Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #759: The Shroud Of Turin With The Cult Of Conspiracy

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Starting point is 00:00:27 There's lizard people everywhere. That's some interdimensional idea. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. You just blew my mind. Good morning, swarm and welcome to Tim Fall Hat. You know I am, you know I am, you know I'm here. You know I am, you know I'm here, you know I am, you know I'm here. I'm, you know I am, you know I'm here, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, there, you, there, there, there, there, there, there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm there, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the get your mind blown? Good morning swarm and welcome to Tim Fall. How you know I am? You know I'm here to do.

Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm here to Raw. Joey's Xavier Grairo and on the ones and two's J. Nice, juicy Johnny J. J.Dog. Johnny Wooder. Guys, a lot going on in the world. But we're happy to be here. Guys, if you want to see me live, tonight, whenever this comes out, either tomorrow night or tonight, I'm in, I go down a little bit, yes, go down a little, nope, other way, other way, there you go, there keep.

Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm in Flagstaff, Arizona on the 21st. I'm in Tucson, Arizona, and I, and I'm in El Paso, Texas at the Rose Bar. It's the Rosewood Bar. Sorry, I got to change that. Guys, grab your tickets now. Let's go. And then Summerfield, I am signing the Chaos Twins. We're doing a comic book signing,

Starting point is 00:01:38 sice comedy, with the Nephilim Desquad guys and some stand-up comedy. Go to Sam Tripoli.com for those dates. And we also have a lot of other great stuff going on. Guys, we're very excited to have these guys on. They have a great podcast called a cult of conspiracy. And please welcome Jacob and Jonathan and Jacob, depending on who is the alpha. I do not know. How are you guys? Awesome, man. Oh, great. And I would say as far as who's the alpha, it's a solid 50-50, bro. We compliment each other very well.

Starting point is 00:02:15 We go against each other very well. Jonathan and I have very different viewpoints on so much shit, but we usually come to the same conclusion from very different starting points and I think that back and forth is what makes our show what it is. I love it. I love it. So real quick, tell it, each when you guys in order, ever you want to go, tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you. So my name's Jonathan and we started this cult of conspiracy podcast about four years ago and we covered just so many different things all the different conspiracies we cover a lot of weird spiritual aspects. I'm also a licensed hypnotherapist I do

Starting point is 00:02:58 past life progressions and stuff so I look at a lot of this stuff from like the spiritual kind of you know for a lack of better term woo- the spiritual kind of, you know, for a lack of better term, woo-woo angle. And that's where me and Jacob kind of, you know, we look at things in a very different way. He comes at it. He's a good Christian soldier. And I look from the young, Christian warrior.

Starting point is 00:03:20 We come to fight. That's going to be on my new, when I put all my jingles together, that will be one of my songs. Hell yeah. But with that, I'm also, I'm very clear about the fact that I am a horrible representation of what a good Christian should be acting like and looking like. And I mean, I wear that on my sleeve. God made me a sinner. It's a whole thing. We'll talk about that later. But I am also also also also also also also also also th th th th th th th th th th th th th. I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I thathea. I thathea. I tho. I tho. I tho. I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the the. the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. It's a whole thing. We'll talk about that later. But I am also a Marine Corps veteran and I served and I was stationed in Washington, D.C. for a while. I have gone into industry and that's kind of where I've made my bread and butter happen. But I having a Christian background and having a veteran background, I look at the conspiratorial world from a very very threat. I look at the conspiratorial world from a very thii. I'm thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I look thi. I look thi. I look at thi. I'm thi. I look at thi. I look at thi. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thusus. I was was was was was was was was was was was thi. I was was was thi. I was was was thi. I was was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was toe. I was toe. I was toe. I was toean. I was thi. I was thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. I'm a the the thi. I'm a the thi. I'm a thi. I'm a thi. Jonathan looks at things from a very metaphysical and very outside perspective, outside of the box thinking, looking in kind of thing. So us looking at things from these different vantage points, again,

Starting point is 00:04:14 acknowledging the bullshit where we see, calling out the global elites to whatever name you want to put on that, choose your flavor. That's what we find our passion in. And it makes for a fun show, man. I love it, dude. I'm a little bit of both you guys, you know, as I go down my journey, you know, Christ in my life, God above all. And then I just wonder like, you know, is there, you know, I talk about it's a lot in a show.

Starting point is 00:04:41 I'm sure some people might be getting tired of, but, you you be Christian and have mysticism? That's the question. That's the question. Can you have both? Can we manipulate energy? Is the changing of water to wine mysticism? Is it walking on the water mysticism? Is it feeding the masses with loaf of bread and fish? Is that mysticism? These are questions that I have no problem with asking. And I really love what you said. I believe it's Jacob, right? The NASCAR guy, okay? I love that because, you know, I do this show on Rumble called Doom scrolling. And one of the videos that we're about the

Starting point is 00:05:25 show, I'm about the show, is a guy talking about, you know, when Jesus on the cross with the two thieves, the one thieves like, hey dude, you do some magic, get us out of here. And the other thief is like, no, dude, we're here because of what we did. He's here because of, um, and he did, and he did, and he did, and he did, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. He's, thi. thi. He's, thi. thi. thi. th. th. this, th. this, this, this is thi, this is, this is, thi. thi. I, thi. I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. He's they. He's, they. He's, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, they. I, thi. I, to. I'm, to. I'm, to. I'm, to. I's is, toeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's is th. He's is know, Jesus tells the guy, you know, just you gotta believe and you're saved. And that to me resonated, like really hit me pretty hard today. It says multiple times in the book, but one that I love so much. If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you can literally move them out. Now I don't know if any of you know what the size of a mustard seed is, but you drop a pinpoint

Starting point is 00:06:07 on a piece of paper that's about the size of it. And that doesn't, you could put that to the biblical terms, of course, but honestly, even having that much faith within yourself, to accomplish a task or to get something, so many people these days don't even........ So, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. So, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, th. th. th. th. that's, you that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th..... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's themselves, they think they can't do it, they can't achieve, da da da da name your thing. But it's like dude, if you don't even have the faith of that much within yourself, then like no, you can't accomplish anything, but a little bit can go a long way if it's put in the right direction. And going back to what you were saying earlier, Sam, I mean as far as can you have, you have Jesus Jesus, you have Jesus, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thus, thus, the, the, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th is, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, th the mysticism. Well, I mean, people definitely within a lot of spiritual thought will say that they are one and the same. I mean, the story behind Jesus all the lost years, him even quoting in saying that you'll be able to do all these things that I have done and more one day. I mean, that's the way I look at it is, is looking at it by his works and

Starting point is 00:07:06 for that quote to come out of his mouth. And then also, what was it, the, if therefore, thine and I be single, then your whole body should be full of light. Like, what did all these things mean in the Bible? And that's what I'm, I'm interested in. I want to get to, I want to to know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how to know how the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I. I th. I. I. I th. I. I th. I th. I. I th. I th. I th. I to. I to things. No doubt. And then also to that point, can you have both the mysticism and the Christian aspect? Look, alchemy, aka what we now call modern medicine, 500 years ago it was called witchcraft. That's why the Caduce is the symbol that it is for the medical field. That was looked at like some sort of dark magic, using herbal remedies, and a headaches and shit. These days we just call that, you know, medicine or herbology and using the shit that God gave us to cure us of our ailments that we come up with. So when you say can you have mysticism and Christianity, where do we draw that line on what

Starting point is 00:07:56 is and is not classified as mysticism? Because to another point, electricity. We don't know what it is. We know how to manipulate it. We know mathematically how to make it do what we want. We know how to utilize it to our advantage, but if you, because I'm also an electrician. We actually don't understand what electricity is at its principle. We just know how to manipulate it. Take that to 2,000 years ago, that would appear to be full-on spiritual magic to somebody who didn't know any different. So where do we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we to to to to that to that to that that to that that to that th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, we don't, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. We, th. th. We don't, the, the, the, thean, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thean, thean, the. We don't, the. Weon spiritual magic to somebody who didn't know any different. So where do we draw that line of what is and is not mysticism and what is and is not of God? Right, and that really brings us into what we're trying to kind of dabble into today with the shrew out of Torin. And I mean, it is one of the most magnificent things that anybody's ever looked at, whether

Starting point is 00:08:46 you're, you know, a Christian or otherwise. It's still like nobody's been able to recreate it. It is like it's been passed down like from all these different hands and it's gotten in burned buildings and people have tried to kind of take it to the scientific labs to try and break it down and even they weren't able to do it and it's just the most heavily scrutinized artifact in human history. Yes. All right, so let's get into that. Let's start with that.

Starting point is 00:09:17 This is a great, great topic. It's always fun when you're 759 episodes in and you got a topic that you have haven't talked about so I these are some of my favorites So let's get into what is the shroud of Tauran? All right. Let's talk about this man. So the shroud of Tauran in and of itself. What is it? We're going to talk about the history of it, what it's made of? The controversy surrounded a little bit of the historical precedence, and then we're going to break down. the the the tho tho tho tho the tho tho. the tho. the tho. tho. the the tho. tho. the sh sh sho. the sh-a. the shrou. the shrout. the shrout, the shrout, throut, throud. throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut is, throut is, throut is, the shrout is, the shrout is, throut is, throut is, throut is, throut is, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, thrown, throut, and, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, throut, then we're going to break down some possibilities as to what and how it made the image that it made. All right, so let's go. A shroud or a death shroud more commonly referred to is a cloth that a person is buried in. You could see this in multiple cultures around the world.

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Starting point is 00:10:45 Okay? Now let's talk about what the shroud is made of. Like just breaking it down to a bare bones minimal level. The shroud is made out of cheap materials. Yes, very common fibers that you would have been able to find very readily available, but are rare in an expensive way. Okay, they're made this, the cloth itself is manufactured this way. Think of like a high dollar hoodie or like some really high dollar jeans. Okay, they're made with common materials, but high quality. You see what I'm saying? And this is done in a certain pattern that is woven into it. So the cloth is woven into a three and one herring bone twil. That's not necessarily important, but it is actually brought up a couple other times. th. th. th.. to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th. th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, a the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. they. they. they. they. they. herring bone twil. That's not necessarily important, but it is actually brought up a couple other times, and I thought it's interesting to make a little caveat

Starting point is 00:11:28 to mention it now. This is a rare pattern for the time period, and there's only one other example from history that we have found, because again, cloth doesn't keep well, right? It's very hard to keep some piece of fabric for 100 years in a to to to to to to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to hundred years in a closet, let alone 2,000, right? So we only have one other example. One of one or one of two? Of this pattern, we're talking maybe one of 50.

Starting point is 00:11:52 This shroud itself, though, is a one of one. The other example is from a cathedral in Egypt that the Romans occupied and some of their materials are found later on, this herring bone twill pattern. And it also dated to the 1st century AD row. So historical precedence lines up across the board to how it's made materials that's used all the things. Now, the pattern shows, like I said, also in the Hungarian manuscript, in 1192. This Hungarian manuscript, I'm gonna to make a couple of mentions of it because it also shows a burn pattern that's very indicative of this. There's an L-shaped burns in

Starting point is 00:12:29 the shroud. There's four of them across the thing, which means that at one point in time the shroud was folded into fourths. We're going to talk about where those burns came from a little bit later. You're talking about like this? I tellainthe about the the up the Hungarian manuscript 1192, that will show the picture. Let's watch XG spell this. Here we go. Hungarian what? Manuscript 1192. 191, 192?

Starting point is 00:12:53 1192? There we go. Hey, buddy, you crushed that. You did that? You did it. Good job. Crushed it. You see that? You did that. You did it. All right. That pattern right there. You see that zigzag up and down

Starting point is 00:13:09 with the holes burned into it? Yeah. Yeah. That is the image right there where your cursor is one. That is the actual picture of the shroud of torn itself. The actual burn marks made and the up and down herring bone pattern shown. So we know that those burn marks are at least predating of 1192 when this manuscript was made.

Starting point is 00:13:36 Hold on, so will you say the herring bone, am I pronounced that correct? Yeah, I think it's like the fish. Go back to that, please, Xavier, go back to that thing. Are you talking about that kind of like... That zigzaggy up and down there? This? Yeah. So if you look at the shroud of torn under a microscope, you'll see that it is woven in that pattern. Okay, all right. That looks like some kind of lawn furniture. Kind of. Kind of. At the same time, most clothing wasn't woven in this pattern. No, I got you. But yeah, it's very interesting. But I mean, there's only so many ways to use it. So, so is the whole thing like that or just parts of it?

Starting point is 00:14:19 The whole thing. Now again, to our naked eye, you couldn't see it, but if you got close you would be able to see how the weavings is done and the entire Shroud is done in this three to one herring bone pattern So and again if you the L-shaped burn marks in the shroud are shown in this manuscript, so we're gonna talk about how and why those came about here in a bit, but as of now we know that those burns at least were on the shroud predating 1192, which is that's pretty interesting that they even mentioned it in the manuscript, you know what I mean? So anyway, the dimensions are currently 14 feet 6 inches by 3 feet 9 inches. Now I say currently because it actually was stretched out in 2002 by the Vatican to put on display so some of the wrinkles and some of the folds that would have given way a little bit and it was also steamed which took away a lot of the ability for carbon dating to

Starting point is 00:15:17 be redone correctly because the number one rule would you say that was done on purpose? You don't think the Vatican knew that doing that would mess up the art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art art.. the art. the number one rule. Would you say that was done on purpose? You don't think the Vatican knew that doing that would mess up the art in a way? It's very possible. Now to say that the Vatican tamper with materials, I mean look that there's tons of historical precedence for this shit. Yeah, I could also, you know, looking at it, boots on the head in the clouds and feet on the ground. I could also see them wanting to steam it out to get a flat and perfect image of it. But at the same time, anybody who does anything with clothing will tell you the number one rule for keeping clothes stored is do not steam it. Because the heat plus the water, which is a natural oxidizing agent can only do one thing

Starting point is 00:16:01 and that's start the denigration of the cloth. So take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take take tak tak tak tak tak th th th th. So th. So th. So the the to the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's. that's. tooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the the that's start the denigration of the cloth. So take that how you want it for sure. All right. It's interesting. We, you don't know what is the perspective of the Vatican. You know, are they friends? Are they foes? You know, what are they hiding from us? What it, what's the real purpose?

Starting point is 00:16:24 It's just kind of crazy. And again, it just gets into this thing where like, the base of most religions are really good people. It's this high concentration of satanic worshippers that seem to infiltrate all these different organizations. And then we have like an interesting question about that. As a mystic, right, as somebody into the woo-wo, do you have an interesting thoughts on the luciferians,

Starting point is 00:16:52 the, the, the, the, the Satanist and all that stuff? Is that misunderstood stuff? Is that, you know, satanic panic in your belief, Jonathan? So, as far as all, I do believe that there is representation of people going out of the realm of what is possible and bastardizing it. So they'll take something and they'll do the exact, exact, like, reciprocal of whatever good is. And you kind of see that with, for instance, anybody who's ever seen a picture of Jesus, he always has the two hands or the two fingers going up

Starting point is 00:17:32 and the other hand pointing to his chest. And then you see the picture of the baffamet, who has the two fingers up and the two fingers down, as above so below, Jesus was trying to say as above so within. And so there's the bastardizing concept that maybe the the dark arts is really trying to get into like some kind of mirror demon dimension or something. Inversions. Right. And you find symbols like that all over the place.

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Starting point is 00:18:36 It was, I took pictures of a lot of the things I came across. And there's a statue of Pan, you know, like just goat boy there with this family, the really sick-looking family like in this black iron like reaching out for something in the distance and there's a child and the in Pan is kind of fluting them along like move and I have no idea why it's there I tried to find information about it. Why is it there? It's weird? It's weird, dude, it's weird. And then I was in the Louvre for a while and we went on a tour. And so much the art is just dark. You know, I mean, and it's not really explained why. It's just really menacing.

Starting point is 00:19:14 Now I'm not talking about the religious paintings. Obviously, you know, they're depicting things from the Bible. But I'm just talking about the imagery, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, like, like, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, is, is. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the, is. the, is. the, is. the, the gargoyles and all that shit. It's just really like babies looking like they're just in pain, you know, like above, like all, I took pictures of the faces, we'll talk about a broken sin, but yeah, there's so much. When we were in Paris? Just last week, yeah. Okay, hold on, hold on, a couple of questions. One, you said you went to the loop. Did you see, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, the, th. I, I, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I. I. I. I. I, I. I. I, I, I. I. I. I, I. I, I. I, I. I, I, I. t. t. t. t. t. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, t.............................. t. t. took. took. took, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, yeah, it was. Were you as disappointed as I was? Yeah, it was, you know, I like, there was another painting that I liked better from, from the same period, which I think is called, what would you expect? Bro, it's the size of a fucking textbook.

Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, it's not big. They make it out to be some grand thing like, you know, it's tiny. It's funny. Which one, which the one is, which the one, which the one is, which they is, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one is, which one, which one, which one, which one, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which one. Which. Which. Which. Which. Which. Which, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which one, which is, which one, which one, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is, which is and they did it is funny, like really small? No, not like a novel, but like a textbook. Like, you know, oh. They do this thing in the room too, which is they have it opposite, this massive painting. I mean, that just takes up an entire wall, which I guess they're trying to prove a point by that. But no, that I liked better. Let me see, I see if I can find it.

Starting point is 00:20:28 Oh, here it is right. There's this other Davenchie painting that apparently would be, it's portrait of an unknown woman, sorry, that would apparently be more popular than the Mona Lisa had it been stolen, you know, the whole thing about the Mona Lisa, it got stolen in the early 1900s by some Italian guy. It's kind of revenge for the French stealing all their art. And that is what put it on the map internationally. But this other painting apparently, you know, just for example, as an example of his technique and ability, Davenchies, is better, is superior.

Starting point is 00:21:03 I thought it. I mean, th th th the th. And you th. And you th. And you thi the thi thi the thi thi thi the thi thi thi, you the thi, you thi, you thold, thold, tho, tho, tho, you thi, their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thin, thin, thin, th. Wea. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. theololou. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th.'s is superior. And I thought it, I mean, and you can get close to this one because nobody gives a shit about it, it wasn't stolen. It's just all about stories, right? But there's so much so much imagery in all of the, I mean, just so much like symbolism. And the guy who gave our tour was, I mean, just this brilliant, I guess he's like a professor locally or something and apparently people were so much better educated around that time about symbols and so much better educated about the Bible that they knew where to look in paintings for symbols and how they interpret them and that there's a whole language that

Starting point is 00:21:37 we're just missing in art when we see it today and so you know it just kind of strikes us as... No, it was like that thing you mentioned, John, where the guy had his fingers like that. Remember you said it meant something to them, but we had no idea? Oh, yeah, that was another, another Davenchie about.

Starting point is 00:21:52 Oh, like, was that the slid as and jesus as babies in this hypothetical meeting when her was killing you know the infants and you got mother marry kind of pushing jesus or sorry pushing john the baptist toward jesus and then an angel is there with her like a finger like this you know right kind of like pointing right at neck level for john the babb, you know, I was beheaded. And apparently that was kind of something everybody back then would have known and it kind of, it, it, it galled the church.

Starting point is 00:22:33 They hate, I mean, they hated it and they made him do it again. He did it as kind of a protest and there's another version of it that's in England that they have now that doesn't have any of the hidden imagery, and it's just a regular painting of that, of that imaginary scenario. Hey guys, so we're going to take a minute to talk to you about sex. 15 minutes or less. That's great when you're talking about pizza delivery. You know when it's not great? When you're talking about your performance in the bedroom. That's why we've partnered with our friends at Joy Mode, gone are the days of sketchy gas station erection pills and the worst kinds of side effects you can imagine. We're talking about heart problems,

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Starting point is 00:24:46 That's right Sam, you use that code at use joymode.e.com. Use joy mode. Ingredients with integrity. Joy mode. Have you ever read the divine comedy? Yeah, yeah in school. Yeah. Okay, so Dante's Inferno. If you read that, bro, and I don't read that to as like a true source to what hell is like I read it to like, all right, this is what a dude living in this time frame thought hell would be at his worst, right? And he brings up these pagan gods. He brings up these certain politicians. He brings up these random references that like Dude in 20 24 it would mean, it th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi th is th is thi thi. thi. thi. thus. thus. thus. thus is thus is thus is thus is thus is like thus is th. th. th. th. th. this is is is is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th is th. th is th. th is th. th is th. th. th. the is the is the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. the. the. the. th., but if you look at the historical time place and audience, it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense and it paints more of a picture. So to your point, a lot of the people of that day and age would have read that and known exactly what the fuck he was talking about.

Starting point is 00:25:35 There is so much lost in translation across the board and that's just yester year ago or yester century, you know what I mean? year ago or yes or century you know what I mean? That's like comedians when you watch old comedy specials and they're doing jokes about politicians and everyone's rolling and you're like I don't know what you're talking about right like that is exactly what it is. It's just why I'm worried Hicks might not make it was it was tending for the time. Yeah no doubt. Last question Johnny then we'll get back to. Do you think that those are all all all all all th are th are th are th are th are th are just are just are just are just th th th th th th th th th th th just thus are just thus are just just just just just just just just their their their just just just their just their just thus thus thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theeee. thee. theeee. theeeee. the to, do you think that those are all the actual pictures or do you think those are just fakes because of the... So that someone doesn't throw, you know, a lot of, the ones are the most valuable artifacts all have,

Starting point is 00:26:16 they're covered. You know, there's just, you're not actually seeing the paint on canvas. There's a layer of glass between you and them. But some of it, yes, it's entirely probably, I think more likely even Sam, is that they think they have genuine items there and they don't. I mean, I totally believe that because so much of this stuff is change, change hands. You know, what the tour guide had this funny little saying about how Napoleon was a bit of a collector. Really, I mean Napoleon would invade countries and take all their art, you know, and a lot of it they- Dude, he took a whole building.

Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. There's a whole fucking Egyptian building in Paris right now, in the middle of it, because he brought it down brick by brick and sent it back there. The dew was insane. Yeah, he had sticky fingers. And he was, I mean, you know, Hitler did the same thing. There's something with this certain type of personality. They love collecting art and artifacts. And some of it they get back, but a lot of it's there. But it's changed hand, like I said, many times.

Starting point is 00:27:16 So I think it's possible that it's not genuine. And we've seen, I mean, it's been it's been, it's been, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's possible, it's been documented. There's several documentaries about how easy it is to fool these people. You know, if they want to believe, and when in the case of like a really well-known artist, they're, you know, they're going to want to believe that it's genuine. Especially if it's been accepted as genuine for a long time, I think it would be easy. to fool them. Next question, did you go to Notre D while you were there? Yeah, we did. It's still in a construction from the fire, though. They're trying to get it back together in time for the Olympics, so you couldn't really, I had been before, I'd seen that, but yes, you can't go in, you can't really get that

Starting point is 00:27:54 close. It's sad, yeah. The damage is that bad? think they need all the scaffolding to get, because the fire I was reading about it, it started, they think it's either electrical fire or some dip shit left a cigarette in the, like in the spire up for the top. Isn't that crazy? Some retard. Yeah, they're like 50-50.

Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah, I mean, some French do flicked a cigarette and burned down Notre Dame. That is literally equally as plausible as shitty electrics burn. And boy do they smoke there dude? They smoke. They didn't get the memo on smoking. These sons of bitches smoke like crazy dude. Not even vaping. Just smoke. Hardcore. So if you watch IPEC go, I really, that's such a crazy as video. The, the Notre Dame fire is in that. It's so crazy. It looks exactly how the fire looked when everybody took pictures of it.

Starting point is 00:28:53 And which was even crazier is the picture of Michelle Obama drinking wine. And in her glass, you could see the reflection of the fire. It's like, as much as everybody hated Q, it was some weird-ass shit. Like all this stuff just kind of lining up. That was just so nuts. Dude, we literally just got done doing a show on a show. to last night.

Starting point is 00:29:23 We did a show on that last night. Oh, it's so good good dude. It's so crazy I had never seen it before I'm actually embarrassed that as a conspiracy head I had never seen that video before it was back in 2013 that thing came out. Yeah. Wow shit and then like they interview the guy that made it and he's like I don't know I mean, I just put it together. And they're like, what? Yeah, it's like very mysterious, right? Who'd have been channeling it. Who knows? Yes, I do believe in that.

Starting point is 00:29:52 I do believe. Okay, let's get back. Because right, thrown. to be, the shroubent. to the shroud itself. Let's talk a little bit more about the dimensions and everything else. Like we said, the original dimensions were actually measured in cubits, but yes, it is consistent with other burial shrouds of the time and era that this is claimed to be from. The original shroud is 0.04 inches thick, and it has a thread count of somewhere

Starting point is 00:30:19 between 70 and 120 depending. Keep in mind this was made hand woven, so it's not going to have the same consistencies that modern fabrics would have. There's going to be some discrepancies, okay, but that was pretty standard across the board. Each thread is about 200-ish microns thick. Keep that one on the back burner because later when we talk about the image, keep in mind that that only goes through two microns of the 200 on th on on on on on th on th on th on th. on th. on.. th. th. th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I's, the. I's, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I's, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. toean. togean. toge. toge. toge. toge. the. thea. thea. the. the. the. that only goes through two microns of the 200 on the threads that are affected. But we'll talk more about why that's important later. XG is it correct?

Starting point is 00:30:49 Yep. Earlier you had a picture of the shroud that tore and pulled up, the actual picture of, could you pull that up one more time from you, sir? One second on it. All right. There are brown lines on the sides of the shroud that go the entire length of it. This is actually scorch marks from the fire of 1532. We're going to talk about that one in depth in a little bit. It didn't destroy the shroud, but it did leave the scorch marks.

Starting point is 00:31:12 Those are two brown lines that go the racing stripes down the sides of it, if you will. the race on one on. No respect it. Fuck yeah. There is also four matching L-shaped holes that predate the 1532 fire. Those the L-shapes that we were talking about earlier. Now again, we don't know where those L-shaped burns came from. We can tell that it it it it it it it it it it it it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it that it is that it is that it is that it is that it is that it is was folded into fourths at one point in time and the best story that we've been able to come up with is

Starting point is 00:31:48 that this is from incense that fell onto the shroud during an ecclesiastical right. Okay, that's the best we could say but there is actually no written record and nobody has fesced up to who burned the shroud. That's just is one of those mysteries. But again, we know that these burns have been there for as long as we have any record of it pictorily depicted. By the way, if you actually burn this, are you going to admit to it? I get it. I get it. I don't know. I just walk in. Thing was on fire. I'm the hero of this story. I put out of the fire. I say, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm that. I'm the the that. I'm the the th. I'm a, I'm a thi. I'm the th. I'm a the the th. I'm, I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm a. I'm the the the the the the the the the the th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the. I'm the. I'm thean. I'm thean. I'm a thean. I'm actually. I'm actually. I'm thean. I'm thean. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thean. I'm the. I saved it. You're welcome. Okay, I gotta go. I'm going home. My wife's called.

Starting point is 00:32:26 No doubt. I absolutely agree, dude. I mean, if I was to be the one that did anything to it, I wouldn't own up to it. But it's actually crazy. Later on we're going to talk about this. One of the royal families that owned it was cutting off strips of this shroud and sending it to other royals as gifts. We're going to talk about them in a minute. Again, fucking, the Italians are wild people, dude. Wild people. Anyway, so another famous painting from 1516 shows the holes again verifying that the burn marks predate the 1532 fire. Okay, so this painting, 1516, shows those L-shaped burns. This fire, the 1532 fire was in Champuri, France.

Starting point is 00:33:06 Also the paintings don't, excuse me, the paintings don't have the scorch lines. So that earlier the one from the manuscript, you see it doesn't have those two dark identifiable lines, neither does the painting from 1516. So it was caused from the 1532 fire. There are eight major burns that were occurred from molten silver. Long story short, the fire in 1532, it was housed in a silver coffin. The fire got so hot that some of the metal actually went through and the molten silver burned the shroud of torn. The, trying to remember, the poor Claire nuns sewed patches over the holes and these are

Starting point is 00:33:45 these eight triangles that we see on the shroud as we look at it today. Because everybody's like, well, what are those are from? There was a fire, silver came, burn some holes, and the nuns got permission at the time to sew on these patches, just to kind of make up the gaps. There are numerous water water water water stains the water stains the water stains the water stains the water stains. the water stains. the water stains. the water stains. thane. thane, thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thains. thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thiaughes, thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia, thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thia thi. thi. th. thine, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the, the, thr-s, thrieee an thriea, thria. thria. thriea, thria, thria, thria, thea,to kind of make up the gaps. There are numerous water stains, blood stains, not to mention some of the water stains are from putting out the fire, but some of these are from the original wearer of this shroud, notably from around the head, the torso, and the chest cavity itself. This thing is crazy because I just Google it myself. and this thing is nuts. How long is it? Hold on and pull up those dimensions I want to say because keep in mind it's one cloth that was wrapped like this right so it's like a full man's length doubled over.

Starting point is 00:34:38 The original dimensions of it were four or now excuse me as a stretched out 14 feet six inches by a three feet nine inches. Was he laying flat because there's a thing where he's not laying flat it shows with him he's laying like kind of with his knees up that's not actually real it's a right they made a hyper realistic model of what the wearer of this shroud looked like. Now yes, he's not laying flat, but they did this and we'll talk about these scourge marks that you'll see in a minute. Actually you know what, pull it up, the, you look at the picture of the shroud and then

Starting point is 00:35:13 look at the negatives, there's one right to the negative. There's one right this video this right now and I mean I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this but when you actually look at it when you if you go to the Wikipedia of the Shroud of Torn something really is crazy about this because what we're seeing what they're showing us right here is kind of based on this picture the bottom of the of the of the of the thing can you find that Savior does it show go right there where that one right there yeah so they're showing you the bottom of it I'm sorry and correct me if I'm wrong but bro the top that looks like the devil to me like it the the the the the bottom of it like I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I'm I I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the I the I'm the I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the top that looks like the devil to me like

Starting point is 00:36:07 it looks really weird look at the bottom has horns right there like look at I mean I'm not trying to throw off anything but if you look at it it looks like that's the bottom is Jesus? Oh no no no that's water stains that's water stains off of his head right right right here where like you go where the bottom where the top part of his head. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the devil the the the the devil the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o.o. too. too. toe. toe. toe. too. the the the the the the the the the the the the the, that's water stains. That's water stains off of his head. Right, right here? Like, where the bottom, where the top part of his head, right here and here? So those are blood and water stains, yes. And actually that's a part of the image itself, because right there, those are his shoulders. Yeah, those are his shoulders, and you go to his head. Right. And then there's a gap where there's another looks like tiny little horns. Because it's folded, you're supposed, you're supposed to fold it, right?

Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, it was folded at that point. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's really interesting though, man. Really interesting. That is really crazy to me. Well, the shroud, like I said, the highest scrutinized artifact in human history. Because there's a story as to how and where it came from, but nobody wants to agree on it because it verifies too many things that they really don't want to verify. But that's in the eye of the beholder, if you will. You believe what you want to discuss what they don't, what they do and don't want to verify later? Can you discuss that? Well, we're talking about Jesus Christ, right? There's a lot of people that say that, oh, he never existed, he's a metaphorical being. There's a lot of people saying, no, Yeshua of Nazareth is a real dude to walk

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Starting point is 00:38:25 accounts, verify that the dude was who and what he said he was. And a lot of people don't like that, but that's neither here nor there. That's up to people to decide for themselves, I suppose. All I could do is provide the truth and a lot of people out there that don't know what the actual shroud of torn is. I mean, I really didn't even know what it was up until about a year or two ago. Just going back to, you know, that whole scene where Jesus is brutally tortured and everything, and then kind of laid into this tomb and then has this shroud over him, this death shroud is typically what you would do, right? And so people would go back and then what was, was it Mary that went back and found that it was folded?

Starting point is 00:39:11 His, yes, well that's a part that's mentioned in the Bible and that's very, very important as well. But again, you're saying this is kind of what would have happened. Yes and no, and there's a little bit of the controversy itself. People think that, well, he's a crucifixion victim, right? And we could tell that from the blood spots that we see on his wrist and on his feet. It's guaranteed whoever was put away in this shroud was a crucifixion victim. And judging by the scourge marks that we can see in the negative, this dude took upwards of 400 different lashings from a flagram., which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which, which,that has metal, bone, shards, all these things at the end.

Starting point is 00:39:45 It's meant to tear flesh from bone. Oh. So he took 400 lashings from that and then was crucified to death. Now here's the thing. Her Hebrew law, if you did something so heinous to be crucified, you were not going to be crucified. Hebrew burial because you probably also went against the law of Abraham and whatever kind of malfeas and she was about that day, right? The thing is Jesus was sinless, both by the written law and by the law of Moses, and they knew that. He was innocent across the board. So there is not a single other record anywhere in any history where a crucifixion victim who also was a victim of the lashings also was buried

Starting point is 00:40:25 traditionally in a shroud with the proper burial rights, the body positioning, all of these things. Nowhere else is that mentioned ever except for Yeshua of Nazareth. Irish Jedi is losing it right now as he listens to this thing. Irish Jedi does he likes to do super chats and say he's readying of his super chat fun right now to blast us next time we go live. Next Tuesday, guys. Just taking up a couple extra paper out gigs so we can spend another saying unspeakable things. Yeah, it is interesting to me that whole thing that even plays out today and just a discussion

Starting point is 00:41:03 of it and with anti-Semitism and all that, which is just beyond ridiculous. Like, so complicated, it's such a complicated thing, man. It is. So they broke down, they did a carbon dating testing, and they also did samples from this, okay, through spectroscopal skinopey. I probably butchered that word as well, but assuming. Dirt was down to Ohio.

Starting point is 00:41:29 We don't expect anyone to get any pronunciations correct. Two out of three gas are retarded. Hey, you know, there's two of us here. So by the line. I'm actually meant two out of three a host. I'm actually say no, we're not wrong dude. Yeah, Xavier and I cannot spell or read and Johnny's doing all the heavy lifting. A lot of heavy lifting and I'm on the spectrum so it's a we're all we're all bringing something to the table. I can't believe anyone listens to the show. We are famously horrible at math which really sucks when we start talking like ratios and statistics and stuff we'll totally just throw out th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the th. the the th. they. their their th. thi. I's. their their their, they. Yeah. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. the. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah. the. Yeah. the. the. the. the. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the th. the the the the the the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the and stuff, we'll totally just throw out some number. I'll listen back to it and be like, that math doesn't even slightly math.

Starting point is 00:42:09 Holy shit, it's embarrassing. But anyway, there was dirt samples that were found around the feet, one of the arms and on the cheek, all of these identified again to the road of Jerusalem to the first century AD. There was even pollen samples that were taken from what would have been in the air around that time. It was found that those were from the fauna of Jerusalem in the first century AD. Okay. Later using x-ray microfluescence and scanning electron microscopy confirmed all of these results beyond a shadow of a doubt. This shroud, wherever it came from, absolutely was in Jerusalem in the time period that it was claimed to be. The image shown...

Starting point is 00:42:52 Were these tests done during like that, like that... This planet, uh, discovery channel documentary, I remember watching a long time ago? Were these, this test that were ran on that or that before, after? So the first test test test test test test test that that tests that tests tests that was tests that that tests that te te te te the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. these this test that were ran on that or that before after? So the first test that was done that initially made the claims about the dirt were from the 80s. This was later verified in 2002. I don't believe they re-scanned. I think they re-verified the samples that were originally scanned. I think they saved those samples and scanned them again because they were not allowed to cut anything else from the shroud. When the Vatican gave them permission to do it that one time, they made it clear this is going to be one time. But the problem is that they only took it from one section.

Starting point is 00:43:31 It was proposed that they would come from seven different sections of the shroud itself, from varying points so that they could get a median range for the carbon dating across the readings of all of the samples. They were only allowed to actually carbon date, which means they would destroy it, one small corner of the shroud. So again, that leads to some controversy itself. Was this corner towards the edge of the fire that day? Did it get a little extra carbon in the pickup? Is it a completely clean sample and what they got is what they got?

Starting point is 00:44:00 And that's the thing. Nobody can correctly say without a shadow of a doubt, which is why the seven samples were proposed in the beginning. And also whenever they, whenever the shroud was burned and it was kind of like just flailing there at the bottom, they added new linen to it so that whenever the, this one specific sample from the shroud of Turin got taken to, you know, have scientific research or whatever done to it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th..... They th, th, th, th, th. They th. They thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, their their, their, their, their, tho- is tho- is tho- is tho-is-is-is. And, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, and also, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their throwne, throwne. thrownease, throwneateateateateatease, their, their sauuuanananananananananananan, throut, throut is th got taken to, you know, have scientific research or whatever done to it, they found that it was a combination of the new linen and the old linen. And that's why, you know, whenever people came back and noticed, because they were saying, well, this has to be, you know, the carbon dating shows that this has to be from the year like 1,200 or 1300, or something, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.......... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the the th, th, th, th, th. And, thi. And, they they theeeou, they they theou, they they they they they they they they they they they theou, the. And, th carbon dating shows that this has to be from the year like 1200

Starting point is 00:44:45 or 1,300 or something like that because they were taking an accumulation of the years and kind of forming it into one year. So if something happened back in 1,000, you know, something, you know, from whenever after the fire and then basically conjoining those two numbers, that's where they come up with the 1,200, you know, scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific scientific, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th................ the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th basically conjoining those two numbers, that's where they come up with the 1,200, you know, scientific reasoning as to where this could have come from and when it could have come from. Guys, I want to tell you about our friends at prize picks. I love these guys. I've been playing it.

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Starting point is 00:48:27 Now, there is a lot of stories and a lot of claims to how it got from Jerusalem to Turin itself. Okay, but this is the most likely chain of events that I specifically found. I'm not saying this is 100% truth. I'm saying it's most likely, okay. Long story short. The shroud was thletletletletlet was th, th, let th, let th, let th, let was th, let was th, let th, let was th, let th, let th was th was th was th was the the the the the the the the the the the the the let let's theoes the the the thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes th. Let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let's th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe. Lete. Let's the. Lete. Long story short, the shroud was taken by the disciples of Christ and made it to Antioch. The Christians, the original Christians, fled from Jerusalem and went to Antioch before the city fell in the siege of 70 ADE when the whole big thing, the temple was ransacked, all of that. The Christians had already made the Persians sacked Antioch. The Patriarch of the Church actually made a deal with the Persians and said, hey, you can

Starting point is 00:49:13 level the city but do not touch the church. And as a matter of fact, that is the only building that was not leveled to the ground in the siege of Antioch by the Persians. You just think about all the, well, I mean, what's happening in Gaza right now, it's just the leveling. Just think about wherever you live right now, and every house is gone. And then you just be like, hey, okay, okay, just don't hit this one building. Just don't hit that one building. That is so crazy to me what human beings can do the other human beings. They were doing this without explosives. Keep that in mind. These dudes were motivated so much. They were physically tearing down these buildings brick-by-brick-to-make-upon-po-yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, yeah, just think. This is before cannons. They didn't have that. They may have had catapults, but that was about it. that it that it fucking city. When the Romans took over that Egypt, what was it, Carthage, and they went as far as to salt the ground, so nothing would ever grow there again. You realize how motivated these dudes were to do that by hand? That's it. I'm just saying, anyway. I'm just saying. Anyway, I'm just saying. that. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I'm just that, I'm just that, I was, I'm just that, I'm just that, I was, I'm just that, I was, I was, I was just that, I was just that, I'm just that, I was just that, I was just that, I was just that, I was just that, I was just that, I was, I was, I was just th. I was just th. I was just just just just just just just just just just just just just, I was, I was. I was, I was. I was, I was. I was, I was, I was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. fuel. It is. And then we look at the situation in Gaza, you realize, dude, this area of the world, this is nothing new. This area of the world has been doing this. That gets into this thing that I've been saying forever, man. It's just like, I just think we live in a haunted house, and some places are more haunted than others, excuse me,

Starting point is 00:50:42 and that it may turn for a their their their their their their and that it may turn for a little while, but it will eventually go right back to being haunted. Like your job is not to change the haunted place, but to get out of the haunted place, to move to a not haunted place. Within this realm, that's why I think we're all born in certain places based on whether, whatever the reasons we're here born. Some people think multiple lives, past lives, some people think that, you know, we're sent down to learn a lesson. Whatever that is, you're sent to a certain place.

Starting point is 00:51:18 Some places are way more haunted than others. That's my opinion. Yeah, I absolutely agree. So, yeah, the crazy thing is is that there has been a lot of people that are that have been trying to replicate this image for, you know, hundreds if not thousands of years to try and prove its validity. And there's actually people nowadays that have been that have taken it and they're like, well, maybe it is some kind of some kind of light that was emanating from Jesus. And in order for him, whenever he escaped the tomb and he wasn't there

Starting point is 00:51:56 anymore, even though he was, you know, he had this shroud over him. How did he get out? And a lot of people will say, well, that was, you know, for a lack of a better term, like his light body escaping. And so people, well, they'll try and play with the light a little bit and try and figure out, okay, well, if that was the case, what kind of voltage would Jesus have to exude from his body in order to imprint this shroud? How would he go about doing that? And there have actually been people who have done the actual, the voltage to try and see exactly how much voltage it would require for all that. It says, somebody said it would require 500,000 volts of electricity to produce a replica that would only be a few centimeters long. And if you were to retry, uh, to try to try to replicate, uh, repriple, the image the image, the v. the v. the v. the v. the v. the v. The the v. The voltage, the v. The voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, to to the voltage, the voltage, to to to to to the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, to the voltage, the voltage, to to the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, to to the voltage, the voltage, to to the voltage, to to to the voltage, to to to to to to to the voltage, to to to to the voltage, to to to the voltage, to to to the voltage, to to to the voltage, to to to to to to to the voltage, to to the voltage, to to the voltage, to to the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, the voltage, to produce a replica that would only be a few centimeters long. And if you were to try to replicate the actual shroud in its entirety, it would take tens of millions of volts of electricity to imprint that image onto the shroud itself.

Starting point is 00:53:00 Now also with that image, keep this in mind. The image that you see, not the negative, the regular image, when you shine a light on it, it disappears. Now what this means is there's no paints, there's no pigments. This is not soot from a fire. This is not a, this is literally, it changed the atomic structure of these atoms to be a different hue,

Starting point is 00:53:21 a different color. And this discoloration disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc disc, that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that is that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that is, that is, that is, th, that is, that is that is, th. th. that is, that, that, that, the, the, the, the, the, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, color. And this discoloration of the body only goes two microns deep out of 200 microns per thread. So it is only surface level. So, so, if you were to see it in person, you can't, like, if I'm like from the top, I wouldn't be able to notice it, like it's like on the video. You can see it with your eye, but if you took a flashlight and shined a light, not just even like some infrared or some UV light, just a regular light, the image disappears. Okay, that's why it's under the lighting it's on so you can see it. What that means is that this is not something that was put on this cloth. This is something that transformed the actual atomic

Starting point is 00:53:59 structure of the cloth. So what could do something to that level? What could take those carbon molecules and restructure them to put off a different image or a different color like this except for some type of high voltage in some way, shape, or form? We use that in industry to make chemical change happen all the time. It is absolutely, not even like within the realm of possibility, it's absolutely plausible that that's what calls the discoloration. So you guys have had on Santos Benacchi on your show. Yes.

Starting point is 00:54:34 The time's, I love that guy. And the way that he breaks it down as far as the human body and how it kind of, you know, compares to what we're talking about here, he breaks down the whole meaning behind human, right? Like the human, it's the light body. Like it's the light being, essentially. And so it's really not that far fetch that somebody could project their image onto some kind of thing.

Starting point is 00:55:00 And it's been documented actually, and we'll get to that after Jacob gets through, you know, a lot of the theories as far as this goes. But I do believe that there, that Jesus knew how to imprint images of himself or other things onto some kind of material, some kind of floor. There's been documented cases where this has happened very sparingly, but it has happened before. No doubt. No doubt.

Starting point is 00:55:29 Oh, it's happened in other instances? Yeah, in very weird ways. But yeah, I'm not trying to take away from the story. the story that Jacob's trying to do. So we'll get to the afterward. Yeah, the historical how I got from there, they're actually isn't that long of the story. I just kind of hit the spark notes of it. There's a little bit of some controversy, like I said, a little bit of some in the dark, some unknowns, but to the best of our knowledge.

Starting point is 00:55:51 Absolutely, so 540, the church in Antioch was spared. And then from there. Now this is the first time that a shroud with an image on it is actually historically mentioned. The patriarch of Antioch, all he did was save the artifacts and the church. He never actually goes into specifics on what artifacts. But in 554, it is mentioned in Camuliana that they have a cloth with the image of Christ on it for the first time actually noted Okay, 547 I'm sorry 574 is I'm sorry 574 is the day the first time somebody said they got the cloth again

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Starting point is 00:57:30 They stopped at a Christian city and ransacked it. It was a big thing. And they took one thing that was a notable mention, so much so that the elites of the city even wrote a letter of complaint to the Pope, the,, the French took the most holy image of Christ. Okay, and this is in 1204. So from 574 to 1204, it is believed that the shroud of Torren was housed in the capital city, Constantinople of the Eastern Roman Empire. From there, we next see the shroud in the village of Lairie, France in 1353, and it's owned by a knight by the name of Geoffrey de Charney, or Charney, however you want to pronounce it, I'm not the best of French, from Louisiana, but it's not that type of French we speak here.

Starting point is 00:58:11 Anyway, in 1453, Margaret De Charney actually deeded the shroud to the house of Savoy in Italy for two castles. She sold the shroud of Jesus for two castles. For this, she was excommunicated from the Catholic Church. The Pope was pissed about it, rightfully so. In 1578, Emmanuel Felibert, the Duke of Savoy. Were the castles in LA? Yeah, you would think so, but no, I'm doing French castles. I've traded them for two castles.

Starting point is 00:58:40 Chew where those castles. No doubt, right right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right weren't even that nice. I don't even think they're standing today. Most castles probably, at the time seemed great today, if they, if they gave you a castle. And you would go to be like, it's freezing. It's a money pit. It's a money pit. Everything is stone. It's like, get out of here, dude.. Yeah I thought about that too. There was a plantation home around our house that actually came up for sale not too long ago. And I have no, I have no, I have no, I ain't got the deep pockets to buy such a property. But just for shit's and giggles, I looked into it and it's like, you know, even if I was the most haunted places in America. Her family, her mom and dad owned it.

Starting point is 00:59:25 She grew up there. For the record, all the hauntings are complete bullshit. Basically, when you have a place like that, you have to get permission from so many different societies to even do the most basic of upkeep and repaired it to the building because it's a historical landmark. So it became an absolute money pit. They sold it to some people who sold to some Hollywood people in the 90s, next thing you know, the Myrtle's plantation is the haunted capital that it is now. It's a fucking old plantation, dude. It's all it is. But anyway, like I was saying here, 1578 Emmanuel Filibert, the Duke of Savoy actually ordered that the Shroud be brought

Starting point is 00:59:59 to Turin, Italy, where it has remained ever since. So the French, thethat took it from Constantinople housed it and they just hosted it for parties. They actually let people come in and like kiss the shroud and toucest the shroud and it was a whole thing because they were just flexing as rich people do. The house of Savoy are the ones that actually started cutting strips of it off and sending it to other royal people as gifts and as I think think they actually got permission at one point in time to send them as pardons for sins by the Pope, but then the Pope actually reneged on that and told him, hey, fuck that.

Starting point is 01:00:30 But anyway, neither here nor the Pope can come and take it. At some point, we're like, okay, where the Jesuits, calm in here. So, when the house the house the house the house the house is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Pope is the Pope is. the Pope actually. the the Pope actually. the Pope actually, the Pope actually, the Pope actually, the Pope actually, the Pope actually is is the Pope actually is the Pope actually is is. the the the the the the the the the the the Pope is is is is. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoooanusususususususususususususususususususususususususususususususus. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the House of Savoy gave it to the Cathedral in Turin, it at that time was seen as under the jurisdiction of the Catholic Church. So 1578 is when the Catholic Church claimed that they had complete control of it. And it's remained there ever since. Is there a reason they haven't put it in the Vatican? It wouldn't be a little safer at the Vatican? I think they're afraid to transport it.

Starting point is 01:01:05 Honestly, because at this point, like, look, dude, if we move it again, it's going to be a whole thing, there's ways that people are going to come and fuck with it. It's got four-inch-thick bulletproof glass that it's behind right now. I think they, when it comes, when it comes, when it comes, when it comes, the the the th it comes, th it comes, th th th comes, th comes, th th th that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th Pope doesn't believe that it actually is the shroud of Jesus that is that too the current Pope Right, yeah, he's he actually has gone on record. He goes yes, it's an ancient relic, but it's it hasn't been confirmed that it's Jesus, but you know you look into this Pope and it's like, you know, Jesuit and yeah, your ties and everything. Yeah, I was watching a clip from Joe Rogan where they're like now. they they th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. the th. they. th. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. the the th. the the tr. the tru. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pope. the pope. the pope. the th. Yeah, I was watching a clip from Joe Rogan where they're like, now they got a cool Pope. I go, whenever you are given a marketing scheme about somebody that powerful, like they're just hanging out, cool guy. Dude, cool Pope can roll fat joints, smoke a fatty with you, right? He'll, you know, it's just like, it's like, at, like you, just like you said, at that point, I don't want to smoke a smuggle joint with the Pope.

Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah, well, you don't want to, I feel like the Pope could ruin that experience. I mean, like, a great example of that right now is this Prince Williams, right? Like, you know, I mean, he was really painted as like the conservative one now like his wife is missing nobody knows where she is he's got side ass there's some talk about him smack possibly allegedly smacking her around i mean like that that is completely opposite how we're sold but that totally based on my fifty one years on this planet

Starting point is 01:02:41 fits into exactly how the process is, sell you on how nice they are when they're really monsters. Yeah, well that's royalty for you anyway. I mean, they're always going to put out an image and make you think that they're a certain thing and then really, you know, deep within there's some other shit going on. I mean, we could even get into, I don't want to stray too far because I'm loving this topic, but if you really get into like the history of the Rothschilds with the Royals and this kind of war they've waged and there's just kind of talk that in the new world order of power, there is no room for royals.

Starting point is 01:03:18 And now you see all of these royals getting like getting murked, getting, you know, fatal diseases, missing, disappearing, quitting. It's just really weird, man. Well that's what World War I was, right? The monarchy of Europe had to topple. And the only way to make that happen is a massive world war. In the beginning of World War I, we had Dukes and kings and all that.

Starting point is 01:03:43 What's that famous picture? The picture of nine kings or seven kings and that was taken at the beginning of World War I. At the end of it, now we have the Republic of, the democracy of, the Democratic Republic of, the whatever. They had to kill the monarchy and the Rothschilds absolutely funded both sides of that war. As a matter of fact, we just did an episode deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep deep mayor the original homie all the way to them now which I think we actually know they just named David Rothschild to be the new patriarch of the dynasty because Jacob just- Congratulations David you know you've been waiting you've heard yes scumbag uh hopefully he's as retarded as Soros' kid. Soros kid gave one interview. He was so dumb. He was so dumb.

Starting point is 01:04:30 Wow. I didn't know that they had a picture of all of them just hanging out right before World War I. You know those guys are all psychopaths, by the way. They're all guys. They're all like, okay, first of all everyone's looking one way except for this one dude. He sees, he, oh, he goes, uh,. the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. t. t. to. to. to. to. too. too. too. too. too. too. t. t. of all everyone's looking one way except for this one dude He sees he oh, he goes. Oh, we're a war one's coming. We're in trouble But yeah, he's the guy who knows You know when they you know when we talk about mayor Rothschild it's like what I've learned about these these billionaires and we could get into are they're tri. they're just all larps? And like, it's literally a Paul Bunyan type story

Starting point is 01:05:08 about Mayor Rothschild. He was only 11 and he ran this giant investment firm. He was so much, he was the Dougie Hauser of that time. You're like, you're just, just total bull. I'm sure there's Baxx, you could look up. Like the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story the story, Jeff the story, Jeff the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tol, total, total, total, total, total, total, total, total, tol, tol, tol, tol, tol, tol, tol, tol, th. th. th. th. th. th. they, they, they, they, are, are, they, are, are they's, are they're, are they're, they're, thi. thi. tole. tole. thooole. tol. tol. tol. tol. tol. tolog. tol. tol. tol. tole. total bulls. I'm sorry I'm sure there's Baxie you could look up. I like the story of Jeff Bacos, just complete bull. Oh, just worked out of his garage and invented. You know, don't mind that his grandpa started DARPA. That had nothing to do with it, you know, I just, they're none, I believe none of these stories. And I gave people yelling at me. They've told me that the Emerald, the Emerald Business with Eli Musk isn't real.

Starting point is 01:05:45 I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Just get out of here, dude. It's just like, it's just, because I don't know if you've noticed this, but all of these celebrities, at some point they go on this fucking show called, hey, learn your roots, and they all like, oh, your family, or slave traders and you're like and today you're super elite on television how does that all work out because you're just in you you were bought you won the lottery you are you are an elite coming in out of the womb

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Starting point is 01:06:56 Because that was only mine from slave labor up until and arguably still today. So Monsamusa, being the richest man that he was, the salt and gold that made to to to to the to to the to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I. thi. I'm, thi. I. I. I. I. I. I'm, that he. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th.e. th. th.e. th. th. M. M. M. M. And. And being the richest man that he was, the salt and gold that made him that rich was off of the backs of slave labor. But nobody wants to talk about that. And it's the sales job. And it's just like, how many rappers talk about slavery in Libya right now? One TI. And nobody talks about it. It's all bullshit.

Starting point is 01:07:24 It absolutely is. And people don't want to acknowledge the fact that slavery is still happening today. Or the fact that seven genocides are currently going down as we speak right now. Or the fact 13 open conflicts are actually popping off as we speak. Like, they don't want to worry about that. You know, that's that's their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi know that's that's their problem not us. Yeah I totally agree on that I totally agree on that. All right so so where were we I'm all over the place. So we covered what the shroud is where it come from the historical precedence behind it and the image on it. Now let's talk a little bit about some theories as to how it was put up there. Now also with the shroud itself, let's talk about the images and the coloration.

Starting point is 01:08:06 We know where the water marks are from. Some of this water is from putting out the fire of 13 or 1537. Some of it is from the wearer of the shroud, notably from around the head, around the torso and out of the lung, which wethere is a little bit of that on the shroud makes sense as well. The blood, when it was analyzed, it shows type A.B. blood. Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus was AB type. Blood whenever it deteriorates, nine times out of ten will not hold its original structure. So pretty much all blood when left long enough comes up to be AB. Now, maybe yes, maybe no, there are are are the blood did hold and you could tell this

Starting point is 01:08:48 person was O or this person was whatever, but nine times out of 10. So very possibly, Jesus was A.B. Blood type. Maybe not. We don't know. Now again, we talked about the image of Jesus itself, or the wearer, excuse me. Only in the negative of the image can you really see all the scourge marks across the body or where you see blood on the face from where his beard was plucked. You could see where the nose obviously looks broken, one eye looks more swollen than the other. The scourging that was left on him, we could tell from the angles of how they're cut into the body that it was made by two different by two two two two than likely three inches taller than the other. Okay so all this combined there is again no other accounts of any other person throughout the

Starting point is 01:09:32 course of human history that we know of at this time that received a lashing to that degree and was also crucified and given a proper Hebrew burial. Another point I want to mention, everybody brings up the rigor mortis conversation. Like, well, if Jesus died on a cross like this, why would you be like this? And how did they do that? They wouldn't if it's not Jesus. All right, real quick, just everybody understands.

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Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, your late 30s. I think it starts around 35. And your body starts to quagulate. And if you don't keep moving and working out, and drinking water, you get super stiff, and you literally cook. thi thii, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and thi, and you literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and literally, and th. th. th. th. th. thi, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you literally, and you, and you, and you thi, and you're, and thi, and thi, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. And, and thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. That's a new story. A new thing I heard by this woman. It's on doom scroll and it's coming out. You basically cook. That's what happens. You're browning on the inside. And when you get old, that's why you look like so, so shrink. Banana? Yeah. You know, I tell you what, I'm a Marine Corps infantry veteran and I do armored combat for fun. So I'm telling my knees in my back. Absolutely fucked up.

Starting point is 01:11:27 So me and my boys dress in medieval armor and we beat the shit of each other with swords and axes and cage fights. That's what we do. Oh wow. Isn't that professional league now? There's a lead. I'm the captain of my team. I was trying to convince Tom Segor that was the future of sports. I'm like, dude, I fucking hope so, son. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:11:45 Let's buy this league, Tom. You're gonna spend most of the money. And then let's run this thing. He's like, I don't know, man. I'm like, look, we could be commissioner. Look, there's somebody that's gonna put some money behind it. law prohibiting gambling amounts for armored martial combat fighting sports. I'm throwing that out. That's the key to all sports blowing up.

Starting point is 01:12:11 How much money can people gamble on it? Yes, indeed, man. The Nashville team is the ones that host the professional league. I mean, I'm a part of the team and we fight for with international teams a lot. But how many, how many leagues are there? Each country has their own different pyramids of who's and what's and stuff but there's a there's a bunch of teams popping up around the US right now. Arguably the best team is out of Dallas, the Warlords, they are a fucking powerhouse. Yeah, we have a big team. Yeah, we have a big team that comes together once. He's got a fan the fantasy. He's got a fantasy. the fantasy. the fantasy. the fantasy. the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the is is a the is a te is a te is a te is a teeeeeeeeeeeean. teean. teeeeeeeeeeean. teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. that comes together. Johnny's got a fan. He's in fantasy league for that.

Starting point is 01:12:45 Oh, it's killing me. Fuck yeah. The warlords. I didn't draft enough of them to kill me. I love it. I feel like if I could do that shit I would, bro. Every year. Oh no, it's fun as hell, but it's it's violent and it hurts. You know it's a lot of injuries, but I mean, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the their their their their their their their their, their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, I thi, I thi, I throwne. throwne. throwne. I throwne. thi, I thi. thi. thi. I thi. I thi, I thi, I what comes to the territory That's crazy dude that you do like fucking night fighting That's so nuts to me. Did you say what your team is called? I'm I missed it We're the savages I found the Dallas warlords. Yeah, they're Facebook page we have a Facebook but we don't really do much on it. It's only mean a couple of fires because again. the towards and is a literal oven and Louisiana is not a conducive environment to wearing an oven you know what I mean so it's a certain level

Starting point is 01:13:31 crazy. To dominate the women you got to get one trans dude there is one trans there's one trans out of South Carolina currently yeah that's the thing anyway anyway so as far as the sport goes, it's growing. But yeah, to answer your point about rigor mortis as well, dude, my back and my knees, I feel this. I haven't called it rigor mortis, but I'm a start. I'm slowly dying. Yeah, that's all it is. You don't stretch, man, you harden up, bro. Absolutely. The old people are walking like this because they never stretched theyir body. You gotta keep stretching, do yoga, do fucking, you know, absolutely. Anyways, back to where we were, sorry guys, we wanted to

Starting point is 01:14:11 a lot to do it. But yeah, so that was pretty much it. I want to make the other mentions about all of the markings and all the colorings on the shroud. Now, what caused the image? Jonathan, what do you have what the that? Okay, so I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, tha. So, th. So, th. So for the Okay, so I I have this other podcast. It's called Metamistries. We get into a lot of the spiritual kind of psychic kinetic Kinetic kind of weird things that go into it, but basically we we covered this one topic that's called thought toography and thoughtography was something that I had never really heard of, but I thought, you know, it'd be an interesting topic to really get into. Thoughtography, if you look it up,

Starting point is 01:14:51 the basic meaning behind it, it says, it's also called projected thermography, psychic photography, nangrophy and nensha is basically what it's known for over in Japan. But it says, it's the claimed ability to burn images from one's mind onto On to surfaces such as photographic film Yeah, there you go by parasycicic means so this has kind of been weirdly and they see it as like a paranormal kind of phenomenon and Maybe it happens by accident sometimes but basically back in the day there was this

Starting point is 01:15:28 dude, his name was Ted Sirios, and that's what you have pulled up right there. And he believed that he could project mental images onto a polaroid camera. And there was a guy that really believed in this as well. He was, there was a, the scientist. And he was, there was a, the scientist and he was like, he found out about Ted Sirios and he started doing a bunch of different cases. But basically the basic idea behind it is the psychic photography is that you focus incredibly hard on an object or an idea, and then you transfer it to a section of unexposed film. This is the people that we're trying to transfer it to like a Polaroid, like, you know, the disposable cameras.

Starting point is 01:16:13 But some people say, is it actually possible to transfer a thought? A researcher at the university of Surrey in the UK, he believes that consciousness is nothing more than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than the thi, thi, an electromagnetic field within the brain. And if that's the case, then a moving, then moving a thought from this field to another group of electrons shouldn't be such a big deal. And it's also worth considering that film cameras expose via light, i.e. the electromagnetic spectrum, so his theory actually seems somewhat possible. But as far as the thought toography goes, where that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the, that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi.e, thin, thin, thi.e is, thin, thi.e is, thin, thi.e is, thin, thi.e, thi, thi. So his theory actually seems somewhat possible. But as far as the thoughtography goes, where that meaning behind that word actually comes from, the term thoughtography was introduced

Starting point is 01:16:54 in 1910 by this dude named Tomokichi Fukari, he was a Japanese psychology professor who encountered the phenomenon accidentally while working with a clairvoyant. He conducted some interesting experiments, but his work was severely criticized and eventually was forced to abandon his research and resigned his position in the university. The thought of graphic experiments did continue, however, in America and Europe. But anyway, getting back to this Ted Sirius guy, this is back in the 1950s, Ted Sirius sparked a renewed interest in this paranormal photography, primarily because of his photographs were produced in ways that were ruled out, that rolled out the usual opportunities of fraud. But Sirius was apparently causing images to appear on the newly invented Polaroid system

Starting point is 01:17:46 of so-called instant photography. Experimenters would observe him closely while pictures were taken and then everyone could watch the print appear as the film, as the film was removed from the camera. So it was literally appearing from his, from his mind, and he was imprinting these on to a certain film. So anyway, a lot of people were like, I don't know if I believe in this. This seems like some circus kind of shit. Like, where's the illusion?

Starting point is 01:18:13 Where's the trick here? Well, there, Sirios, he was in his mid-30s and he was working as this elevator operator back in Chicago in a hotel. And he began to experiment with hypnosis. And during this period, he found that he could produce images onto a film, at first using an ordinary box camera, and then eventually onto a Polaroid film. And then after several years of demonstrating

Starting point is 01:18:37 his apparent gift to various people in some research in the Chicago area, he came to the attention of a Denver psychiatrist and physical, or psychical, physical, psychical, whatever, researcher. This guy was named Joel Eisenbud. And from May of 1964 until June of 1967, Eisenbud supervised thousands of these trials with Ted Sirios. And a lot of people that were observing this, they were scientists and academics and some of them were even like experienced conjurers. The trials yielded around 1,000 anomalous Polaroid photographs,

Starting point is 01:19:19 the entire collection of which now resides in Special Collection Section at the library, at the University of Maryland in Baltimore County. It says Eisenbud, the actual the researcher, the scientist, he reported that this research in he reported all this research in his book called the World of Ted Sirios, but basically there are 400 images proving that this guy was able to do this just by putting his, this camera up to his head and having a deep, deep, deep thought and it imprinting on to film. That's what, you know, this whole book was really about. So I thought that that was an interesting, you know, a thing to look at whenever

Starting point is 01:20:00 we're talking about the Shrout of Turin. But then, you know, then, then, I, I, I, I, then, then, then, I mean, anytime we're talking about anything like this, you got to bring up something that maybe Nikola Tesla was talking about, right? So Nikola Tesla, he had this quote and he says, Maya, and he was talking about, you know, kind of, in a roundabout way of this thoug of stuff. And who is this? What's his name, Ted Soros or Ted? Ted Sirios, it's S-E-R-I-O-S, Ted Serios. And he seemed like a bit of a nut job. I'm not gonna lie, I did a lot of research behind this guy.

Starting point is 01:20:37 This guy, right? Yeah, that's the guy. And he was supposedly like a whole- He looks like he's hea hea hea he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he looks like he's training Rocky doesn't he? Yeah, well he is thinking so fucking hard right now. Yeah, look at him. He's thinking so hard. I mean, hey dude, it worked. But I mean, he was a bit of a deranged nut job. And that's what, uh, even the, the scientist that was there to kind of witness all this, he said that he would have to get out of the room, you know, so many times because Ted was just a raging alcoholic and he would get real pissed and one of those angry drunks and everything.

Starting point is 01:21:10 But Ted in his mind, he thought that he had to get to this state in order to impress an image onto said film. That's every artist. It's like, I got a party to be creative. That's every artist. Yeah, dude. It's it's wild. But anyway, so Nikola Tesla, this is, you know, back in the day with Tesla. It says his quote is, my idea was to employ an artificial retina receiving an object of the image scene, an optic nerve and another retina at a place of reproduction, both being fashioned somewhat like a checkerboard with the optic nerve being part of the earth. So he was kind of talking about it as well in a different kind of way, but also just trying to imprint an image of your thought onto something else. So, but yeah, and then there's also,

Starting point is 01:22:05 I wanted to bring this one up to, there's this case over in Spain that happened. And this is probably the most prolific one. If you guys wanna look up this picture, it's called the Belmese faces, B-E-L-E-Z faces, and it is absolutely wild. So there was, there wasthis this household and they kept on noticing all these things, these these images that were appearing on like the concrete of their floor and they were like, you know, at first you would think.

Starting point is 01:22:39 At first you would think, oh, well, you know, you're, they're just seeing faces. That's not what's actually there. But the people kept on noticing that every day this picture kept on reappearing and reappearing, and sometimes it would even reproduce. They would scrub the floor and try and get rid of it, and it would go away, but then the next day it would reappear. And this shit just kept on coming in. And a lot of people will th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu, thu, thus, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. their, their people will say that the woman The mother of the household Was it it could have possibly been from her conscious mind. Maybe she was remembering a past life Maybe she was remembering something in the dream world, but essentially it's it's some of the most wild things how this could have happened and and and it's I mean this was back in 1971 the the woman this is nuts dude it's crazy not just appearing on the

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Starting point is 01:24:06 And they found also one of the craziest things about this story is that they found human remains underneath the floor of this house. Oh my God. Could have been buried on top of some kind of burial ground. So there could be some kind of paranormal shit going on here and it is maybe projecting its consciousness and making it up that's that's exactly what I was thinking if it was buried underground it it imprinted it into the concrete it's literally a thought it put its thought

Starting point is 01:24:36 into the concrete and every time now comes up in the concrete I don't know it just sounds crazy it's so many. There's just more and more faces ma'am. Wow. The Native Americans believe that once th th th th so that that that th so that that that th so that th so much that th so much th so much that th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th so much th. thus thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. It's th. th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. th. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th so many faces. There's just more and more faces, man. The Native Americans believe that once so much blood was spilt on a certain spot that that type of, that area of the earth was infected with that person's soul. So what if this isn't a burial ground? What if this is like a murder scene of like a group of people from way back in the frontier days or whatever area of whatever area of Spain, whatever that time period was, just a ransacking.

Starting point is 01:25:07 These people just got buried where they were, and now they're coming up because that much blood was spilted in that earth. Dude, who knows? Well, here's the crazy part about it is, is that the people that were actually living there, they were scared shitlessless of this thing, you know, and th......... I I I I I I I I I I, the people, the people, the people, thii, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi people thi people the people the people the people the people theee people the people the people the people thee people the people the people the people the people always appearing, as, you know, maybe most people probably would be, probably would be, you know, scared shitless. And so what they did, they tried scrubbing it, they tried pouring all these different chemicals to try and get rid of it. They even went as far as to break up the, the foundation, so to say, of the house, the cement, and they re-poured new cemented, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they, they, they, they, they.. They they, they, they, they they they. They they, they. They they they. They they were, they were, they were, they were, th. They, they they they they they they they they they they they they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They, they, they, they, they, they. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They're, they were, they were, they. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, tried. tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, they they they they they they they're, they're, they're-poured new cement and the fucking faces kept on coming back with new cement. Wait, wait, is that why they have these different dates on them?

Starting point is 01:25:50 On all these? That why there's like different dates? Yeah. It just won't leave? It says, on coming back. 72, 74 and 04 and 05. Wow. It's insane. Oh, wow, it's becoming more out of it the longer it's there. Holy shit.

Starting point is 01:26:06 Yeah, and they- Look at that one. That's a woman's face. Wow. Yeah, exactly. And this is, they did so many experiments to try and see, like, to try and prove it. And they went as far as, like I said, you know, cutting up or breaking up the cement, pouring new cement. And then they would... That is crazy. They would seal up the room for three

Starting point is 01:26:29 months. Like, all right, well, maybe if we just remove ourselves from the situation, and nobody goes into that room for three months, maybe they'll just disappear because maybe somebody is just trying to play a trick on us from the other side of the veil, the veil, the the the th.... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thr-a, thr-I. thr-I. thr-n. thr. thr. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they they they they they they they they would, they would, they would they would the. the. They came back after three months. Those faces were, they became actually even more clear after three months. And so that's just a weird thing that happened. And also the number of faces on this property, they increased after they excavated, excavated. So it just kept on getting weirder and weirder, right? And so yeah, I wanted to give that kind of an example because it's a little bit relatable

Starting point is 01:27:11 to what we're talking about with the shroud of torn about how Jesus was able to imprint. But here's really where I wanted to get really weird with it. So Jesus, we all know. I mean, there's a lot of missing years whenever it comes to the documentation about Jesus Christ. Okay, and a lot of people will say that maybe he was involved in some kind of in some of these mystery schools, right? Maybe he learned how to do a lot of this stuff through all of the ancient mysteries of the mystics and the Magi and stuff like that. That's a possibility. Because you think about it. He healed the sick, he raised the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoom.oom. thoom. thoom. thi. thiol. thiol. thiol. thiol. thiol. thumeaicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. thuuuananananananananananananananananananananananan. the. the. the. theyu. theyu. theyu. theyu. Okay. And theyu. Okay. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And th. And theya and stuff like that. That's a possibility. Because you think about it. He healed the sick, he raised the dead, there was remote viewing.

Starting point is 01:27:49 Supposedly there's a story about him, or not remote viewing, remote healing rather. There's this story in the Bible talking about the centurion that asked Jesus to heal his daughter. And Jesus told him, the centurion, told, the the them, them, them, theirion, told, told, told, theirion, told, told, theirion, told, theirion, theirion, theirion, theirion, he told, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, healed, wasa, hea, hea, hea, healed, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, hea, wase.e.e.e.e go home and whenever the, whenever he got home, Centurion found out that his daughter was, was healed miraculously, okay? He was able to walk on water, he was able to control the wind, he was able to command the animals, and all of the, he was controlling all the elements. I mean, if we take the story at face value, right? But here's a crazy thing is that every single picture that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that every single picture that you ever see of Jesus, there's an aura around his head, right? Like there's always some kind of mystical aura around him. So where exactly did he learn all of this stuff? Because he was clearly some kind of enlightened, some people may say maybe he was a sage, maybe he was one of the newer magiies or something along those lines? So where did he learn? He was also always white. Let's keep that one thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that one th th that one th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi tho- tho- tho- tho- thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. their their their their one of the newer magi's or something along those lines. So where did he learn?

Starting point is 01:28:46 He was also always white. Let's keep that one in mind as well. Always white? Every time you see him depicted, he's white. He's got a halo, but he's also a Caucasian dude. That's never a Jewish guy. Never one time. But continue.

Starting point is 01:29:01 Sure, sure. But, I mean, did he have a possible possible with the Magi that were they were teaching him all these things? He was gone for 20 some odd years from the Bible. I mean, you hear about him whenever he's a little kid and then you hear about him in his final years. But where the hell was he in all those years, right? I mean, you'd think the savior of the world. I mean, you'd have documented research of, I mean, the, the, the, to. the, to. to. the to. th. the to. the to. the the th. to. th. the the to. the to. th. the th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the thi. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, th. their, their, their, their, th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the. the. the. the. te. te. te. te. te. te. they. they. the. they. the. they. the. th world. I mean you would have documented research of I mean I could see maybe skipping over a year or two But to skip over 20 something years and there's nothing about him in the Bible What I would oh well you don't think the Vatican has that in somewhere in there in one of those books Those lost years. I think like you said if he's so important they're just not for us to read Oh, I'm sure and there's a lot of the books. There's?????????? the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the th th, their their their th, th. they. their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to skip. to to to to to to to skip. to to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their. their. their. t. t. try. try. tha. tha. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. for us to read. Oh, I'm sure. And there's a lot of books that were left out of the Bible. There's a lot of things.

Starting point is 01:29:47 I mean, you travel across the world in every single country, almost every single city in every other country has a story of Jesus that nobody's ever heard of. And talking about how his, he traveled over there and he traveled over there. and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it, and it's almost almost almost almost almost, and it, and it, and it's like, th, th, aled, th, al, th, th, th, th, th-I, th-I th-I tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, tho, th, the th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thr-a, thr-s, thr-s, thro-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-a, tho-a, tho, tho, tho, the and he traveled over here and he traveled over there and it's like all right well why don't we hear about these things and so here's the crazy thing and this is how I want to kind of tie all this together to the shroud specifically so there's this thing that's called have you guys ever heard of the Mandy Lion the Mandy Lion? What? It's called the Mandy lion M-D-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-I I I and M-I I I and M-I I I I I I I I I I I th-I th-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I th, th is th-I th is th is th is th-s is th-s is th-s is th-s is th. th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th-I is th-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-s, thr-s. tried thr-s. theeeeeeeeee''-I th-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-D-Y, L-I-O-N. And supposedly, Crusaders were fighting for this for centuries, and it's believed that it was a cloth to be imprinted of Jesus' face. And some people say, when he was going up to the cross,

Starting point is 01:30:37 someone handed him a cloth to wipe his face. And some people say that that cloth that he wiped his face with, that maybe that could have been the face imprinted on that cloth. Another story would be that he was baptized by John the Baptist, and then he went, Jesus went to go wipe his face, and his face could have possibly imprinted there. This one? Yes, exactly. Now, historical precedence to this, at the top left, that image of Odessa, this was, this is a part of the controversy of the Shrout of Torin, because apparently there were two cloths that were claiming to have the image of Jesus.

Starting point is 01:31:14 We have the Shrout of Torin. This one is lost to the s a claim that they had a cloth in Odessa that had the image of Christ's face on it, but the story of where that came from and how I got there is even more lost in mystery and convoluted, he said, she said. So there is in fact a historical precedence to this claim. Right, and people will say that, I don't know, maybe the Mandelion actually is the shroud of torn. The reason I even look into all this is because I believe that Jesus was some kind of enlightened, understood being as far as all of this, his very spiritual nature.

Starting point is 01:31:56 And you know, like I said at the beginning, he said that we were at, we would be able to do all these things and more. Now what exactly did he mean? that's up for debate. But I would like to say, or I would like to think that, well, I mean, this dude turned water to wine. He was able to walk on water. He took a tiny little loaf of bread and made it to where it was thousands of things. I mean, if this is this is this is this is this is this is something, thi thi thi is something, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, or, or, or, I. too, I. too, or, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I. too, I, I, I, too, too, too, thin. tho, too, too, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too a cocky way, but I think that there is a possible way

Starting point is 01:32:27 that we could learn how to do these things. And you look at a lot of these ancient mystery schools, why were they so shrouded in mystery? I think there is absolutely a reason. And then you look at the Vatican, everything they've been trying to cover up. How many books were left out out. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. thi. thi many are canon, so to say in the Bible. I don't know, I'm just saying that if there is a way for this to be proven, and if there is a way for this to exist, then we should probably look into other cases, and that's kind of where

Starting point is 01:33:00 I went with it. Well, I loved all this, man. This was an absolutely banger episode. Norton bought bangers, bro. That was an excellent episode, guys. Love that you guys came on. You knocked it out of the park. Super interesting, too, dude.

Starting point is 01:33:18 I love all this stuff, dude. This is my jam. Little mysticism, little Christ, little everything, hidden history, all that stuff. I love the timing of it. We're talking the Shroud of Torn right before Easter. That was a happy accident, but it all lines up brother. We don't believe in coincidences on our podcast. The Lord works in strange and mysterious ways. One more time guys, tell Jonathan Jacob, tell them where they can find you. So we're available on all podcast platforms anywhere where the cult of conspiracy podcast also we have a we're on Patreon and Rock Finn

Starting point is 01:33:53 anybody will be able to search our podcast will also be able to find those links as well we have a bunch of great guests on and talk about a a wide range of topics just like you guys do on your show and yeah I mean thank you so much for having a saw man this was an absolute pleasure and it was fun kind of doing the research for this one. We loved it man this was a great episode you guys knocked out Park and hopefully we'll have you back on sooner than later to talk again thank you guys all right to enjoy this breakdown of the episode all what you guys thu they th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the the. the episode. All right, what did you guys think, man? I loved it. I thought it was like a perfect episode. They came in hot, guns of blasts. It's always great to

Starting point is 01:34:30 work. It's always great to record with other podcasters because they know how to keep it hopping, you know what I mean? Pick up where the other guy stops talking and they know if you're listening here and you want to come on the show which we love............. And. And. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. to. to. to. the the the their. the other. their. the other. the other. the other. the other. the other. their. the other. the other. It's, their. It's, their. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's the. It's the. It's the. It's the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. It's the the the the you want to come on the show, which we love to get as many people in, I don't know if you've heard this, but there's a conspiracy now that I'm a gatekeeper and that like I am your passage to the higher levels, it's like unbelievable. That's stupid, dude. That people just take anything that is kindness and try to warp it. You know, you're just trying to help. You wanna have interesting conversations with interesting people. And if along the lines, you can pull some people up,

Starting point is 01:35:13 help them get some views, help them get some love. That's great. Not everything has to be, like, nefarious, right? It can't be just, like, hey, dude, I like- it makes me doubt when I've heard it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said it said, it said, it said, it's to say it's to say it's, hey dude, I like... Honestly, it makes me doubt when I've heard that about other people. Now that I hear it said about people I know or just trying their best and living their life, you know what I mean? It makes me doubt it when I've heard about other people now. I, somebody, well, I wanted to talks on Broken Sin a little deeper, but somebody said I'm a gatekeeper at the comedy store as well. Like you do you do comedy chaos. If you're a gatekeeper at the comedy store, you would be gatekeeping yourself in a lot more than. Yeah, yeah. I'd be

Starting point is 01:35:49 like, hey, why don't you put me on the line up a thousand eff in time. And Sam, and you've. We're recording. And you've. We're recording. Okay. We're recording. Okay. We're recording. Okay. We're recording. We're recording. Okay, okay. What do you guys think of the episode? No, I was going to say that you're just dropping. I was going to say you're completely, I don't know how you're gatekeeper when you've made people. Like I don't mean it like that. That's what gatekeeping is. Oh, no, no, you know you started podcast. You're hurting. You're hurting the case here. No, no, no, no, you. You. You. You. You're you. You're you. You're you. You're the the the the the the the the the they, okay, okay, you, you, okay, you, you're you, okay, you're you're you're you're you're the the the the the the the the the th. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You're. You're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. Okay, you're th. Okay, you're th. Okay, you're th. Okay, we're th. Okay, we're th. Okay, I th. Okay, you're that. Okay, you're that. Okay, you're that. Okay, you're th. Okay, you're completely, I don't know how you're gatekeeper when you've made people. Like I don't mean it like that. That's what gatekeeping is. Oh no, no, you know, you started podcast.

Starting point is 01:36:28 You're hurting the case here. No, no, you started a podcast where you didn't know this person, she retweeted you. And then all of a sudden you have her on here and the worst lawyer. Your honor. I would like to fire my lawyer right now, okay? I didn't know that he would sell the officer cocaine. Yes, he did. But did he he sold it to him because he wanted the cocaine? What is wrong with that? But okay, so that I thought the officer was really hard up for cocaine? Yes, I thought gatekeeping was you stopping people from getting big then how you know? No, no, no, no. I. I. I. I, no. I, no, no. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they, I didn't I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't, I didn't the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I didn't the the the the the the the the th. I didn't is for cocaine. Yes, I thought gatekeeping was you're stopping people from getting big. Then how you know? No, no, no. Well, that is a part of gatekeeping. Like in gatekeeping is in, um, is it like in like,

Starting point is 01:37:16 the UFC is like you gotta get past this guy to get to the highest levels. Yeah. But in talent, it is they're called gatekeepers because they decide who comes through.. T th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi. No thi. No thi. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the th. the the the th. the the the the th. th. the the. the the. the the highest levels. Yeah. But in talent, it is, they're called gaykeepers because they decide who comes through. And it's just, based on traits that the higher-ups above them want. Yeah, which is the dumbest fucking thing because even though my lawyer was trying to defend me, when he's talking about the human vibrations, she had no followers and she had an interesting story about John Binet. Yeah, so, and it was great. And that's what I meant.

Starting point is 01:37:51 I didn't make her. I just like, I just have interesting conversations and then the fans decide. It's just, it's just so dumb like just helping. my own lawyer is not even, I mean, it's not even, I mean, it's to say it even that way is not quite right. th... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they. to, they. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to.e.e. to. to. to. to, even, I mean, it's not even, I mean, it's to say it even that way is not quite right because it's not like, I mean, we wouldn't have anybody on that we thought would not be entertaining. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. We're having people on for our benefit too. They're bringing, it's not like we're, you know, lifting them up and then turning them in,

Starting point is 01:38:19 . . turning them in this, you know, something they weren't already. If we didn't think they were good, they would not be invited on the show ever. We never invite somebody on just the doing a favor. And I just love this topic. I hope I didn't throw it off by saying the other half looked like the devil. Because it does. I'm sorry. That looked really. Can I just show you really quickly that statue this this one thing I was talking about? Look at how weird this is dude. This is just in a park. Yeah, why is that in a park?

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Starting point is 01:40:06 you say, like a mite or something? Yeah, like a tick. A giant tick. And that kid is shredded, by the way. And then look at this baby, wrestling with the demon goat god or whatever. Like, and it's just all around, this is really high up, you know, like on the walls. There's some ugly-s, bad, th. th. th. th. th. th. It's, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th back then. And then that yeah we're weird dude weird stuff man there's another one right here like what's this guy's face? Yeah what's this guy doing? Creepy and this lion thing? Yeah that is creepy dude. A bunch of creepy shit in the art did. So what's your guys's thoughts on the the shroud? I like what you said how we're like so many episodes deep in there, but we still found a topic. Because I've had her, I've seen documentaries on this, like little bits and pieces, and I'm glad we went deep down the tinful hat rabbit horn actually literally, because over

Starting point is 01:40:53 there's just, you know, your typical Discovery Channel documentary, which just talks about the basics and I went, we went a little bit more deep, theology thing was who would, what would he call it, theography? Yeah, thought, thiography, yes. I think I was it. Yeah, I love the episode. I thought it was great. I find it mysterious. A lot of people want to say that. Jesus didn't exist.

Starting point is 01:41:18 Jesus is my Savior. You know? It's funny because the people who say that, I mean, even the many of the greatest skeptics of the Bible in academia will concede that he existed. Like, that's not really, if you're being, if you're a fair player, that's not even up for debate really. So you know somebody's kind of dealing dirty if they say he didn't exist at all, that they either are dealing dirty or haven't examined the facts. Yeah it's just like you know what it makes me feel better so I'm just gonna run with it all right

Starting point is 01:41:52 and makes me feel better so guys real quick I want to tell you I would since we were we were gonna be in the studio but I have to grab my kids today so I want to thank my boy Justin Brandtinson he's to to to to to to to to to the to to the to the to the they. the they. they. to to they. I the the the they. I th. I th. I th. I th. I to to to th. I to the the the th. I'm just. I to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I they. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I my kids today so I want to thank my boy Justin Brandenson he's from EMF rocks and he sounds a bunch of these EMF bags. Oh cool. Yeah so I was going to give them today and then this is really good to put these are great to put near your Wi-Fi so so eat not does your Wi-Fi work so if you put those near like does it fuck up your Wi-Fi work worse if you put those near it? Like, does it fuck up your Wi-Fi? Does it, because I need my Wi-Fi to work? No, no. Well, we're gonna have just it on very soon to discuss it. That's EMF rocks. Go to Sam Trimley.com. We have all these wonderful affiliates. I love them. We're going to

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Starting point is 01:43:57 Boom, boom. Are you also doing the 1000? Listen, I'm giving out scholarships at this point. I'm not, okay? What do you mean? I want the full value, there's no free. Call Sam Tripoli, well we'll do a little under the table around Johnny, okay? How dare you? Buy gold and silver, got my silver, I'll go to to buy gold and sipally.com. to go to to the gold-Igoliiolioliolioliolamamamamamamamamamamamamamam go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to go go go to to to go tooomoli. to to go to go to go to go to go to go tooom. We'll to told. I to told. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. toldlip. tooom. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go. to to the the the the the to the the to thoom. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too gold and silver, go Sam Tripoli.com. Dot gold, and get on that. Who knows what's going out with the monetary system? Grab your gold, grab your silver now. I'm always buying gold and silver.

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Starting point is 01:45:29 hit in the gym, hit it last night. People asking Sam, why are you getting so shredded? It's because I just gotta do what I gotta do. Why? Why are you? Why? Well, dude, I'm getting ready for the apocalypse. I'm gonna be fighting fucking illegal zombies everywhere. Sorry Xavier. You gonna fight my cousins? Yeah, I did well if your cousins fuck around and find out All that on Sam Tripoli dot com anything else boys

Starting point is 01:45:54 Actually, guess what guys I'm raffling off my Honda Civic in West Covina Friday Saturday Sunday. you can buy a ticket at George Press Story's West Covina show I'm raffling off my Honda Civic for 30 bucks. And if you have my number or you follow me on Instagram, I can raffle, I can sell you a ticket for 30 bucks, but it will be raffled off at the next George Press Story's episode. It's a Honda Civic's. Sam's been in it, weigh. We've parted in it, not like that, but we've we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, we've driven, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I've, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I can, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th.. I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, th. I can th. I can't th. I can't thraugh, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thrown. tha. tha, thrown, thrown, thrown, I can't, I can's a good car, right? It's a good car, right? It's a nice car. It's definitely a $30 value car for sure. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:46:29 Just pass small, it'll run. Yeah, you can if you win the car, you can at least double your money on selling it. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Anything else? Hey, every Tuesday we're back at Johnny was on the road. So now now. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. to. to. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's a to. It's was the live Johnny's was on the road so now we're back. This Tuesday coming up will be another TFH live people are loving that and then every Thursday 3 p.m. Doom scrolling exclusively on Rockford. Anything else boys?

Starting point is 01:46:59 We'll be back on we'll be back with broken sim next week to get ready for that shit What Dana? What's the big announcement? Something else okay Dana Dana wants you know we have a big announcement on April 3rd all right guys is here. Enjoy these highlights Here's a clip from the latest broken sim What do you think the percentage of who do you think has more female listeners us or scum and kick it? Well? We do? we do? do? the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the big. the big. the big. the big the big the big the big their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. they. the they. their their their their their their their the latest broken sim. What do you think the percentage of who do you think has more female listeners us or scum and kick it? Well we do by numbers they do by percentage probably because the ladies love scum and kick it. Do they? Do they? The ladies love it? Do they? The ladies love it? There's one thing women love. Patricia loves scum and kick it. Yeah they just they just love it. It's just their their lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the lady. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. There's one thing women love is to scum and kick it. Yeah they just love it. It's just their fun time. I was I in fact I lost so many girlfriends

Starting point is 01:47:47 because I had a little scum but not enough kick it. Yeah yeah yeah you got to have kick it. Which one of them do you think is scum and which one is kick it? I think the other guy scum and I think and I don't that's nothing against him. And that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's. That's. That's. Yeah. That's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's. Yeah... That's. That's. That's. I. That's. That's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. that's. I. I. I. that's. I. I. I. that's. that's. that's. I. that's. the. the no, no, but. And then Kick It is definitely, uh, yeah. Because that's all XG wants to do all the time is kick it. Actually, yeah, he almost kicked it on while we were recording temp foil. Yeah, he's almost kicked long day long night or early morning You could definitely see that he was fine by the second show, but that first show dude I think where he was like five minutes late. Yeah, I think he had like a rough Johnny wins is coming out. I would love for it to come out Monday. All right. I do. Thank you to everybody who came out to the awesome filming taping recording whatever you call off of kick. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. heat. hea. hea. hea. hea. he he he he he th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he he he he he he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. he. Yeah. he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he the awesome filming, taping, recording, whatever you call, of,

Starting point is 01:48:46 Oh, wrong button. Kick it, I mean, uh, no, of quiet. Quiet. Quiet. Why is everybody getting quiet? Okay. I was looking for this. Okay.

Starting point is 01:49:00 Yeah, great show. Thank you. Thank you. A lot of fun, two shows. We'll see how it cuts up. I want to put out two of them. So here's the final name of my specials. Here we go. Ready.

Starting point is 01:49:14 Wait, wait, okay. So I thought it was quiet. No, it's quiet, but it's broken. It's like Kill Bill. So it's obviously quiet part one and quiet part one is holy roller. Quiet part two is war. Just war. War. Now are you gonna have it that way or is it just gonna be like quiet part one? Yeah it's gonna be quiet. Why is everybody getting quiet part one? Holyt. the word? word Sam Triplies? Sam Tripleys why is everybody getting quiet part one holy roller words in that time Sam where Sam

Starting point is 01:49:45 Tripoli's wise everybody getting quiet one yeah welcome the Sam Tripoli's why is it welcome to Sam Tripoli's quiet part one holy roller that's a lot of words hey dude who cares they're just there no no in the title just be like quiet part one say I guess your name in there yeah people know they're getting they're getting yeah yeah yeah they're getting they get they get it they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they the the they they they they they they they they're they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they they their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy they they they they they they they they they they they they're no, in the title will just be like quiet part one. Sam Tripoli's quiet. Yeah, I guess your name in there. Yeah, people know what they're getting. Yeah, or it will just be like, yeah, it's quiet. I like that. I like wars, but war is cool. War. War. War. Is that a, what were the other? What was some of the other things you were tossing. Oh, weirdo. That's funny. I like war though. I want, the first one's going to be weirdo. Then I'm like, because I talk about how I love Jesus and I do Jiu-Jitsu, so I'm a holy roller.

Starting point is 01:50:32 That's funny. I'm excited. I'm excited, Johnny. I'm in a good mood overall. So I'll say thank you. You sure weren't a good mood parking just a few minutes. No, I was not. I was not happy and I yelled. I didn't yell, but I got, hey, where is it? Then this poor guy who's, you know, who's like cleaning up the office building? And I'm gonna tell you something.

Starting point is 01:50:54 I have a lot of respect for that man. I am a guy who's since I was a young man. I respect it, to man. I respect anybody who works an honest job. Yeah, me too. I respect it, dude. So I go, hey man, who's parked in the mill and I thought was the maintenance guy. This guy comes out, he goes and moved the other car. I go, dude, dude, no, I thought it was just, I'm so sorry, dude. So then the other guy came and he moved it. And it's just like, I would normally not tell them the the m the move to to move to move the move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. to move. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the m. the the m. the the the to. to. the and I am now illegally parked because of that. Johnny, we will get a go fund me for you to pay for your parking ticket. I don't think they'll get us in night. No dude, so listen, going to be in New Jersey this weekend.

Starting point is 01:51:38 I'm in Hotep Jesus' his very special Griffies awards. I'm hoping I'm not winning an award, but we'll see. Maybe I will. And I'll accept that one. What are you doing there? Presenting. Do you know what it is? Nope.

Starting point is 01:51:53 Just go up there and go, give it up for this guy. He won or her, or she, him, or she him, or anyties? Anybody ever accept those awards? Oh, Alex Steinstein, Alex Stein did. What did he get? I think he got Griffithy of the Year, grifter of the year. Really? Yeah. That's not an honor. That's how you own, but you own it.

Starting point is 01:52:10 You gotta own it. He's been killing it, by the way. Oh, dude, what he did to that Dallas Mayor is just, fatality. And did you see? Okay, ready? You know what he did to that? That, uh, Alex? Yeah. Fatality, you know. Okay. Did you see? Did you see, too, he showed up at this Plano, Texas, uh, their board of commissioners or whatever with a Trump impersonation?

Starting point is 01:52:37 Have you seen this? Anyways. So, um, I'm going to, uh, it's going to be Flagstaff, Tucson, El Paso. Flagstaff, Tucson, El Paso. When I drove out to LA, I drove through Flagstaff and it had just had a big snow. And then I'm announcing, I'll have it up. Oh, Plano, Texas, that's where Alex Stein was. Yeah, he's been buying my show before.

Starting point is 01:53:00 Then, by the time this is is out it will be up on the website March 30th. I am going to be in Florida doing a joke joint and The first show is going to be for The comic book chaos twins. I'm doing a signing and then we're doing a stand-up show. So we're getting in we're getting out. Bang bang bang. Let's bang bang bang. I'm gonna make that shirt now too the bang bang bang pow sure. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. March the. March the. March the. March the. March the. March the. March the. March the. March th, Big, Big, Pow. I'm gonna make that shirt now, too. The Bang, Big, Big Pow. I like that. Bing, Pow. And then, yeah, I got some more stuff.

Starting point is 01:53:30 So I'm happy. I'm very upset, though, because I didn't, it just, Instagram will not let me advertise. And it really just hurts my job. What do you mean they won't let you advertise? I've tried over and over and over again. What? They just say you are not allowed? Yeah, they just somehow they know who I am and they won't let me advertise. It's so strange. What about Facebook?

Starting point is 01:53:53 Nope. Same because it's the same thing. Yeah, they just won't let me and it makes it. I don't know. I mean, Instagram ads are the best. I feel like I find myself clicking on Instagram ads more than any other. They seem to have you figured out. I'm just sad, sad, man. I'm a sad, sad, sad. No one knows what it's like to be a sad man. Uh, let's give some stuff. Have we talked about? Behind blue eyes. Okay, let's get into some funny happened to me. Okay. So I got called by a buddy of mine, Justin Silver, who is a really great guy.

Starting point is 01:54:35 I like that name, Justin Silver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that's a joke job job yeah it probably was silverman right or silver Silverstein or something like

Starting point is 01:54:52 that yeah yeah I bet you shorted up Steven Justin Silver Stenowicz Berg Semitic yeah yeah yeah I remember one time Steve Byrne was try to do to do jokes about that and the room just got quiet and he never did it again. You know it's just like hey dude I've been talking to I've been talking to some people and those people are myself and I was sitting there going it's kind of crazy right that the top three in terms of standard of living groups are are Asians including Indians, Jews, and then white people, and out of those three, let's say four, if you include Indians in with the Asians, which they do, three of those four people are just all piñatas for comedy. They're just, that's in America, right?

Starting point is 01:55:43 In America. Yeah, piñatas for comedy. And then there's one that's crying about everyone making fun of them now. So it. So. So. So. So. So. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And then, it, it, it, it, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then America though, right? In America. Yeah, Pinautas for comedy. And then there's one that's crying about everyone making fun of them now. So it's like super hilarious. It's also the only one that's based on a religion too, which is curious. Oh Johnny, I'm with you on that. So anyways, so Johnny, uh, Justin Silverstein Witts, Berg, uh, my good friend. the thii. Just Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin Justin, Justin, thin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, thi, Justin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, si, si, si, si, si, si, si, si, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th one of the premier dog trainers and one of the best comics out there, super funny guy. He invited me to do a show down in Venice Beach. And it was at this place called the townhouse, the Venice townhouse, and it's, Johnny, it's a gorgeous stage.

Starting point is 01:56:22 It's downstairs gorgeous. If someone could buy this it's a perfect comedy club. If you had to open a comedy club this is what should look like low-ceiling small room you could blow it out. It's great. If I had a butt ton of money and nothing less than a butt ton, okay I would go and buy the town house and turn it into the West Sites. I have a feeling I've been to a show here actually a little music show. It's I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm a thi, I thi, I'd thi, I'd thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi and turn it into the west side. I have a feeling I've been to a show here actually, a little music show. It's downstairs. Yeah, I think I've been there.

Starting point is 01:56:49 You're probably going to see one of those gay bands you loved as a youth. Yeah, yeah. As a youth, you were really in the gay rock as a child. Okay? That was a boy. Was I into it. So okay. So anyways I I end up going to there and you know I'm getting ready I'm on last which is fine I'm always last I used to think that means that nobody wants to follow me which sometimes happens but it's also like politically I'm the easy you know I have the least amount of cachet in some of these bigger shows, right? It's just the way it is.

Starting point is 01:57:26 All right, who's gonna be stuck last? I'll throw Sam there. He can handle it at the end of night. I'll just scream at everybody. But, but, but, um. But you wouldn't want to go think that's kind of like the first. In Hollywood, in Hollywood, you want to go early because the crowd's hot and you can get out. Going last, it's like the last guy and a gangbang. You're like, oh, this is sloped. So if you could pick a spot to go, where would you go? Okay, if I can tell you, Sam, what's your favorite spot in LA? My favorite spot is 11 p. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.m. in In the OR, if the show starts around 9 p.m. It's probably the best time to go.

Starting point is 01:58:12 It's cooking. It's cooking. They got their fill of their like corporate comedy, making the girls laugh and then bring out the savages. And you're the beginning of the savagery. You're not the end of the savagery. You're not the end of the savagery. People haven't completely started talking. Yeah, they're not like too sloppy and they're not like looking at their watches. Okay, where we're gonna go?

Starting point is 01:58:33 Uh, so that's perfect. So you don't want to go too early. Well, it depends on what I'm working on. You know? Oh, I see. Yeah. If I'm working on new bits, I like to go later so I could fail in dignity and nobody knows. If I'm, if I, if I'm working, I got a set that I want, that I like, I'd like to go early. Getting get out. So that's, but so anyways, I'm going last. It's great. It's a great show, everybody's really funny in the show.

Starting point is 01:59:06 So Johnny, I have to take a piss. So I'm like I got pee. So the show's going on, I'm not till late, I'm going to go upstairs and pee. So I walk up the stairs and I go to where the bathroom is. Now, after COVID, they've totally redesigned the place for the most part. They've, you know, they've really gotten rid of the entrance and the exit's different. So they've also changed the hallway to the bathroom. So I go into the hallway to the bathroom, which is a long hallway this way. So I look down the hallway and I see there's a woman entering a door. So I go, oh, that must be where the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. the hallway and I see there's a woman entering a door. So I go, oh that must be where the female bathroom is. So I'm gonna go in this door, this is the male's bathroom. And I walk in and there is a chick in the bathroom just on her phone. I go, ah, and I freeze. Sitting down? No, she just at the sink sink I like, oh, did I go in the wrong bathroom? I mean, she goes, no, I go,

Starting point is 02:00:10 why are you here? She goes, it's a unisex bathroom. I go, what? She goes, yeah, both. And then this girl goes, totally, oh, you're a boomer. Let me explain this to you. And she proceeds to explain to explain to explain to explain the the to explain the the the to explain the the the the the the the the the the the the the to explain the the the the the the to you, and she proceeds to explain to me how the unisect bathroom works. She goes, pee pee pee here? These are urinals, and this is where you got, and you gotta sit down. I go, why are you here? Like, why are you here? And I go, they, what they're doing by making unisex bathrooms is they're taking away man's final safe space. It's the safe space for men to just go and blow out their beeholes in dignity. I mean how many

Starting point is 02:00:59 times you walk into a bug bathroom and you just hear shotgun glass going on? You could, I mean, more times than not, really. Keep it going, good job buddy. It's a safe space for us. When we can just release the crackings out of our beeholes and now I have to worry about it. And now we're gonna have women in there and why do we want women hearing us blow out our beeholes?

Starting point is 02:01:21 That to me it's the other way around too. I don't want to hear women doing their business. Yeah, ladies, you don't even want to know you take poops. Now you're going to be in the same room with us? That's so bullshit. And then dude. I love it. She explained it to you like a child. 100%. And then Johnny, the funniest thing is that, you know, have you ever been in a woman's bathroom? Yeah, they're much nicer than men's bathroom. They're nicer, but they're dirty. They're dirty. Dude, have you ever seen like a strippers locker room? Well, that's a different thing, isn't it? Yeah, but yeah, I'm telling you, dude. I used to run the bathrooms.

Starting point is 02:01:55 I used to be in charge of like the doors at the comedy the comedy the comedy the comedy the comedy the comedy the comedy the comedy throw all the paper towels, the woman's bathroom was always way worse. What do you think that's about? Ah, because that's kind of their place, you know what I'm saying? It's women are going to listen. I don't want women coming in to our bathrooms and messing them up. Bring your filth down to your own bathroom. Clean up your own, but throw paper towels all over the place. Have that box full of blood in your bathroom.

Starting point is 02:02:28 They do use a lot more tissue than we do. All the time. And you throw just, it will be all over the place. They don't care. It's just gross. And now we're learning dude it's just absolutely nuts to me so then I go on stage and I just like I'm badly like Venice and I don't see the world the same way because it woke down there too oh yeah

Starting point is 02:03:02 it's where all the rich kids it's's like, it used to be even worse. But now a lot of them left because of these stupid policies. I thought Venice was kind of cool. It used to be great. And now it's just like a homeless factory. You know, and it's just like, you know, and now somebody said, we look this up. Is Gavin News the same California giving out interest-in interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest interest to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to their to their their their their their their their to their their to their to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. too. I th. I too. I th. I too. to to to too. to to to tooke. to tooke. to tooke. to to took. to to to to to to to to to th. out interest-free loans to illegal immigrants? I mean do you think that's real? It sounds ridiculous.

Starting point is 02:03:30 So it sounds like it could be real. Yeah, yeah, I mean it sounds ridiculous. He's probably doing it. Let's see. This is from AOL, A.O.L. I don't know. What does that mean? California could allow undocumented residents to qualify for a new state-backed-back-back-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-based-s-based-s-s-based-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. to-s. to-s-s-s-s. to-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-n. I-n. I-n. I-n. I-n. I-n. to-n. I-s. I-n. I-s.a-s.a-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s.ccoo-s.co-s. to-s. to-s. to-I-s. to-s. to-Ia-s. to-s. to-s. to-I-I-s. to-s. to-s. to qualify for new state-backed home loan program. It's from February 26.

Starting point is 02:03:49 A California lawmaker is leading the charge to make undocumented residents eligible for a popular state-backed home loan program. So there's somebody, a lawmaker who's not, it's this guy, Wackeen Arambola of Fresno, the Democrat, he's introduced legislation, assembly Bill 1840 that would expand eligibility for California's Dream for All program, which uses a quote, shared appreciation lending model. I love that. While undocumented immigrants have bought homes using lending programs that bypass the need for social security numbers, the bill would make home buying more accessible for many. It sounds like it's our wonderful state government. Yeah, how about making it more accessible for people who are

Starting point is 02:04:32 citizens of California? I mean like what are we doing here? It's so stupid. It's so stupid. It is. So Johnny I was going to, I had a great weekend recently with my kids. I was going to go, by the way. I tell you the time that I was th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the the th. the th. the th. the th. the th. th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. te. te. te. te. tod. today. te. te. today. today. te. today. today, today, by the way, did I tell you the time that I was driving back, I was flying back and I think it's Delta, that's just really great with movies. They give you free movies to watch all the time. It's like, God bless you, okay? Thank you for giving us a little something. So, did you know the, I, that, thak, that, that, thak, thia, thia, thia, that, thia, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, that, that, that, that, that, that, thi, that, that, that, th. I was, th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I th. I th. I, I, I th. I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I'm, toda. I'm, toda. I was, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, I was, I Equalizer 3 came out? Yeah, yeah, I did actually. Did you watch it? My dad watched it and I was like around. So, well, Denzel Washington's getting into his fat face, right?

Starting point is 02:05:11 Where he's fat fighting? He doesn't need to be doing more equalizers, you know? Yeah, I like, dude, we're good. We're good. Yeah, we don't need to be messing with it. We do not need you go to Stephen Seagal route. No, there's a reason Liam Neeson stopped doing take-in movies and it's related to this. Well you hear that he's gonna do, he's gonna do airplane? Like a remake?

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