Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #607: The Chillicothe 6, The Hillbilly Highway And Ohio's Human Sex Trafficking Network with Steven Snider AKA Recluse

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Starting point is 00:02:57 Good. I want to thank everybody who came out to last night's Comedy Chaos packed show. Thank you guys. Last second, packed it out. We really do appreciate you. A lot of new dates up on the website. If you want to learn more about Timful Hat or see me live, just go to Sam Tripoli.com. All my dates are there. Saratoga Springs is September 30th, two shows. And then there should be a, oh yeah, here we go, Kansas City's up, grab those tickets,

Starting point is 00:03:26 and then we have two shows, Tim Fall Hat with Eddie Bravo, Xavier Guerrero, we're going to be at the Calusa Casino Resort on December 2nd, one show and then we're going to be doing two shows one night in Fresno, California. Just go to you again, one comedy night, that one swarm taking by combo if you'd like, but go check that out Sam Tripoli.com. All of my content is there. We'll get into that a little later, but let's get into it. This gentleman is an investigative reporter. I'm very excited to have a mom. Please welcome. Stephen Snyder. How are you brother? Doing well, sir. And thank you very much for having me on. Stephen, I appreciate you coming on our show. I'm looking forward to our discussion.

Starting point is 00:04:14 Stephen, for those who may not be familiar with you, can tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Well, I've been in the conspiracy racket for like over 10 years now. I started out as a blogger, VisaBod.com, Blog Spot, which kind of grew out of the whole synchromistic movement, especially Chris Knowles' stuff with The Secret Sun, which I always really dug a lot, and that's kind of the prism that I've always sort of looked at this stuff through. I got into podcasting around 2019 with the farm. I can find me, you know, with the farm podcast, Mock 2, it's on Apple, it's on Spotify. And I've also written a couple of books. One of them strange tales of the parapolitical with Frank Zero and then another one was

Starting point is 00:04:57 a special relationship, Trump Epstein and the Secret History of the Anglo-American establishment, which wrote all by myself. And yes, it's basically now been able to start doing this full-time. I wonder around the country go to lots of weird places and investigate all kinds of crazy stuff. So it's pretty great. I'm all in, one more time. Was the name of your podcast? It is the Farm Podcast and then you can find it now under M-M-A-C-H-H-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-S-S-S-S, th, th, th, th-S-S, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I th, I th, I the-S, I I I I I I I I I the-S-S-S, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-S-Sh-Sh-Sh-Sh-Sh-Sh-I-I-A-I-A-A-A-A-A-Skkkk, th-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-Skkkkkkkk, thh, th-A-A-A-A-A-2 that's M-A-C-H-I-I so yeah look it up under that. Okay and do you have a website? Yeah yeah yeah that's my blog vis-up view dot blog spot.com that's

Starting point is 00:05:35 VISUP v. IE.W. One word dot blog spot. All right make sure after we're done to email us those links so I conclude in the description so our fans can find you. So you also go by, first of all, I love it, paraplegical. I love that term. I've never heard it before. What exactly is it? Oh, really, really.

Starting point is 00:05:59 That was actually the term that Michael Aquino wanted to rename the Civic Action Branch, the Special Operations Forces after the Parapolitical Branch, which I think was a rather keen way of his to mock many people. But anyway, it was sort of like grew out of the 70s and 80s with people like Peter Dale Scott, James Marshall, I mean, Ross Belant, a lot of the kind of trailblazers who were trying to really apply this very academic type of research........ I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, the, or, the, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, a lot of the kind of trailblazers who were trying to really apply this very academic type of research, I mean, almost like scholarly historical research, to stuff that had typically been seeing as like conspiracy theories. I mean, this is sort of like where the whole concept of deep politics emerged from

Starting point is 00:06:39 was from a lot of the early parapolitical researchers, though it's been greatly debased in subsequent years to put it mildly. I love it. I love it. So you go by recluse. Who's recluse? That would be me. That's actually after the brown recluse spider. That came out of like an acid trip that I did with my metalhead brothers like many, many years ago. As my friend told me I turned into a giant spider before him, and he was like, you're like a spider with your hands and like everything, and I could brown recluse. And anyway, it kind of stuck.

Starting point is 00:07:14 So yeah, that was when I started blogging, kind of the name I went with, it seemed rather appropriate if you're going to do synchromisticism, when the name you got out of LSD. So I'm very much into all this so you were doing what kind of acid? I don't remember what kind of acid he was man I mean this would have been probably some of the last bit of what the Picard stuff or something like that it was around like 2001 or something like that if I remember correctly I mean actually the narliest trip ever had was on mushrooms though when I got to the University of Colorado Colorado Colorado...... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I was. I was. I'm. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was.. I. I was. I.. I. I.. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And. And, the. And, the. And. And, the. And. And, the. And. And. And, the. And. And. And. And actually the narliest trip ever had was on mushrooms though when I got to the University of Colorado or Colorado Springs.

Starting point is 00:07:46 I mean, it was like a pretty conventional trip for the most part, but towards the end, I go into the cafeteria and this is around midnight, like they opened it up for a midnight snack for the kids. And like, I walk in and it's like a smoke machine is in there and I see all the kids like, like a smoke, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like a the the the the all the kids like walking around you know amongst the aisles and they're these like seven foot aliens and I mean like gray aliens and I mean you know this is like the most livid you know the most lucid thing I've ever seen like they look you know like I mean there's no distinguishing them between the real people and like what I'm seeing there it's not even like a normal hallucination I've had well tripping I've I've I've the the the I've the the the the the the their I've their I've th I've th th th th th th th th th th th th thripped I've th th th th th th th th thr-I th thripped. thripped. I'm th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. I'm not th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their. I'm liked. I'm liked thin. I'm liked thin. I'm liked the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they're like like like like like the since where it was like, wow, this thing like literally looks like it's right there. And they're like a bunch of them just kind of like walking around amongst the crowd. So it's actually a big part of why I got into a lot of this stuff.

Starting point is 00:08:34 I respect that. I have a friend of mine that was recently out in the Denver area, was doing a lot of drugs out there. And he th th and he th, and he th, and he th, and he th, and he th, and he th, and he th, and he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, I was thi, I was thi, like, like, I was tha, I was tha, I was, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thauuuu. thauuu. thau. thau there. And he was telling me that he felt like Denver had like like a weird kind of vibe to it in the sense that he felt like, I don't know, I got the sense that he thought it was like, with shrooms and acid and all that stuff, kind of what they were doing in Hayd Ashberry when they were doing with the with the acid and the crystal math. It was like a kind of like a laboratory. Do you have any thoughts on that at all? I mean, it's kind of out of nowhere but I know it's like my friend was just talking about that.

Starting point is 00:09:15 He's very in tune. It's a buddy of mine a fair amount of time in Denver, even though I was living in Colorado Springs, but like, you know, for those of you haven't lived there, they're only like about an hour or something apart. And it's kind of interesting too, you've got like garden of the gods and no rad and a lot of other sort of interesting stuff like right. Of course, like the whole airport is there, but it's like, yeah, there's always been that weird kind of counterculture scene there. And I'm thinking specifically of like Boyd Rice, you know, I mean, I think he had that tiki bar in like downtown Denver for a lot of years.

Starting point is 00:09:55 I think at one point Tracy Twyman was like living there, Michael Aquino, it's been some time there, but there was sort of like that, like, likethat kind of darker side of the industrial metal scene and some of these other sort of like a cult groups around like the temple upset and the church of Satan and what have you that were like participating there so there was kind of like, that component to the counterculture. And I mean when a guy like, you know, you know, a kino is sort of like lurking around there. I mean, yeah, you got to sort a sort a sort a, what exactly were they trying to do with that? What were they kind of establishing there? It's interesting. You know, I've been talking to myself a lot lately because I tend to have the I love talking to myself to, man. Don't feel good. I have really great conversations. And one thing I've been talking about a lot is about how the enemy of nature is culture. Culture is the enemy of nature. Because culture, in

Starting point is 00:10:54 my humble opinion, I'd love to hear your opinion, is that culture seems to be more about pushing a style of thinking and living on a group of people, whether it is feminist culture, black culture, whatever it is, we'll even go white culture. I think there is a white culture out there, and we kind of think counterculture. To me, I think counterculture, when we look back on it from a MK Ultra intelligence prism, right? We, I think it becomes a fraud and a lot of it was manufactured, a lot of it did not happen naturally, or it was happening naturally on a smaller level. It was hijacked, amplified, and pushed groups into a certain kind of way.

Starting point is 00:11:45 And the more and more I study counterculture, the more and more I just think it's a bunch of people who are pissed at their dads and they're just trying to rally against it. And not that there aren't things. Like I think there's so much stuff out there that even if maybe it was started, let's say the internet, the internet was was started by DARPA, developed by DARPA, but a lot of amazing things that come for, blessings, this show, your show, I get to talk to you, all this stuff, but I do believe,

Starting point is 00:12:14 so that's the same thing with counterculture, but I do believe that culture is the enemy of nature. And do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that, that, I that, I that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that culture, that culture, that culture, that culture, that culture, that culture, that culture, that culture, that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. thi, th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. that's, th. th. the. thi, thi, thi, thi on that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, actually quite a bit. Well I mean yeah I think when you sort of fundamentally get to culture I mean it comes out of things like mythos and storytelling which is what shapes it and fundamentally this has always been a religious practice and I mean that's kind of embedded you know I mean for instance in like the phrase abracadabra thatthat's actually a Coptic word that means as I speak, I create. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, very much like historically

Starting point is 00:12:51 mythos and stories were a way to create reality. And this is something that a cultist have always known for many years. I mean, this was really sort of the basis of the Rasha crucion furver to give you an example. There was no no th, th, thu, thu, thu, thu-in, thu-in, thu-in, thu-in, thu-in, thu-in, thu-in, thu-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, thus, thu-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a, thu-a, thu-a, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th, th, thu, I, I, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thu, I'm, thu, thi-s, thui-s, thui-s. I'm, thui. I'm, thi. I'ma-si. I'ma-si. I'ma-s. I'm thi. I'm thi-a-a-a-ushan fervor, to give you an example. There was no Roshacrucian society when the manifestos appeared, but they essentially created the whole speculative Masonic movement in their aftermath, basically a quasi-Rashacrushion movement out of what was essentially alarmed. So this is how culture was manipulated for many years by esotericism and so forth. And it's something that people in the intelligence community are keenly aware of. In fact, again, Colonel Michael Aquino actually wrote a book about Roshaprushionism endorsing these very notions.

Starting point is 00:13:35 And interestingly enough to his concept, you had sort of different perspectives of reality, you had a consensus and subjective reality. I think in his notions, the consensus would be what you would be referring to as nature, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to to to to the to the the the the the the to the the the to the to the the the the, the, their their, theanitian, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tean, tean, tean, tean, tean, tean, their, their, their, their, their, theirthink in his notions, the consensus would be what you would be referring to as nature. This is sort of the physical world where there are laws that we can all agree to and how the universe is ordered, how nature is ordered, and that type of thing, this sort of Newtonian worldview. But then there's also this subjective reality that many groups over the years believe can be manipulated through archetypes in the forms of stories, in the forms of mythos and so forth and that can

Starting point is 00:14:11 fundamentally alter the physical world itself. Again whether or not that's possible is a obviously matter of debate, but these are definitely, I think very much concepts that have been inter her play with a lot of groups for many years now. So that's my answer to your question. No, and I love it. I think it totally aligns in what you said. And you know, because it can start as this kind of spiritual magic almost, and then these groups come through these, these intelligence communities. And to me, they're all extensions of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, thansans, thans, through these these intelligence communities and to me they're all extensions of

Starting point is 00:14:48 the Jesuit order, the Vatican. I think they're, you know, if you take a look at it, you know, this is my opinion, you take a look at all the known crime organizations. They all tend to have a Catholic background, Irish, Italian, Latin America, all that stuff. And then you have like, you know, the Nazis run into the Vatican, and I just think that there's a connection between the Jesuits. The Jesuits were some of the first intelligence agencies. And so, you know, there's a lot of magic, I think dark magic involved with the Vatican.

Starting point is 00:15:28 So it totally makes sense to me that over time, they would really solidify and make their manipulation of people, through culture very, very crystal clear in terms of that's just my belief. So let's get into some twilight language. What is twilight language? Well, it's kind of like what I was getting at before. I mean, in like the occult doctrine, this would be in theory, the language that God spoke to Adam in, and the garden of Eden.

Starting point is 00:16:02 But essentially it was a time in a lot of traditions where we communicated through telepathy, and it would have as such been a symbolic language. I think it's kind of like a precursor to sort of the notions of like the Union archetypes and that type of thing. So, so, so, one more time. So, what is it, symbol? What does it represent Twilight language?

Starting point is 00:16:27 Well, I mean, I think that it's a way essentially that you weaponize, I mean, a lot of mythos or stories and so forth, because you're playing into. Okay, Star Wars would be like a great example of this. Like, I mean, it's a series that's been trashed for a lot of year, or at least in the early days, for the lack of characterization, but that was nonsense because again, Lucas is working with archetypes and almost mythological concepts. I mean, Lucas, the hero with a thousand faces who's put onto his journey. Obi-1, Canobi is the wise old man. Vader is the shadow. Essentially, you're playing into a lot of these concepts that have existed in the human mind since, you know, time immortal practically, and you're bringing them into a fictional context.

Starting point is 00:17:10 So it's like, you know, you don't need even like conventional character development or something like that. In fact, in a lot of ways it's useless. These things need to be above human dynamics so that they can affect people on a very primal level. And that's, you know, to my mind mind, thiiiiii – thi – thi – thi – thi – thi – thi – thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, to a lot, to a lot, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th. th, th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, to thin, to to to to to to to to thin. to to to to to to thin, to thee. the. the. thi. thi. the. that's, you know, to my mind why something like Star Wars is so effective, or Lord of the Rings for that matter, a lot of really the popular fantasy series or science fiction ones, because I mean, they are working on that archetypical level. I mean, like, Dr. Who would be almost like a trickster figure, for example. And that, I think, is really the way that you reach people much more more, that you that you that you that I think is really the way that you reach people much more so than, you know, like these stuffy period pieces or these like big message movies and things of that nature.

Starting point is 00:17:49 I mean, science fiction to my mind has done far more, I mean, in terms of swaying people's politics and so forth than I mean, any number of high concept, you know, reality-based movies have over the years. I love that. I think that's very powerful. And I totally agree with everything that you're saying, that we've talked about on the show before, and I could be using the term wrong, but sigil magic almost through symbolism.

Starting point is 00:18:20 And I think storytelling is kind of preparing you for something that is coming up. So that you're so used to seeing it, you accept it, that when maybe it happens, it isn't a big shock to you. And it's brainwashing. We've seen that a lot in Hollywood over the decades. What I find an interest, and I love to ask your opinion on this, is that we've seen this, seeing Hollywood moving away from these traditional stories into this cultural Marxism, and it seems to be being rejected by the masses that, you know, they're not getting any of the numbers

Starting point is 00:19:00 because they're not traditional stories, and what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, I think very much so. And I mean, it's, you know, it's very evident when you look at like a lot of these genres that have been big money makers in the science fiction or fantasy jerns or like comic books, you know, I mean, again, and you know, alltraditions, these characters that we could relate to on a very subconscious level. And now you're trying to bring in just like a lot of these contemporary political issues that, I mean, people may or may not even care about in 20 years. I mean, that just in and of itself is like a formula for disaster.

Starting point is 00:19:42 And I mean, the fact that it's just being done so blatantly at this point, I mean, yeah, I think very much so. And yeah, just the returns are probably only going to get worse as we go forward. Didn't you see more of this just virtue signaling and this kind of stuff going on. Yeah, and it's just super interesting because they also, like, they don't want you to know if you're coming or going right so you have this lion this lady king coming out which is right there in itself is going against tradition lady king for through time the female patriarch or excuse me the my what's a matriarch the female matriarch of the royal family was the queen, has always been the queen.

Starting point is 00:20:29 Now you got Lady King, so that's being done interesting. Then you have the story, the actual story of this warrior, female warrior is actually the story of a woman who was part of a tribe that fought to keep slavery alive in Africa. Her tribe, that area, was making money off of selling slavery to whoever was buying slaves at that time. And then the actress comes out and she says, hey, if you don't support this film, you're a racist. They don't want, they don't want you to know if you're coming or going. And that's the whole thing. It's like nonlinear warfare. And my whole, the question becomes how long can they keep this going? Because it's not really about the money, because the money is just

Starting point is 00:21:18 all fed funny money that they get bailed out every couple of years by the Federal Reserve that they just use to cover their losses. But if nobody's watching it, can a spell be cast if nobody's hearing the spell? Well that's, I mean, a good question. I mean, obviously, I mean, I think in some ways, I mean, they can keep it going. I mean indefinitely because in a lot of ways Hollywood is just basically a front for money laundering. So, you can kind of get around the fact that the movies aren't making any freaking money. I mean, tax write-als, I mean, a lot of other stuff goes missing. Yeah, you know, well, but yeah, I mean, it's like, I definitely think that that's one of the things, though, that that thi........... thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you thi, you thi, you can, you can kind, you can kind, you can kind, you can kind, thi, their, their, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, the fact, they............ the, they. the, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the, th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You're, th. th. th. You, th culture at this point, whereas previously it was being used to create a culture that would unify the country

Starting point is 00:22:10 and bring it towards one direction or another that they were looking for, whereas now it's like, we're just trying to use it to like gas-like people and just do, just absurd stuff that I mean you don't really, like I was thinking of like the Ghostbusters movie, one that they did with the all-female one. It's like one of those things like, you know, okay, I don't think anybody would have objected to having like a 50-50 split with like women and men as ghostbusters in this day and age, but it's just like did anybody want make any sense. It's like you're just deliberately like throwing this out here to see how much like outrage you can generate, you know, I mean, and it's just, nobody even thought that this was an

Starting point is 00:22:53 issue in the first place. I mean, and the outrage, and it's not outrage, but to me, the fucked up part is that they make men look stupid. Not only are they not the main part of the movie is they make them look stupid like oh they he can't do that the dad's horrible It's just like a man thing and that was coming off the heels of like every commercial Being like dad can't wipe his butt what are we gonna do? Mom's got toilet paper. Thanks my you know, and it's just like and this goes back to pushing against these archetypes that we have had forever? it is about? It's? It's? It's th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is just like thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, like th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's just just just thi's just like, thi's just like, thi's just like, thi's just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi's just like, and this goes back to pushing against these archetypes that we have had forever. It is about destroying the father, so that, and destroying any power the dad has, and that's being done on purpose. I mean, we see what happens in the society when fathers aren't around.

Starting point is 00:23:41 Now, some people, dads leave, they become wonderful people. I'm not saying this is a set rule and I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm just saying as what we've seen from a far in our society is that when you break up the nuclear family and there's not two parents involved, that tends to lead to trouble and that's just what it is. And this is all part of this sorcery that I think is being done by sorcerers who run mankind. That's just my humble opinion and I think it's beyond interesting and but we'll see if they can keep it up. It just doesn't seem like it has any power anymore. And I think you're very, I think you brought up a good point that's done for maximum impact.

Starting point is 00:24:28 So we got this little mermaid who's now black and by itself it shouldn't be a big deal. People be like yeah, so what, this fictional character is black, who cares? Nobody cares, right? But it's in a long line of this kind of reimagining everything, including historical figures, like changing them from white to black. And that to me fits into the role of what cultural Marxism is, which is not allowing you to know your history, not allowing to know history, and what came before you so that every generation has to start from zero, instead of getting a running start by learning knowledge from the generation before them, be passed down from generation to generation to generation.

Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, but then they use emotion. Have you seen the video of them showing that commercial of the little mermaid toto other black little African little girls and they get all emotional and then it hurts it pulls on you when you're like oh I can see why it does it and then you watch the video and you don't even know where to stand no more you're like fuck because I watched the video and then you feel happy for the but she's like oh there's a black and you're like yes they're like yes they're like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th th th th they're like like like like like like like like like like like like they're like like like like like they're like like they're like like they're like they're like they're like they're like they're doing. 100%, Xavier. If you gave the same kid a chocolate bar too, they'd also be like, oh my God, yeah. And it's like, and it's like, there could be a million other characters made.

Starting point is 00:25:53 It's done on purpose to cause maximum impact. It's got cachet, it's got cultural resonance already and they want to twist those images and then. If that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the only those images and then the only time they do it, you're totally right, Xavier, chill the fuck out everybody, it's one character. But this is, this is five years of this going on on purpose to cause maximum chaos, flipping everything the other way. Yeah, well I mean I think and again, I mean if you're looking at it from like an a cold perspective, I mean I I think and again, I mean, if you're looking at it from like an occult perspective,

Starting point is 00:26:25 I mean, I think it's sort of like indicative of the colleague yoga and that kind of thing. I mean, because again, you are essentially invoking chaos. I mean, you're letting Saturn out of his proverbial cube. And now, I mean, you're going to see the end results of that. I mean, I kind of the only thing that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that think the only thing that we're really missing at this point is another phantom clown of lab. Should be up. Hey guys, I want to tell you a real quick a couple things. One, if you're looking for more free audio content, I got seven podcast for you.

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Starting point is 00:32:28 Um, and one of your trips through, where did you go through Hopewell? No, no, I went through Ohio, but I was looking at like a lot of the Hopewell sites with like the mounds and all that other good stuff. The that're left by some of the more mysterious Native American tribes in that region. Tell us a little bit about, because I, again, this gets into hidden history, what they don't want us to know. And I think it all leads to back to not letting you know how powerful you truly are. Well, yeah, I mean, I think very much, I mean, especially with like the, you know, the mounds that were set up by the Hopewellwell well well well well and this whole region in the Ohio Valley area, because essentially it's an elaborate grid system that was meant to bind like the heavens to the earth and it sort of plays into the whole sort of concept of the theology that was known in European ceremonial magic. But basically it's a whole

Starting point is 00:33:20 notion of soul play where the soul returns to the mil through the process of these mounds and so forth. And this was like a big thing to the Native Americans and later when I think a lot of the founding fathers who were quite obsessed with this stuff saw it they immediately understood the significance of this because it was playing into their own magical systems and consequently this is where I mean I think Ohio became so significant in the broader the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the of the of the of the of the of the of the of thi. thi. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi th. th. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi magical systems. And consequently, this is where, I mean, I think Ohio became so significant and the broader legacy of America. I mean, this is really the foundation of the American Empire. I mean, this was the first Western territory,

Starting point is 00:33:55 the Northwest Territory. This is where Manifest Destiny comes from. And then later, when we became a true imperial empire outside of North America, this comes in a time frame from about 1875 to 1920, were seven or eight at the US presidents were from Ohio, McKinley, Taft, I mean all of these guys were who brought the United States overseas into the Spanish-American war to annex Hawaii and started setting up the American Empire that we know today. And you know I think in the grand scheme of things when you look at the significance of the Ohio Valley

Starting point is 00:34:28 had to the peoples that came there as a sort of astromagical place combined with the fact you had these groups like the Society of Cincinnati with people who were very much aware of sacred geometry, alchemy, neo-pletism, and all this other kind of stuff. I have actually started to wonder, I mean, how much of this was a ritual, because I mean, you do see this ongoing significance of Ohio and so much of this insane stuff, I mean, going forward. I find it interesting. So, the Native Americans or the indigenous believe that these mounds would help send a deceased soul into

Starting point is 00:35:09 the next realm? Yeah, well they're mostly oriented towards like different stellar phenomena and so different stars or different us like the solstices and things of that nature. So I mean, yeah, it's a very like kind of intricate system and it would sort of be based on the whole concept of like lay lines and things of that nature as well. And I mean, it's just, you know, fascinating kind of getting into some of the more recent stuff that's been going on there. I mean, with US Route 23, I mean, that gruards right through the center of where these these mounds are. I mean, like the serpent mound and a lot of the major ones. And this is just a major hub for drug trafficking, for human trafficking. You've just got, I mean, tons of women who have been murdered brutally in this whole region and so forth. So, I mean, it's just, you know, this was like a major, like power

Starting point is 00:36:00 zone. And I mean, it's just being you know overwhelmed with I mean a lot of this just horrendous and brutal crime and you know it's remarkable in a lot of ways and not in a good way. We'll get into the all that stuff I want to ask you a couple things one is were there names for these ancient civilizations or tribes? And were they, are there any of them left in this area? I know there's indigenous, but are there any left around there? Well, yeah, I mean, it's like Hopewell and Adina were really, I mean, if we're being really honest about it, it's more of a reference to a religion than anything else. And again, it's really kind of fascinating because, I mean, you have the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the wo, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are their, are, are, are, are, are, their, are, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their religion than anything else. And again, it's really kind of fascinating

Starting point is 00:36:45 because I mean, you have the whole concept of the upper world, and this is prevalent in all the eastern woodland tribes, which fits in gently, we're all in this northwestern territory where all the mounds were. You've got the upper world where you've got the thman and stuff of that nature. You've got the underworld, the dominion of the horned serpent, and so forth, you've got Middle Earth where we're at. And then there is the whole concept of the other world, the evil earth and so forth.

Starting point is 00:37:14 And kind of interestingly, this is a realm that's invoked by chaos. It's usually personified by a trickster deity or a clown. So, there you go. Would you say... Lot to unpack there, dude. Lot to unpack there. You think this is Middle Earth? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like the realm of like humanity and so forth will re-exist in. And then there's sort of like the upper and the lower realm. And I mean, to put it sort of in context, like the underworld would be, the concept, the concept, the concept, the concept, the concept, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi of the abyss, if you will, it's usually like depicted as like this vast, black ocean, if you will. And then the other world would be sort of like the Kenneth Grant, you know, nightside tree of life thing.

Starting point is 00:37:52 And you sort of see that with a lot of the weird occult groups, like the baked ball out of Cincinnati. I mean, they were in contact with Kenneth Grant trying to summon all these lovedian deities and they're doing it in the same region as the Hopewell would set up the mounds and then in like Wisconsin, Michael Bertrio is going to the same area at Devil's Lake where they had mounds there to try to summon the deep ones more lovecraftian deities from these things. So it's just sort of fascinating. I mean how so many of these groups latched onto a lot of these regions and you've seen just a lot of this just you know really weird shit going on there. And then on the backdrop of you know serial killers popping up and you know Mothman and in Wisconsin I mean you've got were wolves and bad people and it's kind of like stranger things happening for some weird imagine is there a cryptic called bad people

Starting point is 00:38:43 because I am down. It sounds like Skidwaker Ranch over there. All fucking crazy shit popping up left and right. Oh yeah, well Utah is another one man. I mean again like when they told me about the you know ritual abuse thing like coming out especially in that county that it's in, oh my lord. I mean just that whole, I've been there a couple of times, man, and there is just some nasty stuff that goes on there. I mean, you go walking in those canyons just a little bit, you'll see, I mean, all these occult markings and stuff like that. It's another area, man, I mean, you actually get out there and to tour this stuff like the criminality, like what the human trafficking is with a lot of this ritualistic stuff and even you know just points on the earth and so forth. I find it very interesting that that Ohio is very powerful for mystic things for mystic reasons, for mystic reasons,

Starting point is 00:39:41 Alabama's like that as well and what I find interesting is that they're both kind of huge football programs as well. Like Alabama is where basically the real NASA is. Everyone goes to Houston like, oh, it's over there. Uh-uh, dude. It is in Alabama. That's where all the real stuff happens. God, dude. That's where all the real stuff happens. And now you have Ohio, Ohio and all the stuff the huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge the the the the the the the the the the the the huge huge huge huge huge huge huge the huge huge huge huge the huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge huge. the huge. the huge. the huge. the huge. the huge. the huge. the huge. the the huge. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the huge huge huge. the huge. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. huge, th. huge, th. huge, th. huge, the th. huge huge huge huge huge huge, huge huge huge, huge, That's where all the real stuff happens. God, dude. That's where all the real stuff happens. And now you have Ohio and all the stuff going on in Ohio.

Starting point is 00:40:10 And you're like, why, it just seems like a crazy region. Yeah. And I mean, well, also too, I mean, you've got like a lot of those big families that moved out there. I mean, there was a lot of, you know, one hand from the Society of Cincinnati people settled it, you got a lot of those, you know, kind of Yankee blue blood families, like the TAP family. They were from brain tree, Massachusetts, actually, originally. I mean, of course, they help set up skull and bones. They had one family members of president. And then you've got kind of like the new money like Carl Linder I think in the Linder family. I mean these were a big part these guys were a big part of um what's it's the same Michael Milken's network which tied in with Trump and Epstein and all this other stuff. So I mean just Cincinnati alone there are so many just insanely wealthy families in that little subsection there and then I mean you've also got like a lot of other stuff at Columbus and some of the other areas areas. th. ths. th th th th th areas th areas th areas th areas th areas th areas th areas th areas th areas th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th there. And then you've also got like a lot of other stuff at Colombo,

Starting point is 00:41:05 Columbus, some of the other areas, man. I mean, it's just nuts. It is nuts. It is crazy. And they're just, you know, you bring up Utah. You know, we have a big following in Salt Lake, wonderful people. We love going there, but again, we hear all these stories of child sex trafficking and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:41:30 And I'm not just pointing that Utah is the only play. I think anywhere where you have a power dynamic, a pyramid, there is the use of like dark arts and in particular pedophilia for both, both as kind of like a ritual to be accepted into the group and and blackmail. Yeah, and I mean it's like with Ohio, I mean it's like so much stuff comes together as well because I mean it has historically been a major hub of trafficking you know going back to like prohibition because again another thing you got to sort of understand about like Ohio A I mean you've got the Ohio River running through it so that was historically a big way of smuggling but also I mean most of the major like cities in the East Coast

Starting point is 00:42:19 and like the Midwest you know Detroit Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Chicago, New York, Boston. I mean, a lot of these places are only about six or seven hours from like Ohio. So it was a major cross-section for a lot of these different regions. And I kind of think for that reason alone, too, it also became a major gambling hub. Now, the gambling was mostly Newport, Kentucky, which was like right across the border, but it was always overseen by the Cleveland mob, Moedollett's and all those people, and these were the same guys that were eventually taken out to run Las Vegas when it was set up. But like in the

Starting point is 00:42:59 years prior to the Cold War, I mean, like Ohio was really also like the major hub for like organized gambling that the mob was like the border border border border border to to to to to to the to the to to the the the to the to the the to the to to the the to be the to be to be the the to be to be to be to be to be to be cauauauauauauauaubleaubleaugh.augh. to be over over over over over over over over over over over over over over. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thauauauauau.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au. Iau. Ia War. I mean, like, Ohio was really also like the major hub for, like, organized gambling that the mob was like running as well. So, there was just like historically this huge legacy of trafficking that went on through this whole region, combined with the fact that you've got like kind of the sacred, you know, Indian mounds there, you've got these cold orders, like, scald and bones in society of Cincinnati that have like all these occult orders like Scaldon Bones, the Society of Cincinnati, that have like all these connections to it. I mean, it's really a perfect storm in a lot of ways. I mean, how often do we get people to come on here talking about how often Native American women go missing? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and it sounds like these states are full. It's like, I'm pretty sure they got a bigger population than other states about with Native Americans. Yeah, well, I mean, in just a minority communities. And I mean, you know, again, I would recommend people watch the Great Joe Burlinger

Starting point is 00:43:50 docket series going to missing women of Ohio. I mean, it's just, it's sickening to see just how epidemic human trafficking is there and just how much women are so much played on from these minority communities, from these impoverished, poor communities and so forth. Because, I mean, you know, most of this, you know, whole region was really devastated by the rust belt or, you know, by the lack of manufacturing jobs moving out and so forth that turned it into the rust belt. I mean, as a result of that, I mean, you had, A, the opioid epidemic breaking out and then B consequently that led to just so many victims among children and women there.

Starting point is 00:44:28 I mean, the most vulnerable aspects of society who are, you know, brought into trafficking. It's just, it's terrible. It really is. And when you see how, I mean, thoroughly it's been documented and the fact that there's almost nothing done about it, It's really horrifying. It really is horrifying and it's crazy because I personally think that that because there's no, for the longest time there was no awareness of what was going on because again the information highway was controlled by a small group of people.

Starting point is 00:45:05 And then they were able to manipulate us because, listen, let's face it, the most of your population is naive. They believe, because they're good people, that the people who seek power are good people as well. And they fall for it because it actually takes work to sit there and listen to what's being said, research it and and, and, uh, and, uh, and, and, uh, and, listen, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, let, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th sit there and listen to what's being said, research it, and and basically see how that plays against what's already happened in history. And people don't want to do that. People just want to work all day harder than they've ever had the work before for less money than we made in the past. And then come home, turn on an hour of the news and be like, I'm in for I'm, I'm in, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and the like, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and thi, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, and thin, and thi, and they they they they they they they're they're that, and they're that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and thi, and thin, harder than they've ever had to work before, for less money than we made in the past, and then come home, turn on an hour of the news,

Starting point is 00:45:48 and be like, I'm informed, and then move on. Yeah. That's what they want to do. They don't actually want to know what's going on. They want to know what the collective wants to believe. And I understand that to a tho tho tho the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their I used to be like that. But man, when you really start to understand what is going on. And you know, there's this whole thing in Hollywood right now where it's like they've had this Me Too movement, where white female actresses have completely and utterly destroyed

Starting point is 00:46:20 the dynamic between men and women in Hollywood. They have weaponized it for their own gain, because most of them don't know the difference between men and women in Hollywood. They have weaponized it for their own gain because most of them don't know the difference between fame and infamy and they think it's the same thing. But what they, none of those people get upset about is child abuse, child sex abuse. And the reason is, is because child children who have abused cannot get people can't ban together to take down these fucking predators. So there's nothing politically to gain from it. So they just let it go. So we'll have a girl who got like, who on-sat, heard a bad joke,

Starting point is 00:47:04 and we rally behind her, or this dumb, excuse my language, bitch, who called out Norm McDonald after he died and everyone's like you're so brave. There's nothing brave about that. Calling out a dead man who can't defend himself, making accusations. Oh, you're so brave. Nobody says anything about children to get hurt. Very rarely. And I'm not talking 17-year-olds, which is wrong. I'm talking about really young, young kids. Like pre-teens.

Starting point is 00:47:34 Nobody says anything. Because they can't form a coalition to cancel somebody. And they can't beat up anybody that comes at them. So you have people cry about racism while openly laughing at pedophilia jokes. It's just crazy. Well, I mean, even then it just seems like there's nothing, you know, again, really done about any of this stuff in the real world. I mean, you know, you're, I don't know, like trying to go back and like revisit the racism implicit in like HP Lovecraft's work or something like th......... th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, th. thi. thi. thi. to to to tol. tol. tol. tol. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. toe. toe. toe. to toe like trying to go back and like revisit the racism implicit in like HP Lovecraft's work or something like that.

Starting point is 00:48:07 And then, you know, again, like I'm kind of talking about like with this situation where I, you have like minority communities that are being openly preyed on about this. You have activists in these regions that are like trying to do something about it and they're like literally turning up dead from what were probably hot shots and things like that. And what do you mean by hot shots? Well that's like when you deliberately give somebody a dose of heroin or something to that effect that you know is going to induce an overdose. Like see that was the thing with the Chillicothe six several the women were actually murdered via hot shots. Okay, okay, let's get into that. This is, this is, this is, this is it, man. So, but I mean, it's just, you know, again, like, where is the outrage?

Starting point is 00:48:51 I mean, Joe, and again, this is something Joe Burlinger, this is the guy who made the docucires, or the documentaries in the West Memphis three, the Paradise Loves movies, and it You've got, you know, African American women activists even who are just being treated in these just horrendous fashions or being murdered and prayed upon. And I mean, where, shouldn't people be more pissed off about this? No, I'm totally with you. And where's BLM with all that? Where's all that? You know, it's just like it's really happening out there. And nobody wants to say anything. Nobody wants to say anything, because we're all too worried about Joe Biden and, and you know, all the COVID's over, it's not over and all. And that did affect people, I understand that.

Starting point is 00:49:35 But there's a real shit going on in your community that nobody's paying attention to. And you know, we have Alex Stein who's doing a great job out there getting in Dan Crenshaw's grill, that one-eyed John McCain, okay, and calling them out about supporting the Ukraine while not doing stuff about cities that don't have clean water in the United States, and every, and the left getting mad at this. This is what needs to happen. We need to start putting these politicians feet to the fireman. We need to start question, no, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the, the, the, the to, the the the the their, their, their, the the the the their, their, they. I I, they, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. I I I I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I-i. I-I. thi. thi. thi. th. th. the-I. th. thean. th. thooooooooo-I.ean-I.ean-I.ean-I.ean-I.ean-I.e.e. I-I. politicians feet to the fireman. We need to start questioning. Now, I'm not the, oh, we got to get rid of everything, anarchy and all that stuff, even though I'm an anarchist.

Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm not calling for anything, I'm just calling for accountability, man. We need people to be held accountable. You're coming after our children. These doctors who are performing these sex changes on children should be thrown in fucking jail, okay? It's ridiculous. Anyways, I don't know if you want to get into any of that recluse, but I want to ask you something.

Starting point is 00:50:34 So Ohio, we got the whole human trafficking network, the connection, Epstein, Lex Wexner. Let's get into thatthat because I was just in Columbus playing the Columbus Funny Bone and they have the biggest, what's it called, what's a Victoria's Secrets store I've ever seen in my life. It's like two floors, it's humongous. What were you doing in there, Sam? What? What were you doing in there? I walked by it, but believe me, I used to want to go find the 32 double D's and just hang out and watch unicorns run by. Well again, this is like something where, you know, I mean, Joe Bollinger, when he was like

Starting point is 00:51:16 investigating this, Angela Clemente, one of the investigators he hired had done a foyer request with the FBI's investigation was ongoing because they had heard allegations that this attorney based out of Newport, Portsmouth, excuse me, Portsmouth, Ohio, which is right there at the border with Kentucky, a Mike McLaren, I think, had connections to Epstein. I mean, this was like a major figure in a lot of this, you know, trafficking that was going on in this whole region and all throughout the US 23. And the FBI has been stonewalling these requests essentially for six years now, even though it seems like there were some incredible accounts from some of the women in the area

Starting point is 00:51:57 that there might have been a connection to the. I mean, their their their their this. I mean, again, you know, certainly Columbus is like right in, you know, that whole vicinity. I mean, Epstein was known to stay out of, I think, one of Lex Westerner's properties there for a lot of years. Again, just given how destitute this whole region was, it would have been a, you know, it would have been a compelling place to recruit women from, the kind of stuff that tho' thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toxxxxxxxxinin. toeeeanananan. toean. toean. toeanan. toeananananannenenenenexxxxin. toeexxin. toea. toea's the possibility that cannot be discounted, especially with how epidemic human trafficking is in that whole area. How much research have you done into Epstein? I mean a little bit here and there. I mean I still haven't really gotten to crunch into like the inner depths of his network. I mainly have looked at a lot of like the back drop was like some of the historical figures and what have you. But like what was your question exactly? Well my question is like why why him? What about him?

Starting point is 00:52:51 Something happened in college where he he tested out to be the perfect guy that they want they either knew that he was a sexual pervert, uh, egomaniac something like that becausethey want, they either knew that he was a sexual pervert, egomaniac, something like that, because he drops out school, he gets a job at William Barr's father's school. Why him? Have you ever found that out? Well, I think it goes a lot deeper than that, Sam. I mean, you have to sort of remember that, among other things, Epstein was a gifted kid. And the gifted program was initiated by a guy called Louis Termin out of Stanford University. And this is basically a full-blown eugenics program that's been run in the United States

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Starting point is 00:54:10 So Epstein was flagged initially for a whole part of, you know, because of his IQ most likely in other factors with this gifted program, which means that early on somebody saw talent in it. And then the connection to Barr is especially interesting because Barr was also a guy who was involved in the early gifted program. And prior to his time at Dalton, he was there at Columbus University, I believe, the really big one there in New York, which was where they had a really interesting gifted program going on at the 50s. It was the one that was being run by William Sheldon who, he was the one with those psychological profiles

Starting point is 00:54:48 like xenomorph and all that other kind of crap that was later taken into like athletics and at the same time he was being assisted in this by a guy called Walter Breen who subsequently became the husband of Marian Zimmer Bradley and I was convicted of pedophilia raping his own daughter nonetheless other things. This was th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, he was th, thi, he was also thi, thi, he was also thi, he was also thi, he was also thi, he was also the thi, he was also the thi, he was also the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was thi, he was also thi, he was also thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolioliologeologe of thi-c-c-c-u-s, thiolioliolioliolioliologe, thioliologe, thiologe, thiolophilia, raping his own daughter and nonetheless other things. This was also supposedly the program that Jack Sarfati, the quantum physicist, was in and this sort of place and all the Wu Wu stuff with the nine and what have you. You know, Sarfati claimed that he was contacted, I think, by mechanical voices that told him to go to this program.

Starting point is 00:55:25 But this was like the one that Barr kind of came out of, and you already had a guy like Walter Green, who then ended up going out to freaking San Francisco. He goes around Berkeley, and then he sets up his own sort of like eugenics program, or he's trying to recruit people from Menza and so forth to pair them up and produce children. So to make a long story short, yes, I think Epstein was selected because he was very much a part of this eugenics program. And if you've really looked at the history of the gifted program, you will note that one of the major people that Terman picked to start out the program with would subsequently have a son who became a senior figure in the military and has been linked to psychological warfare

Starting point is 00:56:12 and child abuse for decades. So incredible. That's incredible. These gifted programs are basically just trying to find, you know, madmen, like evil geniuses, like Lex Luther out there. Well, yeah, there have been a fair, like Amy Bishop, the people rehearsing Chris Nolz, went to school. She was gifted. I take was insiking the Unabomber was, I think, one of that. I mean, see, this is sort of like the interesting thing about the gifted program because you're looking for high IQ individuals who you know on the one hand you need to sort of run society but also you need to keep an eye on because these are the same people that it could theoretically cause issues so I think this is why you see a lot of them you know eventually sort of driven insane and triggered

Starting point is 00:57:01 for stuff like the you know you know bomber stuff like that. Do you think this starts like an elementary? Because I remember being separated in class. So they're like, hey, these are the smart IQ kids. And then they go to a different hole. So since elementary, they're picking these. Yeah, that was when I said. I think it was like second grade I was taken to a special school and they gave me like these weird tests and stuff like that. I didn't get asked. I they just... Why flung first grade? No, but I mean I took the test and they just put me in the other school. I think they didn't ask me if I wanted to go in the other school. I had to... Well, we just played chess the whole time. That's all we did. See and the thing. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thing. th. I. I. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I've, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, I, I. I. I. Why. Why. Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why. I. Why. Why. Why. Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I know like my mates at the Penny Royal podcast.

Starting point is 00:57:45 This is another weird thing too that I've sort of noticed since I really started to develop more of a following. I almost always end up getting sought out by fellow gifted kids. Like, I mean, almost everybody that does like the Penny Royal stuff. I mean, as a gifted kid for some. Penny Royal? Penryl. What was that? That was like, it kind of grew out of the whole Helier thing, but I mean, it's a podcast that investigates all the weird drawings on and Somerset with the colds, like a lot of

Starting point is 00:58:09 the weird stuff there. Nice. Shout up, Pennyroll podcast. Yeah, yeah, I mean, those guys are great. But I mean, you know, again, they had them going to this weird school where they were reading a lot of this classical literature and specifically it was, I know one of the text was the one where they got the deus thou wilt from with the Abbey and what have you.

Starting point is 00:58:32 Do you guys know what I'm talking about? It was like, like the 16th or 17th century. So I mean I know Kristen Ezerbee had done like the whole thing on project bright with computers. I mean in this case like in the 80s, you know, they were using some of the early Apple stuff with the gifted kids to kind of train the algorithms for eventually that became AI research. Oh no, I do remember being put on Apple computers. Those old Apple 2s, yeah, and doing a lot of. See-through ones, the ones that were see-through?

Starting point is 00:59:11 No, way earlier than that. No, you were helping design like the AI that's eventually. Congratulations, Johnny. You've been slave the humanity. Good job on that. We were all helping educated, brother. I like how we have two smart people and two not smart people. That's not true. That is very true. That is very true.

Starting point is 00:59:35 That is very true. Xavier's smart. So Lex Wessner, it's very interesting that nothing's happened to Lex Wester. And, you know, I just want to say it's real quick. One thing I've talked about on the show th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. nothing's happened to Lex Wester. And you know, I just want to say it's real quick. One thing I've talked about on this show is that I think we live in a haunted house. This whole, where we live is a haunted house. Some places are more haunted than others. But I think some are also haunted, but they're not obviously haunted. Right. but they're not obviously haunted, right? Like, there's evil lurking,

Starting point is 01:00:06 but it's kind of hidden behind this kind of like, you know, this kind of like, oh, Pleasantville kind of look, right? Like, and that sounds like Ohio. Ohio's a great state. I'm not anti-Ohiohial or Utah at all, but there is some craziness going on. Yeah, I mean, there is that kind of very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, but there are there is some craziness going on. Yeah, I mean there is that kind of very much like Twin Peaks component to it, but I

Starting point is 01:00:30 mean it kind of seems like that's usually like kind of the tell like the more wholesome the place is it sort of seems like the weirder. I mean a lot of the stuff is going on underneath the surface, you know. But yeah, I mean, again, it just doesn't surprise me that you see so many of these people driven out there because I mean, hey, there's just, you know, the isolation. I mean, you know, you can get away with so much out there in this kind of region. You have sort of like the mystical significance of it. I mean, it's been there. I mean, since even before the colonist showed up. And I mean, the thing thing that we haven't even talked about, but kind of bring it together with the archetypes, I mean, it's even like some of the people there are themselves.

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Starting point is 01:02:30 They're doing the same kind of criminality activity. They kill the whole family. They come back. I mean, it's just really amazing on some levels and just the way that you can see how so much of this stuff I mean still affects us on an archetypical level and I mean how much of this is just you know a drama that we've all been playing out time and time again in different forms man. It is crazy man.

Starting point is 01:02:55 I didn't I didn't even know that. So like what I like it's so because when we think of weed we're just like you know lots of fire and peace and love, my brothers. Right. And like, I think they're, you know, we saw that doc and they say it's exaggerated, but murder mountain about all the weed stuff going on in there. The story about how, like, you know, hunting Bigfoot were basically told a story. Uh, to this tweaker that they knew would tell everybody that Bigfoot killed

Starting point is 01:03:26 them and it was really like they killed these Mexicans that were coming to kill this elderly weed growing family. And so it's like crazy, like wherever there's money and power, there is violence. And weed is no different, and you know, I just saw a doctor today on Twitter talking about how like they're starting to see schizophrenia popping up in kids who start smoking weed really early. And I've said this before man. I mean, I'm old school dude. I've been, my friends all had to buy weed and bags and then do lawn maintenance to get

Starting point is 01:04:05 rid of the seeds and the stems because there's so much garbage in there, right? And it wasn't very powerful weed. This new shit is crazy. And I know a lot of people who smoke a lot of weed, man, and I'm being honest with you, there's a lot of bipolarness going on there. They go zero to angry very quickly, man. And you have to kind of like, you know, you kind of got to be an animal trainer with them.

Starting point is 01:04:30 You got to kind of take it easy and learn levels to pull and buttons to punch to get certain reactions all the time. And I've seen it happen. I've been talking about it for a long time. But now that this new study study study study study study study new new new new new new new new new new new this new th new this new th new th new th new th new this new th new th new thuuuu thus this new thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus now that this new study comes out, I just say, always be wary if something is everywhere all the time, suddenly all at once. I mean, and it's, and it definitely is the weed because it's high, but I mean, at your show, you saw what a dab is, that is what I think can fuck you up. It's like 90% THC. If you've never done it,

Starting point is 01:05:02 it can instantly like, it's intact. I'm not like, I think you should know. I mean, I participate in that. I mean, I for D regulation, D, I think drugs should be legal. But this is, but this is a giant experiment because we, we haven't yet had a generation that's been exposed chronically to this level of THC. And all the other, know canavinoids and and other chemicals and substances and and pot you know I mean like I mean nobody knows what's at the end of this a lifetime of use well you know at

Starting point is 01:05:33 this level we're gonna find out here when when these when these guys start to get older that grew up with like medical grade pot the only good thing about about this that I've heard is that the kids aren't doing it as much because it's not seen as a forbidden fruit no more. Yeah, the younger, younger kids because they're looking at kind of like liquor. That's kind of what I've heard up too. I mean, I'm actually like more kind of, that's like sort of the thing that worries me because want to understand, I mean, like a lot of the younger kids have a lot.... their like that, which I mean I think has some other issues.

Starting point is 01:06:06 I mean I almost like sort of feel like in some ways by like decriminalizing weed, you know, you're kind of like almost making it boring so that I mean some people will start experimenting with some of this other crazy or stuff. Oh interesting. So legalize it all then. It all becomes boring right. Well I mean, I'm worked in Portugal, dude. Unitive point of view, like, I don't think you should be in jail because you did drugs. Yeah, decriminal. It doesn't make any sense. But what do you get? Well, how's that worked? I mean, what is it? Are you saying fines? Because then if they don't pay the fines, like, if you're high on meth and you're just doing something crazy on the street, that's a different crime. If you're at home doing drugs,

Starting point is 01:06:50 and not bothering anybody, or even if you're driving somewhere with drugs, unless you're committing a crime, like, like robbing a bank or something like that or crash your car, I don't, why should you be going to jail for having drugs on you? Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th th th th th th th th th th th th thridden, you're thridden, you're to to to to to to to to to thrown a to to thoing something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to th to to to to to to to to to to thi to to thi, to thi, to to thr-a going to jail for having drugs on you? Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't imprison somebody for just being an alcoholic. I mean, you know, you imprison them if they commit a crime while they're drunk, but I mean, not for just being an alcoholic.

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Starting point is 01:07:52 about it and what have you. You got some lots of country stuff, Steve Earl and Dwight You boom and all that other stuff. But again, more recently, it has become the major hub of human trafficking and drug trafficking. It's like one of the major routes because it goes through so many isolated regions in its way to big cities. So it's kind of ideal for that. And it got so epidemic that they had to come up with this, what was it, US, 23 major crimes task force combining together a lot of these law enforcement agencies. And getting into like what you guys were saying, their in this task force that I think by like 2014

Starting point is 01:08:29 they had to bring in like the FBI to run it because I mean it was just so corrupted by that point but I mean that was again a major issue that they were having with like all the stuff with like you know the crime alarm 23 because the police were so much involved in all of this I mean and and it got even worse the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. th. thi thi thi. thi. tas. tas. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tasks. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. the the the the the the the tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tasks. tas. tasks. tas. tasthe police were so much involved in all of this. I mean, and they got even worse with like, okay, the Chilicophi 6, like the women. Okay, real quick, you've referenced that, Kaputon. Tell us a little bit about that case. The Chilocathy 6 were six women who had disappeared around Chilocathe, Ohio.

Starting point is 01:09:01 I think between the years 2012 and 2014, four of them subsequently turned up dead. I believe two of them are still missing. And then there were several other women who had disappeared in Columbus and Portsmouth nearby that were kind of in the same milieu. And the thing about all of these women that I was just going to say that really unites them is virtually all them seemed to have been police informants. Okay, in fact one of the women who disappeared in Portsmouth had meticulous records that she had kept all of her drug and prostitution transactions. She had the phone number of this Mike McLaren guy like all of these other cops and stuff like that. Okay so she turned up dead I think possibly from a hot shot in that case. Her sister got like all this stuff and th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi think, possibly from a hot shot in that case. Her sister got like all this stuff, and then also she took like the last brawl that she

Starting point is 01:09:52 had and put it in the freezer because it had like some of her DNA on it in case her body was found so they could run tests and stuff like that. So yeah, maybe they didn't find Megan's body. their sister subsequently then turned up dead herself. You're living dangerous if you're freezing DNA. But yeah, and this is just like, you know, again, it's like, there's so much evidence that the cops were like directly involved in all of this stuff, man. I mean, it's just nuts. And that's like where, you know, again, it just gets so hard for anything to be done in that specific region because it's so evident that, I mean, law enforcement seems to be who is actually behind a lot of this trafficking and what have you.

Starting point is 01:10:30 And again, when you look at the presence of Wexner of Epstein right there in Columbus, and the fact that it looks like a lot of mean, it's, you know, it's a very unsettling picture. Now, do you, do you think that they were working in a sense of like, they were just telling like who Johns were, like, hey, this guy hired me or, or this cop is banging hookers, or, did you do any research into that? I haven't looked into it too much, and I mean, certainly it would be hard to discern to discern to discern to discern to discern to discern to be hard to be hard to be hard, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to be hard, like, to be hard, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to be to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to.a, to.a, to. And, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to.a.a.a.a.a.a. to would be hard to discern from like a lot of the women outside of Megan Lancaster because Megan was keeping like really really meticulous notes of this kind of stuff but yeah I mean it could definitely be for blackmail purposes because I mean she was sleeping with some cops you know with some very prominent you know local

Starting point is 01:11:17 politicians and what have you so I mean you get into this element as well I mean the cops are running a lot of these women as informants. Well, I mean, they're starting to see. I mean, the VIPs and stuff that they're potentially servicing and all that other kind of stuff. So once again, I mean, this opens up a lot of opportunities for law enforcement to make money on the side. I mean, and doesn't it run through Florida? Yeah, it goes down to Jackson Express. Yeah, it sounds like. th. It. It. It. It. It. It. It th, it. It th, it. It th, it. It th, it. It th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I tip. I tips. tips. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the yeah, it goes down to Jacksonville. Yeah, that sounds like it has to do with the Oxy Express. Yeah, it does, it does, it does. A lot of hillmills, yeah. Well it also goes through a big chunk of Georgia. I mean that's just another state where I mean human trafficking. I mean I was just talking to one my friends about all the stuff that goes on in Athens, Georgia which again is like right along this route. Asheville, Kentucky, or Ashland, Kentucky is another one that it goes through. I mean, it's just remarkable when you look at 123 and all the areas that goes through. And you just keep seeing again, opioids, human trafficking, lots of children disappearing.

Starting point is 01:12:17 It's not a good thing. If you have a power football program, I'm assuming there's some shady shit going around it where you are because you just mentioned Georgia. I remember thinking, oh man, I wonder if the Georgia Bulldog guys, bam! All of some we're in the Georgia now too. So it's kind of crazy. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, you bring that up with the football programs. But again, I mean, again, knowing what we know about like Sadeski and I mean, all the stuff that was going to state. I mean, you got to wonder. Because I mean, yeah, this is like the same region of the country. I mean, once again, that's like what Western Pennsylvania, I mean, that's right next to Ohio.

Starting point is 01:12:55 So yeah. I mean, we have, Ohio State involved all involved with some really dark, dark, dark stuff when it comes to children. Absolutely, and I mean I could definitely see that too in Georgia because again you know the the football programs there and just the athletic programs in general just so big for the African-American communities because there's so much poverty there among them and that's, I mean, really that's been the big way for most African Americans to get to college in the first place to do the athletic programs, but I mean, in there, it's even a bigger

Starting point is 01:13:34 deal. And I mean, you know, subsequently you've got stuff like the Atlanta child murders. I mean, we already know about that kind of insane shit. So, I, you know, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, that's, that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, that's. that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's insane shit. So, just, you know, I've spoken to several people who have investigated stuff on site in that whole area. And I mean, there are terrible things done in that area. Let's just put it mildly. And yeah, I mean, I definitely think that the athletic programs, I mean, are a way that this is used to cover it up because, I mean, God only knows, I mean, how many people have athletic scholarships and what have you held over their heads to keep silent? Yeah, I mean, for sure.

Starting point is 01:14:15 So, the Route 23 goes all the way from Ohio, all the way down to all these major states, where there's a lot. He goes all the way up to Michigan actually. I think it actually goes me all the way up to like the Canadian board. Don't say, oh, that starts bringing Peter Nagar in there. Is that how you say his last name? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that goes all the way to Canada. That's all, that soundstheory that when somebody gets old and there's no more use for them,

Starting point is 01:14:46 they kind of throw them under the train and be like, look, we're battling this stuff. We have this guy. You know, you have Jeffrey Epstein who's much older. You have, you don't have Peter Nygaar that's older. And maybe, Jizzi. Lex Wexner's oldest stuff too. They they represent and the older guard that they're kind of like we got to get rid of this older guard let's throw somebody under the bus so we they

Starting point is 01:15:17 think we're doing something we got this new person coming up that's running the show on the side you got any thoughts on that? yeah I mean I do think periodically you know I mean you do these these these these these these these these these these these these these th these these th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Next. th. Next th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. they they the show on the side. Do you got any thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, I do think periodically, you know, I mean, you do, you know, if these guys already know they're dying or something like that, I mean, or, you know, if they've outlived their usefulness, I mean, obviously Epstein was a guy who in the sense that he was born into some of these more exclusive families. I mean, it's debatable how much of his, you know, actual money belonged to him. I mean, or whether it had been earned, you know, for other people, there's some of the activities

Starting point is 01:15:53 that he was involved with. So, I mean, I do think that kind of seems though like again, this stuff never really ends regardless. I mean, of who gets thrown under the boss. I mean, Sam, now that you say that, you know that happened during a chapels case, the mile has a son, that's an American citizen. He let himself get caught up and the FBI he'd snitch on a chopo so he can get an easy deal and then when he's clear what do you think is gonna go back to doing you think he's gonna be working at McDonald's? No he's he snitching on the chopper they gave

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Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah, it was actually that Neil Fills, I think, or something like that, the guy that was killed in Charleston, West Virginia by a prostitute that he was actually try to try but he had killed several women along various interstates. And there's actually been some attempts to link him to like other murders too. There was a lot of speculation that he was the I-70 killer as well. So yeah, it kind of seems like, you know, and again, I've started to wonder about this more and more and more. It does seem like in the case of some of these serial killers, I mean, this might have been, you know, even more of a mythos that was built up to cover up some of this, you know, child trafficking and some of the other stuff that, you know, I mean, went on with it. I mean, we kind of saw hints of that with things like Mark Detro and what have you in Belgium. Where I mean, again, whether or not he was actually, I, I, I, I, I, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I was actually, I'm, a serial killer per se, as we would generally understand it as debatable. I mean, it seems more likely that he was procuring kids and for people for certain activities

Starting point is 01:18:30 that he was also engaging in. And, you know, you got to kind of wonder, you know, I mean, how much of what some of these other serial killers were doing was related to things like that. I mean, like a guy like, you know, Ted Bunny, for instance. I mean, he's going around to a lot of these universities that were like Washington State, or the University of Washington, rather, that were linked to a lot of like M.K. Ultra kind of research. He briefly actually converted to Mormonism in Melbourne. Yeah, I think Brigham University there for a while. So I mean, you know, again, this is just kind of interesting because again, this is a whole area where, you know, trafficking is epidemic. I mean, with a lot of the fundamentalist Mormon sex and got a guy like Ted Bundy, like sort of wandering around there. So, I mean, again, you know, what is this exactly going on? Is he just a serial killer? Is there some other component to all of this? Drugs, MK Ultra, that's a really big deal.

Starting point is 01:19:25 That's a really big deal, like the notion of serial killers and what role intelligence communities haven't with them and are they pawns being used? Are they getting blamed for murders that maybe they didn't commit that were committed by, you know, controlled opposition, agent provocateurs, and then meant to seem like serial killers so everybody's really afraid to go outside, you're demanding more law enforcement, all that stuff. That plays into all of that. I mean, the Charles Manson thing is the greatest example of how like the intelligence communities

Starting point is 01:20:07 will create chaos and just to collect data. And well, just the whole, I mean, the Manson thing is like remarkable, just a, I mean, just the extent to which they've employed propaganda against this guy. I mean, it's just like one lowly, you know, I mean, in-bred, freaking serial killer from like, he's not even a serial killer in the first place, but it's a lead serial killer from Appalachia, warrants, I mean, a guy like, the dude that they later brought out to freaking uphold the JFK investigation, like trying to do like this bulk about him and what have you. I mean, to frame this narrative about Manson. It's like the guy wasn't a serial killer. He was a freaking cult leader slash drug dealer.

Starting point is 01:20:48 They totally just covered up. I mean, the extensive ties that he had to like the upper echelons of Hollywood. And then possibly, I mean, the white supremacist underground, I mean, the elements of what, you know, I think was the American Gladio wing. Well, I mean, again, that actually kind of seems like it was run, you know, heavily around again, one of these like sort of Catholic orders that you're talking about in this case, specifically

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Starting point is 01:21:58 of the 20th Special Forces group working with like the KKK with the civilian material assistance group. And this is really significant because the 20th Special Forces Group is a domestic special forces group from the National Guard that among other things, according to these FBI documents I have, would be initiated in the event that the United States government was decapitated. This means that this is the special forces group that would be, that would take the lead in restoring order in the country if continuity of government was initiated and they are going around and arming and training white supremacist groups okay so think about that for a moment. That is crazy. That's just you know it's like I do a joke about you know people are always like you know humans that are basically good I go oh you know, humans that are basically good, I go, oh, you've never been to a kids park. But in reality, I think people are, I think so

Starting point is 01:22:52 much of this crime and chaos would never happen if there wasn't a group of people just manipulating everybody, wars wouldn't be happening as much. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, we learned about wars through an education system that's meant that was built to lie to us. So I don't know how much of actual violence by human beings is natural and how much of it is just basically controlled opposition, stirring stuff up so that we beg for law and order. Well, yeah, I mean, I think we very much have to be conditioned for this kind of stuff. I mean, I just, yeah, I mean, I don't think that, I mean, human beings are naturally violent towards one another. I mean, when you just look at the way, I mean, American society is structured, I mean, it's like, you know, I mean, the role that I mean just, you know, pop culture plays in this. But I mean, again, we grow up in a, you know, I mean, a society where it's like how many times we've seen were like a real alpha male man, you know, I mean, when he wants to resolve

Starting point is 01:23:53 a problem, he goes out and he shoots somebody. This is how, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger saying that we need censorship or anything to that nature, but I mean, again, this is just sort of the way that we're conditioned from a very early age, that, you know, you resolve problems through, I mean, hurting other people. You know, I mean, again, this is something that's so ingrained in us. And we never even really think about it at this point. Well another thing is like if you kind of study like what they show you and what they don't show you, more importantly what they don't show you, what they don't show you, which is like let's say the news bank robbery. We've talked about this before.

Starting point is 01:24:36 They don't show you bank robberies on the on the news because they don't want monkey see monkey do. They don't want you to copy that, thinking it's okay to do that, to go try to rob a bank. They don't want to plant that into your head. Yet they show you nothing but school shootings all the time. Bill Maher, who I don't agree with all the time, was talking about, if we have a, if you're telling us we have a gun problem problem gun gun problem gun problem problem problem problem problem problem showing gun violence on everything? Yeah. Why are our video getting, like I get pushed back from, oh yeah, the first person shooter games are like another one. I mean, how you don't see that?

Starting point is 01:25:14 How you don't see that is unbelievable. A guy walking down the hallway and we can even have discussions on how many of those are real, but walking on a highway Pagging people off and by I mean real meaning that the shooter they say did it did it did it? Okay, you're right go around shooting people that looks just like first player How you and then we add all the psych meds we're getting these kids on? What's going through what's manipulating? What what kind of manipulation are these psych meds doing to your ability to be vulnerable to?? to to be? to be? to be? to be vulnerable? to be vulnerable? to be vulnerable? to be vulnerable? to be vulnerable? the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their they? I they, I their they, I mean they, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I their their their their their their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, theymea, they? their, their, their, What's going through? What's manipulating? What kind of manipulation are these psych meds doing to your ability to be vulnerable to suggestion? Yeah, I mean I think also too, you mean you've got psychotronics that have been like factored into a lot of this stuff, but I mean yeah it's just, again, I mean with what's been done with some of this stuff and it just seems like

Starting point is 01:26:02 again it goes into this whole plan to cause I mean, I, I, to be more, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to some of this stuff, and it just seems like, again, it goes into this whole plan to cause me more order and chaos, which, or I mean, excuse me, just chaos in general. I mean, there is no order. There's no semblance really of a plan anymore. It's kind of like we're basically on a sinking ship at this point. And nobody really knows what to do. I don't what to do do to do to do to do to do to do to do I want to get into something that you were talking about earlier, and that is the connection between Donald Trump and Epstein, which has been a big debate for a long time.

Starting point is 01:26:37 I have said before, I think Donald Trump is a crime boss. I think there's a lot of Democrats like Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, that are satanic pedophiles. What do you think, what's your research tell you? Well yeah, I mean I definitely think there was a connection. I mean specifically to that whole like mildue with like Michael Milken and what have you, which is just, you know, again, he was the junk bond king and I mean this brings like, so many people on the one hand, who would later play a big role in Trump's rise. I mean, Trump was a part of this network, but also Leon Black, who became such a big back group Trump, and I mean, also, I think, through a holding company brought out

Starting point is 01:27:16 black water or whatever it's calling itself now, academia. And so something like that. Roy Cone, of course, Trump's infamous political mentor was a part of this whole network with Milken. Again, this was a guy who had probably helped bring Epstein into some of these shenanigans. I mean, certainly there's also the connections with the Maxwell family and all this other stuff. I mean, you were a part of this milieu. But it's kind of interesting too because another big guy in this that nobody ta tax Goldsmith who was more or less like the major guy who created the Brexit movement in the UK which was later taken up. So it's like really this whole sort of network I mean around both Trump and Brexit in

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Starting point is 01:28:30 chick, Christine Keeler, who was also sleeping with a G.R.U. agent at the same time, Soviet intelligence. But she was a part of this broader ring run by this guy. Oh gosh, Stevens, I can't remember his name now, but anyway, like this guy had also provided girls in the United States and it seems like several of them had at least two of them had actually also slept with JFK during the 1960s. So you had the specter of this sex ring, Stephen Ward, that's it, Stephen Ward, who had set it up, that might have been penetrated by Soviet intelligence, but in the flip side of the coin, the MI6 and the Americans were aware of all this, so they might have been deliberately letting

Starting point is 01:29:16 it happen so that they could blackmail, you know, because I mean again, you know, they knew Kennedy had slept with a bunch of women, you know, that in and and of itself wasn't going to work, but you got him in a blackmail ring that was penetrated by the KGB, well, you're not getting out of that one, buddy. You're not. I'm with you on that, and it's so crazy because it's like, it's so interesting we live in this kind of world where it's like, oh, hey, hey, you do th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th, hey, you do you. You're gay, you be gay, you're trans, you be trans. But yet like, it's like married men with affairs on the side, powerful men, sleeping with the escorts, it's still super demonized, right?

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Starting point is 01:30:33 everybody loses their shit. And here he is married to a Victoria Seeker model, and then he's banging on his side and only fans, and everybody's losing their minds right, right, right demonizing that we create and I'm not saying people should cheat on anybody or anything like that I'm just saying we create this construct that doesn't go along with what nature is right because if we look at we look at what's kind in culture right what is demonized men who sleep around and women who date men with money, which is if you break it down to your most primal, primal levels, men are meant to sleep, men are meant to procreate

Starting point is 01:31:15 with as many females as possible so that they could make, ensure they have offspring, and women are meant to date the male with the most resources. That is as primal as it gets. It's the same reason men don't want to date women with a high body count, right? Because the biggest petrel on the most primal level is raising an offspring that's not yours. Those are basic things.

Starting point is 01:31:38 And in our culture, the first two, which is men sleeping around and women date and gold, quote, gold diggers are demonized. It's super interest. So now we have this thing where these powerful men with unlimited resources, they have one woman and they bet another woman and I'm not saying that you should cheat on your wife. That's not what I'm saying, but we're demonizing this thing that happens all the time, all the time. And to the point where we can blackmail people. It's why I push back on all these conspiracy theorists who are like, oh, he's secretly gay.

Starting point is 01:32:11 Well he's secretly gay because of people like you call him out, make him feel like a piece of shit that they can fucking demonize and blackmail. That's why you've seen it. It's funny. Especially the men having mistress's thing is a uniquely American thing. You don't see that as much in Europe. They've tried to like, you know, bring these things up about politicians in Europe and

Starting point is 01:32:31 they can, especially France. They don't, they don't have a shit about that in France, dude. It's kind of expected that guys once they get still has a certain amount of influence in the United States. I mean, yeah, that's, it doesn't really work in Europe anymore in a lot of the areas. I think it was like what, I think it was like even 10 years ago. I saw like the Prime Minister of France like make a joke about his, you know, vice president or something like, like, I thinne. Well, I heard he was a little, had a little more pop than me or something like that.

Starting point is 01:33:07 Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm just saying it's used to manipulate. I'm not saying anyone should be cheating on their significant other or anything like that. Why are these things so, that seem like to happen for centuries, now suddenly demonized and used for blackmail. Happens all the time. Do you believe that Trump was in that network participate?

Starting point is 01:33:34 Now, I heard that Trump ran honeypots all the time in New York. And I think the dirtiest game in the business is drug dealing, arms dealing, and New York City real estate are like where just the scumbag and let's, and human trafficking, obviously. Like that's where the scumbacks come out, okay? And Trump was a big part of that. And so he would run all these honeypots all the time. Do you think he was participating in the child sex trafficking business? Yeah, no, I definitely think that he was. I mean, whether or not I mean, he was directly involved with the, you know, the kids themselves. I mean, I think most likely Trump, it would have been more teenagers and what have you.

Starting point is 01:34:20 I mean, I do think that this was more, they're different networks. I mean, some of them cater to like the really young kids. I mean, some are more like the teenage girls and stuff like that. I haven't really seen a lot to make me think that, I mean, Trump really went with like, super, super young women. But I mean, yeah, just given things again to sort of bring it back a bit about with like Ohio that nobody talks about is the bit of howling a connection with Trump because this was the mob guy who was brought in to lay the, what was it, the concrete, I think. He had essentially a monopoly in like all of the New York area from his association with the Gambino family. But this guy set up this crime syndicate in Louis.

Starting point is 01:35:06 Ambino family. But this guy set up this crime syndicate in Louisville, Kentucky called the company, which again was almost totally comprised of like ex- you know law enforcement, special forces and what have you. They were running drugs into the country for cars later. And I mean, all these people for the meddling cartel during the 1980s, they were also supposedly making off with, you know, classified like night vision goggles from China Lake, I mean, all this other military hardware that was being shipped, you know, to the Contras and stuff like that. And Trump, you know, he's in business with one of the partners of that, and he's showing up in freaking, you know, Louisville for the Kentucky Derbies at this time, and he's there with the Clinton's debuished. It's actually like a picture of Hillary Clinton and him

Starting point is 01:35:47 like freaking sitting down with the Kentucky Derby. And I mean, this is like running through just this whole area that I've been talking about, you know, with this epidemic with human trafficking and whatnot. So I mean, it is to make you you wonder, you know, how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how the the the the the thi thi the thi the thi the thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thr-in, thr-inu-inu-inu-inu-inu-in' thranging, thr-in' thr-in-in-in' thin' thin' thin' is thin' is thin' is thin' is thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, the thin, thin' is thin'-in'-in'-in'-in'-I-I-I-I's, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. th. th. thin. thin. thin, thin, thin, thin, the Clintons really brought into this? And I mean, with the convergence of not just organized crime, but I mean, the military, and I mean, all these other groups that were involved in all this kind of stuff, man. I mean, it's striking and it just sort of, you know, again, I think kind of shows that, I mean, there's not a lot of difference between these groups and what have you as well because I mean these guys go, oh came out of the same milieu. Is it possible that crime organizations work together when it's beneficiary and then go to war when they want them they're fighting over the same prize?

Starting point is 01:36:38 Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely think that happens and I think that's a good way to look at like the ruling elite. I mean they definitely have. I think their crime wars like the old mafia families did and certainly with the amount of heads of state being removed and dying suddenly, present right now it does seem like we're in the midst of an ongoing game of thrones. So when Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein for hitting on the member's daughter, Emerlago, do you think he was just saving his ass because he knew Trump, Epstein was done? I mean, it's definitely possible with that. I mean, you know, there was, again, it's a whole complicated situation.

Starting point is 01:37:17 And I mean, also, there's sort of the political aspect of it as well, because, I mean, it seems like clearly Epstein was meant to target the Democratic Party and I mean Trump again had been a registered Democrat for a good Trump his life which is probably where the ties came from but I think this was like right around the time he was trying to ingrain himself with the Republican Party so I mean again there might be some factors with that too I mean it's not to say that the Republicans are any less dirty. I'm sure that they have their equivalent of Jeffrey Epstein out there somewhere, but I mean, who knows? Yeah, it's called the Bushes, dude.

Starting point is 01:37:50 I mean, George Bush was part of the Lincoln scandal. That's my old thing. It's like, right now, yes, right now, the Republican seemed like the voice of reason. And I'm not saying that, that tha tha that's tha, tho. tho. the the they, they, they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, they, the the the the the the the tho, the the tho, the the Republican, tho, it's they, it's they, it's called, it's called, it's they, it's, it's, it's, it's they. It's they. It's they. It's they. It's is is is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. the the thus. thus. the thus. the. the. the. thean. thean. th th th toldean. toean. toldean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toe. th. to'm not saying that, you know, because we have some, we have a lot concerns to listen to the show and I'm okay with that. And I love them. I love everybody, you know, I'm a libertarium. But dude, the notion that one side is like better than the other, they've all, they just go back and forth. What they do is they heard you the one side and once they're on the there, that side commits all this chaos and then you get pissed and you run to the other side. And you just run back and forth, back and forth. Now, are there, like, does the Democratic Party have a major satanic pedophile problem?

Starting point is 01:38:37 100% is Matt Gates shady shit? 100% dude. If you think that guy isn't shady shit, you don't know what he's been up. You haven't heard the rumors about the guy. I mean, to do with that haircut, do you not think was shady, broo? Look at that used car salesman, game show, haircut he's wearing,

Starting point is 01:38:59 he grew up on that Jim Carrey, what was that Jim Carrey movie where like they followed him around everywhere he went? Oh, the Truman Show. Yeah, he grew up in the Truman Show House, okay? In a college is rumored that his gay lover was murdered, okay? I mean like with a smoke, there's fire. So I'm just telling you man, I'm politically atheist. I don't trust either of these parties as far as I can kick them. Make no doubts about it. The Bush clan, the Clinton clan, all the same clan. Now, I'm not saying that Trump isn't shady. I just think he represents another crime organization that is fighting, it's kind of like, you know,

Starting point is 01:39:42 the archetype of the Chicago mayor right are you saying that his crime organization is any in any way less evil than than the other I think it's a different crime organization I don't know at this point I will say I think his organization is less insane from a geopolitical standpoint I mean I think a big part of why they wanted Trump in power was to try to reorient the whole United States military might against just the PRC, the People's Republic of China. Whereas like with the, you know, the Biden kind of Eric Schmidt faction, the Davos faction that kind of came to power, they weren't just contend with the war with China. They wanted to go with Russia. They wanted to go with everybody. And again, you know, I am not saying that either one is like, you know, a good policy for us to pursue.

Starting point is 01:40:34 But I mean, trying to contain just China alone does seem to be a lot more reasonable than trying to start a conflict with both China and Russia simultaneously. And I agree with that. I mean, like, here's my whole thing, dude. It's like crime bosses versus satanic pedophiles. And you know, maybe, just maybe he's a nationalist. Maybe he wants to make all these business deals and but he still believes in America. I just seems like Joe Biden and the Democrats have been selling us out left and right. Now we know that we know that Trump is a Zionist and is like totally behind everything Israel does okay and supports it no matter what they do and we also know that he's the same way with Saudi Arabia. And we all

Starting point is 01:41:25 know Saudi Arabia and Israel were a big part of 9-11. We all know that. Okay? So we, but just like, what is it with America? We know Hillary Clinton said the Chinese government secret documents in real time. Every time she emailed, the Chinese government got an email. These are facts. These are facts. These aren't debatable. So you have to pick your poison. I don't like, I don't like any of it. I want America first. I don't have any problems. I don't like how Israel treats Palestinians. Okay. I don't like that they've been involved in some attacks on the United States. Those are facts. We can sit down. We can argue it all the time. Love Jews. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the the the th. thii. the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thia. thi. thi. thi. We can sit down. We can argue it all the time. Love Jews, love Judaism, okay? Just being honest with you, okay? But do I think that Trump represents a different

Starting point is 01:42:11 organization? Yes. Do I think it's as bad as what George Bush has done? Not even close. And that's my humble opinion. Johnny. Thoughts? Right. Well, I mean, if what our guess is saying is accurate? you know, I can't I have trouble drawing much of a distinction between them as far if if if I'm talking about like on it with respect to evil and just you know yeah not having not having our best interests at heart I have trouble drawing any distinction between all of them and I think that's how they get us into the horse race and the politics is by making us think there are differences.

Starting point is 01:42:50 Well, I think the big thing is it's just the fact that like when you look at the kind of faction around like the Davos crowd and I mean the Atlantic Council and all these other clowns, it's like they're so tied to Europe and I think that's exactly what is driving the conflict with Russia because I mean it's just Europe is a freaking mess. I mean they don't produce anything. They live off of freaking tourism. I mean they're in a lot of this is because their political class is so insanely corrupt. And it's just in this situation it's pretty much inevitable that the Russians were going to start having more influence in it.

Starting point is 01:43:26 So, you know, it's just to me foolish to try to prop up the European elite, especially when you're potentially risking a world war over this. I mean, they're completely and utterly useless. I mean, conversely, again, you know, I'm not saying trying to antagonize the PRC makes a lot of sense. But conversely, they, they, the, the, the, the, thly, thly, thly, thly, like, thly, like, thly, thly, thly, thly, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. to thi. to to to to to to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi,'m not saying trying to antagonize the PRC makes a lot of sense, but conversely, like, I do think it makes sense to be a little weary of the PRC. I mean, it's not exactly like they have a sterling record of human rights or, you know, economic practices or a lot of other stuff. So I mean, there's maybe a logical reason to at least be a little apprehensive towards China and Russia for that manner I'm not trying to say that. And the United States I mean let's just end the United States I mean it's not

Starting point is 01:44:10 exactly like we engage in I mean legitimate practices either but it's just like I guess that's what really gets in my crawl when I mean I look at some of the st up with like the Atlantic Council and some of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the United. the the United. the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the mean, I went to the victims of communism summit. And first off, I mean, okay, you know, this is the one, uh, Solensky's, you know, wife was there to accept like the, uh, warred from them before she met with Joel Biden and what have you. You've got all these people from the Atlantic Council. You've got all these credwin, the founder of the Heritage Foundation, after the freaking thing was over with. These people do not care about average people. They mentioned the cost of gas and what it would do to Europe like once or twice and the whole freaking thing and it was a joke to them. They just want more freaking

Starting point is 01:44:58 money for this war with Russia and to contain China and all this other freaking insanity and what have you. And I mean, it really is the only thing th th th th th th th th th th th th thing thing th th thing thing th thing thing th th thing th thing thing th th th th thing thi th thi thi thin thin thin th th th thin thin thin thin, thin. thin' thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. the th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the. the. the. the. thi. the. the th. th. and all this other freaking insanity and what have you. And I mean it really is the only thing that they care about. And it's just shocking to behold this kind of stuff. And I mean just the sort of militant bloodlust that these, you know, himself proclaimed elites and I mean intellectuals possess. So, you know, again, and it's to me especially grading that I mean it is the neoliberal faction that's really gone whole bore into this. I mean, there's no anti-war movement. There's no left existing anymore. That's why I'm saying that the counterculture seems to be just a giant lie of just a bunch of rich kids who

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Starting point is 01:46:52 We have a predator class that made deals with dark entities that are running sorcery on us. And I think people are waking up. But they're moving that neck break speed to try to push these in before we all wake up. I was just telling Johnny that, you know, Instagram deleted my account and now they're trying to get me to do some more shady shit so they can get the AI, my picture into AI, which probably already knows, but they want it 100%, just to, I think this is social credit score. I think my social credit score with the elites is very bad.

Starting point is 01:47:27 So they kicked me off Instagram. And the only reason they haven't taken my other accounts is because they're actually ran by other people. Yeah. Well, I always tell everybody, if you really want to see the future, look at the third season of West World. That was like probably the best depiction of the, the, the, the whole social credit system set up there, the weaponization of the alternate reality games. I mean, just everything, man. Yeah, they did. You're so right. It was such a... I mean, the outliners, I mean, that's

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Starting point is 01:48:56 That being said, I mean, they do have the capacity to drive us insane because they've figured out how to perfectly simulate, I mean, the world, you know, that we live in in each and every one of us, through a lot of computer technology, they've been developing since the 60s. But that's another topic. But I mean, yeah, we have basically just enough of the tech now to where, I mean, we can create unlimited amounts of chaos, but we have no ideal how to create a functioning society because, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. thi, you, you, you, you, you, you're, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And,'s just, it's, you know, the only thing that you can really compare this to is the rise of the industrial revolution. And that had a massive paradigm shift in the entire West. I mean, this is also led to the West Apollian piece, which is where we get the modern nation state from, you know, with the shift from a digital, to a digital age, it's going to require a new way of living, you know, essentially new political structures and what have you. And that's why I mean, to a lot of extent, it's even pointless to sit around, talk about fascism and communism. I mean, these were ideologies from the industrial age, as was capitalism. And I mean,

Starting point is 01:49:58 all this stuff has had its time, and I just don't thinkthat it really applies now, even though we're going to continue to try to force it on society. What do you think the future should be if it's not capitalism, communist? I would love capitalism but not in its form that's going on right now because I don't think we really have capitalism. I think we have cronyism. I mean, ironically, I do think it was sort of the tech and even like the new age age, to to to the new, to the new, tapapapapapapapape, the new, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, th. thin. I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thin. thi, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I that it, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.... I, I, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I and even like the new age sectors that have like made a lot of interesting moves with like the whole concept of like networking which I'm really fascinated by. Because it's like on the one hand you're almost inevitably going to have a more integrated society. I mean a more globalistic society but conversely you can create these nodes, these like local regions and so forth. And I think that it does provide a fascinating way where you can preserve sort of like a local economy that's like plugged into a broader international network because it's like we're in a situation now. Some of this tech like cryptocurrency and what have you. We don't need banks and all this other stuff. You know, we can create like great local products and

Starting point is 01:50:57 market them to the entire world. You're starting to see this kind of stuff with like S. and so on. So I I I you you could build, I mean, actually, I think, functioning communes and stuff over this kind of thing. And this is, I think, the sort of thinking that we need going forward. I mean, I mean, a kind of decentralized marketplace where the mean, I totally agree, I totally agree, shut down the internet and replace it with something else, it would have done it already. That's just my humble opinion. I think there are dark entities. And you know, the law of duality is light and dark, meaning if there's dark entities, there

Starting point is 01:51:33 has to be light entities, there are metprinciples. And I believe light entities are pushing back. And I, you know, it's like's like again let's go opposites if globalism which I agree is wrong there's some good parts of globalism right there are some where it's like these smaller countries are now manufacturing stuff which has helped their population somewhat rise out of poverty a little bit right there's some good things but overall I don't like globalism I don't like one world government I like my country and I like our like globalism. I don't like one world government.

Starting point is 01:52:05 I like my country. And I like our laws to say our laws. But if the opposite of globalism is local, and I think that's what you're talking about, these decentralized. Well, it's not just that, but I mean, the other thing you've got to kind of keep in mind, it's like, with the th.......... the the the the the the the the the the the the their, they. the they. they. the they. they. they. they. theymeck, theymea, theymea, theymea, they. their, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, theymea, theymea, theymea, th. Wea. We're, theymea. We're, they. We're, they. We're, they. We're, they.ology now it's like we can find people all over the world that have like the same interests that we have so I mean I do think that there is important with the global component but then we can all you know choose to come together in a local area we can start buying up land together we can form

Starting point is 01:52:39 and see I think this is like quite a lot of times commune has filmed the past because you're trying to found them with random individuals, they might have different agendas and what have you. Now it's like you can bring people from everywhere. You can find people, I mean, you have the exact precise interests and stuff that you're looking to do. So I think that's like where you have a really unique way to put this together now, where you can create these local communities out of a global infrastructure or something like that from people who genuinely want to be a part of this. And that, you know, could be a tremendous thing for humanity. And it's a shame that, you know,

Starting point is 01:53:16 instead of looking at that, you know, we're trying to fight a war with Russia and China or something. Yeah, it's super interesting and I do believe the old, now, now we have a record which is the internet and we can spread that record around and now, I think every time they pull some shit, there's a permanent record what they pulled, and now there's people who will call back to that go,, they did this here look at what they did and now they got a they have to change up the game But like you said, they're not original enough

Starting point is 01:53:53 Yeah, they're just not smart enough and you're gonna see corporations and I'm talking about production Businesses art have a giant brain because they're not paying enough and some goes I could just go do this on this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. this this th. this on th. this on th. th. this on th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Look th. Look thi. Look they they're thi. Look they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they look. look. look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. they. they. they. Look. Look. they're they're they're they're they're th. Look. I. Look. I th. Look. they're they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're not paying enough and someone goes, I could just go do this on my own on the internet and make more money and be my own boss and that's where it's going. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, that's I think where you're seeing as where the real innovation is going to. Yeah, that's why podcasts have become so big in the last couple of years.

Starting point is 01:54:24 You know how you were saying about the permanent score? I got to ask him about, uh, weren't the, like the flight logs, a permanent score of like everybody that was there, you pull those up and show you were there. Yeah, but, but, in a weird kind of way, can't we pull those up and then do you think everybody that was on those flight logs were there? Do you think it was made up? Do you think people were added on there? What we're asking for is corrupt people to fix corruption? We need these corrupt people and we just had our conversation about how law enforcement fully engages

Starting point is 01:55:00 in corruption. So we're asking corrupt people to change corruption. And the one thing that you can say whatever you want about right versus left, Republican versus Democrat. The one thing that I do like the Republican that the conservative side of the country does, more than the left side, is when they don't like something, they pull their money and attention out.

Starting point is 01:55:21 And it tends to collapse on each other. So we have these people, we have this permanent record, Wanda Sykes, Kathy Griffin, all these like comics who are on the flight logs that any time they do something, they get pounded on. And you can say whatever you want about Hillary Clinton, but she didn't get what you want. Should you be in jail 100%. But again, we're asking corrupt people who participate in equal types of corruption

Starting point is 01:55:48 to arrest and jail corrupt people. Well, then that sets the precedence. But what we do see is that society has, anytime Hillary Clinton tries to do anything, she just gets pounded on, dude. She may not see it because she doesn't run her own social media, but those who work more know the temperature of the room. And that is pure hatred. She has no clue because she doesn't run her social media because she's 80 years old. But everyone around her knows that. When Wanda Sykes does anything, I pound on her. Hey, you were on the flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein. So people are waking up to it. So we can only control so much.

Starting point is 01:56:29 What we can't control is where we put our time, our attention, and our money and resources into. And that's why Hollywood is dying. Exactly. And I mean, that's, you know, what we need to kind of keep thinking about, you know, I mean, put our money and resources into thiiiiiiiiii, the their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, toe, toe, toe, to be, to be, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho... tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe, toe, you know, what we need to kind of keep thinking about, you know, I mean, put our money and resources and the things that we think they're going to me, make the world better and I mean, more positive place, you know, I mean, and I mean, and I mean, I think if that's really the one sort of silver lining with like the lockdowns and what have you're saying, you know, people listening to this. I mean, I think I can do this. I mean, I didn't think a couple of years ago that I could run a podcast or that I could

Starting point is 01:57:07 do all this other stuff. But I mean, you know, you just kind of like, I just sit down and learn and believe in yourself. And I mean, certainly, you know, if you put it up there, you put it up to, to put it, to put it, to put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put stuff, put, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put, put stuff, put stuff, put, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put stuff, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, put, man. You put it out there, you treat people well. It comes back to you. I believe in manifesting, I believe in all that stuff. And I think if you put out positive energy, you help others, you love others,

Starting point is 01:57:34 you are, the universe takes care of you. Stephen, man, this was a great conversation. Thank you so much for coming on. It's great to know you're you're out there doing some great work. One more time. Tell us your podcast and your website and anything else you'd like to promote. Well my podcast is the Farm Podcast Mach 2 that's M. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. today. today. M. A. A. A. A. C. I. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. I. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A., all one word, blog spot.com. And I'm also the author of Strange Tales of the Parapolitical, post-war Nazis, mercenaries, and other secret history with Frank Zero and a special relationship, Trump, Epstein, and the secret history of the Anglo-American establishment, all by myself.

Starting point is 01:58:17 And that was the one where I get into all the stuff, the weird, masonic sex rights that they did and all that good stuff. Good question, is he alive? What's it? Oh yeah, is he still alive? I've seen his alive? No, no, I don't think that he's alive. All right, we had to make sure we have, we're bringing up, we always got to ask. Uh, you thought, you thought he, who do you think killed him? I mean, who thi. Who th. Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Is? Who? Who? Who? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Is? Is? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Do? Who th. or something like that, but I mean, yeah, it's just... Who put out the hit then? I mean, does it really like matter at this point? I mean, I think it was Queen Elizabeth. It could have been, I mean, I just, to me, it's just like more interesting how blatant it is at this. Like, it's like, it's like, to the elite's like, they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th need to like cover this kind of thing up anymore. It's like almost like a big part of this as we wrap up is that the elites are getting more and more brazen.

Starting point is 01:59:10 As we get more and more powerful, they're asked to show us that they do what they want to do and they're not, they don't care what we want, is getting more and more more brazen. And I think that's going to cost them more and more and more and more. I personally think that Saudi Arabian golf tournament held at Trump's golf course, only a short jump away from 9-11 was a giant signal that we do what we want to. That's me personally. They could have had that they could have had that tournament anywhere. To have it right there is a giant FU to everybody because they're trying to show,

Starting point is 01:59:51 dude, Joe Biden, Camel Toh Harris, I'm sorry, man. She was the lowest polled candidate, and now she's a vice president. That's all done to break our will, and they're not going to win in my humble opinion One more time Stephen. Thank you so much for coming on. Did you get my DMs? Did you see my message? Yeah, yeah, I got your messages. Yeah, just a copy and paste the email and send me all the links because I want't hate me, especially you married ladies, you know, I love you. Marriage is a very special thing for those who wanna do it. I love you guys very much.

Starting point is 02:00:31 Thanks again, Stephen, thank you, Xavier. Thank you, Johnny, and we will talk to you soon. We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron.

Starting point is 02:00:57 This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind.

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