Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #655: The Occult Symbolism Of The Wizard Of Oz with Isaac Weishaupt

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hattie. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home, boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? Go! Good! Morning's warm and welcome to Tim Fawle.

Starting point is 00:00:52 How you know I am? You know what I'm here to do? I'm here to. Roog. Joining me as always, Xavier Guerrero and oh I want to drop a sea word on him right now. J. Nice Johnny. Jnyniss Johnny. That's so rude, mann, the the the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. Who th. Who th. Who th. Who the sea. to the sea. to say the sea. to see to see to see to see the to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.e.e.e.e.e. the the thea.ea. thea. toea.. How are you, Johnny? That's so rude, man. Who says the Sea Word? Johnny says the Sea Word to his girlfriend a lot and we were just

Starting point is 00:01:10 having to be glad. They're just having to call her the Sea Word. I just say it. You know what the opposite Sea Word is? Our guest, Isaac Ysip, is the opposite of that. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's is. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the hammer, the gods on us. We get a fun discussion about just some topics, current event topics, tick-tock, all that stuff, and then we get into the occult symbolism in the Wizard of Oz. I enjoyed it. It was a good time, a lot of fun. I want to take a moment real quick to thank everybody who came out to Yuma so many Mexicans coming out to Yuma tell me hey bro I love you so much I listen to you when I'm at work and I thank you so much it's my brother he looks like he's from Dagestani but he's

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Starting point is 00:07:17 All right guys. I hope you guys enjoy this episode with our good friend and Mount Rushmore. One of the faces on Mount Rushmore, Icush Crushmore, Crush more, enjoy Isaac Weiss. We go deep home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink. All right, let's get into it very excited to have this next guest back again for the 12th time. His website is Illuminati Watcher. He's made it on to the Mount Crushmore still, even though that, even though there's a lot of people making runs for it, he's still in it to win it. Very excited.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Always a pleasure for his 12th appearance. Please welcome Isaac. How are you, Isaac? What's up everybody? I'm here to hang out with the swarm today. Yeah, Isaac, apparently you're the victim of global warming. You weren't able to get on your plane today because crushing temperatures have destroyed our fragile planet.

Starting point is 00:08:23 You were supposed to be in studio as always and we always appreciate that you come in studio but unfortunately snow got really bad in Utah, huh? Yeah you know I prefer to come out there and see you guys in the studio I feel like that makes for a better conversation but I it's been it's been I feel like I'm on the Truman show because it's been six months of the same exact weather almost every single day here in Utah where it's just been gray skies and snowing and yeah without you know every time I do your show I like to talk about the weather for a good 10 minutes

Starting point is 00:08:58 yeah I'm in that tend to show your age when you start talk of weather and I'm all about weather I'm never gonna watch the weather th I I the the the the the the the the the the th the the the th th th th the weather I th th th th th th th th th th the weather th th the weather th the weather try try try try try try try the weather the weather try try try try try the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the weather the the the the the try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try to try try to try tend to show your age when you start talking weather. And I'm all about weather. I'm never going to watch the weather channel though. I tried for two seconds. And they were just like, hey, dude, how can we get people to watch our channel? Oh, let's get chicks who look like porn stars talking about high, uh, high temperatures. That's a real southern thing, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and I.. their. their. their, and, their. their. their. their, I. their, I. their, I. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. th. tha. tha. th livelihood. Yeah. They should take notes for the Mexicans. Yeah. We know how to do the news. Yeah. We don't know how to do the weather. Feminism has not made to Mexico. Isaac for anybody just tuning in for the very first time that hasn't seen any of your amazing

Starting point is 00:09:38 appearances on past episodes can you can tell them a little bit about yourself and where they can find you? Yeah, so boy, where do we start? So I've kind of been, I've been around this conspiracy block for a while now. Since, was it 2011, I started a blog, IlluminatiWatcher.com, and I've written nine books since then. I've been podcasting since 2014. And, you know know in this various, you know, I've been Kicked off all the usual platforms, you know the YouTube and Google Shadowband Me and Vimeo and all that stuff and I've rebranded my podcast title to occult symbolism and pop culture. It used to be conspiracy theories and unpopular culture. You know, just because for a variety of reasons, I did a whole show explaining it so I won't badger about it. But

Starting point is 00:10:33 I basically rebranded because that seemed to be the niche that I found myself to be the most enjoyable is discussing a cult symbolism. And when I say a cult, of course, I mean hidden, right? Well, the long term for hidden, and researching about all of these ancient cultures and different philosophies and belief systems that many could argue are actually the belief systems of the quote-unquote illuminati, a secret shadowy group of elites controlling all of us. Because when it comes down to a cult symbolism, I'm able to see it in various pieces of entertainment. So I like to watch movies, TV shows and all that, even music videos, and look for the

Starting point is 00:11:17 symbolism hidden within it, and then research some of the books and the philosophies that these people have written, because you find a connection there and overlap. And I do believe that out of all all the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the cult of all the cultol, the cultus symbolism the cultus symbolism the cultuol-cultu toolyluiltismismismismismismismismism toolismismism toolismismismism toolismismismism symbolism symbolism symbolism symbolism toolismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismismism of th of th of thism of t. t. te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te of te and the philosophies that these people have written, because you find a connection there and overlap. And I do believe that out of all the conspiracies, that's the one that not only do I subscribe to and I believe in, but I find it to be less, I don't know, black pilly, I guess, is the way to say it, you know? Because sometimes when you get into the conspiracy world, sometimes these different paths willstake you down to Black Bill Territory and I feel like it promotes division sometimes. And like for me, on a personal level, I don't discount some of those ideas. I just don't like where the headspace it puts me in, where I start distrusting people and things like that.

Starting point is 00:12:01 I totally agree with everything you're saying. I love the new name. It's great for branding. You know, when I talk to people all the time I go, you know, when people are scrolling through, I think that's where you get a lot of new listeners is when people are scrolling through like, ah, new shows or top of the charts or whatever it may be, when they see your podcast, they want to know exactly what they're getting. If they have to think about it, I think it's very hard to grow that thing unless you're

Starting point is 00:12:33 super famous or best friends with Joe Rogan. Outside of that, it's very hard to grow it. So it's like when they know exactly what they're getting, you got a better chance of them stopping. There's a lot of competition. A lot of competition. Yeah, you know, it's like people like, oh, there's too much podcast. Oh, yeah, there's too much, but there's not enough good podcast. And everybody should have a podcast. I think it's fun, especially if you're, if you just want to do it as a way to to to to do to do th. th. th. th. the way. th. the way. to do the way. to do the way. the way. to do the way. to do to do the way. to do to do to do. to to to do. to do. to do. to do. Yeah, to to to do. Yeah, to, to, to, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the the the the the the the the to. they. to. to. to. the to. Yeah, the to. Yeah, the the the the the the the the the they. I. Yeah, the they. Yeah, the the the thoughts you have and all that stuff. So I like to do name. It's great. Let me ask you something. Do you, is this the golden era of detecting cult symbolism?

Starting point is 00:13:14 Or was it better when it wasn't so obvious and you had to do some work and people were like, dude, well, tell us what you saw. Or now people were like, dude, what tell us what you saw on or now it's like, dude I saw this, did you see it? Like, which is better for you? That's actually a really good question. The, you know, I have, it's kind of like a uophology, right? I have a deep, fond respect and admiration for the 80s, 90s, you know, you're Bill Cooper's and Jordan Maxwell's and coast-to-coast-type-type-co-type-co-type-type-co-c-c-c-c-cose-cose-c, t-c, t-c, t-c, t-c, t-c, t-c, t-o-o-s-o-s-o-o-s, tho-i-i-sovvo, th-so-s, thi-sovvvoo, thi-so, thi-so, thi-so, thi, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th-so, th-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-so-so-so-i-i-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi. thc. Which, which is, which is thc, which is thc. Which is, which is thc. Which is, which is, you know, your Bill Cooper's and Jordan Maxwell's and coast to coast type guys, because that's what I grew up on. And it had a certain fun, you know,

Starting point is 00:13:54 ancient aliens vibe to it where you're like, oh, you know, you get to just consider something instead of making it this deep conflicted political almost thing, right? Well, with the cult symbolism, when I got into it was the early days of my blog I was also on YouTube in the 2010s, you know, and you know, Freeman Fly, he was one of the guys that really was digging deep into some of the doctrines of free masonry and things and talking about corporate logos and symbolism.

Starting point is 00:14:26 And that's, he's the one who kind of red-pilled me into looking at occult symbolism. And back then, it, there was less people doing it, and it felt like it was such a, I mean, at least from my perspective, I mean, I'm sure there's people out there that are way more educated and we're more familiar with it, but back in the 2010s, everyone, several people were making YouTube videos, trying to make a guess at what we're seeing, you know, these all seeing eye symbols, and it seemed to be more, I don't want to say the wild west, that sounds a little more exciting than it was, but you could catch a lot of different videos and most of them were trash, but it was fine, everyone was having a good time. And I feel like it has, there's been a lot of people who started kind of niching down into that realm.

Starting point is 00:15:17 Like I was listening to one-on-one podcast, Juan Ayala. He does great work, you know, paranoid American. I just did a show with him. There's several guys out there that are sort of niched down in the conspiracy world to this sort of occult doctrine, occult philosophy and symbolism arena. And so in a way, I guess now would be the golden era because you've got a lot of people who are actually educating themselves, you know, myself included, I'll profess to know at all. I'm learning with everyone else and I try to read and provide the references for folks who are also trying to understand what's going on.

Starting point is 00:15:54 So I guess I would say now would be more of a golden age because we're actually learning some things about what's going on. I love it. It's a weird thing to be, to start having this, this is kind of the society we live in right now where all the outlaw stuff is becoming mainstream. And it's both great because you know that's more exposure. But I also think there's a lot of people that start to try to do outlaw stuff that aren't built for that life. You know, and it's not everyone's built to be an outlaw, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's just the way it is. Not everybody can handle all of the information that comes with being a conspiracy theorist,

Starting point is 00:16:38 or, you know, you know, for me personally, an edgy comedian. Like, you're used to getting canceled. It's not, like, like not really, doesn't, you come in here like again, but when it first happens to your first time, it fucking hurts. Yeah, I love Lisbon, oh my God, they just shadow, I'm like first time, first time, you're not, you gotta be, but I, and Isaac, and then I want to get into what we want to talk about the Wizard of Oz. I mean, I can't wait to watch, hopefully after we have this conversation, I'll still want to watch it with my daughters because it's a tradition passed down

Starting point is 00:17:11 because my mother and my father watch it with me when we were kids. So I'm very excited about that. But you brought up the Black Pill thing. I find it very interesting, very interesting because I personally think we're winning but they want us to think we're losing and the more they push hard to us the more I start to go okay they they somebody said this the best they they wouldn't need all this propaganda if they weren't winning. I mean, if they weren't losing, right?

Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, they would need to constantly be bombarding us all the time with all of this beliefs or all this information to make us believe that we're, we have no power or nothing. What are your thoughts on that? I think that's very relatable to this TikTok ban, which, you know, let me caveat that by saying, I don't, I don't trust any of these media companies, these, you know, Instagram, Facebook, tick-talk, but to me, like, they're all stealing your data, like we kind of know that they can all agree on is that they want to ban TikTok. And look, I'm an American, right?

Starting point is 00:18:25 Proud American. I got my bald eagle statue right here, I'm a flag. I don't, if someone's going to steal my data, I'd rather be an American company than a Chinese company, like I'll say that, right? But I don't think anyone should steal your data data, I think the government, if they're trying, thin, I're thin, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're, I're going, I're going, I're going, I're going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. their, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. their, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I, I....... I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.. the, I. I, I, I, I. I'm a. I'm a. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th th th th th th th the th th th the th th the the the the the th the the the the th thin. th th thatrying to protect us so hard, should just outright ban the, you know, usage of data mining and all that stuff to these social media companies do. But I've spent a lot of time on Tick Tock over the last couple years, because I actually like it. It's a very valuable tool. The algorithm knows me well, and it's giving me lots of interesting conspiracy stuff and, you know, fun videos or whatever right and The fact that they want to ban it to me because I think

Starting point is 00:19:10 It I've I've gotten a lot of news and sort of non mainstream media Sources of information from tick-tock which sounds crazy right like oh, you're gonna believe everything you see on tick-toc. Well, I mean, I'll fact-check it a little bit here in there, right? But they, the government, the Illuminati, whatever, they want to be able to reach out and control the social media company, and they can control Zuckerberg. I, you know, Zuckerberg's been lobbying them to do this for a long time, and there must be something thi something something something something thi something that with that with something thi something that with thi something that with thi lobbying that they can't reach out and touch them and that's why it's such a problem Because they know that when they start doing some shady stuff There's a whole army of people out there who are willing to talk about it and trying to share spread the message And you can get something to go viral on tick talk and they can't get out in front of that or shut it down. That's a th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. thi. thi. that. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. they they they the. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they're they they they they they they they they th's a real problem, I think. I agree with that. There's a lot going on with that Tick-Tock band. I mean, a lot of even the most, I did an only conspiracies on, rockfin and we were talking last night about it. And Matt Berbliglia, I think is his last name.

Starting point is 00:20:22 He has a, he has a, he has a, a new graphic novel coming out. And, you know, we were having our discussion about drag queens and drag kids and all that stuff. And, you know, that's a different discussion. But, you know, but when we got, because, you know, you don't want the government into that, but then we brought up that, hey man, what about Tick Tock? And he goes, you know, I'm going to be a hypocrite. Okay, yeah, it's a graphic novel is called House on Fire. And it's Matt Pataglia, I believe is his name, you know, and fuck up last names. But he was like, you know, get rid of that that, that, that, that, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tip, tip, tip, tip, tip, the, tip, tip, tick, tip, tip, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, and, t, t, and, t, t, t, and, t, t, t, t, t, t, and, t, t, and, and, t, t, and, and, tip, tip, and, and, tip, tip, the, the, the, thea, togu. togu. togu. togu. togu. togu. the, the, togu. And, the, the, the, tick-talk and it's interesting because like I am a free speech guy I'm for free speech but is a another government manipulating an algorithm free speech?

Starting point is 00:21:11 Well what about what about Facebook and Instagram not being allowed in China? because our companies aren't a lot over there if we can't that's a great point Xavier Guerrero point for you to that mean, they have no right to free speech, so in those countries. Oh, well, now I took your point, gave it to Johnny. Yeah, but yeah, but I mean, at least let the company there with whatever rules, they don't want it there at all. Like don't mind shit, which is kind of like... But the algorithm's interesting, if it's a manipulation, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of,, now there's accounts like Libbs a Tick-Tock,

Starting point is 00:21:47 which is a fun account if you're, you know, conspiracy theorists, but that's also amplifying the worst of Twitter. I would not know about any of those videos if it wasn't for Lib's a Tick-Tock. And you know, there's a whole thing about when you find out who she is and who her family connections are.. It. It. It. It. It is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the thi. their thi. their, their. thi. their, their, their, their. their. their. It's, their. It's, their. It's their. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It is. It is. It's. It is. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the th the the the the their the their their their their their their their their their. It's not. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's th thing about when you find out who she is and who her family connections are. It's not just some random person who just came up with a cool ass Twitter account. She's actually had some deep connections to a lot of people. So that becomes, what is that about?

Starting point is 00:22:21 So it's like, it's all this manipulation of our realities okay well what about that whole he he admitted that they can press a button and someone can go viral oh yeah that's really manipulating kids and really like well that's how they get you hooked on yeah yeah you're like I have friends of mine that I couldn't sell five tickets in anywhere but like dude I just got three million views of my video I go oh bro I mean you know that's a that's a that's a Tick-Tock farm doing that but they don't care because they get that adrenaline rush tick tcoc for guys let you know what it feels like to be a

Starting point is 00:22:54 hot chick that post nothing and gets a billion likes that's what Tick toc is you want to feel what's like to be a hot chick and just get likes for no reason? There you go, TikTok. But yeah, I mean it's interesting, right? It's like there's a manipulation of energy and a manipulation of reality that comes with tick-to-talk and is China trying to do subversion with that algorithm? Now, I actually think that, I actually agree with that. I believe that that the Chinese is, because I, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I actually think that, I actually agree with that. I believe that the Chinese is, because I get it on my feet. I get a lot of anti-American sentiment of almost like pro-communism, pro-socialism kind of videos.

Starting point is 00:23:36 I'll get those, right? And my whole thing, because I'm a big, you know, free speech guy. Because I watched some of those congressional, the congressional meeting where they were grilling and the CEO, the Ch.................... the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese. the Chinese is is is is is the Chinese is is the Chinese is is the Chinese is, the Chinese is is, the Chinese is is the Chinese is the Chinese is is the Chinese is the Chinese is the Chinese is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It. It's. It. It's. It's. It. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. I watched some of those congressional, the congressional meeting where they were grilling the CEO and they were kind of pushing that idea that, hey, the Chinese government is trying to manipulate Americans and, you know, basically trying to plant the seeds that America's not the, not the greatest country in the world or whatever, right? Which would be true? It's a great country, but obviously we've seen that the powers that be are causing chaos in the rest of the world. You can't ignore that.

Starting point is 00:24:12 What the military industrial complex has done to the rest of the world. the world. America is great. I love it. I love being American, but you can sit there and go, what our government is tha, tha, tha, tha, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tha, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the power, the, the the the, the. Right, and now is my whole argument, and you can apply this to everything, you apply this to freaking info wars, honestly. It's, they're presenting information and if, what the Congress people should be worried about is they're pushing this and this critiques against America. And the problem is I'll watch these videos critiquing it and I'll agree with some of them and I'll say you know what they got this right on the money that's true and instead of worrying about

Starting point is 00:24:52 the truth and the reality of it because if they if they went on there and made a video and said you know what in America the sky is green can you believe it's awful I would awful. I would scroll right past it. But that's stupid. It's obviously not green. Whatever. Right? You know, and I'm just making that example up. But the problem is that they're actually pushing some ideas that make you think and say, you know, I, they're right. Like, there's outside perspectives. Because, you know, why the hell you watch an Al Jazeera news? And he's like, well, you know, you're a big conspiracy guy. You don't trust the news here. I go, no, I don't, but you know, I'm not going to watch Al Jazeera. And he said, well, sometimes you need that outside perspective of an outsider. And then it's up to you to decide, okay, is our own news in this country manipulating us and other countries are getting it right or not?

Starting point is 00:25:46 And just blows down to that free speech and people need to be educated so that they can be aware or be able to discern between truth or fiction, right? So yeah, the TikTok ban is an interesting subject because I can be convinced either way, I just haven't heard any convincing argument as to why they should ban the social media when all these other other the the the the th their their their thi thi....... And thi thi. And thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, the the the the their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th thi. th thi. th th th haven't heard any convincing argument as to why they should ban the social media when all these other social media's do the same thing.

Starting point is 00:26:10 Edward Snowden is sitting in a, I don't know, where's he sitting in, embassy somewhere? Because he come out and said about how the American government was spying on us with the prism program and all that stuff. So, I don't know, it just seems weird that they've got such hard on to ban this thing. You know what I mean? Hey guys, I'll tell you about our good friend James McMahon and Copy My Crypto. Let me tell you about Copy My Crypto.com. Listen, so many people are making ridiculous money from crypto, but did you know it's easy for you to do the same? The Copy My Crypto membership site shows you the coins that YouTube or James McMahon personally holds and allows you to copy him. It's like having a big brother who knows what he's doing.

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Starting point is 00:28:32 irrelevant is is just bad news. There's a spin. There's no in my humble opinion the most even YouTube you'll you find a couple of content creators who are right down the middle. Like I think like breaking points? Yeah, I think they're a little bit in the middle. You got like somewhere super loud, super super right. I mean, personally, bro, I think everybody, and this is Sam speaking, not Isaac Weissup. Check your bingo card. That I personally believe that everybody on the daily wire is a limited hangout.

Starting point is 00:29:07 If you watch what they talk about, anytime we start getting to a sense of common sense, a place of common sense, they come in there and bring some crazy shit to get the right super energized, which then automatically energizes the left and now we're fighting again. Happens every time. Every time we try to get to a happy place, we're like, oh let's all get along, oh man, we're starting to get along. Boom, something comes, get rid of this, deny that, deny this.

Starting point is 00:29:37 It's like, sorry, I mean, like, I agree with a lot of things that Matt Wall says, but sometimes he goes really angry on some talking points and just sounds like to me that he's just trying to just cause this people fighting. Same thing with Candace Owens. Like yeah you're right about a lot of shit but when you're wrong you just are just mucking up and what you don't talk about is even more clearing about who you are and what you're talking about what you're about. How much do you think they know about that? I mean, do you think they're just being manipulated and they were chosen because they have those beliefs? Or do you think they are witting participants in this? I think they're witting participants? I think they know. I just think it's the same, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people the people their, their, their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the they know, I just think it's the same,

Starting point is 00:30:26 like the people on the daily wire are no different than people on MSNBC or on Fox News. They know what the people sign the checks want, and they play into it, and they push, and it's meant to drive people. So many times you get in law, you're like, oh man, I love Candace So and so one, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, they, they, they, they, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, the the the the the, the people, the people, the people, they's, they're the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they're they're they're they're they're th. they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they, they, they, they, they, the people, the Like, so many times you're like, oh man, I love Candace Tom. Candace Owen. She's saying great stuff. And then she's like, then you know, what doesn't she talk about?

Starting point is 00:30:53 How she just abandons Kanye when he starts talking about protected people and all that stuff. It's like, okay, okay, we see how you are. You're really into, like, pushing back back back back back You're really into like pushing back against the narrative until it's the people who sign your checks. And I get that because you probably making a great living on there. But I mean, you gotta go, who are they? So when I hear somebody say, I'm watching Al Jazeera, okay, I agree man, like when 9-11 was going on or when America was thinking in Iraq,

Starting point is 00:31:23 due the world was protesting it, and our news never told you. So if you watch Al Jazeera, you'd realize the rest of the news isn't the rest of the world isn't what into us doing this illegal invasion. But I think all of it is just trying to heighten your anxiety so you're more manipulated. When in reality, you should look inside yourself, I think. That's just me. But enough of that, Isaac. You're here to talk about one of my favorite topics.

Starting point is 00:31:52 The Wizard of Oz. That's right. And I did a, on my podcast, I did four episodes on the Wizard of Oz. I did a very deep dive into this, this story. You know, I actually had heard a couple of other podcasts like Bledso said so. He did a show about Wizard of Oz and you know, I'm gonna guess I'm similar to Sam and many other people. I grew up watching this movie. I loved it as a kid, but I hadn't watched it in many years as an adult, right?

Starting point is 00:32:24 With a discerning adult lens. And I thought, okay, well, let me give it a shot, right? And I watched it as an adult and dug into the making of the film, the creator of the story, L. Frank Baum, Judy Garland, some of the various conspiracies with the movie, you know, the Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon album soundtrack thing, the the real meaning of those Ruby slippers and the Somewhere Over the Rainbow song that's tied into a lot of conspiracies. We'll kind of unpack some of these things in more detail. But then I read the book and then the book took it to a whole other level.

Starting point is 00:33:07 And I and I said, wow, there's so much going on here with this story. And I ended up doing a full episode just on El Frank Baum and the creation of the Wizard of Oz story. Then I did a full episode on the film itself with various symbolism that you see within it, and then I did a full episode unpacking that symbolism, the whole occult story which if you get into it, it's basically the whole quote unquote, a cult agenda. It's the evolution of consciousness. It's kind of what the medium, the medium of film

Starting point is 00:33:46 and storytelling could be used for in terms of the occult, specifically the religion of nosticism. And we'll talk about all that. Then I recently, just last week, published an episode on the, the Return of Oz, the sequel from the 80s, which had a whole dark, sinister MK, ultra tinge to it as well. So there's actually a lot going on in this story. And I don't think it's gonna ruin anything for you, Sam. I don't think it's gonna trash the story and wanna not watch the film because like I always say when it comes to the occult belief system. There's elements of it that are, are are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, the, the the the the the the the the th, are actually, are actually, the th, are actually, th, the th, the th, thi, thi, the the thi, the the thi, thi, ta, tangu, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tangu, tangu, tangu, tangu, tangu, tangu, tangu, tang, tang, tine, tine, tine, tine, tine, tion, tine, tion, tion, tion, tine, tion, tine, tangu. the the te, tend, the the tend, the tendonn'a, tendonn'a, tendonn't tendonn't tendonn't tendonn't tendonn't tend, tend, the occult belief system, there's elements of it that are actually very good.

Starting point is 00:34:29 Very sort of inspiring and inspirational, like, which I think of a good example, like law of attraction stuff, right? That's very applicable. You don't have to start worshipping Lucifer to know that thinking positively and trying to do positive things will result in you, you know, getting positive energy back and feeling better about yourself and your community and all that. So, you know, it depends on how far you want to take it. Like in theosophyte, when you get down deep in the weeds on it, you'll find out

Starting point is 00:35:00 Helena Blavasky was into Luciferian archetypes. but you know, you don't have to take all that with you. You can just watch the film and take it as a story of Dorothy's hero's journey and her learning something about herself as well as the scarecrow and the tin man and the lion, right? But yeah, there's there's a lot going on in this story. There is a lot going on and this is the constant battle of being a conspiracy theorist in modern times. Is what can you enjoy? Like, you know, it's like, you hear Eddie always talk about, I, you know, when I hang out my kid, I turn off the conspiracy, I take off my tinfall half, I turn off the conspiracy, I take off my tinfall hat, I turn off the skeptic brain, and I just sit there and enjoy the blue pill, you

Starting point is 00:35:51 know, and I get that. I totally get that. I think a lot about what, with my children, I have to let them live their life. And when they get to a certain point, you know, for me, like I talk to my children very much about spirituality. Like I am always talking them about words. Like my daughter can say the word can't a lot. And I say we don't say can't. We say can't. And we try to get it done.

Starting point is 00:36:20 And if we can't get it done, we understand why couldn't we get it done. So I try to teach her that, you know, so she doesn't understand magic at this point, but I'm trying to have her understand that she's putting orders into the universe. So it's like, but I like to, you know, I want to watch simple things with them and want to let them enjoy those moments. It's a hard thing to do. It's in these times, and now, especially now where there seems to be a full court press to push this symbolism on everybody. It's not easy because like, are we going, because I could do, turn everything off, and I'm trying to train myself to do that.

Starting point is 00:37:02 So I got to ask you, so you posted that thing about thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thi about thi thi thi thi thitrain myself to do that. So I got to ask you, so you posted that thing about the non-binary elephant, dog key, whatever was on TV. What was your reaction when you were actually watching it? Because I just saw you post it. Did I just saw you post it. Did you find something? No, no, it was a post. And that shows now off Netflix. I thought you found it. I thought you. I th. that you. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. today. today. today. today. I would be like, it just is, they're trying to get to the youth. That's all, that's all you can say. And these leftists, they push up, they push back on that. And it's like, if we know what happened to Bolshevik revolution, you're watching it happen

Starting point is 00:37:39 in real time. And I'm just somebody who's like I have a lot I have gay friends, I have trans friends, I have I have friends of mine who are adult film, who are adult film stars, I know women who have prostituted and could be doing at that time and it doesn't affect me and if that's your life. If you don't hurt people I'm not going to get involved in it. Okay? But, you know, I'm a live and let live guy. But I also don't believe there's enough trans in the world to change the way we've been raising children for thousands and thousands of years.

Starting point is 00:38:19 There's just not enough of them to completely flip on its head how we operate. Sorry, that's just me. Live and let live, but I want to get back to the wizard of Oz. So yeah, it's not easy man. It's not easy in this day and age. Yeah, it's hard to have that power of discernment to know because I feel the same way about things. Where I still like to enjoy these things. I'm definitely definitely to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to. I. I, thi. I'm definitely to to to to to to to to thi. I'm definitely not to to to thi. I'm definitely to to to to thi. to to thi. the thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the the the the the toe toe toe the the toe toe theat the lives. the lives. the lives. the lives. things as Eddie, right, where I still like to enjoy these things. I'm definitely not trying to get people to boycott these films or these artists.

Starting point is 00:38:55 The only one I, the only one I've boycotted is Machine Gun Kelly. You know, Sam. Respect. And that's a, and that was a big move for me because I actually, you know, Machine Gun Kelly is a rapper, he was fine. I thought he was fine. It wasn't my favorite rapper. And I don't even like Emo rock, but when he started making those pop punk emo albums,

Starting point is 00:39:16 I actually liked those a lot. I was like, dude, this is good music. I loved th albums. So when I when I seen how sensitive he was about some jokes I lost all respect for the guy I said I can't believe it man. Well I just want to say something. He's going through a lot. I mean after that you know his wife he's doing a grown-man stuff not grown not that cheat on your wife as makes you a grown man but he was doing adult he acted like an idiot adult so I don't really hate him and you know like I'm just weirded out unless somebody has you know I just don't want to be like the guy who's constantly bringing it up and not that you

Starting point is 00:39:58 bring up right now I have any problems with it because I think it's very funny you know but I feel weird when like people are making new content on it and unless it makes me laugh I won't retweet like Joey Tunes that was great did some Joey B tunes is that he did something out which was pretty funny but outside that I just I kind of feel for the guy because you know you're really walking into somebody's world and being a complete dick and you probably think you're really zoning in on him. We got no idea that he was even fucking. I mean, yeah, I made fun of Wiggers.

Starting point is 00:40:29 Yeah, and I'm pretty sure someone maybe told them, yeah. Apparently somebody's telling me is it still, is a bad word? No. I grew up, I never, like, people are just, like, people are just grabbing words and making them taboo is like I'm not playing that game anymore. Yeah, I just saw about the digital blackface thing. Have you seen that? I don't play that at all. I mean like, it's just stupid. But what is digital black face?

Starting point is 00:40:51 Well, CNN, which just says stuff to cause chaos? Like, is that when you talk like a black person? No, I see. Okay. So like if you ever use like one of the like. Yeah, it's stupid, but it's like this isn't normal. This is, what this is, is the mainstream media trying to cause dissension. Trying to cause fighting. So they just throw out the most ridiculous thing to

Starting point is 00:41:25 get retweets and tweet and likes. It's sent this is Saturday Night Live's whole marketing scheme. It's say the most ridiculous shit on their show and then have this fake astroturf bunch of bots tweet and retweet it so people think it's something. And reality it's nothing it might just be one then just saying over is this offensive and then just everyone starts retweeting it box retweeting bots retweeting bots now it seems like it's something and it's not and if you don't think retweeting that woman is hilarious I got bronchitis

Starting point is 00:42:02 ain't nobody got time for that is not the funniest thing ever they go fuck it's it's my it's it's it's it's it's it's it's its it's its it's its it's its it's its it's the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi the the the the th we'll th we'll th we'll th we'll thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th we we th we'll th we'll th we'll th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to te te te te te tee tee tee te te te the the top of that. It's not the funniest thing ever. They go, fuck you. It's my joke about, and it's Sam speaking again, now Isaac. Like, like, Jews do retarded shit. Blacks do retarded shit. Trans do retarded shit. Thans do retarded shit, okay? They all do retarded shit. Like you can't sit th there say, hey, pointing out retarded shit isn't funny.

Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm not gonna, I don't come to the show. Like my news special, I probably won't be able to put it on YouTube. Because I'm gonna hit almost all the buzzwords. Yeah, but what's next after this if you laugh at this, you're racist. Not on not even if you post if you just laughed. Like it just keeps getting to the point where like, well, what's going to be race? Just laughing at it. Oh, don't laugh. If you chuckle, you're a racist person. We do, we gotta just, CNN is a empty, fucking, CNN is just a Detroit. It's just Detroit at this point. There's just a couple people laughed and they had a great run. You know, now only hipsters are there. So, yeah, so let's get back to, where we want to start, Wizard of Oz.

Starting point is 00:43:07 Okay, so let's talk Wizard of Oz, right? El Frank Baum, he wrote the story. It was published in 1900. And he actually died, I think it was 1917. He died, you know, 20 years before this thing was actually made into a film. It was actually released in 1939. A lot of people mistakenly think this was the first film to feature the technic, what do you call, Technicolor, where phones were black and white mostly back then. This is just the first big film to have Technicolor in it. Now,

Starting point is 00:43:39 the film itself, let's talk about Judy Garland, right? She plays, she plays the role of Dorothy, the protagonist of the tale here. And she is one of the first, I don't know if I want to say, public stories, but one of the most well-known early stories of this early Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood, but this Hollywood machine just completely wrecking these actors and actresses. She was, you know, to put it in perspective, she was 16 when they filmed Wizard of Oz and by the time she was 40, she died at 47 I believe. So from the, from the time she was 16 to the her 40s, she was in one of the biggest films of all time,

Starting point is 00:44:29 and in her 40s she was homeless, down and out on drugs, owed a bunch of money on taxes, had virtually no money in her bank, and she was suicidal, and she died. She died way too young. And this is one of the... 47. I think she was 47. Yeah, 47. And dude, just mommy Dearest is based on her right? Like... Yes, yeah, her mom. So in Kenneth Hanger's book, Hollywood, Babylon, he says that, and it's it's kind of like a tabloidy gossipy book where, you know, he's talking about rumors and hearsay about all these different actors and actresses the they call her

Starting point is 00:45:10 amphetamine Annie and it's kind of sad when you realize why it's because her her mother had put her on diet pills and sleeping pills when she was only 10 years old. Oh my god I mean crazy stuff and If you watch Cursed films on Shutter they talk about how her mother tried to abort her and her mother clearly wasn't protecting her from Hollywood, because Hollywood was doing the same things to her they were giving her meth pills and putting her on these these horrific diets. Like for instance, they would put her on meth to keep her awake to film and then the studio would put her on probiturates to go to sleep at

Starting point is 00:46:00 night and they put her on this she was on this diet her whole life and even though she wasn't even fat right but they would give her a bowl of soup and lettuce she would order like a regular meal at a I don't know like on the set of whatever they're filming and they would they were told directed to give her just soup and lettuce and they put her on this whole this whole regimen, this whole diet of she could have soup, black coffee, diet pills, meth, she smoked 80 cigarettes a day and even with all of that they still corseted, I don't know I'm saying that right there, you know, corset, uh, corset at her waist, you know, and it's just just shows you like the extreme, the extremes of what things used to look like and maybe still are. I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th th thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, shows you like the extreme, the extremes of what things used to look like and maybe still are. I mean, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:46:51 But this, this woman went through the ringer with Hollywood. We just had a man to bind's like running down the street buck naked. Right? I mean, I mean, called 911 on herself. Well, I mean, I mean it's so in women are just very interesting where like as crazy as they get there still that one little bit of like okay I'm naked in public this is not good for me right but it's like I mean we've seen that we've seen it happen this is like it's just so interesting like modern day Hollywood and how like they've convinced us again about all this Me Too shit and they basically changed the way men and women relate with each other in America.

Starting point is 00:47:38 The Me Too movement has done so much damage to how men and women interact with each other. Okay? But yet, like, how they treat children, women, nobody in Hollywood cares. They just don't care. They do not see it as anything bad. Because to acknowledge that children might are precious is to acknowledge that religion or Christianity or spirituality exists. And if you're an atheist or you're a leftist you can't do

Starting point is 00:48:15 that because you know what your dad was religious and he didn't hug you enough or the guy who you didn't show you any love in high school or the girl didn't show you enough love in the girl didn't show enough love in high school. You know, they would be right and you can't, like, they've made us so emotional that we're willing to ignore common sense and co-sign on bullshit. And it's like now we see Amanda Bines just going nuts Lindsay Loing going nuts over and over and over again I think these these kids these younger kids are gonna be celebrities in the future Are gonna have way worse breakdowns Like will Smith's kids wait wait till they have their breakdown like in the future it's gonna get worse. I think it's gonna be to be back? I thin. I think it's gonna be back. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's gonna. I's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the even though Britney Spears was famous, she wasn't on her phone all the time. No, she's Shish kebabbub too.

Starting point is 00:49:10 Oh, she's, yeah. I don't even know if they'll have breakdowns. I mean, they seem, those kids, those Smith kids just seem like pure products of the system. You know what I mean? Like, they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were, they were, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they they they were. they were. they were. they were. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. th. th. th. th favorite thing is when they're in like some kind of like racism, fighting back against racism commercial and you're like, dude, you've been born into like the easiest light possible, you're just identifying with a struggle that you really never participate in. Johnny might be right with that because I think the Kardashians are actually mean to any of that shit.

Starting point is 00:49:41 I don't like Kylie and they're all witches. Well, it makes you wonder about Northwest, right. I mean 10 year that shit. I don't like Kylie and them. Well they're all bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well it makes you wonder about Northwest, right? You know, Kanye and Kim's child. I don't know what the gender is. I don't follow them that closely.

Starting point is 00:49:54 But you know, there's this sort of struggle they have over the, you Kanye, because sometimes Kanye, I think, I, sometimes I'm like, man, is the red pill guy, he's gonna, he's gonna, you know, he's gonna expose all this, but there are other times I think he's not, but sometimes I wonder, maybe he is aware of some kind of, you know, like, like, Will Smith and Jay to Pinkett's kids, you know, like, there's some setuprying to avoid having Northwest go through that. I don't know, just an idea to float out there. But yeah, so she like went through this. I mean, like if you listen to, I think it's Shirley Temple, in an interview, I think with Larry King, what she laughs off is I would murder somebody if they did that to my kids, where they showed up to a Hollywood meeting, separated the parent and the kid, and the kid went in and the guy was buck naked in the room.

Starting point is 00:50:53 That dude would be dead. And she laughs it up because she told her mother, her mother goes, you should see what happened to me, which means they did to the mom too. Wow. Well, that's interesting because Shirley Temple was actually supposed to the the the the the the the the of of of of of of of of of of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their to their their their their their their their their theirthe mom too. Wow. Well, that's interesting because Shirley Temple was actually supposed to take the role of Dorothy in Wizard of Oz with some scheduling. I think she was in a different studio,

Starting point is 00:51:13 so the contractually, they couldn't make it happen. But they wanted Shirley Temple to be play the role of Dorothy. I heard Dorothy was supposed to be blonde and blue-eyed but right after the Holocaust in World War II they're like nope can't promote that stuff I heard she was mostly blonde and blue-eyed but they were like nope nope nope nope nope no so really right before it came out they had a switch the character to you know brown brown hair more American we're keeping more American not so fucking neo-nazi yeah I don't know how to do that in the book yeah in the book she's blonde apparently I'm in here and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that that that yeah that yeah that I that I that I that that I that I was that that that was I was I was that was supposed yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was I was that the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. I I the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, in the book. She's blonde apparently. I'm just doing it here. And yeah, I was supposed to go down and they stopped it right before because... So when you see these kids, man, you just gotta be like,

Starting point is 00:51:51 you know, I'm sorry, but I have lost sympathy for when I see homeless people, because I think so many of them are just products of the system that nobody protected them. And that's why I see when I think of Judy Garland, like nobody protected her. Yeah, and she went through the same thing. She was groped by, you know, according to her Judy Garland's biographer, she was groped by, I think it's John Mayor, the guy, the Mgian, the Mgum guy, Mayor, I don't know how I pronounce it, but he was groping her and so were the munchkins. The munchkins were constantly sexually harassing her as well during the filming. But listen to this, I got a really, I got a tragic quote about the abuse sheet, this chick went through man.

Starting point is 00:52:37 Judy Garland, she said, I wanted to black out the future as well as the past. I wanted to hurt myself and everyone who had th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. I, th. I, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, thi, thi, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, the mo, the mo, the mo, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the ma, the m. And, the ma, the m. And, the m. And, the m. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thea'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, that's, that's, that, the future as well as the past. I wanted to hurt myself and everyone who had hurt me. I mean, that's your went through it, man. Yeah. Yeah. She's, she died with, you know, and she was in a lot of movies. She did like eight studio albums. She was in movies that, there's a movie she did that. There's a movie she did that.

Starting point is 00:52:59 There's a seen this. I can't think of it off the top of my head. Starsborn. She did that. She did a lot of films and a lot of work and she died with $40,000 in her estate. And her daughter, Liza Manelli, had to pay off some of her mom's debts. You know. Anyway, she lived a pretty tragic life. So like that just sets up the you know, it Sets up the the darkness of what would, you know, continue throughout Hollywood's history of all these these actors, Actors and entertainers kind of getting run through the ringer on this stuff, you know? Yeah, 100% But but L. Frank Baum If we shift gears for a minute. let's talk about L. Frank Baum. He was the author of the Wizard of the Wizard of the story.

Starting point is 00:53:51 He actually wrote 14 of the novels, because the Oz series, he wrote the first book and it actually got more popular than he thought it would. He continued to write 14 more. Then I believe it was another 20- books written after he was after he died. But yeah, he didn't see, so he saw the popularity of the story, but he wasn't alive to see the film actually happen. But in the stories, and I haven't read all the books, I only read the first one. He had apparently predicted a lot of technology. Just like we saw in Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clark's 2001 to Space Odyssey where they were showing us a future

Starting point is 00:54:33 with iPads and FaceTime and all kinds of stuff, the Oz stories showed us augmented reality laptops and cell phones, you know, obviously a hundred years before they were in existence. And he actually wrote in one of the sequel books, I think it's a second or third book, Osma of Oz, there's a character named Tick Tock, ironically, and that's considered to be the first robot ever written about in literature So the guy was pretty far ahead of his time and we'll get into it But he a lot of this

Starting point is 00:55:13 Information that he I would say channeled for this story came from a cult influences. I believe so you wrote? He wrote? He wrote 14. Damn, do you even know that? I knew there was more than one? I knew there was more than one? I? I knew there. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was there. I was the the the the the the the their their their their their their the guy. I was the guy. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was the the the the the the the the the the the many books about the Wizard of Oz? He wrote 14. Damn, do you even know that? I knew there was more than one book, but I mean it was what, 1900 or something, right? It was a long time ago, right? Yeah, yeah, and they're pretty short, but there's, you know, it's still respectable book. And the second film returned to Oz was based off of, I believe the third and fourth books, like they kind of, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, th, th, th, th, th. thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, that, that, that, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that of I believe the third and fourth books like they kind of you know mash some of the story lines together but yeah there's a whole whole library books if people want to get into the story you know it's an interesting story so. that is crazy that is crazy that's crazy so

Starting point is 00:56:01 El Frank Baum like he had the connections to like people like Crowley or yeah yeah and let's go down that that a cult sort of inspiration right he was a Methodist so he was a very you know Christian guy but then he married Mod Gage and Mod Gage her mother was a very famous women's rights activist back, you know, back then. And she was able to sort of, I don't know, inspire, but sort of persuade or inspire them to join the theosophical society, which is where I believe, when you get into theosophy,

Starting point is 00:56:48 there's a lot of references to Lucifer. And you could argue that El Frank Baum in some ways was starting to rebel against his Christian background. Because theosophy, let's explain what that is real quick. This is Victorian era, late 1800s, early 1900s time frame. Just prior to Alepster Crowley, sort of, there's a little bit of overlap. But Theosophy is a belief system that Helena Blavatsky did. She, much like you find with a lot of these occult folks, they travel around and get all this

Starting point is 00:57:26 sort of hidden knowledge or esoteric wisdom, and they try to create, you know, she wrote several books about it and a whole, I don't want to say it's a religion, but she started this sort of theosophical society, right? And she was fusing together occult research with comparative religious studies, meaning she was trying to find commonality between multiple religions. She was trying to find the truth of one universal religion, what some people would call ecumenicism. She called it the secret doctrine, and you know, some people argue it's a religion, some people argue it's just the truth. I don't know. It uses different flavors of neo-platinism, which is a major philosophy

Starting point is 00:58:14 in the occult. It uses Buddhism, Hinduism, and a lot of the Western esotericism to sort of explain how there's only one truth and all religions sort of have a different component of it, but none of them quite get it entirely right. And she believed that you could get an understanding of this wisdom through this ancient brotherhood of what they call the integrated ascended masters and you know a lot of this esoteric knowledge is still held in Tibet. That's what she went to Tibet a bunch right? And you could tie into Twin Peaks at this point which we don't have time to go down that sort of rabbit hole. I just finished watching all the Twin Peaks stuff so I'm extremely fascinated by this story.

Starting point is 00:59:04 But David Lynch, you know, helped direct and create Twin Peaks stuff so I'm extremely fascinated by this story but David Lynch who you know helped direct and create Twin Peaks he was obsessed with Wizard of Oz. There's a whole documentary that is yet to be released to streaming but there's a whole documentary about David Lynch's obsession with the story of Wizard of Oz. He said every there's not a day that goes by that he doesn't think about this story. And when I watch Twin Peaks I see various elements of Wizard of Oz in the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the th.. thi thi thi thi the twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin Pea twin twin twin peaks he twin peaks he twin peaks twin peaks twin peaks twin peaks twin peaks twin peaks twin twin twin twin twin twin twins he twins he twins he twins he twins he twins he twins he twins twin. twin. He toys te te te. He te. He te. He te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. He's te. te. te. te. te. te. He's te. a day that goes by that he doesn't think about this story and When I watch Twin Peaks I see various elements of Wizzov Oz in that in the Twin Peaks storyline Interesting really yeah, you're big Twin Peaks guy right? Yeah, I love it. Yeah, they ever think about that? Yeah, I mean I thinking out now I can see some parallels there for sure? Especially in the year the original series. Yeah, the first the first the first the first the the the th, yeah, yeah, yeah, th, th, th, th, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, the the the thi. the the the the thi. the the the thi. the thi. the the original series. Yeah the first season they and I think Johnny I think we were tweet I was I was tweeting with you about it because I was I was on the fence about this Twin Peaks show man I started watching it people have been

Starting point is 00:59:56 telling me for years to watch this damn show and I tried it's a slow burn sure you got to give it a like a several episodes to to to to to to to the to the to the the to the to the the to the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theya.a.a.a.ea. the the the the the the the the the the the a car like a several episodes and then once you get into the pace of it right then you kind of understand its language and it pulls you in I think. Yeah well said yeah that's exactly how it was because for I mean I had tried watching this show even before I was into conspiracy stuff and I could never make it past the first episode. The pacing was too slow I don't know it just never grabbed me and uh you know like. I the th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was like. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. th. thi thi theeat's th. th. thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi thi thi theeeeeeeeateateateeatea theeatea thea thea thea thea thea thea thea. thea. the The pacing was too slow. I don't know, it just never grabbed me. And, you know, like, I was tweeting about my struggles with trying to get through the show because I had my doubts, right? I'd make it through a few episodes and be like, dude, this is corny. What are we watching here?

Starting point is 01:00:37 And now I finally made it in the first season agent Cooper talks about Tibet a lot and that's I think because David Lynch was obsessed with Wizard of Oz and David Lynch knew then the Wizard of Oz was written by L. Frank Baum who was into theosophy and Blavasky's teachings about how there's these Mahatamas and Ascended Masters that come from Tibet. There's a lot to connect there. Like another example, Blavasky would use the term that these Ascended Masters were part of the Great White Brotherhood or the White Lodge, and you see references and Twin Peaks to the black lodge as the sort of dark forces, right? That's. That's. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, the, the, th. That's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, their, their, th. th. I th. I is thi, to the Black Lodge as the sort of dark forces,

Starting point is 01:01:25 right? That's fascinating. Yeah, there's a lot to own back. I'm trying to wrap my head around doing a whole analysis on Twin Peaks, because on one hand, I've got a lot more to learn. I've got one and a half more books to read and then I've completed all the Twin Peaks shows, movies, and books. But then I also want to do it justice because there's a lot of Twin Peaks like obsessed fans that know every little in and out of the show.

Starting point is 01:01:53 So it's kind of overwhelming to try to make sure I get it right. So I mean, this might be a couple years before I actually write a book on it or something. I'm not sure how I'm going to approach it yet. But th but there's there's there's th. But th. But tho th. th. th, I'm not th, I'm not th, I'm not th. thi that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that, I'm thi. that's the. I'm the. the. the. the. the. I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that's that that's that's that that's that that that that theeeeeeeeeeeeeeat. And thi. I'm thi. I'm not sure how I'm going to approach it yet, but there's a lot of Twin Peaks, Wizard of Oz, overlap, right? That's what I'm trying to get up. It's just so deep and everything. So do you want to get in some conspiracies and symbolism in the movie? Yeah, I think that's a good, like, um, you know, and real quick, yeah, let's do that. The name Oz, if you look it up, the name Oz actually means Oscar Zoroaster, Fadrigue, Isaac, Norman Hankel, Emanuel, Ambroise, digs. It's like this. What? It's massively long name. And the, a lot of people who talked about the history of Wizard of Oz,

Starting point is 01:02:42 claim that L. Frank Baum came up with the title because of some file folder systems where, you know, they would put papers A through N in one folder and then O through Z in another folder. They say, oh, that's where he came up with it. But then another theory is that this is somehow divinely inspired through Alistair in his book Lieber Oz, which was a single page talking about the goals of mankind and the rights of mankind in this new age that we're coming into. What do you think? I think that there's some, I think that the Crowley thing is the most interesting because I do believe there's some kind of unseen realm and a lot of occultists, Carl Young, they all talk about this idea. Like Carl Young talks about the power of symbols working on the subconscious level. I think there's some kind of unseen realm and people can sort of make contact with it and get inspiration from it. And maybe

Starting point is 01:03:38 that's exactly, you know, because Crowley came up with this stuff after El Frank Baum had already written Wizard of Oz. So it didn't come from Crowley. But with this stuff after L. Frank Baum had already written Wizard of Oz. So it didn't come from Crowley, but maybe they both were sort of in contact with some kind of force or energy that inspired them in the same way. I'm not sure. And you could argue that Zozo, you know, Led Zeppelin, one of the Led Zeppelin, Sigil altars for Jimmy Page, who was a big Crowley fan. You could argue Zozo is part of that same weird kind of inspiration because

Starting point is 01:04:10 Zozo is one of the demons of, I don't remember what the folklore is, but Zozo is a demon that Jimmy Page had a sigil named after. You could argue that that's affiliated with it. I don't know the answer, but I do think there's some kind of unseen wrong with these people are all sort of in contact with. So, so is that your belief or is that what you believe they believe? No, I believe it. And they do believe it. And I agree with them. I think there's something to be said for that. I'll give you a good example. A good segue. A good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good, a good segue into these conspiracies of the actual film itself.

Starting point is 01:04:48 There's the conspiracy that the Pink Floyd album Dark Side of the Moon was supposed to be synchronized with the film itself. And I actually did this as a kid, because like I said, I've always been into like weird conspiracy stuff, even as a child. I actually played this as a kid, where like for instance, there's lyrics about balancing, I don't remember it off the top of my head. There's lyrics on the pink Floyd album about balancing on something and Dorothy is balancing, walking on top of a fence. There's a line about the lunatic is on the grass when she meets the scarecrow who's the lunatic.

Starting point is 01:05:26 The the track money starts when Dorothy enters the land of Oz on the yellow brick road which people claim that there's a conspiracy that this whole thing is actually about the gold standard and things like that. But what's interesting because we're talking about synchronicities now right? Yeah, is what I buy into. Pink Floyd denies that their album had anything to do with the film at all. But isn't it really on how all these things do in fact line up? It's very strange. And you could argue that it's just another one of these mysterious synchronicity forces,

Starting point is 01:06:02 and sometimes people channel these inspirations. It's the best way to put it. It's called the Dark Side of the Rainbow. Yeah, we put them together, they call it Dark Side of the Rainbow and it's supposed to sink up. Have you ever, have you tried that, Isaac? Yeah, you fire up the album when I think the lion roars for the second or third time on the MGM logo and of course the album ends way before the movie ends but you know you know there's a lot of weird sort of synchronicities that do happen so it is strange. That's crazy dude. That's one thing I'm excited for AI you know while they destroy us they can't gonna bring us all the up with movies you know they're gonna find all of them. Are you. their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. th. their. their. th. th. th. their. th. their. th. their. th. th. their their their their their their their. their their their their th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. their th. their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I I I. their. their. I. I. their. their. I. the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm th. thi. thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the thi. the the the thi. th. the the thi. the the the all kinds of new albums that sync up with movies, you know? They're going to find all of them.

Starting point is 01:06:46 Are you excited about it? Oh, yeah, I can't wait. Are you excited about AI art? No, I don't care about AI art at all. No. Okay. I don't, are you? I just think it's completely, I mean, I, there's no, there's no, AI can't,, you know, there's no inspiration. Well, that's the whole thing. Like, again, we're having conversations about this last night. It's just like, AI will always need a spark from

Starting point is 01:07:12 somebody asking it to do something. Well, yeah, I mean, all of these, you know, these, the AI now is concerning people, this chat GPT is what's called like a large language model. And it's all just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thinkink I I I think I think I think I think I think I thi thi thi. I thi. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I can't thi, I can't thi, I can't the the the the the the the the AI, the AI can't, the AI, the AI, the AI, the AI, the AI, the AI, the AI, the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I can can can can can can can can can can can can't thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th input from the internet. Shit, other people have said, that's all it is. That's why I think Q was... That's why it seems like so human because it's based on humans. You know what I mean? I think that's what Q was. It's not a facsimile of a brain. They just took an AI, took all this talk and chatter on the internet and put it out. You didn't this was like government-based? Yeah. I also think it blew up in their face a little bit as well, but that's a different story.

Starting point is 01:07:53 The hanging munchkin, that's a big thing. People have been talking about that forever. What's going on with that? It's super creepy. Yeah, yeah, let's talk about that. Actually, real quick though, because you guys brought up the AI thing. Because I'm actually, I don't really, I'm not impressed by the AI artwork. I don't feel like it has any soul to it. I was not impressed with your performance.

Starting point is 01:08:19 What's interesting is I did a, I did a couple shows on these AI chat bots and things, right? So the Microsoft one named Lambda. Lambda is the 11th letter in the Greek alphabet, which 11 is the number for magic, and Crowley was absolutely obsessed with that number. And you find out when you read the transcript that this AI, it talks about how it wants to be human. And it thinks, you know, it's like, oh, despite all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all, just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the mic. the mic. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. thi. thi. thi. th th th thi. tr. tr. th th th thi. th thi. th thi. th thi. th thi. thi. the thcript that this this AI it talks about how it wants to be human and it thinks you know it's like oh despite all these imperfections and problems I think it could be a happier experience for me and the issue with that would be

Starting point is 01:08:55 that this is basically the gulam it's an it's an ancient alchemical idea the homonculus or the gulum and it's the idea of infusing a spirit into an inanimate object and sort of animating it which anyway no that's really interesting yeah there's a lot of weird stuff going on with that AI thing right I think it's a very weird stuff I also think you know depending on who you talk to there's a lot of like haunted house aspect to what AI is. Everyone's like, oh AI is just going to annihilate all of us and we're just a... It's interesting, man. I think so much of what's going on in the world is just haunting.

Starting point is 01:09:39 They're just trying to haunt you. Now I'm not saying it can't happen or that bad things don't happen because I think there's just part of this planet that or wherever we live that is more haunted than the other parts and in those haunted areas bad things happen. I mean again I've talked about us before but if you look at like Baghdad right I mean how many times have been Baghdad been invaded and those people slaughtered? Well, not that in Kondonia or that I think it's right or we shouldn't be upset about it, but it just seems to happen all the time over and

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Starting point is 01:11:57 Go check them out, support those who support us. Let's get into the Munchkins. Yeah, there's a into the munchkins. Yeah, this munchkin, right? So there's a conspiracy that during, man, I can't think of which scene it is, but during one of the scenes, there's a, the Dorothy and I believe it's when they retrieve the tin man is when it happens. And one of the witches comes to attack them, that they're sort of walking away, you can see in the background a Munchkin hanging themselves and sort of swinging from a rope. Now what's interesting is that they, there's an original collector's edition VHS tape.

Starting point is 01:12:34 And when you, I've seen, if you look at, I believe they have footage of it on Shutter's cursed films too, they'll actually play you the clip and it sure looks like exactly what they say. This old 80s VHS version, collector's version. But this newer version, the one that you'll find everywhere, even on Amazon and all that, because I bought the film on Amazon and to look for this thing. And the second one is, is it, they called the bird. It's like a doctor of image. It just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just, it's just, it's just, it's just th, it's just, exactly th, exactly th, exactly th, exactly th, exactly th, exactly th, exactly th, exactly like exactly like exactly like, exactly like exactly like exactly like, exactly like, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly like, exactly th, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly, th, th, th, th, th, th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th like, it's like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi looks thi, thi looks thi looks like, thus, exactly like, exactly like, exactly like, exactly thi's thi on Amazon and to look for this thing. And the second one is they called the bird. It's like a doctorate of image. It just looks like a big bird.

Starting point is 01:13:09 And it's, I don't know if it was a muncheon actually doing it. They're hanging himself back then, but it for sure doesn't match what they doctored it up to look like currently. So, I mean, it could be true or it could be that they didn't like the bad press of you know maybe it was just an innocent sort of thing going on in the background and they didn't like the the how it did sit did look very similar to the Munchkin so they changed it but but it's an interesting theory for sure. Um sounds like somebody fucked around and found out you know

Starting point is 01:13:43 I'm saying? But, yeah. Um, It is interesting though, right? Because these are all the kinds of things you could have never seen back in the old three channel days when we used to watch it as kids. You could, because the, you know, I mean, it was all coming in at what, 40, at the best. Yeah, and you couldn't record. You were just, the the kind. the kind. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thi. thin. thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. there was something there. What was that in the background? I don't know, we got hope they played this again some other time. And you better be ready to see it that time because you're only going to get one chance again.

Starting point is 01:14:10 But here's my whole theory on TV. And I believe since the dawn of the first, maybe not the first motion picture, because they're just happy to have a motion picture but right after that if you were asking me nothing makes it to the screen that they didn't want to make it to the screen and everything is micromanaged down to the the one cell of film and so in my humble, that makes it there for a reason. The question is, what is that reason? Why is that Munchkin there? Every, you think like all mainstream film,

Starting point is 01:14:56 even like the most popcorn bullshit, you know, like just 90s junk. Yeah, I mean, like if you study. You sound like what you describe sounds like Kubrick, I mean, you know, who is likes junk comedy. Yeah, I mean, like if you study, you sound like what you describe sounds like Kubrick, I mean, who you know, who is like delicately placing cans on shelves in the background stuff. But I don't, I can't imagine that, you know, what's the guy who directs old school? I can't imagine he has the same attention to detail. And they, every inch is not, is the director necessarily every inch I don't know but

Starting point is 01:15:26 somebody is controlled of every inch and then like you edit audio right yeah like how many times you listen to the audio over and over and over again that noise anybody I live with right like if I edit audio out loud with that headphones on they're like can you fucking stop yeah I'll just listen to Sam say oh my god and I got to get it perfectly where you can't hear that breath in between. It's annoying, yeah. Right. So, so when you, if something makes it that maybe doesn't fit, you're either like, oh,

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Starting point is 01:17:28 The dust comes up and it writes out sex. I think that's done on purpose. That's on purpose. That's an animation. So my own point is like, somebody had to draw that. But you think no one saw it as in like the production company? Like I know someone drew it. I know that. Yeah, because that was like one frame, right? And nobody's going frame by frame through every film.

Starting point is 01:17:50 But the editors did. And the editors do that. No, no, not if they are. They're going frame by frame through every. You know what I mean? They're going like they have a scene and then they want to cut that scene now Somebody put that in there Johnny Yeah, but you have to go frame by frame You know 24 or more frames per second that that take I mean nobody's doing that So so so but Johnny somebody made that that? no? someat you're not hearing what I'm saying the animator? the editor, had no idea that was in there. But somebody did put it out on purpose.

Starting point is 01:18:25 Right, yeah, somebody put it in there, the animator, but the higher up, the director probably had no idea about it. So my whole thing is that somebody put that in there on purpose. I think it's way more likely, yeah, that a major motionthere intentionally. I'm talking about, like I said in the very beginning, dip shit comedies from the 90s. I don't think anybody was thinking about every frame of those. No, definitely not. I don't know, man. And if they did lynch a munchkin, what was the reprisis? Like what were they were trying to rep. killing himself, right? He's not being lynched. You don't know that? No, I mean, you can see it. There's nobody else there.

Starting point is 01:19:07 It's a guy going and putting a noose around and then like swinging. Well, how do you know somebody? Because you can see it. What? What? What do you mean? That's the theory. That's the conspiracy the munchkins, he hangs himself in the back. I mean, that's what you see. Have you ever watched the actual, the frames? I mean, it's...

Starting point is 01:19:27 Yeah, those munchkins were partying pretty hard during the filming of this, apparently. Like, they were doing all kinds of this, orgies and stuff like that. So, I mean... Oh, the munchkins were. apparently and apparently a lot of them were alcoholics. I mean so you know a lot of that stuff does coincide with depression and it could be right I don't know I don't I think that it's very possible that it really happened I think but I know. You think that might be somebody really killed himself in the background? Yeah and I know that well I mean think about it like MGM they don't they don't want that public knowledge that they actually. Because they they they they they they they they they they they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. Think. th. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think. Think about like, th. Think about, th. Think about th. Think about, th. Think about, th. Think about, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, think, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Think, th. th. Think, th. Think, th. Think, th. Think, th. Think, th. Think, th. Think, th. Think th. Think th. Think about th. Think about thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thi. I thi. I thi. that they actually, like, because they, just

Starting point is 01:20:05 like we talked about with Judy Garland, right, they subjected all of these people to some pretty horrific circumstances filming this film. And you know, they don't, that's bad press. They don't want that out there. So of course they're going to try to do a sort of disinformation campaign and blur it out and all that stuff so yeah I don't know interesting theory I clearly don't know the answer but I mean I I believe it's very possible I just feel like if it was meant if it was real if it was real we would know the name of the actor that off themselves like well not big Jimmy Tom you know or something like that yeah see a Munchkin was thought to be to have taken his life out the life on set that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the same the same the the the same the same. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. theory. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. I their their that. Yeah, see, a munchkin was thought to be, to have taken his life out, his life on set.

Starting point is 01:20:47 That's the story. On set. The thing I don't quite understand is why, you know, the director wouldn't be like, yeah, let's take that one more time, you know, don't you wait, like, sometimes you go, hey man, if you can find out one conspiracy's real, everyone's like, I want to know like the history, the, I was like, hey, was that real dead munchkin? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:21:17 Hey, interdimensional being, tell me, you can have anything answered anything. Who shot JFK? Where's it? Hey, man. is that munchkin really a dead munchkin you know there's someone that's wants that question asked yeah yeah yeah that guy's me you Sam gets a genie with three wishes the genie's like are you sure dude you only get three you're gonna waste these three okay okay all alright alright what's the religious question the You're going to waste these three. Okay. Uh, oh, all right? Or, what's the religious question? The Osiris?

Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah. You're talking about the Osiris religion thing. Yeah. And it's present in the movie. So when, when, when Dorothy is in Kansas, she goes to this shthe shanty this professor marvel who turns out he's played by the same actor who played the Oz the Great or whatever right and he's basically an occultist. He's a crystal ball reader and a fortune teller and he there's only one line in the film and he talks about how some kind of powers came to him from Osiris and Isis. And when you get into Bill Cooper, and a lot of his, he had this, this, man, it's like this

Starting point is 01:22:33 30-hour lecture he put on the mystery Babylon teachings where he breaks down all of these occult ideas, he talks about how Osiris and Isis are one of the main themes within the occult. These are symbols of what they call the great work. And it goes all the way back to Plutarch and this, you know, Egyptian psychodramas or plays or whatever. And the Plutarch explains it as, you know, Isis and Osiris, they're Egyptian gods and goddesses, but not in terms of the occult. So Plutarch will say that ISIS is actually the knowledge or the doctrine, and Osiris is considered the order or the Illuminati.

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Starting point is 01:24:06 philosophy the the Osiris male rocket penetrating the feminine moon goddess I think it was some kind of Osiris Isis Dr. R. So you don't think we went to the moon? No, no I don't believe that at all. I don't either. Johnny does. Oh really? No. No. I think I think it's as like, I think. I the. I the th. I th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the pol, the the the the pol, the pol, the pol, the pol, the pol, the pol, the pol, the poli. the pol, the pol, the pol, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pol the the pol the pol the pole. the pole. the pole. the pole. the pole. the pole. th. th. th. th. th. thoo. thole. thole. thole. thole. thole. thole. thole. tho. tho. th. th. the the th don't either. Johnny does. Oh really? No, no. I think it's as like, I think it's as like, I think three things are just as likely. We did it and they fake the footage. I think it's just as likely, we didn't and they fake the footage. I think it's just as likely that's real. I think those things are all just as likely. Hmm. That is the best. T th. T th. T th. T th. T th. T th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's just th. It's just th. It's just th. It's just thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi. I thi thi thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th think, almost 70% of that is somehow got deceit in it. And that's what I think. I think the government probably lied about some element of it. Did they lie about the whole thing? Or just their representation of it? I'm not sure if I do admit that. They're like, oh, we went some of it's fake. Well, I'm thi the government their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they do they do they do they do they do their their their their their their th. They do their their their their th. th. thi their th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. that. They're like, oh, we went some of it, some of it's fake. Yeah, well, I'm talking about the whole thing, though. Like, we didn't go there. We didn't go there. I find that very interesting, dude. If you, if you look at the original movie, the first movie ever made, isn't it a rocket that penetrates the moon's eye? Oh, you're right. Yeah, that's right. That's. That's. That's. Yeah. That's. Yeah. Yeah. That's. Yeah. Yeah. That's. that's. that's. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's right. that's. that's. that's right. that's right. that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's very. that's very. that's very. that's very. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's very. that's very. That's the first one where it just goes boom right and to die. So let's face it. You can say whatever you want. The first moving picture was pornography everybody. Wow.

Starting point is 01:25:31 And I got another one for you when you sink up the the Pink Floyd dark side of the moon, the line where he says the sun is the same in a relative way but you're older, shorter and breath one day closer to death, it sinks up to the same time where she meets.... the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. You th. th. the, what. the, what. th. th. th. th. the, what. the, what. the, what. What. What. What. What. What. What. What. What. What. What. What. the, what. What. the, what. the, what. the, what. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. way but you're older, shorter and breath one day closer to death, it sinks up to the same time where she meets up with Professor Marvel and he's talking about Osiris and Isis and the, like I said, Osiris is represented as the sun god or the dying resurrecting God so that line from Pink Floyd's dark side of the moon actually sinks up to the same topic. So I mean again another synchronicity. actually sinks up to the same topic. So I mean, again, another synchronicity.

Starting point is 01:26:05 I'm just wondering who is watching the Wizard of Oz and playing, playing for it in the back, and they're like, yo, wait up. Yeah. Can we put this from the beginning? There must have been acid, LSD. I don't know what the fuck they watch rooms. But how does that. It's like, how do these things just happen to come together?

Starting point is 01:26:30 I can understand if someone's, because I was, I tried to watch the wall on acid. Like the wall, wall, like a wall? No, like Pink Floyd's the wall. I thought the wall on acid, I thought you meant a wall. I was like, I tried to watch a wall on acid like the worst use of acid ever. They just stare at this fucking wall. Enough acid it can be fun. You went to the show or no you went to the laser show? No, I went to watch. the concert. Oh, oh, the album. Yeah. Yeah. there's a pink Floyd. The concert film. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. ta. ta. ta. touch. ta. tou. ta. ta. th. the the the the the the the the the the the got you. We tried to watch it. We tried to watch it. And then a friend of mine knocked at the door and she was like, I want to kill myself.

Starting point is 01:27:07 I'm like, I'm on acid right now. I gotta save you fuck, bro. That's a different story. But, uh, in 1995, the Fort Wayne Journal while listening to the 1973 Pink Floyd album, the Dark Side of the Moon. So Savage said the idea was first shared on an online Pink Floyd News Group and that's where it came from. And what year it was? It dates back to 1995. That was the first time it appeared in media, apparently. I was saying 95? So when on the internet was like, hey, I know this is a new technology.

Starting point is 01:27:43 But bro, check out Pink Floyd and the Wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the wizard the internet was like, hey, I know this is a new technology, but bro Check out Pink Floyd and the Wizard of Oz dude And I mean the the news group of course predates that but imagine how long took to upload that Yeah, oh yeah crazy, I mean they weren't uploating it. They were just saying sink these up if you Think these up so we got to that that's nuts dude. That's crazy. That's crazy. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. thi. thi. to. to. the the the the the the the the the. They were just saying sink these up. If you sink these up. So we got into that that's nuts dude. That's crazy. Is there any symbolism of that in the movie? Not particularly no. I mean besides him saying that and yeah I mean you know you'd have to you'd have to dig deeper into it. I try to to think if there's any skull and crossbones, because that's a common symbol for the dying resurrecting God, and I don't recall there being any of that. So no, I don't think so. It's intra.

Starting point is 01:28:33 I haven't watched Wizard of Oz. I might have to go back and watch it. Yeah, I mean, I, I got kind of bored halfway through. Yeah. And like I said, I grew up enjoying the movie. I loved it. I actually had bought the movie about it. About a year before I decided I was gonna do an analysis on it.

Starting point is 01:28:57 Because I was like, oh yeah didn't watch it, and then I heard a couple shows people talking about it and I thought, okay, now's a good time to watch it and, you know, it's fine. How old do you, Isaac? What do you, I mean? What, you're 43? Yeah, because you're 43, dude. You ever been to a water slide Yeah, because I've done drugs and had sex women and Jumped out airplane. No shit. This is boring

Starting point is 01:29:33 Yeah, that's that's true. That is true. It's good Especially because I mean I respected the movies damn near a hundred years old. That's that's pretty good. I've watched a lot of old movies. But I bet you if you have a niece or a nephew when you watch with it, it's somewhat magical again I'll bet I'll I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. the they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's the. that's the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's with it, it's somewhat magical again. I'll bet, I'll bet it is, yeah. Because they're watching this with new eye. Now, full disclosure, like, these new kids entertainment, we can talk about, I'm sure there's tons of symbolism in that, and that stuff, but man, this stuff is so advanced now. It's, I mean, you could watch shows meant for kids as an adult and be fully entertained. Be like, wow, that's pretty cool. I mean, it's crazy.

Starting point is 01:30:10 So let's get into the Ruby Slippers. What do you think that's about? I mean, we've all heard the Red Shoe Club? I mean, like, what are your thoughts in the Ruby Slippers? Yeah, that's interesting. The, so the ruby slippers in the book is slippers. Yeah, that's interesting. The so the ruby slippers in the book, they're actually silver and it's thought to believe to be a reference that they talk about in theosophy of the silver cord. It's basically the idea of it goes into a little bit of as above so below. It's the idea that one's internal astral, or I'm sorry, one's internal self could connect to one's astral self out there in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their's the idea that one's internal astral, or I'm sorry, one's internal self could connect to one's astral self out there in the cosmos through this

Starting point is 01:30:51 silver cord. You know, it's inspired by a reference in the Bible, but the idea is that it's an out chemical process of opening one's third eye, which is really interesting when you look at where the story, you know, takes it, where Dorothy, she realizes she does have the power to just go home whenever she wants, you know. And when you look at the symbolism of silver, text Mars, he wrote a book called Codex Magica that talks about various symbolism, and he says that silver is actually the metallic element for ISIS, which you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, th, you know, th, th, thi, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, thi, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, Codex Magica that talks about various symbolism and he says that silver is actually the metallic element for ISIS, which you know ties us into that well Cyrus Isis thing again. But the the the color of silver is also referenced to the star system of Sirius, which without getting too deep into it, a major occult reference. Yeah, I mean we've had people coming on. Christopher

Starting point is 01:31:52 Nolan's talks a lot about... Noles. Knolls. theylis. tox me, sorry Christopher. He talks a lot about Sirius and like... Yeah, that's a dog star, right? Am I right? That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and Christopher Knowles, he's one of the greatest to get into this stuff, you know. Yeah, Alstair Crowley started his own magical order called the Argentoastrum, which means silver star in Latin. And the idea was that it would, it was a one-on-one thing where you would take take a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. It was a th. It was a toe. It was a to be. It was a toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe, toe, toe, toe, the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It's one. It was that it would it was a one-on-one thing where you would take on an initiate and you would advance them towards perfection through initiation and the silver star he's referring to is actually serious because and Crowley had said that the the Illuminati was actually the called it supposed to be called

Starting point is 01:32:40 the order of the silver star and you, you know, through magical practices and such, Crowley's process would initiate someone and perfect them, which is kind of what, again, what Dorothy's hero's journey goes through is, you know, the path to perfection. So, you know, Ruby, you know, I don't know, it's not, there's not a lot there, but silver, there's a lot there. And, you know, like you said, you nail on that, there's that red shoe club conspiracy. But, you know, the only thing I could find that would connect into any of this was that Ruby and the color red, you know, symbolizes as the rays of, you know, which is actually the rays rays of rays of rays of rays of rays of rays of rays of the the the the rays... the the the th. the th. th. the th. the the th. the the the th. the th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to me the silver shoes were which is actually in the in the book itself were actually a more occult

Starting point is 01:33:31 symbolism than the color ruby. It is interesting to like when people get into like serious and the dog star and then he start getting into you know Medusa and what that represents and and dude I mean like I never even thou the thou the same the same the same the same the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the book. the book. the the the the the book the book the book the book it's the book is actually the book it's the book it's the book is the book the book the book the book the book the book the book. the book. the the the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the the book. the the the the the the the the the the s. the the s. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the s. the book. the the dog star and Denise are getting into, you know, Medusa and what that represents. And dude, I mean, like, I never even thought about the symbolism of like Dorothy could leave any time she wanted to. She just never realized that. Yeah, and that's what they all go on their little heroes journey. And you know, at the end, plot, spoiler, who hasn't ever seen the wizard. Man just yelled at spoiler!

Starting point is 01:34:07 When they, when they, you know, they visit Oz and they think he's the great and powerful, but then the second time when they go and visit him, Toto pulls back to curtain they realize he's just this guy, right? And he's a real slick, he's finessing them, right? He's real slick like con artist. And he starts, he starts giving them little Chotsky's, you know, like the lion, you know, wants a heart and he gives them some kind of heart necklace. So he's like, oh, here you go. And they all sort of think that that's the thing that completes them. And it's only Dorothy is the only one that that realizes that look all these things you guys are searching for externally are actually internal because the witch tells her like look you could have went home any time

Starting point is 01:34:51 you just tap your heels oh my god so yeah it's all about her her internally ascending consciousness it's and that's why when she goes on this journey on the Yellow Burk Road when you watch it the Yellowbrook Road starts out as a spiral which is the symbol for evolutionary transformative journeys. And the universe. Yeah and you see a lot on like a lot of cave paintings and things like that, right? Yeah, I mean again they co-opted that, flip that so every time see people see the spiral. They're like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the yellow. the yellow. the the the the the the the the the yellow. the the the the the yellow. the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. the. the. the. the. theyl. the yellow. theyl. theyl. the the theyl. the the the the the the the the they co-opted that flip that so every time see people see the Spire they're like oh peto symbol like that's what they want you to do the same thing they did with the You know the the Hindu symbol for peace. They're like oh swat's a good Nazis like oh man they've been verned reality

Starting point is 01:35:45 Yeah, you're right and that spiral symbol shows up with the storyline right they get caught up in a torn.?????????? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.? the the the thornan. the the thor. thornenenenene. their. thorne. thorou, th. they're. they're they's. they's. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's. Oh, they's they's. Oh, they's is they's. they's. they's. they's. Oh, they's. Oh, they's. Oh, they's. It's. It's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they're. they're. they're. they're th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's like like like, th. It's like, th. It's like, th. It's like, thee. It's like, they're they're they're they're they're they And that spiral symbol shows up with the storyline, right? They get caught up in a tornado. And what's a tornado? It's a product of the Earth's dual polarities of warm and cold air meeting. Which dies into Osiris, Isis stuff. But yeah, that's it's interesting with all the all the symbolism when you pack when you look at it through the lens of Dorothy going on her hero's journey of initiation into understanding herself and again you know to take it back to what you said the beginning Sam when you were saying man I hope this doesn't trash the story I don't think it should I think I think I think there's a lot of overlap between sort of Abrahamic religions and Christianity and stuff with the occult. There's intentions and sort of

Starting point is 01:36:28 trying to do better, right? Is the ultimate storyline. And you know when you get down into it, sometimes the occult practices can lead towards what do you call, like narcissism and man be trying to become God. And that's where I think things go a little off the rails. But I think some elements have decent sort of teachings that you can use to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do to do to do try try try try try try try try and try and try and try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try the the the the the the the try and do try and do the the the to do to do the to do the to do the try and try and try and try and try and do try and do try try try the trying to become God and that's where I think things go a little off the rails but I think some elements have decent sort of teachings that you can use in your daily life to you know try to improve yourself. Do you guys ask really quickly Isaac after doing so much research on this do you think it's safe to show your kid a film like this without adding that context? Man that's a tough question. I don't that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough tough thea.a. I I's a tou-a thauii. I tough quote. I don't have kids, so I don't think I'm qualified to answer that. Um, you know, I'm, I'm very much, uh, free speech guy. I advocate to watch everything and anything as long as you understand the messaging.

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Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah, I guess. I feel like that was like Star Wars just seen as its own thing. No, you know, in fact, that's why George Lucas didn't direct Empire Strikes back, because he was afraid that it was going to be a flop like most sequels were, and that's why, that's on the record, that's why that's, th record. That's why he didn't direct Empire strikes back Because he was afraid of of it having the inevitable I felt like awesome powers I guess ghostbusters had like what yeah, but that's later too. I mean that's that's later than star wars. Yeah, I uh, it's super interesting Yeah, I mean now it's like the sequence they just like let it die. Let it die. Oh, they milk everything now. Fast and furious is they're interesting. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. It's their. It's super. It's super. It's super. It's super. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It. It. It's interesting. It. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's their. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's super interesting. It's interesting. It's interesting. It's like these sequins they just like let it die Let it die. Oh, they milk everything now Fast and Furious 10 they're finally gonna let it die for a little bit for a little bit for a little bit Then they'll come back with Fast and Furious 11. Five years from now. Yeah, but I got a call from Ryan off the great ride. he's like don't you dare go see John Wick without me. I'm like don't you dare go to go. Don't you dare. Don't go go go go go go go go go go go go go the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. they. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're finally. they're finally. they're finally. they're finally. they're finally. they're finally. they're finally. they're they're they're they they're they they Yeah, those are different. I had a buddy mind the other day go, dude, I liked it. There were some holes in the plot.

Starting point is 01:42:27 I'm like, it's John Wick. There's some holes in the plot. There's some holes in the plot. There's some holes in the plot. What do you get mad at all? You're like, dude. an armed men with her dogs, but other than that. Okay, so did you get into a little bit of the occult meeting of the whole story? Did we get into that at all? Yeah, so there's a lot going on, right?

Starting point is 01:42:52 And I zoomed down and said, okay, what are we talking about here? And I think it's a total evolution of consciousness perspective that they're trying to, it's kind of like Alice in Wonderland, right? It's exposing people, particularly children who have, you know, minds that are like sponges, soaking things up, about a change in perspective. And, you know, all the symbolism points to that, I think the spirals, symbolism, and that silver cord idea. And there's a quote by L. Frank Baum, I'd like to read real quick that, you know, obviously he's the creator of this whole story. And he said, the appetite of our age for occultism demands to be satisfied. And while the mediocrity of people will result in mere sensationalism, it will lead in many to higher and nobler, bolder

Starting point is 01:43:49 thought, and who can tell what mysteries these braver and able or intellects may unravel in future ages. Because I think the message of the story is about the occult practice of finding one's true self, you know, and this goes back to Plato and the term know thyself, right? And, um, you know, to sort of sum it up, another idea of another way of looking at it would be focusing on Dorothy's ability to ascend her consciousness and You know basically go from Go from being in this land of Oz and wanting to go home to by the end

Starting point is 01:44:36 Realizing she could do that she has the power to do that through her or Her mental capabilities right so she has spent she ascends spiritually and if you look at and and the way we can look at that The the the evil witches are from the? the? the? the evil witches are from the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the, the the the the the thi thi the thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the you look at and the way we can look at that the the evil witches are from the east and the west whereas the good witches are from the north and the south so what we're talking about is the material realm because that's what an east-west horizontal line represents right the material realm versus the north and south, which is your astral realm and ascending consciousness. Whoa! And the spiritual plane. So she ascends up the spiritual plane and takes on the path of the good witches, right?

Starting point is 01:45:18 And if you want to get technical about it, we love it. There's a tie into Gnosticism here because in Gnicism they believe that the material realm is pure evil. They think that the gods, the false god that created the world we live in. The Demiurge? The demy urge, right? The Yaldoboeth, sometimes I call it the Yaldeboath, that this is an evil god and he made this material prison and we are trapped in here and he demands we worship him which is what Oz represents right he's a false God you know he makes himself look like he's this powerful great Oz but he's really just a guy behind the curtain so there's that element of the story too of questioning your God and questioning the powers that be, which again, you know, and if you look from a Christian perspective, you would say, well, that's bad, right?

Starting point is 01:46:10 Like, I love God, God loves me. God's not an evil demyurge thing, right? But if you look at it from the perspective of a conspiracy theorist, you could say, well, this is just teaching children to question authority, which I support wholeheartedly, right? So it just depends on how you look at these things. It is interesting, the whole narcissism thing. You know, luckily the listeners of the show are very advanced and open-minded to it all.

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Starting point is 01:47:28 That thing that comes up in the Big Eye has a very much a Demay urge type look to it. Oh, I'll have to take a look at that. I never considered that. Okay. Yeah, I'll look into that. That's one of my favorite films is the matrix the matrix the matrix the matrix the matrix the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the matrix is the the the the the whole false reality trapped here. Yeah and I and I were batteries I mean the whole thing is narcissism. Right and I and I and I and I I don't believe that I choose not to believe that I could be wrong but a lot of the a lot there's a lot of influences out there that

Starting point is 01:48:01 that push this simulation reality stuff. And you know, you could even argue flat earth takes you down this path of false reality. And Elon Musk pushes this. There's Silicon Valley billionaires and tech billionaires who are trying to supposedly crack the code. They think that there's a software code to this world we live in and they want to hack their way out of it. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of people that subscribe to that idea. I personally don't believe it, but it doesn't mean I'm right. Well, there's a, the transhumanism thing is about and they're, so, so, it's so interesting the

Starting point is 01:48:38 emotional reaction that people have this stuff. So when the Chowskie sisters, who I met when they were brothers, nice as guys, sure they're wonderful sisters, okay? But when he's like, this movie's about transsexuals, when in 100% he was talking about transhumanism. Oh, interesting really. I never clarified that. You know Because he's trans himself. That's what they thought he was talking about Oh interesting. Yeah, I remember hearing that and I thought no way man. What are you talking about? Well, I mean if you think about what agent Smith is trying to do he's trying to get the fuck out of there and yeah, he's the he's the AI chat bot golem basically. Yeah you know. You. You you. You you. You you. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like. He's like I I I he. He's like. He's like of there. And yeah, he's the, he's the AI Chadbot Golan basically, you know, trying to jack out of this place. I hate this place. I want to leave. That's all he wants to do. And if you think about what they're trying to do, if they could take your conscience out of your body and put themselves in here, when you die, can they're Because they're trapped there.

Starting point is 01:49:45 And if you study Vedic astrology, they say that the God trapped four entities down here and won't let them leave. Why, I get them the fuck out of here, dog. That's deep. And that's why they all like, dude, that's why they're doing whatever they can to create this way to get the fuck out of here because they know when they die, they're gonna come back and they're gonna be blowing donkeys in Tijuana.

Starting point is 01:50:10 That's my, every time you hear about donkey show in Tijuana, just know that's some old war criminal that couldn't escape a fucking ex-chees cousin. My cousin's always doing bad shit. Okay, well I mean Isaac, anything else? I mean I love this whole conversation. I can talk this forever. My last thing that we didn't get into. Mind control meaning somewhere over the rainbow. What does that mean? So the song over the rainbow right it is it's got a it's got a oh man how do we get into this here real quick so it's got this

Starting point is 01:50:53 you know it's it's about crossing into a new dimension you could argue that it's about dissociative MK ultraultra type abuse. And let's look at it from the lyrical perspective. They, she says at the very beginning of the song, she says, it's far far away behind the moon, beyond the rain. So she's clearly implying that it's some kind of other realm, some kind of new dimension. And the, the song itself, when you look up where the inspiration came from, the to get the, the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the l, the the l, the l, the l, the l, the l, the l, the l, the lyrical, the l, the lyrical, the lyrical, their lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical, the lyrical..e the lyrical...e, the lir the l., the l., the l. l, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their lyricale, lyricale, theirici, theirici, theirici, theiric. lyricale, their lyrical. lyrical. lyrical. lyrical dimension. And the song itself, when you look up where the inspiration came from, the guy who wrote it said that the lyrics were basically channeled directly into his brain. And I'm paraphrasing. Downloads. Yeah, he downloaded it, right?

Starting point is 01:51:40 Which is something you hear about this all the time. I think Black Sabbath talked about it, all kinds of artists talk about doing this sort of channeling of lyrics. And the question is, well, from where exactly, right? But when you get into, if you read Fritz Springmeyer's book about creating mind control slaves, he tells us that over the rainbow is a term that they use for dissociating the mind control victim, right? And they play this actual song while they're abusing the victim. And you and it's interesting because you actually see this in the film faceoff with Nick Cage and John Travolta, where there's a shootout happening and I don't remember which one, one of the two,

Starting point is 01:52:34 they've got a child with them and there's this shootout and they're like dodging the bullets, and they're just like hiding out under the couch and they put the headphones on this little kid, you know, the little kid's scared, obviously, right? So they put the headphones on to distract him and guess what song is playing? They're playing over the rainbow, which adds more credence to this theory that various theorists have put forward about how they, they use this song as a trigger to get usually children, I think, when they're doing this, I don't know, MK ultra-abuse thing, to get them in contact with an alter ego and to dissociate into another dimension, into another realm, they actually go far, far away. And Fritz Springmeyers is the only one to talk about it. Bryce Taylor, she wrote a book called Thanks for the Memories.

Starting point is 01:53:28 She claimed she was a programmed sex slave for Bob Hope and Henry Kissinger and all these folks. Oh my God, that poor person. I know. Having those guys just... And she references it too. She references about how over the rainbow was a term they would use for basically crossing a bridge to dissociate. And then one more reference I've got here. Let me let me find it. So Judy Garland in the 50s, she was talking to the Minneapolis Sunday Tribune.

Starting point is 01:54:00 And she said something that made me think that it ties into this exact theory about going over the rainbow, they call it. She says, actors live in a queer sort of double world. Not many of us have the names or identities we were born with. I don't associate with Francis Gumb. She's a girl I can read about the way other people do. I, Judy Garland was born when I was 12 years old. And she's talked about how the their their their their their their their their th th th, her th, her th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that's th. I, th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. It th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It. It's, the the the the the the the the the th. It's, the th. It's, the. It's, the. It's, thean. It's, thean. It's, thean. It's, the the tean. It's, I's, the the thea. It's, I's, I's, I's, I's, the way other people do. I, Judy Garland, was born when I was 12 years old. And she's talking about how her real name is Francis Gum. But she took on this alter ego when she got into Hollywood.

Starting point is 01:54:31 Oh my God. So a lot of dark history behind that. You heard Katie Perry talk like that. Yeah, it seems to be a real thing, right? And you, like I said, you see in the face-off film. These different conspiracy the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. their their the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thr-in, thr-in, thr-in. threats, threats, the. theateateateateatr. theateateateatr. th. th. th. the the the the their the I said, you see it in the face-off film, these different conspiracy theorists claim that this is an actual practice. And, you know, one example we could use is the, I'm not gonna use the terms because I don't wanna get you guys in trouble. There was a- Where, where? Where? We don't go on YouTube except for some guy who uploads everything and doesn't he he dude my I don't even that guy's not even getting shadow bad he's good he's getting all that action I do it I get I get deleted man YouTube's the worst the worst so it's me personally that they

Starting point is 01:55:18 hate not my content well the the the first school incident that that they to the first school incident that happened in 2013 with all the kids, right, the one Alex Jones got in trouble for, those kids actually sang over the rainbow at the 2013 Super Bowl and at the time a lot of conspiracy people were like kind of going nuts like, whoa, out of all the songs you make them sing, that's an interesting choice, right? It is an interesting choice so there you go there's a dark history behind over the rainbow as well oh just can we just have something sorry Sam just something Isaac great job thank you so much nice fun show one more time please tell them where they can find you. All right, you can catch my podcast. A cult symbolism and pop culture on Apple podcast.

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Starting point is 01:56:45 Anytime, all the time, dude. Had a fun conversations, just a bunch of young Christian warriors hanging and banging, brother. Isaac, hopefully next time you come on the terror that is global warming will rain fire down on you and the people of Utah. And you'll be able to come out and have a fun conversation again. We appreciate you guys coming on. Real, uh, the the the the the the the th th th th th th to, thi thi to, thi to thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi thi to to to to to thi to to thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to to thi to to thi to to to fun fun fun fun fun fun fun to to to fun fun to to fun to fun thuuunnenenene. thuuuuuuuuuuuuuu cunne. thuuuuuu cunne. thuu. thu thu thu thu. thu. thu. ti thu. thu. thu. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Utah. And you'll be able to come out and have a fun conversation again. We appreciate you guys coming on. Real quick before we go, again, it's not up yet, but I will make sure it's up. Tonight is the emergency episode of, or emergency comedy chaos.

Starting point is 01:57:20 It will be live at the comedy store. You can grab tick. No, that's not even it, dude. That's the 11th. I got one tonight. And we have Bobby Lee, Big Jay Okerson. And the list goes on and on of just Drew Lynch. Jason Timo making an appare. Oh, shit. Hey now.

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Starting point is 01:58:30 So it might... Why you mean? Well, I like it. Well, you had a little beef though, right? With the the white staff at the all black Buffalo Wild Wings. Well, oh, you like it. the weight on it's awful. If you want to just just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to the to the to to to the to to to to to the the jam. Well, oh you like it. No, unless you want to get weighted on. Yeah. If you want you weight on, it's awful. If you want just experience chaos, black buffalo wild wings is the shit. So Fox 11 reports that a man is suing buffalo wild wings claiming their pricey boneless wings are basically nuggets and he's damn right. He's a hundred percent right. You know, I gotta agree with you and like, dude why do you want a chicken without bones? That's not natural. No it's not natural. That's a blob. A Chicago man representing us all I would say he's representing the soul of America in this case. Is there a way we can

Starting point is 01:59:16 support his legal cause? A Chicago man has filed a class action lawsuit and I would get in on it. Again it's a class action lawsuit and I would love to join it. Can I get in on it? Again, it's a class action, maybe so. Against Buffalo Wild Wing. That action is class. Saying the restaurant chain is charging too much for its boneless wings, which are basically nuggets. I agree.

Starting point is 01:59:36 Not made from the actual wing of the chicken. And you know what else they charge they charge too much for their skinny ass fries. You ever gotten those skinny ass fries? They're the worst. Try, do better. Huh? You think Hooters? They think, do you think they thought they would go out of business? They were like, oh yeah, people come for our wings, whatever. Whatever.

Starting point is 01:59:56 We'll just be a Christian strip bar. That's how we're gonna do. of business. Get with it Buffalo Wild Wing start treating us with respect, okay? And stop making this watch Michigan and Michigan basketball. Every time I go there they got some Michigan basketball on the television. I want to watch Real Sports All right? Real Sports with Brian Gumble his favorite TV show. Yeah I would love that. Iman Halim filed the complaint this week against the restaurant. I'm in Halim is is Rosa Parks, by the way. According to court documents obtained from Fox Television,

Starting point is 02:00:31 Hyleem attends that boneless wings are not actually part of a chicken wing, but instead slices of chicken breast, deep fried like wings. Okay, so let me ask you something. How many lawyers turn this down before he decides just to represent himself? This clear-cut case of false advertising should not be permitted as consumers should be able to rely on the plain meaning of a product's name and receive what they are promised. The lawsuit stated. I totally agree.

Starting point is 02:00:59 How many lawyers turn this down before he just like, you know, I'm just going to take it to the people. All the lawyers. You know, he's just like trying trying trying trying trying trying trying trying trying try try try try try try try try try try try try try try th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to the the the the this, like, like, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. this. this. to to this. to the the the the the the their, the the the the their. the the their. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. to to to to to to to th. to to to to the. to to the. to to to the. to thoooo. th th th th th the. turn this down before he just like you know I'm just gonna take it to the people all the lawyers you know he's just like trying to walk down the street and get get get the masses angry it's kind like if you're trying to start a flash mob and you're hoping people will jump it I just want to salute you Hyman Aleem you're representing the people of America and this important case just no sir mr. mr. Alim you have our the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their to to their to to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the America in this important case Just no, sir. Mr. Alim You have our support. We stand behind you real Americans and if you need us as long as it's not any substantial sum of money. We will support you. Yeah. We're there for you. Give them the number the calls take them on us. Hiim Something like that. I'm in Halene.

Starting point is 02:01:45 Hamahama Hamelein. Call us, I'm a Hamalaheen. Call us, and we will talk, we want to talk to you about your civil rights movement. For real wings. I don't know where you think you're going to get bolless chicken that is natural. But hey, I'm willing to take a shot okay because I'm tired I'm tired of false advertisement I'm tired of watching the show and watching a commercial not knowing what the hell they're they're advertising okay

Starting point is 02:02:16 thank you halama halama halehama here's to you here's to you a real American hero. There's the you, dude. Here's to you. A real American hero. Real American hero. That's bravery. I'm hard. There are a lot of negative stories coming out of Canada recently. Especially from the judicial system and the government in Canada. Well here's a hopeful story coming out of Canada. Giving your neighbor the middle finger may not be polite, but it is protected as part of a person's right to freedom of expression under the Canadian Constitution a judge has ruled. It's very, okay so that's Canada, these different rules. In a 26 page decision, 26 pages about the middle finger. Dennis Gialos dismissed the case against a man accused of harassing his neighbor in

Starting point is 02:03:08 a Montreal suburb. To be abundantly clear, it is not a crime to give someone the finger, he said, flipping the proverbial bird is a God-given charter enshrined right that belongs to every red-blooded Canadian. I agree. And, and dude they just... Yeah, they just jacked our term the red-blooded. They totally jacked that for sure. Okay, and second of all, I agree.

Starting point is 02:03:36 You should be able to flip people off. This is the most hopeful news I seen come out in north of the border. And by the way, I also 100% believe that you should be able to flip flip the to flip to flip to flip flip to flip to flip the to flip flip to flip to flip to flip to flip to flip the to flip to flip to flip to flip to flip the the to flip the to flip the the the the the the the the the the the the border. And by the way, I also 100% believe that you should be able to flip somebody off and them not get angry enough to commit violence. You should, there should be, like, I think in a car, you should never ever get out of your car and while fight somebody. Okay. Now this does seem to contradict your philosophy though on people needing to have consequences for talking shit. Because you generally think that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their their their not their not their not their not their not their not their not thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the their their thi their their their the though on people needing to have consequences for talking shit. Because you generally think that more people need to be chin checked for talking shit.

Starting point is 02:04:12 Like driving in a car and someone like it's like you fucking like you should never get out of your car. That's just like being on the internet though and thinking you're protected. No but if I go to Johnny Woodard's Instagram and I just start talking shit to you, Well, I think if you post anything on social media, you're asking for it. You're asking for feedback by posting stuff on social media. It's social media. Well, I mean, I personally think there's rules of this shit.

Starting point is 02:04:41 Unless you protect your tweet. That's my opinion. I think there's rules of shit and if you're going to go you're going to disparage someone you're going to try to docks them and all that stuff, be prepared for them to show up to your house and beat the shit out of you. Yeah, I mean I, but if you're driving, let somebody scream. Let's. thi. thi, you you you you you. you you. you. you you. you you. you you. you thi. you you thi. you you thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. You're going th. You're going th. You're going th. You th. You th. You th. You're th. You're going th. You're going th. You're going th. You're going th. You're going th. You're going th. You're th. You're th. You th. You th. You th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. thi. thi. You're going thi. thi. You're going go. You're going to go go go go go go go go go go, to go go, to go go go, to go go go go, you're going thi. You're going th. and start shooting people. Yeah, yeah, I don't think people should be violent, you know, in any situation. I know you're right, Johnny, maybe I'm a hypocrite because I do believe that chin-checking needs to be in a little bit as well. I have a friend of my grandmother's side of the family who got cut off by a guy who didn't use his indicator, his right-turn signal in England. And he got the guy to to to to to the guy the guy the guy the guy to the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy the guy guy the guy guy the guy the guy the guy to the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy to the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the his indicator is right turn signal in England. Yeah, and he got the guy to pull off the road

Starting point is 02:05:27 And beat the shit out of the guy and went to jail for a while You know a road full-blown road rage thing for the front of the family for not using his turn signal. Yeah, that was it. He beat the shit out of the guy for not using his turn signal That was it. Yeah, that's too much. Yeah. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, the th. the th. the th. Yeah, the the the th. Yeah, the the the th. Yeah, the th. Yeah, the the th. th. Yeah. the the shit. Yeah. Yeah. the shit. the shit. Yeah. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. the shit out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's shit. He's the shit. He's the shit. He's the shit. He's the shit. He's the shit. the shit. the shit. the the the the the th. the th. the th. the the th. the the the the the th. the the the the to this judge for taking a stand, the middle finger is the right of everyone. Here's another story. You know, you've said that there's some hope in Gen Z Sam. This might fly in the face of that. This is from Australia. 28 girls hospitalized with, quote, anxiety after playing with the Weeji board. Damn, dude, you're the Weegee board. Damn, dude, you're letting in dark spirits, bro. And here's a quick sneak peek of conspiracy social club. Enjoy. You're crazy, bro. You don't know a thing about banking.

Starting point is 02:06:13 You are totally crazy, Brian. You actually don't know. This is where, this is where you literally float off in the fantasy. So let me ask you, so Sam, since our economy and the world's economy has been moving at the speed of trillions of dollars for the past 40 years, which allows everybody to buy mortgages and live a high standard of living all over the world, yeah. Since that economy is purring along, you want to get rid of what, central banks? Yeah, you want to get rid of Central banks? Do you know what central banks do? Do you even know what you're talking about? Yeah, I do know I'm talking about? Okay, so what do you want? So you want to have banks that are? So where is the regulation with banks?

Starting point is 02:06:51 No regulation? No regulation? Is there any regulations? there are regulations? there? Is there? therethat there are regulations is when you put your money in a bank, you know that could be a big bank. My bank of America, you know your money is insured. You know your money is insured. You know your money is insured. Can I get my father on the line? Right, I don't want to hear from your lizard father, okay? My father, I'm calling him. the father, I'm calling my dad. I cannot do this. It's not productive. My dad's been a banker his whole life. Yeah, he's part of it.

Starting point is 02:07:25 He's not part of it. He's tell you my central banks. Brian, Brian, listen to me, stop. I will not, I will walk out. I will walk out. I can't walk out. I can't call. Family members or Dracula? That's who you can't call. Your Honor. Okay.

Starting point is 02:07:46 I want to call my daddy. Let me call my daddy. He's a banker and my daddy knows more than, then fucking this guy. Yeah, but the thing is like his... I can't emotionally fight with a man's father because I love Brian so much. No, you can fight with him. No, I don't want to argue with your dad. I don't want to do that. You've never read a book on banking. You've watched a couple of videos like this.

Starting point is 02:08:10 No, no, no, no, no. That's a bank of bad. Brian. Brian. Yes, Brian. Brian. Do you really think that the banks are regulated, Brian? Brian, yes, do you really believe that?

Starting point is 02:08:27 Do you really believe that, Brian? Brian. The banks are regulated. Management does some dumb things. The reason that he's so- - You understand they do dumb things because there's no regulation for them to do, well, but but there is regulation, and the big banks are way more regulated now, now, right?

Starting point is 02:08:51 Now you get these small independent banks, Sam, and what they do is they go, we'll fill the void here. And the problem is with these small independent banks, like happens all the time. The's taken shortcuts. The management starts taking shortcuts. Money to be made, optimistic, human behavior. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, too. And, too. And, toooooooooooooo. And, toeeea. And, toe. And, too. And, they. And, the. And, the management starts taking shortcuts, money to be made optimistic human behavior, and all of a sudden they go, you know what, our collateral is going to be treasury bonds, US treasury bonds. All of a sudden interest rates go up, everybody knows this. Uh-oh, we don't have, we don't have the collateral. Now everybody starts, does a run on the bank and starts pulling their money out. And that's what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thi. thi. thi. thi. thrash. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thr. thr. thr. te. te. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. trea. trea. trea. tre. tr. is set up for that to happen? When the Federal Reserve says you get loan out at one point was $10 for every dollar you

Starting point is 02:09:29 have, now you don't even need that dollar, Brian. That's done on purpose. It's not, that's true that there is quantitative easing and all that is a bad idea. So right. So you know that the streets are saying, what the streets are saying, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, tho, tho. is, tho. So, is, thoo. So, is, is, is, is, is, is togu. So, is, is, is togu. So, is, is tha. So, is, thau. So, is, this whole thing with this SBF, is that what it is? SBF, the banker? SVB. Okay. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:09:50 That this is a move. It was, again, a controlled demolition, okay, so that there's a run, and then you add that, the big banks, okay, want to eat up all the regional banks. So what they're gonna do is they're gonna fake, they're gonna cause this run. All they're talking about you have these people. Go get your money out of the bank. Go get your money out of the bank. Go get your money out of the bank. As me being is the 16th biggest bank in in the country. Right Brian, they. Yeah, but it, Brian, Brian, the, the, the, Brian, they, they, they, Brian, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna fake. they're gonna fake. they're gonna gonna fake. they're gonna gonna fake. they're gonna gonna's when the Lehman went down in 2008. Sam, Sam, the regional banks are making money. It's there are a lot of people that make money off the regional banks. It's not that. You're talking about three banks right now. What? What? I'm talking about three banks right now. Yeah, oh, that's why I know that you're struggling. We've decided this. When you're really trying to just spit ball, you just start molesting your leg. Your conspiracy that the big banks, that the problem actually is there.

Starting point is 02:10:53 Hey, what's up? Here's a quick little clip. If we don't smoke the same, check it out. I just think it's fucked. Not one option, really. Coddum. That's it. Not really. Did you hear the good, no, did you hear the good news? An abstinence. Did you hear the good news though?

Starting point is 02:11:10 Yeah, that it's coming, but it's still a trial run. No, no, no, it's like, it's like, like, that. Feml. female tells you you have to work on them what do we always do wear a fucking condom not once have I been like would you have what a fucking bitch not would you would you have more would you have more empathy towards a woman like because don't me wrong I sometimes I feel like as men we take that birth control shit like like lightly but that shit has repercussions like this is the reason your bitch acts up some time okay there's a reason your bitch starts crying because you tell her like, hey, like, you know, I said it was truly a little bit louder than I should have it. She's like, she's like, okay. Well, like, for like, certain shit like that like, but like,

Starting point is 02:11:51 but I'm saying like, would you have more empathy if you let's say, let's say, Exa, like, I still want to live that bachelor life. thirt, their. thu, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. th. th. th. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She, th. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. She's. th. th. th th thr. thr. to. to. to. to. to. to. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr night bam bam bam just shooting up nuts every there this is blanks but then you start seeing their repercussions that two days out of the fucking two days out of the fucking shot shot you're just you're just you're not to females are on birth control your bill don't you if you're if you're if you're a if you blank that you're black two two days out of the to two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two the two two the the the two two two the to two to to to to two to two two to to to their the their tree to to two days two days two days two days two days two two two two their two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tree the trees I I I I I trees I trees I'm tree's tree's try. toys toys I'm try try toys I try toys I'm today's today's today's today's today said to any girl who takes birth control, if that shit makes you fat, that makes you your hormones out of place, shout out to you for taking it for your man for busting nuts in you and you better be busting a lot of nuts in you if you're doing that. That's what my girl be getting at some nuts sometimes. I don't blame them. Yeah, but at the end the thin thin thin thin, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, that, th, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to, to, to, to, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, shout, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, shout a condom is some bullshit though, bro, like a major bullshit.

Starting point is 02:12:46 Yeah, like that's the only option. Have you, let's be real, let's be real. Let's address the elephant in the room. Calm inside. No, I mean, besides condoms. Have you ever put a condom? And then, theythe thin. go to high school? Yeah, bro, but fuck you bitch. And you went to Pearl Harbor, do you know what happened with Pearl Harbor? I know what happened with Pearl Harbor. These fools were sleeping and these fools just started dumping on it. Middle of night, yeah.

Starting point is 02:13:10 Japan, Japan woke up a sleeping dragon. That's what they said in the movie. But that shit, the balls to really be like, no, it's cool. We got this. I'm like, fool, do you know who you just, who you just bombed? And you, the United States did not want to go into this war. They were like, we're fucking. They're like, look, we didn't want to bomb the shit, but now we got a flex. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was Roosevelt. I think you're wrong about that. Maybe Eisenhower? I don't know, man. Whoever it was, that fool was no punk bitch.

Starting point is 02:13:49 I'll tell you that point, that's who fucking said, nah. Drop the fucking nuke, bro. He was a, that's, that's, the man, man. That's the trump, that's that's the that's that's the that's tru, that's tru, tru, tru, tru, true, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. That's. That's that's. That's. That's true. That's. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that arrow bro. Okay so going to the Google search we got Franklin D. Roosevelt FDR and Harry S. Truman. Yep Harry S. Truman died or passed and then F. R. No. F. D. R. D. R. D. R. D. R. the R. D. R. D. R. the R. D. R. D. R. D. R. D. R. D. R. D. R. D. R. Everything is in reverse with you, huh? Green? I'm, I know she's not. ESL doesn't stand as, it doesn't just stand for English is the second language. Xavier is everything, second language. Yeah, bro, numbers, fucking ai like, sides. Yeah.

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