Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #636: The Invisible Hand In Psyops And False Flags With Chris Graves

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hap. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed. And a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere.

Starting point is 00:00:29 That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Good! Morning, it's warm and welcome to Tim Fall. Good! Morning, to him. And ready to get your mind blown? Good morning's warm and welcome to Tim Fall Hat. You know I am, you know what I'm here to do?

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Starting point is 00:00:57 . How are you? Dealing with the brain. It's crazy. Guys, we got a great show for you, man. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to tho. the to the to to to to the the to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th............................................................................................................................... dealing with the brain. It's crazy. Guys, we got a great show for you, we got a great show for you, man. We go hard in the paint with our good friend Chris Graves. We do all the PSIOPs. You'll love this one. It's nothing but bangers, okay?

Starting point is 00:01:18 Again, please, come see me live. I just want to say something real quick. Oh yeah, I got a couple things to talk about. First of all, I want to get into, you're going to see me in Phoenix, Arizona. I was just in Batavia. Couldn't be a better club. Comedy Volt. Crushes it. The staff is great. Liz, the owner's great. And just the crowds. Usually you get one bad crowdy a weekend. No bad crowds. No bad crowds. There we go. Tons of swarm. I love you all very

Starting point is 00:01:47 much. A lot of you guys gave me some gifts. Day I was supposed to give me the names. I appreciate the gifts you gave me. Thank you so much. And I look forward to coming Patalia again. Thank you for my gifts. I love it. If you want to see me Crush. I'm about to shoot new special. So I'm going to be going through going th th going going th going to going to going to going to go going to go going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to be going to special. So I'm going to be going through this stuff. Feings, Arizona this weekend, January 19th through the 20th. Johnny Mitchell and my friend Jake Gallo, tickets are moving quick. Then the following weekend, next weekend, Long Beach will be a hard vows again. XG, Eddie Bravo, I'm just, I don't know. I'm just. You're okay? No, I'm not, just weirdness is coming through. And that's on a Thursday, and then on Saturday we have Baker's Field to Well, grab your tickets now, I'm gonna be doing a lot of running and a gun and so grab that, go to Sam

Starting point is 00:02:38 Troubley. to the ticket needs. Hey, real quick, I want th, I I, I, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go to go to go to go to go that, go that, go that, go that, go to go that, go that, go that, go that, go that, go that, go that, go. go. that, go. go. that, go, go, go, go, go, go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go. Go, go, go. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go to, go to, go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, go that, go toicket needs. Hey, real quick, I want to talk about there was a controversy over the weekend. I'm going to go into more death on Broken Sim about a picture I posted with Machine Gun Kelly. People you lost it. Sure was. Okay. That was meant to be a big fuck you to him. I was told not to post by a couple friends who you all love, told me not to post the videos him and I almost swinging at each other. You guys really have no clue about where I am in my life and everything I have going on my life. If you think I want anything that machine gun Kelly has, okay?

Starting point is 00:03:18 That was a big fuck you. I said I topped him, okay? Do you guys understand what was going on there? That was a big fuck you to him. Now, I will say I love you all very much. I understand your reaction because I didn't give any context. Now was he mad at you because of all the shit we talked about him on broken simulation? Oh, was he watch? Is he a watcher or a broken? Did I talk shit about him? Remember we played he played his music and we were like oh my god? Okay, so maybe so. the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he. I, the the the the the the the the the reaction, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I the reaction, I, I, I the reaction, I, I the reaction, I the reaction, I, I the reaction, I the reaction, I the reaction, I the reaction, I the reaction. I the reaction. I, I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I t. I today, I togu. I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I understand, I'm, I understand, I to to th. I understand, I th. I th maybe that word was he went there to go watch a certain comic and probably didn't like my Wigger joke, okay? And as some people said,

Starting point is 00:03:52 you did a joke about him. I can't wait to go. All right, so I understand it. You guys, you really have to understand what's happening in this world, bro. I, like, if you saw how I really live my told. thua. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the, the, th. to, th. th. th. th. the, the, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. to. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. the, th. th world, bro. I, like if you saw how I really live my life, you would really understand, I'm not selling out to anything. I live in a studio apartment right now. I'm moving out. I had to move out for certain reasons. Okay?

Starting point is 00:04:17 I drive a Mitsubishi, all right? It's a nice car. But, I, like, I'm tellingtelling you man I make my money off of I eat what I kill. Nobody's handed me dollars and you got to understand like I post that picture because I was trying to say a big F you to him and the comedy store asked me to take that picture at the time because it was getting it was we were gonna fight. I was there I kind of yeah it was it got everyone was talking about it was yeah where we gonna fight yeah you get a little on tradition Sam was Sam was ready to go I like dude trust

Starting point is 00:04:55 me I'm swinging I'm a legend you guys got understand it's his show like don't come to the show and talk shit it was that thing we're like yeah I'm broke because I don't want to get here but I understand I the the the you the the you the the the the the the to the to the to to to the to to to to to the the to to the to the to the the to to to to to to to to to to to th. I the the th. I th. I to go. I'm to go. I'm to go. I'm to go. I'm th. I'm th. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I th. I th. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm t. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. te. te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm the the the the the show and talk shit. It was that thing we're like yeah I'm broke cuz I don't want to get here, but I understand why you're angry and I would just hope Because I do love you very much swarm and I'm very appreciative of you and every show I want to make sure it's the best because I have life without you and I don't want to lose you And I'm very authentic to who I am. I'm not gonna lie to you, okay? And I don't, machine gun Kelly, I don't want anything he has at all. There's nothing he has that I want,

Starting point is 00:05:33 including Megan Fox, okay, I don't want her. I was looking for her. Yeah, I know you were. So, there's nothing I want at all. So, trust me, I walked to walk. Everyone's like, oh, I, oh, oh, oh, I, thin, I, th, I, th, th, th, I, th, th, th, I, I, th, I, th, I, I, I, th, I, I, th, I'm th, I'm th, I'm, I'm th, I'm, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. I'm, th, th, th, th, I'm, machine, I'm, I'm, I'm, machine, I'm, I'm, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, th. I, th. I, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. that, machine, that, that, that, machine, that, that, machine, that, machine, that, machine, machine, that, machine, thi. thi. thi. at all. So trust me, I walk to walk. Everyone's like, oh, grifting and all that stuff. I literally just gave away a show that I made money off of because I feel people needed it. I'm giving away for free. It's for free. I need that money. I'm giving away for free because I think the show is bigger than me paying my bills. It's called zero. You can now watch it for free. You can listen

Starting point is 00:06:05 to it for free and you can watch it for free. I'm not grifting on anybody, Doc. I just not. Like these guys hang out with me. They know who I am. I'm very, I take you guys listening to my show very seriously and I only make money off of what I produce. That's it. That's it. That's it. So I just wanted you get into that. Again, anything else guys? Uh, it's pretty much is it. This is great episode. I hope you really love it. This is, uh, enjoy it. It's with Chris Graves and we go nice deep down into basically all the siops and how it's the same people running the same games on us. And I hope you enjoy it because it's nothing but bingers. Enjoy. We go deep home, boy.

Starting point is 00:06:49 Dude, open your mind. Drink. All right, guys, let's get into it. Very excited to have her next guest on. He's a researcher for Donald Jeffries. I has a podcast called Getting Mad with Chris Graves. Please welcome Chris Graves. How are you brother? Hey Mr. Tripoli, it's an honor. I really appreciate the opportunity. Respect on the Mr. Tripli. Thank you, buddy. I love it. Thank you so much. I love that. I love that.

Starting point is 00:07:18 I love that. It's always weird when someone's introducing someone in comedy. I always hate when they say my name super early before they bring me up because it's supposed to be, ha! And that's kind of the big cheer right there. So I feel like I gave it away who you were when I introduced your podcast. It'd be very funny if it was like getting mad with Chris Graves, but your name was like Scott Thomas? Yeah, it's a good idea. So Chris, we never know. No, Chris, don't ever change. Don't ever change. I like where you are.

Starting point is 00:07:50 I have no clue where you are, but I'm digging the background very much. I love it. Yeah, I'm holding their New England here. No. Have you ever met Ron from New England? Have you ever met Ron from New England? Have you ever met him? He's a really great researcher too. I have not. No. We guys, we gotta get you guys together. So Chris, thank you for doing the show. Very honored that you join us. For our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can tell us a little bit

Starting point is 00:08:15 about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Yeah, I'm Chris Graves. And like I said before, a couple of years ago I came across Donald Jeffries author of a hidden history, crimes and cover-ups, bulliocry, survival, the richest. And I started, I reached out and I started doing research for his, you know, a bunch of his books that are coming up, Hidden History 3 is a big one where he kind of goes back into a lot of the topics from Hidden History like 9-11 JFK Junior. He's actually going to do a Hidden History 4 I believe too which is going to have a lot of the research about things like Columbine which I really went down and that's a rabbit old too that not a lot of people I feel really know too much about

Starting point is 00:09:03 that because 9-11 happened about two years after that. it, which, which, which, which, which, which, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and kind, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th, th. And th. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi. that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that because 9-11 happened about two years after that. And kind of, we've been bombarded with all these free shootings ever since. And then the war on terror and everything like that. So I started doing research, sending him articles and contact info for his, his shell eye protest. And from there, I got connected to people like Chuck O'Celi from the O'Celi.com network, and that's where my show get mad with Chris Graves is right now.

Starting point is 00:09:33 And he's a great producer. And I also came across of Mr. Tony Atterberg of Wise Wolf, Golden Silver, and we started doing a show called Paratrooter for a while there. And hopefully we could pick that back up too. Yeah, so I've been looking into conspiracies pretty much since the 90s starting with. Old school. Yeah, like UFOs and Bill Cooper and Kirk Cobain is a big one that, uh, that's one of my subjects that I'm really into.

Starting point is 00:10:01 But when 9-11 happened, uh, that one kind of changed my life like I'm sure a lot of other people too. And I've been pretty much studying it since the day and going forward. And I've looked up to people like the late, the late great Dave McGowan, who I consider to be pretty much the first 9-11 truther on 9-12. He pretty much had the whole official story broken down, like within the 24 hours. 100% pro there was it's so interesting that whole thing and you see it happen all the time there's an official story and then we work backwards from that and it's kind of crazy dude and it's like this whole hidden history is my favorite discussion it's my favorite discussion because it really does let you know when everyone goes.

Starting point is 00:10:48 Is everything a lie? Yeah, everything is a lie. Everything is a conspiracy. And the sooner you come to grips with that, the sooner you can open up that. And when you go all the way back, it's like what else they're lying to you? Lying to you about God and your connection with it. and like you're a very powerful being, you are where you are because of the decisions you've made and the actions you've taken and without that, the killer is within and the sooner you can own that and take control that, the sooner you can change your life.

Starting point is 00:11:15 And everything we're talking about right here is all dark arts magic to get you to manifest that you need them to save you. That's all it's about, and they're, they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the action the action the action the action their the action's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. the action you've the actions you've the actions you've the action the action the action the action the action the action the action the action the action the action the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their that's that's that, it's that, that, that, thi.a.a.a.a' a thia' a thia' a thia' a thia.a' a thia.a. thi you to manifest that you need them to, that you need them to save you. It's all it's about, and they're losing that power and they're starting to realize it right now. So... And if you really look at it, everything is connected to. Like everything seems to be a connection with all these events that I just mentioned. There always seems to be some kind of connection. Well, we're going to start with Kirk Cobain's death. I mean, that was a giant.

Starting point is 00:11:47 I mean, I mean, we can start with Kirk Cobain's death, but we can look back to all the deaths that have happened to celebrities and all, and all, they kind of, it's very interesting because they really love the prop people up, but what drives them crazy is when you go off the reservation. And to to to the reservation and you to, and you to the reservation, and you stop the reservation, and you start, and you start, and they, and they, and they, and their, it their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's th. It's their, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, th. to, th. th. to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, th. thin, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the prop people up but what drives them crazy is when you go off the reservation and you stop to and you start thinking for yourself you're like I'm a real boy right and that they hate that Pinocchio moment and that's why you see a lot of these rappers getting off they go off reservation they start talking about empowerment and they really hate that stuff and it's they they don't care if you do it from the start. I'm really starting to believe that.

Starting point is 00:12:27 Like if you come out as a truth or early on in your journey and you build your own, they're less likely they'd be concerned about you. Or you know, I mean those shadow ban you, they'll do all that, they'll make it impossible. But man, when they blow you up and you decide to do to do to do you you to do their. Now is that just because it's a betrayal or because you're bringing people from their side over to the other side? Both. But it's more the second one in my humble opinion. Would you say that Kanye was like that? Because Kanye used to have that Jesus Walk song. He used to always be anti like, hey, the media. He used to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. they. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. thr. the. the. th. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their. their he used to tell people stop doing this stop doing that you think they kind of let Kanye run with it and that's why he got so far Kanye is an interesting case because you'd be like he's clicked all the boxes to be taken out and then he disappears and I got married and now we'll see

Starting point is 00:13:18 how this cat version of Kanye acts comes back like he's had a electro shock therapy oh one hundred percent tatters it is he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could be he could be he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he could he's had electro shock therapy. Oh 100% tattoos. He's looking different. Is he? It could be a clone. I got a friend of mine freaking out about clones today, call me up. Like they got our DNA, they're going to clone us. I'm like, they're going to clone all of us. Why'd they clone me?

Starting point is 00:13:39 Why? Right? Yeah. One is enough. Jesus. Yeah, yeah, well, they're going to replace me with and do. So let's get the Kurt Cobain's death. And you've been studying for more in 25 years. It's very interesting. The fact that so many people point to his wife and like she's still going and like she's still like out there trying to be relevant. It's just in the news yeah for this you know accusing Brad Pitt of getting her kicked off of Fight Club. Well you know my favorite part is she's like he kicked me off the movie after I

Starting point is 00:14:12 kicked him off this movie you're like yeah. That was it yeah he wanted to play a Cobain in a biopic and she said he wasn't right for it so we're supposed to... Well, Scarlet, she wanted Scarlet Scarlet Johansen to play her. And I don't think Scarlet wanted anything to do with it. So I think that could have had something to do with it too. Well, you know she's, she's either on trial right now or being sued because she's supposedly put a hit out on her daughter's fiance because her daughter gave her fiance one of Kirk Cobain's guitars and her mother didn't want her to do that.

Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, it was the unplugged in New York guitar. It was supposed to be a wedding gift. Holy shit. And then when they went to split court, it was like, that's not yours anymore. Yeah. And teamed up with the guy, Sam, not Tripoli, obviously, but the other guy. That sound bite will be clear. The other guy who got Sam that was kind of trying to control Britney Spears there for a while. It's the same creep.

Starting point is 00:15:16 That's a hell of a gift. Yeah. So yeah, in that trial, or at least in the court proceedings, Francis Bean, Courtney and Kurt's daughter, actually, the soon-to-be ex-husband Isaac, he's a musician too. He actually hired Tom Grant of all people to be a part of his legal defense team. And that's where Tom Grant was actually Courtney's private investigator that kind of got the murder theory like out in the open back in 1994 or late 94 while he was actually still working for Courtney and

Starting point is 00:15:55 she knew that he Tom was kind of on to her but she instead of you know doing the logical thing by firing it be all upset and enraged she She kept him working for for another eight months I believe, eight to ten months I think and kind of keep your enemies closer, take deal. Yeah. So what's interesting about Courtney Love is that and there's a lot of things interesting and it kind of gets down to the whole thing. It's like you know whether you want look at the Unabom or whatever, like there is a lot of trauma th th th th th of th of th of th of th of th of th of th of th of thu-a thu-a thu-a thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thu, and thr-a thr-a thr-a, and thro, and thro-a, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thin, and thin, and thin, and, and thin, and thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, thin, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, the, thin, the, the, the, their, their, thi, thi, thi want to look at the unibom or whatever like there is a lot of trauma in this girl's life the people that were supposed to protect her didn't and she was put through the mill like she was put through like some of the most disgusting things that a man would allow his daughter to go through and there was a lot of chaos in her life. do you want to to to to to to to to to to tak to to to to tell to to to to tell to tell to to to to tell to tell tell tell tell tell tell try try try to try tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th out th out th out th out th out tho tho tho tho tho to to to to the to the to the to to thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo the tho tho tho tho the ths that a man would allow his daughter to go through. And there was a lot of

Starting point is 00:16:46 chaos in her life. Do you want to talk anything about that and her father's connections to the intelligence services? Well here's the thing Hank Harrison just passed away earlier this year. And I think he, one of the last interviews he did was actually with my buddy and producer Chuck O'Cellie. Chuck had told me that right before Hank died, he was trying to get a hold of my buddy Chuck because he had something urgent to tell him. And we have no idea what that could have been,

Starting point is 00:17:17 but Hank Harrison, Courtney's father was the Grateful Dead's first manager. And over the years, Courtney, had made the claims that Hank actually gave her LSD when she was two. So, yeah, so when you go, when you say about the Toronto thing, as much as I dislike Courtney love, I mean, I do have a little bit of sympathy there because it's possible that you know she really I don't want to say you didn't have a choice but you know what other avenues could she have gone down if a lot of that stuff was per real especially if you go into like the Kathy O'Brien type situation with M.K. Ultra and you know all the the elites using these you know these poor girls that become you know sex slaves and human trafficking and then you got the male the the the the the the the the the the the the the the male the male the male the male the male the male the male the male the male the male the male the male thiiol. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. You thi. You thi thi thi. You didn't thi. You didn't thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. You didn't thi. You didn't the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the elites using these, you know, these poor girls that become, you know, sex slaves

Starting point is 00:18:06 and the human trafficking. And then you got the male side of it where, you know, they become either a free shooter or a serial killer or, or whatever. But yeah, Hank Harrison is, he's fascinating. Because for years, I had always thought that he was just an opportunist, that he just basically, you know, he wasn't in his daughter's life at all. And then he writes a book about Kurt's death, you know, basically saying that she had him killed.

Starting point is 00:18:35 And having never met his son-in-law, apparently too. So I don't, you know what I mean? So with him, he may be known that he was friends with a guy that on his death-beth-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-in-o-o-o-o-in-in-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-hea-he-hee. th. th. th. thi-hee. thi-hee. thi-hee. th. th. th-hee. th. th-hee. th. th. th don't, you know what I mean? So with him, he made it be known that he was friends with a guy that on his deathbed, this friend told him that he was a CIA, he was in the CIA and he actually hooked up with Corny when she was 17 and gave Courtney like a thousand tabs of acid to pass around in Ireland and over in Liverpool and things like that for the music scene, kind of like the Yoko Ono thing, kind of goes back to the where Yoko kind of takes back John from May Pang during the lost weekend that like lasted a couple years there. Watch out Johnny.

Starting point is 00:19:20 No, he's right. I mean, Yoko let him go stay with May Pang in LA and then and then brought him back run back to New York. Yeah. And then just like with Courtney and Kurt like a yoko was all of a sudden pregnant with Sean and there was no more May Pang and John was back on heroin you know it just reminded me of that too because with Kurt shortly after they started dating him in too because with Kurt, shortly after they started dating him in Courtney, Kurt all of a sudden was on heroin and a lot of his friends that were around him said he never messed with that stuff prior to that.

Starting point is 00:19:53 Well he had like a stomach condition like a pinch nerve. So I mean what better way to ease your pain I guess but she pretty much to her hooks into him into him and was pregnant like fairly quickly into that relationship. And he did the right thing. He married her and I feel like he was kind of, he was kind of a victim in that way just because he didn't want to repeat his own childhood being the child of divorce, you know, in the 70s.

Starting point is 00:20:22 So I think he was trying to do the right thing. Now even as a rising rock star, you know, and she got her hooks into him. And the death of Kurt Cobain, just like all these conspiracies, is kind of this assault on your senses. I just talked about this early on in Conspiracy Social Club today with Brian, but you know, they are trying to convince you that your eyes and your mind are lying to you. Yeah, and that, you know, if you even go back to 9-11, like the notion that the most fortified airspace somehow lost this plane for 45 minutes and this just happened the world. There's no cameras in Washington DC working, right?

Starting point is 00:21:08 None? Well, all these cameras. That's what is. It's they really don't want you to believe your senses. All this stuff. I don't even think it's just sense. Like the lot, like he can't shoot that. It's not even senses. Well, that's senses. Okay, well, yeah, but... That's your eyes telling you that the, it's impossible to do that.

Starting point is 00:21:28 It's impossible for a plane to try. It's fundamentally doubt. You're doubting yourself. Yeah. That's all of this right now. That's what it is. It clipped lamppthe wings, right? And that's where all the jet fuel is supposed to be. This should be, it should have actually blown up on the lawn

Starting point is 00:21:50 before it even was able to penetrate anything. There's no wreckage there, nothing. Yeah, I mean, so this is what it is. And some people, I've had somebody talked to me about this, and I think I already talked about, but that that that that that that that that th, th and th, tho, thi about thi about, thi about, thi, thi, thi, thi, they about, they about, thi, thi, they about, they about, they, they, they about, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, thi, they, thi, thi, thi, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, th. tooo. too. th. th. th. th. thed to me about this I think I already talked about but that they believe that the Mandela effect is being done on purpose. I've heard that too yeah. So like if we... By whom? By like the AI? The government? Like maybe they have... I really think it's publishers clearinghouse. They don't want us to know that Ed McMahon worked for them and give those big checks to everyone because now you look it up up up up up up up up up up up the their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. I they. I they. they. I they. I they. they. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I they. I they. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the. I'm the. the. the. to. the. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I you look it up he never worked with him at all I remember many cartoons in the 1980s being interrupted with those stupid commercials with it wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you're saying the Ed McMahon never work for publishers

Starting point is 00:22:35 clearinghouse no it's creepy are you can't up now I remember it and I remember that's what they're saying now that's the only reason anybody who who was of my age no because no no they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they they to they to to they to they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they're they're they're they're th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they're saying now. That's unbelievable. Because I remember that's the only reason anybody who was of my age no because he was off the air with Carson you know by the time we were watching TV. Yeah, that's the only research't as big as as we believe it is, right? Like, we believe it's this vast thing and dead internet tells you it's not. That's unbelievable. Right? This is the, this might be the one that's the most, uh, shocking. Yeah, because I remember it. I was pissed as a kid, the child

Starting point is 00:23:21 of the 80s. All my cartoons, I had to watch this old Johnny Carson sidekick give these oversized checks and apparently that never happened But you want this a video? Yeah They're saying he's not in it. That's right. Well see I know I just remember him doing voice over. I don't remember him. I remember him standing there. I remember him not necessarily giving them a checks, but being in the studio? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. him standing there. I remember him not necessarily giving them a check, but being in the studio talking about publishers clearing out. So what, what if DARPA has a way? Well, they say a lot of people say CERN has something to do with it. I don't know about buy into that, but you never know. Well, I mean, well, CERN is that there's a Mandela effect and we're on a different time. But if we're talking about the government could be doing us on purpose so we don't know our,

Starting point is 00:24:13 we don't trust our senses. What if they have a way to go through the entire internet and replace stuff? Like it sounds so advanced to us, but who knows what DARPA is, we always know the 30 years ahead of us? That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, thi, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi advanced to us, but who knows what DARPA, we always know the 30 years ahead of us. That's what they tell us, you know, that's what we've been told. You know, I'll see. If you look at stuff like Sandy Hook or even 9-11, there's a lot of footage that I remember from watching it, it wasn't a Mandela effect I think. They clearly went through all those b blogs, WordPress blogs, and I pulled all that stuff out. And I can find it to an extent, but there's so much more like from 9-11. Even Columbine, like I was telling you, there was footage of other shooters jumping over fences

Starting point is 00:24:56 in the neighborhood, going into the neighborhood. And there was footage of the shooter on the roof and everything. That's all pulled. So they, your theory, it might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might. It might might might. It might. It might. It might. It might. It might. It might. It might. the. the. to be. to be. to be. the. the. to, it. to, it. to, it. to, it. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the shooter on the roof and everything. That's all pulled. So they, I, your theory, it might not be so much a theory after all. I mean, to just get everyone to like the biggest, besides COVID, like the biggest sigh off would be to pretty much redo the internet in their own way to convince us that things like the Statue of Liberty, I remember people said that they could go up into the torch....................... the, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they..... And, they.e.e.e.e.e.e. they.e.e.e.e.e.e. they.e.e. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. theirthey could go up into the torch and some people even claim to have gotten pictures up in the torch And apparently now they say that we They haven't had the torch open for like 80 years or something The other big one for me is the bloom logo that it never had the what do you think about the fruit of the loom logo?

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Starting point is 00:26:32 Where they're... Department of bullshit? Yeah, they go back and they redo everything. And like, you know, again, this fights with Brian Callan all the time on Conspiracy Social Club. If you want to watch thoachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachachach a thuuuu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, so tho, so tho, so tho, so tho, so tho, so thi, thi, so tho, so th, so th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi-nipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipipip, thi, thiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, this fights with Brian Callan all the time on Conspiracy Social Club. If you want to watch that show, you can watch free episodes now, up-to-date, free episodes, aka Deep Waters. Just put in the search bar, aka Deep Waters, please subscribe to it. Also, what's going on? What's going on? Are we doing a new channel for Broken Sim or what are we doing? Well right now I mean it's always gonna be on audio same place. Yeah, YouTube we're trying to figure out what check that out so I'm all thought great show Sam It's awesome. Thank you I pre- we're trying we're trying we're trying, we're trying

Starting point is 00:27:16 but I'm always my whole I don't even remember what my point was. I was taking it. Your point was something that I hadn't even considered that even the Mandela effect could have been a contrived sigh-off and I thought it was just more of this fun like oh yeah you know that you know people do misremember things but to this extent I mean there's so much like I remember the T Tiamanmen Square guy actually getting smushed for lack of a better term. Now they're saying he got edited so he didn't see it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's super. It's like beyond interesting dude. Hey everybody want to tell you about our friends at copy my crypto. That's right our good friend James McMahon. Listen so many people are making ridiculous money from crypto but did you know it's easy for you to do the same? The copy my crypto membership site shows you the coins that YouTube or James McMahon personally holds and allows you to copy him. It's like having a big brother who knows

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Starting point is 00:29:52 broad strokes that everyone in these, these groups are all bad. Right. I don't want to do that because I hate the apples in every group. That If these bad apples weren't there how much of this chaos would happen. You know when you study, there's a lot of people who are talking about almost every revolution has been a banker revolution. Even ours when we revolt against the monarchy was like controlled by bankers, Rothschilds and all that stuff and yes sometimes great things come out of controlled opposition sometimes you know like if the internet is and it was created by DARPA all this amazing stuff has happened and sometimes we talked about all the time on here gets away

Starting point is 00:30:39 from them just gets away from them you know when they talked earlier excuse me they talked about how they thought there was gonna be like seven websites. Now everybody's got a website. Right, right. So things get away from them and they have to, they have to make it think, they have to make us think that's our choice that everything's going on. But little by little, little by little by little by little by little by little by little by little, the little by little, the little by little by little, the little by little, they, th, th, th, th, little by little, thi, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, thi, little, little, little, they're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th're just tipping stuff in certain directions. Sometimes they blot and force. If you really, if it really got out of the hand, I do think there was something to her. They kept talking about Obama's kill switch.

Starting point is 00:31:12 I think most definitely that could be the possibility. But I don't think whoever the powers that be believe that that was that was necessary a couple years ago. But let's get into that. That was that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was that was that was that was th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, if thi, if thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, if thi, if thi, thi, thi thi thi, th is really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi really came down to it, I think they would shut it off in a second. Well, let's get into that. Let's get into that because, you know, that's a big talk right now is that, you know, we got clashed power bottom swab going, and all the precedented actions of the power altage that would make COVID look like. So you're like, okay, so let the the, the, they. they. they. they. th. thi. thi. thi. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu, thu, thu, thoes. that's, thu. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. We. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's thooooooooeses. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thoes. that would make COVID look like. So you're like, okay, so let me get this right. You're gonna knock out the power.

Starting point is 00:31:48 Everyone's gonna go crazy, but you know what else they're not gonna be getting? Your propaganda. Are you really, how long can you go without banging us with propaganda before we all start to wake up? So you're gonna push it now with COVID, where we're all waking up that you lied to wake up. So you're going to push it now with COVID, where we're all waking up that you lied to us. Now you're talking about this is all going to happen and then it happens and you think you're going to get us back. How do you get that information though without the internet? How do you get the information that's made us all realize it's all bullshit without the internet? Maybe they've got to do the internet outweighs us, you know,

Starting point is 00:32:25 because our propaganda is not effective anymore. Right. Maybe, maybe they want to kill the internet. It's worth it for them to do that. Yeah, but, yeah, but, the TV to... All your TV's on the internet. And you're talking about... That's what I'm saying they've been doing this for a long time before right? Like power. Yeah, but yeah, but let's really get into like the propaganda has really been ramped up with tel a vision and And and radio if that's all gone because how is the tel a vision gonna run with no power? How is the radio going to be sent? Radio waves gonna be sound without power? How is that going to reach as many people as possible? Like I don't, I'm not saying this can't happen but I think that's, they may hit the complete our reset button. I told you that's what

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Starting point is 00:34:05 like from Alaska, where they even say, besides control on weather patterns and things like that, it also can put stuff into people's minds still. Yeah, I think that I think they can do that for sure. I think voice, voice the skull, voice of God is huge technology, and they use it tha tha tha tha tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, tho, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the tho, thu..... that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, togoge, toge, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooo, that, that, thology and they use it all the time. They try to do it on Berkowitz, on the guy at Waco, the branch of Davidians, they would try to get it. They have Corrush. Charlton, the Heston. Yeah, you have your Coresh, yeah, they try, there was Newsweek in 94. They did a thing where they compound and try to get Koresh to give up that way thinking that he actually was hearing the voice of God but they were going to do it

Starting point is 00:34:48 with that technology that Sam just brought up. Do you ever get a feeling that you're hearing that that's happened to you? I was actually thinking what voice I would hear what would come to? But do you ever hear like like thoughts? Morgan Freeman? I sometimes th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're th. th. they're they're they're they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were th. th. th. th. th. the. the. that. that. that. thi. that. thi. thooooo. the. they're they're they're they're they're they were they were they Freeman. I sometimes think there's thoughts all the time being put in. That aren't yours? Yeah. Yeah, sometimes I think like Daniel Stern from the one to yours is narrating my life. That's so fun. So we got, going back to Courtney Love, we got Courtney Love, her late father who has ties in intelligence. Prior, now, in your notes you say, there were prior attempts on who Cobain? Yeah, the Romans said about a, but a month prior to that, he went into a coma. And when Courtney, after Kurt died, Courtney said that that was a suicide attempt.

Starting point is 00:35:39 But while Kurt was still alive, she claimed in the media that it was just a misunderstanding. So while Kurt was getting his memories back, and I think that has a lot to do with her more erratic behavior leading up to Kurt, Kurt's body being found. I think she was a, this is speculation here on my part, but I feel like she was getting really, really nervous that he might regain his memories of what happened in the, in the hotel room, that caused that. That that that that that that that his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his his memories that that that that, that, that, that, th his memories, really nervous that he might regain his memories of what happened in the hotel room that caused that coma to happen in first place. Because he had a whole bunch of the roof, you know, the date rape drug that they called the Roe hypno.

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Starting point is 00:37:10 I don't usually go into that one, but she did bring him back, but I think she was surprised. You know, but the Rome incident is what is known as, and Tom Grant goes into that too. He actually had another note that he had written that Courtney admitted to on, on the audio that Tom Grant was recording... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th. th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, that one, that one, that one that one that one that one that one that one thee the the the thea. the thoooooooo.that he had written that Courtney admitted to on the audio that Tom Grant was recording because he was a private investigator and when he found these things to be questionable, he started recording all of his conversations, which I guess he had the right to do because he was a licensed PI. So she, she admitted that the note that he had had for her was not flattering. Was basically saying that he was going to take his money and leave. And I guess in his hand, he had a whole bunch of money clenched in his fist while he was unconscious.

Starting point is 00:38:00 He had his coat on. So yeah, so that definitely points to a first attempt at least. And people don't remember this either, but in Rolling Stone magazine, they announced that Nirvana was breaking up. And that was in the month prior to his body being found too. So, and Dave Grohl. I don't know, man, especially with COVID thing and they help Taylor Hawkins and all that stuff now. I mean to lose two blonde guys in your band? I mean, I know, yeah. I mean it's weird, bro.

Starting point is 00:38:34 Well dude, I told you, remember right before Taylor Hawkins died, they were in, the band was in Rolling Stone and Dave Grohl was talking about how he did like Satan, Satan worship stuff to like a bunch of rituals and stuff to get to get where he was you know and he was kind of joking about it recently with I had a bunch of that in it like Satan and things yeah well you know you want to get into some military roles in this like word is Dave Grohl's father's very connected as well. In politics, yeah, in Washington. He grew up in the DC punk scene, you know, just like Henry Rollins.

Starting point is 00:39:13 You know, there's a lot of connected. Dave McGowan went into that too, with weird scenes inside the canyon. His book about the military intelligence and, and just the alphabet agencies infiltration of the entertainment world in Hollywood and music. If you look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which apparently never happened now, we found that decades after the fact, Admiral Moore, Jim Morrison of the doors, his father was behind the Gulf of Tonkin incident. And then all of a sudden his son pops up the next year or within the same amount of the doors, his father was behind the Gulf of Tonic incident. And then all of a sudden his son pops up the next year or within the same amount of time.

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Starting point is 00:40:48 he surround him with some people to make him look good if it's so long he can carry a tune a little bit he's not that bad right but you know there are suit like David Grohl like David Grohl is obviously talented. And like it's not that they, that these people are all void of talent. It's that they just have a pool of people they want to use and they find the most talented ones. And there's ways they do this. Mickey Mouse Club, Nickelodeon, those are two ways they find really like power, really, really talented children.

Starting point is 00:41:28 That's a great way of doing it. And then they do it through the scenes, there's people who are looking at them and like, like dude, maybe they never had Facebook forever, but they've always had ways. That's what those reality singing shows were all about, bringing out people who would obviously prostitute themselves for fame. And then they also, I mean, you don't think they know these people? So let's get into Shane Gillis, right? When he was going, not that I don't think Shane Gillis is in any way,

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Starting point is 00:42:25 this guy's super talented, he's got this, we're gonna use this to promote Serenight Live. If he makes it to the cast, good for him. If he doesn't, we come off as people who care about feelings, and it's a win-win. I've had two female friends go through that on Saturday Night Live. So, so?? they they, they, they, before. So, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they're like, we, we, and they're like, and they're like, and they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they, we're they, we're they, we're they, we're they, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, there, theree, tho, tho, tho, thoan, thoan, thoan, theree. thoo-s, we're through that on Saturday Night Live. So you said they already had that on him? Yeah. Before you went on Saturday Night Live, they're like, look, let's let them audition. Because when he gets out of line, we'll have this ready to come up, cancel them and get rid of them. And then, so, okay. There's no way they put some the meltdowns. Whatever their they're meltdowns. they're they're meltdowns. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like. they. their. they're like. they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. th. the. the. the. theat. their. theateat. they. they.ir programming is going, hey wire, like they're coming down from it, whatever. I

Starting point is 00:43:09 don't know if you buy into that, but I mean that kind of makes sense too. Along with any kind of platform, in front of mass, a huge mass of people, they have to be controlled, just for the, you know, for public opinion, you know, that makes sense. I, I, I believe, I believe, I, I, I, that that that that that th, I, I, I, I, I, th, I, th, th, th, th, I, their their they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're they're, they're they're, they're they're, they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, their, I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the you know for public opinion. You know I I believe that there anybody through the legacy media wherever at that level Is there because of certain reasons? All right. I want to tell you about our friends at draft Kings that's right the NFL playoff action continues where one step close to the Super Bowl 57 and for the NFL divisional round check out Draft King's Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL. New customers can bet just five dollars and get 200 and free bets instantly okay plus all the new and existing customers can take a shot even bigger payouts with draft Kings. Step Step up, same gay, parlays.

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Starting point is 00:45:12 apply. See the notes for details. All right. So I wanted to get into this because you wanted to talk about weird scenes from inside the canyon. And it's like, so here we are 2023 you know the comedy store which is my home I love it very much but at one point it was the cultural epicenter of two things comedy and podcasting so I think you can say the

Starting point is 00:45:40 mob well I mean that was way before that way before thatthat, but I mean like you, like as much as I shit on Hollywood comedy in a Hollywood comedy scene, okay, the Hollywood comedy scene basically made comedy podcast like the thing for comedians to do. Whether you want to go from Adam Carolla starting off, Mark Maren, Rogin and then everybody, you know, what the role Brian Red Band had? Like how, like how, like, like, how, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, I, I, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Mark Maren, Rogan, and then everybody, you know, what the role Brian Redband had? Like how, like no one will ever give Brian Redband the credit he deserved. He's great. Yeah, he was there from the beginning.

Starting point is 00:46:16 This kind of thing where it's like for the first time ever, death squad, you know, outside of like, you know, legacy media, which was, you know, Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony were like, more of a fringe, but they still were on like corporate radio until they weren't, right? In Boston, yeah, they got kicked out because of that. Yeah. Yeah. But the, but the creation of like the kind of outlaw comedy podcast that wasn't trying to be, you know, to play favor to the industry. Well, I think that, you know, Brian Redband is a giant face of that. Yeah, and he, I mean, he really had a vision of what it was going to be, you know, before anybody else. Just think of the savages that were on there, Joey Dias, Ari Schofir, Tom Seagora, Christina Pajinsky, Duncan Trussle, Brandes Shop, myself. Was that a better time when, because back then not everybody had a

Starting point is 00:47:10 podcast so everybody was willing to go on a podcast like that and you know hang out. And now everybody's got their own podcast so they don't, they're not jumping around. Oh, I think it's the best time ever. they're dying to try to control the narrative and I don't see how they can. I have my, I get a lot of shit for my take on Andrew Tate, but I think Andrew Tate is, I mean you want to get into former son of CIA, you know, there's a lot. But you don't think he's got a little bit of Jordan Peters messages? Because that's what my thing is. Like, yeah, I don't think the whole Matrix thing. I think he's kind of like, uh, but the whole message to man, I think it's a good message.

Starting point is 00:47:48 That part of him. But, but can we, listen, I'm not anti Andrew Tate. I think Andrew Tate has very important messages. your guy to be the message and and well that's how you beat this though is that you splinter all the groups so that they're they all want to fight with each other fight among each other and they're all again identifying with these ideas I always goes to oh oh your control you know what I'm gonna do the guys when I finally move on my play I'm gonna film where I live where I lived I'm gonna film where I live in the closet so yeah to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they I I I I I ttttrylooooooooooooooooooo the the the the the the the the the the the the. Right, like, oh the last place? Yeah, where I live right now and hopefully I'm gonna do it before you clean in the, clean in the closet's out. Yeah, I'm a clean out and go, hey man, before you clean up.

Starting point is 00:48:30 This guy you think is controlled opposition and all part of this thing. His closet is filled with t-shirts that he's gotten from the 90 just so you know I mean it's like hilarious I'm getting so much shit now from old friends and stuff like that it's just like I don't like I'm all about the money I just made one of my podcast absolutely free I was making money off it I decided needs to be free I it's like crazy but this is part of the game now but my whole thing is like this canceling shit like I I'm shadow band, right? I'm not canceled There's a little bit of canceling as well like you kind of give people some street cred by

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Starting point is 00:50:07 I mean he seems to be. Yeah, he is. He seems to be. I mean, a lot of this is the theatrics. I don't know, man. I do think they how to play the game as well. But we'll see how much of that billion dollars or trillion dollars are going after him. How much?

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Starting point is 00:51:13 going to go, but yeah, you're very, you're very, you're very calculated in what you talk about. And you know, it's super, my good buddy Donald Jeff, is a huge victim of that shadow band thing. Even with other people's shows, it seems like now. And that's what we've been trying to get him on Tucker Carlson because Tucker's kind of mystifying to me too. Well, I mean, he should be. He was given permission to do that.

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Starting point is 00:52:28 For everybody. So you can herd people some way and then you run the other group to the other herder who heard some other ways. And this is done all the time, man. This is done all the time and we can kind of get into like the controlled opposition of, like, I mean mean take a look at like NWA like that's completely out of the siop. None of those guys were gangbangers. Like you know Ice Cube is a ice cube is basically the Larry the cable guy of gangster rap. He wasn't that guy. Tupac wasn't either. People got really mad at me because I didn't

Starting point is 00:53:01 topoc in my top five of all time because Tupac was a living player. Yeah. He was a dance thesbian. What do you mean by that? Living player? What is it? He played a role.

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Starting point is 00:53:46 Yeah, and his message he had some good songs where he has nice nice messages about don't. But towards the end he was like waking up to and he wanted to do his own thing. And you can't do that. And you watch all these people that kind of try to do their own thing. That's why I went to do his own thing. Yeah, it wasn't allowed to. And if they blow you up, they don't like it. So, you know, Michael Jackson lands in that theory with Hibler? 100%? Hibler, where he wanted to come out. Michael Jackson, Prince is like that.

Starting point is 00:54:14 You can even get into a point, Louis C.K. started going on his own shows starting to do his he put out his own specials They don't like that when they blow you up. They do not like you going off the reservation Doing your own thing. The thing about you think about two-poc remember he got hit with those sexual assault charges and went to prison for eight months Right, but the year before he died that seems to me like okay. Let's let's jerk the chain on him. the that? thr th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the th. that. the they. that. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. the year. the year. th. th. th. th. th. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the year. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their th. their the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the line and then it didn't work so then you don't think Andrew Tate's like that because he's been calling he's like they're gonna counsel me then they're gonna put me in jail and then they're gonna kill me I mean he's like I'm on strike number two so I got security on about it's probably going to happen. He's manifesting it. But it just you know like the whole thing was like oh dude his videos are everywhere because his fans put him up and I'm gonna get shit for this. I the message of Andrew Tate is not like I think it's very important but it's like the blow up of Andrew Tate is questionable to me and again. And again know, it's like everyone gives me shit for Joe Rogan, but it's like I could sit down and go, this is what happened with

Starting point is 00:55:29 Rogin. Rogin was the face of two things that weren't around a long time ago, UFC and and podcasting. Neither one was supposed to blow up. Well, Fear Factor, I mean you for Fear Factor, but you remember when he was doing Fear Factor? T, they thir-I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th-I. th. th-I. th-I. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi, thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thag, thag- th. It, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It was, th. It was, th. It was, thi. It was, thi. It was, thi. It was, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, thi. Fear Factor? They were like, look at this fucking loser. I remember reading articles, Joe Rogan kills his own career by doing Fear Factor. All the shit he got for doing Fear Factor? So it was huge. It was, I mean, even to him, it was a dumb concept when he first started it. Yeah, it's just long dollars, bro, but it's like you can, there's been people who have had, like, do you think, let's say, Troy Aikman, who's on the, or let's go, Chris Collinsworth, who's on the biggest show on television. If he started a podcast, do you think people would listen to his, I mean, think about what Joe Rogan used to talk about, and I'm gonna get so much share for this, but I mean, I'm gonna, the dude, the they............ to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. C. C. to. C. C. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tr. tr. the. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. mean, the dude's powerful. He did what he did. And I think, and I've said before, I think Tate is an answer to Joe Rogan.

Starting point is 00:56:28 They want, they want, Tate is CIA, a son of a CIA guy. And they want him to be, now, maybe I have blind spots. I don't know, and let me, let the kicking of my dick go in on the internet. This is just, it's another version, coattel pro but with podcast and things like that now. I think it 100% could happen and like I've said that. They're gonna send somebody to go to war with Rogan. And I think it's Tate, that's my opinion, and I'll be more and happy that.

Starting point is 00:57:00 Has he been targeting Rogan? I don't watch. Hey, so I don't, does he talk shit about? Well, he's been targeting Logan Paul. Well, he has said some things on Tate, but most of them is like his message is important. We're having a problem with men. Tate has said, has Tate said about Rogan though? Has he try to take it. I think the thing is to create also like, you know, the Rogan Bros. Why not take a little some of the Rogan from Rogan? Like, that's it, man.

Starting point is 00:57:34 And maybe I have blind spots and someday you'll be like you were wrong, maybe, but based on the man I know and the hanging out be you know with him is like he's authentic off camera as he is on camera but enough of that I want to get into because I'm sure I'm just adding fuel to the fire of everybody want to come at me because that's your friend that's your friend and you're sticking on for hey Chris stop that makes sense and logical don't you know thin to their friends is seen as weakness Don't you know we live in a world where it's like defending your friends is seen as weakness? Don't you know that? Come on, Chris. You're his slaves.

Starting point is 00:58:09 Come on, I'm a slave even though I make zero dollars off him. Yeah, I'm a slave. I'm a slave. I want to get into, because I want to talk about. Whatever you want to do it. Yeah, that's cool. Man. So let's get into some of these, you know, we're talking about, you know, this is a great lead in. You know, he's talking about they're going to go after him.

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Starting point is 01:01:51 half would celebrate it. Damn, damn. I didn't think about that. Holy shit. Yeah, a lot would celebrate it. I mean, guys, it's so interesting as we, like this thing starts out, you know, just play out. Johnny and I had Jeff Hilliard on the show. I talked about it on Rogan. Jeff Hilliard told a story about his psychic escort friend who was one of her clients was in fact Hunter Biden and told her during the primaries that his father was going to

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Starting point is 01:03:05 want you know that because they want camel toe. Are you guys ready for Montel Williams side chick to be president of the United States? His side bitch. Your rights can't argue it. They don't want you to believe your eyes. They want you, this is on the right that has a ton of controlled opposition people as well. Yeah, look at that. I don't even show it. Oh, right there. Right there. Look at that. That's going to be, that could be the president. The worst part is she's the more unattractive side one do. Where's that chick? Right there she's super hot but yeah Montauling side bitch is gonna be the leader three world. Do you think it would be in this term or if or they would wait for him to win the second turn? They want

Starting point is 01:03:55 him out because he can't he's he had to do all the things that the Democrats are gonna get credit for and they're going to say he did it. And with him out, they're like new slate, new person, trust us and they're going to try to and like but the problem is is that camel toe is no one likes her is polling it's so low but they don't care because again it's about not believing your eyes. I love that you call her. You call her that now. I can tell you don't even think it's a joke anymore. That's just her name in your head. You're like, yeah, Camelot.

Starting point is 01:04:29 So I was watching him crack up and I can tell you're not even thinking about it like a joke. He says it on stage. But I call, but I call, I call Biden, Burney's, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th and I, th and I, th, th, thin, thin, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, th. thin, th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th. th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, the formaldehyde starting to wear off you know. Something's going on with them and it's very interesting but I mean this is all about them them making you feel like you have no say. So much of these stories that are being put out is just there to make you feel like you have no power. Right? All these robots at that Boston dynamic right there got that's inevitable Oh, we are already at boots on in Ukraine You might as well let's go over there

Starting point is 01:05:10 Manifest for us to go over there. You have no saying it's like no dude. You have all the say you have all the power People are waking up to it all the time and what's gonna happen though is the counter counter pro? Co and top pro or come yeah, they're they. they. they. they. they. they're? They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're are. People. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are. People are they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're though is the counter counter pro what's it called counter pro co and tell pro or come yeah that they're going to try to steer you again away so now you have all these crazies on the right driving everybody back to the left that's what they do all the time you need to cut out all the crazies you need to go with common sense that's what it is that's w- th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the they the they they they they th the they th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th is th is th is th is the the is that is thi the is the is to to to to to th is th is th is th is th is th is th is to to to to to to to to to to to th is thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. the the the the the the thi the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi the is the is the is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the is the is the is. That's where the good, they don't want you to believe in common sense. They want to- Just Operation Mockingbird for anyone listening and watching. Just look up Operation Mockingbird.

Starting point is 01:05:53 That was a CIA steering public opinion with members that they had implanted in the media. Do me whatever agenda. Johnny do me a favor or Xiever bring up Operation Northwood. I want you guys to do this. Read Operation Northwood. I just did it I just did a special one of those digging Chris Graves things that I think got me Shadowband because the whole episode was me and Jason Barker a guy that's on Knights of the Storm podcast, we had the whole document and we went through Northwoods with a fine-tooth comb. I want to read this to you. It's basically 9-11 almost and some of these spree shooters.

Starting point is 01:06:34 Hold on, listen to this. Okay, Operation North was a proposed false flag operation against American citizens that originated within the Department of Defense and the United States government in 1962. The proposal called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of violent terrorism against the American military civil targets blaming the Cubans and using the justified war against Cubans. The possibilities detailed in the documents included remote control civil civil aircraft which would be secretly repainted as US Air Force planes the possible assassination of

Starting point is 01:07:12 Cuban immigrants sinking in boats to Cuban refugees on the high seas blowing up a US ship orchestrating terrorism in the US. So what and this is going keep going down keep going down keep going down keep going down. Keep going down. What the real story was and correct me if I'm wrong Chris is that they were they were going they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they were going, they, they were going, they, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the they, which, which, which, which th, which the, which their their their their their their their their their the, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they were they, they were the, they were they were the, they were they were they. they were they. they were they. they were they. they. they. the, the US. So what and this is going keep going down keep going down keep going down. What the real story was and correct me if I'm wrong Chris is that they were going to they decided the the final idea that they got was that there was going to be a festival in Cuba a music festival and they were going to they were going to do this big promotion of these college kids going there good hey we're going to send their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. this their. this this big. this big. this this their. their. their. this this this this this this this this this this this their. this their. this this this this big. their. their. their their their. their their their. their. their their. their. their. their is. their is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. This is. their their their their their their their their te. their their their their their their their their their their their their th. t college kids going there. Hey, we're going to send our brightest, most talented musicians to this Cuba Fest. Big press, big, big shots, everything. Put them in the air, land the plane, put another plane up, blow up the plane.

Starting point is 01:07:58 And then blaming it on their fake college students. Yes. They were going to have fake college students or CIA agents acting as these college students on board when they took off. They were going to land that plane secretly and they were going to have the drone aircraft blow up and they were going to say that Cuba shot it down. Now tell me this. I just want to remind people that flight 11 at a Logan airport at 9-11 to this day they say that flight 11 at a Logan airport at 9-11 to this day they say that that plane

Starting point is 01:08:26 alone and I'm not talking about 175 that also left from Logan and hit the South Tower. I'm not talking about that one but flight 11 alone they say took off from gate 26 and 32 and they have not explained why to this day they don't pick one as the actual one so was that this day they don't pick one as the actual one. So was that a Northwoods type tactic? I don't know. Okay, pin that because that's interesting me. I want to follow up on that. I just want to in this poem trying to make. So they're going to, you're big, hey, everybody, look at us. This is great.

Starting point is 01:09:01 Going to put you on a plane a plane a plane, and then all of a sudden it blows up. Please tell me how that doesn't sound exactly like the fucking chelgur explosion. What do they do with those people? They don't put them on? I mean, you're saying that they put another one up, but what happens to this people? Oh, actually. So like that one did that one They did. They did. Yeah. They did have people on that. Kind of like 9-11, your theory on 9-11, how there's no one on the plane?

Starting point is 01:09:30 Uh, we'll get into that, but... See, I don't think there's any reason for them not to put people on the plane, because they, those lives are meaningless to the people they're there's, you know, that to me is like why, when he talks about putting CIA students who acting like students on plane landing it, then why are they landing it? Why in their own documents are they landing the plane? Why don't they just blow the plane up? Yeah. There's something about they don't kill their own. I don't know what that is, but they tend not to kill their own. I don't know why. Because maybe they don't want to get killed. For some reason, some reason, they don't do that. That story of Operation Northwood is the exact same story of the challenger.

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Starting point is 01:12:51 It's the guy's head. It's his shiny hair, dude. It's interesting. But it was grainy back in the 90s, so it would be easy to make easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy easy. It. It. It. It. It. It. It would be easy. It would be easy. It would be easy. It would be easy. It would be easy. It would be easy. It's easy. It would be easy to make easy to make easy to make easy to make. It would be easy to make. It would be easy to make. It would be easy to make. It. It. It would be easy to make. It would to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It's a to make. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy to make. It's easy to make. It's easy to make. It's easy to make. It's easy to make. It's easy to make. It's easy to to to to to to to to to make to make to make to make to make to get Peter Jackson on this. Clean this thing up. So let's get into your theory that you just talked about on 9-11. Go through that again. Well, to this day, they claim that Flight 11 at a Logan airport in Boston took off from gates, from gate 26 and 32. And they actually have a little memorial plaques at both the last time I checked. And that was a couple of years ago so that might be different now but if you look it up, the reporting is either 32 or 26 when you look at old articles and you go on the way back machine even.

Starting point is 01:13:39 So that that was a thing and it just made me think that when those transponders went off for 175 and Flight 117, it was right around the time they said they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they said they said they said they said they said they said they said me think that when those transponders went off for 175 and Flight 11, it was right around the time they said that they almost collided with each other in mid-air. And it was right above an Air Force installation in upstate New York. It was close to that power plant too. They kept asking like, why didn't they just dive the plane into the power plant? because then they would have had a nuclear, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, was, was, that, that, was, that, that, that, that, that, thi. the plane into the power plant because then they would have had a nuclear, you know, radiation meltdown or whatever and would have destroyed a lot more lives and things like that. That was a valid question, but the transponderers went off right around the area that they most likely could have landed both the planes that took off from Logan and put up the drones kind of like

Starting point is 01:14:26 the Northwoods document where they will replace them and a lot of people say that flight 175 when they saw it it looked like a big gray plane. I agree with this. I think they landed them. Yeah that's what a lot of people think. I think I think they landed them and then they put more up and like that that's how you you you you you you you you you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the a that. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the the th. I the the th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the a the a th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. te. te. te. te. try. te. try. try. try. th. the. the. the. th. th. th landed them and then he put more up and like that that's how you explain How that aviation feat was done. It was done manually by basically a drone Yeah, what do you mean? They were gun there were guns on these planes too by the way remote the gallon pointed that out. Yeah because pilots say that that's a tough thing to do like in general. So what to fly into a building they've been doing that at that speed all that time and then hit it especially what especially the Pentagon one like how it landed like that that's another one that for sure

Starting point is 01:15:11 it's a drone well because that was a missile yeah it's so obvious that the missile it's so obvious that they have the cartoon cut out of an it's ridiculous the missile it's ridiculous I mean the the the the the th the th I the th th th th the th th th th the th the th the th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. the thousa's thus. the thousand thousand the thousand the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is is is is is is is is is the the th. the th. th. th. th. It's th. It's thus. It's thus. It's the. It's the. It's the. ty. ty. te. te. te. te. te. te. But it's obvious that they have the cartoon cut out of an airplane on the outside of both buildings? These planes were aluminum. They're penetrating steel, but they're going to look like Wiley. Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. That's so funny. And there was actually, there was a whole project with a their their the B thing I think now a gelatin or whatever Oh snap someone's getting a dangerous places yeah they were right in taking up space right before 9-11 what's that bird strikes what are you up the bird strikes

Starting point is 01:15:54 yeah that's if it gets hit by bird and he getting it right curious that the nose cone went out the other side too and that's what a bird does to it yeah look there's the bird sturits that's the the the And that's what a bird does to it. Yeah look there's the bird stuck in there. That's the thing that pilots are most scared of is bird strike. Oh well that was a whole thing top gun. Bird strike! Bird strike! These ones penetrated steel these aluminum planes and the nose coins went out the other side even. Yeah I mean nobody wants to talk about, you know, it's so hilarious when you watch the- I'm not saying a hologram either, Sam. I'm just saying it's weird.

Starting point is 01:16:28 I don't, I think it's drones, and it's possible it could be holograms. I won 100% and you even have Richard Grove going on places and alluding to it, that, you know, the company that ran, the company that installed the elevators into the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the building the the the the the, the company that ran the, the company that installed the elevators into the building was not the first one's out too. They last. Was not the company that was working on the elevators. So it was a different company. Yeah, I think the most likely thing is that it was a plane just like any other plane. People got aboard it. And then they used this, this drone technology, the auto pilot technology, you know the remote piloting technology to just take control of the plane from whoever was piloting it and then just float right into the buildings.

Starting point is 01:17:14 And all those people do I think they just, when I look at Operation. I just, when I look at operation North, when, the operation, the operation, the operation, the operation, the operation, the operation, the operation, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, is, their, is, is, is, is, is, their, is, is, their, is, is, their, is, is, their their, the the the the the the the the the plane and put a bigger plane. Yeah, you don't think they've evolved that plan though since the 60s. I don't think, Johnny, I know that makes, that sounds logical to you. I don't think these people are creative. I just really don't. Like, I don't think they can think like the phone calls. Instantly, you know, you can't make a phone call on a p- point of it to announce that in a few years later they'll have the ability to make those phone calls. They know said after the 9-11 stories came out. So you're telling me, have you ever watched black chicks fight on a plane? They fight for no reason. Are you telling me a bunch of adults are just gonna sit there and let box cutter people take over a plan. I'm sorry dude. It just they don't want you to believe your logic and your emotional

Starting point is 01:18:11 experiences in this life that a bunch of dudes so I was watching this video the other day right and this crazy guy this crazy tweaked out cracked out Mexican is throwing rocks passing cars and hitting this side of this bus over and over again for some reason the guy opens up the door and the the crackhead walks in and then he instantly gets thrown out everyone comes out of bus and just continues to beat the shit on this dude. Are you telling me an entire plane is going to sit there and allow guys with box cutters to run shit? I mean are you fucking for real?

Starting point is 01:18:52 Where's the logic? It doesn't exist. It's not real. At some point you realize your life is on the line and it's better to get stabbed and just help people get this guy than to sit there and let a plane get flown in. And call and make a phone call. I'm gonna put down the phone we're gonna go kill and handle this shit. The only only just to play devil's advocate the only thing I can think is that up to that point hadn't a lot of hijacking has been for like money and things like I mean so maybe people tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th th so the the to try try try try to try to to try to the to the they they they they they they they they they they know, we're just going to get through this. We're going to return to the airport until you got the Israelis who get killed and like, dude. Now, now I think you're 100% right.

Starting point is 01:19:30 Like if they try to do that now, every, it did be the Jiu-Jitsu dude, there's somebody who knows Jiu-Ju-Ju them my bone you know what I mean I disagree I think but the let's roll the let's roll thing Sam I that's all in that story is just the play the let's roll thing was put out there by Larry Ellison one of the richest people on the planet the today the today the the the the their their their their their their their their their told told told told told told told their told told. their their Oracle, which apparently was a CIA front company. And, Oh, really, Oracle was? Look where they put their money. Yes. Look where Allison is. Dave McGowan wrote about that.

Starting point is 01:20:11 And it was a part of also the proposal with Bush to get everyone to have national ID cards that kind of got pooed after the fact. But that was that was in the works as well. And Oracle and Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry Larry. that was that was that was that. that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was. that was. that was. that was. the the the that was. that was. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. I. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. th. the. the. the. the. the works as well. And Oracle and Larry Ellison was the one that was talking about it before even Lisa Beamer knew, like his Widdle, a Todd Beamer's widow knew about the let's roll story. So that's always been questionable too. That's so interesting, bro. Let's get into some other stuff. You know, obviously, Columbine, all these shoothings. We have, Behold the Paleo. That's, the pale, the pale, the pale, the pale, the pale, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the the the the the the thea, the the theamer, the, the, the. know, obviously, you know, Columbine, all these shooting, we

Starting point is 01:20:48 have Behold a Pale Horse, that, that Columbine, that's, Sam, have you ever really looked into Colombine? I have, but I would like to do a deep dive with you. Obviously, you know, we start to know someone that saw the, there was an adult shooter that looked like he was in the military. He had spiky hair and he was with Klebold at one point. Their name is Jen Small. I actually, the first episode of my podcast, getting at Chris Graves, was with Jen. And she actually talked about how this guy, it almost seemed like he was a handler of some sort.

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Starting point is 01:22:05 It's always two or three shooters at first too. And then besides Carl might, it usually gets down to the one lone nut, Patsy type, because if you got the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin, people said there were four guys in military fatakes that actually shot. No, with that shooting out here too? What was the name of the shooting? San Bernardino? You watch live, right? Yeah. Watching real time. Yeah.

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Starting point is 01:23:03 I forget exactly which one, but she questioned whether or not, you know, Wayne Harris, who was in special, you know, special projects in the Navy and everything. Wayne Harris was into some weird stuff too, like in the military. She questioned whether or not, Eric and Wayne had some kind of influence on Dylan and I know it's a grieving mother that might not want to you know go into you might not want to

Starting point is 01:23:30 accept that her son could have been a killer you know that's always possible but she did bring up the fact that Wayne Harris had brainwashing manuals in their house so she pointed that out. Also there was a weird bizarre military presence at a Columbine. I don't know if you had ever heard this this you you you you you you you you you th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. you know to to you know to to to to to go you know to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go that that that that that that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that might that that that that that that that that that that that that to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I to the. to to to to to the. to the. I might not to to thi th out. Also there was a weird bizarre military presence at a Columbine. I don't know if you had ever heard this Sam but I saw pictures from this footage but there were a lot of people that claimed to have seen helicopter footage on the day of a NATO truck parked right out in front of Columbine right in the beginning of the massacre. Big blue van at NATO and it had the shield with the star and everything. I would say that though.

Starting point is 01:24:11 Why would they, you know, why would they come to a marked vehicle? Well that's the thing that I can't, I can't understand that to this day, but at the same time, Flayton had ordered the thing with Kosovo at the same week around that that that th...... And th. And the thing Kosovo at the same week around that time. And if you look at Gladio, Operation Gladio, the 60s, right after World War II, that was basically to have fake terrorist attacks and blame the communists, NATO was all involved in that. And some people think that Columbine and elements of 9-11 and Virginia Tech and all that was a possible

Starting point is 01:24:48 Ogladio part, like part two or a plan B type thing for America. Because NATO is not supposed to be operational within the United States, kind of like the CIA actually. But the idea that there was a possible, I've seen footage and it could have been fake, I've seen the steals from the the the the the the the the the the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the footage the the the ththat there was a possible, I've seen footage and it could have been fake, I've seen the steals from the footage and that website has long disappeared too, but why would there be a NATO truck right out front? Because there were a, it was just a regular school shooting, we were told. But why was that one like so special that it had, it became like the 9-11 of all these school shootings? They were shooting before them their their their their their their... And their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I was, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, th. I, th. I. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the th. the the the th. the th. It's, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the the the the the the the th. the it became like the 9-11 of all these school shootings. They were shooting before them and way after,

Starting point is 01:25:26 but Columbine has always mentioned as like the be all end all of school shootings. Sandy Hooks for some reason is this sacred? That replaced it, but that has the Twilight Zone element too, where you got people laughing and there's like, I have my own theories on that where I think some of this footage was left was put out on the air I think kids died there I think it's a different type of false flag oh you don't think I died in Columbine no column I think was like an old for lack of a better term an old

Starting point is 01:25:58 school classic false flag but I think with Sandy Hook what's that mean what I think people did die because you didn't have parents sitting there giving press conferences, you know, hours later about their dead children, like you had at Sandy Hook. People gave press conferences less than 24 hours later. And then you got other people corners like laughing on the footage. You got parents laughing on the footage. You didn't have anyone laughing at columnine, like any, no family's wanted any cameras near their faces during that. That's what I mean by an old school false flag.

Starting point is 01:26:33 What I'm saying, now we have like this weird twilight zone element added to these events where now it's like a pizza gate, Sandy Hook thing where it becomes a lightning rod where you're not allowed to even ask anything about it or you're like you're a hoaxer now, not even a truth or anymore. Now you're just saying everything's a- How deep have you gone into it? I think it was- I- My question is how much research have you done in the Sani Hook? Sandy Hood? Okay, my question is, have you ever heard the theory that everybody's house mortgage? You know, on the Christmas Day, they were all given free houses. Is that true? I can't find that those documents anymore, but they were online at one point. Yeah. So based on what you used to see, do you think that was true? I'm not, I don't, I don't know what to make of that because... I talked th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that, that, that, I that, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Do th. Do th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. tho. tho. thooooooooooooooooo. Are. Are theeeeeeeea. th. th. the. th that because I've talked to people that have worked in real estate and they say it doesn't work like that.

Starting point is 01:27:30 Like you can't do that on Christmas Day. And you pay off a long time to clear and everything. Yeah. Well, I mean, you can't do it, but you know, certain people are sure could do it. But they had that guy walking how big and everything. Yeah, I don't know, he got, he got taken, he'd been through the ringer and everything. I was able to get one of his ex-lawers, this lady, I can't remember her name, but I got it for Donald Jeffrey's, I protest show.

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Starting point is 01:29:23 of dealing with that. I'm just saying being in a suit and tie and holding a press conference, that's just not normal behavior. Not that these things are normal in general, but nothing like with Columbine. You didn't have people giving press conferences for giving the shooter, even for killing their kid. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, I think a lot of this weird footage and there's a lot of it, people walking in circles outside the firehouse over and over again,

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Starting point is 01:36:20 before. And he admitted when he was asked that none of the parents were in contact with their their children did children at all and they had to be you know identified through Polaroids so who who was lying here and that was kind of the basis they said Owen Troyer had asked that question and that was the basis for the whole that defamation lawsuit at least are you saying that that was an opportunity, they had an opportunity to really kind of dive a little deep? Throw it out.

Starting point is 01:36:49 Or I'm not a lawyer, but if you're showing that, Owen Schwerer is asking a question, well, is it one of the others, the coroner full of crap, or is the father who's talking to Megan Kelly, is he full a a full of... apparently he couldn't have been holding his dead son in his arms with a ball If what the official coroner Wayne Carver said was true that none of the parents had any contact Through dead children and Polaroid said it be used. So which one is it because if the old Alex Jones Where about I motioned to dismiss or what else?

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Starting point is 01:37:48 Are they was to get people afraid of being able to ask questions of things that don't make sense and they're logical. All of this is. All of this. January 6th was set up so that you can't even protest anymore. I I January. even protest anymore. I mean look at January 6th, look what done to Alex Jones, it was done to Kanye West, they're telling you don't question these things, don't question those things, don't do any of that, that's what this is all about,

Starting point is 01:38:14 you know, and I think people are starting to wake up to it. I think people are starting to really understand that like dude this is all a war on your mind and on your spirit and it's just like and I think they're losing and like you know the whole question is are strong men not standing up is that where we're at right now? We as strong men should what should we do? I don't have the answer. I mean, I don't think anyone does, Sam. In America, standing up to who, I mean, what would standing up look like? That's my question.

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Starting point is 01:40:30 Yeah, we get him weird time, brother. I hope you're not right about that. About why? That's my greatest hope that that's not going to come to pass. No, yeah, the, this is parsing. I hope that's not, I mean, so far it's all, it's that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. the. It's, it's. It's, it's. It's. It's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's the. It's the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's the sparsing. I mean I hope that's not. I mean so far it's all been accurate. I know, I know, I just, I might, it's my, it's my, I mean like, so, what do you mean? What do you think in a year in six months? I mean, I, I think what they're going to do is gonna throw all this, everything going on? It's gonna throw his dead carcass on the side of the road and they're gonna say what what do you mean with the deaths They're gonna blame everything on them the Ukraine shit the COVID shit the corruption shit Everything's gonna be blamed on Joe Biden and his hand is in a lot of it. They're gonna blame all that try to get a new slate with camel tow So like they were gonna blame Fauci in the simulation?

Starting point is 01:41:27 No, no, the Fauci is gonna take it too. Fauci, Biden, and possibly Donald Trump will be another person. They'll throw under the bus, they'll discard all those guys as just roadkill, and a new new new monsters will show up but I see him did you actually believe a little bit of the Q. thing with the John F. Kennedy Jr. thing because I never believed that okay cool I never believed that to John junior's death and there was a lot there too but I never believe that he was going to show up well the the theory was that John junior faked his death and that him he him thru the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the the the the the gonna show on there. Well, the, uh, the theory was that, uh, John Jr.

Starting point is 01:42:07 It's, uh, faked his death. And that him and Trump were working by in the scenes and he was actually Q. And everything when I actually looked into. I looked into John Jr's death and he was blown out of the sky. Like he didn't crash the plane. Yeah. Okay, you you you you you that you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was blown. that was that was that was that was that was that was th. th. th. th. th. that was th. th. th. that was that was th. th. that was that was th. th. that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was th. that was thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th. that was, you can't just say that. He's not Q. I never bought into that either.

Starting point is 01:42:28 I thought that was an op from the beginning too. Much like Trump, he has a puppet, you know? Go on. It was supposed to be him? Wasn't it supposed to be him that was always behind Trump at the rallies? Yeah, that guy there said, I mean, JFK Jr. is one of the best-looking guys ever in politics. And look at this guy right here they're saying it's JFK Jr. Get real.

Starting point is 01:42:48 He's old. Yeah. But it would only be 20 years because that was July of 99 when he was taken out. That'd be like almost 25 years, but 24 years, yeah. So tell me your thoughts on JFK. Break that down. John Jr. apparently his, the closest people around him said that he was getting ready to run for office, whether it was for the New York Senate seats that Hillary eventually took or some people also think. There's like two camps. There's like the other camp is that George Popi Bush and George W. took out John Jr's plane because apparently. They were. There. T. the the. the. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. There. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the closest. the. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the closest. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, Poppy Bush and George W. took out John Jr.'s plane because apparently they were seen near the hangar in New Jersey where John Jr.'s plane was being stored.

Starting point is 01:43:34 And there were three witnesses that saw an explosion in the sky in Martha's vineyard right around the time that they said John's plane spiraled out of control because he didn't know what the hell he was doing or whatever. But there were three witnesses that myself and Donald Jeffries and other researchers in the past who have tried to find these, these witnesses, including a Martha's Vineyard Gazette reporter that talked to a Channel 5 reporter, Steve Spraziya, about how he saw the explosion in the sky. He hasn't been seen ever since. And there was a wedding guest that was supposed to be a Rory Kennedy's wedding.

Starting point is 01:44:13 That was the whole reason why John was flying there that weekend. They saw an explosion in the sky too. And there was a guy that probably saw it, and he was a lawyer, so he was kind of smart. He just said he heard it. Guy named Victor Priy Bannock, I think. He said he heard an explosion around that area at the time that John's plane went down. And Bill Cooper was able to save a lot of that news footage from Channel 5,

Starting point is 01:44:39 because they actually cut out six hours of their archive in New Hampshire that had any reference to the explosion in the sky and the radio report, the report that Susan Warnock and Todd Bergen of the Coast Guard set on air that John Jr. radioed the tower at Martha's Vineyard Airport and said he was awaiting landing instructions. And that story got wiped away and it got replaced with John he was so inexperienced or he was a daredevil and that the weather was terrible that night it was a huge haze and originally that was not the case at all you see the the older footage so I believe he was taken out

Starting point is 01:45:19 myself as well so yeah I think also if he had ran for president as an independent like a lot of people think he was about to announce He would have beat George W and he would have be Al Gore no problem, and it would have been a little harder pull off something like a 9-11. Oh, dude 9-11 was they they stole the election to get Dick Cheney into the White House. That was 62. It's right. Yeah get Dick Cheney into the White House. That was 62. It's right. Yeah, Dick Cheney. That's right. Crazy.

Starting point is 01:45:49 Disgusting. So yeah, they took him out and we've been worse for it. So I've always said this and now ended on this. That Q was most likely intelligence, but Q did a lot of damage in my humble opinion. And maybe the stuff is that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's that's right. that Q. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the they. they. the they. the the they. they. that's right. that's right. that's. the that's. dividing us more maybe that's it but all the stuff coming out right now everybody who file Q knows all about all of it and so I personally think they miscalculated how people react to stuff and they don't realize that the conservatives are the right in my humble opinion they don't they don't go down and burn shit you know right they go down and what they do do they do is they pull the right, in my humble opinion, they don't go down and burn shit.

Starting point is 01:46:26 You know, they go down and what they do is they pull their energy, their money and their time out of everything and their attention. And they circle the wagons. And it's only until she gets really crazy on their doorstop, then they show up with guns. And that's what happened in, well, it's Asians, but the Roddy King trial, I mean riots, and that's what happened in Canoga with Kenosha, with Kyle Rhinhaus, like protecting two Indians,

Starting point is 01:46:59 use car thing. It happened in Beverly Hills, or where was it, where was those two white people that were standing outside with the guns? That was, but the, but, but, but, but, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's their their their their, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, their....... And, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their they. their they. they. they. they. their they. their their their their they. their they. they. they. the where was it? What was those two white people that were standing outside with their guns? Yeah, that was in I think Kentucky I thought but yeah that's what happens. That's the way it goes. All all right. So hey man this was great dude this is great. Well you guys are awesome. Thank you. Great podcast we covered all of it. All of it. Um, can you once again tell them where they can find you?

Starting point is 01:47:28 Any social media websites and your project? Well, if I'm not still shadow band because of my operation Northwoods episode of Digging Chris Graves, which live streams to Twitter and then later on Ron goes on to Bitschute and Odyssey and Rumble. I'm at at Sea Graves Mass Guy, GUI. And I also, every Thursday at 10 a.m. I'm on a live stream for the new Prisoners' Podcast. And I get mad on the O'Celly Network, get mad with Chris Graves is, it's going to be from now on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday

Starting point is 01:48:06 at 6 PM Eastern Standard Time. You guys are fantastic and thank you for having me. You're a hustler baby, I just want you to know. You did great, Chris, thank you guys so much. Chris, thanks again, this is great. Again, if you want to see me live, going to be in, gonna be in Fink's Arizona this week. Next week, next week with my boy, my good friend,

Starting point is 01:48:32 XG and Eddie Bravo, we'll have Harvel's Long Beach, and then Bakersfield on Saturday. We're gonna let Chris go, then I want to tell you some of the stuff we're working on. Chris, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, then I want to tell you some of the stuff we're working on. Chris, thanks for coming on. We really do appreciate it. Give me an email. I'll get your email and I'll email you will exchange some information. I want to talk to you a little more so thanks. Thanks.

Starting point is 01:48:52 Thanks. Thanks, I'm gonna try. I don't know. Yeah, I even have friends coming after me now, so it's kind of crazy. Thank you, buddy. Good talking to you, yeah. Take care Chris. It's a pleasure. Bye-bye. So guys, if you go to Sam Tripoli.com, again, you'll get all the all the great stuff going. I'll go down. I want to talk about everything on the website. A lot I'm doing for you guys. I got I got two shows on there now. I have Tim Fall Hat I'm doing a lot AMAs on there and some more up-to-date

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