Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #607: The Lost Tribes of Israel with El DeRado

Episode Date: May 27, 2018

Welcome to a special preview of killer content you get on the Tin Foil Hat's Secret Society of The Mad Hatters. This episode Sam discusses the history of the Lost Tribes of Israel with High School fri...end Tony DeRado. Plus we feature Kyle James's song "IIluminati" at the end. If you enjoy Kyle's song please click on the Soundcloud link to check out some more of his work. Thank you all of your support. Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone. Thank you so much for your support and enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to check us out on all of our social media platforms on Twitter at Tinfoil Hat Cast on Instagram at Tinfoil Hat Pod. For all comedy t-shirts.com. Email us at Tinfoil Hat. At Gmail. to. Welcome back to another episode of Tinfoil Hat. Tinfoil Hat.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Come with me. Into the waters of conspiracy with Sam Tripoli. Sam Tripoli. Sam Tripoli. Mr. Sam Tripoli. With my friend Ryan Davis. Ah, hi Ryan. We're the first gay couple of conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I think it's a beautiful man. What you're calling you all their partner? Say that again? It's some mystical deep, dark realm, crazy shit. Wake up, Aaron. The reptile people everywhere. Hey man, where's the truth there, dog? What the fucking guysuth there, dog? What the fuck are you guys even talking about?
Starting point is 00:01:07 Are you ready to get your mind blown? Revolution will be podcasted. Hello everybody and welcome to a very special episode of Secret Society of the Mad Hatters. I am here with one of my longest running friends in the universe. A young man, we'll just call him Eldorado, Tony. We have been friends since what grade would you say, Tony? That would be seventh grade, Sammy. We were not friends in elementary school.
Starting point is 00:01:42 My one fight I ever got into my whole entire life was with Sam. We knew each other. I put him in a headlock in fifth grade and let's just put it this way. He was done. We didn't hang out at all in elementary school? I tell everybody the story that we were not friends in elementary school. Matter of fact, Sam had a birthday, their thrown, their thr--a............ thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrownee. throwne. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. thebbed. th. thoomeweeweewee. thoe. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was was was was was th. I was was th. I was was was th. I was the. I was was the. I was. I was. the. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toeauuuu. toeau. toeau. toeau. toeau. toeau. toeau. toeau. thea. thea. thea. I was the only boy not invited to this party. Is that true? All these girls showed up at Sam's place because I thought it was going to be a co-ed party and your mom sent them packing and they all came down to the local convenience store where I was just down there. Yeah exactly so I didn't feel so
Starting point is 00:02:16 bad once the girls got booted that I wasn Childhood trauma. Shout out, childhood trauma. You know, it's so interesting about comedy and we'll get into why I want to, about high school and comedy for me is like, funny wasn't sexy until, until college. That's true. In high school, it's borderline idiotic. Girls look at you like, you have mental problems. But once you get to college, it just becomes this aphrodisiac. And it was on like Ceshawant. Granted, when you're 20, it's like, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. 100%.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But in high school, it was like, it was like Shannon Maine and that was it. No, I'm right there with you. Matter of fact, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi that was that was like, I that was it. Now I'm right there with you. Matter of fact, I think that was the first time that I realized, like getting in like freshman year that like making a girl laugh was just as good as anything. But yeah, no, Sam and I, we didn't have the girls flock into us in high school. Which was weird. We are good looking guys. I was talking about how it's very interesting because my cousin was over here and he's in
Starting point is 00:03:25 10th grade and he's dating an 11th grader and I go I'm of course I called her rock in the boat a rock in the cradle all that stuff but it was very interest because usually you date up but they were dating just like us so the girls in our grade were dating one year older and the girls that should have been dating us were dating down. Yeah, which was so weird. Exactly. Which made us feel like garbage people.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, it was slim pickens. And then I do a joke about how my prom day left me, left me a problem and went home and fucked the 10th grade. Oh. The trauma, man. It stays with you. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thue story. The trauma man it stays with you. It stays with you. So what were you voted? Were you voted anything in high school told? Most artistic. Most artistic, which was crazy because you
Starting point is 00:04:14 now you went into art. You get paid to make art for the local college, which is great. Yeah. And then I was voted class clown, which I was determined to get going into seventh grade. It was a mission. It was a long plan and I achieved it. I would have been devastated if I did not get that. Who was the class clown girl with you, you remember?
Starting point is 00:04:36 I do not. I do not remember who was. All right. Look it up. Look it up. I lost my yearbook. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was.. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was........................................................................... know that. Look that one up, class 91 yearbook, right? Look it up, look it up. I lost mine. I lost my yearbook. I have it at home.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'll check it out. Okay. I'll text you later. So we go to college. I go to UNLV. You go to go to Elford State. Yeah. Alfred State, it's a state school two years. Okay, so you go, let me see, talking to it again. Yep, we got it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You got to talk like that. You go there and at some point Tony, and the whole point I want to get into this thing is your religious journey that you went on, that you're still into, you're still very religious guy and in our on this podcast We have we have interviewed people That you know we just had a guy on the the mainstream his name is praying Medic he is a very Christian man. He's a big cue
Starting point is 00:05:37 Q anonymous within the community that people know what I'm talking about and you know People fell on both sides of how they felt about him which is fine. You know and I don't have to interview anybody that. that you know and I don't you. you. you. you. you. you. you. We you. We you. We you. We you. We you. We you, you, you, you, you, you you you you you, you you you you you you you you have you have you have you have you have th th tho, we have you have you you, we have th th. We have th. We have th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to have to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to on both sides of how they felt about him which is fine you know and I don't have to interview anybody that I necessarily have the same exact beliefs I don't want to be in an echo chamber. I am a spiritual man I am open to hearing about all religions and you know and over the years I've heard about you you know you've talked to me a lot about your opinions and how you see the world go. but what point do you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to you to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi tho tho thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th th. th. I th. I thi thi thi thi the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the an the an the an th know, you've talked to me a lot about your opinions and how you see the world go.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But what point do you become, what made you become, join the religious group that you, you are in now? Yeah, so, it pretty much goes back a long way with me. I mean, you know, you and I were friends in high school. We didn't, I, you know, it was as religious as anybody else, which is, you know, you go to church on Sunday and... We never went to church. Well, my mom brought me three weeks. Yeah. But, you go and you put in your hour time on Sunday and you think you're doing good. I was going to have green blood and be gay. Yeah. Which was which honestly in a lot
Starting point is 00:06:50 of ways not going to church maybe you know maybe you know maybe you're better off for it because I've had a lot of conversations with people over the years and some of the most obstinate people that I've had a conversation with are the people that have been deep-rooted family traditions in their church and it's just tradition that's all it is which is fine honestly you know say that it's your tradition say this to what you do say that you celebrate everything in a very kind of secular way. I don't have any problem with that. Where I think the problem comes in is where people confuse that, their own tradition with what actually...
Starting point is 00:07:33 And we're going to get into that. Yeah, let's talk about how we got here though. So it pretty much goes back. I always say that this was an interesting thing thing thing thing thing thing. Yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thing, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I's, I, I'm, tho, tho, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. thi. thi. thi. thi that this was an interesting thing, you know, point in time in my life because I grew up with a mom who very much believe in God. I did not go to any organized church when I was young. My dad, I didn't know it at the time, but my dad I believe was an atheist, never really talked about it. That's very interesting, Tony, because I talk about this about our growing
Starting point is 00:08:06 up together and I I remember as being closer than maybe you remember it but maybe I could be wrong too. I realize that when it comes to memory of that time you are the court stenographer you you have all the minutes I've learned that over time so if you remember it that's pretty much how it goes. But I remember that we were the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their I their I their I their. I their I their I their. I their. I their. I the their. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I remember. I remember. I the. I the. I the. I. have all the minutes. I've learned that over time, so if you remember it, that's pretty much how it goes. But I remember that you were the first wave of divorce. And I felt that that had a big impact on a lot of people. Oh yeah. And it had an impact on the psyche of,'s say you Tim who else was in the group
Starting point is 00:08:46 that got divorced I mean Dave lost it was father it was like it was like the dominoes fell man during the 80s of dominoes fell but it it it definitely changed us did and even though my parents didn't get divorced it affected me by the interactions we all had oh yeah and I talk about this a lot that how like what happens in your childhood and it's this whole movement to get away from bullying that I understand that but I also worry about what that will do in the long run because what happened to me? You know I have a friend of my name Theo Vaughan he's wonderful comedian. He's very funny and he often talks about as a child he hated his life so much. He started telling stories and he became so good
Starting point is 00:09:30 at it. That's what he does on stage right now. Now with me, I always tell people about the famous Pontillo's booth where if you sat in this one seat part of the booth, you got lit up. That was the light up seat. And everybody did it. And at th. the th. the the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi their their their their their thiolu. Hea' thiolie. Hea' thiolie. Hea. He th. He th. He th. He he th. He he th. He he th. He he th. He he he he he he he he th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's the. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's toda. He's toda. He's toda. He's toda. He's lit up. That was the light up seat. And everybody did it. And at the time, it was pure torture. But I didn't appreciate what later on, it really did help me become this guy that is notorious for annihilating hecklers. Yeah. You got it. And like I remember going to college and they used to call it the Tripoli low blow, which was like, we would,, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they used to call this, the Triply Low Blow,
Starting point is 00:10:05 which was like we would, we, I call Patty Kegs, verbal Patty Kags, and then when I got bored I just kneecap you. Because that's just what I was great at. But then it all comes from the fact that at some point our group stopped fighting physically and started verbally just annihilating each other. Yeah. and started verbally just annihilating each other. And small town life. Well, I think small towns.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like I'm working on this bit right now that like you always hear black people talk about how hard it is from the hood. And I go, well, I'm upstate New York, that's ghetto country in my opinion, especially now. Oh, you have crack houses, we have meth labs. Yeah. We could go through all the similarities. And it's just the true, like, people always fall. We were having a big discussion last night about, you know, Dan Garrett, our good friend and how he went through a rec shop and everybody was fighting. But our group never did that.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Our group was verbal. And it was like, it was like, go at each other verbally, which later on becomes this amazing tool that I have, but I didn't appreciate that time. Yeah, no, and you know, for how stupid we were, and honestly, you know, sometimes for how cruel we were to each other, it definitely got into a thing where we used that in many different ways. I actually used it to be, you know, the person, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, I to, I to, I'm, I'm, to, to th. to to th. to th. to know, to to th to to th to to thin, th th th thin, you know it to be the person in college that, you know, I joined a fraternity did all that stuff, but my room in the fraternity house when we had
Starting point is 00:11:32 a party, it was come upstairs and get deep. And you know, we would, you know, and obviously, you know, break out other stuff besides alcohol and stuff like that. But we talked, we talked a lot in high school. We talked about everything. We went from highs to lows. Alfred was an art school. It was.
Starting point is 00:11:51 OK, so maybe that was really. With a lot of football players. So Alfred University is a big football school. So it was like 50-50, man, was a lot of like ceramic engineers too. But in a fraternity, I mean, I'm telling you this, you know, this is an art school fraternity where you're all sitting around, you know, doing something. I mean, okay. But we had a great time, but we, I used that in different way to how you used it. But we talked, we did a lot of talk. We did a, we did a, we did a, we did a, we did a, we did a, we did a, we did a, we to, we did a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, today, tod. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, tony, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the a, the, I, I, the, the, I, tony, tony, tony, tot, tot... tote, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, totally, tha, toda, we went home angry, you know, but it was a great upbringing.
Starting point is 00:12:25 We had a great time here in this town and we were great friends and I look back at nothing but love. If I didn't love I wouldn't come back, of course. Once or twice a year, you know. Everybody says the same thing when they come back, you know this was a pretty, pretty pretty awesome upbringing. It is a little shady. It is a little, it is a pretty, it is a pretty, it is a pretty, it is a pretty, it is a pretty, it is a pretty, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi., thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, which is fine. There's nothing wrong. There is no place where there is no shady. It's just everywhere's got its warts. So let's move on.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But you were talking about the first wave of a divorce to happen. Yes. And about how that affected us all. It affected us. And you were getting into your mother being religious. And you know my mom was definitely, you know, the people is the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the first, the first, the first, the first, you, you, you, the, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th.. th. th..... th. th... th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, the the, the, the, is, the, is, the, the, is, is, the, is a the, you know, there's the people always talk about I'm more spiritual than religious or whatever. Well, that's a very fine line. And I don't know where you draw the line and I really don't. I know that my mom believe in God and she always talked to us about that.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And I always, this is something funny, but I always grew up believing in God and I I always thought to tho th was th was th was the points it was the points it was the points it was thus thus thus thus thus thus tho thus thus thus thus. thus. thus. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho tho tho. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thin, I don't thin thin thin, I don't thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't thin. I don't thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. th her. And it was years later that I realized that I'm like, oh, this is funny, why does the voice of God? Why does he have a British accent? And I realized, oh, that's the voice of Obi-Wan talking to Luke. And you put that on it? Yeah, exactly. Just as a young kid, you know, Star Wars came out where you're four years old, and so I incorporated them into my...
Starting point is 00:13:46 That is so fun. But you do that. And you see that in movies where it's almost, like Ghostbusters, choose the form of the destroyer. Yeah, that's right. And you just think like, okay, I'm not the only, that comes. But that makes sense. that, but that, but that, but that makes sense, but that, but that makes sense, but that makes sense, but that makes sense, but that makes sense, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you, you, you, you, that's, you, you know, you're, you're, you. that, you. that, you. that, you. that, you. that, you. that, you, you. that. that. that. that, you. But, you. that. But, you, you, you, you, you. Yeah, you, you. Yeah, you, you, you. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, you, you, you, you. that, you that, you that, you know, you that, you know, you that, you that, you that, you know, you that, you that's, you, we, but there was always something between my mom and my dad. And this was kind of the catalyst for my, really, honestly, for my whole life. So my mom and my dad, their first child born in 1970, died two days old in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And when they went to have him buried in the Catholic Church, they went and talked about it, they said that he could not be buried in the Catholic cemetery. And what is the reason? My dad was most of the reason. And they said, your son wasn't baptized, he is lost. And that day forward, my dad was an atheist. My dad was already brought up in a Catholic school with back in the, you know, 50s,
Starting point is 00:14:48 and when it was just the nuns were just ruthless. And already seen enough hypocrisy, that was the end of it. And you know what, my father went through that as well. I'd never had this conversation with my dad. Honestly, I never have. I've gotten bits of pieces from my mom and other things th things th but you know what that'd be enough to push me over the edge too. Yeah. And so by the time I was born in 73, I never sniffed a church.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But my mom always had that spiritual side to her and this. Did she ever tell you why it didn't infect her? Because I think my mom saw God outside of the church. My dad never saw any evidence of that. And how could, in probably my dad's perspective, how could the richest most powerful church on the planet that claims to be of the Christian faith, be the wrong one? And so it just, I don't think my day was ever on a spiritual journey. So he was looking for it. That time is where the church starts to lose its grip on a tha tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th th th th th th their th th th th th th thi the the the the the the thi thi thi thi the the the. the. the. the. the. the. And the. And thi thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi the the the thi the the the the thi thi the the thi thi thi thi. thi. th on a spiritual journey. I think that he was looking for it. That time is where the church starts to lose its grip on a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Because the truth starts coming out, you know, and all that stuff. So you grow up in a mom being religious, which is somewhat my family too. My mother was religious, she took me to the Presbyterian Church over here and but we didn't go that long. And then my dad was very anti- well, I don't think he was ever atheist. He's just anti-organized religion. So you go to college and you're into... I have to say that's probably my dad's standpoint as well. I think it was spiritual, you know, but I mean I think he... I don't know if my dad doesn't believe in God. I think he believes in God but I don't think he believed in organized religion. My mother, she took me into a couple of
Starting point is 00:16:35 Presbyterian, like I said, she'll hit up the Armenian church once in a while. That's her. That's that generation. So you go to art school. You go to Alfred. It's not it's a Football art school. You're in there When do you start to when do you start to? Things change? Things change. Yeah, and so I'm just gonna just back up just a little bit here, so when my mom and my dad split up when they got that divorce, my mom got us back into the church? So I was late usually make your first community in the Catholic Catholic Catholic Catholic Catholic Catholic Catholic? the Catholic? the Catholic? the Catholic? the the the the the the the the the the their football? their football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football the football the football the football the football the football the football. the football the football the football the football the football the football the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. the football. their. their. their. the football. their. the football. their. the football. their. the football. their. the football. the the football. their. the football. the football. the football. the the football. the football. the football. the football. their. their the football. their the football. the the the the the the the the football. the the the football. the the the football. the the football. the the football. the football. the football. mom got us back into the church. So I was late usually make your you know your first community in the Catholic Church on second grade. I did mine in fourth grade. I made my confirmation when I was in 10th grade. When I made my confirmation in 10th grade I went back one day. When I made my confirmation in 10th grade I went back one day. One time that I go back after my confirmation. So you confirmed. It was not not anything the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the first the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I was. to. to. the first. the first. I was. the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was. I was. I was. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the........ the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that I go back after my confirmation. So you get
Starting point is 00:17:25 confirmed? It was not anything intentional. I never had any attention and I remember when I went back that time I went back. You like why am I do? I felt like I'm back. You know I don't know why I was away. I'm back and then I never went back and so you know I didn't really I just thought this is what you were supposed to do but I can tell you th you th you and th you th you th you th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm t. I'm te. I'm toda. I'm te. I'm toda. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm th. I'm, but I can tell you and all the time that I was there and I went through my church school and all this stuff before confirmation, I didn't learn anything. And here's a great little story for you. Okay. Because you mentioned earlier that I have a good memory, right? You mentioned this. Well, one time we were over in church school and sister Catherine stops Matt and I in the hall. And're goofing around our buddy Matt Governor Alley. Matt Gvernalley who we've heard and learned fun new stuff about this week.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Yes and exactly and so Matt could be one of the most powerful people on the plane. That's another podcast right? Yeah. You have to get goob in here. Yeah. It was a good goob in here. Yeah. So this is so this is the question. The sister stops Matt and I in the hallway because we're goofing th th th th th th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. the the thooooo. th. the the the the the th. the the they. I I th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. thou. th. th. the the the the th. thin. the the the th. I the th. I th. so this is the question the sister stops Matt and I in the hallwakes we're goofing around and she You know comes down on us because we're goofing around and she asks Matt to tell her something that we know about God that we know about Jesus. Sorry though something we know about Jesus. Hey, they're stop you. Oh, and I panicked and I was so happy. She asked Matt. and she and Matt goes well. I know he died for our sins and all. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi's, the, the, the, the, th. thi, th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. thi. the. the. the thi. thi. the thi. thi. the. And Matt goes, well, I know he died for our sins. And all of a sudden this look of anger on her face just changed to like pure joy. And I see the look on her face as she's so happy at this answer. And I have no idea what it means he died for our sins. I mean, honest, I'm in eighth grade or whatever it is. I've no idea what that means. Matt says, and she was just so happy, she never asked me.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I mean Matt, Matt. And she sent us on our way. And I thought to myself, huh? I can, and I always remember that, and I used that so many times after. I had no idea what it meant. I could remember it and I remember how happy it made that sister, and that was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was, I was, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. th. th. th. th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, that, that, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. that, th. th. th. that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th sister and that was it. So I never went back after that. I never went back after my confirmation and then so you fast forward to college years where you are but yeah. My, uh, Dana, my girlfriend, her niece used to teach in a very orthodox Jewish school. Yeah. And one day, the kids had a question in which she couldn't answer in the text of the religion. So she called in like the head rabbi.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And she goes, I proceed to watch this guy lie to these kids. Just straight up lie to the children. And I think that affected her because shortly after that she moved on to another school. How was he lying you know? Did she say? Oh it was basically about like how did we come around or like yeah just something that is like and I'm not I listen we talk about us a lot in this podcast I believe in science I don't believe in scientists yeah I will always question scientists sure question who is funding their thing how does that funding affect the results does it do
Starting point is 00:20:32 they think I get the results the people fun I will always like the people that it's just this yeah it's just like trial and what are the results and I'm like no that's not it at all and that is literally what some people that is literally faith and you know as mostly science it's as much of a religion as anything at that is not supposed to be faith it's supposed to be cut and dry binary ones and zeros or whatever that is right it's supposed to be boom boom boom but when the dollars run in that here comes here comes like you know Tony you and I have talked about this before like you know it's the the the the th th th th th. th. the th. the the th. the th. the the the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. So. th. th. th. the th. the the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. thoo. thooo. theeat. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the. the. th. here comes the, you know, Tony and I have talked about this before, like, you know, it's like when they to, cigarettes, science told people smoke cigarettes, it was
Starting point is 00:21:12 good for them. Oh yeah. Nobody remembers that. And that's a big theme in my life. Growing up, they told us that 20 joints equaled one cigarette. That was the data. That was the science. Now, is that the science you believe in? Because, oh no, that was bad science. Well, how do you know you're not getting bad science right now? All the time. Exactly. And it's the, and like you said, it's the funding. FDA, they've outlawed marijuana and they've outlawed vitamin B 27, which cures cancer. Like why is that outlawed? Yeah. Why is this the people are supposed to be in charge of health? Why are they outlawing this thing? But that's a difference. Yeah. It is a different. Yeah. But it's good. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's it's question everything. It's a big part. Question everything. to question everything. Yeah. Question everything. to question everything. that's a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. things. things. things. things. things. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the tho. tho. That's the saying on the show. Question everything, it's free. That's right. And you know what? That's honestly all I want. So when I got into college, I was a junior in college. I've lived in my fraternity. I'm in charge of setting up the parties, buying the kegs, all that business. We got a great time. A lot of th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and tho, and tho, and they. tho, they. tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's honestly, that's honestly, that's that's honestly, that's honestly, that's honestly, threats. threats. that, that business, you know, we got a great time, a lot of girls growing weed at this point Tony, did you you've grown weed for a little while?
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Starting point is 00:23:09 There was no way cooler than Dennis Dorado. He was, I had the long hair, he's a drummer. Everybody loved him. the legendary figure. Shannon Quinlan. She lived in Vegas. She comes in my shows once while I always interview her about the legend of Shannon Quinn. And then I, you know, your brother, I feel like you guys are very close.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yep, you guys are close. But does he get into this religion? And I'll let you tell what you're about. No, that's a perfect, again, that's a perfect thing. I got a chance to see him. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he. hehehe he, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you, the. th. th. th. th. th. th story. No, that's the perfect, again, that's a perfect thing. I got a chance to see him. He, and again, you know, people have a hard time. Well, you know, who'd you hear this from? Or blah, blah, you know, and how they, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:51 they always have a problem with how you heard something. Well, I'm sorry, but to try, to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, to, to, the, the,, honestly, it could be anything. You go look for, how you get news doesn't matter. If it's true or not, that's what matters. And so I always talk about this because it was Den, my brother, who said to me, and it was a two simple questions, and at this point in time you guys, I was out of religion. You're out. I was out. I wasn't on any journey, I wasn't looking looking looking looking looking, I wasn't looking, I wasn't looking, I wasn't looking, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't, I was, I was, I was, th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It, it, it, it was, it was, it was, to, toeeea, toeean, toean, toeea, toean, toea, toea. toea,. I wasn't looking or anything like that and my brother Who was basically? Starting to get a new religion at the time And I questioned him on it was in school he was in college. He already graded he'd just graduated from Oneon to state. Okay. Yeah, and
Starting point is 00:24:39 And it, you know picked up some new beliefs and stuff like that. So I questioned him on it. I thought he was alone. Yeah, I really did. I he I I I he. I he. I he. I he. I he. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He was th. He was th. He was th. He was. He was. He was. He th. He th. He th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He was. He was. He. He was. He was. He was. He. He was. He. He was. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was just basically. He was just. He was just basically. He was just. He was just. He was just. He'd he was just. He'd he. He'd th So I questioned him on it. I thought he was a loon. Yeah, I really did I thought I thought Flowing hair seriously, and I'm like you know You know my brother, you know, you know, loved women and loved drugs and everything all of a sudden my brother is that he wasn't looking for anything to I knew that so he said he said. He said I questioned him on it and he said, I'm gonna ask you a th???? th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. I'm he. he. I'm he. he. I'm he. he. I'm he. he. he. I'm he. I'm the the they. I'm they. I'm the the the the the the the the he. I'm he's he's. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he. I'm he's. I'm he's. I'm he's th. I'm th. th. th. I'm th. th. th. He's th. He's th. He's like, he's like, he's th. He's like, he's like, he's like, I th. He's like, I'm th. I'm said, I'm going to ask you a very simple question. And he's like, and this is all I'm going to ask. He said, tell me the two Christian holidays, two biggest Christian holidays, that point and simple. I thought it was a stupid question answered in two seconds. Very easy. It's Christmas and Easter.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And he said, where do those holidays come from? Another stupid easy simple question from the Bible and he said what if I told you that neither one of those two holidays are in the Bible and at that point in time again it's like any conspiracy. What I do all right first of all you're a nut but you know what you know I'll look into it and get back to you. So I did my own thing I went back and looked in encyclopedias looked in the Bible look and to the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. Ic. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tea.ea. I'ma. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. tea. I'm not. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I went back and looked in encyclopedias, looked in the Bible, looked at everything, to try to find the origins of Christmas and Easter, and it was very simple, and it came up with, is that neither one of those two are mentioned in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That was the first thing that I discovered, and I could not believe it. If they weren't from the Bible, where they come from? And I they the, if they they th th th th, if the th, if th, if th, if their th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, if thi thi, if thi, if thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I was thi, I was thi, thi, thi, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and the origin, the origin, and the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, the origin, their, their, their, and it, their, their, their, and I, their, their, and I was, and I was, their, and I was, and I was, and thi. thi. thi. thin, and thr. thr. throoan, and that, thr-i. throooan, and thr-i. thr-i. thr. thi at this point in time I am set out determined to prove my brother wrong. Okay. And I couldn't do it. All right. And so, you know, whether or not we, you know, you want me to tell you what the answer is I, you know, came up with. But that is the start of it at that point in time is this question of why is the wool been pulled over. to their told. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, their, they, their, they, their, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, their, thi. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the wool been pulled over? Why did I go to years of church school being told this story and I got into other issues of heaven and hell? We've dealt with that on the show where it was like why are why is this religious ceremony a part of this thing when it really does have on and you know for me I the show Tim Foyle Hat and this podcast we're doing the
Starting point is 00:26:47 Secret Side of the Mad Hatters we've been able to dive in to some stuff and look at like long games like long far down the line even past like Jesus and all that stuff and like there these rituals and these people we call the Masters of mankind. That's a noom Chomsky saying he he he talks. He talks. He he he they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He the the the the the secret. He the secret. He the secret. He's. He they. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tok. He tok. He tok. He tok. He tok. He tok. He the tok. He the tok. He we call the masters of mankind. That's a no. Noam Chomsky, nom Chomsky saying he talks about it in the Requiem for American Dream Doc that's on Netflix and he calls them Masters of Mankind and like the manipulation that goes on from these people to control masses. And and and so here's the may I ask you that the yeah the and then we'll get the that control masses. And so here is the, and so here is the, may I ask you that the, the, and then we'll get to, that's right, go ahead. Is it, was those religions, those, those ceremonies, those holidays, were those brought in to kind of
Starting point is 00:27:39 continue these pagan holidays? Yep. So, and this information I think is more readily available than it was in 1994 when I first discovered this show. People actually had to be very savvy. You actually had to go to the library in 1994 to find stuff. Seriously, I mean, it was, it was, you know, it's like, I don't necessarily know people understand what it was like. I asked a ttrip to Buffalo from Alfred a day how did I get there without Google Maps you know like and somebody's like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:28:09 you take you know 81 blah blah blah take a yeah exactly you went to library you looked at it was word of mouth type stuff so back in the day this was this information was a little harder these days. And so it goes back to Rome, okay? It goes back to him and it goes back to the Emperor Constantine. All right, in Council of Nicaea in 325, the Council of Nicaia was determined, he was determined to unite the Roman Empire under the sign of the cross. The sign of the cross was already the sign of the cross. The sign of the cross was already being used by both the pagans and the Christians. It was being used
Starting point is 00:28:52 by both he claimed he had a vision of the cross in the sky and the Latin term is in Hock Signiel Vinces or Vinces which means in this sign which means in this sign conquer and he he took this to mean that he's going to unite the empire under this sign and so the council of Nicaa was determined to merge paganism and Christianity and so the Saturnalia celebrated by the Romans from the 17th and 25th December around the winter solstice around the time of all the pagan revelry and everybody knows winter solstice the time that the sun is actually closest to the earth all right right and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the. the. the. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so, the the the the the the the the the the the. And some. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. And so. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the on the time of all the pagan revelry and everybody knows winter solsts this time that the sun is actually closest to the earth All right, and so you know they celebrate the you know renewing of spring and all this stuff That right there the was also celebrated Saturn and that whole time it was a time it was called the birth of the sun?
Starting point is 00:29:34 the birth of the sun god, all that black It was the birth of the sun god because the sun is coming back to us. And guess what? The birth of the sun god became the birth of the son of God. And we have the 25th of December. Oh, snap! El Torado! The December 25th becomes a birth of the son of God. That is amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And December 25th has been hollowed by that, or I should say that date's been hollowed by many people ever since. It was actually outlawed here in the United States. The first people coming over. People always hear about them, you know, the pilgrims, flurrying, sorry, fleeing religious persecution. They never asked what religious persecution they were facing.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It was because they were trying to get rid of all the paganism that was becoming so widespread over in England. It came here to get away from it. And it was actually outlawed. Christmas was outlawed here. Christianity? I'm sorry, Christmas was outlawed here. In the United States.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And it wasn't until later on until, guess what comes back into play? The mighty dollar. In this image of Santa comes in, and it's all. Do you know where Santa's from? It's a shaman in this one, uh, eastern European, I believe, country, where a shaman would show up, he'd eat shrooms in your living room, and his gift of you was like to basically tell you how the world's worked as he just tripped balls?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like, how much better would organized religion be if you went to church? And the preacher was just tripping balls on shrooms. And almost every religion or has some type of thing. In Germany, he was known as Sinterklaus. I mean, it goes way back. And you guys, the whole imagery, and again, ask yourself the question, and throw it up there, but ask yourself the question,
Starting point is 00:31:35 this is what I was doing was, again, you know, I wanted to know the truth. And this is what it goes back down to. A simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple simple Punch's Pilots, someone who actually asked Jesus he said what is truth? Are you amazed her has been a rapper that came around named Punches pilot? Like if there's ever a name for a rapper that'd be perfect. Hey, throw it out there Sam gets rights for that if anybody wants to put out the universe. But what is truth? What is a a a a the the true. true. true. the true. the true. true. the true. the true. their true. true. their true. true. true. th. true. th. th. th. th. th. true. true. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tr, tr, true is is is tr. true. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. the. th. th. th. the. to claim that. Put out to the universe. Right out there. But what is truth? Honestly, what is true? I do, that's all I ever wanted.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I don't want to lie. I don't want to live pie in the sky. And you guys, I can tell you this right here. I have never ever been a pie in the sky thing. If you can anybody can show me anything else that shows me where I'm you know wrong about something I will change it I will change it tomorrow I am not tied to any thing other than what I know to be truth. Well Tony and I totally respect that and that that's great so I want what I want the reason I and I want to get to what I brought you on to. So you get religious, you and your brother get religious, and at some point, mom is asking if you want to have something to drink.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Do you want something? Mom say hi to everybody on my ponds. Hi, this is Sammy's mom saying hello. Thank you, please. Please, thank you. Mrs. B's best. So Den. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Don't mind us for podcasting, mom. I'm professional. Can I have a water too, mom? Yeah. So, so Den joins a band. Yeah. Who is in this band? Because I want to get into what this represents. Yeah, yeah, gotcha. Who's in the band? So, a couple guys.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You have to say their names. Yeah, no, a couple guys that he had met from, you know, from the, from the area who, you know, had a small recording studio. He's in a band. The band he was in was this small recording studio. He doesn't, at the time, the band he was in was just the high school kids that we know, Clint Bush, Chris Nage, Jeff White, Den and Sean. That's the band. And I'm telling you, the different... The best way I describe all them is your, any white lion music video, the hair, the flowing hair.
Starting point is 00:34:05 At the time. White Snake. Here I go again. This is it in all truthfulness though, this was honestly. This was at the same time though that, you know, I hate to use the term because it wasn't at the time. But grunge was flourishing. And the music. Yeah, and this was their, this was the was yeah and this was their this was their new place this was their new like you know the music that they were doing at the time
Starting point is 00:34:31 which I'm telling you in an alternate universe these guys blew up because some of the stuff they were doing was crazy progressive even for the time but so but the guys that they met at the recording studio they actually became bandmates with a few short years th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the thi thi thi the-m. the-I the' their the' their their their the. their their their their the the the the the the the th. th. th. th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the their th but the guys that they met at the recording studio, they actually became bandmates with a few short years later. It was these bandmates that actually proposed a question to Den the same one he proposed to me. And then, so yeah, so that's where, that's kind of where they end up. And the reason I bring you on is because they sing a song, I go to you guys do a concert, right, outside their house? You bring me to a concert?
Starting point is 00:35:07 Did you go to that? I guess I did. You were there? Yeah. Wow. And in the song, and what year do you think that was, court sonographer? It was probably 97. OK, so 96, 97, I go there. And they do a song, and involves, and it it involves, and it involves, and it involves, and it involves, and it involves, and it involves, and it, and it involves, and th, and toe, and toe, too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I thi?? I thi? I thi, tho, tho, tho, tho. thoooooooo, thooooo. I thoooo. I too. to to to to to to tho, I go there, and they do a song,
Starting point is 00:35:26 and involves two towers falling. Am I right on this? That is something that, I'm trying to think of the song. But what was it real though? What, the song? Did it involve talking about two towers falling in 1996? I think that what you're referring to is in between, the the the the the the the the the the the song, the the to, to, to, the to, to, the to, the the to, the the the the the to, the the the the the the the the the towar, towar, the towar, toware, towar, towar, towar, towar, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, towa, towa, towar, towa, towar, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, towa, t about two towers falling in 1996? I think that what you're referring to is in between each song, the lead singer stopped and talked about a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And one of the things he talked about was essentially the collapse of the American society as we know it. And one of the main points of that was the collapse or not collapse but the destruction of New York City and the Towers. So I think that's what you remembered. That was 96. But you know we'd already had the, you know, the bombing, you know, in the basement of the World Trade Center had already happened.
Starting point is 00:36:18 So even at that point time, I don't think that that's anything, you know, huge for somebody to think that. I mean, there's, I saw tons of album covers where people showed, you know, stuff like that happening. So, you know that there's actually, there's a, there is, and I forget the word, Ryan would kill me my co-host right now if I couldn't remember the word, but actually that there's, when a vet is so big, when is so big, when is so big, when is so big, when a that is so big, when a that is so big, when a that is so big, that is so big, that is so big, that is so big, that is so big, that is so big, that is so big, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi.. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,'s there's an event when a vet is so big so big it ripples in time forwards and backwards so you see stuff from like decades before referencing these things and the the 9-11s attacks could fall on that we did a whole episode of all these images that were that kind of brought out
Starting point is 00:37:04 Simpsons are very famous record labels. A gentleman who died in the towers made us a kind of a statue of himself of planes hitting him like he was a building. Yeah. Wow. I will look up that name. That is some crazy stuff though and I actually love talking about how this, you know, time travel. That's all I'm all fascinated stuff. Yeah, I'm in time travel. But. But. But. But. But. But the th. But th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. the the th. th. the the th. the th. the th. th. th. thi. the the th. th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the you know, time travel, ripples in time. That's all, I'm all fascinated stuff. Yeah, I'm in time travel. But these are big quantum leap fans from back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you started, you know, Tony, just to be honest with you, I always knew when I came back, we would have a moment where you'd try to give me the pitch. There's gonna be a pitch, you're gonna pitch me on your thoughts and you believes and I would gently and kindly pass and then we would
Starting point is 00:37:50 always move on. And it was never, you never push and you were always my argument on why like I, about respecting people's beliefs in their stuff and if they don't believe what you, we'd still be cool. I always talked about you, you were always very religious, Christian, and but you were kind of laid back and you were like, you know, there are things I think you and I have moments of talk and you're like, okay, that's just nice, and we'd always move on. Well, I'm definitely not the, well, the go, the go stand, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, to go, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that business. That's not, that is not the point.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Hey, you know, you cast the net and if, you know, the fish come into the net, then you know, that's, that's what it, and you know, that's, it's a great, it's a great analogy because it's not, it's not the type of thing where, and you have to understand, and anybody who actually understands the Bible, and I understand, I have people, I have friends who believe that they need to save you right now in this lifetime, you need to be saved, Sam, because if not, you're gone forever. Right. Okay. That couldn't be farther from what the God of the Bible says. And if you believe that, that is fine, that is your right to believe that, but I would challenge anybody who believes that they
Starting point is 00:39:08 need to go save people right now so that person is not lost, right? Then you need to do a little more research. Well then what I want to talk to you about El Dorado is that a long time ago you kind of goes, here he's what's going to happen. Okay, here is in the future what is going to happen. I don't know the date you tell me this, but the exact date, and I don't even know what the court snogger will remember because it wasn't a set time. But you told, you foretold of the European Union, how it was going to come together and all that stuff. And then you forecasted some other stuff, which is the big reason.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Not only I want to get into your journey and stuff like that, but it's just like, what do you see happening? Because I find that interesting. And you know, so, and you know, this is a, this is such a huge huge topic and you know honestly we could do about 25 of these podcast salmon not even toucest the surface on all this and so you know we're skipping forward a little bit in time but one of the aspects that you know my faith you know one of the parts it was a big part of it was understanding
Starting point is 00:40:27 What the Bible said about the future now Most people don't know this but approximately a quarter to a third of the Bible is is prophecy And so I knew that people dropped their drawers over no? No stradamus. Yeah people go crazy. Okay, and a guy is like, you know, like two for eight billion, okay? But, so my point in the, getting into the bioprophacy was to understand too, again, about what does Bible prophecy say because if it's not, hasn't come true or not coming true then it doesn't hold water and throw the whole book out honestly because if it's wrong on one point it could be wrong on another and another and another we just had a big we just put out an episode just the day before we record this Q
Starting point is 00:41:20 Anonymous again with our friend of the praying medic Medic, and within the community, Q-Anonymous is this guy who puts out breadcrumbs and tells you kind of what's going on behind the scenes and everybody really loves him. He's been right on a lot of stuff, not just like, not stuff that you could, like if you were, you knew where to go Google, you could find out information before everybody else, but write on weird stuff about like, you, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, thut, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, q, q.q, q.q, q.q, q.q, the, the, thu.q, thu.q, thu.q, the, the, the, the, knew where to go Google, you could find out information before everybody else, but right on weird stuff about like, you know, Clinton's fire at their house or a, you know, a train crash that, like how would you know that? Like weird stuff, but he's been wrong on stuff or stuff he said was going to happen,
Starting point is 00:42:00 so, but batting a thousand in the in the psychic world could be a little hard. Absolutely. Because even the prediction could change the outcome. That's true. You're right. You're right. And that kind gets into this whole like time travel thing too which I think I solved the grandfather paradox too that might be a discussion for a different time. But I'll get into that. We'll that kind kind that kind that kind that's that's that's that's that's that's just that's just that's just that's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just that's just just that's just that's just that's just th. that's just th. that's just th. thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's just that's just that's just th. that's just that's just that's just that's just thi. that's just that's just thi. that's just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thi. thi. the. thi. the. thi. th I solved the grandfather paradox too. That might be a discussion for a different time, but... I'll get into that. We'll talk about that another time. But that's just my own theory. But anyway, so the part that we were talking about was the, you know, getting into Bible prophecy. And so the, the, and I'm trying, I'm trying to give the kind of this short version here of it, but
Starting point is 00:42:45 the part about the world empires, and you'd have to go into the book of Daniel and look at this, and if nobody's actually gone and read it, you know, going and read it, because it talks about a great statue, that Daniel sees this vision of a great statue and he see I'm sorry I can't but I just said that my bet nebikineser has a dream of this statue and Daniel is one of the he was taken captive he was a Jew living in living in Babylon they had already been taken captive but he he is a very learned man, so he's living there basically as one of the wise men in the court of Nebuchadnezzar. So Nebuchadnezzar has this dream about this great statue.
Starting point is 00:43:35 All right. All right. Nobody can interpret it. And it's Daniel, who is the one who has been given a gift by God to interpret dreams as he, as they happen. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, the, the, the, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, gift by God to interpret dreams as they happen. So, he tells, so this is the image that King Nebuchadnezzar sees of this great statue, this great man. All right, the head is of gold, the chest is of silver, the thigh is of bronze, and the legs are iron with the feet mixed with iron and clay.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Okay, and the Bible interprets itself. This is no other thing. So if you actually keep reading into it, you read and it's at the end of that chapter, it tells Nebekhnezzar, your kingdom, you are the head of gold. So the Babylonian empire is the head of gold that happens. And after the head of gold, after the Babylonian empire,
Starting point is 00:44:26 is going to come in this area, this chest of silver, okay, this chest of silver, which is the Medes-Persian Empire. Okay. And so this happens. So this happens. The waste of gold that occur, I'm sorry, my bad, the waste of bronze age, everybody knows the waste of gold that occur, I'm sorry, my bad, the waste of bronze that occurs, and everybody knows the bronze age, right?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Everybody knows the bronze age. No, tell me about it. Greece, Alexander the great, Greece comes in after the Persians, okay? And then who conquers Greece? Rome. Rome. Everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Rome is defined as two capitals, okay? One in Constantinople the other in Rome. Those two capitals and the great Roman Empire are symbolized by these two legs of iron and that's what the main thing that the Roman Empire used to conquer is iron, man it's fierce, okay? And so you get down into the toes, the very bottom, the last And so you get down into the toes. The very bottom, the last part of this figure, the toes are iron and clay. The ten toes are representative of a reunited Roman Empire,
Starting point is 00:45:34 and it's iron and clay, it's not strong, it's part strong, part brittle, and it's these 10 nations are gonna comprise a reunited Roman empire. And so anybody who actually has studied Bible the Bible, the Bible, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi is thi is thi is thi is thoes thoes thoes, is thoes, is thoes, is thoes, is thoes, is thoes, is thoes, is is is thoes, is is is is thoes, is is thoes, is is thoes, is is thoes, is thoes, is tow is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes is thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes toes is toes toes toes toes toes toes toes is i toes is toes is toes is toes, is to comprise a reunited Roman Empire. And so anybody who actually studied Bible prophecy and realized that understood that Rome, the European Roman coalition was going to unite again and it's going to be led, it's going to be eventually a 10 nation group. There won't be any of the, Britain won't be in it. It'll be... Okay, so let's... Like you drop as we drive out to Schenectady? Is that
Starting point is 00:46:12 where you're driving through? You were dropping some knowledge on me about... Oh sorry, Skinny Atlas, my apologies. You're dropping knowledge on me about... Yeah. About about the lost tribes of Israel and where this is all going to lead to. Yeah. You know we have about 15 minutes left. So take us through this whole thing because I find it interesting. Yeah and and so say all I love this I love hearing about I could learn even though it's not gonna ever, never say never. Yeah. I'm open mind there's things I believe in that I could learn, even though it's not going to ever, never say never. Yeah. I'm open mind.
Starting point is 00:46:47 There's things I believe in that I would never have believed, believed in before I started this journey. So who knows where this might go? And that's honestly, isn't that, isn't that, you know, you hope for all mankind, is that have an open mind is that, that youn't that, their, their, their, their, their, their, that, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thi, I thi, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a.a. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th anything more valuable on this planet than an open mind in a yielding heart? If you see something not to ignore evidence if it's thrown in your face you just don't have the evidence right now that's fine that's everybody thing. I am going to say if Sam if somebody gave you the evidence would be like no I'm still going to believe this over here. You're going to go where the evidence leads th. That's th. That's th. That's th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is the evidence is th is th is just just just just just is the evidence is just is th is just is the evidence is the evidence is th is th is th is the evidence is th is thi. the evidence is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence is the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. the evidence. I I I I I I I is the evidence. the evidence. the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. to thi. to thi. thi. to thi. the. thi. the. thi. the. thi. the. thi. thi. thi. You're gonna go where the evidence leads you right right that just perfectly fine
Starting point is 00:47:26 So the so the so the so the so the Israel and this is where most people, you know, don't understand the current situation of Who is real is and I'll be honest with you to say this is not even my? You know, this is this is not thi? thi?? thi? thi. thi. thin. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this. this. this. this. this. this. this is, this is this is this is this is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the so the the the the the the the the the the, so the, so the, so the, so the, so they. they. they. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is. this is this is this is this is this is this is this is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the talk about all the time, so I might be a little rusty at this, even the other night we were talking about. I don't get a chance to go out and speak with people and I, like I said, I'm not standing on street corners, somebody wants to listen and talk, so. There's a thrown, and every day, and every day I see that this guy can be here every day? Every day.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, and it's an interesting thing. But so let's get into this. So to understand, to understand the Bible is to understand what Israel is. And because I think we, the Catholic Church, everybody else has done a really awesome job at just saying, you know, oh, just have faith. Just have faith in Jesus. And that's all, that's all, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the that's th. It's th. It's that's thi. It's thi. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. It. It's thi. It's thi. It. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the the the the the the interesting. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. It's all. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. It's all. th. that's all. It's all. It's that's all, oh, just have faith, just have faith in Jesus and that's all, that's all you need. That's all you need to be saved is have faith in Jesus, okay? And that's what it, and that's why they can turn out the, you know, the church school, and never really dig into any Bible study. Never tell you, never have these moments where you, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, their, the, the, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, just, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, justell you, never have these moments where you're actually digging in and you're having, you know, you maybe get, you know, conversation gets a little heated,
Starting point is 00:48:49 you know, you're talking about things, but you know, hey, the truth is hard to find, man, and you're gonna fight for it, and you're gonna dig for it. Sometimes it gets a little heated, tug and you know you come back the next time. So one of the one thing that we need to understand is what the Bible says about Israel. Okay. And to say and I told you the night, these three terms, Hebrew, Israel, Jew. Okay, those things. And to have any type of a grasp on what the Bible says about Bible prophecy or just even in general is to understand what that is. Okay. And so, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. that that the that that that's the Bible is that we that we need. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's is is is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is the Bible says is that's is the Bible says is the Bible says is the Bible is the Bible is the Bible is the Bible is the Bible is the Bible is the Bible is. th. the the the the the Bible says about Bible prophecy or just even in general is to understand what
Starting point is 00:49:25 that is. Okay. And so what we have right now over the Middle East is a nation called Israel. Right. Okay. That nation, Israel has a name Israel, okay, that's fine that they have that name. The tribe of Judah, the tribe of Judah was one of the tribes of Israel. Okay, it was the that have that name. The tribe of Judah, the tribe of Judah was one of the tribes of Israel. Okay, it was one of the tribes of Israel, all right? There was Jacob in the Bible,
Starting point is 00:49:55 his name was changed to Israel. It means overcomer with God and that's what that's what that means. He had 12 children. I'm sorry, he had 12 boys, okay. Each one of those is a tribe. the the trib. trib. trib. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thribes thribes the thribes the th the th the th the th thribes th thribes thribes thribes th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thribes thribes thribes thribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes tribes thribes thribes thribes thribes thib what that that's what that means. He had 12 children Well, I'm sorry he had 12 boys. Okay each one of those is a tribe. Judah was one of those tribes Okay, so at the time of King David. Okay, so at the time of King David. Okay, he has his son Solomon. Okay, some and dies his son rail bomb. Rail bomb. Are you amazed or not rapper name rail bomb? Okay, so? So, but so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so? he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. he. he. He he. He he. He he. He he. He he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he he he he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had he had 12. He had he had he had he had he had he had Railbomb takes over. Railbomb? Railbomb? Are you amazed they're not a rapper name Railbomb? So here's what this is though. Railbomb has a decision to make after Solomon dies because Solomon's taxed a crap out of Israel to build the temple. to build the temple.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah, kind of like Vegas is doing with the Raiders Stadium right now. Exactly. Right, they're putting taxes on people staying there so they can build this giant league. So they, the giant football stadium. So the tribes come to Railbomb and say, loosen this burden from us. So Railbomb goes back and talks with two sets of people. The older group that advises Father Solomon and this younger group that has been brought up with him as friends. All right, and the older group says, release the burden off the people, they'll follow you, the temple's built, and he goes, and so you, okay, that's great, I'm going to go to my young friends. What do his young friends tell him?'t do it it it'll be shown as a sign of weakness they'll take you over
Starting point is 00:51:27 tell them you'll make it even harder for them they should love it they had so forced labor eh you know keep going with it all right so who's advice does he take the old wise guys or the or his old buddies he takes the advice of his buddy so he he says my little he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he he's he he's he he's he he's he he hee. hee. He's hee is hee. He's hee. He's hee. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he he he he he t. He's t. He's t. He's t. He's t. He's tot tot tot t. He's tot tot tot tb tb-he's tb-he tb-he he he he he takes the advice of his buddy. So he tells people, he says, my little finger is thickered my father's waist, meaning that you thought, he, you know, he's telling you a whip so I'm gonna sting you with scorpions and he puts it on. And so they say, see you later. Ten of the 12 tribes take off, head up north. Road to Samaria and become the house of Israel with its capital and Samaria. Two tribes stay with Rayobal. We got Judah who is from that tribe, so Judah stays with him, Benjamin, so we got two
Starting point is 00:52:14 tribes, and the Levites are the priests and they're kind of mixed in between the two. All right. So the kingdom splits. So now we've got the southern kingdom Judah Judah with Israel with with, the northern kingdom Israel with its capital in Samaria. Okay, it's what we talked about the other night. Looking back through history of world history, history of the Bible, the Assyrian empire or the Assyrians come in, sack the Israelites up north, take them captive.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They are not brought back. And if you guys, go in and read this, and the people don't talk about, you know, oh, we're the Jews, we're the Israelites, we're God's chosen people. Look at the plight of God's people. Look at what happened to the Israelites. He allowed them to be annihilated and lost into captivity.
Starting point is 00:53:03 So you know what, it's it it it it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's their it's their their their their, it's their, it's their, their, their, their, their,'s hard being the it's hard being the child Okay, right? It is hard being the child. So they are taking captive. They're out of there Their identity is lost. They became known as the lost tribes of Israel So those two just to two. I'm sorry. This is up north. So this is the 10 tribes? the 10 tribes have been thrown into captivity? Okay, 10 tribe? So tries. So tries. tries. tries. the. the. the. the the. the. the the. the the. the the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their their the 10. the. It is the 10 the 10 the 10 the 10. It is the 10. It is the 10. It is the 10. It is their. It is their. It is their. It is the. It is the. It is the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. So the. It is trie. It is the. It is trie. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is the. It is tribes have been thrown into captivity? Okay, all that. So Judah is still in existence, with his capital in Jerusalem, made up of the tribe of Judah and the tribe of Benjamin with some of the Levites mixed in. Okay, now, it is the Babylonian empire in 585. This we were just talking about Daniels there. They are taken captive by the Babylonians. same typetype type type type type type type type type type tribi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thee. thei. thee. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. taking captive by the Babylonians. Same type of thing.
Starting point is 00:53:45 God allows them to actually be brought back, and it's brought back by the Persian king, I believe it's Cyrus. the wall. The wall's destroyed, the temple's destroyed. Everything is just a mess. They go back and rebuild it. Okay, it's a 585. So they are not lost to history. They're there. Okay. So, interesting enough, then enough enough enough enough enough enough enough enough. By thiiiiiiiiiiiiii. that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that that that that tho tho that that that that tho tho thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes th. God th. God th. God th. God th. God tho th. God tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. God thi. God thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. So they are not lost to history. They're there. Okay, so interesting enough, by the time that you read in the Bible, the parable, and everybody knows it's the parable of the Good Samaritan, we all love that, right? The Good Samaritan. I just told you a second ago. Samaria used to be Israel. It was the capital. That was Israel. By the time of Jesus, a Samaritan. pagan. Okay, it's not an Israelite. And is it because when Assyria sacks Samaria, they repopulate that whole area with basically pagan. It's not a bad word, just mean somebody that's not of that particular group of people. Yeah. Okay. So that's a good Samaritan, that's that parable is that it's not somebody that's an Israelite, meaning that, you know, who's, who's, who's, who's, who's a who's a who's a who's a who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a their, who's a the, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is......... the, the, the, is.. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. their. their, is, is, is, their, their, their, their, is. their, their, is. their, their, is. their. their. their. their. the the the parable is is is that It's not somebody that's an Israelite meaning that you know who's you know who's a better I don't know if anybody knows that parable if you want to get into it, but it's actually it's actually really good one
Starting point is 00:54:52 But anyway, so so we're so we're talking about this right now. So what's there at the time of Jesus? Right. Okay, now the name is? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the time is is is is is is is is is.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.a.a.ea.a.a.a.a.a.ea.ea. time. ta. I is. I's the the the house of Judah? Okay? Now the name Israel is actually not Reapplied to that and I believe a phenomenal mistake I guess I'm a little rusty at this goes back to the six day war in In 1948 in that range with Israel, I might be terrible on this. I'm terrible on that part of it right there but after World War II. The name comes back to Israel okay and it comes back and it's and it's so what we know is Israel today are only two of the 12 tribes of Israel. The other tribes are lost to humanity but they existed and they moved and they transported. It was the Syrians, they deported them,
Starting point is 00:55:48 they migrated up into the Northwest British Isles up into that place, they settled places. God did not lose them. And he actually, there's actually prophecy in the Bible about actually bringing them back after a certain period of time. About bringing them back into world dominance. And it was actually Ifram and Manasa. The tribe of Joseph, Joseph was one of the 12 tribes of Israel,
Starting point is 00:56:14 got split into a double portion of Ifram and Manasa. And you look back at Jacob's prophecy and his blessing that he gives on his child, his child, Joseph on their children. Yeah. It's a crazy, great prophecy what happens. Hold on, so I just, because I won't focus on real quick. You guys getting all this? I'm trying, the listeners are smart than I.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Yeah. That's the whole thing in this show. So I take my, I've flung first grade mentality and try to... It was a six-day war I need to. Anyway. We'll look it up. We'll look it up. You got a phone there. Go ahead. Listen. So these two tribes escape. So the 10 tribes they get thrown into... Anonymity. Anonymity. Yeah. They get repopulated. That means they they start smashing and putting out little pagans. Right? These two tribes disappear. Well, actually, Sam, hold on, what you're saying right there, though, is, I think you just said they start putting out a little pagan.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Not to that respect, meaning they were displaced, and they moved and they were thrown out of their home, but they stayed together. OK. stayed together. Okay. Yeah, okay. Go ahead. Which is the whole point of the when you talk to people who are deeply religious and the argument on Israel is that they were kicked out of their land and they're coming, they came back and got it. Yeah. So that's what, that's what that is about. Okay. So when they were repopulated with, with pagans you mean they were kicked out and pagans moved in. Yeah into us yeah into there wasn't a mixing up it was like some interracial crazy stuff. When the Assyrians sacked the House of Israel and took over
Starting point is 00:57:53 Somalia they repopulated it with all them people. Get out of and that was a common practice back then when you sack a place you deport those people and you what's going on right now in Israel. Exactly we'll get into that. So. So. So. So. So the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. they. they. their. their. their. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And the the they. And. now in Israel. Exactly. We'll get into that. So then these other two tribes, and nobody knows about that these two tribes out of the 12 is it 12 or 10? 12 tribes. Twelve tribes, two of them disappear. They go to the northeast British Isles. So just to correct that were stayed.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's the majority of the tribes are lost. It's the 10 that are lost. They're the ones who get deported. They're, and they migrate. They go to England? They migrate into the Northwest British Isles. Yes. Is that what you're telling me? Okay. And become the tribe of Dan
Starting point is 00:58:46 becomes, eventually becomes the name, it's actually it's funny because the Bible describes Dan as this like serpent's trail and like leaving their mark and you look at how many places over there, the D. N. There's the Danube, there's Denmark, there's all these places. So the tribe of Dan actually leaves its mark and you can see it all throughout there. So Denmark is in most likelihood the tribe of Dan. Yeah. So, and again, the people that we know later on to become the Vikings are more than likely these lost tribes of Israel. So, that's an interesting story
Starting point is 00:59:25 too. But England is kind of a little bit later on forms and again so here's the here's the interesting part about this. That when Jacob gives his blessing to his two grandchildren, Ifram and Manasa, okay? Jacob's son is Joseph, one of the 12 tribes. Joseph gets his double portion with his two kids. Jacob gives a very specific blessing to these two kids. One is going to become a great company of nations. Going to become a huge, you know, great, is, you know, to the point in time where it's, you know, you can become a question. You can become a Commonwealth. Are these names Dan? These people? Are they literal
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Starting point is 01:00:33 That's right. you know 1500 BC somewhere. I would be weird if it was one guy and you just got everybody pregnant and started his own village. Yeah so but if I'm in Manasa one is going to become a great company of nations the other one is you can become a great single nation but the point in time that they're the point in time that they're taken into captivity and they're become the lost tribes this this promise is going to be withheld for a a a a a a a certain period the certain period the certain period the the the to a to a to a to a the to a the to the to the to be a the the the the to be. the the the the the to be. the to be. the to be. to be. the the the the the to be. to be. to be. the the their. their. their. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. te. te. te. te. te. te. the te. the the the the the the the the the the their their their their taken into captivity and they're become the lost tribes, this this promises is going to be withheld for a certain period of time. Okay. All right now here we go. Get into this very specific thing and this is crazy Bible prophecy stuff. I haven't spoken about this in a while. All right. I love it. Okay. The, um, the punishment, the punishment of time that is going to be withheld where, so if
Starting point is 01:01:30 the menasa won't receive these blessings for a certain period of time is referred to as seven, it's a period called seven times. Now anybody who knows the Bible understands that a time is a year. Look in the book of Revelation a time, time, time and half a time, that's time is a year. Look in the book of Revelation, a time, time, and half a time, a time, times and half of times is three and a half years. So a time is a year, okay? So it's a very specific period of time that happens.
Starting point is 01:01:57 All right. All right. So, you're going to glance over this a little quickly. The length of time for this day for a year principle that we have of punishment, okay? The length of period of time they're going to be withheld is about 2,500 years, is about 2,500 years from about 7-something BC, 2,500 years. So, roughly the year 1,800, okay, right on cue, right where they migrated to, Britain becomes this world empire, the sun never set on the British empire. That's what, they're a commonwealth of nation, meaning that they had possessions all over
Starting point is 01:02:36 this whole planet, so much so that the sun never set on the British empire. Yeah, because they had, they had territory all over the world. That's right. The United States flees out of Britain, gets its independence from it, becomes a great single nation. What I'm saying is that the United States and Britain are part of the lost tribes of Israel. And this connection that the United States and Britain have with Israel, because we're brothers. So interesting, Tony. And this is the good shit.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And this stuff I find this so interesting I could listen to this. So because we only got because I know you got so today's a very special day for you so you've been kind enough to take time we're a little over an hour so good stuff buddy I love it but let's get into so we got we got we got Israel we got we got Israel we got we got England and we got the United States at one team. You're telling me that the opposite team is Germany. If you look at what the Bible says about those ten toes that we talked about earlier and about the reunification of
Starting point is 01:03:50 that the that the time and again this is not the this is not your fluffy fluff stuff that that people talk about little baby Jesus in a manger. This is some serious stuff right here. This is what we this is a good stuff that right here. That's what we, this is the good stuff. That the good, we're mainline in this stuff. That the time of the tribulation, at the time of the end, is the time of Jacob's trouble. It is not the time of Judah's trouble. It's the time of Jacob's name was changed to Israel. And so the United's, yeah, Jacob's name was changed to Israel.
Starting point is 01:04:26 So the brothers, the tribes, they're all gonna come back. The United States and Britain, the Britain will not be part of the European Union in the long run. They will not be, they might be, for a little period that, they will not be, they're gonna be on the outside of it. Okay? Which is happening, Brexit right now. This is going, and this is, hey, I've been saying the same thing since 94. Before there was ever a European Union, we were calling it the United States of Europe because we just knew Europe would be united somehow and, you know, became known as the European Union.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Watch for the military component of the European Union. It's now going. It will come. Now, just so everybody knows, Tony is not just saying this because it's been the news. He literally told me so much of this. I want to say 15 years ago, if not 20. 20. So you were telling me this, that's why I wanted to this podcast. We're going to get into it. I know you got to get going, but. So you told me a long time time time time time time time ti ti ti thime thime thime thime ago thime ago thime ago thime ago thime ago thime ago thime ago thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. this. thi. tho. this. this. this. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this. this. this. th. th. th. th. the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the wanted this this podcast. We're gonna get into I know you got to get going but so you told me a long time ago That there would be and way before the European Union was gonna happen. You said Europe will unite under one union Yeah, and they will? Basically kind of start like not control what what's the word I'm looking for with Israel? Step in and can intervene? Yes what there will? What in Israel? Yes, in in Israel? What's in?? the? the? the? the? the? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? th? th? th? th? th? the European? the European? th? th? th? th? th? the the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the European? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? the? what's the word I'm looking for with Israel step in and can intervene yes what in Israel the European Union so the yeah and and that and the leader of the European Union the leader of the European Union eventually and you guys who knows how many years is off I'm not gonna
Starting point is 01:06:01 see here and say oh this is gonna happen and you-23. Anybody who wants to put dates on it honestly can you know, it's just it's a slippery slope. All I know is that this is a slop. All I know is that this is what's coming. All I know is that this is what's coming. All I know is the European Union that causes the time of Jacobibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibs the the th. th. th. th. thi i thi. thi. thi. thi. this is is is this is wi. thi. this is this is is this is this is this is wi. Whether it's wi. Whether it's wi. Whether it's wi. this is what this is what it's this is what it's this is what it's this is what it's this is what it's this is what it's w th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th that this is what's coming and it will be the European Union that causes the time of Jacob's trouble and it describes very clearly not a great scenario for Jacob. And remember I'm telling you we are Jacob. So now you're telling me something that Europe and Germany will wipe England? Lay waste. Now, lay waste to the United States?
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Starting point is 01:06:57 There's slavery going on right now. Oh, for sure. I'm sure your listeners are aware. For sure, we talk about it all the talk. So you don't think that stuff, people don't think that stuff can happen. Listen, I get it, this isn't think something better. And people want to get into this whole thing. If there's a God, why does he let so much bad stuff happen? Well, you know what? Listen to me. How many parents are out there? You get, you understand. You cannot force your kids? You want to try to force your kids. You're going to get as soon as they hit 18, they're going to say, after you're going to say, after......... If their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, listen. to, listen. to, listen. to, listen. to, listen. to, listen. to, listen. to, listen. their, listen. their, listen. How. How. How, listen. How. How. How, listen. How. How, listen. How. How. How, listen. How. How. How, listen. How, their, their, their. How. How. How. How. How. How. How, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their. to, their. to, to, how many. their. How many. How many. How many. How many. to, how many. How many. their their their the. The only thing you can do is give them the tools as a child to then grow up and follow the
Starting point is 01:07:48 right way. And you know what, but you can't force it. You can't force it. And God has the same way. He's giving us the tools, to be going out there and do the right thing, and to be the the type of people you want, but he's not cramming it down anybody's throat. He gives you free will and free reign, and if you decide to walk the other way, that is your choice. So I'm fine with that. Every and that's a thing. You don't need to be saved right now. This is this whole thing that people are trying to, I got to save you, Sam. There's a rapture. If I believe, I the rapture, if I th, if I th, if I the rapture, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I th, if I thu, if I thi, if I that, if I thi, if you the that, thi, and I thi, and if thi, and if thi, and if you thi, and if you the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, and if, and if th, and if th, and if th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, throooan, that, that, throan, that, that, that, that, that, their,? Is this involved? The rapture at all. I always think this Israel stuff isn't about. What do you think the rapture is?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Let's start there. I have no clue. But my whole point is that I've never thought that Israel was about whose land it was. I felt and no disrespect to anybody. But when you have these crazy tel evangelists shipping Jews to Israel, like they've won like contests, they get a free vacation in Israel, and they're trying to bring on the Rapture,
Starting point is 01:08:51 which is the end of days, on the 500 years of darkness. And like everybody thinks it's gonna be like Marty Gron. It's like, it's like, it's gonna be chaos. Yes. So the, you know, the rapture, I guess, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I the th, I th, I they th, I th, they're, they're, they're, the you know the rapture I guess the majority of people have come to you know known the rapture as you know the removing of of certain people off the planet and it's a and it's a very and it's a it's from God and and what that says and specifically. And what that says and specifically is that, you know, that there would be a place of safety that during this time of the end that God does take his part of part of his
Starting point is 01:09:39 church into as a place of safety because it will be so bad here. And if you look, there's also, you can look in the book of revelation on at the Leodosian Church, okay, there's a lot of God's people that are left here, they're going to face the wrath of the, basically the world, the soon coming world power and that are going to get annihilated. So- It's going to be the world power? EU? The European Union. And the Union. And the Union. And the the European the European. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the thoanananananan. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the world, the soon coming world power and that are going to get, you know, annihilated. So, it's going to be the world power? EU? The European Union. And the United States falls the wayside.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yep. God, dang it, El Dorado. But you know, like I said, again, you know, this is part of the, this is part of the, this is part of the thing, th..... th. th. This is part, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, the, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there's so much good, but listen, don't think for a moment, and if you actually go and read the Bible, don't think for a moment that this is not stuff that Jesus was talking about. Jesus, people think of it's all warm and fuzzy and you know, look at the little kids and this, look at what he, go read the red words of your Bible., not mine. I didn't come to bring peace. I can't bring a sword, and what is it? So this is good stuff, buddy. I wanted to get in flat earth with you
Starting point is 01:10:51 because you don't believe in flat earth. I can just say this real quick about flat earth. And I said this to say this. I just want you to havethink I see the evidence. Isaiah 54 says that God sits on the circle of the earth, and I always use that passage as showing the knowledge that's in the Bible and they thought the earth was flat. The Bible is telling you that it's round,
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Starting point is 01:12:36 Let me ask you something, El Dorado. There's true. We did something on something called the Black Sun, which is very interesting. I have found that these masters of mankind over a very long time have attempted to control emotions in particular empathy, having empathy for others. When we look at feminism, what is feminism right now? Feminism in this modern age is very much and I have no problems with women women should be treated equal it's all love equal opportunity equal rights every so don't take that as I'm anti-feminist because I'm not yeah I believe all should be treated the same absolutely
Starting point is 01:13:19 that is my opinion that's actually one of the big knocks in the Bible is they think that it's it's so sexist yeah or whatever let me just say this keep going that's not that's that that that that that th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the thi the. theat, the. the. the. the, the, the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the the that's actually one of the big knocks in the Bible is they think that it's so sexist or whatever. Let me just say this. But yeah, keep going. That's not true. That what we go through this, and this isn't trying to challenge or just something we discuss on the show, which is that the divine feminine has been demonized, that is empathy and love for others, and that feminism has been hijacked and made into women thinking they have to be men, and do man stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:13:52 And that when you look at what the anti-christ would be, if you think Christ is, you know, you know, God in heaven, what is the anti-that? Which would a guy in heaven would would be a woman in earth. Oh, yeah, I got you know, which would be mother-. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. the, th. th. th. th. the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, which would, a guy in heaven would be a woman in earth. Oh yeah, I got you. You know, which would be mother earth. Yeah. Like, and there's this, this, this hatred of the love of nature and the, the treating kindness to others and loving nature and loving all around you and how the people have kind of demonized that and these masses of mankind have actually put drugs. There's chemicals in over 600 different things you buy over the counter, chemicals within those over the counter drugs
Starting point is 01:14:33 that blocks empathy. Yeah. So when you see people go, oh look at that bum right there. Man, what'd you get a job, dude? There's no like, yeah. What happened to that guy? Why is he there? Hey dude, here's five bucks We just had this conversation this morning. Yeah, here's five bucks man Yeah, it's not big deal to me five bucks man. I hope you there but the grace of God go I yeah, you know You know my struggles in my life there, but for the grace of God go on your thoughts? Your thoughts on that? No, well, the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, th. th. th. thi. their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, th. Yeah, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, it's, it's, th. Yeah, it, it, it, it, th. Yeah, it, it, th. Yeah, it, th. Yeah, it, th. Yeah, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's th. Yeah, it's th. Yeah, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, th. th. th first of all I I just had that conversation this morning about you know
Starting point is 01:15:07 What it what it means to do good and what you just said right there is you know It's Matthew 25 we were reading this morning, and it's about you know feeding the people don't feed the people don't Feeding the people don't thea? thea. I as far as the the, the, thea, th, th, the, the the the the the thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the thea' theat. the theat, the theat, the the theat, theat they theat, theat, the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi. thi. the thi. thi. they they they they they they they they they they they thin, thin, thin, thin, the thee theeeeean, thean, thean, thea. thea. thea. thea. the goes that you said right there about, you know, the women aspect of it is that they are complete and 100% equals with us in the point that really matters the most, which is in God's eyes and as far as salvation. Okay, people don't understand. They think that it's bad that somehow or other, that God created a man and a woman or they think that's impossible that that did that because, you know what, it's okay. Women have so many other better qualities than men do, so what, men are physically stronger? Who gives a rat's behind when it goes to that? But you know what? We shouldn't be making men, the the the the the the thiiiiiii. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, I, I thi. thi. that, I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, that, that, that, thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi. theeean, thi. thi. th's behind when it goes to that? But you know what? We shouldn't be making men into women or women into men and I'm not in any way, shape
Starting point is 01:16:11 or form, you know, anti, any of the movements that are out there. The only thing I know is that what's going to destroy this planet quicker in anything is the word hate. So if you hate anybody or anything, you got to get rid of it from your life. And if you think one simple thing, and maybe we'll leave this whole conversation with this. Okay, perfect. Okay, is keep that looking glass turned in on yourself, okay? And until you're a perfect person, a perfect individual, keep focusing on how you can make yourself better. If you're out in the street corner, hang up signs that said God hates fags and all this stuff right there,
Starting point is 01:16:48 you are not a good person. I agree with that. Okay? And so, and you know what, you have little knowledge of who God is, and you are not a spokesman for that loving, just and true God. You are not. You are a false individual, and I call you out for it. Keep the looking glass turned in. See how you can better yourself. People, Jesus didn't do away with the Ten Commandments. He made him harder.
Starting point is 01:17:11 He said it's not just about committing adultery. It's about looking at another married woman and have love. It's not about murder, it's about the actual act of murder. It's about hate. It's about the spirit of murder. He made it harder. He made it a spiritual law, not just a physical law, until you stop breathing, I didn't kill you. No, I can be killing you through my hate. And this is what, this is what people, keep the looking glass turned in and until you're perfect, don't you don't have any way, shape or form to go out and say where other people are doing wrong. Tony, this is crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy th is crazy thiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to you to you to you to you to you to to you to to to to to to to to to th. th. to th. to thi. thi. thi. thi. the. to toe. the. te. the. tell, the. tooooooooooooooooo. to to to to to to to form to go out and say where other people are doing wrong. Tony, this is crazy. Have you ever done a podcast before? I have not. You crushed it. You did great. You're a natural at it. You should do more of this, dude. I think you'd really enjoy it. It was fun. It was
Starting point is 01:17:51 fun. I think you'd enjoy it. It was fun. I think it was fun. I think they'd enjoy it. I t enjoy, I hope you understand that even though you may not have the religious beliefs of Tony, that you could listen to him, what he believes. And I just love to hear what everybody has to say. I love to, like we've had people on that say we're the descendants of Anunakis and the space people and I love to listen to it. Everyone's like, oh, why don't you, it's like, it's not about debating. their, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I love, I thi, I th. I th. I to listen, I to, I to, I just, I to, I to, I th. I to, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th th th th th th th th that th that th that that, I just that, I just that, I just that, I just's not about debating. It's about what do you think? And I want to hear it. And what I like of it, I will take with me and I'll be like, okay, that's not for me. And that's fine. This isn't about right and wrong. This is about El Dorado, what his thoughts are. I'm going to tell you man, the guy predicted stuff a long time ago and say whatever you want. It's the truth and that's why I had them on and you were great on it. And I really appreciate you spending an hour on it because it's a holiday right now, right? Actually tonight at sundown starts Pentecost which is one of the seven holidays mentioned
Starting point is 01:18:59 in the Bible. So Pentecost, today's just a weekly Sabbath. Well, I'm thankful that you took a little time to come down. I love you very much, Tony. You're all my favorite people on the planet. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I hope I will do this again. You want to come on? We'll have you to talk about say to everybody? Bye. Be nice to everyone. All right, we love you.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Take care, everybody. This is B. Life is more than paper skin and more than paper planes. I think I might be going slightly insane. I find the truth in the evidence. the truth in the evidence. See the strings behind president. the bodies in lockers they try to lock up up up up up up up up up the evidence. See the strings behind president. Seen the bodies and lockers, they try to lock up the evidence.
Starting point is 01:19:45 No fingerprints are cleaning up nicely. I got high intelligence. I'm chilling at Langley like the CIA, boy. Where'd you get those sneakers? I'm trying to infiltrate the protest to monitor the public speakers. I can sway the radio. I own all the studios. a sex symbol I can leak a video. I run pharmaceuticals, I invented cubicles, I got you stressed out and you're picking at your cuticles. Fingers are bleeding, the title's misleading, I'm churning
Starting point is 01:20:11 the stories and the papers you're reading. I blackmail the Congress, I edit the Bible, I'll force you to fight me in court over libel. I wear a lapel pin, I look so official. I'm bombing your children and building a missile. I swear I protect I protect the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha tha their their their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoicicuiceauicea' thoiculeoucule. I'm thoicic. I'm their their their their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckleauicea. I'm teateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateatheauiauiauiauiauiaeathea. I'm bombing your children and building a missile. I swear I protect you. Yeah, this is for your good. Now help me deliver this dope up to your hood. So don't say what you want about me. You should just shut your mouth around me. So don't say what you want about me. You should just shut your mouth around me. Let me dose you. Close to the edge feels like God's son.
Starting point is 01:20:55 I'll push you out a window like they call you Frank Olson. Let me test you. Qualified for M.K. Ultra. Circle in the wreckage like a flock full of vultures. Tend to your wounds, because the country is bleeding. I got ideas that'll shortly be seeding. Pushing the grass like a forced revolution. I'll fight global warming while funding pollution. I swear I've got the tiniest violin.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Why behave if we all are born Edison. You'll never catch me by the hairs on my chin. step in line, you are just a fucking a the black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black the the their. the their. their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. their by the hairs on my chitin' chin. Step in line, you are just a fucking citizen. Black suits, black ties, black sights, black projects. I won't tell you about the unidentified flying objects. My name is Nanya, none of your business. Stop asking, call me Smith, Cooper, Brown or Jackson. Speaking up, I won't hesitate just to fight you. This hand won't feed you, but these teeth might you Diseases create a diabetes is type two if you needed the spark then I am here to ignite you
Starting point is 01:21:48 So don't say what you want about me You should just shut your mouth around me So don't say what you want about me You should just shut your mouth around me. I've been on top for a while and you can't bring me down. I've been on top for a while and you can't bring me down. In an illuminated mind, a fire you can't play it out. I've been on top for athe far you can't put out. I've been on top for a while, and you can't bring me down. With an illuminated mind, the far you can't put out.
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