Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #712: The Secret Society Of LDS Church Of Satan with The Chiller Queen

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Sam Troubly needs and we're in it. Very excited to have this next cast on. We have watched her from afar which sounds creepier than it is. I'm a fan of hers on Instagram and she's got a great podcast called the Chiller Queen podcast. Please welcome to Tim Fohaw. Avery Warner. How are you? I am wonderful. Thank you so much for having me on Sam. This is a this is a dream come true. I have been wanting to come on this podcast for a long time. I've been listening to you well before I was ever podcasting. So this is kind of surreal. I love it. This is great and I appreciate the kind words and I'm glad we could get you on. We've been trying to make this happen

Starting point is 00:02:07 for a little while. For those who may not be familiar with you Avery, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you? So a lot of people might know me from the reality television show 90 day fiancee before the 90 days season four. If you want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th we to th we th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. the the th th. the the, the the the the the the. We the the the the the the the the the th. We th. We th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th this th this th th this th. We th. this th. th. this th. this this this th. the. the. the. the. the. thea. this thea. thea. this thea. thea. thea. thea. the. Wea the. We've show 90-day fiancee before the 90 days season four if you want to watch my shit show of a love story but basically once I went on television I mean it my show aired in 2020 and once it went on television you know we had the pandemic and we were all isolated in our houses and that's kind of when I started awakening to, you know, some of the crazy corruption going on in this world, I guess you could say I got red-pilled. And, you know, during that time I had kind of like a promising career in television because I had a lot more shows in line coming up, but I

Starting point is 00:03:06 started speaking out against some of the stuff that just wasn't sitting right with me and it wasn't going along with the usual narrative and so you know I you know that ended up getting me canceled off of television which kind of pushed me into doing my own thing, which led me down this whole rabbit hole of trying to figure out what the hell is going on here. I love it. And so that's what kind of pushed me to create my podcast, so that my listeners can kind, to try and to figure out, you know, the nature of reality. I love it. I love it. I'm not the Johnny

Starting point is 00:03:48 Are you a 90-day fiance guy? I know that Jason Tibo and a bunch of them are? Yeah, yeah, we have a little text right about it. Yeah Now I don't watch it a lot. I watch it here and there, but you don't seem like the 90-day fiance person usually they're like they look like cafeteria ladies. It's all kinds of people. No. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their they. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm they. I'm their. I I I I I I I I I I I I I their. I I I I I I their. I I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their th. I'm not th. I'm not th. I'm not th. I'm not they. I'm not they. I'm not they. I'm not they. I'm not th. I'm not they. I'm not they. I'm the the 90-day fiancé person. Usually they're like, they look like cafeteria ladies. It's all kinds of people. No, it's all kinds of people. Really? Oh, yeah. And then they just go. They're starting to bring out a lot more like,

Starting point is 00:04:14 not the typical like super old woman with the random young dude who's catfishing her from a far like. Which I have no problems with by the way. I talk about all the time. I don't know why their women in their late 30s, 40s, 50s, don't get green card dick. I've been saying that forever. There's no. I don't know why we're okay with older guys getting like Japanese bitches, but then we get upset. We think some action. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their women. their women. their women. their their women. their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their. their women. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their women. their women. their women. their women. thethink it's weird when it goes the other way around. I have zero problems with it Get some action. Yeah, and you've worked hard

Starting point is 00:04:49 I mean as long as you're not doing it for a green card You know I'm saying oh, I'm cool. I'm doing it for a green card. I mean like and when that ends there's a whole village you can pull from So that's my opinion. Yeah, I'm down. So who did you? Okay. We're not th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to the. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. to tha. the. the. th. th. to's my opinion. That's true. Yeah, I'm dumb. So who did you? Okay, we're not gonna go too much into, but who did you get hooked up with? I was with Ash. He was from Australia. So, I mean, luckily I didn't have to go to a, like a third world country where like the culture was very different and nothing against third world countries. It's just some of the story story th th th th, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. that's th. th. th. thi. that's thi. thi. th. that's th. th. that's thi. that's th. that's thi. that's thi. that's that's that's that's thi. that's just some of the storylines that I have seen, it's like a huge cultural difference. And when you're like filming for a whole month in an area where it's

Starting point is 00:05:31 like completely different than anything that you were even used to, that would have terrified me. But I had, I had like such an amazing experience in Australia. It was awesome. I mean, Ash was all right too. You got a good-looking guy. They hooked you up with a good-looking guy. I mean, that at least worked for you. That's kind of cool. Well, they didn't hook me up. We're actually dating for nine months before. Oh. And then, oh. So like, they want to follow your love journey to like meeting for the first time and then, si thi thi the the tho tho they they they they want they want they want they want tho they want they want tho tho thi thi they want thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their to their to to to thi. thi. that's that's thi. that's you guys are going to get married and and if you get married then you get to go on happily ever after and then they follow your marriage. Oh that's great. And then when everything crumbles they have a like a rehab show now for you to go to therapy. It's so crazy to me because I'm so detached from television but it's like when you get into television it's just such a different vibe. But you've seen the no neck guy, right? The no neck guy. I love no neck guy. That was my season. Big Ed. Good for no neck guy. Good for no neck guy. I know that was actually my season. Big Ed stole the show. Oh, no, it's okay.

Starting point is 00:06:36 I mean, Big Ed just is like, I mean now the guy is just known everywhere. He's on a meme everywhere. He's just like, he's freaking crazy. I actually like Big Ed, but I also don't like Big Ed. Yeah, I get that. I get that. So, uh, Chiller Queen, it's very, first of all, before we get into it, you know, we've discussed this before. We have another podcast called Broken Sim. Somehow, Some way, you had a crush on Johnny Woodard and when... Why would you do that? She did, she said she had a crime. Why would you blow up her spot like that? Why?

Starting point is 00:07:12 Because she's in a committed relationship, that's why she's in a relationship, that's why you... But that's exactly why you don't break it up. Sorry, Johnny, you lost your chance. . to it. Wait, that's why you didn't want. I'm in a relationship too. That's what I'm saying. I mean, why would you? He doesn't want the tension. Johnny, it's okay to say somebody thought you were attractive and probably because they had a drinking problem.

Starting point is 00:07:32 Well, no, okay. So like I said, I've been listening to this Yes, everybody seems to. Yeah, everybody does not seem to you can tell from my Twitter timeline. Yeah It's okay. Well, that's fine. I'm glad we can make a magic happen. So we're happy to be we're happier on. This is great. So it's very interesting because You know, you want to talk about what do you want to talk about? So I really want to talk about this David Hamblin case at a provo? to pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro. to to to to to the to the to to their. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. to to to to to not. to not. It's. It's not. to not. to not. to not. to not. to not. to not. Yeah. to not. Yeah. Yeah. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's not. It's not the the the the the the the the the talk about? So I really want to talk about this David Hamblin case out of Pravo, Utah. It's the ritualistic child abuse case. It's a heavy topic. It's a dark topic, but I'm going to try not to like take it down those really dark avenues,

Starting point is 00:08:19 but it's a case that not a lot of people are talking about, especially in the media. There's like, if you look it up, there's not even very many videos on it. There's maybe a couple of local news reports that are out there talking about it. And I happened to stumble upon this case when I was researching into some other stuff that kind of went in line with it. And when I, when I got into it, it just like took me down this crazy rabbit hole and I'm like, this is going down right now in Provo, Utah. Yeah, and so I don't think a lot of people have much information on it, but it stems from, you know, this, this elusive LDS Church of Satan group that has been kind of

Starting point is 00:09:08 disguising itself within the Mormon church. And so that's kind of what I want to talk about today is like what was included in the victim's statements because they paint a very descriptive detail of this organization that allegedly a lot of people have been trying to take down for a long time. So I love, I love that we're going to talk about this. I'm going to be honest with you. We, we touched on this a couple of months ago, like a little bit. We didn't do a deep dive on, so I'm happy we're doing it right now. But when I hear what this guy does and his nickname, like I swear I just want to get on a plane and go fuck this dude up. I'm not even kidding. Like I am not even kidding. If I ever got diagnosed as like, hey, your days are numbered, I promise you the first thing I do is fly to and fuck this guy up. Like I don't... 100% I don't understand how anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody anybody the the the thany. th any th any th any th any th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I th. I th. I just I th. I just I th. I th. I just I th. I th. I th. I th. I just I th. I th. I just I th. I th. I th. I just I just I th. I just I just I just I th. I just I just I just I just I th. I just I th. I just th. I just th. I th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just th. I just thi th. I just I just I just I just I just I do is fly to and fuck this guy up.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Like, I don't understand how anybody in this town doesn't make this guy's life absolutely miserable. It's like when I see Anthony Wiener, I will see him in New York and I will let him know that I think he's a punk-ass bitch and if he wants to go outside we can go fucking do it. I mean, and this guy, and this guy is like, like just right there with there with there with there with there there th there th there th there th there th there th there th there th there th there th there th there this th. this thi. He this this this this this guy is th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's this guy is this guy is a this guy is a th. He's hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's he. He's is. He's is he. He's is he. He's is he. He's is he he's is a he he's is a he he he he this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this guy is a this guy is a th. He's a th. He's a th. I is a th. I's a th. I's a th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I can go fucking do it. I mean, and this guy, and this guy is like, just right there with Anthony Weiner. Like, look, this guy is a piece of shit. Like I forget what his nickname is, but when you think about what he does to children, the fact that this guy, anyone allows this dude to walk at all with any piece, any moment of his life is, is just a sign that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that the devil that the devil that that that that the devil that that that that the devil that that that that that the sign that that the devil runs this realm. That's to me the biggest sign that the devil runs this realm because this guy has any moment of peace. He shouldn't be allowed to sleep at night without thinking about people wanting to burn down his house. He shouldn't be able to leave the house wondering if today's the day he gets shot. Like this should be this guy's life for the rest. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the devil. He. He's, he's. He's. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the devil.e.e.e. the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, he's, the the the devil, the the the the devil, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the devil,ea's the the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, the devil, Iea, Iea, the devil, I to leave the house wondering if today's the day he gets shot. Like this should be this guy's life for the rest of his life to the day he takes his last

Starting point is 00:11:08 breath. His whole family should have to feel this pain. That's my opinion. So I want to get into it. I agree. Because this guy's a piece of shit, dude. There's like, you know, I know, I the the that we we think of the worst the worst, but this guy's right there. So where do you want to start?

Starting point is 00:11:28 So, I mean, okay, so there is so much details that I can't even cover the extensity of this case within just this podcast. So I'm to first start off by just saying, you know, I'm not a journalist, I am not an expert on ritualistic child abuse or any of that kind of stuff. Listener discretion is advised listening to this because some of this stuff could be triggering. But I'm just an independent researcher and when I came across this case it basically took me down like a wild rabbit hole of there was so much included in these victim reports of what happened to them and what occurred and you know the notable figure in

Starting point is 00:12:13 this whole thing is David Hamblin because he's the one who's front and center in getting prosecuted right now for this case but this case isn't just about David Hamblin. This is like an entire huge spider web that extends far beyond David Hamblin. And that's what really intrigued me about this case. But when I started going through and looking at all the victim statements, what I'm gonna be presenting to you guys is not me trying to convince you that there is this satanic organization that's operating out there or that I'm just trying to convince you of things that I'm just speculating on. This is actually, I'm going to be dissecting exactly what was included at these victim reports, the victim's reports, the victims, the records, the videos, all of that stuff, and began to read all of these statements.

Starting point is 00:13:12 There's eight victim statements, and what they paint in these statements is a very, very detailed picture of not just ritual abuse, but of this very organized satanic LDS Church of Satan that is operating within the LDS Church along with other religious sex that is basically using them as a guise for their organization to operate in. And so they, I mean, they have painted a picture of like their doctrines, their mythologies, their rituals, their ceremonies, and all the alleged members who are included in this, what they've done, what they've done to children, and I went through and I started analyzing all the statements that they were making and I'm like, okay, well, if I'm going to believe these very sensational claims that these victims are stating, then I need to, you know, take some of the claims that they're stating and do a little bit more research on, you know, could this stuff be believable? And that's kind of what has led me into creating this bonus series that I'm doing for my listeners because I can't detail everything in this one podcast.

Starting point is 00:14:36 But what I will say is right now, if you guys, if you're interested in this case after hearing it, if you guys want to learn more, you can, you know, I go into great detail. I have four episodes out right now, but and I have many more coming, but it really details all of the fine stuff that I have uncovered with my research for the last few months, on this David Hamlin case. So it's really crazy, you know, and so we get, you know, obviously like we were saying before the show, I go to Salt Lake, I'm going to be there next week, I'm looking and possibly doing some business in Salt Lake, love Salt Lake, you know, as soon as I left college, I mean, as soon I left high school, I moved from upstate New York to Las Vegas and you know, and that's where I met Mormons were really great. But like any structural group, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, their, their, their, their, to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, I go, I go where I met Mormons and the Mormons were really great. The Mormons are really great.

Starting point is 00:15:26 But like any structural group, I don't care what religion it is. You know a lot of people want to get into the Catholics are always like this, but you see it through Judaism, you see it through Muslims. You see it through almost every single group. I mean look at what, I mean, all the darkness within like any kind of the th almost every single group. I mean, look at what, I mean, Scientology, we look at like all the darkness within like any kind of formal structure that involves religion, when there is a power dynamic going on, there it tends to be positioning of people that have dark motives and are into dark arts. It happens every group. There's not one, very few of these religions, will you,

Starting point is 00:16:12 religions, not spirituality, and maybe even spirituality if you really did a deep dive into it. But we're talking more organized groups that you see this happen because it's, and this gets into like thisthis why I always say this is a war against God. We have you know it's like fallen angels versus God and when you get into asking people well why you atheists why you all this that they tend to want to be like well look what the church is done and like while the church is not God that is this is being positioned if you know. If you know that Hollywood is done. And like, while the church is not God, that is, this is being positioned. If you know that Hollywood is corrupt and you know that Washington, D.C. is corrupt, why wouldn't you corrupt this power structure at every moment, at every position? Why would you? Yeah. I mean, I would just take it and look at it this way, you know, where's the best place for Satan to be in is to be in the church and destroy it, right?

Starting point is 00:17:12 It's like, when you look at the institutional policies that a lot of these religious, you know, organizations have, the policies and the structure that they have, unfortunately, maybe in their eyes, is, you know, great in God's way because they don't want to be judged by, you know, the secular community, but unfortunately, some of those policies that they have where, I mean, it protects abusers. It's like a haven for these types of organizations to breed and to produce and to protect abusers and not necessarily victims. And it's not necessarily the religion itself. There's a lot of really amazing people in there that are there for God and to learn about God and to get closer to God.

Starting point is 00:18:03 But unfortunately, just like what you said, these, they're not, you know, they're not protected from the corruption and these predators and these people who come in and utilize them to commit these heinous things. I agree. And so, yeah, and what I will tell you is the interesting part about this case and we'll get into it too when we when we go into where the origins of this LDS Church of Satan came from it will kind of shock you when it comes to the Mormon religion. But I mean if you look at the the LDS Church

Starting point is 00:18:41 in and of itself with all the claims that are coming out, especially now, where you have the Ruby Frank case, I don't know if you guys have heard about that, but she just got arrested with Jody Hildebrandt in the same area where David Hamblin, you know, got taken down. They're part of the LDS church and they, you know, just got arrested for child abuse. And this is, and you look at the Boy Scouts of America. Is that the YouTube lady? Is that the YouTube lady? Yes, the eight passengers, YouTube lady.

Starting point is 00:19:15 Okay. And I'll even say more about that too, but I'm gonna give you a, I'm gonna just start diving into this. Okay, so David Hamblin, um, I was researching to just start diving into this David Hamlin. Okay, so David Hamblin, I was researching the Michael Aquino Temple of Set. I was doing a series on Satanism basically, trying to understand what Satanists believe. And when I was doing a series on Michael Aquino with the Temple of Set, I found that, you know, there was a lot of conspiracies that surrounded around him with the Satanic panic era. And for those who don't know, the the S the S the S the S the S the S the S, the S, thianic thianic. So, thii. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so. So, so. So, so. So, th. So, th. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, t. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. thi. So, there was a lot of conspiracies that surrounded around him with the satanic panic era. And for those who don't know, the satanic panic era, you know, originated in the, you know, 80s and 90s, and it was chalked off as basically like this mass hysteria.

Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. That Christians, you know, thought Satan was taken over the world and that they were there to, you know, make all of these crazy claims that there was this satanic cult that was ritualistically abusing children. And through that, through that whole entire thing, I mean, these claims were in the thousands across the nation, and a lot of the claims that the victims made were very similar to each other. They had a lot of the same stories and these were spread all over the place, even just in Utah, the place that we're going to be talking about, you know? And the Michael Aquino was tied to the Presidio daycare case in San Francisco. Real quick, I just want to say something real quick. It's real quick. I want to tell you about our friends at Fume. That's right. Cold turkey may be great on a sandwich, okay? But there's a better way to break your bad habits.

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Starting point is 00:22:43 you know, the red scare and then you get into Satanic panic. To me, all of this is done as a way that when the stuff really starts to come out, that everyone just goes, oh, oh, was this McCarthyism again? Oh, oh, everybody's a Marxist, right? And then they also do it with like, oh, oh, everybody, oh, what was this McCarthyism again? Oh, oh, everybody's a Marxist, right? And then they also do it with like, oh, every, oh, yeah, Satan's everywhere. And you saw that with each of these, you know, when people start going, oh, that guy's a common, people are like, oh, okay, what are you McCarthy? And then when all this satanic stuff started coming out, Everyone started, dude, it's just, th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, the. Oh, th. Oh, the, the, the, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, th. Oh, the, the, the, the, oh, oh, oh, everyone started going, dude, it's just a satanic panic again. And I go, no, it's not, because those guys were right.

Starting point is 00:23:30 They were all right. You may not like the way McCarthy handled it and maybe he was set up to do that, but he was totally right. And so wasn't the satanic panic stuff. Because when you actually, we have people on here all the time when we get into this daycare story like nobody told you they found tunnels underneath the daycare right yeah nobody told you that and I'm sorry I love my friends who have done interviews with the Memphis three but we've had enough people that have come on here and drop real knowledge and say those guys are guilty.

Starting point is 00:24:07 And this was all a movement again by all your favorite Hollywood Satanists. And listen, we could love Johnny Depp because how he got treated by Amber Heard, but Johnny Depp is a dark arts dude. And he was standing behind all those guys too. And if they, you break it down, okay, again, this was a precursor to, oh my god, just satanic panic again, and that's what they're doing. So, that's, yeah, you're right, you mentioned it now, you sound like a crazy person. Like, who does rituals? That's not real. Yeah, Super Bowl, they're doing rituals.

Starting point is 00:24:41 That's the whole thing with this is that the the claims are so sensational and because they have an element of like Satan in them that it's it more brings like the religious aspect into it and it makes it hard for these cases to be prosecuted. But what I'll say is that like when you dive into some of the, like if you look at all the articles that were written during the satanic panic era and there were a lot of detailed articles and a lot of the media was reporting about some of the some of the things in this case but once they started getting chocked off and dismissed in the courts as like you know these that some of the

Starting point is 00:25:21 doctors were in on it and all this other stuff, and basically threw out all these claims, it was like the media did like a 180 and just started saying that, you know, this was all a mass satanic hysteria and, you know, since then, it's been like, this is why I feel like they aren't really covering the David Hamlin case because it's like they don't want want to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they.. they. I they. I they. I. I they. I the they. I's the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the, the, the. I'm, the. I's, the, the, the, their, the, the, the media.e, the media.. I, the media... I, the media.. I, the media... I, the media. I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. It's, they.eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea. It's, the the the the thlin case because it's like they don't want to create another mass hysteria or even give any type of credibility to these victims or their cases. And so when you look at some of the claims that were made during the satanic panic with these victims, you can find so much evidence that points to yes, these victims had at least been abused in some sort of way. Maybe not all of their claims are true, but we can't necessarily say that they are or they aren't, but there is actual evidence that some of this stuff did actually occur.

Starting point is 00:26:20 And so, you know, by this all getting just dismissed and discredited, it kind of like left this open, you know, gap for all these conspiracies to come in and start like being created around this whole thing. You know, a lot of people are out there trying to provide evidence that this is happening, and then you have the other side who's just like chocking it off as just, you know, satanic panic and they're not really in on this. And so, when I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. then you have the other side who's just like chocking it off as just, you know, satanic panic and they're not really in on this. And so when I, you know, stumbled upon, when I was researching into this, you know, with the satanic panic era, I stumbled upon the David Hamlet case and I don't even know how I stumbled upon it because it was just like one little article. And what intrigued me about his case was that he just got arrested last year, March of 2022, for accusations of ritualistic child abuse out of Pravo, Utah that went back decades that started in the era of the satanic panic. And that's what got me like, oh, that's interesting because now we have somebody who's getting arrested for something that happened during the Satanic Panic era, where there were claims being, that were coming out

Starting point is 00:27:31 in the same area that he was doing all of these things, but that was chocked off as a mass hysteria. And so now he's arrested, and now we have all this stuff coming out. So then I started going into his case. And basically, this is the summary of like the David Hamlin case. So he in, so in 2012, his daughters came out, basically they went to the police and they came out stating to them that they have been ritualistically abused for decades since the time that they were born from their father and not just their father. They claimed that they were being ritualistically abused by their mother as well who's Rosie Hamblin, Rousel Hamblin, as well as all members of their family, which means their paternal grandparents, their maternal grandparents, their aunts, uncles, the wives of

Starting point is 00:28:31 their aunts and uncles, brothers, or the sisters and brothers of, you know, both the mother and the father, and that it didn't stop there. It extended to many other prominent figures within the LDS Church and you know people who were very prominent figures in like the the political and business establishment in Utah just all these allegations right so they came forth in 2012 and basically had just such these sensational claims, talking about how they were ritualistically murdering children, they were cannibalizing children, they were part of all of these ceremonies, these rituals, and then gave a lot of detail on what was being done to them. And the police kind of looked at this

Starting point is 00:29:25 and they're just like, okay, well, this happened a long time ago, and we now need to find evidence that you've actually been abused. Because not only are you claiming that David Hamblin is abusing you guys, but you're also claiming that there's murder involved, there's all these different, you know, things that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that there's murder involved, there's cannibalism, there's all these different, you know, things that can be charged, you know, but they're trying to find evidence for this stuff. And so what they do is they, you know, David Hamblin was a psychologist in Pravo, Utah, and what he was doing was he was, he basically set up this therapy.

Starting point is 00:30:07 He didn't have a practice, but he set up therapy within his house. And he would invite, you know, prominent people who were his patients and he would invite like victims. And all these different types of things to his house as his patients. And what he would do is he would, it was basically like a front for a lot of the stuff that he was doing, which was like prostituting his children out. And you know, he was using, the patients would come in for therapy sessions and he would allow them to abuse his children during these therapy sessions and then use the payments for that.

Starting point is 00:30:49 It was basically like a money laundering thing where it was like they could make payments for therapy but it was really payments for abusing his children and stuff like that. So murder that. Yeah, so the children in the statement basically said that. So murder that when he yeah so so the children in the statement basically said that David Hamblin he was an LDS member of the church and on the outside it looked like their family was part of the LDS Mormon religion and what they said was that this was basically a guise to the fact that they were actually part of this elusive LDS Church of Satan, which actually goes back multi-generations.

Starting point is 00:31:32 And that there were a very, there was a lot of people who were part of this church of Satan and that this was like a familial thing. So this was a multi-generational organization that was operating within the church. And so that's why you have the paternal grandparents, the maternal grandparents, all the people that were in there, as well as, you know, why a lot of these claims

Starting point is 00:32:00 talk about how they were abused by not just some random person, but a lot of times it was the parents and it was the family that that that that that that that that that that that that that they were abused by not just some random person, but a lot of times it was the parents and it was the family that was involved in this because this is a multi-generational thing. And so... It's crazy, dude. Yeah, so basically they're talking about how, you know, all these things were being done to them and the police were like, okay, well we need evidence that this is happening because we don't, we the the their their their their thi thi thi th. th. thi thi th. th. th. thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. was was was was was was was was was was was was th. was was th. was th. was th. was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. thi. thi. thi.s were being done to them and the police were like, okay, well, we need evidence that this is happening because we don't, we can't get evidence that shows that you've been abused because it's been so long. And these claims are so, you know, sensational. Why don't we wire you up and you can go to your mom and your dad and try and confront them and see if they will confess to these crimes. And this was in 2012, right? So they wire up one of the daughters.

Starting point is 00:32:47 The daughter goes to David Hamblin and she says, basically, why did you rape me? And this is the, sorry, this is the crazy part, is that she goes to David Hamblin and this is what he says on tape, He says, I am so sorry for raping you. And he's like, he basically skates around it. He's like, I'm not saying that it's not true. I'm not saying that it didn't happen. But what I'm saying is that whatever or it wasn't me that did it, it was what was inside of my body. Basically, insinuating that there's this dark force or this dark entity that was doing these things to them that was operating within inside of him, right? Oh my God. Yeah, and so that was caught on tape and he confessed to it basically at that time,

Starting point is 00:33:41 but he was blaming it on some dark force that was inhabiting his body. And so then the daughter goes to the mother, Rizel, because all over in the victim's statements, Rizel is very much a part of this abuse, like very extensively. And so she goes to Rizzo and she says, you know, like, why did you do this to us? Why did you do this to me and my sister? And she is like, I have no idea what you're talking about. I literally have no recollection, no memory of this. And then she says something really interesting.

Starting point is 00:34:17 She says, the only thing I can think of is that David Hamblin, which they're not, they weren't weren't, they weren't, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thrown, thrown, the, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to told, to to to to to, to, to to to, to, to, to to, to, th, th, th, th weren't married at the time anymore, they were divorced. She said David Hamblin was really good at programming and he must have programmed me to do those things and that's why I don't remember. And that stuck out to me as well because... So this is their mom or their step mom? This is their mom saying that. Oh my... God. Yeah, so that, so that, so that, so that, so that, so that, so that, so the th, so the the th, so th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, thi, thi thi thi thi tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th is their mom or their step mom? This is their mom, their mom saying that. Oh my God. Yeah, so the mom's basically saying that she was programmed and doesn't remember abusing them and then David Hamblin is saying that he did abuse them but it was some dark entity that was within him that did that. So at that time, and this is the crazy part of. the police still still did th th thi they did they did they did they did they did they did they did they didn they didn they didn they didn't they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. they they th. th. th. they th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. tho. the. tho. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.. So at that time, and this is the crazy part, so at that time, the police still didn't prosecute.

Starting point is 00:35:07 They thought they didn't have enough evidence at that time. So they dismissed it without prejudice, meaning they can collect more evidence and then reopen the case later. So when these girls came forward, there were some other victims that caught wind of them coming forward. And they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their th, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, ththey wanted to give credibility to these victim's statements because the case had basically got dismissed. And so they came forth, and there was one victim that came forth named Brett Bluth. And Brett Bluth was a patient of David Hamblens.

Starting point is 00:35:38 He wasn't underage. He was, I think he was in his early 20s and he was part of the LDS church and he was struggling with homosexuality. And so he went to his bishop and he basically told him, you know, like I think I'm gay, I'm struggling with homosexuality, what do I do? And the bishop referred him to David Hamblin for therapy people. Because allegedly David Hamblin was really good at he had this this through a series of hypnosis he had this therapy that he

Starting point is 00:36:13 could reverse homosexuality within people and and so it had been proven before so he real quick I just want to say some this is a big reason why when I get into Christianity and all this stuff and you know, it's why I'm just never going to be part of this like demonized gay people because I have friends that I'm pretty sure either kill themselves or drink themselves to death because they could deal with the fact that they they were gay. And I just don't think I'm ever, I have zero desire to, I have zero desire to be a part of that. And so I'm never going to be that.

Starting point is 00:37:00 So when I see a lot of these people on the right starting to like ease back, you start getting right back into that, demonizing all gay people and all that stuff, like I have zero desire to participate in any of that. I have one rule is like you don't hurt, hurt people, in particular children, and you'll never hear for me, you know, and your connection with God. I will never be somebody who does that because I just think this is what happens. You have people go through emotional and mental torture and they either drink themselves to death or off themselves because they just don't find their place in society.

Starting point is 00:37:37 And I just think it's like, you know, and personally, I don't think your sexuality should define who you are as a person. I just don't. You know, as much as I, I like as much of these people like they're in the, who are part of the whole queer theory movement, I just don't think that should be who you all, I'd like to define you as a person. And I agree. So I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want think to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thoomorrhue, thoomorrhue, thoomorrhue, thoomcholk, thoomch, thoomch, thoomomomomch, thoomomomomomomomch, thoom, thoom, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thr, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, define, throomaau.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.au.a, define, define, define, define, I, define So I don't want to I don't want to demonize gay people and I also don't want to think that you should have to come out and that should be everything about your life. You should just live your life and whatever you do behind closed doors as long as you're not hurting people and you're not hurting people and

Starting point is 00:38:13 you're not hurting people and particularly children. You won't hear anything for me. I just want to get out because I've seen this happen where people women-in people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people. their. their. their. their. th. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm just th. I'm just th. th. I'm just th. I'm just th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to. I'm to. I'm to to to to to to thi. to thi. to thi. thi. thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi. I thi't come to group to who they are and it just destroys them spiritually. I agree but I also think too even just a religion there's just a lot of judgment in religion when religion I mean Jesus teaches that we should be non-judgmental you know so there's like even if you didn't agree with the sexuality of somebody and they're a great person like it's not even your business you know like even if you don't agree like with your own religious beliefs like you're you should never condemn somebody else because it's not even your job you know it's not your position you aren't even called to judge people and so I'm 100% on board with that where I have a lot of gay friends and I love them to death and I think they're amazing people. And you know, even if I didn't have that particular like, you know, I don't have a belief on it whatsoever

Starting point is 00:39:12 necessarily but just from a religious aspect, it's like who am I to tell them that anything, you know, we're not supposed to. That's what Jesus. I think that, you know, there are some things that, which is basically basically, you have, you have, the ethics, the ethics, you have, to, the ethics, to, the ethics, the ethics, th.. You, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. that, thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I. And, I, I. And, I. And, I. And, I, I. And, I, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th supposed to. Yeah, I agree. I think that, you know, there are some things that, which is basically ethics of Jesus and God into your, and that's it, if you're going to be a Christian. That seems to be that and, you know, so every teach their own again and that's my opinion. Teach their own. As long as you know, you know, you don't hurt people in particular people in people, th. and particularly children. Go on, sorry. I just wanted to get it. So, so with Brett Bluth, he, you know, he was part of the LDS church and he's struggling with his homosexuality. He gets referred to David Hamblin and so he begins these

Starting point is 00:39:54 sessions with David Hamblin and David Hamlin basically tells him, I'm going to be putting you through a series of hypnosis basically to kind of like rewire your brain and figure out where this homosexuality urge is stemming from. And so he's going through these through these like hypnosis, he's trying to induce hypnosis on Brett Bluth and throughout the whole time Brett Bluth is very coherent. He doesn't even feel like he's going into a hypnotic state at all. He's very aware and eventually David Hambling comes out and tells him like, oh through your hypnosis you revealed to me that you were sexually abused by the satanic cult and that's where all this this stuff is coming

Starting point is 00:40:41 from and Brett Bluse's like I don't remember. Like I've been coherently aware. I've been present this whole time. I, you know, I've never been abused. I don't, I don't even have any memory of that whatsoever. And he's like, oh, well, you know, let's just continue the therapy. You know, let's just dig out where this is coming from. And so throughout this process, he keeps putting him under these, you know, these hypnotic states or alleged hypnotic states. I thought he was going to do the thing where your parents catch you smoking cigarettes.

Starting point is 00:41:14 They make you smoke a million cigarettes. He's gonna be like, blow me a thousand times. And then, no, that was uncomfortable. Oh, just wait. Oh, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th. th. th. th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeee. thooooooooooooooooo. th. th. th. th. th on. Oh, just wait. Oh, just wait, Camel. I made a joke and then it becomes real. Oh, go on, sorry. And so, so he's sitting there through, so, so one day Brett Bluth wakes up and he looks down and he has this symbol carved in his arm. And he wonders where it came from, right?

Starting point is 00:41:40 And he goes to David Hamblin. And he shows him the symbol and he's like, I don't know why I carved this symbol into my arm and David Hamlin's like, oh, that's interesting because I have another, I have another patient who is suffering from satanic ritual abuse and just the other day she showed me the symbol and it's in my notebook and that he pulls up his notebook and he shows it to Brett Bluth. And Brett Bluith sees that and he's like, oh my gosh, maybe I am part of this satanic ritual abuse, you know, and now I'm starting to trust what David Hamlin's telling me because I didn't even know about that

Starting point is 00:42:26 symbol and now I'm carving it in my arm, you know, and now it's like Brett Bluth's kind of like now taking, yeah, credibility, but what what actually happened was that through the hypnotic state, thrown, thrown had actually exposed this symbol to Brett Bluke through the hypnotic state. And that basically was like imprinted into th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to Brett Blu through the hypnotic state. And that basically was like imprinted into his mind. And when Brett Bluth went through a very depressive period, he had carved it onto his arm and had shown it to him. Yeah, so it's like these mental manipulation techniques that he was using to basically get into his head and make him believe that he was being

Starting point is 00:43:06 ritualistically abused so that he could come up with the therapy, right? And so he starts to trust David Hamlin that maybe he is like part of this abuse. So David Hamlin basically tells him that you were ritualistically abused by men and that's why you have these homosexual tendencies and the only way to get rid of this is to take in the, you know, seaman of a righteous man. And then he gives himself, he volunteers himself to be the righteous man. What a gentleman.

Starting point is 00:43:47 Oh my. What a gentleman. I mean, do you know any righteous men? I mean like, I don't guess anybody around. I guess I'm pretty good. I guess I'm pretty good. Oh man, dude. I wasn't hypnotized at all.

Starting point is 00:43:56 Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. What guys do to get laid, it's unbelievable. I love him, he's like, dude, I wasn't hypnotized at all. He's like, oh really. Yeah, yeah. Let's see. Let's see about that. But back to that real quick, then we'll get into the creepiness thing. But have you ever been, let the television on and been dreaming?

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Starting point is 00:45:05 So he goes through the abuse with David Hamblin and afterwards he feels... It's so crazy. Did he go, okay, explain to me how that works? Like explain to me if I, I blow you, how does that cure me? Do you ask that question? I've got the magic jizz inside of me, and then you'll have it inside of you. I just, like, the same will go,

Starting point is 00:45:30 well, why does that work? Like, what is it? What is happening? I would have been like, do I have options? Yeah. I'd like, why is it only you? I have to say though, if you're already believing that magic underwear are protecting you, you know, it's not that great of a leap to magic jinn. I get that, but dude, I mean, especially if you kind of are badly that you might like

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Starting point is 00:46:51 broken thinking that he was actually being ritualistically abused by all these Satanists and that he had experienced all these things and he goes into the severe depression, never had really any issues before that, just homosexuality. And now all of a sudden he is like in a very dark place and all he wants is to be better and this therapist who has convinced him that you know he can trust him is now saying like you know you you now have to have sex with a righteous man. It's so weird. In order to like cure this. And so, and so, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he, he, he, he, he, he, he he he he he he he he is, he is, he is like, he is, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is, he is like, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is he is he is he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he is he is he is he is he is he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is he is like, he is he is like, th. th. He is like, th. He is like, th. He is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is like, he is he now have to have sex with a righteous man. It's so weird. In order to like cure this. And so the, so right after the abuse happens, Brett is like, disgusted. And he's like, this is not right. This did not work. This did not help me.

Starting point is 00:47:41 By the way, I'm not gay. I just found out. I just found out I'm not gay. So it worked. I mean, that's why the guy, that's why he kept sending people to him because it works. It works. It worked every time. A weird way did work. Well, well ironically, Brett is still gay. But he had this feeling afterwards that was like, dude this is wrong. Thatthat was so wrong, you know, this didn't work, blah, blah, blah. So then he goes to David Hamblin and he tells him, he says, if you don't report this to Doppel, which is the people who license him, then I'm going to go there and I'm going to report the fact that you're having sex with your patients. And so David Hamlet himself calls Doppel and not only confesses to having sex with Brett, he confesses to having sex with multiple patients. And then Doppel takes his license away. So then David Hamblin now decides, okay, I'm going to

Starting point is 00:48:39 become a medicine man. I'm going to become a shaman and I'm joining the Native American church. And now I'm going to conduct my therapy sessions through healing ceremonies where I can administer Peyote, which is a psychedelic drug, to the people and then help them heal their traumas that way, okay? And so he starts becoming this Native American medicine man and he joins the Native American church run by James Mooney, which in the victim's statements, James Mooney is also claimed as being part of this LDS Church of Satan who have abused these victims. So he joins the Native American church and in another victim's statement that came forth, this girl, and I'm telling you these

Starting point is 00:49:26 two stories because it's going to become really important later, but this girl who wasn't part of the family, she was somebody else, she was part of the LDS religion, she was looking for some sort of healing, and it was kind of controversial at that time, but they were open to have being like healing ceremonies and like energy healing work and things like that in the LDS Church. And so she gets referred to these healing ceremonies with David Hamblin. And she shows up to the ceremony and they start giving everybody this paody and apparently this is a group of people who are either trying to heal from trauma or they've been abused in some way, and he's there to kind of guide them through their abuse and help them.

Starting point is 00:50:11 And so she's there and she takes the paody, but she starts to kind of hallucinate, but it's not, she's not at a certain level like the other people. So she's very coherent and she remembers everything that happened there. And she says once everything started getting started and you know everyone started beginning to hallucinate, they change into these different colored robes. And she said that the the aura of the the ceremony started to change and feel really dark. And she said that David Hamlin came to her and started trying to tell her that she had been ritualistically abused by the satanic organization. And she's like, no I

Starting point is 00:50:55 wasn't. And he goes, yeah, it was your father. It was your father who abused you. He's part of the satanic, this satanic group and that's where all this trauma is coming from. And he starts telling other people there in the ceremony as well, and the other people in the ceremony is like believing it, you know, they're playing into this. And she's like, no, I've never been harmed by my father. And he basically starts beating it into her head that she is, she has been ritualistically abused, by the satanic group and then makes her confess to the whole group that she had been sodomized and that she had experienced

Starting point is 00:51:33 all these things at the hands of her father. And so she had to get up and admit it to everybody. And she says at that point she feels this dark force like come up her leg and into her groin area. And she like come up her leg and into her groin area and she like looks up at David Hamblin and sees like his face just looks super dark and she said that the whole energy of the ceremony changed after that and she's like this isn't healing. She's like this is more of like some sort of satanic ritual.

Starting point is 00:52:02 She's like I just felt very weird, and I felt like I needed to get out of there. And so she leaves and she says that this dark force followed her home. And she could feel a lot of like, there were weird things that were happening. She had to go to her bishop and get a cleanse and all this other stuff in order for it to go away.

Starting point is 00:52:22 And so I bring up these two cases because when we're talking about the elements of, like a lot of these people talk about how they were ritualistically abused in, and you know, by satanic groups and all this other stuff, and they're very detailed about what has happened. There's a huge element of programming and mind control that runs throughout all of these victims statements and

Starting point is 00:52:47 Those two people were the ones who are basically talking about how they were being forced to try and believe that they were part of some Satanic organization or cult that they were being abused from and I guess they actually maybe were But maybe not to the extent of what some of the other victims had said. It's such a weird play, right? Because you're fully into it. And then, yeah. Now you're telling people that they got done to them in the past. I wonder what the play is on that. Oh, I 100% believe that it is to avoid prosecution. Because, and this is why I think that this is so, so important to their practice, because when you look at a lot of these MK ultra victims, you say that they were like programmed to be sex slaves and they were programmed to do all these different things, and they have very detailed

Starting point is 00:53:40 memory of, you know, people being ritualistically abused, children being murdered, you know, all these crazy sensationalized things, that I believe have elements of truth mixed with elements of falsity that were planted there in order to evade prosecution because let's just say a victim goes to the police and they say I have been abused by my father. By the way it's also part of this organized satanic group that also murders children they also cannibalized children I've been a part of all of these things and now the police goes okay you're making all these claims I can find evidence you've been a part of all of these things, and now the police goes, okay, you're making all these claims. I can find evidence you've been abused, but I can find absolutely zero evidence that anyone's been murdered. I can't find evidence of this organization.

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Starting point is 00:55:14 that you can find throughout all of these claims. Is that there's like this element of, like a lot of these people are therapists. It's just like the Jody Jody, or the Jody Hildebrant. She was a therapist, thera, and she thera, and she the the the thera, and she the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the these people are therapists. It's just like the Jody or the Jody Hildebrandt. She was a therapist and she did exactly like the victims that are coming forth with the Jody Hildebrant case with the eight passengers. A lot of them are claiming that they're, I mean, Jody Hildebrandt used the exact same tactics that David Hamblin did and got in their families and did all this stuff.

Starting point is 00:55:48 And by the way, all the claims in that situation like with the Ruby Frank, they talk about how this is a multi-generational abuse in her case. And so you have all the sudden, so many of these claims talking about how this is a multi-generational organization that is passed down from child to child. So the abused becomes the abuser and that all of this is for this doctrine, which is this LDS Church of Satan. And so they, you know, not only in these statements, and when you read them, it is easy to be like, okay, this just seems so bizarre and so like crazy

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Starting point is 00:57:19 of this has no evidence, right, that people are going to now push back on any accusation. So when the really dark stuff to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be like the me to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me the me to be to be to be to be to be like to be like tooome tooomeat. tooomeat. tooom. tooomeat. tooom. tooomeat. tooomeathea toe the th. to now push back on any accusation. So when the really dark stuff starts to come out, everyone's going to be like, oh, no, that's no, that's real. So now what do we have is we have Russell Brand coming out and what's everybody doing? Not, not real. That didn't happen. Push back on it and everything like that. And so not that, I mean, I don't think Russell Brand is an abuser. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It thi. It thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. And so not that I mean, I don't think Russell Brand is an abuser. I do think he had a giant sex addiction like a lot of these guys and that again, we've set this thing where it's weaponized regret, right? But you are looking at everyone going, didn't happen, didn't happen.

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Starting point is 00:59:49 I mean, everybody plays off of their own biases. And that's why, even with this Russell Brand thing and even with the, I'm sorry to say this, but Tim Ballard from, you know, the sound of freedom and, you know, I've looked a lot into him to th, th, of that because I am not going to be on board for just completely, you know, like, I'm an advocate for victims because I am one. And so I don't automatically just come out before any type of evidence or anything is out there to just say and discredit a victim, you know? And so I always wait and see, but it's blown my mind just even with like the recent allegations

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Starting point is 01:01:55 discredit everything else that they're saying when all of a sudden they start saying these you know very sensationalized things, but I think that is very strategically done by the abusers Because like let me take for instance I listened to your guys is episode where you had somebody who was a expert therapist who who? You know gave therapy ritual abuse victims, right and you guys were trying to figure out like is this is their evidence? Is there true, right? And one thing that really stood out to me of what he said was that? th, you? th, you? th, you? th, you? th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, because, thi, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, thi, because, because, because, because, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th., th., th., th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. ththis is their evidence is they're true right and One thing that really stood out to me of what he said was that you know He had a patient who thought that she had given birth to multiple children and that the birthing was just basically to to make babies For this this group of, you know, ritual abusers to you know either sacrifice the kids or or whatever it is and that when it th, th, th, th, th th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. thi thi, the. the. the. the. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi the the the the the the the the. the. the the the. the the the the the the the that that that that that the you know, either sacrifice the kids or whatever it is, and that when it came down to it and she got checked by the doctor, it actually turned out that she was a virgin. So there was evidence to show that no, she had never had these children,

Starting point is 01:02:57 but in her mind, she fully 100% believed that she had given birth to multiple children that were being used in, you know, ritualistic ways. And so I think through the process of how they abuse these people, and it's so easy to do a children, because children can be coached, you can implant things easily into their brain, and without even knowing it. You know, you can talk to a child, and if you're not educated on how to get information from a child, you can actually just plant the information into the child's mind.

Starting point is 01:03:34 And then the child will start saying it, right? So if we're, you know, and that's why I think there's just so much muddy in the water when it comes to this satanic panic era is that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I think there's just so much muddy in the water when it comes when it comes to this satanic panic era is that yes, I do think that there are some elements of people putting things into the kids' heads and them running with it, but also there's evidence that these children were abused. You don't have children getting clemidia and have never been sexually abused, you know? And there were children who were reported to have STDs. How do you get STDs as a three-year-old? You know? It's like, there's obvious abuse going on, but now you have to sift through this illusion

Starting point is 01:04:18 that they have created to get down to the meat of it, right? And so it's easier just to dismiss it than to prosecute it. And I think that's a huge element of this. And so with this LDS Church of Satan, these girls, when you look at it, like, they have painted such a, such a detailed picture of this organization. They talk about the mythology, they talk about the bloodlines, so with this LDS Church of Satan, it's important for purity of their bloodlines. And so this, that's why it's a familial thing, that's why it's an incestuous thing, because they believe that the more pure

Starting point is 01:05:01 that your bloodline is, the greater power and status you have with Satan. And the greater power and status that you will have when he comes back and conquers Jehovah God. Hold on, let me ask you something real quick. You keep referring it to the LDS Satan, which is, I know it as the Church of Latter-day Saints. but you're trying to say that this organization literally worship Satan? Like, so, no, so, okay, let me, let me kind of, I'm gonna, so. Again, and I just want to say that, you know, I love Mormons. This is not a thing against Mormon, this is against this particular group, so I want people to understand that, you know, and within any group, it's my bit about how everybody's retarded.

Starting point is 01:05:50 Like within every group, there are idiots and scumbags. And what we get into in this moment where we defend the entire group, we defend individuals by defending the entire group instead of going well the whole group isn't like that it's this one scumbag and I hate the scumbag too and that's every group you see it done on a very large scale right now with with Judaism stuff like that instead of like calling out individuals you have people defending the entire group and it for me it's like white people should be the standard in which how we treat all groups which is everybody white people

Starting point is 01:06:29 are the only ones who have to go it's not us it's this one group this person's an idiot every other group defends the entire group and it's like an assault on one is an assault on one is an assault on one and the rest of the group should be like dude we, we're not that guy, feel free to light him the fuck up, okay? Like, that's my opinion. So I just wanted to get it, say that real quick, so everyone understands where we're from. Yeah, that's good. I just want to make sure I clarify on that because I don't not to be confused with Anton Levey's Church of

Starting point is 01:07:06 Satan, okay, because that's a completely different sect. Anton Leve did not believe in Satan himself. The Church of Satan, when we talk about the Church of Satan, even just in Anton Leve, a lot of his philosophy was just an inverse to the Christian theology. Okay, so like, he's just a fucking dork. He's just a Dungeons and Dragons dork trying to bang fat goth chicks. That's all that, that's all these people are. They're just nerd, dungeons and dragon, nerd dorks,

Starting point is 01:07:36 trying to act cool for fat goff chicks. That's my humble opinion. Yeah, well, a lot of these churches, you churches, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thich, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, which there's various different sex, we're not just talking and columping them all into one belief, but all of these sex are usually an inverse to whatever, you know, the opposite is, right? So when we're talking about the LDS Church of Satan, what we're talking about is an inverse to the LDS doctrine. So there is the Mormons, and then there are the LDS, the LDS, the LDS doctrine. So there is the Mormons and then there are the LDS Church of Satan. It's just like if you had Christians versus the Church of Satan. So LDS Church of Satan is actually just the inverse belief of what the LDS belief is. And when we get into the origins of where this this alleged group has allegedly originated from, then it will make a little bit more sense to you on where this split in the Mormon church.

Starting point is 01:08:33 So yeah, so okay, so with this LDS Church of Satan, they're very particular on their bloodlines. This is a familial thing. They're very much about purity of the bloodlines. And so that's why you have like the importance of understanding the mythology and the and the LDS history and where everything came from. The reason why a lot of people can look at these claims and go, they're so sensational, I can't believe it when you have, I mean, how do you have the mother, the grandparents, the brother, the sister all involved in this? That........ that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that. That. That. That's, that that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi. thi. That's, th. That you have I mean how do you have the mother the grandparents the brother the sister all involved in this like that's just crazy I could never get my whole family involved in this blah blah blah you know what I mean so people look at that and they go

Starting point is 01:09:14 that's just crazy but until you look at the historical doctrines of the LDS Church and you look at the belief system within the LDS Church I'm talking about Mormon is not the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Ch the Ch. the Ch. the Ch. the Chi the Chi. the belief system within the LDS church, I'm talking about Mormon, it's not the Church of Satan, you can kind of give, it's more not, it's not implausible to believe what these people are saying. Because with the LDS Church of Satan, they're very much about like, you know, incest polygamy, keeping the bloodlines pure so they, Church of Satan, they're very much about like, you know, incest polygamy, keeping the bloodlines pure, so they inbreed a lot, and you know, they can only marry other Church of Satan members.

Starting point is 01:09:55 They have a high council, so there's multiple groups, and for each group, there's a high council. And they actually operate their ordinance is within the Manti Utah Temple according to the victim statements. Everything I'm saying is according to the victim statements plus some of the research that I've done on the side. But they have, I mean they, you can trace their bloodline back to the beginning of the LDS church. So I'm going to tell you guys a little bit of a story, so you guys kind of understand how the Mormon church kind of came about and where this whole, there's a conspiracy that's going

Starting point is 01:10:41 on within the Mormon church, which actually revolves around pligamy, but that's where this whole thing kind of originated. And this comes from the victim's statements. So I mean, do you guys know the history of the LDS church? No, I'd love to hear it. Okay. So, okay. So with Joseph Smith, basically, like, in 18, he was born in the 1800s. And Joseph Smith goes out into the woods. He's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, kind thi, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind thi, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind, kind th, kind, kind, kind, kind, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, kind th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he was born in the 1800s and Joseph Smith goes out into the woods, he's like in his 20s or whatever, he goes out into the woods and he gets this vision. He gets his first vision and it's of God the father and God the son. They come to him basically in the woods and he, you know, at the time they were really religious. So Joseph Smith asked God the father and God the son, you know, what's the right denomination? And God the father tells him that they're all an abomination, that, you know, all of them are bad. So Joseph Smith basically goes back to his mom, tells him or tells her that, you know, all the religions

Starting point is 01:11:46 are bad and she basically brushes him off, right? And so, um, so later, he, there's this, uh, uh, Moroni, this angel that comes to his bedside, and basically tells him that there's these gold tablets and that on the gold tablets there's these two stones and that you know you can use the stones that are on the gold tablets to translate the scripture within the gold tablets and this basically gets eventually translated into the Book of Mormon. But basically tells him where these gold tablets are. And so Joseph Smith goes off and he finds these gold tablets and he comes back and he's like, I have these gold tablets and tells his family,

Starting point is 01:12:40 his family is like, oh my gosh, you're right, you're true, you know, there is this other religion, whatever, and tells the church. And the church basically like scrutinizes his family, and basically, you know, they go under a lot of scrutiny, and so Joseph Smith and his wife, Emma, head off to Pennsylvania to like kind of escape the scrutiny. And then so basically you know after they moved there they had the gold tablets and the third cousin of Joseph Smith's mother was named Oliver Crowdery and he basically in 1829 he sets off to visit Smith when he learned that he had obtained these tablets which basically led him to becoming

Starting point is 01:13:31 Joseph Smith scribe and translating the gold tablets basically into what is known as the Book of Mormon right now. So in 1830 the Church of Christ that was the original church was formed by six men at the home of Peter Whitmore. the Church of Christ, that was the original church, was formed by six men at the home of Peter Whitmore. And Peter Whitmore had this son-in-law, and his name was Haram Page, who allegedly was one of eight witnesses who personally saw and got to handle these gold tablets. So a few months later, after this whole thing had started, Joseph Smith shows up to Whitmer's house and basically sees Haram, the son-in-law, he sees him with a black searstone producing

Starting point is 01:14:20 his own revelations and prophecies. And Peter Whitmore and Oliver Crowdery was like testifying that to the authenticity of these revelations. He like tells Joseph Smith, no, we saw these revelations, these prophecies that were coming from this black sear and we're authenticating them. Dude, what a weird time, huh? I mean, just weird, bro. You're like, what's gonna happen today, dude? What angels showing up today? What weird stone is somebody pulling out their ass?

Starting point is 01:14:54 Like, what is going on? Imagine that? You're like hanging on a cabin in Pennsylvania. It's like, dude, I got this vision. There's gonna be robots. Makes you like, it's a doctor. It's, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, what, what, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to to to to to to to to to to th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. tho. tho. thoooooooooo. thoooooooooooooooooooooo. What's a tho. th vision. There's gonna be robots. And it's just like, makes you like a doctorate. It's a doctor and dude, crazy, bro. That's just great.

Starting point is 01:15:10 This whole story is friggin, it's nuts. And so, Jossus Smith, like, I don't know who you're talking to, but I'm the only one getting, but I'm the only one getting, like thethe revelations from God so whatever you guys are getting is actually from the devil. And so it was believed that these the black searstone and these revelations that Haram made Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. But Apostle Alvin Dyer claimed that he had discovered the Searstone in 1955 because the Whitmer family had secretly held on to it and passed it down through the generations.

Starting point is 01:15:52 Now Smith, Joseph Smith, he argued with them that like, no, I am the only prophet, okay? So whatever you guys are prophesying is actually not from God, only what I say is coming from God, so whatever you guys are saying is more just like wisdom, wisdom for the church. And so Joseph Smith basically won out on that and they had to basically conform to what Joseph Smith was saying. Now there's a lot of controversy around what I'm about to get into, but basically in 1838, allegedly Crowdery went to Joseph Smith and found out that Joseph Smith was having an affair allegedly with his maid and and at the time Joseph or

Starting point is 01:16:41 Crowdery was like, I'm totally against like adultery. There's not supposed to be adultery in this, you know, religion, and I'm against polygamy and plural marriages. And so he allegedly started this rumor that Joseph Smith was, you know, having an affair with a maid, which basically began, and we're still in like the beginning stages of this LDS religion. And that basically began this, uh, this, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, this, this, this, this, this, this, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their their their their their their their their their their their to be to be to be their to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tholu, thoooolu, tholooooooooo. tholoooooooooo. their their their their their their their their their in like the beginning stages of this LDS religion, and that basically began this, the beginning of this polygamy doctrine that happened within the LDS church, because it was stated that Joseph Smith was having multiple wives at this time and that he was also having concubines, which means, you know, mistresses, okay? And so that made it to where they thought that that was coming from God.

Starting point is 01:17:37 Like, that was God's word, that you could have multiple wives and you were just bringing more children to God and that you were just, you know, every time you married someone, you were just sealing yourself to that person, which would then end up going to the celestial kingdom with you and you would be sealed to your family for attorneys. So the more that you could have, the more children, the more wives you could have, basically, you know, you were bringing more children to God. And so they took on, you know, them believing that Joseph Smith was having multiple wives and that also he was, he had a mistress.

Starting point is 01:18:12 They started teaching that plural marriage was okay and that polygamy was okay. Now, granted everything I'm saying right now, this is the big conspiracy going on within the Mormon religion, okay, this whole situation right here. Yeah, and so, so basically, Joseph Smith then, in, you know, right before Joseph Smith died a year before, there was all this controversy between Joseph Smith and the leaders of the church in polygamy, because all the historical leaders were teaching that polygamy was okay. And Joseph Smith, you know, them all thinking that he was, you know, cheating on his wife

Starting point is 01:18:54 and having all these wives, he basically started condemning polygamy and he goes after these leaders who are teaching polygamy and excommunicating them. And these leaders are getting really mad that he was doing that. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, and so the historical doctrine, so this is where it gets kind of crazy because after he died, he, it was written, so like in 1843, right before he died, he wrote July 12th, 1843. This was his revelation from God about polygamy. So granted, before that, they were teaching the church that they, that polygamy was okay, and

Starting point is 01:19:37 that Joseph Smith had all these wives and blah, blah, blah. Well, it wasn't until 1843 that Joseph Smith actually got his revelation from God about polygamy. And he wrote in his actual journal, because he kept a journal, and this is documented, like there's picture evidence of this. He wrote in July 12th, 1843, that he was against polygamy and that only one man should have one wife in this life and that's basically God's word. Well, after he died, so he had the scribe at the time, his name was William Clayton, and William Clayton was the one who was basically writing for him. He was writing in his journal and all that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 01:20:22 He was, you know, whatever revelation that he was coming, he was writing it down. So William Clayton, right after he died, decides to go and doctor what he had said inside of his journal and replace it with that it basically plural marriages and polygamy was okay and that that was what the doctrine that was coming from God. So he basically changed and there's there's actually picture evidence of this manipulation happening in his journal. So William Clayton the scribe goes in an affidavit and what he just erase it like there's no like

Starting point is 01:21:06 There's no email He adds to it you can actually see where he adds to the sides of the paper. Oh my Oh man. Yeah, this is a holy script and just this little scribbling over here. That's important to it like dude crazy. Yeah, so but they missed in October of 1843, Joseph Smith makes another statement within his own journal about condemning polygamy. And that one was later doctored to make everything more cohesive with the historical doctrine of the church.

Starting point is 01:21:41 So in the church right now, in the historical doctrine, in, in, um, doctrines and covenants, 132, it actually, it actually, it's, like, it's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, church right now, in the historical doctrine, in doctrines and Covenants 132, it actually talks about how it came from God that this, that plural marriage and polygamy is okay. Well, that was not what Joseph Smith said originally. So when he died, William Clayton came in as the, you know, the scribe, and he wrote in an affidavit, you know, came in as the, you know, the scribe and he wrote in an affidavit, you know, that I witnessed Joseph Smith had multiple wives. I witnessed that, you know, he has multiple children and all this stuff and that he was for polygamy. And so that contradicted what the journal said and all these LDS leaders that now were fighting for polygamy to be true had now taken over the church and had basically changed

Starting point is 01:22:37 and manipulated what Joseph Smith said into this new doctrine of polygamy and plural marriages, which is where all this incestuous relationships, these polygamous sex come from, which is where all this incestuous relationships, these polygamous sex come from. This is where all these people have basically like split because, you know, later, you have this dichotomy where it's like you have the mainline Mormons who are like, no, there's, we're supposed to have plural marriage and then you have these sex that come off of it, which are like the polygamy sex who are basically, the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, th, th, the, thi, and, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, theyology, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, the, tho, the's, we're supposed to have plural marriage, and then you have these sex that come off of it, which are like the polygamy sex, who are basically trying to restore the historical doctrine of the church and restore it back to its original teaching, which is why you have all these like, you know, like Warren Jeffs and all that kind of stuff. And so basically what happened was, is, so the victim's statement specifically says, so this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is this is th is th is thi thi the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. There is thi. There is thi. We is thi. We, thi. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're, thiole. We're, thiologe, thi. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're the victim's statement specifically says, so this

Starting point is 01:23:29 is the interesting part. So Crowdery, who started the whole rumor about the polygamy thing, he had actually gotten excommunicated after he had gotten into an issue with Joseph Smith about all of that stuff. And so he got excommunicated, but after Joseph Smith died, Crowdery decides he's going to come back to the church, which is now under this new, this, you know, new leadership that is all for polygamy and also changing the doctrine of Joseph Smith to be more in line with what they created. And ironically at the time before that, Crowdery was against polygamy. So he's coming back into a situation where it's all for polygamy. He's also started studying law and doing all this kind of stuff. Well, the reason why I'm telling you this whole story was because in the victim's

Starting point is 01:24:24 statements, Crowtery is named as the reason why I'm telling you this whole story was because in the victim's statements, Crowdery is named as the elect member of the LDS Church of Satan. And so their family, so the victim's statements, the Hamblin family, she claims that their family is part of a group within the LDS that aligned with the historical doctrine and wanted to continue in order to carry out its mission and that the church of Satan basically taught that its origins traced all the way back to Oliver Crowdery, the second member of the church. A man, the second guy? He was the second, yeah. You can't even get going to second

Starting point is 01:25:06 dude, Jerry pulling some shit. Yes. And so you had Joseph Smith and Oliver Crowdery, who were the first two baptized into this LDS church. She was the one who started the rumor that Joseph Smith had multiple wives and that he was having an affair and like Joseph's the whole doctrine right now that Mormons actually operate on which a lot of Mormons are told not even to read doctrine and covenants 132 they even choose to like skip over it because there's so much controversy within the

Starting point is 01:25:43 church about the beliefs on polygamy and where it stems from and it's even there like this has gone so deep and this is why I say like this has started from the beginning according to them that right when Joseph Smith died it was almost like this organization completely took over and now it traces back into all of the policies that are set up within the LDS church. You have, you know, I just saw not that long ago that the church had even come out and admitted that Joseph Smith had all of like at least 40 wives. And so... Now, do you think he really had and so now do you think he really

Starting point is 01:26:29 had 40 wives do you think he really was true to his beliefs? So that's where it gets really sketchy because I got to that exit left a long time ago so we're 40 and 40 40 is just a lot like three four I believe three four maybe ten months what's the black comics name as like ten kids right now and we think that's crazy imagine 40 wives it's too much so funny it's like it'd be like if XG you know after you died he started changing your legacy yeah yeah I went out he's wearing a scarf right now. So I start telling people.

Starting point is 01:27:08 So here's, so this is the crazy part, okay? Because I started, I'm like, if he had, if they admitted through historical record that Joseph Smith had sealed himself to all of these wives, right, then obviously he must have proof by having all these children that are out there, right? So if you're having all these children, then then genealogically you should be able to trace that there's multiple children outside of his wife to Joseph Smith, right? So this is the funny part. So they can't find any evidence, because they have traced all of the descendants of Joseph Smith, and they've looked at the genealogy,

Starting point is 01:27:53 and all of it traces back to his one wife, Emma. Okay? There's no other children that have been traced to Joseph Smith, but yet he's had 40 wives. And you know what, they say, you, so, since they've never their their they've they've their they've they've they've their, their, they've they've th, their, they've th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, their, their, their, their, thraced, their, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. the, the, the, the, the, thean, thean, thrace, thracea, thea, thea, thracea, thracea, thracea, thracea, thracea, thracea, thrace, th Joseph Smith, but yet he's had 40 wives. And you know what, they say, so since they've never found any evidence that this is true, but they all claim that it's true, what they state is that, well, he didn't look at it as a sexual relationship with these women. It wasn't about sex. It was about bringing more people to God. And sealing, just by him, the true, just, to him the their to him to him to him to him to him to him to him, and to him, and to him, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their, their, their, their, their, their, tre, tre, trace, trace, trace, trace, their trace, trace, their trace, their trace, their trace, their, tra, trace, their, their, sex. It was about bringing more people to God. And just by him sealing himself to these women, it ensured these women were

Starting point is 01:28:33 going to go to the celestial kingdom and be with God and be with him and it was just basically like doing them a favor. Yeah, or he's got a pull-out game strong dog. Look nobody's that strong. Nobody can nobody can take 40 shots and not take some death. That's the list of his wives. When he met him when he married wow Zena Huntington yeah 12 years old but then he also met a four a 58 and then married her her at 58. This one, her name is Coolbirth. That's a cool name. Agnes Coolbirth.

Starting point is 01:29:08 Agnes Coolbirth. Agnes Coolbirth. What? That's the best. That's the best thing I've ever had. I mean, like, they need men after their jobs. Like, hey, you know, Tom Blacksmith. I'm sorry. It's cool. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's cool. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It Sylvia Sessions? They don't know. You know Sarah's lying about her age,

Starting point is 01:29:26 because they're like, could be 47, could be 51. We don't know. His youngest wife was 14, allegedly. Well, they have a 12-year-old. Oh, yeah, I know, stupid. Was she dang cooking it? Go ho.

Starting point is 01:29:42 So this whole thing. This whole polyligonliglig is like one of the most controversial things in the Mormon church. Like because it is in their doctrine, all the bishops, all the state presidents, all that stuff are in on this. And so it's really hard to pinpoint if it's true or not, but there's no credible evidence to actually state that he ever, you only have what the church is saying. really hard to pinpoint if it's true or not, but there's no credible evidence to actually state that he ever, you only have what the church is saying, but there's no viable evidence

Starting point is 01:30:13 of that happening. So that's the conspiracy going on. And I can't say that it's not true or it is true. What I'm actually just saying is like this is this is what is in the victim's statement that this is being traced all the way back to Oliver Crowdery which was the second person of the LDS religion who was baptized into the LDS religion and how this has been traced all the way from the beginning family to family and the operations of this LDS Church of Satan they claim that

Starting point is 01:30:50 the way that it's set up is in a way where you have stake presidents involved you have bishops you have county attorney, you have David Levitt who was involved in this, you have all these very powerfully positioned people and they're positioned strategically within the church as well as within society so that when any of this stuff happens, they're easily positioned into a spot where they can, you know, counter or, I mean, they can, I don't know what I'm trying to say, they can intercept that and prevent it from getting, you know, either exposed or the person getting charged for their crimes and all that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 01:31:43 Because if you look at, and this is where you start to piece all of these little pieces together, because Curtin and McConkey is the law firm for the LDS, for the LDS, the Church of Latter-day Saints, okay, in Utah. And this is very well known, this has been documented, but Mconky, he basically set up this task force for child abuse victims within the LDS Church, and he created a hotline for the children. And he basically told the children, you know, don't call the police when you have abuse, you know,

Starting point is 01:32:18 when you've had abuse, call this hot line and report your abuse. Oh, yeah. This story was crazy- This story, this story was crazy. This story is nuts and disgusting. Disgusting! And I mean, ultimately what was happening was like, these people would call and he would take these cases and just give them off to be dismissed in court because he, he, there were so many people who were involved in this from

Starting point is 01:32:45 not being you know going through and it was like protecting these victims that these cases would just get dismissed and then they could never be tried again in court and so you also look at the Boy Scouts of America okay the Boy Scouts of America had 82,000 reports of child abuse that have actually been like proven, okay? And that's why the Boy Scouts of America is like pretty much nobody hears about it anymore and nobody even wants to put their kidnett. Right. And with the Boy Scouts of America, in the beginning, the Mormon church required all boys within the Boy Scouts of America, in the beginning, the Mormon Church required all boys within the Mormon religion to go through the Boy Scouts of America.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Wow, that makes sense. So one-third of the Boy Scouts of America was Mormon. And it was actually a requirement, and it wasn't until all this stuff happened with the Boy Scouts of America that they were like, oh, you know, shit our shit's getting exposed, we got to back out. So they stopped that whole, that whole like requiring their children to go through the Boy Scouts of America. So weird. Would you say, I mean, would you say a lot of the scout leaders were obviously Mormon or into that stuff because Because if you're sending them there, it's because someone's asking for them. I mean, not all of them, because obviously, like, the All Scouts of America was like a haven

Starting point is 01:34:11 for predators, right? Because they protect, they didn't want any abuse, they didn't want any abuse. So it was just like a haven't the a have the. So it was it was just, it was just, it th. It was just, it was just, it their, it thi, it, it, it, it thi, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th that, that, not, not, not, not, not, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. I. th. th. the the th th th the the the the th the th the th th th th th th th th th th th. th. I. I't want people to be like, oh, I can't put my kid in here because they'll get abused. So they covered up a lot of this stuff. But the LDS Church, ironically, it's like they find these, these places where it's like protecting what they're doing. Yes, like the Vatican. Yes. And so they knew that the Boy Scouts of America is like a great place to do this because they're not going to get to get to get to get to get to get their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. But. But. But. their. But. But. But. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their tre. treck. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their that the Boy Scouts of America is like a great place to do this because they're not going to get caught because they're not doing anything about these abuse cases. So it's like one, yeah, a lot of the people who were in charge of it were also people of the LDS Church. A lot of the members who were, you know, the leaders, like the camp leaders and stuff like that. And then there's also, and I, and I, and I they, and I, and I, they, they, they, they, they, they, they's also, they's also, they's also, they're also, they're also, they're also, they're also, they're also, they're also, thi, because thi, because thi, because thi, because they're thi, because thi, because thi, because thi, because thi, because th you know, the leaders, like the camp leaders and stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:35:07 And then there's also, and I will just say this, in 1990, I don't know if you guys have ever heard about the Pace memo, but Glenn Pace, who is a bishop at the LDS church, he starts getting all of these claims, and ironically this is during the satanic panic era, so obviously all these people are going to start coming forth and talking about how they were being ritualistically abused in the satanic organization. He gets like so many children coming forth and so many people coming for saying that they were baptized with blood at eight years old into this satanic cult that was operating within the LDS church.

Starting point is 01:35:50 And it was to counter their Mormon baptism and then basically like recruit them into Lucifer's army. And he decides he's like, you know, I got to investigate this. So what he does is he interviews like 60 different people. He interviews like state presidents, bishops, you know, leaders, women leaders, like all these people within the church. And he comes to the conclusion that yes, there is this secret satanic group that is ritualistically abusing people. And that he, that he, that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it people and that he that it's it is there so you

Starting point is 01:36:30 need to be aware of it and you need to protect your children and sends this pace memo out to all of the Mormon congregations like to tell them that there is this organization happening, right? and basically a lot of the mainline LDS just kind of chalked it off as just being super sensational because they can't fathom themselves being a part, like, they've never had it happened to them. And so they think that this is just, it was just like super sensationalized and didn't believe it. And so he, the bishop also decided never even to go to the police about, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you the the, you the, you, you their, you their, you know, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you their, you their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the he, the bishop also decided never even to go to the police about, you know, what he had discovered, until later when the police actually came to him and interviewed him

Starting point is 01:37:13 when they started, you know, getting into this case, with all this like ritual abuse stuff. And so that pace memo, it's like you have all these little dots that start pointing to something. You have the Bountiful Utah case that, you know, came out during the 1980s as well. And that had a lot of the same sensational accusations that are in line with what was reported in the victim's statements with the David Hamlin case, which ironically was going on simultaneously at the same time. And they were talking about how they were being transported to all these other LDS members' houses for abuse and that their parents were involved and that there were multiple other members of the LDS church involved. And when these people, or when these children came out and that that the that.. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their. their, their, their, their, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I'm thi. I, thi. I'm th. I'm th. I. I. I'm, th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, they, they, they, they, they. I. I. I. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I. I. I, thi. I. I. I. I. I. I. I was, thinininin. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, they're th. And, they're th. And, th. And, they're they're they're they're they're thin. And, other members of the LDS church involved.

Starting point is 01:38:05 And when these people, or when these children came out and talked about this in the Bountiful Utah case, the Neil Maxwell, who was in charge, advised them to just forgive their abusers and move on. What a comeback. Yeah, and so you have this, you have these policies that are in place at the, in the LDS church, and you have all these people who are strategically positioned within the LDS church to make sure that these institutional policies remain, and it's all set up and used as a protection for abusers.

Starting point is 01:38:46 And so it's like a haven for abusers. And if there's going to be this organization that's operating, you know, that's a great place to set up camp is within something that's going to be able to protect you in all aspects, you know, from the top down. And so there's, there's so many elements that just kind of, when I hear all these cases, I'm like, that reminds me a lot of what I'm reading in these victims' statements and how everything is orchestrated and operated. With the Ruby Frank case, one of her victims came on, and she, well, not one of her victims, but one of her family members, who was so so so so to to th th th th th th th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the Ruby Frank case, one of her victims came on, and she, well, not one of her victims,

Starting point is 01:39:26 but one of her family members, who was so terrified to come on camera and speak that she had her voice changed and she also had her face distorted. And you could hear even still the terror in her voice through the distortion, and she basically was like, she said, I, it doesn't surprise me that Ruby Frank was abusing her children because this isn't, this is a generational thing. And when the reporter was like, you know, was it your parents or whatever? And she was like, the way she described it, this is what stood out to me the most was that. She goes, it wasn't just our parents. If you take the family tree, right? All the way the way the way the way the way the way the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the way. the the the the the the the way she described it, this is what stood out to me the most, was that she goes, it wasn't just our parents, if you take the family tree, right, all the way from the trunk,

Starting point is 01:40:11 you know, from the bottom and all the branches that are included in the family tree, that's how far this generational abuse goes. And that's what she said in the Ruby Frank case, which is going on out of, it's in Provo, Utah, Spring City, the same exact area where David Hamblin just got arrested. And one thing I wanted to point out too, before we wrap this story up, is that Rizzole, the wife, okay? Remember how I said that she didn't remember any of this abuse had even occurred? So David Hamblin gets arrested in March of 20 20.., it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, out of, out, it, out, out of, out of, out of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of, out of, out of, out of, out of, out of, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, out, th of, th of, th of, th of, th of, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. It, th. It, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that thi. that's thi. that's that's thi. that's that's thi. thi. thi. that's thi. that's that Rizel, the wife, okay? Remember how I said that she didn't remember any of this abuse had even occurred? Oh yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:46 So David Hamblin gets arrested in March of 2022. The reports, the press conference that came out, basically insinuated that David Hamlin is just the first of many arrests that will come, okay? Insinuating that there's going to be a lot more people who are going to be prosecuted., the, th, th, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, and just, th. thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thusus, thus, thus, th. So, th, th, th, th, is th, th, th, th, th. So, th. So, th. So, yeah, yeah, th. So, yeah, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. Yeah, th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, that, that, thus, thus, thus, that, thi. that, that, thus, thus, thus insinuating that there's going to be a lot more people who are going to be prosecuted. And just last month, Rizel, I just saw something pop up that Rizel finally has been arrested for child abuse. So they're slowly picking people off. And there's so many alleged members in this that I have dived it into and dissected and gone deep into their history, their family

Starting point is 01:41:32 genealogy, and how it all correlates to each other. And it's actually mind-blowing because if you just look at the surface level of these victim statements, it's easy to chock it off as not being true until you go in and actually look like research what they're saying and find actual evidence that can support their claims. It's crazy. It's just unbelievable. It is crazy and you know it is nuts. Now we got to wrap it up but I thought David Lee had a weird nickname or was it somebody else? I couldn't find it. I looked it up. I thought it was like the Punisher or something like that somebody.

Starting point is 01:42:18 It's not the Punisher because the Punisher is Lee Benion. So there are certain roles within the Church of Satan. In the High Council, you have the deceiver, you have the peacemaker, you have the punisher, you have multiple other roles, and each one has a specific role. Can I just ask you really quickly, what are, what are you, what are our sources for like the name, like the title? How do we know that? Is that, I'm really curious about, have people escaped the church and like ratted on it? What's the story there? These are all very specifically detailed in the victim's statements. Okay. All that stuff that I'm getting, like all the mythology. I'm just curious about the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, what are, what are, their, their, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, what are, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their. their, their. their. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theirthat stuff that I'm getting like all the mythology. I'm just curious about the titles. That's so weird that they have

Starting point is 01:43:07 those creepy titles. I mean isn't that bizarre? Is Lee Benion a man or a woman? What's that? Is Lee Benion a man or a woman? It's a man and an interesting thing about Lee Benion. Okay. I'm just gonna say this. thi. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. th. the. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th going to say this. Because. And and I-O-N. He's out of Utah. He has a pottery shop. So this is the interesting thing about Lee Benion is because in the victim's statements, he's included as being part of this Church of Satan, and he's actually the one who's been identified as the punisher. The punisher is the worst role because they're the ones who commit these torturous, crazy, heinous acts at the discretion of the High Council. So if somebody's acting out of line in the Church of Satan, there's so many parameters that are allegedly set up in this organization to keep Church of Satan members in line and to make

Starting point is 01:44:07 sure that this organization operates elusively. And what I will say too about just even the human sacrificing and the rituals where you go, well, if they're, you know, sacrificing all of these children, then how are they getting away with that? There has to be evidence. You know, people should have been able to find that this is happening or children are missing or whatever. But in this church of Satan, they're not taking children off the street and bringing them in and utilizing them as, you know, a sacrifice. What they're doing, and this is what the victim said, is that they go to these Native American reservations or, you know,

Starting point is 01:44:46 people who are part of these reservations as well as these polygamy groups where these children aren't documented. They don't have birth certificate, social security numbers, or any of that kind of stuff. And they do trades with them. And they sell artwork. They do like financial trades and you know,

Starting point is 01:45:08 there's also Church of Satan members that reside within there in those organizations. And they give these children to them and when you have family that's involved, you think, well if a child goes missing, then the mom and dad are going to speak up. But in this, it's like a whole family thing. And so.

Starting point is 01:45:26 You know what they remind? It reminds me of the finders call. Yeah. How they found those kids and the kids didn't know what the kind of was going on and it's like. It's all tied to the system. A woman can give birth and she don't have to go, the kid doesn't have to go in the system, he can be sold. Exactly, and nobody knows about the children being alive and so they can get... She had a miscarriage, easy. Yeah, exactly. And the Lee-Benion thing I was going to say on that is that in the victim's statement, they talk a lot about in the ceremonies, they put their hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands hands they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their they put they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they. they they. they. they they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their, their hands up and they create this Y. And the Y has a specific meaning. I can't exactly remember what it is, but there's some magical power to this Y.

Starting point is 01:46:12 And when you look up Lee Benyons pottery, there's a giant Y. That he hasn't been arrested? No. Oh, bro. And there's this giant Y. And apparently they use his pottery in the ceremonies. And so I just I thought that was so interesting when you look at his pottery.

Starting point is 01:46:32 There's Y's on his pottery and he's very much like, you know, very particular on placing that Y on his pottery. But what I will also say is that there is a lot of claims and allegations within these victim's statements that the police should be able to follow up on to find some other credible evidence that gives claims to this because allegedly they were told that they had to document all of their abuse in journals. All the children had to do that. They had to create a journal of abuse and then they also had to create that they had to document all of their abuse in journals, all the children had to do that. They had to create a journal of abuse and then they also had to create a fake journal of a fake life without abuse.

Starting point is 01:47:12 So that if they ever got caught, you know, they had a journal that basically says a life that never happened, there was no abuse. And then they have the journal that has all of the abuse. And then they have the journal that has all of the abuse that's in there and they they gave strict parameters on what could be said in there and all that kind of stuff. And so I'm thinking like if there's all these children who have journals, there has to be journals somewhere, right? So it's like there's all of these little pieces where you read this and you go, they can't hide all of this stuff, you know........ their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're they're their, they're, they're their, they're they's, they's, they's, and they's, they's, they's, and they's, and they's, they's, and they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and you go, they can't hide all of this stuff, you know? How can they hide all of this information? Why doesn't the police go and find those types of things?

Starting point is 01:47:53 Why are they just focusing on, did this person get abused? I'm just going to, whatever, right? And so I don't know if it's just because this is so extensive. This would basically, like, it would be like going against some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some, the most the most so extensive. This would basically like, it would be like going against some of the most powerful power structures that are out there that they're just kind of like, nah, I don't wanna use my resources towards that. I'm just gonna deal with this.

Starting point is 01:48:17 I don't think I wanna go up against that. I don't know what it is, but apparently with this case, this is the reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason reason because slowly but surely they're still working on this case behind the scenes. I've been keeping up with the court dates and what's going on there. And if we start seeing even more people getting arrested, that's what's going to get like, you know, because you had David Hamblin, then you had Roselle. There's a lot more people mentioned in there. David Levitt, who was the Utah County attorney there, he was named in it, and, you know,

Starting point is 01:48:53 there's a whole story, back story on him, but he basically dipped to Scotland and built or bought a castle, and now he's just hanging out in Scotland with his wife. And it was just odd timing that he decides he's going to dip out to Scotland and then also he's tied to the Nicholas Rossi I don't know if you guys know Nicholas Rossi the person who pretended or he was he raped somebody in Utah and then he fled to Scotland and and said that he was somebody else and when then he fled to Scotland and

Starting point is 01:49:28 Said that he was somebody else and when they found him he He was pretending to be somebody completely different. I don't know if you guys heard about that case. No, I haven't That's a crazy case in and of itself, but he finally just got extradited here and it turns out that he was Nicholas Rossi, but Nicholas Rossy before he got caught basically went on camera and he the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. he he heat. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the threat the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the he the he the thes out that he was Nicholas Rossi, but Nicholas Rossi before he got caught, basically went on camera and told David, told everybody that David Leavitt was part of some satanic ritual abuse thing that was abusing children. And so there's just so many bizarre little elements to this case that just like connecting. It's it's it's weird it's it's sad it's tragic and I mean there there is no no worse sin than a hurt a child and you know I'm very very very very vocal you know because I live in a town or I'm in a industry where like people are more afraid

Starting point is 01:50:27 to say racial slurs than to do jokes about hurting children. And you know, that's the only edgy thing left. So that's what they do now because kids can't cancel people. So I think it's all, I mean, dude, this guy obsessed. You're talking about comedy, yes. Not just on the street street street street street, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. thi, th. thi, people are th. thi, people are thi, people are th. th th th th th th th th th thi, people are people are people are people are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People are th. People, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people, people thi, people are thi, people are thi, people are thi, people are thi. thi. thi. thi. thooooo. tho. tho. thi. People are thi. People are thi. People are thi, people are thi, this guy obsessed me. You're talking about in comedy, yes. Not just on the streets. No, non, well, probably on the street too. Yeah, I mean, you know, people shouldn't be doing either.

Starting point is 01:50:50 Yeah, I mean, well, they shouldn't be doing either of them, but one is way worse than the other. I mean, like, meaning words are meaning. I do and I'll say it again, this is Sam speaking, the N word is a giant sigh-op to get us all the fight with each other, not saying anyone should or shouldn't say it, but it's like the fine print that comes with that word is perfect for causing divide and conquer. And it is a perfect version of the inverse, the inverted world we live in, you know, where you take this word that's supposed to be for kings out of Africa, you invert........... And the the their. And, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and I, and I, and I, and I. And, and I. their, and I. their, and I's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thii. the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. th know, where you take this word that's supposed to be for kings out of Africa, you invert it to slavery, then you invert it again that now you're protecting it at all costs. It is the giant inverse. So that's it. One more time, tell them where they could find you. This has been a wonderful, wonderful,

Starting point is 01:51:39 wonderful podcast. I agree, I mean the subject matter is discussing, but you did a great job of disseminating information, Avery, so tell them where they can find you again. So I am, you can find me on Rockfin. That's where, if you guys are interested in this case and you guys want to know actually more details, because I go into the alleged members of it, I go through detailed of the mythology of the LDS Church. I go into a lot of more detail. I have about four episodes out right now, have a lot more coming. So you can watch the full episodes on my premium Rockfin channel, Chiller Queen podcast.

Starting point is 01:52:14 So you can watch the full episodes on my premium Rockfin channel, Chiller Queen Podcast. I do 15-minute previews on my YouTube channel, which is Chiller Queen Podcast. Obviously I don't think I can post the full episodes on YouTube because it is pretty dark, but you can find it, the full episodes on Rockfin. And then also the Chiller Queen Podcast. And then you, I also, the Chiller Queen Podcast. And And then I also have my personal account, which gets a little bit crazy, but it's a very dope cook, because I like to cook,

Starting point is 01:52:52 but I'm also known to cook with cannabis. So I'm a dope cook. So, respect. So those are all the places that you could find me. Well, it was a great conversation. Glad you could finally meet your idol. Johnny, I mean, I love to make dreams come true. That's what we do. This has been a great conversation. Guys, if you love this, follow her, the links are below. Make sure you click on all the links and support. Again, you know, we hope you enjoy this. Go to Sam Tripoli.com, new t-shirts going up all the time and get them at Sam Tripoli.com, all my videos, you can get them at Sam Tripoli.com, everything, the affiliates, we've got more and more

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Starting point is 01:54:15 Like they, you can just tell they're happy people. Have you ever seen that like that? You mean like that R.E. shiny happy people like Johnny You live on the west side of LA that is shiny happy people Yeah, I kind of know what you mean people who look like people who look like they just got pulled out of Instagram Basically, they look like they're they're yogi's they do yoga they You're you send this thing to your to your I texted to your I texted it to you. Wait for that. So and and I say this all I'll love. I mean this is like they were such nice people.

Starting point is 01:54:51 But it turns out he invited all these people that are in the truth community that have been pushing back against the jacks. So it's really cool like huge name people like I don't know if you know this name but Dell Big Tree was there. And he'sthe guy who got read anymore no but we're setting it up it's it's so funny because these guys are all serious they're all doctors or all this stuff and I'm like hey I got a podcast called Tim Fall Hat and I would instantly go hey hey don't don't don't let the the name fool you right do you I've asked you this before I know and I'm th th the the th the the the the the the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to the the their the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their te. their te. their. te. their. their. the their. the the their. their. their. their. the, don't let the name fool you, right? Do you, I've asked you this before, I know, and I'm just curious if your answer has evolved. Any regrets about choosing that? None. Okay.

Starting point is 01:55:33 Actually, proud that I did it. And in hindsight, in hindsight, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like that it's the reason the show has blown up. Because people automatically know what the show is I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm th th th th thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm th thi, I'm th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm just thi, I'm just thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi reason one of the big reasons the show has blown up because people automatically know what the show is so my plan was yeah yeah that makes sense right because like I always sit down and tell people how to blow up a podcast I give them four to are we talking about this yeah we have yeah okay so what is like the name your podcast say instantly have to know what's about

Starting point is 01:56:05 the video is kind of like... Yeah, I know. It's janky, but we don't have to play all of it, but the point is, so I'm going around, talking to people, my social anxiety is through the roof. The people here are nice. Everyone's nice. They're all doctors. They're all fighting the mandates. It's like a really nice. Everybody ththere is really nice. Shiny, happy people.

Starting point is 01:56:27 Mickey, remember we kept talking about how good looking Mickey was? You remember? We're like, dude, you are stunningly good looking. People who wouldn't hang out with us unless they had some kind of business reason or like, you know, like an association. No, like, like, like, you know, it's like, if I drop my wallet there, I wouldn't be worried that someone would take it. I got you. Because the biggest scumbag there is me, right? Like there's places where I'm like, oh, I don't have to lock my car because I'm the biggest criminal in the neighborhood. It's not LA, right?

Starting point is 01:57:00 Not LA. But this was on the west side. And they are all so nice. This is from this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is from this, this, this is from this is from this video, this video, this video, this video, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the. th. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.this was on the west side and they are also nice Dell Bill this is from this video you said yeah so so like I've never been like Johnny I've such really insane insane social anxiety like I'm there to you my mom has it my brother has it it it like we're isolators I do not like going to events, to the point that nobody invites me out anymore, which makes me... Which is weird because you didn't have any trouble.

Starting point is 01:57:29 Did you, did you shit yourself on stage early on? No, it's the weirdest thing. That's the only, like, I find a place, like, I find a place. I understand what you're saying, yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is that's that, which, which is that, which is that, which is weird, which is weird. Which is weird, which is, which is, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, which is. that's, which is. that's, which is, which is that's, which is that's, that's, that's, which is. that's, which is. that's, which is. comedy store. I can go to the comedy store and feel very comfortable. I understand what you're saying. But if I go to the improv, clock is ticking. How really? Oh, it isn't. Get out, bro.

Starting point is 01:57:53 And everyone there is really nice. I have none but love for the improv. They're Rita is the nicest person. She's an old. She's a, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the thi, the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the thi, is. thi, is. thi, is. thi, is a the thi, is a their, is a their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is. Clo, is I've known her for decades okay wonderful person love other staff there is really nice but the comedy story maybe because I did a lot of drugs and bad decisions there I'm very comfortable my my jokes carried me when I was so scared because what happened Johnny was when I started staying up comedy I I had to go in the bars. And at the time everybody wanted to be, and I've heard some really shady shit about the weekend.

Starting point is 01:58:30 Oh really? Yeah, I don't want to tell you it. I wish I didn't say his name. Can we beep his name? So you know how everybody thinks, beep, beep is like this prim, improper and corporate clean guy? Well word was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th was th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th. th. th. th. th. thi. I th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th.. I th.. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. th. the. th. the. th. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. th. the the the t. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the th. the and like corporate clean guy. Well word was that this comic that's no longer with us told this guy that this guy's a real scumbag that he got off on fucking married women. Really? Yeah that was his thing like when he could find a fan who was married at least they're women you know as opposed to I guess I

Starting point is 01:59:02 guess which is what we thought maybe his things. No, before he, uh, okay. I, I, I, he's been there before. You might want to cut out on this, but I found that to be very interesting because I've always said this, Johnny. It's a blind item. They can't say shit about it. Not.

Starting point is 01:59:17 . No. Clean comics are assholes, but most asshole comics work clean It's just this golden rule and comedy kind of like they're so like under pressure Well, it's like it's like when you when you do art and you make it business show business you move from art to show business That takes a little bit of your soul out a little bit of your soul out a little bit So anyways so anyways so I go to this event. I am mind-blown. I am mind-blown. I am mind-blownowneowned. thowned. I'm thowne-cloowned. I'm th-cloowned. I'm th-cloowned. I'm th-cloing. I'm th-cene. I'm th-cene. I'm th-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-cene. th-c-c. the-c. their-c. It's. It's. It's. their-c. It's. their. their. their. they're they're like they're like they're like they're like they're like they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their. I'm their. I their. I their. I their the-cene. I th-cene. I th-cene-cene-cene-cene-cene-cene-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-clue. th-clue- your soul out. A little bit. So anyways, so I go to this event. I am mind-blown by how cool everybody is. How many people are there, would you say? 20. Okay. And it was Eddie go?

Starting point is 01:59:57 No, Eddie's in Portland tonight. I probably had some Jiu-Jitsu shit. I don't know. Yeah, he's hustling so so we go I go there I meet a couple people I'm a huge Dell Big Tree fan I like I can't believe he's right here so like I don't is that is he Indian is that like an Indian no I'm look him up look him up you'll recognize his face because he was just dropping bombs about the about all that stuff. He was like one of the first ones to get censored on YouTube.

Starting point is 02:00:32 Oh yeah yeah yeah I know this guy. Yeah. Do we got beep that too? What I just said? I said Jack I'm sorry Johnny you got you you're working hard. So I'm I am here. These are doctors. These are medical professionals. And then there's the Dick Joe comic who's hanging out. Was there anybody in your category there? All right. Not Dick Joe comics, but I get there and I just meet with these two guys. Uh, Deepak and an artist named Twilight, right? I like that. Yeah, right? Really cool.

Starting point is 02:01:07 So I start connecting, they know who I am. Did he meet pasta, Twilight? Did pasta, Twilight, and Dpoc, sitting in a tree, okay? Now, you walk into a bar. Right? We have Twilight, Deep. Great.

Starting point is 02:01:19 Great. So we start talking, and so I don't know how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the know how deep to go with people in these conversations because everybody in the conspiracy community is only willing to go so far. Like Jimmy Door, right? In their thing. Right? Right. Jimmy Dore will go anywhere until I go, oh we didn't land on the moon.

Starting point is 02:01:38 Then I lose them right there. And you know, there's certain people that will talk about certain things. So I have to judge how deep I can go. So I start talking these guys and they're in. They're in on all of it. We start going deep in the fallen angels and all that shit. It was really cool to have a conversation with them. And like, I'm like, so I feel bad because I'm just walking, following them around everywhere. Did you know that Del Big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big the their their their their their they they they they they they they they they th. I th. I th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel I feel I feel, following them around everywhere. Did you know that Dell Big Tree worked on Dr. Phil as a field producer? Oh really? For five episodes? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:02:10 So, so he, so he's a lot. It's so funny when you do this thing I call. I like to do a zoom, how tall are they? When you see somebody I need that, yeah. And then when you meet them in real life, either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, either, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they're, they're, they're, they're, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, they're, they're, life, either they're way taller or way shorter than you thought? Yeah, totally. Which is hilarious. He's way taller than I thought. Big tree? Oh yeah, way tall. With the name like Big Tree. Yeah, you got to be a big tree. When you're like that tall. So we went there. I found people that the neflemn. the nephphphphph. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they's. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. tree. tree. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. they. they. they. they's. they're. they're. they're. they're. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. tree. He. tree. He's. tree. He's. tree. tree. He's. tree. He's. He's. tree. tree. We got in a conversation, pastas, he's into stuff, I don't know how deep he goes into that and he's, so, so this one doctor is a kind of a celebrity amongst the group, he's gonna leave, he's like saying goodbye his wife. They're like, hold on, hold on.

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