Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #730: Christian Mysticism With Ike Baker

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli.  This episode we welcome author, researcher, instructor, and lecturer on the western esoteric traditions, including alchemy, astrology, tarot, and ritual theurgy, Ike Baker, to the discuss his thoughts on Jesus, the Old and New Testament and Extraterrestrials in the Bible.  Thank you for your support.  Please support The Chaos Twins Indiegogo.  Join the Army Of Chaos: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/chaos-twins-1-by-sam-tripoli-paranoid-american--2/coming_soon/x/5548203 Want to see Sam Tripoli live?  Get tickets at SamTripoli.com:   Dec 12th:  Comedy Chaos Live At The World Famous Comedy Store https://www.showclix.com/event/comedy-chaos-december12th   Dec 16th: Headlining The Post Comedy Show in El Monte, Ca https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-post-comedy-show-w-sam-tripoli-tickets-758061160337?aff=oddtdtcreator   Jan 11th:  Tin Foi Hat Comedy Night and Swarm Tank at Hilarities In Cleveland TFH Comedy: https://www.pickwickandfrolic.com/2023/10/tin-foil-hat-comedy/ Swarm Tank: https://ci.ovationtix.com/36259/production/1182181   Jan 12th: Tin Foil Hat Comedy Night and Swarm Tank At Soul Joel's in Pottstown, PA  https://www.souljoels.com/shop/tickets/tinfoilhatswarmtank/   Jan 13th: Headlining Lolev Beer in Pittsburgh's historic Lawrenceville  https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/comedy-night-lolev-beer-presents-sam-tripoli-2879419?just_published=true   Jan 25th-27th: Headlining the Comedy Vault In Batavia, Ill https://www.comedyvaultbatavia.com/calendar?month=1&year=2024   Feb 8th-10th:  The Comic Strip in Edmonton https://wem.thecomicstrip.ca   Please check out John Kirwin's internet:  Youtube:  Website: www.ikebaker.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@arcanvm   Please check out SamTripoli.com for all things Sam Tripoli. Please check out Sam Tripoli's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/ Please Follow Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/   Thank you to our sponsors: CopyMyCrypto.com: The ‘Copy my Crypto’ membership site shows you the coins that the youtuber ‘James McMahon’ personally holds - and allows you to copy him. So if you’d like to join the 1300 members who copy James, then stop what you’re doing and head over to: CopyMyCrypto.com/TFH You’ll not only find proof of everything I’ve said - but my listeners get full access for just $1   MOOD: MOOD puts an end to guessing games. It’s 100% federally legal Delta-8 and Delta-9 THC you can have shipped straight to you. No doctors, no waiting. Just affordable, legal THC. For a limited time, Mood is giving our listeners FREE delta 9 gummies and 20% off your first order. Visit hellomood.com and use our code, TINFOIL.   Babble: This fall, you can start speaking a new language with Babbel. Babbel is designed by real people for real conversations all of Babbel’s tips and tools for learning a new language are approachable, accessible, rooted in real-life situations, and delivered with conversation-based teaching. Get 55% off at Babbel dot com slash TINFOIL. Spelled B-A-B-B-E-L dot com slash TINFOIL. Rules and restrictions may apply. DraftKings:  There’s so much to be thankful for. Family, friends, food, and NFL football ALL week LONG. DraftKings Sportsbook is keeping your Thanksgiving week full of action! New customers can bet just FIVE BUCKS on the NFL action to score ONE HUNDRED FIFTY INSTANTLY IN BONUS BETS. So download the DraftKings Sportsbook app NOW and use code TINFOIL. New customers can bet FIVE on the NFL Thanksgiving action to score ONE HUNDRED FIFTY INSTANTLY IN BONUS BETS! Only on DraftKings Sportsbook–an Official Sports Betting Partner of the NFL with code TINFOIL! Gambling problem? Call 1-800-Gambler or visit w w w 1 800 gambler dot net. In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369). In Connecticut, Help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit c c p g dot org. Please play responsibly. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 21 plus age varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. See D K N G dot com slash football for eligibility, terms and responsible gaming resources. Bonus bets expire seven days after issuance. Eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. Hello Tushy: Hello TUSHY bidet’s fresh stream of water cleans your bum 2x better than wiping. Even if you use wet wipes, you’re still smearing poop around AND introducing nasty chemicals to your butt. Using a Hello TUSHY bidet also prevents poo particles from spreading to your hands and everything you touch. Shop from your toilet this Brown Friday and save up to 30% on bidets and bundles! Visit HELLO TUSHY DOT COM forward slash TINFOIL and use promo code TINFOIL for 30% off your first order. That’s HELLO TUSHY DOT COM SLASH TINFOIL for 30% off now through November 25th  

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will love it. I hope you guys enjoy this one. I think I came, he saw he crushed. It is, he gets in some narcissism. I know some of you guys aren't into that, but I think he's well researched and I enjoy. This second time I've talked to me came on zero. I thought he knocked out of the park and I thought he knocked out park on this one. I think it's one of our best conversations we have ever had. So I hope you guys enjoy it. So go check out Sam Tripot.

to check out my dates and enjoy this conversation with, Ike Baker. All right, let's get into it. Very excited to have this guest on. He's an author, a lecturer, and a content creator. Please welcome. I'm very excited. He was on zero and he's back in. Ike Baker. How are you, Ike?

I'm excellent. How you doing, Sam? Thanks for having me. Ike is, is Ike your real name or is that a the name a tha a tha go through so? Because I'm gonna be honest you. I really like to name. I like I like. I like. I think if I had a son naming him Mike. Just I like or like Samuel Ike. It's short for Isaac right. It's short for Isaac. It's short for Isaac. It's typically short for Isaac. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the. I the. I the the the name. I the the the the the the the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the name. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the name. the name. think it's short for something. Yeah. Well, let the minute. Ike is typically short for Isaac. As for it being my real name or not, I'll keep you guys guessing. Respect on that. So I know you were on my other show, zero, my spiritual show, which I hope you guys go back. I'm putting out old episodes for free, you can listen to them. Everything I do with Zero is free. I don't do it as much as I used to. I wish I did. I'm just super busy, but it's a great show. It's really

helped me have a great understanding of all the information that is out there, which I think is very important. I, I know you were on there, can, can, can, can, can, can, can, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thii. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm out there, which I think is very important. I know you were on there, for those who may not be familiar with you, could tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Sure, so like you mentioned, I am an author, a lecture, I also, I'm an instructor at the Institute for Hermetic Studies, and I create a presentation or documentary style videos on

the Western esoteric traditions, the history, theory, and practices of it. And I host a podcast that's kind of niche. It's specifically for people that are either authors, scholars, or practitioners of the occult arts or esotericism in general. But you can find everything, the podcast, you can stream the YouTube, you can read my blog. It's all on Ike Baker.com, IkeBak-R. dot com. I got a book coming out in 2024 via Tria Prima Press, good friends of mine, Jamie Lamb,

Pat Shanahan and Jake Trier, and it's going to be great. I'm working on it right now. It's definitely a labor of love and it's my first like full-length solo project. Well, and the fact that you're literate enough to write a book is impressive to me. I would love to write a book, but you know, can't even string I don't even know where commas or semicolons go I go this seems like a nice place for a comma I'll just throw a comma in there. Hope nobody knows. Oh that's what I know when I first learned about commas I just. Hey this I'mD off trail, but you know a lot of people like,

oh man, we're losing our language. I mean, language evolves, you know, language evolves. I don't know, if you go back, you look at it during, you know, the 1700s how they spoke English versus today, you know, I mean, is one better than the other? I mean, I don't know. I mean, one seems, you know, the old day seems like they used way too many words. If the words were money, they'd file bankruptcy today. This is completely different, but do you, what do you think about the theory, how they're trying to get rid of cursive so you can't read the the the the the the the the the their.... their. their. their. the, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. thi, thi, their, their, thi, their, they, they, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, the the the the the the they. they. One, they. One, they. One, they. One, they. they. they. they. they. they. they, they, they, they, they, they, they one, one, that's interesting but it's also has to do with AI as well AI can't read cursive so they want to get rid of that I'm gonna lose it if my kids don't learn cursive I'm gonna lose it you think it's one of the first things you're gonna try to teach them 100% I'm like are we tea tea them cursive because well how the how's how how how how how how how how how how how how how is how is how is how is how is I write it, it looks like a man just had a heart attack

halfway through it. I never use it. It is chicken scratch. Well, you can use it though, Donny. You know how to make, how to connect them. It's not that. I do, but I just, I mean, it's not useful in my day to day to day. Yeah, I get that. the original constitution not not too frequently. I totally get what you're saying but so congratulations

on your new project your new book when will that be out? That'll probably be sometime in the spring 2024 so yeah I and you know I'll be talking about it and probably making a round of podcast tours and traveling around the country talking about it. So you you know, what do we talk about on zero? I forget what we talked about. With him? We went pretty deep. Yeah, well, that's what I like that show is about and this show is gonna go deep as well. I've been on a spiritual journey, got the Lord in my life, you know, I'm a Jesus guy. But where do you want to start? What would you like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their? their? their? their their? their their? their their? I their their? I their? I their? I their their? I their? I? I? I? I their their their their? I? I? I? I? I? I their their their today. I? I'm too. I'm tooe. Ia. I'm. Ia. I'm. I'm. I'm tooe. I'm. I'm tooe. I'm tooe. I'm too. I'm today. I'm a Jesus guy, but where do you want to start? What would you like to start with? Um, I guess on that tack man, I guess I guess we could start with maybe a little bit of Christianity because I like yourself, I'm a Jesus man. I would not say that I am strictly like yourself. I'm a Jesus man. I would not say that I am strictly like large or small O Orthodox Christian. I was born and raised a Catholic, but I kind of rediscovered my Christian faith over the, you know,

the last, maybe 15 years or so really I came back to it. I'm 37 now, but it was a, it was kind of a slow, I guess, really understanding it, like seeing something so mundane and that have been such a huge presence in my life growing up that I kind of took for granted. I see it, I see, see it with new eyes, kind of almost for the first time, and it's, it's been a really beautiful journey, but I understand it from a little bit more of an esoteric perspective, you know, a little bit more of a Christian mystical perspective. So that is my big thing and I love my people who listen, I don't believe their fans, I believe they're like-minded people that listen to this show and we're very blessed.

And the show keeps growing and we're very blessed Okay, and whenever I do live shows I always have somebody being like you know, there's only Jesus. There's no mysticism And I understand what you're saying, but I also I I just think there's just more to it and then I just I just think there's just more to it and then I just I mean, I mean, maybe I'm early on my journey. I've had these th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th the they. I've the the the their their their their their their their their their th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I've th. I've th. I've to th. I th. I theee the thee the the the the the the the th. I the just more to it. And then I just, I mean, maybe I'm early on my journey. I've had these conversations, I've had conversations on the show, and then six months later, thought a whole different, I was writing a book with Mark Steeves and I'm like, I stopped it because I'm like, I don't know if I'll believe what I'm saying right here in six months and I would hate to put it out and then suddenly be like, I don't believe th.... the book, you know? So, like, it's really hard for me to put anything down about what my beliefs are, but like, there are certain things that I believe, which is energy manipulation that

I think is like valid. And so, again, I'm on a spiritual journey. I'm trying to learn, I hope that doesn't offend you if you're listening. But th. th. th. th. thi tho, tho, tho, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, thin, thr. thru. thru. theean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thi. toooooooooo. And, trying to learn and I hope that doesn't offend you if you're listening, but this is my journey. Maybe at the end I will sit down and be in the same place with a lot of you think there's only one thing. What are your thoughts about Christian mystics? Well, I definitely, so Christian mystics have existed within or I guess under the auspices of Christianity since it's very, very beginning. So, you know, Hildegard von Bingen, Jacob, some people call him Jacob Bollum, I think a closer, I guess, true pronunciation would be Jacob Bummer. These were all, you know, theologians and clergy people.

There's a long list of them that had mystical experiences of the Christ, you know, the Christic force that exists, that Jesus was an embodiment of, you know, and I think that the Christian, the path that Christ walked, whether you're reading the canonical Gospels or whether you're reading the apocryphal ones or if you're reading things like the Gnostic Gospels, right? Quote-unquote, Gospels. That's probably a little bit more my flavor, because it's, it really dovetails with Western occultism and Western esotericism that I've been studying. That was actually the path that brought me back to Christianity, was Western esoteric traditions. And you see it from the very, very beginning, the earliest sects of Christianity, right?

Because there wasn't one overarching Christian church. They didn't believe one thing. They never have. There's always, from the very beginning, from the earliest records, there's arguments over the nature of Christ. Was it an allegory? Was it a spiritual kind of blueprint for like the reintegration of humankind, was it a literal interpretation? And you end up having this, what they call orthodox, right? Or I guess you could translate that from the ancient Greek to to mean right opinion. But that is what orthodox means. Yeah, kind of. It also means like, it could mean like moving in agreement

or like really right opinion is how it gets translated in a lot of the modern literature. But the thing is that you have that school that belongs to these people that are that are the quote-unquote church fathers, the the patriarchs of modern institutionalized Christianity, people like Ereas of Leon, you have Hippolytus, you have Turtulian, you have Origen, Clement of Alexandria, these are all people that were very, very influential in the beginning of the church. And then you have other people that are Gnostics like Valentinus, who almost became Bishop of Rome. And Bishop of Rome, right? What do the Catholics call that? They call that the Pope. So he almost had that job, and that's how influential he was. And he a Gnostic and the Gnostics are

much much more mystical. They say that salvation is not brought by faith. Salvation is brought by Nosis which in Greek means knowledge but it denotes an experiential knowledge or a mystical spiritual knowledge and so there's not much written about specific Nostic And so there's not much written about specific Nostic experiences, but there are Gnostic texts that were essentially found in the 1940s, I believe 1945, just outside of Alexandria, Egypt, which is a very, very important place for the beginning of Christianity.

And we kind of learned that like, oh, they were having these mystical experiences and this really, really interesting and diverse perspective on the nature of Christianity and the Christ, because before we found those documents, all, like, scholastic or theological consideration of the Gnostics was through the people who hated them. So it's like if somebody who does not like you, Sam, wrote your biography, you know, and that's what people have left, it's going to contain probably a very skewed picture of your life. And that's what we had for a really long time until 1945. And it's only very recently, I would say, within the last like 40, 50 years that scholars have really started looking at these things critically. And beyond a shadow of a doubt, they are highly mystical.

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like it's heading this way, this book kind of brings it this way, connections to elites that people are within the religion itself and that's all of them. That's not just Christianity, that's Islam, that's Judaism, that's all of them. So, what I want to ask you is, the biggest, because I already know, once we start having this conversation, there's going to be a small group of people, and it won't be a large group of people, because the blessings of this at the swarm, they'll listen. You know, and like, when it comes our comedy shows, I do, I always say my fans, my fans, th, thens, thens, thens, thins, thins, they'll listen. You know, I'm like when it comes our comedy shows, comedy shows I do, I always say my fans are comedy lovers, not comedy snobs, so whatever you believe they want you to be really well, do really well at it and the laugh at it, they don't, they're not like, I only want this like snobs do.

And they mean mug you if you don't give them what they deem as popular or the correct way to comedy. I think that is for the most part the people listen to show. They're open-minded. Everyone's looking for another piece of the puzzle. Do you have a piece of the puzzle? So people will talk on this show and they'll be like, you know, a lot of this narcissism gets introduced as a way to kind of morph Christianity into another direction and in a different way and then you know

they find in 1940s and you know it's it's it's it's it's I don't know they can even they can even use words like luciferianism and stuff like that like what you what do you and this is just an honest question, not like trying to challenge anybody, but a real honest question to, what are you, what do you say to those people that go, all that stuff is just trying to like manipulate your connection with God? Well I typically don't say anything to them because as the saying goes to the disbeliever, no proof is sufficient. But what I will say is this, among the real, because I'm kind of like you, right, my views change on things and I'm aware that that's happening, but they don't change

as I tighten my scope of my abilities of research, right, because a lot of it relies upon context, right, you can have something, you can have a line from the Bible like Lucifer, no context, you have no idea what it means. So I think that really it's not so much the books, right, because you can't really forge new books. And then have a scholastic community, which really doesn't give a shit on the veracity of it. They're not looking at scripture from, you know, the point of like, you know, was Jesus real. They're looking at it more like, no, we don't care if any of this stuff was real.

We're looking at it from a secular academic point of view. So they're not going to entertain this idea that like, they know it's not only radiocarbon dating, it's the location, it's the type of writing, it's the analysis of the ink. You know, stuff doesn't get made the same way anymore. You know what I'm saying? We don't make the the th. It th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. They're thi. thi. thi. thi. they're thi. they're tho. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. We're the. We know, stuff doesn't get made the same way anymore. You know what I'm saying? We don't make things on papyrus like that. There could be even species of plant that they use that have evolved and don't exist in the same format anymore. So these are, they do a heavy amount of research because the thing is everybody wants

to be that scholar that finds, you know, the lost thing. But you've got to be able to prove it. And there's lots of checks and balances there. Now that's not to say, I'm not the biggest fan, anybody who's watched my channel. I'm not the biggest fan of academia. I appreciate it for what it can and should do, but it does overstep its bounds a lot of the time in trying to tell us, you know, rather than the ethos of viewing scripture critically, which I think is important from a perspective,

they will condescend that none of it should be believed at all, or that it should be completely rationalized into some form of, you know, pre-modern psychology, which I don't believe. And the thing is if you're going to manipulate then, the text, what I have seen is it's in the translation. We have texts that are, right, so the Hebrew Bible, which comprises the Old Testament, the first section of the Bible, right? that's all the Thou shalt not do this, thou shalt not do that. You know, I am a jealous and vengeful God. That's the Old Testament, that's the Hebrew Bible. The New Testament, I believe, takes place 400 years after the last book of the Bible. That's sort of, you know, they call it gospel. Gospel means the good news. It's the new testament. This is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thehehellishellususususususususususususususususususususususususus. the. theolususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususus. I th. I th. I is. I is. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. I. th. I. I. th. I. th. th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I the. I am. I am the. I am the. I am the. I am the. I am the. I am the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they call it gospel. Gospel means the good news. It's the New Testament.

This is the new law that has been delivered. And so the Hebrew Bible is written in Hebrew, but like ancient Hebrew, which is very, very different. And the New Testament is written in coin and attic Greek, an ancient form of Greek that's not spoken anymore. So, these two things get translated. The Old Testament gets translated into Greek becomes the subtuagent.

The subtuagent then gets translated into two different forms of Latin, the most common being the Vulgate. You take the book of Isaiah, the prophet. That's an Old Testamenttestament Hebrew book right Isaiah was a prophet It's from Isaiah 14 that you get this whole lucifer thing and the the Greek That it was translated into before the Latin says eos forost. Proi which means like dawn light of the morning. That gets translated in Latin to Lucifer or Lucifer, which means light bearer.

If you read the passage from top to bottom, unequivocally, in any language, you see that the prophet is talking about a king of Babylon. He, that is a taun star of the morning is a title for today. The, that is a the the the the the the the the tod. In the the the the toda. In. In the the the the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. In toe. toe. In toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the the the the the the the the the todeananananananananananananananananananan. toeufe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to prophet is talking about a king of Babylon. That is a today, the dawn star of the morning is a title for a king that he's currently like shit talking in this whole passage. Later in time, right, that gets translated, that gets Augustine of hippo, St. Augustine, you have a bunch of saints, you know, in the late antique period, middle ages and renaissance onward, they start referring to Lucifer as synonymous with the devil because in this passage in Isaiah,

it talks about how, well, you strove for the highest and you fell. But also in one of the gospels of Peter, I think it's second Peter, Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer, is a term that Peter uses to refer to Jesus in the Latin Vulgate. So if you're going to screw around with anything, it's in the etymology, it's in the translations. Now, we don't need to really look at the new Nostik. Yeah, we found him in 1945. I'm sure they were in somebody's private collection. I don't think we actually dug them up.

I'm sure some old rich dude or family had him in a bookcase somewhere that they took out when they got drunk on their birthday or to show their friends. But what we have there are genuine documents that aren't only Gnostic. Some of them are hermetic. And not only that, but that's not our first reference to narcissism. Nosticism doesn't get introduced at any point. Nosticism is there from the beginning. The earliest church fathers are talking about the Nostics.

Except they're saying, screw them. We want our version of Christianity to be the, you know, Catholic means in Greek, it's a Greek word for universal. They want, they claimed they had the universal Christianity. Such dangerous conversations. I just find it so interesting. And I hope you guys enjoy that because I think it so interesting. And I hope you guys enjoy that, because I think it's interesting. So do you think Lucifer was a fallen angel?

No, I don't. I think, personally, I think that there are issues of translation that hysteria will make you run away with this shit. Satan is, Satan is not a fallen angel in the Hebrew Bible. Satan is something kind of like a, I don't want to say court adjudicator, he's almost like a prosecutor in like the court of L, right? Like, God is like the judge and Satan, Satan, he is the adversary or the accuser. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor, he's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor, he's the prosecutor, he's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor, he's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor. He's the prosecutor of L, right? Like, God is like the judge and Satan, Satan, he is the adversary or the accuser. He's the prosecutor. He's the tempter. That's how Satan is portrayed in the Old Testament. It's not until the Book of Revelation, right? Written years after Christ's, you know, the Christ event ends or really capitulates with the death and resurrection of Christ. St. John the Divine is in a cave on the Greek island of

Patmos and he writes this insane surreal kind of track about the end of the world and we call it revelation right because revelation means to be revealed, it was revealed to me. He starts the book off by saying, you know, when he starts describing his thing, he says, I was in the spirit, when. So he was in an altered state of consciousness when he received this stuff. And it's all this crazy stuff, and it's really from that book, which is the last book of the Bible, that it talks about Satan being a fallen angel. So if the book of Isaiah was written hundreds of years before we even thought of Satan as a fallen angel,

which happens in the book of revelation, then you're dating things anachronistically. And so I am a believer. I'm not somebody who, I don't have to rationalize stuff. I know there is shit that I am not gonna know while I am in a body, and that's okay. There is another type of knowledge that you have that transcends the intellectual, it transcends the rational.

That's the knowledge of the heart. That's, that's, that's, noses. That is the spiritual experience experience But when it comes to dealing with occultism and Christianity and spiritual mysteries, you have to get right what you can. Otherwise, like, we're going to keep going off into left field, you know. There was a huge movement in the 1800s with people like Helena Blavatsky. They had, I mean, the Theosophical Society for anyone who's familiar with them, they had a magazine called Lucifer Magazine, and they thought he was the hero,

the light bearer. You know what I'm saying? And that to them, they didn't associate Satan with Lucifer. So, it's, it's, to me, I feel like the internet is a really, really great way for people to communicate, and you and I can have this conversation right now. But there's something really strange about something that's so broad, yet somehow super-specific messages just get driven home. They get pounded through. There's, there's, in the public dialogue on a technology like this, there's still such little nuance.

There's such little, it's almost like people want to get carried away with this, there's still such little nuance. There's such little, it's almost like people want to get carried away with this shit. So, so I believe that the battle of this realm is between fallen angels and God. Am I off? I agree with you on that? Absolutely. I, I would on that. Absolutely. I would say this, and this is opening a whole other can of worms. Well, I'm all about cans of worms. I mean, like, this is the show to do the cans of worms.

But, you know, for me, and then I want to hear your theory that is the can of worms, but for me, so much of this is like all these pagan gods are either fallen angels or Nephalms. Yeah I would say that so actually what you're talking about is like spot-on with essentially ancient Greek neooplatanism. So even some of the, you know, most sophisticated philosophers of ancient like Hellenistic Greece would agree with you. They called them the Archons. And they, these are essentially planetary rulers, right? Each, each planet has this like, it's the physical body. The same way like I have a soul, which is kind of like my archetype, which is kind of like my archetype, like my archetype, you know, which is kind of like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this like, it's the physical body. The same way like I have a soul, you know, which is kind of like my archetype, it's like, it's not necessarily the me behind my eyes,

but it animates me, it's this kind of, you know, Ike principle. They would say that the Arcons, the physical body of the Arcons, were the one of the planets, right? And that's their physical body, but they have a soul, they have an archetype, a whole hierarchy of intelligence, and that corresponds to the ancient gods. Absolutely. I mean even in ancient Sumer and Mesopotamia, they believed that when you looked at those planets, that's that God's body. And yeah, absolutely. But here's the can of worms. The can of worms, and this we get from narcissism,

is the fact that embrace yourself, especially like Bible-thumping Christians, I'm gonna get spanked in the comment section. God have mercy on your soul in the comment section. There are there are two gods. One is the absolute. That is the transcendent God from which everything comes spiritual and material and it's a unity. And this was conceptualized very very early on in ancient cosmology, they symbolized it by Atum, and that got carried over into the Greek Neoplatonic traditions, and they conceptualized it as Tohen, the one. You couldn't really say anything about it because it's everything in latent potential.

And so that, the absolute, Plato actually refers to it kind of, there's this kind of disagreement, but he refers to it as the good. To Agathon. Now, you get the Hebrew Bible, and in the Gnostic sects of Valentinianism, Basilitianism, and particularly Sethianism, all related right to this Neoplatonic Hermetic Tradition, what I was saying earlier about Alexandria, the city and Europe being so important, all this stuff was coming together. It was in this philosophical, religious stew, this beautiful point in history that we really don't often get taught about.

Hellenistic Egypt, all of this stuff flourished there, started there, moved outward into the world from there. And it's really there that, a lot of people think Christianity came directly out of Judaism. If anything, Christianity came out of Hellenized Judaism, the Judaism of ancient Egypt after the conquests of Alexander, the Great, around 33 BCE, and for several hundred years onward. But you have those Gnostic sects talking about, how could the God of the Old Testament, I am a vengeful God, right?

You shall worship no other gods before me. The God that says in one of the Psalms, I think it's Psalm 68, you know, you shall dip the tongue of your dogs and the blood of thine enemies. Oh my right, how could that be the same author as the all-loving, all-knowing, all-forgiving God that Christ constantly talks about? And so that's kind of this whole idea behind the revelation of Christ, is that he comes to bring the good news. It's the new law, you know, and reorient us. And so they essentially, the Gnostics basically say in a lot of their texts,

and for anybody that wants to read those texts, there are a few PDF formats that are free, otherwise you can buy good translations. It's called the reality of the rulers, or the hypotheses of the Archons in the Greek, and the Secret Book of John. Okay, that's an apocryphal book. And they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the they the they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thine, thine, the, thine, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and the, and the, and tho, and tho, and tho, tho, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. T, th. T, th. They are th. They are th. They are th. They are th. They are th. They are the, the, the, the, the. They are the. the. the. thean, thean, thean, thean. thean, thean. theeean. theeeeeee. the. the. They are that's an apocryphal book. And they basically talk about how the God of the Hebrew Bible, they call him the Demiurge. Whoa, he went there, Demiurge. What's it called? It's lower. The secret book of John? and the reality of the rulers, if you read those two together, I mean, there's some pretty controversial shocking stuff in there for as early as it was written,

but it's, I mean, it just blows the doors off man. And then there's this whole tradition that continues through time in the occult world, trying to preserve this Gnostic knowledge and help humanity remember that like, look at what happened to Christianity, right? We followed all those thou shalt knots and all the old testament rules and we, you know, we basically threw away as an institution the forgiveness and love of Christ and look what happened. I mean, it's a dominion of evil. That's so crazy. Is it possible that we, the New Testament is for a different human almost, you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like Is it possible that we, the New Testament is for a different human almost, you know, like that people have evolved and and that God dealt with a different, different state of, you know, human existence? The Old Testament, I think, I think, personally, the thing is that I don't want to get too like bogged down in like all the semantic.

I the semantic. I think, I that, like, all the thing is that I don't want to get too like bogged down in like all the semantics and and I guess historical stuff, but what I want to say I guess what I want to communicate is that from my reading of everything they're two wildly different beings in that one kind of belongs to a Sumerian pantheon, right? Abraham, really the first Jew, right? He came out of Sumer. He came out, he was a Sumerian, him and his wife, Sirai, and Lott, nephew and Lott's wife, they are told you have, you go out into the desert, you leave Ur, the city, and I will make you the father of nations. I have this promised land for you. It's contractual. There's, there's an agreement being bartered. And you know, there's Yahweh, there's L, and these are gods, you know, storm

gods and things like that from the Sumerian Pantheon. Whereas, you know, the God Christ talks about is it's more abstract. It's loving, you know, so there's this kind of fatherly benevolence to it, at least for that time period. But it's just not concerned with laws of retribution. As a matter of fact, you can see it in the things that are being asked of the people. So El and Yahweh in this kind of like pact that they make with one another, and many names, Adonai, you know, Shada'ai, al-Qa, all these things, these different Hebrew names for this, tha, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and it, their, and it, and it, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thiiii, thii, their, their, their, their, thi, you know, Shah Da'i Al-Qa, all these things, these different Hebrew names for this God or aspects of this God. It's a contractual basis. He basically says, listen, this is what you got to do.

You got to get circumcised. You got to, you know, there are certain laws for eating and things like that. You have to go to this place and then I'll give you X, Y, and Z. And it's almost always of a material nature, whether that's riches or whether that's a kingdom, a kingship, or whether that's land itself or whether that's you know prominence. Whereas the message of the Christ is a message of abnegation of the world, he asks us to walk away from this world, to to walk away to walk away to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to the the to the to the to to the the the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to the, thexyxyxyxyxyxy, to to thy and thy and thy and thy and thy and thee, thy, thy, thy, thy, thyxxxxxxxyxxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxxxx, theyx, theyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy, the the the, the, to to the, toeee, toee, the, thee, thee, the, the, thy, the, the, the of the Christ is a message of abnegation of the world, he asks us to walk away from this world, to walk away from contractual agreements of the material, right? What does Christ say? He says, you cannot serve two masters, you cannot serve God and money.

And the interesting thing is in the King James, they never translated that word. They kept it as the Greek mamonas. Who knows why, right? Maybe because they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't the the the the th they don't the th the to th to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to walk to walk to to to to to to to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to walk to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the w. the their their their their their their their their their their their their the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. th. the world. the. the. to to to to to to to to to th. to translated that word. They kept it as the Greek mammonas. Who knows why, right? Maybe because they don't want the populace saying, you know what, Christ says I'm absolved of all my debts. But he asks us to turn away from all of that. So I don't necessarily see it as being like an evolution of one God's dispensation, so much as I see it as a human being who learned the truth about the ultimate reality and then allowed, by giving up his ego, his persona, because that's what you have to do, right, to say goodbye to the world, you have to suffer what we call the philosophic death. He gave up his ego and his persona and allowed,

you know, the highest conception of spirituality that is available for human beings to be embodied in him because it's really interesting. The Basilians, they don't celebrate the birth of Jesus around the winter solstice, the way the rest of the traditions did. They celebrated it traditionally in the spring around the time when he was baptized in the winter solstice, the way the rest of the traditions did. They celebrated it traditionally in the spring around the time when he was baptized in the River Jordan. And that's because that's when Jesus, the man, became the Christ. Christos means an an anointed, right? But also an anointed, has a connotation of oil. And they would an theans and priests. Yes, he's high priest. Yes, he's king. But what a lot

of people don't realize is this isn't an age before soap and it was by oil that people cleaned themselves. And so the term, the term of anointment is a purification by oil and by water at the hands of John the Baptist. And it's at that point when he kneels in the, in the river Jordan for baptism. And it says this in canonical Gospels, the dove of the Holy Spirit descended upon him. The sky is opened up and God said, behold, this is my son in whom I am well pleased. Listen to him. And it's from that day forth that the Christ is born on earth. That's crazy man. I'm all about that day forth that the Christ is born on earth. That is crazy man. I'm all about that.

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It's so ridiculous. It's it's a borderline offensive. But that's what they do. Like it's I like or if you like you'll watch let's say 90-day fiance, they'll have a version of the commercial. And then when you watch Monday manipulation because they're manipulating you at this point everything is and I think I think kids right especially kids aren't like truth seekers they're not generally not hungry for the you know the

existential spiritual truths they want to be cool yeah like like please God you know do anything you want to me, but just make me cool. I mean, it's kind of, you know, they say what you want about education, but at the end of the day, we're, since the advent of institutionalized mandatory education systems, you're ripping the kid out of the home, right? The traditional, that's the nucleus of tradition and of structure and feeling like a familial belonging, taking that kid out of there five days a week for like six to eight hours a day and you're putting them in basically. I mean, like, I feel like my middle school and high school were like, I felt like an inmate, you know, I felt like I was in jail. It's set up like that. It's set up. Yeah. Oh yeah. You get, you get your time in the

yard, you know, every day, a little time in the yard. You have a prescribed time to eat. You know, you have to ask permission to go, you know, and if they're doing something. they're doing something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something something. the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You get, you're their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their ti. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. time. you. you. you. you. you. you. you pass to go the bathroom. Also, I know, like, because my parents are both teachers. When they go the opposite of that, we go, what are these teachers doing? What do you mean? You know, when you're like, oh, you don't have to do anything, you don't have to ask for permission, you can go do whatever you want. That's not how society works. No, I'm with you on that. I don't think kids search for the truth. I think they search for interesting and cool. Yeah. And that's why all that stuff. Nothing's more devastating like he said for a kid than not fitting in. So when I was very young, I went with my father the Las Vegas. We were very, very, I think I was 18 years older. I just had gone to college. He was out visiting me. That's fun. And they the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's why. that's nothing. that's nothing. that's fun. And they had Miss Nude America was going on at like the Sands, right?

And my dad wanted to go and I wanted to go. We were most, we were both knuckle tracking scumbags, right? I would, and but this will let you know how they, so we go there, we sit there, it's a giant strip bar, it's like a giant strip bar in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in this in this in this giant casino and they're like trying to name Miss Newed America, right? So the girls would walk around to meet all the guys and I noticed that they were all just coming to me. And I go, why is that?

And they know that my dad's age, they know the game, they know they're not going to to go their game, they know they're not going to bother with, their, their, their, the just want your money. So they're like, I'm not even gonna bother with that old guy who knows what I'm doing here. I'm gonna go with this young dude who's impressionable, young dumb, and I'm just gonna try to get extract wealth from him. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That's exactly what's happening. So when we look at what they're doing with, I mean, like, think about what, I I defend teachers because I don't think all teachers are Marxist I think a lot of them are just working within

the system and there's some crazies within there right but when you look at these like crazy counties like where San Francisco is in Oregon and they have all you have this like oh we don't have to tell the parents, that's done on purpose. Because kids are impressionable and they want to stand out and they think this, if I, if I'm a boy and I show up as a girl, people are gonna talk about how cool I look. But at my parents, like if my daughter, I'd be like, you're not doing anything to your 18 if you're 18 you want to do some stuff then we'll have a conversation but ain't happening.

Especially if you already don't fit in and you know that you know there's no other you know I mean you're just grasping for anything. Yeah you're just trying to find a way to be the cool kids it's kind of when I'd walk around with this whole girlfriend I have back in and she saw a psychic and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I'd th. I'd th. I'd tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi. It's tho tho tho tho tho thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thin. thin. thin. I's they're th th th they're they're they're they're the they're they're thinn't her in and she comes into the psychic, but the psychos he has to leave. Because they know I'm going to call him on their bullshit because she's going to believe in fucking fairy tales, right? They know if a guy's going, what? Come on, you're talking out your ass, right? They get rid of the guy and they can emotionally manipulate the woman. I love this talktalk about I am so like in the spirituality

it is like can take it over my life and I it is what I believe in and I just I can we ever really truly get to the bottom of of the truth of our history and our connection with God? Do you think you can ever get to that? because there's been so long and the so the to? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. they. they. I I I I they. the they. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the truth of our history and our connection with God. Do you think you can ever get to that? Because there's been so long, and there's so much influence and all that stuff. Can you get to the center of this tutsi-pop? The thing is like, right, so that's kind of why I take the whole Gnostic attack,

because they weren't trying to sell you some list of beliefs. They were trying to explain a system that led you to your own spiritual experience. And that's why Nostik or NOSIS is such a hairy term for academics, because there's virtually nothing written about the experience down other than, you know, it was spiritual knowledge and everybody's was somewhat different. And I think that, you know, that to me is much more in line with the reality of things. When I was going to church and I was taking communion and praying and stuff, it was, it was a good, it fulfilled, it's like scratched an itch, I think that was very human in me, but

none of the magic was there, literally and figuratively. It was just kind of this humdrum thing. I went in and there was a feeling of calmness and piety. But it was when I really started investigating these paths to having my own spiritual experience. That's when things started to get real and I started to have experiences, you know, that defy words and are very, very intimate and personal. And like I was saying earlier, right, there's a level of knowledge that is discursive, it's intellectual, but that should only be a scaffolding, right? That's that's not the the end. That's the means, hopefully, right? Because nowadays, like you're saying, to your point, Sam, I agree 110,000 percent with you and I felt that way so I was 14 years

old, which led me down this path of questioning, there is definitely a spiritual war going on and it hasn't been much of a war for the past couple hundred, you know, or past few centuries because we were just now becoming aware of it. They were whipping our asses, you know? And now I guess we're at a point where we're kind of maturing beyond a spiritual infancy. And I don't want to use the term waking up. I don't like that term, but we are becoming a little bit more aware. And so now it's becoming much more heavy-handed. But you know

having those spiritual experiences really blew the doors open for me and it's all there. You know they're not going to tell you what to experience or what's going to happen or what you need to believe, but there are methods of getting there, or at least the preservation, right, throughout time and throughout, you know, groups of people who learn this stuff and practice it. The preservation of that, that alternative, because, you know, to kind of cap off my point there is that there's an intellectual knowledge, but there's that nosis, spiritual experience, and that's closer to like capital T truth. We can talk about it all day, but in a sense, like every word I speak is a tiny coffin for

like the reality of the situation. I love that. That's great. So I can tell you've obviously read a couple books and we just and we just and our last guess was talking about the Mandela effect and how he thinks they're changing the Bible. Have you noticed any any verses change? Have you not found a verse in the Bible? You that you've gone down? Yeah. Why are some of the books allowed into the Bible that you've gone down. I mean, yeah. Why are some of the books allowed into the Bible? Why were other ones not? This gets into the manipulation that we're talking about.

Why are some? You go back to old, you know, you find books for the 16,700s. They have passages that are no longer in the, uh, the Bible word manipulation, stuff like that. What are your thoughts? I've seen certain things in newer printings of, I believe, the King James. I think it's in some of the Psalms. I couldn't really tell you exactly which ones, but they're taking out prayer as a means to combat demonic possession and spiritual, I guess, like you're saying, that kind of like adversarial spiritual warfare. One of the things that exorcists are constantly talking about,

or at least, you know, really, I guess, seasoned ones when you talk with some of them. I don't know when you would do that, but I have. And a couple of the things that are really interesting are that they they recommend prayer but they also recommend the Psalms chanted like daily, just have it playing. If you're struggling with with dark forces, you know, things like addiction and stuff and and or the potential of some sort of possession. Real deal stuff, right? Because they go through this whole process where they rule out psychological, like they

don't want to have to perform an exorcism on you. If you just need counseling, they want you to do that. But if it comes to the point where it's like nothing has helped, that work, and you're showing these true blue signs, you know, communicating in languages that you have no, you have no way of knowing, they'll take steps. And one of the things that a bunch of them recommend is prayer and playing the Psalms, among other things. But I noticed that they took prayer as kind of like this, as this preventative. They removed that from the actual, but they didn't even, they didn't just translated incorrectly like they normally do, right? The King James is a god damn mess. Don't read that Bible. It's very poetic in Shakespearean, in terms language. So you're not King's James Guy., oh Evans no. I mean I my favorite my favorites to read are the ones that

include include the discourse on the translations in the in notes you know or in the in the in the what are what are the notes the citations at the bottom like that are actually in context what are those called I should I can't remember this commentary or footnotes yeah yeah footnotes yeah the any study by with footnotes is really my favorite kind like there's the new revised standard has some pretty pretty good I would say well what what's a really good version of the Bible it's called the the parallel Bible. You say you've got the Kim King James on one side and We've got multiple kind multiple

Variants of translation and and in certain passages you can see like oh, they took women out of that. They took, you know, they didn't translate money because they didn't want anything bad said about that and uh, so that's really cool and also and I think I said this when we were on zero I would recommend people get a copy like I mean it's also it's on the internet too so you can look it up But it's called Strong's Greek concordance or Strong's Greek lexicon and essentially that will give you that you thoub. You just go by passage Passage you want it. It will give you every word in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thronge Greek the the the the the the throngegriolegriolec. thoes Greek throngea. thronge. thiolioliolioliolioliolioliolioli. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theaa. thea. thea. I's thinthe passage you want it, it will give you every word in the original Greek for the New Testament. And you can kind of, you know, read it the way it was written and then make your own decision. That's so crazy, dude. The manipulation of everything.

So one thing, you have a list of talking points that you want to get into but I'm interested in extraterrestrials and the Bible. What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think we kind of touched on it earlier, but I find it in like I guess the discourse on that I'm finding the overlap between the UFO community and like, you know, internet occultism, I guess. There's this overlap, this idea that like angels or gods are extraterrestrial beings, and I know that that's also really big in in sort of like the conspiracy sector. And I don't mean conspiracy pejoratively because I'm consider myself to be a well-worn

conspiracy there is. But, um... Bang, bro, welcome. But it's, that to me is super interesting because there is really convincing. I didn't want to believe it or look at it but there's really convincing evidence of some of that stuff but there's this kind of... There are aliens that the gods are aliens? Well here's the thing right particularly in Genesis, the book of Genesis, I think is Genesis Chapter 6, they mention the, like you said it earlier, Nephilim.

So that word Nephilim, it's of Semitic or Proto-Semitic origin. The root is Nephel, and that means to fall. And then the suffix, I am, Eme, it's a Hebrew plural. So it literally means the ones who fell. And there is this constant, you know, the way that it's described there, and not only that, but there's an apocryphal book. Now the apocrypha are the books that didn't make it into, they were written around the same time, similar authors in these communities,

scriptural communities, but they didn't make it into the final cut of the actual Bible. But a lot of traditions keep them as part of their scriptural heritage. So it's not like, you know, like in Catholicism, they don't tell you don't read the apocrypha, you but it's that's just not what we believe in. Here's some reasons why we took it out. But there are apocryphal books in the Old Testament, the Watchers, and it goes into great detail about how these beings literally fell from the sky and taught, they wanted to, they wanted to, frankly, they wanted to copulate with human women, they wanted to have sex with human women.

Everybody wants to hit that ass. Can't blame them. Yeah, I mean, human chicks are hot. Yeah, but there's, they came down and they taught us all sorts of arts and things like that and they they say that you know You know they gave birth to the the giants and and things like that so but there's also another tradition Later on in that Hellenistic period this alchemist actually was an Egyptian scribe priest who who was the father of I guess modern alchemy his name Zosimus of Panopolis and he talks about it too. He talks. He you. He th. He th. He th. He th. He th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi theeeeateateateat, their their their their their they they theateate, they gave their their, their, I guess, modern alchemy, his name Zosimus of Panopolis, and he talks about it too. He talks about, you know,

so there are multiple historical attestations to this kind of mythos that's just unavoidable. But what's really interesting to me is that there's a third hypothesis, right? And on one side you could say, oh, well, it was definitely an angel the way we think of it, with the wings, what right? Why do angels have wings? Why do they fly if they're not coming down from the sky? You know, why does, why does God live in heaven, right? The Latin word Kali? That literally means the sky. And, uh, the other hypothesis is, you know, um, they were aliens. And aliens and it was a way of pre-modern people for describing, you know, alien contact. But there's this third option that I think a lot of people

don't necessarily consider, and it's called the interdimensional hypothesis. And that's kind of, that's kind of the idea that these things, they're sort of extra-dimensional. So they can kind of come in and out of physicality as they please. And there's a lot there that has to do with the idea of dimensions that it's too complex to get into. But there's that idea, and I recommend people look into it. And one of the things that was super convincing to me, but there's that idea and I recommend people look into it and one of the things that was super convincing to me that put me on to this, I don't know if you guys are familiar, I mean I think you are with the Art Bell Radio Show coast to coast.

Yeah, hell yeah. Of course, yeah. So get this, September 11th, 1997. Art gets a call from this guy who supposedly had this, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, 1997, Art gets a call from this guy who supposedly had this, I think it was a medical discharge from Area 51, because at that time when it was so hot in the public consciousness, he had a separate call in line that was just open to anybody who had any information about Area 51. So this guy calls and he's like hysterical. I mean his voice is trembling, sounds like he's crying. And he basically says what we are thinking of aliens

are really extra dimensional beings that a precursor of the space program made contact with. And there are going to be a series of coming disasters that they're aware of. And their goal is the government, right, has been working with them, and their goal is to thin the herd, to depopulate the major population centers,

so that the herd, the masses are more easily controlled. We're kind of seeing that right now. But the weirdest thing, the weirdest thing about that, and I'll cap it here, because I wanna hear your thoughts, the weirdest thing about that entire thing is that right at that point, it like reaches this crescendo,

and then dead air for five seconds. So it wasn't even like the guy got cut off, the channel that he was on, he got knocked off of the air for five seconds. And when he came back on, he had lost the call. Oh, man. There's like all these articles about it. About how he was, yeah, he's right. It was September 11th, 19th. Yeah, I seem to remember this call actually. I this, I this, I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the that, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. theeean. thee. the. thee. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. Yeah, I seem to remember this call actually. I think this has got passed around in the,

I guess he was all frantic. Yeah, he was all frantic when he called in and everyone. It sounds right there. Let's listen to it. Yeah, let's listen to it. Actually, you need, can you, let me pull it. Yeah, Johnny, pull it up. Are you a flat earther? Sam always talks about how you see people are the super into Christianity. Sometimes they don't believe in.

Well, I want to get into that because it's like, it's like, it's super interesting to me that you know, we've had people on here that are like, we never land on a moon, space is fake. They're super Christian, love the Bible. Then they can't get into like the, the, you know, the firmament. The firmament, and, you know, but they'll believe in the Van Allen belt, you know, and it also gets into like, you know, this notion that like, oh, we'll believe in aliens, but we won't believe in angels. I got the call when you're ready. So let's, let's, let, let, let, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's th. Hey th. Hey th. Hey, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's th. The. th. th. th. th. th. th. Tink, like, like believe in angels. I got the call when you're ready. So let's, let's think about that, let's hear this call real quick. Johnny I'll fire you

right now. He's not, he's not okay. It's gonna fire us. Hello, Art? You know, actually, I don't know if you guys, if I think you guys listen to the band Tool, they're like one of my favorite bands. They put it as, they put it as like a hidden track on this call. That's surely where I've heard it then. Yeah, that's definitely where I was. Let's hear it. Let's hear, I love Tool. Well, look, look, let's begin by finding out whether you're using this line properly or not? Area 51. Were you an employee or are you now?

I, a former employee. I was let go on a medical discharge about a week ago and and I would kind of have been running across the country. Oh man I don't know where to start. They're gonna they're gonna build triangulate on this position really, really soon. So you can't spend a lot of time on the phone. So give us something quick. Okay. Well, what we're thinking of as aliens are, they're extra dimensional beings that, an earlier precursor of the space program made contact with.

They are not what they claim to be. They have infiltrated a lot of aspects of the military establishment, particularly the Area 51. The disasters that are coming, they, the military, I'm sorry, the government knows about them. And there's a lot of safe areas in this world that they could begin moving the population to now aren't. But they're not doing anything. They're not doing anything. They are. They are not doing. They are. They are not doing. They. They are not doing. They are. They are not. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They are. They. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, the. They are, thethey could begin moving the population to now aren't... But they're not doing, they're not doing anything. They are not, they want the major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable. Discharge. Yeah.

Yeah. I started getting. Yeah. Sounds like he's being tickled. That's what you got all that. He's getting tickled. Yeah. That's what you got out of that? He's getting tickled. Can we tickle you to see if that's how you sound Johnny? It just says transmission lost now, so I assume that's going to be the end of it. You're probably going to hear Art come back.

I totally agree that. I mean, if you look at the Deagle report, they say, and I told Brian Callan this and he got the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's me. But he was like, I go, the Deagle report, which is like the intelligence agencies use their data. They say that in 2025, US population will be around 50 mil. I got two years for that. Let's get out of here, dude. Yeah, I mean he so that guest apparently after that he called back and was like, oh, I was faking it. Listen, I can do the voice again. But it didn't convince me because that doesn't explain how he got, how his radio signal got knocked off the air for five seconds. Yeah,

You know, I'm not convinced of that. And why would you call back like what is the. the the the the th. th. th. that??? the that. that. the that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that that that that. that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that that that that that that that that that that th. th. the. the is the is thea. the. the. thea. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, I'm not convinced of that. And why would you call back? Like, what is the purpose of that? That's so weird, right? Unless you wanted to prove our bell a fool or something. I mean, if that was your whole goal. Which we've seen that, you know, in this group as well, you know? I don't think the government would be like, call them back and theyell him you were lying. I do. I think they just kill you. I think they just kill you. Let's get rid of this a fucking loose can and later. It's better to them if they, you know, it calls back. Now, no, you know, and then they kill him. Now you have people going, do you hear that caller? And then you have their people that don't agree with them. Yeah, I came came back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back. It that. It that. It that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he came back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back. It came that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he that he he he th. It he he he he th. It he he he he th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's the. It's that the. It's th. It's thing about it. Yeah. Now nobody agrees with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's really, it's really interesting to me because that,

it agree, it kind of agrees, that hypothesis, just the whole idea of the interdimensionality of these beings. It, it really answers the question of spiritual entity and answers the, you know, the, I guess quote unquote, extraterrestrial question. But it's, it's just very, very interesting to me, myself having experiences. What? You know, one such, what? Say what? You had experiences? What did you experience? Oh, like I had so, like when, when you first kind of, or when I first started going down the, the path of this kind of nostic path and things like that, and in the Western esoteric traditions and you're doing, you know, different kinds of, I guess,

meditative work and energy work like you were saying earlier, Sam. For me, certain things got activated. My consciousness kind of expanded quite a bit. I became like really good at things I wasn't good at before. Like one of the things I became really really like profoundly good at drawing for it for like a period of time and it I'm now still able to I've retained the ability to sort of feel energy and and and to be able to see it and things like that that's been a game changer for me in my life and But then also, there's a period of, there was a period of kind of interaction with things,

entities that I couldn't really explain. And I think a lot of people have that experience, or at least in my experience, I've spoken with lots of people that, you know, have been sensitive to that kind of presence that's around us. You call it ghosts, you'd call them shadow people, you can call them whatever, we don't really know. But I think really, really young, a lot of people are sensitive to it, and it freaks you out. So you kind of push it out of your, you make your awareness a little bit smaller because

you can't deal with that reality a lot of times. And part of that is, you know, gaslighting yourself based on, I guess, common social moors, right? You, like, that couldn't have been real. Yet when I allowed myself to sort of become more expansive and open to these things, that stuff came right back. You know, I was immediately sensitive to that stuff again. Now I have a little bit more of control where it's not like, it's not intruding on me anymore. If I'm out somewhere I can just kind of section it off, you know, but, but it's, it's, that is definitely a reality for me and for a lot of people I know that have come through this path.

And it's not, I don't even think, I don't recommend that to most people because for, for about six years there, I mean, I thought I was losing my mind, I thought I was going crazy, but you know, there's an element of trust that I have to give to my subjective experience in this life. That is one of the key tactics, right, of whatever you want to call them, this spiritual warfare, is to get you to lose faith in the evidence of your lived experience. I'm not saying that shouldn't be fun. Yeah, I mean, what you're talking about is what every, what most people that begin to dig deeper go through. And, you know, it's like to see now the matrix where Neo wakes up and it's like,

what the fuck, what is this reality? And you're like, yeah, man, you can go one and two ways, however you want to do it. And if you go down this way, it could get lonely, but you feel a lot better about yourself. And more and more people go our way, then go the other way. It's very hard to. It just doesn't happen. I mean I still want to do that stuff

But there's also now. There's this other stuff that I do too. I love steak and listen I have to find I have to find brain numbing stuff to just sit there and enjoy so I can feel like I have just a tip-tow in the pool of, you know society like the thi. their symbolism's everywhere in th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I thooooooooooooooooooo. I love tha. tha. thoooooo. I love tha. I total, like, a dark arts or cult shit. It's all, symbolisms everywhere, like really dark shit. But I love tattoos and I love that and just like I could turn my brain off for two seconds, but I cannot join in in the, in the Confederacy of Dunces that goes on with everything In television, I just can't I can't enjoy I can't like they're ruining Godzilla for me on Apple right now You already gave it a shot and it's not working out Well, they're not doing enough monsters and just everything is like the only saving grace to this show is that the the lipy Asian female doctor gets it at one point. You like yeah okay who's the strong woman now getting eaten by giant cockroaches right right but the point of that whole thing is it's like I have to turn it off sometimes so like we said the last episode where Eddie Bravo is like he blue

pills his kid for a while let the kid enjoy the little things then slow roll him out. Well he's pretty blue pilpilled. I mean everyone talk gives me shit for being into football and he loves football and he loves football even though we all know. But he says it's like. And he says it's the only thing that keeps him grounded. It's the thing that he can talk to a homie with another American about football and he just like flat earth. where again that's the only thing but they try me all the time pushing this whole bullshit on me like when ESPN has like fucking four women talking basketball and you're like that where does this happen ESPN where is this I

never go to Buffalo Wild Wings and watch two women debating who's a better running back Emmett Smith or Barry Sanders no that's that that's never happened in the history of time they've never been to the nail nail nail nail nail nail nail nail nail nail nail the nail their their their their their to their their to their their to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they'll their their they's they's they's they's they's like like I was like I was like I was liked I was liked I was liked I was liked I was like I was like I was like like like like like like like like like like like like their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they. they. they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. they. they. I was. they. I was. I was they. I was that's never happened in the history of time. You've never been to a nail salon. They're always talking football. Over under the spread. They're talking about trades. Come on, Sam.

Can I get a little picture of Travis Kelsey on my nails? Yeah, maybe not. Right, but they never discussed that shit. It's just like again, it goes back to getting you not to believe your eyes, your ears, or the wisdom of your experiences. And that is a magic tricks. That is to me, that is, I don't know how deep you wanna go into these, this, these black nobility and what they believe in and the whole, you know, we had Susan Bedford on our show before and she, she went and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th. th and th whole, you know, we've had Susan Bedford on our show before and she

went and did some deep dives at the, you know, the old banking families of Babylon went to China to try to rough them up and China's like, we'll fuck you up and we'll show you why. And they're like, well, why, how can you do it? And then, you know, which is like, Confucianism is an early stages of communism and all all the the the the the the thismismismism, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and thism, and thism, and thism, and all, and all, and th. And, and th. And, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, their, their, thin, their, their, their, they.a. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, their, their, their, the early stages of communism and all that stuff you know it's like it's interesting man I like I love it but the beauty of what we do is like I see their playbooks and that's why you when I have some like I can I can have these conversations because I believe there's more to it I believe there's just more to it than just one simple thought of what Christianity is. And it's like I would love to just get lying that's just this way, but my soul, which has got me to where I am,

tells me there's more to all this, that there's a deeper, deeper understanding to all of it, you know? Yeah, I mean, the whole book learning thing didn't happen for me until after I had these experiences. And okay, I know I've had sort of initiatiatic experiences with, you know, this Christ force. And, you know, it, it scared the shit out of me. But also at the same time, it like, it really truly wiped the slate of my life clean. You know, I was an addict for a really long time and I was just not a great dude.

And right around this time where things were changing for me, this massive experience, and you know, I've, out, you know, out of body experience. And it, to me, I was like, okay, this, there's a reality to this. Okay, I'm not hallucinating this. I know that and I know myself enough to not gaslight myself. So now let's figure out, what the fuck is this? I'm not, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I, I, I, I'm not, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I'm, I know that and I know myself enough to not gaslight myself. So now let's figure out what the fuck is this? You know, I'm not gonna, because it's here, right?

It's a shitty analogy, but I'll say it anyway, if somebody taught you the rules of baseball completely incorrectly, so that they could fucking win every time. Well, you wouldn't walk off the field and say, there's no such thing as baseball, no, you go and try and learn the fucking rules. You can try and figure out what this thing is. Don't be lazy. You know, you have to, you have to dig, but also part of that is allowing yourself to be guided. You know, and a lot of this information I came to, I actually wasn't looking for. It appeared in my life in this kind of synchronistic way that was just like, you know, bright red arrows pointing over here, over here.

And even what I do now is a product of that. You know, I don't, I don't, you know, I'm not like portraying myself as some like mysterious rock star, you know, I'm just me, you know, and I'm trying to share my experiences with people because I am that I'm I am called to do that, you know, and it's It's got some upsides because I get to meet people like you. I get to talk with people like you and And hopefully encourage dialogue of this kind in a wider sphere, but a lot of it is really fucking hard, you know, a lot of it is extremely difficult, balancing this with, you know, my other life and trying to preserve some semblance of distance between me and strangers. That's a really interesting thing on the internet. You know, it's like, you are just some, you're available to people and uh...

Yeah, dude. It's tough listen listen Who was the shit-talking comic what's his name Don Don Don Don, um Which one you really talked a lot of shit on everybody you remember towards and he was like the roasting king what was his done? Don Rickles, don Rickles made one joke joke about Frank Sinatra being a mobster. Frank Sinatra sent literal mobsters to go beat his ass. Like that was like the most simple of trolling and look at he he never had to deal with what we had to deal with. And like Johnny and I were just talking about this like suddenly there's just been this giant uptick of bots again on Twitter out

of nowhere telling you negative shit. All of that is is dark arts magic bro. It's dark arts magic. It's mental manipulation. It's manifestation. It's soul sucking. It's energy. Vampire soul sucking done on purpose to manifest a certain type. There are people in LA that only have careers because they got astroturfed on Twitter into people think they actually had a following when it was just bots pushing a narrative. And they have six-figure gigs in LA because bots decided the a narrative. And they have six figure gigs in LA because bots decided their narrative was the narrative that wanted to get pushed.

And if given, if taking the whole way, they couldn't get three likes on their fucking, on their tweets. But now they get 20,000, like, some guys like, me, pee, poo, 20,000 likes. You're like, what is that like? How do you get that many likes on me, Pee Pee Poo? I don't get it.

But it's because it was astroturfing, cultural Marxism, giving the illusion that cancel culture was real, that it was powerful, that this small group of blue-haired idiots actually were very vast and powerful when reality they were just being used by corporations to control hate speech and we can get into the history of hate speech if you go far enough back it's some very dark art stuff in the Abrahamic religion to air have no rights and you can get into all that that's another conversation another day

but all that stuff is real man we are in a spiritual war they are they are trying to get people away from God that's the whole thing that's what they're doing they're pushing women not to want to have kids they're touching men into being super feminism feminist and it's thi and it's and it's th and it's th and it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th, th, th, thi's just thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thithat's what they're doing. They're pushing women not to want to have kids they're touching men into being super feminism, feminist and it's just like and then you're flut you're taking jobs away from men. I mean dude look at what's done to dating. Their evil plan is so diabolical it's working. Give women jobs women women now can make more money than men because all the jobs that men used to do which is building and constructing and fixing cars, that's all going away.

Computers are taking that over, robots are taking those things over. Men will have no manual labor jobs left. Women will all move in to office jobs, which is nesting, which is what women used to do in the home, you would come home, and she would have a whole nested system set up for the family. That's not leaving the house and going to the office space, and they are wired better to work in there. Now they're making more money, and it's something like, it's called taller, women are taller now some the crazy ass thing what it's like this weird term that they've been talking about in dating where women are now considered more more

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Yeah. What were you going to say, I... Well, I don't think... I don't think that we'll end up going back to like a hunter-gatherer civilization. No. I think what will happen, if anything, is that we're going to... It seems to me that the motivation for being or doing anything nowadays is largely driven by some kind of misguided spite.

And it's led us into taking on these roles that are like fundamentally oppressive to our being. And we, you know, we were like cutting our nose to spite our face in a lot of ways. You know, like, like you're saying, it's this kind of inversion of roles. But a lot of it was very oppressive for dudes for a really long time. I mean, I just know growing up, it's like, anytime I was in a room with other men, you know, it was, unless I guess we were like bonded in like a sports kind of, like, the sports kind of, like, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it's like anytime I was in a room with other other men, you know, it was, unless I guess we were like bonded in like a sports kind of situation, you know, I played sports growing up, but other than that, it was, there was a lot of competition, you know, it's like,

it's not, especially out in like the working world, it's people are not friendly. I mean, I also grew up in New York. So that could be a thing. Nobody's friendly in New York. But, you know, it's, I think if anything, we're going to end up nested in stuck in these reversed roles, thinking that this is the way things are. You know, this is the way that society is, right? And it's now it's not only going to be, to the point where we're so divided, we can't get along with each other, we resent each other, we hate each other, we hate our roles in life,

but it's like now we cannot get out of it, because this is just the way things are at a certain point, you know, in society, I mean, how did they get people to set the table for this catastrophe? Right? This actually didn't happen overnight. It feels like it did, because everything's gone topsy-turvy in the last like six, seven years. But if you look back, the state of mind that has been cultivated, the perceptual interface that is literally installed onto us, almost from birth, you know, um, that, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the perceptual interface that is literally installed onto us, almost from birth, you know, that set the table for this to happen once they hit a button. Once they flipped the switch, every the stage was set. So how did that happen? It's because at a certain point with

humans, there's this critical mass, and that is essentially a point of no return. When things become so widely accepted that there is no turning of the tide, it has to sort of play out. Now the way out is the way through. And I think that that's ultimately what has to happen, unfortunately. That's my opinion, and I pray to guy that I'm wrong. Well, I think that there, you know, you wanted to mention the occult. We didn't get into that that much, but, you know, because I think the cult is just hidden knowledge, right? That's really what it is. And, you know, there is, there is dark energy, whatever you want to call that. Again, you want to have an argument about whether God exists? Do you believe that there are secret societies that believe in dark energy or worship darkness?

If you believe that, and you have to be a real idiot not to believe that, and there are real idiots out there, but if you believe that, if you believe that there's people who worship darkness, then there must be the counter to that, the Yin and the Yang, which is goodness, right? That's just the way it is. They have, or they wouldn't be worshipping it. It would just be the way it is. But, you know, it's kind of reminds me of this rationale that scientists give for the locations of black holes. They, you know, they can observe black holes only by their effect on things around them. And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, th. thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, on the things around them and that's very you know whether you believe that or not is one thing but it's very much kind of what you're describing you can you can observe the present you can you can infer the presence of light by the presence of darkness and I think you're right all the biggest argument for God

there's the passage in the Bible it says by their fruits, shall you know them. Yeah, there it is. That's exactly. I mean, if you look at 9-11, all the occult symbolism, numerology to Alster Crowley is right there. It's right there. And if you know that that exists, that they are playing to a thalemic belief, if you know that, that means there must be the counter the yin, the y yen, the yin, the yin, the yin, the yin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, thiolemes, that's, that's, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, all, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, their, their, their, counter to the yin to the yang of that. The duality. What's super interesting about that is that Crowley actually came up in an organization that was supposed to be promoting and promulgating the light. And he went through it in such a fashion during a time of relative strife within that society

in the early 1900s in London and in Paris, called the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The other members didn't want him in the temple. They didn't want him to advance in this order. And he was put through what normally in this sort of initiate, right, it's a system of initiation and it's an alchemical initiation, a spiritual alchemy that's supposed to transform you. And typically it take, there's this period where it takes between three and five years really, he was put through it in under a year, just under a year. And he emerged from that entire situation, extremely disillusioned.

And we have in his diaries in his notebooks, you know, his, he felt not only disillusionment, but resentment toward his teachers and towards the people in that order that we're literally trying to do exactly what we're talking about, this kind of esoteric Christian rectification within a spiritual warfare. They, you know, they, they, um, and, and Crowley essentially made it his mission afterwards to invert all of that stuff.

That's the thing with symbolism. Symbolism is not bad. Symbolism is the quickest way to learn anything because it operates on the part of the psyche that is pre-verbal, right? Before you learn to speak, you learn to communicate in images. Letters are symbols for sounds. Words or symbols for, you know, the written word is a symbol for the spoken word, which is a symbol for the thing. So we're always operating on a level of symbolic communication, but it's about what that symbol is and the dark occultists will typically, they'll take a symbol and they will invert it. Yes! When they want to invoke the opposite power,

and they can invoke it just as much strength, if they use the symbol, it just has to be invert. And essentially Crowley took the hermetic order of the Golden Dawn, and he inverted the entire fucking thing. And that's his system. And that's unfortunately, that's unfortunately through like these rock and roll occultists, that's what people get as the occult. They get Crowley and like levee Satanism. When meantime, th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, their, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, the symbol, the symbol, the symbol, the symbol, their, the symbol, their, their, their, th. their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thi. thoooooooooooooooo. the, the, the, thi. the, ultists, that's what people get as the occult. They get crowly and like, live Satanism. When meantime, there's this whole incredible movement of people that were trying to sort of foster this, this, you know, esoteric Christian Renaissance, spiritual renaissance, and he was just the louder, more provocative guy. Yeah, I have this theory that he was a rich nerd dork kid and that all of his friends

went on to do great stuff and it was easy for him because he was provocative to get his word out. That's why I really do. I mean, like, it's crazy the people that he's close to is is made was a victim of the, the serial killer, what's his name, the famous one that nobody understood back in the the serial killer. What's his name the famous one that nobody understood? Back in the day Jack the Ripper, you know just all this crazy shit that goes on and it's just a bunch of nerd Dork shit. I think all these Satanists are just fucking beta-cuck dungeons of dragons guys who just want to fuck fat got off chicks and they're just trying to impress them with their cool shit and they're just like dorks, and I just their fucking their fucking their fucking their fucking their to impress them with their cool shit. And they're just like dorks. And I just find them dorks. I put my name on it. And it's just like, but they are manifesting dark energy.

That's all I could say, there's dark energy to it. Molok, Ball, all these motherfuckers are just shady-ass, bitches. So that's my opinion. I love thia thia thia thia thiiiiiop tho th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th- th- th- th- th-a, th-a, they are they're, th-a, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, they, they, they are, they, they are, they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are thi, thi, they're they're they're they're they're just they're just they're just they're just they're just they're they're they're they're just they're just they're they're just that, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, they I love this episode. I could talk to you all the time every time door is open I enjoy these. Listen, maybe you don't necessarily always agree with everything that everybody says, but this has been an illuminating discussion. I know some people are in the narcissism. I just all are welcome and I would like that you know maybe you get a piece of the puzzle that clicks for you. That's what this shows about for me. All are welcome. And I would like to, you know, maybe you get a piece of the puzzle that clicks for you. That's what this show is about for me.

All are welcome. We want to have a discussion. As long as you're not coming on here with quote-unquote hate speech, which even to that is starting to, that term's starting to annoy the fuck out of me. Because who decides what is hate speech, you know, if you want to have a real discussion about any group and the crazies within that group, you're welcome on my show. That's it. We'll do it.

So one more time, Mike, tell them where they can find you. Ike Baker.com, I k-e-a-k-r. And that's got links to the YouTube, the podcast, etc. It's all in one spot. I appreciate you so much, Sam. I think that you're definitely just a voice of open discussion and a forum for ideas. I think that's super important because that space is getting darker, dimmer, smaller. I appreciate you tremendously. And, you know, just thank you. Thanks for having me. Thanks for what you do. Well I appreciate you I coming on. All of Ike Baker's links are in below in the description. Again, final week of Chaos Twins. I'm gonna be honest with you I'd like to

extend a little longer see if we could how deep we can go with this. A lot of people are excited about this. I know I am. My heart and soul is pure in terms of trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to make th. th. th. th. thi. I thi. thi. I the thi. I'm thi. I'm the thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. the the the thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I. I. I. I. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm tr. I'm tr. I'm. I'm tr. I'm tr. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm ththis. I know I am. My heart and soul is pure in terms of trying to make this the best. I'm not looking to make a dollar off this initial turn that off. I'm not off the initial investment. I'm just going to pour it all in for me all into the project. That's all I want to do is see if we can create something amazing which all your favorites voices will be in it. I'm going to try, you know. I always think big and then we see where it actually is. I heard what the big is. If the big happens, I'm going to try.

It will blow your guys mind. I'm going to try. But we'll see what goes, man. And you know, this is super indie. without corporate money, we're going to try to do the best we can and we'll see how it works out. And that's it, man. You know, Chaos Twins, man. Go to Chaos Twins.

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Check out Sam Trip. All right, we're just going to stay here guys and do a little discussion about what we listen to, break it down, a little post-show review. Guys, what do you think of the show with Ike Baker? Went deep. Yeah, you know, I can relate. You know, he's going to get some stuff we talk about it. He's going to get some shit. From people who have this view that I can relate to. I had it when I was younger that the Bible is the literal war of God in any, tho, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the the literal, the literal, is, is, is, is, is, is, the literal, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a the the the literal, is a the literal, is a literal, is a literal, is a literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, the literal, is a literal, is a literal, is, is, is a literal, the the literal war of God in any kind of interpretation of it or any changes that someone's making in those interpretations

is somehow like sacrilegious. He's going to get from those people who believe that way. But no, I just think, you know, someone once told me this, and I can't remember who, and it's kind of trite. It's kind of like an AA sort of saying, but there's room in in the church is what they said, but there's room in faith for your head and your heart. You know what I mean? You can bring both in the doorway. Yeah.

And I believe that. You know, you don't have to turn off your brain. You know, we've heard people kind of your brain. to believe in these things. Well, I mean, like, here's a whole thing. Why don't you take what he says, write it down, and research it? Try it. Yeah, that's in the Bible, dude. Try it all things, guys. And this is all I will ever say.

And like, I don't mind if people come at me and challenge what I say. You know if you're going to bring me some CBS bullshit, you know link, you know where they just have you know Pizza Gate not real. I'm like I know it's real. I'm not going to look into that. But I mean like I'm open-minded to it all. I mean like part of my recovery from drugs and alcohol is an understanding that like sometimes I'm wrong and when I'm wrong I have to admit it. So again if your idea is powerful enough it should be able to withstand criticism and discussion and everything and that's all and I like I like I like I for me man I do not want to

live in a place where you only hear what you want to hear. Like I think that makes us different than everybody else. So I saw this, I saw this man on street interview, right? And she was interviewed, this guy, I think it was Indian, or you know, he's a white guy interviewing a very thin black lesbian walking dogs, right? So he goes, how is there, you know, multiple genders? And her whole answer was, you don't know what you're talking about because you're not queer. And he goes, how does that affect me?

And she starts going off on this shit. Out of nowhere, this like another black lesbian with a Mr. T haircut mohaw. No you're in trouble. He's in trouble. No, goes to the other lesbian. Hey, you don't know what you're talking about because if you went into surgery right now you're either a male or you're a female. That's how they deal with you. And you know what the other lesbian did? Walked off because she did want to have her ideas challenge. Because she knows they can't stand criticism. She didn't have the race trum card or the sex, you know, the queer thing on that person.

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Because you become like a fighter who only fights tomato cans you know and then if you end up in a real situation where you need to defend your ideas you're not in shape for you know I mean if you come on the show going these people do that they're but I'm like I'm like I'm not I don't want you on because I just think it's like it's like it's too low hanging fruit and it's like it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too it's too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too too to to too to to to to to to to to to to to to thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to white people. I know a million white people that are powerless and are in the same bullshit you're into. So if I see them doing it with that, I know it's everybody. Groups, born into groups aren't the problem. It's the, it's the weaponized small, fucking extremists of the group that are the problem and you call them out for that shit. Okay? Black people have the problem. BLM is a Marxist organization. Women being equal is

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guys enjoy these highlights. Here's a clip from the latest broken sim. So here's another thing Johnny and this like is both hilarious and scary at the same time. Okay and sounds like what like this scream scream scream to something like that. It's kind of it's kind of interesting. It's it's like th. It's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like th. It's like the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind. It's kind th. It's kind th. Itthe same time. Okay. And sounds like what, like this, Scream, Scream 2, something like that? It's kind of interesting because it's, it's a sign of how good the show is doing. Dawn of the Dead.

No, I just sent you this. And it's, um, it's hilarious, this dumb bitch. Oh, another shit posting? Yeah another another shit post. We had a big week of shit post. So so I had that guy awesome Picard on awesome Picard. The first time he did it a a podcast interview was on our show. Like a, you go right to like the big leagues, right? Yeah, like we're not the biggest conspiracy show, but we're one of the well-known ones, okay?

So I have this guy on, he brings up some stuff about Jonestown, so I go, hey, come on my premium content, let's talk about Jonestown. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Austin Bacard, yes. After tenfoil you had him on? Yeah, I had him come do my premium content. So after we did tenfoil, you had him, okay, I got it. Yeah, he came on only conspiracies.

Got it. And I interviewed him. You have some fucking podcast. Well, they're all one podcast It's like subsets, right? You work a lot, that's what I'm saying. So, so I have, so this, so he comes on and he says something, which is astounding, which is that Ray, the guy who, the guy who, um, who was blamed for assassinating JF, MLK, he says that his James Rory, James Rouray, he says that his wife was in Jonestown. Well this woman has a visceral reaction to this. What woman?

This wound up, if that's even a B. Scofield. Yeah, B. Schofield. Now click on her thing. What's? This woman up. If that's even a B. Scofield. Yeah, B. Scofield. Now click on her thing. What's very interesting about her, is a real person? Yeah, just click on her. I mean, I don't know, but that's her face. I would bet that's not a real person. Yeah, I don't think it is. But look at all of her mentioned in. She's mentioned in all these things. So maybe it is a real person. Right. Author of Hunting Lucifer on Amazon. Oh I love hunting Lucifer. Yeah, she's the author of it. I'm joking. I've never heard. Oh, okay. So anyways, she has 794 followers, which you don't think is important. And, um, so she, she starts going off on that. Um, he got that wrong. Okay. there's her mom. She starts going off on that.

He got that wrong. Okay. He got it wrong. Okay. Oh, wait. Let me see now. Okay. So, B. Schofield is in here saying.

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It is. And it is a sign that the show is big. You were happy. Yeah, well, it's a little bit of everything because that means more this will be coming. I like it. Right? So, go down. Good. Go down.

So keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Wait, can I ask you, why did she ta-tag? Is that the art guy? Yeah, that's the guy. That's Austin Picard. Oh, okay. I thought that was somebody else. Debunk then. And did you see, did you read my article? Nobody cared. I thoroughly debunked most of Austin's claims.

Now, what, but she only, and listen, she only brings up they kept saying like, oh, his wife was down there. It turns out his wife wasn't. And she was actually the court sketch for his, one of his trials okay and he got in helicopter and start members should inspire a bit of pushback from the host no she doesn't understand the show and that is the that's one saying the show is meant for you this hour we're gonna let you say what you have to say and then the listeners or the non-listeners okay decide for themselves to decide for themselves this hour they decide for this hour this this this this this this this the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tie tie te is te is te is te is teo teat teo teo teo teo teo teo toe is their their their their their to say and then the listeners or the non-listeners okay

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all the time by the listeners. Sheva who threw third party, just tried to get back on the show. There is no way, there is no way for you to go for sure that green berets didn't do that. There's no way it's impossible. It's impossible. It's there. It's impossible. It's there's impossible. It's no way. It's there's there's impossible. There's no way. There's no way. There's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's no way. There's there's there's there's there's there's there. T. T. there's there's there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there's. there. there's. there. there. there's. there. there. there. there. there. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. to. to. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th. th. th. th. th. th no way for you to go for sure that that scenario did not happen. Because we've seen that before. Okay? Yeah, she just doesn't get the show. I can tell if I'm reading here. She's like, oh, you. It's so weird because if you look at her face, she's like, you know, yeah, and she's just getting killed.

Now this is, this is where she gets, she proves and she's just getting killed now this is this is where she gets she proves that she's a fucking dip shit yeah because she goes if you have a k k k k k memmer on your show and are giving him space to spout his beliefs uncritically that is a problem there's a big fucking difference between having a fucking k k k k mn mnam on the show and having a guy talking about Jones town. I mean if you don't understand that you're an idiot. Johnny we've taken down two shows because yeah. Because yeah all right and maybe in hindsight I wish we might not have but that at the time. At the time they were wrong it was wrong.

Now today I think things are a little different and people are talking about things more but she's toll like why would I have a KKK guy on my show that's just like that is such a straw man argument false equivalency it's like it's such a straw man argument so stupid. So she starts going off on this guy and I go even if he's wrong a site that has exposed the most evil cults in the world. There's a brand new HBO City cult I discovered called Love Has Won, check it out. It's like, get the fuck. Also check out Netflix episode, Unwell series about, you know, I suppose, I suppose,

this is what she does. This is what she does, and like, his narrative destroys what she does. I should probably stop bragging. Will you go a nice strong man, will you go up to the KKK thing and go nice strongman argument? I want to type more than that. Okay, but it's just, I'm gonna type more than that. Okay, later. I'm going, I'm right, let me go find her. But the whole point is that I won I wouldn't have a KKK guy on.

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and he was like super excited about it. And then he's tagging, hey, watch it, watch it, watch it, watch it, which I'm following. And I don't even care. This, the point of show is question everything. Yeah, I mean, it's just stupid. that. the the the the that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's the that's the the that's the that's the the that's that's just stupid. that's just the that's the that's just that's just that's just just. that's just. that's that's that's. that's. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. threat. that's th. threat. that's threat. that's that's threat. that's that's that's that's threat. that's. that's that's the stuff that we're showing you right now. Yeah. I mean, it's just stupid. But you know, this is what this is though, this is this idea that they have in some,

maybe, especially on the left, but everywhere in some, in some quantity, this idea that just someone sharing an idea is the same as violence. Yeah, it's like, I mean, it's just not. It's so fucking stupid. I mean, imagine getting that pissed off over that, that you would write a whole article about it. Yeah, it's just, and it's clearly her trying to glom onto your audience. Yeah, and be like, check out my stuff. Hey, listen, she could have just been like, hey man, can I your show I debunk Colt yeah come on the show right up our alley

yeah come on the fucking show yeah and enjoy that we don't ask you a million like questions trying to shoot down your shit you know fact check you in live in real time it's like it's like I from the day one I remember I was like I'm I want to do conspiracy show. You know I should get on Eddie Bravo? I go, Eddie, you want to come on? And I go, you know, I'm just gonna let him talk. Was he the first guess? He was guest number one. That's great.

And I was, and I go, I'm just gonna let him talk. And he was likethat that was at Timpoil hat yeah because you remember I go hey welcome tip all I know you might not remember this but I go welcome December I think 13th or 16th is I believe the eighth year anniversary Timfall Hat we gotta do a we're gonna do a can you look up Timfoll Hack? Yeah, I'm doing it right. Episode 1, over seven years ago.

I wanted to date, what's the date? December 13th. What year? 2016? 2016. 2016. So you started Timful Hat before I was out here. Oh, I didn't know that. I guess. That's like three months. That's two months. I came out early February 27th.

So you know it's cool my sobriety days December 9th and and the first ever Tim Foll hat is December 13th 2016 which is makes that show what, seven years old? How long was it before it really started hitting, what'd you say? It, it? I say it came? I say it came. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it before, it before, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, it before, it before, it before, it before, it, it, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it's that it was, it was that it was that it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it, I, I, I that's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that it's that it's that it's that it was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I that it that it that it that it was, I that it that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I that's th. I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's what seven years old? How long was it before it really started hitting what you say? It I I say it came pretty quick Like did you hit like 50,000 downloads? Yeah, very fast really that's really that's great and I was really amazed by too because I couldn't get anyone to listen to the naughty show? Nobody I couldn't get more than 5,000 people. Isn't that crazy you would have been happy with 10,000 back then and now. And now. And now. th??? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I thi? I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I I I th. I I I I I I I th. I I I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. I to to to to to to to to toeeeea toea toea toea toea toea thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I th Nobody. I couldn't get more than 5,000 people. Isn't that crazy? You would have been happy with 10,000 back then and now it's like 10. I'll tell you why I wasn't.

I'll tell you why I wasn't because all my friends were getting over 100,000 at the time. And I was just like what the fuck am I doing? A lot of them aren't anymore too. You know that like a lot of podcasts. A lot. thapapapapapapapapap. th. th. th. th. th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll th. I'll that. I'll that. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I I I I I th. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'll th. I I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll the. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell. I'll tell of them talk about it and they're like guys that used to have pretty big shows that are just struggling to get like 70 80 something like that. I think that there's a big, well you know when you see Whitney Cummings talking conspiracies you know my work here is done. Yeah, but the beauty is that that our show is so deep. It says, you know, again, our show is the training wheels for beginners to come on and listen. Even if it's a complex thing, we do it in a digestible way. Then you go on, you listen to like, put your floaties on.

The fuck, Greg Carl Woods and all those guys and you know Adam Curry's awesome show I don't listen to that enough I listen one episode so fucking good so yeah speaking Nevada Curry by the way he got in a thread with us on Twitter about somebody was complaining and we do so we've had some vaccine ads run especially at the end of the show where we have a lot of the ads run and this is something we've been fighting the host about a lot but it turns out what we we tho th. th. the th. they th. they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to th. to to th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the the the. the the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the host about a lot, but it turns out what we found out is that they keep change, we can like block certain categories and we've blocked those health categories, like pharma categories. What they are doing is changing the category they list the vaccine ads under so that they can get them through. Isn't that crazy? So somebody, some guy in like Quebec or something was getting ads from the Quebec government for

the shot. And what we found is they started putting them in the fitness category. Yeah, so now we can't get like Bowflex. Right, exactly. But I'm fine with them. But so I sent them another email and they banned that category too. Hopefully if you get them though, please. thii, I they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're started, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're to. they're starting. to. to. to. to. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're started. they're. Curry got in a thing like saying that, to tell you I don't think he knew that he was talking about your podcast, but somebody. He said nice things about the podcast.

But on the show. Somebody is sold out, whoever, whatever podcast it is has sold you out. And I was like, no, it's just, it's a very reasonable explanation for what. I get I get. I get. I get. I that that that that that that that that th. I get. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. It's. It's, I th. It's, I said. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's that's that's that's not. It's not. It's th. It's. It's said. It's said. It's said, it's said. It's said. It's said. that's said. that's said. th said. th said. th said. th said. th said. th said. th said. th said. It's said. It's said. It's said. It's said. It's said. It's said. It's said. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the the th. the that. the the that. the that. that. that. that that that. that. th and I'm sorry. I mean if you want us to keep doing this, if you want, if you love everybody on the show, if you love everybody on the show, even all the way down, if you love my website, if you love this studio,

if you love all the people on it, if you guys have now listened, gone and listened to Mark Show, if you love all those people, dude, couldn't afford to be here without a few. They couldn't be the Ford to be here. I don't, I love the family that works on the show. It is, it is a community that works together to keep the train on the tracks.

It will always be that. Barely. But it's always will be that. The show, I just wish people understood that like like, what Austin, right? Like, I saw, I saw he put, he hit me up, hey man, I love to talk you about Ruby Ridge. He didn't even, he wasn't even talking about Jonestown. He said something interesting about Jonestown. I brought him on and we had a conversation about it. And even there was a guy in the thing was like, I listened to his episode and Jonestown, he goes way deeper. This was a short interview. That's it. I mean, it's like, it's like it's meant that. She could have been way more constructive.

But it's like this kind of like cloud chasing bullshit, which is like, it's all rap battles and that's it and like dude if I'm wrong tell me in a way that is like civil yeah like hey you may be interested and actually this is what happened hey his wife was actually here oh okay I didn't know that tell Austin that I mean it's not like nobody people don't want to get thin but the rest of it like she's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi's is the. thi to get things wrong. But the rest of it, like she's going off like, no helicopters, that never happened. You don't know that. Not possible, yeah. Not possible. Not possible.

And I'm not a fan of using that as you weren't there, so you can't possibly know how it's no evidence. I'm not a fan of that. Yeah, I totally agree. And listen, the only reason that you go, that's possible is because we've done enough stories where that has happened. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not like the most outland. It's like fish people came up and choked that's, you know what thiiii. My talking about Ruby, or that, that, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, the only the only the only the only the only the only the only tho, the only the only thi, the only the only, the only, thi, thi, the only, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoooooooooan, togu. togu. togu. thooooooooooooooooooooooo, tha, talk about Jonestown, am I talking about Ruby Ridge or O'Waco or any of that fucking shit? And now, a highlight from cash daddies.

Well, you know what else is soaring is Bitcoin. Wow, 42 right now, 42 right now, which is just a man. I kept getting these alerts that it was popping, you know, on my phone. Did we think by that two months ago Johnny? Oh, we've been saying buy that for a year or more. Ever since I got on the show, I'm like, I'm just stocking up slowly on Bitcoin, adding it, adding it, adding it. And you know, it's, I mean, I think my average price on Bitcoin is like 15. I mean, honestly, I just loaded up when it was way down there.

And now, I mean, you have some very respected very respected, very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very in the space. And I think this is a little extreme, but talking about, before the having coming up next year, a $100,000 Bitcoin, which is not. I am so, I have seven of me. And I can't get that back. Yeah, you're just gonna get cash at the time it was, it was, they went bankrupt. The value, cash value at the time the company went bankrupt. And what is it??? the the th, th, th, th, th, what th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thating, that, that, thi, thi, thing, thing, thing, thing, thing, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, that, that, that, that, that, ta, toge, toge, toge, toging, toging, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, was it was they went bankrupt probably the value cash value at the time the company went bankrupt And what is it what was it was I mean it was in the teens right wasn't it? I mean dude I mean I just never catch a break I just never catch a break it's impossible

no matter how good the deeds I do I just get F them might be okay all the time you got you got the wonderful project and it seems like it's going to to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a great to be a great to be a great to be a great to be a great to be a great the great to be a great the great the great the great the great the great the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tte. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. te. te. the the the the the deeds I do, I just get F the B, okay, all the time. You got, you got the wonderful project and it seems like it's going to be a great success right now with the chaos twenty thousand goal. We raised 30,000. Wow, man, that's amazing. We only want 35 and it just went to 30 over 30. It's still people are still donating which is such a blessing awesome and yeah we're at we're at 30,000 almost 700. Well that is that still going to stay up you weren't sure the other day if you know they have a system where people still want to donate they can still do it so this should ensure that we get our and at least one animation done.

I just got to figure out how to do this and all that stuff. Is that pretty exciting for you to be putting something out in the world? You know, you're kind of a, you know, I am very excited, I am very excited. You're a connoisseur of those things now. I know you've talked a lot about kids. Well, you know, the whole thing now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now is now now now now now now is th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi ththese things done, and then go on a tour doing stand-up at night book signings during the day. Oh, that's smart.

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I mean, well, gold's hitting all-time highs because, you know, we have high interest rates right now. Usually that's the case. When you have inflation, gold goes up. Is it going to keep going up? The guys I talk to my buddies on Wall Street, they think it is. Really? They think gold may have another 5, 10% upside. Yeah, they think it's just breaking out. It'll go up before it comes back.

But you know, like we always say, I always say you should have 5% gold in your portfolio. If you didn't have any though right now and you wanted to put that 5% in would you do it at this price or would you probably just wait until it. I'd probably wait. I would wait. You know and then buy some ETS by GLD, you know, I mean GLD's up to 187 right now and October 3rd it was 170. So it's jumped up like everything else quickly fast. It's a little weird because you see gold and Bitcoin going up at like the same rate, which is it's a little odd because Bitcoin was always supposed to be like the hedge. And it doesn't sense they're going in the same direction. Gold is kind of a hedge too though, right? It is. Sure. You want to go hedge against the market. And it's weird now because look the NASDAQ the dial these, the last the last the last the last th The last the last th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the same, the same, the same, the the the the the the the the the the thi, the the the the thi. the same, thi. the same, thi, the market. And it's weird now because look, the NASDAQ, the dial, these last 30 days, these things have just skyed up along with gold.

Doesn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I see you're saying, yeah, the market's going up to, it's strange bought puts on the triple Qs. We bought SQQQ, which is basically shorting the NASDAQ. And in the last week, it started to retract. It's coming back some. The NASDAQ over the past week, it's gone from 14, 300. Today it's finished at 14185. Hopefully we sell off more tomorrow.

So I think we're going to get a little bit of a correction. We just went up too fast. We go deep home boy. Aaron, open your mic. Drink from the fountain of knowledge. There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional mind. Wake up, Aaron.

This is only the beginning. There, you just blew my mind. Tim foil hack.