Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #681: Emergency Podcast- The Life And Death Of The Unabomber with Mark Steeves + UnWoke ASF with Craig Shoemaker

Starting point is 00:00:00 Timfoil Hattie. Oh, what the fuck are you guys even talking about? Global controls will have to be imposed, and a world governing body will be created to enforce them. Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home, boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Are you ready to get your mind done? Good morning, Swarm and welcome to another episode of Tinfall High Emergency episode, a double banger, nothing but bangers. We're doing two episodes today.

Starting point is 00:00:57 We have Booker and Podcaster and friend Mark Steve from my family thinks I'm crazy. He's coming on to talk Operation Avocado. Damn. And Ted Kaczynski, it's a very interesting deep dive into it, okay? And everything that led up. And it's very interesting, man. It's very interesting what happens to us as children affects us later on in life. And then we do a second part episode, which I'm very excited about, the love master, Craig Shoemaker, comes on and we discuss our new show that we're doing at the Passadena Ice House. It is the woke as unwoke as fuck show. It's almost sold out at the ice house.

Starting point is 00:01:44 So if you hear this, go right to the Ice House website. The links are below and grab a ticket while you can. And it's a wonderful conversation with Craig. It was supposed to be 15 minutes at Ghost 50. And like we get really deep into the Love Master and the things that happen to him as children, as a child. And it's a very, very deep, wonderful conversation about a guy that reached some amazing heights in comedy. And to hear what he went through, it's so interesting. And I hope you guys enjoy. So again, I go to Sam Tripoli.com. It has all my dates. I got to get some of my new dates. I'm going to be doing new dates. I'm going to be doing a lot of my own work on that. So I hope you guys enjoy that. And then, you know, just support me on Rockfin man. It's for $15 a month. You get everyone on Rockfin. to $1.00. their $15.00. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to. the to. to to to to to to to to to the to be the the the the the the to be. I. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. I. the. I. I. the. the. the. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be the the the to. I week from just me on Timfall Hat.

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Starting point is 00:03:46 We go deep home, boy. Eric, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of N. Okay, let's get into it. He's back by popular demand. Okay, the people have asked and they got him. And he's like, we gotta do an emergency podcast on a, uh, this, the people have asked and they got him and he's like we got to do an emergency podcast on a this the passing of a conspiracy legend. I don't know if that's a proper word or name, but we're gonna get into it because he is legendary within

Starting point is 00:04:20 the history of man versus machine versus the government. Please welcome from my family thinks I'm crazy. Mark Steve's. How like Mark, how are you? Wow, much better this second time. I'm glad there's a power outage. Why you didn't like that last intro? Oh, that was an omen from Mr. Kaczynski. Oh, snap.

Starting point is 00:04:44 Good techn Technology, right? You know, he shut down our first go at this. So here we are, round two, back at it, emergency episode, your second emergency episode. Yeah, I don't get used to these people. I mean, I do too much podcasting, but a couple things have come up that daddy thought, hey, we gotta go hard and paint. This one's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. And, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, tha, come up that daddy thought, hey, we gotta go hard in the paint. This one's well placed. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:06 Real quick, Mark, before we get started, please tell all of our listeners where they can find you. Word is your show is doing very well. Thank you. Yeah, we're doing really well. We just hit 2 million downloads total, which is cool for a show that only has 300 something episodes now. The 300th episodes about to come out and yeah you can find it at my family thinks some crazy.

Starting point is 00:05:35 to just search my family thinks some crazy wherever you listen to podcast YouTube Rockfin of course and yeah find me on all sorts of podcasts including Tin Foil Hat. You're everywhere all the time, never stopping, battling the forces of evil, Mark. Thank you for that. So Mark, you know, it's very interesting, Ted Kaczynski. As you know, I had a t-shirt that said the Unabomber was right and Etsy took it down because they're fascist, okay? But Ted Kaczynski is an

Starting point is 00:06:13 interesting and complicated legacy. Well Ted Kaczynski would have hated the idea of a t-shirt being sold online. So maybe that was just akin to what happened earlier with the little tech air, because he was totally against technology. And maybe we'll get into that today, because he has a very strange story. And yeah, I don't know. Let me ask you this, Sam, before we get started. Did you hear anything on the news about this? You know, what, what? What? You, you? You, you? You, you? You, you? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th. th? th? th. thi? th. th. th. th. th. th. A? to to to to to to to to to to, to to to th. A? th. A? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th. It? th. It? th. It? th. It? th. It would? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin? th. th. thin? th. th. th. thin? th. that? that? that? thin? to, th. to, thin? th. th ask you this, Sam, before we get started. Did you hear anything on the news about this?

Starting point is 00:06:49 You know, what have you learned about his passing so far? Um, I have not learned anything about the actual way he passed. I just heard that he passed, and that's all I've heard. So very murky, all I've seen as well is that it was a suicide, which at first made me think of Epstein for some reason, you know, considering he allegedly committed suicide in his prison style, albeit, you know, because since he's been suicide in his prison cell, albeit, you know, because since he's been in prison for a long time, so why would somebody want him dead now out of, you know, this many years after him being locked up, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:07:40 that's kind of the question that came to me. It is weird. I I mean the notion, so he was in the super super max where they got the worst the worst or what they wants to believe is the worst of the worst. El Chappo, the Boston bombing kid who we can get into what he really represents if you want to. Who else do they have in there? Oh, the shoe bomber is there as well. And then like a January 6th guy is there too. You're like, okay, which one of these are not like the other? Which one of these just doesn't belong?

Starting point is 00:08:24 So that, that's a super interesting thing. So it's like, so the, but the reason I bring the up they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're the they're they're the the they they they they they they they they they can't the. they can't they can't. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they can. they they can. I they they they they they they can. I they they can. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the that. the that. that. the that. that. the that. that. that. that. that. that. the. the. the. the. the. the. super interesting thing. So it's like, so the, but the reason I bring it up is because that place is meant to make it so you can't do really anything. Yeah, I imagine, you know, as a supermax prison, they don't allow any sort of interference whatsoever, right? So whoever was able to turn the cameras off and do whatever happened to Epstein in that short amount of time, you know, I don't know if that would fly at the Florence Supermax prison, good point. But either way, it's kind of interesting and it turns out that there is a connection through the Edge Foundation to Kaczynski and Epstein.

Starting point is 00:09:10 Maybe not a direct connection, but a very sort of tangential connection. And if you think about Epstein's connections to some of these investments he was making in the realms of genetics and other industries, pseudoscience industries and others. It's kind of interesting and Ted Kaczynski has at least when he was at Harvard and Stanford sort of similar connections through this nexus of cybernetics research, which, you know, at that time, Kaczynski's time, when he first started at Harvard, cybernetics was, you know, a new sort of thought being, you know, actualized.

Starting point is 00:10:03 And now we see the full potential of it, where it was never really about the computers themselves, or it was about the mind and mapping the mind and the metaphor of the computer or the analogy of the computer. So, Kaczynski, in a lot of ways, I think, saw maybe that coming down, uh, the pike. So Kaczynski in a lot of ways I think saw maybe that coming down the pike come coming down the pike so to speak and you know that being the future that we didn't as human beings we don't want to say we don't want it we obviously don't want it but a lot of people are sort of dazzled into it or, you know, put under this spell of

Starting point is 00:10:49 innovation and progress where a very intelligent guy like Kaczynski was seeing something a lot different, you know, seeing the same thing but a lot differently. I think, you know, as your t-shirt pointed out, I think we can all agree he your t-shirt pointed out, I think we can all agree he had some good points in his manifesto. But you were alive during the time period when the Unabomber stories were coming out. Yeah, I remember it very, very vividly. I remember people are terrorized and what's going on? And, um, well, there's a lot going on with Ted. And like, we can get into that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th he th. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he heat, heat heat heat, heat heat heat heat heat heat. He heat. He heat. heat. heat. He heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. He he th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th. He had th. He had th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the thin. th. He? And well there's a lot going on with Ted and like we can get we can get into that whole thing I mean a quick I forget who the guess was she was on the show and she's she wanted to do the main show and for some reason we had her booked and she said she was sick or

Starting point is 00:11:41 I remember exactly what the excuse was when she was bringing up that that Ted Kaczynski's mother did a podcast and she was talking about how her son had been you know when he was very young like a year less than a year he broke out in this hides hives from to head to toe. And they brought her to the hospital. They brought, his mother brought Ted to the hospital. And they said that he had to sit by himself, strapped down for seven days with nobody touching him. And body contact is very important to children at touching him.

Starting point is 00:12:30 And body contact is very important to children at that very early age. And she said he was never the same. He never looked her right in the eyes again. And I'm sure that within, uh, within, uh, if you probably tested Kaczynski, probably come up autistic. You know? Well, yeah, that aside, I mean, that may be part of why he was in the gifted program, which, you know, when Stephen Snyder was on the show recently, he mentioned all the strange connections with that program. And, uh, not to mention Timothy Leary and these sylcibin tests that he underwent, where they

Starting point is 00:13:11 were dosing him with syliphymon at a time when, you know, this was completely new to people, right? So Kaczynski, it's fair to say, after undergoing these psychedelic trials, had, you know, maybe some paranoid aspects to his personality that were more pronounced than before, right? You know, you're talking about a very intelligent guy, but apparently he's in a group of 20 or so people that were connected to Project Artichoke. So you know this is something that kind of raised a red flag for me considering you know these bombings that occurred. Some of the people some of the victims are also connected to

Starting point is 00:14:05 this same program. Hold on. What are you, what are you, what are you talking about? What is Project Arduchoke? All right, so I don't want to get anything incorrect here, so I'm just going to go and read directly from my sources here. But let's just read. All right, so as a sophomore, Kaczynski participated in a study described by author Alston Chase as a purposefully brutalizing psychological experiment, led by Harvard psychologist Henry Murray. So Henry Murray, OK, not to mention Harvard psychology,

Starting point is 00:14:48 had connections to the OSS, right? Subjects were told they would be debating personal philosophy with a fellow student and were asked to write essays detailing their personal beliefs and aspirations. Essays were turned over to an anonymous attorney who in later session would confront and belittle the subject making vehement sweeping and personally abusive attacks using the content of the essays as ammunition while electrodes monitored the subject's psychological reactions picture clockwork orange with the eyes. Yeah, of course, man that's crazy

Starting point is 00:15:26 that is so crazy it's better or worse these encounters were filmed in subjects expressions of anger and rage for later played back to them repeatedly the experiment lasted three years with someone verbally abusing and humiliating Kaczynski each week. Kaczynski spent 200 hours as a part of this study. Kaczynski's lawyers later attributed his hostility towards mind-controlled techniques to his participation in Murray's studies. Now remember during the trial that he underwent, he refused at every step of the way to see a psychiatrist. To consider what he underwent in these programs, it makes sense.

Starting point is 00:16:13 And the whole time, what is the media saying about Kaczynski? He's crazy, he's a nut, he's insane. We can't even entertain the thought of what he's written in these manifestos. It's so poorly written. I have the manifesto here. We're going to read from it. All right, let's do it. But anyways, so as I was reading here, it says, some sources have suggested that Murray's experiments were a part of MK Ultra, Project Artichoke,, the Central Intelligence

Starting point is 00:16:47 Agency's research into mind control. So this is speculative, of course. I don't know if there's hard evidence there might be. It may be out there. I hope the listeners follow up and do their own research as usual. But yeah, the Unabomber's Manifesto has been published by Farrell House Publishing Company, which publishes a bunch of stuff.

Starting point is 00:17:14 And one of the interesting sort of documentaries that people can go to learn more about this, if they're willing to read subtitles. We're gonna watch a quick clip from it. the one portion of it. The one portion of it, the one portion of it, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the one one one one one one one one one more about this if they're willing to read subtitles. We're going to watch a quick clip from it, the one portion of it that includes an English speaker, but it's titled The Net. And it's a German documentary all about Kaczynski and his basically involvement in this nexus of Ivy League criminals, psychedelic research, intelligence operatives. And you know, you have to wonder, into what aim was Kaczynski uses this sort of Patsy,

Starting point is 00:17:58 if he was used as a Patsy, I'm not dismissing the victims and the crimes committed. You know, if he did mail those bombs, that's a terrible thing. And that's not to be to be. That's not to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theylicecki, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, theiricicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. thea. thea. I. I. theaui. I. I. Iaui. Iaui. I'm thiiaui. Iaui. I'm they. Ia. I'm they. I'm they. I'm dismissing the victims and the crimes committed. You know, if he did mail those bombs, that's a terrible thing and that's not to be, you know, Yeah, exactly. But, you know, when you look at what was written, you have to wonder if something like bombs being sent in the mail could be, well, you know, pinned on somebody who doesn't commit those acts. I mean, it's, it's like, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you. It's like, you, you know, you know, I, it's a. It's a, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. It. the, you, you. the, you. It. It. the, you. It. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, I, I'm, I'm a. the, I, I'm a. the, I, I, I, the, it's a. the, it's a. the, it's a. the in the mail could be, well, you know, pinned on somebody who doesn't commit those acts. I mean, it's far more permissible, honestly. It seems more likely that someone would, you know, hoax that as opposed to like a mass shooting.

Starting point is 00:18:41 It seems a little more difficult to hoax. Again, that's a different topic, but still you understand where a connection might be with these sort of mental illness victims, these people like, supposedly Kaczynski, who have undergone some sort of experiments, trials, they've been abused, brutalized, psychologically, and then they're used as patsees in these agenda events basically, these events that I mean like you're basically talking about most of these school shootings that we've seen, right? Like all these school shooters are on medication, they're in these like very, very controversial youth programs, especially the kid who shot Parkland, a very controversial

Starting point is 00:19:39 youth program. People were like, why is he, they've looked back on that in the course, what did you see, what did you see, them gaslighting everybody who questioned why was he in these programs? They just gaslit them. Nothing controversial about that. You're a stupid conspiracy theorist. There's not no. Literally the title was no, his youth program had nothing to do with this. It's like crazy, right? Well, and it seems like Kaczynski is one of these,

Starting point is 00:20:16 I mean, tier one type assets who was like a ticking time bomb that eventually, you know, this manifested into him going off grid, which is something that he was always interested in allegedly, while, even when he was a student, he was interested in going out and camping and, you know, basically, bushcrafting, right? And it was just something that now is considered like going off the grid which at his time was a little bit more of a fringe idea now it's like a trendy thing you see on Instagram but uh... yeah cuz he was kind of vilified as this off-the-grider wild prepper you know an enemy of technological society.

Starting point is 00:21:06 Meanwhile, he was somebody who was at basically the highest echelon of Western society, right? Harvard, you know, how many people go to Harvard? You have to be either really brilliant or well-connected from a certain family. So, but think about this. But thethat case is really just a totally off base. Think about this, right? If we believe in the law of duality, right? And we know for a fact that they are willing to position people into places where most of society would see them as good, right? Like these cultural leaders that have led society in wouldn't they do the opposite of that?

Starting point is 00:22:06 And position people in negative places that do negative things that society does alike, and that allows, that allows for the powers that be to take more power, take more, more, you know, control. Absolutely. Yeah, and you know, he is definitely someone who was rubbing shoulders with, who would become, you know, movers and shakers, the technocrats, these people who clearly he was opposed against. And yeah, his manifesto, right, as it's called in the media, it was published eventually, I think a couple times, but the latest and most interesting in my opinion is published by Farrell House, it's titled Technological Slavery,

Starting point is 00:23:04 The Collected Writings of Theodore Kaczynski, I have the PDF in front of me. And in the introduction, he says, the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life expectancy of those of us who live in advance countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread

Starting point is 00:23:33 psychological sufferings in the third world to physical suffering as well, and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worps in the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world. It will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological sufferings and it may lead to increase physical sufferings even in advance country. So, you know, a lot of people might take umbrage with that. They might disagree and say, oh, well,

Starting point is 00:24:10 the luxuries of modern life, look at how great things are now. Oh, we have modern medicine and that. Yes. For one, you know, I think people take for granted some of those things for sure, but the same flip of the coin. You know, outside of, you know, plumbing, I think there's still a lot of things that are not that advanced as far as infrastructure goes. I mean, I don't know if you saw the giant gaping hole in I-95 in Philadelphia, but yeah,

Starting point is 00:24:44 I wonder how long that'll take to get repaired. Yeah, I totally agree with you, Mark. Today we need to discuss a pressing issue. The FDA's attempt to control powerful health supplement. NMN. The controversy surrounding NMN's highlights how certain forces seek to manipulate the market and limit consumer access to beneficial products. And with the sale of NMN possibly coming to an abrupt halt any time now, it's crucial to act quickly. The reality is the centralized control over health products can lead to a lack of choice

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Starting point is 00:27:41 And, you know, about all the crazy you know hippie the rich kids are going to ruin everything and you know they're destructive and he's totally right about that. Think about what happened after 1995 I mean you know they needed a guy like him to be silent as they rolled out the phones, as they rolled out the public internet, as they rolled out social media, as they rolled out all these apps that are just taking over every single part of the economy in a lot of ways, I mean, from, you know, taxi services and on and on and on. But when it comes to, the, you know, Unabomber. And the, the the the the their their their their their their their their their, you. And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the, you know, you know, you know, you the, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you the, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you and on and on and on. But when it comes to the, you know, Unabomber and this whole, as we are kind of suggesting

Starting point is 00:28:32 maybe this Patsy situation where a guy like him could be made to do something, you know, maybe like a Manchurian candidate situation where he's sort of activated, and it seems like he was kind of taking every step to be as far away from everybody as possible. And I wonder maybe they thought this guy knows too much to have him around as we implement things like the DARPA internet, which, you know, when he was in Harvard, it was already, you know, being played around with.

Starting point is 00:29:06 They had it, right? The internet's almost 100 years old now. So it's just... But when I heard what you said there, when you read about what we've done to other countries, that is basically the argument that socialists make against capitalism and for basically what they believe is pure or true communism, right? Like that's what they're saying. They're saying capitalism is destructive. Well, and here's the other problem with why the Unabomber maybe needed to be, you know, turned into this Unabomber, because exactly your point, you know, people have been conditioned to

Starting point is 00:29:50 go into this gallian dialect of either Marxism or what Nazism is the other side of it, right? You know, and it's either fascism or communism, right? So, you know, you can't have techno, you know, anarcho, you know, technology, this kind of, I forget the, his sort of ideology, what it would be called. I guess it would be, you know, anarcho something, but either way, yeah, I agree with you that what he is saying as a Harvard graduate definitely rings true with a lot of the things that the intelligentsia today, you know, is- But that's true though, like that aspect of their argument, which is, and I am a capitalist,

Starting point is 00:30:44 okay, but they are right about that, like what we're doing to the rest of the world for capitalism to survive right like they're talking about They're talking about like the sweatshops in China the lithium mines of Africa and the way these people have to live and the way our giant corporations treat these people. So he's totally right about that as well. And but the point is, is like, we have also been trained to believe that everything that the crazy blue hair left people say is automatically ridiculous mumbo-jumbo from rich kids who've never experienced anything in life, right?

Starting point is 00:31:33 When in reality, that part of their argument does have weight. And we're sold on the idea that if we didn't have slave labor or we didn't have sweatshops, that our goods would cost a gazillion dollars, right? But there was a time when free trade didn't exist and we made shit here and it wasn't a bazillion dollars. And the reason everything worked out was because there was a market cap for what people were willing to pay. And the problem was, and not the problem everything worked out was because there was a market cap for what people were willing to pay. And the problem was, and not the problem, I guess, for the capitalists were, that they had a pay a living wage and everybody had enough money to buy enough stuff. Well, yeah, and people had fricking jobs when it wasn't all overseas, right? So, yeah, I agree with you. I think that's, yeah, that's aside from the Kaczynski point, but definitely.

Starting point is 00:32:29 But is there long lines of what he's saying? Well, and I think that's one of the problems with the left's agenda right now is that they used, you know, enticing, you know, maybe even critical, you know, events to their advantage. And honestly, you know, when their solutions just lead to bigger government or more corporate oversight, then they just end up being hypocrites at the end of the day, which is, you know, unfortunately more often than not what happens, the matter if it's red or blue, it just which is, you know, unfortunately more often than not what happens, the matter if it's red or blue, it just leads to, you know, corporate, you know, monopolies and having more power than they should and also government having more power than they should.

Starting point is 00:33:16 So, no, I agree with you, dude. I think the Unabomber is really anachronistic to that in essence, right? His messages is pro-environment, but also anti-corporate, anti-government, anti-reli, really, technology in every sense of the word, which I have some disagreements with. I mean, you know, the plow share, you know, the plow is technology that we all definitely benefit from, right? Food, we need axes.

Starting point is 00:33:51 That's a tool we all benefit from, right? I mean, we could sit here and list dozens of tools that we all benefit from. Technology is useful, but I think the Unabomber's point is that we're allowing society to unfold at a rate that's unsustainable possibly and also, you know, very harmful in the long run to the environment, which, you know, maybe that's true. I think Kaczynski with his education had the resources available that's true. I think Kaczynski, with his education, had the resources available to him to discern that. You know, he wasn't just a expert in making poms.

Starting point is 00:34:35 He was an expert in a dozen different things. So I don't even know how much he knew about bombs. That might even be something that, you know, again, like this sort of supposition that he was a Patsy, maybe this is the resources the resources thi..... thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the resources, thi, the resources, the resources, thi, the resources the resources, thi, thi, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, the resources, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that this, which this, which this, this, this, this, thi, that might even be something that, you know, again, like this sort of supposition that he was a Patsy, maybe this is something that was implanted on him or, you know, he was coerced this whole thing with a couple of the far right so-called domestic terrorists where they, what, I forget if it was Ruby Ridge, where the guy was kind of coerced into, you know, sawing off a shotgun for a guy and end up being an FBI informant. So, yeah, you're totally right. Examples of people within certain ideologies, extreme or otherwise, being basically turned,

Starting point is 00:35:24 and taken in, you know, maybe even against their will, you know, giving information that's then used against them, right? So, and Kaczynski, he was on the run for a while, too, which is another aspect, which I was way too young for that when it occurred, but you know, when he was on the run, it seemed like they knew or had an idea of who he was, you know, how quickly, do you remember how quickly it was between the time that they identified it was Ted Kaczynski and him being caught? No, do you know? No, I'm going to look it up right now, but it seems like he was on the lamb for a while and I remember one part of his story being that

Starting point is 00:36:15 when he was caught, they took his house in Montana, this shack that he had and they airlifted it somewhere to be forensically analyzed. That seems crazy doesn't it? That seems like overkill. Yeah well yeah I wonder you know what was in there that they needed to just let airlift the whole thing, you know? Right. And again we have connections to the intelligence going all the way back. If people find out that he was in CIA programs, that could have blowback, even though,

Starting point is 00:36:54 even though I guess people are getting upset about now when we find out all these people are basically intelligence operations. But again, this goes back to that episode we did with Reclus that you would reference earlier, it's like, it's like, everything. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it, it, it, it, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's like, it. It's like, it. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. the. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the, the. the. the. the, this goes back to that episode we did with recluse that you would reference earlier. It's like everything is an intelligence operation. Everything. It's all intelligence operation. And it's crazy. Now, according to Wikipedia to take it for what it's worth,

Starting point is 00:37:24 the bombings took place between 1978 and 1995. So that's quite a long time and UNA stands for universities and airports, right? So it was Northwestern University, an American Airlines flight, the University of Utah Vanderbilt University of California Berkeley, which was connections to skull and bones. The Boeing Company in Auburn, Washington University of Michigan which also has connections to skull and bones, Sacramento, a police in Salt Lake City, a geneticist whose name is Charles Epstein, of course. David Gillerinter, a computer science professor at Yale University, was also a victim of one of these bombs.

Starting point is 00:38:19 So yeah, this is, uh, so that's so crazy. So you're telling me that there are connections between head and the people he he bombed? Yeah, so according to this, and I should play the clip now, that you bring that up, um, according to this documentary that I heard about on a podcast called, warm mode, this, and I'm, this, this, this, this, thrown. this. this, this, this, this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this, this. this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. this. this is, this, this, this, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this, this, this, the, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is, this, this, this, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. that you bring that up. According to this documentary that I heard about on a podcast called War Mode, shout out to War Mode. Oh, you listen to War Mode, huh? I try to get those guys on the show. They're like, we're not ready yet.

Starting point is 00:38:58 I'm like, let's go. Tell the audience, they're the best that getting people to change their minds. Let them know. I do open door to War Mode. People are like, get War Mode. I'm like, I'm offering it to them, bro. War Mode brings it up, brought this up, and I was listening. I went and watched some of this and I thought, we gotta talk about it this is very interesting

Starting point is 00:39:25 stuff but yeah if they want to come on I mean they got the door boys but here let me share my screen and show this is German hopefully the subtitles come up you guys will see the subtitles but the the gentleman that's connected to Epstein is oh you got to enable, you did it in the meeting we were in before but this is a new... Oh come on you mother of them. Okay all the participants okay all participants bring up. So it's called the net the Unabomber. Okay, okay all participants all participants All right. So it's called the net the unibomer

Starting point is 00:40:10 LSD As I was I've read all the books and all right so this is John Brockton and he is connected to this group called The Edge. They're sort of like a science publishing outlet and have connections to Epstein and yeah, Kazinski bombed this guy and he actually happened to be somebody that he was connected to through Harvard. So that was, that's where the connection was that you asked about earlier. But let's play it from the beginning here. Now you're a neural net or now you're an information with my nose. Can you hear the audio? Yes. Okay, hold on let me just make sure I go to the beginning.

Starting point is 00:40:57 Uh, Shch. No, what you're looking at. And all these people were experimenting with media. They were dealing with technological stuff. You know, nobody was talking about cybernetics at the time, but they were all reading McLuhan. Roshen, they said, ''Cuhan, suggests I read it, then Cage handed me a copy of cybernetics by Noble Wiener and said, this is something for you. Because of, I was extremely interested in the-

Starting point is 00:41:35 He looks like Colonel Sanders. There's a feedback and non-linearity. I think that's Marshall McLuhan. Okay. Call from A.K. Solomon, who was head of biophysics at Harvard. And he had read about the Expanded Cinema Festival, said, you know, we have all these scientists up here at Harvard and MIT. So listen to this, when the interviewer brings up, uh, Kaczynski, see how he reacts. Take an hour a day, and I thought it would be a nice way to pick up some money while I wrote

Starting point is 00:42:12 books and I found out very quickly that it was sitting on an oil well and I couldn't control. And that was 30 years ago. In 1993, someone attacked your network. We talked about your network, and David Glead, one of your fabulous writers, received a letter bomb from the UNImbom. Why do you think he was atarget? Well I know it was a target. This madman, criminal madman, would read the New York Times and a lot of the people he picked as targets were people that John Markov had profiled. So Galanter was the subject of one of the biggest profiles ever in the Times in 1991,

Starting point is 00:43:06 and I'm sure that had something to do with it. Wow! But he studied in Harvard and he was a mathematician. Yeah, and he's a sick criminal. I wouldn't have a serious discussion about this guy. You know, he doesn't rise to the level. I think he's a guy that wrote this manifesto that he... He's starting to get ticks, right?

Starting point is 00:43:33 Little like ticks? Exactly. It's so flawed. So in order to get a publish to kill people. End of story. People can have arguments about environment and science and but you don't need to kill people to make a point and I wouldn't dignify him by discussing me further. Let's change the subject. Very weird. Definitely a weird reaction.

Starting point is 00:44:01 I mean all be it his friend was you know almost killed by a bomb so I mean, albeit his friend was, you know, almost killed by a bomb. So, I mean, if your friend was almost killed by a bomb, you'd probably be pretty pissed off of the guy who allegedly did it, right? But it did seem a little weird his reaction to the whole questioning and then just kind of being dismissive about it. And, you know, I haven't seen his other interviews. I don't know how often he has those ticks, but it does seem like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their, their their their their their their their th. So, th. So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, to thi. So, to to to to to to to thi. So, to. So, to. So, to. If, to. If, to. If, to. to. to. to. thi. thi. their, you know, I haven't seen his other interviews. I don't know how often he has those ticks, but it does seem like something that you would do. But I didn't notice someone before he's sorry. That's why I played a little bit of the other parts of the interview,

Starting point is 00:44:37 just so you could see how I was talking, and then when he gets on that subject, he becomes very nervous. And I just thought that was interesting because, again, you have this rollout towards transhumanism that works pretty much in the midst of now, and who would be an opponent of that other than a Harvard professor, like Kaczynski, who goes off into the woods and does the off-grid thing, right? I mean, if they just, you know, he fell under a blind eye and was just left off to write as many books as he wanted, I mean, he could have been a revolutionary force in the world as far as, you know, this intelligence to you goes, and this group of 20 or so that he was connected to, they call in this documentary the Net, they call them

Starting point is 00:45:27 the Digirati, which I have an article up about the Digerati, which I could read here. They're an elite. They are the elite of digitalization, social media, content, marketing, computer industry, and online communities. The word is a portman to derive from digital and illiteratity, reminiscent of the earlier pointage glitterality. So I never heard that. That's great you snagged out. Shout out War Mode for finding that video. Yeah, great podcast. If people haven't listened to that show, War Mode is very good.

Starting point is 00:46:03 Check it out. Well, it's just kind of crazy that that show, War Mode, it's very good. Check it out. Well, it's just kind of crazy that like now we see patterns where there were none before, right? And what that represents. And it's like, it's just like, man, it's like I say, every time, everything is an intelligence operation. Everything, there is connections,. There is order in all chaos. You just have to wait long enough for it all to settle and play out and be shown to you.

Starting point is 00:46:33 And I really do believe that. I really do believe that. We are experiencing this revealing more more of the fact that there is a small predator class that is inflicting grape both physical, financial, and also a third spiritual trauma and pain to humanity. And it's just every time you do another podcast, you start to find another piece of this chaos. And we have to ask ourselves, what do these intelligence agencies really represent? What do they really represent? What are they really doing? What is they really represent?

Starting point is 00:47:26 What are they really doing? What is their purpose? Well, recently as I've been researching skull and bones up here in New Haven, Connecticut, I've been, you know, seeing more and more connections to the Illuminati. And I know a lot of people hear that term and they shrug and they say, oh, Illuminati, that's just, you know, catch all, that doesn't mean anything, but seriously, I think, you know, 1776, the Illuminati, you know, they essentially were the, you know, engine behind these revolutions that we love so much, right?

Starting point is 00:48:05 And skull and bones is just another iteration of this Illuminati force that manifested itself in that time period and extended its, you know, grim arm into the future up until today, through commerce, through the military, through science. I mean, Yale University, I know I talked about this. Last time I was on tinfoil hat, but I don't know if I mentioned how oil, essentially, you know, the lifeblood of the industrial revolution, the lifeblood of World War I, World War II, wouldn't be possible without gasoline. It was basically created at Yale.

Starting point is 00:48:49 For the first time ever, rock oil was distilled into petroleum by Benjamin Silliman, one of the legendary professors at Yale University, and his, I believe, his son or one of his nephews was a member of one of the secret societies at Yale and the whole clan over there was connected to these secret societies. And that's why they've been so, you know, effective at what they accomplished. You know, they literally created an incredible change in alchemy, you know, using this oil to make incredible wealth for themselves and completely change the world in so many ways. I mean, it only began with things like oil and steel, right? I mean, now it's, like we said,

Starting point is 00:49:43 apps and now the metaverse with the mind control matrix Getting closer and closer to you know your Fleshy gooey parts is that's what they really want you know at the end of the day. They just want to take your soul out of your body and Replace it with something else. That's what I've been hearing more and more from really, you know, smarter people than I. People are doing the research writing books. I just had a great guy on my podcast, Jason Horsley, who he thinks that, yeah, that's exactly what it's happening, kind of like the invasion of the body snatchers, where

Starting point is 00:50:20 these non-coporial beings are using AI to essentially manifest themselves and then maybe create some sort of imperative in us as biological organisms to give over our biological sovereignty and allow them to transhumanize us into the cyborg, some sort of host to a non-corporeal consciousness, which you know, I'm sure I haven't listened to the conversation with Ian yet, but I'm sure he got into some of that with the whole Luciferian, Milochian stuff. We didn't even get to the, we only got like two points in into like almost an hour and a half show. It was like really breaking that down, which is a dangerous conversation., which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is a dangerous, which is a dangerous, which, which, which, which, which is, which, which is, which, which, which, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, you, you, I, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, I, I, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the we only got like two points in into like almost an hour and a half show It was like really breaking that down which is a dangerous conversation to have because I just get nervous that some people don't understand the purpose of

Starting point is 00:51:16 Digging deep in a lot of shit, you know, my fan the listeners of the show this one are very savvy I just always want them to know that I have like I'm very conscious of their beliefs and their beliefs and. their??????? their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi, thi, are very savvy. I just always want them to know that I have like, I'm very conscious of their beliefs. And like for me, it's just like, I just think you should question all organized religion. Absolutely. Well, at the end of the day, all of these, you know, evils that we discuss, what are they trying to get us away from, believing in a creator? I mean, that's something that I think is universal and connects with people at the heart level. When you talk about the creator and you look around in nature and you see how everything is reflected within one another and the way our life cycle is reflected in all of these other living beings that have totally unique lives. I mean, they're, the only way the only way. T, and th, and the, and the, and the, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, thi, and connects, their, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, and connects, the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the way our life cycle is reflected in all of these other living beings that have totally unique lives.

Starting point is 00:52:08 I mean, the only way you can explain the beauty of what's around us is by a creator. And you know, so for all the people who, you know, might hear this like, you know, demon talk and all this crazy stuff and get a little like shooken up like have faith and know that your courage to listen to this stuff and still reserve that faith is so powerful and you know all the more reason, you know to anchor your your prayer and your faith in these topics to raise the vibration and and no, I agree with that. I just understand that religion is extremelyics to raise the vibration and raise... I agree with that. I just understand that religion is extremely personal to people and when you tell them that maybe the specific view they have been given might not be as authentic as we would hope that there have been powers that be because, you know,

Starting point is 00:53:04 it's the, it's the old discussion, which is the heart of Tim Fall Hat, which is conspiracy always leads to spirituality, and you start asking what else are they lying to us about, and then it always becomes like your connection with God. And if something's so super powerful, you, you know, the notion that the elites wouldn't try to manipulate that to me is like kind of crazy to believe that. Absolutely. Well, then that's the whole reason to look at religion as exoteric and esoteric.

Starting point is 00:53:41 You have that two side of the sort, you know, you have people who hear this stuff and maybe they just haven't gone deep enough. I think at the core of every religion they're saying essentially the same thing in different ways, you know, people who get hung up on arguing this is and that, or just not open-minded enough to see that God created us all in different ways to come to come to come to come to.. the the the the the the the the deep the deep the the deep the deep the the deep the deep the deep the deep the deep the deep deep the deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep in deep deep deep in deep deep in deep deep deep deep in deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep the deep the deep deep deep deep deep in deep the deep the deep th deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep th deep deep deep deep thi in deep deep deep deep thi in deep deep th deep th deep th deep th deep th deep th. th. th. th. th th th in deep th in deep the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. So thi. So thi. So thi. So thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiia. So theirs. So theirs. So theirs. So to see that God created us all in different ways to come to these truths in different ways. What was the name of that operation? Operation what? Ardichoke.

Starting point is 00:54:15 It was one of the first M.K. Ultra operations. It was one where the first M.K. Ultra operations, but this was one where I believe this was one where they were administering acid on people who had no idea giving mushrooms to students who, you know, were not aware of what they were taking. One of the like famous, I don't know if this is a tall tale myth, legend type thing, but you know, they were dose these Johns who were, you know, going to visit the operation. Midnight Climax. Yeah, okay. See, I remember that episode of Tinfall Hat. So there were, there were more detailed names than just Artichoke. I don't know if Artichoke was more like an umbrella with other projects underneath it, but yeah, Kaczynski was allegedly involved in this, according to what I read earlier, but

Starting point is 00:55:12 yeah, people should check out this book. Did anybody else in that, in that group to go on to do anything else? Well, I haven't watched the entire documentary, The Net, is the name of that? I'm going to send you the link. People can watch it for free on Internet archive. All they have to do is type in the Net documentary. If you have Duck Duck Go, it's the first thing that comes up. It's the full title is the net, the Unabommer, LSDSDslustslustslumstslumst, LSDslum-List, L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. the internet. the internet. the internet. the internet. the internet. the internet. the internet. the internet. the it's the first thing that comes up. It's the full title is The Net, the Unabomber, LSD, and the Internet. It's made by Lutz-Dombeck. That's so crazy, dude.

Starting point is 00:55:54 And then the stuff about the New York Times, it's like, oh my God. And you go, you know, okay, so let's just say we're not the, the conspiracy savvy group that we are that we are that we are that we are that we are.. that we are.. that we are. that we are. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the. the. the, we are the, we are. the the the. the the the the, that, that, that, that. that. that. that. that. that. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tuc. tuc. tuc. tuck. tuc. tuck. tuc. that. that. that. that. that. the that we're not the conspiracy savvy group that we are. We go, well, wouldn't he talk about this and interviews that he didn't do it and all that stuff? He never did that as far as I know, but they could also have limited what the, what the, what the interviewer was allowed to show or no I don't know if I'm even at the point of questioning whether he did it or not I wonder if it's more or less whether he was still Ted Kaczynski when he was doing that like maybe those things could have been you know set up other people could have actually mailed the bombings with his knowledge that he was going that. Like maybe those things could have been you know set up if other people could have actually mailed the bombings with his knowledge that he was going to take credit for it because he knew he was taking part in

Starting point is 00:56:54 some operation that he had been activated, right? Like this sort of M-Kin-Ching at Manchurian Canada idea where somebody's sort of implanted with a pattern or plan and then it's in their subconscious. And this could be part of why he was so paranoid, you know, because he knew something had gone on, this sort of anxiety of something impending, this like fate in his subconscious that he couldn't actually access in his conscious mind and make sense of and then all the sudden he's in the woods making bombs and it's like you know where's the line between somebody's insanity and their sanity and also considering what he had undergone with

Starting point is 00:57:41 this Murray character you know being you know for three years he went undergone with this Murray character, you know, being, you know, for three years. He went under an experiment that lasted three years where every day somebody would like scream at him. I mean, to some people who might have grown up in like abusive households, that's like similar to what they undergo, right? I mean, having an abusive parent or spouse or whatever you may have, you know, being brutalized, this must have had a psychological damage, psychologically damaging effect on Mr. Kaczynski, right? So Dr. Kaczynski, I don't know what his degree was, but it's kind of interesting that he, you know, maybe more details will come

Starting point is 00:58:27 out about his suicide. I don't know how someone commits suicide in a Supermax prison. That's a great point. Maybe it was his time to go, you know, maybe they're unveiling something in the next so many years that, you know, having him around for whatever reason wouldn't benefit their agenda. I think it's interesting. The thing I wanted to bring up is that, you know, you had somebody like Charles Manson who wasn't there even at the murders. There's a ton of evidence that the people who they say did it weren't even there, and then it was this other guy who openly talked about it and but yeah he goes to prison he never talks about how he never did because he doesn't believe in snitching and any of that stuff

Starting point is 00:59:13 and I wonder if that is there's any of that in Ted Kaczynski's world like you don't you don't you don't talk to the you don't talk to the the car or whatever it is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their is the the the the the their their their their their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is. their is. their is. their is. their is. their is. I I I I I I I. their is. their is. their is. their is. their. their. their. their. their. their is. their is. their is. their is. their's. their's. their is. itch you don't talk to the you don't talk to the whatever it is they never actually said it didn't go down the way they wanted it to the way they said it was. That was an aspect of his trials he refused to see any psychiatrist. I mentioned that earlier but yeah it definitely seems like he was are at that point in time well aware of the danger of seeing a federally appointed psychiatrist Especially when the media is trying to make you out to be this insane criminal madman, which, you know, again, maybe he was, but I wonder how much of that was his own making, right?

Starting point is 01:00:06 You know, maybe he wrote this book about technological, you know, advancements going awry and his peers were like, hey man, like we're about to make billions of dollars off of all these systems technologies, and you're telling us that they're evil, and you're actually making some really good points. Yeah, or you're right about what's going to do to do everybody this this this this this this this this this.... this this this this this this this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this, this, this, this, this. this. this. this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this book this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi us that they're evil, and you're actually making some really good points. Yeah, or you're right about what's gonna do to everybody? And that's what they're banking on, essentially, because these Bay to Cuck fucking Ivy League motherfuckers are over there and their ivory towers,

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Starting point is 01:01:23 I mean, do the layers of Cyops on Cyops on Cyops and Cyops is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Well they need people they need people at that level to not look in this like that's really what these schools are about is about educating people to a certain degree right they are they know just this, because if you know anything more, that's dangerous, right? I think Kaczynski's one of these examples of somebody who knew too much. And maybe that pushed him right at the front of the line for these experiments.

Starting point is 01:02:00 Like, okay, put Ted in there. He's a, you know, a do-gooder. He wants to change the world, make the world a better place. We can't have guys like him, you know, getting what he wants. You know, this is a Harvard, this is Yale. We, you know, we make money off of opiom smuggling. We make money off of, you know, enslaveing people in third world countries to make these rubber. Yeah, yeah, man. Born from corruption and just, they just do the bidding of the establishment.

Starting point is 01:02:36 I hate to say it, but the Unabom was right. Sam, I think you should, if that shirt's not available, you should put it out. We're trying to figure it out as we speak how to get it out to the people so they can buy it put the link in the episode description for sure we're working on it brother we're working on it we want so one more time excuse me one more time mark tell them where they can find you my family think some crazy is the podcast about to put out the the the the the the the the the the the the 300 the the 300 the the the 300 the the the the the the 300 the the 300 the the 300 the th th th th th to to to to to to to th. th. th. the the the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. time Mark, tell them where they can find you. My family thinks I'm crazy is the podcast about to put out the 300 episode. Look at you, big 3-0. Going out of a crazy pace, I took a few days off, we only put two episodes out. When I normally put out four. Four episodes a week? Well four I usually put

Starting point is 01:03:27 two out a week and I only put out one per week in the beginning of June. So I took the little break but now I'm back at it to a week again so tune in. We've got some great guests coming on soon and this episode will be on my Patreon with a bunch of other bonus episodes to sign up there and I'm sure it'll be on the free feed soon enough. Yeah it's uh you this has been another emergency episode thank you for tuning in. Please hang on and listen to this I'm about to do an interview with the Love Master Craig Shoemaker. We're discussing our show here in Pasadena at the world famous Ice House

Starting point is 01:04:09 So enjoy that episode That interview excuse me and thank you so much for Mark for coming on. I look forward to our next discussion. So yeah, enjoy this episode. this interview this interview. this interview. this interview. thrown. to the te? that. this gentleman on a big fan. This th. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Schumacher. All right, let's get into it. Second part of this episode, very excited to have this gentleman on, a big fan of his for a very long time and very honored that I would get to share to stay with him this Saturday night at the Ice House in Pasadena for the Unwoke as fuck show with Kay Quigley myself and the man the myth the legend Ray here the Love Master Craig Shoemaker how are you buddy? I'm doing great man I I I'm

Starting point is 01:04:50 really digging this unwoke as fuck shit well I think it's excited a long time I you know I was a big lefty before I don't know if you knew that we don't really know one another until recently but I I left the left man. I'm just it's I could I got awakened. So that's I get it. I mean like the last time I voted for a president of the two parties was for Obama his first term and then I just watched that going, okay, this was just a whole giant con. So, and then, you know, this whole thing. I think a lot of people with, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. th. th. th. I, I, I was just a whole giant con. So, and then, you know, this whole thing, I think a lot of people with, you know, with, let's just say common sense, saw it was going on with the lockdowns and all that stuff and, you know, really woke up. I know there's some other people in our community of comedians in Los Angeles that have done the same thing as you have. And I love it, dude. So, it's really. It's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, it's really really really, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thin, th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that Angeles that have done the same thing as you have and I love it dude so it's really great and I'm glad you're putting on the show tell us about the show real quick and what your what your hopes are with this type of show. Well what happened for me is the whole unwoke for me is I can't stand the

Starting point is 01:06:03 arrogance that's taking place. In another words, like if I'm woke that means you're not. You know that that is the whole concept of I'm going to deem myself woke and I will decide for you what causes you will follow and if you do not follow these causes you are an ist or a fob, whatever, fill in the blank. And I'm going to, this reason I left the left is like there's such intolerance. Is you're going to command me and tell me exactly what the causes are. I thought it was something the other day, Sam. You know what I've never seen from the woke is a cause that probably should be out there, but trending is Native Americans.

Starting point is 01:06:48 You never hear a word about it. So you don't have the, you know, the BLM equivalent of that, the Me Too equivalent of that? There's nothing. So does that mean, so if you're claiming you're woke, do you have anything about the... You're totally right about that? Well, you know, it's so that's, that's why why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why that's why I's why I's why I's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, ally right about that. One hundred percent. You know, it's so that's that's why I say you are so full of it and so arrogant. And they have this whole like belief in that if they're following a trend, then therefore they are the smarter, they're the elite. And I just watched that, Craig.

Starting point is 01:07:22 I watched me. It was a movie the other day. And this is what this is happens happens happens happens the smart people who deem so smart and educated become followers and stupid and that's exactly what's happened. Well, we talked a lot about that on the show that like over this time through my journey from, you know, you know, I will, you know, the show Tim Fall Hat that you're on right now when I started it and where I am th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. This, th. This, th. This, th. It, th. It, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. It's, I theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. It's, th. It's, th, you know, this show, Tim Foll hat that you're on right now when I started it, and where I am today is this kind of, I've learned so much about the world and how it operates. And one thing I've learned is that there's a real big difference between intelligence and smarts. Intelligent people can write the greatest script you've ever seen in your life, like eloquent, could win you an Oscar when that meant something. But they couldn't tell you how the world works on a street level in any way, like person to person.

Starting point is 01:08:12 They're really great of following orders, they're really great of understanding the system and what the people run the system. Why? And they could totally play to that because their whole life,'s what they've done since elementary school. We got we talk about it recently on the show you know the Dean's list the principals list all that is like a reward for people who follow the rules. So my biggest thing against political correctness and it's why I rallied against it very early for a very long time was the hypocrisy of the rules that there was no set rules for everybody and it was this weird kind of woke rules that made white women comfortable I felt and there there was all these kind like I have a joke that's how I'm one of my specials that I did out of the Viper

Starting point is 01:08:59 Room which the the oppression math that crowds would do they they would calculate the amount of oppression you've been through and based on that is what they're allowed to do to to laugh at and you're allowed to talk about. How'd you like to look like me? I mean, I'm a non-practicing white male. Yeah. Right. So right away, if I say something, the label they affix, if I say something, you didn't

Starting point is 01:09:27 suffer, you know, you're the oppressor. Yeah. So that's, here's the irony is you are now being prejudiced. You're prejudiced against, and I have to, this why I like to do a longer set by the way, because they get to know, oh, this guy has been through a lot of pain, right? But you're not, you're not like the pain police. It's like, it's just because this guy who's presenting himself, you think I had this wonderful life. No, I was my dad left when I was born, by a serial pedophile. I try to hang myself. I died literally of an overdose. I mean, I'm jail, everything. So.

Starting point is 01:10:10 That's like, you know, it's like so funny because I never knew that about you. And again, we've hung out in small parts here and there. And it's very interesting because this reminds me of a story that I played this bar in Chicago. And, you know, every time I, I went the white. I the white. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, the thi. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th............... I'm, t. I'm, the the the the the the the the the the the I played this bar in Chicago. And every time I went on stage, there would be a white woman in the crowd, just having this like moment of meltdown. And one time I felt I could tell she was just so upset. And she was talking to the manager. And I'm like, okay, I have to see what's going on. I go, is everything OK? And she's just like, you just don't understand.

Starting point is 01:10:46 You go, you need to learn how to punch up. And I go to where you don't know where I'm punching from. You have no clue where I'm punching from. You are committing racism right now. And I know that the powers that be that push this woke stuff on you at, in the universities, in the universities, in the universities, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and the universities, and in the universities, and the universities, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the, the, the universities told you that you can't be racist against white people because that's a convenient rule that they put in to let you feel free to hate on. That's like kind of get out jail free card for hate that you that seems to be really prevalent in these in these universities. But the truth of the matter is is like I have grown up. You know I'm in I was born

Starting point is 01:11:25 in 70s, 80s kid, 90s college, and I have had diversity shoved down my throat. Now, I love diversity. I love traveling the country. I love, I think our diversity is our strength, but it's been weaponized against us. So what people have done is like, what they've done is told us we must, at gunpoint, recognize diversity. But the minute people like you and me discuss what we've seen with this diversity, suddenly now we're bigots for seeing color, when all they've done is at gunpoint

Starting point is 01:12:02 tell us to see color. So that's where I don't, that's why I push back really hard on it. And it. And, th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. th. th. th. th. they've, th. th. they've, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. theeee. th. theee. they's, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, tell us the C color. So that's where I don't, that's why I push back really hard on it. And I just think, Craig, it takes people like you, like me. I know Binders doing a lot of this too, and you know, there's a lot of guys out of the Legion of Skanks in New York that are very much pushing publicly incorrect stuff. And it's just like you just have they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin thi thi thi thi's just thi's thi's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th thi thi thi thi thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thi thi thin thi thi thi, I have a couple people that stand there and take the fire so that people go, okay, this isn't gonna cost me my life and my career if I just make an instant observation.

Starting point is 01:12:35 That's what my belief is. Even be coming up with this title on woke AF, right? Which is now going to be a tour. You and I are the first and catered to do to do to do to doour. You and I are the first and cater to the first to do this, by the way. I don't know if you do this, but let's go. I signed a deal and I have a list, I've talked to you about this before and I have a list of people that are, and by the way, the list is ever growing every second because it's now going to be a minority to be woke up. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I I I I's, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I th. th. thin, I'm, I'm, I'm thin, I's, I'm thi. I'm the the the th. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to th. th. to th. th. to th. th. th. th. I've th. I'm I'm I'm to to to be woke. Your prejudice, your intolerance, which is completely hypocritical. Listen, I was that. I was only about like, hey, what about this? But I was just instructed. I wasn't listening to my true gut. I wasn't looking at the entire scope of things, which is what a comic does. And if you, you, you, you, it's the violation of free speech when you're trying to dictate what I say, who I'm behind, and

Starting point is 01:13:27 you just, and making, you are actually targets. They're looking at my color. And I used to be that guy. I was, well, you've never had any problems. You're white, you know, whatever it is. I mean, it's so ridiculous. I've come from this place when, now you have a child. I do come from, I do come from from from from from from the color from the color from to come from the color from to come from to come from the color from to come from to come from to come from to come from a color from a color, to come from a color, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who I, who, who, who, who place when, now you have a child. You know, I come from, I do come from the colorless thing. I would ask them for a description of someone, I would never say to them literally, were they black? I would say, what did they look like if they were describing something?

Starting point is 01:13:57 Because everybody is, you know, by the way, there is nobody like black, like your shirt that you're wearing right now? But it gets into the point like like the point like the point the point the point the point the point th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to say, I to say, I do. to come. I do. I do. I do. to come. to come. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I would th. I would th. I would th. I would to. I would to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. I would would the. I would th you're wearing right now. But there's nobody. But it gets into the point where it's like why do I say oh and this black guy walks in? Why do I say that on stage? Because it is painting the picture. You want them to have the best understand like in a weird way Craig, stand-up comedy is like the original VR set right where it's it's like, our job in as little words as possible is to take you to a place where you are envisioning what we're talking about. We all are kind of taken to this alternative reality and like why, you know, Craig, you reach the highest levels of comedy.

Starting point is 01:14:42 At the highest levels, you were, you know, you, I mean, you were the love master. Everybody knew about the love master. I was growing up in upstate New York. I knew about the love master, you know, everybody knew, you were a household name and, you know, by the way, have you heard this recently? You couldn't do that today. You heard that. I hear that all the time. No, I'm say, that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the. the. the. the. that's, the. the. the. they. the. they. the, the, the, the, the. the. the, the, the, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you. the. the. the. the. the, you. the. the, you. the, you. the, you. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the. the. the. the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, I. the, I. the, I hear that all the time. No, I'm saying that's what the woke says. You can't do that today. I go, who says they can't do that today? What kind of a world do we live in when the creative arts, when you have limitations on the creative arts? You can't do that today? What does that even mean? What's really weird about is I now do the love master I sort of started to get away from it. I'm now doing it more and it's destroying because it's great. Well it's literally it's literally it's doubling down against you for telling me I can't do this

Starting point is 01:15:36 and let's the whole joke of the love masters it's a joke about people like that. They don't understand I'm really thinking I've got this big dick. I mean, I was like thinking, the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th thi, I'm not thi, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not doing thing thing thing thi, I'm not thi, I'm not doing thi, I'm not doing thi, I'm no thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi. thi's thi's thi's thiiiiii's thii's thiiii's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. It's a joke about people like that. They don't understand, not really thinking I've got this big dick. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm thinking I'm this great lover. It's a guy that would act like that. And I'm making fun of that guy. And that's what they, they're, they're so, but they're, here's how the woke works. They look around the room. virtual room of life. Is this supposed, how am I supposed to react to this?

Starting point is 01:16:05 It's like almost they almost have to check with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. I always tell black people at my show, there's a lot of, they have a lot of pressure because they have to laugh at every black joke. I do, they have to look around and laugh at everybody be calm and know it's okay to laugh at these jokes. But you're totally right, man. And a big thing, Craig, is it's all, and I said this on Rogan a long time ago, it's like they're try and create a world that plays of their strengths and outlaws their weaknesses. So they want to be,

Starting point is 01:16:36 you know, blacks want to tell their jokes, women want to tell jokes, but they don't want the other side to do it, because they don't want to compete against that. They don't want to compete against these people. They want to have a monopoly on these jokes so they can be the only one doesn't. And I'm like, that doesn't even make any sense to me. By the way, I had a couple of funny things that. First of all, I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I found I, I found out from my DNA, I am 14% Ghana from Africa. So, so actually, I now, it's all waived now. And the other thing is, what I would do the love master on radio, I had loads of people that, if they come to my show, I thought you're black.

Starting point is 01:17:14 So are they gonna walk out now? You know, I don't like the jokes anymore. That really shows the irony of everything is like audio-wise, man, this guy's funny. And I was like, you know, all these awards and stuff, you know, but then they see you and they go, oh no, I can't like this. He's a big white man. This guy's had no suffering in his life. You know, I was beaten as a kid. Like, you've been through it. Yeah, literally like, kidnapped by a serial pedophile. thiaia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thii. thi, I. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And. Literally like kidnapped by a serial pedophile. I've had this suffering that's inside of me that makes me who I am. It makes me funny because I have this well to go in and a healing of laughter,

Starting point is 01:17:56 which goes for everyone. That should go for everyone. You can't put anybody in a category. Oh, he's a big white guy. Therefore, therefore we can't, he can't say anything over here, he can't talk about this, he can't talk about that, we're now going to limit. These are people in the creative arts that are stopping the creator from expressing itself. Yeah, and I think how do you justify that? This is McCarthyism when you do this. I totally agree.. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. th. that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. they. they. their, their, their, their, the you do this. I totally agree. That's exactly what McCarthyism was?

Starting point is 01:18:25 Well, my favorite part is that they're like, oh, dude, this is McCarthyism. I go, well, I hate to tell you guys, but I think McCarthy was right about some stuff. I mean, it became a witch hunt, but he was 100%, like there's a that's a testament to your skill and your hard work and your hard work ethic, you know. And, you know, I would think that like when you were going, likethe the suit you had to deal with, the people you had to talk to, the everything that you had to deal with to go through, and then here we are in 2023 and to think someone who had to go through all that corporate stuff that

Starting point is 01:19:15 you had to go through is now like, it's even more restrictive than ever, and the industry's done. an and it's like we thi thi thi thi that it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's even more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's even that it's even that it's even that it's even more, it's even more, it's even more, it's even more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, it's more, like, like, like, like, that's even that's even more, that's even more, like, that's even more, that's even more, that's even more, that's even more, that's even more, that's even more, that's even more, it's more, it's like where we can all make it through the the internet And yet we're having this moment where it's like dude It's more dangerous than it's it's been it's more controlling than ever and that to me I was just think about that the other day like when I was a kid if I was saying in 2023 Comedy was getting more sense or never I mean like that's not possible we'd be not possible not so wide open now, you know so so so so, you know, Carlin and Pryor breaking down these doors. Now you're going to put the doors back up. They broke down the doors of policing and so forth. And now you're going to be the police.

Starting point is 01:19:56 You're going to be the virtual, you know, the virtue signaling police. And in the whole pandemic the way that was handled is, I mean, really, the hypocrisy. Nobody knew what the hell they were doing, but they would claim that they did. And they would say, trust science. I used to say, did you trust Mangala? Did you know, did you know, you know, they trust the mangola? Yeah, they trust to that. Oh, yes, I can. Because I'm trying to wake you up. Okay, if you're woke, that means you think that you're awake, you are asleep. You're asleep at the wheel. If you're not looking at all the nuance, all the tapestry of color out there.

Starting point is 01:20:34 And I mean colors, colors of the world and all that, when you look inside of that. I don't know if you knew this but my brother's not my real brother there, but my brother did the movie about all this. You know he did Plandemic and you've seen my buddy's just did he put out number three recently? Yeah, just the premiere was two weeks ago is my buddy says it's the Eddy Bravo said it's the absolutely perfect movie made. He's like it's amazing. Yeah, Mickey Mickey Mickey. By the absolutely perfect movie made. He's like, it's amazing. Yeah, Mickey, Mickey, some that, by the way, Mickey's a great example. This is why I went down that road with him, because I'm going to tell you truth to what happened. He and I big lefties, and I mean, I'm big time, I was all supportive. I have a poem like a rap about, you know, BLM and stuff like that, and this white skinned, that I th skin, that I that thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, I, I, m. th. th. M. th. th. th. th. M. M. M. I, th. M. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. And, th. M. M. M. M. And, th. M. M. M. And, th. M. M. And, th and stuff like that and this white skin that I'm in and all this kind of, I'm like, come on and say it. I mean, and then I went from that to, Mickey was the first person to wake me up because he was big Bernie Bro left as could be. And we were both into transformational leaders, which is that's what I want to do. And by the way title and they're just a big circle jerk. Everybody's just circle jerk at each other in these transformational leaders. I'm going,

Starting point is 01:21:49 how come we're not helping people in Skid Row right now? You're having a big party out here, which I don't party. You know, let's celebrate ourselves all the time. No, that's egotistical. That's self-involved. I'm about being of service. That's a whole way that I'm happy today is because of being of service to others. Why, just be it. And don't put a label on who you're being of service to. Just be of service, the thear-upiournament, to the serva. to be their service. to Miki. they. Miki. they-Broad. He had elevate films all about elevating people and everything that was about very, very woke. Very woke.

Starting point is 01:22:27 And then somebody let him down a rabbit hole. And he had the courage. This is, I so admire him. And the first one I saw it, I saw it on Facebook, I saw it, the transmission, the transmission attacking him, like really after I'm going, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not who Mickey is. So I had a conversation with, I'm not exaggerating, we had a six hour screaming argument, screaming because I'm going, Donald Trump, and he would tell me things about Trump,

Starting point is 01:22:52 because you don't know, I go, no, I know, I know, I know, there's no way you can tell me he's for the environment, whatever, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, and to, and, and to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they.. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too, the too, too, too, they, the speak to one another. And then I had my own courage, I went, you know what, I'm gonna listen to this guy. I love me, he's my brother, why would I go away? Well, let's hear what he has to say. Turns out he was, he discovered this entire, just, it's a really heavy duty, man.

Starting point is 01:23:17 It's frightening. It's frightening. You watch the first pandemic, what I I I I, the the the the the the the the thap, than, the first, than, than, than, than, than, than, the thi, thi, thi, threat. It, threat. It, the first, the first, the first, threaten, their, the first, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, that, that, that, that, they, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that do? You know, what can I do? But it truly did awaken me to what the corruption, the deep corruption it goes on. And he did it, he did it, and he made this movie, and now he's got me. Because I tell people all the time I go, hey, you can call them this, of course they attacked the message. It's the oldest method in the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, thapap message. Just like when I was announced that I was working

Starting point is 01:23:45 with you, I was reading on Instagram, they go, that guy's a conspiracy theorist. You know, that's, that's a conspiracy theorist. You know, that guy, you know, that's a conspiracy theorist, you know, that's invented by the CIA, so you won't go any further. And I would say, you know, so is Aaron Brockovichovich. the the, I. the the, I, I, I, I, the conspiracy, I, I, I, the conspiracy, I, I, the conspiracy, I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's conspiracy, that's conspiracy, that's conspiracy, that's conspiracy, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. th. It's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's, thi's, thi's a conspiracy, thi's a conspiracy, thi's a logic, I go, you know, so is Aaron Brockovich, so is Jeffrey Wygan with a tobacco. Good thing that they, good thing they were a conspiracy theorist wasn't, it turned out to be true, or Daniel Ellsberg with the Pentagon papers. And then you start looking at wars, you know, you know, MacDamara who admitted that Vietnam was a absolute thabababababababababababababababababababab-in, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, you, you, you, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooo, tho, tho, tho, thi made up. So, so all of these things happened, opioid epidemic, 500,000 deaths, right? So suddenly, because the woke says, oh, now we're going to trust all these people that killed all these people with all these lies. Yeah, yeah, and if you go up against, yeah, suddenly they found Jesus, the drug companies.

Starting point is 01:24:40 Be logical. Be smart. Stop with the labeling because you're now just doing exactly what they want you to do. So I said, I tell people I was there, I would go, Mickey is my brother. And I will tell you assuredly, this guy is not doing it for, you know, they always have the reason. I go, you can't speculate what someone's reason for doing something is. You cannot do that. So I'll tell you what his reason is he wants to protect his children and he went down this hole and you should watch the damn movie, by the way. I'll give you the secret code if you want. Yeah, I would love to watch. I would love to watch. Plandemic series. You know what he does. He's so smart. He debunkers, you know, like Scopes, Snopes, have you seen where

Starting point is 01:25:25 that... Oh yeah, I mean, I haven't seen thing, but yeah, people don't realize that guy, it's like, who he is and what he's done. He's been sued by his ex-wife for money. Allegedly, for the, you know, for the propaganda. The Bill Gates Foundation. Helping children with all this stuff. Break it apart. That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thiiii. thi. thioliolioli. thiologui. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiol-I. Yeah, thiol-I. Yeah, thiolk, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Wea. People thi. People thi. People thi. People thi. People thi. People thi. People thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, the Bill Gates Foundation, helping children with all this stuff, break it apart. That's what Mickey does. Oh, let's prop up Fauci, this impish guy that's kind of giggling at Trump when Jim Prone was making him. And I fell for that guy too. I'm going, yeah, this, look at this guy.

Starting point is 01:25:59 And then I realized, so he's been around for this many administrations, and I realized, so was Hoover. Yeah. It was Hoover, the FBI. It doesn't mean that they're on the up and up. It doesn't mean they're not correct. David I calls that the permanent state. Like, you don't, the passing by state doesn't matter. It's the permanent state. Like Bill Barr's been there, thi, they, they, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi. It doesn't thi. It doesn't those guys are there for multiple administrations. They're the permanent say.

Starting point is 01:26:26 But going back to a conspiracy theor's thing, it's like, you know, when I was coming up with the name of this podcast, which is Tim Fall Hat, I was like, you know, I'm gonna, I wanna take the term that was the most demonized term. And I go, okay, I'm gonna take thake, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. tot, tot, tot, tot, tot, tot. tot. tot. tot. tot. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm gonna take that and just own it. And like people gave me so much crap about it because they're like, dude, no, it's gonna come on the show and like little that I know, it's like why the show gets so many listeners is because people know exactly what it is. And they know what they're watching, what they're looking for, so they find it. And like, it has caused me a lot of chaos in my life. You know, my mother, who I love with all my heart, you know, it was not very happy with me and the things I was saying during the height of COVID and all that stuff.

Starting point is 01:27:12 I got a lot of crap. And, you know, my brother called me up one time when I posted a picture of me flipping off George Bush, senior statue at the Houston airport because like all the stuff all the death and destruction that the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi, thi, thi, th like all the stuff, all the death and destruction that the death, George Bush death, death call has caused to this country and like I got so much crap for that and my family loves me and I love them and I wouldn't change families for a bazillion dollars. But it's like, you know, that's what, like, that moment caused. It was like within the family, people are fighting over stuff because we were just being inundated with all this propaganda.

Starting point is 01:27:53 And like, all these institutions that we grew up respecting had betrayed us because, you know, they were set up. They were set up for this moment. The's the moment for a very long time. They've been setting this up, building this credibility them so that when they needed, they try to point us in the direction. And luckily, there was a bunch of people like your friend who made the movie and like,

Starting point is 01:28:16 Planned Demic was like really started to open up people's eyes going. Why are they banning this movie? Like why did they take it down? Why did they take it down? You know they did the same thing with the movie and I thought it was brilliant. And it lasted just like a week and I happen to see it in the movie theater, Vaxed. I was years ago. This is way before the pandemic, Vaxed. And I'm watching the movie. And here's waugh. the movies. I just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the movie the movie the movie the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. they the same thi the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same. the same the same. the same. the same. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thi. the. thi. thi. the. thi. thi. they they they they they they don't have logic. When you're seeing before your eyes, Mickey puts things before your eyes of people speaking these things. They said these things, they predicted these things. They actually, he does a deep dive where he says, oh, these people own patents and they own

Starting point is 01:28:56 their trade marks and they own, they benefit financially from selling whatever they're selling, which is, and I'm watching this movie..... would they ban this thing? These are people with actual stories. This happened. You can't deny, this, by the way, this, I'm going to give a little tip to stand up. This is how I got really good. It was the day that I started sharing just experiences because you can't deny it. So, so I, like today I'm tod, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they, thi, thi, they, thi, they, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, th.. th. th. thi, thi, th. to. to. th. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, th. it's so I so like today I'm talking about my experiences I used to be in a lab. My experiences I was Mickey's brother my experiences we argued and didn't speak to one the other. These are my experiences. My experiences I saw Aaron Brockovich and I watched that and I appeal it and I go wait a minute that's a conspiracy theories. This is my these aren't theories that I have. I'm living this life and that's th. I'm living. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. th. th. th. th. th. the. thee. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm theories that I have. I'm living this life and that's what I share on stage. And now it's come to the point where this is where my life is.

Starting point is 01:29:50 My life has come to this place where I'm going, wow, I really love being in truth. And this is my truth. And so you can't deny that this is my experience. And that's the whole secret to comedy is I'm not thiiiiiiiiiiiiolinginginginging. the whole. thininininininininin. thin. thin. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. This is thi. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the. the. thi. thi. This is the. This is my experience. And that's the whole secret to comedy for me, is I'm not telling opinions. Now a lot of people do. They have an opinion, but their opinion is formed by an echo chamber that you are a member. So I don't watch the news anymore. I literally do not watch the news. I was addicted to the news when everything is about Donald Trump.

Starting point is 01:30:19 Why don't you be smart and realize you made Donald Trump the same people who despise him made him you gave him free publicity. That's my experience of it. I'm going, wait a minute, I'm experiencing this on a daily basis. This is my whole diet was Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump. And I thought he's guilty guilty guilty guilty. And then I step back and I had this realization I'm going, wow, you are giving this guy free publicity. He's working you you you, you stupid ass. And now. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I. And I th. And I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that. the. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. this guy free publicity. He's working you, you stupid ass. And now when I can't even get, I can't even get away from the whole indictment and arrest all this. I can't even, I try not to watch anything, but it, bam, it comes up, it comes up, it comes up. And it is a, it's a lore too. Here, I'm dedicated not to watch.. news and even that it sucks me and I go

Starting point is 01:31:09 And I go he was arrested. I'm going to go look in a video and see if he really was cuffed You know I was like a little fascinated by it. I go yeah, I mean it's it we are addicted to fight and flight. We are addicted to it Yeah, and it is it is it is powerful. It is it is this thing that fits into what I've been talking about in the show, which is like, we have basic needs, food, shelter, clothing, but one another need that nobody talks about is purpose. We really need purpose. And when you were born into a world where everything is taken care of, which doesn't sound like your life at all. And I mean, I was blessed, I had two parents that took care of me and, you know,

Starting point is 01:31:46 but nothing was ever handed to me. And I had purpose. Well, when you wake up with everything given to you all the time, you search purpose. You look for other people's purpose as your purpose. And this fight, this need for fighting flight. We have these people that these like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thkikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikiki, like, like, like, like, thki, thki, thki, thki, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I tho, I tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to tho, to to tho, tho, to tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho-s, doesn't tho-s, doesn't to-s, doesn't to-s, to-s, to-s, doesn't to-s, tho. tho. tho, doesn't need for fighting flight, we have these people that take on these like, well, these kind of windmills like Don Quixote. They're fighting these windmills acting like their monsters in reality.

Starting point is 01:32:13 They just give them purpose and most of these, these windmills that they're fighting, never have an, on a goal line, there's never going to be a point where they're like, we've solved racism, we've solved the environment, we've solved hell. It never ends, it's never meant. It's impossible because of their intolerance, because they can't listen to you, if you have an opposing opinion, you are immediately a trumper. And I say that, whoa, I'm the opposite. You know the reason I don't like Donald Trump is he doesn't he thian he he he he he he he he he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, th. thin, thin, thin, th. thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, th. th. th. th. th. It is, th. th. It is, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. And you know the reason I don't like Donald Trump is he doesn't share my values. That's it. That's my personal experience.

Starting point is 01:32:48 Doesn't share my values. Met the guy personally. But so that's my experience. But that's my experience. But that's my experience. But that's my experience. But so that's my experience. to me.

Starting point is 01:32:53 It's unbelievable. But I never thought that it could happen to my liberals. I never thought this. It's unbelievable. And it happens awakening. By the way, the woke problem that I might have is the arrogance. You say you woke. It's I can't even understand how you, how about you call yourself compassionate? How about your empathetic? I'm down with that, and that's what I am, right?

Starting point is 01:33:21 I'm a empathetic guy. So I'm not saying, so I'm not saying. So I'm not saying. So I'metic guy. So I'm not saying you're not. Woke means that there's so much to that word that says, I will deem, I will deem what is appropriate. I will deem who's marginalized. And then I came up with the other day, I'm going, I thought too much because Native Americans has always been a thing for me. That's one of those. We've the world, thak, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, tho, th, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.e. that's tho. tho. that's tho. thoo. that's thoo. that's that's that's has been done, particularly to the women.

Starting point is 01:33:45 Why in the world do we not ever look at that? I think it's such a shame spot. I'll tell you, Craig, I'll tell you why they do that. It's because they can't spin that in to a diversity showcase into a writing gig, into forcing these comedy clubs to give them spots. There's nothing, it's my, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.a, the. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, to give them spots. There's nothing, it's my, you know, I was watching Jimmy Doar the other day and he had, oh, fuck, what's his name on? Anyways, his really great comedy is on and it's late, so I'm forgetting his name and I think he's freaking brilliant. But Kurt Metzger, there we go, Kurt Metzger, and Kurt Metzger brought up that like why, why in this really politically

Starting point is 01:34:27 correct world that Hollywood has created, why are they okay with like openly acting like they worship Satan and pedophile, he didn't, he didn't talk about this, but this is part, I'm adding personally pedophile jokes and all these pedophile shit. And I go, well, because kids can't cancel these people. That's why kids can't come together and march and get you kicked off a show. They have no power. If we want to talk punching up and punching down, which I don't get into, but if we're going to, there's no bigger punching down than hurting children. And the fact that this town which

Starting point is 01:35:05 has taught us that you know has at gunpoint again forced us to think about microaggressions of male toxicity are okay with the sexualization of children when listen I'm like I learned something about you and what you went through as a kid and you and I are in recovery I don't want to blow up your spot we won't get too much into that. But I go to a lot of meetings all the time. And when I hear, every share involves what they went through as children.

Starting point is 01:35:34 And yet, these people are okay of hurting the, of doing this stuff to children. It's like, why is that liberal-like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th Like, what is that about you? Because it's the only thing that is dangerous and edgy that can't get you canceled. And it's just this desire to push the envelope. In reality, like kids get hurt in real life, man. And I don't know why it's woke to do pedophile jokes. I don't understand that. Now, I will defend your right to do those jokes. Because I don't the Okay? Now you could say something and somebody comes up and punches in the face that that's that's not you know free of consequences okay but you know I will defend your right to say something.

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Starting point is 01:37:56 I was so much in pain because I had no one to listen to me. No one to hear this pain. You know the father talked about this the other day, my first laugh when I will never forget it. I told a story of pain. I told a story of my fourth grade class. We were evicted again. We moved again. I'm in this new area with rich kids around me. They couldn't stand me. I was really tiny. They caught me. They caught me. They tiny, I was so humiliated. I was not accepted at all, right? They beat me. I was very tiny, they beat me. And then one day, I shared my experience, my mom beating me for breaking this big glass bottle.

Starting point is 01:38:35 She threw me around like a piñata. I thought candy was going to come out of me. It was just like she'd been, and I'm telling this story that it's fourth grade class. It was the first time anyone ever noticed me. It was the first time, every time we're laughing. This is unbelievable. And I kept going with more detail. And then she tossed me over here. Wow.

Starting point is 01:38:52 He was trying not to laugh. You know what? theymeat. told me. toobey. to. the. the did the next day? Locked me in a closet for an entire day with my hands bound behind my back with blue yarn. She took blue yarn, tied my hands behind my back to do not get off of this box, a supply closet box. And I would get off to finally I looked for fat thighs coming at me with her mini skirt. I would look through the vent and I jumped back up on the box. A whole whole th. A whole th. A whole th. A whole th. A whole th. th. th. to. th. to. the to. the the th. th. th. the the the th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, thi. the the, the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And I was. And I was. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. I was. C. C. I. I. C. I was th. I was tie. I was tie. I was tie. tie. tiea. tiea. tiea. I tiea. I tiea. I'm. I'm tiea. I'm tiea. I'm tiea. I'm tie. And I'm tie. And I looked through the vent and I jumped back up on the box. A whole day I sat in there. Wow, Craig. And that was the day that the higher source said, you keep going.

Starting point is 01:39:31 And no one encourages to do. No one says, there's no guidance counter, teacher, there's no parent that says, be a comedian. You know what it turned into, I was told to meet this guy. He's is the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy. He's local. He's a guy that went up against everybody. He was going to be arrested. He opened his church during the pandemic. I would say, you should meet this guy. And I met him. I happened to speak at the church. I did a speech at the church for this men's group. He goes, come back backstage. He goes, come back stage. I want to to talk to you. He goes, his daughter. His daughter. His. His. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the to. the the the the the the the the the their. their. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He was. He. He was. He was. He was. He. He was. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He? He goes, yes, it's really Craig Shemaker. That was a little weird. It was a little more than a fan. He tells the story on stage.

Starting point is 01:40:09 He goes, I was studying to be a minister. I'm 28 years old, I mean, 28 years ago. And I had a mentor, a mentor, it was a pastor. He was a Christian man with a family and kids, and I had a f f f f f f f f fook her to my parents' house and I said, she's pregnant and they said, you get out of this house, we disown you. This is a child of sin. You get out of his house, you are no longer our child. Then she walks out of the house, and a woman says it's not your child, it's his best friend's child. The guy who's teaching him Christianity. Completely. Oh my God. Oh my God. I. Oh, Oh, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, thi. Oh, this is is a this is a child. This is a child, this is a child, this is a child, this is is is is is is is is a child, this is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is a this is is a this is, this is, this is. Oh, this is a this is. Oh, this is a this is a child, this is a child, this is a child, this is a child, this is a child, this is a child, thi. Oh, the the thi. Oh, the the the the the the the the the the the thi. This is a child. This is a child. This is a child. This is a child. This is a child. Oh, imagine feeling that pain. I'm becoming a Christian, a very man who's teaching me, has impregnated my fiance, so he's going to commit suicide. He is going to make a left off this cliff.

Starting point is 01:40:54 He has it all planned. And he's about to do it and a miracle occurred. And I was going, I went to Kenny Largan's concert that night. He's an old friend of mine. he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, ethereal. You ever have that feeling just a, like, here's some big higher source, it's just in charge right now, you're a total piece, and I get a text from that minister. He says to me, the reason I didn't commit suicide, it's someone, I made the right instead of making a left off the cliff. You saved my life and I'm with you forever. And I went back to fourth grade and my memory hit me right away. I started crying a little bit.

Starting point is 01:41:34 I go, wow. Thank you, Mrs. Stout. Thank you for locking me in that closet. Because that was the moment where a miracle occurred. That's not the only, that's not the only person we've saved. We give an alternative to people. And again, that's my experience who can't deny my experience. You can't deny the existence of some higher source that's scripting these things. We can't script this thing. We're brilliant writers. We can never script something from fourth grade to today.

Starting point is 01:42:05 This guy, I go on hikes with him. He says, sermons about what I talked about because I challenge him on Christianity. I'm not just gonna get in there and go, yeah, you know, let's, I know, I'm gonna say to him, here's some problems I have. I don't understand sin, I know all these things. And he goes up there and he has such respect for me and I have such respect for him. He's become one of my best friends. I love it, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:27 Greg, I want to tell you something, man. It's like you've done so much amazing stuff and you know, just hearing your, and you know, we've gone way longer than I, but it was, it's been such a great discussion. So I'm sorry I kept you up late. But... Oh no, bro, this is awesome. We'll do it again sometime. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do a full episode. We'll get you in the studio because we record in LA.

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Starting point is 01:43:37 only only on only on one person shows in a theater then I have the guts to do it I are very I do not I will admit and you listen you're you've got to I have the guts to do it. I have a very, I do not, I will admit, and you listen, you've got to do it, man, you got to. The reason I asked you the very first person I ever asked when I said, Unwoke AF and people want, that's a great, I have a great symbol for it. I have a team mate now, they're going to put this on to her first person. The very. the very very very very. the very. t. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I is is, the very. I is, the very. I is, the very. I is, the very. I is, the very, I'm, I'm, the very, I've, I've got, the very. The very. The very. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very first. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very. The very, the very, the very. The very. The very. The very first person, very first first person, very first. the very first. the very first first first. the very first. the first first. the first. the first. the first. because of your courage. So I admire your courage and where you, but you know, listen, if we compare careers, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where how far I went and all that said, thank you, I appreciate that. It's always wonderful to hear that from a pierce. You know, I walk in to doing the headline set

Starting point is 01:44:25 And I walk in and gradually it's starting to happen for me where I'm feeling better where they go Hey man, you're O. G. Of course, I know who you are because I assume that no one does But I will tell you from a far that I know who you are and that's the first call that I know who you are it and it's the first we're doing this tour and it's going to be confused. I did a show with you in the Valley I felt like did so bad I ran off I was like oh I just bombed in front of my friend. I felt so bad I was like oh man that was so weird. Well I don't have to dissect that but you the reason you bombed is you kept telling them you were bombing. Oh yeah. Well that's that's the the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. the reason. I the reason. I just. I just. I just. I just. I the reason. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I the. I the. I the. I the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. I just. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I just. telling them you were bombing. Oh yeah, well that's something. It's like comedy 101. Yeah, yeah. I get told not to say that. It's this weird mind trick I try to do with people. Yeah, and it just didn't work that. But what I do want to say is I really appreciate you asking me.

Starting point is 01:45:18 And it's like it meansthink the beauty of this tour that you're going to put together is that you should take these chances on stage and there's no reason why, you know, what you did in that one-man show can't work in this, because like, I just think that you talk in punchlines already, that you will have a natural ability to take any story and turn it into you know into a joke like you know it's like the beauty of Doug Stanope is like he's been doing it so long that you he could experience anything and then go right to the stage and already have his point of view and like he's just a punchline machine so and like you've been doing it and it's like you know you remind me of my buddy Bratt Ern's who I always say is like he he's like he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he's like he's like he's like he's like he's a he he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a he's just like he's just th. he's just a th. He's just th. th. He's just th. He's just like he's just like he's just like he's just like he's just th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He's just th. He's just the the the the the th. He's just a the the the th. He's just a th. He's just a th. He's just a the the the the the the the the the the the the the they's just the the the the the the thi's just thi's just th. He's just a punchline machine. So, and like you've been doing it. And it's like, you know, you remind me of my buddy Brett Ernst, who I always say is like, he's a good looking guy with ugly people problems, you know, and, you know, and

Starting point is 01:46:13 like, you're a good looking guy, you're a successful guy, but where you come from is like so unique as fuck and I think people would appreciate hearing that because I bet you there's a lot of people. So it's so funny. I don't know that side of you. Thank you for thank you for the encouragement. Hartland Williams did the same thing. It came on my podcast and he gave me this encouragement to. And I'm doing it in the book, you know, and I'm starting to do it on stage a bit. It's just really you know I made a really nice nice. I a nice a nice a nice. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. Don. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. th. Don't. th. th. I'm. th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th nice career by not doing it. You did exceptionally well. Like, I mean, without getting into like all the cool shit, you did, but you did a pretty amazing. Nothing and made it into something and I'm proud of that.

Starting point is 01:46:53 But now I'm next leveling it. You know, I have a coaching program where I can coach anyone to be funny. It's all about, I call it's all about being in that flow. And then you're in a natural state. It's a natural state. It's a beautiful state to be in. Where you are naturally funny because of the things that I'm teaching. But it's really about the certain experiences. It's authenticity. It's really exploring all these pain points that we have.

Starting point is 01:47:17 It's really digging down, embracing them and people relate to it. Now, they they they the they the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, it, it, their, their, thi, thi, think, threathomen, it's, thinks, their, their, thinks, thinks, thinks, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, the things, the things, because, the things, the things, the things, the things, the things, the things, the things, and, and, and, and, and, and, and people, and people, and people relate to it. Now they're scared of it too if I bring up the pedophile thing, oh my god, why would you talk about that on stage? Why would you do that to get so upset with me? I say I'm doing it. I think that's what people, that to me is what's going to make you stand out in a second kind of coming of your career. That's what I think. And it's like the one thing I want to really push back on in your, if I'm blessed enough to go on tour with you and do some dates and even in my own dates is that like the notion of like everything's got to be a laugh every two seconds. And this kind of like this, I don't know what I want, this infection that is spread where, like everything has to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the their their their their th.. their. their. their. I their. their. their. their. th. their. that. their. that. that. their. the. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. I. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the kind. the the kind. the kind. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. thing. th. th. th. the what I want, this infection that is spread where like

Starting point is 01:48:06 everything has to be pop comedy. It's like my biggest problem with Hollywood, not Los Angeles, but Hollywood comedy is that everything's got, like anybody that isn't having a good second every two seconds is like there's something wrong. And, you know, I grew up on watching people take real chances on stage and it wasn't always pop comedy laugh every two seconds, but it was like an experience of like I'm talking some real shit and real shit takes time to digest. So if it isn't every two seconds, just because they're not laughing doesn't mean they're not entertained. And I'm telling you, it's like really weird because I'll go on a road, bro, and sometimes I slam so hard, and then I get off stage and nobody wants to talk to me.

Starting point is 01:48:52 And then I have these stages, these shows where it's like, I'm having like internal crisis, I'm wondering what I'm doing with my life, why I'm here right now? And then the lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines lines, the lines, the lines, the lines, the lines, the lines, the lines, the lines, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, the line, to meet me and it's such a mind fuck and I don't know why it happens but I think of those moments where it's like things aren't going exactly where I want but there's this kind of connection and that we're having a moment together and like that to me is what is where the internet is taking us and we're seeing this death of this political correctness because you know shit that you want th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th th th. th. thi the thi the the that that that the. tho tho tho tho-I tho-I the. the. the. the. the. the. thi thi. thi thi thi. the. the the the the th the th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the that that the that the the the the the the theeeeeeeeean thean thean theeean theean theeeeean theeeee. the. the. we're seeing this death of this political correctness because it's you know shit that you want to do stuff that my buddies like Rogin and the guys in Legion of Skanks have done is like this kind of like hey man we're gonna have some real shit going on you we're gonna have some real conversations and you're gonna have a moment of laughter you're gonna get angry at some stuff you're gonna to cry at some stuff but you're gonna cry at some stuff, but you're gonna feel something. And at the end of the day, you're gonna get more bang for your buck than you've ever gone before.

Starting point is 01:49:47 And you're gonna know who I am. And I'm gonna understand who you guys as a crowd are. And I think that's the future. And that's why I think you got nothing to lose, brother, and you should just go up there and just the little conversation you've had a little....... think anyone wouldn't be absolutely amazed at like the balls and authenticity that you would display on stage doing what we're talking about right now. Yeah, yeah, you're right. It's it, and I do have this thing, like, I'm so used to punchlines.

Starting point is 01:50:21 I'm so used to kill it. And you'll figure it out out to do that. You'll figure out how to do that. It's got to be, yeah, there's got to be some, and it's, it's in my mind, look, if I'm on a stage, I'm doing a one person show. You know, I remember I did one, I did a one person show, and I was, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's. It's. It's. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. It. It. It. It. It. There, it. There, it, it. There, it. It. There, it. It. There, it. It. There, it. It. There, it, it. It. There, it. There, it. It. It. There, it, it. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's got. It's got. It's got. It's got. It's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, it's got, me. He thought there was a punchline that I got kidnapped. He's, I had, it's I go, oh, wrong place. You know, there could be humor in that.

Starting point is 01:50:51 Of course there can be. But it's, it's the stage that it's on that I have to get over my blocks. Yeah, I get it. Look, I'm a train boxer. Bam. Bam. I'm just just just just just. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. tha. thi. the the the thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the, theat, theateateateateateateateateateateatea. theateateatea. theateateatethese people told me last night did a quick set they said it's the greatest comedy I've ever seen in my life that's what they said to me But you know what that I do it I wasn't up there I wasn't up there going my father's a cult leader and I just found another sister and that it's not not no I think it's you're I thi I think I th th th th th th th th th th th thi it's thi it's thi it's thi it's thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi thi thi toooooooooooooooooo. teeeeeat. to. the the the the the the the the the th it's like, you're in a great place because you can experiment with the credibility that you have in the community and all that stuff. And I think you can find these little venues where it's like working on new shit and kind of explore it. I think people are going to really like what you're doing. I'm not going to keep you up much longer. Craig, one more time. The show Saturday night, tell us one more time. Just about sold out, just about

Starting point is 01:51:49 sold out, which I'm very happy about. It's the first unwoke show and it's going to go on tour and it's going to be, you know, in theaters and things like this. So the very first one, this is our inaugural, inaugural, Bonnual voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage voyage, here. Here, here we go, we're off and running here, you me and Kate Quigley, I might have a guest set of somebody and it's not going to be, this is not going to be my normal set. I can't wait, dude. This is going to be, even the love master by the way, is unwoke, unwoke. Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 01:52:19 I'm going to double down on it. It just destroyed. I went for it last night. I usually don't do it in short sets. I went for it so much they were Grapping themselves. It's the most inappropriate character you could come up with Why would anybody not want to see you do that and the only people that don't want to see you do that? Are the people who can't compete with that? That's who don't want to see? So, it's like I would. I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I thi. I th. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the th. th. the th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. th. th. th. that. That's who don't want to see it. So it's like I would give the people what they want and just explore this new part of you and I think when you know you know how to craft an hour and like if you just you know in life bro it's like every special every new album I try to work on something new and I remember going I'm going to learn how to t stories. So I worked on stories and I had to go through it because I had to get to the rhythm of it. And you can do it, dude, and like it's gonna be fun to watch.

Starting point is 01:53:09 And you know, this kind of like the dark side that made the love master is gonna be the thing that really people. And dude, to have all the success you have at this, thapapapapapapapapapap. this, this, this, this, this, th. th. I, th. I, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, the, thi, that, thi, the, thi, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, and, to be, to be, and, to be, th... And, to be, to be, and, th.. And, to be, to be, to be, th..... And, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, th. And, thin, thin, thin, thu. to, thu. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, thu. And, th. And, career and have all this shit that you didn't talk about to be able to go into is like such a blessing. It's like there's all these more years you have of comedy of like talking about all the shit you went through and all the stuff you never really want to talk on because maybe at the time coming up in Hollywood and the when you start comedy like we know in fourth grade, but when did you really start? Uh, 17, I was a, actually, no, junior year in high school. What years? At 80s? 90s? What is that? Yeah, I've been, I've been all through the 80s and this? Okay. So to start in the 80s, dude. And like, be able to be in the 2023 to be like, I got all this shit I haven't thrown, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. What, the, the, to, the, to, to, to, they, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, the, the, the out the way it's meant to. Look what Carlin did. He literally had an album where one side was his old self and he man that was the bravest move in history. Yeah I'm excited to see it. Yeah I mean that was a really, really brave move and he had a family and that's the thing I have four kids to support. You can't do certain things at a corporation that's for sure. Yeah you have you have th. You have th. You have th. You have th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's th. th. that's that's th. I th. th. th. I th. I that's that's that that was the th. I that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was the the the th. I was the the the the the the the th. I was the the th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a th. I was a that that that that that that that that. I was a that the pocket. I got this corporate act, but this is the act that's going to be underground.

Starting point is 01:54:27 This is the one that's going to be helping people. This is one that's going to be helping people. This is one that's going to inspire people ever done because it's bringing out other people's sense of self, their sense of humor. It's a development of it, and it's their authenticity, all being brought out at a time where we were locked down. We have, but our souls have been ripped from us. The truth has been ripped from us. And this is a chance to get to your own truth, really exposed these thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapes, these their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their authenticity, their authenticity, their authenticity, their authenticity, their to go to, and that's what I'm about now. It's all, it's switched and now it's being of service.

Starting point is 01:55:09 I tell people, they say, you get nervous, they go, no, because I'm a service to the people out there. I'm not of service to my ego. I don't need that anymore. I don't need the number. I love it dude. I love it. My wife left with a cult leader. My wife left suddenly and our family were dealing with it and my, the irony is my dad was a cult leader running, you will run.

Starting point is 01:55:34 You are so interesting. You're such an interesting guy. You have crazy ass stories. Crazy. My nickname is Shu. Only you. I's less. My nickname is shoe. Only you, shoe. Only you. I love it. I go my book that only you, Sue. Well, thank you for doing this, this almost our 15 minute interview. And, uh, it's almost an hour. When does it go up? I'm sorry. I just, it was a great conversation.

Starting point is 01:55:58 And I hope that if you listen this, you're in the LA, Southern California area. If there's still tickets available, grab it. I'm excited to see and work with both everybody in the show and whoever the guest spot is. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So thank you for coming on. I'm not sure if we're gonna have some highlights from some other episodes. If so, hang out for the highlights, that the tell.o'nc.o, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. I. to. I. I. I. I. too. I. too. too. I's. too. I's. I's. too. too. I'm too. too. too. too. too. I's. too. too. too. to too. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too. I. I. I. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoooooooooooooooo. the too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the end of this interview. And if not, thank you guys. Go to Sam Tripoli.com for all

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Starting point is 01:56:54 All these guys call in and just wish us luck. People love this show. Johnny, do you think it's a big show for celebrities. Johnny, do you think it's it's the fact that we've had so many celebrities on the show is why we made into the top 200 of comedy on the podcast? Two weeks in a row. Two weeks in a row. After a lifetime of murder and destruction, now I'm mostly listening to podcasts. My favorite is very podcast. Without Furturada. Let me welcome you to Broken Cipoli and Johnny Woodard. Yeah.

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Starting point is 01:57:48 I'm all in. We got juicy Johnny and sandwich tripley. Is that because I'm fat AI George Bush? Well, his legacy is done. the word is George Bush is drinking a lot. Oh really? Because Dick Chene worried about his legacy. Oh yeah well his legacy is done. He can't even go to a game without people moving. Yeah now he's drinking hard. He's hitting the sauce. His granddaughter still looked like they got the downs. Like are they hot downs people? Have you ever seen the Bush.

Starting point is 01:58:16 No I have granddaughters? They look like hot down. They look like hot downs. Have you ever seen the bush. No I have. No I have. No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It the the the the their. It their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their he. he. he's he's he. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He. He's. He's. He. He's. He. He's. He's. He's. He's he. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's drinking. He's drinking. th. th. th. th. th. th. he's drinking. He's drinking. He's drinking. He's he's he's he's he. He's th. He's daughter. Sorry. His daughters are kind of cute. They look like hot downs chicks. Have you seen this like in flux of hot downs? Oh, I mean only from XG's Instagram. Yeah, right? Yeah, I mean, no, they're not bad. Oh, yeah, come on. That one looks like. That one looks. to. the one. tooo. they. too. the thoo. the thoo. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I mean. I th looks hot down. She just looks like George Bush with a wig on. No, she looks like, look at that. Come on, dude. She looks like George. Doesn't look like the hottest down's. She looks like the hottest down you've ever seen? Look at this. Look at a little close. Yeah, the one's hot. She looks like her father. Okay. Johnny. you have your story and I have mine guys. I don't even know when this is coming out. When's coming out? Just sometime. Sometime. Hopefully tomorrow. We're trying guys. Daddy had to go on the road and rock San Diego. Had great shows. Fridays was weird. They're like I don't know why there's not a ton of people here. Friday. Friday. Friday. Two great shows. Thursday. Were you worried going into Saturday? I mean like, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:59:30 man. You know, I am who I am, dog. You know, people want to get shredded. But I do get blown away when I get off stage and the staff is like, great show, bro. Because I am trying to start a riot. Every time I'm on stage. I am trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to push the to push the the the the the to push the the to push the the the the to push their to push their to push to push to push to push their the staff is like, great show, bro. Because I am trying to start a riot every time I'm on stage. I am trying to push it with the... I'm not trying to be edgy, I'm not edge lord. I'm just being really honest and the truth scares people. What if they do, what if you do start a riot something? Hey man? Would that secretly? Yeah, I mean like sometimes I remember when we had we talked about the interracial couple who was mad of my gay jokes and I was literally like dude today's the day we find out if craft my guy is real. Which one were you more worried about the woman? Oh update update. I just passed my first test in jujitsu to get my I have two more till I get my first stripe.

Starting point is 02:00:25 Hey, we're naked shoke. Bro! Mexicans are so cool. They love to help you with Jiu-Jitsu. All Mexicans? Well, all these in the class, they're really nice. It is all Mexicans. It's just Mexican.

Starting point is 02:00:43 Is that a lot of Mexicans doing Juj great. It's just Mexicans. Are a lot of Mexicans doing Jujitsu or is it just the area? Dude, it's like Mexicans love two things. Jiu Jiu-Jitsu and conspiracies. Tenth plan is perfect for that. Doesn't worry you that they're all coming over the border learning combat skills? No dude, because they're the shit. They really are great though. I'm bad. Sounds like a right. It sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. Sounds. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thei, their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. their. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thxxxxxxi, th, th, thi, big ones, little ones, take ones. They all got one thing I'll tell about Mexicans, they got tree trunks for legs. Nobody ever talks about that. That's because they work hard. They have thick, freaking legs, bro. When they lock pain city do population you population you are Mexican so as culture go they have like the best they have a really cool culture they do have a cool culture Mexican chicks are like a white

Starting point is 02:01:33 women are gonna get upset but Mexican chicks are a little better in terms of like the Jesus thing right they can be they can love the Lord and be a freak yeah yeah like they can love the Lord they'll like. Yeah, like they, like, white women, it's either one or the other. They incorporate, and like, they have like dirty tattoos that are the cross, you know. Like Mexican chicks think it's their job to get the job done. Right? They have like, white women are like, I don't like that. I don't like that, uh, I like that music too that they list to with the, you know, like they

Starting point is 02:02:05 play the Dodger games. Oh, dude, how much ass does that guy get? Oh, that big guy that runs that? The fluffy looking dude? Yeah, he crush. He just sings and everyone dances. Well, that's where he women going in and out just put me a match on the floor and a lot of gay Rays the women are like no with the hat on With the hat on you need the hat on yeah, I see only way I need a whole time he's just going

Starting point is 02:02:33 Ha ha a yeah, yeah, I got married. Is that what that's called? Yeah, yeah, just dude Marriachi is the jam? You know, I love the Marriachi is you know, you know, you know, you the the the the the the the the the the the the thachi is the the thachi is the the the the that's. You the that's. You the that. the that's. the the the that's. that. that. that. that's th, is that's that's that. Mari, is that's. Mari, is, that's, you that's, you that's, you that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's that's is that's is that's is that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th is th. th is the the th. th. th. the th. the th. th. that that that that that that. that. that's that that, you need the that, you need the the th. You know I love the Marriott. I love it. I really do like it. Like anytime I'm in an Uber with a Mexican guys playing that shit, I'm like crank it, bro. Do Marriott. Because it sounds like your grandpa singing about love and what he's really singing about is just like you bet you're a drug mule you better get that coke into the country. Cut in people's head off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind. It kind. It kind. It kind. It kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's. It's. It's it's. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it sounds. It's it sounds. It's it sounds. It's it sounds. It's it. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's. It's it's. It's it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It sounds. It's kind. It sounds. It's kind. It sounds. It's kind. It sounds. It sounds. It sounds. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It'sthink that's not the main guy, bro. The main guy is thick. He looks like fluffy and you know he just shreds. They're like, we can't put the fat guy on. The fat guy's the lead, dude.

Starting point is 02:03:15 Where's the, where's the big thu? I'm really upset. What if this is like a mandela effect? What if this is the man man man man man man man man the man the man is the man is the man is the man is the man is th is th is th is th is th is th is the Mandela effect? What if he's never been? What if there's really no fat guys? That would be... Look, they don't even show them! What if this guy got fired? Gotcha!

Starting point is 02:03:33 Gotcha! Three, one! Oh, there is! Oh, there it is! And here's a quick sneak peek of conspiracy social club. Enjoy. Well, what happens is museums get duped. It happens all the time. They get duped by NASA. That's what happened. They get duped by Cod. Yeah, it's like, hey, here's this moon rock. Oh yeah, it's just shitty wood. I don't know. NASA has moon rock.

Starting point is 02:04:06 Brian, you are. So, so there's an interesting story out there where you look this up, Dylan. Wife of a theastron who passed away had a piece of moonrock and she needed money so she was auctioned. Do you know what happened, Brian? Swat showed up and took the moon Rock. Moon Rock can't be in some million hands. Moonrock has to stay with NASA and the scientists that know better. All right guys, real quick before we're done, we want to tell you about all of our affiliates is a great way to support the show.

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Starting point is 02:06:25 You don't have my accounts in major banks. I know a lot of people when there was a, you know, after the Silicon Valley bank and what happened to FTX and silver gate a bank I used to to wire for Bitcoin. After they went under, people started pulling out money from regional banks and putting them in the larger banks. And I thought, well, have you ever heard th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thu thi the thea tho tho tho tho tho the the the the. the. the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thu. thu. that that thate. thate thate thate. thate the the the the thean. to to thean. to to to thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thea. thea the larger banks. And I thought, well, have you ever heard of Washington Mutual? Have you ever heard of Lehman Brothers? Be careful. You know, there was people that thought those banks were too big to fail as well. But they got gobbled up. So, you know, always be skeptical of the bank.

Starting point is 02:06:55 I'm not saying don't have a bank. You definitely need one. Those are people. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. That was. the investment. That was. the investment. the investment. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the investment. the investment. thi. th. th. th. th. th. tho. the investment. the investment. th. their. their. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. th.. But yeah, I mean, Sam, like for your age, Sam, if you went to an advisor, and you know, this is according to modern portfolio theory, he'd probably say put 50% of your money in stocks, 20% in bonds, 10% to 10% in gold or per metals, 10% cash, because you know, in a money market fund, or in your case, you know, under your pillow, and maybe 10% in like real estate. 10% in real estate. That's 10% of real estate.

Starting point is 02:07:37 In LA, good luck on that. Yeah, 10%. Well, real estate could be investing in, you know, shopping malls, hospitals, you know, storage, you could, you know, that real estate storage spaces. We talked about that in a show. That's, I mean, storage, public storage is a great way to earn passive income. You know, I mean, that's, and that biggest problem with with public storage is finding land now to put it on. Because there's not a lot of it.

Starting point is 02:08:08 And you made a great point with, you know, shit, banks love us to buy houses or real estate, especially with that nice 8% interest rate right now. Well, yeah, at least it's not in 1980. You know, Paul Volker, the head of the Fed at the time the inflation was so bad. there th, th, there the there th, the there there the there th, there th, there there th, there there there th, there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's there's there's not there's not there's not there's there's there's not there's not there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. there's not the, the, their the. the. the. the. the. the. It's not not not not there's not not not the. It's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not least it's not 1980 you know Paul Volker the head of the Fed at the time the inflation was so bad they had interest rates at 17% when you bought a home but I will say for those who are studying the Fed and interest rates hikes what you may not know is Jerome Powell has actually moved it faster than anybody in history it's just not that number yet. Paul Volker did it over like five or six years, you know, through Jimmy Carter and into Ronald Reagan. They finally

Starting point is 02:08:50 caught it somewhat under control. You know, there was a big separation of value when when dollar was taken off the gold standard. So, I agree with you. I mean, I think you should have a belty balance. Even with me in the precious metals business, I don't tell the people to put all their eggs in one basket. I just know that I know history, I know that when you have a fiat currency, when it's reaching its end, when the currency's been debased, people, it's called Gresham's law. You have Gresham's law, which is bad money drives good money out of the system, and it goes into hiding. Well, it comes back when the, you know, the fiat currency, the debased currency has run its course. And right now, you know, we have something called Triffon's dilemma. I don't know if you ever heard this was in 1960s. They had an economist

Starting point is 02:09:36 named Robert Trifin in front of the Congress, and he was going over like, what happens when, because we've stocked all these central banks around the world, that he knew we had debased our coins. We had taken the silver out of the coinage after JFK. And his question, his dilemma was, what happens when these dollars are... We go deep, home boy. Eric, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 02:10:07 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There's, you just move my mind. Tim foil hack.

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