Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #644: the Technocratic State, Fluoride And The Utah Satanic Ritual Sexual Abuse Scandal With Derrick Broze

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome back Independent Journalist and Author Derrick Broze to discuss the newest edition of his book "How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State", his research into Fluoride and the insanely dark scandal of satanic ritual abuse in Utah. This episode gets pretty dark at the end so buckle up! Thank you for your support. Want To See Sam Tripoli Live? 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Opt out of the Technocratic State. I'm very excited. Please welcome Derek Brose. How are you, Derek? Hey, I'm doing good, brother. Thanks for having me back. It's been a little while. Glad to have you back.

Always a pleasure to talk to you. I think you're doing. I think you got mad at me for a moment because maybe I misunderstood one of your tweets, but I'm glad we could be back together singing kumbaya on the show. For our friends, for our listeners who may not be familiar with your last appearance and some of the work you've been doing. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where they can find you? Yeah, thanks for that brother. And I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to to be, to to be, to be to to to be, to to be to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to me me, to me, but, but to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their, but, but, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, thea. today, today, to be to be. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where they can find you? Yeah, thanks for that brother. And I wasn't mad. I was I was just sharing my my side story. Perfect. But yeah, my name is Derek Broze. People can find me at the conscious resistance. that's my main hub for all my content. I mean, I've been a journalist and activist, documentary filmmaker, public speaker, wearing various hats for last 13 years. I put out podcast, video reports, interviews, documentaries, books, like I said, do public

speaking. My most of my work, the last few years, has been focused on trying to get people to think about how to get out of the systems, how to prepare for what's coming in a solutions focused way, not just talking about all the scary shit. And then, yeah, through my journalismism to to to to to to to tholk, And then yeah, through my journalism, trying to point at and poke holes in the scary shit. So I try to, I feel like I have a two-fold strategy of using journalism to educate, empower, get people thinking, and then through my journalism, or through my activism, my books and talks and such, try to inspire people to think of solutions for those problems.

Well we're on your website right now it's really awesome, beautiful website and I see you have Catherine Austin Fitz, is that her name? I've been dying get her on the show. Some people won't come on the show because of the name. They think we're like crazy people who live with our parents and nothing if you live your parents good for you. But like we in some kind of basement and we just drink Milwaukee's best and just talk smack like I would love to have her on but congratulations on that I love everything you're doing you talk to talk you

walk to walk and I think that's very important I also want to ask you that you know do you think we could save anybody or should we just save ourselves, meaning that we lead by example? I think there's a lot of people out there, and I think I could have been a victim of this as well when I first started really waking up to everything, that I, like like I think maybe I want a little bit a blunt force trauma on people with you know being Paul Rivera yelling about the lizard people are coming and maybe at this point right now I kind of realize that that's kind of a waste of time what your thoughts on all that

yeah I've definitely had my personal kind of thoughts and reflection on that over the years because in what you're describing like that blunt force trauma. I feel like that's what a lot of us do in the beginning. You first wake up, you have like a freak out moment of whatever it is the screen that I meet and I gotta go pass all DVDs and fire. And I really, good way, and I look back, Mike, wasting my time or whatever, but I still do try to balance that. Like, I do think leading by example is the best the ultimate, the only thing we can do. I mean, that's why I've, you know, you talk about walking the walk, talking to talk,

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Q&ON stuff or they can be sucked into blackpilled, everything's pointless, there's no point in trying. They can get sucked into false solutions, you know. And so it's sometimes helpful to have to have to better information and to solutions and things like that. I love that and I think that's very important. I tell you man, if I just become a straight black pill person, I'm just not going to do the show anymore. I just won't do it. I am a spiritual man. And you know, I'm constantly on a journey of what that means and learning more and more and And you know loving you know all these these star seeds have been sent to help us and you know the teachings of Jesus and then the you know Buddha and all these people learning a little bit

Keeping what I like, you know kind of a Bruce Lee approach to everything. And I believe in light and I believe in dark. I believe there is light entities, dark entities, and I believe that there's a war for our mind. And if they were winning, and this is a really great thing, and I'm sure this isn't the first person to say this, but if they were winning and it was inevitable, they wouldn't need all this propaganda all the time, 24-7, constantly in your face of doom and gloom and that they're running everything, my whole theory on these balloons and UFOs is this is 100% them trying to us usher in their project Blue Beam or get us okay with World War 3 and because this is again manifestation they have to get us to manifest

that we are lost, have no hope and they have to save us and they're constantly in a battle list and I think like people like yourself and what you're doing and to this show to an extent is is winning because I just don't see people falling for a lot of stuff going on. I do believe the Ukraine war is the one of the greatest attempts at nope we're doing this and people being like we don't want this and I think we would have been deep in the World War III by now if they had total control and

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how are these how is the slowest moving thing in the air a balloon just making its way through the most fortified airspace on planet or plane earth how is that how does that happen how do how do it makes any sense yeah how do four planes three planes on 9-11 just just do just that happen? How does that happen? How do how to make any sense? Yeah, how do four planes, three planes on 9-11, on 9-11 just do just wheelies in the air and nobody knows where the fuck they are. But that's what it reminds me of 9-11, it makes me think of 9-11, like, oh, all of a sudden, on this day we just somehow couldn't protect the airspace. And whoops all of a sudden, the balloon just showed up. We didn't, you know, it just seems to, like you were saying, Sam, whether it's like perpetuating the stereotype of like, oh, the US and China are about to go to World War III,

which I tend to be skeptical of those kinds of claims. I feel like at the very top, you know, these people are chilling and hanging out together. maybe not at the presidential the presidential the presidential the presidential the presidential. the presidential. the presidential. the presidential. the president. the president. the president. the president. the president. the president. the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the president, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they're fighting some war but the people who control them you know it's they usually are either ramping up war because it they want people to be afraid they want people spending money they want to keep us in a state of a balance it just doesn't something about this all these different situations the last week doesn't seem to be on the surface what they're telling us which I think is kind of obvious but where it's going I don't know I mean I it I it I't Blue Beam yesterday, I had Blue Beam at the Super Bowl and I was wrong, so we'll see where it goes next. Yeah, Blue Beam on your bingo card, you thought you were about to win and didn't show up.

All you got was pregnant, Rihanna, and you know, so you're, so, and it's just, again, and this is on the heels of what we all knew all was that the US and the British bomb that pipeline. We all knew they did it. We were telling you we did it, and we don't say this. We're like, yeah, we're right again. It's kind of boring at this point to be right all the time. And yes, we get tiny little things here wrong because we're speculating and no one is a 100% psychic that bats a thousand, okay? You're gonna get little things here and they're wrong mostly because they're setting honeypots for us to look bad. That's their only real way to combat what

conspiracy theirs are doing, which is analyzing the data over decades, if not centuries, and predicting based on that data what the next move is. And the best way to do that is for the counter that is to take that data and manipulate the outcome of that data so that these people look so that people look so that people like us look stupid and we know that the sheep we don't care if we get a thousand tho thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous thous know that the sheep, we don't care if we get a thousand right in a row, the minute we get one wrong, that's what they're going to hang their head on forever. And they know how these people want to act to it. So do you have any thoughts on the, I want to get into your book after this, but do you have any thoughts on the, on what the pipeline represents to you?

Yeah, for one, I want to say that Seymour Hirsch, this is his bio, he's my favorite still living journalist. I encourage everybody to read this. It's called Reporter. And for anybody has an interest in like learning about journalism in a way that doesn't even exist anymore because he started out as a journalist when he was like in the 1950s. This dude is one of the last living real old school investee of journalists who's tracking people down who has government sources and uh and legit sources and because he has done enough work that the mainstream can't deny they give him the credit and the respect he deserves. You know he was he was the first person to expose the violence in Vietnam the mainstream can't deny. They give him the credit and the respect he deserves. You know, he was the first person to expose the violence in Vietnam, the MyLay massacre. He was one of the first journalists to publicly call out the weapons of mass destruction and

the lies about that. And so they give him credit for that. He won prizes and all that. But now they sort of approachtotally just discount him or debunk him, so they just try to ignore him. Like, he's said before that most, he can't get published in America anymore. He typically publishes his investigations now in like the London review of books, like some really, like, some known in maybe academic circles, but not really known the mainstream because he can't get published in the US and he publicly was one of the only mainstream journalists calling out the Syria false flag gas attacks a couple years ago.

He also spoke about Seth Rich and you know his role in the DNC hit leaks and all that kind of stuff. So he's a real old school journalist and he actually published this investigation on Substack he joined and announced he was joining substack and in the next day he published his investigation about investigation. the investigation the investigation this investigation on substack he joined and announced he was joining substack and in the next day he published his investigation about Nord Stream and I don't know you know besides the story itself I just love reading him right because even in his announcement of him joining substack he was kind of just he's just like a he's 84 so he probably doesn't give a fuck anymore and he's just like I'd never felt good rubbing elbows with the elite at the political gala and the parties and the dinners I'd rather be

down by the shipyard you know talking to some sailor drinking whiskey and like rubbing elbows with the first year interns to get information out of them like he you know he knows how to do real work and so the fact that he chose to put together this really solid investigation and saying hey the sources sources. the sources. the source. the so so so so. the the the the the the the the the the the, hey, the sources I have confirmed this was a U.S. job, which is, like you said, we kind of already suspected based on statements from Biden and from other U.S. government officials. But as expected, like, the mainstream has pretty much ignored his report. I think you could maybe find a reference to it on CNN and maybe some of the other mainstream cable news in New York Times.

But if they said anything, the the the the say that he was wrong basically and that there's no evidence of this. And again, just to dismiss him as like, kind of pat him on the head, like he used to be a good credible journalist, now he's gone a little bit of a stray, because he just doesn't care any more about trying to tow the line and he's just going to report what he's....... And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he's just, he's just, he's just, he. And he's just, he's, to report, to report, the to report, to report, the they. And, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just. And he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And he's. And, he's. And, he's. And, he's. And, he's. And, he's. And, he's. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he. And, he's just. And, he's just. And he's just just just. And he's just just just just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just just to. And he's just to to to annoys the hell out of me about this pipeline story the Russia gate the Twitter files and so many other things is just because the US and a lot of the world is so divided now the people who really need to read these stories so that they can have a moment of like oh shit maybe I was lied to before maybe the the the the, the, to. the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the, the, the, the, th. I, the, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I was, th. I, the, the, the, the, the, is, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is is, is is. is is is. is. is. is. is. is. is. I is. I is. I is. I is. I is. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. the the to. the the News or MSNBC or CNN is telling me. Those kind of people, for the most part, have already made up their minds. You know what I mean?

Like, they're not gonna go read. A lot of people don't like to challenge themselves. They don't wanna go read something, especially if it's a long 24,000 word investigation. That's going to debunk. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. thoomomunk. th. thoomunk. thoom, thoom, thoom, to beaugh. to beaugh. to beaunct. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to bea. to be. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. to our circles. We get in our own little biases, our bubbles of this is what I believe, this is what I know. I'm not going to hear from the other side anymore, right? So it's frustrating for me trying to, like, who is a person that will read and watch the CNN version, the MSNBC version, New York Times, the Washington Post, and then go to indie media and then their in their in in in in in And things are rarely black and white, you know, and they want people to just,

oh, the Twitter files are just a bunch of Russian disinformation, it's a nothing burger, it's just Elon Musk, he's a billionaire, we hate him. Or the Twitter files reveal the ultimate truth about Joe Biden, pay no attention to what they reveal about Donald Trump and his administration's administration administration. And so people just, they pick their little camps and then they stay in there. I feel like unfortunately, even though this Pulitzer Prize winning journalist writing an article about essentially a false flag event should be a mainstream front page news, being debated for weeks at a time, you know, it's not gonna be given the credit it deserves and the respect it deserves.

I agree with everything you just said right there and the danger of that the people who need to hear it aren't going to hear it and it's something we talk about and show all the time people's algorithms lying to them. You know there's a buddy of mine he's one of my favorite comics. Great guy I'm not going to say his name because I don't think it's him. But he's doing a show in LA and there he announced he you have to show you have to show up in a mask and proof of vaccination in 2023 in 2023 and I don't think it's him I think it's the venue and the fact that the venue is still doing that Let you know that they've heard none of these these Pfizer dumps none of these Twitter files None of anything going on in

Washington DC which with this this elaborate production of you of you know perp walking these Twitter execs which they deserve but are they gonna get in trouble are they gonna do any jail time for violating the Constitution joining the government and violating the First Amendment? I mean and Yo well whatever his name is Roth who's like trying to act like he's a victim when he literally was trying to convince everybody that children should be allowed on grinder. Like, that's who was in charge of Twitter safety. And then you got that scumbag, and if I saw this guy, I would unleash on him. That Scott Weiner, who I don't know how you guys keep voting for this guy.

That made it so like, that basically performing anal on a child is no longer automatically a felony. Like we live in this world, this guy just keeps getting and voted into office. Like, it's children, man. It's children. And these guys, you know, so like, these people aren't getting the information. It's not being, their algorithms are lying to them. And we still see it.

We still see people running around with not just one mask on, two mass people on. And we're allowed, we should stop frequency, we should stop going to businesses that are making their employees wear masks. If you want to wear masks, you're an idiot because you're just doing, you might as well a magic feather in your mouth because you're dumbbo. But where you not getting anything, your algorithm is lying to you and it's allowing you not to face the repercussions, repercussions of your actions, which was that you bully people in who are trying to go, hey man, I don't think they're telling you the truth. And you side with power every time.

And you know, Derek, you're totally right about Trump. You're totally right about Trump. Trump violated the First Amendment with his EO, which said that people criticizing Israel could not protest on campuses. And the reason they did that, and we've told you this before, is because these fucking colleges that are woke as fuck are all investing in the military industrial complex and a lot of those weapons are coming from Israeli weapons manufacturers. And they don't want you to know that. And where does the technology come from? are coming from Israeli weapons manufacturers.

And they don't want you to know that. And where does the technology come from? Well, the military uses, obviously from the schools. Well, I mean, from like the Ivy League schools, I'm a Harvard Yale. But it's like they won't allow them the protest, because if that school made a ruling that we're not gonna to invest in anybody that works with Israel, all these military industrial complex companies would be fucked.

Why do you think they're, I know I've said this before, but why do you think they're allowing these college athletes to make money off their likeness? Because it doesn't take any money from all the giant contracts they get from all these, these television companies who are all owned by, it's, it........... It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the giant contracts they get from all these these television companies who are all owned by it's just a it's just a money laundering thing. We're just washing money through this way to this way. It's all the same bro. It's you know the people buying ads on television are the same people who run the television.

It's just a money laundering. Maybe that's not the correct term because it's legal, but they're just washing money, dude. And it's all the same thing. So you're totally 100% correct about the criticizing of Trump. I think, as somebody said this yesterday, you know, Brad Binkley from the propaganda report, he did a show with me on Rock Finn, and he was like, that I am more critical of the politicians I like than the ones I don't like. I hold them to a higher standard because I like them. He's like, I like Trump over Biden.

I'm going to question Trump even more because he's representing who I think is right. So you should question both sides. It's free. And at the end of the day, whether it's a Republican or Democrat, they're deciding the fate of your, you, and your family. Hey guys, if World War III, excuse me, World War III suddenly fucking bus opened, you're two-year-old, your four-year-old, your four-year-old, you're five-year-old, could be affected by the draft, because these world wars don't end in two weeks. They go for a long time. So you better start pushing the fuck back on both sides who aren't open to this and aren't

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So I wrote this book in late 2019 originally and I probably mentioned it on our previous interview, but I published it in 2020, January 2020, so right before COVID happened. And I was writing it in 2019, basically as a journalist and as a researcher who pays attention to digital technology, I was already writing about the threat of facial recognition and digital identities and social credit scores back in about 2016, 2017, and including dealing with dealing with police, cell phone surveillance.

I found out I was under investigation by the Houston police years ago, and that led me to start investigating all these different types of tools from automatic licenses, and theirmal heat detectors, and drones, of course, and all the different tools that the governments and cops have for surveillance.

And I wanted to write a book that the governments and cops have for surveillance. And I wanted to write a book that would give people that information, but more than just being a book, like, hey, here's all the scary things coming, focus on solutions and really more specifically, because my work has focused on opting out over the years, like I talked about not having a bank account and really trying to operate outside of these systems as much as possible and still thrive, not like being, okay, I'm outside of the system and now I'm broke and I'm barely making it, but being able to live a successful happy life but staying unplugged. And I started to wonder, well, is that going to be possible, is that going to be possible?

Is that going to be possible in the world that they're building? You know, this advice I've given people, to their own, their, their, their, their, to, their, to, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, tooomko, too, too, too, too, their, their, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, and, andthe world that they're building where AI is monitoring everything through facial recognition cameras that are connected to databases that can quickly catalog you and tell you where you've been for last decades and find you anywhere in the country like we've seen in India with their digital ID system called Adhar, which is the foundation. They went around a couple years ago with funding from the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation and others. The Indian government went around and scanned the faces and the eyes of the irises of more

than a billion people who live in India. They went to big cities, small towns, villages, and it took years, but they successfully did it and got every single Indian citizen into this system that now, to get, like, to say, to say, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their. And, and their. And, and their, and their, and their, and their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and their....a.a.a..a.a.a.s.s. And, their their their their their their their their today, their today, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tod years, but they successfully did it and got every single Indian citizen into this system that now to get food, to get, like, say, social welfare, to get a bank account, to travel, to do anything, you need this digital ID. And again, more and more people paying attention to Chinese social credit score schemes. So I was paying attention to this stuff back then, and I wanted to write, like, like, like, like, like, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, like, like, you, you, like, like, to, to, to, to, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, and to, to, to, to, to, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to to to to, to, and to, and to, to stay outside of those systems and my work specifically focuses on opting out by using counter-economics or counter-establishment economics underground

counter-economy the parallel economy it is idea of this philosopher Samuel Konkin the third who was like an anarchist activist back in the 60s and 70s. He died in 2004, but he was against voting, he was against violence, and he believed that there was a third path that we could take besides choosing apathy or giving up or being blackpilled, that we could start to exit from the systems by talk taking our money, our finances away from the state and away from the banks and putting it into like local economies... to like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their thi, their thi, their their their theeean, thean, thean, thi. thei. thei. thei. thea, thi, th And over time, he imagined this would be a generational thing. We would start to see people exiting, and over time, mass exodus, the more aggressive the state gets and invasive, like we saw with COVID, people will naturally wanna get away

and look for alternatives. And so he predicted that we would see this happening over generations, to the point where there would become parallel systems, parallel institutions parallel institutions that would directly compete with the governments in different parts of the world. And eventually, you know, there, he imagined there would probably be some conflict between the state and those of us who are trying to build something different. And in his definition of revolution, surviving this attack from the state would be like, okay, we've proved that the people are free. The state is no longer strong enough to control to control to control to control to control the government the government to control the government the government the government to control, the government the government the government the government the government, the government, the government, the government, the government, the government, and the government, and the government, and the government, and the government, in the government, and the government, and, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, in the government, and the government, and the government, and the government, and the government, the government, the government, the government, the government, the the the government, the the the the government, the the the the the the government, the the the thi, thi from the state would be like, okay, we've proved that the people are free. The state is no longer strong enough to control, manipulate us, and maybe the state gets forced into one small territory or something like.

But that's like his big grand vision. Whether or not that's going to come true or not, I don't know. But his work has greatly inspired me over the years because Technocratic State, focuses on this is the new edition. The first edition focused on that and just explaining what is agorism and counter-economics and what is this philosophy about and helping people understand the AI, facial recognition, social credit, all that, and asking, like, how are we going to stay free with this right on the horizon. So when I published in 2020, it pretty much immediately became my most popular book that I've written so far, largely because of COVID, COVID-19 and the COVID-1984 terrorists are like the best players on our team because they got so many

people finally ready to actually focus on solutions. People who maybe have been listening to podcast or watching videos for years but haven't been doing shit about it were all of a sudden like oh I got I'm being locked down I can't travel I'm you know I'm losing my job like I need to figure it look for solutions and my book was one source of solutions so it became really popular and in that time I also did a tour of the United States I did a 60 city day tour to the US and then I did a 60 city, excuse me, 60 day, 27 city tour of the U.S. and then I did another 60 day tour of Mexico doing speaking events and connecting with people and meeting people from all over the world and hearing how people from Canada

left Canada because they weren't going to be allowed to travel and they came to Mexico because there was no shots or quarantine requirements. I met people from Austria, from all, from Australia, from all over the world, who literally picked up everything they owned and sold it and moved, or, you know, ran away in fear, waiting to kind of figure out what was next. And some of these people used the ideas and the text that I promoted in this book. And not only that, we've learned so much. You know, when I wrote this book, we didn't know the term the Great Reset. Of course, COVID-19 haven't happened yet. So many people weren't talking about ideas like technocracy and gender 2030 and sustainable development goals and stuff like that.

So many more people have woken up to that now. And I've also learned a lot through these experiences. So I wrote a brand new introduction and five new chapters to this book that's like a whole new section of post-COVID edition. I left the original book exactly as I wrote it prior to 2020, so somebody who hasn't read it, can read it and absorb it exactly the way I wrote it before COVID, which I think is kind of interesting when you realize these words were written before we saw lockdowns and vaccine mandates and travel restrictions and stuff. And then now the new sections are focused on what have we learned, you know, things that I learned from my own work and my own path, but also stories I heard from other people, ways that they were trying to avoid travel restrictions. So I talk about like climate lockdowns and travel restrictions. As far as I'm concerned, the predator class,

as I call them, they've showed their hand. Theyes, all these kinds of things. It might not be about the next pandemic. It might be a lockdown for the climate as we've heard them talking about. But the point is, I think we've seen at least some of the tactics that we're going to use. And in my mind, if we know they're planning a next pandemic or it'sports or whatever, we shouldn't just sit around and like, oh, that was fucked up, that was crazy. I'm glad we survived, let's just wait for it to happen again. Like, we should probably be planning of, do I wanna, you know, if you live in a place

that was totally a shithole during COVID and locked you down, you weren't allowed to go out, to even walk the book is about, is trying to get people to think about, here's what we learned in case you didn't remember, or maybe you woke up after COVID and you don't even, you never even saw it because you weren't paying attention at the time. So that the first new chapter I have is called COVID-1984,

and it's just the, how all these different things, how we saw them happen, what might be coming, and how we can think about getting out of the banking system, growing on food. And I tried to be as practical as possible because I've realized over the years that people, as much as it sometimes tonoys me, because I figure people have their own intuition and their own brilliant minds. People sometimes literally want a list of steps to take so I tried to be very practical with this

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$20,000 maximum, a bank account. So to me, that's super dangerous. Because that makes it impossible for anybody to gain any wealth to help your children get to a place where they don't have to go through the stuff that you have to go through. But all the while, the elite's children will be getting a running start. And I think that's very scary that we live in a place that that's even possible. Like that you're not like, come on dude, that's so dumb. Why would anyone do that? No, man. This is like real shit. They want to limit your ability to set your children up for the future.

Any thoughts on that, Derek? Yeah. Look that. I haven't seen that specific story. Here we go, Ray, Raiders. Britain's face 20... Get rid of that. That ad go Ray Routers Britain's face 20 get rid of that that ad right there okay British face 20 thousand dollar digital pound cap under Bank of England plan yeah there it is central bank it's all the central bank so the bank of the the the central bank of the UK I'm not surprised I hadn't seen that one so that's just what less than a week ago and they're already saying their plan includes a cap on how much money you can have but then how do you buy shit like how do you buy a Ferrari no like illustrate to illustrate to everybody

now there's no Ferrari's in this future man it's yeah dog but there's definitely gonna be a lead to be driving Hondas, even the elite. I'm pretty sure they're still going to be something. It doesn't apply to them. That's a signal to people that it's bullshit. Like that's that should be anytime you see things like that. So for example, when they want to talk about, like a lot of this, the people who are the experts, the technologists, the elite, they should micromanage every aspect of society. They're going to have AI and computers that can tell them how much food you should get

over here and how much food people in China should get. And it's going to be this really micromanaged, perfectly ran system by AI that they promise will work out wonderfully for everybody. It's going to be equitable, and to work, to work, to work, to work, to work, to work, to work, thiii, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, and thi, and thi, and their, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and their, and their, thi, and thi, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their and their and their and their and their and their and their and their, and their and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their thi., thr.i.I. I'm throwne. I'm throoooooooooooooooooooooooomome., the. And, the. And, thi all that kind of stuff. And if, you know, there's unfortunately a lot of good people, probably people that we all know who have been swept up and who generally believe, like, oh yeah, the United Nations is an institution that does good, even if they don't know shit about its history, they just, that's what they've been taught. And so when people hear these ideas and talk of that, they're their. imagine they're thinking that like yeah we're all going to be on level player playing ground like you're asking no they're not imagining that

they're still gonna be an elite there right because who's gonna run those systems and who's gonna micromanage it to make sure it keeps going and the other thing is if it was a serious attempt at fixing the climate or preventing pandemic X or trying to US military being the biggest polluter or why wouldn't they talk about other really obvious solutions that you could fix like toxic waste dumps trying to figure that out. No instead it's like no you're using you're eating too much hamburgers you're using too much plastic so their solutions always focus on the individual. It's never about like what these giant institutions are doing. It's like no attention to them. The corporations. T, they they they they they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're. their. they're. they're they're their. their. their. they're their th. their th. thi. thi. thi. thi. tha. try. try. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to, they're going to do green investments. They'll be good. They'll get carbon credits. But you, you can only drive this many hours a week or whatever, you know, this carbon allowance. That's definitely a big part of where this is going. So it's going to go digital IDs. It's going to go digital currencies. It's going to go with their one study I was reading this morning. It's going them personal carbon allowances. And they said specifically, this was published in the journal Nature Sustainability

in 2021, saying that COVID has made it clear that things that weren't considered possible a couple years ago or just one year ago are now possible because COVID showed us in the interest of public health, people will lock down, people will change their behavior. And the researchers are basically saying, we should tak tak tak tak, tak, tak, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the they, the they, they, they, thi, thi, thi. thrown, thrown, thrown, theeean, thean, thean, thi. thean, thi. thi. thi, thi. basically saying, we should take lessons from this and use this to promote personal carbon allowances

now that people are used to vaccine passports and things like that. So, I mean, you can see the danger and where it's headed. And I mean, I think everybody understands, like this isn't a world of individual liberty, privacy, bodily autonomy, you get to make your own choices. I actually, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I tho, I th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, to, to, to, to, the to, to, to, the the to make, to, to make, the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. the the. the the th interview. I was working on the latest upcoming episode

for my documentary series, The Pyramid of Power, and it's specifically about the technocratic state. So some of it's coming from my book, but I actually did a little bit deeper research. And when you go back and study the original technocratic movement, which started in the US and Canada in like 1919, 1920, had its peak in the early 1930s, was pretty much dead and gone by the 40s and 50s. When you look at the words of this guy Howard Scott,

as well as people like Joshua Hatheman, which was Elon Musk's grandfather, who was part of the Social Credit Party, and part of Technocracy Incorporated in Canada, they really did imagine a society of like hyper micromanage. They didn't even know what computers fully were yet, but they knew that technology was coming and that at some point you would have a machine that could tabulate the calculation of every of the consumption of every individual

and the calculation of the cost of this and that, and it's gonna run perfectly. And so they had like forget the politicians and voting and all that stuff. We just need the technicians who have the knowledge and control the experts. They'll run the system right and they had this vision of a super hyper, you know, hierarchical thing at the top was this thing they called it the technique. They imagine that there was going to be a one, almost a one world system that would go from the North Pole all the way down to Central America and that would be the North American technique that would be hyper managed and micromanaged by this what we would call AI now. So I mean you can see that these ideas of this movement that most of us have never heard of are at least in part, you know, part of the guiding philosophy of

these people who are trying to ruin the world. I agree with everything you just said. And, you know, going back to the people that need to hear aren't hearing it. Like again, I have so many people in my life. I love them. I'm so happy for their success. They're crushing it. I know they love me. They see me as a crazy person.

I get it, but they just don't understand what is coming. They just don't, and all the success they have will go the fuck away. Will it happen overnight? Maybe, maybe not. I mean, if they come in and they knock out, the internet out, and they knock everything out, which I don't think they can do, but if they, if they do do it, where's your money? Where is that money? th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, thi, that, tho, tho, tho, they they tho, tho, tho, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the, the, they they they they they do it, where's your money, bro? Where is that money? Where is that money?

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but that's still a fucking insane cap. Can I just clarify this too? It's, so the account, the digital accounts they're proposing are meant for like daily expenses, so they can, I think, so they can track your daily expenses. Anything above that cap tapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap that cap that cap that cap that cap that cap. that cap. th. th. th. th. that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's th. that's tho. tho. too. to too. too. too. too. to to to to too. to to to to to to to to to too. to to to too. too. too. too. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. tho. thi. tho. tho. tho. tho. thooooooooo. the. thooooooooooo. too. too. too. too. too. too. can track your daily expenses. Anything above that cap would get put swept they say I love that term swept into your regular bank account. So anything above the 20,000 cap would just go back into your regular account but they want you using their 20,000 digital tokens for day-to-day shit so they can it's all digitally tracked. I mean that's still to me

absolutely insanity. Yeah it's crazy. Because they're getting you used to 20,000. Yeah and that's what they say. They say it's like you know 20,000 is a nice 10,000's maybe not enough but 20,000 is enough for you to handle most day-to-day expenses is what they said. They hear them them talking about like what you deserve you know. And look at what they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're. they're. they're they're. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're te. te. te. to. to. te. te. to. te. te. tell. to. te. te. they're they're they're they're they're hold on, look at how they live their life. Their houses are getting bigger, their planes are getting bigger, their yachts are getting bigger, but they want you to drive smaller cars, have tiny houses and have tiny bank accounts. You can't, watch what they want to do. Did you see that the thing Mar did about how all these rich people just want to have private planes and that's like their goal and they all fly private? Yeah, but it even goes into the woke women of Hollywood.

Like you look at what they want, they want this, at one sense they're like micro aggressions of sexual harassment in everything, everywhere. And in the same breath, they call you a monster and a their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, and in the same breath, they call you a monster and a knuckle-dragger because you don't see the beauty and art in a grown man dressed like a fucking truck stop hooker, gyrating in front of children. What they, see what they want. These, these woke women, these female comics, a lot of them are my friends. They're not necessarily doing this, but there are in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, in their, their, their, the friends they're not necessarily doing this but there are in their in their gaggle of bitches okay right telling you that looking at women as sex objects okay are wrong yet all these girls their hour their standup is about

their snatches okay and half these chicks are only fans. Dude, have you seen Instagram? Like, if you're breastfeeding, it's okay. Yeah, by the way, and I don't mind, but like, there's still a nipop. The lazy comedy in the world is the boob jiggle. That's big now on Instagram. I don't know you to believe, it's like don't believe your eyes, don't believe your ears.

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over their principles? That's all it's going to come down to. When the choices are made, you know, and so part of the book, the big thing is I'm just asking and try to provoke a conversation and say, we need to rethink our relationship with technology, not necessarily to say, hey, you need to live the lifestyle, I'm living, you know, come, their their their their their, th...., th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi....... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, thin, thin, thi. And, thin. And, th. And, that's, that's that's that's that's all, that's thi. that's all, that's all, that's all, thi and live on the fringes was me. But at the very least, whatever you're living, like you said, I mean, there's a lot of people who we know Sam, who are maybe successful now, and they've got the nine to five and the two-story house and the cars in the garage and all the stuff, and they are trying, even people who are very awake, you know, people like, and th.... And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi, and they, and they're like, and they're thi. And, and they're their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their people, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their people who are their people who are thi. I, thi. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, their people who, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. th. th. their their th. the. their their their the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th., the thing they've worked 60 years for this job and this pension and whatever, that somehow with the craziness on the horizon, they're still going to be able to do that. And I fundamentally disagree. I don't think that we are going to be able to just go about our lives and continue to live our lives the way we were prior to COVID. it 2030 agenda 2030 for a reason. It's 2023 right now. I mean, their plans are progressing and moving

forward. Every country's talking about central bank digital currencies, digital identities like doing nothing isn't going to help. And so we have to start to have conversations. Maybe just sit with yourself and reflect like what am I willing to do for my family? the cost going to be if I just keep doing the same old, same old and all of a sudden like you said, oh, I can't spend more than $20,000. That's the start of it, right? And then they will implement things like saying, well, you're spending money on the wrong things. I encourage people to go back and watch a documentary. It's called from freedom to fii. to to f. to f. to f. to f. to f. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thrown. thrown, thr. thr. the. thr. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's, th. th. That. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the start. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, thr. And, the. And the. And the. And th. And th. And film. In that film there's a scene you can probably find on YouTube still and it's just it's this crazy thing that if you were to watch this as I did back in 20 2008 2009 you're just like wow this is

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So right now, you get helpful little reminders if you search Google for one thing, they say, here's the green route. You can save this today, thrown. throwne and then it eventually turned to like, no, you're not doing this anymore, right? So I expect a similar trajectory for the next pandemic or for the climate where they start giving people helpful information and then it starts to be like, you get bonuses if you choose the more environmentally friendly route or package or flight or whatever like that. And then those things are no longer available anymore. It's only these environmentally friendly options that we're telling you you're allowed.

And at that point, you can only do it X amount of times per week or year based on your carbon. You know, so are we just gonna walk into this world? Like, I mean, that's what we need to be asking our stuff. We all know the problems and that's many people are going to do anything about it? How many people are actively thinking about what am I going to change? What behaviors am I going to change? So make sure that I can stay free and that me, my family and friends don't get trapped

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and stuff. So because I don't have a bank account, I do have a PayPal account, I do have a PayPal account, I don't really try to use it that I can use if I need to get cash. So if somebody sends me money through PayPal or like, you know, my book publishers, they're still using these old legacy systems, so I'm not even trying to convince them to get off. So they'll spend money goes to PayPal. I use a debit card, I can take it out. That's like my only interaction with banking institutions. But a lot of the tools that we've become accustomed to using in our modern world are also trying to softly nudge us and coerce us into their system. So for example, in Mexico, I can use Uber out here because in Mexico you have the option to pay cash to the driver. You can pay him direct, which is awesome. Like I love that. There's still a record of it through the app saying, hey, so tho and so so the the thi. the thi. thi. their. thi. thi. their. thi. thi. their is is their is their. their is thi. their is, thi. thi. thr-I's is, thr-I's is, toe. thr-I's is, too. too. too. toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe. Soe. Soe. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. Some. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, too. So, tsomea. So, too. So, too. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, toe. So, to here, but I'm giving cash the driver and you know there's no credit card history of that. So that allows me an option, but in the

US, I went back a couple months ago. I was coming to the US for an event. I landed in the airport, tried to take an Uber and I realize that now Uber now Uber doesn't even let you have an account if you don't have a card with money, this PayPal card that's got money fully loaded on it, I still needed to register a bank account as a backup and because I didn't have that, they wouldn't even let me use it, even though I have money, I have a card, here it is. And then another example, I'm in the airport. My partner, Miriam and I are looking for some food at the shoddy expensive airports. And I walk up, we find some food. And the. their.. them, them, them, they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the they. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They th. They's. They's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's th. I's th. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm theea. I'm thin. I'm thea. I'm thin. I'm thea. I thea. I'm thea. I thea. I'm the. I'm th we find some place that looks like reasonable food. There's a human being three feet away from me cooking some food. We asked them to see the menu. They say that it's only digital.

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nope, sorry, unless you pay the machine. I can't pay, you know, these systems, if we wait any longer to start at least thinking about these things and taking these steps, it's only going to become more and more difficult. Like there will be no way to operate it. Right now, like you said with like the sneaker situation you're saying, like so a sneaker drops and typically like you do what you have a card through your bank account and you ordered online, is that what you mean? Yeah. So I mean th. the the the the the the the the the the the they th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thr- to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. to be to be to be to be to be. to be. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to be to be toe. So I mean, technically, yeah, like if you wanted to, you could still use like an institution like PayPal or something. I call these in my book like half steps or intermediary steps because it's not going to happen from like, hey, I'm totally plugged in.

I'm dependent on a social security check. I got a 401k and a pension and credit debt de but I would say like start to think about, okay, if I get rid of the bank account, you could go to a credit union. That's still a bank institution, but typically they're local, they're more. And some credit unions still had shitty COVID policies as well, so that's one thing to look out. But I see that as like a step away from the bank's right. And then maybe you have have to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to their to to their to their to their to get their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their their the. the. the. thean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. try. thean. how would you order something online? You could keep some money and a PayPal type thing for Times like that when you need to send people money digitally You could there's also more and more crypto options as well. I mean years ago just five years ago. It's the tou their toubter their ta, their ta, toy. today, toda. toda. toe is is is is is is still is still is still is still. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tip. ti is the the the the the the tha. ti. ti. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. toda. today. today. today. today. toee. toe. today. toe. toe. toe. toe. today. today. today. today. today and you sent it to the card, and then you could spend it like that. And I traveled, I did a tour in 2018 using the bit pay card, but that was before, now it's super kYC,

you gotta take a picture your face, you gotta have a burst of all kinds of crazy stuff. So the things, even, even, even, even, even, even right that's and that's what it always comes down to is the fear of the state you know there's a lot of people who are trying to create new radical tools like decentralized finance through decentralized autonomous organizations and I might even work with one of those to fund this land purchase I'm working on but technically according to the government thrown the told th.. the the the the the the their. their. the the the the the the thi. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I's I's I's I'm. thi. the the the. the the the. I'm. the. I'm thr-I. thi. I'm the the the the the. I'm the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, the the, their, their, their, their. is is is is is is is is is is is is is. is, their. I's is is is. I's is. And, their. And, thr-I. And I's is. And I's, throwneanananananneneeanananli. And then, ttttean. And, tryean. And, ttttrye. And, tttthae. And, thae. And, their their their, thr-. Like, that's just somebody funding the project and doing it without a bank or a government approval? Oh my god, like, so I do think that we're seeing

the creation of some of these tools, but it's difficult. I mean, there's no perfect answers, and that's what I try to make clear in the book too, is like going to go on this is a generational thing. Maybe the steps that I'm laying, the foundation, I'm laying, somebody's going to come after, somebody else with more technical knowledge is going to start building the tech tools. And maybe by time our kids are adults, there are alternatives that exist for us to do business and exchange, and you can still order your sneaker using the internet. But'm sure John said to you guys, and I agree with this sentiment he's been repeating a lot recently, that the

world they're creating the central bank digital currencies, digital identities, it's either going to be like you're a part of that and every digital transaction you make is going to be a part of that system, or currencies if we wanted to still accept them. But when it comes to doing digital transactions, you know, our options are going to be limited because they're going to try to coerce and push every business, every government, every person, on to that system. And I think it could get is the only legal tender and people who are trying to trade in cash or outside of that are considered you know doing a legal activity. And I wonder and I wondered to when because I still think cash is king. I was watching this Tulsa's King. Tolso's King was

tolus King with tolus King with tol like, can you just order me the sandwich through your app? She would have took your hundred bucks, order your sandwich, and be like, fuck it, cash. Still there's paper though, until, yeah. And the end of days, that's not gonna mean anything, I mean, it's just gonna very nervous about a lot of it. You're doing the right thing with gold dude, that's it. I am I am getting into gold but you know diversify for sure. Well my old thing is like I'm still a crypto guy I'm just waiting for you know

you know it to figure itself out. I think right now we've had a lot of bad characters come in and try to Fugazi everything and Fugazi, Fugazi, whatever it is, you know, and I think I think once you start talking about how I can go to 7-Eleven buy a Coke with you know Shibuino much easier, that is the key. That is the key. That is the key that is the key to 7-Eleven buy a Coke with, you know, Shibuino, much easier. That is the key. That is the key to everything. And that, I agree. I agree.

Everybody in the crypto world, if you're working on anything, if you're working on anything, if you're working on anything other than that, you're the right. They're kind of working on it. seven a lot which still don't yeah yeah but now we tell what I'm saying with like with my coin base or whatever it is and it's like poop poop that is the only really it really shouldn't be that hard honestly I mean if you think about how many stores you go to and they got a sign that says accepting Apple pay Google pay stamps the like yeah why that's what needs to be not just add accepting crypto like you know you know, it's just another option. And I think you're right as far as how important it is that people in the crypto space and people who are trying to grow that space, education is key.

I mean, when I was doing these tours, I was basically going to businesses while traveling and saying, hey, I'm doing a tour, spending nothing but crip. Can I open you with a wallet and just saying, hey, put out a little sign with your wallet address and say accepting Bitcoin. You don't got to do anything extra, but you're going to open yourself up to a whole new market of people. Because if you've been around any crypto people, crypto nerds. Like that's the thing is like if you go, I'm speaking at Menneroeroeroero. I I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a to. I'm a to. I'm a to. I'm a to. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their. their. their their their wallet address their their wallet address their their their their wallet address their their their wallet address to to to to to to to to to to to their it's gonna be like three days of talks and workshops and there's gonna be vendors and food and all that stuff, but you're not allowed to spend anything but Minero there. And I guarantee like if you have a product

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Do you think that that is, is that something we should be doing or is that kind of reinforcing bad habits, you know, like relying on Fiat? Should we be like purely crypto if we're committed to this? Should we just commit to that and then try to do as much as we can just in pure crypto or are those transactions okay for now? No I hear you. I mean I can't hate on anybody who's maybe I'm doing it. Fear or trepidation of the like the you know craziness of the market and it's like hey I'm gonna try to play both you know. to play the to play to play to to the to to to the to to the th. th. the to the th. to th. th. th. to th. to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. true. true. to try. hey i'm gonna try to play both you know play both ways and play it safe uh... so i mean do what you do but i will say specifically as far as that example that coinbase

i don't trust coinbase already said they'll report there are people to the iraq s over certain uh... transactions over certain amounts and i think also the problem with like some of these intermediaries like coin base or i was the one before uh... robin hood and some of the other ways like it's it's it's like a gateway into crypto and for maybe like average person who doesn't need to or want to know all the mechanics of it it's like okay cool i'm already i just do one happen and okay there's crypto here but they never learn about private keys they're never learn about actually holding their keys themselves that you can have your crypto. So instead they just keep it on an exchange or something like that.

And those exchanges are where we get hacked. And then people lose millions of dollars. And then people, you see the articles run, crypto's dead, another hack, because people fundamentally misunderstand how to use crypto. It takes way more personal responsibility. I would say that when I was first starting years ago, when I was, even after I'd learned quite a bit, I made a mistake. I mean, I lost I think $500 to a transaction because I made rookie mistakes.

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to say, hey, somebody ripped me off. Can you make sure this, you know, take care of me or government? Or, you know, and I think that's the big thing is, it requires more personal responsibility. And for a lot of people, that's not something they want to do something something something something something something something something to do to do s something s something to do s something to do s something to take, you know, learning new skills, it's going to take pushing past that. So I think my main concern with CoinBase and some of those other ways of holding you're

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And I want to start, we could do your recent work on the fluoride trial, which I think is very important. Then we'll get into some the sexual abuse within the Mormon Church that I think is very interesting. So let's get into this fluoride trial because I think it's important that people realize like, you know what I mean like I was listening again somebody talking about and I think I talked about in the last time is like when you start looking for conspiracies and everything, well everything is a conspiracy. It just is and it's just like from everything and we're getting into the fluoride in our toothpaste in our water, all that stuff. So where do you want to start with that?

Yeah, I mean I'll just start by echoing what you're saying. I definitely have seen and felt and dealt with since my beginning of fluoride research, which was back in 2011, how people are resistant to this. And I think there's a couple reasons that I'll just mention briefly. One of them being just propaganda. So for example, anybody out there who's talked about fluoride has probably had this experience. Try to talk to a friend about fluoride, especially if there's somebody who's a little bit, you know, let's say 40 and up or something. And they mention Dr. Strange Love.

They say like, oh, you sound like Dr. Strange Love, you know, conspiracies about things in the water, it's like that programming's already there. Or people are just dismissive of it, the, or people, or people, or people, or people, or, th., th., th., th., th.. thi, th. thi, thi, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they they, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they mentioned, they they mention, they they mention, they they mention, they mention, they mention, they mention, they're theyental Association says it's great for my teeth. It's in my toothpaste, it's in the water. You know, the government would never put bad things in the water. It's like these unspoken assumptions that people have that somebody out there at some point looked into thi. And they said it's good because obviously it make it difficult for people to look into. And just because, you know, that stupid label of conspiracy theory, but I will tell you that this is one of the one of the most well-researched areas

that we have mountains and mountains of evidence that are only piling up further, even just as recently as a couple of days ago, a brand new study on fluoride. I would recommend people who are totot new to this to go read or listen to the book called the fluoride deception, which is a really just incredible history of the beginning of water fluoridation and how propaganda, specifically like propaganda, like Edward Bernays type style propaganda was used working with the American Dental Association and the very beginning to convince the public that putting this toxic substance, hydrofluoric acid aka fluoride, which is a byproduct of aluminum phosphate mining, mainly from this company based out of Florida, they used propaganda

to convince people that this was something that needed to be helpful and it's going to be good for your bones and strong teeth and all this kind of stuff. And really what they were doing was helping, I think they were called Alcoa, the aluminum company, which would have had to pay to dispose of this waste. They would have had to spend money to figure out how to take care of it in a proper way. Instead, now has contracts with cities like Houston, where I'm from for $4 million to give them them ide, this toxic substance, to put in the water.

And that's been going on now for 70 years, that that's been a practice in the United States. Most countries in the world don't fluoridate the water. Some countries like Europe, the European Union, and Mexico and some other places, they put fluoride in the salt. But the US is by th, by th, by th, by, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th.... th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, the, the, the, the, they. thin, they. to to to to they. toooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, their, their, their, their like the largest proponent of water fluoridation. And so that's kind of where things have been. People have been researching, asking questions about fluoride and trying to poke holes in these claims about dangers and as for

me as a journalist I've been reporting on it for the whole time I've been doing this work. Every chance I had to talk about fluoride from a scientific perspective to show people like, hey here's another study. I know th. thine thine thine thine the the thine thine thine thine thine thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the, the, the, the, the, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. the, th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the is the is thean, is thean, is thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. theeeeeeeeeeean, is the people, like the skeptical people, hey, here's another study. I know you think I'm crazy, but here's some more research. I've taken that opportunity. And so in 2020, I actually started to do this investigation. There was a lawsuit, which has a hashash, that I'm using as fluoride lawsuit, hashtag fluoride trial. The fluoride action network,

over at fluoride alert, which is an amazing, which is an amazing, which is an amazing resource for information. Again, if you're totally new to this, I encourage you to start with them. They have just, they have like the best repository of database of studies on fluoride and the dangerous effects of it. And so them and some other organizations, food and water watch or organic consumers association, they filed a lawsuit in 2016. Well, first they filed a petition with the EPA under this law that's called the Toxic Substance Control Act, which was passed in the 70s. And basically, it's supposed to be a way that the EPA keeps us safe and they regulate known toxins or they ban them altogether. And the people, apparently under this law, have the ability to petition, hey, the people apparently under thi. their. thi. thi. T. T. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. T. I's. thi. T. thi. thi. thi. thi. T. T. their. T. T. their. T. T. their. their. their. T. their. their. their. their. T. their. It's, their. It's, their. It. It's, their. It. It's. It. It's. It. It's. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the the to. to. to. to. t. to. the to. t. the to. the to. the the to. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. toxic. Can you please review our petition? And then, you know, in a perfect world, they say, hey, you're right, we found out this is toxic, we're going to ban it or we're going to, you know, do something about it. Well, that's what the organizations did. They filed the petition. The EPA denied the

petition. They counters sued them and it was just given a judge, a court date and everything. And for the first time in US history, there was going to be a court case, a federal court case where the proponents of water fluoridation, the US government, EPA and the opponents, the attorneys for the Florida action network would be clashing in court and presenting evidence. And so I started following that in 2020 with the first original trial. And I was one of the only people that I know of any independent media to really focus on it. And you know I did a bunch of articles back then in 2020. We can talk about that but the short version of that is basically after a couple of weeks of testimony and plenty of

like groundbreaking evidence being presented by scientists from all over the world, studies from Mexico, from Canada, Spain, about the dangers of fluoride and specifically about how fluoride causes a lower lowering of IQ points in children who've been exposed to it, then their pregnant moms and after birth. So you know really dangerous stuff and basically though the judge at the end of 20 August 2020 the judge said okay I've heard all the evidence from the government and from the the judge at the end of 2020, August 2020, the judge said, okay, I've heard all the evidence from the government and from the plaintiffs. And at the time, there was this big study that was supposed to be coming out from this government agency called the national toxicology program. It was supposed to be coming on maybe next year in 2021. So we're like, all right, look, we've only said draft of the national toxicology program. It's what they call a monograph, which is like, we're going to review all the existing

data. Every study has ever been done about Florida, and then we're going to show you, here's our conclusions. So the judge said, let's not rush. We've got a lot of evidence, but let's wait until this report's released and been for the last two and a half years. And then in October of this year, we started to see some movement. And in January, there's some more revelations I can talk about, but all calls there to. Well, I mean, it's just like, here's the problem with everything right now in our society. The laws have allowed scum bags and liars to operate with immunity. Impunity and immunity. That's what's happened.

You can lie like a scumbag and never feel any punishment for it. And you can sell out your fellow man for a dollar. Knowing what you did is wrong, because you don't give a shit, because you're just trying to make as much money as you possibly can Appeasing your masters and it makes me sit I don't think that's happening right now in Idaho with that West Palestine that's exactly what's happening is there telling the Well dude, I just got not the same thing but like it's about money well and they're not telling the people that they're like, you should get the fuck out of here. You're talking about Ohio. You're talking about Ohio and I think Ohio, I mean, Robin's been texting me a bunch of stuff.

But I'm starting to think, oh, we, this might be a, I know this might sound crazy and I don't want to be an alarmist. But I'm starting to think, because now there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the there's the the the the the th is now the th is now, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin's thin's thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thi. Robing thi. Rob. Robing thi, thi, thi, thi, Robin. Robin. Robin. Robin. thi, Robin. thi, Robin. thin' thin' thi, Robin. thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' is thin' is thin' is thin' is thin' is thin' is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to think, because now there's been another train explosion in Houston. Seems kind of crazy just after all this pipeline stuff started happening, right? Now we're seeing these giant chemical explosions with these trains. What are you thinking? Like, you think like... Say it. Yeah. Just say. This might be outside attacks. Kind of like when they, like when they stop the pipeline, not too long ago in the United States.

Yeah, but this might be a counterattack by people. I mean, you can't, you can't march into America. You can't do it. You can't. They would have already done it if they could. With the shit we pulled everywhere, you can't. They would have already done it if they could. With the shit we pulled everywhere, you can't. There's a gun in every house. There's a bunch of crazy ass rednecks and gangbangers and all the stuff. They're not gonna be cool to that shit.

So you gotta do it like slowly over time and that's what this woke shit is and maybe they said enough's enough. And now we got a second train exploding? It's interesting, ma'am. But back to the fluoride, man. I mean, I just, it's like to me, just pure insanity, pure insanity, that people are allowing these corporations to destroy our children because they're paycheck and how much money is enough money to sell out your fellow man there's a special place in

hell for you to do that anybody that allows a hurting of children is a scum bag and and should not be allowed to walk the streets. Sorry. Sam, I want to read to you guys. Just I want to quote, share this quote with you guys. This is from the Florida Action Network. It pretty much says what you just said, but this is what the Florida Action Network said, like the latest statement because, well, I guess I'll, before that I'll share what thi, the judge delays it in August, and nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing, and nothing, and nothing, and nothing, and nothing, and nothing, and nothing, and nothing, the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, toe, toe, toe, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe.e.e.e. toe. toe. toe, toe, toe, toe, it in August and nothing's happened in two and a half years, just slow behind the scene stuff. Well October there was a

hearing that was coming up and the lawyers with the Florida Action Network they filed and submitted some documents to the court. They actually were trying to get emails between the CDC, the FDA, the FDA that they thou th thought might be that they thought the American Dental Association that they thought might be relevant and they ended up getting some emails through open records request that they submitted to the court and these emails specifically show again these emails theaugh and these emails, the emails from members of the CDC, members of the National Toxicology program who are the scientists who are doing this long-da-iniiiiiiiiii.. the toee. they.e. toe. toe. I, toe. I, they. I, toe. I, the the toe. I, toe. I, the toe. I was, toe. I was, toe. I was, toe, the the, thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, th. So, th. So, the, the, the, the, th. is is, the, the, the, is is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the the the the the the the the the toe. the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the toe. the the the the the. the they. they., which is part of the U.S. government, in their own words, said that this report on fluoride was ready for release in May 2022

of last year. That date came and went, nothing happened. The courts were kind of sitting around waiting. And these emails show that it was specifically, you guys know Rachel Levine, who is the assistant health term human services, the first openly transgender person. These emails show that that person, Rachel Levine, is the one that stopped this study from being released. I mean it says it clearly in these emails that AHS assistant health secretary is going to stop the release of this. And then there's another statement that says

that the office of director of the National Institute of Health, which is basically was Fauci's boss, this other guy named Lawrence Tabik, who I'd never heard of. It specifically mentions these two people that they intervened and they stopped the National Toxicology Program from releasing this huge massive review of all the literature on fluoride, which, which, which, which, which, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, is th, is the, the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is thi, and thi, is to to toe, and is too, and is too, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, and toe, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, is is, and thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, is the the thi of all the literature on fluoride, which we can assume was not going to be a positive study for fluoride. And so the lawyers for the Floyd Actionwork submitted that to the court to

show the judge. Unfortunately, the judge didn't really like talk about it too much or listen to it. He kind of was like, he was dismissive of it. But you know, for anybody with eyes and ears, and I reported on this. T these these emails. these emails. these emails. the emails. the emails. the emails. the emails. the emails. the emails. the the the the the the toe. toe, I was. toe, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, tooes. tooes. tooes. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. I. I. I. I. I. I was, I was, I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. this, these emails clearly show the highest levels of health and human services, National Institute of Health, and the CDC communicating behind the scenes when the National Toxicology Program clearly said, this is ready for release, the science is done. The emails show that the CDC was trying to tell them, hey, let's do one more review. We just need to do reviews. Do more reviews. We're going to get another board to look it, just trying to delay it as long as possible.

And as the Floyd Action Network has shown, this monograph from the NTP is the only one in history that we know of that has already had five reviews from five different sets of groups of experts and has been delayed multiple years now. So that was like a big bombshell that came out just aing to block the release of this study. And they were also arguing trying to get the judge to delay this whole thing for another six months and keep delaying it and keep delaying it. The judge's most recent ruling just last month in January was that he would delay it for three months. He pushed it off till April.

He said he's going to wait to see if the national taxc-cology cclicclic He might choose to make it public, but the fact of the matter is the attorneys have seen it, the judge have seen it, but the public is not allowed to see it. And the other messed up thing is the email show that the CDC, the US government, before they let the public see it, they sent and toothpaste and all that stuff. So there's just all kind of fuckery going on. Most people don't even know this lawsuit's happening. And then this is the statement from the fluoride action network, which kind of repeats what you were saying, Sam, says, fluoride action,

that the court rejected the EPA's callousness towards the millions of US children currently at risk of neurotoxic harm from fluoridation ought to concern every parent, grandparent and future parent. Jesus. It's just like we've lost our sense of dignity and love and respect and we've allowed her children. It's just ridiculous, man. I cannot. we've allowed her children to hurt children. It's just ridiculous, man. I cannot. It's like, you know, you could say whatever you want about Kerry Lake. And people could hate her for some of her stances and maybe because she's too close to Trump. That puts you off.

I get it, okay? But the fact of the matter is, is she went in the court and proved that if it was Beyond negligent if it wasn't intentional that in the in certain districts of Arizona which bled very red That they per that they used the wrong size paper for the ballots that the machines wouldn't read them, which would invalidate the vote. In the areas in which Kerry Lake probably most likely would dominate, and they rejected it. They rejected it. It was blatantly. Everybody following this trial was like, oh, it's done.

It's over. Everybody that followed the trial of the guy who went to the FBI was saying that it was Russia that hacked these servers, and it was found out that not only did he lie about working with Hillary Clinton. He lied about the whole thing. Everything. And he got off because a lot of jurors were Clinton people.

I mean, we are living, and this is the danger, everybody, of once you get these things in the court, you start creating precedence. And if there's enough precedence, truth and justice will be completely and utterly lost. And the Alex Jones trial, same exact thing. You have an activist blue-haired, 40,000 vaccine-boosted judge just allowing a fucking monkey court to happen.

It was banana republic bullshit. He was made an example. Try to make it an example for everybody else for all of us. And we just live in chaos, bro and it's just super tragic that we are allowing this to happen to our children. I mean and look at everyone's always with China. They're like, oh my god look at the Chinese, look at the Tick-talk and what they're they're tea they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the they're the they're the they're they're the the they're the the they're making the the the the the they're making the they're making they're making they're making their they're making they're making their they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're making they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're ti ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. trying trying trying te. trying te. trying trying ti. their they're they're they're they're, and look at it. Everyone's always with China. They're like, oh my God, look at the Chinese, look at the Tick Tock and what they're teaching their kids. Oh, that's the same government that their policies have lowered their birth rate by 50%.

50%. Think about that number. They cannot carry their listen to China you guys I know we've had friends on here who have said everything against China's propaganda I don't think it's all propaganda I think a lot of it is World War II World War III propaganda for sure but China unless unless everything I've ever learned about spirituality is wrong, China has some bad karma coming. They killed 100 million of their people, they destroyed,

they killed off all those baby girls. Well, did you see this thing this week? There are, I mean, just thousands and thousands of people protesting because they cut government benefits for like health care, and I did the conversion, they cut it from like $38 a month what these people are getting for their health care to something like $10 or $12 a month. That's what they're getting to, you know, to pay health expenses and, you know, like preventative. And they're just thousands of their street. And that's, I mean, 38 bucks, that's what they were getting.

That's what when you get what the government wants you to have. It's 30, which is what it starts at 20,000 bucks and then it starts working back. 38 hours and England like dude we are watching we are watching a migration in the Europe that will change the fabric of Europe. They are trying to change the cultural makeup of Europe now I am not anti-Muslims that thi that will they thi that that will th th th. th. th. th. th. thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they they they they they they are they are their they are they are they are they they are they are they they they they they they they they they they they they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are not thi thi thi to thi to thi thi thi thi. I thi thi. I they are not not not not not not they are not they are not they are they are they are They are trying to change the cultural makeup of Europe. Now I am not anti-Muslim, I'm not anti-Middle-Eastern. I love, I love the melting pot that is Europe, that is America. I think diversity is our strength, not our weakness, but when you've obviously weaponized it, this is being done on purpose.

They are annihilating Latin American economies, so they're all running here and they're bombing the fuck out of the Middle East to push them all into Europe. This is all being done on purpose. It's a spiritual war. I think they're going to fuck up with America and that because a lot of the people that are coming, and I love to hear your thought on this, Derek, I've said it's before on the show, that a lot of people are coming up here are Marxists in the fact that's the people versus the government, and they wake up to the government and they tend to be more conservative than a lot of people believe. Super conservative. And they're their family. They're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. the. the. their thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. their their their their their th. And they're their family values, they're anti, like what pasta calls college Marxists. They don't like that shit. They're not, I'm not, I can't put words in anybody mouth, but they're not really open to alternative lifestyles, like the Democrats want you to believe. They're family oriented. Derek, you're in, you're in Mexico. What are your thoughts?

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And again, I love everybody, all the Abrahamic religions. I'm not anti any of them. I have a lot of Muslim friends. I have to say this so people don't think I'm going crazy on anybody. I'm just not. I'm just, we have seen the illegal assassinations of very moderate Muslims. I mean, Iran, Libya, we've annihilated their moderate leaders and installed extremists, which has a ripple effect. So you wonder why, and I don't even believe that a lot of these quote-unquote terrorists

are doing it out of ideology. I think they're doing it because there's a paycheck along with it, funded by black ops of the CIA. But it's like the same exact thing. They are this invisible hand as weaponizing the progressive left which I think is American ISIS okay to destroy it's from the middle it's what they've been doing in the Middle East and what they do in Africa. They take out moderates and they install extremists to create chaos and that's being done on purpose and that's the the the the the the the the the th th the th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the same the same the same the same the same the same the same.. the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same the same same same same same same the same same same same the same the same same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same. and they install extremists to create chaos.

And that's being done on purpose and that's the weaponization of religion. And that's why I want to get into the other thing that you wanted to talk about. And again, this is not anti-Mormon. We do shows in Salt Lake all the time. I have no problems with these people. Mormons are one of nicest peoplethe time. I have no problems with these people. Mormons are one of the nicest people out there. They're hilarious and they're fun. And Salt Lake is probably one of the most underrated comedy towns in America. But there has been, just like in the Catholic Church, just like in Islam, and just like in Judaism, okay?

Which we all know, which nobody wants to talk about. There's been a pedophilia problem. And it's sex scandals. What are your thoughts on that, Derek? I mean, yeah, I mean, you're right, of course, to say that this happens in all different areas. Over the last three years, I've probably covered sex scandals, like big investigations, like hundreds of cases involving children in the Southern Baptist church,

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a church, all of those are positions of authority where parents tend to just trust and leave the kids alone with the adult and you know okay well it's the Cub Scout leader we can trust them it's the pastor or whatever and for whatever reason well I mean we know because these people are twisted they're fucked up in the head they gravitate towards those kind of situations where they can take advantage of it so it's not so much the particular religions although I will say the more more the the the the the the the the the the the th is is is is is. the the th is. I th is th is th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm not the the thi. I'm the. I'm. the. thi. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. teeeean. tean. tea. tea. tea. te. te. te. te. I can't is te. I'm te more and more that I've studied Mormonism, Mormonism is definitely a cult. That doesn't mean there aren't good people involved in it, but it started out as a cult. It has a lot of crazy stuff infecting it. And there are of course ex-Mormans and people who see the

abuse that we're talking about today, and they still fully believe in their church and they believe, you know the church has just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just has just got a few bad apples and stuff like that. And there's others who again also consider themselves Mormons, but question fundamentally the foundation of that church from the beginning. And so, you know, I, because I've spent more time focused on Mormonism last year, I can, I would say from my perspective, my research, it definitely is a cult. Doesn't mean there aren't positive things that could come out of it, people having community or family or closeness or whatever, but when you look at it and you pull back the layers of

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Yeah. Because, isn't that fucked out? I mean, we have seen where these religions are where in the past gay men went to hide. And we've had people who, you know, Brian Kellyn talks about all the time. There's a guy who went undercover into the Vatican. He was like it was a giant gay and pedophile club. That's why they should get rid of the celibacy requirement. It would solve so much of this.

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there and people in Israel are starting to talk about that. Does that make Judaism bad? I don't think so. That's my personal opinion. Catholic. I think the problem is that when these things happen, these organizations, whether churches or Cub Scouts or the government, they don't want to correct it. Instead, they try to cover it up. That's what like every one of these investigations, the Catholic Church, the Cubs, Southern Baptist, that has come out in the last few years, it's like at first, like this never happened, this couldn't be happening. Okay, it happened, but it was an isolated incident and we didn't know anything about it. And then you find out like in the case of the Cub Scouts and a lot of the church that's specifically focused on trying to catalog all the different incidents and then in some cases

like cover them up. Like specifically, I found out the Mormon church has a set of attorneys that are specifically there just to kind of direct people who call and they have this help line. This was talked about some of the mainstream too. They have this help line where you call in if you're Mormon and if you have anything, but it's specifically you've been abused or have some experience of abuse. You call the help line, you talk to a pastor, I forget what they call them. But this help line

we found out is actually staffed by the lawyers that work for the Mormon church. so they're like oh we got a new one and so isn't that crazy? Let's make sure this doesn't go anywhere and they keep it in a bubble and they'll tell them keep coming back and I mean I'll tell you guys this about the case that I'm yeah let's get into the case you're investigating like first okay so first it started with I think we might thi thoe thii thi the th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they're they're thi they're they're thi thi thi thi thi theeeeeeean. to they're they're they're theean. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're think we might have mentioned this before but this all started my whole investigation into Mormonism and This kind of stuff. I mean you guys know I've covered Epstein and the finders and other things So I was sort of already ready to dive in thi. to try to? But it started because in May of last year the Utah County, the Utah County, the abuse taking place in three different Utah counties from 1990 to 2010 and they said if you have any information on this please reach out to us and I saw that and was

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a cannibal, I'm not a child molester, I didn't murder anybody, and everybody was kind of like, what the hell is he talking about? I remember this. Damn, yeah, man, this is crazy. He put out this, he basically said, there's a 151 page victim statement that accuses me and my and my wife th. th. th. th. th. th. And my wife th. And my wife, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this this th. this this this this this thi. this this this this this this this thi, thi. thi. this is, the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. this th. this this th. th. this is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. this. 151 page victim statement that accuses me and my wife of being cannibals and part of a satanic sex ring and I think that this this sheriff's investigation is coming after me this is politically motivated because at the time there was a there was an election coming up this is May June of last year so Utah was about to have their primaries including for his position and so he was just saying this is just because the Republican sheriff, even though they're all Republicans, that's the funny thing. He's like, this Republican sheriff's

coming after me because I'm a progressive district attorney and because he doesn't like my policy, this is all political. But he pretty much just outed himself. They hadn't named any suspect. He had said anything about any of this. He just comes and holds a press conference. and says, by the way, me and my wife are not cannibals. And that was just like, okay, what the hell is going on here? And I started following the case and I got access to that document, the 151 page statement. I have access to all these documents. It's hundreds of pages. And it relates to a case from 2012, this therapist in Utah named David Hamlin.

he abused his own patients, including his own daughters. He was caught abusing his patients, he lost his therapy license. After that, he started hosting these spiritual healing groups and would use like some form of hypnosis to abuse people. And his daughters came out. That was all in 2012. He got arrested. He went to court. But the attorney said that he was having trouble getting all the documentation and they eventually dismissed the trial, not because of, or they dismissed it without prejudice, which means that it could be brought back if they have more evidence. So that was back in 2012, 2014.

After this announcement came in 2022, I started looking into all this history, and I suspected that it was David Hamblin that they were going after. But we didn't know for sure until just this past October, a couple months back, they actually did arrest him. He was the first arrest in this ongoing investigation to ritualize child sexual abuse. So that was like my initial investigation. I started communicating with the sheriff's office. I started reporting on this. People from Utah started to reach out to me. So I dove deeper and I did a couple of pieces for the last American Bagabon just looking at the history of abuse in Utah and in the history of abuse within the Mormon church and there's a lot there's at least decades worth within the Mormon church they've been covering up. And the more

I reported, people started reaching out to me. I actually was able to release and I think I send you guys these links. I was able to release this tent hadn't been seen in 30 years. It was a documentary that was made in the early 90s, late 80s, about the former head of the Mormon church, his name is Gordon B. Hinkley. He's dead now. But he was their longest serving leader and he himself had been accused of being involved with young boys and prostitutes and stuff. And if you search for this on the internet, you won't find a single record of this. They've done a great job like hiding these accusations. Well, somebody reached out to me and said, hey, I have a tape that my father had from 30 years ago. It's a VHS tape. That is called The Truths About the Truths, the Truths. It's, the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the the the the the the the Internet. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's the. It's the. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they had witnesses in there, but it never made it to the internet. So they sent it to me, we digitized it and we uploaded it to the internet, I reported on it, it's on all my channels and now it's out there on the internet forever.

And of course some Mormons, this is me more information. I got sent that tape before we released that. I got sent another tape from the 90s, which was this Oklahoma report related to Mormonism, but more specifically about satanic ritual abuse called Where the Children that hadn't been seen since the 90s. I published that and put that online. And then through all of that, I had a woman named Kate reach out to me. And we did a two-part investigation called Kate's story. Kate is actually the ex-wife of David Hamblin, the therapist who's now arrested, of his best friend, Eldon Talley, who was also involved in this spiritual cult, this healing circles.

And she told me her whole story of how she knew David Hamble, how he coached her husband to abuse her, and that she was that she wasthe Mormon Church as a young child. Now she's an adult woman and she's decided to go public and share her whole story with me. So we published that, we put that reporting out. And as I said now there's been an arrest back. We haven't really seen much movement since then, but if it's good, it's a good thing this guy's being arrested because he's a dangerous criminal son. But the 2012 documents, he is a scumbag and these 2012 documents though if there's, and of course, innocent until proven guilty, so I'd like to just give that caveat.

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Yeah, and on the front page of the Last American Vagabond website, you'll see a tab. This is Derek Broes for all my articles, and you'll see a section that says Utah ritual abuse. That has my whole series. I mean, because this basically consumed my time from like June of last year, so in, the more I reported, so many people were reaching out, they were sending me their stories of, hey, I saw this, or I heard this thing, I know this thing. And some of them went public like Kate and I shared her story. Others were just like, kind of, you know, behind the scenes, witnesses, and testimony for me to use. But, I mean, that's why I'm this is just one case. Just one case. I am so pissed off right now. This guy, this

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It's not that hard to see who these people are. I'm not encouraging anybody to do anything because none of them are being charged yet. But they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are. they are. th. they're they're they're they're th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the the. the but they are out there. And if there's even any tiny bit of truth to these documents, it's fucked up and scary and disturbing. All right, so Derek, what we're going to do is we're going to have you back and bring on anybody that you want. We're going to do a deep dive on this document and get the word out. Because if there's a guy out there who's known as a fucking punisher that hurts children, that dude needs to be put on blast. I agree.

I'm happy to come back and talk about a man. Yeah, we'll get it. I'm going to tell. So get anybody you know doing research on this, we'll set it up and we're just going to go fucking big game hunting because like I don't know why it's suddenly become cool to hurt children I don't know why people look away from it I don't know why people think it's that we shouldn't protect children at all cost and the fact that there's a motherfucker out there called Punisher is a piece of shit and it's upsets me that scumbags like that are allowed to walk.

And this sheriff, whoever brought this case out, that takes a lot of balls and I respect you, man. And I bet you went through a lot of shit. A lot of people coming at you. I'll just say one more thing on that, I know we're gonna wrap up. Well, his name's Sheriff Mike Smith, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thea, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I's, th. I's, th. th. th. I's, th. th. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. th. I's, th. th. th. I's, th. th. th. th. th. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I'ma. I's. I'll just say one more thing on that. I know we're going to wrap up. Well, his name is Sheriff Mike Smith and I've communicated with the department as a journalist, you know, telling them about my reports. I've sent them my reports. And I'm skeptical of cops and authority in government, but I genuinely believe that

this little local police department is actually t want to say one of the thing about like all the topics we've talked about today, so fluoride, concerns about the technocracy, and in this Utah case, I'm reporting on things, like, in the fluoride case, it's a federal case, it's a trial, it's going on there, but if we were to talk to somebody about this on, this, their.... So, their. So, their. So, their. A. A. A. A. A. A. C. their. their. C. their. their. C. to. to. their. to. to. to about to about to be. to about to be about their is about their is about to be about to be about to be about to be about to. to be about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about they.... they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to tell people that there is an ongoing investigation to ritualize child sexual abuse they would call me Q and on they would say that I'm crazy I'm just reporting on facts on things that are happening you know and a couple of months ago the NBC News they put out a hit piece about this investigation this before David Hamlin was arrested and they took this horrible lens. They said, look at this crazy investigation by these sheriffs, looking at ritualized child sexual abuse. It's just

politically motivated. There's a witch hunt. They're going after this attorney general. And this is an example of how Q&on has infected Republican politics and this is so horrible. And then 10 paragraphs down, oh by the way, there is an ongoing investigation by the Sheriff's Department into ritual abuse, but don't pay any attention to that. Yeah. So they did this whole hit piece, you know, and this is her name's Brandy Zadronsky. She's the lead senior reporter of NBC News and probably gets paid better than both of us, you know, and I'm over here and writing real stories. she puts this hit piece out there designed to make people who maybe appear up this to you tall thing to just oh it's just cueing on stuff nothing to look at well then

after their trash article came out and arrest is made oh I guess it wasn't nothing here here's an arrest now being made in this investigation of ritualized child sexual abuse did they follow up with it? Have they written anything else? No, not yet. But they contacted me about a week ago, Brandy Zadronsky, this journalist, contacted me, wanting to do an interview with me about my work on this. And I recorded the entire interview as they did, and I don't know what they're gonna do if they're planning to put out an article,

making fun of me or attacking me. but I stood my ground and talked to this lady for an hour and I can't wait to share that with you guys and I'll tell you that just the level of this person, this is again the senior reporter of NBC News, multi-national corporation probably making $50,000, $70,000 a year if not more, easy. And she tells me that when I asked her, I said, well, why wouldn't you want to look into this? You know, Lisa, you don't have to believe claims of Satanism necessarily to see that, hey, people are reporting something, there's an investigation by the sheriff. Isn't that newsworthy? Why wouldn't she want to report on that? And what she told me was that as a journalist, in her world, you need to wait?

to wait until somebody York Times or for somebody that's credible in the mainstream. And there is somebody. It's called a sheriff, you dumb bitch. Now, when did you ask her about the arrest? What was her response to that? I was like... I did say something. I told her, I said, because at the beginning I wasn't really letting her know.

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unless they mention Satanism, then the- Or they mention children, because you can't spin that into something, some personal benefit, which is the woke women of Hollywood. The reason they don't defend children because they can't spin that into a writing gig, a set at comedy club, you know, money, fan, I mean that's it, that's it, there's no benefit in it. You know, it's like so funny, somebody, I was listening to Kurt Metzger talk about,

Kurt Metzker and Jimmy Doer talk about the Sam Smith stuff and you know they were they were like we've heard Tim Dylan, I, we talked about it, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th,. And you know, they were like, we've heard Tim Dylan, I, we talked about it, you know how hacky Sam Smith is and everyone, that's kind of, thank God for comedians. But you know, Kurt Metzger brought up a great point about this. And that, that the reason the left, like, they've outlawed and demonize anything, everything dangerous. That the only thing they have left that they can make fun of now is Satanism and have fun with is Satanism and pedophilia. Right? I mean, that's what the jokes are now. And the reason they do that, the reason they make fun of kids get abused is because kids can't cancel them.

Kids can't organize and get them blackball from anything or sue them. They have no power. If we're going to play this dumb game of punching up and punching down, there's no more punching down than hurting children. Doesn't this sound like Jeff for Epstein Part 2 But this guy was arrested, there was a case, he got to let go, now new shit's coming out, and then now they're scared. This is the initiation into power. Outside of murder, hurting children is the worst thing you could do.

And then obviously rape is right there. But it's like hurting kids. And it's like it is the initiation to the highest levels levels of ofes ofes ofes ofes ofes ofes ofes ofes it's like hurting kids. And it's like the initiation to the highest levels of power. There's reason why some people get canceled, they can't perform in certain comedy clubs, and then other guys are on a fucking national commercial during the Super Bowl. That skin thing just grossed me out. The whole thing is gross. Yeah, but there's... The fact that there's a guy named the Punisher. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th is, th is, the th is, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the the th. Yeah, the the the the the the the the the the thi...... Yeah, their the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the highest, the the the Bowl. That skin thing just grossed me out. The whole thing is gross.

Yeah, but there's a guy named the Punisher. Yeah, right. Yeah. That guy needs his ass like you go you don't kill people like that. You slowly and surely annihilate these people for 20 years. That nickname is that is that something the kids called him because he was so feared or is that that's what all the friends that they called the the. That the the the the the the the their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. They. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. there's. The. The. T. The. T. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. There's. there's. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there. there's. there. there's. there's. there. there something the kids called him because he was so feared or is that? That's what all the friends... That's what they called themselves. That they all, the, that is what we're calling the Church of Satan within there, those individuals, they all had names for themselves. So there was the leader, there was the pun up and beat them badly you bring in the punishment. I guess they have their own rules, their own little counties.

Yeah, it's gonna go. Sim's nuts shit man. So dark. Well Derek. Thanks to let me share about it guys. That no. Sorry I don't like ending on this, but I'm very upset right now. Derek, we need to have you back to do a deep dive into this, which gets dangerous, obviously. Gets dangerous. I mean, Johnny sent me a chart which showed my shadow banning on YouTube, and that you can go back to what caused that shadow banning, and that was Pizza Gate. Me talking about pizza. That's what caused that shadow banning and that was Pizza Gate. Me talking about Pizza Gate. That's what caused the shit and I fucked up because I didn't put the whole thing on there, but at the highest peak, this level right here is like 150,000.

Imagine what kind of world we're in when we're getting 150,000 all the time. But if you would have never tou stop that subject shill Imagine if you were to try not to do it. Yeah, yeah, exactly It you would it would have fucking kicked you into dick anyways. Yeah All right Derek one more time stick to the truth no matter what man Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Why don't you? Why don't you? Tell our listeners. tell you the telc-I the the the the the the the the th. th. the tell tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. the tell. tell. the tell. the tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. they tell. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. try. tell. tell. the. they're would would would would would would. they the. the conversation awesome stuff. The Conscious Resistance.com is my main website and I don't think I mentioned but you can download the book for free, the Conscious Resistance.com slash how-to. You can order the physical copies. It's available in Spanish, French, and I just signed a deal for Japanese so that'll be coming out next year. And yeah, if you want to find out more about my work, the conscious resistance.com, the pyramid of power.net is where my documentary series and all of my reports on Utah and everything

we mentioned can be found on my websites. All right, perfect ma'am. Well, you know, I mean, great discussion today. Sorry, it was dark again. If you want to see me live, go to Sam Tripoli.com. The weirdo tour is on full effect. More dates are coming, but Morris Plains this weekend with my boy, Howie Doey. The comedy chaos is cooking with gas. Then Spokane with my man.

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