Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #598: Cryptoterrestrials and Future Humans with Ryan Musgrave-Evans

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Ryan Musgrave Evans on. And what Johnny calls, and I quote, might have been my favorite episode ever, right? Right, Johnny. I'll say that. Yeah, Johnny loves that. I love it. No, no, not.

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Starting point is 00:11:50 Very excited to have this next gentleman on. This show, we go far and wide to find the best guest for you. We don't just go local. We go global. And that's what I love that we're at the technology now where we could talk to somebody on the other end of this flat plane or this realm or this rock that's hurling through space, whatever you want to believe, okay, to get the best, the best. I'm excited to have this next guest on.

Starting point is 00:12:17 He's an author, he's a researcher, and he is an experiencer. Please welcome Ryan Musgrave Evans. How are you brother? I'm well man. Thanks for having me guys. It's an honor to be here. Well we're excited to have you on. You look like your setting looks very professional. A lot of research looks like you have right. That's the guy who's done research this setting. Ryan for those who may not be familiar with you can tell us a little bit about yourself and where our guests can, our listeners can find you and anything you might want to plug? Yeah, cool, thanks. Yeah, my name's Ryan Musgrave Evans. I'm a 43 year old Australian from Victoria. I've experienced a lot of

Starting point is 00:13:03 what you might call high strangeness all of my life. Sporadically when I was a kid, kind of like shadow people kind of stuff, poltergized activity, seeing being paralysis, not being able to wake up other family members and seeing lights in the sky and being taking away and things like that. Those kinds of things were very, very interesting to say the least, but in the last 10 years it's amped up dramatically and I've been having like full-on experiences taken, medical procedures, meetings. Now this has taken on more of an extraterrestrial bent, whereas when I was a kid I kind of interpreted as being more like fairy or elf-related or tree spirits.

Starting point is 00:13:48 But once I started reading about Jacques Bollet that tied those things together, and Mactoney's another great author, who wrote the Crypto-terrestraceals, a meditation on indigenous human, us. I came to understand that there's a common substratum running under these kinds of non-human entities from ancient times and folklore up till what you might call UFO law, abduction law today. And in my case as well, that is very appropriate to consider my early experiences that were more kind of like elves or fairies that may be impassioned about the Celtic Fairy faith, learning Gaelic,

Starting point is 00:14:24 being really interested in that kind of stuff. and more thens thens thens thi and thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiolioliolioli, thi, thi, thiolioli, thiolioling thioli, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thea. thea' thea'uui. thaui. thaui. thauioli. thauioli. thauioli, thaic Fairy faith, learning Gaelic, being really interested in that kind of stuff, and more recent experiences that are much more typically kind of UFO-like and related. So that had all inspired me to become interested in these things, you know, like, and be gripped by the passion and to start investigating and seeking the particular race of beings that I know and recognize in cases from ancient times and fairy folklore, non-human folklore and superstitions all the way up till today and building a cryptotereal profile. I've stolen MacTone's word, cryptotereal, which means hidden earthlings, because I consider these beings to be indigenous to this planet

Starting point is 00:15:05 rather than extraterrestrial. And this is why they have such an obsession and fascination with our genetic material, because they are related to us. And so I wrote a book, and that's on Amazon, children of Orion finding the cryptotereals, and I'm writing another one, and that's coming out early next year. Phil Mantle, the English famous English euthologist has his own little press company going on and he's he said he's going to publish the second one as well so I'm wrapped. Bang congratulations on all that. Do you have a website or anything?

Starting point is 00:15:43 I've got a YouTube channel which is simply my name, Ryan Musgrave Evans. Otherwise, I don't really have a footprint online too much. Yeah, I'm not on social media or whatnot. So yeah, my YouTube is the best place to find me. So, so you are, it's such an interesting thing. I'm so into crypto's, you know, all the things. You know, interesting thing. I'm so into Cryptos, you know, all that stuff. Crypto zoology, all that stuff.

Starting point is 00:16:13 I love the term Crypto-terrestrial. I love that. I feel like you have to believe in it to be able to see it. If you don't want believe in it, you're never going to see it. You're never, you're never, your mind is never going to let you to see all this. You you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you to see all, you th, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you, you're, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thii, thii, thii, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the to believe in it to be able to see it. If you don't want believe in it, you're never going to see it. You're never, your mind is never going to let you see all this stuff. You know, we talk about us a lot on the show. Like for me, man, what is this place we live on? I don't know. Is it flat? Is it round? Is it hollow? Is it a realm? I don't know. I flung first grade I'm probably never gonna solve that mystery. Okay, I'm just gonna go with it and what whoever I'm talked to that day Whatever they believe we're just gonna work from that right? But I do believe this place is very special and it's like it's like the royal rumble from professional wrestling like Everybody's like everybody's coming to bang dog it's like they're coming at like the Graves the the Big Foots the the aunt people the

Starting point is 00:17:11 dog man the the fairies everyone's coming dude yeah yeah super slam Russell man and it's just all these amazing things that are happening out there and what what I believe has happened is that they have moved us into these free-range reservations that we call big cities, concrete jungles and that has kind of like causes to lose connection to these special things that don't show up as much. I may be wrong. I don't know if we see Bigfoot in Compton, right? Is there ever been a Bigfoot in Compton? I don't know. Never heard of it, but we'll see Bigfoot's in Oregon and all these national parks because that's nature.

Starting point is 00:17:59 What are your thoughts on that whole thing like why some people see it why some people don't? I think that lots of people are having experiences all the time that they're not allowed to remember because part of an aspect of this kind of interaction with what I might call cryptotereals but other people might call ETs whatever is that they have advanced technologies that allow them to manipulate your mind, mesmerize you, hypnotize you, and also suppress memories. So in my opinion, many, many people

Starting point is 00:18:36 across the face of the earth interacting with the same race of beings that I am, and also there's others, of course, but are not allowed to remember it. So if you are remembering bizarre experiences, you know, these kinds of things manifest a lot, the particular race that I interact with, it manifests a lot as though your house is haunted. If you see dark shapes moving around your house, if you hear disembodied voices in the night, if you hear footsteps on your staircase or on the roof, laughter, music in your house, if you hear disembodied voices in the night, if you hear footsteps on your staircase or on the roof,

Starting point is 00:19:07 laughter, music in your house, loud crashing sounds and things like that. Most of the time people will interpret that as being ghostly, like residue of deceased humans, their spirits or something. But when I hear someone say that, I think, ah, okay, you're more likely than not a cryptoterrestrial experience that you're only remembering sort of residual effects. And there's a plethora of reasons why they might have honed in on you and be focusing on you. Some of it is that you may be in their breeding programs, which is supposed to be consensual, but if they suppress your memory of having consented, you'll be freaked out anyway and you'll just think your house is haunted. So shadow people, them in their

Starting point is 00:19:51 cloaking suits, dark suits they wear, eyes glow red at night, they have helmets that have like telepath tech technology because they're no more naturally psychic or telepathic than we are this particular race, but they rely on sophisticated tech to drive into your mind and instill fear in your mind or feelings of love or linguistic communications, abstracts, ideas, send images into your mind and all that kind of thing. And people I think are having interaction with these kinds of beings all the time across the face of the earth. These beings that are living under our oceans with our mountains, particularly in national and state parks and wilderness areas. Not deep like a hollow earth, earth type

Starting point is 00:20:38 scenario, but within the crust of the earth, fairly superficial structures and habitations. And they move around depending on, they seek the warmth. the air, fairly superficial structures and habitations. And they move around, depending on, they seek the warmth, they're always looking for summer, you know, like a good surfer or whatever. And they leave some areas dormant, but if it's warm in your country at the moment, which it is for you, it's course in the moment, they're going to be present in large numbers in your national and state parks. And people have interactions with the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, thui. thui. thoes, thoes, thoome. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, th. Wea, thuua, thua, thua, thuu and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the. And, thea. And, tea. And, tea. And, tea. And, tea. And, tea. And, tea. And, thea. And, the large numbers in your national and state parks. And people have interactions with them, I think, a lot, but very few people remember or are allowed to remember.

Starting point is 00:21:11 And if you are remembering more than just shadow people and poltergist, but if you actually, if they allow you to remember like being taken on board craft or interactions with them, they're doing it deliberately. They don't usually make mistakes and they'll have their own reasons for allowing you to have this experience. But yeah, I think that people are experiencing this particular race that calls themselves the Magdana,

Starting point is 00:21:37 they said they called to me, which is a variation that's the same word as Juanjena, like the Australian, the Kimberley of the beings, being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being being the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings the beings, the beings, the beings, the the the the the that that that their, the same word as Juanjana, like the Australian, Indigenous Australian Petroglyx in the Kimberley of the beans painted thousands of years old, painted onto the rock and ochre and one. And then also in Zulu culture they're called, I'm very certain it's the same race as well called the Montedagne, but these are all versions of the same word Magina, which is what they call themselves the people of Manor. But yeah, so I'm rambling a bit now, but in my opinion, people are having this kind of stuff happen all the time. But I don't know if you guys are Dr. Who fans at all, but there's a race on Dr. Who that's called the and it's just um... New Doctor Who or old

Starting point is 00:22:26 Dr. Who? New Dr. Who? But there's this race people like some of your audience might, if they're Dr. Who fans, it's a way of sort of encapsulating this idea and Dr. Who there's these tall weird creatures as sort of one little one lot of characters, one kind of race of aliens and Dr. Doob. But when you see them, you can experience them. When you turn away, you forget that you even saw them even a few seconds before. And when you see them again, all of a sudden you're freaked out again and they can just, in that story, they can mess with your mind. In a similar kind of way, real the trust rules and Eterns can do this to people. So you might th. this th. this th. th. th. this th. th. th. thrush thrush thrush thrush thrush thrush a thrush a thrush. thrush a thrush, thrush, thrush, thrush, thrush, thrush. I. I. I'm, thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. The. Theat. I. I. I thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thrush. And, thrush. And, thrush. And, thrush. And, thrush. And, thrush. And, their. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, ttau. And, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. And, thr-a. So you might have gone out, you know, wheel your, wheel the trash out to the street or something like that early in the morning, had some kind of interaction. By the time you get

Starting point is 00:23:10 back inside you won't remember it. Or you might remember aspects, like residual aspects. So they might have even slipped in a bit of a screen memory so that you think you were talking to an owl or a fox or mess with your memories like like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, to an owl or a fox or mess with your memories like that as well. They can do that kind of thing too. But yeah, people, having this happen all the time, but not many people are being allowed to remember major aspects of it. And their reasons for allowing certain people to remember is best known to them. I think sometimes they have particular, you know, they have prophetic technologies as well, I call them, which is like the capacity to see potential futures and pilot reality in the sense of piloting it, like piloting a research project or piloting a new TV series. Like Hang the Conquer.

Starting point is 00:23:57 They can test in a sort of an abstract way if they do this, then this, then this and work it out like a chess game and already have established in their own world what kind of behavior they have to map out to have certain results, effects, better fruit of that, 10 years from now, 100, even 1,000 years from now. And so sometimes when they're interacting with people and they're choosing to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow to allow them to allow to allow them to allow their to allow to allow their to allow their to allow their to to their their their, like, their., like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their their their their., their.a, their.a, their.a, their.a, their.a, their.a, their.a, their.a, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, their.a, their.a, their.a, the the the thousand years from now. And so sometimes when they're interacting with people and were choosing to allow them to remember and not other people, it might not be obvious as to why they've chosen some person as

Starting point is 00:24:33 opposed to someone else that you think would be more appropriate in some way. Because they're not necessarily thinking about what's happening now, they're thinking about the long-term effects. But yeah. Hey guys, listen, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's to to they're not. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to allow to allow to allow. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. It's their. It's th. It's th. It's th. their the. the. their the. their the. the. the. the. to to the. to to to to to their to the happening now, they're thinking about the long game, long-term effects. But, yeah. Hey guys, listen, it's getting crazy out there. From cringing at the pump to get an eye-popping check at your favorite restaurant, inflation is hitting all of us where it hurts. And it really hurts. That's why you guys should check out upside. Upside is an incredible app for anyone who buys gas, groceries, or dines out.

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Starting point is 00:26:29 but you said that, do you think there's more than one cryptic group? Do you think there's many different cryptic groups and different terrestrials or cryptids just in general? There's four that I know of, and there may be more, but I personally doubt it, but there certainly could be more, but there's four particular ones. And so there's the Magina. There's another one called the Sepetiana, which is a dark,

Starting point is 00:27:06 which are the beans from the Virginia incident in Brazil in the 1990s. So there's a documentary that's going to be coming out soon about that particular crash. But small dark brown beings with oily skin, claws, three ridges along the tops of their head. They only get to about four foot tall. That's one group. Then there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the there's the the there's their head, they only get to about four foot tall. That's one group, then there's another one that is a grey kind of colour, which is more like a stereotypical pulp culture grey. And then there's another one that is paler in skin, larger, cranium, looks more like, what's that, DreamWorks, mega-mind? You know the character mega mind. Yeah, yeah, well it looks a bit more like that and you can still see the whites of their eyes and they have skin that almost looks like a snake or a lizard's belly and less less dramatic claws the other ones, but the Mudgeena is the one I'm particularly

Starting point is 00:27:59 interested in and people normally call them tall whites or sometimes they call them Nordics but they don't just look like Scandinavn't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their. their. th. their white the. I. I. I'm th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. their ones. their ones ones ones ones ones ones ones. their ones. their ones. their ones. the white. the white. the white. the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the white the white. I the white. I'm the white. I'm they. I'm thi. I'm thi. It's thi. But. But. But. But. But thiiiiiiiiiiauuiauiaugn't. But. But. But. But. But thi whites, or sometimes they call them Nordics. But they don't just look like Scandinavian supermodels, they don't just look like theyves. They're the ones that look most like us, but they are still quite different. They have long faces, heavy chins, less structure to their nose, much larger eyes than us that are usually blue, but as they get older they can turn vialis and then pink. They can get incredibly tall, so they can get to heights of like eight, nine, even ten foot tall at advanced ages. And they take a very, very long time to grow so that they can be, if they're five

Starting point is 00:28:38 years, so they can be like still only two foot tall and they gradually grow up. It takes them a hundred years to get to about six foot and they keep on going, keep on going and they can live through prolonged ages. This is the race that Charles James Hall called Torweights. He coined that term in the early 2000s. He wrote the books, the millennial hospitality series of memoirs have been posted to Nellus air Force Base as a weather observer in the 60s and he had prolonged and regular interaction with a race that he said were tall, chalk white, skin, white to blonde hair, sparse hair, huge blue eyes with underground habitations there in the

Starting point is 00:29:21 mountains in Indian Springs. And it would also chirp and whistle and bark, which is an important element of this group as well, because they have what I call camocants. Sounds like a cat call. Like did you? Yeah, yeah. Mamme, mama. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:30:25 as well. These tight suits, they can cloak in them, where you can get like a heat shimmer kind of look, kind of like the predator movies, or sometimes you wouldn't even know that were there at all. They can be completely invisible. They have like a long nosepiece that hangs down that resonates and amplifies sound so that they call out and hoot and roar and ballow.... the the the the the resonates and amplifies sound so that they call out and hoot and roar and ballow and howl to communicate over massive distances in like

Starting point is 00:30:52 wild wilderness areas and state parks and whatnot. But they can amplify it with this nose piece that hangs down and sort of flares out. And then they have like a breathing apparatus. They can breathe out air but they have a lot of allergies they, that filters out pollen and dust and whatnot. They can levitate in these suits, in which case they shimmer, and like a bit of a black cloud comes up over the top of them. At night, their eyes glow red. So they have these round goggles, not only round, but sometimes elliptical. That's mothman, mothman, mothman, mothman, mothman, mothman, they they they they they their they have they have their their they have thoge, thoge, thoge, thoge, thoge, thoom, thoom, thoom, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And th. And th. And thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the the theeeeeat, theat, theeat, theeat, theat, theat, theat, theat, the, Mothman, right? Yeah, Mothman. So Mothman is them. Mothman is a tall white's military grade suits and they have a structured,

Starting point is 00:31:36 stratified, highly hierarchical military system as well. And they are incredibly dangerous if you get on the wrong side of them. But they have their personalities run the whole gamut of like Homo sapiens. You know, you can have people that are incredibly cruel on one end and then people that are incredibly compassionate on on the other and it comes down to the individual with them as to what kind of do, what kind of person they're going to be. But for the most part, they can they can can can th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi can can can can can can can their thi their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, and, their, their, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their person they're going to be. But for the most part, they can be incredibly flighty, they can be dangerous, and they do kill Homo sapiens sometimes, particularly in wilderness areas and particularly if you're armed, and they consider you to be an aggressive, and having aggressive and malicious intent. And I'm quite certain that some of the missing 411 cases that David Politis famously talks about, particularly cases pertaining to hunters, that's probably them some of the

Starting point is 00:32:30 time at least. You've said we've all met one? They just... Well I think lots of people have, yeah. And they very well may have. They decide if we remember it or not? Yeah. Then and usually make mistakes, so if you do remember it or not? Yeah. Then I usually make mistakes. So if you do remember it, they're a little louder. You say that about confusion and not remembering things, because I do remember, you know, I've not thought about this element of it. I've said a few times I've seen a UFO. And I do remember feeling disoriented, like confused about

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Starting point is 00:33:57 Not overly well. I mean, because they share the planet with us now. Their history is incredibly complicated. They're interdimensional, they're related to us, but they're actually from different dimensions. It depends on what you mean by time travel. You could even say that they're time travelers, but they're from a version of our future. They've come back seeking, they have genetic problems. They're impoverished from manipulating their own genomes, genomes too much, from doing too much genetic engineering to prolong their own lifespans and things like that.

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Starting point is 00:36:26 So they copulate with us, they're so closely related to us, they can even, this particular group anyway, they can even, you know, have intercourse with us, have progeny. But also, you know, even when they're not doing that, but incredibly interested in harvesting our DNA because we are, the way they were before they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they they they they they they they they they they they felt, they they they they th. they were, they're th. thi. they're thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, thi. to, to, to to to to to to to to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. thee. the. the. the. the way they were before they fell from grace in a sense but before they destroyed that and unraveled their own genetic structure so they require us to not go extinct basically can you can you explain what you mean by that I do because you're saying now that they're long-lived right is that they are it seems to be but if they have difficulty reproducing can you explain what you mean by that? Because you're saying now that they're long-lived, right? It's the same species?

Starting point is 00:37:07 But they have difficulty reproducing, is that what you mean? They're difficult or reproducing, and they're long-lived, which is something that they've deliberately tried to engineer. And if they're lucky, they will live to advance stages. But they're incredibly are lucky are lucky are lucky are lucky are lucky are lucky they're they're lucky they're lucky they're they're lucky they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're live to advanced stages, but they're incredibly susceptible to diseases, allergies, their bodies don't heal properly or quickly enough, particularly bacteria, or infections from bacteria, they're prone to that kind of stuff. So it's very, very easy for them without their technology, say, just in the natural environment wandering around the earth to develop an infection to die. So there's poorly, there's sickly, their technology say just in the natural environment wandering around the earth to develop an infection

Starting point is 00:37:46 to die. So there's poorly, they're sickly, their constitution is bad. Whereas we compared to them are incredibly healthy still, you know, and they augment their own genes with ours. They don't seem to be able to come up with a permanent solution to this. So they constantly reintegrate our healthy genes with bears. But yeah, but if they're lucky enough, they can live and and if they're careful enough, they can theoretically live to the ages of like seven, even 800 years. Oh wow. Without their technologies they'd be pretty stuffed. You know, they wouldn't be able to function to function to function to function to function to function to function to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their genegenegeneateate. gene, gene gene, gene gene gene genes genes genes genes genes their genes their genes their genes their genes genes genes genes genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes their genes, their genes, their genes, their genes Without their technologies they'd be pretty stuffed, you know, they wouldn't be able to function anymore without their advanced technologies, their suits and you know, a lot of their craft and things like that. Amazing technologies. And a physical... I'm sorry, yeah. No, sorry, in a physical confrontation though we could, like without their tech, we could take over from them, right? Yeah. They, yeah. They, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, like, like, th. thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, like, like, like, like, like, their, like, they're like, they're like, they're like, like, they're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're could, like, if without their tech, we could take over from them, right?

Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah, we're like gorillas to them or something. That's why I was starting to smash their bones and they'd be, and it takes them ages to heal. That's where we're headed though. They're broken them, they sound like reproduce. They sound like Japanese to me. They said they're vegan. They are vegan. They only are they only a plant products. They refuse to wear animal products as well. They only wear synthetic clothing and crops. I think we're vegan. I've been a vegan for 11 years. Does that wait? Wait, did you now did you do that because of the influence of this? That's how you live the long? I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I they they they they they they they they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I'm they're vegan. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're vegan. They they're vegan. They they. They they. They they. They they. They they. They are. I they. I they are. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I they're vegan. I'm vegan. I'm vegan. I'm vegan. I'm they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're vegan. I they're vegan. I'm. Does that wait? Wait, did you now did you do that because of the influence of this? That's how you live that long?

Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah, I think that was a big part of it. Yeah. Because they actually was saying to me, like one stage there I fell off the wagon and I ate chicken and they said to me, you are a monster. Do not do that again. Oh wow. And then another time I was, we were out of vegetarian sausages, you know, fake sausages. And we're at a party and I had a real one. And they had something to tell them something to say about that as well. The same not to eat meat. Damn, there was a somebody who was on my zero podcast who did like, Iowaska went deep and the entity was like you can't eat pizza

Starting point is 00:40:06 dude and he's like what pizza yeah just pizza big no he can't eat animal products oh right yeah I mean magic you know I mean you no go on you have you guys you've seen um well this is that show on Netflix the game changes if you watch the game changes you'll be a vegan you'll be a vegan you guys you guys you guys you guys you go you guys you guys the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pizza pizza the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th the th th the th go the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the is that show on Netflix some the game changes if you watch the game changes you'll be a vegan you watch that documentary yeah it's a no it is brutal what we do the animals of course of course I mean I think it's just it's brutal what I did the animals in my teens yeah yeah as a farmer Johnny if you knew what Johnny did he be your Hitler I'd tell you right now. Johnny could never be a vegan.

Starting point is 00:40:46 Johnny, yeah. Johnny's just gross. He's just gross. So, so you don't believe, you believe that all these different cryptids fall under these four categories. There could be, there could be big foot, but he would be one of your four categories? I think well you know I don't argue against the existence of big foot them a big foot as some you know societal group of ancient hominids left over might be out

Starting point is 00:41:17 there somewhere but I think a lot of what's counted as being big foot say Sasquatch is these group, the Mudgeoner. Especially if they're seen like out in the forest, they can get to extreme heights. When they're wearing their super soldier suits, they are super strong and have super speed and things like that, even though they are frail under them. They make the sounds they make. Like the Sierra Sierra Savathe Sierra Nevada Mountains. They're definitely Mudge Inher, Tall whites. I've heard them doing this. Other people as well, there's cases of them doing this, that the way they speak normally sounds

Starting point is 00:41:56 to us like a samurai, like really deep resonating Japanese. So there's been a few times where they've spoken th. th. the their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. T. T. T. T. T. T. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. They's, their. They're, their, their, their. They're, their, their, their, their, their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their sound. their. their.'s been a few times where they've spoken this around me or to me, but they also flick between that and these camouflage languages and code switch and sound like they're hooting, roaring, growling, barking and mimic wildlife, twittering. Now, there's a particular case called the Soria case from Spain from the 70s Where a guy was invited on board a UFO with his dog he was out hunting and a UFO landed It was invited on board the tall fair beans with huge blue eyes and long pointed faces and long chins We're more interested in his dog and investigating the dog than they were in the man himself apparently,

Starting point is 00:42:46 but according to the testimony. But the description that bloke gave, Julio Fernandez, his name was, the description that guy gave of their speeches, they're speaking together, interacting with each other and not him, is a perfect description of the Sierra sounds. So I don't know if you guys have listened to the Sierra sounds. I hear a bit of them on David Polite, he's missing four and one the hunted documentary when he actually goes and interviews Ron Moorhead. But yeah, so, so the sounds they make as well that people often think or attribute to Bigfoot

Starting point is 00:43:26 are tall whites or mudgener. And they have huge feet too. And they do go bare foot sometimes. Sometimes they actually do go bare foot. So some of the tracks people see that attribute to Big Foot could possibly be them as well. There's also cases like it's Skin Walker Walker Ranch where there's big foot could possibly be them as well. There's also cases like it's Skin Walker Ranch where there's big foot activity and different kinds of cryptids, you know, giant, other kinds of giant canids, creatures that kind of look like small dinosaurs and things like that, you know, and you know in the

Starting point is 00:43:59 famous case Skinwalker ranch there, the rancher actually used, you know, high-powered rifle to blow holes out of the back of a giant die wolf that was the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, their their their their th. their their, their, their, their, their, their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where their, where th. their, where th. their, where th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the rancher actually used, you know, high-powered rifle to blow holes out of the back of a giant die wolf that was there, that was attacking their lambs, or attacking their calves. And it had no pain response, and it just trot it off. And then when they followed it, the prince led nowhere. And there's other cases of ranch cases, farm cases, where there will be these large crypted animals that people thals thals thals thals thals thals thals thals thals thals thials thioles thioles thiol-a, thiol-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-oom-c-c-c-c-c-c-oes, thoombs, thol-c-c-c-c-c-c-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-n, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thoomomomomomereee. tha-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosed-nosedeaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseasease, thase, thase, farm cases, where there'll be these large crypted animals that people would normally think of as being maybe like extinct, ancient, like megafauna that are extinct now. And they see them and they're there and they're moving around. But they're almost, and even though they are tangible because they can attack animals and smash down fences and things like that these creatures, they can, you know be be th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the tho tho tho tho the the the the the the than than than than an than an than an than an than an than an thoan an tho tho tho tho the the than an than an than an they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're than an than an than an than. than. thanan. thanan. thanananananan. thanananananananananan. thanananan. thanananananananananan. thanananananananananananan. things like that these creatures, they can be be beamed up like Scotty. They just disappear. They, like in some sense they are intangible. Now I think sometimes Bigfoot can fall under this category where people see large, you know,

Starting point is 00:44:58 hitherto thought extinct primate beams, but they're, this, it's almost like they're a tool being used by cryptotereals to instill fear in people to expel them from certain places they don't want them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're not real, you know, somehow they're engineered, they're transient life forms, you know, there's something, even though they sort of behave like they're alive, they're not really. And the and they're, and they're, and th, and th, and th, and that, and that, and that, and that, and they're, and they're, and they're, and that, and that, and they're, and they're, and they're, and that, they're, that, that, that, that, they're, that, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're something, even though they sort of behave like they're alive, they're not really. And the wolf that had the pieces shut off the back, you know, like Column Callahar, who he wrote with George Nap, Humph of the Skinwalker, he said that apparently the flesh after it left the animal is still on the ground and it was rotten. It was like it was decayed. It was It was decayed. It was like it. It was like it. It was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was decayed. It was decayed. It was like it was like it was like it was decayed. It was decayed. It was decayed. It was decayed. It was like it was like it was decayed. It was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was like. It was whether the being itself was sort of like a zombie kind of animal and

Starting point is 00:45:46 it was decaying, or whether the flesh once it left the animal rapidly began decaying, you know, who knows? But sometimes I think some reports of cryptids, even Bigfoot, can be attributed to them being some kind of another one of the tools in their arsenal for manipulating us and instilling fear in us and expelling us from places that are close to their underground habitations. You know in Skinwalker Ranch as well, sorry I'm rambling a bit now, but I'll just say Skin Walker Ranch in my opinion is very close to an underground facility of these Mugin or Torwites. Another

Starting point is 00:46:26 element of proof from that is that the ranchers when they were there, the ranching family, the particularly famous one, I think they're called the Gormans in the book, but that's just a student in, but I can't remember their real name, but they saw what they described as RV's like recreational vehicles, parked on the property, th-and their their their their their their their parked on the property that would levitate and pass over hedges and over trees and were piloted by giant men in dark suits that would leave huge footprints. Now this is, now Charles Hall in the millennial hospitality books he wrote about the tall whites. That's one of the types of craft he described, what he calls RV craft. Now these

Starting point is 00:47:07 are probably comparable to what people call tick-tacks now as well. They may be the same thing. But the tick-tacks I don't think necessarily reported as having windows along the sides, whereas these other craft often have windows along the sides. But anyway, other than that, quite similar. But so that's more evidence for the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the But anyway, other than that, quite similar. But so that's more evidence for the tall whites or Madgen are being behind Skin Walker Ranch in some way as well. So we have an opportunity to go there. Would you say avoid that neck of the woods? What do you think? Well, I think as long as you're respectful, I think that's the point. As long as you're friendly and respectful and you know threat to them.

Starting point is 00:47:50 Because they get violent, aggressive, homicidal even if their children are threatened. And they're particularly anti-canine. They don't like dogs. You know, so it might seem like a contradiction where I said before they're vegans and all this kind of stuff, but they don't have any sense of humor about guard dogs, about dogs being kept on properties and things like that, and they will slash the fruits of dogs that come too close to them. And they wear, in this, on their boa suits, these cloaking suits, they have prosthetic

Starting point is 00:48:26 claws, these long claws that they wear. And they use these to cut the throats of dogs in particular. Why not? Black Panther meets boring, right? That's all right. And they're not, it's not beyond them as well to kill cattle if they want to prove a point. So a lot of cattle mutilations in my opinion. They sound like asshole vegans, bro.

Starting point is 00:48:50 Don't eat meat but I'll fuck your pets up if you go near my kids. Yeah, yeah. That's what PETA does. They just let them to die. Why are their kids along for the ride? It sounds like they're here mostly on business. Who brings their kids to a haunting? It's like, I couldn't find a babysitter. So just hang out here as we haunt fucking skinwater rat. Yeah, they do take their kids around.

Starting point is 00:49:15 Every way. I'll fight them. That's interesting. You said there's four two of them the Sebeginar and the Magina are closely allied and the others not so much but the the small brown ones that I talked about before the Virginia from the Virginia incident they are. They they more they have like bridges across top of their skulls. They kind of look like what you'd think was a grey, but they're actually dark brown. But more usually if you see them outside their craft, they wear these helmets that have

Starting point is 00:49:53 tall pointed ears, which is some kind of technology. They kind of look like a goblin in their helmets. So the beings in the Kentucky Goblins, the Hopkinsville Goblins are them, an example of them, but actually when they're wearing their helmets. So that race that are called the Sebejanah, the people of Sebe, which is, I think Sebe, is Zeta reticulide, but these guys, they're originally from a kind of Earth. So they are crypto restrials in the sense of they're indigenous to the Earth or a version of Earth. But in their timeline, they've left Earth.

Starting point is 00:50:31 So that means the Mugina are called Orion's as well because they've left Earth. So Earth is like an ancient home to them, an ancient memory, and they've gone back to an ancient version of it to harvest DNA to make themselves whole again. But that two those two races the tall whites or Mugina and the little brown ones, brownies maybe you call subedgena they're very closely allied and they do most things together and the other two not so much I don't think I think they have come into conflict as well in the past. But anyway, yeah. Hey, so is there anywhere we could listen to the Sierra sounds? Yeah, we've had that before on the show.

Starting point is 00:51:12 I can play right now. Yeah, I like to hear it. I don't remember it. Range for nice. We found it on YouTube. I think you can buy the CDs from Ron Moorhead as well and I'm sorry, what's that? I think you can buy the CDs from Ron Moorhead and whatnot, but I think it's also just available on YouTube. That's what we're saying. I'm sorry, what these are the the banging yeah and I think the

Starting point is 00:51:46 voices are live. Keep in mind there's not supposed to be any primates in this neck of the woe that's it. Keep in mind there's not supposed to be any primates in this neck of the wood so you know what I'm saying like? Like, yeah, you're hearing these sounds. There's parts of it where you hear them actually speaking their normal language as well, and it sounds kind of, like, sometimes it's called, um, samurai chatter. Yeah, people of court. I'm not happy. I think the loudest sound is the guy trying to communicate with them. It sounds like almost like a chimpanzee sound. I mean it's definitely a primate of some sort for sure I would say. I'm trying to get to their sounds. He's doing their sounds.

Starting point is 00:53:35 You hear that. That was that? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that is Sam. Yeah, that is Sam. I think that's all good. Yeah, I mean it sounds like a Kung Fu movie from the 70s. It does.

Starting point is 00:53:53 Imagine that they actually spoke to each other in Japanese. But that's also like when somebody is like speaking a foreign language and you're like, did I just say anything, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bang, Bang, Dang. It is funny him trying to talk back to him, right? You're like, did I just say anything? You're being culturally insensitive to us. What if a big foot just walked out? We do not like these are very rude.

Starting point is 00:54:13 You're being culturally insensitive. You're a micro aggression. The Spanish guy from the 70s, th what they sounded like, the tall whites when he met them, he said, it sounds like the martial arts cries of the Orient. That's the way it was described. Ah, that's interesting. So where is your? Oh, suck a do me?

Starting point is 00:54:41 Sounds like every episode of having the movie kill Bill, doesn't it? Oh, do you have a soap? Yeah, we get very dirty in the woods. Stinky. I was right when I said Japan, right? I was like, it sounds like the Japanese, man, futuristic Japanese, bro. They're not having kids. They're super smart. They're making futuristic shit. They're just Japanese coming back, well, howthey're not having kids. They're super smart. They're making futuristic shit.

Starting point is 00:55:07 They're just Japanese coming back, going, well, how did, how did we get here? Giant Japanese, because some experts have analyzed the sounds, and they reckon that particularly the deep voice is being made by someone seven to eight foot talk? I'm not sure how they look. They kind of stuff out. Some yowlings, dog, just all, their their they, they, they, they, they, they're they're they're they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just, they're just. They're just, they're just just. They're just they're just they're just, they're just, they're just. they're just. They're just, they're just, they're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're just. They're, they're, they're just. They're just. They're, they're just. They're, they're just. They're, they're, they're just. They're just. they're just. they're just. they're just. they're just. they're just. they're just, they're just. they're just just just just just just just just just just their their their just their just their just their just just just their just just, their, their just just, their just just, their, their, their, their, their, to 8 foot tall. Damn. Some Yal Ming's dog just all running around. Damn dude. So listen, obviously I've had paranormal experiences.

Starting point is 00:55:36 Johnny has, I don't know if you have. Nothing too crazy. No trupacobras. No Iggy boars. No No LaF- What's the other one? Like your Rona, none of that. Nothing. Nothing. great. No trippacabras. No, Egybors. No, what's the other one? Like your Rona? None of that. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Well, I have I've experienced Talk to me a little bit about your experiences. Yeah, well when I was a kid, the experiences of more poltergized like, and less interesting really than the ones that I've had in the past 10 years or so. You know you've been through some shit when polterguide stuff is like yeah you know nothing that's a couple hauntings some weird polter guys possession stuff nothing too big. Had an amityville horror but that's yeah my house can fucking just became the gateway to hell but you know nothing too much. Yeah yeah yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:27 Basically live the plot of Ghostbusters too. Yeah. That's great. About 10 years ago I had like a really major experience that got me sort of got me cottoned on to being interested in the ET kind of things I thought. Hold on this might be ET related because I've been thinking of it, like I said, there's more like fairies or elves or something like that. And I was standing on the porch suddenly in the middle of the night. And I was, now this is a state of mind that recurs when I'm having experiences with them. And Charles Hall talks about similar states of mind to this when he was interacting with him as well. As I was standing there on my porch in the middle of the night and then I was like, why am I here? And then I turned around and started lining up drinking glasses and money like piling coins and sorting them and things like in a obsessive sort of way, OCD kind of way.

Starting point is 00:57:18 And I was like, this is weird I'm going back inside. As I started to walk to walk to walk levitating. And then I went up over the top of the roof of the veranda up into something and then was laid down on a bed. And then this woman, this woman with huge blue eyes, my leg was sort of crossed over so there was space below my right leg on the bed or whatever it was for her to sit down. And she looked at me and then I felt incredibly comfortable and felt serene and so there was no fear. The whole time this was happening there was the sound that almost aliken it to like someone grabbing a spade and scratching it along the top of concrete over and over again like a... I don't know what that was like it but I've started to wonder whether I was hearing the top of concrete over and over again like a I don't know what that was like it but I've started to wonder whether maybe I was hearing the Santa Mayan heartbeat or

Starting point is 00:58:09 breathing or something like that but there was this weird sound permanently in the background is huge person skinny tall person came over with dark eyes their medics wear black lenses over their eyes, like smart tech. I don't know what it is. With a cap on, a mask, like a, you know, just like our own doctors, like our own nurses. COVID was everywhere, even on that. Ship, they were wearing COVID masks. Protocols. Really, really long hands. So, the four fingers, much longer than ours. And then like a little vestigial thumb further up their their their their their their their their their their their their their.. their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their their. their their. their. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, their, their, their, their, their their, their, tap. tap. tap, tap. tap. tap. tap. tape. tape, tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. tap. their mask, their mask, their mask, much longer than ours, and then like a little vestigial thumb further up their hand. And the guy, and he had rubber gloves on, reached into my mouth and started checking

Starting point is 00:58:53 my teeth like a dentist. And the whole time I'm thinking, this is, I'm not afraid. And I was thinking, I've got to remember this. And then he wandered around behind me and lifted up my head and drilled into the back of my skull, the top of my vertebrae there. It's the most painful thing I've ever had in my life, more painful than like tattoos I've had like under my arm

Starting point is 00:59:18 and rotten teeth and all this kind of stuff blows that away, incredibly painful, but the whole time just felt serene. And then they laid my head back down again and then there was a scan over my body going up and down. And then there was like images flashing images flashing images, like they'd taken over my visual cortex or something. Flushing images of like forests, oceans, mountains, and then the last image they showed me was a huge tree with some kind of a building in the background. And then they were gone. And that was my first, like, being baptized into the more intense experiences that would have come. And after these sort of tabletop inspections and things like that have been happening for

Starting point is 01:00:05 a while, I's invited them in to like have been a drink with me or something. I actually said, I projected a thought and said, thanks for allowing me to remember these things because I was cognizant that if I'm allowed to, if I'm remembering something that's, I'm being allowed to. I was thinking these kinds of thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,. T, thi. that, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I, th. I, th. I th. I, th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. I'm that. And, that. And, that. And, that. And, nights later, standing in my kitchen, talking to someone who I thought was my wife. So this is where you get this kind of what people might call doppelganger effects as well, where you were having an interaction with a person,

Starting point is 01:00:56 and then it turns out it was not that person, like I have a double, but this was them projecting into my mind to see the individual as my wife. We the we we we were th, we were th, we were th, we were th, we were thia thia thi thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I was, I was, I was, I was thi, I was, I was, to to to to to to told, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tooomoomoomorrow, tooomoomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, toeated, told, tooomorrow, thi, thi, thi mind to see the individual as my wife. We were talking for a long time, for a long, I don't know exactly how long. And unfortunately I can't remember exactly what we're talking about, but we were getting along well. She was leaning against the kitchen sink. I was over the other side of the table talking to her. And then my head started to go sort of weird and I knelt down on the floor, crawled out of the room and started doing this thing again like I mentioned before, I started getting socks and matching them up and lining them up.

Starting point is 01:01:32 Then I started levitating, then I started crapping myself, basically, I was having adrenaline rushes, and they sat me down on the bed and then relinquished control, so I was completely awake again. And I just started crapping myself basically. Like I was having adrenaline rushes pumping through my body. And a strong female voice said into my mind, we just had a date. And then I felt fear again and she said, I rolled my eyes at you.

Starting point is 01:02:00 And then I heard her walking through the house, opening the front door, closing it and walking out the driveway. So that was the first time I ever had like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, like, th, th, th, thi thi, thin, thin, thin, thinthrough the house, opening the front door, closing it, and walking out the driveway. So that was the first time I ever had like a... And then when I was thinking about it, I could break through the screen memory. And I could see that it wasn't my wife, and I was thinking, how could I have thought that was my wife? So she's a tall, chalk white woman with huge blue eyes, and a blue, and a blue, thake, thulled, and a blue, thu, thu, and a blue, thu, and a suit with like a circular tech technology on our chest and yeah so that was the so so those kinds of medical procedures and then also more personal personable do that's crazy interactions that some

Starting point is 01:02:38 crazy shit did you feel something when they put that thing behind your head yeah he says the most painful thing you ever fell. But like for how long? Like did it go away? And while it was happening. Just while it was happening. And I've had other experiences like that where there was no pain, but where I could feel it actually going in. One in the top of my skull once, and then a drill in the drill in the the back of, into my back, I think into a real.

Starting point is 01:03:05 And I actually tried to, because I was awake through it, like they hadn't put me out there or allowing me to experience it and stuff. So I moved my hand there and my hand was in the way so they slapped my hand out of the way. And then I went to reach back again and they slapped my hand back out of the way again and I was like okay I'm not supposed to be involved in this. And then and they they zap me in the spine like that doing stuff but that wasn't painful that time even though I could feel it going in. Now and that time that time I said to them I'm going to thank them for this. I'm going to say something into the like the operation theater or whatever it was. There was this weird projection. I don't know if it was a window as well or if it was like a display of a purple move sky with like purple rocks and crags and things like that and and this and the woman with big blue eyes I was going to say something and before I could even say it she leant into my face and shushed me. And then she walked off and I said it thany.. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thoed tho- tho-I was liked th th th the tho- th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. I was th. I was th. I was the the to to to to to to to say to say to to say to say to to to say to to to to say to to say to to theeee. I was the. I was the. I was the. I was to say something and before I could even say it, she went down into my face and shushed me.

Starting point is 01:04:06 And then she walked off and I said it anyway. I said, oh, thanks, Orion's, because you can call them Orion's because they've had an involvement with the Orion's belt. Anyway, so. And then there was no response and they just kept working on me and stuff. And then I thought I was hilarious for being able able thierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierierier. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I was thi. I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I was to say, I to say, I to say, I. I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I th. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was to say, I was to say, I was thi. I was to say, I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thooooea. I was told. told. told. told, I was told, I was to say, I was to say, thought I was hilarious for being able to say something and she said to me then it is not funny and I felt like a bit of an idiot and then she goes but you received an ovation you know like a like an applause or an ovation or something and I was thinking oh I'm not so so there's mixed messages there so she's a Karen everyone enjoyed the

Starting point is 01:04:42 joke except for her oh I got it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was not funny even though everyone enjoyed it. Sounds like you've some people you've run into it. It sounds like every night in my life. That is so. So what's that procedure? Is that harvesting genetic material? Is that what that is? Well that one I up. Yeah. So the first the one that I said that was painful. I asked them about that. the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one the one that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the one the one that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that the the the that I said that was painful, I asked them about that and they said, transmitter. And the one, the time that I got done in the top of my head and in my foot and in the rib in the same session, I said, what was that about? And they said, for language and running. And I said, what does that mean? And they said, it's a gift, stop going on about it. It sounds like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the like their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their th. th. the. that tom, tome. tom, tom, tomorrow. tomorrow. tomorrow. tomorrow. their their their their their their their their, what does that mean? And they said, it's a gift. Stop going on about it. It sounds like they communicate with you in a kind of a broken form of English.

Starting point is 01:05:31 Now, is that just because it's telepathic and maybe you don't have the equipment for a telepathy, or what is that? Yeah, I'm not sure. The way that kind of telepathy works, that might be it, yeah. The way that kind of telepathy works as well, or it seems to work with me anyways, that's, it's linguistic in nature, but it feels like it's a silent voice, like maybe your own reading voice when you're silently reading to yourself or something like that. But sometimes it's obviously masculine, obviously feminine, or sometimes it can be sort of neutral, and it feels almost like it's tangible like it's like it's solid, like it's 3D somehow, like it's expressed much faster than a person could articulate a sentence. So it's like a whole sentence comes as like a packet.

Starting point is 01:06:24 Like a part almost. But you can still experience it like it's in English, you know, and and also if they're particularly standing close when they do it, you feel a thump in your head. You actually feel like your whole mind sort of move. And if they're, and also if they're very close, like I've had this a few times, my ears pop. So I don't know what that is, like a change in air pressure or something that's involved with the technology. I don't understand that. But I've had my ears pop when it happens as well sometimes. But yeah, sometimes they speak a few sentences in one go but it delivered very quickly or sometimes it'll just be a few words. It's fascinating. But they can also project images into your mind. They can take over your eyes. They've done this to me as well, where once I woke up in bed

Starting point is 01:07:12 and I could see the ceiling and the chest of drawers in the lamp and then I felt the throwns on the periphery. And then I turned my head, but I could still only see the ceiling with the chest of drawers in the lamp. And then I felt hands on me. And they were rolling me around and moving them. They even sat me up. But I could still only see the ceiling of my bedroom with the lamp and all that there. Like they were overriding, like they didn't want you to see on that particular occasion where I was. So they were doing it in this this this this this thi this way thi thi which thi which thi which thi which thi which thi which the the way the way the way thi which the way the way, which thi, which thi, which thi, which thi, which thi, thr- thrown, thr- thrown, thrown, thrown, th. thrown, thrown, thrown, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the their, their the, the, the, the, thr. thr. thr. thr. the. the. the. the. the. they were, they were, the. they were, they were theeeeat the. the. the. th see on that particular occasion where I was. So they were overriding what I could see. But they were doing it in this way, which does seem kind of primitive in a way,

Starting point is 01:07:49 where they've just hijacked my eyes or something. But they've put one solid image, you know, one unchanging image over the top regardless of what I'm doing, turning my eyes and things like that, and I can still just see just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the same just the same just the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same fixed image. So that was pretty full on as well. So they, but then they can all, and they can send images into your mind like just, um, you know, like images, like, images like I said earlier of like buildings, people, you know, nature of wilderness areas,

Starting point is 01:08:17 whatever. And then also sometimes abstract ideas. Like all of a sudden I feel like I go to ask them something and then I already have the answer and I understand. But like it didn't come in a linguistic way, not like not like telepathic speech, but like some kind of notion was expressed to me somehow. Yeah, like yeah, like a doubt sometimes people in uphology call that kind of thing I, a download I think where you just all of a sudden there's this extra information you've got and you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the answer.. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer the answer the answer. the answer. the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. the answer. th the answer. th th the answer. th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to the to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the answer. the the the you call that kind of thing a download, I think, where you just, all of a sudden there's this extra information you've gotten, you don't know how you got. Did they give you any indication of why? Did you ask why you? What, did you ask that?

Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah, I've asked that a lot. They're not normally, they've said to me things like, they call me needle in a haystack. They say that a lot when they're talking to me. They're referred to you. That's your code name? Needle and haystack? Yeah. I mean, and it's long-winded and it sounds silly or whatever,

Starting point is 01:09:17 but it's like, right, okay. And I think it's Uzbboll in their own language which in their language means salt in sand which expresses the same kind of idea. Oh yeah yeah okay. And so they say they've known me all my life though as well so that suggests they weren't really looking for me. You know say needle in a haystack suggests you're looking for a certain kind of person or blah blah. So it's a bit conflicted there where they've said yeah they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've known they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've their their they've they've they've they've they've they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the a big conflicted there where they've said, yeah, they've known me on my life on one hand, but then also they call me needle in a haystack.

Starting point is 01:09:48 They also call me clever monkey, which is a bit patronizing, but anyway. And I think, at first I just thought they wanted me to, okay, hold on a second, I'll wind back a bit here to when I was in th, I was in th, I was in my early 20s and I used to go camping in the Daninong Ranges, it's like a mountain range east of Melbourne, a huge eucalypt forest there. And I used to camp there sometimes and one time I went up there and I was particularly interested in elves and fairies and Celtic lore and I sent out, I thought, oh, if there are such things as elves, this is a perfect place for them, it's huge forest up in the mountains, up in the mountains, up in the mountains, the mountains, the mountains, the mountains, thua, thua, thui, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and I, and I, thi, thi, thi, I was, I was, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, and, thu, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi, thi, thi, and, and, thi, thri, and, and, and, thriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, their, their, their, their, for them, this huge forest up in the mountains. And I had, that was in my early 20s and I had full on experience where in the tent

Starting point is 01:10:29 there were lights outside. Nowadays I suppose I'd think of them as orbs. Back then I'd know what to call them. It's just lights moving around. People running around the tent, touc, the tent, their time where it was night, but then all of a sudden, boom, it was morning. And I was like, and I said to them, oh, I'll help you in anything that you want or need done. This is something that I'd said to them. And I was particularly interested as well in witchcraft and druid and things like that as well. And I was saying to them, I'll be your druid, I'll help help help help help th, I'll help th, I'll help, I'll help, I'll their, I'll th, and I'll th, and I'll th, and I'll th, and I'll th, and I'll th, and th, and I'll th, and I'll, and I'll, th. th. I'll, thi, thi, I'm, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I... I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, th. I'm, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a, tha, tha, tha, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, them, I'll be your druid, I'll help you in things that you want. And then they said to me, we'll hold you to the bargain. And then just like a few years ago, like 10 years ago was probably something like that.

Starting point is 01:11:13 It was a fair while ago now, but they said to me, will we hold you to that bargain? And then I was like, the fairies are the same dudes, you're, thua, thua, thua, thua, thian, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was like, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th.......... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. the, like, th. the, the, th. th. the, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, the. th. the fairies are the same dudes, you know. And I was like, OK, so what do you want me to do? And I was thinking they wanted me to write books and try to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they exist by pattern recognition. Not so much necessarily by talking about my own experiences, which I don't see my book until the very end. But establish like an investigation into their presence and used profiling techniques to build a compendium of characteristics of their habitation, language, appearance, behaviors, and demonstrate through time that they are the same beings from ancient

Starting point is 01:11:55 Celtic mythology called Bucket Gentry, tall fair beings that lived underground that whistled and chirped. This was a kind of Gaelic elf in the old days, identical to child souls tall whites in the Mugina. And then I decided, okay, with pattern recognition, I'll demonstrate to people through building this cryptotrestrial profile and adding elements to it, using the list to seek out other cases that match it, and then using each new case to further inform the list.. the list and build a bigger picture of the beings and what they are and what they look like to prove to people that they exist.

Starting point is 01:12:32 And I have been doing that, but they also now are suggesting I should be doing other things. So they're particularly concerned, and I know this kind of stuff sounds a bit corny, but particularly concerned about not just the way we treat each other, but also the way that we're treating the biosphere, because they have to live here now as well. They permanently live here again. And in that kind of, you know, which isn't been embarrassing, but I suppose like an eco-guru kind of way, some kind, they want me also to talk about this kind of stuff, this sort of, you know, hippie-dippy ecological talk, healing the biosphere, preserving biodiversity of life. Even pushing, you know, veganism and things like that, because they are vegans,

Starting point is 01:13:22 they consider that the animal agriculture and husbandry to be a major problem with the destruction of natural habitat, which is another reason why they don't mind killing cattle because they would destroy that economy and industry if they put it. So they don't mind using cattle as tools. And they kill cattle in ways that it was much more humane than the way weed up dealing. But they consider it to be an industry that shouldn't exist anyway. But yeah, so there was the old thing of just a tool maybe to try to express to people as an investigator that they exist and

Starting point is 01:13:56 establish that. But now there's more of this kind of which I'm less comfortable with because I feel like a bit of a tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. theui. the. the the. the. the. the. the. I thi. the thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. And thi. And thi. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. And th. And the th. And th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And tha. And tha. And tha. And tha. And toda. And toda. And toda. And toda. And today, the. And, the. And, thi. And, of a doofist doing it. But the more of the, you know, trying to express ideas about how we should all basically love each other and hang out and kill the planet. But can I, can I, sorry, real quick. Now, you say that they, they have some interest in kind of revealing themselves. Why can they not manifest physically? Is that not easy for them to just do that? I mean, because they could quite easily, you know, I'm going to say the obvious thing here, but they could quite easily just appear, you know, on main street and any town. Yeah, they could. They haven't done that, of course. They don't want to do that yet for some reason, best known to themselves, maybe because it had caused economic collapse issues, problems in particular I think with religion. One stage they'd said to me as well, I don't know, I'm going to self-censor, maybe I shouldn't say this because, oh come on. You guys can cut it out if you think it's inappropriate. This isn't live, is it? No it's not. It's not. So I was going to say is one stage they said to me that there there the there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there their they'll be their they'll be their they'll be they'll be they'll be their their their th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they thi thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I they're they're they're they're they'll they'll they'll they'll they'll their thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I think thi. I thi. I it out if you think it's inappropriate. This isn't my is it? No, it's not. It's not. So I was going to say is one stage they said to me that there will be a high suicide rate. Huge amounts of people will commit suicide if they do

Starting point is 01:15:12 that as well because it'll make nonsense of a lot of religion as it currently exists on the planet. It's like just cultural, a cultural artifacts. You, they don't really have much of a relationship with any objective reality. None of our religions do, they say. They have their own religion and spiritual system, which is tied to their technologies and their ideas about multiple universes and all this kind of stuff. They are sort of spiritual in their own way, but and they have a priest class and blah blah, blah, but they don't, they consider that to be a real problem that as well, revealing themselves could or would, they say, mean there's a lot of people taking their own lives. Yeah, I mean, that has been the feeling why people, I mean, you saw that right with

Starting point is 01:16:02 the, you remember that, that radio show that acted like we were being invaded? People killed themselves. All the alien invasion? Yeah, the war of the world. Yeah, war the world. Oh, yeah, boom, killed themselves. She's like, okay. That's a little extreme there.

Starting point is 01:16:20 But it is, it makes you wonder if you are into a certain type of organized religion and based on some of the teachings, does alternative realities, multiverse all that stuff, does that make you question your own reality? And... Yeah, but also I mean are these the people we want to be taking a lead from if they've they've shish-gabob their own DNA they borrow a phrase that you know I completely agree on that as well is like are they a higher form or they just wait from the future like yeah yeah they don't want us well this is what they say anyway I mean of course you know everyone seems to be inherently selfish and they've got their own best motive that their own best interests at heart probably just as we would I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th as th as th as we th as we th as we would th as we would th as we would th as we would th as we would th as we would th as we would th as th as th as th as th as th as th as thus thus thus th as th as th as they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty te try te try they're they're they're they're they they they they they've got their own best motive, their own best interests at heart, probably, just as we would.

Starting point is 01:17:08 But they don't want us to alter our genetics. They don't want us to become like them. They are an example of that messing them up, you know. So they prefer if we gave up the kind of stuff. So they do, and also they would share technologies with advanced technologies if they could be, there could be fail-safes so that they wouldn't be weaponized by some things like that, because it'd be very easy for certain groups of Homo sapiens to weaponize power systems and then basically destroy the planet a million times over much worse than nuclear weapons you know. So we're sort of a bit untrustable in that sense as well but but yeah I mean it's highly patronizing

Starting point is 01:17:54 you know lots of people when they find out about this or consider you know it's up to the individual to look at what I say and of course you know decide how compelling they find my arguments and my own testimony and all that kind of stuff. But so people when they do consider it to be a possibility and are like, oh, this guy's kind of making sense, you know, he's tying things together. Lots of people have a negative response to that because they think, man, these dudes have been here for thousands of years, thi DNA, hiding from us, manipulating our minds, in a sense they are our gods in a lot of ways because them being here on the periphery of our world and sometimes interacting with us and sometimes we half

Starting point is 01:18:37 remember and all that kind of stuff has fueled a lot of our religion, you know, has given rise to a lot of religious systems and spiritual beliefs over the years. You know, and I've seen a lot of religious systems and spiritual beliefs over the years. You know, and I've seen them in Bois suits. Now, there's no way you're going to be able to convince a devout, fundamentalist Christian say, seeing the in these suits. There's no way you're going to be able to convince that individual that these aren't demons. I mean, they're not, in the sense that they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't, they're they're they're they're not, they're not, they're they're not, they're they're not, they're not, their, they're not, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their. their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. they're not in the sense that they don't have any of the religious baggage associated

Starting point is 01:19:07 with demons from Christianity, but in a sense they are because the idea of a demon has come from them, in my opinion. People over the centuries interacting with them and also of angels. Fallen angels. Yeah, and angels, you know, because when they're wearing other kinds of suits and levitate, like Charles Hall saw them a lot, wearing white suits and levitating, and they've got white hair and big blue eyes and floating around, they look like angels then. So they're demons and angels in

Starting point is 01:19:39 that sense that they've spawned these belief systems. A lot of religious systems in the world exist because of them as well as misinterpretations their their their their their their they, like like like like like like like like their their their their their they they their they they they they their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they're like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like like, like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like like like like, like like like like like like like like like like like like, like like like like, like, like, like, like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're, they're their, they're their, their, like, like, like, systems. A lot of religious systems in the world exist because of them as well, as misinterpretations or reinterpretations. Like cargo hosts. People are trying to understand, you know. Do you, um, have they contacted your wife at all? No, she has had experiences, but nothing like I've had, she has had experiences, like with shadow people, waking up in the night with people, as people, as people, as interpretations, as interpretations, as the the the the the the the interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as the the the the the the the interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as interpretations, as interpretations, as, as, as, as, as, as, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as interpretations, as, as, as interpretations, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as but nothing like I've had, she has had experiences like with shadow people waking up in the night

Starting point is 01:20:08 with people standing by the bed and then feeling a thought, oh, don't worry about that. That's just, that's just, and then she looks overseas me, and it's not me, but thinks it's okay and falls back to sleep and things like that. She's having interactions. When she was pregnant at one stage she had an interaction where she was probably taken somewhere else. I mean it may have just been a dream of course but um and and having having something done to her and then when she woke up in the

Starting point is 01:20:40 morning she had a mark on the bottom of her belly and then another one in her shin, like some, like a sample or something had been taken. And she's also had dreams of baby, you know, lots of experiences in euthology around the world. They talk about baby presentations where people will have a weird experience where they're taking on board a craft and they're presented with an infant and they're asked to hold it and bond with it and then it's taken back. So this is I think is part of their breeding programs and things like that. You know that a lot of people across the face of the earth have contributed genetic material to their developing generations and stuff as

Starting point is 01:21:26 time's gone, as the centuries have gone on. Which is why when Peter Curie was having interposed with that woman in Sydney and a tall, fair woman with a long face and huge blue eyes, he said that she was probably about seven foot tall if she stood up. She left a hair and when they did a DNA test on it, it had rare Gaelic and Basque DNA. So human DNA, but it also, I think the shaft had Gaelic and Basque DNA, whereas the root was a rare kind of Mongoloid DNA, so it was like a hair graft graft so it was this odd hair white long hair it had resistance to HIV and other STs as well and but you see it's human because they are future humans and also it has gaelic and basket DNA and things like that because of the

Starting point is 01:22:21 and she the fairy lover, you know, for centuries and centuries in European society, particularly Cali-Colitan-Sci, the fairy lover, people being called away in the middle of the night and going into trances, to have trists with people and have sex with people, like fairies, tall fair beans and things in forests or taken into the earth or even fairies visiting, male ferry visiting women, female ferries, visiting men and having sex and then they're being produced from that. This has been going on for a long, long time. And so the idea that you can take some DNA from a tall white now and it have, say, Gaelic

Starting point is 01:23:09 DNA is not surprising, or shouldn't be surprising. So they're constantly reinforcing. I don't know how much it goes the other way. Like lots of people in euthology talk about, oh, you know, I'm a star seed and I have, you know, Orion DNA and all this kind of stuff. I don't think it necessarily goes the other way. I don't think they're necessarily, I mean, maybe they do or maybe they are sometimes, but like interbreeding with us and affecting our genetics and giving some of our genetics to us.

Starting point is 01:23:40 I don't think they'd be doing that because they want us to be pure in the sense of not being corrupted by them. But it does go the other way. So they're taking our genetics. It's for them to save themselves. That's fascinating. The needle in the haystack thing you mentioned, did you have any indication that might have been something to do with your genetics? What do you think thatthat meant? I'm not sure.

Starting point is 01:24:06 Your compliance, like your willingness to comply with them perhaps? Yeah, well, I suspect that I feel like all the interests I've ever had in my life have all been leading to this. Everything I've ever been interested in and ever studied has led to this. And I don't know whether that's them manipulating me or whether it's just a happy coincidence that I have a certain knowledge about certain things. Like there's lots of things I'm completely thick about. I only know a lot about a few particular things

Starting point is 01:24:37 and I'm quite clueless about the rest of the world, basically, but those particular things that I've had an incredibly nerdy passion about in my life I think have sort of made me appropriate to be some kind of tool to them in getting what they need to be done at the stage. And who knows, the fruit of this might, like my wife likes to say this to him, even though it's a bit of a depressing thought. She's like, you know, no one might care about what you have to say until you're long gone. You know, maybe you ought to be a hundred years from now people will rediscover your books and what you said and go, hey, that guy actually

Starting point is 01:25:13 knew what he was talking about way back then. I prefer if it wasn't that though. I prefer if it was started that I'm appropriate for this kind th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theee. theeea. thea. theea. thea. thea. theea. theea. thea., how they've decided that I'm appropriate this kind of stuff and what a needle in a haystack really means, you know. What if they've used your DNA all over the place that you just have a bunch of kids running around in Orion, you're like some guy that don't donate sperm to a sperm. Yeah, they all just have big red be kids all over. Would you want to be part of it? What that? No, I don't want to get tapped in my stall.

Starting point is 01:25:48 No, you want to want to be part of the future? I mean, I created two kids. I am a part of the future. True, good point. So, you know, if they want to give me some, if to give, if the language, if, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, the, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Why you can't run now? I don't know. I don't know. Well, I have like, I haven't been doing much of it lately to tell you the truth. I need to start getting back into it again, but I used to be a very keen long distance runner, trail runner.

Starting point is 01:26:15 And so, and I've also been interested in linguistics on languages and stuff like so when they said they they they they they they they they they they they they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said they said to me it's for language and for running, I was like, so, because that's ambiguous really. That could be saying, oh, they're giving me something, they're improving my linguistic abilities, improving my running, or it could be, you have linguistic abilities that are beneficial in some way, you have abilities, physical abilities or something that we, like for running, long-distance running running that we want to harness. That's how they got to pick people it can't just be random random people you got to have something special or an attribute or yeah probably you know there's some thought that among you a philologist that when when when what would you say like alien races

Starting point is 01:27:07 come to us that they won't actually be physical you know physically present that but they're they're gonna be you know like what you say like remote piloted vehicles you know that that maybe are in the shape of humanoid but but aren't you know aren't actual physical, you know, they're present physically. What do you, is there any chance at that, have you experienced anything like that and you're, you're, and you're pretty sure that they, these creatures are actually here though, right? Yeah, I'm very sure they're actually here, but of course no one can be 100% sure of anything, you know, like, we'll just say I'm 99% sure sure I'm 99% sure I'm 99% sure I'm 99% sure that I'm 99% sure sure sure sure sure sure sure that I'm 99% sure sure sure that that I'm 99% sure that I'm 99% sure that that that I'm 99% sure that that I'm 99% sure that that that I'm 99% sure just say I'm 99% sure that they are flesh and bone beings that are related to us and they're here and they have been here for a very long time.

Starting point is 01:27:51 But of course, you know, I don't like to close myself off. No one should, I suppose, from other possibilities. But I'm quite satisfied that they are real beings that are related to us, flesh and blood, you know, with that, with the, with the, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're here, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they're, and they, and they're, and they, and they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, their, their, their, their, that are related to us, flesh and blood. With sophisticated but nonetheless nuts and bolts technologies that allow them to do amazing things like thear, thrown into dimensionally, move through portals and things like that, become intangible so they can shift their own atomic structure, can walk through walls and all this kind of stuff. But nonetheless, it is based, really it's not like their their their their their their their they they they they's not like their their their, like their, like their, like their, like their, like their, like their, their own atomic structure, can walk through walls and all this kind of stuff. But nonetheless it is based in the really it's not like their spiritual, it's still material, you know. It's like magic to us, you know, but it's based in the concrete.

Starting point is 01:28:36 You say they're here, where exactly are they in the earth? Are they in like a beyond the veil that we just can't see past? Are they in cities that we can't see? What kind of organization do they have to their society that's here? They have underground habitations that they have one, like here underneath Victoria is a strip of sea called Bastrate that's between Tasmania and Victoria and there's a continental shelf there and they've got a habitation in there but they have them all over the world under the oceans and within mountains wilderness areas within the crust of the earth and there's

Starting point is 01:29:19 12 million of them have told me recently so much fewer of of them than here present than they are of us. They have bases on the moon and on Mars apparently, but they're mainly here. And they're just as physical. They said to me at one stage, this was a while back like nine years ago, 10 years ago, we are just as physical as you. We are more physical than you might think. And I was like, oh, well, I didn't necessarily think you won't. But yeah, so the, I know, to some people will be disappointed by that kind of stuff. Like if these, these beings present themselves and demonstrate that, yeah, they have wonderful technologies, but basically they can manipulate your mind to make you think things are real that aren't. They can also cloak, they can shift their atomic structure, they can harness portals to whip across to the other side of the earth

Starting point is 01:30:11 or to other places. But nevertheless, it's not really magical and it's not spiritual. Yeah, I mean, that's my question. Do you think that when you see these, these spacecrafts, do you think that they are manmade or do you think they're extraterrestrial? I tend to believe that they move through portals and interdimensional, but there are people who believe that these alien, I personally don't, but what are your thoughts? They do have a fleet of craft that they brought with them from the other timeline that are genetically grown biological machines that they've

Starting point is 01:30:54 grown in zero-g that are sentient and are these wonderful seamless things and stuff that lots of people talk about seeing. But in the time that they've been, they have a limited amount of them and in the time that they've been, they have a limited amount of them. And in the time that they've been here, they've constructed a lot of craft out of our infrastructure. So I don't have a massive infrastructure present here of their own, so they utilize products of our own from our own, like our own fabrications. Like for instance, Charles Hall talked about being on board one RV craft and it had hammocks in it, it had a shower and it had bunks in it that were straight off the shelves from a hardware store in the 60s in America.

Starting point is 01:31:37 And also a couple of times I've been on RV type craft of theirs and they have bus seats, like our bus seats and the pilot bus seats, like our bus seats, and the pilot seats were seats that just look like they're out of our fighter planes maybe, two seats up the front. So they and and with you know in segments, you know, factory built fabrications that have come from our infrastructure and industry. Now, I don't know how much they're just taking these things from us where they won't be noticed or sometimes maybe where they will be noticed, or how much the powers that be in the world, you know, like shadow governments or,

Starting point is 01:32:22 you know, people behind S4 and Area 51 and all that kind of stuff. Um, what kind of agreements exist that may be supplying them with our technologies that they're using to superior effect with superior science? So they have a lot of craft that are made out of our junk. So sometimes when people see craft that have rivets or segments or don't really look like they should be as advanced, they don't look like they're as advanced as they should be as you'd imagine they could be. They're not necessarily our ones that are you know back-engineered version of ET craft. They could possibly be examples of this kind of thing where they're using

Starting point is 01:33:06 our stuff. That's so interesting. That's so interesting. That is, dude. What, so now you say that they're here from another timeline, can they easily, is that a one-way trip or can they transport themselves back to their own timeline? Well I would have said, I thought that that that that that they they they they they tha tha tha tha tha tha they tha tha tha thi thi thi thi tho tho that tho tho thi tho tho tho thoes thoesomea thi. thia thi. they were they're they're they're thia. I was thiaugheaughaughaughaughaughaughaughaughaugha.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. I was thia. I was thia. That's is thia.a. That's is tha. That's is tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. tha. I thought that they that it was closed off that the conduit was supposed to be closed that they'd come here and then there's this idea that once two timelines are too divorced from each other or

Starting point is 01:33:35 dissimilar it can be difficult to navigate your way back like if you've gone into a different timeline and messed around with it so it's off on a different path the trajectory yours would have been on. But then it can be difficult to navigate your way back. But the thing is is years ago they said to me there is a million of us. Whereas just a few months ago they said to me now there are 12 million of us which means that they must have they must be in contact with their old world. But I don't know how easy it is for it is for they it is for they it is for their is for their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their old world. But I don't know how easy it is for them to go back, but it seems like they definitely have been able to penetrate into this timeline again and and send a lot more of themselves here. Was that your last communication with them a couple

Starting point is 01:34:15 months ago? When did you last communicate with these entities? Uh, no, no, I have communications with a lot of the telepathic kind, almost every night. But I only remember being visited by them maybe once a month. They said to me, we visit you for 10 minutes every night for education. They said that to me about a month ago or something. Yours are there. Yours are there education. Was it implied?

Starting point is 01:34:40 I don't know. That's another ambiguity. I don't know about that either. Whether they they they they they they they they they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they mean they they they they they th. the the. the. the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I thean. I thean. I thean. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I's another ambiguity. I don't know about that either. Yeah. Whether they mean they're teaching me or they're learning from me in some way, like studying me or whatever. Would you say you learn? I don't think I'd have much to teach them other than the maybe, you know, studying me or what. That's so interesting, dude. I could go on forever. A weird, crazy. Our world is so much more interesting than they want us Imagine talking to them every night. Yeah I mean do you get sleep man? Yeah, you exhausted? Yeah, I mean, do you get sleep? Yeah, I mean? they make you tell them the same story over and over again? Are you like? I already told you tole? thrown? thrown? to? the to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the tell? the tha to their to to to to their to to to to their to their their to their their their to their to to their to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their? their their their their the the the the the the the the the te? te? to. te? te. te. tell. tell. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t actually? Like good rim sleep or what? Yeah, yeah, I think so, yeah. I usually get, I need about eight hours like everyone does. I usually wake up fairly rested. Sometimes I wake up and feel like I haven't slept even though I thought I did.

Starting point is 01:35:35 That might be because I'm interacting with them, but they've suppressed the memories and I didn't get enough sleep, you know. But normally when they interact in that telepathic way, it'll be when I'm first going to bed, and I'll lie down in bed, and then, because there's some of them that seem to be here fairly permanently. And they use names that are, you know, names like our names. They're not their real names, sort of like the way maybe Chinese people might take on board a Western name and use that instead of their original Chinese name because they don't want us trying to pronounce their name and butchering their name or whatever.

Starting point is 01:36:13 You know, and in that's similar way, the Magina take on names. So there's one guy called Joe that has come to visit a their their their their their their their their their their their their their visit a few times. He is a guard. He calls himself Joseph or Joe. Then there's a female guard as well that calls herself Sibolene. And they, I think, are fairly permanently around. They've said to me, we protect you and we are always here. Sometimes they interact with me, but it's like they're not really meant to be interacting with me too much. That's not their job or something. But lots of different individuals have visited me but there's particular ones. There's one that calls itself Branu, which I spell B-R-A-N-U. There's another one that calls itself Butterfly, and there's Joseph, there's Siboline, and then there's another one one that calls that calls that calls that calls that calls that calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls calls that calls Siboline, and then there's another one who calls himself Mark.

Starting point is 01:37:05 And they're the main ones that I've had interactions with, especially the one that calls himself Joe. He's about my height, I'm 5-8, which means he'd be about, like, 70 or 80 years old or something like that because they take a long time to grow. And he has like really fizzy white hair all sticking out the back, huge eyes. A few times I've had interactions with him have been lucid, I am awake, I am in the house,

Starting point is 01:37:33 and he is there. But I don't have fear response. So there's still mental manipulation happening where they're removing my critical faculties or something. So he'll be there, he'll th me and then he'll leave and it's only then will hit me that there was a that there was a person in my house that shouldn't be there as though they've relinquished some kind of control so that and then I'll be amazed by it or whatever but yeah. Just shooting a shit with Joe. Late night's that? Late night talk with Joe?

Starting point is 01:38:05 That's so interesting. That's so, it really is like those Indian scam mark, you know, like, this is Timothy calling you from Microsoft. You know, you know, that's they take those names like that. That's so cool. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. That's so funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:23 Yeah, I'm all about this man. Johnny you love this. I really do. John likes Johnny. Can you give John my number? Have him call me? Yeah. Joe, you mean? Joe, John, all of them. Joe, you gotta get it right. Don't fend them with fake names. Don't fuck up their fake names. Time might get him to talk to me. That'd be so great. I wonder if they come and talk Spanish to you. Do they ever tell you anything about like where we live? Like is it a planet? Is it flat earth? Is it a round? Do they ever tell you that? They've never talked about that. I've always presumed it's around, but I've never really got

Starting point is 01:38:57 into the whole of that stuff and look at the evidence or whatever. Can we send you a list of questions to ask? Yeah, I mean you could, but they don't, sometimes they respond immediately to things I ask, sometimes it takes them a while, or sometimes they just don't. They don't even say that they won't respond. They just don't answer certain kinds of questions. And like, in a weird way, do you think you could communicate through like the Weegee board with them? Or like is there any way to talk to them through it during the day or something? Well people I think a lot of ghost hunters like you get successful ghost

Starting point is 01:39:33 hunter channels on YouTube like there's one in particular called Twin Paranormal. It's a group of young guys in their 20s from Nevada and they have interactions with what they presume are ghosts but I watch that channel a lot and I think a lot of their interactions are with Magina and one of the things they use is like a spirit app which is just an app to your phone which sounds pretty lame but and I think a you know it's seen some of the interactions they have the what's spoken through the vocabulary it has like a vocabulary and you can the the interactions they have, what's spoken through, the vocabulary. It has like a vocabulary and you can, and the spirits or whatever, allegedly can take

Starting point is 01:40:12 over it and say sentences or individual words. What? Yeah, but these particular guys have a lot of success with it. I think if you do it and there's no paranormal things present, it's just going to spit out some random stuff, you know. These guys, yeah, these guys, yeah. And, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their spirits, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and things present it's just going to spit out some random stuff you know. Yeah these guys yeah yeah yeah so do to face tattoos they're talking to the people on the other side that's who's representing us yeah to face tattoos see they went to Skin Walkers the Skin Walkers land you've got up up there that particular episode that's got some that's pretty cool. That's definitely much in interaction when they go out to a fort in the desert

Starting point is 01:40:50 Music I'd like to introduce all three of us my name is Ryan the guy right in front of me his name is River the sound club rapper the guy standing furthest away from us. His name is Wyatt. We are here to see if there's anybody who'd like to communicate with us and maybe if you have anything to say. Is this not the greatest time in the history of time to be alive? You can have face tattoos, be a ghost hunter and be making good money on the, like what a blessing, it is? What a blessing dude. Are we got to have those guys on be like come on talk to us. Night vision cameras they're

Starting point is 01:41:32 in it. They're in it. I'm all about that action dude. Why don't we go to do that? You guys go do that? Let me know how go. I don't like messing around with that kind kind of stuff. I gotta be honest, I got the fear of God. Everybody wants us to go to Skin Walker. Now, do you get the sense that if you come up against some health issues or something that they might you know, kind of put in a good word with the techno overlords and maybe send you down a little healing computer chip or something like that? Well, there's been a couple of times where I'm pretty sure they've saved my life already. Oh, real. One time, it's a cliche, but when I was out for a run, I almost got hit by a bus. And what happened was I was running along the edge of the road and I checked for traffic.

Starting point is 01:42:21 But then the bus came so quickly, I don't know how I didn't hear it. And just as I was I was about I was about I was about I was about I was about I was about about about the voice I was about the voice I was about the voice I was about the voice the voice the voice the voice the voice the voice the voice th. I was about th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to then the bus came so quickly, I don't know how I didn't hear it. And just as I was about to step out in front of it, the voice said, we are sorry. Which is a strange thing to say when you're saving someone's life. But anyway, I stopped because of the voice, and it shot past me so close I could feel the wind off it. My beard shook in the wind. And another time I had been poisoned by handling like fertilizer and I had a cut. I'd opened a beer not like on a bench and nicked my thumb and I had a bit of a cut and I thought it had healed but I was spreading fertilizer on the garden and I got an infection, really bad

Starting point is 01:43:05 infection, they got up into my glands and I was lying in bed I was just in agony and they said to me a voice said you were going to be hospitalized and then I could hear them talking to each other they were saying he might die but he is strong and then they said don't worry when you were in the hospital keep an eye out for the nurse with a long neck. Keep an eye out for the nurse with the long neck. That's one, it's an inside agent.

Starting point is 01:43:32 It's a covert agent. Yeah, and so when I was in bed in the middle of the night, this woman came over with a weird neck. So they have very long necks, especially when they get older and they can get quite tall but their necks are like much longer than our next but anyway and she gave me something as well so I suspect you know they were putting them on antibiotics and all that kind of stuff and maybe I would have survived anyway certainly without antibiotics I would have died. I think I would have died very quickly because it was moving from her body

Starting point is 01:43:59 the infection but um though you know the hospital was giving me antibiotics anyway but they had said to me that this woman was going to give me extra stuff so that was one of them and there's been other occasions where there was one occasion where they took me to a hospital to look like one of our own hospitals and I was sitting in the bed and there was a doctor and a woman tall woman as well that looked like she had a wig on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th on a th. th. th. the the th. th. the the the the the the the the. the. the this this thi. This the. This this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this thi. this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. this this this th. th. thi thi thi thi the the the thi. This the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi th in the bed and it was a doctor and a woman, tall woman as well that looked like she had a wig on a dark wig but it was definitely one of them. And they showed me a scan that was the one sitting in the bed and she pointed to it and she had this green sort of hue to it but and I was thinking oh that's me. I presume that was a scan of me. that was thu- that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, thu- thu- thu-I thu-I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. that's that's that's that's that was that was that was that was that was that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a that was a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the thi. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. thee. thee. thee. th bed. And she pointed to it and she said there are no changes yet. But it's too early to see changes. I don't know what that means. I noticed on either side of the image of myself there were two green blobs and I thought maybe there's

Starting point is 01:44:58 two people standing there next to me that have been caught picked up by the technology. And I went to look and she said pay no attention to to to to to the ghosts to the ghosts the ghosts to the ghosts to the ghosts the ghosts to the ghosts the ghosts to the ghosts the ghosts the ghosts to the caught picked up by the technology. And I went to look and she said pay no attention to the ghosts by your side. And then they got me up and I couldn't walk properly. They sat me in a wheelchair, wheeled me out into the parking lot of a hospital with street lights on at night. And I was like, what's going on here? They're using our facilities sometimes as well, it would seem. They loaded me into the back the back the back the back the back the back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back into the back back back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back the back to be to facilities sometimes as well it would seem. They loaded me into the back of a like an RV type, Tic-Tac type craft and took me back again. But that was like they were, took me back home again. That was like they'd um, they made some kind of alteration in me, but I don't know what it is.

Starting point is 01:45:38 And if I ask about that kind of stuff in too much detail, they just ignore me. That's so interesting. Now you said in the, with the bus thing you heard a voice in in your waking time, does that happen often when you, because you said mostly you communicate with them, what, while seriously? Yeah, yeah, I can, yeah, in waking time, and they can communicate with them as well, especially if I make an effort and I sit down somewhere where it's fairly quiet and then I project questions. And after a little while, normally someone will come and answer me. So it's like radio almost. Now if you ask you a dumb question, do they get pissed and be like, okay, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Do that? Because I could see us doing this and like XG be like, uh, hey, man, do you guys got like Corona over there? In's like in a weird way dog do you have Corona over there?

Starting point is 01:46:27 You normally drink Modello's there. What guy I should do you guys drink over there? Do you guys have like twoking and stuff? Okay. That's the same question. But it sounds like it's almost like a ham radio or something right. Someone has to kind of be there to pick up your signal and then or maybe they it's like it's like they received the message a voicemail and then they got to get back to you later when they have a minute it kind of like that well they're occupied well yeah maybe like I'll get

Starting point is 01:46:55 response to something a bit later but um but yeah yeah so yeah it can happen at any time at really. And warnings as well, like I said, before they warned me about things when I'm about to be. Another time I was just ripping up cardboard boxes. And they said, you are about to cry. And I was like, what were you to, I was like, what? I'm not in any danger. And I ripped the box open and there were staples in it and I tore up my thumb and I was like okay so and then another time when I was out running they said the same thing you are about to cry and so I stopped

Starting point is 01:47:29 and a cyclist like a mountain bike travel bike not not a motorbike but you know pushby flew past me that would have hit me I would have run straight out in the intersection into him and they said you are about to cry the language is so interesting I can see it it's th it it's it's it's th. it's th. it's th. it's th. it's th. it's th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the the the th. the th. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. tole. ty. I ty. I th. I th. th. th. the. the. I the same. I th. I the same. I the. straight out and the intersection into him and that's like you are about to cry. The language is so interesting that I can see it's almost like uh it's clear that it's not it's almost being translated right there their impulses like AI trying to talk. Uh-huh yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, and it doesn't get everything quite right. Do they fuck with the political system at all? all? Like did that... I'm like a good question. Good question. I don't think they I don't think they do too much unless they feel that they need to. I'm very sure that the people, the elites, the dudes behind the curtain as it were, you know, the people beyond elected governments and stuff, whatever, like you know,

Starting point is 01:48:20 you know, shadow governments, whatever, know that they exist and do take into account their presence in some of the decisions that they make. But I don't think they have much of a influence really, like, you know, like explicit, deliberate, but they are in charge in the sense that there's nothing on this earth that can stand up to them. Even any alleged back-engineered stuff that we have that's, you know, anti-grivity technology and things like that, that maybe, you know, black projects and these other we have, would not be anything compared to some of the junk they've got, particularly

Starting point is 01:49:05 the stuff that they brought here with them, the really advanced stuff. And they're warriors, you know, like they have their own military system, and their generals and things like that can be particularly cruel and vicious. I don't think any of our military would ever do anything to to try and to try and to them to their the their their their their their their their to their their their to to their their their to to that can be particularly cruel and vicious. I don't think any of our military would ever do anything to try and upset them in any way. Well, they'd be, they'd definitely try to seek, you know, forgiveness if they were on their bad side in any way. But, uh, I mean, that's the whole thing about operation, uh, high jump and we made deals with them. And then they would go go the their their their th their th th th th tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the to to to the toe toe toe the thean. thean. thean. th and then they would go into our force and Just do experiments on us So creepy so creepy so creepy so creepy Wow, man. Just well, I mean like obviously from your point of view, it's um super loving right that they they I mean, even though they did steal your DNA, but I mean, outside of that, it seems like they're loving creatures.

Starting point is 01:50:11 I just believe that there's also other entities out there that maybe don't operate in the same way with the same kind of, you know, don't hurt but just learn from us type of attitude in my humble opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well these guys as well come by rough. Like I said before, I believe that they have killed a lot of us. I mean, they sound nice. And the other ones are talking about anal probing and impregnating girls and stuff like that. You got lucky with who hit you up. Yeah, they'd be weird they try to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the theateateate thia thathea. thiole. thioluiole. thiol- thiolate thiolate thiatu thiatu thiatu. thiatu. thiaa. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. hit you up. Yeah they'd be weird they try to get you pregnant that'd be so weird. I just can't make it happen. Yeah they can try so how does they lock with me and something. Yeah there's nothing they can do. Hey dog dad you don't know

Starting point is 01:50:56 the technology they have. I'm surprised that's not a category I'm porn hub alien impregnation. He is Ryan Musgrave Evans. He has a wonderful book called Children of Orion finding the Crypto Terrestrials. Do you have a podcast or anything? No I'm got well I mean I've got my YouTube channel that I do like blogs on things like that. Do you ever talk to Tony Merkel? What's that? Have you ever talked to Tony Merkel? No. Oh, yeah, I should hook you guys up, man.

Starting point is 01:51:32 He's really big into all this. The confessional podcast. Yeah, it's so weird. I was just thinkinged me. It's crazy. Manifesting it. Manifesting. All right. What's his YouTube? It's Ryan, Musgrave Evans. Yes. All right. Well, make sure go below. Check out the links. The man is dropping knowledge. And I appreciate you, man, coming on. Ryan. We look forward to doing it again sometime. Yeah, that'd be sweet dudes. Thanks so much for having me. Anytime, all the time, brother. Open door policy. And make to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's the the the the the th. Ryan. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. Ryan, th. Ryan, th. Ryan, th. Ryan, th. Ryan, thi. Ryan, theuu. Ryan, thu. thu. Ryan, thu. thiu. the the the the the the the the the the th. Ryan, that'd be sweet dudes. Thanks so much for having me. Anytime all the time brother open door policy and make sure to check out. Do you you don't have a website? Do you have a website? No, just YouTube. Man, that's off the great.

Starting point is 01:52:14 We don't have that kind of stuff in Australia. We don't have websites. Have they gotten only fans out there? Yeah. Anyways, you guys are the best? Thank you guys. Again, go to Santerbly. th. We. We. We. We. We to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the the the to to the the the the the the th. We the the the the th. We the th. We don't the the the open. We don't open. We don't have open. We don't have open. We don't have open open open open open. We don't have open. We don't have the the the the the the the the the their. We don't have their. We don't have their. We don't have their. We don't have their. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We don't. We. We. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't have th. We don't have to to. We don't have to to to to open. We don't have to open. We don't have the the th. We don't have the thethank you guys tune in again go to Santerbly dot com check out all of my dates they're coming up I'm coming to Florida I'm coming to Texas come get weird we will talk to you soon take care everybody we go deep home boy Aaron open your mind drink from the fountain of knowledge there's lizard people everywhere that's that that's some the fans that's their that's that's that's that's that's th th th that's th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind.

Starting point is 01:52:52 Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind.

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