomb and ruin great property when if you flood it with fentanyl and drugs and demoralization and values and, you know, all these other sexuality proclivities, now you can come in and people have no sense of what's right, what's wrong, you can basically insert the people you want to take control because people have no direction.

Starting point is 01:17:27 All the alphras are gone, you know, and if you notice with the whole push, even like, like he said with the fentanyl is this, you know, the border is not only, you know, with people illegal immigration, but you're talking like, dude tons of drugs. I mean, they show some guys 150,000. They're their tons of drugs. I mean, they showed tons tons tons tons tons tons tons tons tons tons tons, tons, tons, tons. Do tons. Do tons. Do tons. Do tons. Do tons. Do tons. T tons. T tons. Do tons tons tons tons of their their their their tons tons tons, tons, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their drugs. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. tons tons of tons of tons of tons of tons tons tons of tons tons tons tons tons of drugs. tons tons of drugs.,000 they got, these dudes were illegal, they just took off. They're not going back to court. 150,000 people they say it was enough to kill the city of Houston. How the hell did that happen? So when you see people doing that, people in office, they' tell you man, they've got a plan. They want to destroy the public public to destroy public the public their their their their their their their their their the public to the point where you can't parent your kids, if you are, they're on drugs or they're confused and they've got all these situations going on and now you come in and say we have the answer. Bow down to us and basically we'll solve all your problems. We'll do this and that but you got to

Starting point is 01:18:18 you know give us your allegiance. And it's like I'm someone not, some of some chronicoretic type shit, man. It's crazy, man, when you look at it, I mean, literally, they got people like so confused. I have a friend that's a doctor works out, a USC man, and he said the children's hospital. Man is so sad, man, how many kids, what's going on. Kids don't even know what's, they with all the kids don't know what they are no more. They don't know what's just they don't know what's happening kids. They're depressed, the suicide rate is up. They're not even talking about the suicide. They're not talking about that. Why are they talking about all the kids right now? They don't want to kill themselves, man. Because it's so complex, whether it's the where do you fit in or identifying you got kids now they're doing they don't know what's going on man and if I didn't know what I was doing up until 24 and making conscious

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Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah. Because public school, those are gun. You're done your kids. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's an attack everywhere. Yeah. It's a war on children. It's a war on the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their that. that. their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. tode. toda. toda. today. toda. today. today. today. today. today. today. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. on children to war on the next generation. You know this COVID shit I was just thinking about it. It was never about COVID. This was a way to introduce all this world economic forum, new world order shit. Just steal, I mean stealing our food, stealing all this stuff, banging, hitting us with all this kind of, uh, S SIOP, Cyber Polygon, July 8th, bam, what happens in Canada? Now they get to test that out, see how people react to it.

Starting point is 01:21:12 It's all being done. And what, and now you're breaking everybody down, you're turning dudes in the betas, you're giving them all this, all this pharmaceuticals, which make them probably follow the rules even more conformity. All these artists think the job, their whole job is to conform to the narrative. And it's like no man you got to push back. Your whole job is to push back.

Starting point is 01:21:38 And you got these older ass liberals who can't come to grips with that the Democratic party isn't what they used to be that's been hijacked by neolibraals who are basically touching dicks with neocons and it's elites versus everybody. And you know, Dana was giving me shit last night. She's like, why you keep talking about rich kids. These rich kids are the ones who are just pushing all this narrative shit. It's like, it's like Malcolm X and the Unabomber said. The rich white liberals are the most dangerous animals out there.

Starting point is 01:22:09 Who do you think is taking their kids to gay pride parades? That gay people don't even want. They want to go have their own day, do their own thing. I don't care what they do. Why you bring your kids there? Because because because because because because, because, because, why you're they're, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why they they're, why, why, why, why, they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they are. they are. they are they are. they are they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they're there? Because you are trying to conform, so you're trying to show everybody your team player. Yeah, like I've even said like if I was gay, I would not want kids there. Yeah, no, what the fuck?

Starting point is 01:22:31 I'm not even gay and I don't want kids. Yeah, you'd be, you'd be try and some crazy shit. Yeah, dude, it's like, Right? These, they were just all white girls. They would be, you would literally play the gang called, Find the Black Person at the BLM March. Because it was all white women who throwing up Marx's fists, trying to do that, conforming, conforming, because their basic needs of food, shelter clothing, were always taken care of from the moment they came into the world.

Starting point is 01:23:01 They were all taken care of, so now they're seeking that out. Now they have to live through someone else's trauma. They want to take, they want credit for oppression, they're not going through. So now, what do they do, they go to these BLM marches, they're like, I'm helping, then they go back to their gated community, and all that, it's all them basically live, and what is that movie where they could commit crimes for one day not get a purge? The per, they're all just living the purge.

Starting point is 01:23:31 That's LA still though. That's LA. That's LA. But they come in from other counties to come to see, and she says that people come in from other counties to come steal. They're like seven, eight of them come in. And she's a girl, like, what do you do? I just kind of...

Starting point is 01:23:52 Yeah, Big Herc, you might still be on the street, you know, from the first time if they had the rules today. Yeah, you know, you might still be crazy when you said that about just the whole mentality and having, you know, I didn't even think about that when you said that they came in having everything. My friend is married to a Jewish girl and her sister basically because they don't want to get the jab, you know, wouldn't let them come around for some of the parties and this and that and she's actually a president of a of one of the BLM chapters right we're so crazy she has no black friends never hung out if you if I came to her house right now knocked the door she probably called a cop zombie but she one of the biggest

Starting point is 01:24:36 having she's talking all the stuff and she's like what you're talking a about you know what I mean like how you even do you do you even know what that represents? Have you did your research or, and that's like you said, people just jump on something, start pumping a fist up in the air, and they don't know any of really the undermining, uh, values of what they're representing, and I'll say they're digging or down something. And it's like, dude, what are you getting behind? Do you understand what it is you're saying? And so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and, and, and, and, the, the, the condition, the condition, the condition, the condition, the condition, the condition, the're saying? And so it's just a, the condition, the mental conditioning and the mindset, man, it just kind of blows me away when I, when I talk to people,

Starting point is 01:25:13 because literally when I talk to people now, I got a talking code and mention certain things to see where they're at. Because, you know, I got black friends and, dude, if I say, hey, man, you know, that guy had a, he had a truck with a flag. Oh, I got a truck with a flag. Watch out, watch out, man. I'm like, watch out for what, man? He got a flag in a truck, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:25:32 theymea's, you know what I mean? It's like, you guys are buying into that? That's what you're doing, man. I mean, he got people where you can't even have an American flag or if you say, hey man, I agree with the Constitution, you're anti-American. What is it? Patriot. The word patriot Chelsea Handler say you like Joe Bind say it if you don't vote for Joe Bine you're not black what are you talking about what are you talking about there's so much stuff that Chelsea handler used to do on her show that if it came out she would be canceled now she's lecturing people on racism get the fuck out of here dude and like the way that like the like certain a portion of the black community

Starting point is 01:26:31 celebrated Joe Biden I mean we talked about earlier the crack laws destroyed the black community Camilla Harris has arrested and put in prison more black people than any other human being in the history of California. Bragged about smoking weed on power 106 while she locked people up for weed. It's like unbelievable. What do you think that's about? Why does the black community have such loyalty to the Democratic Party? It's identity politics. It's all identity politics. Because what happens is the older generations, their mothers remember a different Democratic party.

Starting point is 01:27:10 They've been taking them for granted though for decades now without giving them anything at all, the Democratic Party to the Black community. Nothing, but because, and you look at it in LA, you're like California. Like, dude, you have a segment of society that because they work in Hollywood or they work in these really, they're never feeling any of these economic downfalls or downturns that everyone else is feeling. So they are allowed to keep voting for these ridiculous laws.

Starting point is 01:27:38 As they complain about crime in Beverly Hills. I hope every, like I have friends in Beverly Hills, I'm sorry, we need a giant crime surge for you guys to actually feel the fucking effects of how you're voting. You got, I mean, I'm sorry, dude. I feel that's a similar to saying like when you hear somebody say I want the economy to get worse, you know what I mean? So that we can get Trump out or what I mean? Because that we can get trump out or whatever to me. I mean, I don't, because people could die in a crime. I'm with you, but what's gonna make these guys stop voting for the same people the voting for? Stop thinking that voting, you have to vote Democrat because, oh, what the Republicans went. The Democrats have been winning for fucking decades and everything is crap. That's just gonna take new new people I'm afraid. I don't know. I don't know how, you know, you talk about Beverly Hills,

Starting point is 01:28:28 man, I don't know how people can just think that it's OK to have, like he said, people running an ultra CBS. My friend was in Sprouse the other day. He said he's seeing somebody come in and just walk out with some milk, man. He looked at him like, damn man this is Sprouse I mean they're not they went from Safeway and Ralph's to now Sprouts I mean it's like who who does that when you have a place where people can just you know think you could walk this my house and walk in or you know I've seen a video theyre to their tel you know I'm gonna to the girl in the face, this might have filmed it. Dude, who said that's normal? Now, if you beat, if me and you beat the hell out of that dude,

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Starting point is 01:29:52 about California has become feudalism and we're allowing this this narrative to be pushed by rich kids. Like I got an argument again with Dana who I I love with all my heart but we were I'm like she went to turn on vice I'm like turn off vice. She's like why what's wrong advice I go ah it's rich white kids try and convince everybody that poor white kids are the problem. The new vice is barstool by the way that that's what I realize the other day they're doing travel mags now the stile and stuff in that old th is th is th is th is th is th is th. thi. thi. That's thi. That's thi. That's they's they's they's thi. That's they's thi. That's they's they's they're doing. they're doing. they's they's they's they're doing they're doing. they're doing. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's thi. thi. thi. I I I I I I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer. thi. theeeeeeeee. they're doing they're doing they're doing they're style. Yeah. You think it'll be a matter of time to Barstool becomes vice? You think it's just a matter of time? They're coming and buy and it'll just destroy it because they're using Fed funny money. That's all they're doing. That's all they're doing.

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Starting point is 01:35:40 Your heritage is great. Dude, we can we we can can get into how like, hey guys, not all African Americans came over in slave ships. There were fucking tribes here's Amores. Why don't they ever tell you about that? How powerful that tribe was. Why don't they ever tell you about that? Because they want to live, go on. No, no, you're right. They don't want you to know like before Columbus there were the blacks living here free. Yeah

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Starting point is 01:37:28 if you don't teach your kids and you don't show them, hey man, like he said, not everybody was a slave. Not everybody came from this. Some people have this, the wars had this. They're a great kingdoms. And dude, there was not only were slavery over here, slavery was eradicated here, but we got slavery right now in Libya. We got slavery going on in China. Yes. Well, human rights violations all day. Nobody's talking about that.

Starting point is 01:37:51 I mean, dude, so when you talk about like, you know, black all, dude, do you know they wiped out 30 million during the Bolshevik revolution and Russia just starved them out? I mean, they suffered same type of thenesty, but they bounce back. So what is our thing? Why are we still stacking time, still waiting around? What are you waiting for? Go get it. Stop making excuses. But the victim mentality keeps the money going for all these fundings, all these programs,

Starting point is 01:38:17 all the stuff is part of the narrative. Because once you get that, the boogie man's gone. There's nothing left. Yeah. And you know what man, you know, dude, the, you know, African Americans, Africans, whatever we want to come back, very powerful man. And that's why there's been such a giant push. Everybody's powerful. Every group is powerful. Everybody has wonderful history that is being rewritten and hidden from them about how part, because they don't want you connecting with your ancestors. They don't want you finding out how powerful you are and how you have everything you need to

Starting point is 01:38:55 save yourself. They don't want you to know that. They want you to become dependent on the state. And then these people who just become, they're just all liars man. Not everybody is a liar, but these people for a paycheck, what they're willing to do to their fellow men is so disgusting. And we just see it over and over again, man. We have to become accountable. The best way to make change is to change yourself. Take control of your life. And you know, all this quick shit. All this quick stuff is purposefully done to make to to to to to to to to to to to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make to make the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. But their. But their. But their. But their. But their. But their their their their their their their their their their their thea. thea. thea. thea. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And you know all this quick shit, all this quick stuff is purposefully done to make it easy

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Starting point is 01:42:13 Hey, stop pushing your cultural Marxism on us. What you want to do where you and God. I can't, I'm not gonna condemn you and I'm not gonna promote it either. You do you whatever you want as long as you're not hurting people in particular children. I'm not, I don't want anything to do with it. Honestly you're doing them a favor by telling them that because they're they're gonna punt every election from here to eternity if they keep this shit up. Yeah, there's just no way the Democrats. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thathea, thathea, thatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheat. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that. I that. that. that that that that that that that that that thoooooooooooooooooooooo. that, which you have to win. They're going to try to by rigging it again. That's the only way, though. Yeah, by cheating. Like, they were with the Biden.

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Starting point is 01:43:27 That's what happens. Eventually they come in there and they kneecap your culture and they push you down a bad step. So we should be like, hey everybody, guess what? Black Wall Street, guess what that was a precursor to? And that was the playbook for 9-11. They did the exact same thing in 9-11, cause a giant scene wet and killed a bunch of people for their oil. That's really what is happening and it happens all

Starting point is 01:43:51 the time. Big Herc, is there anything we didn't cover that you'd like to cover? Well, you know, you're talking about Black Wall Street? What about the Tuskegee? One hundred percent? What about the water Detroit? I mean, so this day, yeah You know what I mean, they still doing the same shit and they act like it's nothing I mean they they know by some you know these different subtle ways whether the water supply Whether it's like you said experiment with these these these pot these airmen who were syphilis and seeing how long they can survive. I mean, dude, I mean, if you don't question when these people tell you something, then you're a damn fool, man.

Starting point is 01:44:33 I mean, I question everything, you know, I'm not, it's not like I can't read myself and come to a conclusion. So for somebody to tell me something and just be obedient, I've never been that kid. And that's been one of my things. I always question stuff, man. But yeah, it's, you know, it's like I said, going back to what we said about the narrative and how they want us, they all be at each other and have no communication. You know, I always tell people, man, you know, I always tell people, man, you know, thi thu thu. thu. thu.. thi people thi people thi people thi people thi people thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi people, thi. to to to to to to to to to to to say, to say, to say, to say people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people, tell people, tell people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi people, thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to say, to say, to say, to me to say, to me, to say, to say, to say, to say, to to to talk to people, it opens up a different vibration and people realize, man, you know, you're not what I assumed. You know, I thought everybody was this way

Starting point is 01:45:09 or I thought everybody was that way. And a lot of times, most people, you know, I'm like, dude, have you ever talked to somebody who's actually from China, or somebody who's from the Armenian community or Hispanic, have you ever, you know, people, because they have all these assumptions, but they have no direct interaction. So the best interaction is, like you said, it's not black culture, white culture, it's American culture, and all these things make up American culture, but we need to have a conversation, you know, and we have this conversation like we're having here,

Starting point is 01:45:42 it opened up other doors, but that's the thing. Nobody wants to do that without somebody yelling over and or throwing a brick at somebody or being disrespectful. We can have a respectful conversation with these young kids now, these people who are yelling at the top of her lungs, is my right? I mean, dude, is that how you talk? You don't know how to sit here and have a civilized discussion? That's the problem and they don't want that because you have a civilized discussion. People would get quiet and people don't want to hear that quietness because it makes people consciously think now. Hold on. Maybe you're right, Timfoyle, maybe there's something there I'm not paying attention to. And nobody wants that conversation, man, and that's why we're in a position we're in.

Starting point is 01:46:27 Yeah, I completely agree. I love everything you're doing big herk. Your channels are really great and you know what man. I relate to you a lot. I was kind of a crazy person back in my youth and I'm a different person now and I'm changing who I am. And I talk a lot about all the crazy stuff I did because, you know, I want people to know I was there and I did that and some people think it's weird. But I always think your secrets eventually come out. And you can either be the one to bring them out or someone else will bring them out. But they're coming out and you might as well to talk about them and let. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their thi. thi. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I to thi. I to thi. I thi. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I I I I I I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I'm toee. I'm thea. I'm theanananananananananananananananananananananankkkkkkkk. I was thea. I people know. And I think your channel is great. I think everything you're doing is great. And I appreciate your hard work and you're trying to reach out.

Starting point is 01:47:10 And I have a feeling people are waking up to everything we're talking about today. And people are really starting to understand that they got to save their self. They got to be the action hero of their their their their their their their their their their their action, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and you, and you, their, and you, and you, the action, and the action, the action, the action, and the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, the action, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their own movie and nobody's come to save you and you can't change a system that's not how this haunted house we live in works you can only change yourself and by working on yourself and working on your spirituality and connecting with God you change man and I think people fall for this these siops and they end up just getting in dark dark places and they just it's almost like they just want to numb themselves out to keep doing the things that's th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi., dark places and they just, it's almost like

Starting point is 01:47:45 they just want to numb themselves out to keep doing the things that's making them miserable. And I say change it up and work in the light, working higher frequency and make that happen. Herc, is there anything we can promote, Big Hurt? Anything else you'd like to promote? Fresh Out Series. You know, we got merch on there, workout products and, you know, stuff, hats and everything. And also, Big Hurt 9116, man, my YouTube, you know, I do a lot of motivational positivity stuff

Starting point is 01:48:14 and, you know, life coaching, man, I, you know, I life coach a lot of young people, man, people in general, and just putting out a positive message saying that, you know, you can change, you know, you have choices out there, you don't have to make these decisions or be pressured into a situation, man. And, you know, there's hope at the end of the end of the tunnel man. Well, I appreciate you coming on. I look forward to hopefully down the line. We could do this again,. Hope you enjoyed this conversation. And I hope to see you in New Jersey and the

Starting point is 01:48:49 Comedy Store for Comedy Chaos. Talk to you guys soon. Take care. Everybody. Have a great day. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind.

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