Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #671: The Ridiculous Terror Plot To Kidnap Gretchen Whitmer With Christina aka Radix Verum

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Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Good morning, Swarm and welcome the tip-aul hat. You know what I am. You know what I'm here to do. Are you ready to get your mind done? Good morning, Swarman. Welcome with the tip ball hat.

Starting point is 00:00:48 You know what I am. You know what I'm here to do? I'm here too. Roa. Jordan me as always, Xavier Graro and on the ones to do juicy. Who's a junny. Jnoy. I'm just going that is the best name ever

Starting point is 00:01:06 Why don't we give him a nickname Johnny I have a lot not that we tard illiterate drug tweaker like what name do you want those are more like deviant gay jewil I got a lot of names we'll think of something people are really going hard to pay on Tripoli lately so just you know living and loving. Guys got great show for you. We're very excited to have her on. Christina aka Reddick Reddick Verum. Did I get close on that? Let's hope and pray. She came on. She has a doc that's coming out. It's called Kidnap and Kill an FBI terror plot This is a this is a dangerous episode boys and girls We get dangerous on there. We break it down and it gets into what we've been discussing on the show a lot.

Starting point is 00:01:57 Everything is an intelligence operation. Once you start to realize that I. I'm really like being honest with you. I've been gotten, I've gotten in this kind of three anyways, I don't want to get into that. No, you're right. You got me thinking they're in everywhere. They're like, they have to be. No, I've got this place where I and I feel like what I'm where I'm at and hopefully a lot

Starting point is 00:02:29 of you guys are at, you're pulling your energy out, pulling your money out, and that's how you kill the machine in my humble opinion. So we'll see, Johnny brings up some great questions like, you know, is all this so sloppy? Is it so sloppy? Is it's thioppy? Is it being put put the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to be to be to be toe toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo thi the, this information that we're getting? Is it so sloppy? Is it being put out on purpose sloppy? Not linear warfare. It's super interesting, but it's a great episode. So I hope you guys enjoy.

Starting point is 00:02:55 I love it when, when the, when the, when the presenter has all the information lined up. She knows her shit. Yeah, she did a great job. She's, I had to off show. I feel like just words were escaping. I am. But I really care about the people who listen to show. I care about the swarm and I just want to put out the best product ever. So I hope you do enjoy it. Guys, listen, listen to everybody, okay? June 2nd, I am in Jackson, Mississippi. If you're anywhere near Jackson, Mississippi,

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Starting point is 00:07:19 We go deep home boy. Open your mic. Drink. All right, let's get into a very excited about this episode because I think it won. It's a super important topic and it's a story that I mean, another example of where conspiracy theor is right. I'm very excited. She she made this doc and we're here to talk about it. Please welcome Radic Barums, aka, we'll call her Christina. How are you, Christina? I'm good.

Starting point is 00:07:50 How are you? I'm doing great. Everybody, I hope you enjoy her, her, I hope you enjoy her, her, to enjoy her, the lens, to their lens, told us a little bit about yourself. screen. Thank you so much for joining us. We're very thankful. You're here for our listeners who may not be familiar with you. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our viewers, listeners can find you? Yes, absolutely. So I'm just a regular person. You know, I worked in law for many to the independent journalist and I followed the Whitmer case, and I've reported on many other similar cases as well, all kind of seeming to involve government corruption.

Starting point is 00:08:31 And as I reported on the Whitmer case, it became clear that nobody else was going to tell the true story there, and the need for a documentary just became very apparent, nobody else was going to do it. So I decided to get involved and taking that project on. I have a website right now currently under construction, but it has links to all the places you can find me. It's just RadixVarim. So if you want to find me on social media and stuff, there's one place you can go to, but I'm on YouTube as well.

Starting point is 00:09:05 Also just Radix-Varim and on Sub-Stack. Okay, so all of that will be on the, in the description below. Click any of the links you'll find her. Very excited to have you on. Thank you so much. It's a very important thing. You know, here we are in this kind of moment where something that we in the conspiracy community knew didn't happen, which was Russia Gate, Russian inclusion. We've had people on like Whitney Webb, who have told us this is being done on purpose, because they want to get us to not trust our electoral process. And I think you're starting to see it. And you're starting to see what's really going on. And, and on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on. And on on. And on the on the on the on the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the conspiracy, the the the conspiracy the conspiracy the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy, the conspiracy in the conspiracy in the conspiracy in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the conspiracy community thi thi they want to get us to not trust our electoral process. And I think you're starting to see it.

Starting point is 00:09:47 And you're starting to see what's really going on. And what the one side, and listen, dude, I think it's all George Bush death cult, but it seems to be coming from one side, which is the progressive left. Whatever they say about the right seems to be really happening on their side. And you know, we can go in forever about all the stuff on the right that's going on, but it just seems like today in this day and age of just like all everything's starting to come out. We're in crazy times right now with with what's going on with the FBI and all that stuff. What's your whole thoughts on all that? Yeah, really we are. we are. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to th. th. th. th. to to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that? Yeah, really we are. It's kind of disturbing to me how it feels like we're seeing like a resurgence of the kind of things that the FBI was doing back in the day, right? Like they're sort of like Pat Kahn operations, so things like Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City.

Starting point is 00:10:43 We haven't had a Waco again yet, thank God, but it seems sort of like that mentality within the FBI is there again, where they're seemingly targeting a certain group of people, and I think everybody can see that now. And this case certainly was, I think that, you know, when people talk about like what happened in 2020, they bring up mail-in voting and, you know, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, but, th, th, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, th, th, but, th, but, thi, but, thi, thi, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, thi, but, thi, but, but, thi, but, but, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, talk about like what happened in 2020 they bring up mail-in voting and you know some of the other I hunter Biden's laptop and the what we just learned about the what was it like 50 different intelligence officials that signed off on some letter saying that

Starting point is 00:11:20 this the stuff on this laptop was most likely like Russian disinformation or something and they knew that was nonsense but that that that that the that th-in th-in that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho-in tho-in the the tho-in tho-in tho-in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thean. thean. theanan. theanannelannelunnelunnelunnelunnelunnelant thelant thelant thelunnel. theannel. the the the the thethis the stuff on this laptop was most likely like Russian disinformation or something and they knew that was nonsense but that these were all things that happened like prior to the 2020 election that people thought were kind of done to sway the election but the Whitmer case was another one that I think people kind of forget also like these guys got arrested October 8th of 2020. It was like right before, one month before the election, you could call it an October surprise. And Gretchen Whitmer, the next day did this big press conference

Starting point is 00:11:55 where she said that these guys were like ISIS. Joe Biden did the same thing. Kamala Harris did it. And they kept bringing up Trump's tweets. Like th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thee, was theeeeeeeeee. thooooooooooooooo. the. the. the. the. thooo. th. th. th. th. th. th. Kamala Harris did it and they kept bringing up Trump's tweets like he had tweeted out at one point during these lockdowns, liberate Michigan, I think it was Minnesota and then liberate Virginia. He had tweeted this stuff out and they kind of used that to say oh because this happened in Michigan Trump radicalized and unleashed these you you know, violent, dangerous, white supremist, far-right extremists, and, you know, that scared people right before the election to think that, oh, the, thank God, the FBI foiled this plot to kidnap a governor by these radicalized Trump supporters. It's so crazy, dude. It's so crazy. So, before we get into, I know, I know we talked a little bit right here, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, the, the, the, to, the, to, to, the, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their their the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th., th., th., th., th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, truu. true, true, true, true, tri. today, to the. th. the. th. It's so crazy dude. It's so crazy. So before we get into,

Starting point is 00:12:46 I know I know we talked a little bit right here, but I want to take a moment before we really get into it to hear the trailer for your movie and your movie is called. Let me find the name of it real quick. I have it right here. Kidnap and Kill an FBI terror plot. So let's let's listen to the the trailer for it and th. the. the. the. th. the. the. th. the. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. the. the. the. the. terror plot. So let's let's listen to the the the trailer for it and then we'll get into the meat and the bones of it. So here we go. Earlier today Attorney General Dana Nessel was joined by officials from the Department of Justice and the FBI to announce state and federal charges against 13 members of two militia groups who are preparing to kidnap and possibly kill me. We're grateful to the FBI and law enforcement to discover these domestic terrorists and

Starting point is 00:13:33 stop them. You know, it's a sort of behavior you might expect from ISIS. You might see a number that high in a sprawling narcotics conspiracy that stretches from coast to coast and beyond. That's a pretty high number in a case like this. It really reflects, I think, how deeply the government has been diving into this investigation to try to make these cases. It was just literally a bunch of working-class guys who on the weekend got together and, you know, exercise their rights and trained with

Starting point is 00:14:05 firearms. So the FBI says hey we'll just pay for everything. Who arranged the meeting? The FBI's paid provocateur. Robeson was getting paid to set this stuff up. So they make the route, they set the locations, they make the plan, they do everything, and Adams literally just sitting in the basement of vacuum repair shops smoking blonze all day. You're going to hear that my client was the leader of this group, but I think you're also going to hear that there was an election help to identify the leader and it was Dan. How can I frame this social situation to make this naive person appear to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a the the to be a dangerous the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their the basement the basement the basement the basement the basement the basement the basement the basement frame this social situation to make this naive person appear to be a dangerous violent terrorist? The whole goal was for the FBI to spend millions of dollars to create militia groups, record

Starting point is 00:14:59 them saying offensive stuff, and then frame them in a fake conspiracy. It just makes me so mad. That is so well done. It just makes me so mad. Every time I watch it I get like riled up, you know? It's it's so insane and it's it's so interesting because like you know. You know, you, you know, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, like riled up, you know? It's so insane and it's so interesting because like, you know, when you study this stuff enough, you can, you can, if you study history enough, you could start seeing the plot in which an event in the past came to happen, right? So you can watch each step that the, the, the hidden hand of intelligence, the intelligence, the history, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, i, i, i, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, i, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the past came to happen, right? So you can watch each step that the hidden hand of intelligence, the hidden hand of the deep state, the globalist,

Starting point is 00:15:52 whatever you want to say it is. You can watch them step by step, setting up everything. So when the major impact event happens, it has maximum emotional damage so you can watch happen so we in this in this in this world of conspiracies know all the calling cards and we saw it instantly with this and so you take this you take January 6th and you start to see that this is about creating the notion of domestic terrorism,

Starting point is 00:16:27 nationalist, and they're a danger. And you start to watch it slowly get wheeled out by the mainstream media to cater to the small group of people on the left who are amplified by the social media to act like they're a giant group of people and they're really upset. Like I think we were part of it in like a weird way you know how there was FBI informants trying to figure out this militia I think on the off-the-grid festival we went to I'm pretty sure there was an FBI agent they're trying to figure out who's run in this shit the throw's got th got th got th got. th got. th got. th got. th got. th is is. thi. thi. thi. thi's. thi. thi's is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi's the thi's thi. they's is the thi. the thi. the the thi. I's is is the the the the thi. I's is is is the thi. I's is is they. they. they. they. they. I's is is is they. I's is is they. I's is they. I's is they. I's is they. I's is they. I's is they. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. theeeea. theea. thea. thea. thea. theea. thea. thi's thi's thi's thi. th shit. Yeah, for sure. Who's got the militia? Who's got the printed guns? When somebody shows up, hey, do you guys know where I'd get some ghost guns, bro?

Starting point is 00:17:08 You literally said that? You're like, what? What, dude? And that's just these people, what, just trying to live off the grid? Yeah, for sure. And they don't want that they want to create us for us to live in. Yeah, I mean, we're going to get into a lot of that stuff because I think this extends to almost everything culturally and I've talked about before, but so we see that this has just been a giant buildup. Every major, like we know that OKC was a traumatic impact event to start to, you know, to chip away at our constitutional

Starting point is 00:17:48 rights. And then what they couldn't get there, 9-11 got, and we, you know, we see all, everything getting set up and steps forward, you know, all, each step to a road that gets us a little deeper into it. You emotionally traumatized people. And they, you know, in order for them to a road that gets us a little deeper into it. You emotionally traumatize people and they, you know, in order for them to have safety, they're willing to give up freedom. And then the old saying is,

Starting point is 00:18:12 if you sacrifice freedom for safety, you get neither. And that's who will. Can you deserve neither? Yeah. So where do we start? Before we get into your movie, where do you, where does your journey into conspiracy, into questioning the official narrative, into pushing back against the globalists who want to destroy the Constitution? Like, where does, where does your journey begin? Probably 9-11. I was very young when that happened, of course, like, I think I was an eighth grade, but I remember it happening and I remember the impact that that event had.

Starting point is 00:18:57 And my cousin emancipated himself when he was 17 to join the Marines and he became a sniper and he went to Iraq and he came home and was a different person and started drinking a lot and could not reintegrate back into like civilian society. So he just started working for a private contractor, went back to the Middle East and then died in Beirut in 2007. And we were given different stories about how he died. He was 30 years old and he, you know, he was a Marine, so obviously he was very physically fit. And they said he died in his sleep of like some congenital heart condition that apparently he'd always had that the Marines missed or something. And then there were a couple other stories that they told us and somehow the State Department was involved.

Starting point is 00:19:51 So that event was a big thing for me. I was 17 when he died. And I just remember thinking that starting to look back at like reexamining 9-11 again. And then I kind of felt like, you know, he was used by people, like you said, the people who really run things and who created 9-11 for their own agenda. So I guess you could say that's sort of like where my waking up to this stuff began. I've always been, though, sort of like where my waking up to this stuff began. I've always been though, sort of like an independent thinker and yeah, I guess as far as like this Whitmer case goes, I had been prior to these guys getting arrested. I had been kind of researching these older like FBI. I had been looking at PatCon because of something else, because of

Starting point is 00:20:45 another case. PatCon, PatCon, PatCon, what is PatCon. So I will explain PacCon in a minute, but because of like another thing involving FBI informants, when the Whitmer thing happened, I'm like, oh, I feel like I recognize this playbook from the FBI. Patcon stands for Patriot conspiracy. So, I'm sure you know what Co-Intel-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-co-co. the-co At the con stands for patriot conspiracy. So I'm sure you know what Cointel Pro was. Yes. Yes. Yeah. From the is I guess is probably still going on. But everybody I think has kind of heard of Cointel Pro with where the FBI like in the 60s and 70s I had infiltrated like left wing

Starting point is 00:21:23 or anti-war movements with the intention of disrupting them, but sometimes in some cases they create their own groups as well. So PatCon was a series of FBI operations that occurred in the 90s and it was according to a former Patcon inform, John Matthews, Ruby Ridge was a Patcon operation, Waco, Oklahoma City. So I had been looking kind of at those things when these guys got arrested, and I was like, that just kind of seems like the same type of operation that the FBI was running. And the Patcon, they were, the FBI was like infiltrating militia groups and sort of like a Christian or right-wing groups. But nothing, nothing really came of it. So there's very, there was very little documentation about it until 2007, I think, was the first time

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Starting point is 00:24:45 So you will go, don't you want your law enforcement infiltrating these groups so they could stop it? But the problem comes is that most of the stuff that they end up trying to stop, they actually started. Yeah, exactly. That these are, that they create problems so that they can just take away more of our rights all the time. I don't think anyone has a problem with law enforcement trying to stop like a legit, let's say, pedophile ring, right? There's a pedophile ring out there. They want infiltrate this and figure out who's running it so they can stop it,

Starting point is 00:25:23 so they can stop kids getting hurt. But what we're seeing over the last, what, 70, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, 70, what, what, 70, what, 70, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, thi running it so they can stop it so they can stop kids getting hurt. But what we're seeing over the last what, 70 years, decades? Is that not only are they like, not only, they're creating the problem. They are creating these issues. They are creating the monsters that they, we beg them to hunt down and stop. Whether it's terrorism abroad or terrorism domestically, they have a hand in this to create this because not only do they want to take away our constitutional right, but we have to have some sort of monster out there to warrant their budgets.

Starting point is 00:26:03 They create a lot of this stuff just warrant their budgets. They create a lot of this stuff just for their budgets. And for me it's like I don't have a problem let's say with it with with an intelligence group that is there to really stop any kind of crime or or attack or anything like that, but it just doesn't seem like that's what they do and if they do do it on a small level there's giant big things that they are literally funding creating funding arming and releasing. I mean the cartels. The cartels the cartels the terrorist groups these dictators all this stuff like the border the people

Starting point is 00:26:41 people come here because you ruin their country. 100% the borders packed because what did America do to all those countries? It is the exact same thing they did in the Middle East. Bomb the shit out of the Middle East so that everybody comes to Europe and now the fabric of Europe is changing. It's changing. And I don't hate those people, but they're coming here and bringing their stuff and it just seems crazy. So it's like this is Like honestly, I mean my grandfather was a cop. I mean I have no problems with stop I was thinking today because you know I just wake up talking to myself all the time And I was just all the time I just can't turn my head off and I'm just talking to myself about like the the movement behind defund the police and like how crazy the the the the the the the the the the the the th th the th th th th th th th the th. the th. the the th. th. the the the th. the the th. the the the the the the the thi. thi thi. the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the the the the tea. tea. the the toea. toe. toe. toe. toe. the. the. and like how crazy that is. How crazy that is. And so you have these people on defund the police and then you have this guy on the subway choking out that guy who's threatening the attack everybody. Now you can't even defend yourself. So you don't have people

Starting point is 00:27:39 defend. I mean, I thought it was community policing. I thought that's what they wanted. Yeah, I totally agree with that. that what what you what you that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi th thi. thi. thi. thi. that that is that is thi. thi. that is thi. thi. that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theea. thea. thea. thea. thea. that's that's that's that's that's that is th thought that's what they wanted. Yeah, I totally agree with that. I totally agree what you're saying there. I thought this is what you wanted. And now you don't even want that? Like with these trans activists going up and committing violence and when people go back and defend themselves, they're the ones day with words today to be honest with you, I probably use up all my words talking to myself, but you know, it's just like, you know, it's just like idealistically, yeah, we would love to have a group that is there to stop anything from happening to the country, to our economy and all that stuff. But in reality, it just doesn't seem like that's what they're doing. That's not what they're doing at all. I worked in law for many years. Like I understand

Starting point is 00:28:30 what legitimate like law enforcement investigative technique is, right? Where like you would, if this case happened and it was legitimate, you would expect that there was, you know, a group that was already plotting or planning something, and then here comes law enforcement. Maybe they put an informant in there, and that person is there literally to like observe and record what is happening and just give that information, relay that information back to law enforcement. But what is happening here is that is back to law enforcement. But what is happening here is that is not the case at all. Here, law enforcement, you know, the FBI is creating the groups.

Starting point is 00:29:14 So for example, I've learned while I've been investigating this that the FBI has a database of Americans that they would like to target and they give their informants in some cases access to this database. And then these informants will make contact with people on social media, the people that are in that database and they will befriend them. And it's very, it's all very sinister and it's very scary. It doesn't sound like it the way I just described it, but it is. Do you know anything about data analytics? Well, real quick before we get into that, I think what we're talking about was we would love an enforcement, like, you ever watch like the ID channel?

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Starting point is 00:30:30 So in that instance, it's great. You're saying, you know, undercover to stop a crime from happening, but going back to me that there's like a list of like people they want to contact that you're just like, okay, let's go up to this guy. That blows my mind. Why, because you're on it? I do it. I do to, there's no way, I'm not on it. I think the way you're not on it or you're not on it.

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Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, that's crazy. Oh yeah, and the hair just light it and throw it. Yeah, okay, so they send it, they create these, these data lists of targets they want, and you can just log in and it's almost like leads, like when you're trying to say, I want the Glengarry, right now. Here's a couple leads for you. I need those triple eight leads. Let's see you could close, let's close.

Starting point is 00:31:52 Let's close. That's exactly what it is. And it sounds funny to say that, but these informants are he was paid $54,000 cash. So the FBI pays their informants in envelopes of cash, kind of like just how the mafia does it, I guess. Incidentally, they're apparently envelopes that say chase bank on them, so I guess that's the account that the FBI uses for their sensitive informant program or whatever

Starting point is 00:32:25 you want to call it. But yeah, these people will make money for the leads that they get and then what happens with it, how well they process it for the FBI. So he got 54,000 cash for about six months of work. And then in December of 2020, after these guys had been successfully arrested and framed, he was given another $23,000 cash bonus. He was given a new laptop, he was given a smart watch. Like they helped him move and he got a new house because they said that, oh, he could

Starting point is 00:32:58 face intimidation so he had to move. It apparently it's very lucrative to be a snitch for the federal government. I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, you know, if you take a look at the CIA, I mean, Pablo Escobar was a CIA asset. It helps when they print the money too, you know, they can pay whatever they were. Oh yeah, 100%, bro. And this gets into like, I mean, this goes so deep.

Starting point is 00:33:25 I remember in the 80s when I was younger, and they were just like, dude, the government's paying $25,000 for a hammer. Why, what was that? And you're like, oh, that's what, they're not really paying $25 grand for a hammer, they're paying $5 for a hammer and taken the rest of money and you, th, th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, their, their, their, theirtaking the rest of that money and using it in black ops operation. I mean, again, if you go back to the Kavanaugh case, that everyone was like, can you believe they made that stuff up?

Starting point is 00:33:53 That was all a siop. That whole case was a siop, not to discuss Brett Kavanaugh's whole background in creating the Patriot Act. He worked at the Clintons to clean up all the loose ends on white water. It is George Bush death cult again. And that whole thing, that woman was a CIA asset who worked in Stanford for the CIA intern program. Her father's job, and this is what what we're getting at, was to find funding for black ops operations, which is exactly what the crack

Starting point is 00:34:30 cocaine stuff was, which is what, you know, one of the first shows we had, Freeway, Rick Ross was literally like, yeah, I'm selling, I'm selling drugs for the CIA. It's insane. It's insane. So when we... It is, yeah, and so this goes back to the the the CIA. It's insane. So when we, it is. Yeah. And so this goes back to episode 666, where we were like, is everything, an intelligence operation?

Starting point is 00:34:56 And I'd go, yeah, pretty much. Yeah. You mentioned having Whitney Webb on and she's just done some stuff. She's been talking about the JPMorgan Chase lawsuit with Jeffrey Epstein and how Jeffrey Epstein had these bank accounts that he was using to pay off people and he was withdrawing like massive sums of money. His accountant was asking the bank about like what is the maximum amount he can do without triggering like reporting and stuff. Epstein was giving people envelopes of cash from Chase Bank also, just like the FBI apparently,

Starting point is 00:35:37 it's amazing. And the FBI spends, I think the last estimate was something like $530 million a year just paying FBI informants. That's insane. How much? 530 million a year. Oh my God. Cash. That's one NFL quarterback.

Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean, just, it's like, cash, bro, cash. That's unbelievable. So let's get into it because this has all been about domestic terrorism. We have done episodes on it. They've been talking about this forever, passing laws on this forever. They wanted to start a new division of homeland security, which would be domestic terrorism. So in order to get that going and get the, and again, this gets in to all this, what we've been talking about on the show, which is a cult magic, okay, which is everything is manifest, they have they have to manifest for us to manifest for us to manifest for them to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to to to come to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to manifest for us to manifest for them to come and save us.

Starting point is 00:36:50 So they have to get us in a place of high anxiety where we are begging to be saved. So you create all this domestic terrorism. It's very interesting, you could always see what is the SIOP that they're trying to run based on the theme of the videos that are coming out, right? So when they wanted, so they, when they wanted to create Asian hate, just everything on the internet was just suddenly somebody punching an Asian grandma.

Starting point is 00:37:20 And it was just like video after video and then out of nowhere, none of those videos came out anymore. You're like, what? Did we just stop punching Asian grandmas? It works. We're just done. We fixed it. It's done. We just show a couple of videos and people stop. Yeah, it's just so interesting.

Starting point is 00:37:34 It's interesting. So then it becomes like,, nothing going the other way, just this. So you can tell what they're trying to push. And again, now we're getting into these stories. This story proceeds January 6th. These militias, these militias. I'll hear their domestic terrorist. They're causing chaos, you just want to take your kids a kindergarten and you never know when some fascist domestic terrorists will show up in a mat.

Starting point is 00:38:09 And by the way, they're always wearing masks by the way. If you see a picture of any of these, you know, these quote, unquote, domestic terrorists, and they're all with masks on being arrested, that's my favorite thing. They're being arrested and allowed to keep their their their their their their their their their their thing. They're being arrested and allowed to keep their masks on. Yeah, well, that's because they need to walk around behind the building and get arrested again. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:34 It's a money saving. They're really saving taxpayers dollars when you think about it. It's basically like in John Wick, where you could see that they use the same guy a couple times getting killed, but they angle it so you can't see it perfectly. That's exactly what the FBI's doing. They're just using John Wick, henchman over and over and over and over. State Fletcher, just keep it. He just keeps walking around the building. Every time he comes in a different outfit,

Starting point is 00:38:58 but you're like, I think that guy was already killed like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, right? Yes. So, so we have this plot and it's, you know, not to be offensive to anybody, but it's like the best meme I've ever seen of this situation was like 10 Spider-Man just pointing to each other, and then it just said, Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed, some autistic fuck. Fed, Fed, Fed, fed, right? And it's totally 100 percent true. fed fed fed fed fed fed some autistic fuck fed fed fed fed fed fed fed fed right and that it's totally 100% true. It's true is exactly what happened yes in fact Adam Fox I believe his attorney should have tested him for autism his family think so also no yeah the guy it was framed as the ring leader, you know, the homeless man that was living in the basement of the Vackshack.

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Starting point is 00:43:38 They're obviously in contact with each other and planning it. So, yes, they were aware of each other other and what I would encourage people to consider, and I'm pretty sure your audience seems like they would be aware of this already, so I probably don't need to tell them, but to start considering like what the FBI is doing with this stuff, not as legitimate investigations into so-called domestic terrorism or whatever, they are literally casting

Starting point is 00:44:06 a theatrical over-the-top narrative. That's what they're doing. And they will watch people and they'll surveil them for years and they'll just collect data on them. And then they can take that data together and they do what's called parallel construction. So they can take something you said three years ago on Facebook and they can just take it, this snippet and they throw it together with a bunch of other stuff they've gathered and they can paint a completely different picture of who you are than what is true.

Starting point is 00:44:40 And that should terrify everybody. By the way, of course they knew about each other because if they didn't they would just be reporting on each other Obvious all the reports would be about hey, you know, this guy is really suspicious This guy keeps asking everybody hey, you know, you know, I can find a pipe bomb You know he's asking everybody that would be all the reports. They just be reporting on each other of course. Oh, they know. thi. tho. the th because lives get thrown away. Yeah, so how about this? For example, like this is, I have this here, these are the out of court statements that the jury didn't get to see in this case. So this was stuff that was picked up by the recording devices of multiple informants and some of this contains. And some of this contains text messages between FBI handling agents and their informants.

Starting point is 00:45:27 And one of my favorite quotes here is Special Agent Hunrick Impola saying to an FBI informant that they burned as a source at his interrogation when they arrested him for doing something that they gave him permission to do, he says to him, we have a saying in my office, don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Now why would an FBI agent be saying that to an informant in October 10, 2020 interrogation in Michigan? And this is a, uh, CHS from Wisconsin. Now can I ask, did the judge refuse this is a CHS from Wisconsin. Now can I ask, did the judge refuse this being brought in or did the defense not try to bring it in?

Starting point is 00:46:12 Or the judge? No, no, the judge basically ruled against the defendants almost every single time. On what grounds does they not bring this in? What? The judge has discretion, He called this hearsay. He created a bogus hearsay rule. More like he says. So basically, hearsay in this case, the way Judge Yonker interpreted it, it's the government can go back 20 years into your history and they can pull anything you've ever said

Starting point is 00:46:40 completely out of context and present it, or they can present an informant who says, well, I didn't actually capture this on a recording device, but I'll testify that this was said, and they're allowed to show that to the jury, but anything picked up by a recording device, any text message, communications between informants and the FBI handling agents was called hearsay. So while it made us way into discovery and this is up on PACER, anyone can download and read all this stuff, this did not get presented as evidence at trial. The jury did not get to see this. No, do you think that was part of sandbagging the defendant? Or was that mostly just to keep this information from going wide and being published? So there was there was? There was th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus their thi thi their their their their their their their thus their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thus. So, so th th th th th th th th. So, th th. So, th. So, thi thi thi their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the an theateatea. So, theat, so thea. Soa. So, so thea. So, so theatea. So, so their thea.bagging the defendant, or was that mostly just to keep this information from going wide and being published?

Starting point is 00:47:27 So, there was obviously, they wanted this to look like a fair trial, but it clearly wasn't. There was so much more that happened besides that that made it very clear that these people were not going to get a fair trial. And the judge didn't really think, I guess that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he to to that he to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to to be to be to do to do to do to do to do not going to get a fair trial. And the judge didn't really think, I guess, that he needed to hide that. He didn't try to hide it. They weren't allowed to have any witnesses testify on their behalf. The government was allowed to threaten every single witness and tell them that they could be currently under investigation. And each one had to plead the fifth on the stand and the jury was taken out of the room

Starting point is 00:48:07 so they didn't get to see that. They didn't know that there were people that wanted to testify for these guys as character witnesses, people who had attended government-sponsored field training exercises. So yeah, they didn't, they were allowed to intimidate witnesses and tamper with witnesses openly, the government, and they got away with it. The judge did nothing. This is where it starts to get really dangerous. I mean, it's already dangerous, but even more dangerous.

Starting point is 00:48:39 And that is a politically activist judges, okay? Yes. And you could say whatever you want about Elks Jones. I love Elks Jones. He's a very kind guy. I, every time I hang out with him, he's class. So you can say whatever you want about him. I enjoy our conversations.

Starting point is 00:49:00 And if you watch his trial, and you know, and this can be 100% applied to the recent civil case against Trump, is that these judges are not allowing the process of a trial to happen the way it's supposed to legally. That they are putting their thumbs on the balance of justice. So they didn't allow, they didn't allow, like when it came to Elks Jones, he couldn't put any evidence out. Wasn't the, was this the trial also where they called, where the judge called the defendant's evidence, crap and said that they couldn't they couldn't they limited how long they could they that was this trial he said that to the he admonished the defense repeatedly in front of the jury he said why are you wasting our time with this crap line of questioning he

Starting point is 00:49:57 would just say derogatory things like that only to the defense not to the prosecutors he also instituted a time limit restriction. This was done strategically and on purpose because there's no actual proof of any conspiracy to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, and there's no agreement between these guys. Like they don't have any evidence to this day. And you know it's true.

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Starting point is 00:51:01 also got involved in a selling ghost guns to a convicted drug dealer and felon who was not legally allowed to have them. That same informant and these two guys who took plea deals tried to send one of the parts for the ghost gun, to the another defendant's house, Daniel Harris, without his permission to try to implicate him in this ghost gun scheme, which was a separate matter.

Starting point is 00:51:27 But that was used to hang over their heads, hey, you guys need to take plea deals because we won't just get you with conspiracy to kidnap and weapons of mass destruction. Terrorism, leadership enhancements will get you for the ghost guns and you'll spend your entire life in prison. So these two men took plea deals. They lied under oath and that was basically the government's case was the word of two snitches who had taken plea deals and had to sign off on what the government agreed to. So the judge knew that the defense lawyers would want to impeach these guys as witnesses and say, hey,

Starting point is 00:52:04 what you're saying now is drastically different than what you said when you were first arrested in your interrogation video. We have the transcripts. Why does your story change so much? You have to lay a foundation first, especially because of that hearsay rule that the judge had given, the defense has to lay a foundation and wait for the person that they're cross-examining to maybe open the door for more of that to get brought out. So it's a process, and he limited the cross-examination only to the defense team to 25 minutes per person, but not on the prosecutors.

Starting point is 00:52:40 They could spend two hours allowing these guys to just tell a bullshit story Completely theatrical narrative and then he limits them to 25 minutes He cites a case that is from a white-collar case that involved 100 different third-party defendants and they instituted a time limit to prevent that trial from lasting six months This was a trial that had only been two weeks. It was a reti. It was a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theater. the the the the theater. theater. theater. theater. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tri. tri. tr. tri. tr. tri. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tri. th. th. th. th. th. a time limit to prevent that trial from lasting six months. This was a trial that had only been two weeks. It was a retrial, by the way. The previous trial did not go over three weeks, so there would be no reason for a time limit. Even BuzzFeed News, left-wing media, reported on it and said, this is really weird and looks improper.

Starting point is 00:53:24 The next day, Judge Junker removes the time limits and just doesn't mention it again. There's also allegations of juror misconduct in the retrial of Adam and Barry, where one of these jurors was overheard at his place of employment, saying, oh, I just got a jury summons, I hope I get on the Whitmer trial because I'm going to hang those guys. And he was not removed. You know, the defense lawyers went to the judge with that information. Their private investigator had gotten two additional witnesses to confirm that this guy said this. So there's not even supposed to be the appearance of impropriety. So the judge should have removed that juror

Starting point is 00:54:05 and brought in an alternate. You know, just because it was even questionable, right, like that this happened, he doesn't do that. He holds like a in-chambers ex parte, private hearing with the prosecutors where the defendants are not allowed to be present. And he tells this juror, we don't have any evidence that you did this and you're not under oath but did you say this at work he he and the guy

Starting point is 00:54:29 goes I don't recall saying that and the judge goes oh good okay I believe you we're all good and then further as the trial went on that same guy that juror becomes the juror foreman and he apparently calls his mother and tells her the verdict before the defense lawyers even know the verdict. Well the jury is supposed to be sequestered and there's not supposed to be any contact. And that was also investigated independently and verified. Nothing came up with that. That'll go to this appeals.

Starting point is 00:55:03 This goes into the Trump trial. And like you could say whatever you want about Trump, man, you could say the exact.. the exact the exact the exact. the exact is this goes into the Trump trial and like you can say whatever you want about Trump man you can say the exact dude so they find him not guilty of rape but they find him guilty of sexual assault and this is what the lawyer said this is what the judge said an unwanted touching meaning if I tou to tou shouldcest your shoulder, that can be deemed sexual assault. Well, Joe Biden's in trouble, because wait until he hears about that. Well, what, oh, God. But this is, this becomes political activism.

Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. Yes, and this judge, Judge Junker, after this, so he presided over the first trial and then the retrial of Adam and Barry. Because that first trial ended in a two men being acquitted. Like a jury found. It was a deadlock, right? Yeah, the jury found that the feds had entrapped and framed Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris. I'm working with Brandon on this documentary as he tries to rebuild his life after the government destroyed it and then he got no Compensation for that, but they declared a mistrial for Adam and Barry so the government retries

Starting point is 00:56:12 Adam and Barry and that is what all these issues come from although some of them were present at the first trial That judge oversaw both of these cases though, and I think it's just outrageous That he's still on the bench right now when all of this happened and that these guys.????????? th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thee thee thi thi thi thi thi thi the. thi the. the. thi the. the the the the the. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. their they. they. they. the. the. theat, theat. theateateateat. teateatea. tea. tea. tea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the, though, and I think it's just outrageous that he's still on the bench right now when all of this happened and that these guys now have to wait for the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals for an appeals process that could take five years when it's so clear that they didn't do it, not only that, but look, they didn't even have a fair trial. These are not fair trials. It's the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi th thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th th th th th th thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the is the is the is the the the the thee an the an thee an the an the an thee an the an the an the an trial. These are not fair trials. It's the same thing with the January 6 people. And this judge, after he presides over two of these trials for the Whitmer fed-napping hoax, he goes and gives a statement talking about how much he loves the FBI, and how great

Starting point is 00:56:59 his FBI agents. He said that. Can I ask you in the first trial, was he less biased in the first trial? Did it seem like someone maybe got in his ear? No, how can you account for the different results? No, he was biased throughout the entire thing. Like I mentioned that bogus hearsay rule that he did to shield the court from even seeing the evidence. Even now, after the federal, the federal case is over. We had the first trial, we had the retrial of Adam and Barry. They have been sentenced and moved to Supermax, which we'll talk about in a minute. There's still all of this discovery under protective seal that Judge Junker has an unsealed.

Starting point is 00:57:48 Why is that? Why would you need to hide all of this stuff? No, he's been covering it up the entire time. He put stuff under seal so it couldn't be presented to the jury and the public. No, like this, he was biased throughout the entire thing. But what happened after the first trieilililililil, trin, trin, trin, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to to to to to to to the to to to toe, to the to to to to to to to to judge the to to to to judge to judge to judge, to judge, to judge, to judge, to judge, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the, the, too, too, toe, toe, toe, toe, to, toe, to, to, toe, to judge judge junk, to, toe, to judge judge june, the biased throughout the entire thing, but what happened after the first trial ended in a two men being acquitted and then a mistrial on the other ones, the government was very mad and very embarrassed. I don't know if you guys remember this, but they were touding this case as the biggest

Starting point is 00:58:20 domestic terrorism case in a generation. This was their big thing, right? And they couldn't secure one conviction at the first trial. Two men are acquitted. They are, in a sense, rebuked. And then the mistrial on the other two. So the government's like, no, we're coming back, even, we're going to put our fingers on the scale even more.

Starting point is 00:58:45 We're going to make it even more obvious. We don't care. We just have to get these guys convicted. And they did that because there are separate state cases connected to this that we're also coming up to trial and they wanted to have convictions that they could use to influence that state case, which they cite that they just, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam and tham, Adam, Adam, Adam, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, tham, th could use to influence that state case, which they did, and they cite that they just, Adam and Berry have just been convicted in the retrial, convicted domestic terrorists, though no one was charged with domestic terrorism. It's unbelievable. And there's still another state case going to trial in Antrim County at Michigan this summer. Four men are being tried for providing material support to this case. So, because they allowed somebody to train on their property or they taught somebody how to tie a turnecate and then the FBI frames that person as a terrorist

Starting point is 00:59:39 and now oh you've just provided material support to a terrorist organization and you're going to go to jail for 15 years. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's just manufacturing an event out of nowhere and then acting like you're the savior to do and that you're the the saviour and that you're the only answer to this problem that you have created. That's it. Yeah. It's mind-blowing and it happens over and over and over again. They create the problem like you know a great, a great example is Charles Manson, same thing. They just kept like getting him in jail, creating this event, and then at the end when they no longer need him, they create this thing, this

Starting point is 01:00:32 event, these murderers, and then the question is, he wasn't even there. And the people who actually did it, the guy they actually think that did it wasn't even there. So what do you think about Trump saying that he's going the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the guy. the guy. the guy. the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. thi. the guy. the guy. the guy. the the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the guy. He's the. He's th. He's the. He's the. He's. He's. He's. Hea. Hea. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. the. th. th. the the. He's. the that did it wasn't even there. So what do you think about Trump saying that he's going to release everybody? I mean, excuse me, that the guy that they actually thought did it didn't even get charged? Go on. I mean, I was, what do you think about Trump saying he's going to release everybody from January 6? You think that's a good movie? You think it made them look good? Or you think it's... I don't believe any of it. You know, here's a whole thing about this. It's like, you know, if you go, I was,

Starting point is 01:01:11 we had, I forget what her name is, Jenny Berlin, is that her name? Brian, I think is, I forget what her, how to pronounce her name? She came on and she was talking about how like everyone thinks it's the Democrats that want censorship on the on social media but when you really go back to it both sides are demanding it. Both sides really are calling for. Jennifer Briny. Yeah she was talking about how both sides are like, what are you going to do to do censorship on the internet? Yeah. Yeah. So like you know it's like Trump had a really, really good opportunity to get, you know, to release all these political prisoners. And he didn't release any of them.

Starting point is 01:01:56 Because they said if you do that, we're going to, you know, make your life help. Guess what they did? They made his life hell anyways. So everything he says, oh, give me elect. I'm going to do this. That's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. They made his life hell anyways. So everything he says, oh, give me elect, I'm going to do this. Where do we hear that every time? I swear to God. Like now I know how women feel when men court them. We just, guys will say whatever they can. You know, and then it's like, why you said you're going to do all this? You didn't do any of it. That's like, that's politics. They say whatever they want. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to they to to to to they they they to to to to they they they to to to to to to to do to do to do to do to do to do to do th. th. to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear to hear th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. to the. to to to to do. do. do. the. the. the. to hear, then they get elected, they got four years, they don't do anything that they told us they're going to do. And then they start to romance us again when the elect, oh I'm going to do this this time, trust me on this one. We're going to do that. And it's like, yeah, especially the second term, they're going, well, he's gonna be on, I remember that with Obama, Obama's gonna be unleashed in the second term, you know, he doesn't have to worry about re-election.

Starting point is 01:02:45 He's gonna shut down Gitmo this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, none of it happened. Remember that? All the lies we were told. Yeah, so embarrassing now. That's why people just fallen for it. Like I totally bought into that crap back in the day. Four years is just long enough for you to forget. Oh, he's gonna get us out of all the forever wars. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 01:03:09 So, so we get, let's get into, you know, a great example of this too is the John Jones. Jim Jones, excuse me, and his, that thing was just full of FBI informants. Oh, the cult. You think, what, what, the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, th, th, like, like, th, th, like, th, like, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, thi, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they. Like, that, that, that, that, tho. Like, tho. Like, tho. Like, tho. Like, tho. So, tho. So, tho. So, tho. So, thants. Oh, the cult? Yeah. You think what have you think? There's no way an FBI agent drank the Koolit. No. Oh, you know that was going down. But when?

Starting point is 01:03:31 But when? They're in the corner of putting the poison in there and handing it out to everybody, encouraging everyone else to do it. That's a real FBI agent. They drink, to this mission. That's the kind of guy you want working for you. Yeah, I completely agree, man. And, and, and, no, but you think there was someone in there that knew that that was going to go down and they didn't stop it all. I did drink the fucking hool it.

Starting point is 01:03:54 Well, they actually pinpointed down to who the CIA guy was when that's when that's when that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you could see the guy walk off slowly and that's when they came out and started shooting everybody. It's all that it's all this invisible hand that just creates chaos. Yeah, if you could just expand the frame a little wider on a lot of these historical, you know, I mean, there's just that guy there every time. And in all of these historical false flags and suspected false flags. I mean, if you take a look at a look at, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, s, s s s s s s-, s-s, s-s, s-s, s-s, s-s, s-s, s-a, s-a, s-a, the, the, the the, mean, there's just that guy there every time and in all of these historical false flags and suspected false flags. I mean, if you take a look at Pearl Harbor, they knew it was coming, they let it happen. So why? So that we would be pulled into World War II. Yeah, because there was real moments against it. January 6th is going to happen. They planned it. In fact, the Whitmer thing was the dry run for that, you know. They had these guys, you know, at these anti-lockdown rallies in Lansing in April of 2020, there were like a few of them and the Wolverine Watchmen, the militia group that the FBI infiltrated that some of these men were members of, but most of them weren't. They just attended their training,

Starting point is 01:05:08 but these guys attended these like anti-lockdown rallies and they're there and they're like plate carriers with their you know their tactical gear and stuff like that and they're with this FBI informant Dan Chapel who's wearing a wire and he's talking to the FBI in real time, right? And he goes, oh, I think these guys are going to do something. You know, they're looking like they're getting ready to do something. He doesn't say like what they were doing. He just says this into his wire to the FBI handling agents who are listening. And by the way, they're stationed all around the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. the FBI. I the FBI. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the FBI. I the FBI. I the FBI. I'm the FBI. the FBI. I'm to the FBI. to to to the FBI. I's to to to to to to their their their their their their their the FBI. I the FBI. I the FBI. I the FBI. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I to to to the FBI. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to. the the the the to. the the th. the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the FBI handling agents who are listening. And by the way, they're stationed all around the area in Michigan.

Starting point is 01:05:48 They're all around the Capitol where this anti-lockdown rally was happening. And by the way, these rallies, like, they brought a lot of people. They had anti-vaxers, they had just anti-lockdown people, people who were against the mandates. So there were like left-wing people, right-wing people, people that weren't-a were th. So there were like left-wing people, right-wing people, people that weren't that political, but just wanted to work. Like, these were big rallies,

Starting point is 01:06:07 and I think they kind of wanted to discredit that. So they, the FBI calls the Lansing Capitol Police and says, we want you guys to stand down, open the doors and let everybody in. And so the Wolverine Watchmen guys go in there with the FBI informant, Adam Fox, the man who will later be framed as the ringleader of the fake kidnapping plot, he's there that day, not with these guys though. He hadn't even met them at that point until the FBI introduces them later on. But the media took pictures of the Wolverine Watchmen, and you saw it in the trailer of

Starting point is 01:06:48 them in their tactical gear inside the state capital at Lansing. Those pictures were all over the media the next day saying that like far-right extremists and militia groups stormed the Capitol and occupied the building. Now it lasted four hours, it was completely peaceful and then these guys left. Did you know it came out at trial? They stood there and went through security. They went through COVID screening. They all stood there and got their temperatures checked and then the government turns around and uses these pictures at trial to say oh this wasthis was them, you know, being terrorists and extremists.

Starting point is 01:07:27 And it's like, you created that situation. You told the Capitol Police to stand down, open the doors and let everybody inside. You knew that these guys went through the COVID screening, did nothing violent and left peacefully. And by the way, the FBI Asian, who was overseeing the Detroit field office at the time that happened, it was a man named Stephen DeAntoono, he gets promoted by Christopher Ray

Starting point is 01:07:54 to be a head of the Washington DC field office, who's running things when January 6th happens. Yep, the guy who ran that operation was brought over to run the January 6 operation. That's right. And now he's gone by the way he conveniently retired from the FBI, right before the Republicans took over and created these oversight hearings, you know, ones about like the weaponization of the government. Yeah, he's retired now and he's working for some consulting firm that is, uh, you know, involved in all the stuff going on with like the like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the January, the the the January, the January, the the the January, th thi the January, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th th. thi thi. thi thi. thi thi the the than. than. than. than. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. now and he's working for some consulting firm that is you know involved in all the stuff going on with like the regional banks and stuff like the Silicon Valley Bank thing. That's a weird story. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:08:35 we'll get into that too, but you know if you study the Oklahoma, the not, we're gonna have an episode of OKC bombing soon, but if you study the Boston bombing, there is so much insanity there and it's one of those stories where you can't find any of the information used to be able to find on the internet. Did you know about the Boston bombing connection to this case? Oh, no, let's get into that, but so... No, go ahead. I'm sorry. So the two guys, the brothers, right, that were, I went to Dagestan? That, that were involved in this.

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Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah, she's an intelligence operate. I don't know why the FBI would be over there. Because they're more domestic. Maybe it was CIA. But there was already connections between the two. Cia. Boston Terror suspects uncle was married to CIA. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to to the the to the that. that. th. that. that. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. th. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the thi. the the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the thi CIA, Boston Terror Suspects uncle was married to CIA officers' daughter and even shared a home with the agent. So his uncle shared the house with the CIA agents. Oh my, so, so we get into that, right? You cannot make the stuff up.

Starting point is 01:10:02 You can't make the shit up. So then we get to the big day and if you actually study the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures. the pictures the pictures the pictures. the pictures the pictures the pictures the pictures. the pictures the pictures the stuff up. You can't make the shit up. So then we get to the big day and if you actually study the pictures, and this is where we get into the murky water, right? The pictures of the marathon were like dropping off the backpack. If you look at his backpack, and the backpack that they show you exploded, it's not the same backpack. Then you go and find these pictures of these militants built in these militants in all black and they have

Starting point is 01:10:31 Punisher logos on their hat. You study them? There you see a backpack. So it's pretty clear they made them think they were doing it and they actually weren't the one they didn't want to trust it to kids. Yeah, they actually do it. So they just had, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, the, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their militants. their militants, their, their, their. their, their their, their, their, their. theirthink they were doing it and they actually weren't the one they didn't want to trust it to kids. They did it. Yeah. So they just had, hey, walk around with his backpack on. Right. And they just used as pattsies, yeah. That's what they do. They just use them as pattsies.

Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, because I mean, you talked to his teacher, like do that. Like I couldn't believe it. Even when I saw on the internet, I just kept my mouth shut. Because it's that thing where it's like, maybe they were Patsies. Well, for sure. I even watch the video. You watch the video and you see them drop off the backpack, but you don't really do much research. I just watched the agents on the Whitmer case, special agent Jason Chambers, he worked the Boston Marathon bombing case prior to orchestrating this one, you know, the Whitmer case.

Starting point is 01:11:34 So I just, I thought that was interesting. You bring up the Boston Marathon bombing thing and I'm like, wow, yeah, Jason Chambers, you know, he worked that case on 2014 and then he goes on to create the Whitmer case. And Jason Chambers is a strange character, right? You know, he's the FBI handling agent that opens the Whitmer case as a TEI investigation. T.E.I. stands for terrorism enterprise investigation. So it's like, within the FBI, that is like the highest threat classification for terrorism enterprise investigation. So it's like within the FBI, that is like the highest threat classification for terrorism.

Starting point is 01:12:10 And it basically allows the agent to use like all of the resources at the disposal of the FBI. So things like drones, airplanes, whole cams, whatever. Like he had the ability to do all of that stuff. And there were text messages that came out between him and another FBI agent, where he was the the the the the the the the the the the the th......... the th. th. th. th. th. threat. threat. threat. threats. threats. threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threat. threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, threats, whatever, like he had the ability to do all of that stuff. And there were text messages that came out between him and another FBI agent where he was saying, I'm going to run this as a TEI, whether I get approval or not, because he was supposed to get approval from his bosses, and there were some of them that were kind of questioning this case.

Starting point is 01:12:44 And, but they signed off on it anyway. So there's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, th, no, th, th, no, th, no, th, th, th, thi, thi, no, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the an ta.eanan, ta.ean, ta.ean, ta.ean, ta.ean, their, their, their, thean, their, were kind of questioning this case. But they signed off on it anyway. So there's no good people at the FBI here in this story whatsoever. But Jason Chambers, it come to find out he's, while he's working for the FBI, after he's done the Boston Marathon bombing case, as he's doing the Whitmer hoax, he's running a private intelligence company called Ex-Intel. And his private intelligence company is seeking multi-million dollar contracts with the federal government to advise them on cases of domestic terrorism. A Twitter account associated with his private intelligence company was posting

Starting point is 01:13:26 about the Whitmer case on Twitter, claiming to have insider knowledge and trying to profit financially from the case. That's Jason Chambers. And there's a lot of other stuff that you see throughout the discovery in this case where he is texting and he's talking to the FBI informants and he is directing them to create the plot. He's saying, hey, I want you to do this training on like this day, right? So it's the FBI that is planning all of their tactical training. So Dana Nassel, the Attorney General for Michigan and Gretchen Whitmer, they referred to the tactical training

Starting point is 01:14:18 the militia group was doing as a terrorism training camp. Well, it was the FBI that created it. The militia group, the Wolverine Watchman, was created in 2019 by two men, Pete Musico and Joe Morrison. And it was in 2019, it was created. It's immediately infiltrated within months by the FBI. They put their informant, Dan Chapel in the number two position of XO or commanding

Starting point is 01:14:46 officer. He takes over their defensive tactical training and then the FBI hosts all these FTX as they call them, field training exercises, where they have these various excursions throughout the Midwest. You know, they have one at Cambria, Wisconsin, where the government puts on this training. They basically set up like obstacle courses for these guys, and then they film them running through it. And then they use that as evidence to pay that these men were running a terrorism training camp at trial.

Starting point is 01:15:21 Like, that's what they do. And Jason Chambers spent I think like six million dollars on this case. I think that's what the defense lawyers estimated the resources that the FBI used for it. Oh my God! That's just one of the backgrounds of the FBI and like their motivation to create this stuff, right? I have here from the discovery, I have certain things. So one of them was things that Jason Chambers was like sending out to drum up business for his private company where he brags about like spending FBI resources to create his private company. This was an email exchange.

Starting point is 01:16:04 We don't know who this was sent to because the name is redacted, but this is from Jason Chambers, a guy who worked the Boston Marathon Bombing in the Whitmer case. He says, I trust negotiations with Louisiana and other states are proceeding well. So Ex-Intel was marketing proprietary software

Starting point is 01:16:23 for like threats for public events and he was trying to sell this private company's stuff to different state governments. He was trying to get contracts for like security for state governments. Some of them by the way it's so funny because he talks about like a securing securing government buildings and stuff. So if you could get a bunch of guys to like go inside this capital at Lansing and get pictures of that in the media, you can maybe sell your product to state governments. But he goes, I trust negotiations with Louisiana and other states are proceeding well. In the interim, Shelley and I are daily planning and preparing for exit Intel to go live. That's his private company. He says, he. He, th. He, th. He, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. He, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi. So tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, so tho, so tho, so tho, so tho, so thu thu th th th th th th th th th th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, the the thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, the thi. So, thi thi thi the the the the, Shelley and I are daily planning and preparing for Exa Intel to go live.

Starting point is 01:17:07 That's his private company. He says, I've also been preparing things at my office so that I can leave the Bureau and join Exa Intel full time very soon after it's funded. So he had not secured funding yet for his private company, but he was trying to. He says, I am currently the acting supervisory special agent of my squad, which has allowed me, this is key, to reallocate resources such that my eventual exit will be relatively painless. What is he talking about reallocating FBI resources? Well, this woman, Shelley, that he mentions in here, that he's daily planning for his private company to go live,

Starting point is 01:17:51 he was paying her as a FBI informant. He was giving her envelopes of cash for work she was doing to launch his private company. Unbelievable, right? Now, that's probably illegal, by the way. The defense lawyers in this case alerted the prosecutor Nils Kessler, who by the way would have the prosecutorial discretion to go after this federal agent and investigate him. And he says, I've enclosed documents which seem to establish Mr. Chambers has in fact a connection to exit Intel and was looking to leave the FBI in order to strike it out on his own in a private for-profit endeavor. He says that of note they changed the

Starting point is 01:18:35 website logo after news of his involvement in this company broke. He says that he believes this was done in order to conceal Jason Chambers' connection to that private company, which is a violation of 18 U.S. Code Section 1519. I trust your office will open an appropriate criminal investigation into this conduct. That doesn't happen. That's just one of these agents. All of them were corrupt. It's so crazy, right.

Starting point is 01:19:03 And the government didn't call them to testify because if they did, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th agents. All of them were corrupt. It's so crazy, right? And the government didn't call them to testify because if they did, they know Jason Chambers could have been asked about his private company on the stand and maybe we could have gotten more information about what exit Intel was doing. It's unbelievable to me. And if you, let's go look at the, uh, the connection to the FBI to the Vegas shooting. He, Stephen Paddock had a plane that was owned by the FBI at some point, right? You mean, you got a new gunrunner? The FBI came in, took over the investigation and they were up stuff, and they're like, don't talk about that. And the sheriff got quiet.

Starting point is 01:19:47 About another car? I thought the narrative was that he lost a lot of money and he was really mad at the casino and he shot everybody up. The millionaire. Yeah, that's the narrative that he was running bad upset. He was a, he was 100% a gun runner for the government. Didn't he send his girlfriend back to her homeland? Yeah, well there was somebody running around telling everybody they're going to die. There was three people in that.

Starting point is 01:20:15 Based on the evidence in the hotel room, three people at least were in there. One one was running around going, you're all going to die tonight. She does look crazy though. Like if you think about it, you're at a music festival, wherever you're at, and some girls just walking around saying, you're gonna die tonight, you're like, that person is crazy. Yeah, what are you supposed to do? And then the second it happens, you're like, f-In't-In't-I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the- started to fall off instantly on a high impact event. And that's why it's slowly faded away. Nobody discussed it. Yeah, just like that Nashville guy, right?

Starting point is 01:20:54 The guy that went and planted an explosive in Nashville, and it happened to be near this like AT&T. Oh yeah. And then apparently he had this like RV and it, it's a, the wheeled, the wheeled, and it's a wheeled, the wheeled, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, and it, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, the wheeled, th, th. th. the th. th. th. the wi, th. th. th. th. th. th. We, th. th. We, the w. th. the w. th. th. th. the w. It, th. It, th. It, th.............................. It, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, slowly, slowly, slowly, the, slowly, slowly, the the the the the the NSA, data center, or something. And then apparently he had this like RV and it broadcast a warning for everybody to just get out of the area, you know, in advance. And we never heard anything about that guy, did we? Nope, not at all.

Starting point is 01:21:18 And then like they said he, then they said he died. And then he was like, then they saw him on film like a week later somewhere, where they're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he died and then he was like, then they saw him on film like a week later somewhere where they're like, we're looking for this guy. You mean the dude you said was dead? Yeah, just like they're looking for the January 6th pipe bomber. Yeah, yeah, then it turns out to be like some FBI agent or something like that. I mean, it's just unbelievable. And then you have Ray Apps, I mean, they. they. they. they, I'm they's, I'm they's, I'm they's, I'm they's, I'm they're, I'm they're they're they're they're they're like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm th. th. th. they're like, I'm th. they're like, I'm they're like, I's, I's. they're like, they're like, they're like, th. they're like, they're like, they. they're like, the the the the the the they's like, they. they's like, they's like, they's like, I's like, I's like, I's like, I's. they. they're they're they're they're th. th. they're th. they're th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. they're like, th. they're like, they're like, th. they're like, thi. they're like, they're like, the have Ray Apps. I mean, this whole thing with Ray Apps on January 6th, where it's like, I'm not an informant. And then it's like totally he's the only guy not getting investigated.

Starting point is 01:21:54 Like, it's just so crazy how it's like, it's like, are they just not smart? Like, can't you investigate him poorly? So you can at least say I investigated him? We investigated him? Well, you didn't ask many questions. Well, we didn't say it was the best investigation, but there was an investigation. It's so. I don't know if it's incompetence or what, but it seemed like with the Whitmer case, you know, what I've seen from the documents is that they wanted this to be a multi-state event. Actually, while the official investigation

Starting point is 01:22:34 into the Wolverine Watchman militia doesn't begin until March of 2020, these informants were in contact with and surveilling targets, going back in some cases to 2018 when the FBI appears to have had some kind of operation to infiltrate the Midwest militia movement and they tried to create a fake group called the Midwest Coalition where they were using one of these informants in there to try to do this. One of the informants in the Whitmer case suggested that these guys go fire rounds into different governor's houses like all at the same time.

Starting point is 01:23:14 So he wanted like, the FBI wanted this to be a multi-state thing. We're in various states, all at the same time, governor's houses would be shot up or something. So this informant admitted under this this to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to their to their to their to their to their to their their to their to fire. to fire. their to to to fire. to fire. their their their to s. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their fire. th. tie.s.s. tie.s.s. tie. tie. tie. tie. their their their their their their their their their the same time governor's houses would be shot up or something. So this informant admitted under oath to suggesting firing rounds in governor's houses and then mailing the shell casings to the different governors of different states. The FBI suggested to one of the targets of the investigation that they kidnapping and kill Ralph Northam. So the government claims that, and so the official narrative is that there was a nationwide meetup of militia groups in June of 2020 at the jury in, in Ohio, and that these various people from various militia groups, this is when the plot originated,

Starting point is 01:24:06 the FBI claims to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer and to, I guess, storm state capitals and all this other crazy nonsense. But that's not true at all. Like none of the stuff that they said happened actually happened. The FBI called that meeting, the nationwide meetup of militia groups. So their official narrative, they don't ever mention their informants and like what roles they played. They just say, oh, we foiled a plot with these militia groups that were planning to do all this violence and, you know, overthrow the government and kidnap and kill politicians.

Starting point is 01:24:45 They don't say that the FBI called and chaired that meeting. Not only did they call and share the meeting, they commandeered the entire hotel. They had undercover agents at the hotel with their children, like there were children present, and we later find out that the FBI took over the entire hotel. So we're like, whose kids were that then, that were at the pool area. So the FBI calls the meeting, they have their informant sharing the meeting,

Starting point is 01:25:18 at this meeting are six other federal informants, all wearing recording devices, and then there are five targets. These are people that, as I said, had been put into that database of people that the government, the FBI wanted to target. So these informants invite the targets to this meeting where they try to set them up. And it's the informants that are recorded suggesting violence. I have the statements here. that that that that the thaa. thiiiiiia. thia. thia, thia, thi. I the the the thi. I the thi. I their their their thi. I'm their their their their thoomoom, thi. I'm thi. tho. tho. I thooomo. their tho. I the the thoes the the the the the the the the thoes the the thoes thi. I thi. I th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have thi. I have that, that, that, that, thate, thate, thate, thate, thate. I'm the. I'm the. I've thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. thea. the. the. the. the. I. I have the statements here.

Starting point is 01:25:47 Again, this was all the stuff the jury didn't get to see, but they talk about how they need goals and plans and objectives, and it's just crazy. I don't want to take the time to try to dig through it, to read it word for word, but you can see in the evidence here that like none of the stuff they said was true, was actually true, and the government creates fake militia groups, they create fake Facebook pages, that's what they did in this case. They created a fake National 3%er group called the Patriot 3% group, that their informant Steve Robeson was

Starting point is 01:26:27 opposing as the head of Wisconsin chapter for that group. By the way, that man is a convicted pedophile. He is a 20-year criminal and the FBI withheld that information from their own records by the way. I have his CHS file where the FBI notes his lengthy criminal record and they conveniently leave off his pedophilia charge. That's an aside. But this guy was the one sharing the meeting and getting everybody riled up. And so what they would do is these informants would pay for the hotel, so the FBI pays for the hotel room. They've got agent stationed all over it. The government claims that these defend, so the FBI pays for the hotel room. They've got agents stationed all over it.

Starting point is 01:27:05 The government claims that these defendants called this meeting, a nationwide meetup of militia groups. They won't show who actually reserved the hotel room and whose credit card is paying for it. Why? Because it'll show that it was the FBI. They had informants there who had listening devices disguised as credit cards. So when you watch the movies, you know, and the informants they're wired up,

Starting point is 01:27:32 right? And they're like, show us your shirt. They have like credit cards now that are listening devices and key fobs on a keychain. Oh my god, dude. Yeah, so it is crazy. And they had this 70-year-old disabled Vietnam veteran named Frank Butler who they, the FBI invited to this meeting and they're, they get them drunk and stoned. So the government's buying ounces of weed and they're giving it to people. They're giving them alcohol. They're paying for their food, they're paying for their travel. And then they tell their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their food, they're paying for their travel, and then they tell this 70-year-old disabled Vietnam veteran that he should kidnap and kill Ralph Northam. Now I have text messages from the FBI handling agent, Jason Chambers, to the informant, Dan Chapel, where he specifically says, mission is to kill the governor specifically so the FBI is coming up with the mission, right?

Starting point is 01:28:29 And then they're telling their informant tell Frank that's his mission. It's to kill Ralph Northam and then the FBI informant texts Frank Butler a recipe for making explosives with household items like sugar and draino and then directs him to double the ingredients. Now that, if that elderly man actually tried to mix that shit up that the FBI gave him, that bomb recipe, he could have taken out his entire block. Thank God he didn't do that. But Frank, Frank was just one guy that the Thank God he didn't do that. But Frank was just one guy that the FBI targeted here that they were trying to entrap.

Starting point is 01:29:11 And they have targets in 15 different states. That's, it's all in the documents that were in the discovery, that this is all out there. It's the stuff that is still under seal. If you just go through it and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and organize and's that the stuff that is still under seal. You know, if you just go through it and organize it and put it together, the story is in there. Some of the most important stuff is still under seal, but hopefully that will get unsealed and we'll learn more about it. But yeah, this is the kind of thing that they do, and they don't care about it at all. Like the FBI, they were driving their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their, their, their their, their their their their their their their their, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their story. their story. ta, ta, ta.a. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. their story. their story. their story. their their, their, they were driving these guys on various excursions and they were lying to them. So the government, what are their claims?

Starting point is 01:29:48 They've charged these guys with weapons of mass destruction, WMDs. Where if we heard that lie before, right? Jesus. WMDs? Yeah. It's unbelievable. And by the way, I just have this tweet that has almost 3 million views bragging, not bragging. But I go, things that conspiracy theories got right. No webs of mass destruction in Iraq. The amount of people telling me I'm wrong about that is unbelievable. Oh my gosh. WMD? Yeah. No, dude. Dude, come on, bro. Come on. That's a lie. That's a lie. And because they think chemical weapons are weapons of weapons. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the on, bro, come on, that's a lie, that's a lie,

Starting point is 01:30:26 and because they think chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction. Oh my god. So they're bringing up all these chemical weapons that they had, but not, it's like, it's like, dude, it is truly amazing. It is. Yeah, so they've charged these guys with having WMDs, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, thes, ths, ths, ths, ths, ths, ths, they, ths, th, th, th, th, th, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they, they, they, th. th. th. th. they, th. th. they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,s because Barry like tapes some pennies on a firework and then detonated it in a tree. That's what they call, that's what the FBI is now calling WMDs. But yeah, they came up with this narrative though that these guys were conspiring to kidnap Whitmer and that they wanted to purchase explosives or something. So towards the end, when they wanted to wrap this up and arrest these guys, they wanted to have their October surprise, so they had to do it before the election.

Starting point is 01:31:11 Like five months into the investigation, there's text messages between the informant, Dan Chappel, to his handling agent and he says, these guys don't have a plan. I'm wanting to know, are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are are you to know, are you to know, are you to know, are you, are you, are you, are you to know, are you, are you, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to to to to to to to to too, tooom, tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do, they. they. they. they. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I'm wanting to know, are you sort of like wasting my time in a sense? So five months into the investigation, their own informants say that there's no plan, these guys aren't really doing anything. And then the FBI says, well, we need to get Pete to come up with the plan, and that if he does, if you can get him to come up with the plan, we can make it happen. So they are like, it's every single thing. Every single overt act that the government alleges these guys did, it's them doing it.

Starting point is 01:31:54 It's the FBI doing it. The WMDs, that was the FBI. Okay, so they talk about Barry having an unregistered destructive device because one of these government sponsored field training exercises Barry took a purchase legally a firework and he tapes some pennies on it to try to turn it into a flashbang so that the guys could practice with something like that and he tied it into a, hung it from a tree and detonated it and the government says because there were human targets in that tree from their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, their, and then, triaughe, theaughe, theaughe, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thauiiiia, thauia, thauiia, thauia, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thau.e, thau.e, thau.e, thau.e, thau.e, thauia, thauiiiiiiiii from a tree and detonated it. And the government says because there were human targets in that tree from their training from earlier,

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Starting point is 01:32:59 that it didn't happen, and that he didn't actually see it. And then so they claimed that these guys wanted to purchase explosives, that they had the intent to purchase them so that they could blow up a bridge to slow police response, supposedly from Whitmer's cottage, her vacation cottage, right? So the FBI introduces an undercover agent, special agent Timothy Bates, and I will name and shame him. Thank you very much. Going by UCE Red though, that's what they call undercover agents in court documents. So UCE Red is brought in posing as an explosives expert.

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Starting point is 01:35:41 magazines or something. So these guys got led to this takedown thinking they were going to get free gear. And the government says, well, you showed up because you wanted to buy explosives. You were coming to put a down payment for explosives. And like, they go through the pockets of like the people they arrested that day. These guys didn't have any money on them. Like they weren't going to purchase explosives. They admit that you guys told them they were going to go get free gear and hot wings. Dude, that's what they do. Some people might pull some shit for some hot wings. Some people might commit felonies for hot wings.

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Starting point is 01:37:01 to trial this summer, Eric Mulliter at the state case for providing material support for terrorism, he gets invited to this thing. He has no idea where he's going. When he gets in the car, he's just told that they're going to go like hang out or something. Brian Higgins, another guy that was invited to the daytime recon is told that they're going to go arrest child traffickers or something or do like a citizens arrest of child traffickers. So that's how he gets duped into going there. You know, it's all government agents other than like three guys that is doing the recon and driving the cars that the FBI paid for. And for the night, recon, Barry was told that the FBI paid for. And for the night recon, Barry was told that they were doing land navigation training and even picked up on wire in the car.

Starting point is 01:37:56 Dan Chapel, the informant, is the one driving, sitting next to him in the front seat as Special Agent Timothy Bates, UCE, red. He is heard on the recording saying to Dan something like, you know, do these guys know what we're doing tonight or do they know where we're going and Barry is heard on the audio in the backseat saying destination unknown. Barry's admitting he doesn't know where he's going. He's told that they're going to do land navigation training and then the FBI drives him by Whitmer's cottage, where the FBI in advance has installed a pole cam. A pole cam is

Starting point is 01:38:33 like a camera that's providing 24-7 live feed video and audio to the FBI and it has like heat-seeking, shit or whatever night vision. So they wanted to get these guys at night driving along, pick it up on the pull cam so then they could use that against them later as evidence that oh look here they're driving by, they're casing the place. But it's that's not what happened. They like they get tricked, you know, and apparently they did this so so bad. The FBI was so stupid in how they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi thi. thi thi thi thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to to to ti ty toda. to took took to try. to took took to try try. try. thi. th. They like they get tricked, you know, and apparently they did this so bad. The FBI was so stupid in how they did this. They didn't even catch them on the pull cam that the FBI installed prior to planning the night recon. This is why I called the documentary an FBI terror plot because everything is planned by the FBI. They're talking about maximizing attendance.

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Starting point is 01:40:04 They are take the FBI is photographing Adam as he's sitting at a restaurant, just drawing something with a sharpie on a piece of paper, trying to draw a map because this informant told him to do it, and he's just trying to please this guy, you know, who he sees as a father figure, who is calling him, pressuring him every single day. There's calls, there's text messages between them and then we see him telling Adam, oh yeah, go get out of the vehicle and go take a picture under the bridge, pose with your gun. So Adam being the, you know, naive person he is, he gets out, this is

Starting point is 01:40:44 the homeless man that is framed as the ringleader. He gets out, poses under the, you know, naive person he is. He gets out, this is the homeless man that is framed as the ringleader. He gets out, poses under the bridge like this with his guns, and then they tell him, oh, now post that picture in the encrypted group chat. And he does, like the FBI is directing it as a movie, tell him to go take a picture, tell him to post it here, and then they'll use that against him later to say he was planning a kidnapping. Oh look he posted this here, he was bragging, and it's like, you guys told him to do that. I have the text messages from the

Starting point is 01:41:17 FBI agent to the informant saying, tell Adam to post his pictures in the group chat, you know, in all this other nonsense that they do. 100%. Now, here's something I know. Like, I've never once seen somebody have a press conference saying they almost got kidnapped. Right? Have you ever seen that before? Where usually they'll have like law enforcement do it because if there's a plot to kidnap you, a real plot to kidnap you, could it possibly be that there's more people out there trying to do it? Do you want to put yourself out in the place where you could be easily grabbed right I mean I've never seen that today today we found out there's a plot to kidnap me it it sounds so narcissistic by the way, like you're just loved it. Oh, she loves me. You see your crazy eyes?

Starting point is 01:42:05 What was her involvement in that? Did she, how, when was she looped in on this whole thing? That's a really good question. And actually, I have my own questions for Gretchen Whitmer. In fact, I just posted a clip on my Twitter today of a interview that she gave. And everybody's forgotten about this, October 20th of 2020, where she talks about how Donald Trump unleashed white supremacist domestic terrorists against her and she grandstands for like five minutes straight. They've got Dana Nessel in there talking crap saying that

Starting point is 01:42:35 oh three progressive women run Michigan and that's why Trump hated us and he targeted us directly like it is an insane interview And I really encourage people to watch that clip. If you want to know why they orchestrated this hoax, go watch that clip. I'm telling you they're grooming her for higher office, just like Gavin Newsom. Whitmer is giving speeches at the World Economic Forum on gun violence. But I believe she knew about, first of all, she had to have to to to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have a to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. to to to to to to to have to have to have to have to have to have the the to have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the trueu. the the the the true. tooooo. too. too. too. toe., first of all, she had to have known at some point in the investigation because she had to have approved

Starting point is 01:43:09 the installation of the Polkham at her vacation cottage, right, prior to the FBI planning the night recon. So she had to have known. Further, during the retrial of Adam and Barry, there is a US attorney that was appointed to be head of the Western District named Mark Toten. Toten used to be Whitmer's personal attorney. He recused himself from the retrial of Adam and Barry. Now his recusal memo has never been made public, despite the defense lawyers trying to get it because because they wanted to know why he recused himself, because they suspect that Mark Toten,

Starting point is 01:43:48 her personal lawyer, was the one interfacing between her and the FBI while they planned this entire hopes. And it would be interesting to subpoena his communications and find out exactly what did she know and when did she know it. What was her involvement in this? And I asked the same about Attorney General Dana Nessel from Michigan, who continues to this day to defame these guys, the four men that are going to trial this summer in Antrim County for providing material support for this made-up hoax.

Starting point is 01:44:24 She continues to refer to those defendants as members for this made up hoax. She continues to refer to those defendants as members of the Wolverine Watchmen militia, when FBI special agents, Hunrick and Paula, said at the state trial in Traverse City just earlier this year, that none of those men were actual members of the Wolverine watchman. He said that under oath. So it's stunning to me that this continues. I want people to watch that, though. Look at the interview they both did

Starting point is 01:44:53 on eight with ABC News, October 20th of 2020. You'll see she absolutely was involved in some way. And I hope that eventually the recusal memo from Mark Toten comes out in addition to the communications they had with the FBI while this thing was ongoing, because that would make everything she said about these men a knowing lie. Like I think she knew she was lying when she said that they were just like ISIS and they were running a terrorism training camp. She knew it was the FBI that was running their field training exercises. Yeah, and so you go again, what is this all about?

Starting point is 01:45:31 Why do they want to create a domestic terrorism bureau of the homeland security? Well, what they've already demonstrated that once you get labeled a terrorist, your constitutional rights are gone. You have no constitutional rights, okay? We've seen it with the Supermax where El Chappo is, even though he's not labeled domestic or terrorists, but like, that's where all the terrorists are, by the way. That's where one of the Whitmer guys is too.

Starting point is 01:46:01 He's now there. They sent him there because he participated in my documentary. He's now a Florence Supermax and Barry's a terror out in Indiana. Oh no. They sent him there because of, oh no. Because of your movie? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. That's a whole other story. It's like, oh damn. What you're saying, Sam has it gives me a question. And I wanted to ask this. So, so, so, so, th. th. th. th. th. the th. the to, the to, to, the to, to, the to, the the to, to, the the to, to, the the the, th. tho, the tho, they, they, tho, tho, they, thi, they, he, he, he, he, he, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he thi, he they, he, he, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th. He, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be tooomoomorou. tooomorrow, too. to. too. to. th. th. th it gives me a question though, and I wanted to ask this.

Starting point is 01:46:26 So, we've seen, if the government really wants to stitch somebody up though, they can do it clean. We know they can, and this is not clean. So much of this is just very sloppy and incompetent. What do you, what do you, I'm curious, any of you, why do you think that is? Because if they wanted to do it clean, they could have. Well, I mean, could it also be non-linear warfare? That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. Is there, look at us, we're discussing it.

Starting point is 01:46:52 So now we are, we're part of the side that doesn't trust intelligence. And then you have the other people going, oh, God, they they they they they they they they they they they they they're. kidnap the the governor and now now you have text and stuff those could have been disappeared so easily yeah but well then yeah I don't mean I don't know well my old thing I just want to get into this is like this really is about being able to suspend people's constitutional rights and have them not I mean we've seen in January 6 these guys still don't get to see their lawyers. Okay in the different case you know that guy that got caught up with that discord, that whistleblower, do you think there was any informants inside that discord that maybe convinced them to do that where they picked on him?

Starting point is 01:47:34 We're like, you know he's an idiot. We do this, then we pass some laws and because on discord, I I I I I I I their think, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th. thi, th. th. Do, th, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, that, that, th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, th. Do, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that that that that that that thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, th, there's a lot of shit going on Discord. If you look into it, there's a lot of like private groups, malicious stuff. A lot of grooming, right? Like Peyton Gendron, the Buffalo Mass Shooter was communicating with a retired federal agent in Discord prior to that. Yeah. Yeah. To me, this thing could almost be like a CIA to fuck with the FBI. You know what I mean? It's something, I just feel like there's no way to zoom out.

Starting point is 01:48:05 No, no, that is 100% on the, there's been talk about how the CIA, which technically isn't allowed to operate in America, would want to infiltrate and take over the FBI. And we've seen what's it called? Sheep dip? Is that what's called? We're basically you're both, you're, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, both, you're, you know, I mean, so this, you make the FBI look bad, you know, I mean, you could take it over through the inside. That's so interesting. You know, one of the things about the old Pat Con operations from like the 90s, the different groups that were infiltrated by the FBI back then. A lot of those groups were suspected to have to have to have to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thiii.. the thii. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I mean. I mean. I mean. I thi. I mean. I mean, thi. I mean, thi. I m. I m. I m. I m. I m. I m. I m. I thi. I thi. I thi. I I thi. I I thi. I I I thi. I I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I m. I'm. I'm. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I mean, th. I mean, th. I mean, th. th. th. th. You. th. You. You m. You. You th. I'm. th. I, the different groups that were infiltrated by the FBI back then. A lot of those groups were suspected to have been connected to the CIA and Iran contra. So I just kind of thought that's interesting that there might be some kind of interagency dispute

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Starting point is 01:49:39 so a very famous quote. Will you look up, former head of FBI Los Angeles, Ted, we played this on on Conspiracy Social Club, but I think it's a great way to kind of wrap it up here. What he said about the intelligence agencies of America and then he was found floating dead in the river. I mean, now you say, so the CIA brings the drunks of freeway, Rick Ross, right? You don't think they tell the FBI. Oh, Ted Gunnerson? Yeah. Don't you don't think the FBI tells, the CIA tells the FPI, don't, don't fuck with him a lot. Like, we need him to get rid of these kilos. So they do work together. They do. They do. They do. They do. They they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they do. They don. They don. They don't they don't they don't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tell. Don't tell. Don't tell. Don't tell. Don't tell. Don't tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell t it's fine. But basically he says that every major catastrophe, high impact event that happens in the world is done through these intelligence agencies, the Bilderberg groups, the World Economic

Starting point is 01:50:38 Forums, even though that wasn't as big then, but he basically breaks down that all of it is manufactured through intelligence agencies. And that's that's what it happens. And you know if you really even get into what we've talked about on this show is like how how the mafia and the CIA have a lot of ties and that's through the Catholic Church. Most terror attacks are committed by our CIA and the CIA. Yeah, yeah, basically. Well, it's a little different, it's a different video, but yeah, let's hear that. It's the CIA, the army of individuals who have a license to kill.

Starting point is 01:51:17 It's like Murder Incorporator. Oh, are you kidding? The CIA makes the mafia look like a sunny school class. I mean ours, this is the problem with what's actually happening in Afghanistan. They, look, the CIA is done. I just say it sounds like somebody that would be found floating dead in a river. Well, former FBI? Unbelievable. Look at the terrorist accident have occurred. The CI behind most, if not all of them. We had the Marine barracks. Their embassy in Kenya. We had Pan Am. One-O-3. We had the U.S.

Starting point is 01:51:57 coal. We had Oklahoma City. We had the World Trade Center in 1993. Our government was involved in some of the US. That was huge. No, but I do have documentation that there was government implication in some of these. We'll discuss them as we go. Well, Ted, the people out there. This is eight minutes. I mean, I... Yeah, we don't need to watch all of it.

Starting point is 01:52:22 But it basically breaks down that. It's all, it's all intelligence. You think it's getting worse? You think every year it's getting worse? You think when Obama was running it, or you think it's getting... Well, a lot people think it's got more brazen since Obama was in. Obama is a intelligence operation plant. His grandfather worked with George Bush Sr. to build up the CIA. His mother was an M.K. Ultra-sex kitten. His grandfather sent his mother into missions to seduce targets.

Starting point is 01:53:03 This is all facts. He has, it's not even his real name. So, you know, and then you get into ISIS and like the government creating ISIS and Benghazi was all about cleaning up that. So it didn't come back to Hillary, John McCain, and O'Brock Obama. I mean, I listed that thing. I could go on forever. Everything that came out that was true. The whole hippie movement, FBICIA, it's all, every major cultural thing.

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Starting point is 01:54:15 The security guard from the Vegas shooting shows up on the Ellen DeGeneres show. There's no way they weren't around Rogan anytime they could be around Rogan. Anybody. I have ideas, not gonna say, don't want to get into it. Don't need that shit in my life right now. Okay, right? I mean like look at what, look at the Fuji's man. I mean he was basically working for the Chinese government. He got busted. You got me thinking like they're probably in the weed game too. Funding money to Brock Obama. That story's th th th th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's th's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I thinking like they're probably in the weed game too. Fuggling money to Brock Obama. That story's dead. Oh they love the weed game dude because it's all cash. They love that. So I'm like now he got me thinking I was like who that fucking be real studios in FPI and F. And now like what the fucks going on? Well you'll lose your mind doing that pro. But you gotta go like what do they th. th. th. the th. their th. th. their th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.? You know, we never know. It's usually just who's the biggest dip shit in the room I would imagine. No, but it's like these text messages and stuff,

Starting point is 01:55:12 these guys. I mean like look at the culture, look at the, you know, people, hey, here, and it, Martin Luther King was, Martin Luther King was an FBI asset to counter Malcolm X. When he started going off the reservation, talking about class wars, that's, th.. th th th th th the the the th the the th their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they he started going off the reservation talking about class wars, that's when they offed them. Okay, look at the feminist movement. Gloria, what's her name? Steinem? Steinem. FBI asset. Jesse Jackson basically brought Martin Luther King to the hotel to be shot. And then we've had guests in that FBI. I'm not going to the hotel to be shot. And then we've had guests in that FBI. Oh, I'm not going to get into that part because then daddy gets in trouble.

Starting point is 01:55:51 But we've had guests talk about it. Al Sharpton was an FBI informant. Yeah, how do people still follow these people? And they love Al Sharpton. That's amazing. Right. Selling out his own people. They're all there.

Starting point is 01:56:07 And again, I don't have a problem with law enforcement trying to stop problems. I have a problem as I think most Americans would be with an intelligence agency creating a problem in order to be. to pull back your right, your constitutional rights. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think that one of the main goals of the Whitmer hoax was the, is it going to be the criminalization of militia activity. There was a law, an anti-terrorism law passed in Michigan in 2002 directly after 9-11 that has to do with

Starting point is 01:56:47 aiding and abetting. So basically if the government says that you aided and abetted somebody in Michigan, you can be charged the same as like an actual terrorist. So that's what the estate cases are for for providing material support, it's adding, aiding and abetting. So now it's guilt by association. It's like if you knew somebody that we framed or you were in the same discord grease chat, or you were in telegram or whatever, like they'll say you're now somehow connected to or tied to terrorism or you provided support for it because maybe you can burst with somebody at one point and then the government frames them later. I think that's been the most terrifying aspect of this.

Starting point is 01:57:30 Like Brandon, he got tied up in all this because he was in a group in discord in like June of 2020 and they somebody said, oh hey, you should come train with these guys because we all know what was going on in 2020 as far as like riots and stuff. Yeah, for sure. You've got a bunch of guys that are like, oh, sure, free training. People pay thousands of dollars to learn how to, you know, be better with firearms. Okay. So he goes and attends one of these Ftxes. walking into like an active TEI investigation. Unbelievable. And he gets arrested just a few months later.

Starting point is 01:58:07 He's only met these guys like three times. You know, and then like when they arrested him, they did it at his job. They got his management involved and lured him into a back room where he was told like his manager wanted to talk to him and those like 18 plain clothes federal agents wearing balaclava's on their heads and they're like, get on the ground now, you know, stop resisting and he doesn't know who it is because they're not identifying themselves as FBI, they're not wearing any kind of like logo. He thought he was being kidnapped or something or that he was going to be executed. And then some guy comes out in a suit like smoking and they're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get like, get tho, get thi, get th. thi, get their th. th, get th. th, get th, get th, get th, get th, get th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thea, thi. thea, their their their their their their that he was going to be executed. And then some guy comes out in a suit like smoking and they're like, is this him? Is this the guy?

Starting point is 01:58:50 And he says to him, what's your name? And he's like, Brandon? And he's like, that's him. And then they just kind of like take him down to the interrogation room. And that's the first time he hears like why he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he he's, he's, he's, he's, he, he's, he's, he, he's, he, he, he's, he, he's, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, that he's, that he's, th. th. that he's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the first time he hears like why he's there. They're like, you were conspiring to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. And he goes, for what? And they're like, you tell us. We know, why don't you tell us? And he's just like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 01:59:18 Like, that's gonna be so scary to be in that position? when he walked in there, he probably thou- th th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. tho, that, that, th. And tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.... And, th.. And, th.... And, th.. And, th... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th's, thi. thi. thi. th to's, to's, to's, to's, to's, to's to's to's toe. to's toe. th th tho. th th tho. That's gotta be so scary to be in that position. And when he walked in there, he probably thought, wait, is there a march that I missed? Are we going out marching? And because the belief is that justice is served. And when a crime isn't committed, the truth will come out. And now what we're starting to see is the, the whole criminal justice system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system system. I. I, I, I, I, I, the whole criminal system system, I, I, the whole criminal justice system, I system, I system, I, the whole criminal justice system, I system, I, I, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the, the whole, the, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole criminal justice system, I mean, we've always known that.

Starting point is 01:59:45 I mean, black people be like, duh, I mean, forever, right? And then, you know, what happened to the Native Americans or the indigenous? What happened to the black community, now being to happen to white people, and it wasn't right then, and it's not right now. Exactly. Yeah, so Brandon spends 18 months in prison and they cut up his vehicle, he loses his apartment, he loses his job, and there's nothing for him. You know, he is acquitted and he's found completely innocent. A jury says the government and trapped

Starting point is 02:00:18 and framed him. They'd have given him nothing, you know. There was no apology. There's no, oh, here's your lost wages, you know? There was no apology, there's no, oh here's your lost wages, you know, or anything like that. Like you are, you've had everything taken from you and then you just have to kind of start out at the bottom again. And I feel like, no, they should have to compensate him for what they did, not just to him, but all of these guys should be compensated and Adam and Barry should be freed from Supermax where they're at right now because of their participation in my documentary. So it is very, it's demoralizing, you know, it is depressing. And then you see like how it's so obvious in some ways where they don't bother to hide some of it. And I think of revelation of the method where they want you to know that like you're living under tyranny and they want you to think that they're all powerful.

Starting point is 02:01:10 They want every single person to be terrified to meet up with people in real life, to be terrified that every single person around you is a fed or cop or something. Think about how they can neutralize any real effective dissent. I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they're theirseauc, they're they're they're their their they're they're they're they're they're th. thi, they're the. the. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they're they're thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. they're thiii. thi. thi. thi. dissent. I mean, going after these guys was a great way for them to demonize the anti-lockdown movement, and that's what they did. And this is what they continue to do. So I think part of it is, they want you to know that they're doing it. They want some people to be aware of that, and they think it's kind of funny, I suppose. And I think part of it is like an occult thing where they have to tell you what they're doing and for whatever reason for their bizarre satanic religion that somehow absolves them and they feel like well you deserve it because we tell you what we're doing you guys know and you put up

Starting point is 02:01:59 with it so I completely agree I completely agree. Christina completely 100% agree. Christina, you crushed it. Thank you so much for coming on. We've, this was eye opening. You did a great job. I felt I was a little off a couple times with, I just couldn't find the words. But you carried the show and you did great. So one more time, can you tell us where can you tell our listeners where they can find you? Yes, I appreciate that. Thank you. You guys. you. you. you. you. you. th th th you. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. Thank th. Thank th. thi. Thank th. thi thi. th. th. Thank th. th. Thank th. Thank th. th. Thank th. th. th. Thank th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. time can you tell us where can you tell our listeners where they can find you? Yes, I appreciate that. Thank you. You guys can find me at RadixVarim.com. That's my website and you'll be able to find information about the documentary there. It doesn't have a release date or a distributor yet, but hopefully we'll have one soon. But you can sign up. I have my fundraiser for the documentary th. th. th. th. th. th. the documentary to to to the documentary to the documentary to the documentary to the documentary to the documentary to the documentary to the documentary to to the documentary to to the documentary to to to to to to to th. to to to the show the show th. th. th. th. to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show. the show. the show. the show. So, toe. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. So, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. I. th. th for the documentary where I post updates so people can follow that. The documentary website is K, the letter K, and the NDK, film.com. I didn't want to get the website

Starting point is 02:03:00 Kidnap and Kill.com because I thought that'd be a little weird. Yeah, you might be in trouble on that one. I'm already on like the federal watch list of purchasing that domain would get me there So is it finished or have you done your final cut is it done? It's not completed yet. I'm still fundraising for this. I've completely paid for everything out of pocket so far, but I have raised some of the money? I need to complete it. so. you. to? I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm still the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are their, are their, their, their, their, their, are their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. their their their their their their their their their their their tho. the money I need to complete it, so it's about halfway done. I still have various places to go to though throughout the country, but I have put some of the stuff out there because it's important, it's time sensitive, and I still have two innocent people in Supermax. So I can't wait to see it. Thank you. You are doing the Lord's work and we appreciate that.

Starting point is 02:03:47 Thank you so much. And yeah, we look forward to seeing more work from you and you have an open door to come on anytime you want. So thank you so much. We greatly appreciate it and I hope you guys enjoy this episode. Jackson, Mississippi, let's go buy Buy some tickets, man. Baton Rouge, you're doing great, but Jackson, Mississippi, come get weird, San Diego, California.

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Starting point is 02:04:39 And watch some sneak peaks and some more episodes on other shows I have a little sneak peek for you so enjoy these and we will talk to you soon. Here's a clip from the latest broken Sim. Did you see Richard Drivers? Starting in 2024 films. This is actually fantastic. By the way, stop. Can you stop this for a second?

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Starting point is 02:05:31 They make me vomit. Why? Because this is an art. It's also a form of commerce and it makes money, but it's an art. And no one should be telling me as an artist that I have to give in to the latest, most current idea of what morality is. And I'm sorry, I don't think that there's a minority or a majority in the country that has to be catered to like that.

Starting point is 02:06:11 So that was Jaws. So he goes on. So this is a young Turk, huh? Well, that interview was on PBS. How hot is she, bro. Does she look like she farts cotton candy? I don't know. Nobody does.

Starting point is 02:06:26 But that's so Dreyfus goes on to say, I don't want to listen to her talk about. Dreyfus goes on to say that like Lawrence Olivier played a brown man or you know and did a convincing job of it. Why can't I play a black man? Basically he says something about like you're going to tell me I can't do blackface? Yeah, that's where he goes with it. Well, what's funny is like, it's just they've been they've been crucifying him on that quote. Yeah, but what does he give a shit? It's a done. But he wasn't even serious though. I mean, he was like saying, no, I'm with you. But this is the, but by the way, Johnny, by the way, Johnny, by the way the right and the left do this. They take something and they just blow it up and they run with it. Yeah, absolutely. You know?

Starting point is 02:07:07 And make him look like an old geyser, like lost, lost his mind. Of course. When really he's just, it's just fucking weird man. He's got it together as much as I do it. And it's just like he's totally right. And it's just like, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. this, you know, the strike is going on, Johnny, and I'm for the, I'm for the Writers Guild. I'm for the writers. I want them to get, they're asking for 3% of the profits.

Starting point is 02:07:34 Give them 3% of the profits. Why not? But, the writers get shafted for sure in the whole process. They deserve to get paid, but I will say right into the camera, you're putting out dog shit. Yeah. I'm sorry. But how much does that is people getting promoted that? But, but, but, but then you see their social media and a lot of these writers just shit on the middle of the country, shit on the south, all the time. Those are the people they choose they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their they their, they their, their, their, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that that. that. that. that. th South all the time. Those are the people they hire. What? Those are the people they choose to hire in Hollywood.

Starting point is 02:08:06 But that doesn't matter because those are the people who are striking right now. So I want them to get their 3% because I support workers. But I'm just gonna tell them, both the exacts and the writers are putting out dog shit. It just you are. And I get it because you have to you have to pitch what they're buying, okay? But in your personal, your personal, Twitter's and your Instagrams and whatever one man shows you're putting on. You're just putting out woke dog shit. And I'm sorry. That has, whether it's your fault or not, you have participated in this, and it is why nobody's watching anything anymore.

Starting point is 02:08:52 And at some point, at some point, they're gonna go, we don't care that we're losing money because every bailout, we get our books cleaned out. We're losing our ability to program them. And it's not working, right? So it's going to be a very hard cut. Now, Johnny, we've talked about this before. I will tell you, you may not see all the late night talk shows come back. From this? Really? If it goes long enough. What, like Kemmel or something? talk shows come back. From this? Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:09:25 If it goes long enough? What, like Kemmel or something? What do you think? Kimmel will come back, but I wouldn't doubt if you see like some of the later shows not come back. Huh. Why? Just because they realize they don't need them?

Starting point is 02:09:37 Yeah, they're not getting any numbers. And those shows are expensive to put thaa tha tha tha tha thoves thoves thoves thoes thoes tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to come thi. thi. to come to to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to expensive to put together. Those hosts demand a lot of money because it takes a lot of work to put those shows together that nobody's watching. And you can go like, well, Jimmy Fallon is getting three miller, like that's great, but that's networked television. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I do think that nobody's watching that shit anymore Especially not when it's on now now now they cut it up and they're like controversy and that's what they do We'll see what happens with Saturday Night Live now Johnny

Starting point is 02:10:12 Did you see that Fox News? I'll replace Tucker with somebody who I think is very smart for them to replace? I didn't see him with Trump's hot press secretary? That the republics all have a rock hard for. Yeah, that might be, I don't know. I mean, she did crush balls when she was doing that job. Listen, there's not a lot of people that the right swoons over like that. She's one of those. Yeah, nobody's gonna say shit to her for sure. We'll see if you will listen.

Starting point is 02:10:46 I've been seen on YouTube, Johnny, right? I've been seen on YouTube that the, that Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson are gonna work together. I don't know what that means though, but on YouTube and Twitter, they've been saying that. Yeah, I keep seeing that too. I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. thee thee thee, thi, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee, thee thee thee thee thee thee thee thee, thin, thi, thi, thin, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thin, thee, th. I don't know what that means, though, but on YouTube and Twitter, they've been saying that. Yeah, I keep seeing that too. I don't know if that's real. I will say I had this for later, but this is Tucker Carlson unleashed is going to be kind of fun.

Starting point is 02:11:15 There are members of Congress. This was him on Tulsa Gabbard. week this was fast who are controlled by the Intel agencies. I'm not speculating. Let me start that again. There are members of Congress who are controlled by the Intel agencies. I'm not speculating on this. You know, I live there for 35 years. I know this. I had a very high ranking, very high ranking member of the House Intel tell me at dinner at a restaurant of Washington when he'd been drinking. We got to talk about this. And I said, oh I'll text because I can't text. And I said, why is that? And he goes well because NSA reads my text. And I said, NSA reads, wait, you're the head guy on the intelligence committee. You're their boss. You're providing oversight in our constitutional system. He's like, yeah, but you know, they're still spying at me.

Starting point is 02:12:05 First thing, second thing, Michael McCall, who is, you know, the leader of, I would say, the neocons in the house, kind of low-key neocons, but neocons, but neocons, I got new an argument with him once last year on the phone. He told somebody that I was a Russian agent or something. I was outraged, so I called him on the phone. And I used bad language, I was really mad. And he said, you know, I just got that, you know, that's what the intel briefers, tole, I was really mad.

Starting point is 02:12:39 And I said, that's what the Intel briefers told you? You believe your fucking Intel brief, like, how old are you, son? You know, I'm from D.C. My dad was in this world. Like, you don't, you're being manipulated by your Intel briefers. Right. Anyway, so Tucker, Tucker on leash is going to be a lot of fun, I think. Now, um, there are people who have been teeing off on this video that they're both controlled opposition.

Starting point is 02:13:10 What do you think about? It's entirely possible. Yeah. It's entirely. I judge people. You know, I judge people. You know, you can't judge anybody. Let's see how it plays out. Let's see what you do is you th, let's, let's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, is, th, th, is, is, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, the, the, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi. thi. they're thi. they're they're they're they're thi. they're thi. they're thi. thi. they're they're thi. Let's see what the things they say and do, how they affect the world.

Starting point is 02:13:25 You know what I'm saying? That's how I judge people. What you do is you when you go, see how they react when the best needs of the or the best desires of the masses and the desire. And here's a quick sneak peek of Conspiracy Social Club. Enjoy. In 1692, Haley put forth the idea of a hollow earth. He suggested the atmosphere separated multiple shells and that each shell had its own magnetic poles.

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