Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #683: The Oklahoma City Bombing with Eddie Bravo and Jose Galison

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Good morning, swarm and welcome the tip- Good morning swarm and welcome. You just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Good morning, Swarm and welcome the Timfall Hat. You know I am, you know, I'm here to do. I'm here to. Roe.

Starting point is 00:00:53 Join me as always, Xavier Greer and I'm the ones too juicy Johnny, J. Nice Johnny Woodard. How are you guys? Feeling good. Loving America.... th- th- th- th-J- th- th-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-you-ni-you-yo-yo-wi-wo-wi-wo-wo-wo-wo-wo-wo-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-wi-werewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewerewice-wice-wice-wi-wi-wi-wi-wo-wo-wo-wo-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-woo'-wo'-woo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo'-wo-wo-wo'-wo'- Feeling good, loving America, loving America, oh hell yeah. Nice. Thank you, dude. That was great, was it.

Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah, I think that was. Yeah, I'm going to do my own doc where I just make up songs I'm never going to put out, but I just sit there and sing them. Guys, someone will buy that mixtape. Guys, we have a great show for you. With the return of Mount Crushmore's own. that, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, to to to to guys some will buy that mix thing guys we have a great show for you with the return of Mount Crushmore's own Eddie Bravo yeah okay too late on that and then we have from the the tower gang Jose Garzon I think that's how you pronounce Garzon he's gonna be joining us and they join us and they knock it out of the park. It's a great conversation. We get into the O.K.C. bombing. We get into a lot of stuff.

Starting point is 00:01:51 Timothy McVeigh, O.K.C., Cleanz. All that stuff. It's all there. It's an action packed hour, two hours, two hours. So we hope you guys enjoy this. Again, go to Sam Tripoli. to the dot com. Everything is there. My dates, right now I only have one date up, but we have a bunch of dates coming. We have this Saturday, we're at the end of the South Bay in Torrance, Eddie Bravo, Xavier Grero and myself will all be live here. Then we have, I have a comedy chaos that's going to be on July on the on the th. I on th. I two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two chaos that's going to be on July 11th the second Tuesday we're putting that together and then we have August 12th we haven't even put it up yet on the on the website we're in Connecticut August 12th that's right come see us we're very excited about that let me get you the name of that because that would be professional. But we're going to be at the Broad Book, Brooke Opera House, August 12th, Eddie Brough

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Starting point is 00:05:28 All right. And if you're, check out a new broken Sam at Johnny A.Word on Instagram. Yeah, check it out guys. And just if you're looking for free radio, go to the Sam Tripp. hats and all things Sam and then we also have all my all my stand-up specials are there all right man enjoy this episode because it it's fire All right, let's get into a very excited have them back in studio as always one of my favorite people my best friend ever Eddie Bravo Yo, Eddie's very excited. We got a show coming up this Saturday night We're gonna be at the end of the South Bay and Torrance. We're doing two shows, but you buy one ticket

Starting point is 00:06:20 You get both shows you get stand-up. Then we do a little Q&A after and then Also we have a Connecticut show coming up that we have. th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. th. to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. Eddie. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. the thi. the the the th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the they. the then we do a little Q&A after, and then also we have a Connecticut show coming up that we have not been pushing and I'm sure they're freaking out. Didn't we change the dates on that? No, not on Connecticut. You wanted to change Dallas and Texas, right? Yes, because you're going to Japan. That's September.

Starting point is 00:06:43 Okay. this one's an August. Okay. Yes, we're gonna be in Brooke Broadbrook at the Opera House. Tickets are available at Sam Triply.com and that is August 12th and we're looking for an August 13th day in San in New York City as well. How's that gone? We're looking. Okay, because we're looking for the right size. Okay. What about the place we did last time? It's booked. Okay. It's booked. We'll get something. We'll get something going. And then of course we were talking before the show. We got look into it. How's that going? My podcast? Yeah. Oh, it's going great. I guess. I put out episodes. I? I just fucking. the the the the the t o. t o. t o. t o. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. to. to. tod. tod today. to to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the place. the place. the place. the place. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. today. ti. to. ti. the the the the place. episodes every week, I just fucking turn them out. I don't pay attention to reviews or what people are saying, I don't give a fuck.

Starting point is 00:07:29 I just put it out. If you like it, you like it, if you don't like it, there's plenty of other shit out there you could watch. Yeah, I love it, dude. Well, you just had Alex Jones on always down. I just text him and I go hey you want to do a podcast today and he's down. He's down. He is down. Yeah I love that dude. And he's got to be doing a victory lap right now because you know with the gay frogs he's got everyone like the one thing they held against him. Yeah. Now it's it's turned out. It's actually true. I I I I I I I I. Yeah. Yeah. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he. he. he. he. he. he. he's. He's. He's down. He's down. He's. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's now. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's down. He's down. He's. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. He's down. Heue. Yeah. And it explains, I mean, it's a chemical in pesticides that starts with an A as a teen or something.

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Starting point is 00:08:52 fucking killer podcast called Tower Gang. It gave me a lot of hope for the youth and what they're doing in comedy because they pulled no punches. I'm very excited. Ho-I they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th. th. th. tho. tho. Before thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo th. Before. Before we go. Before we go. Before we go. Before we go. Before we're they're they're no punches. I'm very excited to have on. Please welcome Jose Galson. How are you brother? Doing great glad to have you on. Do you want to apologize to the visual. I normally have a nicer backdrop. Worst green screen ever. I know I had a commandeer when the kiddos rooms but I'm excited. It's my birthday. I'm on with randomly with Eddie Bravo and Sam Tripoli so this is quite the day. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, brother. How old are you? 32. Where do you live? Where do you live? What city? Like camp area.

Starting point is 00:09:29 So if I do cut out, it might be a thunderstorm. So you can't come to our, you can't come to the Tinfeldhatch this Saturday in Torrance. Fock. Yeah, I'm not. Sam Triply.com and come have fun. We got some new stuff. Eddie's been crushing it out there every time I see him it gets better and better and yeah man every time. Thank you. I appreciate that. It's real fun to watch. You're getting your your Bambi legs are getting sturdier and you go out there and and and. Well you know because you go out you kind of like oh is this going to go well? You know, now you're just like, you just, you're in it, if you feel like it's not going

Starting point is 00:10:08 well, you move to something else, and you do really well every time. So it's very fun to watch. The secret is not smoking weed all day. Because you smoke weed all day. You think about your sad and how you're going to go and you and you and you over and you over and you over and you over and you over and you over and you over and you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over an over an over an over an over an over an over an overananaly. So. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to go. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. to. to. to. th. I. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. I. th. I. I. I. th. I'm. I th. I'm. No weed all day. No coffee. No caffeine all day. No caffeine all day. No day drinking, no nothing. And take just try to nap all day. Just get all that tired shit. I'm in bed all day thinking about bitches. Sleep and, sleeping, sleeping. I did a show with Ching Go Bling in Houston at the House of Blues last Friday. And that day I just slept all day. I never left the hotel.. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the their the the the the the the the the the the the that day I just slept all day. I never left the hotel. Never. And then by the time it's show time I'm so tired of being tired. Yeah. And then as I'm driving into the show,

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Starting point is 00:13:15 I don't want to talk anymore so Jose I real quick before we get into the okay C bombing because I'm very excited to talk to you about this tell us a little bit about yourself and where where where where where where where where where the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to their. their. their. to to their. to to to to to to to to to to to to their. the. to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to. the. the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. te. th. th. th. the. the. th. the. the. the. th. the. the. C bombing because I'm very excited to talk to you about this. Tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you and a little bit about Tower Gang. Yeah, I actually have two podcasts, one of which is the Tower Gang One, which is my offensive comedy podcast. That's done with me, Toad, Cole, it's a whole group of guys, Clint Russell of Liberty, Lockdown has another show as well. He's great.

Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah, he literally, he just today announced he got signed with Tim Poole. He's going to be on two days a week. I think he's going to be like the, he's going to be running a new show for him. Yeah, it's huge. So it's a big deal. A lot of big stuff. We have my podcast. We kind of all, most of us have our own separate little projects. And my podcast is No Way

Starting point is 00:14:14 Jose. It's on YouTube, all the audio podcasters odyssey as well. And in that one, it's like more my outlet for like serious content. Generally speaking that's kind of my outlet for like serious content. Generally speaking it's just what the hell is interesting to me at the time. It's just kind of my outlet for that. Generally speaking that's going to be things like political analysis, libertarian or anarchist theory and also conspiracies typically ones that focus on things like government corruption. I do like some of the crazy stuff you all get into like remote viewing and stuff like that. But that's not th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. I. I'm, th. Like, th. Like, that, th. Like, that, I spend my effort I just listen to that and for that when it pops up. Well this is where you are now.

Starting point is 00:14:49 That's where that's where we all start. We all start with like JFK and 9-11 and then you just start going a little deeper and you're like what else are they lying to us about and then it eventually brings you to God and then you start getting to to to to the God, why are they trying to detach us from all this from us and God and inserting these people who seem like not very good people, why are they doing that? And that's where it goes. I always say conspiracy leads to spirituality, but with that said, um, I, you've been, you and I have been trying to make this episode happen for a while, just schedules didn't work and whatever, blah, blah, blah. But you know, you've been, you've been very vocal about, you know, the OKC bombing, what

Starting point is 00:15:34 that represents and what people aren't talking about. So, you know, I'm very excited we could finally have this conversation. I'm glad Eddie could have joined us and I know he has some thoughts on it too. So where do you want to begin? I guess for me, I'd just go ahead and start with like kind of what sucked me into it and kind of I guess it gives you a backdrop of where I'm coming from. And I'd also be interested in hearing where Eddie came from to because I don't know his story behind OKC. kind of what dragged him in. But for me, it was, I found, if you guys are familiar with a Twitter user, a at crack kind of sore or jinx, I came across one of his edits, which was a Terranseeky edit at

Starting point is 00:16:09 at one point, and it just sucked me in. It was beautiful. It was, you know, good music. I kind of went through the story of the individual named Terranseeky, who was one of, if not the first responders, who mysteriouslyously roughly a year later ended up dead. There are lots of people who seem to think he may have known some stuff. It was a considered a suicide and that's kind of been the thing I've made my biggest name off of is kind of, you know, kind of trying to promote that story. Terence specifically, I think it's a good hook to get people interested in it. But yeah, once I started looking into Terrence Yiki, that inevitably got me looking into the Oklahoma City bombing.

Starting point is 00:16:48 And from there, I want to find an expert, because I'm by no means an expert. I found, I was recommended by a few people, this individual named Richard Booth, who is, essentially the cryptkeeper of the public Oklahoma City bombing archive there is over at the Libertarian Institute at Libertarian Institute.org. Oc.C. He's the one who spent roughly a decade or so accumulating all these documents and putting them together to where it's like a basically like a Google search engine where you can just type in whatever you want, missing surveillance tapes, whatever, and then you can find him on. And thrown the thoe, thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. the one, thrown. thi. the one's, thi. they. thrown. the one, they. they. they. the one's, the one's, the one's, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. thr. te, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. they. they. No Way Oase show. You can find that, go to playlist if you're on YouTube or you might have to manually search them up. But it's what really happened to Oakley, Omaha City bombing.

Starting point is 00:17:30 I've covered other stuff too, but we did about a eight part series, did roughly about 15 hours breaking it down. I do want to emphasize I am not the expert. I've done, you know, covered it a bunch, I've spoke to a bunch of experts, so I would recommend anyone listen to me. Don't take me as a be all and all. Make sure to go check out my series or other places. Go check out the Oklahoma City Archive that I told you about the bombing archive and you know verify everything I say here. But yeah, and you's the suck me down this road and that's kind of where I'm at now. I was telling Eddie and the guys about how I did a deep conspiracy rewind on the George Bush, Bill Clinton and Ross Perot debate.

Starting point is 00:18:21 And just when you watch this debate with you know hindsight 2020 and you kind of know what's coming you you see it in a different light and Bill Clinton's getting his dick I mean he's not doing well in this debate like he looks scared he's not he's very like he's got this like fucking doe-eyes like he's like deer in front of a you know in from a car about to get hit and he's he's just getting lit up George Bush obviously is like and it's so interesting when you kind of studied George Bush at this point because like you

Starting point is 00:18:54 remember the narrative on Bush was a he was a wuss right he was a wimp he was light on on the military in reality he was a Nazi who fucking is a gay pedophile, and he's like a fucking try to assassinate two presidents. He got one of them. You know, like, that's the reality about George Bush, but you look up, he's lizard teeth. Like, it's crazy when you watch this. And how they're presenting this, like,

Starting point is 00:19:19 pro wrestling shit, but you watch and you like, the party just wishes you could have a time machine and go back and yell at like what is coming. And part of this is like, it's like the O.K.C. bombing, which is the 9-11 of the 90s, right? Like, this is, this is the beginning of them stealing, taking away our personal rights. And why did they do that? and what happened their, and, and the, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, the. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, taking away our personal rights. And why did they do that and what happened there? And this is again the first time, just where we start to piece together things after we see this pattern,

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Starting point is 00:20:32 and now you start to understand it. So I want to start out real quick on kind of what your opinion is why they hit OKC and if you want to jump in you can anytime. Why do you think they hit OKC? Me? Yeah. Really I'm open to either I'll give you my honest opinion but I'll be I'll let you guys know it is somewhat based on speculation and kind of pattern noticing. I do lean towards the theory that this was essentially what many people call you know domestic, domestic gladio, or you could say like kind of like a Northwoods or something along those lines. I do lean towards that, but I will admit that really aside from kind of, if you're looking at the facts, really

Starting point is 00:21:17 you requires a little bit of paranocing and a little bit of, I don't know, realistic somewhat in kind of the individuals, some of the actors there are. But there is, at the very least, this was criminal ineptitude and that's putting it insanely lightly, because at the very least, you can see a lot of the entities that were involved in the bombing were infiltrated to the gills with different intelligence, there was SPLC informants, there was an Fibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibib, there there were there were their their their their their their their their their their their their infi, their infil their infill, their their their infi, their, their infi, their in their in their in their, their, their, their, their infi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, there was ATF informants, there was an FBI operation going on, there were former CIA agents that they're involved in this whole plot. So, you know, once you add up all these, there's something weird going on. So, at the very least, there's there's the criminal ineptitude the

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Starting point is 00:22:35 So why is it that one area is caved in more than the rest? Does that really consistent with a truck bomb which for one there are are are are the the the the the the the the the that are, that that are, that that are, that are, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th is is the is the is the is the is the is toda? today is today is today is today is today is tha.au. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau. thau Is that really consistent with a truck bomb, which for one, there are people who doubt it even has that sort of explosive power. Okay, I don't know. What was the official story? And what do you think is the real story? Well, the official story is that Timothy Ve on April 19, 1995, drove up by himself with a yellow rider truck and walked away and it exploded next to the Murrah building and that's what caused the damage you see there. Now what I really believe is I'm I how do I put this I hold on real quick before you go into why and not only did why did he do it was the narrative was that he was getting back because of Waco he was upset about Waco and he's I got there the

Starting point is 00:23:31 government but they did a Waco that's that's huge right there so it shuts people up right right that right right questioning Waco yeah right I want to do a Waco episode because I don't know that much about it. Oh yeah, we'll do it. It's got a horror. He's your guy. Waco's got it. I mean, that whole thing is insane. But go ahead.

Starting point is 00:23:52 So they're saying that Timothy McVeigh did it. He had a van. It blew it up. He parked it under and then he tried to get away and then he got caught and apparently he did it because he was upset about wake up. He was a conspiracy theorist about wake conspiracy there so don't forget. Kill a bunch of domestic terrorists. They didn't come up with that term yeah but that was so what do you think happen and what was the reason? The Illuminati blew that up. If we're looking for a reason, if we're going to take, like I said, I'm partial to either, you know, some realm of like, say some sort of, oops, see, we infiltrated these groups, made

Starting point is 00:24:33 them really big, kind of created this, essentially this fake, you know, uprising of a right wing militia movement, and, or I guess somewhat of Israel real but the violent white power aspects of it were definitely a lot of fed stuff. They obviously infiltrated that or elevated that threat by being involved. Now they could have like I said it could have been a sting operation that they just fell through the last moment I find that a little silly but whatever we can give that to them there's a possibility but on the other end if they made it happen my hop as opposed to the the the the the the to let it the the to let it the to the the to the to the the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. I the. I the. the. that to them as a possibility. But on the other end, if they made it happen, my hop as opposed to let it happen,

Starting point is 00:25:09 now there were reports from, I think it was Ruth Graham, and I forget the name of the other individual, where they said they saw what looked like individuals, believe it was the morning, or maybe it was a day prior, forget the specifics. They saw what look like people hanging up, or, or, the morning or maybe it was a day prior, forget the specifics. They saw what looked like people hanging up explosives or I guess maybe an explosive but kind of like thin wiring things that would mean the way they described is it sounds like these are individuals placing you know some sort

Starting point is 00:25:36 of like plastic C4 or something I'm not demolitions expert but the way it sounds to me it sounds very suggestive like someone placing charges this was in the in garage, kind of like on columns and stuff, which obviously those would be the places you want to take out. Now, why would they do this? I think this, you need to look at other things like, you know, if anyone's familiar with things like Operation Gladio or Operation Phoenix, or probably most notable things would be s like Northwoods, which was kind of the JFK

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Starting point is 00:30:29 because most of those documents likely would probably be backed up elsewhere. Maybe I wouldn't be surprised that they also, but a lot of people try to extrapolate from that that oh they blew up their documents as opposed to human life. That won't surprise me at all. But now so far is this like actually being the reason for the bombing that seems a bit far-fetched to me. Although I don't know, maybe it is. Have you heard of Cody Snodgrass?

Starting point is 00:31:02 That is another threat. I have not tugged on too deeply. I've been mean to for a long time. I know a lot of people talk about him. Uh, and the little bit I've heard, I'm kind of interested, but there's a lot, definitely a lot of reading I need to kind of like vet it and verify. He's got interviews. I don't know this guy. I've heard a couple of. talking about. Yeah this guy Cody Snodgrass he's he's saying this is what he's saying he's a former CIA asset operator or whatever that would get hired to blow shit up like in different countries they give him like whatever a million bucks go handle this a million bucks go handle this this is this what he's saying I'm fucking know if he's I've heard I've heard his interviews fucking fascinating. I don't know if it's real

Starting point is 00:31:49 But he says he's a you know you know there's a lot of motherfuckers like him out there former military Explosives experts snipers what they they that's me they hired he was he was offered him a million dollars to blow up. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so so so so so so????, they?, they? they? their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. There, th. th. th. th. th. he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's I's I's I's I's I've I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I's I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I's I I's I's I I's I's I's I's I's I've I've he, I've he. He, I've he. He's I've he. He's I've he. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's he's he's he's he's he's he. He's he's he's that's they hired he was he was offered a million dollars to blow up yeah okay see yeah yeah yeah on the website it's called the ugly truth yes this what I'm talking about so he's saying he when he got offered to be involved in blowing up the Oklahoma City building that he declined he's like I don't fucking blow shit up in my own country just you know fuck shit up in my own country just, you know, fuck shit up in Angola or Chile, but not a... So he knew once he declined that he'd have to go underground and hide for a while. So he did. He disappeared. And he also said some too.

Starting point is 00:32:36 He said one, it was very interesting, which made me believe him a little bit more. I don't believe anybody 100%, but he would say, he said that when anytime he would get hired and he would get, you know, whatever they would give him, let's say a million dollars to kill somebody or blow up a building or whatever, he would also have to bring in a couple guys to flank him to protect him in case, in case he got, you know,

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Starting point is 00:33:46 and put them over there. So obviously 9-11, they blew up, what blew up? All those Merrill Lynch offices with all those records from those security things from the Soviet Union 10 years before. Like, I forget what they're called. I don't the the they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're called. I don't even understand the financial process, but when the Soviet Union fell in 91, a lot of American interests came in and they got these security treasuries that like 10 year whatever, and there's there's a task forces out there like tax to investigate these Security bonds or whatever the fuck they are so at

Starting point is 00:34:27 2001 that's 10 years They had a blow up the records because there were that was like the Eldorado pass for there we go and that were looking in it so building six Yeah, exactly so they I think building seven was a distraction now that I'm starting to think like look because all the different camera angles of That were that's a five camera shoot shoot. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's a five th. th. th. th. that's th. That's th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the th. th. th. th. the. tho. the. tho. th. th. th. th. th a distraction. Now that I'm starting to think, like, look, because all the different camera angles of tower. So, it's a five camera shoot. Yeah, yeah, so probably, you said, let's get everyone talking about tower seven. And then meanwhile, tower six and tower four, that was the real shit.

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Starting point is 00:35:14 So, Cody, There was a couple reasons. That was a giant class action lawsuit against the Pentagon for the Gulf War depleted uranium cancer. That everybody was getting cancer from like a special, they had a name for it, like desert storm cancer or something. They had a special name for the kind of cancer that all these military people were getting from depleted uranium. That's like the thing was Gulf War syndrome? Yes, yes. Yes, Gulf War syndrome.

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Starting point is 00:36:26 And then they get Timothy McVeigh, some M.K. Ulter military crazy guy, they're not going to rely on this. They needed to blow up the records. So they bring him in, he probably thinks he's blowing shit up like, like a little van. Meanwhile, they rigged the building to blow everything up and then they blame it on him and then they confuse everybody throw a couple Muslims say oh they're like there's all these reports of like people saying oh we saw some dark-skinned Muslims with them to terrorists so everyone's going folk terrorists he was working with people who wasn't alone the government wants you to think he was acting alone

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Starting point is 00:53:49 court they're gonna they're gonna put all sorts of charges on you and there's fucking nothing you can do you're fucked I mean to me when I hear that I'm like maybe everybody should shut the fuck up I mean to argument is if he really was a rapist and a sex trafficker, would he be on every podcast talking? I don't know. Yeah. Would you? I mean, if anybody here, if they had anybody here, if they're any crazy things like that, thrown, would you out here be like, oh, doing podcast and dropping shit?

Starting point is 00:54:16 I mean, like that. Cosby was. There's something just off about it, though. If you look at enough of these things, there's something super off about that whole situation. Well, I agree with Eddie in that they have been trying to make examples of people to scare people from talking. Alex Jones. But they also co-opted that there's been a really positive movement to try to get men back engaged in society, you know, and feeling good good good to to to to tothey kind of took him and used him as a way to take that whole thing into a darker, like negative energy kind of space.

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Starting point is 00:57:47 Same thing when there's oil spills, like when the oil tanker in the ocean, you know, spills oil or they blow something up, right there locally, yes, all the marine life is fucked, but over time that shit washes off, and I don't believe it affects the overall climate. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:58:07 The world is so fucking big to think that an oil spill is going to fucking cause climate change. I don't believe that shit. But they run with it. So I don't know what the fuck to believe. I don't know of RK, RFK, when I heard him on Joe Rogan's podcast for three fucking hours, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi he didn't just bury the COVID vaccine. He buried all vaccines. Yeah. If he was, if he was a fucking, if he was a, if he was a, if he was a, if he was a, I'm, if he was, if he was, if, I was, I go, the fuck up about the measles vaccine. I thought, we don't need to go there. People already into polio. Shut the fuck. And what's really? But he went, the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. If, if he was, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if, if, if, if he was, if, if he was, if, if he was, if he was, if, if he was, if, if he was, if, if, if he was, if, if, if, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, if he was, th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th into that. Why are you going into polio? Shut the fuck. But he went into all that's crushed. That episode crushes Big Farmer. So I don't know,

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Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, he's trying to act like I got no money and like everyone's just bringing up the receipts and every time he makes a statement, they just, the internet just annihilates him and he's never gonna be able to go up there and debate and all these people like they're labelling Kennedy a conspiracy theirs they're showing their true colors all it is his name called this is a guy that got Monsanto's to pay out huge amount of money because of the poisons he was putting in their fucking their weed killer stuff I mean like this guy is got the receipts I think I used to think Joe Rogan was the the th is the th again Joe Roge the th is the th is the the the th. the th. the the the to to the the they they. they. they. they. to to to to the the to they. Oh they. I they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was their their their they. they. they. they. I was they. they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was they. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was today. tre. tre. true. true. true. true. true. true. I'm. I'm. true. I'm. I'm. I'm. t. t. t. I'm. this guy is got this guy's got the receipts. I think I used to think Joe Rogan was the greatest at remembering every name of everything and every camp. Dude jam. RFK. Jr. is insane. Now what I think RFK Jr. is doing amazing is also going on as many pockets as

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Starting point is 01:01:05 Because Alex Jones got railroaded for saying, there's chemicals that are turning frogs gay, right? He got railroaded for that. And then RFK Jr. without even bringing up Alex Jones. He just saying, yeah, they're changing these this chemical that's in pesticides what's it starts with an a like it's like atrazine maybe something like that yeah what the call I'm making sure says atrazine leads to azT you because it

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Starting point is 01:02:08 talking about the chemicals that are obviously possibly making men possibly more feminine. And on the other hand, you have individuals like Harley Pasternak who are influencing celebrities like Ellen Page and yay and all sorts of other people and now we have this perception from the top of look how big this whole trans thing is and how does this get inflated you know and how does this affect perception you know? Yeah. No you're totally 100% right you can watch every single step by step by step and again it gets back to not believe in your eyes not believing your experience your ears or your experiences and that's what they want you to do. That's this whole thing, man.

Starting point is 01:02:45 It's just like, they're all, it's, everything is demoralizing. That's their whole thing. This is why I tell people when I get these black pill people coming on who are insanely great researchers. It's like, do you see how this is a go there because it's not data. It's like they can't get into the not data part and it's just like this explains it all why they're doing all this shit. So I want to get back to O.K.C. real quick. Okay and he's got to be perfect. So that's a conspiracy. Does he really have to be or did he get a tack

Starting point is 01:03:21 that we're getting too close to the truth? Or did he get attacks that were getting too close to the truth? Did Soros hit you up and tell you we're getting too close to the truth? So I love this next thing. Let's give the John Doe 2. Who's John Doe 2? John Doe, like I kind of comically was alluding to earlier, that the official narrative is that there was one guy, Timmy Dufay, who got on that rider truck and walked away and exploded and killed roughly 170 people. Well in reality, there were over 20 people, the day of, before and after, that saw Timothy

Starting point is 01:03:54 McVeigh with another individual or individuals. And ironically, the way that Timothy McVeigh got put away, got identified as one of the witnesses, we, they, it was perfectly legit to get them, you know, to get, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, the way that Timothy Vey got put away, got identified as one of the witnesses, we, they, it was perfectly legit to get them, you know, to get him guilty and all that, you know, through court, but all those same people who were saying they saw this McVeigh fellow, also were saying they saw another individual, but we just kind of hand waved away.

Starting point is 01:04:19 A little timeline of events. April, the bombing happened in May. There were internal FBI memos talking about how they were going to put all leads into John Doe 2 into abeyance, which is just a fancy term for don't pursue these leads. And then April, April, May and then June, that's when the FBI kind of came out with their official narrative of, oh, that was just, you know, they kind of, they mis mis mis mis a a a a a their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, to, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th., th. th. th. to, to, to, to, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their, that was just, you know, they kind of, you know, they misremembered or whatever. They essentially imagined this other individual and we just kind of pushed us away. And it was also weird at that time too, where they were doing this kind of like double speak thing where they were saying, no, we're not pursuing that anymore. But then sometimes the press would really push them on, they're like, nope, John Doe doesn't exist. Obviously, John Doe never got identified. He was described as someone roughly kind of like 57 to 510-ish, kind of stocky.

Starting point is 01:05:10 He was described as kind of being very muscular, big bullneck. He's kind of ethnically ambiguous, so that's where some of the Middle Eastern stuff comes from. But he also could have been like a dark-skinned white guy. And yeah, the John Doe, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to to to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. the the to, he. the to, he. to, he. to, he. to, he. the to, he. the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to the the to the the to the the the to the the the the the to the the the to the the to the to the to the to to this guy. He, you know, there's a composite sketch online that you can bring up easily. He's pretty famous, John Doe, too. A lot of people recognize that immediately. But yeah, that was John Doe too for you. That got dropped real quick and it kind of makes you wonder why.

Starting point is 01:05:38 I mean, my opinion is likely it's because it was probably either an informant or an agent or somebody who had information that they didn't want to get out. A quick question, on the witnesses, did anybody ever go back to the witnesses and ask them, like, hey, did you forget? Did someone give you some money to act like you didn't see these people? Because I mean, 20 people you should be able to find at least one of thooto these. I mean I can't give you specifics off top of my head, but yeah, a lot of these people did hold true to their story. I think there was like one guy who later was like, oh yeah, it was one. So, but yeah, a lot of these people stuck to their story.

Starting point is 01:06:11 Never really changed it at all. So, yeah, I mean, I actually recently not too long source for a CNN article and he was best friends with Terrancike or one of his best friends, like one of his better friends, and he also was a John Doe too, I witness. He saw, and he actually, he, you know, as I said over 20, that number may not even be accurate because he made a police report because Stephen Vassarie was a one of the first responders as well. He was a cop at the time, he was a cop at the force with Terranciek, theek, thea. thea. the, the, the, the, the,, you know, was on the force with Terran Siki, and he said he saw at one point before the bomb, he saw a rider truck drive by him, and because he was responding to something else, you know, he was a few blocks away, and he saw what he said, he swears, you know, I forget the exact quote, but something like a hand to God or something like that, you know, I swear there was another person in the rider. to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, truck, truck, to, to, truck, truck, truck, truck, truck, the throwne, the, they, they, truck, and I was, and, they, and I was a they, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they... they. they. they. they. they. the they. the the they. they. the they, they, they, they, they, t wasn't able to provide like a detailed like idea of what he looked like but he knows for a fact there was a second person in the rider

Starting point is 01:07:06 truck and he made a police report and that he never got interviewed by the FBI so that his not that one guy that I interviewed was never included among the the like over 20 people that saw him so it makes you wonder how many other reports were just magically disappeared because another part of Vassar's story is he later years later went to go look through the system because he had access to it to look through past reports and his report was gone and that's not a thing it's supposed to do and that's not a thing it's supposed to happen at least my understanding of how police reports work. The crazy thing is the sketch artist like how the fuck do you that that that th you that's th you th you th you th you th you th you th you th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the th the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to thi thi to thi the thi the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th work. The crazy thing is the sketch artist. Like, how the fuck do you see somebody in a truck pass by?

Starting point is 01:07:50 And then you tell an artist what the fuck that guy looked like? And then he comes up with what he looked like? I'm missing some here. I never really got that. You know, how did you say there was over 20 people. So it was a composite sketch of all their their their their their their their their their their, so it was a composite sketch of all their descriptions. Yeah, but still, how do you describe what a dude look like in your head and then an artist can make it happen? And then you might, and someone might go to jail off of that.

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Starting point is 01:08:34 How about that guy looks like science of the lamb? He's got a science of the lamb mascot. Oh, that is weird. Wow, that's that's that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That, th. That's. That's. That th. thi, th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. That th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. that tha. tha. tha. tha. th a couple of them. Yeah, some of them. Yeah, look up the John Doe one. Maybe, like, they knew exactly what they go here. Here's a picture of him, just draw that moth fuck around. I think that does happen, dude. That's McVeigh, John Doe. You know what I mean?

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Starting point is 01:10:05 it when people go look he got shot twice in the head and then once in the chest and they called it a suicide. Like why would they do? Why would they make it look sloppy? In my opinion you make it look sloppy on purpose to let everybody know dude we could put nine bullets in the the theups. to let everybody know we, wea wea we wea we wea we we- wea wea wea wea wea th, we could we could th, we could th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin' tho, the, the, the, the, tho-in, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin, thin, thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, that to say suicide. You sure you want to keep yipping and yapping? So do you think Jeffrey Epstein that whole thing was just a flex move like, look, this wasn't even suicide? We can, we're just showing you if you fuck around, we can act like a suicide. Why wouldn't you do that? It's like, um, like if you look at cartels and gangsters, you saw a cocaine, cocaine, cocaine, their a cocaine, their a cocaine, their their, their, their, th cocaine, th cocaine, th and th, th, th and th, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, th is just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. We's thi. We's a thi. We's a thi. We're just a thi, thi, thi, thi, rid of someone, they don't disappear him.

Starting point is 01:10:45 They can easily just disappear. They chop them up, put his body parts in a suitcase, chop his tongue off, or chop his dick off and ram it down his throat, put it in a suitcase, and then drop it off for everyone to see. I mean, yeah, the cartel now just really... They're like, dude, are you sure you want to talk? And we're going to do this to you. Like, to disappear that guy would be stupid. No, yeah, no, and you want to chop them up and show them up. to show them up and think that's what, you know, and, and, you know, for people out there that think that everything is rigged and there's just like the elections are all, like, they are rigged.

Starting point is 01:11:32 But there's people that think that elections mean nothing, like, it doesn't matter what you vote. Like, if it didn't matter. Why would they be rigging? Why would they be doing all these layers with all the ballot harvesting? So to me, elections are real, but they're rigged and they got them all under control. You know, whether it's that front line with the machines

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Starting point is 01:12:26 counting the votes it doesn't matter what there's no counting going on it's just it's all for show it's all theater and whoever they want to win is it doesn't matter I don't believe that's the case I believe that there are elections they just rig them they just rig them. They rig them with a... But the elections count. You're saying they're important, and that's why they have to rig them? Exactly. But if they didn't count and it did matter, they wouldn't rig them and they would just,

Starting point is 01:12:53 hey, dude, this guy won. Yeah, but it's all theater. Yeah, if it's all theater. If it's all theater. If it's all theater, if it's all theater, if it's all theater, if it's all theater, if it's all theater, the the. If it's all theater Why are they rigging it? Why are they ballot? Have you seen 20,000 meals? There's a system of ballot harvesting that they do and a bunch of different levels. There's a bunch of different things. With the machines, with the machines like if you filled out your ballot with a Sharpie, it's going to shoot it out and it's going to or whatever like a pencil or whatever like something like either a Sharpie or a pencil doesn't work for the bouts.

Starting point is 01:13:31 So if you're in a Republican area they're going to give Republicans like obviously oh here's a Sharpie fill it out then it shoots it back out. There's different ways to cheat. And then with all the addresses with the registered voters, either they're dead or everyone's using this certain house as an address, like they wouldn't need to do that if it was all just fake. Right?

Starting point is 01:13:57 Like why would they suicide people? Are they, is the body count real with the Clintons, like 600 and whatever it is if all these people that were killed trying th.......... th. to to to to try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. to to to to to to to they to to to to to to to to, is the body count real with the Clintons like 600 and whatever, what, 150 or whatever it is, if all these people that were killed trying to go after the Clintons, trying to put the Clintons in prison, they get suicided. Yeah. Right. Why would they suicide them if it was all a theater? Like it wouldn't matter. Like, why would you pay somebody to kill somebody and hang somebody if you weren't afraid of going to jail? When people get suicided, that means someone's afraid of going to jail.

Starting point is 01:14:30 This guy's getting too close, this killed this moth fucker. Why would they do it if it was all theater? To me, most people are corrupt in the government, but there's good people in the government. If there wasn't a few, the in the government if there wasn't a few there's a few I think Devon Nunes he seems like he's legit cash patel he seems like he's legit Matt Gates Marjorie Taylor Green it seems like they're doing that seem like they could be tricks I don't know but it seems like they're the good there has to be good people in government otherwise there wo there wouldn't be a need to hire a motherfucker 50K to kill this motherfucker. Why are they doing that? The only

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Starting point is 01:15:54 everybody agree with that? There's distractions think they're stealing our tax money. I think what they do, because our taxes tend to go to pay off the interest on the loan money that we're doing, that we're borrowing. What they're doing is they're just using this giant fucking system to print unlimited money to fund the military industrial complex. And this is somewhere I've gotten into is that I think the center of the New World Order is Switzerland. And that the Vatican, the city of London and Washington, D.C. are just different, basically, bases for each one of the ways you control it and they they hijacked our military because America was so new they came in they hijacked it and they

Starting point is 01:16:51 just use our our fed money to fund that they're they're fucking storm troopers so our when everyone's like our tax money is going all right I think our tax money goes to pay off the to attempt or this the the illusion of paying off interest on the money that we're th that we're that we're th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. they're they're they're their their their th. th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their they're their their their their their their their their their their their their. I think our tax money goes to pay off the to attempt or this the illusion of paying off interest on the money that we're borrowing but we're never going to pay it off ever. I think tax money is the only money you can steal. If you could steal tax money, figure out a way to come up with a bill, create like some conflict and some far away away and then to send aid. to me me me me me. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the illusion. their. the illusion. the illusion. their. their. the illusion. their. their................... The...... The. The.. The. The. The. The. The. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah........................... the.. the.. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. sad about it and then to send aid, you know what I mean? Oh, we need billion dollars to this country. Yeah. You know, that's where they're still in the money, you know, because tax money is the only money you can steal where you're not

Starting point is 01:17:34 going to have people coming after you fucking, you know, hunting you down. You know, any kind of money you still personal money, money from a corporation. You're gonna get killed, you're gonna get thrown in jail. They're gonna come after you. But if you could figure out how to steal tax money, no one's gonna come after you. Yeah, because nobody's gonna come after you. And that's where all the money's at. It's all in the taxes. And if you could figure out a way to steal it, ain't nobody going to kill you. They're not going to come after you, right?

Starting point is 01:18:05 So if everything's theater, why is there a need for Klaus Schwab and a world economic forum? We need that. They need propaganda because there is a fight. There is a fight between good and evil. And there's, in government, is a fight between good and evil and there's in government most people are evil for sure, Republicans, Democrats, but I think the left clearly is way more infested than the right. In the right, it's infested, but there's still spots. There's got to be good people in government, otherwise there wouldn't be a need for fucking propaganda.

Starting point is 01:18:42 So we just need a, we just need to find out who the good people are and like rally around them, try to change fucking the election process to make, if the election process was legit, really the big problem is the media. The media is the biggest fucking problem because they got that shit captured. And most people that are still zombie sheep out there. They're still people less that shit that shit that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's the less less less less less less less less less less less less less less less less. that that that that that that are that's that that. that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that shit. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their thili. thi. thi. their thi. thi. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. thia. in fucking MSNBC and seeing it. There's still people that believe that shit. Less and less and less people. Rachel is still talking.

Starting point is 01:19:10 Yeah, less and less people. Still talking. More people are awake than ever before, but man, there's still a lot of people that are asleep. So I think, I think that if you don't pay attention to what's going on politically, all the corruption, yeah, it's all corrupt, most of it, not everything, because again, if it was, then there wouldn't be a need for propaganda, there wouldn't be a need to suicide people, there wouldn't be a need to censor. Look at all the censorship that's going on. If it was all rigged, why would they even censor anybody? They wouldn't give a fuck? They censor, the truth, the truth, the truth, the truth, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, the truth, if, if, their, if, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, th.e, their, thi, thi, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, wouldn't give a fuck. They censor the truth because they're worried about the truth.

Starting point is 01:19:48 So if they're worried about the truth, then you need to get down and figure out what the truth is instead of saying, oh, it's all rigged. I'm just going to put my fucking head in the sand. All right? So they like it. I think the controllers like it when people lose faith in everything and they just totally blackpilled and they just lose faith Because those people aren't paying attention. They they just lost all faith So they're not paying attention. So they got those they don't care about those people because if you're not paying attention At you're not paying attention to how they're stealing your tax money you ain't doing shit if you're just gonna fucking go off? they the their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not paying they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not they're not paying they're not paying attention. they're not paying attention. they're not paying attention. their their their their thing. they're not paying their their they're not paying attention. they're not paying they're If you're just gonna fucking go off and disappear into the woods and live off the land, that's a beautiful thing. But you got to pay attention to the politics.

Starting point is 01:20:35 You got to pay attention because that's the number one goal is for you, for them, for you not to pay attention. They don't want it. Because if you pay attention, there might be, uh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're their their their their their their their the, for you not to pay attention. They don't want you paying attention. They don't want it. Because if you pay attention, there might be, you're gonna figure out how they're stealing our fucking money. Or what's going on with these local, these local school boards where people start going to,

Starting point is 01:21:00 well, what are you teaching our kids? Yeah, everybody's involved. You gotta pay attention locally, for sure. You got, you got to get involved in local politics. You gotta do something, you know, and what I do is, you know, I try to seek the truth. I, on my podcast, I try to interview people that I feel aren't full of shit and are looking for the truth. Maybe they're wrong with some things, but you know, you gotta be honestly looking for

Starting point is 01:21:31 the truth. You can't ignore everything because it's not all scripted. It's not all scripted. If it was, there wouldn't be no need for censorship. They'd be like, why don't you to the truth. But they're censoring the truth because they're afraid of the truth and that means the truth still has hope and you can't ignore everything and there's there are good people in government. They're all good. It's so easy to say, oh everybody, everybody,

Starting point is 01:21:58 everybody. No, Devin Nunez is legit. Cash Patel, that moth- listen to these motherfuckers. They're th. It, th. It, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. They's, the truth, the truth, the truth, th. They's, the truth, the truth, th. They's, th. They's, th. They's, th. They's, th. They's, the th. They's, th. They're, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theeea, thea'' is, thea' is theat-s, thre's thi. thre's thi, their,z, dog, Devin Nunez is legit. Cash Patel, that mothucker's legit. Listen to these motherfuckers. They're trying, dude. There's fucking a, there's a special forces, a group out there? I agree. They're trying to save this shit. There are good people trying to save this shit. In your job, if you have kids especially, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you have, if you out who are the legit people. I don't know who all the I just you know

Starting point is 01:22:25 Maybe Devin Neumans is full of shit based on what I said that guy's really going after the truth That guy you know and You think there's some good people in DNC? I think the good people would be leaving like Tulsi Gabber. I think tel legit. I think she is. I think she is. Liberals, they do, most of the liberal, I mean, progressives are just weirdos in my humble opinion. Liberals to me, they don't join government to get power. They, when they want to do their help,

Starting point is 01:22:59 they like to go on the local level, charity events, working on the street level, try and help people with drug abuse, all that stuff. It's not the nature of that group to seek power. You know, you have people like Elizabeth Warren who all started out as Republicans and then they flipped to Democrats because they thought it was an easier path to power. That's my humble opinion. And you know, for me, man, it is, it is all, it is, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, they, they, they, they, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, they, they, the know, for me, man, it is, it is, it is all, everything is, what was my point? I lost my fucking thought. Anyways, I think most of the left by this point is infested. And our only hope, and again, I've never been Republican.

Starting point is 01:23:43 I've never voted Republican. I never voted. I'm not conservative. But as you grow older and you have kids and you get married, you realize how important family values are and how important the Second Amendment is and the First Amendment, freedom of speech. And if I didn't have a kid, maybe I would disappear into the fucking mountains, you know, but I have a fucking kid. Dude, I got to pay attention. And we got to figure out to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the the to the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have to to to try. I have tip. I have true. I have true. I have true. I have tip. I have tip. I have tod toda. I have they're going after them they've been going after them they flipped on him since he ran for president 2016 and won you know so is that is that is that is that theater like them like constantly going after him and trying to put him in jail and everybody going after them dude that fucking laptop Russian disinformation thing where they

Starting point is 01:24:43 got 51 intelligence officers to say the laptop was Russian intelligence, while him and Rudy Giuliani going, dude, we got the laptop, dude, these guys are fucking, the Biden's are doing some crazy criminal activity. And so, man, there is, that can't be theater that they're going after him so hard.

Starting point is 01:25:07 That's got to be real. And if it's real, man, he might be the one that has the balls to save this fucking world. He might be, it might be a trip. He hasn't been president before. I mean, how'd that go? What was that? How did you think things went when he was president? Like, Judge, I think, I think, you know, looking back now, it was great because he unplugged everything that the Deep State had plugged in, and then when they rigged the election and

Starting point is 01:25:34 brought the Biden in the administration and they plugged it all back in. What do you think about him bringing Black Rock into the administration. I don't know about that. Yeah, he brought black black rock into the Fed. The Fed, they basically use black rock fucking services. I don't know. There's a lot of shit. You can put up a blast. What do you want to... Black Rock's computer software to run the Fed. Yeah, like people that people think, oh, he's a Freemason or I mean, people say this.this from this there's the one thing is Like a why did he why didn't he fire Fauci you know what happened if I like he put Fouchy on stage dog Maybe that's genius shit everybody dude Fau would have remembered vouching. If he would have fired him, nobody. Is the DNC going to Bernie Sanders, Robert? Of course. They're going to try, but I just think, like, if they do that, that's officially the death

Starting point is 01:26:35 of that party. See, things are getting exposed, man. Everything is what I agree with you on that stuff that, whether Trump is isn't a shill, he did illuminate a lot of shit. He unplugged all their shit and he's totally- The peace accord and all that shit. Yeah, the Paris Accord? Dude, he's totally against climate change. That's not deep state shit. Deep state is all about climate change. And he's all against it. He pulled us out as a pair of court. That's a good sign. No, 100% 100% I mean, but there you know, I don't know dude. I don't know. I don't know what's going on You know, is he people think he's like an Israeli agent that may be true. He might people say he's a Zionist. He's definitely ZIanist. I mean, is I think you have to claim ball is is is he is he if, if, if, he, if, if there's a plan,

Starting point is 01:27:26 if there's a plan to save the world that Trump claims and MAGA and all that shit, if there's a plan, there's gotta be a lot of like, shit he does for the plan, for like, like, you know, what you would do in a sting operation, right? If you're gonna take th th th th th th th th th you th you you you're you're you're to you're to you're to you're to to to you're to you're to to you're to you're to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're to be to do, you're to do, you're to do, you know, you're to to to do, you know, you're, you're, you know, you're, you know, you're, you know, you're, you know, you're, you know, you're, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, know, what you would do in a sting operation, right? If you're gonna take down these drug dealers, you know, and you're, you know, you're gonna be all about them drug dealers and do some drugs with them. You're gonna take down the OKC building.

Starting point is 01:27:54 But you know what I'm saying? So I don't know. He could, the Trump could, this all could be a trick and we could all be fucked. This could all be, I don't know. But they're going after him, dude. Yeah, I'm with you. They're going after them for real. Why are they going after him so hard? What the fuck? I think it's because he's a bull in a china closet personally.

Starting point is 01:28:13 But I think there was a lot of shit he broke. And I don't know, I'll be honest. down if he did come back and he actually is as upset as he tries to make it out like he is and goes against those certain agencies. Now I don't... He's not a globalist. I kind of doubt what he will. I don't know. Here's what I think Trump is. Trump represents a different crime organization.

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Starting point is 01:29:04 He represents a different fight for power. I personally think he's a nationalist. I think he played games with Israel. He won 100% limited speech on campuses. He violated the First Amendment. I'm saying if you think anybody in that position is pure, you're fucking in the fairy tales. It's just the way it is. Everybody has to fuck, you have to dance a little dance to get that. Look at J. F. K. with the Israeli tweet. He instantly had to take it down and start sucking off rabbis to fucking, what was it? What was up with that tweet? So Roger Waters does this Nazi thing in Germany and of course, you know all the Zionist. the Zionist. the Zionist. thia thia Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z. What is thiii. What is thi. What is thi. What is thi. What is thi. What is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. th. they they th. they are. they are. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. they. they. they. they're the ists hate Roger Water. Not even a Nazi thing, though. I mean, that's just-

Starting point is 01:29:46 It was like, well, he does, he does a character that's a nationalist, like, sort of a dictator type figure. In, in, he's acting, it's acting. And, and they, people just slap this image around because he's kind of dressed in not so. addressed and not to the go. It's clearly meant to be like a nod to that. But he's acting and they're saying he's like praising nonsense, which is that's the exact opposite of the message of the album and the song. I can, I believe that.

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Starting point is 01:30:55 they love being England. We're the only country we're not allowed to be a proud. That's more like patriotism. But see that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's the that's the that's that's the the that's that's the only that's the only that's the only that's the only that's the only that's the only that's the only that's that's the only that's their that's that's their that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. the the th. th. the th. that's the the the the th. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. the the th. the thi. th. th. th. th. th. th because that's the kind of thinking that gets you to die for your country. Yeah, but that's where I limit it. That's why, that's why I'm like, that's where I'm limited, but to be proud to be. The flyovers and all that shit, that, that's where, I feel like that's, it's a slippery, slow, but if you like, listen, I don't think American lives. I'm, th. that's, that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. That's. that's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's why I'm like, that's why I'm like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's. That's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, that's why. That's why. That's why. that's why I. that's why I. that's why I'm like, that's why, that's why I, that's why I, that's why I rights to have a family, laugh, get laid once in a while and all that shows. There are certain times where I'm like I want my country to do great. Sports and business like that. If we invent a fucking business here I want to stay here and hire Americans. I don't have anything against Ethiopians, Iraqis or anything like that I want them to flourish and and there's enough that we could all flourish. But they they they they they they they they they they've they've th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. tho. tho. thi. I thi. I'm the. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll the. I'll the. I'll to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooooooo. to to the. to flourish too. And there's enough that we could all flourish. But they've demonized this idea that you actually would put your country in anything first. Where every other country. Dude, look at when a British boxer

Starting point is 01:32:14 comes here and fights. They fucking fly. The whole country flies here to support him. And then they sing the national anthem. Nobody's going, all these fucking Nazis. These fucking Nazis. Look at these Nazis! the the whole the whole the whole the whole the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the their their their their their their their country. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their their. their their. their. their. their their. their. their. their their. their their their their their their their their country.c. their country. their country. their country. their country. their country. their country. their country. Wea. their c. their c. the national anthem. Nobody's going, oh, these fucking Nazis. These fucking Nazis, look at these Nazis singing God Save the King, these fucking Nazis. They don't do that. This has been this giant psychological operation to get people to not want to support where they fucking live. I am capitalism. I'm not for crony capitalism. I don't fucking think that we need to go and rape and pillage other countries to keep the prices down. There was a

Starting point is 01:32:48 time where we didn't have fucking free trade and guess what? Shit was cheap, okay? Because there's only there's a price point and they fucking you about that. Can you put that back in the box so the genie 100% you think so? Bring it all back here you their. You their. You their. You their. You to to to to to to to to to their. to to to to to their. to to their. to to their. to to too. too. too. too. to you about that. Can you put that back in the box? So the genie... 100%! You think so. Bring it all back here. You hire everybody here. Everyone's got a fucking job. Now we got money to buy stuff. And we're starting to find out this whole thing about all the bad we got to get profits up.

Starting point is 01:33:18 We got to keep profits up. Because you know Wall Street, now we're realizing it's a giant Ponzi scheme. And that the ESG shit is just, that's how they really make their money by these giant fucking corporations buying their fucking thing. It's not about how much profit they're making. They don't give them fuck. It's about are these giant investment firms that are being ran through with fed money, taking over and buying your stock. That's all matters. So that's all bullshit too. So there's no reason not to bring back fucking manufacturing to America. Suck a dick. Anyways, I want to get into,

Starting point is 01:33:54 because I can't keep you guys forever. Kenneth, we got in Terence. Is there anything more about Terrence? Because I feel like that's a big issue for you and I really love that you've been keeping his name out there. Can you tell us a little bit more about his story? Terence, yeah, he was, like I said before, one of the first responders. He showed up to rescue people, you know, within minutes of the bombing going off. He showed up, saved upwards of three lives.

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Starting point is 01:35:09 wrong. It seems to be he's implying that from the letter to Ramona. Ramona's also was used as a source later on in the CNN article that just came out I think a few months ago they used her so you have the letter and that she is like an an an an an of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of. I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. the. thi. the the thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. I. thi. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I th. I th. I th. I the the the t. I te. I te. I te. I te. I te. I'm. I'm. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tha. It te. It's is is tha. It's. So you have the letter and that. She is like kind of like an anonymous sort of source. She's using like a pseudonym. So I mean, you know, put that into your calculations how much you want to trust it. But I believe the letter was originated from the family. They found it and gave it to him. So I know, I think it's legit. But yes, so there's that. He seemed to be, he seemed to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have seen to have seen to have seen to have seen the the the the the the the to have a the the to have a the the the the the the letter, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, the letter, the letter, the to, the the to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom. tooom, you. tooom, you. tooome. tooome. tooome. to. the the the too. to be, he seemed to have seen something. You know, it's hard to say exactly what he saw. At one point said to his sister, LaShan Hargrove, something along the lines, or that he saw something that looked like, perhaps that it exploded, that saw evidence of what looked like an outward explosion as opposed to an inward explosion. I don't have specifics on what exactly he saw in regards to that.

Starting point is 01:36:05 So another point to keep in mind too is during the rescue operations there was a multiple times where they stopped the search for bomb scares, for additional bombs. Now we never really got an official narrative on what exactly it is, but the more semi-official sources, it seems to be that they've settled on like the more reputable sources is that the ATF was improperly storing munitions in the munitions the munitions to the munitions to to the munitions munitions munitions to to the munitions munitions munitions munitions to to to to the munitions munitions to the munitions to to to to the munitions to to to to to to the munitions to keep to keep to to the munitions to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep. to keep. to keep. to keep. to keep. to keep. to keep. to keep. So, to keep, to keep, to keep, to keep, the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, that they've settled on like the more reputable sources is that the ATF was improperly storing munitions in the Murrah building which they shouldn't be because there was a daycare there there was like a Social Security office with old people and all the to'lifl civilians but this is on the lesser end so on what it could have been it that they had munitions there so now obviously not not that le a that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeeeeeeeean. tean. tean. tean. tean. te. te. te. te. te. the. the. the. So now obviously now that leaves two options open either those were unexploded ordinances or they actually did explode and maybe that could account for some of the damage that we're seeing but obviously then they wouldn't admit to it because then

Starting point is 01:36:52 now that would make them, that would put them at, make them culpable. But you know, so on the less end it's unexploded ordinances they had to call off. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. So, their, their, their, they their, they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they actually actually they actually actually actually they they they had they had they had they they they they they they actually actually actually actually they had they had they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. they. So, they. So, they. So, their. So, their, their, their, their, their, th. So, the. So, the. the. the. theee. theeee. thee. thee. they actually actually actually actually actually actually actually actually did actually had actually had actually had they're they're they're they had to call off, even that's bad enough, even if they didn't explode because they were improperly storing it. And as a result, there may have been people who legitimately died because they had to stop rescue operations for a period of time while they dealt with it. On the other end, now in the other end, the other extreme of the possibilities of what that could have been, those could have earlier, the two individuals claimed they saw something that looked like that was going on. So you know, there's a realm of possibilities. There also is, there are some researchers who seem to believe somehow he may have got a hold of the surveillance tapes. I don't know how legit that is, but that is another key point with local Misseedie

Starting point is 01:37:37 bombings. The surveillance tapes, there was over 20. the there were, and other sources we found out that there were over 20, I believe it was either two or three that they said had evidentiary basis, which means they would show the bombing itself and the individuals. So, you know, so between 20 that we have at least probably, you know, a few that would would be very useful. And those would be almost certainly show, you know, on the lighter end, once again, that would, it's almost certain it would show a second person getting out of that truck with Timothy McVeigh. But on the other hand, that also could show, you know, simultaneous or maybe an explosion

Starting point is 01:38:20 happening before or after, if we're going to go with planted explosives, that those surveillance tapes would have shown that. So those FOIAs, they've been, or those FOIA, but those surveillance tapes, they've been hiding forever, coming with every excuse they can. There's an individual named Kenneth, or not Kenneth, but Jesse, who trying to do, whose brother died also is another suicide, quote unquote. And he's been fighting for decades, th. And to. And he's, th. And he's been fighting for decades now for the Justice and his brother's case. And a lot of people think that they may have killed him in pursuit of John Doe too, the FBI, kind of trying to hush-hush things.

Starting point is 01:38:53 But anyways, point being as to how this connects is, you know, he's, one of the major things that Jesse has been pushing for decades now is going through FOIA lawsuits, so freedom of information requests, and he's been, the main thing he's been pushing is the security surveillance videos he's been trying to get and they've been dragging their feet, basically giving almost nothing. But he's been getting, we've got a ton of information from Jesse trying to do stuff, but it's more like kind of reluctantly he's kind of slowly sucked out information, you know, different documents and stuff. He also, another thing he's working on too is, and he's actually currently under a gag order, so as soon as that comes out, that would be a great guess for one of you

Starting point is 01:39:35 guys is Jesse trying to do, but he's currently under a gag order because he had one individual named John Matthews who was a a Pat-Con operative whistleblower for the FBI, which was a operation going around in the early 90s. Many people are suspicious that it connects to the Oklahoma City bombing, because for one, John Matthews saw McVeigh and Strasmire, then another individual we haven't quite talked on him, but we probably should try to hit on him before we get out of here because I think he's a key point that tie ties tie ties the tie ties tie ties tie ties tie ties tie ties tie ties tie ties the tie ties, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe, toe, they, toe, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, they, the, they, they, the, they, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the too, the too, the, the, the, the, they.ery to hit on him before we get out of here, because I think he's a key point that ties in a lot of stuff we've talked about. But you know, he's, he, essentially this PatCon operation seems to tie into that. And when he, you know, he teamed up with Jesse to try to, you know, help him with his whole court stuff, but you know, the FBI threatened him to, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, essentially, the, essentially, the, the, the, essentially, the, essentially, the, the, the, essentially, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, essentially, the, essentially, the, the, essentially, the, essentially, and, essentially, and, and, essentially, and, and, essentially, and, essentially...e.e.e.e.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. to. the toe. t toe. toe. the toe. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. Jesse, you know, brought this to the judge, brought this allegation, and because of it,

Starting point is 01:40:28 the judge has been taking it seriously. I guess he put gag orders on both parties, and they're still trying to parse that out. Everyone I've talked to involved with that case, or that knows anything about the case, seems pretty hopeful. Apparently, his judge has been pretty, thap. fighting against the feds for a lot of stuff for years now. So we think it'll probably rule in his favor. So hopefully here soon, we might have a big treasure trove of FOIA stuff that comes out. We'll see. But point being is how this all interconnects.

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Starting point is 01:41:21 We see like, John Doe, every major, fucking event that's happened since there, except for maybe 9-11 we can get into, I bet you if we search hard enough, we'll find a John Doe type. But all these shootings, right? All these shootings, witnesses see another guy, uh, Columbine? I mean, we see film of a guy running. We see pictures of somebody arrested. No discussion about that. In the, and this is kind of,

Starting point is 01:41:52 you and I've talked about this a bunch of times about, you know, in the, not the Parkland shooting. The teacher goes on ABC. And this is got into the I had to I had to really like pull back on a discussion with Joe Rogan about this because he got very you know you got he was got started getting emotional about it let's just say and he was you know I was telling him it's like this nonlinear warfare shit that goes on as well like ABC allows this teacher to come on say she saw a cop in heavy armor shooting children. And you're like that gets on ABC? Like you and I both know, like every moment of every second on television is micromanaged. Yeah. That

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Starting point is 01:45:06 Right? Yeah, on the MK-Ultra thing, I just remembered, we were talking about McVeigh earlier. And on MK-Ultra, Jolly West, you know, which I'm sure you guys are familiar with that name, and you may not be involved in this whole grand story. Oh hold on, oh yeah, he was involved in this too. Yep, yep, yep. Now, recent information has come out from Dr. Wenny painting, I don't recall the specifics, but according to her, you know, and I trust her, but people go look into this. If you've had, I think you had fallen gone gone that that tho, I, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, uh, th, th, th, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, trust her but people go look into this if you've had I think you had fallen gong that guy on you know

Starting point is 01:45:50 program chill before I believe she did a series on his show and she I think she went to that I don't remember if she gave specific but either way she I'm sure there'll be something that comes out in a later book and she'll give the sources on that But according to her, he actually did, Jolly West actually did meet with Timothy McVeigh. Now, before this information came out recently, we knew that John Smith, the protégé of him, had met with him, but we didn't know that McVeigh had met with Jolly West. But even then prior before that, so even before this Wendy Pinning information, we knew that Jolly West was involved and he was working with the victims, the, the, the know, the helping them out essentially that was the story or whatever, which is obviously, the thel to manipulate trauma. It seems obviously very weird that some individual shows up when a large trauma event happens to tell the thate. And what the goal is is essentially to manipulate trauma. It seems obviously very weird that some individual shows up when a large trauma event happens to talk to these individuals who experience a lot of trauma. So, I mean, I don't know, you know, go with that wherever you want.

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Starting point is 01:47:56 know the relations weren't so bad then yeah yeah he this guy is actually fluent in German fluent in Hebrew as well so this is a this is a this is this is this is a this is this is this is a this is a this is a kind this is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a kind is a th is a th th is a th is a th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. th. th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I I I I th. th. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th in German, fluent in Hebrew as well. So this is the kind of guy we're talking about, you know, and he's also the son of like a high-powered politician over there in Germany at the time. And this guy, you know, after all that, over there in Germany, he decides to come over to the United States. And the first person he lives with is this individual named Vincent Petrusky. And now, Vincent Petrusky, it seems to be, he was an ex-CIA operative who was involved in Operation Phoenix, which is something I was telling you about earlier, which is kind of ties into Gladio, ties into Northwoods. It's kind of that vein.

Starting point is 01:48:38 Essentially, Operation Phoenix was this operation that was going on around the Vietnam War time, where we had, you had spe, youtype operations going on over in Vietnam, where they were essentially doing false flag type attacks, things like, you know, assassinations, bombings, shootings, whatever, stuff that would, obviously, the whole point being was to drive the Vietnamese people into the arms of the security state, which, you know, essentially was us at that period of time and drove them away from the V V V Vv......v.v..v.v.v.v, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.a, th.a, th.a, th.a, thia, the, th. th. the, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, tha.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the.a. thea.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. ta.a. ta. ta. ta. ta.a.a.a.a, their, the security state, which you know essentially was us at that period of time and drove them away from the Viet Cong and stuff like that. So that was going on. This Vincent Petrusky seems to be he may have been involved in that and he had made comments before about how we'd kind of like to get the gang back together, something along those lines. Essentially start this up over here, something along those lines. So I don't know, reading that what you want to. And you know, he, while he's with Vincent Petrusky, there are some statements where it seems that Vincent was trying to help Androya's get a job, put in different packages to different intelligence agencies, stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:49:36 Apparently, I guess Vincent Petrusky was waiting, I forget if it was Reagan or who it is, but he apparently was buddies with some or had connections to some one of the presidential hopefuls and if they got in he was supposed to get some big job and that seemed to fall through or did it. And so anyways, Strasmire leaves Petrusky and he moves to Texas and he goes and lives with another CIA officer, Dave Holloway. And now this individual was also at one point a pilot for essentially a cutout of Evergreen, which anyone who's Evergreen is, that's a CIA front company. And so this guy, he had Strasmire living with him, and at this time Holloway had kind of founded,

Starting point is 01:50:24 or started up a militia called Texas Light Infantry, and he brought Strassmire in with the fold with him to the full of him. And at this time, Holloway had kind of founded a or started up a militia called Texas Light Infantry and he brought Strasmire in with the fold with him type deal. Strasmire ended up there. During this period of time too, Strasmire is also receiving $2,000 a month from Holloway. I believe, if I remember quickly, it was under the guys of some computer job or some nonsense. Obviously he wasn't doing this, but he ends up in this militia with Holloway. And he actually, Strathamary gets kicked out of this militia for being a suspected provocateur because some of the individuals in the militia followed him, I guess, one night,

Starting point is 01:50:55 and they saw him trying to go, or actually going into a federal building and using the keypad to get in. And at that point, they're like, you can like, you, you, you, you, you, and I do want to say at this Texas Light Infantry, this is the first time that we, you know, have what seems to be reporting of McVeigh and Strasmire meeting up, is during this Texas Light Infantry period, that John Matthews, the Patgon guy I told you about earlier, he said he saw them together at the, that period time over the Texas Light Infantry but anyways then from there Strasmire goes to Elohim City once he's kicked out of Texas Light Infantry and

Starting point is 01:51:32 Alohem City is you know a very anyone who's looked into okay see pretty deeply you know it's probably heard of Elohim City it's kind of like a a little ragged group of white supremacists, militia types, religious kooks, but generally kind of like a white power. It's filled to the brim with feds, like let's be real. But Strasmire gets there, he immediately takes over, or maybe not immediately, but he ends up essentially self-appointing himself as a security director there. I guess he makes a big point to upgrade the weaponry, and I believe some of theme, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, the, thi, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, is is is is thi, is thi, is is, is thi, is is thi, is, is, is is th, is th, is, is, is thi, is thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a the, is a the the the thr-a, is a little, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, theyi.ei.ei.ei.ei. their, their, their, their, they's, thi, is a little, is a little point to upgrade the weaponry, and I believe some of them were illegal weaponry. So that says something. He also was supposedly pushing individuals in these groups to be more aggressive. He was pushing things like assassinations, bombing, shooting, stuff like this.

Starting point is 01:52:17 And you know, and this was also, this was corroborated by Carol Howe, which he was an ATF informant that got planted in there and she claimed that she actually went with Dennis Mahon, who was a white supremacist figure, and Andrea Strasmire, and they scouted the Murrah building three times, those individuals, you know, obviously trying to scout it for, you know, kind of prospective bombing. So there's that. And this is Alohem City. This is another place where there, you know, McVeigh and him are of rumor to have met up. You know, during this period of time is the only time that Strasmire admits to have met McVeigh and they met at a gun show there and at that according to their official story or their story is at there, they kind of just met up, struck some conversation.

Starting point is 01:53:06 He, or McVeigh sold to Strasmire, his BDU's from Desert Storm that has name tag and everything. And we know this because one of the times he got interviewed, it was literally hanging up in Strasmire's closet you could see the name tag. So that's weird. And also during that period of time, Strassmire gave McVeigh a business card, or not, I guess I guess you could call a business card for Elohim City so he could reach him, because it's not just some place you just show up at it. And, you know, and that is his explanation for how later he got called, because it seems to be the reason why he copped up to the one time, me, McVeigh is because they looked at their phone records and at one point, McVeigh called over to him. So then he had to come up with a reason why they talked.

Starting point is 01:53:48 But, you know, there were SPLC informants, and an informant that claim that he saw McVeigh and him were tied in theen, so to. to. to. to. to. individuals. There's more to tie in, but I mean I think I've made the point that McVeigh and him were tied in together. The Strasmary individual, I've kind of given its connections to to kind of some of the CIA figures and you know kind of knew why we talked about Operation Phoenix, kind of how that ties into it. So, and then also the big thing with him is whenever all this stuff went down is shortly after he disappeared he left the country he went back to Germany and he was essentially escorted by this hallway figure and during that period of time too he also got a kind of like a going-away interview. I forget the name of the journalist off top of my head

Starting point is 01:54:43 but this was another guy who was, you know, looked like he was a past CIA operative and it was just kind of like a fluff piece to kind of like, oh, how he had nothing to do with this type deal. And then he ended up back over in Germany and that's kind of where we are. So I mean, that guy obviously tel the individuals planning the explosives or what seemed to be could have been explosives earlier. The big, a lot of people think Strasmire was one of him because at one of those individuals, I forget which one of the ladies it was that said it, I want to say it was Ruth Graham,

Starting point is 01:55:18 but I forget. But she went on the Alex Jones program and she claimed to have that it was strassmire, one of the people she saw it was Strasmire, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and I, I, I, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm, th.I.I.I.I.I. thed, thed, thed, thed, th, thed, thed, thed, thed, thed, thed, thed, thed, th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, the, th, th, th, th, and, the, and, and, thed, thed, thed, and, and, the, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, their, their, and she claimed to have that it was Strasmire, one of the people she saw was Strasmire. And that is the only time her story ever changed. So a lot of people don't put a ton of credence in that, so I'm just being honest with that. I mean, maybe, I don't know, maybe she thought about it more really, looked at the face. And I have no idea. But a lot of people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people, but a that, but a that, but a that is, but a that is, but a thi. that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, their, their, and their, and their. And their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the only. And, and the only. And, and the only the only the only the only the only the only the only their, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their their. And, their. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the Alex Jones story. And as you guys went on earlier, a lot people like to, you know, theorize maybe it's controlled opposition or something. I don't know. So either way, the guy's enough of a shady figure and he clearly had a lot to do the bombing. There were reports of him being there at like planning phases in meetings at Elohim City among other people. He's definitely one of the probably the figures that glow the most. It was another individual Roger Moore but we don't really

Starting point is 01:56:06 have to go into him too much. He's another individual that glows like the sun. I mean we've only covered probably like a less than a quarter of the stuff here. There's so much of this but you know that that definitely stress merit ties into our larger kind of narrative of like you know how these then if they did it themselves kind of like how we see the blueprints for that. I mean do you remember going there Sam? Yeah. And we had the Native American, the American showing us around and we were kind of she didn't know we were there kind of not believing the story. Yeah, it was weird. I want to end on this. I want to end up on the next one talk about all this like remote viewing stuff but I it it it it was it was it was. th. th. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to end. to end. to to the the. to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the to the the the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. te. to. to. to. the to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. would love to, on the next one, talk about all this, like, remote viewing

Starting point is 01:56:45 stuff, but I want to kind of just end it on James Corbett. He had a whole thing on this, and I want to focus on the end, and where like, nobody got to witness Timothy McVay's execution. When did that happen? When did he get executed? I don't know, let me see. Pretty sure they, the people saw it on CCTV, if I remember correctly. Point to him, nobody got to watch it. They know, they didn't get to see when he left. Well, they, the, the hurts had no license plates on it that took his body. It's, hey, it's all so shady. I mean, I know, they they didn't they th. I know, I know, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. his body. It's all so shady.

Starting point is 01:57:25 I mean, I know, I know, yeah. One weird thing a lot of people point to is, he made claims that he thought that he was gonna somehow get out of there at some point to multiple people that they were gonna not kill him. Personally, I think he may have believed he wasn't going to. I do think he may did whisper sweet nothings into his ear but there is definitely weird stuff there there I did find out recently that I guess he made a point to that he wanted him himself to be a god I'm having such a brain

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Starting point is 01:58:29 Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you. Well, Jose, great episode, great job. One more time, tell us where they can find you. Yeah, if you like my offensive comedy, tower gang, you can, that's on YouTube. That's a thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, I, I, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, th.. th. th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. thi. Yeah, thi, thi, thi, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. Yeah, I'm thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah're also a rumble on that one. And then all of my No Way Jose show, which my more serious content, more conspiracy, libertarianism, anarchism, stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:58:51 If that stuff you're into, I've done a lot of, a few hundred episodes at this point, so check out my playlist, whatever. There might be something in there that catches your eye. probably the things. I th th thing thing things probably things probably things probably things probably things probably things. I things. I things. I thi probably thi probably thi probably thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm probably thi. I'm probably thi. thi. thi. I'm probably thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the the thi. the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'll probably probably probably probably thi. I'll probably thi. I'll thin. I'm probably thin. I'm probably thin. I'm probably thin. I'm probably thin. theeananananni. theananananni. theanni. thean. theanni. theann'a. thea. thea. I'm probably the thing I'm best known for is this OKC series. I highly recommend it. It's been lauded by a lot of people. Like I said, that's mostly due to my expert, Richard Boo. So I'll credit to him. But yeah, that's the No Way Jose show. YouTube all major Rboxes as well.

Starting point is 01:59:13 If you want to follow me on Twitter at Tarragang Jose, This isn't great. And if there's there's there's there's there's there's th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th, and if th, th, th, th, th, th, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's that's that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. tho. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thoo thoooooooooo... thooooooooo'.. thoooooooooo' thoooo. tho. that's tho anyone that has anything to do with any of these individuals or was there the day of, I'm always looking for, you know, people to talk to because you never know who's going to hear this and who knows something or whatever. You know, like that Stephen Vassar interview I had, I literally just found him on Facebook because I saw he was a source recently used in a, in a, that hadn't been used before in an article. So if that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th at th at a that that that that that, that, that, that, to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you their, you their, you their, you their, you know, the the the the the the.e.e.e. the the the the.e. the thea. thea. thea. to thea. thea. So I know if there's anyone out there that knows anyone that, you know, knows anything or anything like that or pertinent to the story, let me know. I'm looking to break any of that type stuff.

Starting point is 01:59:52 It's why even Wikipedia says that they fast-tracked his ass to the lethal injection. Yeah, I mean, even Wikipedia up here. Eddie, one more- I think they renovated the death penalty laws, if I recall correctly for him. Yeah, Eddie, we got a big gig this Saturday night in Torrance at the end of the South Bay, two shows, but for one ticket, you're gonna get stand-up comedy, then you'll get a little Q&A with us. Then, of course, we also have also have 12th. We have more gigs hopefully coming but August 12th we're gonna be at Broad Brook and we're gonna be at the opera

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Starting point is 02:01:11 will talk to you soon enjoy the highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. Speaking of lizard people we meant to talk about this earlier but we there's a certain family that whenever we bring it up on 10 foil hat yes everything everything digital in their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. There is. We. There is. We. We. We. There's. We their. We're their. We're their. We're their their their is. We're. We're. There's. We're. their. We're. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. We. their. We. We. We. their is is. th. their is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th 10foil hat, yes. Everything digital in our lives goes. We will not say their names ever again. Goes Haywire. So we even talked about with Mel K, we go, oh, you met last time you're on. And all that, everybody just fucked with us.

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Starting point is 02:02:02 it seems like ours especially people had especially a lot of problems with, Johnny. We're getting the shows. So can we end the show on the final thing? No, we haven't done any news. Oh, shit. Johnny. We're at 215.

Starting point is 02:02:13 We're 15. That's a lot. We haven't done any news stories. All right. Okay. Fox News has sent a seice and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th and th. th. th. th. th. Frea. th. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. Frea. th. the the the the the the the the show. the show. the show. th. th. th. th. th. th.................................................................................................................... desist letters over his new Twitter show. He should just keep going. Fox News has sent a cease and desist letter to Tucker Carlson alleging that the conservative networks former star anchor breached his contract by launching a new Twitter show. By the way, he's just, it's a guy talking in his basement. It's so ridiculous. It's not a prime time news show. So because he's supposed to be off here for at least a year, I think. I think it's 2024.

Starting point is 02:02:47 He's supposed to be silent until after the 2024 election. So do you know Johnny what happens is like these reality stars, they all get fucked by these deals? Because what happens is they do these reality shows and then they sign a deal where they can't do another show for a year after that?? and, and that..... And, and that. And that. And that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and th. And th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi is is is is, thi is is, thi's is, thi's, thi's, thi, thi, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, it's is, th is, thi, they shows and then they sign a deal where they can't do another show for a year after that and by the time that year's done everyone's forgotten about them and nobody cares so this is kind of what they do it's super interesting I wonder if this was part of his negotiations with Twitter they were like hey dude if I get sued you guys got a kind of backstop me here because I mean they could ruin Tucker a hundred million dollars is a lot to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to the to the the to the to the the the the to the to the the to to to to to to the the the the the the to to they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. the. the. th. th could ruin Tucker if they have a really good contract. $100 million is a lot to to Elon yeah no no I would do it I'd be

Starting point is 02:03:30 like let's go bro let's go because you if you notice now anytime Tucker post the video Elon this is serious or something like that what let's just say that Rogin doesn't resign with Spotify. I think he will. I mean, they'd be stupid to let him go. Twitter? Let's say, I mean, Elon, what do you got to say? Here's a bill, bro, let's go, let's go.

Starting point is 02:03:54 That'd be huge for Twitter. That'd be huge. And to this day, I think Joe needs to have a corporation behind their their, a point, a point, a point, a, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, too, let, too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's too, let's to have a corporation behind him, a point of entry. That's just my opinion. Also, somebody to just take the blows, you know, like from the outside, like to kind of. He, Joe is a big fish, but in the, the masses of mankind, he needs a bigger fish. Absolutely. Right. Here's a poll. This is from USA Today. Yeah, I gotta go. this to me is the reaction. We're the, the, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. too. the. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. the we're finally starting to see the reaction of

Starting point is 02:04:25 the left agenda among people in the general public. Americans are less supportive of transgender athlete participation in single gender sports than they were two years ago a national survey found. Even more people say now that they know someone who is transgender, yet they don't support transgender athletes picking... So are you talking about this interview that this guy did on the hill? It's a gallop pole. Yeah, yeah, so if you go find the hill, they actually interviewed the guy who is like in charge

Starting point is 02:04:59 the gallop pole, if you listen to him. Well, I mean, I don't... But the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason the reason thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I th. I th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I know the... But the reason I'm telling you this is because after this came out, this guy went on the Hill and he kind of was like giving his interpretation of it. What, trying to slant it or... Yeah, 100 percent. And it was so insane how he was slanting it to basically be like, yeah, Americans think changing ones, no no that can't be it. No I think that might be it. Well no it does say two days ago.

Starting point is 02:05:29 In a new Gallup poll, 69% of Americans say transgender athletes should only be able to play on the teams that match the birth gender. I didn't get to read the report of that position since 2021. The point is it's getting worse. But we got th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I to to to to th. I to to th. I th. I to th. I to to to thi. I thi. I to thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I that that that that that that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I that. I thi. I th. I the. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thea. I the. I the. I th recap of the seven point shift toward that position since 2021. The point is it's getting worse, but we got to explain the story first. I didn't get to finish reading. It's getting worse. It used to be more people were actually supportive and now less are. And the reason they're surprised by this is because more people than ever say they know somebody who's trans.

Starting point is 02:05:59 And this is the result of all all all all that they've been trying to do. It's backfiring. It's well back. I know there's people in Hollywood that see my tweets and get upset with me about and they think I'm anti-trans. I'm not at all. I don't. But dude, it's like you guys have no clue the difference between the gay movement which started early and in my opinion queer theory. They're blowing it. They, well. Well, well. Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, no, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their their th is thi thi the the the is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thi is th is the is thi is the is the is the is the is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is theats is the is the and in my opinion queer theory. They're blowing it. They're not, well, they're meant to blow it. This is it, this is meant to be if you said. But I mean, they're blowing their chance to convince people by the tax. Because at 62% then, this shift was also seen among Democrats with 40.

Starting point is 02:06:40 Yeah, that's him. That's based on the you know reading your kind of go back go back Where they introduce morality versus fairness and participation in sports There is definitely a divide even amongst people who are left of center on whether or not that should be taking place. I have seen I think more criticism from everything of its pride month of kind of just the LGBT category this year than I can recall in previous years. I think there had been a sense that the right, except for very ardent religious conservatives, had largely given up on re-litigating gay marriage, things of that nature, you know, except when it's still going to fight the cake baking case, the area where it really clashes

Starting point is 02:07:24 with freedom of religion and freedom of expression maybe. But those issues were settled and won and most Americans even a lot of Americans on the right agreed with that. Based on reading your poll results, my perception would be that the trans category and the sort of the disinterested including them in sports that even many Democrats have, is that like the trans category? Is that like dragon-a-in, is, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the-in, the-in, the-in, the-is, the-is, is the-is, is their, their, their, they, they, they, the, they, they. is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the disinterested including them in sports that even many Democrats have, is that like dragging down the entire LGBT category you know back toward levels of non-acceptance that were you know have last witnessed back in the in the auts? We don't see that in the numbers

Starting point is 02:08:01 so whether or not people are accepting of gay marriage, for example, is something we've been asking about for decades. Right now, seven and ten Americans support a view of being homosexual as morally acceptable and even larger percentages support gay marriage. And we've seen huge shifts over just the past third years. So, most people, again, going back to who you know. Listen, I know there's going to be backlash on this. thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. we wee th. wee wee we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we th. th. thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the thooooooooooooooooooooo. the the. the thoo. tho. tho. We years. Most people don't care about gay marriage. Most people, again, going back to who you know. Listen, I know there's going to be backlash on this, okay? Gays did not kill marriage.

Starting point is 02:08:33 The courts and the government killed marriage by making it one-sided. That's why. Okay? There's a reason why 70% of marriages are ended by the women because they're favorable to them in court. In every single way, child custody, divorce because courts look at women like it's the 1950s and they aren't allowed to have any jobs or anything like that. It's also back then, especially when we're going're gonna lose it again, but the women. And when a lot of these laws were made, though, people weren't living as long either. Now guys are having to support women, they divorced when they were 45 for 30, 40 years.

Starting point is 02:09:13 Dude, if you're in the California, I would not stay married over 10 years. It sucks. And here's a quick sneak peek of conspiracy social club. Enjoy. Stop getting your news from tick-talk and stop getting your news from I hate Bill Clinton.com And stop getting your news from YouTube I'm begging you to stop with I love you so much I'm so thankful that you are some credible trust ignorant and do not look at my eyes are closed because because I'm begging him Because I'm begging him. And I'm begging him with all my Jesus Christ energy.

Starting point is 02:09:50 Because I love him. But I want him to be educated. Yeah, Brian. He's not. But he has full, he's full of opinion. Al-Mari. Now listen. Sam. You'd have to pay these assassins. opinion Al-I'm a ring now listen Sam

Starting point is 02:10:07 You'd have to pay these assassins What you're talking about me? Read anything either? Huh, what we pushed we pitched so many books I do you don't read anything. I read anything? I read anything anything because I read the pale horse it's the worst book. Brian you are I'm embarrassed for you. I'm embarrassed for you and that guy was crazy. No, you are, I'm embarrassed for you. It's the worst- I'm embarrassed for you. And that guy was crazy. No, you're crazy, Brian.

Starting point is 02:10:28 And in fact, went into a schizophatic rage and got shot by the cop. Oh, oh, so it's his fault now. Well, when you read this book, you go, oh, you're crazy. And it's not even written like a good movie. It's like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it, and it's, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and to, and to. to, and, and, and, and to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th to th th th th th to th th th to th th to to th to to the captain got super mad when I even mentioned that a UFO came out of the sea. His face got red, the veins in his neck. Oh God, the captain had a reason to keep that secret. He had a reason, I command a ship and you will not talk about this again. Yes, uh, UFO came out of the sea, nothing to see here. I tell you I'll court Marshall you better not write a book you're just ridiculous having he wrote a book we out to kill I I can't go make it look like an accident he knows too much

Starting point is 02:11:12 about to buy up all the book oh Brian Brian Brian you know he was assassinated by the government right you know that right of course after you write right right I wrote that book about a giant UFOri- UFO coming out of the sea. We're gonna be sunk, I tell you, it will be sunk. Someone go kill him. Send the local law enforcement. Brian, he literally was shot in the back by the government. Send the local law enforcement there. Brian, he was shot in the back by the government.

Starting point is 02:11:34 He was literally shot in the Brian Brian real quick. I want to hear your lifetime channel for retarded women's version Okay of of what happened with the branch of Vidian can I hear that story for you like you get into it? I want to hear what happened there from Brian Callan's the FBI and Ruby Ridge and and Waco clearly behaved in a in the alcohol tobacco and firearms firearms ATF I think I they did a terrible job. Okay, they did a they did a terrible tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thae. tha. tha. the tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. tel. tell. tel. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tell. tthe alcohol tobacco and firearms ATF I think an FBI they did a terrible job okay and they they should be now Brian they should be ashamed when you shouldn't get a terrible job do you think that it just didn't go the way they wanted it to and it just got out of hand yes it was a bunch of macho guys who said oh we have this this guy's got young underage girls there and it just got out of hand. Yes. It was a bunch of macho guys who said oh we have this this guy's got young underage girls there and he's and they're

Starting point is 02:12:29 dealing with weapons and they're dealing with like you know weapons they're amassing weapons okay and they geared up and they go this is our chance to go and they and instead of going in there doing it the right way they went in their guns blazing. So Brian, let me ask you something, a kind-hearted human being like yourself, right? Let's say as a kind-hearted human being like yourself, okay? If a situation happens where a bunch of people died because the plan didn't get executed the way you had hoped fingers crossed that it had worked out that way. Do you think Brian after it would everything the

Starting point is 02:13:12 the the fire is still simmering do you think you would take pictures of of yourself in front of said accident where people in particularly children had died do you think you would take pictures of this incredibly horrible moment where you and your friend's plans went so wry that it just didn't work out and people unfortunately died? Do you think you would take pictures of yourself in front of that? No. Okay, because they did the ATF and the FBI. I understand, but they've gotten a lot of shit for that because they were, they behaved. Yeah, but Brian, what you don't understand, Brian, is your common

Starting point is 02:13:50 theme with you on here on episode zero of Conspiracy Social Club, okay? Is that you always think the plan just didn't work out, unfortunately, but somehow the people who made the plan that didn't work out get all the money and get all the power. That's what you think. How they got all the money and power with Waco? Waco embarrassed the FBI and the ATF. The Waco didn't embarrass them. It went exactly the way they wanted to. They sent a fucking was to everybody. Fuck around and find out. I would agree with that. I would agree with there are people in the FBI who said,

Starting point is 02:14:26 let's teach these branch Davidians. The branch of Vidinian people tried to be like, hey man. I agree. Let's just fucking will come out. Nope. But isn't that- But isn't that Janet Reno, if you think he could, okay, allow this to happen where many people died, right?

Starting point is 02:14:59 And what almost you're saying is this was almost planned. If you're sitting there saying that, but you can't think that the Clintons, who are almost at the highest level power, couldn't kill off 60 people that have information that could lead to them getting in trouble? I think Waco, and you can see it on tape, Waco was these guys come in, just like they were crawling in, armed the the place........... to. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the thi. thi. their. thi. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I. they. I. they. they. they. they. I. the the the the the the the the thii. the thi. the thi. thi. I. thi. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. Ia. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. taken. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. th th Ridge. They're crawling in, armed to the teeth, they surround the place, we're gonna go ambush.

Starting point is 02:15:28 The guy goes, I have a right, defend myself. He sees these guys coming in, he's like, fuck this, he shoots back, kills one of the guys. Kills one of the, kills one of the FBI guys, or ATF guys. Okay. Bum, all all. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. the the they. they. the they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. the the th. the the th. th. the. the. ta. ta. ta. tea. tea. tea. toda. te. they. they. they. the the the the the fuck you, and now there's a standoff. Now guess what? The ATF is armed with the teeth and they're like, oh yeah? All right, now we're going in, we're going to war. And what happened? That's what you believe to, Dylan?

Starting point is 02:15:52 But that is what happened. That sounds great. You know, you know what happened with Ruby Ridge? Yeah, Brian, tell you, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, to, to, to, to, their, th, to tell you about all of our affiliates is a great way to support the sports show. As you know, Fiat money is chaos, okay, Fractural Reserve banking, dangerous, the best way to get out of it is precious metals in particular silver and gold, silver and gold and that's why we're working at wise wolf okay, wise wolf silver and gold just go to Sam Tripoli.com or Sam Tripoli. told and he's hooking you up. They got great, that you can either buy single time

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Starting point is 02:18:04 Where I feel we're in this kind of anti-business era where a lot of large businesses are trying to play to a bunch of investment firms for money in their company. And we've seen on a small scale that there's been pushback. What are your thoughts on that? I mean, what is socially responsible investments? I would say my definition is when you have win, win, win, win, not only for your portfolio, but for the other two pieces, the planet and other people. So give an example, there is a gold binding company in the middle of South America, somewhere in the Andes, very remote region, and the planet and other people. So give an example, there is a gold mining company in the middle of South America,

Starting point is 02:18:47 somewhere in the Andes, very remote region. They went to the school there and they set it up with Wi-Fi and they gave every kid a tab. Now, obviously that costs money out of that gold company's bottom line. But hey, lo and behold, six months down the road, when they were operating that mine, they didn't have indigenous protesters blockading the operations saying we were cut out of the profits. In fact, they support the mine because mine supported them. Now, whether or not they do it for altruistic reasons, or they do it because they are thinking about their own bottom line, it still has the same effect, right? they're still helping in that that that that that that community in that community in that community that community that community that community that community th. their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their own bottom line, it still has the same effect, right? They're still helping in that community. So even if we're kind of skeptical about social responsible investment or SRI,

Starting point is 02:19:29 or ESG, whatever you call it, it has that knock on effect of just aligning good community operations with good business operations. Does that make sense? Unless they gave kids the lab, the tablets because those kids were working overtime in the mine. So, so I understand what you're saying. There's a lot that I agree with you on like how we and I battle on this all the time about, you know, your feelings on the ethics of the company versus making a very smart investment. There's certain things I don't want to invest him. You know, I try my hardest.

Starting point is 02:20:09 If I could get out Black Rock, I would do it, but I think that that, at the, you know, if you go deep enough into who's investing, who's investing into the investment, to the investment, you're going to end up on Blackrock at some point. They've got their tentacles and everything. But you know, it's like not to get into a science discussion or anything, but like Howie and I disagreed on Pfizer. I wasn't a Pfizer fan.

Starting point is 02:20:34 How he was a Pfizer fan and how he vested it and how did you make money on that investment? I've made money on it right now. It's thirty nine, thirty eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight eight. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thirty. thi. they. they. they. they. they. the science. the science. the science. the science. the science. the science. the science. the science. the the the the science. the the the the the the science. the the the the the science. the th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. the. the. the's trading it right where I bought it. It's it 39 38 40 bucks but it again it pays a 4% yield so if it stays at 40 and inches up over the next three years it's a pretty good investment and I don't say I love the company. I love the fact that the company is worth billions and billions of dollars and they have good cash flow. It's what I like to call a pretty safe investment. So it's tough to disagree with that one. Well, that is the question. Like, how do you operate? We go deep home boy. Aaron, open your mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.

Starting point is 02:21:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron! This is only the beginning. There, you just move my mind. Tim foil hack. Tim foil hack.

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