Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #628: The False Memory Syndrome Foundation With Scott Armstrong

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Starting point is 00:01:07 Without you guys, we would just be talking to herself. We got a really great show. We got Scott Armstrong on from Rebunked to News. And he's got a great topic, bro. Fascinating. It's a fascinating topic and I hope you guys are going to enjoy a lot of like how would you dark energy yeah yeah it's a heavy it's a heavy top false memory syndrome we'll be talking about which is an air heavy air quote yeah a lot of air quoting on

Starting point is 00:01:36 that well a lot air quoting so we appreciate Scott for coming on it's a great show if you want to see Sam Tripoli live that's me I'm gonna I have one more show this year and it's this next Wednesday th the the the or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or the or the or the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. We th. We th. We th. We th. I th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I they. I the. I the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the the they., that's me. I'm gonna, I have one more show this year and it's this next Wednesday, December or December 14th in the main room, two shows, two killer line up. I'm very excited. Go to go to Sam Tripoli.com hit events, buy your tickies now. Bobby Lee, Andrew Santino in the first show and then the second show is Matt, Matt Riff. B. B. B. B. B. B. the. the. the. the. the. th. I. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. And, and it. I. It. It. And, the. It's. It's. It's. It's. And, the, the, the, or, the, or, or, or, or, the, the, the, the, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, the, or, the, the, the, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or. the, or. the, or. the, the. the. the. the. It. It, the. It, the. It, the. It, the. It, the. It, the. It, the. It's, the. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the and Whittie Cummings in the first show and then the second show is Matt Riff Matt Riff at a Bravo Elnor Carragane Jimmy Dore and Kurt Metzker so we'll see how that goes grab your tickets both shows should sell out guys again go to Sam treaty dot com get on our get on our email list we're gonna start saying out emails here. Check out our premium content at Rockfin.com, whether it's Timfall Hat, zero,

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Starting point is 00:03:21 It's a rebunked news, and I'm very excited to have a mom. Please welcome back to Tim Foll Hat. Scott Armstrong. How are he, Scott? How are you, what's up, Sam? Man, I'm very, very stoked to be here, very grateful. Thank you so, you know, I got a lot of love for you, Sam. Like, you've come through sit, let everybody know. Like, okay, so I got fired for my job in August 2021

Starting point is 00:03:47 as a drug and alcohol counselor for not taking the stupid injection. And I created a go for, or a give send go thing. And who was the very first person to give me like a very generous donation? That was Mr. Sam Tripoli. So, thank you, brother. You've been there for me like, you've been there for, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you your name. I love it and that's very kind of view and I do like helping people. I do believe the way to prosper is to give it away and, you know, stuff like that. You know, it was a worthwhile cause and I'm very appreciative of you saying what you said wasn't

Starting point is 00:04:18 necessary, but thank you very much. Scott, for those who may not be familiar with you and all your work, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where they can find you? Yeah, man, for sure. So, my name's Scott Armstrong. The current show is Rebunked. the news, you know, I used to do a show called Truthzilla. And you know, I ended up leaving that show earlier this year and kind of the same time picked up and moved from Oregon out here to Nashville, Tennessee, where I'm currently broadcasting my show out of the Last American Vagabond Studios.

Starting point is 00:04:50 I partnered up here with Ryan and I've run in his sub-stack page, so I'm working on writing and curating, and creating little, you know, creating content for the Last American Vagabond Substack. So that's been a real awesome, you know, really awesome blessing to be able to work with Ryan. And we are, we've announced it publicly, but it's kind of still in the infant stages, but we are launching our own media company called Pirate Stream Media, which will officially be rolled out here in January. That's myself, Ryan Christian from The Last American, Turner, from the Courtney Turner podcast who is another fantastic podcaster here in the Nashville area. So well wonderful wonderful a lot of great people out there in Tennessee my

Starting point is 00:05:29 Maria is out there we also have Tony Merkels out there in Chattanooga I believe he's in so a lot of bangers out there to Tennessee area and I'm happy you took a dive and you know and it paid off you went for it and that's great you you jumped in headfirst and it really worked out for you and I'm very excited to have this topic that to talk to you about because basically we want to get into false memory syndrome and I think the human mind is so interesting. And it's so much more complex than people really understand. And I remember one time, and this I'll kick it off, I may have told a story on the show, but I don't remember, so I'm going to tell it again.

Starting point is 00:06:18 So when I was young, me and my friends and all the local teens would terrorize this one, like little store. And the people who ran it weren't very nice to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us the the the thui thi the thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the local teens would terrorize this one like little store and the people who ran it weren't very nice to us and we were a bunch of young punks and we, you know, and I looked back and I probably wasn't operating in the most high vibrational way. But I was young and trying to figure out life and so outside this convenience store there was an ice a big ice where you could go buy some ice. And one of the guys I know, I'm not going to say his name because this was over 30 years ago. This has to be almost 40 years ago, right? 40, 40, not 40, probably about 35 years ago.

Starting point is 00:07:00 I see him and he's messing with the ice machine. He breaks it open and he takes out all the bags ice and he's just chucking them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them the their their their messing with the ice machine, he breaks it open and he takes out all the bags ice and he's just chucking them everywhere and he's being destructive because that's what teens do. And I'm like, this is not good, let's get out of here, right? So me and my buddy El Dorado, we walk off, we're walking around all of a sudden we hear cop cars everywhere and that's like, that lets you know how the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th...a.a.a.a.a..a.a.a.a, th.a, th.a, th. I, th. I, thi. I, th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, thi. I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thin, they. I's, they. I's, ta, ta, toge.a, toge.a, toge.a, toge.a, they's, toge.a, toge's like, that lets you know how the times and how small the town is that the cops are showing up for ice, right? So, it's literally water, right? So, so we, we're about to turn back around, we start walking back

Starting point is 00:07:39 and the owner of the, the convenience store pulls up next to start screaming, You fucking shit, you did this. I'm, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.. the the convenience store pulls up next to start screaming, you fucking shit, you did this all, I'm like, I did nothing! I wasn't even, I didn't do nothing, trust me, I'm not even over there. So I walk back and the cops are interviewing the person who did this, and I am watching this person scream bloody hell about how innocent they are. To the point that if I hadn't saw him do it, I would actually believe he didn't do it. And he compartmentalized the whole thing in his head into a dark area of his mind, where he no longer recognized what that was,

Starting point is 00:08:22 and he created this new reality in which he was being framed for throwing ice. What if he was just a good actor? Because I mean, I know where you're coming from, he could act like it didn't happen. Like I've lied before where I believe my own lie. Yeah, but see, what you said right there is you believed your own lie. You start to convince yourself of your own lie. Do you understand? There's a difference between acting and the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, what thi, what th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What th. What, what th. What, what th. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what th. What th. He th. He th. He th. He, what, what, what th. He th. He, what th. He, what th. He th. He, what thi, what thi, what thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. He was thi. He's thi. He's thi. He was thi. He was thi. He was thi, what thi, what thi, what thi, what th convince yourself of your own lie. Do you understand? There's a difference between acting and there's a difference between... I love that you were

Starting point is 00:08:50 there too and he's like, yeah, me and Sam, we had nothing to do with this. I don't know. I was saying, I was saying, I go, and I just remember just staring at it going, wow. This guy's actually believes he did, because you could tell the difference between acting, and you could tell somebody who fully believes what he's saying. What's your whole... So let's get into this. What do you want to start there, Scott? Well, totally. I mean, what you're describing there is like, to me, it's rings of like, complete sociopaths, like somebody that has like a disassociation with with reality and can compartmentalize and can like just has no empathy or

Starting point is 00:09:28 any like you know compassion or just like you know there's something something there and I think like with this false memory syndrome foundation all the ramifications of it I think we're dealing with a lot of sociopaths a lot of people who don't regard like other people's feelings because like this case as you you know'll talk about, like it involves some of the most high profile murders, assassinations and like sex crime cases that have ever been, you know, and this false memory syndrome, particularly the foundation has been like marshaled to discredit victims to, you know, come in defense of all these people, you know, it's crazy stuff, you know. But yeah, I mean, as far as like, you know, the whole story is just nuts, man. And I've been, I've been looking into this story for a long time,

Starting point is 00:10:16 because it, uh, one of the main people, her name is Professor Jennifer Freed, I think. So what we want to talk about is false memory syndrome and what is false memory syndrome and then we'll get into the players. Totally. Yeah, exactly. So false memory syndrome is something that the false memory syndrome foundation came up with. It's not an official diagnosis.

Starting point is 00:10:36 It's not in the DSM. It's something that they were trying to get to be like an officially diagnosable condition, but it never to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be.. to be. to be. the to be. the to be to be the to be. the to be. to be. to be. to be like, the. I. the to be, to be, to be. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the th. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. toe. to. to. to. t. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. to. to. the never was able to reach that threshold, that criteria. And basically what it is is, basically that it comes down to its therapeutic malpractice. Their assertion is that these people that are having these so-called false memories are actually having these memories implanted by therapists who are intentionally and maliciously planting them in their brains. They're literally asserting that all of these false memories are the result of a therapist implanting these memories in their head, right? That's basically the gist of it.

Starting point is 00:11:17 There is a guy who, let's see, his name is Dr. John Kilstrom, Professor Psychology at Yale University, and he describes it as a condition in which a person's identity and interpersonal relationships are centered around a memory of traumatic experiences, which is objectively false, but in which the person strongly believes, right? You know, I mean, to a certain extent, we can't, to a certain extent we can all get on board with the fact that, you know, our memories aren't perfect and like, you know, in certain courts of law, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, they.e.e.e.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. their, the, the, the, the, the, the, that you know our memories aren't perfect and like you know and certain courts of like in the court of law like like you can't like usually a testimony of a witness is not like you know there's some there's some credibility issues there right I can't remember what the burden of proof is with that but you know what I mean like you can't just rely on a person's

Starting point is 00:11:57 eyewitness account in these situations so I mean we all understand that like memories aren't perfect, but what they're trying to orchestrate here is that these are memories that have been planted in people's heads. And it's really been weaponized in a crazy, crazy way. So that's kind of the gist of false memory syndrome, which is not like a technically a syndrome. It's just something that they're, they throw around to try and discredit victims really is what it is. Okay, so what I find, this is very interesting because I find that there's a discrediting coming from maybe prosecutors, you know, establishment trying to discredit victims.

Starting point is 00:12:42 And I also find that this is much easier to pull off in today's society because we do have people who come forward with false stories of situation. I mean, like I myself have witnessed it with friends of mine, where people were accused someone of doing something and if you really take a look at it, you would probably believe it didn't happen. And there are friends of mine that they've been accused very publicly of stuff which I believe

Starting point is 00:13:16 didn't happen. I do find it very in. I think the Me Too movement has caused a lot of, I mean I mean like let's be honest, like how many times you hear a woman accuse a very successful person of something the whole time you go okay is there money involved in this is there, I mean it's just sad but yeah no I was just gonna say I completely agree and I think that you know in this day and age like there's incentive and financial incentive to to take advantage of a situation like that absolutely, you know, and I think that they're very, you know, distinct things.

Starting point is 00:13:47 No, anytime, anytime an accusation starts with a press conference, I have questions. You know what I mean? Exactly. And it's civil. Like for me, it's like, if it's civil before, it's criminal, I go, okay, what's going on with that, that's very interesting. I I I I I I I because I've heard of this before and I I think it's a fascinating topic and it's nuts man so let's get it let's get it yeah let's get into it so like like in 1992 when the foundation was actually started like what we were seeing was a whole rash of people and really what false memory syndrome

Starting point is 00:14:23 like the origins of it, come down to is adults who are coming forward with stories of abuse from their childhood. So it's different than a lot of these like Me Too cases or you know, like somebody asserting that, you know, a celebrity was exploiting and taking advantage of a situation. Like these are like, you know, 20 year old memories that are now coming back too......... to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th............ And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the toe. the the the the the the t t coming back to the surface and people are coming forward about them and there seem to be like a wave of them in the late 80s, early 90s around like the

Starting point is 00:14:47 time like the Satanic Panic and some people are saying you know the all the MK Ultra Kids that were experimented on are now becoming adults and coming forward with all these stories of their account and if anyone wants to look into this stuff their website so their website so website so website so website so website so website so website so website so website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website website website so their website website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so their website so, False Memory Syndrome Foundation Online.org, FMSF.org, online. And their website is still up. So they actually shut down on December 31st of 2019, which I remember, it was really weird because that was like, you know, right before COVID. But it was also, you know, all the Q stuff was like up to full speed

Starting point is 00:15:25 and like Epstein just got, you know, whatever happened to him. And I remember in December 2019, that was when like all the, that everyone was talking about like sealed indictments and everyone was seeing all the CEOs stepping down. And then like I remember the false memory syndrome foundation, I remember reading about that. Because I've been covering this because this is all transpires around this lady. Like I said, a professor, Professor Jennifer Freid,

Starting point is 00:15:48 who was a professor at the University of Oregon and Eugene, where I was living at the time. And so, you know, I'd actually reached out to her for an interview, and she declined the interview. That was back when I was doing truth Zilla. So I wasn't, you know, she said that she was too busy, she was writing a book, which she does have a couple books out. And if anybody wants to reference any of this, I wrote a sub-stack on the last American Bagabond sub-stack earlier today, so you guys can follow along with what's going on here. And there's a bunch of references and links in it. But you know, so she was saying how it had like you know relevance to the town I was living in but the story basically goes is that in it was

Starting point is 00:16:32 December of 1992 professor Jennifer Frey she was an adult I think she said she was 33 years old right now just don't look too much into that saying yeah you know all the articles ology, some weird stuff in this, but yeah, she was 33 years old. She had been going to therapy, seeking a psychiatrist to process some of her weird stuff about her childhood and just, you know, and she's a psychology professor, professor of psychology at U of O. So, you know, she kind of knows this stuff, but was seeking outside help for herself. Andthis time you know she her younger sister divulged to her that she's like you know dad Peter Freyd was actually abused as a kid sexually abused as a

Starting point is 00:17:15 kid and that information like kind of shocked something into her and she was able to re-examine all the weird stuff from her childhood through the lens of oh her that is actually, you know, a product of abuse. And so this story does get really dark in some places just to let you people know, but it just is what it is. And so, you know, one of the things that happened with Peter was that it was divulged, that when he was nine years old, he was in his own words, he calls himself a kept boy. A kept boy the the the th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, th. tho, th. He's, thi. th. th. He's, th. He, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th.. He's, th. He's, th. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, th. He's, t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tode. t. today. t. t. th. th. th. th. He's boy for a male artist who lived in Providence Rhode Island actually took him on vacation

Starting point is 00:17:49 to Mexico and and this is just a quote he said this is Peter talking about his the guy that had him as a kept boy says quote he was a pedophile I was a kept boy I never repressed a thing what happened is certainly abusive I I suspect I did not perceive it as abusive then and my relationship stopped at a critical point when I detected feelings in myself and from the age of 11. So it's like from 9 to 11. So weird stuff. Now around the same time too, Pamela or Peter Freyd met his future wife Pamela like when they were nine years old, because their parents started having an affair with each other. Oh my.

Starting point is 00:18:28 Okay? All right, so Peter's father and Pamela's mother were both married to other people, and then they began having an affair with each other. And this is when they first met, and then they ended up getting married together with Peter and Pamela were 12, and so they actually became step siblings at this time. And then so it said like it's not clear when they became romantically involved, but they did begin dating each other

Starting point is 00:18:53 as step siblings in high school. So already it's off to just a very strange point. And so there's a couple articles that I was reading how Jennifer was recounting certain things about her childhood about like, you know, the dad was kind of inappropriate, made inappropriate jokes. He had apparently like a, you know, a, you know, a pin art thing, you know, where like you press your face and all the pins, like leave it like a, yeah, yeah, apparently he had one of those of his erect penis in the living room apparently and they all the kid everyone just thought it was totally normal but she was like now having gone through all this therapy she's like okay all this is way too weird and then in addition to that she had bunch

Starting point is 00:19:30 of she had this flashback of her father actually sexually abusing her and so she is on the record stating that from the age of three until she was in her early teens that she had recollection of her father actually sexually abusing her. And so what happened was is that the, so now fast forward, Jennifer's 33 years old, she has a husband, two younger sons. And Peter and Pamela came to visit for Christmas, December of 1992. And she had been, she was like trying, she'd remembered all this stuff fairly recently, was trying to keep it all the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to tha to to to tha tha tha tha tha tha tha, tha, tha thea, thatea, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, the, the, the, the, the, thuue, thue, thue, the, the, the, the........................................a, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta to, she'd remembered all this stuff fairly recently,

Starting point is 00:20:06 was trying to keep it all under wraps. And just for the sake of the family, it was trying to have like a cohesive, happy family Christmas, but then one night she just snapped and said to her husband, no, we can't be here, we have to go. And they fled the house, right? And so the next day, Jennifer requested that her husband, JQ, so there's a Q there for you, so 33 Q, right, okay, we have 33, 9-11, Q, there we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so anyway, so, so, JQ, the husband called and told Pamela and told Pamela Peter, you, tho, thii, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, so, they, so, so, there's, so, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so there's, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, there's, there's, there's, they.... they. they. there's, thi. thi. there's, there's, thi. there's, there's, thi, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there got to get out of the house. He can't be here. And they're like, well, why not? Like what's going on? And apparently, Jake Hugh dropped the bomb and he just said, look,

Starting point is 00:20:52 Jennifer says that Peter was molesting her as a child and we can't have him around our children. And so obviously the parents, as a story goes, as a story goes. And we're like, what are you talking about. I linked in the article. It's called it's from the cut. It's called the memory war, which goes into detail about this the foundation as a whole. But anyway, what happened was is that Peter didn't have the type of reaction apparently that somebody would maybe have if a child was accusing you of sexual molestation. They were said that there was no outrage, no shock. It wasn't like, you know, you know, just it was more like it seemed like he'd been preparing for this for a long time was kind of the way it was characterized in these articles. And so now speaking of just a weird reaction to this, so Peter and Pamela were both academics. Peter was a mathematician.

Starting point is 00:21:40 They had a lot of friends in academia. And their response to this whole thing was to gather up all their friends in academia. And they started a foundation called the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which was basically created to explain away people who were coming forward with childhood. Childhood, with regressed memories of childhood abuse. So they created a whole foundation to just discredit people who are coming forward with these allegations. So little little society is like really? Well it's interesting because right out the gate on the front page they go here's a example of a letter that that the one letter

Starting point is 00:22:18 they got and then next letter it's basically like the first letter is like how could you do this to me and then the next letter they receive is like, oh I love you so much or it was the other way around. So they get this really dark letter and then before they just got a letter where it's like I love you so much mom and dad. Thank you so much and then obviously the next letter came and it's like how could you do this to me? Baa, blah, blah. And you basically, it's very interesting because there's a famous story about this as well, about a dad who was accused of making his daughter do very, very dark shit.

Starting point is 00:22:57 And he was like a wine expert. He ran a wine company and his life was just destroyed and he swore he didn't do it. And it's like, it's super dark man, it's super sad and it's super weird that, that, you're, you know, you're totally right, man. It's like, it's like, this was created to destroy victims. Yeah. And to make it seem like they would be lying about what they're saying. But at the same time, I do, I mean, I guess it's Hollywood.

Starting point is 00:23:35 We see this shit happen where people do make up fucking stories for clout and shit like that. It's like a very complex thing. Yeah, it really is. It really is. And you know, again, like with everything, you know, you got to question everything, you got to look at all the evidence, you know, what can support these claims, you know, and then, you know, I'm not going to take anybody on face value on anything when it comes to stuff to thi. But I think as we continue to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack unpack to unpack to unpack it here like the foundation itself. When you look at the people that they chose to bring in, not only to help formulate it, but the people that they placed on what they call the scientific advisory board,

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Starting point is 00:27:14 Just if you go to their website, the FMFSF. online. to click at the very top, it says like a scientific advisory board and you can look. And these are very well-known people. Like if you can click on each one in their description, like some of the main ones, like this guy named Aaron Temkin Beck, psychiatrist and professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania. He's the guy that basically he came up with the idea of cognitive therapy. So anybody that's been into like a, into any sort of like treatment, like drug and alcohol treatment, stuff like that. Or if you've worked in the field, you've heard of CBT. You know, like these are like big people

Starting point is 00:27:51 who have had a major impact on, you know, the field of psychology, psychiatry, Rochelle Gelman and professor at Stanford University. He was the president of the APA, the American Psychological Association. He pioneered a lot of research into hypnosis during the 1950s and and so many more like literally is still posted on their website, which is so interesting because I feel like there's a lot of like smoking guns in this thing. There's a lot of just like things that they should be feverishly trying to cover up.

Starting point is 00:28:29 Like we'll talk later about this guy named Ralph Underwager. Like this, this is like evil. Like they're evil man. And it's like I don't know why they're allowing this website to remain up. Because it's fascinating. They've got so so they've've got so many, like, so the False Memory Syndrome Foundation came out with like newsletters like every month for decades, you know, and those are still all on the website. And you can pull them up and read through them. And there's like, there's some really interesting stuff. Like, you know, like I said, I've been covering this for a minute. It's so much. It's so much. Hold on. Go back. So we're on the page and it's so basically they do,

Starting point is 00:29:11 they have definitions of false memory syndrome, a psychological condition in which a person remembers events that actually that have not actually occurred. And then it's like, then they give the definition I guess and it's a another, which is weird. They just did two definitions, a situation which, which examination therapy, hypnotist, has elicited apparent memory. Look at the source on that, though. Wait, it's the Encarta dictionary.

Starting point is 00:29:40 Remember that CD used to get with Windows, the Encarta, the encyclopedia? That's their definition source there. Yeah, exactly because they were never able to get this instantiated in any sort of like medical journal or any sort of, you know, like the DSM, you know, which is like the textbook, literally the textbook of all of these mental illnesses and conditions and stuff. And so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, they they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're they're, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's.. Yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. thi. thin, th. th. th. th. th. thea. thea. thea. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're Owned by Microsoft? You like that? Look at that. Yeah, I'm sure they don't have any sort of interest in, being involved in anything like this.

Starting point is 00:30:08 What, can you talk about the science of, because there is science that's been done on, what, I can't remember what the actual term? Is it like memory implantation or something? therapist and perhaps they can you know sure somehow implicate into your mind you know like these things that maybe I mean isn't aren't we talking about like mk ultra at some point like yeah sure we're gonna be talking about mk ultra trust me yes okay okay we'll wait for that but yeah there's a big overlap with mk ultra and this whole story for sure and but Johnny you're right thrown to the science and I tho th I th I th I th I th I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. the. the. the. I. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. th. th with certain levels of suggestibility, you can completely alter memories and implant memories and completely convince them that things are happening

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Starting point is 00:33:46 I don't know what you're talking about. Some people have a real problem with this. Okay, this is what has the foundation accomplished when the foundation was formed in March 1992. Oh, what a different time 1992 was right? I know man. I mean, just so long ago and just like we didn't know how good we had it. This website in 1992 would have been like the best thing we've ever seen. Oh yeah, we'll be like, look this throw website. Whoa, oh my God. Microsoft. What year did this go up again?

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Starting point is 00:34:56 It took years of solid memory research and years of putting the research into context so that the families, the media and the general public could begin to understand th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho tho tho tho thi thi. the tho-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the th. th th. th th th th the th still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still still th still th still still still the to to to to to th still still to to to th still to to-s th still to-s to-stoan. th still to-s to-s thea thea thea thea thea thethat the families, the media, and the general public could begin to understand how the contagion of searching for repressed childhood memories came about and so quickly spread throughout so many countries. Now it's a worldwide plague, right? I mean, it is. It is. It's funny. They're like, oh, it's really funny how this could all of a sudden happen at the same time. It also coincides with like, you know, like, now, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, is. It's funny, they're like, oh, it's really funny how this could all of a sudden happen at the same time. It also coincides with like, you know, like the emergence of satanic ritual abuse and MK

Starting point is 00:35:29 alter experimentation and these people are now becoming adults, right? And so it's weird, you know, it's weird how this contagion has spread worldwide. Yeah, the FMS Foundation played a critical role by acting as a clearinghouse of scientific information and as a catalyst for discussion of specific claims regarding memory. The FMSF scientific advisors actively contribute ideas and further research into controversial areas of social influence and therapeutic practice as well as sparking debates in various critical areas of memory research. Now what I find very interesting about that is that they have stated what the foundation is accomplished.

Starting point is 00:36:16 Do you understand what I'm saying? It's like, oh, what we've done is really let people realize. You're like, well, where's the example of that? It's out there. Yeah, look at our newsletter. Subscribe to our newsletter. Maybe you'll find out, right? Man, yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:33 And so, you know, they talk about this panel of scientific advisors. I mean, let's get one that sticks out. Now it's not listed on that particular website, but there's a link, if you go to the substack, there's a link that takes you right to the FM, SF, whatever it is. And it's a newsletter from back in 1995 that lists. That lists this one of the scientists. And this is, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, this, I, this, I, I, this, this on tinfoil hat. I have no idea what episode this was, but it was one of your... Where is this? What? Okay, so I can put a link in the chat here. But uh, okay. Is that the one you already sent that link?

Starting point is 00:37:14 No, well, that's it. That's in the substack. But I'll send the exact link. Yeah, this is the website. The substack says the controversy. thapapapapapap. the website. to. to. the controversy. to. th. thia. the thia. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the th. th. th. thin. thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I can th. I can th. I can th. I can th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I can th. I can th. I can th. just put a link here into the end of the chat there for you for this particular thing that I'm going to cover right here. But this is, um, so I first heard about this guy on the tinfoil hat podcast, Dr. Louis Jolly and West, Dr. Jolly, right? He has- Hold on Dr. Jolly. Hold on the scientific advisory board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Oh Dr tho. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. So, so th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. J. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi. So, th. So, th. So, them? Yes, Dr. Jolly was on the scientific advisory board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Oh my God! Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is literally like the Legion of Doom. Yeah, dude, it gets worse.

Starting point is 00:37:54 It gets worse. But yeah, so I don't know how deeply you guys have covered Dr. Jolly. Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about. thii. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. to th. to th. to to th. th. to tho. thi. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. yeah, so literally and then again in the links, so I found a FOIA request like that they they issued a FOIA. Real quick Scott, sorry for those who may not be familiar with Dr. Jolly, Dr. Jolly was instrumental in the Charles Manson story and what Dr. Jolly was basically known for was being like spearheading the MK Ultra CIA programs. and Dr. Jolly was basically known for was being like spearheading the MK Ultra CIA programs. And Dr. Jolly and Scott correct me if I'm wrong here, but he opened up basically these clinics in San Francisco that were seen as like health clinics, but they're free health clinics.

Starting point is 00:38:41 And what we talked about on the show is something free, you are the product, okay? You're talking about the 69, right? Yeah, in San Francisco in the 60s. So they would basically, they would give you free medical as long as you came and answered questions for them. What the CIA was doing was flooding San Francisco and particularly, hey Ashberryberry with crystal meth and acid. And they were seeing how those two drugs interacted with each other and then what would happen was there was all this craziness going on people go either they

Starting point is 00:39:15 would get STDs or they'd be up for days in their health and they would just that's how they did an analysis on what was going on in that area and the effects of those drugs. Now Dr. Jolly also, and correct me if I'm wrong on this guy, worked with, I believe he worked with, who shot? Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby, who are some of the other people? I thought he worked with... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll break this down. So you're right. He did have a clinic in the other people. I thought he worked with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll break this down. So, so you're, you're right. He did have a clinic in the hate Ashbury District of San Francisco. Allegedly, the same one Charles Manson went to, so they, they're suspicion that, you know, there was some ties. There was some ties that, you know. I wasn't able to corroborate that. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. to. the. the. their. their. their. their. the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the their the their their their their their their their their their. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. their, their, their, the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. tas. today. th. th. the same. the same. the same. the same and Manson, but there are, there's plenty that we do know. And he was very much involved in LSD research at that time. And Johnny, that link I was saying was really just to show that at the very, go to the very,

Starting point is 00:40:14 very bottom. He's like the last person listed in that whole section of people on the CIA, it talks about how he was called in to evaluate Jack Ruby, you know, the guy who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, you know, and Dr. Jolly's assessment was that Ruby was mentally ill and showed signs of paranoia, right? Now, just keep track of all these people, right? So, you you you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. And, thi. th. And, this is this is this is this is th. And, and this is th. And, and this is th. And, and this is th. And, and th. And, this is th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this is this is all, this is all, this is all, this is all, this is all, this is all. thistrack of all these people right so there you have Dr. Jolly he was also brought in to examine Sirhan Sirhan Yeah the shot Robert Kennedy right he was called in to work on the pretrial of Patty Hurst who was the heirs to the hearse family right she was abducted all people who had trouble with reality too, like with with grip, having a grip on reality, which is fascinating.

Starting point is 00:41:07 Yep. Yep. And so, you know, Patty Hershey was like, you know, come to find out, you know, she'd brainwashed, Stockholm syndrome, like, that whole story. And then, uh, and then we have Timothy McVeigh and then Terry Nichols, the other co-defendant in that case, his brother James Nichols wrote a book called Freedom's End. And in that book it asserts that, you know, Jolly was brought in to like kind of steer the investigation and kind of like control, almost be like a handler of McVeigh himself. So it's kind of like all these people, like they're all kind of like the most preeminent, like at Manchurian candidate type people that you would picture. Like when you, when you think of like real life Manchurian candidates,

Starting point is 00:41:51 like those are the names that pop up in your head. You know, like Jack Ruby, Sir Han, and Timothy according to the intercept, I found an article from the intercept that says, quote, according to newly surfaced papers from West's archives, a psychiatrist had some of the clearest, most nefarious ties to any scientist to CIA's Project M.K. Ultra. So it's like, and again, I put links on there to the arc of the FOIA and his own personal archive from when he was working at UCLA, he spent most of his career at UCLA. So Well, you know what this guy reminds me of is the autopsy guy that's been sent around from all the way from JFK Martin Luther King

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Starting point is 00:43:07 And a special episodes of chairs, guest starring. Sylvester Stallone, everyone would just chair when Sylvester Stallone. And he would have to look like he couldn't hear the applause and then he has to pause. Okay, ah, you know, like, yeah, so I see that happening 100 percent. And there's another example, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. that, a that, a that, a that, a that, a that, a that, a that, a that, a the the, they. they. the, a the, the, the, the, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, I. the, I. the, I. the. the. the. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the, I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. the. to. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that happening 100%. And there's another example by, oh, to me, a great example of this as well, Scott, I'd love to hear your opinion is Kanye West's personal trainer who has like been connected to so many people that have had insane mental breakdowns. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I would completely be on board with that saying that they have handlers, they have people who are tasked in various roles, various positions...... th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Oh, to to to to to to to to to to me to to me, to to me, to to me, to me, to me, to to me, to me, to me, to to to me, to thi. be on board with that saying that they have handlers,

Starting point is 00:43:45 they have people who are tasked in various roles, various positions throughout various industries to kind of handle, manipulating control people. I mean that's pretty clear, you know, absolutely. So I'm looking at your notes, bro. Yeah. And you have, you have on here, on scientific advisory board. Wait, you guys hear the names of people that are on this advisory board?

Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah. Listen, when I, don't read it. Don't read it. Oh my God, do not read this. Because your mind is going to be blown when you read, when Scott tells you the name of the people, and it makes you read when Scott tells you the name of the people and it makes you even wonder if this is a joke. Yeah. Who, Scott, please tell our listeners who is on the false memory syndrome clinics or what's it

Starting point is 00:44:40 called foundations board, scientific advisory board, here we go. Yeah man. Well I mean here we go I mean so, so, so, board, scientific advisory board. Here we go. Drum, man. Well, I mean, here we go. I mean, so we have Dr. Jolly West, who we just covered, right? Right there, that's crazy. That should be enough.

Starting point is 00:44:54 Oh, wait. There's more. There's more. There's a Martin Orne. Have you guys covered him very,. No. Okay, Martin, I don't know what relates to read on because it seems very way more sensational than I was expected, but no it's great, it's fantastic. Check it out. All right, Martin Orn, professor of psychiatry, psychology at the University of Pennsylvania, deep ties to CIA's M.K. Ultra program as well. He was a big pioneer in the in hypnosis back in the 1950s. Likethat's what kind of made him famous. And let's see and it talks about

Starting point is 00:45:25 and there I found an article from, oh he worked for Harvard, I found an internal, it was an article in Harvard's what if it, public publication called the Crimson where it talks about how, oh this is no, when published in 1978 talks about how Martin T. Orn, the director of the Medical School of Hypnosis research in the early 60s, outlined how he received $30,000 from the CIA, blah, blah, blah, blah, to conduct like MK Ultra type research, right? So yeah, Martin Orn, you got Paul McHugh is another big one. Now this guy has an interesting, interesting story because he's been involved in several controversies over the years he's currently he's like 90 years old 91 years old still alive as of today as of the date of this episode psychiatrist who is the the university distinguished service professor psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University

Starting point is 00:46:17 of school. John Hopkins that's where a vent 201 happened yeah exactly yeah exactly so he's like one of the head guys over at Johns Hopkins where a vent 201 happened? Yeah, exactly, exactly. So he's like one of the head guys over at Johns Hopkins. And his whole thing is that he, since the 1970s, he has been saying that he's been in opposition of transgender sexual reassignment surgeries and argues that that is a mental illness and those situations need to be handled as such.

Starting point is 00:46:43 And so obviously, he gets a lot of shit for that is a mental illness and those those situations need to be handled as such. And so obviously he gets a lot of shit for that. And but in relation to this story, he was, he was in the early 90s around the time of the formation of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. He was on a panel that was looking at abuse allegations involved in the Catholic Church, and he was, you know, attributing a lot of those to false memories. And so, yeah, so, oh, I forgot to put a link to the New York Times article here. I'll have to go back and do that.

Starting point is 00:47:11 But anyway, in the early 1990s, Dr. McKee was among those in psychiatry who argued that memories of sexual abuse recovered by adults were almost always false. You know, he was even back then, and this was a controversial thing back then of him taking such a stance trying to basically cover for these priests. It's unbelievable. It's like, these are the, these are all like Dr. Evils. Yeah, and all MK Ultra stuff too. Okay, real quick, I want to tell you about Lucy Breakers. to thee. thiii. about Lucy Breakers real quick let me tell you about it. If you're one of the millions of adults who used nicotine, you know that not all nicotine

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Starting point is 00:49:45 Okay. So so you have evil evil. Who's his doctor? Dr. Underwager? Okay. So this is this is the one that I have trouble with. Like, you know, I didn't even put some links to this guy. Because this guy is straight up just as evil as it gets. And so what I did is I found I found an excerpt from this website called the Delphi Center and we I just basically just caught like clipped their assessment of him and I put a link to the things like you can go look at this if you want but I don't recommend it. Basically he was him and his wife, Holinda Wakefield. So this Ralph underwager. So this Ralph underwager were brought on as early members of the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific the scientific, the scientific, as, the scientific, the scientific, the scientific, the scientific, the scientific, the scientific, the scientific, th, th, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, t, the, the, the, the, the, the, t, website, website, the, the, the the Underwager is his name, R-A-L-F underwager, were brought on as early members of the Scientific Advisory Board, and Underwager was a forced to resign in 1993. Apparently he gave an interview to this, and I don't even know what this is. It's a pro-pedophilia magazine called PEDICA, P-A, P-A-I-D-I-K-A, which apparently still has a website. It's the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, the journal, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-i, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-a-a-s, and, th-a-a-s, th-a-A-I-D-I-K-A, which apparently still has a website. It's the

Starting point is 00:50:45 Journal of Pedophilia apparently. What? This is out of, yeah, dude. I'm not looking that up. Don't look at it. Don't click on that shit, dude. And so anyway, if you want, and so there's an interview, I link the full transcript of about like a 1990s you know shitty website like that's what you're dealing with with that Padica thing so don't click on that folks I'm not all I'm saying is like here's a quote here's a quote the here's a quote the tel the pettifile can tel a pettifile within the choices that I'm anyway, I don't know, dude. Oh yeah, pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find the best way to love. I am also a theologian and as a theologian I believe it is God's will, that there be

Starting point is 00:51:36 closeness and intimacy, unity of flesh between people. So he's basically like this is like a, he came out in defense of pedophili and said it's just a person's choice. And so he was kicked off of the board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation board. However, his wife was allowed to stay, Linda Wakefield was allowed to stay. And if you look at a lot of these newsletters, all throughout, it cites her at the bottom, as still being a part of a part of part of part of part of part of part of part of part of part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of a part of the theme. So it's like, yeah man, it's it's really really messed up.

Starting point is 00:52:05 Even the pedophiles have their own science. Yeah, I mean, even the pedophiles are like you too, you're too pedophile for us. You're too pedophile. Yeah, exactly. They're just worried about their public image, you know, they're not really worried about what it is he's saying. It's not the what he's saying that. what he saying he saying he saying he he he he he he he saying he saying he he saying he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's saying he he's saying too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too you're saying too you're saying too you're saying too you're saying too you're saying he he he he he he he he he's he's he's saying. You're saying. You're saying. he's saying. he's saying. he's saying. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's saying. he's saying. he's saying. He's saying. You're saying. You're saying. You're saying. You're saying. You're saying he's saying too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too he's saying. here man like look we're trying to help you guys and you're going over here running your mouth come on so this is Dr. Elizabeth Lotus loftus after Elizabeth Loftus and now this is where it gets really really interesting so she you know she is if you've been following any of these like major like sex abuse cases she's's involved. She's basically the go-to what they call memory expert, right? A person who gets called in to discredit, I mean, or just like call into question the memory of the accuser. And her her legacy began around the time of like the

Starting point is 00:53:01 McMartin preschool molestation case. So she was brought in and was was brought in as as the memory expert in defense of the people thi, right, right, right, th, th, right, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, right, the th, the the, right, the the, the, the the, they they they they they they they they've they've they've they've they've they they they've they've they've they've they' they' they' they, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, they're, the the the the thi, the the time of like the McMartin preschool molestation case. So she was brought in and was was brought in as the memory expert in defense of the people that were accused in the McMartan preschool case, right? And so like that was like around you know late 80s, something like that. It was like a bunch of like preschool kids were getting like STDs and all this crazy stuff. I'm sure you guys, I know, I know you guys. Yeah, 100% and you know Joe Rogano, I love with all my heart, tries to reference this case as like satanic panic. And that, and it, that's just not true.

Starting point is 00:53:36 I mean, sadly, it's just not true. And it's like this was going on. There were underground tunnels from that that kids school to who knows where. So I mean the notion that this you know you get into this with the Memphis 3 like we've all been conditioned to believe the Memphis 3 were illegally framed and it's just not true. Yeah. Yeah, again, I mean, I would attribute a lot of that to,

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Starting point is 00:55:31 And you know, I love cross-eyed women. And like, look how nuts. She looks right there. Right. No, I kind of chose. I was a little biased. selection of which picture to put there. So what is fine, but she's, I mean, it's like crazy, but she doesn't have one picture where she looks normal. Yeah, I mean, yeah, she's like, I'm a straight shooter. You're like, well, your eyes say different. Yes, exactly. Why don't you go down their list of people that she has been on the defense for? Yeah, exactly.

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Starting point is 00:57:16 Famous for like murdering their parents, right? And again, here we go, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, she was involved in their cases. So you've got like all the M.K. Ultra false memory syndrome people run into task to take care of, handle the Timothy McVeigh situation. And then of course the two big ones, the two big ones that there's tons of articles, tons of information about this out there. Harvey Weinstein. So she was, you know, Harvey Weinstein's you know number one Best friend in that whole situation and then most recently you guessed it you guys Galain Maxwell Oh my god Yes, so yeah, you she was brought in you know you look at like Rolling Stone like everyone's important on him and Glain Maxwell defense puts memory itself on trial with first expert witness, Dr. Elizabeth Loftus. So, yeah, man. Oh my God, just imagine like you're like this woman's husband and like you're just watching

Starting point is 00:58:14 the news and blah blah blah has been arrested and accused of unspeakable sex crime. Suddenly the phone rings. You're like, let me guess. You're defending Darth Vader, right? Some Ewok said he molested him, and you're defending, well, you know, I mean, these Ewoks are known to make up stuff, you know, it's like, it's so interesting the way people, what people will do for dollar bills. Yeah, 100%. And like, you know, just back to the original point point point point point point point point point point the the the the the the the the the the the thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're thi. You're you're you're you're you're you're you're you. You're you. You're you. You're you. You're you. You're you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's th. It's to. It's th. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's to. It's th. It's to. It's th. It's so, th. It's so, th. It's th. It's bills. Yeah, yeah, 100%.

Starting point is 00:58:46 And like, you know, just back to the original point, you know, looking at this with a, you know, with the, you know, objective mind and looking at, you know, wanting to look at everything based on evidence, right, and coming to our conclusions, based off of that evidence, but then, you know, when you see something like this, you see an organization who was born out of literally the need to cover up, you know, all of this sexual abuse that was being reported, when you see just the very origins itself, and then the people that got involved in how it's played out, like to me that there's nefarious intent and there's nefarious action behind all of this, you know, whether we know, but now you got to ask yourself Scott, is there more at work than these two people? Yeah. Are there dark forces with deep pockets that would love to, you know, maybe the maybe these two start, right? They're like, hey, man, we should start something because obviously we're a victim of this thing we just made up, right? And we're the first ones in history.

Starting point is 00:59:51 And then, and then these powerful people, you know, we've talked about the fashion company that's put the, you know, the BDSM bear. Valencia. Like, I love, I still, I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I still, I still, I still, I still, I thia, I the, I the, the, the, the, the, you, you, the, th, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiDSM bear. Valencia, but Valenciaga, like I love that I still can't remember the name, Valencia, and you know my theories that Balenciaga did all that because their clientele is in all to that. So you are marketing to your clientele. You are, you know, they like that stuff. So you want them to buy your stuff so you show them images that they will associate

Starting point is 01:00:25 with your stuff that they will like. So you know they do this whole thing so there is a large group of people based on very that are powerful and you know my opinion is that this really dark shit is the initiations to high, high levels. And you know, I, my whole opinion is that this really dark shit is the initiations to high, high levels. You don't get into those super high, high levels unless they're able to have something on you. Yeah. And a great, great example is, and Johnny, let me hear your thoughts on this, is Neil Degrass

Starting point is 01:00:59 Tyson, right? Do you remember? I forget what the topic was and maybe it was the vaccine or the virus that he was pushing back against the official narrative? Do you remember that? There was a thing where Neil DeGrosity Tyson was going against the official narrative and a suddenly sexual assault allegation started to slowly seep into the mainstream media. I don't remember that, no. I don't remember that either.

Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, Neil de Gras Tyson cleared of sexual misconduct charges. The only time they clear anybody. When the fuck do they clear anybody? So he went out and said something that was against the official narrative. And then this comes out, and then he back to the clear anybody. So he went out and said something that was against the official narrative and then this comes out and then he backtracks on the official on his statement concurring into what everybody else is saying and then the sexual harassment goes away now he's allowed to be the voice of us of gay space right and all the gay stuff done in gay space. So this is what happened. So there is a large group of people that are in a very high

Starting point is 01:02:13 level that most of us aren't going to ever be allowed in because we don't participate in these fucking awful acts and that's the only way you get into that that that level of power is if you play ball. Do you think it's blackmail or do you think you have to like... It's gang initiation, it's jumping. Trust, college. Yeah, like college, it's like lots to do that. It's called jump inshills.

Starting point is 01:02:36 Or you remember the famous tel, you know, the famous street tale or whatever those are called, Urban Tales, Urban Legends, urban legends, sorry, about like, you know, like gangs have to kill somebody to get in. And the reason they do that is because now they got something on you, so you won't snitch on them. So if everyone participates in these dark art shit, you know, nobody's gonna snitch on anyone else because you're not gonna go and put it out like that. So that's my humble opinion is that this, the people that play that game would really love to be able to create a pseudoscience that establishes that people make up shit.

Starting point is 01:03:23 And that's what this is, this is literally pseudoscience. Like that's what this is. This is literally pseudoscience. Like, that's what we're dealing with here with the false memory syndrome, exactly, you know what I mean? And, you know, some of your what you were saying there, there's that gives some credibility of that. It's like, it's almost like, okay, like, it would be easy to can create a whole foundation around it, right? That seems like very false flag potential there for sure.

Starting point is 01:03:46 And some interesting things that kind of like give that some credibility is like if you fast forward now to what Jennifer Freight is up to these days, like she's gone on and found this, I didn't cover this in the article. What? But like right now what she's doing is, she's got this other organization and she's working with like Christine Blasey Ford is like the person that she's working with who is the one who accused Kavanaugh right of the of the rape allegations so like they teamed up together to where like now she's like advocating in defense of

Starting point is 01:04:18 people like that it's like instead of like you know why don't you come to like the defense of like the the accusers or the Jennifer the the the Gillain Maxwell accusers and it's like it's like this still she's coming to the defense of like Christine Balsie Ford just like okay well I mean I don't really I mean I don't really know that situation but doesn't that seem well I'll give you the situation man and once again here we are CIA ties tie ties, that woman that accused, what's his face, Kavanaugh, you know, her father was in charge of finding funding for CIA black ops and that she was actually working with Kavanaugh to get Kavanaugh in. Yeah. Because what you do is you make it about everything but his record.

Starting point is 01:05:18 Because if we actually took a look at his record, you'd be like, oh, this guy's a swamp, mother fucker. He brought it, he helped, he basically, he meant, he's a conservative. He's a conservative. They. They. They. They. They. They. They're, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're going. They're going. They're going. They're going. They're going. They're going. They're going. She, they're going. She, they're going. She, they're going. She. She, they're going. She, they're going. She, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She, they, they, they, they're going. He. He. He. He, they're going. He, they're going. He, they're going. He, they're going. He's a conservative. He's a conservative. He's a conservative. He's a conservative. He's a conservative. He's a conservative. He's a they're they're they're they're they're they're they're going, they're going, they're going. He's a this guy's a swamp, motherfucker. He brought, he helped, he basically, he met, he's a conservative. They're going after he's conservative, people. You're like, dude, he basically was white, the Clinton's lawyer for whitewater. He created, he helped co-write the, uh, Patriot Act. This was all done, it was all scripted to get him in. He's an old spook from way back in the day. She was all part of that. She is CIA Deep State.

Starting point is 01:05:54 That was all fake. All that was all that. Why do you think that helped get him in? Because it made it pulled the focus from his record to some allegations which there was no witness to. Everybody who stated that they believed her and that they were witness to what was happened way after. They were like her husband and her therapist. They weren't there. There's people I know that were accused of stuff that no actual witness was there for. It was people much later that were co-signed on what she

Starting point is 01:06:38 was saying. So I mean like this is another CIA move. It's like crazy, bro, more swamping. And like, it's just nuts as this woman has moved on to another thing. And, you know what this reminds me of, man? You know what this really reminds me of? Ozarks. Right? Where you're like creating a narrative to cover up for what's really going on. Like the casino? The casino, the charity events, the helping out of people, why you're running and gunning in crime. Yeah, it's really interesting man. And so I found

Starting point is 01:07:16 it's the institutional, or the center for institutional courage is her new endeavor. And you know, you like on the main page you see like Ashley Judd and there's like Christine Blossie Ford's involved and it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the casino, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the casino, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the the the the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the casino, the the the the the the the the the casino, the casino, like, like, like, like, the casino, like, like, the casino, the casino, I the casino, the, you like on the main page you see like Ashley Judd and there's like Christine Blossie Ford's involved and it's like, okay. So I don't know, that's weird man. It's like, I don't know, maybe it's just like the cognitive dissonance. That's what it's called. Institutional. Center for institutional courage, you know, and it's like, you know, I mean, maybe there's some like, you know, what thin. th. th. th. that, like, that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th.. th. th. I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I's weird, th. I's th. th. thatthis, like a topic that I covered to death was the whole thing about the 10 stages of genocide, right? That whole thing about genocide, that whole thing about genocide, Dr. Gregory Stanton, who's done phenomenal work, you know, looking at all of these genocides from history, the Armenian genocide, the, the, like, the Cambodia, the Camni-I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, the, like, like, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, likethe Holocaust, and he looks at these things, and he can break it down, and there's 10 stages, each one of these genocides occurring. You know, you have like the classification, dehumanization, preparation, leading all the way up to the extermination, and then the ultimate denial of that event.

Starting point is 01:08:16 And so, you know, we were covering this, like, 20, 20-20. weigh. shit like when there's a genocide coming dude because they're they're doing all this shit right now you know what I mean so we were covering this pretty extensively back then but then now to this day if you go and look at the genocide watch website it's like he came down on the side of Trump is the guy that's going to carry out the genocide because Trump and all these white supremacists are going to be the one to genocide and so he he's the the completely completely completely completely completely completely the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the genocide. the genocide. the genocide. the the genocide. It's like sometimes these people, these academic types, they just have this huge blind spot to reality, you know what I mean? And so I don't know if it's nefarious or if it's just like, bro, how could you miss this? Like the genocides happening all around you man? Like what are you talking about? Like you know what I have to be a never-trumper. That's kind of how it is. And like there's a lot of things that Trump has done

Starting point is 01:09:11 that is you know super questionable of course we talk about that all the time on here. Yeah but it just seems they have a job I don't know you know it's like how deep does this go? How like, like, like there's things Trump has done that we could sit here and be like, he's done this wrong, he's done that wrong, he's done that wrong. But you'll never hear the other side talk about that because the other side likes those things. Like this weird kind of fight between Net and Yahoo and Trump. What are you talking about??? they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they have they have they have they have a they have a th. th. th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. Like th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they have they have thi. thi are thi are thi. thi are thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ths. Like this weird kind of fight between Netanyahu and Trump. What are you talking about? They have a shekel in Israel with Trump's face on it. I mean like what are we talking about here? You know, I mean it's, dude the guy is so Zionist. You did everything they wanted for four years. Yeah, I mean he basically curtailed, and you know you see Republicans do that that Texas governor just

Starting point is 01:10:05 did that he just outlawed anti-Semitism on in Texas you're like what? What are we talking about here? Yeah you like specifically Austin Texas is that what he did there? Man I might be an L for Texas right there yeah well I mean usually they get a lot of dumb you it's always Republicans right they as Yeah. Well, I mean, usually they get a lot of dumb. It's always the Republicans, right? They, as much I hate that, that Omar, whatever name is from Minnesota, I can't stand her, right? But they kicked her off some boards because she's been critical of Israel. I'm like, I mean, she's been critical of America. I mean, like, and she's in our government. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's like it's like these like this weird emotional blind spots where some ridiculous stuff is worse than other ridiculous stuff right? It's just like unbelievable but if you go back to

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Starting point is 01:12:12 there's an article going after Harvey Weinstein. So it's just all coming and going, right? It's like, that's all it is. It's all, like, they don't want you to know if you're coming or going. That is the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah, and then just to be clear, so Jennifer Freyde, the one that's the center for institutional courage was the one who was against the false memory syndrome foundation. So I didn't even notice that, that she had a thing against Harvey Weinstein. So that's actually maybe something to her credit, I guess. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So I got it wrong? Well, so, so, so, Jennifer Frey, the one that's in charge of the center for institutional courage, she was the original one who blamed her parents.

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Starting point is 01:13:29 I'm kidding. Well, I mean she has Gloria Steinem right there. That's an FBI informant. Yeah, okay. So I don't know man. to you an apology. It's intravene. .

Starting point is 01:13:38 Okay. an apology young lady I thought it was your mother that did this so my apologies wow okay I owe you an apology that's still but still Ashley Judd Christine Blossie Ford like come on now what are we doing here yeah you're right you're right you're right dude it's it's it's also that when you wait in certain waters you're just surrounded by swamp things as well. Yeah. But it's like... And then here's another one too. Okay, institutional betrayal, the lasting trauma from playing down the threat of COVID-19 and failing to act.

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Starting point is 01:15:12 Ever. They'll never do that. there's very rarely do women go to jail for false, false accusations. It has to be done on like, they have to be doing it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. again, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to be. to be to be to be to be, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, the, the, the, the, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to. to. to be doing it over and over and over and over and again. To be caught, like there's some woman in like England that accused like 10 to 15 guys in different situations of doing something. They only caught her because one of them was Santa Claus is the only way they busted. What if this is all to plant the seed of the narrative that, okay, yes, memories

Starting point is 01:15:41 are unshakable and so what we need to reinforce people's memories by inserting brain chips. And so that way, everybody's memory will be perfect and recorded at all times and we won't have these problems anymore. Well, you know, man, as you were like, as we were doing the show, I was thinking like, what is the, what is the, what is what we believe is going on behind on behind the scenes and what's going behind behind that okay so what is going on with that and you know the question could be you know if you have if you have let's say a bunch of people accusing Trump of sexual harassment which there is no no evidence okay, then when some real allegations come up, you're more hesitant to believe them.

Starting point is 01:16:32 So now, you know, where we see that is that, you know, with the whole face swap, what's it called, deep fakes? You remember, they're like, oh, deep fakes are gonna be like, so bad. They like, we're never gonna know. The real thing is gonna be AI, though. It's AI they can't they they they they they they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can that that that that that that that that that that they can they can they can they can't they can't they're like, oh deep fakes are gonna be like, so bad. They're like, we're never gonna know. The real thing is gonna be AI, though. It's AI they can do, it'll be way more than deep fakes. It'll be, I mean, just like completely generate fake people altogether is they're gonna be.

Starting point is 01:16:56 Well, you know that the whole notion is that that the deep fakes are going to set a basically an argument by something like Hillary Clinton if if that video came out, frazzled drip, if that had come out she'd be like oh that's a deep fake that's not real that's not I'm not into that I'm not that's not me that's a deep fake and that was being set up so that we don't trust anything even what our eyes tell us now. Yeah I remember that I remember that like that was at the the the the the the the the the the the that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's that's that's that anything even what our eyes tell us now. Yeah, yeah, I remember that I remember that like that was at the cusp of all that coming out And that's when all that deep fake, you know rhetoric was really starting to get You know really ramped up is like oh, well, they're just rolling this out to cover it up man. It's crazy have you guys to thrown? the website. thrown. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. that. that's that. that's that's that's that's that's th. that's that's that's that's their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. that. that. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. Yeah. that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. th. I. I. I. th. I. I. I. th. I. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or if you're trying to do like some sort of like school shooting event and you need to have like a bunch of like kids faces or something like that'd be a great way to do it. Oh, Scott's going deep on that one.

Starting point is 01:17:55 Scott's going deep and I'm not against that. Dude these people look what's really fun but here's what I tell you. There's someone out there that looks like that. That is a real person somewhere. Not that exact person. That's the trippy thing about it though. It's like, you know, that's an amalgamation. That's an AI-generated amalgamation of like a person that technically does not exist. It's like the idea of the uncanny valley, right? When it comes to humans have this built-in perception where they can look at a

Starting point is 01:18:27 human and if it's not quite a hundred percent humanoid we have an ability to detect it very easily. But it's almost it's almost like a touring test. This is on the other side of the uncanny valley though, right? Yes like you are we know this and to be fake and you can tell a lot of times with the background if you look at the background see like her shoulder there like that one you can always see that it's that it's fake but but but if you it's so far past the uncanny valley that you realize like dude I'm being deceived my and the technology and the a AI is that's the th is th is th is th is what if you come across the love of your life on this page, you know, and you're like, I know. Or yourself? It's the future, right? I mean, if you want a cat, if you want to cat fit someone,

Starting point is 01:19:13 this is where you get the picture. Well, no, if that's a problem, you do is you have like, they'll show you like 10 pictures, right? And out of those 10 people, you pick the one that you find most attractive, right? And then you do that like 50 times, and then it takes your average of all the people that you found most attractive, and it like morph uses the AI to go out and search the whole world to try and find that person you're exact like face match. You're monetizing that wrong though see that that's that's a pornography tool is what that is. That's not a dating app that's a that's a tool to match you with your perfect porn star. Well here They always lead the way. We take it.

Starting point is 01:20:05 Yeah, porn leads the way on everything. So you're saying I would go to a porn site and I'd be like, okay, I like the tits from her, I like to ask from her. And then they'd go on the internet and then find out of the closest thing to do only fans. Oh, geez, oh God. Okay, so anyway, I don't know. You know, I think, I think, it's very funny because so many of these AI generated pictures

Starting point is 01:20:36 have very much a pat vibe. Oh yeah. Like you're like, I think that's a moment. Androgynes, yeah, I mean, very androgy, I mean, that guy's obviously, but there's some androgygy going on there, right? That guy right there. A little bit about a mustache, but yeah, but you see some of it. Okay, maybe I'm wrong. I just felt like there's a bunch of in her head, dude. Look that, dude. It trips out sometimes. Yeah, it's like, oh, this one's, yeah. I mean, it's so, and that's weird.

Starting point is 01:21:07 Look at, look at, look what's behind. What is that behind? It's weird, man. What is that? It's that. It's, it's, it. Yeah it's crazy dude. But sometimes I see some crazy shit like that Alex Jones shit for a quick second I was like this is deep fake. There's no way Kanye West is on his show.

Starting point is 01:21:32 Like there's moments and there's moments and the moments and the moment's the tip fake. No no no I meant just like how I thought it was fake. I you said you if I see trump say the hoax yeah if I see Trump saying anything crazy my first thing is like that's a deep fake and then I got a seat on Fox from like okay no this is real that's a damn good point man that's a damn good point like they literally could have fake that entire thing I mean there's there's there's eat there's very credibility to that. Like, Kanye could be, maybe that pastor-neck guy did take Kanye out and they've got him all freaking MK-O-Maybe Dr. Jolly's got him strapped to a table somewhere and they're just like, M.K. Ulter in the shit, I don't think he's out of the to' to'n' tha-he' tha like, I've always wanted Dreads.

Starting point is 01:22:26 Why not? I'm 80. You know. But I mean like there's a lot of talk about what is really going on in the Ukraine. How much of it is real because there's just videos of like Zalinski just doing weird shit like shooting hip-hop video. That's not him that's an actor that hip-hop video thing is not him. I know what you're talking about that's not him.

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Starting point is 01:24:49 Oh, I love that Metro with the gay colors is the leading, it was the number one, like, Metro's probably big somewhere right? But this got debunked. This got debunked. So it's like you may, there may, there, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one after, one, one after, one after, one after, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, the, the, the, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, after, the, after, their. And, this got debunked this got debunked So it's like you may there maybe some maybe maybe hokey you know what you need to do go to yandex tox yandex dot com I've done using google I'm done using duck duck do go yandex is the shit Okay why what's wrong with fucking duck dot go now duck got bought by Google I heard and in fact they were tweeting out how they're going to down rank things that go against the official narrative when it comes to Ukraine specifically. But Yandex is cool because it's like it's like the Russian search engine. And so you can get like, type in vaccine death on Yandex. You get like their propaganda either though, you know what I'm saying. Is there not a service that just doesn't. to say. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. they. th. they. th. they. th. they. they. It's. th. they. they. they. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like get better search results. You type in vaccine death and like the first thing that pops up is like natural

Starting point is 01:25:46 news like Mike Adams sites. Like you will never get that anywhere on like Google or anything. Hold on this according to natural news, 10,000 people a day being killed. 10,000 people. today, theymeat that. that. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. their natural. that. their natural. th. their natural. th. their their their their their their their their their their their natural their their natural. their natural. their natural. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the saying this is like the ultimate truth but it's like it's like it's not owned by Google other they're still privately held according to the internet. You didn't finish reading that. Yeah, largely larger than Holocaust. Jesus. You know it's like it's all good. I mean like I don't know where you're ever going to find unbiased. You know, I think the key is to find both sides of the extreme and think it's somewhere in the middle, right? Let's really like...

Starting point is 01:26:31 See, that should be a website. The extreme left is them right and then you fucking decide. Yeah, it used to be network news. Like Rick Sanchez was talking about. That's just basically how they, you know, that they, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they.. they. they. the the they. the the the, the, the, the, just basically how they, you know, that they, that Ronald Reagan destroyed our, uh, our media. He started it. And it's kind of fucking nuts, dude. Yeah. It's crazy, dude.

Starting point is 01:26:56 This whole thing is nuts. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, it's like, for my whole, my whole opinion is like they've had this plan and for a while we are in the middle of cultural Marxism. Like, you know, Brad Binkley and I were talking last night. He's from the propaganda report. He's really good. Yeah, Brad's a man.

Starting point is 01:27:18 Brad's great dude. Brad is like really talented. And I, he's got a very bright future he's very blessed and we were we were kind of talking about um fuck I can't remember what we were talking about man it just totally Ukraine Gould teeth something nope it's gone Brad you got a free shout-out and I can't remember what we were talking about but it was a free fucking shout-out and oh oh oh um we're talking about, but it was a free fucking shout out. And oh, oh, we were talking about, in my humble opinion, we were talking about

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Starting point is 01:29:32 It had four numbers, 9-11, his mom, his dad and his sister. That's the phone you want to give your kid. Do they call 911, 9-1, and Mexico, out there. This is in the States, Johnny, be nice. Yeah, see, it's like a bark phone there. But don't you think it's a society, it should be a bigger issue? Yeah, I mean, it's a parental, that's what I'm saying though. I don't blame it. The tech companies will meet demand. If demand was there, they'd make this thing. you know with all these parental controls building. Yeah probably no websites with that are parking 13 and over. We've got kids smart OS it's got a custom OS for

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Starting point is 01:31:28 like, what is LA like now? But dude, if you guys are looking to get out, Nashville is amazing. D. Nashville is the shit. You guys would love it here so much, man. It's like LA. is because you got the city of Nashville and then if you drive 15 miles, you're like in some small town. Yeah, dude. It's like Bible benefits of South. That's what I like, dude, because I, LA is like you drive 50 minutes, you're still in a big town. You gotta drive two hours to get to nowhere. Yeah, it's like 45 to get out of here. Yeah, I mean and now shit's a fan. the trip bikes and crossbows bows, bro. to. to, bro. to, bro. to, bro. to, bro. to, bro. to, bro. Yeah, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the to the the to to to the the south, the the the the the the that's the the the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south, the south. That's the south, the south. That's the south, the south. That's the south. That's the south. That's to to the south. That's the south. That's th. Yeah, th. It's the south. Yeah, th. It's the th. Yeah, th. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's the that's that's the south. It's the south. It's the south. It's the south. It's like, that's like, to get out of here. Yeah, I mean, and now shit it's a fan. Like, good luck. Dirt bikes and crossbows, bro.

Starting point is 01:32:08 This place is turned into many California. Like, they're building like a high-rise apartment right next to my house called California South. And I'm sure the locals are losing their mind over that. Yeah, like, dude, are you guys doing all right? If things kind of loosened up for you out there? Yeah, I mean like, yeah, I mean, I'm really amazed that we, they haven't, they keep trying to put bad mass and like people in general won't do it, but they're still dumb out here. Like when I went and voted, I was surrounded by people mass. I could not believe it.

Starting point is 01:32:46 And I... That's super California chicken still doesn't let you order normally. Yeah, I mean, they don't want you to eat indoors. It's like, they're like, why would we do that? We can make more money, doing it, turning and burning. That's a problem. It's changed a lot of their hours now, they used to be open late or aren't open late anymore even though they're just like, no. There's no real perks to living in LA anymore. Like there's just none.

Starting point is 01:33:11 There's a great energy here that you feel when you land at the airport and it hit you hard. It's like I did speed, right? And like when you get off the airport at airplane in LA and you're in that airport, you get hit with a zap of energy that makes me feel like I did when you took that first hit. Like you're just really like, whoa, it's go time out here, right? But the industry's dead, it's dying. I mean, there's very few people blowing up off of legacy media anymore. And I think that's a big issue for them.

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Starting point is 01:35:00 Totally. And I also feel like the like the people are kind of over Kanye now. Yeah. I think I think he that that is peak, Kanye. And I don't think I think people are ready to move on. What else is he going to say? There's nothing else he could say. Well no, literally there's a whole what's that? There's some law that is like a conversation on the internet devolved to where somebody compares somebody to Hitler. And he. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. People the thi. People is, the the thi. People is, thi. People is, thi. People. People. People. People. People. People. People. th. People. th. th. th. th. th. th. People. th. th. th. People. th. th. th. th. People. th. th. People. th. People. th. th. thi. People. People. People. thi. People is, thi. People is thi. People is thi. People the thi. People the thi. People thi. People the thi. People the the the thi. somebody compares somebody to Hitler and he just did like the real-life version of that he got to Nazism and praising Hitler and now yeah you're right Pete Kanya. I mean I heard you guys talking about it I mean I heard you guys talking about it. I mean I heard you guys think there's like I heard you guys talk like the idea of like just tiping over the whole chessboard dude. Like, you know what, you're gonna say this shit about us, you're gonna keep the shit about us, you're gonna say thi

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Starting point is 01:36:46 another Sam it doesn't matter, tam. You just do it. You just do it. Why? Because it's a it will be ratings but nobody. I think you could actually try to get at I think you should take a crack at trying to get at what he's trying to do. You know what what what's the end. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. t. t. t. t. t. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ttttte. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the end game? That would be the discussion. Yeah. Yeah. That would be the discussion. And I think you could kind of see it. Like, you know, you could kind of suss him out like what he's up to, I think. We'll see. I mean, doing all the big show, so we'll see if we'll come on to the, uh, this is a decent, a a a decent, a decent, a decent, the we're very blessed that the listeners listen and so we'll see man I mean like I just

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Starting point is 01:38:14 with Nick and it's in my telegram channel. I don't know if you guys saw get it. Someone sent it to me, but like, basically Gavin McGinnis went in and he says, I'm gonna have an intervention with yay and blah blah blah. So he went in with an agenda. And you know, I think that's where people's downfalls are. They go in and come at him with an agenda. And then the audience perceives that, oh, well, they're just being controlled. like dude just go in there no agenda Sam just be yourself you know you're hilarious guy and there would be a freaking awesome conversation and you know that be a freaking epic the only person that went in there with no agenda I think was Alex Friedman yeah I agree too that experiment went in there very

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Starting point is 01:39:13 No. Like if you see who he is, he's very just like, where's his tux? Has the most boring? I mean, that's a whole, that's an affect too, though. The tux and that whole is. I think he totally had an agenda and like when you say it, that doesn't always necessarily mean it's bad. Yeah, I mean, they're, the an incredibly smart guy. I mean, he's like we talk about... He wasn't emotional though. You know, he wasn't reacting emotionally to Kanye and I think that's really important when you're interviewing him not to react emotionally because he kind of meets that energy.

Starting point is 01:39:52 So, it was so interesting. Again, I was doing a live stream with Brad last night. Scott, we should do the Alex Jones story and like, you know, people are always like, Sam, why don't you admit it's a juice? And like, because I don't believe that, right? Oh, Sam's afraid of getting on canceled by his masters. I'm like, you guys know me, who is my master? No one. Like, I do what I want to do. What I want. What? What? What? What? What? What? What I want to? What? What? Do? Do? Do? Do? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? Well? I want to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? Alex? too? Alex? too? Alex. too? Alex? to? Alex? the to?, who is my master? No one. Like, I do what I want

Starting point is 01:40:28 to do. Two little girls are your master. That's about it. That's literally it. And as far as I know, they're not Jewish. Oh, man. I'm all about like, you know, no victimhood, man. Like, there's been periods of my life where I was the victim. Sam, you know what I mean, when you're, when you're, when you're in like in like in like in like in like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, where I was the victim, Sam, you know what I mean? Like when you're in like trapped an addiction, like it's like I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the whole world owes me everything and I'm like the victim, and I'm like the victim, thiii. And I'm like the victimhood mentality and like the victimhood thing is just so weak and the come from, you know what I mean? It's like, just go up there and crush, don't, don't, don't.

Starting point is 01:41:08 And you have to ask who is saying that? Yeah. And why are they saying that? And then look at who they are and where they're from. just step in, like I remember during the Asian hate movement, right, there was all these Asian comedians on these billboards and some of them are my friends, some of them I really admire, but most of them were millionaires tenfold and they're talking about, and they're talking about all man, you know, this Asian hate against. It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah. You're just stepping into some opportunity to just cause division.

Starting point is 01:41:52 That's all it is, right? And then like my favorite part was Asians complaining about Asian hate, blaming white people as black people were knocking out Asian grandmas. And everyone, like it, that's why that died so quickly because it never felt, never, tel, tell-up, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, to to to to to to to to to to to mas. And everyone like it, that's why that died so quickly because it never felt, never felt original. And it's like you should never hit anybody based on any kind of race or, you shouldn't have anyone at all. The notion of a hate crime is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. It's so dumb. I don't know any

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Starting point is 01:42:55 Like, you got to have love plus a little bit more. I was like, whoa. Well, I'm convinced, Scott, that the reason that women go to comedy clubs and complain about jokes being so mean, but then love murder is because murder is the ultimate emotional response. Yes. It's so, like, like the opposite, like the opposite. Like, the opposite. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the murder is the ultimate emotional response. Yes. It's the, and they, women are all about emotion. They, they, and I don't, I don't think women are, this is not a, I hate women podcast or anything like that. I love women, I come from a woman, my children are females. I love women. But like

Starting point is 01:43:45 the number one person to talk to the manager about joke being mean is a woman. The number one demographic for murder podcasts are women and the number one way to hurt feelings. the number one way to hurt feelings. So the mental gymnastics that comes along with that really makes me laugh. But that's, we're and this isn't just women either, but we're meant to be emotional animals. They've turned us into emotional animals, emotional absolute monkeys that we either you're whether they're against us, you know, it's like you know, it's like either you're on our side and if you're not on completely

Starting point is 01:44:27 100% or our side all gas no breaks you are the enemy and you are a Nazi but the bad not not the kind we funded the Ukraine or the ones who made NASA and the CIA and all those Nazis we're talking about the meaning Nazis who like we don't really know they're Nazis but because I disagree with their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their they're their they're their their their their they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to. to. to. tea. to. to. tea. their their their thoo. their their their their their their and all those Nazis. We're talking about the meany Nazis, who like we don't really know they're Nazis, but because I disagree at them, they're Nazis, those Nazis. Yeah, man, exactly. Yeah, that whole Nazi thing, don't even get me started on that. We were doing a lot of coverage on that over at T-Lab on the whole COVID narrative, he destroyed the whole vaccine narrative, and now he's destroying the whole Ukraine narrative.

Starting point is 01:45:05 It's just like, you just can't get it past him. Right? Well, and it's so weird. And then we'll end on here, Scott, so we don't want to keep you all day, but it's so weird how like the same people fall on the same side of every argument, right? It's like, it's so weird. Like, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, can can can can can't, can can't, can can can can't, can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can can, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the same, like, like, like, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same side of every argument, right? It's like, it's so weird, like the people who were, particularly white people, who were pro-BLM and went to the point towards the end where you would play a game called, find the black person at the BLM rally. Because it wasn't easy. They automatically fell into COVID, stay home,

Starting point is 01:45:51 get the vaccine, wear the mask, we're alone together, and they instantly fell into the Ukraine. And you're like, what is that? How are you batting a thousand on following for siops? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, exactly, man. So I don't know. That's that's again part of the part of the agenda too where it's like, you know, we get trapped into like every single thing the media says or the government says are we automatically expected to oppose it and every single with every shred of energy that we have, you know what I mean..... that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the that's the that's that's that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. I mean? But that seems to be the case. They're pretty consistent with it.

Starting point is 01:46:26 Anything they start espousing is like I'm automatically just by reflex I'm just going to oppose. I'm just not even going to do it, you know? They're consistent, but so are the people that believe it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's the same people just like the same people saying it's same people. But I would all it's very weird too because like I'm watching like homeless people walk around Masson. Yeah I've seen that. It's it's very weird. The ones at least asking for money I think they do that so that the people in the cars aren't afraid to to talk to them. I thought about you know. I think thi thi. I the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. the ones. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people. the people.......................... People...................... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.talk to them. I thought about you know what I think there's a method to their madness? Well at least with those because the other day I had the same impression this guy down the corner and I'm like why is he gonna oh and I'm like okay it's probably for the liberals the you know

Starting point is 01:47:12 virtue signaling homeless people in LA yeah yeah that's how we do we really by the way they have multiple floors in their they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they have they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their they to they to to to to they they they they they they they their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the way, they have multiple floors in their home encampments. It's like unbelievable. The only way you can get something built in LA is have a homeless person to it. You get a degree in homeless engineering, dude. Like I built like four stories. They had like a whole compards and out in some storm drain, like in Compton or something, a whole complex that they like demolished a couple weeks ago, but like apartments like legit.

Starting point is 01:47:44 Yeah. a whole complex that they like the miles a couple weeks ago but like apartments were in like legit yeah yeah and one guy was living underground like he had a basement there's one guy whose job it is just to lift you up to the second floor he's the he's the elevator you don't you don't think a homeless to another homeless we can't share needles because you haven't got the vaccine oh I guarantee that went down even though he probably didn't believe he just didn't want to give it to him, I guarantee you that you don't got the booster, I can't share it with you. You're asking the hard-hitting questions, dude. Oh, those are skid-robed questions I might have to go ask. All right.

Starting point is 01:48:13 There's an age joke in there somewhere. I just can't hold up. Okay, well, well, it is what. is and man crazy times. Scott it was good to talk to you again and I appreciate you know your journey as two guys in recovery I appreciate how you've taken control of your life and you're doing amazing things I really do appreciate you brother and yeah man we'll talk to you soon man thank you so much one more time Scott where, where can they find you? Yeah, yeah, well, thank you guys all so much, man.

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Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #628: The False Memory Syndrome Foundation With Scott Armstrong

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