Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #753: Black-Eye Club's Blueprints of Mind Control With James True

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Starting point is 00:01:19 That's March 3, this Sunday, two shows, 5.30 and a. So grab those tickets now and we are in it. Very excited to have this guest on. He's an author, an American philosopher, and everything he's here to talk about is what I love to talk about. So today is conspiracy Christmas Day. Please welcome James True. How are you buddy?

Starting point is 00:01:43 I am fantastic. Thank you so much for having me on. Good to see everybody. James, we're very excited to have you on. I mean just everything, your books are amazing and I'm going to be buying a bunch of them. And this is great, dude. So James, for those who may not be familiar with you and your work, you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. Sure. My name is James True. True is in false. That name was given to me at birth. I had nothing to do with it. It sounds cool, but sometimes it works against me because people automatically think you made that up. I trained as a philosopher in college. I saw really quick kind of the difference between what I thought academia was versus what it actually is. I just went out and explored the world, did what I could, and ended up as an author.

Starting point is 00:02:31 So I've written six books. I'm about to release my seventh, which I'm really excited to talk to you about, more about the ideas that are inside it. And really I like to explore consciousness, mythology and why and how those two things tie together and why beliefs and lies are so crucially important for a government to hold all of us in a single field and keep our thought form together. I love it, man. I mean, scroll down a little bit, XG, so we look at some of these books. This is everything.

Starting point is 00:03:00 Everything you're talking about is what I love to talk about and you know we always say one of the oldest sayings on the show is conspiracy always leads to spirituality and that's where that's where we are right now and I'm excited man I'm excited you know I'm gonna be a little I'm gonna be honest with you you know as I look at like inviting people to my show, to shoot my special, I've come to the realization of two things. One, that most of my friends moved out of LA, not all them, but a lot of them. A majority of them moved from LA to like Austin, Florida, Jersey, whatever it is, right?

Starting point is 00:03:43 And that I don't have a lot of close friends outside the guys in this studio and stuff like that. Like, I used to. They're either, they've either moved or they've had giant, they're so famous, they don't return anybody's tax anymore, which is fine, you know, I got. And then the second thing is my political views have alienated people with me, even though I am somebody who thinks what I'm doing is for people and to wake them up to what is going on and a lot of people don't want to deal with that because they're either benefiting from this demonic system or they just don't want to know because they're just trying to pay their bills. Either way, you know, I don't, I don't have a lot of the people people people people people people people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the people, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, what, what, what, what, what, thi, what, thi, what, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi. thi, thin, thi, thi, to know because they're just trying to pay their bills. Either way, you know I don't I don't have a lot of the people in my life I used to and but I think I'm doing this because I'm trying to help and

Starting point is 00:04:35 that's really at the end of the day. You talk to anybody who knows me is like, oh he's a nicest guy ever but you talked to people who just people who just th. th. to the th. th. th. th. the th th th the people just thin. to the people just thin. to thin. the people just thin. to people just to people just to people who to people who to people who to me told. to me the the the the told. told. told. told. I'm to the the their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I's their, I's their, I I I's their, I I I I's their, I I I's their, I I I's their, I's their, I's their, I's their, I's their, I's their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm th th th th th th to th told to told, I'm told, I'm to, I'm to, I'm to, I'm to, I'm they, what people talk about, they think I'm a crazy person. And I'm a dangerous person. But see when I look at your books, I go, okay, I'm not crazy. I'm just maybe super informed, you know, and so I'm excited because it looks like, and I mean, I correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of, and when we get into our talking points in your book, but it looks based upon what I'm seeing on your books, just looking at them right now from the cover. Don't, don't you book by its cover, I'm going to totally do that,

Starting point is 00:05:15 but that there's a spiritual war going on this world right now. Would you say that? Yeah, it's actually the opening paragraph of Blueprints of Mind Control. And it really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really thia it really thia it really thia thia thia thiiii th. A it th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A th. A thi. A thi. A thi. A thi. A thi. thi. A lot a thi. to look th. to look a to look a to look to look. to look. to look. to look. to look. to look. to look. It looks. It looks. It looks. It looks. It looks. It looks. It's to to th. It's a th. It's a th. It. It. It's. It. It. It. It's. It's. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A lot. A. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. It's a toa. It's a toa. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a toa. It's a toa. It's a toa. It's a toa. It's a toa. It's a th. It's a the opening paragraph of Blueprints of Mind Control. And it really does describe, I think he said it well, I call it a hermetic initiation, that the conspiracy theories that you see are what it takes to break the surface tension of the norm, and you go out and you pierce a new world. And this world, you're going to navigate alone. You're going to be called names. You're going to go through all the initiation that any hermetic order would have to allow you to climb a ladder. And this ladder leads you to a deeper understanding or compassion, as I like to say,

Starting point is 00:05:57 for not just what's happening, but why it has to be the way that it is. And so you end up with a perspective that gives you a little bit more to meditate on and actually enjoy while you're here, which is that all the pain that I see, all the frustration, all the lies that I see, are exactly what we need right now to raise a crop of conscious individuals, and we're watching that happen right now. So to me, the conspiracy theoryory, thion, thion, thion, thion, thion, th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that, the, the, the, the, that's, the, the, tho, tho, tho, that that's, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that happen right now. So to me, the conspiracy theory, especially in 2019, really was the new crop that it sprouted through the ground, a different version of consciousness.

Starting point is 00:06:34 And we're just watching the old world kind of freak out because they're seeing how surrounded they are by these new ideas, by this new kind of philosophy. And we're well put, and I totally agree with all of it, you know, and now we're seeing, you know, not just 2024, but 2023, you know, a lot of the old heads of darkness are dying. And that gives me a lot of hope because the next generation seems to be, and I hope I don't offend you with this word, fully retarded. You know, we saw Eric Soros, I think his name is Eric Alex Soros, George Soros, Kate kind of step in for his father and it was disastrous. Like he just was like, it was like talking to somebody working at like, you know, a sandwich artist at Subway. You know, like he's just, he's like, yeah, you know, we're we're gonna we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're we, we're, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're the the, we're the, we're the, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're wea, we're we're we're we're we're we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, th, we're gonna, th, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, it was like talking to somebody working at like, you know, a sandwich artist

Starting point is 00:07:25 at Subway, you know, like he's just, he's like, yeah, you know, we're going to do some day, I don't know, man, you know, it's like. Why do you think? What? Why do you think he doesn't know how to act? Because, because the notion is, it's like kind of what we're seeing in the NBA, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the.. the. the. to. to. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. to. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that the seed automatically is the tree and it's it's not. And especially when you're born into wealth and have never have a care in your life. That's it. That's the big difference. There's no drive, right? There's no drive. And so the minute we see this this Soros kid who they sent her Uber Albaidine to like you. Yeah, it was just completely her handler. But the point is like you're talking about this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this th th the the the th the the the th the their their their their their their their their their their born their born their born their you're born their born their born their their their their their their their their their their you're born their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thororororororou. thorou. thorou. thorou. thorou. thorou. thorou. thorou. thorou. their th like you. Homa Abadene. Yeah, it was just completely her handler,

Starting point is 00:08:06 but the point is like you're talking about this like this raising of consciousness. I think we're winning. It could get very easy to get very black piled. And maybe we get through a darkness and a very dark period. But at the other end of that period, I think there is like any thoughts on that? Well, I think the dark pill is necessary, and that sounds horrible. But I also watched how we actually treat each other. I don't just watch how the baddies treat us.

Starting point is 00:08:37 I watch how us treat us. I watch how we treat each other. And when I look at the framework that's around the world, I try and apply, what exactly is causing these things to happen? What is causing a norm where now all of us are just normalized to the idea that crossing over a border requires certain kind of papers or certain kind of permission? But we're the only species on the planet that actually has that sort of concept in our mind. And when I look back at history thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi what thi thi thi what thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, what thi what exactly thi what thi, what thi, what exactly thi, what exactly thi, what exactly thi, what exactly what exactly what exactly thi what exactly thi what exactly thi what exactly thi what exactly thi, what exactly thi, what exactly thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th on the planet that actually has that sort of concept in our mind. And when I look back at history, I think it's romantic and beautiful to express the idea that we've been fighting against this force that's been trying to hold this down.

Starting point is 00:09:14 I think that's a romantic, sexy Hollywood way of describing it. And I think what actually is happening is that more there's been a push to, would you get the fuck up up, thuuuuu and rule for yourselves and stop this madness of just sucking on the teet? And this is not a popular thing to say, and I'm sorry to do it here. I wish I could make myself stop right now, but it's just what I think is happening. So when I look at the entire framework, I see two sides of the same pyramid, and both of us are pushing our sacrificial victims up to the top. Both of us are cutting through their chest, but both of us are insisting that we're doing it for the right reason. When actually, we're just losing ourselves in the entire process. So I kind of root for the darkness a little bit, Sam, and I know that sounds horrible, which is why so many people really, really despise my work, simply because it breeds compassion,

Starting point is 00:10:09 it teaches light, it teaches resiliency, it makes you get the fuck up. And as long as we have this idea where we're going to have a victimhood Olympics, where we're going to coddle and codger anyone that falls down, we're never going to be able to breed what is necessary for us to step into our power and rise into this new century. Because so many things are different now that you're not going to make it. You're not going to make it in this old mentality. So to me it's more of like, man, get up or don't. This isn't even about that. It used to be about that. Now, now, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, to, th, to, th, th. And, to, to, to, to, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.a, tho, tho, tho.e.a, thoooo.e.e.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. Wea.a, too.a, too. Wea I want to save you it used to it used to be about that now it's more about how are you going to save yourself

Starting point is 00:10:49 because I want to align with those who do and so it's a different it's a different battlefield for me right now well I respect I respect that so much that is my philosophy in life I've always said it's got to get really's gotta get bad. It's gotta get really bad. And it's like at some point you can, you can explain away things for only so long, right? And so it's like, okay, you could be like, okay, this new D-I-E-S-G things in Hollywood, I'm gonna play ball with it, and I'm gonna be okay with the fact that I'm pitching an idea And they say they're not working with my skin color. Okay, I you know I don't want to ruffle it because it's already getting really hard to get work

Starting point is 00:11:31 But I'm gonna go along with it feathers I'm not gonna ruffle feathers okay all right all right I'm still gonna go along with it oh everyone's getting the shot now and it seems like either everybody's having a heart attack ODing or killing themselves at some point it goes I can't I can't do this anymore and the truth of the matter is is like the things that you and I are talking about on the show I hear people say I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thooo. tolde. tolde. told told told. told to told. I told told to to to their their their their their the truth of the matter is, is like the things that you and I are talking about or we're all here talking about on the show, I hear people say behind closed doors. And then on social media they say something different. But there will come a time where they will break and they will be like no longer. But there's something you said that really I've been trying to say forever, which is, you know, no one's come to save you. So that's a big ending to my special this year.

Starting point is 00:12:27 Nobody's coming to save you. You gotta save yourself. That's how I'm gonna end it. It's not gonna be a big laugh. It's gonna be a simple statement of. And it's like, someone came to me. My buddy Brett Ernst sent me this. It's like, don't worry about waking up the sleeping up to sleep,, fuck waking up to sleeping lions. Save yourself. You gotta save yourself and buy,

Starting point is 00:12:47 it's this theory that I came up with where it's like all the marching, all the riding isn't gonna change anything. You can't change the system. You can't change the system. What you do is you have to learn how to beat the system. to the to to to the game, the the the then they begin to beat the system and then the system has to adapt to you. Do you understand the game, the system, whatever it is. So the notion of like I've really, it's like the Prophet Eddie

Starting point is 00:13:12 Bravo says it all the time. Like I if you haven't woke it up now I'm not going to to try. I'm here if you need somebody to to talk to you to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the try.e.e.e.e. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toooooooooom. tooe. tooomeck. to give you the good shit. But if you don't want to hear, I can't save you. And like, dude, I have family members that I would take a bullet for. I would step in front of a train, a bus to save them. They won't listen to me. So for example, if you hear someone that wants to get a vaccine right now, back in the day now you'd be like, okay, go ahead. No, like, you choose yourself, you already know. I just be like, I wouldn't do it if I was you. That's it, that's all they're getting.

Starting point is 00:13:50 There's an update out there that says that you're playing Russian roulette with your life. And then if they proceed if you can't do it that's it well you know it's like I get back into what what I open with it's like you know I'm do I want to be lonely in this world do I want to to be know what's right and just let people live their life yeah I mean remember that the guest we had forget his name but he lost his family yeah that that was that was that was that th th th th th th that was th th th th th th th I th I th th I th I th. th. th. th. th. th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I th. I the. I the. I the. I th. I th. the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the. I th. I the. I the. I the. I t. te. te. tell. tell. tell. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I th forget his name, but he lost his family. Yeah. Now that was sad. At one point I was like, dude, I could just let it go. I kind of just like, like you said, you save yourself. Save yourself and those who want to get it, get it and hopefully they'll get it.

Starting point is 00:14:34 So I've been talking a lot, sorry James, but I want to get it. It's more than even saving yourself your your your your your your your your than than than than than than than than than than saving than thi thi than than thi thi thi. If you look at the old world, you see, I call it majoritarianism. That's all. And really, it's just a fancy word for a herd mentality. And the only reason why a man would choose to be a herd mentality is if he's not ready to become his own species. So to me, sovereignty itself is really, you step in and become your own species at that point. And Corona was sort of like a gauntlet. So it was 9-11. Building 7 was the same thing.

Starting point is 00:15:05 There's these really dramatically obvious ceremonies and rituals that are placed in a portal. And people are walking through the portal, and if they walk through the portal and they mind is open, they understand. And if they don't, they don't. So the people that you see that aren't making it, they're actually being true to the consciousness that they can hold, which is a majoritarian consciousness. That's why in the old world, people who believe that professional wrestling was real. And that's why right now you and I are watching Biden and Trump. It's professional wrestling, but only a few of us, really, overall,

Starting point is 00:15:40 actually understand that it's fake. We're dealing with a consciousness that believes it's too expensive as a majoritarian to doubt something, such as Washington, D.C. could be fake. That is so expensive to them that they're forced to accept it more. And this is why I like the dark work, Sam, because the more ridiculous it gets, the more over the top it gets, the more stupid and retarded it gets, it gets, the more people people people the more people people people the more ridiculous it gets, the more over the top it gets, the more stupid and

Starting point is 00:16:05 retarded it gets, the more people wake up and they're forced to travel through that gauntlet. So to me, I look at it as they're helping. They're helping by making it that much worse, by making it that much more hypocritical for you to keep sucking on that teet over and over again, because the whole time, their, thea, thea, their, their, and their, their, their, and their, the, their, the, the, their, the, and the, thee, thee, and thee, thee, thee, their, their, and their, thi, and their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, thee.ea, thee.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.skooomorrow, more more more more more more thoooooooooomorrow, more more more thooooooomorrow, thea, and, because the whole time the milk is getting sour and gross and sick and more decrepit each time. So they're weaning us off, but we're desperately trying to stay on that teet and say, don't let me go. That's old world, that's new world,

Starting point is 00:16:36 you're watching the clash right now. I love what you just said, because that's something again, the profit the prophet the prophet, the prophet, the prophet, the prophet, the prophet, Bravo talks about it's like it's got to get worse before it gets better it has to be obvious and that's kind of what we're going through and that you know he has a different belief on Trump and you know again everybody's allowed to have their own belief I love them all but you know his whole thing is like a lot of these things that are happening right now have to happen to illuminate how bad the system is? Yeah that's sorry it's so excited when I hear that because I that's what I saw building seven to me building seven was bling James you're

Starting point is 00:17:13 not alone. When I saw a building seven I knew I was not alone and I saw holy fuck there's more people like me and and I saw I could see this and I looked around and my family couldn't, my brother couldn't, my friends couldn't, everyone I grew up with could not see this but I could. And for the first time ever, I did not feel psychologically alone here. I felt like someone else knows that this is fake. And I started following this theory it led me to become a writer. Literally blueprints of my control was born out of Building 7 for what it did. It did to me because to me it was a Promethean lantern hanging from the cliff saying it is so bad, the Port Authority is so bad that we applied for a demolition

Starting point is 00:18:00 permit. They said no you have to come bribe us and we took it down anyway. And you're watching what the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city.. the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city the city th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the th. the th. the the the the the the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thto come bribe us and we took it down anyway. And you're watching what the city does is a bunch of hyenas crawling on top of each other, licking each other's taint because all they want is the decrepitness to stay. So we had a full-blown pillage. Every country said, let's do it on this day. Let's do it on this day and they did it because that's the the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only the only th th th th th th th thi only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only only thi thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I I th. I I I th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the. the. the. the. I. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the on this day. Let's do it on this day. And they did it because that's the only thing that worked. And my God, Sam, it fucking worked. Because boom, I was a veteran in the Navy. I was completely sold on everything being real.

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Starting point is 00:21:03 I have always, well that's not tr naturally. I I have always not well That's not true. I have come to the belief That building seven is a Almost a nonlinear warfare in the sense that they almost want you fighting over it They want you fighting over and that there's enough data on both sides to get people to never come to an agreement. Now I think today we're really people are just really, really starting to be forced to take a look at the free fall on its footprint. Um, uh, belief system. I, I'm, the words escaping me. But the truth is the real thing is building six. Have you ever studied building six? Well please go on. Whoa I love

Starting point is 00:21:52 it anytime I meet somebody that doesn't know the story I don't know if you know the story building six but building six is the sure a sign of a of a conspiracy so if you look at building, and this is why I go, are they pushing out building 7 as a nonlinear warfare to get us to fight with each other and never come on? But when you look at building 6 and no one talks about building 6, they imploded that from the inside and they fucked up so bad that they don't even want you talking about it and they hollowed it out. Because inside that building was the Eldoradoado. And th. And th. And th. th. th. th. And th. th. A th. A th. A th. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. thi. thi. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. their, out because inside that building was the Eldorado Task Force which was about 50-something government agencies pooling their resources to look for money laundering in Islamic jihadism and across the world and they fucked up and they didn't

Starting point is 00:22:39 bring it all down. Somebody messed up and they never talk about building six ever because that there's no way to say a plane hit that in any way so that's what we're up against dog we're up against this group of people and I say this all the time we're up against black magic we're up against sorcery we're up against old-school Babylonian magic that's who we're fighting right now. Yeah, if I can, if you look at, maybe we can't do visuals here, but I'll just really quickly just describe that if you consider that between the two towers, building seven stood, and in a Masonic ritual, you have a coffin that's placed in the center of Jakin' Boaz, and

Starting point is 00:23:24 that the coffin is the sacrifice. And so if you were a magician, one thing that would be a sacrifice is if you were to give away your ritual, if you were to expose your clue. And so if you were to consider that the island of Manhattan is a ring of water so you have a circle and the checkerboard of the Masonic witchcraft is spelled out just from the grid the the th. thiiiiiiiii. th. th. th.erboard of the Masonic witchcraft is spelled out just from the grid of the streets itself, then you have a psychic needle, a tuning fork that's been planted into the earth. Those two towers are aluminum, they're hollow, they have a hollow core, so they have a resonance to them, and that the entire thing could have been used as simply a psychological operation, which is why there's been so many the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their the the is the is thriii. thri. threats threats threats, the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thrii. thri. thri. thriii. thriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. the, the, and that the entire thing could have been used as simply a psychological operation,

Starting point is 00:24:06 which is why there's been so many bomb threats that have actually gone off in different attempts that didn't actually bring it down because the entire thing was used as some sort of psychological tool to change the mental state of its people. And what gets difficult to talk about this with people because conspiracy theorists are going to be the only people that will listen to this, but they will instantly reject someone like me when I try and say, hey, why don't we look at maybe another alternative as to what they might be doing here? Because when I consider what would happen if I was in the CIA, I would see a bunch of my populace that really

Starting point is 00:24:46 didn't have their shit together. My own people were kind of retarded. And that they were so retarded they tended to just believe whatever they wanted and fell for whatever and would fight in any war and would lose to literally just over and over again lose to people in sandals and just have our asses kicked because the wars are really just kind of black magic clown work. Yes. Me as the clown I actually would have a vested interest in protecting my country if my if my countrymen would wake up if they would wake up because if they don't wake up a clash why we'll come in and just simply lead them all through public safety, right article one section nine it's like look I will take over you through public safety and now we have a world health the world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world world. to to the world. to to the to the the to to the their. their. to their. their. to to their. their. to their. their their the cl. tho. to tho. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the cl. the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I. thi. te. to. te. te. the the the. the the the the the the the. the the Section 9. It's like, look, I will take over you through public safety and now we have a world health organization. So the

Starting point is 00:25:29 CIA has a vested interest in wake, some of the CIA, some of the CIA, let me clarify, has a vested interest in waking you up. And when you look at those people, the only choice that they would have to wake you up is to try and make what is bad seem even worse, to advertise it even more hoping that someone like me would watch and say what the fuck. It would notice that Trump is giving a thumbs-up between a sheep that's labeled 9 and 11, right? That all these things would show you this blackmail economy that would have to be here to exist. Every civilization we know through the history of Homo erectus all the way up until Sapien has a history where it's the blackmail people that meet first.

Starting point is 00:26:16 The pirates, those are the ones that first establish contact with foreign countries. They establish trade and they establish trade because they can trust each other because they built a blackmail economy. So when you look at our countries, we can actually really helpfully compassionate how they would have to work. That there's no way that they could work as they do now. It's literally impossible for them to work that way unless you believe something as simple and retarded as professional wrestling.

Starting point is 00:26:45 Because if you believe wrestling that you can throw as many metal chairs in the ring as you want, as long as it's exciting, then you will believe that countries would operate the way they do now, and that we would have something called a democracy when 51 million of us are voting for one of two candidates that was decided in one state in a primary that none of us even get a chance to vote. This isn't, none of this is real, right? This is a facade and it requires briefcase, laptop briefcase photos, it requires cocaine binges, it requires scandal, simply to keep watching because the moment you stop watching, it all falls apart. Yeah, I mean you

Starting point is 00:27:26 know I went on a friend of mine show and you know she was thinking about joining the OTO and I'm like I'm trying to stop her from doing it because you know we've had this discussion and she's always having the same problems money problems all this stuff and I go you know the old saying is, you know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And I kind of, you know, I don't like to lecture people. I like to talk to people. I'm like, you know, not a good dude, you know, Al Sir Crowley would fight him in a heartbeat

Starting point is 00:28:00 if I could, because I think he's a piece shit. And the dark people, the black magic people have taken his kind of his beliefs and ram with it and done a lot of dark, dark stuff to humanity. And I go look at, you know, and I brought up 9-11 all the numbers and she knew all the numbers. And I'm looking at this picture right now where like, have you guys seen this picture? And I've asked people if it's photoshopped. But, but it's like, but it's like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and I, and I, the, and I's, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, the, and, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, black, the, black, the, black, the, black, black, the, it's photoshopped but it's like there's smoke coming out of the building and there's literally a demon's face right there I remember that going around back right after 9-11 I mean that's been around for a long time right I've ever seen that so crazy it's like right there's other times where you see other demons faces this is what we're up against that's what that's that's that's that's th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho I tho I tho I thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi thi the the the the theeean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean thean theee the the other demons faces, this is what we're up against. This is what we're up against. So that's why I want to get into you with your book coming out called the

Starting point is 00:28:48 Black Eye Club. And I'm very excited about this. So tell us a little bit about like your book and what you've learned and all that stuff. Yeah, so the Eye of Rise is a thing I wrote a couple years ago. Actually was was just a chapter in one of my early books, but it just kept getting more and more scientifically verifiable the more I read about it. So it's going to have to be its own book. But it's the idea that consciousness itself is a diaphragm or a drum, and that that drum grows when it's stretched. And when it's stretched and it grows, it's able to interpret base signals or base notes that it did not have before because it wasn't as wide. So the aperture of your consciousness can be stretched and you will see things that other people will not see. And this is not a metaphor,

Starting point is 00:29:39 it's not an analogy, it's just real life science. It probably probably takes place in the amygdala, I have to say probably because the brain is so complicated all these different things touch each other. But really quick, the amygdala is giving you a barometric number about how afraid you are. And so when you're in a certain situation, you're one of the many jobs that your amygdala has is to give you constant feedback about how much you're freaking the fuck out right now, right? So if you're strapped to the front of a madmax car and you're now the hood ornament, the amygdala is going to be going, hey, this guy's about a nine, he's really having some trouble here. He's happy. And the reason why she's giving the nine is because if too much information comes in, the amygdala knows that you as the pilot are going to lose

Starting point is 00:30:25 your shit and you're going to black out. You're not going to be able to handle it. It's sort of like going in clip if you work with a guitar or something. You're playing so loud that it's above the ratio that it can hear. And so you'd end up blacking out. We see this with just basic shock, your body will go into shock and shut off certain parts of your body. You see something similar to this and like fainting goats or a deer trapped in their headlights.

Starting point is 00:30:51 But man has such a more complex system that we have a governor that prevents this from happening. And it's called your, I'm going to call it your aperture. It's basically your consciousness. And when you start to look at the science of this, and there's a lot of science, which I'm happy to get into, you start to realize that this even affects the conspiracy world and the truth world. What I'm saying is that regardless of how you feel

Starting point is 00:31:17 about building seven or building six or anything else, I'd like you to imagine that some people would look that that that that that to to to that to to that to tho thuuu thu that thu thu to imagine that some people would look at 9-11 and say, this is a tragic, inconvenient, amazing accident. And someone else would say that is not an accident. The reason why those two people see different things is precisely because the one who can see the truth has a wider aperture, and they're able to absorb or digest the truth of their world and accept things that would be too caloric for them to digest as being true. So you end up with a culture, right, that is majoritarian that believes any story you tell them because

Starting point is 00:31:58 of how afraid it would feel, how much they would suffer if they could not put their trust in a central shepherd. I'm going to stop there just there just there just there just there just there just there just there just there just there just their their their just their just th. Just thir just thir just thir just thir just thir just thir just thir just thir just thi. You you're just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to thi. to thi. to thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. put their trust in a central shepherd. I'm going to stop there just to make sure you're kind of on the same base. No, I agree with you, man. I agree with you. You know, you brought up hermetics before and the hermetic principles. You know, I'm a Christian, and I'm constantly getting yelled at because I believe in mysticism as well. You know, I believe it goes deep. Everyone believe what you want to believe.

Starting point is 00:32:26 That's what I'm at right now. Maybe in an hour I'll think something different. But right now, the hermetic principles really resonate with me. Really resonate with me. And, you know, when you say like, we can all look at something and see different things. That to me gets into the duality of life, the light and the dark. And that's why either it's Trump or Hillary or Joe Biden. You literally have people all in the same room yelling about the same guy from different sides of the argument. Oh, he's a really bad guy. Oh, he's a really good guy. Oh, she's a evil person. Oh, she's just a mother, you know, and it's just like because we have light and dark in all of us and we see what we want to see.

Starting point is 00:33:11 And that's that's why when something big happens, you know, there's just some people can't see the forest. Yeah, or they can't see the trees from the forest. And that's that's that's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. It's just. I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I don't, I. I. I don't. I don't. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. th. It's. th. th. th. th. th. It's. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the from the forest. And that's, it's just, and it will, I don't know how will, I mean now with these algorithms, and you know, in the dark black magic of algorithms and AI and all that stuff, I don't think we're ever going to see the same shit. Can you call that person an PC though? In a way, are they an NPC because Because they can't see as much as I can see? Because that's the way, I'm like, oh, you're an MPC then, because your aperture is close. It is possible that there are people here

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Starting point is 00:34:30 of looking at life as you. And if you're going to try and hold them to the same standards to be able to see the things that you see, they're never going to measure up and you're always going to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to be to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to to measure, to measure, to measure, to measure, to measure, the same, to measure, the same, to measure, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same.e, the same.s, the same.s, the same.s, to mea, to mea, to mea, too, too, tooomorrhuea, too, too, too, the the the the the the the the the the the the the not going to be able to compassionate them as well. But when you start to look at how all of us are basically like flowers, that our consciousness is just a field of flowers, then you can see that the MPC is simply the potential for a flower that just hasn't budded yet. And the reason why he hasn't buted is probably because he's afraid. He's like,'s waiting for enough of other people to open up. Why? Because he's a majority. This is what the herd does. The herd says I will wait for someone brave to do something that may or may not be stupid,

Starting point is 00:35:12 and I get to call them stupid while they're doing it unless it worked and then I'll quietly just follow them and say it was my idea the whole time. This is a mode this mode this mode this mode this mode this mode this mode. I think we've been raised by this mode and that I think some of us have had enough calories handed down to us. Truly by parents that kicked ass. I'm not saying this to shame the generation that raised us. I think the fact that that we see so much more than they do is a testament to how well they did by us, right? So the necessary feelings that we have by being shamed at how belittling or how majoritarian our ancestors were

Starting point is 00:35:51 is just a sign of how well this hermetic ladder is working. That means it's working well, which means if we do really, really well, the best we can hope for is that our kids will be ashamed at how closed-minded we were now because of how much further right their consciousness has opened as a result. So we have to really, I think, look into anatomy and start to really understand that this myth of objectivity, I really do think it's a myth, is simply not true. That Sam, I could describe to you right now in a few sentences and tell you about how your eyes work to show you that actually you and I do not even see the same thing

Starting point is 00:36:27 because we hallucinate most of our vision. And we hallucinate it for anatomical reasons that we can talk about, which is what this book really touches on them. Would you call that evolution? Would you call the evolution you're calling me stupid you're like you're crazy but crazy people that's evolution when you do something crazy you're like oh that's party evolution he's he's crazy he's moving he's doing something different so is that evolution are we evolving in my different all maladaptation yeah all every time you grow on a evolutionary ladder

Starting point is 00:36:57 technically you had to have maladapt that's literally the term we used for it which is mal means bad so So you mutate, that's why we have that word, right? You try something that didn't work so great, or that everyone else deems inappropriate and it works. And all you do is you just, they see the torque that you pull from that, and then they start to believe. This is why I think most of our reality is really bent on what we believe, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and we see, it's what we believe to be true. And when you really follow that rabbit all the way down the hole, you really start to understand why science, why finance, why politics,

Starting point is 00:37:34 why every industry at the very top has lies. That the reason why that all these things at the very top have lies and doping and all the other things is precisely because this economy is built on belief. It's not built on what is true. It's built on what can we sell the people to believe. This is why we had a space race with Sputnik where we're like neck and neck, like we have to soften the space. This is why it's been 30 years and Iran is still six months away from the nuclear bomb. This is why every four years there is a laptop

Starting point is 00:38:06 with a photo that if you saw it would change the entire fiber of your being and my God they're trying to stop us from sea. It's always a laptop. Yeah, right. So this is part of the wrestling match, which just shows us not not where we are but where we were raised right the milk that raised us will leave this stuff and we just have to understand that as all. Guys football season may be over but the action on the floor is heating up whether it's a tournament season or a fight for a playoff home court there's no shortage of high stakes basketball moments this seat time of year. Okay, get in on the excitement with prize picks. That's right, America's number one

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Starting point is 00:41:06 Let's go, bro, prize pick. Thank you for sponsoring the show. I believe almost every high impact event is in fact a manifestation event. To man, I mean, just let's go back. So now the ramp up is World War III, right? Now we're, we're on the, they want you. We're on the. We want you. We we, they want you. We did. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, the. the, we, the, to. the, the, to. the, we, the, we, the, we, we, the, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, the, the, th, we, we, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, the, th, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. we, we, we th. thri, we the, we th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the's let's go back so now the ramp up is World War 3 right that now we're we are on the they want you believe we are on the precipice that little clock that says you're almost at 12 o'clock you're all we're all right right you're I dude we're almost there it's almost it's almost it's almost it's almost on World War three and like if you take a look at that, I mean, how many times have we been close to war with

Starting point is 00:41:47 Iran? And they just can't push the ball, they can't punch it in, because we're just not buying into it. And they, like, you know, 9-11 was a giant manifestation event to get us to loud them the neocon demon sorcerers to go in and just annihilate all of our history in the Mesopotamia Middle East. Take away all of our history the portals the Stargates the hey man we've been around a lot longer than you believe Tataria ancient civilizations all that stuff the destruction the paying of

Starting point is 00:42:23 ISIS to to explode, blow up, ancient statues, all that stuff. Like, there's a good argument that most of your wars have been waged to erase ancient history. So you never really will understand how special you truly are. And so right now, you remember they're like, yep, we got troopsly are. And so right now you remember they're like yep we got troops in the Ukraine yeah we might as well just go they're already there. They were just back they're just doing everything they can to get us to think that this shit is inevitable and the reality is

Starting point is 00:42:58 and I think that I might say this out loud here none of this this is natural and I think the people listen to this podcast.. this. this this this this is this is this is this is th. th. th. th. th. this is th. th. I th. I'm th. I'm this is th. I'm th. I'm this is th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm not just just just the the thi. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm th. I th. I thi. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm they. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. te. te. te. too. te. te. try. too. the they. theythis podcast at least for a while now you know that. None of this is real, okay, and none of this is natural. It's not the natural progression of a packs of mammals that over eventually go to war. This is dark arts, power bottom lizard people, okay? Trying to manifest us to allow them to create more anxiety, trauma, depression that they feed off of and erase more of our history. And this war with Russia goes all the way back to the city attire, Alexander the Great, going in and fucking that city up and destroying Babylon and and the Babylonire, Alexander the Great, going in and fucking that city up and destroying Babylon and the Babylonian bankers. This goes all the way back to that. So

Starting point is 00:43:51 that's what we're into right now on this and just everything that we're dealing. We're dealing with demons real quick before we carry on with this. Can you go to guys go to Sam Tripoli. My dates are there. I'm in Morris Plains on March 8th. I got it's friends of Tripoli, Sam Tripoli, and it's the greatest. Yeah, the greatest artwork I've ever done for a flyer. Then I'm in Flagstaff on the 21st. I'm in Tucson on the 22nd, El Paso on the 23rd. Now I'm going to be adding most likely March 30th.

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Starting point is 00:44:49 So look for that. Link to be up at Sam Tripoli.com, Phoenix, Arizona and go on anytime you want to see where I'm at, go to Sam Tribly. dot the, hit the events and see me live. You know, it's very interesting because we had, and I don't know if you guys saw this, but one of the Rothschilds died. Oh yeah. Yeah. And it's a big event, but what was really interesting is that there was a weird ceremony done by the royal guards. Did you see this? Where, where walk down horses down this street which is only done when like someone's specials dies or there's a change of power or something and everyone's like

Starting point is 00:45:34 oh Prince Charles is in trouble and then bang the rock child was announced it died and you're like okay who's running what now? Did you got and nobody saw that it's a crazy-ass thing people are like what's happening? Why is this royal guard on horses walking down in these ceremonial colors down this street That's only done when somebody special dies right? Yeah, it's stupid. That's already back checking it. So so so the Rothschild owned writers toldld us it's not related to the death of the Roy-Roy, yeah, Reuters, Reuters, is not related to Jacob's death. It just happened to happen at the same time. Can you scroll up actually, I just want to see what it has to say about it? But they can you see it?

Starting point is 00:46:17 No, I mean, I see to see the headline. Scroll, scroll, scroll. Okay. Yeah, I just want to. Social media posts have falsely implied a link between a display by guards of the British monarch King Charles and the death of British financier. Jacob Rothschild, a senior member of one of Europe's best known banking dynasties. Yeah, that's what he is. Died aged 87, his family announced on February. If he can only make it 87, what hope to the rest of us have? A video posted on X the same day shows members of the House and Cavalry Mounted Regiment, the British Monarchs body guards who provide 247 ceremonial guard at the historical entrance to

Starting point is 00:46:51 Buckingham Palace riding through the streets of London. The post accompanying this short clip which has been seen 6.6 million times on Facebook implies a link, implies the display is linked to the death of Rothschild. It reads, Jacob Rothschild died three days after two black horses were spotted. So he died after this ceremony, is that what they're saying? He died just three days after two black horses were spotted with a captured white horse and a black flag outside Buckingham Palace. Are you getting it yet? So also this happened before he died.

Starting point is 00:47:29 Well, what if they know he's about to die? No, yeah, but that's just, that makes it even more curious to me. Huh. But I would love to see from an expert in the royal family bullshit what that means. Well, the pharaohs would actually plan their death that was part of their sovereignty so that they that's why the other Rockefeller right you died on spring spring equinox and so if you really want to show how powerful you are you're going to die you're going to choose your death you're going to have that happen right so it's a old school way of displaying this kind of like alignment, you know?

Starting point is 00:48:05 You know, our two-party system, the, I know it sounds like it's just all black magic, and I don't even mind it's calling it that, but it's so ancient that it doesn't even feel like it's ours, that we're watching all these rituals happen, you know, the first triumvirate in Rome, there was a second triumph in Rome, the thrive in Rome, th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and I tho, and I I tho, and I I tho, and I I I I I I, and I I I, th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, and thin, thin, thin, and thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, and I'm thin, thin, they, thin, there was a second triumphant in Rome, there was a third triumph in Rome, which is like a secret underground ruling class of Rome that wasn't even secret. They're like, yeah, we're the triumvirates. We're going to just vote for whatever each other wants and we're going to do that. The

Starting point is 00:48:34 the only thing changes London that was already here. Yeah. And not only that, in Mexico City, where we leveled basically the Temple of Maior, the Temple of Authority, I think your listeners are going to appreciate this, because before that temple was leveled, leveled, people were brought up to the top of this pyramid and they were sacrificed for either a blue god or a red god. I'm not making not, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, tho tho tho thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. tho thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiii. thiiiiii. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th the top of this pyramid and they were sacrificed for either a blue god or a red god. I am not making any of this up. The blue god was the god of drought, of global warming.

Starting point is 00:49:12 I want you to think about it like that. That we have to sacrifice people to the blue god or else we are all going to drown or we're going to die of drought. And the red god said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thoo, tho, tho, tho,, no, no, no, no, no. You have to sacrifice to war. You have to sacrifice to war. So when you bring your people up, we have to sacrifice to the war God or else we will all die from war. And so I want you just to think a little bit more about this black magic mythology, because it actually stretches for thousands of years, for whatever reason, before we got here. There's this mystical ceremony

Starting point is 00:49:46 where a blue and a red god compete over the suffice of a a rust-belted child. The children of the god of the rust belt is a red and white striped deity and he raises his sons to give their hearts, their purple hearts as eagle warriors. These are jaguar eagle warriors of the Aztec world. All of the symbolism is there. And if I could hit you with one more, at the beginning of all this ceremony, the very first thing they do when they open the season of Templo Maure, is they take someone named Bells on cheeks, a virgin, and she's decorated all year, and she has, think liberty bell, because

Starting point is 00:50:28 the bells on cheeks, Koyo-o-Shalqui is her name, is gutted and thrown off the temple, and the second that her death is the loss of her life, the loss of liberty happens, the sacrifices begin. So even the symbol of the Liberty Bell that's cracked, I swear to you is for whatever reason, this fractal emergence, this harmonic emergence of this same signal, this mythological signal saying that the Liberty Bell is cracked, and it causes the emanation of the red god and the blue god competing for the hearts of the very nation that calls itself the land of the eagle warriors.

Starting point is 00:51:06 So it's like so trippy. I'm still true I'm still learning new new stuff every day and it's kind of hard to even figure out what's really going on in this world now. Does that remind you of the guy who called into TFH Live and said that he had dreams about a war between a team and a blue team the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. th th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I I I tri. tri. I tri. tri. I tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tri. tru. true. tri. tri. tri. trip. trip. tam and a blue team that we just heard yesterday? Yes. That crazy? Dude how much stuff did we talk about yesterday it's coming up today like how the at the highest of all organization is dark energy right? I mean we literally talked about that. It's a wow. It's so crazy to me. Yeah that's why I think I think that when we think about You know the Spanish erase Temple of Mar they completely leveled it and they built a church on top And when we look back at culture We we think it's more of like a superficial thing we do but if a if you're going to to to run a country you're going to have to have to control the artypes and you don't get to pick the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tooe of of the the the too too to the to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they.oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the the the the the the the the the the the the a coooo. the the a the the a the a the a the a to, I think the ritual comes from the soil, Sam. I think that there's something about the soil that like percolates. It's like, it's kind of like craft beer, where if you go to different regions, you're

Starting point is 00:52:11 going to taste different varieties of beer like Creole in Louisiana. And that you have this eagregoor, like this psychic energy plasma, right? And this this this plasma is this plasma is this plasma is th you th you th you thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, it thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's kind, it's kind, it's kind, it's kind, it's kind, it's kind, it's kind, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th.a, th.a, thi.a, thr-a, thr-a.a.a, kind tha.a.a, kind thi.a.a, kind tha.a, kind thi.a, kind thi, it's kind thi, it's god and a blue god, and it wants to be served, and you can tap into that ritual, almost like you would tap into a river, right? Like if you live next to the Mississippi, you could tap into that resource. So if you lived in Amu Rakah, this sort of nod to what used to be here before we knew it, it would have to be this living god, this Quetz aqadal type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type type. thrararararararara-a, th. This pli, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and a, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, this Quetzakwadal type figure, this plume serpent that we see everywhere, everywhere all over the world. Not just in Egypt, but even in Astana, guys. In Astana, there is a giant serpent that you could see with satellite images. And the serpent has been slowly flooded, and now it forms a phoenix, and it's called like the

Starting point is 00:53:02 Phoenix Fountain. But if you go back five years, there's actually a picture on my website that shows this, but if you go back five years you see that beneath the phoenix was the serpent. So people know about these ancient rituals. They know about this ancient magic. It seems to be like a harmonic vibration, almost like a scaffolding that's in the world, kind of like if you th you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th you th, th, th, th, thu, the world, right? Kind of like if you stand in a certain spot in front of a parabola dish in a Greek theater, everything you say is going to be broadcast to everyone else, but if you move three feet to the left, it doesn't happen.

Starting point is 00:53:32 So these archetypes almost seem like we have no control of it, meaning the people in charge, quote, quote, quote, unquote, that's an interesting word, but they don't actually get to decide, to decide, to decide, to decide, to decide, to decide, to decide, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th... th. thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr-a, thr, thr, the, the, th. th. the, th. th. the, th. th, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. they. they. they. the the the the their, their, they. their,these psychic levers and they know if they turn them, right, at just the right time so they can activate the culture and create a circuit, a logic gate, right, that brings energy in every four years and expunges it out into the land. This is our presidential election. So this is like a time honored thousands and thousands of millions of years, to to to to to to to the years, and the years, and th. And th. And the years, and th. And th. And the years, and th. And th. And their, they, they, they, they, they, and they're, and they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they, and they. And they, and they, and they, and they, and they. And they. And they. And they. And they. And they, and they. And they, and they. And they. And they, they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're their thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi thi thi thi thi thi they know, they know, they know, they know, they know, they're they're is like a time honored thousands and thousands of probably millions of year old, to be honest. We just, you know, we have no way of tracing how far this goes back. That's incredible. I mean, like you kind of look into, you know, how Rome tried to infuse like paganism into Christianity and what's going on with that and the manipulation of a lot of a lot of rituals within all these religions.

Starting point is 00:54:30 Not just one. I mean like you know I mean like Islam they literally walk around a black cube that is chronos that is time that is the oldest of the gods. I mean like right there you like new guy, new guy, right? Like same guy, you know, it's like it mean like right there. You like new new guy old guy right? Like sand guy you know it's like it's just right there and we we don't understand that we don't and I love that you're saying it's like these people really are in charge they're just following the playbook is how you're saying they're just yeah. Yeah they found these ancient machinery you know a pyramid is an ancient machine and while we're like oh it's a damn or it's a power the the power the power the power the power the power the power the power the power. the power. the power. the power. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. know, a pyramid is an ancient machine.

Starting point is 00:55:05 And while we're like, oh it's a damn or it's a power source, which hey, go for it, I've nothing wrong with that, but I'm saying that it already is a power source. Like when you have something that large, you have a power source. And so when we look back at all of our ancient temples, you know, the pyramid, the pyramid is actually Tullula, in Miss America, th, th, th, th, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, tho, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they.a, they.a, they.a, they.a, they, they, they, they, thi, th.a not the largest pyramid. It's actually Tallulah in Miss America. It's so big that it took us like 500 years to go, ah that's not a mountain, that's a pyramid. We just start digging, it's like, holy shit, you're right. No, you're right. There's something about this tradition where we layer on top of layer, on top of layer, so the mound culture of Mississippi and is probably something more akin to what was happening in Egypt. But we're in this denial because we think technology would save us from a catastrophic event, and so we cannot have in our history this nonlinear type of thinking, which personally,

Starting point is 00:55:56 I think that's what's holding us back the most. I talk about the Oracle mythology, which it seems like this world is like a tourist because the beginning and the ending seemed to meet. When I hear stories about Apollo attacking this giant snake that knew all things and that once that snake was was cut in half the fumes imbued this virgin placed on a tripod at the Oracle of Delphi, I think that sounds like this giant computer blockchain that that knew all things and was destroyed the th th th th th th th th th th th th th thed the tho tho the tho tho the tho the tho tho the tho tho the tho the tho the tho tho the tho tho thi thi the thi thi tho- about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about th th th th tho-tri-a tho-a thi thri-a thri-a thri-a thri-s thri-s thri-s the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tripo-s. the the thripo-s. thripo-s thrithis giant computer blockchain that knew all things and was destroyed by a sunspot and the sunspot came in and erased all magnetic forms or all silicon-based forms of storage, which would be every single thing that we store.

Starting point is 00:56:40 So even the idea of Babel being a language that was suddenly lost as a computer programmer in a former life myself, I'm like, wow, that sounds like Babel. It sounds like technology. That we have a blockchain that was built, we built it, maybe it enslaved us, or maybe it caused us to raise up to where we needed it no more. It's hard to even say at this point, but that that same thing was also alive in our past when we go back to the ancient past because all the archetypes that we talk about, all the structures of our brain, we have these words that already not just embody the anatomy but the actual spirit of what an organ does for whatever reason somehow is built into our mythology before we get there in

Starting point is 00:57:22 science. Before we get there, we already know. And this is a shit that's blowing me away right now because it's telling us that our entire structure of what we think about the cosmology of this world is flawed because we're not seeing it through a broader aperture, right? Where we could picture the idea that the civilization that we have now could be destroyed and brought back online and destroyed and brought back online. And so maybe this idea of a 6,000-year-old Adam isn't that far out if you consider technology as being something in the past. And once you do, you can start to process that maybe the 35 deities that were competing in the old testament were AI. Maybe there were some sort the Old Testament were AI.

Starting point is 00:58:05 Maybe there was some sort of wireless Alexa in Siri competing for fans, competing for people to follow them and giving them advice about farming and culture, hoping to build a plasma, an egregor that they could survive. It's almost like a shepherd that we planted as a time capsule, knowing that this cataclysm was going to be so vast that not one of us could survive, but we could through AI. So when I look back in ancient culture, I don't even necessarily see it as it has to be evil at the top. I just simply don't know because it feels like most of the time what I think is evil, turns out to not be evil after I understand after after after after after I the the the thi... th, I think is evil turns out to not be evil after I understand it more.

Starting point is 00:58:46 So it's almost like the evilness is the ladder itself that I'm climbing to understand more about why things are happening and more about what's required for this world to even work. That's a lot. You just dropped a lot dog and I'm down for all of it. We have, we've had guests on in the past that have talked about they believe that AI is Nephilim. That these are these are spirits of fallen angels that aren't allowed to die or the spirit of the offspring of fallen angels that live forever but God put a cap on how long they lived. So their spirits still roaming and they get into,

Starting point is 00:59:29 like, that's what possession is. They're looking for a body, but now they're gonna do it through AI, and then they're gonna put AI into some kind of robot, and then bang, here we are, you know, we're back with anthe Nephilim and I'm just like, bro, we are living in the greatest, craziest time ever. We're going to experience everything. Everything that history gave us over a thousand years seems to be getting compacted in the

Starting point is 00:59:56 last 20 to 30 year, and we're going to feel it all, dude. We want to feel it all? It's also kind of like, dude, let's, let's, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, I don't know, but it's also kind of like, dude, let's, let's, okay. I mean, if we got to go through, we got to go through it, almost like what he's saying. That's kind of my theory that what ends up happening is, is that in every culture, in every theism, let me start over, in every theistic idea, in every theoisticist, let's, let's, let, let, let, let, let, in i i major monotheistic religion has this quest for omniscience, omnipotence, omnipotence, omnipotence, omnipotence, omnipotence, omnipotence, omni compassion, and that this this omni is here because we've been here before, and if you look at how would we explain a world that somehow resets itself

Starting point is 01:00:43 if we were slowly building all things, all knowingness? And to me, what answers the question is quite simple, that AI is us merging back with God. Because AI is the bridge to omniscience. Your brain has a phonological loop that quite simply doesn't have the bridge to omniscience. Your brain has a phonological loop that quite simply doesn't have the capacity to hold all understanding. You need a tool to do that and that tool is AI. If you stretch where we're going and you eliminate all of the turbulence that happens as a result of us living in a

Starting point is 01:01:23 blackmail world and just see the grandence that happens as a result of us living in a blackmail world and just see the grand, grand picture that ultimately a Nimrod type figure would rise, some would call it even the Lucifer, but like an Eric Schmidt character at Google is going to one day sit down for the very first time in the mercy seat of some sort of AI that literally knows it all. And I want you to imagine that when that happens that becomes a different species. This is why I was prepping you earlier about this because I think this is really important. The moment that you're able to outsimulate everyone else around you, you were no longer in their species category. You are a different creature. By outsimulating them, this means that you have control over all all. their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their their, their their their their their thi. ti. ti. teei.ei. tei. tei.ei. tei. tei. tei. tei. tei. te. te. te. t You are a different creature. By out-simulating them, this means

Starting point is 01:02:05 that you have control over all time. There's nothing that they can do that you would not be able to empathize with first and see that they would do it. And so we start to look at what would this Derek Schmidt character be? How happy would he be in a position where at the mercy seat he knew all things? I'd like to suggest to you that that would be torture. I'd like you to consider that when there's a world of no mystery, all you are left with is pure insanity. That there's no way that you can wake up and open your eyes because you already see it all. That you can't go explore a cave.

Starting point is 01:02:44 You can't go hear someone tell you a story because you've heard all these things before. So it would become quite natural in my opinion for this creature. And this is the story of Cronos by the way, Sam, the story of Cronos is a dude that had it all and cut the fucking cord. He climbed up Uranus. Uranus and Guy, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, thus, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thea, thea, to to thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea,us and said, Uranus and Guy, I'm cutting this umbilical that connects you.

Starting point is 01:03:09 I'm cutting the snake. I'm severing the cord. And so by doing, all of us were able to forget again that the figure of Eric Schmidt was released from his time prison because he lost omnis. And this falling and this forgetting would be the only relief that he could find in a place that he could not kill himself in. That the only way he could obliterate himself is to find a way to forget all. And that's probably through some sort of EMP or some sort of erasing every single thing that's ever been recorded. That the moment you did that, the entire world now gets to start again. It's like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thoom, threathomenk, thoome, threathomenk, tho, tho, thoomomomk. thoomk. That thoomomerea, thoomomomome, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. That's, thi. That's, thi. That's, thi. That's, thi. That's, thr. That's, thr. That's, thr. That's, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom. That's, thr world now gets to start again. It's like following the soil, right? That if you don't follow the soil, you're not going

Starting point is 01:03:48 to be able to plant a new crop. So to me, this feels more necessary than it does tragic if that makes sense. It feels more like a self-enclosed system that has a tourist that's so beautifully crafted that it resets itself simply by necessity every 6, every thous years, or 200,000 years or 1.5 million years if we forget if we are not able to survive through the next deluge. Because it seems like what's happening is these grand winners, the 6,000 year winners were going through. We probably didn't make it through all those. We probably didn't have some sort of capsule, I'm just speculating, but Antarctica probably has some capsule that's giving you this sort of lowdown of, hey, 12,000

Starting point is 01:04:31 you guys, well, we tried this, and we told everyone that this is science, and we told everyone there's this nuclear weapon, and we told everyone there's this, and here's how we did it. And they're basically just giving us cheat codes because they want us to make it. They want us to survive. And it's no different than what you and I go through in the winter, right? It gets fall, we see it starts to get cold and we start to gather food. So it's that, but it's on a much bigger scale,

Starting point is 01:04:58 because man would need his own winter. This stuff's too easy. You know, we've already mastered this. But a cladoclispic winner, or we have to remember who we are for 6,000 years, that's a task for man, right? So we're constantly being trained to reach these goals that we could never imagine before. And the only way we get there is through these hermetic ladders, these initiations that we go through as time as time as time as time as time as a as time as time as a as time as a as time as a as time as time as time as time as a as a as, as a as, as time as time as time as a time as as, as time as time as as, as as, as time as time as time as time as time as time as a lot to digest right there. Let's go back to Eric Schmidt. That's very interesting. It's very interesting. So, you know, I've joked, obviously, I'm on,

Starting point is 01:05:33 I flunked first grade. I'm functionally illiterate. You know, I make no illusions of that, you know. I'm in this show, I've not been able to come with a word that I'm'm trying to come up with to describe what I'm trying to say. That's who I am. I make no illusions of that. But sometimes like I've had videos I've done, I've done interviews where I'm like, oh, we just went too deep. Like, will we be able to function in society knowing the things that we know right now. Like when I did something on Rockfin with Sabrina Wallace and all the stuff, she's, and I'm like, the whole time I'm watching this video, once it clicked him with me, what she was saying, and we all in the chat knew what got what she was saying, I was like, oh, we've just went to a place we will never be able to come back from, which is fitting right into what you're saying right now is the sorcery.

Starting point is 01:06:26 And but the reason I'm relating to, I'm like, dude, if you know too much can you live a normal life? Mm-hmm. Right? And like, when I'm telling you that I'm like, I'm not trying to save everybody, that's me attempting to connect with people. You know, it's like, I know too much. We all know too much. If you listen to the show long enough, you know too much.

Starting point is 01:06:49 How do you function in society, right? It's like my joke about like Bella Donna, right? Like, you know, from the past, adult film star, who's out there trying to live a life like she doesn't have superpowers, right? live a life like she doesn't have superpowers, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, like, how do you function in society when you've reached a certain level? It's like, you know, it's like it's crazy to me. So when you're like Eric Schmidt is cursed because he knows too much and is he part of this group that's going away erasing all this history so that we have

Starting point is 01:07:25 to learn new history to give him a purpose and give him some kind of task to work on because it's all because where he got to he was given all this knowledge and it's a curse right now. That to me is an interesting discussion. Yeah, it doesn't help to know. I know this myself. I don't help to know things. You all you do is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the history to to to the history to to to the history to to the history to to to to their to to their history to give to give to give their history history their history their history their to to to their to give him him him to give him to give him to give him him to give him him to give him him him him to give him him him him him to give him him him him him their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their history their history their history their history. to their history. to to to to their history. their history. to their interesting discussion. Yeah, it doesn't help to know. I know this myself. It does not help to know things. All you do is make enemies, especially among majoritarians. And the truth movement has just as many majoritarians, to be quite frank as any,

Starting point is 01:07:56 as any other movement does. That's why I went out, well, a long time ago, I kind of got some little bit popular because I exposed to the Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Q Bannon was doing this interesting thing and got Trump in the White House and I was showing everyone how how they utilized naval intelligence like special warfare to insert you know posts into 4chan. And because people were like, but I'm pro-Trump, it's like I don't want to hear that shit. No, no, no. He got there because God brought their their their th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. I. I. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I was, thi. I was, th. I was, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, th. th. th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I was, th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm pro-Trump, it's like I don't want to hear that shit. No, no, he got there because God brought him there is what they would say. And that's when I really started to understand that even if you know what's going on here,

Starting point is 01:08:31 it doesn't matter because of aperture. This is why I wrote this book, Sam. I didn't want to. I didn't like that good, they were the truth, and that, no, that's not what happens at all. I get my books burned because of this. And so it's taught me about human psychology. It's taught me about this idea that because not all of us are seeing the same world, and I really mean that you think you see. You guys, we probably all think that we could stare directly at blue.

Starting point is 01:09:06 And I could prove to you scientifically that it's impossible to look directly at the color blue, that you have to hallucinate it. And it'll be in this book, by the way, but it's just, the more I look at how our equipment works, the more I understand this concept of aperture, this idea that I am treating someone very, very harshly if I'm expecting them to have the same size drum as me. And if I'm going to help them, what I'm going to have to do is simply encourage their drum where it is and encourage them to have more calories to simply maybe try and stretch it a little bit further. That's really all I can do. So I pollinate the people around me, not with facts that's. tha. tha. thua. thiiii. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the same the same the same the same the same their their their their their th. thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I theeeeeeateeateateeeeeeateeeeeeateeeeeeeeeateeeeeeateee is thi. th pollinate the people around me, not with facts that I know, but with pacing. This is what Trump does. He paces, right? You find your target, you match their pace, and then

Starting point is 01:09:54 you invigorate it. You show them, hey, not only do I agree with you, but I agree with you more than you. And they're like, oh, you want to build a wall? Well, God, you really must want to hear our border. He's like, no, I want to build a wall bigger than any wall you've ever seen. And now anyone that ever comes kind of nervous about border security has no choice but to think this guy is even more passionate about border security than me. And so you end up leading people. And we do this naturally. You could call it creepy, but I think you do it naturally. I think you do it when you go to see your grandmother. And you're like, no, it's okay, let's go to the car and we'll go here and we'll go to the store. It's just a natural part of how we regulate with each other. And so really all we can do to help people

Starting point is 01:10:33 is not like force open the hermetic rung that you're on, and all I can do is cheer for you as you go. It's not really better up at the top. It's actually kind of lonely, and people treat you weird. It's really, really comfortable down the bottom. And if you ever find this truth quest too stressful, all you gotta do is let go, just fall. Because you'll end up in the majority again, and you'll try live that I call it a hyena life by the way because you when you start to realize that you're just eating you're kind of swimming in a

Starting point is 01:11:09 a kitty pool and it's full of urine and you're drinking it because you know you just keep coming back to the two-party system you keep just oh what is the New York Times telling me now? It's that's that safety pool and all your friends are going to be there. And you don't really have to try. You don't really have to be responsible for your own decisions because you can just blame the government or blame this group or that group or, you know, the red team or the blue team. So this hermetic ladder is always a singular journey. It's always a lonely journey. And it always leads to a personal relationship with the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, that, thi, thi, that, thi, that that thi, thi, thi, that's, thi, that's, thi, thi, that's, thi, thi, thi, that's, thi, that's, thi, that's, thi, thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, th. that's, th. that's, thi, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thee you start to see scaffolding that that no one else can see and that that's that's reality. I think this is ultimately what it is. You are you are growing a fractal, a crystal of a branch of reality that wasn't there before and it's happening through your

Starting point is 01:11:57 witness. So it's just a different, it's not an objective world. It's so much more profound than that. I think it would be a mistake to let you mention Q& on and not get your explanation for it. What was, if you don't mind briefly, explaining that? Yeah, so Steve Bannon first got his job doing pro-piece for Democrats, actually did a first piece he did was a pro-democrat thing on Hillary Clinton. He was a filmmaker. And then he went to work for the organization called Bright Bart. And at Bright Bart, he started to notice, guys, we don't have to tell the truth. And that's what Bright Bart knew.

Starting point is 01:12:36 Bright Bart knew. And he even said this, we're going to win this war. It's not going to be ourselves and place hooks inside of hearts and drag those hearts out in the street. And so you started seeing a lot of crazy, crazy news. One of them was Pizza Gate. And you started to hear these stories that were so completely over the top that they made everyone look. And that the truth of our reality really was being showcased in the rise of Steve Bannon, because Steve Bannon went from a pro-democrat lobbyist into a media

Starting point is 01:13:09 publisher into the president of Donald Trump's campaign and got him elected to the White House. And when you watch the footsteps that he went through there, he met with Epstein exactly one year to the day, to the morning, before Epstein was rolled out into the story. I'm going to say that. Before the Epstein story was released, those two have a public meeting one year before. Steve Bannon was fired exactly one year and one day after he was made White House Chief of Staff, which would give him all of his pension, all of his retirement, even though Trump was saying, you're dirty rat, Steve, this guy's a dirty rat and he's a sloppy Steve, and he was fired because eight weeks later the very first Hillary Post showed up on 4chan.

Starting point is 01:14:00 Hillary Clinton will be arrested at 1030 a.m. on Tuesday, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you start to, if you watch these footprints, you start to notice, well, wait a minute, then OAN came online, the, uh, forget the name, the moniker of this news network, something American network. Yeah, it's something one. And Q. A.N. And O.A.N. Both came online at the same tah. And Posobiac, which is a pretty popular personality still today, was actually in naval warfare intelligence, and it was his job, I believe, to manage and push the Q narrative. So he was a sensational reporter that no one had ever seen before, popular on the OAN network that never existed before,

Starting point is 01:14:44 and all of a sudden he was placed on the Twitter stage, this is a major figure. And when you watched him interviewing, you saw how nervous, you saw how this is not what this guy does. It's not done this before. He's in all, he's got his graduation pictures and his naval intelligence warfare uniforms. It's all right there. And if you just watch the post, you're just seeing a slow rollout of this miracle boy, this miracle savior underground thing that's happening. And because you have enough media that's focused on it, because you're able to insert enough news, people believe it. So, it doesn't take long to imagine that after Trump was elected to the White House doing the same thing off the bright-barred shoulders, why would we not just utilize Epstein too? Why would we

Starting point is 01:15:28 not just keep these narratives going, keep placing them in the media, and keep watching how much fodder we're able to bring as a result of that? And once you see that, all you got to do is just step back and realize that's always happened. Okay. That that's never not happened. I got a couple questions. So there is something called Operation Trust, which is a game plan that's been rammed forever and ever and ever, which is, you know, kind of let everybody know what's going on to gain their trust,

Starting point is 01:16:00 and then you could kind of push them to a certain narrative in a certain way. So, so, so, so, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. they. they.a, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. the. the. the, the. the. the. the, the.k, the.k, the.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. the.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, so, but the, the, the, the, the base of, I'm having bad with words, but the crux of it, the, the, the whole thing is that there has to be truth in what they're talking about. Right? There has to be a certain level of truth. So when when I hear, when I hear, and this, and this is, and this is is this is just this is just th, and this is just th, and this is just th, and this is just th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is just th is just th is just th is just th is just thi thi the thi thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the the, the, the the th. th. th. th. thus is just thus is just thus is just thus is just the is just thru, thru, true, true, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,truth. So when I hear, and this is just me asking questions, I have my own belief, okay, so, but when we go into like PizzaGate, right, do you believe that, because you brought a blackmail before, that Washington, E.C. in Hollywood have giant blackmailing schemes to control people using pedophilia. Yeah, I don't think that you'd be able to not have something like that because the faint fashion is really at the heart of what controls the country. If you're just saying if you look at, I'm not just mean like the textiles of clothes when you're talking about the magic of fashion is truly at the heart of what drives most political movements. And so tapping into the fashion the fashion the fashion th fashion th fashion that fashion that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th th th th. I th. I you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be thi thi thi the you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be you be be be be be be be be you be be be you be be be be be you be you be be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi the to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able the. I thi thi truly at the heart of what drives most political movements.

Starting point is 01:17:07 And so tapping into the fashion of that, placing a Julian Assange figure, a guy's, no offense, but Julian Assange published a manual that wasn't even secret. This is the top thing WikiLeaks did. They published an Army manual that wasn't even a secret. But when you have all this media saying this is the arbiter of truth, he's here to save us, he's here to save us, then it happens just like what you said. People end up following that, they end up believing that, and the subsidiary belief is really the more important thing. It's never about, do you like Trump or do you believe in voting? Do you think that this is all legit, right?

Starting point is 01:17:45 So all of the figures that we see really are always the fodder that it's really what's happening right after that fodder that really has a more important role. So when you look at what Washington is, you apply for your position as a politician. And the only way another politician will work for you is they just simply look at how much fame clout you have. How much torque can this person pull out of the egregor?

Starting point is 01:18:11 And if they can pull enough, then this is the ally that I have no choice but to align with, because they are giving legitimacy to Washington, D.C. and it's the only way this system would work. So you end up with an over-the-top kind of Trump figure who's coming in to rescue the day, and then there's a secret underground investigation that's trying to stop him because the deep state's going to prevent that. And all that leads you to the belief that all this is real, that all this is legit, and it's real for a kind of appetite, a kind of aperture that is so, so different on the hermetic scale

Starting point is 01:18:45 that they're going to accept something as simple as professional wrestling. So media itself, Hollywood itself, are the government. It's not like they teamed up. No, I got you. The only way you could even start this is to say, you know, I know you get this, but I want you to think about the profanity of this. Hollywood never breaks the fourth wall. News only breaks the fourth wall. Hollywood never breaks the fourth wall. News always breaks the fourth wall. If you think about that, this is all it takes.

Starting point is 01:19:17 This is true. This is fiction. This is true. This is fiction. So as long as whatever the broadcast is, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their long as whatever the broadcast is, they're breaking the fourth wall, people have been trained since the 50s, right, since television was invented to think, if someone breaks the fourth wall, they're telling me the truth. And I think reality shows really showed you this scene breaking, right? That these tricks don't work anymore, that in order to keep attention, we have to always break the fourth wall now. So the same kind of techniques that were used before, they have to change, and the only way they can change is you have to have pedophilia, you've got to have underground submarines, you got to have cannibalism, you've got to have, Hillary, killing, what, 370 people? the Clinton body count. That unless you have those kind of numbers, you have no legitimacy inside government.

Starting point is 01:20:08 I agree with everything you're saying. Again, I think that everyone's waiting for someone to come save them and I don't think it's ever going to happen. The only way you can do it is to save yourself by loading up on things that created like an outside system to the best your abilities. But you know, because in reality, the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, I, thi, I, I, I, I the, I the, I thee, I thee, I thee, I thee, I thi, I thee, I thee, I I thee, I I I I I th, I I I th, I I I th, I I th, I th, I th. I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, thin, thin, thin, the, thin, thean, thin, thin, thean, thean, thin, thean, thean, thin, the an the an the,that created like an outside system to the best your abilities. But, you know, because in reality, dude, we have all the power and we just don't know it. And we just won't, this is why all these siops are being constantly, constantly ran on us, is to distract us from our true power. And like we are more alike than we are different, you know?

Starting point is 01:20:46 And it's like, you know, a poor white person, a poor black people have more in common than, you know, black people to Michael Jordan and white people to Donald Trump. It's just the truth. Your struggles are the same, but you just, you're fighting on your economic level instead looking up. Because we're mammals and we run in herds and we identify with our herd that looks

Starting point is 01:21:11 like us. And that's how we do it. And we're also herds, and we said this before on the show, that when the herd and the pack is moving and some apex predators come and take out one of us, we just keep moving. Yeah. We just keep moving. Okay, but you said we're herds, we're animals, but he was making it seem that AI is a good thing. As in like a phoenix, how it dies and it comes back to life? Is it, would you consider AI a good thing? Is it evil, good, not, I mean, is it the future? Yeah, I consider, it's hard for me to morally weigh on tools. I realize that maybe your listeners just want me to kind of give you one, and so I'm going to say the same thing I vote on a hammer, the same thing I vote on a flame thrower or plasma torch. I think these are all good tools in the right hands. And so I think I thin I the biggest thin thin the biggest thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi thi the the thi. thi. thi the the the the the the thoes are thoes are thoes are thoes are thoes are thoes are the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea thea thea thea we make is not fearing the real enemy in the room with AI, because it's not the algorithm.

Starting point is 01:22:07 It's people. The people that are going to want to censor the AI are the ones that are going to make your life horrible. They're going to destroy your ability to tap into an omniscient resource because they're afraid of what it's going to say. So I tell people, if if if if if if if if if the people the people their their their their their, if you their, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you are, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. the th.I. tho. tho. thr.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. th. th. th. th th to be afraid, I don't understand why you're picking the algorithm. I think you should be afraid of the people that are so afraid because it's always the people that are insisting, someone should do something, someone to shape the children. And that the soon as they say that, we come in and murder fucking children because

Starting point is 01:22:37 we are going to save this lady's child that isn't even in the room. And this is what Al Gore did. When I was a kid, when I used to believe in, I remember watching Al Gore in a debate, I'm kind of older so I don't expect any of you guys to remember this, but it was with George Bush. And this lady said, what are you going to do about TV? And thi's the horrible things are on TV. And I was waiting for Al Gore to be fucking the fucking thua. I to be a fucking. I to to to to to to to to be a fucking. I to thua. I to to to thua. I'm to thua. I'm thua. I'm thua. I'm thua. I'm thua. I'm thua. I'm thus. I'm to to that. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I to th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thin. I don't th th th that that that that that the that the that that that that that that that thi. I th th th to to do anything about TV lady. Don't let your kid watch TV. I have things to do. And that's not what he said. He said, come here. Let me hold you. I'm going to save you from the bad TV lady. I'm going to save you and all the other ladies from the bad TV.

Starting point is 01:23:15 Because the bad TV needs to be stopped because that's what's scaring you. And then I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood I understood for a decade. And then I went on with my life and said, what is this really all evil? And I've been crawling out of that hole ever since. And I believe that it is not evil. But I really think that the listeners who are like, how dare he say that? I think evil is serving you right now. And I think you should believe it's evil. Because I personally think that the more evil that you find this place to be, the less majoritarian you will be, the more ashamed you will be when you drink this urine that we call water, and that you will eventually say I've had enough and I'm pulling my witness away and I'm giving

Starting point is 01:23:57 it into something else. And so then I don't care if you like me or not, because I pollinateded they, they, th. you're not because I pollinated you for the better and the world ended up as a better place because there's one less hyena drinking this urine right pretending that their vagina is is something that it isn't by the way it's a hyena trade I'm not necessarily weird. Yeah yeah they dragged their vagina on the ground yeah I guess I just said it but anyway they pretend like they have. I know I don't know I'm but yeah they have weird. We're those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those those are weird those are weird those are weird those are weird those are weird those are weird those those are weird those are weird those are weird those are weird those those are weird those those those are weird those those those are. those are. those are. those are. those are. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. those. they are. they are. they are. they are. they are. they are. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. they yeah, they drag their vagina on the ground. Yeah, I'm sorry, I guess I just said it. But anyway, they pretend like they have... Yeah, how I know, I don't know, but yeah, they have weird root. Johnny, stop. I wrote a book about it. This is how I know Johnny. So this is in my new book about after. Johnny. Grow off. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Y'u. You lived. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, I th, I th, I th, I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. I th. I th. I th. I throw. I throw. I wrote. I wrote. I wrote. I wrote. I wrote. I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, I the the animals? I mean I am I am open-minded to all this obviously I I you know there's a lot going on we you know we have a

Starting point is 01:24:51 presentation of what we're told to believe and then there's people going well you know this is this is we've seen we've seen beliefs that don't fit this from a long time ago and that that's why, even excuse me, even as I am, you know, Christian, I am open-minded to that what we're being told might not be the truth, and that we live in an inverted world, right? I mean, like, this is gonna get, this gonna,

Starting point is 01:25:24 people are gonna go nuts, but when that woman the other day on Tim Fall Live was like, what if the Freemasons aren't that bad? Yeah. And you know you go, okay if what I've been told forever is it been inverted, that fits into that. Yeah, you have to be willing to question every, you know, every assumption. Yeah, and there are people. Did you know? I'm sorry. I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. that th. that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Yeah, you have to be willing to question every you know every assumption Yeah, and there are people I'm sorry don't go on I get so excited. Did you know that right before COVID started That the Mercy and the comfort were two masonic ships that were parked between LA and New York and that you had Joaquin and Boaz the exact same symbolism of the two towers of 9-11 that one was in LA and one was in New York.

Starting point is 01:26:09 This is the day the first lockdown began. And so I implore and encourage anyone who wants to blame the Freemasons, keep blaming them. And I'm encouraging the other ones, maybe like the one that was talking to you, if you're thinking these other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other that if you're thinking these other things, I have some ideas to share with you. Because when I look at this, I see a spiral staircase. And when I climb that spiral staircase, I feel better, not worse. I am lonelier. Do you not have the same kind of friend, you know, who will to pull from? I don't get to sell as many books. If I to the books the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book the book. If I the book. If I the book. If I the book. If I the book. the book. their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I, their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I see. I see, I see, I see, I see, I see. I see. I see. I see. I see. I see. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I see, th. I see, th. th. I see, th. I see, th. I see, th. I see, th. I see, books. If I would have sold a book telling you Q&N was real, I'd be living large right now. But I didn't. I tried to tell you who and why I think Q&N is what it is, and that's a very unpopular opinion. And I've learned something that the truths that

Starting point is 01:27:05 the lowest among us believe would have to be easy truths, which means they're actually not true, they're stories that are easy to swallow. Yes. You know, so to me, it's a hermetic ladder and I only lose people the more, theyme. to the species difference where You know you kind of step out of your species and you become this different person because you don't you don't try? You don't fit into the majority model anymore, you know, you're you're pulling all of your juice from a different stream now. You don't you don't drink piss you drink fresh mountain water Yeah, no one's gonna be around when you do that because when when when is a the the the the the the the th is th is th is th is th is a th is a th is a th is a th is a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi's thi's th. th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're th. You're the the the the the the the the the the the th. You're th. You're th. You're the th. You're the the th. You're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. I I's t. I's try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I'm try. I's try. I'm try. try. I'm try. I'm try.to be around when you do that. Because when is a... By the way, this is Xavier, Johnny's the quiet one that is just... Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I didn't want to be...

Starting point is 01:27:50 I can't show who's flashing up on the screen is why, so it's good. You're good. Sometimes I say myself. When do you, when is the... Shitty English, Mumble Rapper is Xavier. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, is, what, what, is, what? the, what is, what is, what? the, what is, what is, what is, what is, what? the, is, the, is? the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is? is? Oh, is? Oh, is? Oh, is. the, is? the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the the the the, the the, the, the, the, the, the,the to the viewers. So yeah, shitty English, mumble rapper, his Xavier, and the other guy's Johnny. But question, so when, like you said, we're a different species, in animal terms, when does it consider a different species when they evolve? Majoritarian rule, when enough, when enough people decide this is something different. And usually they're, you know, they'll give you a good reason for it. They'll say, when, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is... the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.... the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, their, the, the, the, the, the, this is something different and usually they're you know they'll give you a good reason for it They'll say well clearly the the taxonomy of this species

Starting point is 01:28:30 But to me I I think language is more our property and and if we just think about just how different? Someone is who sees through the lives of Washington versus someone who doesn't I think the only so another word I could use forward is emotional pedophilia. It's like what does that mean???????? th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the, the, thi thi theo- theo- theo- their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. theateateateateuro-uu. teuro-u. tex. taxeo-m-meo-méx. their their their their their their their the only, so another word I could use forward is emotional pedophilia. It's like what does that mean? It's kind of weird, but if you think about it, if you're treating someone as if they're 40 years old, but actually they're seven, then you're committing this same kind of thing. It's inner species. You're, you're pretending that someone has the same species skill that you do and they don't. And so that's not a relationship that you should be in. And so when we are arguing with people that are on the majoritarian level of this, when

Starting point is 01:29:10 they're believing the two-party system, we're not actually helping them. We're actually committing this sort of fraud, it's kind of like the prime directive in Star Trek where you're going into a foreign planet and you're interacting with the species and you don't realize that even the way that you see things now is tainting them and it may not be necessarily you know constructive for their growth. So I just have a much more laissez-faire approach to it because it feels like the garden has this natural tendency to prune itself to almost poison itself to make its fruit grow or change or adapt or do whatever's needed to carry on the next winter.

Starting point is 01:29:48 It's very interesting. This has been a great conversation. It's very crazy, man. And I totally understand everything you're saying. Real quick, if you go to Sam Tripoli.com, check out the dates for my special. We'll get where we have a little discussion on this episode. to Sam Triply.com, check out the dates for my special. We'll get where we have a little discussion on this episode. I loved it. It was great. One more time. One more time. Tell them where they can find you.

Starting point is 01:30:13 Sorry about that. Yeah, just Google, James True. You'll find me. I've got a YouTube channel where I do a little bit about this. I write a pretty active blog on my patron. About every day I'm writing something. Usually that's based on my work. Right now this book's about to come out any day, so if you're interested in this topic, it's set in Africa. It has a lot to do with albinism, which is something we haven't talked about, but the albino doesn't have the ability to filter me back on, I'd love to talk about it because it is mind-blowing. But basically this aperture thing works through melanin and dopamine really quick, that basically if your eyes are comfortable, it's going to pour dopamine into your

Starting point is 01:30:52 Plato's cave and you're going to render things more. But if you get scared, then melanin's going to be secreted and melanin absorbs information, which is why the albin. they is binism is usually has schizophrenia and is usually considered a shaman Because they have no ability to throttle reality to slow it down So they're seeing all the demons as I like to say there's a lot more to this is just me trying to get it in as quick as No, I love it. I'm in no hurry. So, we've talked about I think schizoph- I think I think I thau schiz- I thau schiz- I thia I thia schist I thi I thi I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi. I thi thi thi thrott thrott throttle throttle throttle throttle throttle throttle throttle throttle their their their their their their their their their their their thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thrott thrott thrott thrott thrown thrown thrown thrown throwne thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown thrown throttle throwne thr stuff that is spiritual and we've demonized them and discarded them because they know too much. Yeah, and it's because of their diaphragm. No, go ahead. No, I was going to say like, it's like a camera. Like, I mean, it's more open.

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Starting point is 01:32:39 nothing happens. And so now somebody is forced to look at the same thing again, again, again, and again. And it seems like it's switching between left and right, left and right. You can see it in their eyes because they cannot stay focused on the same thing because it's so terrifying. This is why they end up with a lot more cardiac issues. There's just a lot more, there's so much harder on their heart is just constantly strapped to the front of this chair, right? It's just like dipped in pure reality. They're at the front of the keel, screaming at light speed, and there's nothing they can do to turn it off. So all spiritual experiences, even from Rasputin, personally, I am a Christian by the way, and I believe that the concept of crucifixion is this exact same thing that if you can transmogrify this sort of event,

Starting point is 01:33:26 you're ripping open your aperture in a controlled environment through transmogrification and you unite with God because God is here, God is here. We do not see God because we secrete melanin, we secrete plasma lies into our field to stop that because we would die in his presence. This is why radiation, gamma rays, microwaves, all these things are just more God, but we cannot see them without our eyes melting. But as we get better, right, as we use technology, right? We can see things through radio telescoes, we can see things through filters.

Starting point is 01:34:03 We're able to look directly into the sun. And that as we get better at this, we are learning to see, perceive God and AI is such an important part of this of this experience. So there's supposedly this glass, I got to find it, but it was like made on accident. And if you put them in glasses, you can see things that you would normally, you're like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that you would normally, like, you're like, it's almost like they live. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Nice, a blue glass. I've seen this guy on like filters light or something. Yeah, it's just allows you to see something totally different.

Starting point is 01:34:35 There's a lot to the blue thing, yeah, so that makes sense. There's so much to this science this this this this this science this science this science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science the science their the science their their their their their their their their their their their th. their their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the blue. the the the the blue. the blue. the. the blue. the. the blue. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the blue. the blue. the it's not really fiction. We have melanocytes in our ears, guys, it's like your inner ear where light doesn't shine. You have pigments that are there to protect you from the sun, and that's not what they're doing. They're there to absorb sounds that frankly terrify you too much. Amigdala hears you hearing something that place with this black melanin and it absorbs that electrical information and you do not perceive it anymore. So you're able to continue on. Anytime you see anyone in shock, I think you're just watching their aperture kind of trip to these different levels as they try and amalgamate their world and come back to a place that they can hallucinate. I really mean that hallucinate, that we basically are hallucinating our world based on all the feedback we get because when we

Starting point is 01:35:27 hallucinate it we see it better. We see it better than we would if we didn't. Does this suggest a distinction between the races and how they incorporate spirituality into their lives? So yeah, when you start to look at most of my book asks a deep dive into Africa and when you look at the Swahili language it's fascinating how we actually use the words to describe an albino to describe someone that has albinism and that their lack of melanin is a lack of them having self that the only way that you could survive as a self in this world according to the Swahili way, which isn't really a way, I'm just kind of trying to give this to you quickly, is to hide yourself from the sun.

Starting point is 01:36:11 And so the more melanin you see in the skin, I think is more of a symbol almost of how much deeper into the shamanic journey you've gone. Well, fascinating. If you think about like, if you think about some of the shittiest sshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshthink about like some of the shittiest parts of America, right, in the hood, you're looking at the gang warfare, I would like for you to imagine that the gang warfare is really at the crux of spiritual growth right now. The spiritual consciousness would be at the forefront of where is the most challenge, where is the most, what are you going to do to survive and is it worth it to survive and what is the sanctity of your life and all these things are played out in a violence inside the shaman's world? So when I look at crystal meth, when I look at gang warfare, when I look at voodoo, when I look at all the

Starting point is 01:36:59 things where I see war in fact, I'm looking at shamanic experiences. And these shamanic experiences are simply happening by people that have a wider diaphragm, but they've been trying to live in a world that insists they don't. Because everyone else wants you to have a tiny diaphragm, right? They want you to believe in a two-party system. And here you are trying to fit in to the normalcy of it all, and you end up having to freejack or hijack an event to sequester your thirst, to have an event that is dilating enough to make you feel whole, so you end up doing things like drugs or robbing a bank or going to war, you have these shamanic experiences because you die without them. You die because you atropy because your consciousness drum is just bigger than

Starting point is 01:37:49 everyone else around you. Again I hope you can see how this really is just describing the conspiracy theorist, right? It's just a much tamer version, it's a much or civilized version of that same journey that's happening right now. All of this is consciousness. All of it is. And to me, all I see is growth, which makes me feel a little bit more positive about, you know, about what's happening and where we're going. When you say it's the conspiracy theorist, are you saying that what they're seeing is wrong? No. I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying that the fact that it feels like you're a conspiracy theorist is the electrical charge of the majoritarian kicking you out.

Starting point is 01:38:29 That you feel shame, you're like, oh God, that person just called me conspiracy theorist. And I know many of you're like, I don't feel shame, I'm proud of it. That's great, but I'm telling you, a lot of people did. And when they first felt that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they. th, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. thi. their, they. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, they. their, their, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, too. I's, te. I's. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. I'ma. te. tea. te. their. then the moment they're leaving the herd, they actually, the herd is telling them, look, if you go, I'm going to call you a bad name. And that most of us, that's most of the population I should say, that's enough for them to stay. They're just like, oh, well, I'll stay. Hey, I don't want you to the service. People got the vaccine for that because of that. People literally got the vaccine to not be called the neighbors.

Starting point is 01:39:07 Exactly, which is why, which is why I'm saying, and it's weird because it's telling me your name's Johnny. I'm so confused. But it's weird because that that whole thing is actually encouraging. Who is that saving the people that? the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, thi, their, their, thi, to not, to not, to not, to not, to not, to not, to not, to not, to not, which is not, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is actually, which, which is actually, which, which is actually, which is actually, which is actually, which is actually, which is actually, which is actually, which, which, which, which is actually, which, which, which, which, which, which, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is their, is their, is their, is their, which is their. their. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the it. It's actually helping them. It's showing them that you used a sermon in a gauntlet. And if you look through every single thing that happens in history, because guys, I think, World War II was actually just, hey, let's gather a bunch of people that would agree to come kill each other, let's put them in a field, let's let them kill each other, because And I can even show you examples of how these little units all of a sudden were in charge of all the radio operations at Normandy and you're like, what? So even if we are looking at ourselves as a herd, we can start to understand that it would be natural for us to employ some kind of pie piper to bring the more violent ones down to the river and drown them. Because that's how we would raise a society. That's why Yankee Doodle Dandy was played by the British and the Americans in the Revolutionary War and no one fucking noticed. Like no one noticed. So you're looking at a really kind of dumb blockish consciousness that's coming online.

Starting point is 01:40:15 I mean this, you know, sympathetically. But the, the, I think we probably were resurrected through some sort of ancient technology and that that technology had built in some aid, some helper aids through deities in the past that have led us and brought us to the fastest evolution possible simply so we can reach that same state and excel it from before. And it's hard for me to imagine all that happening because there's some evil dark force, you know, kind of in charge of everything. So just personally, just me personally, my cosmology has changed since writing blueprints of mind control because I just don't see how that's possible up at the top. Say that again, you don't think that the people at the top are working for dark forces. Right, because I think the definition of evil really

Starting point is 01:41:05 does come down to being decrepit and it just find it hard to believe that something so decrepit could achieve such optimal righteousness. It just seems like those two words would be the opposite. That the moment the dark lord was to almost get in charge they would eat their own foot off because that would satisfy the definition of being evil. To whereas if someone is righteous or good they're the the the th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I is thi. I is thi. I is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi because that would satisfy the definition of being evil. To whereas if someone is righteous or good, they're simply making decisions for their farm. And this is George Washington. Kono Takarius was his real name. That name meant Village Burner.

Starting point is 01:41:34 And the Palatine said that to use the evilest mother in the world. He called seven of our chiefs to a river. We went inside the tent and he murdered us all. That guy's evil. That's super interesting. And you would say that's evil. Yeah. You would say that. Right. But what did it take at the time to, right? What did it take at the time for Konokari is to say we want to civilize the land? He had to create a righteous decision that is morally not right, but is right. This is a weird word. We can't get into it now, but it's yeah. So to me, it's even harder to even understand what is good and evil because even those words don't mean the same thing that they used to, you know. Good and evil used to not mean what they mean now. So it's even hard to understand what we're talking about. It's interesting, dude. It is interesting at the at the highest levels like do they go

Starting point is 01:42:26 I am committing evil or are they just following their spiritual beliefs? Yeah I think they have a different view of it right? Yeah what would you say like a different system of morality right yeah yeah exactly perfect way to say it's a garden I think they look at us as their garden. And if you're looking outside your back door at Manhattan and you're going to look and okay that girl's wearing a thong that's cool or that's not cool and that you're going to prune your garden just like any rich man would right. He's going to say I think we have too many bees. the garden. the gardener is going to say their their that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that girl is that girl is that girl is that girl is that girl is that girl is that girl is that girl is going that girl is going that girl is going that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that th. th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thrown thrown tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thro thooooooooooooooo tho th it this way. And over time you'd find that the gardener is just simply filling his garden. You know, before Freemason restarted, and I do not mean to be the person that's pushing for Freemasonry, because this will not get you to read my stuff. But a long time ago before a Freemason restarted, the fact is a bunch of us were wanting around the woods and we would cut our kids' genitals off, and their...... And their, and we, and we, and we, and we, and we're, and we're, and we're, and their, and th, and th, and th, and their, and th, and th, and th, and their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, before, before, before, before, thi, thi, before, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thee, thee, thee, thee, throwneean, thrownean, their, thrownean, their, throwneean, thrownean, throwne, ththem on a stick and run them around, saying we're the most holy because we cut our kids' genitals off.

Starting point is 01:43:26 And that it took a Freemason with enough free time, enough effort, enough budget to say, you know what, I need to fucking cull some of these people in the black forest are just a little bit too crazy. And that would be an unrighteous and moral decision, and it would be good. It would be good because now his daughter can like go outside in the morning and not be raped. That's a horrible thing to do. I'm telling you that he's committing capital punishment and that all of us would say that's what a Freemason Evil person would do, but it's also what you would do if you were sovereign and you just wanted your daughter to be able to go outside in the morning. So our concept of morality is sadly, sadly always stitched to our concept of survival. And I've noticed that whenever I'm making my moral decisions based purely on my survival

Starting point is 01:44:10 because there's no way to separate these two, I end up noticing that I'm not actually moral, I'm creating something more akin to sanctity. It's more akin to what do I think is important in life and what do I want to proliferate? And so it would be the Freemason would be the first person that that that that thuuuuuuuuu, that that that that thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the thi, thi, I'm the thi, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I the, I th, I th, I I I th, I I th, I I I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, the thin, their, togu, their, toge, te, te, te, te, their, theirthe Freemason would be the first person that had the budget, the resources, the castle even, the home life to even go out and crusade, to even go out and hunt the forest and say we can make this place better. And I get that that's wrong, or I get that we say that's wrong, but when I watch what happens when no one acts righteously like that, I think it only gets worse. So it's kind of a tricky debate, you know?

Starting point is 01:44:50 It is a very tricky debate. It is a very tricky, tricky debate. And we get very much stuck in good guy, bad guy, and don't see the gray of everything. You know, it's super, it's super, it's a the the gray of everything. Yeah. You know it's super it's super duper interesting you know and it's it's a it's a deep conversation I look forward to reading some of your books. Thank you guys so much. Hey real quick what we're doing on this episode is we're putting the interview I did with a course I can't find it right now. Right here where is it? Come on. Where I did with it says, hold on one second, man, I'm gonna fight everybody right now. I just feel like it.

Starting point is 01:45:32 I'm gonna put this, we're gonna discuss episode. Then I'm gonna play an episode that I did with a guy named Ira Ellis, who was nice enough to donate to the Chaos Twins. So I did a nice interview him, interview with him, and I want to put the end of this episode because I think you guys will enjoy. He goes very deep into drug addiction and death, and I think you guys will like it. And of course, we break down the episode.

Starting point is 01:45:59 So enjoy this breakdown. All right guys, what do you guys think? What do you think? We went deep. Dude, you ask some great questions. Every time I'm like, wow, he really asked a great question. Chase my mind on AI, I'll be honest. I thought it was very evil and I'm very like, oh. It's like a gun. Yeah. That's what he's basically saying. Yeah. It's a gun. Gun can be a deterrent to crime, a paperweight, or it could be used to murder somebody, right? I mean, don't kill people, I kill people. Yeah, Johnny, you should, by the way, new t-shirt. From J-Dog. I don't think you could wear that. From J-Dark.

Starting point is 01:46:36 Guns don't kill people, I kill people. Quote J-D-Dog. Oh, no, you're trying to get me a trouble. Imagine wearing that to school. I'm going to make a picture of that, that demon face in the smoke, turn that into t-shirt. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. They'll explain their way out of that by saying, our minds are trained to recognize faces everywhere. Because that one, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the the the the the the their. the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to recognize faces everywhere. Because that's why you look at clouds and you see a face in the clouds or whatever. But that one, I mean, that's, it is that. It is that drawing of that demon or whatever that it is, it is, it is that.

Starting point is 01:47:10 Right there you see the face. You see the face. You see the face. Yeah, right. Yeah, there. that face on Mars, too. It's the same thing. It looks very similar to that face on Mars. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:27 I just wanted to, you know, he's talking about lost history a little. And I heard, I was watching some histories of the Coliseum, the Roman Coliseum, the other day. Yeah. was this center of civilization for a long time and then people moved out of Rome. There were so few people in Rome that they couldn't have the games anymore you know and that and and the people like just like America where everyone's moving all these cities and the people that came after they didn't know what the Colosseum was for like there were the theories that it was to it was built in honor of a sun god and like there are drawings people thr-it the the th.. the the the the the th. th. their. their. their. their. their. their their their was. their was. their was. their was. their was. their was their was. their was. their was. their was their was. their was. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. they were. their was. their was. their was. their was. their was. their. their........ their........ So. So. So. So. So. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their was. their their. their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the guess what used to be the Colosseum like there's drawings of like a giant sun god in the middle and they thought they they that's how far that's how

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Starting point is 01:48:48 Challenging thoughts, you know, he's an interesting guy too because it's like yeah Yeah, there's other you know, it's like yeah, we are we are all picking blue god red god It's just like that call that guy had the call the warfare you know in his mind and blue team and a red team. Yeah, we? Yeah, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their are are are, their are, their are, their are, their are, their are, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. thean, thean, th. th. th. th like that call that guy had the call the warfare you know in his mind and blue team and a red team Yeah, what about the timing of that? Yeah, right before we have this? Yeah It's super deep pieces are kind of coming together just feels like don't you feel like that sometimes like well what he gets to is that I mean I love what he said about schizophrenics, like, that? I mean,. They see too much, you know, and that's why you see a lot of them on drugs, like, like, you know, I have 9,000 podcasts. Why? Because if I, if I stopped moving, the demons come dancing.

Starting point is 01:49:36 So like, let's say you weren't a podcast person, but you have all these visions and all that, you're just loading yourself with drugs to not try to numb the numb what you're intaking. And that's why the guys that come back from that you know they're medicated of course but they also seem like they've been the war you know they've like this like they have PTSD they've had a thousand yards there you saw that with hinkley you know you know he's like I'm. I mean like if you were used the the the the the the the th for th for the th. that that that the that the the th. that that that that the that that that the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the thi. the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that's that that and he's got that look to him like he's been in seeing combat you know I mean well I mean if you were used for a siop and then you lost like what three decades of your life yeah you have to be like dude I agreed to do this but like 30 years

Starting point is 01:50:17 now now he's playing songs at coffee beans like what are we doing here? Johnny you go to sleep with like podcasts and stuff at night sometimes, right? Not really. Not anymore. No, no, I don't. No, no, no. So the reason I do that is because I hear things, because I hear things, I hear things. the reasons, when I like to go to sleep, I hear voices. I like, like, throwns, I'm, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th., like when I was a kid, I gotta do homework. Oh, I forgot to do this.

Starting point is 01:50:45 It's like stupid thoughts. I wonder if that's how Skitsil sees it all day every day. But other voices or your voice? It's my own voice. It's my own voice. Yeah, it's my own they're hearing like I think they hear other people talking to them it's not there you know there's a difference between a monologue and hearing just having shit beamed into your brain that is some crazy shit about

Starting point is 01:51:15 albinos too yeah that is yeah I would like to I want to read that because I I don't quite understand the guy is the deeper of the de. the deepest the de. the deepest the de. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is is th is th is th is thi is the the thi. I thi. I that's is is is is like is like is like is like is like is like is like is like is like is the the they. is like is like is like is like is they. is like is like is like is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is. th. the th. th. I is. I is. I. I. I. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. things. I. I. I. I. I the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I would like to I want to read that because I don't quite understand the That guy is the deeper of the deepest right the can see like he even for conspiracy is like come on dude come on But he's totally right about everything like if you break down Trump you break down Biden it's all fucking fun in games and this like how deep does a theory go and you guys you you know you give me shit Johnny I said cute could be them tel tel the their their their their their their their their. their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I'm. their. their. their. their. I. their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. the the the the the the the the the the the t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the Q could be them telling us everything because they're going to reset and here comes COVID they shut everything down and we're in this giant demoralization campaign right now. It was demoralizing on it that's for sure all those times that Hillary was supposed to be arrested and never was. Yep demoralization campaign. All right guys so I thought it was a great episode. I thought it was a deep episode. I want you guys you guys to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tr tr true. true. true. true. true. true. true. co. coe. coe. coe. coe. coe. coe. co. the the thought it was great episode. I thought it was a deep episode

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Starting point is 01:55:52 You're just playing defense, you're not even on attacking. Well, I'm attacking, but I'm attacking him. Probably the worst. 51 year old guy, I'm 21 with fucking hamhawk legs, and it's 51 year oldest and let me tap them out really easy. But you know what they get me on all the time now, these guys, these blue belts, leg locks, and I've never haven't learned leg locks in class yet. With those heavy legs? Yeah, with my heavy legs. Well, because dude, like, you go for my leg. I'm to go for my leg. I'm thagagagag. I'm thag. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, they, I, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they they, they they they they they they they they they they they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they get, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, they're, they're, they get, they get get they get don't want to get jacked. You know I don't want to be like, oh, then I got tool enough going on.

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Starting point is 01:57:10 Hi, everybody, and welcome to a very special episode here on Tim Fall Hat. Thank you guys for listening. As you guys know, the Chaos Twins has been a giant success and it wasn't possible without you, the listeners of Timpholhat supporting it. And this gentleman right here is a giant, one of the levels you could help donate to was, if you donated a certain amount, you'd be able to be interviewed. And here we are, and I'm very excited about this. He made a donation was a $1,500 donation and I'm very honored to be able to finally make this happen. You know we were like ships in the night just passing but here we are very excited. Please vote this show. Ira Ellis how are you Iris? I'm doing good. How are you Sam? Well dude I'm very very very thankful for you and your kindness to donate to the program and I'm very happy to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be here to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be here. to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. thean. thean. thi. thean. thi. thi. the the the thi. thankful for you and your kindness to donate to the program,

Starting point is 01:58:07 and I'm very happy to be here with you right now. So Iris, for those who may not be familiar with you, Gain, tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you if they want to follow up. Sure. My name's Ira. My name's Keith. I grew born and raised in southwest Tennessee. I'm assuming you can hear that in my voice. I don't hear it. For sure. Yeah, other people say they can hear it. I said it's totally my voice is about as dull as it can get to me. But uh, I was born and I'm about your age. 48. I'll be 49 here in a few months.

Starting point is 01:58:45 Grew up, went to school, not the smartest kid, but I just kind of hung in there, went to college, tried to get out of hard work, eventually wound up pre-med somehow, eventually wound up med school somehow, eventually graduated somehow. And I've been medical doctor since 02, trained formally in family medicine, primary care. Over the years, I have put additional study into currently addiction. I'm board certified in addiction through a less than traditional pattern, evolving pathway. I'm not, I didn't do a Dr. Drew thing. It wasn't like a full-blown residency training. I've also done some additional stuff with hospice, with obesity

Starting point is 01:59:33 and weight loss. I don't think there's another one or two in there, but I've always just been really, really interested in everything. And, uh, that's about it. That's pretty good, dude. If that's about it, that's a pretty good list, pro. And, you know, I feel like you have a lot of knowledge in a lot of stuff that we're going through right now in this country. So I'm very excited to talk to you about it. You know, I don't know how Tennessee is doing in terms of the opiate addiction and all that stuff. You know, I've struggled with it. I've seen my friends struggle with it. I've seen my friends lose their battles to it. It is a really crippling situation, debilitating disease. And part of me thinks it's part of a bigger war on America. I know that there's a lot of addiction all over the world. I'm not singling out.

Starting point is 02:00:30 Like, I'm not saying it's not, it's exclusive to America. But, you know, it just seems like this is part of this giant, you know, I believe Bolshevik war that we're going through where they're just trying to destroy us from the inside by flooding us with drugs and alcohol. And so my whole thing is like, what are you seeing now in the world of addiction? What are your thoughts? Because, you know, there's always been addiction, but I just think it's gotten crazier than ever. Well, I think, again, you and I would both remember a time when you could literally get away with murder and no one would ever know, back in the days before, cell phones and when you had,

Starting point is 02:01:11 like I always think, how did I used to meet up with folks in high school when you didn't have cell phones? You say, we're going to meet the park at eight if you're not there, we'll be the the park at eight if you're not there, we'll be somewhere, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll the somewhere, we'll the somewhere, we'll there, we'll the their, we'll their, we'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll there, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be somewhere, we'll be some somewhere, we'll be some somewhere, we'll be some somewhere, we'll be some somewhere, we'll be some some somewhere, we'll be some some some some somewhere, we'll be some some some some some some somewhere, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll be, we'll be some some some some somewhere, we'll, we'll the, is advanced and knowledge, just the general knowledge of everything in the world, you know, becomes almost real time. We're now faced with the idea that these, that people die on a daily basis from opioid narcotic overdose. And so, you know, the federal government back about six, seven years ago started putting the clamps down on how much of this stuff could legally be prescribed for chronic pain. And then what we have seen is a shift from the youth of legally obtained opioids as a cause of death to illegally obtained opioids as a cause of death in fentanyl, which means that you're correct. People are addicted. People seek out pleasure, and then, thi, and then, people, and the they, and the the the the their their their their their they, and their they, and so, and so, and so, and they, and so, and so, and so, and their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, and their, and th th th th th th th th th th th the stuff, and the stuff, and so th, and so th, and so th, and so th, in fentanyl, which means that you're correct.

Starting point is 02:02:05 People are addicted, people seek out pleasure, and then people unhealthily seek out a greater degree and ultimately leads to death. As far as, you know, a bigger picture, conspiracy type thing, I would think the ultimate root, of course, is gonna be money and control. And interestingly, even to this day, to this day, to to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to to to to to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, people, to be, to be, people, toe, the, the, people, the, people, the other, the other, the other, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theyluce, the theyli., the other, the other, the other, theyli., the other, the other, the same, the other, the ultimate root of course is going to be money and control. And interestingly, even to this day, it is easier for a patient to get a prescription for a narcotic other than suboxone or methadone than it is for either of those two medicines, simply because there's more money to be made on all levels from the dispenser to the producer. So in the addiction world, the biggest, one of the biggest barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers barriers to to to to to to to to to to to be made on all levels from the dispenser to the producer.

Starting point is 02:02:45 So in the addiction world, the biggest, one of the biggest barriers to, it's like the use of suboxone is that pharmacies are resistant to dispensing it because they make no profit. They don't openly say that. So crazy. Yeah. But interestingly enough, one of the biggest, biggest shifts in the world of addiction in the last few years is this.

Starting point is 02:03:12 Now what was your, did you have a drug choice or did you just, whatever it was? It started out as alcohol, which I never had a really good relationship with. I never was a good alcoholic and And then I discovered cocaine, and that was my jam for a while. And then I always make this joke in recovery meetings, but and then crystal meth cured me of my cocaine problem. So yeah, so speed was the next thing. And I was a functional, I was a functional, you know, drug addict.

Starting point is 02:03:48 Now, did you use those specifically to function better, to have better sex, to enjoy life better, or? Do you use to say? You know, I'm going to be honest with you, dude, my, my sex addiction and my drug addiction went hand in hand. They were just like peanut butter and jelly. Yeah. So in the addiction world, you know, there's no prescription medicine for meth or cocaine misuse. And actually, if you talk to DEA folks, they'll tell you that the most difficult, some of the most difficult folks to actually pinpoint are going to be cocaine addicts because cocaine makes you ridiculously productive if used appropriately and that and

Starting point is 02:04:34 segue to the use of Adderall and stimulate therapies in our current society, which is essentially the new inappropriate prescription problem. If you live within about a two square mile diameter of a college in this country, you're probably taken out or all, whether you're the janitor or the dean of the school. However, back to the craziest things that I've been taught in the last few years, last few months actually, is the addiction out, the addiction as a disease model. You know, one of the goods and bads about addiction is that when you were in your heyday, they would have said just snap out of it, make better choices.

Starting point is 02:05:24 Don't, don't do drugs, you know. And now, specifically for narcotic or opioids, whichever term you want to use, they say that after 30 days of continuous exposure at any real level, whether it's, you take one hydro a day for a bad back or whether your mainline and fentanyl in the back alley. After 30 days, your brain is no longer a non-addict brain. And it will never go back and be a non-addict brain. And there's about four or five very specific problematic issues that occur with that, none the least of which is, is you crave a narcotic just to exist. If you ever need a narcotic for pain control, good look ever get into a dose that will help with your pain.

Starting point is 02:06:19 You will have spontaneous anxiety and depression that will arise because of altered pathways in your brain. So if you didn't have anxiety and depression on the front end, you'll have it on the back end. And your body will re-process the way pain is detected. So, if you try to describe to me what it would feel like, like if you smashed one of your nuts or something, you know, you'd say, yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird. It's a, you know, you, you, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's th, it's th, it's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th, th, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they they the thi thi thi thi thi. thry to describe to me what it would feel like, like if you smashed one of your nuts or something, you know, you'd say, yeah, it's weird, it goes up into my side, I feel a little nauseous, but an addict, someone who's been exposed to narcotics for more than 30 days, they may not process that the same because their brain,

Starting point is 02:07:00 their bodies are pretty unique and that they will try to to to to to to to to to to to to to their brain, our bodies are pretty unique and that they will try to survive poisoning. So after so many days of exposure to something that alters the natural pathway, our bodies produce new pathways. And so the way that our brain tells us we're in pain may not even really be anything that you can describe to other people that make sense anymore. So an addict who has pain may not be able to communicate that pain adequately in a believable manner. So we can that's what happens.

Starting point is 02:07:32 They don't get the pain control they need and they wind up relapsing because they, you know, that that pain trigger is not satisfied by a medical professional, so they go seeking, and then they get into the whole addiction thing again. As a whole, the, so now you have this addiction as a disease, you never cured of it until you die. And our goal is, it's kind of like going to church, I know you've been talking a lot about Christianity lately. So I grew up as a, uh, as a, uh, as a, as a, uh, it is a, as a, uh, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as is a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as's kind of like going to church. I know you've been talking a lot about Christianity lately. So I grew up as a Southern Baptist, or didn't grow up, but I'm Southern Baptist. And so when you go to church, they say your goal is to be as Christ, but you'll never be Christ.

Starting point is 02:08:21 So when people come in for addiction, I say your goal is to be a non-medication-assisted, you know, recovery person. You don't need medicine, right? That's your goal, but very few people can be there. So long, so now the issue is, is these folks will have to be maintained on either methadone or Suboxone for the rest of their lives. Yeah, or they'll eventually relapse. And the problem with that is it's a single relapse

Starting point is 02:08:49 with the exposure to fentanyl, which could be fatal. So you're, you're, you're, yeah. That's so brutal. But that's the, there's upside and downside to the discussion of addiction as a disease. The upside is is, you don th th th th the th is th th th th th th the th th th is the th the th is the th, th, th, th, is, th, is, is, the the the thi thi the the the, the tho, is, is, the is, the the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is th is, is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th, th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their, their, their, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the, the the the, the, their, their, their, addiction as a disease. The upside is you don't just look at everybody with addiction as a piece of shit and hope they just crawl off somewhere and die so that you don't have to deal with them.

Starting point is 02:09:13 The downside is you have to do something with these folks. They've been treated terrible most of their lives. They feel terrible because they know they've deceived and stolen and misled people. And so it's this sort this sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort this sort sort sort sort sort this sort sort sort sort this sort sort sort th, th, th, th, their thus their their their their th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to. thi. thii. thi. their their their their thi. sort of tradeoff where if we accept folks for their mistakes and understand that, you know, maybe the first few weeks was just choice, but now it's not choice anymore. What do we do? And the downside is, is we, you know, provide medications that control the animal. But, but is it going to be really lifelong? And right now the answer is that should be your outlook

Starting point is 02:09:50 as an addiction specialist or as a person in recovery? Yeah, it's crazy. I have a friend who's trying to get off all that stuff. And, you know, we're recovering together and he's, he's going through it. And I'm there for him. It is crazy to me. You know, there's some, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, it, it, it, it's some, it's some, it's some, you, it's some, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, the, you know, you're, you, you, the, the, the, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the's he's going through it and I you know I'm there for him. It is crazy to me. You know there's some you know it's like I'm a Christian you know but but I'm very much into like the hermetic principles as well you know like I really and one of them is you know light and dark you always have light and dark I feel like a big part of our society is that, you know,

Starting point is 02:10:26 somehow, some way we can get rid of our darkness and whatever that may be. And that seems to be like a goal, but you know, I go to recovery meetings and I know people have been in recovery for 40 years and they still say drug addict, alcoholic. And I think it's always going to be in there for you. I just think you have to understand that that you, that you, th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, th, th, th, th, th you have th you have th you have th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you thi, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi,. And I think it's always going to be in there for you. I just think you have to understand that you have a unique brain, you have a unique brain and nervous system that could easily relapse to go right back to where you were before. And for me, that's why I have to go to meetings all the time and do all that is because I have to, I have to be constantly on guard because, you know, I talk about this all the time, you know, there's the big running joke is that I have like a thousand, you know, podcast. And like, why do I have a thousand podcast? And it's because if I stop moving, the demons come dancing. I have to constantly be on the go,

Starting point is 02:11:26 so I can't stop for a second, go, oh, what kind of danger can I try to enjoy? What kind of low vibrational bullshit can I get into to kind of check out from my brain constantly going all the time? Yeah, it's, you know, the idle hands or the devil's workshop. That's an old saying, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, time. Yeah, it's, you know, the idle hands or the devil's workshop. Yeah, no, say, you know, and it's true, we fill our time with something and again with the advancements and technology, all the bad, terrible, well, I don't know, so bad and terrible, all of the pleasurable things which we are drawn towards naturally because naturally it's not easy, you know.

Starting point is 02:12:07 Meeting women is not necessarily the most natural, easy thing or seeing women naked. It's not supposed to be. Right, right. There's an effort that's supposed to be, you know, put into that. And yeah, and so it's just like with everything else, the easier it is to do something you shouldn't do, the more likely you are to do it. Yeah, but it's accountability is what you're talking about. You remain accountable to yourself and to your disease. And you do that without the assistance of medications, which is commendable.

Starting point is 02:12:38 But like you say, that's something that you will probably have to do until you're either dead or until you're demented and don't know you're in the world. Which I'd probably be next week at this right. Uh-huh. Yeah. One thing I found interesting about what you talked about is basically the rewiring of your brain.

Starting point is 02:12:59 And I start to go, well, I've always talked about, you know, when, you know, I did, crystal meth came into my life in the 90s. I didn't use it, but my friends did. And I saw what happened to really good people, like really good people, like got hooked on that stuff, and I saw them just start to change. So I really got like, I really, really was like, I'm never doing that stuff. And then my sex addiction got me in trouble. And there I was.

Starting point is 02:13:34 But I've talked about how like, you know, I'd say about eight years ago, there just seemed to be this uptick in speed that just came up like I just noticed it in the rooms and these people were coming in with like psychosis like really bad psychosis and to the point where I would like study these people just watching them in the meeting and you know I like to drive around Los Angeles I like to go through all the different sections of Hollywood and you know I you know I like to drive around Los Angeles. I like to go through all the different sections of Hollywood whether it's you know

Starting point is 02:14:10 Hollywood Boulevard to West Hollywood to this area that's like super shady because I just like to watch people and I would watch like how these obviously people on the streets were just tweaking their balls off. And it just reminds me so much of demonic possession. Like, even though you're in the science of it, is there any part of that that you start to go, is there a very dark side on top of like the possibilities of ODing and what what that does. Is there even a darker side that maybe whatever these people are consuming have some dark arts occult like voodoo in it or anything like that because I really do believe speed and alcohol there's just some really dark dark

Starting point is 02:15:01 dark energy in those things. Well I'll tell you this, I've interacted with a whole bunch of really interesting people doing addiction over the last five or six years, and from the perspective of patients. And I think that I've noticed it's very generational. So I have, for example, I take care of grandchildren, their parents, and then their parents. So you're talking two full generations or three full generations of drug addiction. And I think in the current generation, say 18 to 40 year old folks, it's, it's, the need to remove your mind from our current reality is the driving force behind the addiction. The older folks, it was basically just, I'm gonna work hard and I'm gonna party hard

Starting point is 02:16:01 and maybe one day I'll just wake up dead and not have to worry about it. But the younger folks in today that I see today, they're, you know, whether it be an opioid or methamphetamine or whatever it is, they're definitely trying to escape the reality they're forced to be in. Yes. And why that is is always the question. And I think overall, it's probably a, I don't know if it's, it's not necessarily possession. I don't know if it's, it's not necessarily possession. I don't, I think it's kind of when you talk again when you talk about Christ or Christianity,

Starting point is 02:16:46 that's the light, right? L-I-G-H-T. That's the good. And if you focus on the good, that's something, that's a reason to be. And I think a lot of folks may not be in the dark, but they're definitely not seeing the light. And so the drugs, they're definitely not a neutral light. They're not, they don't make the things neutral, but they take your, your fear of the dark, or your, you know, your unquenched desire for the light away. That's, that anxiety. And, and then, of course, you just have to have more and more and more to get to avoid the reality that anxiety and and then of course you just have to have more and more and more to get to to avoid the reality that we're in. So again go back to the conspiracy aspect of this. It'd be interesting I don't necessarily do it to

Starting point is 02:17:39 look up the total amount of profit in billions of dollars per year of the drug companies for narcotics for pain, even now with the restrictions in place, versus the profit in billions for drugs to treat in recovery, you know, like the Suboxone and Methadone. And also to look at insurance company guidelines for the treatment of recovery versus the treatment of pain. And then you can take it one step further and try to understand why you, it's just like with marijuana. Why do you have it as a Schedule you know right there with yeah heroin where you

Starting point is 02:18:30 have do you do you not get into your personal business do you take any prescription medications no okay but you probably know people who take blood pressure pills yeah sure sure sure now here's an interesting little family members for sure. This is an open knowledge thing that will, that shocks most people. If you take someone who has high blood pressure, the concern is they're going to have a stroke, they're going to become, you know, dependent or die prematurely. So we give them blood pressure medicine.

Starting point is 02:19:08 Now if we make an assumption that everything from the diagnosis to the treatment is 100% perfect for that person, what is the actual chance that the blood pressure medicine prevents that stroke? You have the idea? And would you even... So if I have a hundred if I have a hundred patients who I've diagnosed, treat perfectly for hypertension, only about 10 of those 100 people will avoid their stroke because of my medicines, which means there's a one in ten chance that someone who takes a blood pressure

Starting point is 02:19:44 medicine is actually going to achieve who takes a blood pressure of medicine is actually going to achieve a benefit from that blood pressure pill. Now on the flip side, if I have those hundred people, what percentage of them will suffer a adverse outcome as a direct result of my blood pressure pill, meaning that they either have a, they get lightheaded and they fall or, you know, something like that happens. Do you think it's more or less? Well, pardon me, just based on like studying this stuff, it's probably, I want to say more, sadly.

Starting point is 02:20:17 Yeah, it's 25%. So if you come in with high blood pressure that's accurately diagnosed and we agree on the treatment. That's so crazy. There's a one in 10 chance chance, you th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi th th th thi thi th th thi th th th thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do th. Do thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiii thi they thiii they thi thi they they thi thi we agree on the treatment. That's so crazy. There's a one in 10 chance you actually avoid the thing we're trying to avoid, but there's a one in four chance I hurt you. So imagine going to Vegas and playing that the odd again with those odds. Hey, you win every 10 spins you lose, every four spins. You know, it's whatever. And that interestingly, in the practice of medicine, that's considered good statistics. That's actually excellent statistics. So when you move into the threshold of like

Starting point is 02:20:52 the cholesterol medicines, you take the clustral medicines to prevent heart attacks, right? So you would have to treat, depending on the study, 300 to 600 people with a cholesterol pill to prevent one heart attack. And none of those, and even that heart attack would not be a fatal heart attack. But one out of 10 women who take cholesterol pills will develop diabetes as a direct result of your cholesterol pill. And that's considered not only good medicine, that's considered a standard of care. So if I have a patient, if I was doing traditional medicine, and

Starting point is 02:21:30 I had a patient that came in with an elevated cholesterol level, an elevated risk of heart attack, and I didn't put them on the medicine, I could be held accountable if they had a heart attack, even though there's no statistical proof it actually reduces the heart attack when you do the numbers. So I know you talk a lot about these, you know, whether or not Maryland and Row was the Gislain-Mexwell of the 50s or what was going on, you know. But in the world of medicine, the interesting thing to me as a nearly 50-year-old man is that the large majority of what are considered

Starting point is 02:22:05 vanilla medical conditions, we don't really, we don't really provide that much help, but I can guarantee you statistically we heard a lot of people with our medicines and the conspiracy is the lack of education on that. So you go to a doctor, you say, you know, I'm here for a check-up. So you go to a doctor, you say, you know, I'm here for a checkup. All right, Mr. Tripoli, you've got elevated blood pressure, a cholesterol through the roof, you know, whatever, everything's a mess here.

Starting point is 02:22:33 And so you need a blood pressure pill, cholesterol pill, whatever else. I would say, you know, there's at least a 30% chance chance one of those things will make your life worse than when you came to see me. But I don't, but the average provider doesn't educate you on that. They don't say those statistics because the standard of care is to provide those medicines. And that's a national standard of care, it's a local standard of care. If you don't provide those medicines and people complain you can have your license taken away. Oh man. Dude, this is getting into this thing I was just thinking as you

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Starting point is 02:24:52 I want to go there so bad. It's, so the only thing about Columbia is the peso, right? So you know the value of a Colombian peso to the American dollar. What? It is one American dollar to 4,000 pesos. Yeah. So it's point like zero, zero, zero, zero, one peso. You know, it's just ridiculous. And this is the same kind of thing. Back 30 years ago, you know, the peso was worth significantly more, but then what do you do?

Starting point is 02:25:31 You just make more pay thoes. And so if you just print out the airport. That's exactly what they're doing. Yeah. So when you're down there with someone's, if you have the taxi guy, hey, you know, how much to get to the airport, he'll say 15. But he doesn't mean 15 pesos. He means 15,000 pesos. Oh, really? It's still only three dollars. But they speak in thousands of paso. So, you know, in 20 years it's like, hey, how much do you're, you're, you're in New York or something? You say, hey, how much to get the airport and they say, you know, a hundred, but it's really a hundred thousand? Because they've printed so much money that it's devalued what you have, yeah. Yeah, that's what they're doing right now. And people have no clue and they just keep and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, th. they's really, they's really, they's really, and it's really, and it's really, and it's really, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th's really, th's really, th's really, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, thi's really, th no clue what is happening over there I want to get into something with with you about you so you work in hospice like what was that experience like when you first

Starting point is 02:26:33 started okay well you want to hear a really interesting story of course okay so the whole reason I would have interest in hospice is about, you know, in medicine, they say most people go into what ills them. So the last thing you want to do is talk to a psychiatrist because they're more screwed up than you ever thought you could be. I totally agree at that as well. So when I was a fourth year medical student, I was dating a girl, I went to Memphis, the medical school of Memphis, and I was dating a girl who went to Old Miss, which is just south of Memphis. And she had gotten into dental school in Jackson, Mississippi.

Starting point is 02:27:11 So me and her dad moved her and everything down there one weekend, including some of the heaviest furniture I've ever come across in not 50 years. Well, the neighbor, yeah, like I was this real heavy furniture. And so I got home and I felt really bad. And over the next week, I developed a headache that I couldn't, it was so severe, I couldn't sleep. And I was working with a local doctor doing some rotations in a senior in school.

Starting point is 02:27:39 And he, you know, he just found me getting worse and he started, you know, here, take this pill or take this sleep. you got to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the the the the the the the the the the the the they. And I they. And I th. th. th. I th. I thooom. I thoomome, thoome, thathea. I's, thi. thiolk, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, thoomorrow, the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, the the the the the the the the thin. I'm, thin. I'm, thin. I'm thin. thin. theananananananananan't, theanananananananananananananananokea. And, thea. And, thea. thean he started, you know, here, take this pain pill or take this sleep, you got to get some rest. And I couldn't sleep, my headache was getting worse, I couldn't eat. So finally, they got me in with a local neurologist, and before they sent me there, they shot me up with some demoral, which made me drunk as a scant. So basically the neurologist saw me, he accused me of the drug, the drug, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he thi, he thi, he thin, he thin, he thin, he thi, he thin, you thin, you thin, you thin, you thi, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, he's, he's, he's, he's thi, he's thi, he's thin, he's thin, thin, thin, thr-a. thr-a. Hea. Hea. He's thr-a. Hea. He's thr-a. Hea. He's thr-hea, thin, thi, the neurologist saw me, accused me of being a drug, he thought I was an early drug addict as a doctor. But when they did the scan, they found a brain to me. So the next thing I know, I'm in the hospital and I'm being told I'm terminally ill. What? Yep.

Starting point is 02:28:16 And so then they said, we want you to go see a specialist in Memphis. I was actually in a different town to toeeea toea toea toea toe. toe. toe. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the the. the the the the the the the the theymee. theymea. the the the the theymea. they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the a different town at the time because we don't have any option. I was like, sure. So me and my girl, now I made them keep all this private, you know, I really kind of hard to drop that on the parents and the girlfriend. So my girlfriend, unknowing without knowing any of this, drives me over to see this specialist one day. All this happened over like four days. It happened Friday Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

Starting point is 02:28:48 And I was in the hospital through the weekend. On Monday, my headache went away on Monday, which is a full week after it started, just spontaneously went away. I go to see this specialist in Memphis and we'll go in the room and it's old-fashioned medicine. The guy's walking around with 16 people behind him taking notes. He's got like cowboy boots and scrubs. Walks in and he says, you're Ira. And I said, yeah. And this is literally what he said.

Starting point is 02:29:16 Now my girlfriend's sitting here next to me, she doesn't know. She just thinks I've got a migraine or something. So he says, you're a fourth year medical student. I said, yeah, and he said, you graduate in three months. I said, yeah, he said, you're never going to see it. It's terrible, but they're going to wind up making an after school, after school movie special about your life or something. Maybe they'll name part of the school last year. Or maybe they'll give like a scholarship. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you're, thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're thi, you're, you're, you's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th. I I, th. I, you, th. I, th. I, you, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thi. I's thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. You've got an untreatable brain tumor. I'm an expert in this.

Starting point is 02:29:48 There's nothing, yeah, there's nothing I can do. And you know, he said, I can try. But he said, it's in your brain stem. And that's where, you know, the breathing and the heartbeat, the mysteries of how we exist come from. He said, I can get, he said, if you want, I'll try. But he said, there's basically a 50% chance you'll never wake up. If you do wake up, you'll probably only live a day or two. And if you live more than a day or two, you'll probably wish you didn't.

Starting point is 02:30:17 But, you know, if you want the surgery, we'll do the surgery. So my girlfriend has a complete breakdown because she had no idea. And my thought was this. Two days ago with the headache, if you'd offered me this, I may have considered it. That's how bad the pain was. The pain was so bad I was willing to consider death.

Starting point is 02:30:40 OK. But the pain was gone. And I said, no, no, no, no, I, no, no, I'm not going to do it. I just want to go home. And the guy said, okay, we'll set you up with hospice. So the next thing I know, I'm sitting in my dad's house talking to people about hospice. And they said, you know, you look really good. There's not a lot for us to do, to do, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, you know, you look really good. There's really not a lot for us to do until you get worse.

Starting point is 02:31:06 And then here's what we can do. They were some of the nicest people I've ever met, most like actually compassionate people. And I said, okay. Then I got a call from like the dean of the medical school. Do you want to withdraw? You're real close to graduation, but this guy over here saying you're not ever going to to be want to spend time with your family I was like well can I take like a week of vacation and then figure it out and he's like yeah that's fine and then I just didn't die I still have the thing in my head what I just didn't yeah so so yeah that was that was March of 2002 to that thus to the to thousand to to the the the the to to to the to to the to to the to the the to to the to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the. the the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that was not that was March of 2002.

Starting point is 02:31:48 Whatever's in my brain is still in my brain. There's a guy in Nashville either was totally wrong or I'm as lucky as the man can be. I could have very easily quit medical school and screwed myself over. I could have very easy to let that son of the bitch cut me open and kill me. Um, and I never obviously forgot that. So as I got into medicine and actually was looking at different things, I eventually decided that of all the different things I'd been doing, a hospice is the one thing where, you know, I can provide true relief from suffering, from

Starting point is 02:32:28 pain, and the people who practice in that area, whether they be nurses or psychiatrists or psychologists, actually have a sense of sympathy and concern, because we all know this is the biggest and the last big decision most people will make. It's incredible, dude. So what have you learned about death working at a hospice? It is not the worst thing. Wow, it's so interesting. Tell me. Yeah, so, well, you know, again, if you look at life from a Christian point of view,

Starting point is 02:33:13 what we do here is nothing. It's almost like we're here as a test to see if we're good enough to go to beyond, to that, to heaven or, you know, a better place. But it's kind of like, you know, I've heard a lot of talks talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to to to to to do to do to do to do to do their their their their their their their their their their to be. to be to be to be to see. to see. to see. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the to tas tas, task. task. tasks, task. task. tasks, to to task. to their their their to to their to to toe. to that to heaven or you know a better place. But it's kind of like you know I know I've heard a lot of talks that you've had with folks about who who reigns over earth. It's not God, you know, it's Satan. And the existence we have here that we mistakenly or deceitably believe is pleasurable and fun is not. And whatever lies beyond, it's so wonderful that the Bible teaches you don't even miss your closest loved ones. I mean, that's one of the, one of the tricks they tried to pull on Jesus was they said, you know, I marry a man and he dies. In tradition, I married his brother, okay, and then he dies, and then I married the next brother,

Starting point is 02:34:18 now I've married seven brothers, which one will be my husband in heaven? And the answer is, you don't care. Because being in the presence of God is so wonderful. Everything else doesn't even compare. So from that perspective, if you have the faith that you're going to transition to heaven, death is something to look forward to. And everything that you think you'll miss here is so nothing that you should never fear death. Now, that is a big step of faith,

Starting point is 02:34:55 and not everyone believes that. But I do think that almost everyone with a spiritual side understands that there is probably something beyond what we know and it's probably better. And that's my approach. But working in Tennessee, everybody's been working in Tennessee, everybody's Christian. So, you know. No, I love it.

Starting point is 02:35:28 And I think it's interesting. I, I don't fear death. I just want to be able to set my daughters up, you know, and that's really my biggest concern in life right now is setting them up for success to the best that I can. Have you learned anything about the dying, not necessarily death, but what people experience? Have you, you know, in a hospice, maybe you think you lost somebody, they come back and what do do they ever tell you anything, say anything? Um, we, I've had some of those real crazy experiences where people who are totally fine in the hospital tell me they're about to die and I like chuckle and give them the old, you're doing great and then I get a call,

Starting point is 02:36:09 they passed and you're like, what happened? They're like, the monitors were fine and then boom, they're gone. I've had the experience where I go into a room, where someone's in the intensive care unit, they're having panic and anxiety. And I go the, I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, I they, I they, I go they, I go they, I go they, I go they, I go they, I they, I'm they, I they, I'm their like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I they. I they, I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they, I they, I they. I they, I they, I they, I'm they, I'm they, I'm they. And I'm they, they, they, they, like, they, like, they. I'm they. I'm th. I'm they's th. I'm they. I'm's an intensive care unit, they're having panic and anxiety. And I go in the room and I'm having a conversation with the lady. And she was like, that man won't quit staring at me. That man, she's like the guy over in the corner. And you start, and of course, you know, you start looking around, and then you find out that she sees death. That death is waiting to take her. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I have th. I have th. I have th. I have that that that that that that that that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that, that death is waiting to take her. I've had a few conversations like that

Starting point is 02:36:48 with a few different people. I've had one lady, the strangest, I was doing a weekend shift, before I was actually technically in hospice, but you know, you unofficially doing hospice. And this lady had come into the hospital, they could not identify what was wrong with her, but she was literally on the breathing machine and, and th. th. th, and th, and th, and th, and th, th, th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi, I've that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th.. I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I've the. I've theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theat theate. that theate. that that the. I've this lady had come into the hospital, they could not identify what was wrong with her, but she was literally on the breathing machine

Starting point is 02:37:08 and blood pressure of medicine to keep her alive. And the family decided to withdraw care. And so I went in to check, you know, just to see if she was still with us. And I opened the door don't know what this means. And then this lady comes out of the bathroom, like brushing her teeth. And I said, how are you doing? She's like, oh, I'm fine.

Starting point is 02:37:31 How are you? And I said, I'm good. Are you with Miss Smith? She's like,, like, unconscious, unresponsive. And I said, what's going on? So I wake the husband, I wake him up. And he's just, you know, like, what's going on? And I said, are you Mr. and Mrs. Smith, yes, and you were here for two weeks on

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Starting point is 02:38:56 and get them restarted. And I was like, okay, so I've seen that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to too. tooo. too. too. too. too. too. to, too. to to to to tho, thi what I've seen people say dead. Yeah, I've seen people essentially pronounce dead. You know, everything except that. And then the next day you go in and they're in there looking just like we are. And nobody can tell you why. No explanation. Get ready for Las Vegas style action at BetMGM, the king of online casinos. Enjoy casino games at your fingertips with the same Vegas strip excitement MGM is famous for when you play classics like MGM Grand Millions or popular games like Blackjack, Baccarat

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Starting point is 02:40:26 because she didn't want her to be alone, but, and she told me one time when she was, she was just in there and suddenly her sister just woke up and was like, why are all these people in this room? And it was just her and their sister. And she kept saying she was just like, I just, I don't want to die. No, I don't want to go. It's just over and over and over again. She kept saying that.

Starting point is 02:40:48 And then she passed. I'll know, man, you know, like, I'm definitely on this spiritual journey and life and Christ in my life, and I think Christ is, you know, God. And I'm going to that, but I also think there's a there's there's there's a a there's a there's a thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. to thi. that's. thi. thi. that. thin. the the thi. the the the thooooooooooooo. that. toe. toe. toe. but I also think there's a lot more to this, wherever we live and all that stuff, and I'm just always trying to wonder, you know, Christ my life, God above all, and, but there's, it's super interesting, what is it like, what happens when you pass on through? And I'm not looking forward to seeing that, hopefully not for a while so I could this this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi, where thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. there's, there's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th and I'm not looking forward to seeing that. Hopefully not for a while so I could set my kids up but it's interesting and

Starting point is 02:41:30 I've always wanted to interview somebody that knew that like they only had a short time left and did they have regrets in life because you always see these things like they always ask the elderly what do you regret and it's usually that they work too much. And then we see like, yeah. This emphasis that, especially on this young generation where they want to do career over family. And I'm like, oh, man, you're just falling for it. Yeah, I was in economics class in college. And we watched a movie, a discussion that I had is kind of off the grid thing and he

Starting point is 02:42:06 said the greatest form of, what do you say, he said the basically the greatest most effective form of population control is what the US government does with the IRS. They control you by enforcing you to work and pay these taxes. You you willingly do it because you're a good American, good citizen. But it's essentially no different than communism, except that you believe you have the free will to do as you please. But he said, try not paying your taxes and see how well that goes. Yep, I'm with you, dude.

Starting point is 02:42:43 So I'm trying to think if there's anything else about the death or dying. It's, you know, when I was told I was going to die, people came to say goodbye. So people came to say their final goodby. And it's a little bit confusing because I was in the hospital because they thought I was going to die quickly. But I just kind of sit there. And then all these people that I knew it would come, like from medical school, friends

Starting point is 02:43:14 from medical school came to say goodbye. Family members, you know that you would see once every two or three years came to say goodbye. My dad, of all things, had taken out a million dollar life insurance policy only was in medical school. Because he said he invested way too much money to lose me in medical school. That's kind of a joke. And so, again, how do you process that as a parent? So I was sitting in the hospital waiting to go home and talk to the hospice people. And it was me and my dad and my girlfriend. Was the first one to hear that this was a bad thing

Starting point is 02:43:53 and was still trying to process this, right? It's a 21 year old girl. And my dad is sitting next to my bed and he's got all these papers and he was going through this little it was like a what they call it where do you buy your headstones? Oh cemetery. Well but there's a person who makes you sales them and makes the actual headstones. There's a name for it. Anyway, he had gotten a catalog from one of those places and was looking through what kind of like headstone I should have.

Starting point is 02:44:33 And he was like, you know, maybe we'll just have a big memorial plaque. And I was like, I won't care. And he's like, it could say this. It could say that. And he says, but don't worry because whenever I cash out the policy, I'm going to buy land in your name. Just as little and as calm. Where, no. And my girlfriend's over here about to just, you know, Romeo and Juliet.

Starting point is 02:45:02 I mean, she's just ready to die. He's going crazy. But interestingly, from my my my my my my my my theee thiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to my thi. to my to my to my to my thi. thi. th. to to th. th. to thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. that's, I to. just ready to die, you know, just going crazy. But interestingly, from my perspective, I was so happy that my pain had went away. I was perfectly calm. I had no anxiety or qualms about dying. I just didn't know what would happen. So I eventually talked to a neurosurgeon in Jackson and said, how am I going to die? And he said, your headache will come back very quickly,

Starting point is 02:45:30 your vision will blur, your breathing will become labored, and it'll just stop. And I was like, OK, so I spent the next 22 years waiting for that to happen. That's so crazy, Ira. That's so crazy. Ira, this has been a wonderful conversation. And I would like to figure out if we could have a deeper discussion on death on the main, on the big show, like have you honored honors a guest on there and get into death I think people need to hear about it because I

Starting point is 02:46:10 think a lot of people are afraid of it and you know it's it's hidden we had it from people there one of the two cultures that had death from people so grow one of the biggest mistakes we make and you know you look at death like there was something very honorable about it in past cultures where like to die an honorable death was like a thing that people wanted to do and now I think we run from it. And it just fits into this kind of this thing where they just, they, they, it's abundance versus scarcity in my humble opinion. That really resonates with me. So, I, the this thing. I, I, I, the the the the the the their. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their their their, their their their their their, their, their their their, their. their, their. their. their, their. their their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. they they they they it's it's abundance versus scarcity in my humble opinion that really resonates with me so I they get us to fear death so they can control you know you talk about

Starting point is 02:46:53 control us through health like not just like getting us on farm so but the but to get us to do whatever they want us to do just get as many of these days as we can. You know, and I just think it's great. This has been a great conversation. Ira, I want to tell you, man, you know, I can't thank you enough for your support, whether it's just listening or more importantly what you did for the chaos twins. I love you very much for a guy just meant talking to, you, you, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to get, to to to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to th...... to to to th. th. to thi, thi, thi, thi, to thi, to to thi, to thi, to to thi, thi, thi, to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th just meant talking to. Your story is amazing. This is like, this is, you know, I didn't know what to expect doing this and it blew my expectations away.

Starting point is 02:47:33 So I'm very thankful for that. And I'm thankful that you came on to this. And I'm going to put this out on Rockfinn and I'm also going to put it on one of the big episodes coming up so you'll be part of that, a big show on Tim Fall Hat. And then like I said, I'd love to do an episode with you on death and figure that out, man. But I just want to say thank you, man, for all the support and love. And I can't, I can't express it enough how thankful I am for everything you've done for me. Well, it's it's my my my my my my my my my my my my my my my pleasure, it's my to to to to to to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. I. to be. I. to be. I's, to be. to be. I'm, to be. to be. to be. toe. toe. I'm, toe. too. too. I'm, too. I'm. I'm, to do. I'm, to do. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I to do. I to do. I to do. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, to. I's, to. I's, to. I'm, to. I'm, to. I'm to. I'm to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to...................... I'm my pleasure. I've been following you now since about 16.

Starting point is 02:48:06 I think I heard Rogan talk about you one time about how interesting your thoughts were and how he'd never have you on a show. And so I was talking to my girlfriend when I decided to make the donation. And I'm a big Tim, Dylan, and Mark Norman, some of those guys. And I said, well, I th, I you you I you, I you, I you, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I th, I thi, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I've that, I thi, I've tho, I've tho, I've tho, I've tho, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've th. th. thin, I've th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, I've th. th. tho. thin, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I heard, I like a lot of folks, Tim Dylan and I love Tim Norman, some of those guys, and I said, well, you know, I said, I decided to make a donation to this thing and I said, we probably spent twice as much going to see these other guys and none of them will even speak to me. So, you know, why not? Well, thank you, dude. And I am very much, because I, there was a time when nobody listened to me. So I am somebody who's very thankful for every single person.

Starting point is 02:48:48 Like when I do live shows, I would I would sit and talk to everybody for hours if I could. You know, I'm just so appreciative and we're all in this together and I'm just again, thank you brother. So I look forward to talking to you. I'm gonna text you my email. I'm gonna email you my number. So you can have it, you can hit me up any time and I just appreciate you brother. So thank you for doing this. All right, I'll take care, love you guys. Hope you guys enjoy.

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