Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #589: The Bock Saga With Andy Rouse, Dannunaki Dan, and Joakim Haggstrom

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? Good! Morning, Swarm and welcome to Timphal.

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Starting point is 00:01:17 we're talking about. It's an important piece of the puzzle. A little piece of the jigsaw puzzle. I feel like it goes out a lot of the jigsaw puzzle. I think it's a bit, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I, I, I, yeah, I, I, I, I, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thin, th, a, a, a th, a th, a th, a th, a th, a very, a very, a very, a very, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, a very, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, A little piece of the jigsaw puzzle. I think it's a bit, I mean, I mean, yeah, it's just box saga. Have you heard of it? Because I didn't and it is deep, bro. I mean, the things that we go into, I'm like, that is so insane, man. I hope you guys enjoy this. It's a little change of pace. But it does relate to some of the episodes that we've discussed now I want to get into something real quick before we get it There will be a lot of talk about the Catholic Church in particular the Vatican I do not equate that with Christianity. I think those are two different things. And again, I have zero problems with Christianity. And I, you know, and I really,

Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm gonna say something also, I love Catholics. I have a lot of Catholic friends. They're good people. But what the- A lot of funny people. And what they represent, what the Vatican has done in the name of Catholicism is a totalist, the the the the Christianity, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, tola, tola, I, I, to to to to to to to to to to to to told to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, I do, I do, I do, I do, I to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to ch ch. to ch. told, told, told, told, told, the the the the told, the the the the told, the the the told, told, to to to to to to the told, to the to to to the to told, to what what the Vatican has done in the name of Catholicism is a totally different thing in my humble opinion right so I want you guys do understand that when you get in to this story because it is a really

Starting point is 00:02:37 great interesting story that has reverberated through a lot of our culture in different ways and if this is true, okay? It does just basically, it's kind of like Dancook's joke about Monopoly when you're losing, it just takes the board and you flip it and you get angry, right? So that's what's gonna, it's a very interesting topic. Just to let you know how much I enjoyed it. I did buy a book. So, hope you guys enjoy this.

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Starting point is 00:09:15 We've got some, we're going deep. Please welcome to the show, Andy Rouse, Danunaki, Dan, and Jock Hegstrom. Bang or bang? Nailed it. There we go. Guys, welcome to the show. So while we go around the horn and have each one of you guys to introduce yourself. And if you have a podcast you want to promote or anything like that, and then we'll get into it. So why we start with you, Andy. What's going on? Thanks for having us, to have to have to bang. to bang, bang, bang, bang. to bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. to bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. to bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Bang. to. Bang. to bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to bang, to bang, to bang, to bang, to bang, to bang, to, to bang, to bang, to bang, to bang, to, to, to bang, to bang, to bang, to. th. th want to promote or anything like that and then we'll get into it so why don't we start with you Andy

Starting point is 00:09:48 what's going on? Thanks for having us I really appreciate it. Andy Rouse from the DeepShare podcast you can find me at the DeepShare on all the socials and everything over there I'm just talking about all my psychedelic experiences and relating it to my obsession with the ancient past, all the symbolism, esoteric stuff, things like that. So yeah, it's kind of what I'm all about. I'm really excited about it too, and I thoroughly enjoyed when you were on zero, and so I'm so happy to have you back on here.

Starting point is 00:10:18 Dan Wnaki, Dan, the greatest name in the entire planet. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Thanks man. I'm the co-host of Rising from the Ash's podcast with the Homie Romy. And we do theme months over there and we talk about all kinds of different subjects, God, spirituality, ancient history, mythology, we do theme months. So right now we're in the middle of North Month and talking about the North mythology and different aspects of that.

Starting point is 00:10:49 And that's what we do. Man you may possibly have the greatest voice for podcasting of all time. I mean that thing is soothing, dude. And I don't even like the word soothing voice. And that is the most soothing voice I've ever heard of my life. The best name, best voice, you're going to be crushing you too. And last but not least, spirited one.

Starting point is 00:11:14 Can you tell us a little bit about yourself, brother, and your podcast and everything? Well you know, I do like all kind of stuff, music, art, you know, fishing, you know. I'm just a regular Swedish guy, you know, that I'm really curious about like history and art, really. But history and art goes together here in Sweden a lot because, yeah, it's a strange country I have to tell you. I'm excited about it. I'd love to do a whole episode sometime we'll have you back on Swedish death metal. I feel like that's like really, that's a topic not a lot of people are willing to dive into the occult

Starting point is 00:11:56 symbolism in Swedish death metal, bro, they love the shred. Isn't Turbo Negro, Swedish death metal? They're like my favorite. So guys, I love that name, what is that? Turbo Black? I love that, dude. Turbo? Yeah, Turbo. Yeah, extra black. How would you like your black? Turbo? So guys, what do you want to get into today? I'm excited. We were trying to break down what we think we were going to talk about? But I'd love to hear what you guys want to talk about. We're bringing a story to you guys from Finland called the Box Saga and it's basically an entirely different cosmology. It's an entire different human history than we've heard. It ties into so many different rabbit holes and conspiracies that we are familiar with

Starting point is 00:12:45 and kind of unifies it all in its own way. So it's pretty crazy. So where do we start with this? Because I'm going to be honestly, I've never heard the box saga. And I'm very interested, as you know, I mean, you may not know, I'm very much into hidden history. It's probably my favorite topic of all the topics. I think it's very important. Because once you start looking into hidden history and then you start looking at cultural Marxism, you start going, what else are they lying to us about? And why are they

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Starting point is 00:14:14 southern families as I see it. So it's all about this hidden, hidden war between the largest or the different forces as I used to call them. For instance, like the hidden forces and the more Christian forces. I used to distinings that. So yeah, it's a lot about the hidden hand throughout history also. So it's a very interesting topic to get into. I'm very excited about any thoughts, Daninaki. Daninaki. Yeah, man. You know, we, when I formed the show arising from the ashes, I reached out to Yake right away and was able to get his information from Chance Garten and we connected and we started

Starting point is 00:15:03 talking about the box saga because I was super interested in it. I think it explains a lot of the history that we don't know about because it got wiped out, you know, from the Christians and from the Catholics. The whole pagan history is kind of, you know, turned into and flipped upside down and become Satanism or some evil thing, which, which doesn't necessarily have to be that way. Alchemy was like the ancient technology and magic that existed back then. And we've lost a lot of this and that's why we can't understand a lot of the things in ancient times because it's been completely wiped out all the books and everything.

Starting point is 00:15:42 All the, you know, they go in and they take over people, they burn all their books, they burn all their history and then they have no history, and then they force feed you the history they want you to know. And so this box saga kind of gives you a back story of that history and where it comes from. And so I was really stoked told, I talked to Andy about the box saga, and he got super interested and the three of us formed another podcast called Roots of Creation, which we have three episodes on, and we're kind of slow rolling that a little bit. But there's, there's some episodes out, and we talked to some people that have been very close to the box saga, and they get to tell their story story........ And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, their, their, their, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they get to tell their story and it's been a very fascinating experience for all of us, yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:29 All right, man, I'm in Andy. Where do you want to start with basically kind of giving everybody a picture of what the world looked like in this beginning time as they say. They called it Paradisette, Paradise Time, and in this cosmology, the earth was not tilted on its axis in the beginning. It was straight up and down, and this supposedly created sunlight in the north, 24 hours a day, basically like a paradise. And Yake, do you want to fill in there a little bit?

Starting point is 00:17:08 Or am I doing all right? I just jumping straight into the mythology. But yeah, I was just, if they have never heard about box saga, they should at least know that this is based on a sound system. And it has also a history connected to it but basically what the box saga is is the Swedish alphabet and every letter has like a meaning and this constructs like a system that is also a civilization foundation. So what Andy was jumping into is like the in the mythology in the paradise as we call it, as we call it in, in the the, in the mythology, in the paradise or

Starting point is 00:17:47 paradise as we call it, in Swedish. And it's the period before the Ragnaruk, because in this story there has been three major Ragnarok, or Ragnarok, what you say, but it's called Ragnaruk. And it's basically a destruction or a cataclysm. So the paradise time is a time over 50 million years ago it ended when the earth tilted over. The first Ragnarock. So we're talking like, you know, basically a cataclysmic event That basically destroyed everything or just completely changed how this planet was operating? It tilted the earth and caused the ice age in this story they say the entire galaxy system changed. Yeah, the entire galaxy tilted and it's something shifted entirely.

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Starting point is 00:22:01 And it's very hidden, you could could say but it's so far different from what we are used to today but anyway it explains how things worked back in the paradise and the entire planet was tropical according to this mythology and on the top because the earth was you know they have a Earth cosmology that we are actually living on a planet. So it was standing straight up and down like this, so you would have 24-hour sunlight on top. So this is called the Midgord or Midgard and the Oz people or the Oster family lived there who was like the ruling elites of that time. And is there documents that that make you believe that these people existed?

Starting point is 00:22:53 Is there stuff that that or has this been handed down from generation to generation? Yeah, it's an oral story passed down. Yeah, so I mean obviously most of it is anecdotal but when we connect everything. It's an oral story passed down. Fear is one family. Yeah. So I mean, obviously, most of it is anecdotal, but when we connect everything, it's a very deep well, as I say, it's a lot to get into, but just to, that's why we wanted to kind of give you guys an overview of the cosmology. No, no, no, no, I just want to get a grasp of what's going on. So yeah, continue.

Starting point is 00:23:25 Sorry about that. What's what I'm going to say? You can continue and now I have to. All right, I'll keep going. I'm looking at Yake because he's the expert. I'm like, all right. Am I doing all right? Am I doing all right? the paradise time, yeah. What was the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. these concentric ring cities, very familiar ringlands.

Starting point is 00:23:49 And these ringlands, every concentric ring was like a different cast and everything operated very methodically in these systems. The original one is in this north, this north pole. But before the earth was tilted in the paradise time, that was Hell-sinky, or what was formerly just known as Hell. So now we start to see the famous inversion stuff that we always see in these rabbit holes and stories. That's where the first one is for me.

Starting point is 00:24:18 That was what caught my eye was, Hell was up north in a cold place rather than in a hot place down below. Whoa! Yeah, but the thing is, when it talks about Helsinki, that's actually Finland, but since 1250, Sweden and Finland was the same country. So when I say Sweden, I also sort of include Finland because it was the same empire. But from this mythology perspective, you know, that's the curious thing about box saga because when you start to test it and you know try to find like evidence that support the

Starting point is 00:24:57 box saga, that's when stuff is going to get interesting. I've been always like very skeptical like very very skeptical and it's when it starts to get interesting. Because I've been always like very skeptical, like very, very skeptical. And it's when it starts to disprove the story that you're going to get like, oh my God, you know, what the fuck? Everything seems to line up so perfectly when this are going to try to, like, research every aspect of what this guy E. Bok has been handing down to to try to like research every aspect of what this guy E.R. Bok has been handing down to the people that you know I have been gotten the saga from and etc. So it's an oral tradition and people can say like you

Starting point is 00:25:38 know we do this kind of test in school when we say something in one guy's air and you go in a circle and it completely different in the end you know they try to yeah they try to like disprove that oral thinks you know that is gonna turn out completely different from where it began but in the box saga and the unique thing is that we get this sound system that is like an anchor because if you start to mess around with the sound saga, the unique thing is that we get this sound system that is like an anchor, because if you start to mess around with the sound system and turn the sound system, the ring won't be complete in the letter or the alphabet.

Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah. Because it's very like specific how the alphabet is operating because you have like 22 letters in a ring that you can like wobble and it's of course with the Swedish alphabet and they use the Swedish alphabet also in Finland is basically the same language but different dialect. Hold on, hold on, let me let me understand something. Listen I make no illusions. I flunk first grade so I have to digest what you're saying here so so so so no no no no no you're doing a great job I just I have to digest what you're saying here so so no no no no you're doing a great job I just I have to digest what you're saying here so you're saying a sound system in terms of what how you pronounce the letters or a

Starting point is 00:26:55 literal sound system I'm sorry about that I need to I need to understand that so when you where you're from there how how the alphabet work has has to be very specific in order for it the work is that what you're that that that th you th you th you th th th you you th you you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thei to theiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii tha tha thi the thi the alphabet work has to be very specific in order for it to work? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, exactly, because it balanced itself. For example, if you take the first letter in this alphabet is an E, and it means like inside, and A is a author, and B is B or a boryury which means a castle and C means to cut Shara and so it goes and together it becomes like E. Also sarsh body like inside Alsace castle so you're gonna extract the story from the alphabet. Wow

Starting point is 00:27:38 Okay, that makes sense and it expands out fractally from there like every the rest of the story continues in these rules. And it's been described even mathematically, like it self-checks itself. And because it's an oral tradition, and it's all about how everything is pronounced, if you know the sound system and you know this language, this root language, you know when something is a lie when it doesn't fit into the saga. Whoa, that's cool as shit. So hold on, so is it, is it the saga follows the alphabet?

Starting point is 00:28:14 Is that what we're talking about? Yes. Yes. Wow. I just got chills. Yeah, isn't it called Alferernus beton which means like rhyme of the all father yes sounds just like alphabet alfaranas be that you can say you know it is the alpha bete a beet means pasture also is the alpha's pasture it's the

Starting point is 00:28:38 knowledge of kings you know the herder wow that is pretty bad as the because it comes from the top fash you know it's the knowledge of kings you know the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tof of tofs. tofs. tofs. tonse. tonse. tonse of tonse of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the herder. Wow, that is pretty bad-ass. Because it comes from the top family, the top author family, you know, from the hithendom. And this is the tool that only the author was supposed to have according to the mythology. And they gave it to the world with Eve, and it was planned like a thousand years back that he was supposed to the mythology. And they gave it to the world with Ea, and it was planned like a thousand years back that he was supposed to do so. Yeah, he promised that only, I think it's like 1984 he broke the story. And that was contracted a thousand year back,

Starting point is 00:29:19 that he was supposed to do so. So it's very interesting. You know, this guy, E. or he had to sit two hours each day with with his mom and her sister, learning this story for 20 years. So it's a... Oh my God, so for a thousand years, it was contracted that this specific guy would have to tell this specific story? Yes. The last remaining Bach? Yeah, your Bach. He comes from the old Finnish kingline that you know has been in hiding since the Catholics came because they really wanted to get rid of the the heathen king or the you know the they were really the last remnants of it and this is where we come we of the the hidden king or the you know the they were really the last remnants of it and this is where we come we get the Santa story in all of

Starting point is 00:30:10 this because it comes from Finland also in his exile he's up in the very north you know because he used to go around with a sled and eight goats because the goat is the symbol of Lemankind that's a title in the Hedon. But when Lemankind becomes old, he gets the gubbe or grandfather title. But when he was in the far north in Lapland, he had eight rinders instead that were pulling his sled. And people were sending letters to him and tokens, you know, to remind him that they are missing him and all of this, you know, so it sort of ties into the, you know, it makes

Starting point is 00:30:54 a little bit. That is crazy, dude. So this, this, this, this, or a bach? Is that how you are? E. O. Yor? Okay. He was the last of the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. the line. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He. He. He. He. He. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He. He. He was. He was. He. He was. He was. He. He was. He was. He. He was. He. He was. He. He-Poor. Yeah. Okay. He was the last of the line. He never had children or anything like that? No children. Not what we know.

Starting point is 00:31:10 Oh my. Oh, my God. Yeah. So, so the reason I really believe. Well, this is a fascinating story and it's amazing. And the reason I buy into a lot of what you're talking about is because when you take a look at like St. Patty's Day, right, I mean we think it's just about drunk, you know, lepricons and stuff and reality it is

Starting point is 00:31:37 about St. Patrick's going to Ireland and killing the pagans. Yeah, That is what the story of St. Patty's Day. It is a celebration of genocide of a particular religious group. And you know, so I know when we brought up Christians and Catholics early, there's going to be some people that might have a pushback on that. But I mean, it's like, really, we have to take a look at like what is the Catholic Church doing to this day? What is it done? How come you know I mean Rome fell maybe or did they just reorganize how they operated with instead of having to have armies everywhere, why not shut that down and open up churches that could be basically, you know,

Starting point is 00:32:27 franchises in every place. And when we take a look at, you know, where the Nazis ran to after World War II, they ran to the Vatican, right? What did they set up? CIA, Massad, MI6, and then you have all these organized crime units are all organized crime Italians. Italians, I agree, Italians, right? They're all Catholic-based.

Starting point is 00:32:58 So the notion that this would, that this is a crazy, it's like, no, man, this totally fits in to the, the modus apparandae of totally fits in to the modus operandi of the Vatican and they're, the way they've operated with pushing, like literally, they are the ones who, and again, zero problems with the Bible, but you know, the truth is that they were the ones who went around and and be into everybody that we had to take it literally. Well, I mean, they're they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their own own own own own own own th. th. th. the. their their their their their their their their their their their their the ones who went around and be into everybody that we had to take it literally. Well I mean, they're their own country. What do you expect?

Starting point is 00:33:30 They're own territory. Yeah, you can't get them out. You can't do nothing. The Vatican's there. Yeah. Let me tell you a little from the Bok family that took power in the 1500s and created like the Swedish Empire. So they were basically the Bok family taking power again after the Catholic control for like

Starting point is 00:33:56 500 years. But they were like the spearheads of the Protestant movement because Sweden became 100% Protestant. the leadership of the of the Vasa Kings they call them and they 100 years Oh no, oh no, oh no, in the 1600s They charged straight fucking into Europe kicked every fucking bishop out from the Catholic church, liberated Europe from the Catholics. And you see they have the ties to the box family. So it's kind of interesting to see what they are doing because you can research the Vasa family quite extensive. And when you know that those secret societies that they were created because the temple are orders and all of these are hidden in origin if you ask me, especially because there

Starting point is 00:34:45 were other orders also popping up in the South, but they were like the Freemason Network started here like over a thousand years ago in Sweden. So it's a very interesting journey to follow because it leads up even to the day. Yeah. I've been calling it like the oldest family feud. Yeah. Because if we follow the saga it really is all from the sago it is all. It's the the the the the the the the the south, it, it, it is the the the south, it is all, it is all, it is all, it is all, it is all, it is all, it is all the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the south, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the south, the south, the south, the south, the south the south the south the south, the south the south the south up the south, the south up up up up up up up up up up the south, the south, the south, the south, the the the the the th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. theea. But thea. But, thi. But, thi. But, the oldest family feud. Yeah. Yeah. Because if we fall the saga, it really is all from this one earth family from Paradise time before everything falls apart in the next time period, which if you guys are down to talk about Atlantis in a different way.

Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, we're sort of sliding off. I wasn't like, no, no, no. Let's let. Okay. We're going to say wherever you guys want to stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay stay to stay to stay to stay to stay. slide it off. I was like, no, no, no, let's let, okay, we're gonna say wherever you guys want to stay because I find this stuff so interesting, man. The interesting thing, where do you know, and they had like this long list of topics we're going to talk about and I was just thinking man, we're gonna only like, gonna pass four or five so, that's fair. That's fair. We're cool with whatever you guys want to do because I'm loving this dude and you know again I'm gonna shut up after this, but you know, I mean you'd also take a look at like England This is a very similar story to what England did and like it wasn't necessarily the Catholic Church, but in coordination with the Black Nobility these groups went in and they basically killed the Royals and replaced them with Rothschild Bloodlines and a German royal

Starting point is 00:36:06 family that wasn't the authentic Royals to the British throne. They do this all the time. Yeah. But at least back then. Sweden fell in the 1800, beginning of the 1800s by the Illuminati or the Illuminumines Forces. That's a, the French Revolution seems to be the wipe out of the aristocrat Aristocrat, aristocrat, aristocrat. Yeah, aristocrat.

Starting point is 00:36:34 Aristocrat. The aristocracy, they were taking out their aristocracy. 100% man, you see this game plan over and over again. Yeah, and there I wrote Aristocrat. The aristocracy, they were running the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the're I wrote aristocrat the aristocracy they were running the Templar networks and it's fucking interesting because Sweden made the first central bank in the world and I saw a quote when the Chinese came here like in the I don't know exact date but they called it the power center of the Western world, Stockholm because they have it the power center of the Western world, Stockholm.

Starting point is 00:37:06 Because they have, even today with the Ericsons, they have the biggest telecom company, which is real information gathering in the world. And it's all based on the old, you know, power structures from the remnants of the Templar War. They just pile it up. and it all leads to fucking Stockholm because it was the power source of the Protestant movement really. It's interesting. It is really interesting. I mean like you read about Jesuits, there's a book that breaks down all the Jesuits. I mean, and the first page is just timelines of Jesuits assassinating Royals and it was like, Royals were like rappers just off, off, off, off, off, off,

Starting point is 00:37:54 replaced, off, I mean dude they were just taking out Royals left and right. Yeah, yeah, because they were just the belief to be the direct descendants of God. Tells you where the power is, right? Who's killing whom? Yeah, dude. Yeah, but this is how you follow the struggle. I think, it's like the, you get a really clear perspective, if you understand that level of the game, I think, because it's getting very clear that there are opposing forces. Of course it's just not too, but I don't know too much about the sudden stuff with the religious, the Muslims and this. I sort of stay clear of that.

Starting point is 00:38:33 I just focus on the North. We're cool with that. So where do you want to get back into? I feel like I just, like I do every show. Dan, Dan, jump in. You wanted to say something before too. Dan always, yeah, we were talking about the tilt and how everything, the universe tilted and this caused the ice age.

Starting point is 00:38:54 So when the earth tilted, it caused seasons to form and it all the lands around Helsinki froze over, and this is where we get Altland East, which means all land is ice, so Poland, England, Ireland, Scotland. All the lands became ice surrounding this Helsinki area. And there was a gulf stream coming up from South America up through the Atlantic and up into that area that was keeping that area warm so the ice wasn't freezing hell over, so hell couldn't freeze over. And this whole thing was able to create innovation by these people in there who were secluded

Starting point is 00:39:44 from the rest of the world because there was a giant ice wall encircling this land of Helsinki. Yeah for hundreds a mile, like they were trapped there, there was no escape for supposedly according to the saga it's like thousands and thousands of years. Millions. We have to clarify, you know, in the paradise in this mythology, the human race were like this one race or they looked all the same. So when the first Ragnarok happened, we got this separation of the human race.

Starting point is 00:40:20 So because they had a breeding system that were keeping the entire globe intact, so to speak, genetically. We are very strange, what they were calling the money, or the money system that they had before. But that's a heavy topic to get into. But my point is that we got separated because every, in this system, there are two classes of people and they are called author and the varner people. And if you look at the alphabet, that goes, if you look at it from the box saga perspective,

Starting point is 00:40:59 it starts with an E, and ABC, E, F, G, L, M, O P, PD-U-B-A-A-P-C and it rotates around, so it goes via V-I-A-B-C. So in this system explains that everything has to go via the ASEA. So they were really the, what you call it, the power-based, or they determined every move across the entire globe, like a world order you could say. And when that got cut off, that's when we got in this story ten different kingdoms, tropical kingdoms. Outside the ice. Yeah, ten different races like the Hindu are one and the Asians are obviously one and so forth. And then you have the the other people trapped in the ice on top. The rest of the planet thinks they are dead and gone. But in the story they survived and they turn pale because of the ice surrounding and the situation there with very little light and that's how the white race

Starting point is 00:42:13 came into being and like 10,000 years ago when the ice sort of had melted off the acer and the vaneer met again or you know like but that's a further in the Acer and the Varner met again, or you know, like, but that's a, that's a further in the story because that's like a new era or a new epoch, you could say. So, so this one group lived in this area, that was Helsinki, is that correct? That was surrounded by ice for like thousands or millions of years? Yeah. And then... The whole long ice age lasted.

Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah, 50 million. In this story they say so. Okay. And so after the ice age, so, the ice age, they, the, everything melted. the thing about the ice age? And then... We are now still an ice age.

Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah, I little bit of it. Yeah. But anyway, the thing about the Atlantis period, all land ice period, they call it Atlantis, or Altantis. Alt, in Swedish means all, land is land, and ease, ice. But anyway, they developed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. That. T. T. T. T. T, the the the the the the the the the the the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the thing. The the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thing. thing. thing. thing. thi. thi. thi. th. T. thi. the thi. the the anyway they developed agriculture. Hold on. Are you telling me Atlantis was all ice? Time period. Well Atlantis was a time period not a location. That's why we find multiple, you know,

Starting point is 00:43:39 pieces of anecdotal evidence from here, there, everywhere all over the northern hemisphere for where Atlantis may have been. Because this Oser system that had the concentric rings, these concentric ring systems, according to the Box Saga, were speckled all over the planet. So throughout the lands. So the NOSER. They were the normal or the north, what you call mall, it's like a template in Swedish. Normal, north, north, north, mall.

Starting point is 00:44:14 So we have, and Johnny, anybody want to jump in. So we have these rings because I'm just trying to present what we're learning here. Can I ask, do you guys have any art of this that you could share? I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I could the the the the the the the th. I could to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to call to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. their try. their try. their to their try. to to to to to tell. to to to to to to to to tell just trying to present what we're learning here. Can I ask do you guys have any art of this that you could share? I could I could turn on sharing. Is there anything that will give us a? We can give you the alphabet. That would probably be something we can share. And this is based off flat earth, right?

Starting point is 00:44:37 Nope. No. No. That's what the whole point of tilting of the earth away away from from from from from from now where it is today. This is a glow model. Yes, okay, so. Dun, done, so I am trying to, so there was this area that was seen as, and this was, so Atlantis was after. If you guys have anything that's a lesser to please bring it up, I turned on sharing. Visuals, yeah, visuals anything. So this is a lot of a the the the the the the the the the th. So th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is a lot. this is a lot. th. So, th. So, this is a th. So, this is a th. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, so. So. So, so. So, so. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. this is is a. this is a. this is a. this is a. this is a. this is a. this is a. this is. this is a. this is. this is. this is. this is. So, this is up. I turned on sharing. Visuals, yeah, visuals, anything. So this is a lot of where the, I think, the flat earth kind of paradigm comes in is with some of these ancient cities depicting this flat land surrounded in ice.

Starting point is 00:45:17 I think what they're actually trying to depict was this acer land and the stories of the kingdom of heaven is they're trying to show you that this is where the acer were at, not necessarily that everything was flat and surrounded by ice, but this area was, and it was a highly renowned area. This is where, you know, the kings and the giants and whatever else came from and and and so the angels and all that stuff so yeah arc angels why yeah the arc it's all about arctic oh man it's so much showing on right now I'm trying to digest it to digest yeah that's the point that's why it's why it's fucking

Starting point is 00:46:02 insane yeah it will drive you not trying to sweenage I'm surrounded by the mythology it's in every fucking today years figure. Yeah, it will drive you nuts. Imagine having the fucking Swedish. I'm surrounded by the mythology. It's in every fucking name of everything, man. Yeah, it's nuts. It really is, man. So I'm trying to get timelines here. So, so, so.

Starting point is 00:46:20 So, this story begins where? Where? Just, bear with me. So this story begins where? Just how just bear with me right now. In Helsinki, okay? Helsinki is the top. The garden of heathen. Of these rings, right? This ring of Odin. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:38 Of this. This ring of, uh, um. Like, picture Atlantis, the typical Atlantis picture that you see that's probably a decent example at least for this hypothetical example okay and every layer is what of this rings of these ring there's rings in the cast system of a cast system of of of everywhere from Kings the peasants is that what we're talking about? Not really.

Starting point is 00:47:07 Okay. Yeah. It's a very, very complex system. And the symbology that they were using were like clubs, lances, swords, shields, helmets. You know, all those kinds of contributions to the community or the the Empire or whatever was there would that be a little like every every ring had its purpose? Yes, okay, of course. All right, so now we're starting and this starts somewhere and goes around the globe, am I? Or is it just a certain area of Earth?

Starting point is 00:47:50 So the North Pole. Okay, so the North Pole, maybe we're getting into Antarctica and stuff like that? Am I getting anywhere closer? Am I going off on the tanit. Okay, that's why I'm called the North Pole. Okay, North Pole. Stop, okay. You know the say how you make Flower of Lives, the flower of Life structure, you know, this is kind of structure, yeah, with the hexagram. Okay, you know the hexagram structure that you can get this kind of fractal, you know, expanding out with the flower of life structure. Okay, yeah, I see. I'm looking at now. That's the system. That's the system the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Stop th. Stop th. Stop thoo. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. true. true. th. the. the. the. the. the, expanding out with the flower of life structure. Okay, yeah, I see I'm looking at now. That's the system they went with, when they made a ring lens.

Starting point is 00:48:32 And the alphabet also derives from this. The flower of life where it's like the circle around and then there's all these little, like, spokes almost, you'd say, was that, no that no no no the flower of life you guys see this oh yes yeah yeah that's the ring oh this is the ring the Acer system and the North Pole is is like the prototype of all the other ring systems that existed all over the rest of the planet. So the North Pole was the prototype. Yeah, the Midgard. Yes.

Starting point is 00:49:13 The normal. Yeah. And the Midgard Serpent eating on its own tail is basically the ore of system that was keeping the civilization together with the offering system. Okay, all right. So now I'm starting to somewhat understand. Are you guys starting to understand this, okay? And this? No, I mean, I understand what you guys are saying, but I also want to get the specifics down so that we, so this ring is the story that would tell you, but is this also civilization? Am I being weird on that? That's true. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th thu. Okay, the thu. Okay, thu. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. th. Okay, the the thi. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, thi. Okay, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi.the story that would tell you, but is this also civilization? Am I being weird on that? That's true. Okay.

Starting point is 00:49:49 Okay. You have the entire structure there. All right. And were there many rings? Or is it just this ring? This is the only alphabet. This is what Ryan lines up with the core in the understanding of the whole box saga so it's

Starting point is 00:50:09 like we start with one ring and you can sort of expand this out but it has the still start with there that is the center of that is the core of that is the core of mathematics comes out of this as well. You know there was a mathematician named Cliff Barber who you know was introduced to this saga learned about this alphabet wheel and moved to a yurt and started drawing the flower of life and all these mathematical equations that he gained knowledge from this alphabet wheel. It was pretty nuts. Yeah I think this is his rendition. It might be, yeah. Because he found the alphabet inside of the flower of life also when he expanded enough. So crazy. It's so complex. It says this story suggests that they discovered mathematics or at least created the structure that we

Starting point is 00:51:01 understand it as by watching the sun go around the North Pole and the shadow of this happening or whatever. There's like a expression in the root language that that describes mathematics. I can't remember what it is. You have a circle and a pole that's the beginning of mathematics, a cue. And this it's also the beginning of us, a circle. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Circle and a pole, it's all about. And it connects to the fertility rights and everything.

Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, everything is so basic. You know, this is like on a science level, you can explain this on the core level. Okay. So we have paradise. So, everything's great. Bang, something happens. All of a sudden we're in the Ice Age, right, after the Paradise. Exactly. We're in Alpantas. Alpantis or Ice Age is very interesting because in this mythology, the living condition, obviously goes very harsh. So according to this story, they developed agriculture and domesticated animals

Starting point is 00:52:11 during this time. And when the ice sort of gone away, the ice age was melting and they could get out of this. We get the story of Noah, where it takes the animals to, because they knew that the second Ragnarek was coming because the glaciers were starting to drift. So they needed to get away from Helsinki, so they settled on Gotland, the Gaultland, Weesby. We have a cave there called Lumelunda Grototter where they found runestones or picture stones that are, you know, they are really one amazing

Starting point is 00:52:52 thing to look at because they contain the store of hell in symbolical terms and you can go to the museum in Stockholm and see it does. But anyway the story of Noah in this story he built his boat to escape the coming ice and brought the domestic animals and the author family to Gotland or the goat land. So that's like the next chapter in this. And the goat, the goat is the good land, is the godland. The goat. It's, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the next chapter in this. And the goat, the goat is the good land, it's the godland. It's, it's, yeah, it's where the acer, they came from there. And then they end up becoming the goals, right? Or the Gothi?

Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah. They become the goals or the Gothi? I think you get that the kind of, you know, architecture, design structure is a gothic, you know, this kind of gothic theme. It's a, yeah, it ties into all of this also. Very interesting. No, it's super interesting. I'm finally starting to put the pieces together and understand all this. So there's Paradise and excuse me if I keep going back to this. An event happens causes the

Starting point is 00:54:16 the ice age. Yeah, the tilt. And then we get into the ice age, okay? And land, all land is ice which becomes Atlantis. Yeah, the tilt. Yeah, the tilt. And the tilt. the the the the the the the the the tiiiii, ti. I the ti. I the the ti. I the the the ti. I the ti. I ti. I the the the ti. I ti. I ti. Yeah, the tilt and then we get into the Ice Age, okay? And land, all land is ice, which becomes Atlantis, right? Okay. I would say so. And we're still in that. Yeah. The mythology we know and except for the most part about Atlantis is mostly probably still true, like from Solon and everything. But even those ancient stories that Solon was talking about are long separated from these stories of Atlantis. So it is at some points it is a game of telephone as Yaki was saying before. Yeah, but it's interesting you can sort of see that the agriculture is coming up around 10,000 years ago on the planet also. And the interesting thing about this, the Bok family is a family and it's a very

Starting point is 00:55:09 important family obviously because they rule the earth before but anyway there are 12 boys and the seven sisters that are a part of this system and 10 of those boys when they came to Gotland. They call him the brothers in between, their thinks thin thin that are th. their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their family their family their family their family thock. They thock. They thockiiii. They're their family their family their family their family their family their family their family family family family their family their family their family their family their family their family their family their their family their of those boys when they came to Gotland, they called him the brothers in between because the first born son in the family he represents the moon and the others have sort of a, they have other functions like titles like Casar, it's a cashier in English and the secretar, like secretary, all of those kind of is coming from its titles in the in this family. Wow. But the last one is is the mole or Solboken Bald he's the he's the goat he represents the he's like the breeder you could say. He has one lance also in symbolic terms like goat he represents the he's like a breeder you could say it has one lands

Starting point is 00:56:05 in symbolic terms like I don't know if you can see this this is lemmankind this come from Russia over 200 years old actually but this interesting whoever's sharing the image could you kill that share just so we can get the full screen again of you guys there there we go bang I'm loving this so the balk family the the image could you kill that share just so we can get the full screen again of you guys? Yeah there we go bang. I'm loving this so the Bach family what's on that what's inside that the pendant or it's a shield and a lance and he's on a horse because the rider or the knight symbol is a hidden because they are the las reter we call them like race riders are a hidden is a hidden because they are the, the lands, so they are the ras ruttor, we call them,

Starting point is 00:56:47 like race riders, very, if you're translated straight over, but they are having a function within the family, or I mean the structure, the hidden structure, because it's various, you know, it's very sexual based, the entire structure the offerings are not blood if you say so but ass it's sperm and the female saw we call it this you call it sal so so so salt a new waste backwards or moss yeah okay so so so so so so the waste backw. Yeah okay so what so this this back. So this back? so so this balk family. So there's a small. So this balk. So this is. So the the the b. So the b. So the b. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So this. So, this. So, this. So, this. So, so this. So, so this. So, this. So. So, the the this. So, this. So. So. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this box. this box. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the guess that. A new way we can get away with things. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:25 Okay. So what, well, I'm still, so this Bach family ruled the world and then there was a concentrate effort through whether it's Christianity or Catholicism to basically wipe out that history? We're seeing, we're kind of seeing the beginning of that like duality that, you know, is everywhere in our culture. We constantly see that red versus blue mentality, that eagle versus serpent that we know of so well. Yes. It's that.

Starting point is 00:57:59 And when you're connecting to the tartaria. Whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. You said the magicartaria today. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Say my set of magic words there, dude. It's connected to Tartaria, dude? I have to, in a way, in a way. Okay, I was talking about the Bog family for a reason because when they came to Gotland in this story, they sent out those 10 brothers

Starting point is 00:58:22 to meet with the rest of the races, the tropical races that were still left. So, and you can, in my head, those are like the demigods that you can read about, like, you know, those Ananaki figures, for example, that are famous in the ancient cultures, lore and all of this and they are supposed to come from the heaven or the top to meet up with the rest of the of the human family so to speak and they gave the agriculture when they came also to the to the different kingdoms in this story. Yeah because if you picture, yeah, from heaven. And if you picture this isolated group existing and thriving for a long time,

Starting point is 00:59:14 while the rest of the northern hemisphere was under ice and completely decimated, you'd think that when they finally were able to re-interact with one another, they would be much more advanced for sure, and also a lot more knowledgeable. And the story goes that they had this white skin, and this is where the white race comes from, and then you start looking at Viracoccia, Kukal Khan, all the Yanonaki, all these stories about these tall whites, even the Hopi prophecies when you hear about the the the the the the shining the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Yanonaki, all these stories about these tall whites. So even the Hopi prophecies when you hear about the shining ones. And then we can get into fay folk, fair folk, white folks. That's what we're talking about.

Starting point is 00:59:56 There's so many side stories to this you wouldn't believe. I mean, the story about Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Mohammed, you know, they have a story for everything. Yeah, dude. And again, the language self-checks, so it's mind-buckling. So, so here again, I'm gonna jump, I want to finish your story, but the reason I love this is because I don't think there's one story of our history. I think there's a lot of stories that were all going on at one time and sometimes they

Starting point is 01:00:38 cross over, sometimes they don't. So if you could have the Bach family up here and Anonaki over here does not mean one story's not real and one story is. It means, you know, I just said we had somebody out talking about the black Madonna and how she represented a time through Africa and, you know, Afro-Caribibbians and stuff like yeah. I think all of this is possible because different things were happening in different parts of the world and And that these stories at some point can intertwine with each other

Starting point is 01:01:13 Of course and that there's not one story of us. That's the interesting thing about symbolism So because symbolism seems to be a universal thing like the swastika for example is very common across the entire globe. And also, like, you know, if you have traveled the world you can see similarities within all cultures, you know, especially on the symbolical level, I think. So, because this saga is very connected to symbology also. Yes. Yes. The literacy of symbolism. So this, so the ice melts or like the wall goes down enough for the Bach family to travel

Starting point is 01:01:59 to send their 10 sons out to meet with the southern civilizations. The ones that weren't affected by the ice, yeah. So and that would be the lower end, right? I mean, or after till, okay. All right. Separated for so long. They've mostly forgotten about the acer at this point, I would assume, so they don't recognize any of this coming down from the north. That's my assumption, you know, it's very similar to this ancient alien kind of theme. Yeah, we also

Starting point is 01:02:34 have like after that period, there were like two brothers jumping out that wanted by you know by the author family and one was called Sven and one was called Don and Sven he created the Asar family and one was called Sven and one was called Don and Sven he created the Swedish Empire as a so Svanskara Svanskara they calls we are called Svenskarer in Swedish and Danskar is Danish people so this they sprung out from dawn and Svenskarer dance kara dance so it's very interesting that you have a etymology there that also connects to the story and you have the symbol of the three crowns and a crown is a symbol of the king or one kingdom because you can only have one king in a kingdom so I think the

Starting point is 01:03:22 three crowns of Sweden really symbol is a symbolical reference to the three Arctic races. If you, yeah, so it's a... Wow, dude. And from the, yeah, if you go even further from the Denmark or the Denmark, they went to England and Germany and further on, and the Swedish empires went to Ireland, they went to Ireland, they went to England and Germany and further on. And the Swedish empires went to Ireland, Scotland, Iceland eventually. Yeah, they were a little bit more. But you also have the Finnish version. They went back to hell after the glaciers had come and started to rebuild hell.

Starting point is 01:04:05 And they are also the Russians. And this is where we could possibly be getting into Tataria. Yeah, Dan, you wanna kind of go down that path a little bit? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So when we get into Tartaria, I think a lot of people look at it in the wrong way. What you can see overall from Tartaria is this wipe out of the Picking culture through this Catholic regime, right? They're coming in and they're taking over everything and they're rebuilding these temples and calling them churches and whatnot. And they're kind of getting rid of the old power structure. I think when we think thi thi th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thi thi thi thi th're taking over everything and they're rebuilding these temples and calling them churches and whatnot. And they're kind of getting rid of the old power structure.

Starting point is 01:04:49 I think when we think of Tartaria, that's what Tartaria really is. They try to say that, you know, that's Tartarians are bad or whatever, but really the power structure that takes over the world is the power structure that we're still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still ruled ruled by ruled by ruled by ruled by ruled by the the the power structure that we're still currently in, which is the power structure that's ruled by the Vatican and the Church. I completely and hardly agree. And I also, if you get into some, you know, ancient, ancient, like philosophy, you know, astrology, and you get into like, I'm starting, I did a really great podcast recently, and it was about Vedic astrology. And this guy broke down, I'm getting them on the show. I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I agree, I agree, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree Vedic astrology and this guy broke down I'm getting him on the show and he broke down basically that there's like four levels to everything and at the highest is

Starting point is 01:05:37 the all and then you start going down and the bomb levels where we live and he these gods at the top have trapped these entities, you know, Satan, Moloch, all those entities. And that's why these entities hate us because they're trapped into this area. And these groups have made deals with these families that form the Black Nobility which kind of create the Catholic Church and the Vatican and that and what they represent you know Saturn worship and all that stuff like it's a deep deep deep hole

Starting point is 01:06:19 man and there has been a war between you know the Royals who are supposed to be connected to God. We have Susan Bradford on before she's talked about that. And this movement of these kind of parasite class that has been slowly but surely trying to kill off these royals and replace them with their bloodline which gets into, you know, who's behind the Vatican, in my humble opinion, and that to me is way more interesting than anything else that you really get into. Like this story, the Brock,

Starting point is 01:06:53 is like super interesting to me, and the role of the Catholic Church, and the destruction of our history. They explained the origin in the story of the church. Let's get into some of that like how it's been flipped upside down because when we think about the pagans and Satan and the devil it's all evil, it's all has this evil connotation but when you kind of go into the box saga and start to see these words and what they actually mean, there's no, it's not really evil. It's just been deemed that way. For instance, hell is, it's in the word healthy. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:37 It means complete in Swedish hell. Yeah, complete. And same with devil work right devil also means wheel the view the wheel it's about yeah Yeah, this is some pushback but I find it the wheel the ever turning wheel you know which the life wheel also references the swastika wheel this is right up Bishop Larry Gator's alley Oh dude that guy blocked me a long time ago. Yeah, that's Xavier saying this fucking stupid shit, but but so let me ask you Are there? Entities of darkness at work?

Starting point is 01:08:26 Do we have a yin and a gang light in a dark? I mean, maybe the name Satan or devil isn't, according to you guys, the exact names of evil, but are there dark intention entities here? Dark intentions for sure. Are there dark intention entities here? Dark intentions for sure. But I see the mythology. The being or the spirit thing I think is very curious. If you talk about super natural beings or spirits or under as we call it because in this story everyone was going to hell when they died, or they called Valhalla,

Starting point is 01:09:06 the Valhalla Vault, which in this story is the most sacred pagan temple of all. And it's located in Finland, and there's a team. Ior Boch actually owned the ground where the entrance to this temple was supposed to be. So they have been doing excavations ever since to try to get into the mountain there. Because in this story, it's supposed to be a storehouse, which is also the Wall Hall of Vault, because, or the Valhalla, Hall, a hall, it's the Hall of Choosing,

Starting point is 01:09:40 if you render it in English. But via the centrifugal forest that we have, all spirits we're supposed to go into the Valhall hole or the hell, because there are seven islands just outside of Helsinki, and there's a Russian museum that is supposed to be built over a hole in the ground that goes down into those chambers. But it's like a huge cavern it's supposed to be, it's supposed to be, to be built over a hole in the ground that goes down into those chambers. But it's like a huge cavern is supposed to be with like a stairway, like stairway to heaven concept. And there's supposed to be chambers for each generation or each raw. Raw is the title of the moon the moon king or the king that represents the moon the Mon Boccan in this case but anyway they make statues

Starting point is 01:10:33 of gold for each generation of the Bok family you could say and they are storing those each era has its own chamber. And if this is correct, and it has been going on for over 50 million years, according to this mythology, there are going to be a lot of treasures down there. So, yeah, yeah. And this is where it gets really interesting because... No, no, no, we're past really interesting. It's been interesting the whole time. Because they are actual pressure hunt going on in Finland where they're trying to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin, thin, thin, and it thin, and it thin, and it thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, and it has thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi and it's thi and it's th and it's th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it th and it th, and it thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thateeee an thatea. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi thi's been interesting the whole time. Because they are actual pressure hunt going on in Finland where they're trying to,

Starting point is 01:11:10 because in the box saga they talk about different places in Finland where stuff are buried from the hidden time. For example in Kayani one castle up in the very north of Finland is a castle built on a better, the river, you know, on a little island on a river. And there's a well there where there's supposed to be a tin box where like the interior of the of the king's room is supposed to be buried, I think. Oh, yeah. And there's another place where three crystal balls is supposed to be buried two, which are like very important tools. It said that one crystal is belonging to the paradise time,

Starting point is 01:11:53 and one crystal is supposed to, it's the Atlantis time, and one crystal is for the future. So it's a, you know, and they have been trying to get to those and they have, the temple is the main focus of course. They have been doing ground penetration radars there and it's an ongoing thing. They have been there this summer working on this group of people. Yeah, they have 2,500 volunteers this summer over 2,500. To search for these chambers to dig into this lemon kind. I'm bringing up a picture to mention the Lankankan Temple. It's an at the Stupa there also the suicide rock.

Starting point is 01:12:40 Right. That's that's how they did when you know they they. I spot you know, they... I spot a book at the Bach saga. The introduction? Yeah. Good. That's the entrance, yeah. That's pretty tight.

Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah. Look at the stone there in the middle. They say that the right stone there is balanced on three stones. I know Jim Chessner, he wanted to flush all the earth away so it can prove that it was it was it was that it was that it was that it was that it was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the right stone there is balanced on three stones. I know Jim Chessner, he wanted to flush all the earth away so he can prove that it was balanced on three stones because you can find this all over Finland like huge stones balanced on three stones, like a really cool thing. Do what, they're saying that's like man-made in a way? Yeah, this.

Starting point is 01:13:21 No, the cavern is a natural phenomenon. In this story, when the earthers created, this cavern was also created in the process. Yeah, this is their rendition of like, you can't really see it. But yeah, Eorbach drew it all out, like exactly what they were going to find as they started to dig, and they have had a couple confirmations on certain things. And also like that, that castle you mentioned, you, you, the castle, the castle, the castle, the castle, the castle, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the theufeufeufeususususususus thus thus thus thus thus thususus the earth's the earth's the earth's the earth's their first their first their first their first their first their first their first their first their first their first their first their their their their their th. their th. their their their their th. their the. the. the. the is the is thea.a.a. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thorou. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. they started to dig. And they have had a couple confirmations on certain things. And also like that, that castle you mentioned up north. When we talked to one of our guests on routes of creation, he was saying that they were able to do like ground penetrating radar,

Starting point is 01:13:59 or something like that, or something and get images underground, and they found these like a tin box under there exactly as the count they can't dig they don't have not allowed to do they want to shut this down they have been under so much attack from the government and even American forces trying to fucking put a lid on this thing why are Americans try to do it I'm tell you bro th that that predator class man those parasites thir th th thinks thus thinks thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thous th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. the. thi. the. tho. th. th. that th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the. the. they're theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat. they're they're not. they're not. they're not. they're not. telling you, bro, it is all that, that predator class, man, those parasites. They don't want to, you know, this, if they open it and you get into the temple, there's

Starting point is 01:14:34 going to fucking flip world history. Yeah, it's going to be Nicholas's, Nicholas Cage's best movie ever, like the next national treasure, international treasure. Yeah, I'm just sitting and waiting for them to get the sign because I already have like a confirmation that there's something going on here because when they were starting to dig, Eel said it was gonna be like three stone blocks blocking the entrance, covered with mud between them in three different types of stone. And when they started to drill drill they found the three fucking stone slabs and when they got past them they found a shakerboard to the left carved into the mountain inside so there's something there for sure. I mean like all of this stuff like you talk about how they don't want to do any

Starting point is 01:15:24 excavation in in Egypt because they don't want to do any excavation in Egypt because they don't want to change timelines of what is going on. And again, predator class. There's a reason why all these elites are related. They're all part of this predator class that doesn't want us to know our history and not know how powerful we are, where we live in, what it represents, why we're here, the whole points. But it would have to change everything.

Starting point is 01:15:57 School books, the Bible, it would fuck shit up. The pressure is already there. I have confirmation from within the academic, what they call it, the ecological community here in Sweden. There's so much they have been building up. And there's like a gap between the government and those departments that have been finding new stuff. And already now they're all like on the brink because they are, you know, they have been finding stuff that upsets the the the the the the the time line time line the the time line the the time line the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theyaqinedemeanine, theymeaq. they. I they. I they. I they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I they. Yeah. Yeah. I they. Yeah. I they. I they. I they. I. I they. I. I. I. I theynenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenenene. I. the ty. ty. ty. ty. tymea. ty. ty. ty. ty on the brink because they are, you know, they have been finding stuff

Starting point is 01:16:25 that upsets the timeline already. So this would just be a fucking nuclear blast. So let's get back into the story real quick because I feel like I might have once again knocked us off the path. But, so the 10 brothers go and meet with the southern tribes, let's say, the southern civilizations. What happens at that point? Well, could I say just that, you know, think of the Nephilim story?

Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, this, this biblical story of the sons of gods coming down to the, thousand think of the Nephilim story. You know this this biblical story of the sons of gods coming down to mate with the daughters of men. This again relates directly to this long-time meeting between these two separated groups of people. Now who are the daughters? Were they the box or were they the I don't know who who were the daughters and who are the daughters? Were they the box or were they the Anonah? Who were the daughters and who are the gods? Well, I mean, this is just me speculating that it, you know,

Starting point is 01:17:30 that story lines up and the daughters of men. Just a metaphor saying that the North finally remit themselves, basically. Yeah, when they say heaven, it can easily be just on the top also because it's up there. I mean the translation over translations of a translations of text sort of distorts the original intent also behind. So that's the complicated thing when you go too far back with text that it has been translated so many times all over. So it sort of loses the root a little bit.

Starting point is 01:18:07 I would say what you start to have happen is you've heard of like these cargo cults, right? And you see these people from the north coming in, they bring technology and agriculture, and they bring all these different things to these other civilizations. And they start worshipping them as gods and proclaiming them to be gods, giving them like this th th th th th th th th th th the the their th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to these other civilizations. And they start worshipping them as gods and proclaiming them to be gods, giving them like this larger than life type of thing. But in reality, they're just people that have come from the north. They've been in this system for so long that they've stayed a much bigger people, stockier people. And so when they come down to the other lands and they're smaller,

Starting point is 01:18:46 they see them as being giant or whatnot. Now maybe they could have been eight feet tall to 10 feet tall or 12 feet, I don't really know. But they would see them as being bigger. And because they had this technology, they looked at them like gods. Not necessarily that they were gods, but they also came down from heaven. They also were part of the ruling class and in the more ancient times.

Starting point is 01:19:13 And so they had this kind of recollection of this society that existed at that time. So when they saw them coming back down, they started to venerate them as something else... their.. their... their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, but their, their, but their, but their, but their, but they they they were they were they were they were they were they were their, their, they were they were they were their, they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, th. tho, tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thoananananananananan. thoananan. thoananan. thoanananan. thoananananan. they were they were they were they were th existed at that time. So when they saw them coming back down, they started to venerate them as something else. Yeah, but they were called the family of good or the family of God. So those Nephalins or those 10 brothers coming down, they could be like the sons of God. Yeah, because this word God in the saga comes from just the word good, like your gut,

Starting point is 01:19:46 good inside versus what it flipped to, which was God outside, and that's the hallmark of this parasite to externalize everything away from us. Yeah, yeah. In Swedish, to be good, to be good or God good. They are good hits the family of good because the titles are like, you know, good inna and good. So they're like good and good. So they're like good or good in a depends if you are a female or male also. They they were the family of God in this story, because they were the ones they were giving. It almost sounds like Game of Thrones to White Walker's in some weird kind of way.

Starting point is 01:20:37 I've been thinking about that reference too because if you really think about it in a raw term, you can see like the peasants or those dead entities, they are like rising up and coming again, and they are so fucking different from the others. I don't know, but it's still a film, but the concept in itself. I've been watching every episode again because of the box saga and just the idea again of the free folk beyond the wall it's so obvious and yeah red-headed giants and shit but yeah so this story continues by through this period and I don't know even talking yeah

Starting point is 01:21:18 Tolkien absolutely the Lord of the Ringlands he was obsessed with Finnish lore they have a collection of what you can say folk tales tales their the the Ringlands? He was obsessed with Finnish lore. They have a collection of what you can say, folk tales called the Calavala in Finland and he was fucking obsessed over it. But they have the basic figures like for example Gandalf is based on Weeneminen, a title like this one. So Lord of the Rings is based on Vainemaina, a title, like this one. So Lord of the Rings is based off of... Box Saga. Now Finnish mythology. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:21:53 Which is like, oh, in that, in the arena, in the area. Yeah, exactly. But the Vauxaga in itself is a little bit more, you know, it's gets into the core. It's a more hardcore version, but the Kalavala is a collection of folk lore. Like, it's, you know, it's more like it has become Christianized over time, and, you know, people don't talk about things, so the stories kind of change. But more in a metal, so, you know, the stories kind of change but more in our metal so you know the more traditional metallic mythological perspective so to speak for

Starting point is 01:22:31 example the Hindu or yeah this is back to the mythol like how we're mythologizing norse my tolu history like fairy tales that's why we have I mean I'm not against the idea of like visitors from elsewhere if it happens but our ancient alien ideas to me are all a human history relegated to fairy tales. Well, I can't much be I believe whatever the Bible represents and I again, I have zero problems of people who read it and it makes them better people and believing at that. I'm not necessarily into organized religion. I'm more of a spiritual human being. But when you hear about things that happen in the Bible,

Starting point is 01:23:18 and they're like, it seems like superhero shit, right? And you're like, well, dude, that's just a fable and all that stuff. I go, well, what if the people back then, where the original story comes from, were way more powerful than we understand today? Of course. Right? There are stories about like techniques, how they can move stones with sound and different other methods, you know, so they are stories about understandings that, you know, it's lost. So, the moving stone things is really interesting, I think, because they have a little story about how they move those huge megalit from this store also. So, so you're saying that it was really interesting, I think because they have a little story about how they move those huge megaliths from this

Starting point is 01:24:06 store also. So you're saying that it was more common back then for people to have like kind of superpowers like Jesus would have been one in them like a thin like a naw or no. I think it's more like understandings of you know basic nature principles or you know the laws of nature Yeah, putting to putting like an explanation like an explanation in nature that we can figure out To magic I don't think it necessarily takes away the magic of it. You know, it's still no especially if you could do all these things with it. It's fucking magic. Yeah, I do believe that

Starting point is 01:24:43 especially if you don't have the knowledge. Right. Again, I think that we were very powerful and the Tatarians and whatever group you want say, whether it's the, you know, the Bach saga, the Bach family, whoever you're discussing, they had a lot, they had powers and in my humble opinion, the Predator class has gone out and tried to just erase any understanding of any of that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeee is with theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is with thi thi thi thi thi class has gone out and tried to just erase any understanding of any of that stuff. And they were doing things that today would seem like Marvel comic shit back in the day. That's just, I'm open-minded to that. Probably.

Starting point is 01:25:22 I mean, a human has got so fucking lazy and you know we are lack of knowledge you know that that's really what the church did. They killed off all the sages and and you know the mystics and had a priest there instead fucking down. You know they wanted to get everyone fucking drunk you know you can see when the church rolled into Sweden, the priests were also like the ones running the clubs, you know, the drinking places. Also, so they want to numb down the population, get rid of the hemp culture and, you know, all those kind of more natural way of thinking, you know, the burning of witches and all of this is just women who knew how to handle nature and to draw power from it.

Starting point is 01:26:11 For example, the tea drinking that they are giving us is an amazing product. I drink a lot of tea and gather it by myself also in the old way. So it's, it's, you know, a lot of things that are very empowering for their mind from this story. And once again, we get into that like fear area of, okay, this is sounding like becoming your own God, and that's evil, that's satanic, that's Luciferian, and all that whole thread. It's like, well, yeah, but we all agree that the Catholics like started all this shit a long time ago and are still doing stuff in the Vatican why would we trust their interpretation of

Starting point is 01:26:53 these things. I agree that and you know Christianity what is one thing versus and maybe absolutely yeah yeah Christians don't like that yeah I mean it has been going through some kind of a reformation, I would say, because the real thing with the Catholic world is they wanted monopoly over a lot of things. For example, reading and writing was totally forbidden outside of the priest class. And that's what the, actually, Gustavard of the second from Sweden And that's what actually Gustavado of the second from Sweden the crushed that monopoly and put the Bible into the home instead of people so they can learn to read and also write. So there's a

Starting point is 01:27:37 a lot of things that has been changed. I said to imagine to live underneath a Catholic like in the 13,400 in Europe. Oh man, that would have been a fucking horrible. Yeah. If you ask me. And I, and every couple hundred years, they make a run at it again. And I think that is what, that is happening right now. Of course. In our world, that the, this super that is happening right now in our world that this

Starting point is 01:28:06 super predator class is making a run at taking over everything and how much of it is a siop how much of it is real that is debatable but I do think that the same people that wiped out the you know that out the, you know, that, that assassinated Julius Caesar, the same people that assassinated JFK, and it's the same predator class over generations and generations of generations that have been doing this. And I believe that is this world that we live in. That this group, whatever you want to call them, whatever name you want to give, the darkness that is in this realm that we live in, that is their job.

Starting point is 01:29:01 They're trapped here and they want to rage, wage war against us. Let's see. That's interesting. You get into, I know that this guy, you know, you know, guys, this guy, Michael Sorion, he's also into that a lot about that. That it could have been some kind of influx. You know, this is, if you look at the Bach metology, this is like, you know, alien stuff is really like, that it doesn't even go in there or so, but if you want to look at it, you know, you can't really just shut it out.

Starting point is 01:29:45 I mean, that's a subject that I really have stayed off as good as much as I can, but this kind of weird, this seems to be a weird influx that is very fucking anti-human on this planet. And it's hard to understand or describe it otherwise it then it could have been some kind of weird influx. I think it's possible but I don't know. You know I still think it can be explained by generational human trauma over wars and natural disasters just horrible fucking people. Yeah, and it's also that it's the same people always over and over and over again. It's never, you know, it's like I really get into like how much war would really happen if there wasn't this predator class. How much violence and hatred would actually happen if it wasn't like

Starting point is 01:30:47 for the CIA and the FBI to come in, create agitators who are, you know, controlled opposition, agent provocateurs, who cause this kind of chaos. You know, how many, you know, you take a look the feminist movement and Gloria, What's her name the famous feminist Gloria Steinem? Gloria Steinem is the CIA plan? Like, what do you understand that? You're like, what? You're like, you're like, yeah, she wanted genocide. Yeah, so you take a look at like, there's always these group of people who are well-funded pushed by the, the system to push people into certain kind of thiiiii........ their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. the. the. th. th. toean, toe. toe. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the pushed by the system to push people into certain kind of ways and here's the whole thing I don't know what the answer is okay my life is like this show is a giant jigsaw puzzle every episode is what is the piece that I'm

Starting point is 01:31:40 going to take from this that fits in to this jigsaw puzzle and this fits in to the jigsaw puzzle. Now it is... I call it the red thread. The red thread? I like that. I call it the red thread. It's interesting. Yeah, it's the story of the Royals and those fucking you know battles underground battles. You can see it was more obvious, like in the days where you have horses and, you know, archers and fucking guns and on the battlefield. But now it's getting so fucking technological, so it's hard to follow. But if you look at like 15, 16, 1700s history, 1800s history also, it's getting interesting. But I think they really took over

Starting point is 01:32:25 the power of the Western world in the 1800s in the beginning of the 1800s with Napoleon. I actually believe that this predator class, like as we know it, was like a big move where it's like they go after the, uh, this group of Royals happened in like the 15th or the 16th hundreds and they've they've had like a nice run of 400 and something years of doing stuff behind the our are bad. Now I'm not saying that the Vatican and Rome and all that stuff hasn't been doing it for much longer, but this like Rothschild Rockefeller like predator movement that's this, this phase of it, that's been the run. But I, in my humble opinion, you know, the difference between then and now is like the internet has

Starting point is 01:33:26 allowed me to talk to somebody who is in Scandinavia and we could have a discussion about what you know and what I know and we could try to piece pieces together and we have a permanent record of what's going on and I believe you know, we try to try to piece pieces together and we have a permanent record of what's going on. And I believe, you know, we saw in Canada where they knocked down their internet for a short time, but can that stay down forever? Not only, don't you think when they shut it down, they're deleting some shit? It's definitely, they are deleting stuff as we go, but there is a permanent record.

Starting point is 01:34:04 I believe our realm is where there is a permanent record. I believe our realm is where there is a dark entities versus light and that is that is the battle for this place. That's just my humble opinion and this fits into it. There you know that there are yeah you have yeah I was just gonna say when we talk about history and the Jigsaw you're talking about, I mean, just look at what happened, what's happening today and how much is going on. To keep track, you know, like one year of happening, I mean, all around the globe, really hard to do. Then when we look back like 500 years ago, 400 years ago, 300 years ago and so. Imagine just how much has been happening each year. I mean it's fucking hard to comprehend, but I mean the entire, you know,

Starting point is 01:34:53 to look at it, trying to get some kind of overview gets really hard and you have to put a lot of work into it. That's why I just try to focus on like my area and the things that are connected to the Swedish history because they had a role in world history and then I can go into detail and be very knowledge about a couple of hundred years. So I think that's just a tip for people who are really interested in history. Try to just have some place to start from because it's going to parallel to the rest of the world when you look I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the s the s the s the s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s. the s. I the s. I the swea. I the swea. I their swea. I their swea. I their swee. I'm theirishishishishishishishishishishish. I'm their s. I their s. I's their s. I their their their their their their their their their their their their history. their history. their history. their history. their history. I is is their history. I their their their their their their their their thiiiii. I thea. I'm thea. I'm thea. I'm thea. thea. their thea. their their their to parallel to the rest of the world when you look at it. I mean it's so huge subject. It is. Trying to track it. And how crazy is I am 49 years old? I've had this show since 2017 I believe.

Starting point is 01:35:45 No, no, no, 2016. It is almost six years old. And I have now just for the first time heard of the box saga. And how many times that I could go to somebody go, bro, what's your opinion on box saga? And they're like, what? Yeah, it's gonna be like that. It's really annoying. We're doing the light version here it's gonna be like that. It's really annoying.

Starting point is 01:36:05 We are doing the night version here, I can tell you. Yeah, well that's why we're so thankful to for you guys to have us on because we just want more eyes on this. The more people looking into this, the better. You know, to add this piece to the jigsaw puzzle. And you just start getting over and over again, you know, just their game plan, how they do, what they do, how they kill off anybody that just gets too big to change the way what they're trying to do.

Starting point is 01:36:39 And dude, I mean, really, you know, Susan Bradford has been saying this multiple appearances on my show that there has been this parasite class war against royals and how this, the Royals in England have almost been used to buffoon royals to make royals look stupid. Oh, they all just have sex with their cousins and they're just, they got bucked teeth and they're ugly and they, if you cut them with a piece of paper they bleed, they're th, th, th, th, they're th, they're, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th..e, th.e, the, the, the, the, the, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, their, their, the, the Oh, they all just have sex with their cousins and they're just, they got bucked teeth and they're ugly and they, if you cut them with a piece of paper, they bleed out like all this stuff to make them look so dumb and stupid when there could be in reality that they, you know, star seeds were sent down to help humanity go to a certain direction. And there's been this concentrated effort to annihilate them. The disconnect us more with God. It's 100% possible.

Starting point is 01:37:33 I can't say it's not. Because based on this story, it sounds super duper interesting to me, man. Yeah, this is filled in a lot of gaps for me when it comes to how we misappropriate allegory versus literal history. Not entirely. I'm still learning. Dan and I have another show called the Deep Chill on Patreon where we go into different parts of history and we're just looking at the symbolism and linking it. What does the symbolism mean to this culture? Oh, how about that? It harkens right back to the saga.

Starting point is 01:38:05 Like we're looking at different areas to try to kind of triangulate, you know? So, so let's, I just want to finish up this, or, or Bach, is that his name? Eor, like, Winnie the poo? So where was the, eom, Eum, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, ea, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, the, I, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, is, is, is, is, is, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, is most of his life in hiding? No, he was actually spending six months each year in India. And then he would come back and then at some point he decided to tell the story. Is that what, is that his mother and sister died?

Starting point is 01:38:42 He broke the story in India because he wanted to get to the root of the problem with the religions because in this story it started in India. Oh my god, it's so crazy dude. So he goes there and he tells the story. So, but did you know this story before he told it? No, but I wasn't even born, so. Yeah, the thing is, is that lemon kind in this word, this term, this title, same with Vynamon, these exist in folklore. So some would say, oh, he's just appropriating his story on to, you know, folklore that already exists.

Starting point is 01:39:26 But I mean, we can disprove that by looking into it further. But the point is that it's kind of provable that way, in a way, in a way, some of it anyway, by cross-referencing to stuff that's already there in the culture. Yeah, in Sweden, you know, every place, every name of each locations like cities and streets and all of this, a lot of it come from hidden remnants. And the etymology is connected to the sound system. So when I found out about the box saga, it's sort of clicked instantly because it, I've been very

Starting point is 01:40:06 interested in language before that I come from the music and you know the sound world with frequency and sound that's my I'm a musician you know I like sounds so I'm a musician you know I like sounds so I mean that's that's where I began this so but then I got it for free by having the the author language as they say they call it root but it's basically Swedish and everything to really understand you need to have Swedish as a mother tongue to sort of draw from the sound. But an English speaking person can also understand because it's based on root also.

Starting point is 01:40:53 But it's a combination of root and one language they say the two different language groups that we have on the planet. How common is this group, I mean this book in Sweden? What? Like how common is this book that do people know about it? Can you go get it at the library? No, no, no, no. This is a down. Now, you know, this is a little bit too far for fetch or I mean. It's fucking strange man. You won't find it in the shelf. So, so you can get it on Amazon obviously. Yeah, I just bought it, but, and I feel bad buying books on Amazon.

Starting point is 01:41:31 I feel like really bad about it. I feel like I'm. But, so the, so most people don't know about this story. That's even hidden from them. Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, your book was on national television in Finland. One hour show. You can watch it on YouTube with subtitle is fucking interesting. And he tells the story. Yeah. On national television. How was it received? I don't remember that part of it.

Starting point is 01:42:06 He got a massive attack. The Finnish people didn't really like. I think he was a little bit before his time. Today it would have been different, but it wouldn't have been happening today anyway. But it's a slip. And it's very interesting because he is quite known in Finland. But this is the funny part because E. I. R. was working on, there's a ruin outside of Helsinki called Svioreborg, which was a fortification,

Starting point is 01:42:39 the French and the Englishman blew it to fucking oblivion, but he was a guide out there. And he attracted a lot of free masons and one of his biggest customers were the king of Sweden, like the one that was sitting now. And he gave Eor some kind of privilege to have audience with the king at any time he wanted so that's what I know When he was palanuting tooka tie and puttie son into I don't think they're unavailable dog they're unavailable this is the guy there right that's he or

Starting point is 01:43:19 how long we did he there tellain heek at this is a little plush form you don't know there there's a lot of a reason the the there there there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a there is a the there there is a there you there there you there there there there you there is a there you there you there you there you there you there is a there th is a there there there there there what there's a lot of resource from. There's a lot of resources on YouTube though from from from us and from other people. There's a number of documentaries from a man named Jim Chesner. Welcome to Hell, welcome to Rajas. Welcome to the Rajas. He's basically taking you on and toward through. You know, there's a number of documentaries. See if you can, it's called, welcome to the Atlantis. He's basically taking you on a tour through. The main focus. Yeah, see if you can, it's called, Welcome to Hell and Welcome to Rajastham.

Starting point is 01:43:54 Yeah, very good documentaries, I recommend watching them when you have time. Yeah, because it's like tours through all these places that the story talks about. I mean, he goes right to the place that, um, King, but they had a, this hell was, where the Catholics destroyed it. There's like a Catholic monument or something like that. Yeah, we didn't even get into the third Ragnarok. Yeah, we didn't even get into that the fuck get into what we have a third Ragnarok also a third what Third Ragnarok, oh really destruction. Yeah, these guys, dude, they just want to wipe out all of our history so we never know

Starting point is 01:44:36 The third Ragnarok is actually the Catholics. They are the Ragnaruk. Yeah. Because Rok is smoke. Ragnarok means like, something is getting burned and torched and destroy. It has to do with destruction. Yeah. Torture. The story says that in 10.50. This is when the Catholics sent a papal army to Helsinki,

Starting point is 01:45:11 what was left of the Acer people either fled or were burned alive, destroyed, killed, but the box had known about what was about to happen. They knew their time was running out, and this is when they decided to seal off Lemankind and Temple, this place that we have so many volunteers now digging out. 984, they sealed it, I think. Yeah. A thousand years before he broke the story. Yeah, he was supposed to open the temple at the same time that he broke the story but it didn't happen that way. Right. So they knew he was going to do it? Yeah. Why did he have the confiscated the land too through you know silly things that happened the land was confiscated from him wasn't it? But I wonder about those crystal balls? I what the fuck are they I want to see them because they are I mean those

Starting point is 01:46:09 those crystal three crystal balls that are like unique and the future one there I don't know what kind of device it is but it would be interesting to dig them up. For sure man this has been an incredible I just can't wait to get them up. For sure, man, this has been an incredible, I just can't wait to get that book and read it. Sounds super interesting, man. I'm dying deep well. It's a deep well. Another piece in the jigsaw puzzle, everybody.

Starting point is 01:46:37 Another book. Another book. I'm going to read. I am reading right now, Johnny, shut up. That should be your next podcast, I like a book club. Like you read the book together. One episode every two years.

Starting point is 01:46:54 Oh, man, yeah, again, you want to start. Cool man, yeah again Sam, thanks for having us on. This was awesome. Appreciate it. And I'm Andy Rouse from the DeepShare podcast. Come check me out at the Deep Share on all the social media platforms and I'm on YouTube and Odyssey, Rockfin, all that kind of stuff. Thanks. Dan, would you like to share? Yeah, what's up? Rising from the Ashes. I'm on all the podcast apps.

Starting point is 01:47:34 You can find me there along with Homi Romy. We do five shows a month, followed by four shows, technically, followed by a group show. We do theme months every month. So go check out Rising from the Ashes. We get into history, spirituality, religion, all that stuff. Hextrum, would you like to share what, do you have a podcast? Do you have a death metal band? Do you have anything? Well, I've been having some metal bands. I'm currently making a solar project, but it's taking fucking ages? But I want it some metal bands. I'm currently making a solo project, but it's taking fucking ages, but I wanted to be perfect. But I have a YouTube channel actually that I put out like very slowly, but if you're interested

Starting point is 01:48:15 in those more Swedish style, the Swedish side of world history, and so you can check my YouTube. I also talk a little bit about like a little bit about box saga but I try to focus more on the the actual actual happening based on like the box saga. So I have this red thread and I try to expose all the fucking nefarious forces that have been attacking us up here so that's my goal. All right. You can just type you like Jockey Higstrom, like my name. And you will probably find this. I'll put up your YouTube link in the description.

Starting point is 01:48:54 And if you guys, once we hang up, I'll tell you my email and you could send me any links. Okay. want me to include okay. Hell yeah we'll send you those documentary links too because those are valuable for anyone that's interested in learning more of these two along with the book. Hell yeah man hell yeah hey guys like I said I'm going to be in San Francisco grab your tickets now we got a turn and burn let's go let's rock let's get weird in Sam Fram bro all all that all thoo all thoo, thi tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. to to to to to to to to too. to toe. I tolde. to te. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. enjoyed this show. I fucking loved it. It was a very interesting topic. It's always a great show when Johnny talks very little. Thank you guys for tuning in. Cutting that out. Okay from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 01:49:50 That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Tim foil hack.

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