Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #627: The Death Of The Mainstream Media With Rick Sanchez

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:29 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Go! Oh! Oh, hello. Good morning, Swarm.

Starting point is 00:00:50 Man, my voice is gone after this crazy weekend. We'll get into that. Join me as always, Xavier Guerrero and my good friend, Jay-nipe. Johnny Wooder, you're my good friend too. Both my good friends are here. Got that something to say for both of those. I know right, I hope so. I drove him like 10 hours up to him. You did, you did.

Starting point is 00:01:09 You crushed it, bro. I want to start off by thanking everybody who came to the Timfall Hack Comedy Nights and Swarm Tank. I want to say thank you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you enough how thankful I am for the love and respect, even to the couple that I met in the lobby of the hotel in Fresno who, while I looked at you while I was on stage, you were shaking your head and disgust the whole time. I do appreciate you and love you. I can't express how thankful I am.

Starting point is 00:01:42 And it's not even about money, it's really about just seeing all the people that show up and know that we've connected with you and you've connected with us. And myself, Eddie, Xavier, Johnny Benkort was there on Saturday. It's like such a blessing and I love you all very much. And if that's as good as it gets, it's a pretty great ride and I look forward to do more shows in 2023 and hopefully more, we sold more tick tickets tickets tickets tickets tickets tickets tick tickets tick tickets tick tickets more than than tick more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more tickets more, than than than than than th th tickets more, th. th. th. thi thi thi, thi, thi, th and I th and I th and I th and I th and I th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, the thi, the thi ride and I look forward to doing more shows in 2023 and hopefully more, we sold more tickets than we've ever sold on a weekend and that was all because of you guys and we love you very much and you know I just want to say that we take this show very, very serious and personal and we try to give you the best show we possibly can. We try to keep the train on the tracks and give you you you you you it's really about just you know connecting with you guys and giving you guys what you want because you're so thankful I mean you're so big part of what I do in my life and without

Starting point is 00:02:32 you I don't know where I be so thank you guys it was just a great weekend so we love you I just wanted to say that and it was fun right it was a fun right it was a blast everybody everybody was great family their their th I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I was like like like like like like like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was a th was like I was a th was a th was a th was a th was a th was a th. th. th. It was th. It was. It was th. It was th. th. th. It was th. It was was th. th. th. th. th. th. It was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was thi. It was thi. I was just thi. It was just thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was thi. It was th. you meet the mom, the sister, I was like, holy crap, like they was of an event, I was like, you guys all woke, they're like, we're all woke. We all listened. We met a whole family, some of them were giving Xavier Guerrero thirsty eyes and we appreciate that, we appreciate that. Guys, got a live event coming, the last live event of the year, December December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, December, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we. the, we. the, we. the, we. the, we. the, we. the, we. the, I, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, we're, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the comedy store comedy chaos and two shows one show at 8 p.m. One show at 1030 grab your tickets now they are killer lineups second show's got Jimmy door dude the lineup is great let me see the line up dude real quick let me find anyways I'll push you on the next one but I love

Starting point is 00:03:22 you all very much please go check out Sam Ptoward.com, grab your tickets now. What is your, what is your? Extreme marks the spot on all social media. And yeah, tune in. Johnny what's your is? Johnny A Woodard on Instagram. Johnny Woodard, Twitter. The comedy cast show is Bobby Lee Andrew Santino, Whitney Cummings, Ian Edwards in the first show. Second show is Matt Rife, Jimmy Doar, Kurt Metzger, Eddie Bravo, Eleanor Kerrigan.

Starting point is 00:03:49 First shows got Mike Bud. Those are two murder shows. They will sell, grab your tickets now. And we love you very much and please enjoy the show with our new friend, Rick Sanchez. We go deep home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink. All right, so let's get into it. Very excited to have this next, Joe Ma.

Starting point is 00:04:12 Gentleman on, he is the CEO of Aquamedia. And he's got a podcast called the Rich Sanchez podcast. I've been following this guy for a while. Very excited to have him. Please want him to Tim Follet. Rick, Rick, Sanchez. How are you Rick Sanchez, how are you, Rick? It's fantastic to be here, Johnny. Thanks, my friend.

Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, I'm Sam, that's Johnny. And this is Xavier Guerrero, and we should have told you that before. My apologies, but I appreciate you, but I appreciate you. No, no, no, no, you know, when you do th. There th. of you that says Johnny. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. So yeah, he's an intern. So he appreciates you saying. Sam XG, great to have you guys with me here. Let's have a really rambunctious crazy fucking discussion. So Rick, I'm very excited to have you on.

Starting point is 00:04:58 Real quick, I kind of listed some of your where they can find you. But can tell our listeners a little bit about yourself and where they can find you. So I'm Rick Sanchez and I am the first Latino who had his own show on CNN. I also had a show on Fox News and I also had a show on NBC. So I've worked on all the cable networks. I even worked on RT, interestingly enough. Also worked on Univision because I speak English is my second language. Spanish is actually my first language. I've had a pretty

Starting point is 00:05:31 rambunctious career. I interviewed, I've interviewed President Reagan, President Carter, President Clinton, President Obama, Mikhail Gorbachev, Fidel Castro, Manuel Noriega. I've got three P-Bodies and five Emmys from covering stories, including 9-11 and Katrina. And I had a pretty damn good run. I had some of the highest ratings at CNN for a long time. So I've been fortunate enough to be born an immigrant, a refugee, came to the United States. My parents were poor, so much so. They never had more than $11,000 combined income when I

Starting point is 00:06:11 was little growing up and I somehow was able to break through and you know I got a football scholarship to play football in Minnesota and from that I got a CBS News scholarship and that's why I was able to go into TV news back when TV News meant something. That's a great point and tell us a little bit about aqua media. Well, you know, recently I had a pretty good run with a business that we started me and some partners of mine. We ended up starting a business that was within four and a half years, we took that big business public. It became a publicly traded company.

Starting point is 00:06:49 It's a 4.5 billion dollar company. I'm one of the founders of that company and we've done good. So I thought to myself, what do I want to do with some of this money? And one of the things I've always wanted to do is give back to something that I think sort of needs it, and that's media. I think the media in this country sucks and gets worse with each passing year. And for many reasons that we can go into and, you know, we would be here talking for a long time.

Starting point is 00:07:17 But anyway, so I thought, well, one of the things that's always frustrated me in media is the way way way way way way the way the way the way Latinos the way Latinos the way Latinos are, you know, perceived. Yeah, we, nobody understands us. Hollywood makes us out to be either, you know, lawn, land scapers, you know, lawnmowers or criminals. You know, the very conservative media says that we're all coming over the border as rapists and criminals. The, uh, the liberal media has no clue who the hell we are and doesn't know how to, you know, portray us. And in the end, we're just so underrepresented. We're 20% of the population in the United States and we're barely 3% of the representation anywhere. It's like we don't even exist. And it pissed me off. So I thought, let me get some of my buddies and let's start a media company, that tells our story at least, you know, and educates people in terms of who Latinos are in the United States.

Starting point is 00:08:09 I mean, just some basic stuff. Like if we were a country, we would be the fourth biggest GDP in the world. Only behind the United States, China, pardon me, the fifth biggest. That's United States. Then Latinos in the United States. You know, Latinos on average work 42 hours a week. The average non-Latino works 33 hours a week.

Starting point is 00:08:34 I mean, I can go on and on this. Yeah. at is, you know, immigrants jumping the fence, crossing a river, wet back, we're coming over the border, we're, you know, criminals and rapists, etc., etc. And that's why I decided, you know, let's just put some facts out there, what the hell. I love it. Xavier Guerrero is our Latino on the show and he doesn't even work close to 40 hours a week, so he's like really lowering the average. It would probably be much higher if he wasn't part of the crew. My dad makes up for it though.

Starting point is 00:09:06 My dad makes up for my part of being the Mexican. I mean like, so, so there's a lot to go on with this. I mean, I kind of want to stay on this Latino thing, but I really want to get into like, like why I was very excited that's a cartoon and then I got into like oh okay I know I know I know Rick Sanchez I've been following Rick Sanchez for a very long time I followed him I'm gonna be honest with you man I do feel like you can't you when I remember you on CNN I that to me is a different CNN than what even was like, not even today, today's like, it's like nobody, I mean like nobody recognizes CNN, but even of a year ago, two years ago,

Starting point is 00:09:52 you were, it was a different time. Now, maybe I was a lot more naive then, and I had a little more faith in, in the mainstream media, and that's completely gone, but your story always resonated with me. And that's why I was very excited that you came on. You know, I love serious radio, and I know at the time you were doing CNN, and you had a serious radio show with a gentleman named Pete, I forget what Pete's last name is,

Starting point is 00:10:23 but you and him had a radio show together, and I forget what the topic that came up with. And I know, I understand it, you know, I think you said your friends with the ADL now, you're very close with the ADL, which is fine, I have my, I understand the, you know, part of what the ADL is trying to do, I also also thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, and thu, thu, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, and that's, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, I forget, I forget, I forget, I forget, I forget, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I understand the, you know, part of what the ADL is trying to do, I also think it's very weaponized and that's Sam speaking, not Rick Sanchez, but do you wanna discuss like what kind of happened?

Starting point is 00:10:54 Because I feel like what happened to you way back then is way more relevant now than it's ever been. And your thoughts on everything like that. So can you kind of like give us the back to to back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the back, to the back, to to to to to to to to to to to, their, I, the the to, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.o, they.e.e.e.e. th.ea.a. thea. thia. thia. thi. thea. I, thi. I, thi. I, thi on everything like that. So can you kind of like give us the backstory from your point of view about what happened and was I at all right on any of it? Well, yeah, you've missed a couple of points, but generally speaking, yeah, I was one of the first persons to ever be canceled in the United States and canceled in a very humiliating and horrible fashion. And it's pretty simple. If anybody can remember, I you did. I had, I, I, I, I, I, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had, I had the the the the the the the th. I had th. I had th. I, if anybody can remember, I think you did,

Starting point is 00:11:29 I had one of the hottest shows on CNN. And the reason I had one of the hottest shows on CNN is because I got lucky. And I was the first guy on CNN or on any media in the United States to include social media into my broadcast. So one day, I literally was about to do a newscast and I took out my laptop and I said to the people who were watching me, I said, by the way,

Starting point is 00:11:51 you know, I'm gonna do this thing called Twitter. So go right now if you want to, to W.W.W.W.W.T.W.T. And as I'm talking to you on TV, you can't to to to. I to. I'm to. I. I'm, to. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. to. toe. to. to. to. to. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I................................................................................................ to.... to... to..... to you say during the commercials and maybe I'll even share a couple of things that you tell me while we're doing this. See, Twitter was brand new and when I said WW it's because literally that's the way people would say it back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember telling a friend of mine that. He's like, hey, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. ttttti. tod. ti. tod. ti. tod. ti. toda. toda. toda. ttoda. toda. ttoda don't have to put the double. You know what to do WWW? He's like, well, I go try. He goes, oh my God, bro, it was like mind blowing.

Starting point is 00:12:29 But yeah, so what was the story behind that? Because XG pulled up a story that kind of brings up some of what happened there. I didn't remember. So, so that's so that John Klein, the president of CNN, had called me in and said, you now have the highest, especially non-white ratings in the history of this network, which is pretty cool.

Starting point is 00:12:52 So every, so they realized that I was a, I was kind of what they called a ratings machine. Wherever they put me, the ratings would go up. So they used me, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, the, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.. the, their, the, th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to. to. to. to. to.e. too.e.a. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. the the the the the the used me first they put me at four o'clock because Wolf Blitzer's ratings sucked. So they said we're going to put you as a lead into Wolf because wolf needs somebody to help him with his rating. So we put you in front of him people who come to you and whoever hangs out after you will increase his ratings. So they used me to increase Wolf's ratings. Then they

Starting point is 00:13:19 they wanted me to go up against Bill O'Reilly at 8 o'clock. So they fired the gal who was doing the 8 o'clock and they put me there and the ratings went up again. And instead of keeping me there, then they got rid of me and put somebody else there. So then after about a year, the person who had they had put there also sucked and she wasn't doing any ratings. So they called me and said, Rick the the the ratings, Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, Rick, and said, and said, Rick, and said, and said, and said, the the the the the the the ratings, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, and said, and the ratings, and the ratings, and to, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and the ratings, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the ratings. And, the ratings. And, the ratings. the, the. the. the, the, the ratings. the, the ratings. the, the ratings. and said, Rick, we want you to go up to the 8 o'clock again, because we need to be able to compete with Oberman and Bill O'Reilly

Starting point is 00:13:46 because they're killing us. And you're the only one who can at least stand up to him. So I went up and I did it again. So I think you get the picture now. It's like a quarterback. And every time they bring me up, then they take me down. Second time they bring me up, then they take me down. Now, then another year passes or so,

Starting point is 00:14:11 and they decide that they're gonna get rid of the other person who they had put on at eight o'clock. I'm actually forgetting the names, because people come and people go. This time, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, they're than, they're they're they're than, they're they're they're they're they're thin, they're they're thi. they're they're thought I'm in, I got it, I'm so excited. I mean every time they've given me this opportunity I've proven myself and finally they're going to give it to me and instead I get a call and they said sorry we're given the gig to Elliot Spitzer, the former disgraced governor of New York who had recently been... Right? Do you remember this? Yeah, of course. He wears his socks during love making.

Starting point is 00:14:46 I remember that. Yeah, that detail. What a coincidence, so do I. No, uh... Just think about how bizarre the world is right now, that that was considered weird. Like, do this guy wears his socks? Oh my god, what a freak!

Starting point is 00:15:02 Shame! Shame! Shame! They nail the test. That's it. That's your way, that's your, God, you're so boring. What do you make love, missionary position? You're gross, right? It's like, so apparently the guy had a habit of visiting prostitutes, even though he was the governor and then he lied about it and he got caught and then said, well, we'll give him a chance. Because it's funny, as I continue to tell this story, that kind of becomes ironic in and

Starting point is 00:15:27 and of itself. So yeah, so that day, I was in a really shit mood. I was just really angry with the world. And I was sick and tired of CNN just treating me like I was, you know, their little freaking boy, you know, the little fricking, th............ their little, th. thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.......... So, th.... So, th.. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thri. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, him in when we want to, but we never gonna give him the big job, no matter how high his ratings are, you know, he just doesn't fit in. I don't know, I always, and I was pissed. And so suddenly, it wasn't my co-host,

Starting point is 00:15:55 it was an interview, so the CNN people said, oh, there's this guy middle of the interview, I just started talking about how pissed off I was. I said I was sick and tired of being looked over for other people. And then I said, you know, and that's very typical of CNN, because if you look at CNN,

Starting point is 00:16:16 they're very white and very elitist, and everybody looks the same. And what CNN and the other networks need to start to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the other networks need to do is they need to start looking for people who grew up rough, people who didn't grow up in Ivy League environments, people who were like Latino or Black or Southern or just whatever, right? And then the guy, somehow we got into a conversation about John Stewart, and John Stewart was constantly making fun of me on his show. And like a moron I had taken it to heart. I should have thanked them for it because he was making me famous,

Starting point is 00:16:46 but I had very thin skin back then for some reason. Maybe when I combined the whole thing. So then I said, and you know, I said, essentially John Stewart was a jerk too. And then I said, and then we got into the conversation certain groups get, you know, short-shrifted and some don't. And then I said, and John Stewart is just as bad as the rest of them. I mean, he's part of the problem. And they said, how can John Stewart be part of the problem? He's Jewish and Jews are a minority and Jews are underrepresented and I went, what?

Starting point is 00:17:17 What? Jews are underrepresented in the media? But rather than stating it the way I should have stated it, which is to say, look, Jews are not underrepresented in the media. Jews have done very well in the media and to their credit. And I think part of it is because Jewish people tend to live around New York. New York is the media capital of the world. That's why they happen to be big in the media.

Starting point is 00:17:40 It's not a conspiracy. it's no big freaking plan, it just happens to be that way. But instead, what I said was something like this, Jews are underrepresented in the media compared to like Latinos, come on, give me a break, well, the next day I was fired. The story immediately went to Rick Sanchez, disrespected Jews. Rick Sanchez is an anti-Semite. Rick Sanchez is saying that Jews own the media

Starting point is 00:18:09 and run the media, which I never said, didn't matter. Yeah, we have the actual comments right here. And it's so funny, bro. And it's just an interesting thing about that. And you know, it's like Peter Dominic, I'm not a fan of his. I used to go and do his serious radio shows with Steve Byrne and he's just swarmy man and like I remember one day I bought a USA Today. This is how long ago it was. You buy USA Today for about a dollar or 50 cents and I just loved their sports section. So I went to do the show and I left without my paper. I went to go back and he's walking with the the the th. they. they. they. they. they. they. to. their. to. their. their. I'm, their. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm their, I'm to. I'm to. I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I'm to. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, th. I'm th. th. I'm th. to. th. t. t. t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. th. th. to do the show and I left without my paper I went to go back and he's walking with a paper and I'm like hey man did do you know where my

Starting point is 00:18:49 paper is he's like oh no I don't know where it is I go what he goes yeah don't know where it is right lie to my freaking face and then after that this kind of happen and I just like and dude it's a paper I don't tell you know I'm saying but it's just like it's a the the window like it's a the window like it's a the window like it's a the window like it's a the window like the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. th. th. the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the'm saying, but it's just like... It's a window to the soul though in that moment. It's a window to a soul. And the guy's head looks like a light bulb. He has like probably the worst bald head I've ever seen him. And this is Sam speaking, not Rick, you know, Rick is probably like, oh, I'll tell you right now, he was a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit, dude. And the reason I say he was a piece of shit, wasn't because it was his fault

Starting point is 00:19:27 that he asked me a question and I answered it horribly, and I mangled my words and I was angry and I was tired and, you know, whatever, I shouldn't have said it that way, by the way, as make my point that, you know, in many ways sometimes we, we who are not Jewish, just like we who are not Cuban, I happen to be Cuban. A lot of people don't understand the sensibilities

Starting point is 00:19:55 of anybody's culture. I may not understand, Sam, your culture, and I may say things that you would maybe get upset with. Then all it takes is for you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I, and I, and I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the tho, thi...... th th th th toooooooooooooooooooo, th th th th th thi.ooooooooooooo, takes is for you to tell me that, then I learn and then we talk and then I apologize and we move on. But if a human being isn't given a chance to move on, even after they say, oh my God, I didn't mean it that way, I'm so sorry. And I understand that if you go back,

Starting point is 00:20:18 because I've researched it now, if you go back and understand and understand andkenazi Jewish experience globally, like going back thousands and thousands of years, whenever someone said that Jewish people or noted that Jewish people were highly successful, the next thing that came, historically speaking, was that they were annihilated or attacked or something, I get that. And I understand the sensibility as a result of people saying, oh, he says Jews are very successful. So that must mean that he hates Jews. I mean, I guess historically I get it.

Starting point is 00:20:49 And it's not at all. Yeah, of course it is. I'm trying to do that. And I felt terrible that people felt that way. But no matter what I said, and no matter how many times I apologized, it was you're now in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back in the back of the bus for life. So when I applied at CBS or NBC or ABC or anywhere, they said, no, you're tainted, you will never work again. And I never did.

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Starting point is 00:24:06 you know, Latinos. And you're totally right. Like, I love the Latino, like this whole, this gets really deep into some stuff about the force my immigration to destroy cultures and stuff. We see it happening in Europe right now. They're going through a real crisis right now, identity crisis with this, you know, I feel weaponized immigration. And like, listen, my parents came here my great great grandparents My my great grandparents fled the Turkish genocide of our of Armenians watches all you know he came here so I'm cool with welcoming people and I love Latino I like more let them in let him Yes there's some shame if you happen to not know something about me as a Latino doesn't mean you to me. Yeah, it doesn't mean you're it just means you don't know. I mean. I to you. It just to the the the the the th th the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre gre the great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great the way, if you happen to not know something about me as a Latino, doesn't mean you hate me. Yeah. It doesn't mean you're, it just means you don't know. I mean, you can't know everything. Right. I mean, I'm sure if you happen to watch Fox News or one of these other right-wing channels every night,

Starting point is 00:24:55 you're going to think that Latinos literally are just coming over the border every two minutes And they all have a knife. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th. th th th th th th th. th th th th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just means means thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeea. thea. thea. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi just just just just their back pocket and they're going to rape your daughter. Right. I mean, because that's the message that they're putting out every. Why don't it's not your fault? It's all division, it's all divide and conquer. And the same thing with Jews, like Jews are wonderful people. They're like Italians. They're like, they're like Armenians. You know and the truth is like they were not allowed to to to to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate. to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate to participate. a very long time. So like many marginalized groups, okay, they they kind of form mobs. Like it's just what the Italians did when they moved here. They're sensitive to certain phrases and right. Where we've gotten here to today. And some there are really are, like John Sturritt once said, and I love John for this he said calling Rick Sanchez

Starting point is 00:25:47 an anti-Semite is such a freaking disservice to all the real anti-Semides out there who work hard at their profession. He was so right I mean it's like if I said something stupid and apologize for it which I didn't mean thatthat is so far a field of being a freaking anti-Semite. I mean, I'm with you, bro. Anti-Semites work hard to be, I mean, those guys, they go out every day and they say, I'm gonna do this and say this about the truths or something, I mean, you know, come on. So my whole thing right th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah, to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th this has been going on, I feel like this is slowly changing, okay, is that the notion that any group is above criticism. And like I'm not saying, hey, we should be able to criticize Jews, I'm not saying that.

Starting point is 00:26:36 I'm saying the truth is we should be able to criticize people who happen to be Jewish, and not criticize them because of their actions. And that is where all this, this is where it becomes this kind of thing because a culture of people who have been caught, who have been forced to ban together, okay, because the society at the time, and this is in like the 15 and 1600s, they weren't allowed to participate. So they ban together and it becomes a very mob thing. Well, well, well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. This is th. This is where, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is is th. This is is, th. This is, th. This is, th. This is th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And thi. And thi. And, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. thi. And thi.s, they weren't allowed to participate. So they band together and it becomes a very mob thing. Well, today is a different day and that's okay, but the generational trauma gets passed down by generation, generation, generation, and there becomes a real disservice

Starting point is 00:27:17 when you don't allow anybody in your group to be criticized. I'm Armenian. Imagine me saying Armenians aren't shady. You know, I mean, like, we do shady shit all the time, dude. It's just, imagine me saying Italians are in the mob and you do a real disservice, but there is power in this, there is a movement, right? So, so, you know, a lot of people don't realize that, you know, during World War II, you know, that, you know, the Jewish Holocaust was horrible, but there was also a second Holocaust going on, and that was the Holocaust of Russian troops who were captured. They were killed in camps. And then, so they're talking like 3 to 4 million

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Starting point is 00:28:36 Just think about that. Like, I was thinking about how, like, people get so upset about the M-word. And it's like, I'm not saying Kedona at all, but think about when like Quentin Tarantino goes on a show. What do they give him shit about why do your characters say the end word so much? But his shows are all about murdering people like nobody cares about that. Nobody cares that he's glorifying murdering people. You're concerned about the end word being said. Like think about what that represents. So the point is this whole thing Rick and I don't want want th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the end. I'm the end. the end. I the end. the end. the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I their. I their. I their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the end word. the the the the the end word. the the end word. the end word. the end word. I the end that represents. So the point is this whole thing, Rick, and I don't want to make you uncomfortable. It's like, I think you, I'm super happy to see you doing wonderful things, because I don't think you did anything wrong.

Starting point is 00:29:13 And in today's thing, maybe if it happened today, it might have been received a little bit differently. Well, I the where I disagree is where I is is is is is th, I is thage I is thage I is thage I thage I thage I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thin, I thin, I thin, I'm thin, I thi, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin, I'm thin. thin. thin. thin. the the thin. the thin. thin. th thin. th th th th th where I disagree is I think it was wrong and I think my words should have been chosen more carefully. And I think I probably should have been more conscious, more socially aware, more historically attuned to, you know, some of the things I learned hence. Right. So you think saying that there's a lot of Jews in the media is wrong? No, the way I said it the offhand way that I kind of disregarded it like right really oppressed people in the media come on

Starting point is 00:29:57 right I got you okay somehow I allowed my language to become very offhand I think I could have made my argument like we all could. This is what I say to my son. I said, son, I understand your intent, but the way that you actually executed it was not good. Yeah, so, you know, look, I'll take that. I mean, I'm a guy who's supposed to be paid because he speaks well, and I didn't speak well on that day. I was angry, I was frustrated. I didn't, I didn't have the I didn't have the I didn't have the the the the the the the. I didn't have some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some th. I didn't have th. I didn't have th. I didn't have thi I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'll have th. I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll have I'll to have I'll to have I'll to have I'll to have I'll to have I'll to have to have I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toea. I'm toea. I'm toea. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm. I'm toe. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm speak well on that day. I was angry, I was frustrated. I didn't have some of the experiential knowledge that I do now and I made a mistake and I immediately apologized for the mistake. I think the larger point is in all of this, whether I would have insulted Jews or anybody else is we have to get back to allowing ourselves

Starting point is 00:30:43 to have conversations and not live in silos where we just decide this person is canceled. We hate them. I will never talk to them and or listen to them ever again. And we're doing that now. It's starting to get to the point where we do it in our families. We do it in our businesses. We do it at work. This country is as far apart and as separate as possibly we were during or before the Civil War, with the possible exception that at least in the Civil War, one group thought like this in a geographic location in the South, another group thought in another geographic location in the North. This time we're all thinking completely different in silos,

Starting point is 00:31:22 but living amongst each other and that shit gets dangerous. That's what I think we need to start allowing ourselves to make mistakes and to learn and to forgive and to love. We've stopped doing that for some reason and I don't know why. I think it's all meant to control us in a sense of like, I think what we're going through right now is very, very high profile cancellations of a lot of people or intent to cancelate them to show you that if you speak out that you could be canceled and lose your ability to make a living.

Starting point is 00:32:00 We're seeing it done on very, very high levels. And, you know, regardless of what anybody thinks of ye and what he's going through, you should not be okay with a corporation like Adidas being able to go in and take somebody's money. You shouldn't be okay with that no matter how egregious you think what they say is because it's just doesn't you know you you never know when you're just going to be at the end of the barrel of the gun. Because you think he's doing this because he really is a hateful soul or is he be? Is he like off his meds and just gone? I think he's heard. He's doing it for a reason because somehow he thinks this will make him more famous.

Starting point is 00:32:40 I think Scott Adams said it best. He had a nice little clip on it and like we'll talk about that whole interview after You know because we got Rick for an hour, but I think you know Scott Adam said best I think what what Kanye's trying to do is just flip the board just completely flip the board and Go so crazy that he's just a not because he can't win the game right sky sky. Skyam said this can't win the game because he didn't the game. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, the whole thi, thi, th. th. th. th. the whole. the whole. the whole. the whole. the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole the whole th. the whole the whole th. the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole the the whole th. th. thi. thi. thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's they. We'll thi. We'll thi. We'll thi. We'll thi. We'll thi. We'll the whole the whole the whole the whole the whole th so crazy that he's just a not because he can't win the game right Sky this guy I'm said this can't win the game because he didn't create the game he doesn't run the game so it can't win the game okay so he's going to just flip the game and that's what he's doing and it's like you know I used to watch Eddie Griffin do four hours at the comedy store right four hours that's th tho the the th the the th the th th the th th the th the the th th th the th the th th the th. th. the th. th. th. thi tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi thi tho tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th. th is th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the the the toe the toe toe too toe the toe to the the the the the the to hours at the comedy store, right? Four hours, that's too much. And in that four hours, there was 30 minutes of the greatest comedy you've ever heard, right?

Starting point is 00:33:29 So it's like what I'm getting into and it's kind of what you just talked to your son about is is presentation. That interview with Alex Jones, you have a very young man named Nick Fuentes, who's out there, who is obviously, and I like, I'm going to be honest, I owe, I owe, I owe, I owe, I owe, I owe the the the the the to be a to be a to be a to be, I'm, I'm going to be a to be a to be a to be a to be, to be a to be a to be, the to, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, the the the th. I'm, the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th... I'm, th.. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, and I like, I'm gonna be honest, I owe the guy an apology because I've made comments on just tiny clips that they've showed, which they've isolated, you know, he's a very intelligent man. I don't know how smart he is, but I know he's very intelligent. And intelligent, I think, he strikes me as a guy, I mean, some of the things he said, horrible. Yeah, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he he's he he's he he's he. He's he. He's he. He's he he he. He's, he's he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he's he. he. he. he. he. he. he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. He's tiny. He's tiny. He's tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. tiny. things he said are horrible. Yeah, but that's that's presentation. He's not old enough to know. He's 24. Yeah, so like he's so intelligent.

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Starting point is 00:34:45 which is are you kidding me? Yeah, like there be Afra or something and then the other things that he said about the????? I, the he? I he? I he? I he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he hea. I hea. I hea. I hea. I hea. I he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. I th. I th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't th. I don't thin. I don't th. I th. I thi thi he he thi thi the military in and get him, which is, are you kidding me? Yeah. Like there be Afra or something. And then the other things that he said about the, he, when he talks about Jews in the media, he didn't, he doesn't do it the way I do it. Right. He didn't make a mistake and apologize. Oh no, he's just saying, the Jew media has caused this problem in America. saying, the Jew media has caused this problem in America because they did this and that. And I'm going, wow, that is going to live on your record

Starting point is 00:35:10 for the rest of your life and you're only 24. That's what I'm saying. It's like presentate, he doesn't understand, like, there's a reason why as a stand-up comic, you go 10 years with usually nobody knowing you. Because you're literally getting a doctrine in Jedi mind tricks. That's what you're doing. You're learning to manipulate people through thoughts, right?

Starting point is 00:35:32 To elicit a response in a room. It takes time. Now, there's a lot of things that he said in there that I wasn't a perfect. I didn't know about. And his presentation is blunt force trauma. And it's gonna be very hard to get people behind that because he's not old enough to understand presentation. Now am I saying everything, I'm saying how he's saying is really wrong. In reality, the stuff he said about Jared Kushner, there's probably some truth to it. Like, even in the craziest stuff,

Starting point is 00:36:06 there's some truth to it, but your presentation is too crazy. Don't you think that presentation attracts it wrong? I didn't hear that part. What did he say about Jared Kushner? Did I miss that? Yeah, there's some stuff about making a particular deal happen? I. I., I, apocalyptic religions, religious thing that

Starting point is 00:36:26 goes on. So, you know, I don't want to make you uncomfortable, Rick. I didn't know, no, no, listen, I mean, there's some, look, like I always say, it's important for us to have these discussions for people to share ideas. You may have stronger feelings about some things than other. For example, I do believe wholeheartedly that Hitler's particular angst against Jews, his anger, his hatred for them caused him to do things against Jews that he didn't do against other people. And it's different, you know, obviously 27 million Russians were killed in a war where the Nazis invaded

Starting point is 00:37:07 that country, something for some reason most Americans still don't appreciate or understand. Right. Right. But, but with the Jews, sons of bitches, man, they lived in that country, they were Germans and he just went one by one picking him out and saying, you, you, you, you, to, to a concentration camp where I'm going to fry you. I mean, that is just, man. That is, that is, it's, it's super tragic.

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Starting point is 00:38:07 the color guy, you know, the guy who's not the play-by-play guy, the other guy. And they asked me to do it, and I did it,, he was never at the program where he was allowed to cheat, like some programs. I know, North Carolina, if he'd been able to cheat in North Carolina, we would have won the ACA, they would have been at Alabama or Duke basketball, they would, that the NCAA seems to not have a problem with.

Starting point is 00:38:36 So you go there and then one day I'm watching, This show kind of comes out from this whole Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton thing. I'm watching people like Lee Camp and Jimmy Dorr, and they're all talking about exit polls aren't matching numbers. And the national, or federal election committee says, if exit polls are off by 3%, you probably have some sort of election fraud. These were off by 15%. So I'm like, oh, I'm'm listening so I'm really into I decided

Starting point is 00:39:05 to start to show and you know I know Abby Martin I love her she's a good friend and you know and I'm seeing her these clips on RT News and you know I Lee Kapp he's been on a show bunch of times and we had a real fun I would love talking to him about being on RT News because I had a friend of mine that really had a visceral reaction to somebody being on RT News. And I go, okay, but what's the information, man? Well, I mean, is it accurate information? And based on what I'm seeing, it's really accurate information. Why are you upside?

Starting point is 00:39:39 Oh, this is the Russian's, I'm like, think about what you're saying, man. Think about what you're saying. You're killing the messenger, not listening to the message. So, yeah, in fact, we should all. I would, well, I would make an argument to Rachel Maddow and Anderson Cooper and whoever the hell these people are on all these networks. One day, go across the street and work somewhere else because you're living in your little freaking bubbles. And, you know, if you had a chance,

Starting point is 00:40:14 Sam, to work in, for, I don't know, the Chinese network, and they gave you an opportunity to go there and learn from them. I would say go, go learn, see other things. I mean, we should work at the BBC. We should work at Lamont. We should work for, you know, the Iranian networks. We should work for Middle Eastern networks. We should work in Israel. We should work in Russia. We should work in China. Why would you say, close them off? I don't want to know what they think. I don't ever want to hear from them. I only want to hear from this little thing over here. That's the way we've gotten as Americans and it's crazy. It's just crazy. And the notion that that like the BBC is fine, which is British and the Russian, which is, which is bad. Now I always get like I think the history between the US and Russia

Starting point is 00:41:08 has been completely Fugazied and Yeah, we're the victims of a lot of propaganda but when I saw you on there. I was like really happy. I'm like, okay, I'm very happy for him. You know, you don't need my you know for me to give you a pity party and it wasn't a pity party. It was like a really like cool dude. This guy is like. I, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, I th. thi, I th. thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, for me to give you a pity party. And it wasn't a pity party. It was like a really like, cool dude. This guy is like, he's on a cool network and he got really fucked and it's good to see him back. What was the experience of being on RT News? It was great. So one day, I got a call from an agent and he says, look, would you like to get back in the business, like have your own show, be on not just national but global, 800,000 viewers a night?

Starting point is 00:41:52 I said, gee, that sounds pretty cool. I'd love to do that. Well, there's this one group who's called me about you, says the agent, and they would love nothing more than to build a show around you and put you in prime time all over the world.... I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Well. Well. Well. Well, th. Well, th. Well, tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-a tho-upo-upo-upon, tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi-a-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thi. And thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiia. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi, and they would love nothing more than to build a show around you and put you in prime time all over the world. I said, that sounds pretty good. He said, the problem is it's RT. I said, really, RT, huh? I saw, it sounds a little, I don't know, man.

Starting point is 00:42:18 Let me think about it. He says, I'll tell you what. Here's a phone number, write th you, th you, th you, th you, th you, th you, th you, th you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. I that's, th. th. th. th. that's, th. that's th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's okay. I said, that's a phone number for Larry King. Larry loves you, and I know you guys were good friends when you guys worked together at CNN. He were a gangster and I said, and have a conversation with him. And after you've talked to him, if you feel comfortable with it, do it.

Starting point is 00:42:37 Now, I remember Larry, and it just so happened that I happened, to to have, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, to thi, thi, and I to tho, and I tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. and I th. and I th...... I th. And, th.. And, th... And, th.. And, th. And, th.. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th No one's going to tell me what the hell to say. No one's going to take over my editorial, my independent editorial independence. In other words, I will write my shows, I will produce my shows, I will host my shows, nobody controls my message. Nobody tells me what to do. And the moment that tells me what to to to to to to to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say. Nobody to say to say to say. Nobody to say to say. Nobody to say to say to say. Nobody to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say the they. No. No one they. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No one. No, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tell. No one. No one. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I tell. I. I tell. I tell. I. I tell. I tell. tell moment that doesn't happen, I quit, I walk out the door, and I expect a contract that allows me then, if I put everything aside and go there and I find out they're doing that, I want right then and there a check for one million dollars as I walk out the door.

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Starting point is 00:43:39 I was basically taking journalism and news and turning it on its head and saying, have you ever looked at this story this way? And people loved it and it worked very well for me and I had a good time and they paid a lot. So it was actually kind of worth doing for me. It was a great experience. I learned more about the world as an American, as another dumb American because we all are because we were just not allowed to know to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to the the their it on its their to their to the about the world as an American, as another dumb American, because we all are, because we're just not allowed to know anything. We're very isolated people in this country.

Starting point is 00:44:10 I learned more about the world, about China, about the Middle East, about Africa. I was interviewing prime ministers. I was interviewing people from all over the world. You know, I grew more and learn more journalistically, globally than I ever thought I would in my entire life. So in that sense, you know, and yeah, Russians are screwed up and they've got all their issues and you know, just like us and they've got their prejudices

Starting point is 00:44:33 and everything else. But in the end, I would say it was a really great experience and I would encourage other journalists and other human beings to find places where they don't know the environment and jump in there because it'll stretch you and it'll grow you and it'll make you smarter. So, so as you kind of take a look at like you know you the world starts open to you on RT and then you know the internet has really opened up stuff and you know again it's kind of the theme on the show is like you know whether it's Russia, China Israel and guess what the United the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the it's kind of the theme on the show is like, you know, whether it's Russia, China, Israel, and guess what, the United States.

Starting point is 00:45:11 I think the criticism of the government is separate from the people. And what I found is that the people, like, I've been to China, I've been to the Middle East, I've been to Japan, I've met all the, I've been to these amazing countries, and when, and when, and when, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, whether, the, whether, whether, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.e, they.e, they.e, they.e.e. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the, the, the, the, the, the, the China, I've been to the Middle East, I've been to Japan, I've met all the, I've been into these amazing countries and when you meet people, you realize people are pretty much the same. They want to live, they want to laugh, they want to raise their family, get laid once in a while and just be happy about. And like we have this thing where our governments take actions and we somehow have to co-sign on, which is, which, which, which, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I the the the the their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their their their their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I've their, I've the, I've the, I've thea, I've thea, I've thea, I've thea, I've thea, I've their, I've their, I've their like our governments take actions and we somehow have to co-sign on, which is I feel the theme of this show today, this episode is like the mass is having to protect the 1% and I don't do that. I have no problems with the Russian people. I have no problems with the Chinese people. I have no problems with Israelis. There are things

Starting point is 00:46:05 that is happening over there that need to be discussed. Or Or Anions or Saudis or 100%. You know, but it's not our business right to go over there and fix that? Well, well, the delusion and the illusion that we're bringing peace to anywhere is completely laughable. Please. An army bringing peace. I mean, that idea from the beginning, you know, it's that that that is is is is that that that that the that is is is is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. the. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. We. the. the. the. the. the. the army bringing peace. I mean, that idea from the beginning, you know, it has been ridiculous. And the one thing I will say about the American people is up until recently, we've tended the vote in guys who've told us we're gonna end these wars. And they never freaking do it, ever.

Starting point is 00:46:41 Because it's not their decision. The decision is made by the military military military decision is made by the military industrial complex. And they essentially pump millions and millions of dollars into the pockets of the people who are in Congress in both the House and the Senate, who are legally bribed then to continue, whatever it is the hell that they want to continue. They also sit on the board of the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times and the Wall Street Journal and CNN and Fox News and ABC and CBS.

Starting point is 00:47:13 Some of them actually own the network for the longest time. NBC was owned by a military contractor, right? A war manufacturer. So, I mean, a weapons manufacturer. So there is so much interlocking in our government right now that you have people like Rachel Maddow, right? Like literally, you know, cheering on every war, like showing everything we do, like we're in Afghanistan for 20 years and accomplish absolutely nothing. Zill, 20 year war. If you took the length of the war, of the

Starting point is 00:47:48 Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the Vietnam War, World War I, and World War II, it still doesn't come out to 20 years, which means we spent more time in Afghanistan than we did in all of those wars, oh and by the way, spent 20 times more money than we did in all of those wars per capita per time, historically speaking. And yet the media would put that on the air sometimes for 30 seconds. The rest of the time they'd have us watching the cat fight between Nancy and Donnie and Joey and Biden and this one and that one because they think we're idiots. And in many ways, I think we kind of are.

Starting point is 00:48:22 And we shouldn't allow ourselves to buy into it, but we do, and the decisions are made for one reason and one reason only. Unfortunately, in the recent wars in this country, whether you're talking about Libya, or whether you're talking about Syria, or whether you're talking about Yemen, or whether you're talking about Afghanistan and all of those wars, it was all about the money. It was all about the Benjamins, unfortunately. And now we know that,

Starting point is 00:48:49 but then we move on. And the same people who did that in those wars, the same people who were in charge of creating the Iraq debacle, which it was. They're not running for office. They're on Cnn. They're on thrown th th th thi thi thi thi tho tho thi tho tho thi thi tho tho that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. tho that. that. tho that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. tho tho tho tho tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. to to to the to to to to to to the the to the the thea. thea. thea. the. the. thea. on CNN being interviewed as experts? Really, experts. That's like a guy who lost 20 football games in a row and you have them on now to talk about what a great football mind he is. It's, it's, it's, Sam, see you got me going man, don't get me started. Yeah, is that like Matt McMillan? What was the guy name that was like the GM of the Lions when they went defeated. And then like they fired him and then he was on like ESPN giving.

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Starting point is 00:53:45 And I'm sorry, man, but the new media is independent media. I would love to get your thoughts on, I mean like I don't trust billionaires, brother, I don't trust them. Not that, I want that, I want you to understand that it's not that I wish ill on them, or I think they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. I're not, thi. I're not, thi. I'm not, thi. I'm not, thi. I'm not, thi. I'm not, thi. I'm not, thr-a. I'm not, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I'm, the the the the the their, their, their. I'm, their. I'm, their. I'm, their. I'm, the the the the their. I'm, the the thi. thin. thin. thin. thin. thr. thin. thr. thrown. thrown. thr. thin. thin. thin. thee. thin. thee. thin. thin. the the the. the the. th I want to, I want you to understand that it's not that I wish ill on them or I think they're bad people, but I'm not waiting for anybody to save me and billionaires don't ever seem to really show up the way we hope them to hope that they would. You know it's funny you say that because I do think there was a time when I got into this business. Man, I remember when I got my first job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job job Minnesota, and I got a job working at Channel 7 in Miami, right, the NBC affiliate, and they gave me $17.5,000 a year, I thought I was the richest guy in the world. I mean, I was just, and the average reporter back then was lucky

Starting point is 00:54:40 if he could make $20,000. The average anchor person was lucky if they can make 100,000 or 75,000. You know, Walter Cronkite at his highest probably made $200,000 a year. Today, today, these guys, I mean, look at the salaries of the Anderson Coopers and the Hannity's and the Tucker's and Rachel Maddow's and whatever. Look at any of them. and the Tuckers and Rachel Maddow's and the whatever. Look at any of them.

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Starting point is 00:55:59 and it deserves to be respected and we need to follow it. In fact, you're probably going to go on the air to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tod to be tod tod tod, tod, tod, to be to be to be to be te, te, to be to be too, the the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, te, te, te, te, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, th to follow it. In fact, you're probably going to go on the air tonight and say that we now have to bomb Russia and start World War 3 because because it's going to be very profitable for me at NBC ratings wise and it's also going to be profitable for all these companies that sit on the board of NBC or CBS or any one of these companies. And that's the fact. Once you get that much money, you know, your own man. And most the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to be th. thi. th. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to be th. th. the. to th. thr. to to the to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to thr. know, your own man. And most of these guys today are. The old days, the anchors, the reporters, the journalists who worked at the Miami Herald and the New York Times and all these papers, they were lunch pale guys. They brought their lunch to work in a thing, just like my dad and your dad and stuff.

Starting point is 00:56:40 It doesn't exist anymore. So yeah, you're right, you the future, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. The, th. The, th. The, th. The, th, th, th, th, th. The, th. The, th. The, th. The, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the toooooo. the the the tooan, the the the the the the the toda, the, is the, is the scrappy gal who goes out there and wants a story to be told because she believes in the story, she believes in the truth and she believes people have a right to know. So we've been talking a lot about Elon Musk and what Elon Musk represents. He could easily be, um, um, some kind of guy that just woke up and doesn't like what's going on or it could be the Antichrist. We don't know. It's possible, anything's possible, right? But what are, and like, listen, when it comes to any of those people that are coming to save us, I stand in Croftmogast stance, hands up, defensive, because, you know, I've been old enough to know that I've been let down enough. So the question to me is, what is your thoughts on people like Elon Musk? Do you have any faith in what he's doing at Twitter right now is on the up and up?

Starting point is 00:57:39 I mean, there's, I mean, the whole, so, so it is of my belief that, okay, I wanna hear your opinion, I'll get into what I did a podcast. You know, I have this podcast called the Rick Sanchez podcast where I like you, you know, share ideas. Lately I've been trying to make it more constructive, because I just don't wanna be the guy like everybody else out there who just wants to join the negative Nancy party. So, but I did a show on the Rick Sanchez podcast recently about that. And my concern, I think, as I fought it through and prepared the podcast was,

Starting point is 00:58:14 I've always looked up to Elon Musk. I mean, this guy is a trailblazer. This guy has gone where nobody else would go. As a business person myself, I admire his business acumen. My concern is he's always been kind of a right brain guy. He's been the guy who is an engineer. He designs things. He sees things in boxes.

Starting point is 00:58:40 He makes decisions about things having to do with engines and cars and rockets. And I think he's really good at that. When you take that guy, or usually in life when you take those guys, and you put them in a creative, relationship-based environment like Twitter really is, Twitter is not about, you know, rockets and motors and, you know, that kind of thing. I think he's kind of out of his element. I think he's having a hard time dealing with, with, with people, with ideas, with the construct of ideas. And he's kind of learning as he goes. And I hope it gets there. I don't think he's a bad guy.

Starting point is 00:59:22 But I think the mistakes he's making make him look like he's a guy who was just quarterbacking his junior high school team and somebody decided to let him start for the Jets all of a sudden. And he's kind of fallen on his face. I mean he kind of maybe not as bad as Wilson, but a little bit like that, you know. So let me ask you something, Zach Wilson, yeah, I don't know that poor guy. Well, that's what you get for banging your mom's friends, bro. So maybe if you did more of that and stop. I have nothing to do with what Sam just said. I don't know nothing about nobody's mother of anybody.

Starting point is 00:59:53 So go on. Not my good friend Rick Sanchez. Rick, so, so, you know, we can get into the media. You can't get into the media. You thak, you, you, you, th and, th and, th and, you know, you send me a bunch of notes and I don't want, we can't keep you forever, we don't care, we can talk about anything, you just wanted to have a conversation. My producer said they want you to give them a list of four specific stories that you want to discuss. That's for when we get it to specific stories that I have to pull shit out of, so, no, no, no, these are great and I'd love to have professional. professional. professional. professional. Profi. Profi. It's professional. It's professional. It's professional. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, the, I, the, to, to, to, to, to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, the, th. to. th. th. to. to. to, to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, out of. So for me like we're in this real, like I'm a spiritual guy. This shows all about spiritual skepticism of the official narrative.

Starting point is 01:00:33 That's really where we like to be. And you know, so we have this whole thing going on with Twitter, the Twitter files, they're called and what's being. And that is basically the protection of Hunter Biden's laptop. And so the reason I would like to talk to you, because do you feel that there was any of that on older stories where like, man, there's a real feeling that there's something here, but our bosses want us to direct our viewers in a different direction? Did that ever happen? And... No, it's not to direct our viewers in a different direction. Did that ever happen? And no, it's not that direct. It's never been that direct.

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Starting point is 01:02:05 You're just gonna, you're just gonna do it. You know what to do if you work at MSNBC, I'm not gonna do the Hunter Biden story. It's just some dumbass kid who's like a idiot drug addict who slept with all his brother's wives and all the shit. That's not a story. Well, it may be a story but you're not even going to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look to look the the to look to look to look the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. You're they. You're they. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you's, you's, you's, you's, you's, you's, you's, you's, you're. You's, you're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the they. they. the the to the th. to to work. th. to work. to work. th. the th. th. That's not a story. You know, well, it may be a story, but you're not even going to look at it. On the other end, you know, same thing could happen on the right with a Fox News reporter who's just not going to cover something because it might make Biden look good. So yeah, that kind of stuff happens all time. But no, the answer to your question is, it's never an order, it's never written down, it can never be traced to any one specific mandate. Okay, so, you know, Trump, I mean, excuse me, Twitter. Can I can, sorry, just really, what about the Roger Ailes days? Or are those different at Fox?

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Starting point is 01:03:26 stuff, they came in, you know, loaded for bear. They were even ahead of ails in that sense. So, but yes, Roger dictated ideology to his producers and his lieutenants. What about those videos that you see that they it puts all the news casting at one time and they're all saying the same thing at the same time oh yeah that's local news and I've always felt local news does a lot more damage than people think yes because nobody's paying attention to it on a national level which means you you have to be in that city watching for the story to be and you be like th th th that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th that that that th the that that the the that that that th that that that that that that that the the the that's the that's the the the the the the their their their their their their their the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is the the is not the is not the is not ttttty. ty. ty. tty. ty. ty. they. they. means you have to be in that city watching

Starting point is 01:04:06 for the story to be, and you'll be like, that's not real, and then start to actually record it. I don't know how that story was put out because I don't know how he knew all those different, but it's incredible. That was Sinclair, I've always felt that that was where a lot of the damage is done. We get into, you know, one of the issue, well, well, just, just, just, just, just, just, well, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, well, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, th. that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. that's, th. th. th. th. th. that's felt that that was where a lot of the damage is done. We get into, you know, one of the issues. Well, just by the way, I mean, if we have to go there, I think it's important for us to go there, this is a very important point. The moment we changed the laws and allowed giant groups to own tons of outlets. Like it used to be you could own one newspaper in your town and you could own two radio stations

Starting point is 01:04:50 and you could own one TV station. Then they said four TV stations and they said five newspapers after a while, they said, screw it, own all you want. Well, duh, what the hell do you think is gonna happen when one person owns 50 TV stations? What are you gonna get at those 50 TV stations? You're gonna get at thi? A, th................ A, th. A, th. A, th. A, the, th. A, th. A, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tons, tons, tons, tons, to to to to tons, tons, tons, tons, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, to to tons, to to is going to happen when one person owns 50 TV stations? What are you going to get at those 50 TV stations? You're going to get one ideology, one thought process and that in and of itself is not just stupid. It's an American, it's on Democratic, but hey that's where we are and that's, well you mentioned Sinclair, that's inclare. So, so, so Rick, one of the things things things things things things things things thi thi thi thi thi you mentioned Sinclair that's in clear so so Rick one of the things that we kind of wanted to talk about and I think there was a

Starting point is 01:05:29 weird interpretation between when we're discussing coming on that is what's going on in Arizona with the with the elections now I am old okay I want before getting that because you brought up a really good point I'm old enough to remember when they deregulated media, when Clinton came in, deregulated the media. And you know, we've wanted to do a show, we should do an episode on this one time where we watch the debate between George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton, and we just watched the pro wrestling theatrics that that was because later on information comes out that the CIA is running cocaine through Arkansas and so they weren't adversaries, they were just two wings of the same bird, right?

Starting point is 01:06:17 So we just, and now we start to understand that. We start to see this more because the internet has allowed us to have this kind of communication with each other where we can freely share information. Now, I'm old enough to remember when Bill Clinton deregulated the media, there was a big outcry going, why are you doing this? What is the purpose of this? Rick, do you remember when that happened and what your thoughts were when they did that? Well, yeah, I mean, you know, you could argue that that deregulation actually, you know, destroyed objective reporting. Because, and it was a combination of presidencies and times, and I don't understand how, you know, it happened.

Starting point is 01:07:06 I mean, Ronald Reagan in 1987 revoked the fairness doctrine, for example. That's the beginning of it. Yeah, when you revoke the fairness doctrine that essentially says that you, you know, you're allowed to just give one opinion and you don't have to present the other opinion, then what the hell? I mean, you're basically saying you could just go on the air and just spout whatever the hell you wanna spout, which is, what does that sound like?

Starting point is 01:07:30 It sounds like watching cable news these days, right? So that's kind of what happened. And then they doubled down and said, the fairness doctrine, you also now don't have to have the laws that allow us to have only one person have so much media in their hometown, which is really what you want. I mean, I Rick Sanchez happen to live in Fort Lauderdale. I care about Fort Lauderdale. So I should be the guy who owns the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel or the Miami Herald, which is, you know, the same city essentially.

Starting point is 01:08:05 I should not own the Seattle newspaper. I don't know crap about Seattle. Great town, love it. But I don't know anything about Seattle. Why would they let me own the Seattle paper and the Minneapolis paper and the St. Louis paper? I'm not going to give a shit about those people. And once they did that and they said and or all the TV stations or all the

Starting point is 01:08:25 radio stations. That's how we got to where we are today. And it's putrefying. It's horrible. I mean it's warm puke that you see in the terrestrial media space today because in many ways those laws were taken away. You're absolutely right, Sam. So, so, thank you know, I had just moved to LA. I think I was in to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to their their their their their their to their their their their their. their. their. to where where where. to where where where where. to where where where. to where. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. to. tod. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. the. the. the. the. we clip that? So I really, so one of the, you know, I had just moved to LA, I think I was in LA for about a year. I think I moved there in either 98 or 99. The 2000 election happens. I personally, this is Sam speaking, not Rick, and then we'll, Rick, we're almost at an hour, so we'll figure out when you want to jump, but I would love to get into this week I felt that CNN by not calling for Florida for El Gore is the beginning of the process of the hanging chads and oh we got to spin it back to George Bush and get George Bush in because this is Sam speaking. I think 9-11 was already in the process And they needed Dick Cheney in there. That's Sam speaking

Starting point is 01:09:30 So I you know obviously I don't think El Gore was a savior or anything, but I L. Gore didn't have Dick Cheney on his team Fast forward to Bernie Sanders, and now we have Bernie Sanders is doing stadiums. People come see them and I don't like socialism. I'm a capitalist. I would take crony capitalism over socialism any day but I prefer pure capitalism okay. I'm making no illusions of that. I don't like the capitalism we have right now. I don't like how giant corporations can game the system. But Bernie, I've always said elections, the people should get who they want, even if I don't agree with the politicians. Agreed. And so Bernie Sanders is doing

Starting point is 01:10:17 stadiums while you know Hillary Clinton's doing Sam Tripoli numbers in a fucking cafeteria, okay? And so and then all of a sudden we're seeing, oh Hillary wins, it doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't make any sense to me. Now we fast forward to Trump, again, Joe Biden's not doing anything that nobody's, and I'm saying this is Sam speaking, Rick again, that we are, you know, nobody showing up the Bernie Sanders things. Trump's got a hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred hundred.. th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And thi, thi, then, then, then, then, then, then, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And, th. And, th. again, that we, you know, nobody showing up to Bernie Sanders things. Trump's got a 100-mile convoy in Arizona, and everyone's telling me he didn't take Arizona. Okay, now we go to-

Starting point is 01:10:53 Random convoys throughout the whole fucking country. So now we get to this election in Arizona. And Rick, what are your thoughts on what's going on in Arizona? Because Whitney Webb has been our show and you should talk to her sometime. She's really great. She has said that their goal is to get us to have no faith in the election process. Like this kind of buckbreaking going on, this kind of breaking our spirits, breaking our will, making people think that the people have no say. And the elites get their person every freaking time time time time time time time to time time to to to to to their their to their to their to to to their to their their to their to they that the people have no say and the and that the elites get their person every freaking time. So no I mean first of all you need to watch 537 votes 537 votes watch that.

Starting point is 01:11:35 It's a documentary by Billy Corbin. Billy is a dear friend of mine I'm sure you've interviewed him many times. He's got a new documentary out right now about how Jerry Falwell sat in his hotel the hotel room a hundred times while some pool boy Cuban guy like me but younger and much better looking and a better shape, you know, essentially did his wife. Hey, again, I'm not judging, what's the same? Again, I'm not judging, whatever you're with, as long as you're not hearing kids, get weird.

Starting point is 01:12:03 But by the name is Jerry. I get it. I get it because you're presenting something. Listen, whenever I see those cuck videos and you see the guy sitting there and he's crying, he's not crying because his wife is cheap. He's crying because he doesn't have to move out and he gets to live in the house house that he fucking paid the mortgage for. But yeah, so you're right about Bush v. Gore, Gore won that election.

Starting point is 01:12:26 There's no question in my mind that Gore won that election. 537 votes again is Billy's documentary and Billy's a great guy. Smart of shit, too. Yeah, we had him on bunch. Took a couple of years ago. Yeah, we've had him a couple of years. Yeah, we should have back on because I'd th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'd th. Yeah. We'd th. Yeah. We'd th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'd th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. I. I. I. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd th. I'd th. I'd. I'd. I'd. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd th. I'd love to hear about the cooking story. The new one, yeah, he's got a new one out. Everybody's talking about it all now. So, yeah, the cock hold of the Falwell's. Unbelievable. And by the way, and then, anybody's surprised. Then the Dems come and they steal the, uh, the race away from, from any Democrat who's not Biden

Starting point is 01:13:06 because they decided they wanted Biden there and they essentially fixed it. There's no question that they fixed it. I mean, they didn't fix the election per se, but they fixed the lead up to the election in the primaries, which is bullshit anyway. I don't know what that we have even those primaries for. And everything is bought and sold. And you can only get elected if you have a lot of money.

Starting point is 01:13:26 And there's actually a price for every position. Like if you want to be a senator in the United States, this is exactly how much money you have to come up with to be able to bribe the TV stations, to run your commercials. The whole thing is just absolutely horrible. As far as far as happening now with everybody denying every win, look, I just look at it, I'm sorry, but I look at it the way that I kind of live my life. If you and I, Sam, go out and play around a golf and you kick my ass,

Starting point is 01:13:58 or even if you only beat me because I was unfortunate, and on the last hole, you know, a bird flew by and hit my ball. And unfortunately, there's no rule that says that my ball hitting the bird allows me to do a replay and I lose and I'm gonna shake your hand and say, congratulations, Sam, you beat me tomorrow, maybe we'll do it again and I'll be lucky enough to win. All of these assholes who basically are losing elections and all they want to do is stand up and say that the other team cheated and I really won even though we know it's not true, that's really pissing me off. It's horrible, it's despicable. And what it's doing to our democracy is shameful and you know, you know, whether there ought to be a law. My friend John Stewart used to say, there ought to be a law.

Starting point is 01:14:45 They're probably ought to be a law. Like in basketball, you know, when you pretend you were fouled, you know, and what do they call that now? And they're now punishing these guys with flopping. Yeah, it's kind of like a flop. People should be held to dishonesty and we're not doing that right now. Are you concerned, Rick, right now with more of these Twitter files coming out that not only Joe Biden, and we're going to be like, because you know, Matt Talibe was great with

Starting point is 01:15:17 his reporting that there were people within the Trump. Matt Taibi, excuse me. Matt Taib. Was, uh, tell you was that trump Contacted the Twitter to have some stuff sent while he was with the government I mean right right so that is a violation of first amendment but we have this Katie homes like really going at people to to pull down people question the election and my question becomes to you is like are you concerned that a woman who had no no groundswell behind her stuff was in charge of her own election her the guy who ran Maricopa started a fucking super pack literally to stop Katie Lake it is in charge of that election and not katydi homes is going to twitter and having them ban or censor uh... twitter uh... accounts like does that

Starting point is 01:16:13 concern you i think carry lake is the most disgusting piece of shit i've ever seen in my entire life woman is a just a absolute disaster and uh... shots fire! I think I mean, with the possible exception of the pimple I occasionally wake up with on my anus. Oh, I can't have anything worse. She, she, young man, rumbles. And my people on a daily basis, criminals and rapists.

Starting point is 01:16:44 She says that we bring all the drugs into the United States. That's not true. You know who brings drugs in the United States? Americans. Not some poor guy from Honduras who's trying to make a living in the United States. Respect. What percentage? According to the Cato Institute of immigrants who cross the border bring drugs into United States? 0.02 percent.

Starting point is 01:17:05 Point 0.02 percent. The drugs coming into the United States are not coming through the places where some of these poor immigrants are coming, who by the way turn out to be the greatest workers in the history of this country and are right now. They come in rigs driven by guys with blonde hair and blue eyes, and they're coming across legal border lines, and they're coming in planes. So for her to get up and try and convince every American that we, Latinos, are the scum of the earth and she says it over and over and over again and somehow it barely gets covered in the media. I hear it, I see it, I cover it, but CNN doesn't cover it. I just

Starting point is 01:17:43 did a piece the other day where I showed how Carrie Lake was criticized by channel by CNN and by MSNBC because she criticized the election process. Not once in this little montaze that they created did they say, oh by the way she also says that Latinos are criminals and rapists. She says it. And you know, once you say her name, by the name, by the the name, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, by, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the by the way, she also says that Latinos are criminals and rapists. She says it. And, you know, once you say her name, I have unfortunately lost, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I can't say I'm, I'm anything objective anymore because I don't think I've ever seen anybody be that despicable. I can't stand her, so let me just say it. Okay. Are you, do you think that fentanyl is coming through the border? Oh, of course it is. But not the border where immigrants are coming in. It's coming through the legal borders. Oh, I respect. 18 wheeler

Starting point is 01:18:38 where they pay people off to get that 18 wheeler into the United States. It's not coming in the back pocket of some guy named Jose who's never had two nickels to rub together and he's trying to come into the United States. He's not the guy bringing it in. He's right. But that's what she's saying. Yeah, he's completely right.

Starting point is 01:18:54 Like, the cartel goes up to you. American, American citizens. Because what? And the more blonde you look, the water you can talk and you won't shake and you can get on the perfect answers, that's who they pick. He's right. It's not, it's not illegal. It's literally Mexican-American. They get paid one and they get a slap on the wrist. Google it's all there. They did a study on it just recently. Can I ask you, Rick, wait, were you surprised that Kerry Lake got 47% of Latino vote in Arizona? That's a great question. No, actually, no, actually, I wasn't. Did she get, was it that hard?

Starting point is 01:19:44 Yeah, it was 47 to 51, is what the the the the th. It that high? It was 47 to 51 is what I'm looking at here. She got 47% of the Latino vote. Now, this is national review I'm reading here, but yeah, that's what they're saying. Yeah, I don't know. I would find that a little bit suspect. I think in Arizona, I thought it was more in keeping with the national average, which is more like a 35-65, which is still good because remember Democrats used to get 70-30, maybe even 75-25. This is from Dan McLaughlin.

Starting point is 01:20:17 Now they're really moving Latinos into, with the exception of Florida, of course, where Florida's completely different. That's an outlier. but the rest of the United States it's still it was 70 30 now it's 65 65 35 and that's that means Republicans are truly making inroads with with Latinos and they should be making in roads with Latinos because the Democrats are doing absolutely nothing for Latinos. They don't even know who the hell we are. So now they do.

Starting point is 01:20:50 We're Latin-Latenex. He's going to keep doing their own thing. Yeah, we're Latin-X. They know who we are. Yeah. So let me ask you something, Rick. I think there's a big, you know, you brought up earlier and again whenever you got a jump you just tell us man we appreciate you coming on but yeah we'll do we'll make this the last one okay yeah so I got another gig I do there is a what do you do what

Starting point is 01:21:11 do you do you do like you're a man of a thousand jobs my friend you do a lot of work bro I actually yeah I actually I'm running this I'm starting a new to do thrown thin too th I th I th I th I tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the to tho to to to the to tho to to the to to the to to to to tho to tho to to to the the the the tho to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho the tho tho tho to the to to the to ty ty ty. tryoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to to to to'm doing with some friends we think will turn that into another IPO around 2024. I know. Respect, bro. So the big misconception, I need two questions and then we'll let you go. The big misconception with the elites is that Latinos are closer to urban culture than they are, let's say, to white culture. When I think Latinos are a lot more conservative than people think,

Starting point is 01:21:50 and, you know, if we look at Europe, which is going through a culture war right now, with weaponized immigration, bombing the fuck out of the Middle East, all these people run to get away from the bombs. Now you have like Islamic culture clashing with Western culture, but I think the big misconception that these elites did, and you could tell me if I'm a crazy conspiracy there's, but they have these Latinos coming up here who tend to have Catholic backgrounds, which is Christian backgrounds, and their family-oriented, they're hard workers, and they don't like a lot of

Starting point is 01:22:25 progressive craziness that's going on. And they would vote Republican if Republicans would stop saying that they're criminals and rapists. I agree with that, I really do agree with that. Final question. We, we, Latinos fit into the ideological makeup of the Republican Party. Family-oriented, hard-working, Christian roots. All that. the ideological makeup of the Republican Party, family-oriented, hard-working, Christian roots, all that stuff is there. Fight in wars, Latinos are joined the military, more than just about any group in the United States historically.

Starting point is 01:22:58 The commandant for the Marines just recently said, okay, enough. We've got to stop getting so many Latinos. Our entire Marine Corps is gonna have, you know, last names at that end in Z and stuff like that.. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so, so, so. So, so, so, so th. So, so th. So, it. So, it. So, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the, it's the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their. their. their, th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ti. today, today, today, today, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to stop getting so many Latinos. Our entire Marine Corps is gonna have, you know, last names that end in Z and stuff like that. So it's all there and it's good, unfortunately, the more we wanna like Republicans, the less Republicans tell us they like us, because if you watch OAN or Fox News or News Max, or any of these, all they do night in and night out is the border, those criminals criminals criminals criminals criminals criminals th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th those th th tho, all the border, all tho, the border, the the the the the the tho, all, all, and night out is the border, those criminals, those

Starting point is 01:23:25 rapists, those that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, after a while, you start to think, okay, look, man, if you don't want me, fine, I'll just go somewhere else. So, final question, we, you know, we get a lot of talk about, you know, got to get bi, b b b b b b b bi, bi, bi, bi, bi, bi, bi, bi, the bi, the bi, the bi, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi, thi, that, that, tha, tha, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. that, that, that, that, tha. And, tha. And, tha. And, after, after, after, th. And, th, oh, look, the Democrats do it when the Republicans do it to the Democrats. But is it really two different parties, or is it just, to me, is it just two wings of the Sancrup bird and this real, it just basically, I think it's all George Bush death cult? That's why I think it is. There are differences in the parties, but their differences are nothing compared to the horribleness that they represent, which is all the same. And that is the corruption, and that is the wars, and that is the interlocking, and all of

Starting point is 01:24:18 those things that make our country much worse. And both parties are the ones who are prone to believe in that, espouse that, and want to continue that, because it's the only way they would line their pockets. In what other world does somebody stay in office for 30 or 40 years in one place? In what world does a guy go in like Mitch McConnell making maybe $20,000 a year and today he's worth $35,000. $40 million by being what? A senator? How the hell does that happen? I mean, what are we stupid? I mean, you take a job where you serve the people and work essentially for $150,000 a year and you end up being worth $35 to $40 million. Okay, I'm stupid then.

Starting point is 01:25:09 I'll just go along with that. And that's where we are. So yeah, and that's not a Democrat problem. That's not a Republican party. That's an American political problem. So there's my last. All right, Rick, we had you. We talked a lot of weirdness. and you stuck with us and we, and we, and we, thia, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to to to to to to to to to to thi, and, and, and, and thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, too, too, too, too. And, too. And, too, too. And, too. And, too, too, too, too, to, we talked a lot of weirdness and you stuck with us and we appreciate

Starting point is 01:25:26 you. One more time, where can our listeners find you, Rick? The Rick Sanchez podcast, the Rick Sanchez podcast is, I think it's cool. I try to talk truth. I talk Latino truths and I talk about things that I think could help people. And it's all part of a new network we started called, the thia, thia, you so much for coming on. We're going to stay on. Rick, we appreciate you and we will talk to you soon. Thanks to coming on.

Starting point is 01:25:49 A big fan and I really glad you're killing it. And I apologize for anything I said that may have offended anyone. No, no, dude. Trust us. You're going to you. See you, buddy. Later. Um, that's fun. I like that guy. I like Rick Sanchez. Boy, he blew up on Carrie Lact. Oh, that was great. That was great.

Starting point is 01:26:11 I love Carrie Lake. That's what's cool about that guy, though, is that you know, you know, you know, you he's clearly not, you know, he's retained his humanity. I appreciate that because that is a big problem, man. There is this blanket statement on Latinos, and he's totally right that the fentanyl is coming through the legal borders and not being brought in by coyotes and people trying to get to the country. And that's that divisive shit that you're always talking about, you know, making people into separate smaller groups so that we don't, you know. Yeah, I told.

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Starting point is 01:28:29 I don't. So then he's doing all of this with an intention. 100% I don't know what that intention is though. Like I said, I think he's trying to break the board. Maybe. Yeah, but even when you have Alex Jones was to those comments, which was hilarious, watching Alex Jones. I thought it was extraordinary. I thought it was extraordinary. It's gripping. I'm going to be honest with you. Again, I made comments on Nick Fuentes that I really shouldn't have. We have met. I mean, he's got some lines though that are out there and that. Yeah, and that gets done, you know, you know, again, like we said earlier, I think Nick Fuentes

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Starting point is 01:31:09 little farther more right than even young Stein yeah way further yeah which is and you get do you get less of a sense that Fuentes is doing a character you know I mean like Stein is when he's doing it when he's provoking people, you know, he's doing that for effect. I don't, and I get, and maybe I don't think he actually is, but- No, he is like when he's doing the AOC, he's not, you know, big booty, he's laughing, he's joking around. No, I'm talking about Fwentess now. What I mean is he's, whether he is, whether he is, I he is, I he is, I he is, I the idea, I he, I he, I the idea, I is, I he, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, and I get, and I get, and I thi, I thi, and I get, and I thi, and I thi, and I thi, and I th. thi, and I th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I th. th. th. th. And, and, and, I th. th. th. th. And, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, and, and, I thi. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. And, you know, held opinions. Well, we talked about on Broken Sim, right?

Starting point is 01:31:47 About how like, I'm gonna say the most racist, sexist, and. Holocaust denying. Holocaust denying. You know, like, and for me, like, like, like, like, people really believe that that stuff. But I do believe that Nick is somebody who has a lot of data and again. Explain what you mean, but I don't quite understand what you mean. He has a lot of interesting information that most of us don't have. He makes good points. He makes good points that if they're true, they're shocking, right? And not everybody is ready for his presentation, because his presentation is blunt force

Starting point is 01:32:30 trauma. He just said, do you understand what I'm saying? Are you saying he does a disservice to his points with his presentation? Yes, I do. And listen, man, if everything he said on there about Jared Kushner is real and I have no reason to believe it's not, that's some pretty damning information. Like he basically brokered this Middle East deal that has some like religious apocalyptic stuff going on with it for money, right? That's great.

Starting point is 01:33:03 I didn't hear that. I didn't know that. That's crazy. But how he presents it is what people have issues with. Would we have either of them on? Would you have either of them on the show? Would you give them a... I... you know, like, dude, I have people in my life that I love very much. And I like debate. I like debate. I like talking debate. I like having people on.

Starting point is 01:33:30 But I get nervous when I get attributed with ideas I don't necessarily subscribe to. Yeah. I mean, that's how Alex Jones was saving himself. He kept saying I love Hitler. I don't love Hitler. And he was he was trying to defend's like it's that thing where it's on your show so if you don't fucking say it right after he says it, it looks like you agree. You have to do it.

Starting point is 01:33:52 You have to do it. You know? Can I ask you now? Have you, have you heard that? Fwentes is, possibly Fontas is possibly controlled opposition. Yes, and that's definitely possible as well. Like how does he move so quickly at 24? But then you study him and he's very intelligent.

Starting point is 01:34:16 So he's very intelligent. Well, if you're going to create a controlled opposition, you know. Well, they said that about Milo as well. You would pick somebody who's... He said that about Milo as well you would pick somebody who's he said that about Milo as well okay he wouldn't be so so banned so shadow banned if he was controlled opposition I don't know about that I don't know about that because that in itself creates credibility right so I I and he brings up interesting facts. Again, the energy I have right now for the pushback about the Jews in general is the same

Starting point is 01:34:53 energy I have when Hollywood and the woke left, excuse me, was saying the exact same thing about, um about white people. And you know you see how Rick got really upset with what Kerry Lake says about Latinos. You know that's my whole thing. It's like these generalizations do a lot more damage than they do good. And the whole push, oh, generalization. Yeah, that's a real point, man. Because you're condemning an entire group of people for the actions push, oh general's, yeah, that's a real point man, because you're condemning an entire group of people for the actions of a few.

Starting point is 01:35:31 That's what, but they brought, like listen dude, ye one hundred percent talked about, yay, yeah excuse me, yay, yeah that's no calm, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's no fungillity. thi that too. Yeah. Yeah, it's so calm. Yeah, I don't know, fuck. Talked about the Black Nobility. I think that's huge. Oh, Johnny, you weren't there. I watched it on the way from Calusa to Fresno with him and Eddie Bravo. It was the best.

Starting point is 01:35:57 Sam was going crazy when they brought up the Medici family. Yeah, that's incredible to me. And then, honestly, and I sent you this text when this interview dropped, I'm like, he's, he should be on the show now. He's in like our ballpark now. He's on our curb. You know what I mean? Yes.

Starting point is 01:36:14 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's at the point now, we wouldn't surprise me if we got him on the show. show with some yes yes you know he would fit in so so I and then you know you had you had and you could say whatever you want about Alex Jones you could say whatever you want we have been blessed to meet him in person he is a wonderful person. He's a very nice person. You meet Alex Jones, the only thing you go is like this guy, his brain is constantly going and he's stretched

Starting point is 01:36:53 too thin. And it's who he is on the camera. He did not stop like that that loudness, that voice, it's who he is. He's a good guy. Okay, he's a good guy. So he he was talking about basically Kazarian's. And he brings up stuff that we've talked about on the show, which is, why did Israel, if Jews all move at one, and this was his point, they all move as one collective group, why did the government of Israel, okay? Why did the government of Israel give Israeli citizens four shots of the vaccine, including the boosters, when they knew it did damage to people and it causes health damage

Starting point is 01:37:37 and possibly death? Why did they do that? Why does that happen? That fits into that this is a spiritual war? Why would we do that? Why does that happen? That fits into that this is a spiritual war. Why would we do that? So, you know, so this is what we're getting. So I got a fight with Brian Callan who I love with all my heart and everyone just takes him too serious. Like, this is a fun debate between friends. He doesn't believe what I believe, and it's a fun debate and I love him very much you know and I go hey bud what he said about things that Hitler did is the same thing when people walk around with NASA shirts on and stuff like that or when people are okay with IBM or Microsoft or the Bushes or all that I mean or supporting Nazis in the Ukraine You're doing you're doing what he is talking about

Starting point is 01:38:30 That's all the point was and it's 100% right now What what Johnny brought up is is his performance art? I 100% believe it is what so you don't think he's having a mental breakdown Everybody claims it's both. It's both. I think it's both? I think it's both? I think he thinks it's performance art though? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're the... So you don't think he's having a mental breakdown how everybody claims? It's both. I think it's both. I think he thinks it's performance art though. I think he is broken, hurt, angry, and putting on a show. Okay. Now because I mean when he comes out there with that face covering instantly you're like oh of what's the name of the fashion Anger? What Johnny knows? Valciaga? Yeah? Valencia. the the the the the thia. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he-I. he-I. he, when. he, when. he, he, he, I he, I he, I he, I he, I he- I he, I he he he he he he he he he he. I he. I he. I he. I he. I he. I he. I he. I he, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I he, I he, I he, I he, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. think. think. think. think. think. think. think. think. think. think. th. think th. th. I th. I thi. I he he he the name of the fashion angersie? What Johnny knows? Bonsillagi or what is it? Valenciaga? Yeah. Valenciaga.

Starting point is 01:39:08 When he comes out and that, you gotta go, what are you talking about? And then when Elon, that was some crazy shit. Oh, the thing about you're saying Elon is what, a Chinese clone? So he, so the, the interview happens. He puts out, of a religion that is, believes aliens created us and it's like realism or something like that. And their logo is a swapsika inside the Sard David. Oh they get, you see this one yet? In the more...

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Starting point is 01:40:21 of Hinduism. Remember that summer camp that had to knock down those spots? Yeah, you told me, yeah. Because Indian woke people don't know history. Okay, so he puts out the symbol from this Real religion, right? I think it's R-A-E-L-Ism. And it's- A-A-L-Ism. R-A-E-L-Ism. And it's... Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:47 And their logo, because their leader said, he saw a ship of aliens and that was the logo on the ship. It's a UFO religion that was founded in the 70s in France by Claude Verrillion, Varlane, now known as Rael. Scholars of the Religion classify railism as a cult and a new religious movement. The group is formalized as the International Ralean Movement or the Ralean Church.

Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah, and they believe what you said? Yeah. About UFOs. So, so that look, here's an interesting thing. Do you know who's an honorary member of that group? Who's that? Elon Musk. Interesting.

Starting point is 01:41:28 Right? And so, and the ship that they came in is like, Iman. It's like very close to Elon. It's very interesting, okay? And then, you know, so, so he puts this out. He, he, either is completely lost and doesn't always do it and it just perfectly works out or he knows exactly what he's doing or he googled swaska star David and that came up and he just put that

Starting point is 01:41:57 this is the actual where this is the tweet they got him banned from Twitter is what you're talking about okay yeah because uh there's it's, the Australian Ralean movement wrote a blog entry saying that Kanye West and Elon Musk both need education on the Ralean symbol. It's like kind of when you brought up on porn hub trying to sponsor a stadium. Oh yeah, yeah. Everyone's just a fucking clout chasing. Here's what the leader of the US Ralean movement said. While Elon Musk was made an honorary guide for humanity by the Ralean movement not too long ago for his support of freedom of speech, he doesn't seem to be aware of the true origin

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Starting point is 01:43:26 matter is is like why doesn't anyone talk about King Leopold? This is all this is why I say all is being exposed right now. It's just the best time ever if you're not enjoying this timeline you're fucking lost bro! This is the best! He was wrong wrong though. Hiller did not create the microphone Or the highway yeah, but do you understand like bad? He could have came in with facts like if you're gonna talk about Hitler like that At least fucking say something that's correct instead of just saying you made a microphone. This is why I'm a rapper right. Okay, great. I agree. I agree with that's I'm saying. I'm sure. I'm saying you guys good points. He's good. th???? th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the th. the th. the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He they. He their their their their their their their their their their their their they. He they. He they I'm sure that's a good point. But he's also crazy. You have to go there's, within the crazy, there's some truth. Again, it goes back to, it goes back to Eddie Griffin on stage doing four hours. Within that four hours, there's 30 minutes. That's absolutely amazing. Yeah. You're like, fuck dude, if you just wheeled down that you would would go down as a great thing comic of all time. Right? And that's a, if that presentation was done better, and like again, like Nick Fuentes is an incredibly smart human being. Like, excuse me, very intelligent.

Starting point is 01:44:36 We'll see how smart he is. Because right now he has no clue of how to present what he's doing. Maybe he doesn't care, but that's a 24 year old not caring, right? Yeah, but the only problem is everything's permanent now, like he said. 100%? When you were 24, it didn't matter. Yes. When I was 24, it still, it wasn't, it wasn't that crazy. The question is Rick, is Rick, is Rick, it's the name. Nick Fuentes is gonna be like, Mia Calipha is like,

Starting point is 01:45:07 denying her pass, right? Like, you know, she's like, I didn't do that. I didn't shut up, I don't want to talk about. I say the same the other day with her like lecturing us about how older men shouldn't date younger women. Yeah, I love that the older that do that. That's my favorite thing. It's like, dude, welcome to the arc of life. But the point is... And how white is he if his last name is Fuentes? What? How white is he if his last name is Fontas? That's a great point, dude. It's not, it doesn't sound real white to me. Yep. I mean, so I thought it was an extraordinary thing. I think he said amazing things thi thi thi. thi. this th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. art of art of art of art of art ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar ar. the the the the the the the the the the the the the was an extraordinary thing. I think he said amazing things.

Starting point is 01:45:45 Now, I want to get into this. And you know, you started seeing him talk about Zionism. And here's the thing. We have a guy who lost his mother. Some guy yelled, that was a while ago. Oh, I'm sorry. Do you get over losing your mother in a time? Most people carry that for the rest of their life.

Starting point is 01:46:05 My mother's, my grandparents died 25 years ago. My mother still talks about it, okay? So to sit there and act like, that isn't a big thing to that guy, which we all know it is. So she was the only one that could rail, do you think this would all be happening if his mother was alive today? He makes albums named after her. Yeah, do you think this would be happening right now if his mother was alive? It does seem to have been a turning point for sure.

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Starting point is 01:47:02 Now you, because of you because of you because of you right and then you get into these succubuses his wife is a succubus she's a witch he's addicted to her though yeah I think he is he won't let it go I'd sad oh dude what about shots fired at Chris Paul imagine being at the Paul house that night he said he's friends a ray J now that that's the only person he trust Pete Davidson just is tearing the the the the the the the the the the the the the he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he to he th the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thus. the the the. the. the. the. thi thethat's the only person he trust. Pete Davidson just is tearing through all the Hodgicks in the world. He's becoming Jewish, he's becoming Jewish now just to piss off Kanye. He was with court side with Emily Radacowski the other night. Well because it's cloud chasing. That's why.

Starting point is 01:47:36 If you're with Pete, you're everywhere. Clout than him. I mean, Emily Radkowski is more famous than he is. Dude, he brings clout, bro. I think he brings the hammer. He may be the only one that survives the Kardashian curse. You think so? Oh, but I mean, is there anyone who looks more like the product that he's pitching in a commercial than Pete Davison and Taco Bell? If Taco Bell was a human being it would look like Pete Davenson. Right? mean he's got dead eyes, bro. I mean that guy's window to his soul is not good, okay? Well you know dude I saw him on he was on some radio show the other day and he said that he's been on Lexpro since he was like 12. Yeah, that's not good. That's not good. So you have this guy losing his kid and then you have him, then you have him losing his mom and then he loses his kids, man.

Starting point is 01:48:29 Like people don't realize how much that fucks with people. Like we just assume like men don't want kids in their life. Men, a lot of men love their kids and what happens is, and I see that happen in my friends around me. They concede all this stuff to the women. And by the way, ladies, there's a lot of scumbag guys out there. I'm not arguing with that. There's a lot of scumbag dudes out there.

Starting point is 01:48:55 And there's a lot of single mothers doing the best they can. There's no set rule. Both sides deal with a lot of bullshit. But there's a lot guys that lose the, Cussie, to their kids because they're trying to play nice with the mom. And it blows up in their face, and they don't get to see their kid, and it crushes them. And I think that's a big thing that's going on with Kanye right now. He has nothing to lose like you said his mom his kids his wife his brand Adidas everybody on that bill yeah yeah everybody on that plan will have nothing to lose so you know hurt people hurt people okay and that's what's

Starting point is 01:49:34 going on with Kanye right now and there's a bunch of people around him that got canceled they they's calling and talking to that may or may not have his best interest. Wait, I don't quite follow. Who are you talking about? Nick Flintez, Milo, you know? Oh, I see. Okay, so he's just kind of reaching out for... You think they're using him as plans?

Starting point is 01:49:57 You think Milo and Nick Flintz are kind of press? Well, Nick Flintel has had this kind of press. I mean for sure, anybody who has him on is there is somehow using his, is he, I mean, for sure. So that's my opinion on it, you know, again. Hey, you gotta read that. You believe in that clone shit he brought up earlier today? Yeah, I mean, I'll read here. Okay, this is something that Kanye posted. Am I the only one who thinks Elon could be half Chinese? Have you ever seen his picks as a child?

Starting point is 01:50:25 Take a Chinese genius and mate them with a South African supermodel, and we have Elon. I say in Elon because they probably made 10 to 30 Elon's, and he's the first genetic hybrid that's stuck. Well, let's not forget about Obama. I'm sorry for using curse words in church, but I don't have another word for Obama yet. Yay, 24, let's unify and find out. I love that about Obama too. I'll take that as a compliment. I mean, Elon Musk, I mean, I'm sorry, but in this instance,

Starting point is 01:50:59 Kanye got him. By taking, by banning him over a symbol that's from a religion. You look stupid. You look fucking stupid. And it's just the way it is. And I'm sorry, bro. And you're doing great thing. Do you think that that decision went by Elon's desk to ban Kanye from? He commented on it. No, but after the fact. But do you think like initially they come to him like, do you think they're coming to him with high-profile bannings now like Elon? Yeah. Yeah. For sure, right? I do too. All the time. It's fascinating though. Yeah. Like that this guy, Elon, who's got all this shit on his plate. thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi. thi. they're thi. thi. thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they they're they they're they they they they're they they they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're coming. they're Twitter. But you don't think Kanye also was trying to see how far he can push Elon? No, I mean... And at one point Elon's going to be like, okay, you gotta stop.

Starting point is 01:51:51 That there are people who, their whole, um, their whole brand is being canceled. Yeah. That's what they do. And that's how you stay relevant by being canceled more and then that's your whole and the most you know and like the fact that Laura Lumer came on who I've always thought was controlled opposition and she's like I've been canceled by by the high-ranking Jews. She said that which is super interesting because I think she's Zionist to the bone. Her whole election that she ran was a Zionist election

Starting point is 01:52:30 in Florida and she didn't win and then she said she had her accounts frozen like and she's like you should never have your money taken away 100% truth. That's 100% true no matter what your opinion is they shouldn't take your money. They shouldn't take your money taken away. 100%! That's 100% true. No matter what your opinion is, they shouldn't take your money. They shouldn't take your money. And it's just a fact. And it sucks. As a show and a person that's been banned and shadow banned on so many things, it sucks. You know? So we'll see. We'll see. And it is what it is. Guys, go to Sam Tripli.com. Check out Sam Tripoli.com. And you will find shows coming up. But I want to take a look at it. Really just go to Sam Tripoli.com. I want you guys again. A lot of great things are going on at Rockfin, that's all the premium content we have, Rockfin.com slash Tinfall Hat slash Zero slash Conspiracy Social Club slash

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Starting point is 01:54:14 So you're getting 24 episodes for $16. That's not including the first look at Broken Sim. If you're looking to invest, there's some great shows. We have a great show on Patreon, Patreon.com. Cash Daddies. The people love it. Howie Doe is on fire. You're making money in this awful time and you'll make your $20 back probably on your first investment. It's happening left and right. And then if you want, Johnny and I can give you, we'll watch you make love and we'll sit there. And Johnny and I have been talking.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to troo. troo. tro. tro. tro. trooo. troo. trooo. Patreon. Patreon. Patreon. Patreon. Patreon. th., we'll watch you make love and we'll sit there.

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Starting point is 01:57:56 Almost sold out. We don't smoke the same. This Saturday, ticket to the Vemprite. to the VIP tickets. the Venbride.com almost sold out get the VIP tickets it'll be worth it for you guys. Johnny if you're in LA I've got two tickets to K-Rox acoustic Christmas you can see the yeah yeah yes hit me up face value trying to get rid of I may get one of those guys thank you so much we love you very much take care Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning.

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