Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #656: HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US with Josiah McGarvie

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Starting point is 00:01:11 Josiah, McGarvey. That's a great name, bro. Big time. Guys, I want to thank everyone who came out to comedy chaos. Last night, two nights ago, whenever this drops, purefire, weird crowd, weird crowd. Gonna be honest with you, one of the weirdest crowds we ever had, but you know, we put together a show in three days and sold a shit ton of tickets.

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Starting point is 00:04:51 Some highlights. Broken Sim, Conspheres the Social Club, and we don't smoke insane. Just hang out and listen to five minutes of clips. Enjoy the show it's about the movie The Dividers which is fire. All right let's get into it. I am very excited about this episode. I'm very excited. This movie Crush. He He is a filmmaker, a documentary maker, creator. This is a slick movie. Please welcome Josiah McGavy. How are you? Josiah, how are you?

Starting point is 00:05:32 Josiah, how are you? toobey, Mgavi. Bam, I practice it. I'm fucking up still. M'arvy, how are you? I'm great. What a badass name. I mean, dude, I just would want want to want to want to want to want to want to to get to be here. Josiah what a badass name I mean dude I just would want to get a black belt in everything and walk around and fucking robe. It's a great

Starting point is 00:05:49 biblical name. Five of son I may name it Josiah. Hey yeah feel free to steal it. You cannot work at a fast food restaurant with a name Josiah. Good point. Hi welcome now and Josiah how can I help you it just doesn't work. Yeah you've got to shorten it to Joe it's the same thing. It's the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same to the same the same to the same. You the same. You to the same. You the same. You the same. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. the. the. t. t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the a good point. Hi, welcome to Nino. And Josiah, how can I help you? It just doesn't work. Yeah, you've got to shorten it to Joe. It's the same thing when you're ordering your Starbucks or anything. Hey, can I get a name for that order? You're just wasting time if you say Josia. Although it is cooler, it depends on like how hot the barista is

Starting point is 00:06:27 at the cash register. If she's like a tiny little smoke show, you're like, it's Josiah. And you just stare deep into her cell and she questions her reality. But Josiah, thank you so much for joining us. I'm very excited. So when our booker books is Mark, he's a great guy most of the time. He, you know, when he's driving me completely crazy, but he's always

Starting point is 00:06:53 like watch this, watch this, and usually I ignore him. He asked like four five times, which was great. Every time he says it again, it pushes me farther from watching it. Yeah I had one hour every time he asked yeah every time I like people don't understand I got so I do this show comedy chaos at the comedy store and everyone's always bugging me to do the show and every time you hit me up if I tell you once I will work you in I'm always trying to figure out when's the best time get you in. Every time you hit me up that that's the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the thi thi. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the. I the. I the. the. ty. try. try. try. tell. try. tell. try. tell. tell. I try. the. the. they'll they's another four shows till you do it again. Okay? And that, okay, so... Did it help that I said it was fucking amazing? Yeah, well, it did. So, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna watch this. We haven't got notes on it. I'll watch. I have a good chunk. Bro, I am so excited that I watched your movie because it is pure fire. The movie is the dividers. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. It is the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It. It. It. It was. It is. It is. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is th. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is ti. It is t. The movie is called The Dividers and it is the Dividers. It is Fire, bro, it is Fire. So before we get into the movie, let's,

Starting point is 00:07:53 for our listeners who may not be familiar with you, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and just where they can find you. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, so I'm a documentary filmmaker. I did this film independently, so I'm not coming from, I'm not coming from like some company or anything like that. I just, you know, I thought it was a great, a great story, raised the money and did that. I'm based in Australia. So, yeah, it's, it's an interesting perspective making an American, you know, an American story. And yeah, you can find me on Twitter. I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it's it's an interesting perspective making an American funeral, an American story. And yeah, you can find me on Twitter. I'm on Twitter at Josiah Mugabe, I'm pretty sure, same on Instagram, but main, the main

Starting point is 00:08:34 thing is the movie. And if you want to go see the movie, if you're into the internet law, if you're into all the trolling, the Fortran stuff, you're going to want to check it out out out's at the Dividers documentary.com and it's out on Amazon, it's on Movies Plus as well. It'll be coming out a few other places. Yeah, I love Movie Plus. El Ride. I'm working with them on multiple projects and oh cool great guys. Yeah, really great guys and you know they're the production The little production company that could that's doing th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the th. the the the th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the divided the div. the divi. the divide is's the dividers. the dividers. the divi. I's the divi. I's the divid is. I's. I's.tho. tho. the. tho. tho. tho. they're. they're. they. they. they. they. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. th. they're. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're the. they're they're they. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're the. the. to be featuring the roast battles on there. That is, I brokered that to happen and they're going to start live streaming roast battle on Movie Plus. And so there's a lot of stuff going on with that. But yeah, look at that, man, they're starting to upload them as we speak. And Daddy, the Conduit Tripoli, that's what I am. I'm Sam the conduit, the condozyn, tho, I's tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, the, the, the ci, the ci, the c', the the the, thi, thi, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, thro, they, they, they, their, they, their, th I know you're not supposed to give yourself nicknames, but that's it.

Starting point is 00:09:46 So it's very when you I thought you were a different guy I expected a different person you you when you appeared on Zoom I'm like this guy's got a great name and Incredibly good-looking charismatic guy full homo, okay, and which is very interesting to me that you would want to do a story on trolls. Hmm. And so, I give what you mean, he doesn't give that. Yeah, you do not give me the vibe of troll. I saw one guy in the movie, I'm like, wow, that guy's a little too good looking to be a troll, but he, you know, troll is a tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, the tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, tral is life, tral is a life, tral is a life, tral is a tral is a little tral is a tral is a tral's life, true, I's a tro, tro, tro, tro, tro, tro, tro, tro, tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral, tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a tral's a little, I', he's a little, I'er's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, he's a little, true, he's a little, he's a little, true, true, true, true, surprise that he's a troll. Nick Fent says, we'll get into, we'll get into, and I have my opinions on all those guys and it is from a place of respect so you know sometimes they're the best.

Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah, I mean, I love the they're super interesting. Trolls are, except for when you're the, the, the trolls are at the vanguard. Trolls are at the the the the th. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls are th. Trolls are th. Trolls are at thi. Trolls are thi. Trolls are thi. Trolls are thr-theirs. Trolls. Trolls are at thralls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. Trolls. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. Thei is from from th. Thei is from th. Thei is from from th. Thea is from th. Thea is from from th. Thea is from from throlls are throlls are throll the one that they're true when you're the target okay just target I thought we should get a name yeah yeah yeah yeah we sure it's a focus is that good there we go so what what got you in to this story well well it really blew up in 2017 I'm not thrown in 2017. I'm not like a troll guy. I'm not someone who posts edgy stuff on the internet or a poster. No I'm not. I'm not even a poster like I almost most of all my social media is they're just lurking lurking accounts. But the reason I think the reason I think I was so attracted to this story was because I've

Starting point is 00:11:25 never heard anything like it ever. Like I can't think of anything to compare it to except for the Wall Street Betts GameStop Short Squeeze, but that happened in 2020. I was already working on this by the time that happened, which was, you know, if you're familiar with that story. But I don't, I can't, it's just the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most the most th. th. th. th. th. thi- it's just thi-it. thi-it. thi-it's just-it. thi-it. thi-it. thi-it. thi-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I. thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi-I. I thi-I. I thi-I. I thi-I. thi-I. thi-I. thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi-s. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi-s. I thi-s. I th you know, if you're familiar with that story, but I don't, I can't, it's just the most unique, strange, weird story of these internet trolls turning into this hive mind of you trying to track down Shire's flag and all this, it just was so fascinating. We'll get into all that. It is very interesting.

Starting point is 00:12:12 First of all, okay, so we'll get into the movie, but I want to ask you, I'm always very blown away by when people, foreigners, okay, who are not American are very much into American politics and American culture. And I, you know, and I understand that America's place at the top of the top and American culture. And I understand that America's place at the top of the pyramid is going away. It's changing a lot. There's probably a lot of self-destruction going on, controlled demolition going on, and a lot of people waking up to kind of the power dynamics that are out there and but but what got you into that what as an Australian makes you want to do a story on an American culture. Yeah yeah it's for for Americans it might be a bit strange but there's to give you a bit of an insight, like American politics, and I think I think most people would agree that one of the biggest

Starting point is 00:13:12 exports of America is its cultural exports, you know, the music, the films, you know, the movies, the actors, the what I've tick-tock and all the tick-toc stars, YouTube, celebrities, you know, the, the movies, the actors, the what I have, TikTok and all the TikTok stars, YouTube, celebrities, all this sort of, even comedians and all that comedy, all the best, all the best is all incubated, all the monies in America. And so, when you're from, especially the Anglosphere countries, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, England,

Starting point is 00:13:45 there is so much attention towards, you know, we all have, all the movies we watch here in Australia are American films, all the music that we watch is mostly American, and it goes to the politics as well, which is funny enough, like people know what's going on with American politics. Because it's so volatile and wild over there, it's a lot more boring over here. You don't have these characters and all this crazy drama, you know, with January 6th and the debates and all this sort of thing. So we find it very fascinating. And the funny, to illustrate the debates and all this sort of thing. So we find it very fascinating. And the funny, to illustrate the point, a little bit. Is it fascinating in a sense of like a scientific study

Starting point is 00:14:33 or is it fascinating in the sense of like watching a train wreck? More recently it's been fascinating in the sense of watching a train wreck? But it's hard to know like what came first, like the chicken of the egg. Is it because the dominance of American culture is so huge that it's sort of hard to avoid being sucked up into the American culture? Or is it because it's more interesting and so we decided to look at that instead. But to give you an idea, like I remember when the Trump election happened and Trump got elected and what of it. Remember the whole he's not my president

Starting point is 00:15:15 thing that was going around. So I remember leaving my house in Brisbane and going to the coffee shop and passing a coffee shop and they've got a sandwich board out the front of the coffee shop that says he's not my president. If you agree, if you agree, come in and get a coffee from us, you're our kind of people. And I just thought, yeah, he's not your president because you're in a different country. It is so interesting to me. Like, because the average American probably couldn't tell you if guys guys the the the you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys the their the average American probably couldn't tell you guys have a president or a primary or a chance for it.

Starting point is 00:15:50 To be fair though, we don't get any Australia news. We get no news from Europe or Australia. Like the shit that's happening in France. You don't even hear about it unless you go outside. Yeah. And our stuff dominates the news cycle down there. Our politics. They cover our politics. Well, because there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their theates the news cycle down there. I mean, our politics, they cover our politics. Well, because there's a lot for the, there's a lot of reasons for that.

Starting point is 00:16:10 You know, England and America, we're like from, you know, Mad Max and the Terror Dome, we are master blaster. They are the ones who run everything, they're the brains. And we're the big gorilla, that's the brains and where the big gorilla that's smash. That's that's exactly how everything was set up. And it's crazy to me that that people follow what we do and they live and they die by it. It's just blows, it just blows me away. So, you know, I'm blessed that there's people listen to show in Australia. Some of them are very attractive women and they would be giving me updates of what's going on with the COVID lockdowns and all that stuff. And I think that's when Americans started paying attention to what was happening in Australia,

Starting point is 00:16:58 you know, New Zealand and what was happening with that. And it's kind of crazy to have come out of that. Now, you know, people have a better understanding in America of what happens in the rest of the world, but I'm always blown away to how, you know, there's just American politics are such a big part of just the world politics. And we wonder if that's gonna happen forever. Is it gonna be shifted to China now that they're becoming like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. that, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you know, that if that's going to happen forever. Is it going to be shifted to China now that they're becoming like... I mean K-pop, I don't know if that's China, but well that's not, that's the case, answer Korea.

Starting point is 00:17:32 But no, but we're still paying attention to other stuff though. It's what I'm saying, it's America. I always thought it was gonna be America, like, it was all like America. Like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's not. that's, that's, I's not. that's. that's. that's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. that's. that's. that's not. that's not. that's not not not not. that's not not not not. that's not. that's not not not not. that's not. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don about this K-pop I went to this one concert their concert was bigger than the one I was going to and it was next door. Oh really? Yeah they they gave him the Coliseum and they just gave them the little bank of America the one the little stadium yeah and I was like you know this is a big concert I thought it was huge and you're walking a bunch of Asian people and I was like the the the the their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're w. they're w. they're walking they're walking they're walking they're walking they're w. they're walking. they're walking they're walking. they're w. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they were they were they were they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they they were. they were. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. their their their th. th. th. they're their. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're their they're they're the concert I'm going to and it was K-pop. And I think that's a different thing though, right? Don't you think because it's mostly drawing Asian Americans? You know, it's not drawing everybody else. Well, I think they're trying to get like American women into K-POP and be like, hey, don't you love this? Too much androgyny, I think for the most. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Yeah. It's. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not th. It's not th. It's not th. It's back to the movie, sorry, he's like, I'm here to talk geopolitics. So your movie, can you explain people what your movie The Dividers

Starting point is 00:18:34 is about? Because it's a great movie, dude. It's so slick. And I watched it and I'm going to give you a chance talk on my show. I know I talk the whole time. And I get really guilty about it and then I'll shut up the whole time. But when I watch a movie, I go, this is, this movie is Hollywood's biggest nightmare. This is Hollywood's biggest nightmare. That a movie, and I must say you're an independent, but we agree in that? Or are you like, okay? An independent guy can create a movie that's as slick as anything I've seen come out.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Absolutely, yeah, this would have a place on any string platform, any television network. Absolutely. It is so slick and I'm not afraid to say the word gorgeous, it's a gorgeous movie. It's a slick, gorgeous movie. Yeah. I was blown away by it, the cinema. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I's. It's. It's thi. th. I'm. I'm. th. I'm. th. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th........................ I'm. I'm. I's a slick gorgeous movie. Yeah. I was blown away by it. Put it in the Sanmas. We want to see it.

Starting point is 00:19:28 Dude, and like Johnny was really sucking you off right before the show. He was working your nuts. But tell him what you were saying. I mean, it's just a really technical thing, but it's really hard to make clicking around on computer screens a part of the narrative, I would say, make it entertaining in that way and he did a really good job of that. Yeah, it was great. It's technically challenging him, bro. You were really deep-throating him, bro, and I just wanted you to save it for the show. Well, I mean, if you think about what his story is, though, it's a lot of found, found footage, it's a lot of, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, found, and found, and found, and found, and to make that captivating and he's a great job of it. Okay, so let's get into the movie. I know people are like, dude, stop talking about the movie,

Starting point is 00:20:05 tell us what it's about so we know references. So tell us a little bit about your movie, the Dividers. Yeah, absolutely. So a lot of people will probably remember, it was this viral, viral trolling story. It put Fortan on the map. It made Fortan a household name. And this was, the story is back in 2017, right after, the day after the inauguration of Trump, President Trump, Shilabuff and some of his artist friends decide to create this experimental performance art,

Starting point is 00:20:45 you know, these artsy sort of guys are into this weird performance art. And their idea is let's create a performance art piece that will be a, it'll be a protest against Donald Trump's presidency. And what the art piece will be is we'll just set up a live stream camera in a public place and Shilabuff we'll just set up a live stream camera in a public place And Shilabuff would stand in front of the live stream camera and chant He will not divide us over and over and over into the live stream and you know he would be standing in this public place and The idea was it would encourage pedestrians random people to come and form a like a little crowd around Shaya and everyone would chant together. He will not divide us, he will not divide us

Starting point is 00:21:30 over and over and over. This sort of like ritual, like pseudo-religious sort of, it was very strange. And what happened was, you know, oh yeah, so the idea was it would last for four years and there would be, they wanted it to be set up. So if Shire wasn't there, at least there would be someone for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, the live stream would just go and go and go for four years, and they wanted a constant chant of he will not divide us for the duration of four years. It sounds kind of like a some sort of He Will Not Divide Us for the duration of four years. It sounds kind of like witchy, kind of like a some sort of spell, because this was going to solve the problems of Trump.

Starting point is 00:22:11 This was their way to solve the Trump election. And so that was going on, okay, that kicked off. And what happened was all these guys on 4chan started to notice, oh, Shah, there's this pretentious art project going on. Oh, you know what? It's live stream, so they can't edit anything. You know, hey, is anyone? So on 4chan, if you're not familiar with 4chan, it's one of these old message boards that's been around for a long time.

Starting point is 00:22:39 And it's full of trolls, it's full of trolls, basically. It's full of, it's the most edgy part of the internet that is in the dark web. Fortune is interesting, dude. Yes. It is like the greatest and worst thing of the internet. And it does represent the, all that is possible and the greatest shit thing all at one time. Right, Johnny, how would you describe 4chan? Yeah, it's a free for all. That's what it is.

Starting point is 00:23:09 It is when people like anything all the time, anywhere can go. It's unrestrained speech is what it is. It's absolutely. It's got some current users right now, 200,000. No, I mean, 4chans is still going from it. Even now after it's been kind of crippled by a series of scandals and stuff, it's still strong. Although people have moved to like A-chan and the other iterations of it. So what we have is, because I want to get into some stuff with it, but we basically have

Starting point is 00:23:34 4-chan is the mecca of trolls, it's where the trolls are. And how would you describe a troll. What is your thoughts on what trolls are? I think, well, it's it's one of these guys I interviewed, because I ended up interviewing a bunch of all these trolls, we'll get into that, I'm sure. And one of the trolls I interviewed had just, I think, the best, the best description of what a troll is or the sort of the energy behind trolling and he used the term transgressive nihilism to describe trialing and I thought that's just brilliant you know that's just such a brilliant way of putting it because it's it's it's the nialism part is a kind of like a black pill you know it's it's a lot of guys usually it's guys young guys who are who are totally disenfranchised

Starting point is 00:24:31 with the system that you know they're black filled they see they see all the horrible things that are going on and they're just like well there's no fixing this so so when you when you're when you're in that mental state where you think everything's bad and there's no solution the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. they is is is is th. th. they is th. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. they. they. that mental state where you think everything's bad and there's no solution and there's, you know, you're just on a train rack, slow motion train wreck. You know, there's nothing, you know, you're totally blackfield, there's nothing that's going to change. Well, at least you can have a laugh, you know, at least you can laugh while the train crashes or while the ship sinks. And you can basically make a mockery of everything because everyone's, you know, from their perspective,

Starting point is 00:25:12 everyone's participating in the society that's totally broken. And they, and no one else sees it, but the trolls. And so they say, well, we're going to just totally make fun of everything. And we're just going to say offensive things for the sake of saying it. We're going to ruin someone's art project. We're going to mess with this. They love getting into online polls and stuff and hijacking online polls. I don't know if you know the Mountain Jew one. Mountain Jew had this online poll where they said, hey, anyone, if you want want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, if their, if their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. tho. too. tooome. tooome. Wea. We're, tooome. We're, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, the had this online poll where they said, hey anyone, if you want to come up with a new name, we've got a new flavor

Starting point is 00:25:49 coming out of Mountain Dew, you, we're going to do an online poll to decide the new name. And so all these 4-chain guys are like, hey here's our opportunity to shine. And they said, let's do the new name as Hitler did nothing wrong that's the name Hitler did nothing wrong Mountain Dew and so they submitted it and it got it's a voting process it got voted to number one yeah and it got voted to number one and then the organizers deleted that they said oh no delete that you can't have that and then someone resubmitted it and then it got re-voted to the top of the number one and then they're like like like like like like like like like like like like like they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're like they're like the they're like the they they the they're like the the they they're like the the the the they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. tho. tho. tho. the. the. tho. the. tho. tho. they're. they're they're they're they're they're the number one. And then they're like, oh no, so they had to cancel the whole thing and they said, okay, yeah, we're not doing the poll anymore. You know, any way that it's, there's also, there's also, I think, this feeling of can I influence the world, the thrown world, thr- thr-inin, thr- thr-in, thrown, thi-in, thi-in, thi-in, thi-in, thi-in, thi-in, thi-in, thi-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-isomea-a-a-s. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th.. th. th. th. tho, th. th. tho, tho, tho, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s-a-a-a-a-a. And, thananan, so-a. than, so-a. thoan, so- real lives from my basement on my computer in my basement. You know, and there's this sort of,

Starting point is 00:26:49 he will not divide us this documentary, really, this was one of the first times that the trolling spilled out from online into the real world, and in a really incredible way. So yeah, transgressive nihilism, I don't know if you can relate to that, if you think that's a good description. But I think it's interesting because, you know, this is obviously hilarious. And it's hilarious because you are you are forcing a corporation to make a decision on whether they're going to honor

Starting point is 00:27:24 their initial decision on whether they're going to honor their initial decision, right? And that is hilarious. That is hilarious. Now there's also bad sides of trolling where you know they they get super personal maybe overstepped the line. Like doxing I think doxing's crossed the line. Yeah. I mean we'll see this in this movie that there was some stuff like that as well and you know so it's this fine. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the thi thi their thi thi thi thi. their thi. thi. I thi. I is thi. I is a thi. I is a thi. I is a thi. I thi. I is a thi. I thi. I thi. I is is is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I is is is a thi. I is a thi. I is a thi. I is a thi is a thi is a thi is a thi is a thi is a thi. I is a thi. I is a thi. I is a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's. It's th. It's. It's thi. It's thi. It's like that as well and you know so it's this fine line you walk I think there is a place for it and there's some stuff that like hey man you're gonna push the you're going to push people a little it's so my old theory is that inside of everybody there is a third world dictator no matter how

Starting point is 00:28:04 Kumbaya you are. How much you believe in free speech. Yeah, well no matter how much you could be the biggest beta in the world. But simmering deep inside this beta cuck is a third world dictator who wants to scorch the earth. Oh I, you're talking about the trolls, I guess. No, but everywhere, I don't tell you when you're a victim of troll. You know, power is corrupting and it's a giant elixir. And there is, in the troll world, there's this desire for power. Well, yeah, it's a, it's people who have been able to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert to exert, have to exert, have to exert, have to exert, have thi, have thi, have thi, have thi, have, have thi, have, have thi, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have, have. the the the their, have. their, have. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how able to exert no power can actually see results of their actions on other people.

Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah. Their actions affect other people and that's some power that they have. And it allows them to operate in a lot of ways without any kind of blowback. And it's a side effect of marginalizing white men in the society. I mean, I think it's possible, certainly, that you're seeing marginalized white men being, uh, being, being, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their actions, their actions, like, like, like, like, their, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their actions, their actions, their actions, their, their, their actions, their actions, their actions, their actions, their actions, their actions, their actions, their actions, their effect of the marginalizing white men in the society. I mean, I think it's possible certainly that you're seeing marginalized white men being being kind of forced into these roles, these dark corners of the internet where they get together and troll people. So you're getting what, you're reaping what you've sown their progressives. Yeah, I do.

Starting point is 00:29:19 That's a great point too there is that side of that and there is some people who are just like nasty and they'd want to do nasty shit and then when they get docks they lose their mind because and then they start yelling about you know free speech and all that like hey dude there's a free speech but that doesn't mean you there's free of consequences you know so that's out there as well but this movie is the opposite of that this movie and the the the the th and th and th and th and th th and th th th and th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. they th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the te te te. te. te. tell too tell tell tell too too tell tell too tell tell te tell they're the the they're's out there as well. But this movie is the opposite of that. This movie and what they talk about is absolutely hilarious and to me represents a time where the internet kind of push back against corporate art. And this kind of, this kind of free free range free run that rich white kids virtual signaling

Starting point is 00:30:10 Had had the market on monopolized right on this I'm going to virtual signal love everybody, but and we'll see like Kind of I think is the bad guy in this movie? One of these like art school kids art school kids who like, one of these like art, art school kids. Art school kids, who like 100% is outed by a guy I have love for Sam Hyde as being like really just a piece of shit that he says he's fighting against. So I found it very interesting. So basically, Trump gets elected. We start to see the veil being pulled back

Starting point is 00:30:48 from this narrative of Republicans, oppressive Democrats fighting for the little person. Because what proceeds this is Hillary Clinton completely hijacking the Democratic primaries, steal it from the populace, which is Bernie Sanders, who, at the Democratic primaries steal it from the populace which is Bernie Sanders who at the time I was behind because I saw him playing these giant arenas and him being able to get people behind them and Hillary Clinton playing these small things and yet polls were lying to us about what was going on so

Starting point is 00:31:21 the conspiracy theories and me were thinking, oh, this is total bullshit, what we're being told. And now the narrative starts to shift from the Republicans, bad guys, to Democrats, good guys too. Oh, both sides have scumbags in them. And the truth is that the elites don't want us to have any say in our own politics. And I think this becomes a great example. the the the the the the the the the the the narrative, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us to us the to us the their their to us to us to us the narrative to us about to us to us their to us to us to us their their their their their their their the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative the the narrative. the the the the the the the the the tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. truth. truth truth is truth is truth is truth is to to to to to to to to to to the to the truth. the the the the the the the truths the truth is that the elites don't want us to have any say in our own politics. And I think this becomes a great example of this. Would you agree on that? Yeah, yeah. I think there's, well, the way I see it is I think the Trump election, it like, it split the worlds that people lived in.

Starting point is 00:32:08 I think it split like the total, like the way that you understand the world, like totally frames everything in your, every detail is framed by the world that you live in like psychologically. And I actually like the Trump election split people psychologically into two different camps where, where, where, where, feel like the Trump election split people psychologically into two different camps where one group was like, Trump got elected. This is proof that Nazis run everything. And how could a Nazi get elected as the president of the United States? Wow, I guess half the country really is nazis

Starting point is 00:32:46 you know full on full on like they accepted that narrative and then and then the uh... the pro trump guys are like yes he's you know finally we have someone who represents us you know it was very much like the working you know the people's president you, the people's president, you know, the president of the people, the, the every man, you know, that sort of thing. And you see that, you see that in the movie. You know what, when I was traveling around the US, I saw that to do all the recordings, because

Starting point is 00:33:17 I would, I would get in one Uber. It was crazy. I flew to the, I with Nick Fuentes and I got out of the airport, got into an Uber to drive to Nick's spot. And the guy in the Uber is telling me, hey, because he's like, hey, where are you from? I'm like, yeah, I'm from Australia. He's like, hey, well, you want to get a little inside information on, you know, here from an American, what the politics is like. You wouldn't believe it. There's Nazis and white supremacists are running the government. And I was like, oh really? Like, out of the closet, I'm a white supremacist, I'm running the country.

Starting point is 00:33:55 He's like, no, they hide it, you know. It's all these Nazis, and you wouldn't believe like Nazis in every department and all this. I was like like the the the the they they they they they they theynnnn they. theynn, they. they. they. theyn't theyn't thiiii. thi. thi, thi, thi, and they. And thi, thi, they. And they's, and they's, and they, and they's, and they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they. And they. And they. And they. And they. And they. And they. And thiii. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thininininn't, th. And th. And, th. And, crazy. And then I get dropped off, do the interview, get an Uber back to the airport, get it picked up by a different Uber. The guy goes, hey, you know, they're trying to like kill us and the socialists and communists are running the government. And you know, we got a stockpile either maced in because they're using this to kill us all and all this and it was, you know, there's just, there's like those people

Starting point is 00:34:29 live in totally different worlds. It's two different countries and I think, I think the volatility of this of this, of this, he will not to buy this thing was the clash of those people with, every, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, like, like, like, the, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they...l.e. We. We'll, th. th. th. th. the. the. thi. the. those. those. those, th. th. th.thing, was the clash of those people with the... every... like, like, we'll probably get into this, but the milk, you know, the drinking the milk. Every little detail is framed by this, this world view. And so you have these guys who are drinking milk is a joke because it's random and silly and like bizarre. And then the other guys who live in a world where everything is a Nazi symbol think, oh they're drinking milk and laughing? That must be because they're trying to have some Nazi dog whistle. I didn't know drinking milk is a Nazi thing. Oh my goodness, you know so that's kind of my perspective.

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Starting point is 00:38:34 on the term Nazi? Like when most people think Nazi, is there any actual substance to what they're talking about or is that just a term that is detached from what an actual, because if you get into Nazism, it's national socialist, socialism, right? That's what it is. And you get a socialism that has a lot to do with the left, the Democrats, and stuff like that. But nobody ever talks about it because the way our politics has been framed is that Republicans represent the right, which represents fascism, and that is Nazism, and that's what that is, and nobody actually sits down and goes what is a Nazi or when

Starting point is 00:39:27 Actually presented with what appears to be a literal Nazi or a descendant of a Nazi like in Canada Where there one politician's grandmother literally was a Nazi you saw her working with pictures with like Adolf Hitler and all these people but there's a detachment from the left of of that connection and that literal Nazis aren't coming in to play figurative Nazis are what is the real danger. What are your thoughts on all that? Yeah yeah it's I think as a rule you are your thoughts on all that? Yeah, yeah, it's, I think as a rule, you can't take anyone seriously

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Starting point is 00:42:53 it's very interesting because now we have actual like Russians who died in in concentration camps up to 4 million and another what 16 or like another 13 to 14 million died fighting Nazi yet they're not a protected class it's like it's like it's like this giant thing of mental gymnastics that you have to do with with with Nazis and it's like and they don't want you even try to understand it it's just an emotional blanket term that you you apply to somebody who disagrees with you. Yeah I think they they don't want you to thi to to even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even even to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their the their their the the their the their the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. trying to understand it, it's just an emotional blanket term that you apply to somebody who disagrees with you. Yeah, I think they'd probably call you a Nazi for not supporting the war in Ukraine. Like you can just get it thrown around for anything. You're a Nazi for not supporting the

Starting point is 00:43:39 Ukrainian war which is being fought by Nazi. Yeah. So, so, so the Trump gets elected. It's, it's kind of this, where I would say the chaos starts in 2015, Hillary Clinton kicks it off. Now we're seeing this kind of, the internet becomes, 2015, the internet is becoming, it's self-aculizing, is that the word I'm saying? Self-actualizing? Yeah, where it's becoming this bigger thing. th thing thing thing thing, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it, it, it, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's, it's thi, it's th, it's th, it's, it, it, it's, it's, it, it, it's, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi, it's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thiiiii. It's kind kind thi. It's kind thi. It's kind thi. It's kind thi. It's kind, it's thiulizing is that the word I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:44:05 Self-actualizing? Yeah where it's becoming this bigger thing than the the legacy media can handle. It's now as powerful in messaging as the legacy media. It's the first time. It's like self-sufficient right? It's like self-propelling at this point. Well it's like the media's telling us this thing that Hillary's crushing it, polls and then everyone's going, but based on on the boots, how we've, that's not meeting. And so it's, so we're having this kind of fracture between reality that we're experiencing and the gas lighting from the legacy media. And we start to have this change. And out of nowhere, everyone starts going, hey man, I think Trump's gonna win this.

Starting point is 00:44:51 Look at Hillary's small crowds, and look at Trump's, he's playing super bold numbers. Look, it's not adding up. I think Trump's gonna win. And now, pull, pull, poll. And now we have Trump winning. And nothing is the same at that point. And you have people like Shiloh-Buff who is a Hollywood actor and he creates this kind

Starting point is 00:45:14 of slacker art which is getting a lot of attention but isn't actually doing anything. So yeah, slack-tivism is what they call it now, right? It's slack, it's slackive activism. And how much, how much part of the art was he actually of? He was the whole thing? Well, no, there's other two people, it was, I bet it was, I want it into him because of what they represent. But is there a part of us that should have sympathy for Shilabuff and what was done to him over the years? Uh, and things.

Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, a tough upbringing. He really did. Like his dad, I would see his dad at certain events. I'm not going to say what they were. They were recovery events. So just to, before people started looking into, into making stuff up, they were recovery events. His dad was at recovery events and he had crazy energy. Even at a recovery event full of crazy people.

Starting point is 00:46:14 He stood out as crazy. So you know, he's being raised in this environment and we all know Hollywood is just a meat grinder for young actors. They are abused. They are used as props for failed parents who didn't get their chance. So should we have sympathy? You didn't feel sympathy throughout the movie? At one point I was watching it and even the people on 4th Channel were like to, they

Starting point is 00:46:38 knew he was about to break and they felt a little sympathy, their job is to keep fucking going. Well, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th's th's th's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that, thi, thi, thi, thi, they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are thi, thi, they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are thi, they are thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that that that that. that that that that thateeat, that, that, that, that, that, sympathy, but their job is to keep fucking going. Well, that's the question. Should we have sympathy for him? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he, he, um, he's talked a lot about, I think what was going on was he's a very, uh, intense guy, like, and he's very, he's very like, honest, and he really throws himself into everything and I think he has and he's talked about this in interviews he has some real insecurities about I think his class and his education and things like that because he he

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Starting point is 00:47:47 and so he wants to be seen as like this real artist, but he doesn't, he feels insecure because he didn't read like whatever art theory they make you read a new university to make you sound smart and you have all the right words and you talk about postmodern art and oh metamodonism and all this like highbrow stuff so I think it was the same I think that's how he got connected with some with these artists I think he was really you know these European sophisticated you know private school art they went to like fancy art

Starting point is 00:48:28 universities in London and all this sort of thing and then they started saying oh yes Shire, you'll actually have a very sophisticated approach, you know, they start putting honey in his ear, you know, and he goes, oh well these guys make me feel like I'm smart, they you know they introduce me to Marina Bromovich and all this sort of performance art that's like you have to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to, you know, you to, you know, you to, you to, you know, you to, you to, you to, you to, you know, you know, you to, you to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to like, to like, to like, to like, to like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, these guys make me feel like I'm smart. They, you know, they introduce me to Marina Bromovich and all this sort of performance art that's like, you have to, you know, you look at it and you go, this doesn't seem very good. And then people explain, no, no, no, no, you've got to go to university and learn all this,

Starting point is 00:48:57 and then you'll realize why it's so good. I I I I I I I so I think he was very much like, oh, this is, you know, I'm starting to feel like I'm around these people who are real intellectuals, real artists, and I think he, because I included in the documentary this, this, before he did the whole he'll not divide us thing, he had talked about how he didn't like political art at all. And then, you know, these guys probably got in his ear and said, you know, Shaya, we have to do something about Trump. He's going to destroy the world. You know, and again, you know, you asked me about being Australian and and making a documentary about an American story.

Starting point is 00:49:34 His artist friends, one is, one is English and one is from Finland. They're foreigners making a, isn't it weird that there's foreigners that are making a political art project against an American president? For sure. But yeah, sympathy for Shaya, I think definitely. You know, I think he was taken for a ride. And I think he's honest, he's very genuine, and he's maybe a little bit naive. And I think he was totally taken advantage of him. And they put the ideas in his head, that, you know, they were sort of, you know,

Starting point is 00:50:11 telling him how to think and, you know, controlling his opinions and all that. I think that's what happened. That's my opinion. I don't know for sure, but that's my opinion. I find, I think you're completely and utterly right about all that stuff. I really do. And it's obvious that he's getting manipulated by these people. He's kind of starting to have this kind of breakdown.

Starting point is 00:50:38 It's after Transformers. He got so big. You know, it's like, watch what you wish for, man. You really got to watch what you wish for, okay? Yeah. And he got it. He got it. And I think it messed with his head, dude.

Starting point is 00:50:55 I think he was so... Yeah, he's clearly a guy searching, right? He's searching. Yeah. And people like that are easily influenced. You know, if somebody with a strong personality comes in their life with, that seems to have answers, it's easy for them to take advantage of someone like that, someone with an artistic temperament who maybe didn't have a, you know, a strong parent growing up. Well, there's grifters, that's right. Very smooth, seductiveftive griffters, and th. And th. And th. And th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. th. th, th, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th-a, th. Someone, th, th, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi's, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi's isa. And, thi's isaugh, thi. Someone's isa. Someone's isa. thi. thi. tha. tha. ive grifters and these two people work. Can you tell us a little bit about the two people you were talking with about and who

Starting point is 00:51:29 are featured in the movie? Yeah, I don't know a whole lot about them because they didn't want to do any interviews. You know, they didn't really, they were not very supportive of the project. I reached out to them, you know, Luke Turner, I heard back from, he he didn't want to be interviewed. The other woman, Nascia Ronco, the Finnish woman, woman, she didn't even get back to me. But basically, these, they went to, I think it was the London College of Art or something. I'm not, I don't know if that's 100% right, but this fancy, posh art school in London where you learn how to, you know, chant in front of a live stream. I don't know, you learn this

Starting point is 00:52:16 weird art. And you can definitely see, if you're familiar with Marina Abramovich, you can definitely see the influence of Marina Abramovich, you can definitely see the influence of Marina Abramovich, who is the most famous and most successful performance artists in the world. I would even say, dude, to be honest with you that it is an imitation. It is just lazy, rich kid rip off. Hmm. Lazy rich kid? Yeah, I think they've been they've been criticized for that by many people in the past. You know, there was the first time I came across that, there was a article in The Guardian in the UK paper, well-respected UK paper, that did an interview with them and taught. their work is very similar to Marina Bromovich and, you know, it's a criticism they get they they they they get they they get they get they get they get they get they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they've they've they've they've they've th. They've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've they've them and talked about, hey, your work is very similar to Marina Bramovich,

Starting point is 00:53:05 and you know, it's a criticism they get a lot and they're not very happy that people are noticing the similarities. So, I think they, they represent a big problem we have in our society, th these two people. And I'm sure, I don't know, I'm opinion on my opinion on the guy is, the guy is a they they th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, our society, these two people. And I'm sure, I don't know, my opinion on the guy is based on the interview that he is a snarky, he's a snarky rich kid, which is a big problem that we have in this country now, a narrative being pushed by rich children because they're born into privilege and I believe deep downside of us we all have this fight and flight that needs

Starting point is 00:53:53 to be itched we constantly have to it comes from our wiring of of years and years of being in the point where you might be forced to fight for your life fight for survival fight for food, find shelter, find shelter, find thin, of, of, of, of, of, thii, of, of, thi, of thi, of thi, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, the the the the the the thi, the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, thi.e, thi.e, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the point where you might be forced to fight for your life, fight for survival, fight for find food, find shelter, find all that. And as society becomes more and more modern, we get farther and farther away from that. And the farther away you get from nature, the more and more you search it out. It's like we talked about in our past podcast, uh, escape rooms, right? White women love escape rooms. Like, nobody in a third world country is going to an escape room. They don't have haunted houses.

Starting point is 00:54:32 You know, none of that stuff. We're like, I got to scare you so you feel something. Right? It's called life and many other places. You hear the Unabot talk about it. You hear Malcolm X talk about rich white liberals are the most dangerous human being in the world. And in his manifesto he talks about the the Unabomber talks about how these rich white people don't respect you they actually have pity for you.

Starting point is 00:55:00 And in this movie Sam Hyde who you know we've had on the show, and I regret that I didn't know who Sam Hyde was fully. I'd heard of Sam Hyde, he's a comic, but I didn't really understand how amazing Sam Hyde was. And since I've been following him, he's such a force of nature, and I love everything he does. Got balls man, he's got huge balls. But he's but he what he's shown you is like dude if you don't allow them to cancel you they can't cancel you. Yeah. And even if you get a cancellation, it's just an opportunity. He's got momentum, right? He's like a freight train. He just keeps going.

Starting point is 00:55:47 I think he was the original Shane Gillis. Shane got canceled from Saturday Night Live. And he's driving now. This is Sam, Sam Hyde. But I want to get back into those two kids. What was his name, Taylor? Luke Taylor and the Nostraunco were the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. Hea. I. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He train. He train. He train. He train. He train. He. He. He. He. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. Hea. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He kids. What was his name, Taylor? Luke Taylor. Luke Tana and Nassaranko were the two, the two performance art artists who got hitched up with Shaya.

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Starting point is 00:58:11 does he seem like just, I don't know, just like this woke, elite liberal that talks about life and heighten. Look at the hat he's wearing right there. Yeah, I mean, I don't tr unless you got a suit and you're going to work I do not trust a fedora. Unless you're in a suit going to work in 1955 yeah for sure. Yeah well my feeling on him is I think you know he's a posh rich kid who grew up uh he's from a very wealthy family in England. And he, you know, I think he's, yeah, I think he's a bit of a grifter, that's my opinion. And he's got a, from people who have talked to, who have been in his circles and who know him and different things, you know, they see him as, you know, as he's got a reputation for, for being sort of disingenuous and and doing what he can to, you know, get get accolades and that sort of thing. And you can see what happened like after the whole, after the shy, you know, all those allegations that came out thing. And you can see what happened like after the whole human,

Starting point is 00:59:25 after the, you know all those allegations that came out of Shail Abuff, he went on and all the websites that were that were promoting the previous work that he'd done with Shaya Labuff, he just went and took Shilabuff's name off of all of it and didn't say anything because, you know, I guess he didn't want the the best his best friend Shilabuff who he did all this stuff with and then all of a sudden his allegations and he just like dropped him and it doesn't say anything you know oh you mean like the LA comedy scene

Starting point is 00:59:54 they just threw everybody under the bus and doesn't act like they know anybody it's gonna be interesting to see what's going on with some of the stuff now. There's more people getting accused of ridiculous stuff. We'll see how quickly they get dropped by their friends. It's pure scumbag shit. And these guys are weaking it. It's ridiculous dude. It's just ridiculous. And he, like, he represents everybody on MSNBC. Everybody on Twitter, these blue checkmark people who push an idealism why honestly not living, I mean like this is Chelsea Handler. I mean the shit I've heard Chelsea Handler did on her fucking, her television set of her TV show on the set of her show and what she pushes out now could be more 180. It's like they it's like they invent some new term that some new moral

Starting point is 01:00:54 term like you know and you know the whole thing where it's like you're racist no I'm not well you have to be anti-racist if you're not you're you've got to be you're're racist. And so everyone goes, oh, okay, well, I guess I'm anti-racist now. But, you know, people don't, there's like a new terms that are invented every other month, and all of a sudden, people have always been an anti-racist. Really, thrific. you've always thiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And all all all all all all all all all all all all all tho, you're all, you're all, you're tho, you're, you're tho-and, tho, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and so, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th. th th. th th tho. And, th tho. And, tho. And, tho. And, thist. Really? That just got invented like five minutes ago. You've always been an anti-racist? You've always been, you know, all about... You know, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's all that stuff. You know, people just pretend like they've, they've believed that all along. And like you said, you go back and you look at their old stuff. And you think, way you thi. What's th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. toeea. toea. toea. toea. toea. th. toea. th. th. thi. thi. tha. thi. you used to, what you did in the past, you would be canceling yourself for now. 100% and then when their people get called out on

Starting point is 01:01:52 it, they don't, they're not high and mighty anymore and they look the other way. Because cancellation is only about the other side, the me too is only about the other side, the homophobia is only about the other side. That's it. And you know, it's like this all, you're either with me or against me, which is supposedly a quote from Jesus, which is a weird quote from Jesus, right? Like, you're either with me or against me, like, well, I mean, I'm with you. But what if they're against you? You don't love them either? Can't be, their their their, Bible. You can't be, oh so you're either love or get the fuck out? Because when Jesus says

Starting point is 01:02:30 that you kind of question it, but when people like George Bush say it, you're like, okay, you're a scumbag, that's like, that's emotionally manipulating people. And then you see with all this trans stuff and everything either you're 100% trans and trans blowing trans to show how much you love him or you're a tranophone. It also has a question I mean the Bible does it I mean Jesus says he he was not with me is against me but what does being with Jesus mean you know does that just mean expressing love and being generous to people in your life? What does it? Yeah I mean it interesting. So you got these guys and they're ripping off this witch Maria Bobamovich or whatever name, babobo, what's her name? Marina a Brahminas. Marina Abramovich, she's a

Starting point is 01:03:14 witch, she's a high witch at the high occult levels. Her art is garbage but their their their all kissing the ring ring. And these unremarkable vanilla human beings jack it off to try to act like they're, and you see that's Hollywood, right, stealing people's ideas all the time. That's what they do. They, it's, it's a form of limited hangout. They want to have the credit for it.

Starting point is 01:03:40 So, and they create this thing where Shilabov is going to look into a live streaming and He will not divide us and chaos breaks out. Just chaos. America and microcosm is what it seems like. It was the idiot. This movie breaks it down so well. It's like if the internet appeared on a street. You know what it is?

Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah. If the internet was embodied on a street corner. So they do this, they put this thing, it's in New York City, and he's just, the whole plan is, and it's so hilarious. By the way, why does he always look like he's getting ready to go on, so he's going to do this, this thing. Tell us a little bit about what he wanted to do. Yeah, so he wanted to have this art project, this cool.

Starting point is 01:04:34 He wanted it to be, you know, written about, and, I don't know, fancy journals or something. He wanted to the New York Times, you know, a triumph, you know, getting all those headlines of how amazing and creative and interesting this is, I assume. And you know, he wanted people to join in, he wanted people to take it seriously and do the chant and don't try and make fun of it, don't come and do anything weird. And that's exactly what happened. People from Fortune got a hold of it. They started sharing clips of it on Fortune and say, hey, Shire's out here doing some wanky art project in front of a live stream. Someone go say something. Someone go in front of it.

Starting point is 01:05:18 You know, they can't, you can't go say something in a live stream. It's streaming live. What are you going to do? Pull the whole thing who was the first person slowly son no no who was the first person to troll it like how long into the into him saying he will not divide us like a day two days to like all the true by the end of day one they already had people showing up it was like day one it was quick, you know, it started with these guys, absolute plaid man and some of these other guys who showed up. And I think they were just blasted. I think they'd been drinking all day. And they showed up. And they showed up. And at first, so it started tame.

Starting point is 01:06:05 That's the funniest thing is the one-upsmanship. That was what was driving the entire trolling insanity. It was the one-opsmanship. So you go to a live stream that a celebrity has, and you go there, and you start saying the wrong thing. And you start saying, oh, they were trying to come up with phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases the phrases start saying the wrong thing and you start saying, oh, they were trying to come up with phrases that sounded similar, he will not divide us, so they go,

Starting point is 01:06:30 we love empanadas, that's what they started saying. So they started going, they go, we love empanadas, we love impanadas. And so it was like subtle and it sounded kind of similar, so you can't get too mad at that you know Shaya was trying to ignore it but as the days go on and you know it was almost immediately this started happening but as the days go on and people started showing up and they oh I can do better than we love empanadas I can that I can think of something to say that might get Shaya riled up a bit more than we love Empanadas and eventually they started showing up and showing Pepe the Frog, saying Pepe

Starting point is 01:07:15 the Frog and showing memes and eventually they're going up and and saying like Hitler did nothing wrong try to explain asking if they can explain to Shire above why the Holocaust didn't happen. That was so fine. When he, watching it, watching him slowly realize he's being trolled in that moment where the guy is like, he's like, bro, if you just be nice, it's cool. He's like, no, it's t brain for a good, like, two seconds. Now, um, obviously Shaya had had a giant meltdown. Was this before after that? So, I think he's had a few meltdowns over his career, but he, so he, he had, he assaulted,

Starting point is 01:08:01 there was a couple of assaults, alleged assaults. He got arrested for one of them and then he sort of He sort of took a step back, but the big meltdown happened after the whole capture the flag incident, which was the real viral element to the story. That's the part that everyone knows, which was I don't know if you want to get into that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can totally get into that. So, so basically what happens is this, this, things going on, it's getting more and more heat. All these cloud chasers are coming on to ride Shilabuf's dick. And then, uh, uh, all these fortune trolls are like trying to call in the big guns. One of them is Nick Fuentes.

Starting point is 01:08:52 Now I don't know if he got called him, but he went. He's super young in this movie. I think he's like 18 at the time. He's also still super young, by the way. And what are your thoughts on Nick Fuentes? My thoughts on Nick Fuentes, he's a Nazi. No, just kidding. Everyone's a Nazi. I think he's a, he's, well, he's so very, um, he was very cool.

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Starting point is 01:09:53 But you know, he's a strong Catholic guy. He's very into his Catholicism. He's very into all that hardcore Catholicism stuff. And yeah, very, very smart guy, very, very smart guy. It's hard to believe he's only 24. Yeah, edgy, political guy, you know, very edgy. Yeah, I mean, I think he's incredibly smart. I think to be at his age, to be that big of a profile, let you know how smart he is.

Starting point is 01:10:27 He has incredible data. And because the internet allows people very young age to have access to a big crowd, sometimes they move a little quicker that maybe it would be best for them, and not that Nick is being held back or that he stumbled at all, but he has such great data that I think that if he found a way to deliver it in a way that is more digestible, it might go a little farther. Now he doesn't need my advice and he's doing great and he's crushing it. And at first I didn't like him because I heard all the stuff he's saying and obviously I think he has a lot of very valid points about Zionism.

Starting point is 01:11:12 I don't you know and obviously he's very good at PR hooking his wagon to Cony a at the right time getting on that show going on Alex Jones multiple times and then obviously he must be a tie-hocusing it's the times and then obviously he's the the the the time getting on that show going on Alex Jones multiple times and then obviously must be devastated that Kanye West now forgives the Jews because of 21 jump streets. Yeah Jonah Hill has restored respect. I mean that is should have been super bad at least. Yeah I should have been super well I would rather think fat Jonah Hill changes you more than thin, confused Jonah Hill, which is going through something right now. Like, what are you?

Starting point is 01:11:50 Jonah Hill's got some of that shy energy, honestly. I mean, right now he does for sure. For sure. So I find him to be interesting, and I think that. He is very intelligent, dude. That's what I give from him, he's able to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that, that's that's th. to that's going, to to to the to to to to to to the to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that I think he's very intelligent dude that's what I give from him he's able to cite data that I think most people are too afraid to look at and that's why I give him the respect because he is laying it on the line I just I can't imagine what the people in his family say to him because I get so much shit from my family in so many

Starting point is 01:12:26 different ways. They're very loving to me but they're like please could you turn it down. I could imagine what his family. You don't think they have some of those values since he got them at 18. I mean he these but I mean you don't get it I mean unless he's been reading books and watching Doc Mary since he was like like he's that smart it's possible I'm not. I I I I I I I I I I I I they. they. they. they. they. he. he. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they's th. th. th. they're th. th. th. thi. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like. they're like. they're like. they're like. thi. thi. t. t. tole. tole. tole. ttole. tttole. tole. tttole. they're they're they're they're they're they're they I think but he's that smart it's possible I'm not it was a joke I know I'm just telling you I'm pretty sure his promise family might be he's Catholic they might obtain those some of those values you like all right yeah so he's a very and like this is him very early understanding how to play the game very well and understanding the opportunity of that and to walk in with them, you know,

Starting point is 01:13:05 Make America Great Again into that kind of like nerd dork beta progressive cook. That's balls. Yeah, yeah, when Shaya is the alpha in a particular group, that's not a, it doesn't say much with a masculinity collected there. I think he's masculine. No, no, I said when he is the the alpha though, of the entire, like you have 100 people and he's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, uh, like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, uh, th, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the masculinity collected there. I think he's masculine. No, no, I said when he is the alpha though, the entire, like you have 100 people and he's like the alpha dog. Yeah. It's not saying much.

Starting point is 01:13:32 Yeah, it's with, for those who, um, who don't know. That was actually the first time where Nick was, he wasn't known. He wasn't the first time. thuuuust. thust. thust. thi first thi first thi first thi first thi first thi first thi thi thi. thi. the first the first the first the first thi. the first thi. the first thi. the first the first thi. the first the first thi. the first the first the first the first the first the the the the the the the the the the the the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first. the first. the first. the first. the first. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the th. He wasn't a personality at all at that point. He wasn't famous. He wasn't well known. He was just a college kid and he was 18 and he just went down. The only thing politically had done at that point was volunteer on the Trump campaign. That was, as far as I'm aware from talking with him, that was his, he became political in university like he became, that was like how his, where his political ideologies, his, his philosophies were all formed in university during

Starting point is 01:14:14 that time and so this is like pre, this is like primordial Nick Fuentes. This is like the first public thing, you know, and and it's interesting that you say, you know, you didn't like him at first, you know, I, I, I, I found this out. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th th th th th th the first public thing, you know. And it's interesting that you say, you know, you didn't like him at first. You know, I found this out. I was like, oh, this guy, everyone's, you know, like Nick Fuentes is a Nazi. And I was like, oh, this really, like, this Nazi guy went there. I'll go and I'll go and interview and that'll be interesting. And I was like, this guy doesn't really seem like a Nazi. And then, you know, he was very cool, very respectful. Like you said, very smart, very hospitable. And then I started looking into his stuff and I was like, oh yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:52 He's got some edgy political views, absolutely. But he's been, he has been totally misrepresented in the media. And so, yeah, smart guy, massive balls. And very, very interesting that he's working with, with yay, Kanye West now. That I just can't wait to see what happens with that. That's so fascinating. That's the word for it. Fascinating.

Starting point is 01:15:15 Well, you know, what it is is, Nick has uncomfortable truths and facts. And some of the stuff that he talks about is stuff that people don't want to look at. And and is he correct on everything? Nobody bats a thousand. But there are a lot of things that if we actually sat down and looked at the data, you'd be like, oh wow. And but people don't want to look at that because people enjoy living in the paradigms that they have accepted. These accepted paradigms, like, you know,

Starting point is 01:15:52 it's like if you look at comedy, you know, there's certain pair, I do a joke about called oppression math, right? And that is, as a comic walks to the stage, the crowd starts calculating how much his people demographic has been oppressed. And based on that is what they can get away with. And obviously the top of the pyramid is a fat black gay midget,

Starting point is 01:16:15 and he can scorch the earth. And but these are acceptable paradigms that people really, really, you know, when a black comic walks out on stage and it's like, oh, it's time for the black show, the black portion of the show, and white people laugh. Or when black people, black comics say the M word, white people laugh. Even though if you heard them, if you were to wipe or say, they would run around like the sky is falling. Because these are acceptable paradigms that they want to, they want to work work work work work work to work their their their their their run around like the sky is falling because these are acceptable paradigms that they want to they want to work in. That's just the

Starting point is 01:16:50 way it is. So Nick has data that doesn't fit those acceptable paradigms and people get upset about it. It's kind of like what you said before about his delivery. It's like he has the he's talks about some of the hardest pills to swallow but then there's like absolutely the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the a the a the a the a s absolutely absolutely the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theyc. Ia.a.a. I's thozy. I's thia. I's theyp. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they.a. I's they. I's they. I's like. I's like. I's like. I's like. I's like. I's like. I's like. I's like. I'm they. I'm they. It's they. It's they. It's th. It's. It's. It's. It's like. It's. It's. It's. It's like. I'm. It's like. It's like. It's like. I's like. I his delivery. It's like he has the he's talks about some of the hardest pills to swallow. But then there's like absolutely no sugar coating it either. So it's like extra. the way he presents it is also in the most edgy possible way. So it's it makes the hard pills even extra hard to swallow. So yeah, it's kind of great. So all this shows up, Sam Hyde shows up, he's like, it's like, Sam Hyde showing up is like when the Ultimate Warrior would show up at Madison Square Garden and run into the ring and just beat up everybody. Like, it was an event.

Starting point is 01:17:38 They should have been like Stone Cold's music playing in the background. Yeah, just like, he shows up, it's an event, and now it's gotten into this kind of bizarre place. It's a happening. But what I liked about Sam Hyde is he goes, you know, first of all he says I don't want to go too much in on Shiloh because he's been through a lot. And that to me says that, you know, Sam Hyde has a lot of people want to give him credit for. And he wanted to meet Shiloh. I mean like who didn't want to do that?

Starting point is 01:18:08 It's a funny because he did say that he's like, I just wanted to go meet Shilabu. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Which is kind of dangerous for Shilabuff to just be standing there, chilling, looking at a wall, knowing who he is, celebrity status. Well, I mean like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Well, I mean like, well, this is what happens. I know, but I just, I thought, I mean, yeah, you're right. Hey, what happened? He's the craziest person there, let's be honest, so I think. I don't know about that, bro.

Starting point is 01:18:35 I don't know. I mean, he's whacked out. New York City, they show up. So shit gets too crazy in New York, people manipulating, people making the mistake of giving out their personal information. Dude, this one guy gives out his Instagram. Yeah, yeah, that was the best. And his mother calls 10 minutes later going, I'm a show. I'm on this show. I heard you had a gun. Oh, because they had the same red hat. They had the same red hat. Somebody was trolling Shai LeBuff and said there's a man in this square with a red hat and he's armed.

Starting point is 01:19:13 And then the police show up and this guy who just showed up there happened to have a red hat on and a pocket full of shrooms. And they like, and they like, they like, they're like, he's they let him stand up and he's like am I out of this and they're like yeah sorry dude I think that was a prank call somebody was saying you had a gun and they were actually trying to get shy a well that's cool that the cops understanding that yeah because they could have been like you're going to jail for Shrooms well they didn't see this they were just patting down for arms you okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay okay they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to they they were to they they were they were to they to they they were they they they they they were they they were they they they were they they they they they they they they guy, that guy man, it was so funny and and he's actually a comedian in New York. He's a really really funny guy, Sean Malia, but he was telling me the story. And I can laugh, watching the documentary I can laugh at it, but at the time, like he was like, dude, this was like one of the most stressful times in my life.

Starting point is 01:20:02 And he continued to get dark stuff that. Sorry to laugh again, Sean. But yeah, good on him for being a good sport about it. Because he came on to do the interview and he's like, is this going to happen again? When this documentary comes out, they're going to remember me and try and fuck with me again. And I was just like, I don't don't th know, I don't th know, I don't th know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I, I, I don't, th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th.. th. th. th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th th. Yeah, th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the th anyway. So yeah, shout out to Sean Malia that great guy, very funny guy. But yeah, he got away with, he almost went to jail for shrimps.

Starting point is 01:20:33 There's a lot of chaos like the whole, all that food that got delivered didn't get eaten in for Shilam. It was it was wild. It's crazy dude. It is such a good movie. And then they move to New Mexico and that is hilarious because he's like I'm a move somewhere I could be safer. New Mexico bro that's where breaking bad happened bro I mean it's like chaos and of course with a moment just violence more guns definitely more guns in New Mexico than New York real guys like real yeah fake pranks dude shows up and I Mean fucking real gangster showing up to fights breaking out. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah Albuquake was even mall wild and they ended up they ended up shutting it down because it

Starting point is 01:21:25 was like a drive-by shooting just like 50 meters away and that you know there was people flat like there was in you see in the documentary people coming up to the camera and flashing guns that happened multiple times you only showed one time in the documentary but that happened multiple times it was yeah it was it was wild at that and I think it only last in like a week or two it was very the the the the the the to to to to the to to to to to to the to the to to to to the to the to the to the to the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was the the the te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. I was te. the the the the the tte. times. It was, yeah, it was wild out there. And I think it only lasted like a week or two in Albuquerque. It was over very quick. It was like a, I think it was a couple months in New York and then it was like a week in Albuquerque.

Starting point is 01:21:55 How did you want to talk about what happened next with a flag? Because that's the craziest part. Well my favorite thing, yes, the last thing is like Albuquerque rappers were showing up and people were getting them to give out the Heil Hitler's, they didn't even know. They were signing them to record deals where they didn't even know what the record label was. Well, was that number they had him saying 14 what? It was a certain number that had to do a Hitler. Yeah, it was so fucking funny dude. He goes, yeah, that's cool. I'm gonna get 1488 tattooed on my neck. That's cool. If you don't know what 1488 is, it's, it's a white supremacist saying,

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Starting point is 01:23:24 out loud so many times at this movie, and because there's so much bizarre chaos. It's like, it's like woke, liberals take on internet trolls, and it's like the greatest battle for humanity ever. Yeah. And reaching out to people, I, I, did you find that, that the greatest battle for humanity ever. Yeah. And reaching out to people, did you find that the people trolling were more willing to talk to you about it than the people who were actually there with genuine intent? Yeah, that was the weirdest thing. Like no one, um, I thought it would be very interesting

Starting point is 01:24:02 when I started the project. I thought it would be very interesting, you know, we're talking, like what we were talking before about the two people living in two different universes. And I thought it would be so interesting to have the two perspectives running at the same time. Like the trolls going, ha ha, we did this practical joke, we were drinking milk, and then the other guys going, oh my goodness, I have PTSD because we're doing these Nazi symbols drinking. And seeing the detachment from each other's reality, I thought that would be really interesting. So I reached out to the artists.

Starting point is 01:24:35 I reached out to some of these people who were there. Some people did go in, some of the people who were pro Shia and pro the art project. You had two or three of them in there, but most people didn't want to talk to me. It was the trolls, it was the trolls who were actually interested. I even reached out to journalists who went and covered it, like vice journalists and different things like that. Just got totally ghosted. And then I was like, the main things, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, tot, tot, the tot, totally, totall, was totally, was totally, was totall, was tota, was tot, was tot, was the tred, was the tred, was the tred, was, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot, was tot...... totall, was totall, was totall, was totalled. totalled. totalled. totally, was totalled. totalled, was totalled, was just just just just just. totalled, was just just just just. totalled, was just main thing, like the thing that people would really want to see, or the

Starting point is 01:25:05 thing that I would really want to see is, what kind of people did this? Who were the guys who did that? What was the, what were they like? What was their story? You know, especially the capture the flag thing. And so I was like, we gotta get the trolls to tell the story, you've got to see that. Otherwise, you don't have a, you don't have a documentary. And that was very hard to find, it was very hard to find them. But once I found each person, I got on the phone with them and I had to convince them basically that I wasn't going to make them them look like a villain and paint them in a bad light. Yeah, so it was, it was tricky. So it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. You. You. You. You. You. their, it was, it was, it was, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. th. thtricky it was tricky to. You respected their pronouns too with their their 410 handles as well.

Starting point is 01:25:50 That was very cool. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, you know, we won't put your real name. We don't want you to get docs. There's people there who work in like, you would be surprised, high level jobs in big cities. And then there's people who are a bit more, what you would expect, a stereotypical troll would be like,

Starting point is 01:26:10 you know, musicians, normal people, we had people. I mean, talking about weird people, that paper boy prints, he kind of made the show, because it was a whole different aspect of everyone else, where it was like, yeah. He was looking at his like Shalabuff like he's there and he's like we're just here for love peace and then you had him he kind of he was part of the show where it was he made it great I was like oh this guy's great there's no wrong with that right a game boy a full on

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Starting point is 01:27:13 Nick Fuentes, I was so happy to get the Nick Fuentes documentary, sorry, the Nick Fuentes interview, but that happened, that happened like last minute. I bumped into someone who knew him. I couldn't get a hold of him and someone was like oh I know him I'll reach out and da da da da that happened but the one I was really trying to get was the Sam Hyde interview and that's the one that blew me away because that's he had all this inside the information that I totally didn't expect I was totally taken off God but yeah Sam High, brilliant comedian and very influential for millennials and Gen Z, like we really look up to it for Sam Hyde. It's crazy that somebody

Starting point is 01:27:51 brought Sam Hyde to an art festival, like a... We got paid, you got technically paid. Well yeah, I mean, they really sent him there to kind of blow the thing up, right? Is it was the idea of 10? But, but you remember where he goes to the art festival before? Yeah, I know your name. Venice film festival, yeah. The film festival. Someone brought Sam Hyde to that? That's hilarious. Well, he went to art school.

Starting point is 01:28:15 He's a thrown. Yeah. Yeah, Sam, I went to. art person and by background. He's an artistic giant. Yeah. He's a big boy. I got a quick question. You said there was some insider stuff. I'm sure you didn't let everything out. I got it was the milk guy part of the scheme? Did someone send him because it seemed to work out perfectly how it worked out how it was racist. Oh it's because black people are intolerant to milk and it was like ah like it was just like it seemed like someone it seemed too perfect like someone sent in that guy to just drink milk and then someone ran with it. Yeah yeah well there's so many

Starting point is 01:28:52 conspiracies about it I think from I've done a lot of research looked into a lot my belief is that he was totally genuine I didn't have any suspicions that that was sort of organized. But he, you know, he's a very unusual guy. He didn't want to be on camera. He was the only person who refused to be on camera. He did an audio interview and we did all that. But that is a really bizarre how that, how that so perfectly went from just a weird guy drinking milk to the national

Starting point is 01:29:26 conversation Stephen Colbert and the New York Times talking about this new hate symbol it definitely does have the vibe that it was it's too perfect. I see that when I was watching I was like you're gonna tell me at the end that that that Luke Turner sent that guy to drink milk to start this racist thing that's what I was like I was already trying trying trying trying trying trying. trying. trying. trying. try. trying. trying. try. try. try. I was try. I was try. I was try. I was to to to to. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was to to to to. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tttttttttttttte. this racist thing that's what I was like I was already trying to figure it out so hilarious dude and fortune is a giant reason why everything becomes a symbol of something they just ask her term of yeah yeah remember the racist you're Mexican races guys guys Mexican Nazi oh man oh man I was I mean that's okay okay oh you. Guys, Mexican Nazi. Oh man, oh man, oh right. That was, I mean, that's okay.

Starting point is 01:30:06 Oh, you can be a Mexican Nazi, he didn't like that. So, so, uh, someone shows up with gun. Let's, they're like, we gotta move again. They shut down the stream and it appears again. And, uh, this becomes the most incredible thing because never fuck with autistic people. That's what I, that's what you will learn. Never fuck with the ats, bro,

Starting point is 01:30:29 because they bring hammers of the gods on everybody. So, tell us a little bit about the flag situation. Yeah, so, so it started in New York as a live stream, then it moved to Albuquerque, things got too wild in New York, moved it to Albuquerque, got crazy, they shut it down. And this is when they switched the format because I think, I think they had too much pride to just shut it down. Because it's like anytime we reopen it, people are going to come, people are going to fuck with it, people are going to embarrass us, make fun of us, say edgy jokes.

Starting point is 01:31:07 So my theory is that they thought we want to keep this project alive. We can't say that Fortune 1, we can't say that they beat us. We want to continue the project, have the live stream for four years, but how can we insulate it so that no one can make fun of it, no one control it, no one can mess with it anymore. So they came up with this idea to set up a flag and they would pick a secret location rather than advertising the location like they did in the other projects and encouraging people to come. They put it in a secret location so no one knows where it is. No one can come on they put it in a secret location. So no one knows where it is. No one can come on the camera. And all it is is a, it's just a live stream camera pointing up at a flag that's

Starting point is 01:31:51 waving in the sky. A white flag with black letters that says he will not divide us on the flag. There it is. Yeah, there it is. And, um. It's so. You can see the way the angle of the camera that if you want to bring that back up, see that? It's blue sky in the back. That's what it looks like. So they set it up in a way that you wouldn't see any of the surroundings. There's no clues or anything as to where it might be. And then they relaunch it and they launch it and they put it back on. the live stream. And so all the the the the the their the? It was in New York, then Albuquerque is it going to be you know LA is it going to be you know Chicago some another major city the live stream comes back on and boom there's a flag there and then all of these guys are like oh no our funds are ruined we can't go and fuck the child of us fun and then And then immediately they go, you know what, as revenge for them ruining our fun, which their fun was ruining Shire the Bus fun, we've got to find out where this flag is.

Starting point is 01:32:51 We've got to track it down. We've got to, we've got to figure out the location somehow using whatever clues that we can, and we've got to go there and get on the camera again like we have been enjoying for the past few months. So that's what they did. And then what followed was this insane international organization of anonymous trolls on the internet who they organized themselves to pursue all these clues to try and find all these clues to see if they can figure out where this flag was. And, and some of the things thinks that they ended up using the the the the they they they they they they they they their they they they their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. tho. they tho. they tho. they tho all these clues to try and find all these clues to see if they can figure out where this flag was.

Starting point is 01:33:27 And some of the things that they ended up using, weather, they had meteorologists, whether they were looking at the weather, they were looking at sounds. There was still audio on the stream, so they were looking at sounds. They could hear frogs. They were trying to see if we can try out sound sound sound sound sound sound sound sound, the the thetrying to see. Can we map the species of frogs across the United States? Oh my God. And see if we can track down like where the species live and then, you know, the sun went down and the stars came out. They're using like advanced trigonometry and and astronomy to map the stars to see if they can use, you know, like Vikings used to do to figure out where the location is and the flag. th thamamamamamamamamamamamamamamamam amazing. And to to to to to to to to to to they. they. to they. they. they. they. they. to they. to to their to to their to to their their their to to their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their their. the. to toe. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toe. their. their. their. their. their. their. their to see if they can use, you know, like Vikings used to do to figure out where the location is in the flag. Amazing stuff. I had to get, I had to interview an expert on, it's called Celestial Navigation is what it's

Starting point is 01:34:15 called. I didn't interview an expert on Celestial Navigation to figure out how they used the stars to help track down because it's just so complicated what they did. Yeah. Unbelievable. I'm proud of I mean I'm just proud of their achievements really you know I just let you know that you you won't get away with anything. And that's the power yeah and that's all of them working together. Because one part there's no way one per it was like one dot here connects one dot and then one dot one dot one dot one dot and then. You you you you you you you you you you you you you you you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th th th. th. the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, thoo, tho-a. tho, tho-I's th. then one dot one dot one dot and then you know your documentary reminds me in some ways of this documentary was on Netflix a couple years back called don't fuck with cats did you did you remember that yes yeah it's similar anyways because it shows you the power of of you know disparate people people spread out across the world

Starting point is 01:35:00 united by a common purpose over the internet and what they can do yeah yeah it's interesting you bring that up because because th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the th the th th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the thi the the the the the. the. the. the the the the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the internet and what they can do. Yeah, it's interesting you bring that up because don't fuck with cats was a big inspiration to me. Oh really? Yeah, it was. And also the style of the documentary because because you have, like, don't fuck with cats, is you have people sitting on Facebook. That was all Facebook was all Facebook groups rather than 4 chain groups and they're coordinating to solve an internet mystery in a similar way. And you know you have this very compelling story. It's true crime, true crime,

Starting point is 01:35:38 documentary series and it's told, a lot of it is told through the frame of a screen. So difficult. It's very difficult to do and I watch thatld a lot of it is told through the frame of a screen so difficult it's very difficult to do and I watched that documentary and I said wow these guys did an amazing job and they they were able to tell a really interesting story great great documentary really I think it's a best stuff my favorite documentary on Netflix really are you familiar with this Sam have you seen this don't fuck I I can't I can't watch it I they when people hurt animals. It's not, it's not mostly about, I mean, that's just a brief thing. It's a, it's a group that tracks down, this guy who's posting these videos with his face.

Starting point is 01:36:12 This guy's kind of, you know, doing, you know, doing, you know, doing,, like they track down this flag, you know, using like they would analyze like the types of sockets in the room, the door handles and things like that. Yeah. And they eventually, you know, tracked down this guy who is just like a jet setter. He's all over the world and they finally tracked his ass down. But yeah, it's reminded me a lot of your film actually. Yeah, well I took inspiration from that, you know, they proved that you could tell a compelling and exciting story using a large part of it just being screen, you know, seeing the screen and seeing how people are interacting on the screen and searching and all that.

Starting point is 01:36:55 So well done to them, you know, I took inspiration. Well, I loved your movie and is there anything else you'd like to, anything else you'd like to talk about in your movie? Because it was great, dude. I can't recommend it enough. It is an absolutely amazing movie, dude. Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, I think if people like that, if people like stories of, I really love the aspect of, it's these guys taking back power in a very bizarre and strange way, you know,

Starting point is 01:37:31 they, this grassroots movement of trolls, you know, trying to, trying to make their own mark in their silly little way. And so if you like that, sort of the grassroots, you know, the 99% versus the 1% percent, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, th.... power, th....e, th.e, th.e, th.e, th.e, th.e, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their own mark in their silly little way. And so if you like that, sort of the grassroots, you know, the 99% versus the 1%, the internet stories, you know, you're going to want to check it out. And they eventually, you probably, if you're not familiar with the other parts of the story, you're probably familiar with the capture the flag because they eventually found it, and the way that they found it is just so incredible and I've never seen it explained properly. And so I did all this research and we put this documentary together really and interviewed experts to explain how they did this. And they did it in less than 48 hours. That's the insane thing. These online trials found this flag in less than 48 hours

Starting point is 01:38:29 and stole it and yeah, I don't want to give away too much about what happens how they did that. But yeah, if you're into that sort of stuff, Fortune, into that culture, you're really gonna wanna check it out. It's a great film. And thanks, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, than, and than, and than, and than, and tho, and thi, and thi, and tho, and tho, and to to to to to to to to to to tho, and tho, and tho, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and than, and than, and than, and than, and than, and than, and tolda.... And, and tooan, and tooan, and told.. And, and than, and than, and th the for the amazing review the best review so far So you know the kids are loving it everyone's loving it What was the web address again for the for the film the dividers documentary

Starting point is 01:38:53 that yeah so you go there you can it's got the links to Amazon there you can Google if you just want to go on Amazon or movies plus but if you want to see the options where you can buy it's the dividers documentary dot com, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you, so you the, so you the the the the the the the the the the the, so you the, so you the, so you the, so you the, so you the, so you the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the thi. the the to see the options where you can buy it, it's the Dividers Documentary.com. All right, Mell. Thank you. Josiah. Josiah. Thank you. Thank you. Bad ass. Yeah, it's a good name for credits too.

Starting point is 01:39:14 Yeah, Jossiah. I'm kind of upset I couldn't be part of the of the wall I would have wanted to be there for like quick two seconds you know Tim for hat hey man we don't have been a one if you want to find us cuz we'll be high as fuck right both oh dude Instagram eyebrow yeah yeah Sam acts like he wouldn't Sam acts like he wouldn't have been a one if there would have been in LA he he would have probably would at least send me go actually go put a tip for a to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out out to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the sticker go put a tip-foot sticker on it had to be walking this yeah i would have to be no sense of danger no then I'd have to assess whether there's feds gonna be well was it was there

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Starting point is 01:40:25 Yeah. So you hear, no, till you hear the fucking noises, bang off. And then you're like, holy shit, that's loud and real. Any, um, he will not divide us babies come out of this because there's some hot chicks there. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's. I's. I's. I's th. I's th. I's th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure I'm sure something happened. Yeah, probably one or two out there If you had a He will not divide his baby hit us up. We'd like to find out what the name was I think Josiah Would be a great name for us. Yeah, absolutely. All right Josiah. Thank you so much for coming on. This was a great episode a lot of fun discussion. I can't recommend your your movie enough. I hope you guys to enjoy it again. Go to San fri.com. to. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thino. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. He hea. He hea. He he will hea. He will hea. He will hee. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will he. He will the the th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will th. He will not th. He will not the the th. He will not th. He will not the tho. He will not the will not thi will not the the thi. He will not th. I hope you guys enjoy it. Again, go to San Frambley.com, check out the dates, Toronto Daddy's Coming, come get weird, grab your tickets for Comedy Chaos.

Starting point is 01:41:13 San Diego is in June. Hopefully I'll have some more shows before that. If not, I'll just enjoy staying in LA. Thank you guys for enjoying the show. Stay for some sneak peaks of some of the shows that I am doing elsewhere. So you look, five-man clips for you to enjoy. On the last one you got to hear XG try to explain World War II to Mexicans. It was incredible.

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Starting point is 01:41:58 Here's a clip. Johnny, I got another hot take. Are you ready for it? Always. Here's my hot tak, Johnny. So San Francisco is trying to propose to give every African American $5 million to make up for reparations. And as you know, Johnny, I am 12 million dollars? Five mil. Oh my goodness, makes you want to like just make friends with some black people. Well, dude, Johnny, guess what you're friends with a black person? I. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. So, I. So, to. to. to. to. to. to. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. So, I. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to like just make friends with some black people. Well dude Johnny, guess what? You're friends with a black person because I'm 12.5% black.

Starting point is 01:42:29 I'm 2% black. Yeah, we gotta find out what that number is. I'm 12.5. Are we gonna watch this? Well, I gotta hear this number. This is crazy. Five million dollars? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:42 San Francisco board opened to reparations with $5 million payouts. That's from NBC. The draft reparations plan released in December is unmatched nationwide and its specificity and breadth. So it's unmatched nationwide and its specificity, that's a small thing. That's a big thing. That doesn't make any sense. Johnny, that's a lot of liter... bullshit. Yeah, that's just some verbal. That's just some verbal jerkity. Yeah, that's just, that's that's that's a. That's that's that's just. That's just. That's just. That's just.. That's just. That's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, that's just, the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. $ $ $ $5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5.5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5.5. 5. 5. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. breadth. That's a big thing. That doesn't make any sense. Johnny, that's a lot of... Bullshit. Yeah, that's just some verbal jerking off right there. Payments of $5 million to... verbal masturbation.

Starting point is 01:43:14 Every eligible black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens guarantee... Hold on. Are they going to pay taxes. Well, I think any back taxes that they owe and any Oh yeah guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years. Oh my God and homes in San Francisco for just $1 per family. Oh my god. Dude, man, are you putting your, are you, how can they afford this? I don't even know, bro. They were some of the more than

Starting point is 01:43:51 100 recommendations made by a city appointed reparations committee tasked with the thorny question of how to atone for centuries of slavery and systemic racism. Dude that is so great. By the way as you know I'm 12.5% more. So you're owed whatever 12% of five million dollars. I'll take it. I'll take it. And I'm gonna use that money to open up my new store which is going to be a Cadillac Escalade and Gold Chain store called Whips and Chains. Okay and just bring it. You'll get the other five. Yeah, just bring your reparation checks down. We got escalates and we got gold chains.

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Starting point is 01:45:10 Can I just say this? In San Francisco, black residents once made up more than 13% of the city's population. But more than 50 years later, they account for less than 6% of the city's residents, and 38% of its homeless population. So you're talking about giving homeless people. Oh yeah, I mean, five million dollars. If there's anybody who's good with their money as a homeless.

Starting point is 01:45:30 Johnny, hear me out. 38% of your money to homeless. Yeah, we're gonna turn your pea jars into big, big dollars. Oh my god. Could you imagine, hey, you wanna get this crack pipe? It's only $15,000? Oh yeah, of course. I mean, dude, all of a sudden the price of the crack is up.

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Starting point is 01:46:39 homelessness is what you're supposed to say. Suddenly every homeless person from Fresno was just rushing to San Francisco. Oh what a nightmare. I mean, they really are just full I mean just morons running the government. Yeah, they're just idiots. It's total wasting their time. It's like they're it's like dumb spitballing. Yeah, it really, I mean, I would just imagine them kind of sitting around in these rooms, you know like, you know, I think. I they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just. I they're just. I they're just. I they're just. I they're just. I they're just. I they're just. I they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're just they're. they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just just just just they're just they're just just they're just. I they're just just they're just. I they're just just just. I they're just just. I they're just just just. I they're just. I they're just. I, it really, I mean, I would just imagine him kind of sitting around in these rooms, you know, like, you know, I think we should give them houses for $1. Yeah, why even a dollar at that point? And nobody checks that at all? No, and he's like, you know, that's a great idea. I think we should give him five million though. Yeah, they're just seeer ideas. I'm just getting dumber and

Starting point is 01:47:28 dumber and dumber ideas. I think we should all give them planets to go live on eventually. I think they should be able to just take any white woman they want. Take bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. They get prim, no, they you you can't get charged with murder if you're under 25 Bamp babba Charter bar bang bang bam bam Bam bam bam It's so stupid and here's a quick sneak peek of conspiracy social club enjoy Is obsessed with but Brian here's the conspiracy in this why is suddenly Instagram just chock full of hot tiny people?

Starting point is 01:48:07 Like everywhere there's a video of a smoke show tiny person. Okay, I don't have that. Y'allowing about how they're homey hoppers. So my algorithm isn't bringing me that? What's your algorithm got? My algorithm has got fighting crocodiles. It actually has fighting crocodiles and now dance tutorials. Dance tutorials.

Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah, because I'm into dance. Really? Yeah, my wife- What's your favorite dance? My favorite dance? I like all the shuffles. I like all that stuff. Bam, bump, no, the hip-hop stuff.

Starting point is 01:48:42 That you can actually do. I'm actually interested in doing it on stage for a joke. So I'm actually practicing. Do you have any moves? Not yet, I'm learning the running man. I'm learning stuff. As you know, I pick up on the stuff quickly. Brian, you might not know this, but I was one of the pioneers of break dancing.

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Starting point is 01:49:19 I'm gonna be good at it. I know when I see you and I you walk in a room I don't say that guy should be doing the windmill profession. Some people some people we were known as the HDI breakers okay. The HDI breakers? Yes we were sponsored by the holiday in. What does the HDI breaker mean? We were sponsored by the holiday in? They got us can goes and track suits that we breakdance. We're breakdancing again. That's incredible. Yeah. Congratulations. But the reason I bring it up is because have you, my new algorithm now on like YouTube I

Starting point is 01:49:52 watch it a lot is break dancing videos. Small people. No, not tiny people. That's on Instagram. Okay. On YouTube, a lot of break. And like break dancing has gone insane. Yeah, like they are defying gravity now. They're doing things you're like how do you do that? Like 20 years ago you'd be like oh you're gonna snap your smile. Yeah well

Starting point is 01:50:14 you know it I human beings if you can see it you can do it yeah to be able to conceive of it first right it's the famous story of Roger Bannister when he broke the four minute mile which people thought was physiologically impossible. Within that year I think five other people did it. Yeah. That's fascinating. People went well if a human being can do it, I can do it. So you just have to be able to conceive of what it is to an extent. Are you guys familiar with the year of lead or years of lead? No, what is that? Can you give that a read?

Starting point is 01:50:50 The years of lead, Italian Anidi Pionbo, is a term used for a period of social turmoil and political violence in Italy that lasted from the late 1960s until the 1980s. That was the Red Brigade, I remember it, marked by a wave of both far left and far right incidents of political terrorism, which was supported by the government to keep them in power. What do you think in right now, Dylan? Well, I just wanted to put the question to you guys. Are we living in our own? Yeah, that's a great question, Dylan. Poins for you. Well, the Red Brigade, which was a communist, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiii. thine, which was a the the the thine, the the the thine, th. the the the the the thian, the the the the the thi, the the the thiolist, th. theouc, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the th. th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the th. their, th. their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. thri. thri-s. theauu. thri. theau. theau. thri. theau. theau. theau. th Dylan points for you. Well the the Red Brigade which was a communist terrorist organization they found out was supported by the government this social Democrats wherever they are who were

Starting point is 01:51:36 in power for so long because they were using the Red Brigade to kill off political opponents to keep them in power. Caused chaos. Cause chaos and stuff like that. So that is a fact of Italian history. So if you want to talk about a conspiracy and actual deep government corruption, yeah. They also had very, very deep inroads with the mafia, as do the Mexican drug cartels. The drug cartels have very deep connections with the mafia as as do the Mexican drug cartels. Drug cartels have very

Starting point is 01:52:05 deep connections with the Mexican government. Yeah. The Mexican government. Okay. Yeah, you know that Pablo Escobar's children said that he was a CIA operative. You know that. They might have said that but they wouldn't know because they were very young. Okay. They would know. Yeah you'd have to see. the to. Yeah, you know the the today. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the C. the. the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they were very young. Oh, they wouldn't know. Yeah, you'd have to see. Nobody goes, oh, by the way, your dad works with the CIA. Right, because you see, they were super young. You know El Choppel was one of the top donors to the Democratic Party? You know that right. You know that, right? He might have been to a great topic and your deflection to it again, okay? I'd like to do that.

Starting point is 01:52:46 Dylan, that was a game. Dylan, you are 100%. It's a combination of both your wonderful question and your retarded deflect. So let's combine these two things and say 100%. What is going on right now is, was it the age of lead, did you call? The years of lead. And just like you brought up, it is, in my humble opinion, government, corporation sponsored. Hey, what's up? You're stoners? Here's a quick little clip.

Starting point is 01:53:21 If we don't smoke the same, check it out. I just think it's fucked up, the men only really have one option when it comes to getting a bitch pregnant. One option, really, cotton. That's it. Not really, did you hear the good news? Did you hear the good news? Did you hear the good news though?

Starting point is 01:53:34 Yeah, that it's coming, but it's still a trial run. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it, no, it, it, no, no, it, no, no, it, no, no, no, no, no, it, no, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. that, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really. th. th. th. th. Really. th. Really. th. th. Really. th. th. Really. th. th. th. Really. th. th. th. th. th. th. Really. th. th. th. Really. th. th. Really, really. th. th. th. th. that, really, that, that, that, that, that, that, really, that, really, that, really, that, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, you could buy it. Dude, females have so many options. But, but think of, if a female tells you, you have to wear a condom, what do we always do? Wear a fucking condom. Not once have I been like, would you have a fucking bitch? No, I put the conno. Would you have more empathy? Like, because don't get it. feel like is man we take that birth control shit like lightly but that shit has repercussions like this is the reason your bitch acts up sometime okay

Starting point is 01:54:05 there's the reason your bitch starts crying because you tell her like hey like you know I said it was certain word a little bit louder than I should have a. to say exa. I said I said I still want to live that bachelor life male birth control you just tell a bitch don't to to tell the the the shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit I I I I I I I the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're not I they're to to to to they're to they're they're they're they're they're like I'm I'm they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they try try try try try try try try try try try try try try tell you try try tell you they're they're they're they're that bachelor life. Male birth control, you just tell a bitch, don't worry about it. I'm on the fucking pill. I can just, you shoot up the club every night. Bam, bam, bam, just shooting up nuts every there. This is blanks. But then you start seeing their repercussions, two days out of the thea,two days out of the month your build dochering if you're just sad no depressed I don't blame him dude I said

Starting point is 01:54:47 any girl who takes birth control if that shit makes you fat that makes you your hormones out of place shout out to you for taking it for your man for busting a lot of nuts in you if you're doing that's what my girl be getting mad sometimes I don't blame you don't blame that's why I'm a But at the end of the day girls have a lot of control about when they get pregnant Girls have a lot of control about when they get pregnant But he got a condom is some bullshit though like a major bullshit like that's the only option Like have you let's be real let's let's let's let's address the elephant in the room Calm so no I mean besides comments have he ever put a condom and then set their all as ganas Germany you read book do you go high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high high the the the to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go the the the the the the their their their their to their their their their their to th th you th their th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they's ganas. Germany, you read a book, do you go to high school?

Starting point is 01:55:26 Yeah, bro, but fuck you, bitch. And you went to Pearl Harbor? Do you know what happened with Pearl Harbor? I know what happened with Pearl Harbor. These fools were sleeping and these fools were just started dumping on. Middle of night, dog. Yeah, he came in high. No, no, no, you're framing, but that shit is, that shit, the balls though, bro, like the boss to really be like, nah, it's cool, we got this.

Starting point is 01:55:48 I'm like, fool, do you know who you just, who you just bombed? And the United States did not want to go into this war, they were like, we're fucking. They're like, we didn't want to it was rose of I think you're wrong about that it was Eisenhower I don't know man whoever it was that fool was no punk bitch I'll tell you that what that fucking said nah drop the fucking nuke bro he was that's that's that's the that's the trump that's the trump of that era that's the trump of that era bro okay so going to the Google search we got Franklin D Roosevelt FDR and Harry S Truman trumann died or past and then FDR FDR no FDR died the FDR died and then Harri is okay you're right you're right everything is in reverse, you're right. You're right.

Starting point is 01:56:45 Everything's in reverse with you, huh? Green, I'm, I know she's not. ESL doesn't stand as, it doesn't just stand for English is the second language. Xavier is everything, second language. Yeah, bro, numbers, fucking, like, sides. Xavier, is there a conspiracy theory on FDR's The deal remember he had a deal that fool was an American man bro Straight out that's what was a it was a hot he like he preserved the parks. He was a grizzly man bro

Starting point is 01:57:12 Well the conspiracy the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. You just put my mind. Tim foil hack. foil hatchet, foil, hatchet, foil, hatch, foil.

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